💬-general-feedback

[umbral saddle]

HELP!!! Send this to admin if you have a way. Support keeps replying with stupid messages. For a year i had problems with settings gone after restart. Now everything gone on PC and tablet. Please help me! This game support is the worst i ever dealt with.

[jagged flax]

I want to say that I appreciate them fixing most of the red pips on main HUD. Thanks

[fallen epoch]

What exactly is the issue?

[umbral saddle]

Before i wasnt able to save new bookmarks (old stayed). Ships, officers showed as new, ones i got past year. Wasnt able to archive/unarc missions. Plus support ignored my issue with projectiles activation.

Now. EVERYTHING IS GONE, ALL SETTINGS AND BOOKMARKS i did all clearing and all that. Settings will now stay after game restart. Like i just started new game. Sounds and all. Full reset every time game starts. I cant take this anymore.🙈 @fallen epoch @tacit obsidian @grizzled tartan @pulsar leaf

[long pivot]

Hello all , here's a list of broad ranging suggestions I have after 3.5 years of playing this game. I've kept these suggestions to what I hope are "realistic" requests as opposed to things that would require a complete rework of game mechanics.

[kindred sequoia]

For the love of god, update the Premium Recruit Pull. This thing hasn't been updated in 2+ years.

[long pivot]

'Housekeeping':

• Items tabs are full of useless old event tokens etc. Makes it a chore to check on useful things like armada directives or messages that are stuck in the middle of the 'other' tab. Materials tab could be re-organised to be easier to read too as there's a lot of stuff in ungraded.
• Red notifications are a total mess as discussed extensively here. Perhaps allow us to mark stuff on the menus to include or exclude for notifications.

Mining

• A cerritos mining boost ability for speed mining.
• Automatically kick miners off 0 mines.

PvP

• A longish cooldown on reshielding after breaking a shield from aggressive action. You can use a shield but it won't take effect until after the cooldown (so people can log off).
• A short cooldown on moving base.
• Armada style attacks against bases. This would help smaller players attack bigger bases.
• Bring in the incursion style shield disabling during normal raiding events.

Territory

• NPC hostile spawns in territories, perhaps as a territory service purchased like buffs. These hostiles could be set to attack by diplomatic status (i.e. allied, friendly, neutral, enemy). Preferably they would be faster than regular hostiles. This would help defend miners in territories and also make TOs more interesting.
• Takeovers should all be moved into peak playing times and multiple TOs should occur at the same time.
• Restrict TOs to registered participants.
• Wider array of services to choose from in every territory. Increased benefits from building up services over long term perhaps using something similar to the alliance contribution method.
• More territory zones than just origin, including in g4/g5 space. A Limit of territories across all zones to X with a limit within zones of Y.

Alliance Star Base:

• Ability to build them in a wide range of systems all over the map.
• Docking ships for repair.
• Buffs for certain functions e.g. tiering up ships while docked there.
• Summon ships between starbases, limited by some level dependent research to prevent lower levels swarming deep space?

Economic Issues:

• Allow players to trade materials, parts, and resources, even ship BPs. Perhaps we have to use survey ships to transport these items for trade.
• Sinks to convert useless materials into others, e.g. ship BPs into parts/materials for that grade/type of ship. Up/downgrade/convert materials/parts at some exchange rate.
• Epic g4 ships are an absolute joke in blueprint/credit cost compared with just going for lvl 53. No point in anyone ever trying to build one ever if they have any brain cells.
• Refinery rates are still bad in general even with primes, and it seems to me actually not that well balanced between what people need the most - common/unc - and rare/epic. Maybe some of the highest tiers of ship do need chunks of rare/epic mats but it seems to me at g4/g5 levels you're always better off going to a higher level for a new ship than ever actually getting anywhere near finishing a ship off.
• Too many officers are basically impossible to get shards for.

Tedium:

• Higher level borg systems please. Killing so many lvl 33s is absolute torture.
• Missions are pretty boring in general, especially when you have some random hostile killing stage for 20 hostiles or some rubbish. I'm not sure how you can make missions more interesting (lots of players just don't care about the story arc). Does anyone else here have any bright ideas?
• Gathering messages is a gigantic bore too, especially when sometimes scouts don't even give off a chest.

[signal yoke]

This game crashes every 10 minutes or so. Usually just when I want to sign up for someone’s armada. Or I do something I have done a million times before. This time it crashes

[civic jay]

Outlaw UC Armada Exchange Loot is not scoring.

[fallen epoch]

Hmm I see. I don’t understand why the bookmarks are having issues for you. But the new message and the disappearing archived missions seem to be some sort of cache issue which has never been resolved 🤔

For the bookmarks
Are you logged into ScopleyID and something else like Google play or Game Centre??

[outer lichen]

Agreed.

[umbral saddle]

Yes im logged in. this started after they added scop id to my google play account. Cant add or remove bookmarks. And all other issues. Same thing on PC. Support ignores all of this. I cleared cache and all like this. You just a player or can help to fix this with suport? @fallen epoch

[fallen epoch]

I am a player but I know how to fix the bookmark issue. Let me find the workaround for you 2 seconds please 🖖 I will edit this message when I find it

This is what someone did that helped them with this issue

Steps I took on iOS: sign out of Game Center, restart phone, uninstall stfc, restart phone, install stfc, restart phone, sign into stfc with only scopely ID, then bookmarks worked again. But…..all my old bookmarks had been deleted.

This also works with Google play 🖖

[brave portal]

Or you could just hit "share" bookmark, but not send to chat. Instead, Back arrow then share again and send. Works 100%

[fallen epoch]

Wow thanks for this 💪 I’ve saved this response incase anyone else asks

[brave portal]

@tacit obsidian why is zero still an option for uncommon when pulling from refinery? Considering the cost requirements and the massive community complaints on refinery.

[trail garnet]

Incursions bring the game's bullying to new heights and should be abolished.

[true zealot]

Or a minnows revenge event. Something for the non whales to feel like they're contributing to the effort.

[trail garnet]

I am not a minnow. I am a level 49 player. I speak out as some one who has been bullied and refuses to bully others.

[open grail]

INCLUDE RELOCATION TOKENS IN ONE OF THE DAILIES.

[glass horizon]

Can you please turn off the Green upgrade arrows for officer traits.

[vale wasp]

Please avoid using excessive caps. There is a cheap reloc token from the alliance daily exchange if you aren't already collecting them.

[slow needle]

Come on Scopely, you cant put Wesley pack and call it special when hes broke.

[true zealot]

Also provided in the alliance store

[slow needle]

Since i didn t put the post in a scopely friendly way, spend 75k fed credit = 150 recruit chest×5 shards×.20 epics% = 150 epics but in scopelys world its 75 epic shards. Maybe your RNG is "broke"

[fallen parcel]

I get them all the time in my 24hr chest

[jagged flax]

88 is a newer server, correct?

[chrome fern]

👆

[wary wedge]

Can we please have a way to search for officers in the Assign Officers tab? There is a way to organize them into Groups, but it would be easier if there was a separate Group Menu. Then we could scroll to the specific group instead of scrolling horizontally through every officer in the line until we get to the group we are looking for. Or perhaps a way to search by name, again, in the Assign Officers tab where we crew our ships.

[hoary blade]

There needs to be away to see admirals and Commodores that are on and other groups is that what you can message them when there's issues

[woven jay]

Double time gating is standard in every game when the devs believe the players owe them their money.

[grizzled plume]

Merge tetryons, diodes, twc’s into 24 hr chest. Need a way to reduce unnecessary clicks.

[bitter hearth]

or something like ,,claim all,, button

[bright saddle]

WHAT CREW IS GOOD FOR KINTGA

[wind eagle]

please show the exact amount of hull and shield health in details of the ship at least up to .000 rounded 🙈

[wind eagle]

relocation token in 24h chest is not guaranteed it is rng

[fallen parcel]

Meh. I get like 4 a week. Also, you can get them in the Alliance store

[wind eagle]

the point is... it should be guaranteed inside 24h chest so you get 2 a day with alliance store

[fallen parcel]

What do you need 2 a day for?

[trail garnet]

Others of us have 400 stored. So.......think this is a you issue

[pale inlet]

What is it with the recent releas every action selection in the ui is delayed with a black screen with the star fleet command logo with adjusting preparing activating routine which takes 5 to 10 seconds to complete. Extremly annoying.

[echo quiver]

If I may ask, what is the cyberpathic interface for?

[polar basin]

New feature? - cool if it would work

[fallen parcel]

“Working as expected “

[gleaming grove]

Alliance internal slb + alb or ams for loot:
Alliance internal slb: your alliance members are who you compete against for a cut of the loot.
The alb or ams for loot: alliance works together to get the biggest stash of loot. Alb would limit total rewards across server, ams would promote participation. Determining the available loot for the ai-slb via meta event would prevent single player alliances from cheesing rewards

[tranquil dew]

Why is there a Borg recruit thing on? Yea you can buy the tokens but isn’t it normally at the same time as the Borg events?

[fallen parcel]

No

[young dune]

I'm not a big spender but I'll occasionally splash out for a ship.

Maybe if you put ships on sale that I don't have yet and want rather than the Vi'dar time after time that I already have you might encourage me to spend.

Just a suggestion.

[balmy spear]

Even more insulting is the fact they didn't have the decency to allow us to earn even one measly draw through the Excretus event.... missed chance there but I guess Incursions didn't sell as many packs as they'd hoped, and so you just have to buy the recruit tokens at $20 and $100..... its... stupid.

[hoary blade]

with inflation I'm sure pack buying has slowed. And they're not giving good enough rewards to be worth it. now it seems like everything is pay incursion was big example of that If you didn't have the tokens you had to pay otherwise you weren't playing in the event to me that's just wrong! it's supposed to be a free to play game with a pay option to speed up gain that's not free to play if you can't even participate in the event.

[tawny gust]

the 40+ economy is still so borked when I spend 170k g4 rare armada loot for a single chest pull to get 4 lorca shards, 1k klingon faction credits, 10 epic armada directives vs this 30k rare armada loot from the g3 for a 6 chest pull to get this much better deal.

5.6 times the amount of rare armada loot for far, far less value in g4 armada packs.

[soft shuttle]

Hello everyone

[drowsy geyser]

Hello

[jagged flax]

It would be cool if, since they like to run armada events obnoxiously, they source the directives better... at least for the SMS events.

[brisk glacier]

Why can't I move crew around in locked slots? I know I can't use them but I like to keep my crews together and if I move them into a newer ship, I don't see why I have to swap ships back and forth to get the ideal active crew for the slots available

[halcyon kayak]

Hey @tacit obsidian .. new stuff is nice but why don't yall fix the notification system. The game will tell me when an Armada is started. But in over 8 months hasn't said a peep when my base gets attacked.

[ripe thicket]

Fix the station points for dailies and events. A station module post 40 takes billions of rss and weeks to finish. With you 'fixing' defense points where 1 will not finish, add a spend component. Give 1 point per 10mil parasteel spent. 1 points 5 mil tritanium, 1 point per 1 mim dilithium. Or figure out some point system so that starting a 5 week build at 4 bil parasteel gives 4000 points. Starting a new ops or a new big cost building will complete the station upgrades dailies or add lots of points to events. Getting only 4-6k points is not enough. Especially when you want us to get 1 million points off 40,000-100,000 points per building. And the uncommon wall prevents competing and completing. You can even add this same spend to research.

[polar basin]

If u take g4 rare chests then for the rare acc stuff. But i agree. The g3 rare is still the better deal

[ripe thicket]

We need drastically more faction credit sourcing or increase the daily payouts. When the game first started, it was not that bad. A little bit of wait and you are ok. Now, with all the officers out, it has gotten way way worse, especially for the independent. Most players need 40k+ independent credits for officers but we only only get a few hundred a day. And as we get more officers, that disparity only grows. Officer credit needs have quadrupled but the credit growth has only improved 10%. Do you see the problem here?

[polar basin]

Stfc is a game of choices, and yes the number of choices increase that a player must make. What is the right investment for your strategy and plan

[trail zenith]

Is it just me or are many players totally fed up with the constant armada events

[hexed brook]

Excretes of Borg not scoring

[nova sierra]

Some people don't pvp much. If you are routinely raiding it's much more likely to be an issue. So more of a pvp player vs pve "issue" not a him issue

[jade patio]

Wait until you get to Ops 40+ and need hundreds of thousands of armada credits to cash the G4 chests. You think you are sick of armadas now, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

[trail zenith]

Already am there

[patent flame]

https://youtu.be/-YFRUSTiFUs

[mossy leaf]

If yours only takes 5-10 seconds I’m jealous

[kindred pollen]

Is swarm hordes useful for something? I never see someone doing this armadas.

[glad cradle]

If you are able to defeat one, I think it completes your swarm daily (at ops 39).

[tired nexus]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[craggy saddle]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[tired nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-gif-23766673

[lime socket]

The host has a small chance of getting 4 jaylah shards

[glad cradle]

That’s disgusting!

[cyan cedar]

that is awful, so sorry that happened , i hope scopely does something about that ..

[glad cradle]

That’s so unlikely

[exotic wave]

Burning damage doesn't show in battle logs (i.e. no displayed damage dont)

[craggy saddle]

You mean there is no definite number of damage burning did in the log? Or does burning not work for you, like it's not getting triggered? 🤔

[exotic wave]

Burning triggers, I just dont see damage numbers associated with it in the battle log

[craggy saddle]

They don't appear in em. You can only calculate them yourself. Burning is 1% of the remaining hull health gone.
Let's say, Armada got 50m health, you take 0.5m off from Burning.
Next round it has 44m, so you take 0.44m off if burning hits again.
Exakt numbers may be available in a log parser, but not InGame 😦

[lime socket]

I even noticed that in logs if you destroy an armada with burning damage for eg, you never get the destroyed message so it looks like the log just stopped short

[craggy saddle]

A target should be able to be destroyed by burning damage 🤔

[lime socket]

It is, it just doesn’t say so in the log

[crude sandal]

That's one of the reasons they moved the burning damage to the end of a round, so that they weren't burned to death after a defeat.
I think the last drip of damage could be burning with the current ordering
Ships all shoot, burning kicks in, armada dies, new round starts (oh, armada dead = victory)

[sour dew]

Server 29: The game lag is so terrible that ship stats after battle are inaccurate and the system times you out almost every 10 min. <@&509691205798592532> when is Scopley going to resolve this issue? I'm unable to get any kind of honest answer from Scopley after sending multiple tickets of concern. Perhaps it's time to invest my money elsewhere for the time being?

[unique forge]

The three biggest things I think need to be addressed for the game are all old asks. 1) Update the hostile chest drops to drop loot better for your ops level. 2) Update daily rewards to again better suit your ops level. 3) Some kind of trade system for useless blue prints and old currencies that have been sitting in our inventory for well over 2 years

[rich nest]

Stop releasing new arcs. Your game has too many issues. You release new content to keep getting that 100 bucks. But... the game isn't actually being improved. Its being slowed down by constant content. Quit making new arcs, fix your game.

[gilded escarp]

Some good feedback would make the officers abilities somewhat close to what their character is like in the shows if you keep making new content; most of these strange new worlds officer’s abilities don’t fit their character, rather disappointing

[true zealot]

Tell me how you produced content without actually seeing the content you're working on.

[sacred garden]

The removed tfca idea I think was a bad Idea . Your original idea for treasurey I think would of been better. At least it sounded like everyone had the same equal opportunity to open the vault regardless of weither or not they were a spender or a free to play player. The way it is now isn’t fair to all. Free to play got screwed since the fact is the chance for a free to play to open the vault from broken rods this year is very slim. The amount you get is 360 from 30 day loyalty chest same from bp over flow . The later not all will get every month. I currently have a little over 2k broken rods , doing the math of it I figure if lucky to get heroic bp overflow I’ll be able to open the vault by Xmas if I wish. I don’t see it happening sooner then that since only every 28 days you can only get 360 broken rods and maybe if lucky once a month another 360 . Since bp overflow requires you to not only complete bp but to do so by completing every bp since overflow points are set very high. The loyalty chest requires you to complete the main points of 255 just to get 1. Not all can always achieve this due to various reasons . So most free to play probably won’t open the vault tell next year.

Holodeck is cool but execution sucks since you only get free every so often buffer patterns which you can only spend on the current arc that’s running when you get them . Should be able to earn so much from doing things just like you do with the standard officers shards and the transporter patterns. So people can run the ones they want without spending $20 every time. I know I sure as hell ain’t spending $20 every time I want to run the other holodeck missions, especially when gas and price of living is going up like crazy due to the Ukrainian Russian war!!!!

[true zealot]

Let's face it. Scopes adds content...and rather than revisit it, adding some rewards that would benefit new content. They completely forget all about the old stuff. New rewards would make old content viable again.

[dense timber]

People are getting the enraged red circles on our ships. I got it for misdirecting a NPC targeting my miner. And my miner lit up with the Flashing Red Circles.

[cyan ore]

I’m now at level 53 and struggling a bit to get the required resources for ops 54. How can you get the required g5 rare ore if you can’t refine it?

[fallen epoch]

Check which ships you can scrap for it?

[cyan ore]

@fallen epoch I’ve took a look at that. That would be Valdore and ktinga. But with the current game economy maxing them out will take 6 months - 1 year. Also you don’t receive the g4 ship parts from dailies and sometimes just from events . Refining the parts assuming you need around 400k with an average of 114 parts a day would take 3500 days.

[fallen epoch]

Wow that’s 🙈🙈🙈🙈

[tranquil dew]

What happened to the refinery changes? By the end of the month I heard

[cyan ore]

@fallen epoch or I could buy 3 station packs and save myself the pain and agony. But I wanted to point out this issue that g5 rare ore requirement is not so realistic.

Im not aware of any refinery changes . Maybe that will get better luck 👍

[fallen epoch]

Not happened yet and not end the month yet

[wide marsh]

@tacit obsidian @twilit mango Is there any word on what might be done to address the possibly permanent power disparity due to lack of subspace relay parts inflicted on the servers given a bye week?

[vale gale]

away team missions have helped a ton. with that said, where's the independent credit ATA mission? 😭

[fallen epoch]

Yeah it’s very strange I’m Ops 39 so I don’t know what G5 is like but that’s rough 😬

[exotic wave]

@tacit obsidian why are we being expected to pay for a 2nd elite track battle pass style event, we were already "short-changed" by two major events not running (2 iterations of incursions) - or are you planning to part refund that so we can buy this 2nd battle pass? 😡

[devout ermine]

Incursions running or not has had no effect on progress for battlepass. How were we “short-changed” on battlepass?

[fringe drum]

I conpleted battlepass but was short points heroic overflow 6100

[exotic wave]

An excellent point, so let me articulate this more precisely:

During the pandemic / Post pandemic period, I have spent a lot of time online here, for the most part thoroughly enjoying it. Whilst the game maybe playable F2P, I choose to happily support the game for amount of gametime enjoyment I get. I do this through the battle pass, not just for rewards but on the understanding that each month I as a player get new content / features and as a bonus enhanced milestone rewards.

I think many would agree that the content / features this month were... lacking, with not all events delivered

[true zealot]

Scopes, if a bonus battle pass is going to be a thing...it needs to be rare. Speaking of rare, we've a ton of rare new officers. If these see sourcing in here. Like SNW, the new kling rares (Gowan etc) I'd be ok with this.

[wind vortex]

And poof there goes the incursion feedback channel. As predicted.

[waxen oxide]

You want feedback. Let me give you some. How about fixing the damn alliance issue of people not being able to join an alliance because their level is to high to transfer to a new server because that is where the alliance is. I am apart of an alliance that is having this issue and because of it a lot of its members are unable to join because of not being able to transfer to the proper server. Fix this issue and maybe just maybe you might have a few more potential new players that might join this game.

[alpine elk]

Where do we report serious game problem? Game is not working as intended…..it’s…..super fast and smooth…..no lag…..never seen such a major malfunction 😱😱😱

[sullen pier]

Ignore all of us long enough in the hope we forget about it?

[fallen epoch]

Jaylah and Harrison have been mentioned for this rush pass. Maybe there is more maybe not we will see soon 😊

[wide marsh]

Hopefully not.

[craggy saddle]

Well, eco won't be responding as he is currently unavailable for discord. And to be fair, I haven't seen old man in ages 👀

[wide marsh]

Old man was online yesterday when I posted that.

[tall cradle]

On PC Client, (Ripper's Mod not Installed)...this morning I can only select ships in Drydocks D, E, and G. Half of the time I can get the ship in Drydock C selected, but never in Drydocks A or B. Restart game and PC. Problem persists. Anyone experiencing this issue? I also notice other issues related to click actions within GUI.

[vale wasp]

Try the repair option in the launcher, and if that fails, uninstall/delete game folder/reinstall.

[tall cradle]

Thank you. Repair didn't correct. Fresh install did.

[nova sierra]

Uh... where is this Micro Pass that we all got notifications for in game?

[trail garnet]

And running the Faction hunt ALB as a one day. Then not paying out and adding a second day is just bloody misleading.

[leaden umbra]

the same place all other events go....in the scopely botched it again chamber

[nova sierra]

This is no where to be found

[exotic wave]

sometimes during arc events, they are slow to populate - but admittedly more likely a scopely screw up

[tranquil dew]

Well yea but it’s usually “retrieving” for a bit, this is nothing, not even the cash shop has the unlock

[hardy bane]

Load up the apology chest!

[nova sierra]

You know I really like the game and want to spend some actual money on it but the way things are with Scopely I just cannot justify spending anything past the Battlepass they break it everything the fix it and just seems like there is no QC at all with Scopley...

[gleaming grove]

You know it's a full miss when they won't take your money

[lilac yew]

How about adding something useful that will allow more players to participate in your "PVP events". Like bringing back the 19.99 second repair option.

[dusky mortar]

Hey scopoly where is that flash bp u announced?

[dreamy drum]

It was a fake out. It's Faction Hunt all week!

[dim hemlock]

At least they’re consistent

[dusky mortar]

Typical scopoly promise all and then do jack

[fair drum]

I've been getting some in event rewards, not many, but a few

[viscid dagger]

Anyone not having the elite show up in the store for them?

[bold dagger]

I bought the mini flash bp, and got nothing despite the payment being processed, so sounds on-brand...

[craggy saddle]

Had the same and now got the reward. Can you check again please? 🙂

[bold dagger]

Just came through. Guess they got the plunger out and cleared the pipe... 😉

[dim hemlock]

Seriously? We have to buy jayla shards? NOT going to happen Scopely

[junior lava]

No mats no money

[next badge]

Mini BP grade: C-. Free stuff is ok, but the pay to play is meh. Sorry won’t buy as at the $9.99 it is not even worth that. Do it better next time.

[ocean patio]

Feedback on mini bp. As a l56 player it’s offers nothing of value and only provides yet another reason for me to not be playing any more. How can scopley price at £90 when clearly inferior, clue is in the name to the full bp?

[nova sierra]

It is in the Store.

[edgy harness]

Gotta make sure your game updated today.

[polar basin]

Latest app store patch. A step back for mankind

[edgy harness]

Been that way since incursions patch for us.

[craggy saddle]

Difference is, this thing now got released to mobile as well. Before that, it was pc only 👀

[wide aurora]

Would really like it if daily faction rewards didn’t reduce other faction favor since you already took a dip to accomplish the task

[polar basin]

Hmm, maybe we should introduce testing before release? 🤔 I know, revolutionary thought, but sometimes such major innovations are needed

[edgy harness]

Nope, on mobile and tablet since then too. Just hitting more researches than before. (Stupid slo mode making a reply take forever). Not beta (although aren’t we all their alpha and beta testers anymore?) just saying it’s been a problem for a couple updates now. Was only in outlaw and new galaxy researches, now that bug can pop up on any research.

[craggy saddle]

That is weird 🤔
Mobile got introduced today

Are you in the beta program maybe?
Maybe we should talk about that in #🌌-galaxy-chat ?

[polar basin]

Slow mode should be accelerated to a minute

[edgy harness]

All channels should be slow-moded for 10 minute timers. Make us all edit our own posts endlessly in an attempt to keep a conversation going, by the end we will all look prescient.

[faint burrow]

I
LOVE The idea here and the QOL update that appears to be coming that will preview us the Power gains within the game for a research so we don't have to go to stfc.space. Can't wait for this to start working:

[polar basin]

🤔 This might have been reported before I think

[faint burrow]

First day I've seen it so I don't know if the bug is that it's showing when not released, or the bug is its released but not working

[upper parrot]

PC client got this update several days ago. It is possible they push the updates there first to test if nothing breaks, as less people play on PC and worst case they can switch to mobile phone for a few days.

[edgy harness]

It’s been out in general since the incursion updates from the other week. It was only showing on a couple specific researches at that point though.

[trail garnet]

Notice we have had screw up after screw up for weeks and not one apology chest?

[golden bluff]

I get that part of Star Trek‘s mission was to seek out intelligent life, but I really feel like I shouldn’t have to do that when I reach out to the “contact us” section in game..

[odd brook]

is anyone else experiencing very slow stores/refinery/tabs on pc client? seems to take an age to exit each store

[polar basin]

What the pay store is down ???? ❗ ALARM ❗

[odd brook]

🤣 i meant faction stores, alliance, territory stores etc

[smoky onyx]

SCOPELY - Stop messing with the icons. Pick one and stick with it. It makes scanning for what I'm looking for really hard. especially when you cookie cutter out the normal icon and make it smaller. I'm old and on a phone... don't make me get my glasses!!!

[karmic mural]

Thanks for the 150 July resource daily gift... That expires in 65 days so you can't get all 150

[nova sierra]

Very excited for this

[faint burrow]

They spend 10 at a time. 150=15 days

[karmic mural]

Ahh true.. I forgot about that

[thick jasper]

didnt get any x,,D

[karmic mural]

Maybe it was only certain servers? I'm on 63

[tranquil dew]

So what’s the plan with the merged rankings still? Just gonna accept it until after the next incursion?

[glad cradle]

That’s why I don’t use in game customer service chat anymore. I use email only because, more often than in game, the responses are much quicker.

[strange folio]

@tacit obsidian i am VERY disappointed with this mini BP. Thanks for the freebie i suppose but there is NO way this paid pass is remotely close to being worth it. Maybe if there was some decent gas and some away team xp but no.

[tacit obsidian]

I appreciate the feedback so we can look at future passes like this. When making a pass, everyone has different ideas of what is most valuable to them. The team tried to provide universally liked items (such as rare directives and Syndicate XP) sorry this one missed the mark for you

[strange folio]

I understand that and i like that the team is attempting to adress access to different things and jayla shards are desirable it just seems for the price that it comes up significantly short. Take for example of what you receive during an arc for the premium pass for 20 vs what you receive for 10 in this pass.

[tacit obsidian]

More than happy to talk to the team about the value and the timeframe of the pass

I've seen that a few times and would be happy to have a discussion about it

[true zealot]

It was a solid, and quite frankly a breath of fresh air. Folks complaining about money will always complain. Hero shards, syndicate xp and vault shards are always welocme. Bonus it breaks up the usual arc off week with something new. I'm thankful yall willing to try new stuff, and tweak as necessary for the community

[tacit obsidian]

I think many feel like it's a good idea just could be improved

From what I've seen

And it's the first time we're doing this. Sometimes what we think is on the mark isn't right for everyone else

Which is why it's great we can talk about things so we can improve

[strange folio]

Dude, ive blown bricks on this game so dont even get me started.

[strange folio]

Yes, i agree. 5 bucks and i would have gotten it. A little bit more output on the teams part and i would have gotten it too. I am not trying to be entirely negative. When the news was announced i was definitely looking forward to it. Infact i was watching the clock awaiting reset to see what was coming.

[strange folio]

@tacit obsidian thank you for responding. I am glad you are part of our community and since i have your ear.. there is one thing i ask for every time one of those surveys come out and that is higher level borg probe systems. Please! Pretty please. Like lvl 40+ with scaled nanoprobes. Please. Vidar-a or something to that effect would be fantastic too!

[wind vortex]

It seems like poor value to me but honestly, everything in this game is (in my opinion) so I'm not at all surprised. I'm not gonna pay the price of an entire new AAA game for a single officer, or the price of three months of Humble Monthly for a 1-month battlepass. I like the game but the math does not hold up for me.

(and please note those are all my personal value judgements, subjective not objective)

[slim shoal]

I feel the same way. I've dropped a lot of money on gaming in my lifetime and will continue to do so as my main hobby. The pricing in stfc still blows my mind. I just started Diablo Immortal, and despite it being a much more story and graphics intensive game (i.e. way more dev time needed) the in-game transactions are $2, $5, etc. Much more in line with what you'd expect. And most games that are all upfront and no in-game purchases are still in the $30-$60 range. Then along comes stfc with its $800 ships and $1,000 officer unlocks. I've spent $150 on stfc so far in a year of playing and that makes me a peasant free-to-play player. 😆 (Our opinions are not the law, and I'm sure many here will disagree... to each their own.) I guess I'm just not in the target audience... but I'd be willing to spend $10-15 a month on this game, and instead its $0 because the prices are too high. Diablo Immortal has some people dropping thousands on it, and others spending $5. They're hitting all the price ranges effectively. Its hard to imagine that stfc couldn't also.

[strange folio]

150? Thats what? Premium bp on arc and maybe a pack of tickets? Kinda similar to most mmo subscription fees.. the rest can definitely be excessive. I dont disagree with smaller incremental store items but they are never proportional.

[slim shoal]

Both extra research queues, extra builder and a couple passes. Its Cdn $ too, so those things were $27 each. The value for free-to-play players IS good though, its why I'm still here. I just know that I'd probably be in for another $100 or so in 5$ purchases by now if things were less crazy. But all these $140 packs is just nutso to me.

[nova sierra]

Paid pass is technically good value when you consider what scopely sets harrison jaylah and syndicate xp packs at. One might even say 500% value

[wind vortex]

The build queue is "cheap" at NZ$8.49 but hardly useful, since there's less to build than to research (at least, so far up to where I am, ops29). The research queue is NZ$34 (I presume US$20) which is about what I'd shell out on an entire game during a steam sale.
I guess congrats to scopely for finding an audience where these prices work? 🤷

[vapid plinth]

@tacit obsidian

[nova sierra]

Omg🤣

[sullen terrace]

@tacit obsidian On the 21st of July I reported obvious cheating during one of the Incursion events, I got a canned response on the 22nd but haven’t heard anything since. Any chance you could chase that up? I enjoyed Incursions, but trying to compete with someone using a bot took a lot of the fun out of it.

[tight oar]

hi Scopely. Can we please have bigger mycelium mines in the game so we can just leave the disco mining without having to refresh it a dozen times?

[wide marsh]

I agree that pretty much everything in Scopely's cash store is overpriced by a factor of 4-10. That said, I have spent a little (I'm fairly sure it's less than $500 over 2 years). I haven't spent for 8 or 9 months now - my side job dried up and my oldest is about to go to college, so things are tighter. The $10 price point has me contemplating spending again though. I still think it's overpriced, but it's something I might be able to do (especially with gas prices dropping again). I would guess there are others who might spend if there were more options at a less than $20 price point.

[polar basin]

In game chat: Ossi is a forbidden word, but Wessi is not. Explain 🙏

[nova sierra]

@mild hemlock this one’s for you.

[mild hemlock]

He’s rare but I found him. He’s safe in my collection.

[mild hemlock]

🤣

[keen latch]

Is there any chance we could get an exchange loot converter? It is literally impossible to spend all the Uncommon Exchange Loot with maximum pulls (even when rep is maxed). With an exchange loot converter, Uranium will still be controlled via the Loot>Uranium exchange rate even if an UNC Loot>Rare Loot>Epic Loot has an expensive exchange rate like 10:1. Or one of the whales in my alliance suggested Uncommon/Rare/Epic exchange loot chest for mats so exchange still remains relevant after the entire research tree is completed

[sacred garden]

One of the biggest screw ups in the game is how armadas rewards were screwed up. Used to be you fight uncommon to get uncommon credits and rare armada d’s , rare for rare armada credits and epic d’s. Now though it’s all screwed up. All I ever get no matter what armada I fight and beat I only get epic d’s with that armada credits. Which makes it more impossible to run crate armadas. Which is what I really need. Nice job in screwing up the armadas so badly scopley!!!!

[nova sierra]

Any plans in the next days / weeks to fix the lag issues?

[lime socket]

What? That’s still the way it works. Only exchange armadas drop epic directives from uncommon and rare when you beat them and that’s cos it’s the only way to get epic directives

[vale wasp]

If you need rare eclipse directives, you'll need to farm codes and mine green data to do the exchanges inside the Rogue store.

[keen latch]

I have no issue with directive sourcing other than the only reason to do uncommon armadas is for the directives... i have too much UC loot/uranium (see above). There is just no where to use all the uncommon loot... ive done all the work, let me do something with the loot...gotta scrap 57 t5 stellas to use that uc loot?

[nova sierra]

There are worse ways to use it, while you wait for rare and epic to build up 👍🏻

[nova sierra]

way too soon with the incursion! way too soon!

[tacit obsidian]

Did you submit a ticket about this?

[vapid lantern]

My question is... when is incursion prep phase? The original event calendar had a 2 day prep phase events prior to each incursion...

[edgy harness]

@tacit obsidian, people have submitted links to videos showing people using bots before where they show how they interrupt the macro searching for hostiles by smacking a red 1 second before the other person does, with a realta, forcing the bot ship to pause while it searches for a new hostile to target, and the person is afk in every other way. All that ever happened was the user who posted them got slapped by takedown notices a few weeks later through YouTube.
At this point it’s accepted that the winners in every slb ship damage, hostile killing, or pvp event that counts hitting empty bases is a bot. No one plays 20+ hours at a time.

[trail garnet]

@tacit obsidian thanks for the announcement and your enthusiasm.

Please take note of the emoji clicked though. Number one by a mile was the poop emoji.

Do we really want to keep pushing forward with a "upgrade" that gets a poop emoji more than any other?

[echo quiver]

Is there a way to merge 2 character accounts in 1 character account

[vale wasp]

Never heard of such a thing, so no

[fresh drift]

@echo quiver Keep the one that have the higher level

[waxen kite]

Why are they pushing Incursion so fast is beyond me, except its war and war makes money to scopley.... i think 500 poop emotes on @tacit obsidian announcement about Incursion says it all.

[craggy saddle]

We had waaay worse than 500 😉

[waxen kite]

dont worry anouncement was made late night, wait till people wake up 😛

[vapid plinth]

Not everyone just wants to mine...

[sullen terrace]

Thanks for responding @tacit obsidian, I did but not sure I submitted it in the right section. The ticket number is #7947086.

[zinc swan]

Can we switch cath for mara on "threat from Beyond" rewards or something? Or any consistent sourcing for cath?

[lament scroll]

Its back

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian are we competing again with the same server we fought with last incursion?

[cursive gorge]

I raided a guy for 2hours while his bot was farming reds in a system.
Send video in. It was "investigated"
Guy is still botting on our server.

[humble grove]

Has there been any news on the pips at all? They are still everywhere 🔴 🔴 🔴

[nova sierra]

their response was to add more of them

[modern crane]

Swarm dailies are not scoring even after a game restart. Other dailies are scoring.

[patent depot]

Laaaaag.

[graceful lotus]

No dailies or events are scoring

[sullen terrace]

That’s discouraging to read, if they don’t ban people for obvious cheating then there’s not much point playing the game if you aren’t also willing to cheat. I can counter pay to win players by grinding more, but there is no way to beat someone using a bot.

[sullen terrace]

The person that beat me in the Champion XSLB was definitely using a bot. I stayed up till 4.30am then was awake again at 9am hitting empty bases. The guy that won came from nowhere in the last couple of hours and overtook me, for context I was hitting 2 empty bases right next to each other with 2 ships. To pass me so quickly he had to be doing the same with 4 or 5 ships, I'm not convinced that a human can consistently do that with 4 or 5 ships for 2 solid hours without missing a beat. It's really frustrating to have worked so hard only to lose to someone putting in very little effort by using a bot. :Edit, my original post was removed for naming and shaming, it seems that Scopely are ok with people cheating but not people calling out cheaters. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[vale wasp]

They're not okay with either. There's nothing beyond human capability from your original post, your score wouldn't even take top 3 in my bracket. You seem to understand how to win, but what stopped you from doing it?

[sullen terrace]

The overall score isn’t the issue here, it’s the speed that they were scoring points. I do understand how to win, but I also understand what is and isn’t possible. I don’t use a bot so not being able to manually hit 4 or 5 bases at the same time is what stopped me from winning. Not sure why you included the weird flex about your leaderboard, I suspect you have misunderstood the issue at play here.

[vale wasp]

Hitting 4 bases for hours was easily possible. Some people can't do that, but that's not a condition that affects everyone.

[polar basin]

Many people here more than dislike the incursion event. I fail to see why. Everyone i believe has the chance to not participate and do only the other events that run in parallel. Happy to learn - what is the dark side?

[sullen terrace]

I disagree, but feel free to prove me wrong by uploading a video of yourself hitting 4 or 5 bases for hours without missing a beat.

[vale wasp]

Is it the physical monotony that you can't stand? or does the client not update fast enough for you?

[sullen terrace]

Both to be fair. Each time you hit a station you have to select a ship, then a target and then hit attack, there is a physical limit to how quickly a human can do that, so beyond a certain number of ships there would be no advantage to a human player as ships would constantly be sitting doing nothing. But using a bot your ships would be attacking constantly as it doesn’t have the same limitations as a human. The speed at which they were scoring points was too fast, and Scopely could confirm that by checking input timings. To be honest they should be doing that by default to mitigate against botting.

[vale wasp]

How many times can you hit a base with one ship per minute?

[lament scroll]

I think I could do 4 ships hitting 2 bases for a couple of hours with pc client, I do that raiding rss with three ships one more wouldn't really test me

[vale wasp]

It's even easier here since you don't have to wait for the ship to impulse. Just click on base, hit attack and select the next ship.

[sullen terrace]

I don’t know, how would anyone know that without timing it?

[vale wasp]

You time it and tell us.

[sullen terrace]

That tactic wouldn’t work here, as you wouldn’t be scoring points any quicker than 2 ships hitting 2 bases. You need to be hitting 4 or 5 bases with 4 or 5 ships. Even with the pc client it’s not that easy as clicking on bases can be finicky at times. You also need to be doing it quickly enough so that your 1st and 2nd ships aren’t sitting doing nothing while you’re controlling ship 4 or 5, otherwise there’s no advantage to having the extra ships. I’m not convinced a human can do that for 2 or 3 hours, but happy to be proved wrong if someone wants to give it a try.

[vale wasp]

What device do you use?

[sullen terrace]

PC mostly but also play on iPad. I disagree with your previous comment about this being easier, it’s not. It takes about 5 seconds to complete a base hit, you then have to attack with 3 or 4 other ships in that 5 second window otherwise you have ships sitting about not scoring points, thus there would be no advantage and it wouldn’t explain how they were scoring points so quickly.

[vale wasp]

Great so we have a starting point. 5s per base hit, that's 12 hits a minute, 720 hits an hour, 17280 hits in a day per ship. With each hit counting for 15pts you could have 259,200 pts in a day with just one ship, that'll be fine for consideration as the human limit. My point for bringing up my bracket's scoring earlier was to show that you weren't even close to the human limit, and from this derivation it's even more clear.

Regarding your pts/hr concern. 720 hits an hour, is 10800 pts for one ship. Controlling two ships is trivially easy, so 20k there. And doing it over the allotted 2h will get them the pts they need to beat you.

[crude sandal]

it's only when you hit the 4-5 ships at a time that I reckon things slow down, but then a small amount of lag on combats ending could be helpful in keeping rhythm

[nova sierra]

I’ve done four ship grind before in a single system. It’s entirely possible. It is also exhausting, but possible and bots are absolutely not faster as the game is the slowest part for me doing that anyway.

[crude sandal]

Keeping the plates spinning is the hardest part, but even with slight delay between a ship ending attack and starting again while you select and target means if you're in a suitable spot with several dead bases which you can just cycle through with your ships parked on top of them, don't even have top be big ships if the bases are dead.

Boring as anything, and likely not getting a top damage or rss raided position... but definitely doable

[sullen terrace]

No, 5 seconds is the time it takes your ship to hit a base, you still have to select the ship and target the base then hit attack, all of that takes time. Unless you’re a robot then you also have to factor in misclicks and the game targeting the wrong base etc. so your human limit is somewhat optimistic at best. Again the problem isn’t the overall score, it’s the speed at which they were scoring. You show me a video of you hitting 4 or 5 bases with 4 or 5 ships for 2 hours, it’s easy to say what might be possible, but reality doesn’t work that way. I was hitting 2 bases with 2 ships constantly for about an hour and a half and I wasn’t getting 20k points per hour, not even close. If you can do it then upload a video showing that.

[crude sandal]

Doesn't take 5 seconds to select a ship, station and a button, PC is probably slower than mobile for that.
tap, tap, press.
less than a second to start a fight, might as well start 4 more while the first is finishing

[sullen terrace]

You’ve hit 4 bases with 4 ships before? Outside of Incursions I’m not sure why you’d do that? Normal base raiding usually doesn’t involve hitting the same 4 or 5 dead bases for hours on end. Using 4 ships on 1 or 2 bases isn’t the same thing. It’s definitely exhausting and not good for your hand or wrist.

[sullen terrace]

Maybe not with a single ship, but when you’re using 4 or 5 then that time is multiplied and you aren’t getting back to your 1st ship before you target and attack with ship 4 or 5. If your ships are sitting doing nothing then they aren’t earning points and give no advantage over using less ships. If people are confident they can do it then feel free to upload a video proving me wrong. If I’m wrong then I don’t mind admitting it, but till I see it I’m not convinced that I am wrong here.

[quasi condor]

Who's in the tree🤣

[vale wasp]

Once you hit attack the ship is locked into animation for 5s, and you can select the 2nd ship during that downtime and attack there. So no, that doesn't add to the time total unless your control capabilities are slower than it takes for the animation to finish.

[nova sierra]

I hit four hostiles with four ships for three hours before, yes.

[quasi condor]

Lol

[vale wasp]

There is advantage in always having an available ship ready to attack, even if it you aren't always perfectly in sync. Waiting on an animation is wasted time, and that's costing you pts.

[sullen terrace]

So you can click on a target and attack and it takes 0 time? Impressive. Almost as impressive as the straw clutching here to defend cheating. I get the point, I’ll go play another game that is more proactive on dealing with cheating. 👍

[vale wasp]

I can click on a target under me, and click on the gray button over and over until it turns green, yes. It's not even hard.

I've not defended cheating once, you've claimed that they are cheating because they are scoring better than you without evidence otherwise.

[lime socket]

Ouch what for

[nova sierra]

This. Someone being better at a game, more determined or just having more time doesn’t make them a cheater.

[sullen terrace]

Hitting hostiles isn’t the same thing, the time between hits is much longer and less time time critical. Try doing it with 4 or 5 ships and the same number of bases, you’ll realise quickly that it’s not the same.

[sullen terrace]

People have already stated here that they provided video evidence of cheating and nothing was done, what level of evidence is required before action is taken? Do I have to get a signed confession? Maybe sceeenshots of the person admitting they are cheating. What is the bar here? Show me a video of you attacking 4 or 5 bases for 2 hours, if it’s as easy as you claim this should be no trouble for you.

[nova sierra]

You talk like I haven’t been playing this game for three years; the first raiding event whatever it was called I was looting three stations around the same planet for an hour 😆. You’re reaching for an explanation as to how you got beaten, and you won’t hear that it is entirely possible that someone beat you on merit. Bots on this game are not fast; they are consistent. In order to be fast they would need to avoid the UI. @lime socket Faction hunt, trying to place a three man alliance. We got to P5 😆.

[vale wasp]

You're conflating their problems with yours. Your evidence is empty and those scores are achievable by determined human players.

It's easier if you post a video of your playing so that we can analyze it.

[nova sierra]

“He was grinding hostiles while being looted” our admiral does that fairly often, someone close to a level push before arcfall needs steel he bungs a few tokens in and they steal it from him. There are some obvious bots, but behaviours that people are adamant “must” be cheating and bots can be as quickly explained through stupidity (we had someone log on during incursions while they were being raided, repair, and log off again), dedication, alcohol, or a lack of situational understanding. That is why fighting bots in this game is so difficult.

[sullen terrace]

I never claimed it was easy to do, you did. So prove it, upload a video. It’s easy to say something is easy but actions speak louder than words, show me.

[polar basin]

PC?

[nova sierra]

It’s not for anyone here to prove what is patently obvious; you’ve made your baseless allegations, you’ve vented that something must be done… when you can evidence cheating I’ll be the first here wanting to get it addressed because I despise it, but resting on your laurels because you think your lead is unassailable isn’t evidence of cheating I’m afraid.

[vale wasp]

Just show us a video of your playing and we can show you all the room for improvement that can be made.

[sullen terrace]

Ah but what about the people here that provided video evidence of cheating and still nothing was done. So again I ask what level of proof is required? I didn’t rest on my laurels I was hitting 2 bases with 2 ships, that’s hardly resting on my laurels is it? But essentially what you’re saying is that I need to provide some unknown level of evidence to back up my claims, but other people can make claims and don’t have to back those up? Cool I get it. 👍

[nova sierra]

I’ve already said. You aren’t listening; and I’ve no interest in spending any longer trying to educate someone that has no interest in being educated. For nearly every instance of “cheating” the behaviour can be explained any of a bajillion other ways. Have a great day.

[lime socket]

How many hours did you actually spend hitting the two bases? You said you slept for less than 5 hours that day but also that you were only hitting bases for an hour and a half?

[sullen terrace]

You’re sidestepping here, you claimed that it was easy to hit 4 or 5 bases for hours so it should be really easy for you to provide a video showing that. Uploading a video of me playing the game has absolutely no bearing on the gameplay during incursions, since I don’t spend a lot of time hitting empty bases during normal gameplay, do you?

[vale wasp]

Do you claim that you are at the peak of performance for the event?

[shell pollen]

I would appreciate a second look at g4 ship scrap rewards and scrap time. I have built a lot of extra g4 ships due to excess BPs and I can't even get rid of them in a timely fashion, let alone the unreasonably small amount of resources returned.

[sullen terrace]

I was mostly hitting bases with 1 ship, till I noticed in the last hour and a half of the event that someone further down the leaderboard was gaining points really quickly. So I switched to using 2 ships at that point, but the other person caught and overtook me with about 40 mins left. I don’t know how many hours I spent hitting bases, but it was a decent amount.

[shell pollen]

hmm. It would be interesting if someone developed a script so quickly to hit empty bases. but there is definitely cheating in this game and I don't expect scopely to do more than the bare minimum to fix it

[sullen terrace]

You’re sidestepping again, why not upload the video instead of asking questions that have no quantifiable answer? If it’s as easy as you say then I’ll expect to see the video in a couple of hours. 👍

[vale wasp]

The questions have answers, and they are specific to you. Knowing those answers gets us closer to understanding why it is you believe what you believe.

[shell pollen]

on my server there is (was) at least one player using a simple farming bot which auto repairs after destruction. I know because I killed his augur over 100 times without any reaction before he woke up to turn it off. My advice to botters: just mine cryptocurrency and buy packs if you want to win so badly. It uses the same resources more efficiently and is 100% scopely approved. Anyway, have fun with your verbal conflict bortus/candle! 😁

[nova sierra]

Or because he didn’t react because reacting to people that blow your ship up is how you get more attention…. Not saying that he wasn’t botting, but you can’t prove that he was just because he repaired his ship…

[sullen terrace]

I don’t have any experience with bots or scripts for the game, so I’m not entirely sure. But base raiding is already part of the normal game so I’m not sure they’d have to write a new script? They might have just modified an existing one, since it’s just repeating the same actions over and over again on stationary targets it would likely be fairly easy.

[sullen terrace]

No they are sidestepping tactics, instead of providing a video that you know you can’t produce, you are asking pointless questions to shift attention. It’s a fairly obvious tactic and not one that is going to work here. Upload the video, I look forward to seeing it. 👍

[shell pollen]

A cursory glance at google and conversation with someone relatively tech-savvy should make it obvious there are bots. I don't want to engage or speculate myself further. My advice is just to live with it. There are whales. There are bots. There are rogues. And there is also Scopely 🤣So what? Play your own game and be happy with the 'rewards' you get for trying your best.

For incursions, scopely might change the scoring but I would say that it is because hitting empty bases is stupid. Also it is a legitimate possibility the other player just found a place to spam 6 or 7 stations at once.

[vale wasp]

Then we can only assume that the answers are not favorable to you.

In any case, this is me and I know the kind of playing I had to do to win this. My score was over 60k, and yes, I was farming 4 bases for pts because I understood how to win too, but I was also willing to put in the work. I didn't feel a need to accuse other players in my bracket because I understood the real human limit and how truly far away from that I was.

[nova sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

[sullen terrace]

Ah more sidestepping, should I assume that you can’t provide the requested video because you can’t actually do what you claimed was easy? There was no need for me to score 60k points, up till the last hour and a half the guy in 2nd wasn’t catching me, and I wasn’t accounting for someone using a bot in the last couple of hours, my bad.

[vale wasp]

I'm trying to help you play better here, and the video of your gaming would make it abundantly clear where you can improve. We've already math'd out the pts that could be earned using your numbers. The real question is why you're so far away from peak.

[crude sandal]

Unless you're moving the cursor with your nose, I have no idea why you think it takes more than a second to click three points on a screen.
And it's even faster with a touch interface. You spend longer waiting for the green button to load on the modal

I can't demo raiding 4 bases right now, because surprisingly, outside of an incursion, it's pretty difficult to find several bases around one planet that you can move to, are not shielded, and are offline 😂

[wide marsh]

From what I can gather skimming this conversation, they don't feel that your evidence of botting is convincing. Your argument seems to boil down to 'someone got points faster than I thought was possible - it must be a bot'. They claim it isn't and have some back of the envelope calculations that support that. Your response is to request they spend hours making a video to prove it to you. Does that more or less capture the argument so far?

[sullen terrace]

I don’t recall asking you to help me play better, I do recall asking you to upload a video several times though, so how about that video when should I expect to see it?

[nova sierra]

I think you’ve had the answer; 31st of February. He’s not your servant, you’ve constantly had your allegations here refuted with math-based answers.

[vale wasp]

If you could play better you'd accuse innocent people of cheating less, and you'd break fewer rules on this discord as well.

[nova sierra]

I’ll do you a solid, later on when I’m bored or drunk or maybe even both I’ll do a short video of four ship grind. I dispute your suggestion that “stations are harder” for the very obvious reason that hitting stations when snapping to each ship snaps you to the target you want to hit, so four station hitting is far, far easier. That’s my offer, if it ain’t good enough well you can carry on playing slowly and complaining about players being better than you 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sullen terrace]

I’ll look forward to seeing the video then. I respect the fact that you are willing to back up what you’re saying instead of endlessly sidestepping. 👍

[nova sierra]

He’s not sidestepping, he just doesn’t have to make a video to demonstrate something mathematically obvious. I’m just bored enough of this circular argument to prove how wrong you are.

[wide marsh]

I'm just happy slow mode is on.

[umbral wren]

Makes me feel so confident that they know what they are doing when they can't even update all the dates when they post about the prep events....

[cursive gorge]

He was referring to my post.
I looted the guy.. for 2hours.
He didn't "donate" to me.
His ship was in another system doing reds. You could see that the bot was looking for the next target everytime he finished his hostile. And he flew across the whole system to get to the next one and left others out that were nearby.
I knew already he was botting but obviously it is hard to prove. I checked his base everyday and night. His ship was afk farming everyday in the same system for hours and the complete night.
One day he didn't shield.
I don't know how much better of a prove you will ever be able to provide. But looks like either noone cares or it's just not enough...

[waxen kite]

i have managed to hit 4 bases with 4 ships, but the strain it made i gave up after 20mins of being utterly focused

[icy jetty]

When are the invading alliances going to be removed from the leaderboards on our server?

[devout blaze]

Never. They are too concerned with running garbage events and fleecing people for money to fix issues they create. Just my not so humble opinion based on 3 years of watching how Scopely works.

[leaden lintel]

@tacit obsidian can we get the name of server 28 spelled correctly? They have misspelled Lexington.

[steel escarp]

@tacit obsidian Are we supposed to have to BattlePass events today? First thing this morning we got clear the coast and now I also have Domination. Domination did not show up until I restarted my game. I completed Domination but the points did not add to my BattlePass.

[fallen epoch]

Domination wasnt supposed to be there

[steel escarp]

So glad I spent the 1.5M officer XP to complete it then. Any way they can score the points for it and add them to our battle pass.

[fallen epoch]

Not sure yet. Eco hasnt said anything yet

[steel escarp]

Thanks.

[leaden umbra]

dont do the domination bp event

[glad cradle]

Too late for many players

[kind raven]

@eco second battle pass milestone event showed up, I spent the officer XP (and independent credits) to complete it and when I returned, the event was missing and no battle pass credit was given. Seems to be a widespread issue

[pure nebula]

It is disturbing that it was put up... Complained about and taken down with no word from our game Masters. Mistakes happen. However we deserve better than a total comms blackout over it.

[pine vigil]

What kind of double dealing crap is this? You give us an event for the arc and you then take it away. I spent $$ to complete research to complete the event. This is as far as I am concerned theft. I want my points. I was 245K pts from being complete.

This is completely brain dead!!

[jagged solstice]

I think 1000 UNC seems reasonable

[true zealot]

They're preparing our snw Pike shards in an oopsie chest

[steel escarp]

Should have just left it up, applied the points and extended it to a 48 hour event. It is probably going to run tomorrow anyway.

[tepid bay]

Not looking to get into the conversation you're having with the other person, but could you provide some tips for how you made it to 60k? I'm looking to take notes lol

[vale wasp]

Have a competitive mindset going into it and understand the amount of effort you'll have to put in. I was calculating pt rate gains and expected hours I'd need to do it throughout the process in order to maintain a lead, and when I could cruise, almost never. I had a plan if whales would harass me, one did, and I moved to a secondary location to continue.

A key part of the information gathering process is probably the best thing I did: scouting. I looked for several locations that had the right base levels with a nearby set of 4. A perfect planet was found in Kepler, 4 bases on one planet in my range.

The rest was just execution. Load up a show to watch, get comfortable, and perform the task. The monotony will melt your brain if you don't take steps to distract yourself. And don't let off the gas if the competition is strong. I knew the top competitors from years of playing with them and their level of effort.

[velvet lotus]

The DVor Feesha ship XP required for each level seems astronomically high. 378k to move from L15 to L16, which is nearly twice as high as required to take an Augur from L44 to L45. Is there a reason it is so high, especially when it is a miner and not a warship?

[ripe ridge]

If you think that is bad, just wait til you have to upgrade the cerritos from lv15-16..

[velvet lotus]

Looks like Cerritos is the same XP scale as the Feesha, at least according to stfc.space. And in theory the Cerritos has more ability to actually kill reds and get XP. They really need to incorporate some kind of ship XP for mining for survey ships.

[fallen epoch]

🤔 how much xp does it take to take a G4 epic 50 ship from level 15-16

I haven’t checked but maybe that’s the answer

[velvet lotus]

Just checked and you’re right: the epic G4 ships are on the same XP scale as well. Which makes sense if you’re killing L50+ hostiles and getting a decent whack of XP from them. But for a Feesha and Cerritos, which people are getting whilst still in Ops30s? It seems a massive over-requirement

[fallen epoch]

Well both ships are epic G4’s and are ships that are progressed over a long period of time so maybe it makes sense 🤔 the lower levels probably not

[lime socket]

It’s just about g4, not g4 epic. Even the franklin A needs 378k xp to go from lvl 15 to lvl 16, and so would the g4 faction miners.

[fallen epoch]

I haven’t actually checked the other G4’s 😬😬😬 just assumed epic = epic 😅🤣

[nova sierra]

G4 ships need biblical amounts of XP.

[hollow pike]

G4 ships need biblical amounts of lat you mean

[fallen epoch]

G5 must need godly amounts then

[glossy bramble]

@tacit obsidian

Can we get a list of Broken officer abilities and when they are expected to be repaired?

there are quite a few with broken OA, CM or BDA(La'an) that have never worked, or were broken through updates.

[acoustic cloud]

Y'all got anymore of them bonus refineries?

https://tenor.com/view/dave-tyrone-dave-biggums-dog-cat-gif-22873477

[nova sierra]

La’an works. To my knowledge it’s Kang? Barot and Tal.

[wide marsh]

The display for La'an is broken though, leading people to complain that she doesn't work. They should fix it to cut down on the whining.

[cursive gorge]

But if you raid a base and take 5b per hit it would be nice if the battle report works .. for once...

[fallen epoch]

Noo that’s bad (sort of) then people will complain Tendi and Mariner stopped working correctly as their power increase will decrease

[fallen epoch]

Yep once an arc it seems

[lime scroll]

Hey Scopely: Run incursions in a tournament format...pools + brackets or brackets and consolation brackets.

[cold seal]

How are Kang and Barot broken?

[fallen epoch]

Barots officer ability doesnt trigger as for Kang idk if there is an issue there

[cinder garden]

i notice a difference with kang captain killing swarm, pretty sure it works

[fallen epoch]

yh i think so too

[nova sierra]

Pretty sure Kang only works for two rounds. Barot just straight up doesn’t work.

[cinder garden]

I'll go test kang on eclipse, should be easy to get a crit in 2nd/3rd round to compare

yeah 1-1.2m crits in round 1&2, 800k in round 3

[thick ermine]

🙂

[wide kestrel]

can we get a ds9 base refit if next arc is ds9?

[arctic canyon]

My understanding is that the next arc is going to continue with SNW… so your craving for DS9 content will probably not be satisfied for some time yet

[zinc zenith]

The last arc was the second SNW, right ?

[civic jay]

Need BPS 5g ship packs and ship available in the Away Mission Store.

[arctic canyon]

Correct

[wide kestrel]

since we now have holodeck building giving us access to mission we might have missed from previous arcs, can I get some credits for mission keys I got around when I was new player and had no idea how to get mission I earned the keys and would like to get the missions i missed

[hollow pike]

You may not necessarily have missed any missions. I have a bunch of those Borg Mission Keys too and didn’t miss any of the Borg missions during the Borg arc

[rare coral]

Incursions during Apex?? Come on.....

[slate orbit]

Scopely has proven they dont give a flip, if you cant get work on your stella skin tough tooties..... lol

[wind vortex]

Can we PLEASE get a fix for the missing ship XP SLB events? It happens CONSTANTLY.

[rare coral]

I've had it for months... But it's just bad timing

[soft lake]

I would like to see the ability to assign/reassign crew while a ship is in repair. This would allow for better use of the crew across multiple ships. If one is in repair then the crew is not being used and is at dock. It would also help lower level players that only have a limited crew and need more diversity for ships, as well as more time in-game.

[nova sierra]

I need to make a screen when this happen again, but I remember an unscheduled ship xp event popping up yesterday, there where 3 daily event at the same time, and it was not the first time I saw something similar, I think they somehow set the wrong recurrent date for this event

[cyan scroll]

whats the Apex event

[shell pollen]

Scopely, could we get the hostile cap (currently 2k) raised or removed for CoW? maybe a hostile limit exocomp? 😁 also could you just display it and when it resets? it currently resets 1 hr after the morning dailies reset for EU. it seems to be on a separate timer unaffected by whatever you do for daylight savings

[spare orbit]

How do you find people in your alliance who are friends?

[shell pollen]

could you elaborate and maybe ask in #🤝-help-each-other ? but... you can look at members in your alliance in a few places. Usually by going to Alliance (bottom left) and looking at the roster (clicking on the people icon with the # of members by it)

[eager pawn]

Incursions suck

[spare orbit]

👌 🆗️ I ll give that a try helpful information

[nova sierra]

Fix would be great. Iirc it happens 1 day before it is scheduled. Or one event slot, I can't remember. Really should be fixed by now

[vale wasp]

There's no official schedule for that, so it can't be "1 day before it is scheduled," the fan-made schedule is just wrong.

[dry bridge]

They don’t care about us. Everyone wants DS9 and they won’t give it to us

[nova sierra]

the scheme for the dailies is one 12h event and one 6h running at the same time, when that event starts there are 2 6h events running alongside the 12h one, so there is clearly something wrong

[vale wasp]

ADAD in 4x 6H blocks is not how it's running this time.

[pulsar lodge]

This is a strategy game correct?.... When certain packs are removed at turnover 1 day before their prescribed end date does not help me with my planning. Relay pack showed 1 more day...SNW crew packs showed they ended at turn over... Can you please put the pack back in the store??

[swift steppe]

tyvm for bringing back helps sent through alliance page👍

[molten hatch]

Eco, with The Domination BP event that went out today, 7/28 at 1PM PT, was scheduled incorrectly and that is why it was not providing rewards and pulled.
Another example of Scopely quality coding?! You need better processes.

[spiral nimbus]

I have never see a game with such crappy support 1 week no resolution

[quick marten]

Scopley please get Real on this!

[feral holly]

Still the wrong shards in that pack compared with the graphic too

[quick marten]

Where can I get the Stella Bonus Medal?

[atomic breach]

@quick marten Rogue Faction store - Stella Particles to Crystal/Gas/Ore

[formal elk]

The rss options

[quick marten]

I just hit 40. I don't understand.

[wide kestrel]

could have made overflow bigger because there is no point in me wasting my time with the pointless doomsday worms or their armadas...thank God🤣🤣

[quick marten]

Thanks! I don't have that yet, I guess I have to max the rouge rep first.

[swift steppe]

What's wrong with this picture? 😂

[wind vortex]

Happens occasionally to me in systems where the nodes switch types.

[stark lintel]

Hey @tacit obsidian I think the Incursion packs are wrong again. Can’t do anything with 1 conduit.

[grave epoch]

139.99 , let’s start with that , for a broken game 👈😫🫵

[fierce bane]

😆

[alpine elk]

@tacit obsidian what happened to the refinery update this month (July)that scopley said was happening??

[polar basin]

A quick fix would be to change from Limit 1 to Limit 10

[opaque sail]

Can we get Feesha warp components added to the Feesha refinery?

[glad cradle]

Eco said on Djz's podcast it is still being worked on. It's possible it may not happen until the next arc hits.

[velvet lichen]

What is the point of this game? You work hard in dailies to save resources only to have someone come along and hit you “a100 times” (cannot do that in any other game). If you can’t protect what you have why in the world would I “Ever!” spend money on this game. You people may know how to design a game but you are clueless on how it should be run.

[neat moss]

If you buy this, you will get a gift chest with 9 more so you have the full 10

[balmy spear]

ahem....

"Shield or share"

[velvet lichen]

No

[alpine elk]

Ta wash 👍

[stark lintel]

That’s not the point. The pack is broken so instead of sending out gifts to fix it, all I’m saying is they should fix the pack.

[craggy viper]

Yes, you need to shield

[tough orbit]

Scopely, the information content is zero since weeks. Please fix.

[spare vapor]

Hey @tacit obsidian I think STFC needs to do something to honor Nichelle Nichols passing, not talking game freebies or anything, just some kind of statement or something... sorry if this is news to those who haven't seen yet 🖖🏻

[limber pine]

On Threat from Beyond, once Kahn & Mara are maxed give us new officers or at least transporter patterns!

[fallen epoch]

They do give Transporter patterns, they just don’t show it on the events page

[limber pine]

Thank You was told they did not, but checked before and after event & you are correct!

[wind vortex]

In the typical social media rush to be first, you posted this in #💬-general-feedback by accident.

[placid grotto]

@tacit obsidian any update on the promised compensation chest for that incorrect run of Domination a few days ago?

[rocky spindle]

Do not like incursions from Monday through Friday they suck we have to work

[potent rock]

@tacit obsidian any idea why getting a lucky pull on nero on pc client would result in shards disappearing in the android app? I had about 450 / 800 shards this morning and this evening I've 191/800 on a level 4 nero which is impossible when you need 300 to go to level 4 which I did quite a while ago

[vale wasp]

If you had 450 at t3 then you'd have 150 after hitting promote to t4. Then you'd be at 150/800.

[potent rock]

It showed 450+ on pc client earlier I haven't promoted today ..but yeah had a brain fart on the promotion bit 😂 past my bedtime and a sick child is not a good combination. It was definitely just behind my gorkon which is 458

[waxen oyster]

wish you could look at the packs and other things that you buy in game for refining or the armada packs etc etc

[tacit marsh]

Looking for a guide for level 4 grade materials ?

[brazen oracle]

So how long is La'an going to be broken?

[wet trout]

Scopely I usually don't criticize the game like at all but I need to say this.

My server found out our (supposedly) opponents for incursions (server 66) have the worst packs ever. 63 packs have 3-4 time the value of a 66 pack. I've never seen a game do this but this is a literal ripoff.

Here's a comparison. A partial screenshot of an ops 43 player's from s66 ultra upgrade station pack vs an ops 44 player's ultra station upgrade pack on 63

[vale wasp]

Wow, that bottom pack is insane. Interesting that yesteryear's problems are coming back around now with incursions.

[wet trout]

Apparently its based on server economy or something like that from what a scopely dev told a 66 player. I find that stupid, people spend money, simple. I don't see why each server(s) should have different pack values.

[placid grotto]

Those problems were never fixed, server-dependent pack numbers have never been adressed
also, there is a daily event that has good rewards and an easy scoring metric that isn't available on certain servers (no logic behind it) because, reasons

For reference, those 2 events are "Limited Time Ship Event" (Scores by spending Ship xp, rewards latinum and ultras) and "Ship Upgrade Event- Heroic" (Scores by spending in G3 mats, in G4 ship parts; rewards a horrible amount of par and ore)

Weird thing is that one night about a month ago all servers got both (which is the way it needs to be and should be)

[nimble bear]

In honour of StarTrek Heroes and actors, like awesome! RIP Nichelle

[tribal bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/519470967240523786/1003374896899964928/newfeature_.jpg

[edgy harness]

Armadas: coming soon!

[sharp ocean]

Any movement on the red notifications that still proliferate the game screen?

[vale wasp]

Last mini-patch removed a bunch of them, so the movement is positive. I wouldn't expect another change until Tuesday at the earliest, and probably not til the following one.

[nova sierra]

Really?? 😂

[nova sierra]

You would rather they didn’t ask?

[nova sierra]

They dont want to know what i think...

[nova sierra]

They do, that’s kinda the point…

[tranquil dew]

Any plan to fix the ship lvl not changing while collecting xp? Not a major issue but it’s just confusing

[rustic lynx]

Did they change the prices in webstore without any info? It was 10% off compared to apple store… now sane price?!?

[tranquil dew]

Thought it was same price, but you get a bit extra in them plus the meta phasic thingys

[crude sandal]

Check the currency, it's been a bit interesting today apparently

[rustic lynx]

Same currency as usual, but instead of 90 its 100 and so on…

[hollow pike]

Prices update every so often due to exchange rates etc

[rustic lynx]

Doesnt make sense too… i pay in swiss franks and the exchange are at the moment very high… if they adjust, it should get cheaper not more expensive 😂

[tranquil dew]

Inflation so bad it’s impacting on virtual goods…

[steel escarp]

@tacit obsidian What happened to the refinery increase you promised was coming the end of last month?

[feral holly]

It'll be right after we get our ship xp, officer xp, faction tokens and lat refunded for the Domination event

[fallen epoch]

It’s being worked on. Will probably come at the start of the new arc

[balmy iris]

How about you advertise news in game once it can actually be retrieved?

[fallen epoch]

Already passed on 🖖

[steep socket]

ahhhhh my favorite news from STFC

[lapis charm]

@tacit obsidian what happened to the gift chest we were supposed to receive for that domination event that was launched and didn't count? I'm still out a bunch of officer xp from that

[fallen epoch]

It will be released at some point this week

[ancient canyon]

fixed -- relog in

[potent hedge]

Big props to Scopely for allowing us to celebrate Nichelle's life and contribution to ST in the game, while ST grieves as a community. :)

[pure nebula]

Big shout out on the Uhura Shards. For once, I can absolutely say you did a good thing

[fathom gulch]

you guys seriously INCREASED the prices in the store??? you have got to be kidding me Scopely. You have the highest prices for a mobile game I have ever seen, and you INCREASE them?!?!?

[craggy saddle]

They look exactly the same to me 🤔
Got a screenshot?
You can send me a screenshot in DM because of this slowmode 😅

[high igloo]

Building a game where restarting is a regular part of the gameplay means you have built a crappy game. Fix it

[craggy plaza]

@tacit obsidian It's been several days. A bunch of us who completed the BP event that then got pulled would like to know where this supposed gift is we were supposed to be getting. #⚡-mod-announcements message

[craggy saddle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/509686569649831936/1003727682942541948/IMG_1933.png

[mellow sand]

Hello there, anyone here from Scopely?! I have a password reset problem...

[strange folio]

Sure would like a ship parts bonus refine

[fallen epoch]

Contact CS #👽-how-to-contact-support they are your only fix for this

[mellow sand]

thx

[elder hornet]

WOW 40 parts short! Another month to pass before

[onyx wolf]

Did Scopely just increase the cost for packs in the already overpriced store?

[steep socket]

not for me in the US.. sometimes it is apple android.. conversion differences

[fathom gulch]

yes... yes they did.
On PC in Canada

[vale wasp]

The platforms can change their prices as they want, what are you using?

[onyx wolf]

Both Android on my phone when at work, at home I use PC, its the PC store i noticed went up in price, quite a lot actually

[placid grotto]

do you have a before/after screenshot?

[onyx wolf]

Uhm not before no, but it was 90euros, now its 105euros for a pack, I already spent like 3k-3,5k on this game, it's starting to hurt a bit if they increase the prices by 15euros.... 😅

[placid grotto]

canadian conversion rates are wack

[vale wasp]

All the usd stuff is same price here. Pretty sure Scopely sets prices on pc, so maybe they've increased it for some markets.

[cobalt gust]

they need to actuly charge the proper conversion rates

[strong geode]

this much pay to win makes me want to quit.

[placid grotto]

Laugh at him for buying the ugly ship

[fathom gulch]

how much does that thing cost?

[placid grotto]

At least hundereds of thousands

[wind vortex]

I mean, if you're gonna pay to win, you wanna win, don't you? Pay for 2nd place doesn't sound particularly appealing.

A hundred lat for $9! Hurry only 29 days 20 hours left! Or for the same $9 you can get packs with 600 lat AND a bunch of other stuff... 🤔

[nova basin]

hello everyone
i would like to complain about your useless dump support team. they fugged up my webstore.
they changed my location and currency and after complaining about it they changed it back but now i need to pay 11% more for each package.
scopely what joke is this?
Get your job done right!!!!

[wind vortex]

I have heard some regions have had price increases, it's probably not related to your location changes.

[nova sierra]

200% value if bought in bulk

[lucid lichen]

Game down?

[bleak wyvern]

@tacit obsidian as per your post!

#⚡-mod-announcements message

Please provide a timeline on when the red numbers will be addressed as currently any number in red in game is utterly useless and you seem to have forgotten about that commitment due to incursions! Please fix one mess before you make the next ones

[nova sierra]

They’ve been reduced already, further tweaking is expected.

[bleak wyvern]

Barely noticeable though, they need to roll back to what it was before and then actually consult with their player base as to what’s actually an improvement because they don’t know themselves as they showed with what they implemented!

[fallen epoch]

It is noticeable they now disappear when you view them

[nova sierra]

The player base pushed to get notifications on “stuff”, both sides had different interpretations. Rather than baby out with bath water they’re working back through to fine tune it.

[bleak wyvern]

So.. click on alliance button and the store and territory numbers don’t disappear - really not needed there! Away teams number back on refresh - again not needed refinery loads of red numbers now that won’t go away and again not needed! As it was was ok with a few pointless numbers like the ship button but now personally I’d rather turn them all off! They are distracting and in a bad way!

[fallen epoch]

Alliance button does disappear just not on the alliance page. The refinery buttons are needed people asked for those

[lime socket]

The number on the refinery button is how I noticed they added a bonus refinery

[crude sandal]

refinery and ATA actually work properly now 😂

[fallen epoch]

The only thing that doesn’t work is the exocomp button, although technically it does

[bleak wyvern]

And that was my point just hiding them elsewhere doesn’t stop them being annoying and irritating! They’ve gone over the top with it! Personally the red numbers did not help me spot the refinery I noticed it because I went in to refine normally! Personal opinion it is still not an improvement

[lime socket]

Just because you weren’t able to use the information provided doesn’t mean it should be taken away from everyone else

[fallen epoch]

Like was said before they tried to find a balance and it’s getting there. Is it perfect? No. Will it change? Most likely

[bleak wyvern]

Actually I’m for some of the numbers they just haven’t thought through which numbers are actually useful to the majority vs all the numbers! Also if they can’t work out a decent way to accommodate the changes then choose a reasonable subset or add an option in settings to allow players to turn them all off! These people are supposed to a community manager and dev team and they really aren’t showing skill at either

[fallen epoch]

Community managers and devs are separate teams

[lime socket]

How’d you know that they haven’t? I wouldn’t be so confident that you and you alone know what’s useful to most players.

[nova sierra]

What is useful to you may not be what’s useful to someone else. I think there’s still room for improvement but the flood of red pips has subsided a lot.

[azure epoch]

can't get on. says I can't connect to my server, and check my internet connection. My internet connection is fine.

[bleak wyvern]

True and you are quick to defend their decisions so I could throw that right back at you! By highlighting above and tagging the original post I’ve highlighted that I am one of those that does not feel it is a benefit or improvement! For the record to the other poster i referred to a community manager and a dev team I didn’t say they were the same so please keep on topic or don’t reply the point was about the (in my opinion) over use of red numbers that need to be reduced and yes I’d prefer what was before they changed than what is currently in game! If they insist on leaving it as is then I would advocate for an option to turn them off in the settings then I can at least choose when I see them! I get it some of you are fans of the numbers and see it as improvement and I respect that however I don’t see it as an improvement and I’d want an option that benefits both camps if they had looked at it properly on a test environment maybe they would have had better results @nova sierra again personal opinion but I do not see an improvement of less red numbers

[fallen epoch]

Looks like there is some issues happening to individuals across all the servers try again in an hour or 2 and let me know if you can get on 😊🖖

[nova sierra]

You could throw it back at me, but you’d have to ignore that my first comment that was further tweaking is expected. You’re the only one that’s repeatedly taken the stance that you and only you know what is “right” here 👍🏻. There are further changes expected, with the way it was received after the “large” change it seems they’re taking a far more measured and methodical approach working through it.

[bleak wyvern]

Well.. I made a statement it wasn’t improved which is my perspective you said it had been tweaked (fine with that btw) and I said again from my perspective it isn’t that noticeable! 3-4 people leapt to the defensive assuming I think I know what’s right all I’ve said is I preferred before to after it’s my opinion and I’ve voiced what I believe to be better! It really doesn’t need you all to add your opinions and tell me what’s been reduced 1 person was enough! To the others that felt the need to then post and take umbrage about my opinion think before you post as none of this extra debate was needed

[nova sierra]

You didn’t though, you asked when it would be addressed and that’s what they were answering. Granted, it didn’t need three more people to point it out but you did double down on an odd position which is likely to lead to a more forceful posture by them. Your first post absolutely was not how it wasn’t improved from your perspective though; if you do not seek confrontational responses, do not post confrontational challenges would be my suggestion. Do with it as you please.

[bleak wyvern]

Well posted my opinion and tagged the only one I believe mattered! The rest of you are entitled to your opinion and to post it but whatever talk to the 🤚 logging off now

[nova sierra]

You posted a bunch of speculation 🙈 but have a good day.

[sweet violet]

Seems prices in store on PC client was increased quite a bit lately - thats not a welcome change 👎👎

[nova basin]

lol on the same day, on sunday... really?
thats not possible.
i was talking with the support to search for a package bug, then asked me about credit card recipes and stuff which they for sure got by themselves.
then this support agent missclicked and changed my location and currency. he even said he changes it back what he did is changing currency but not location so now i pay like 110 USD for 1 package in my currency..... really is that right?

@tacit obsidian
you got a good new spirit for scopely but for what are you doing it when the support team handles customers like dogs and make everything worse then before?

[dusky yew]

The none release of rare g4 ship cloaks to faction stores is getting ridiculous. I know scoply has to make their money bur come on. Its been forever now😡

[nova sierra]

Get them from event stores, madness to spend faction credits on it anyway 👀

[dusky yew]

Not if you come by faction credits easy. Were as event stores is only way to get officers high during a ark

[mild steppe]

No point’s registering

[mossy sage]

Launching incursions on a weekday during work, after a long weekend, unannounced. Get a life Scopely.

[fallen epoch]

Unannounced? Where? You had at least a weeks notice

[noble bramble]

I have some feedback about SMS systems. ...... It's empty.

[forest junco]

My members in Server 60 have identified 3 total incursions so far by Server 85. I am told Server 85’s highest player is level 37, where our server has been in deep space for over 6 months. Points are almost nowhere to be found for Server 60. So @brittle crescent please let our people know how they can score points, and receive awards?
Cheers

[topaz bridge]

Dislike the 12hr segments

[rose nacelle]

PVP with only specific ships in specific systems is bull 💩. Lots of RSS and speedups wasted for absolutely no points.

[edgy harness]

Yep, especially when people disco in a fleet of garbage ships and suicide on your scoring ship, giving them a lot of points and you, zero.

[torpid kestrel]

Incursion is the worst event ever. I am willing to bet more than half of players do not participate. Keep points off mining hits at least, make is a reduction in point if a minor is hit. Can’t even play minimal w this event.

[rose nacelle]

If an enty kills a Sally in the designated system and scores no points, it’s bull 💩

[cerulean sandal]

Our newer players are balking at the Incursion events. I am seeing comments about. "I just want to be able to play my game in peace and not be blown up by our own people." "Why are we being raided by our friends!" Our server's whales chose to purge anyone who didn't either hide themselves or have the money to fight back. They did not pretend in regards to power as opposed to f2p/dolphins. We've explained it for weeks but many players don't get it or they don't care. They are dropping. This is the second Incursion event and the number of players who are not returning is increasing. I think a lot of them weren't prepared for the disruption to the existing culture on the server. For a lot of them, it's the first time they've seen PvP by higher level players who before simply ignored them or complied with an ROE. They are feeling helpless and victimized. Older players say, "I come here to relax and play my game. Not be blown up every time I try to do anything." I know it was meant to be a PVP game but not all servers have developed that kind of culture. For some, literally being forced to take 24 hours away from the game was all it took for them to let the game go. I feel that was a huge mistake on a part of Scopely. This game depends on it's highly addictive profile. It's whole shielding and daily events mechanism is meant to keep players engaged every day. Being forced not to play for 24 hours is giving players both a good reason and a chance to start doing something else which has monumental impacts on attrition. It looks like in this second event we're not seeing as many stations move which tells me those people are not playing anymore? I think it may impact our score. Couldn't they resolve this entire thing by setting up servers strictly for incursion events where interested players all move to that server to do this? That way it happens on a server where everyone who's there wants to participate.

[rose nacelle]

And they closed down #incursions-feedback cause they don’t want to get utterly dragged again like the last time they opened this sewer pipe.

[forest junco]

Why is the #1001233195834032230 channel shut down? It’s clear everyone on this channel is providing real time feedback about the Incursion Event.

[feral holly]

It's always a sign of a good event when the Slow Mode kicks in

[fallen epoch]

It was shut when the last run ended. Let me ask to get it opened again

[cerulean sandal]

In that case, they're making another huge mistake. The biggest spenders in our alliance is this gentleman who lives in a retirement home. He likes to run armadas, fly around with his huge ships, and grow his station. I've been talking to him for years and he still doesn't know how to PVP crew his ships. I think his sole reason to be in the game is to have some company. I'm one of the spenders myself and I feel the same way. I enjoy the company and prefer organic growth so I tend to pay more for events as opposed to packs. They don't fully understand the breadth of their audience due to the genre. The majority of my 75+ alliance that has been in existence in one form or another since 2019 are people over the age of 50. This is not all about teenage angst.

[forest junco]

Cheers mate for your efforts.

[fallen epoch]

I’ve asked not sure who’s actually on rn to open it but hopefully might be open soon

[fallen epoch]

All done now 🖖

[wraith saddle]

It's not even fun for people who don't mind PVP. For example, our PVP systems are completely full of people from my server and have absolutely no one from the other server there. I don't mind PVP events especially when you set it up so that we can get points for losses. But you can't exactly do your solo milestones if there is no one from the other server there to hit. I agree with some of what is said above that this will just chase off players that don't want to PVP. And it really isn't fun for the players who are willing to do the PvP either.

[forest junco]

#1001233195834032230 channel is now open. Thank you

[raven raven]

And yet you gotta remember theres peole that like the other side or even both sides of the coin. PvE and PvP... Got to cater to all. Can't just focus on one player genre.

[last nest]

you can if you made the game progression fun

when it takes you 2 years to max 1 ship you kinda get used to non pvp

whales always winning SLB with money doesnt help

[tribal cloud]

There are simple ways to fix this, it remains to be seen if they care enough, before they kill off enough of their playerbase to do so.

[cerulean sandal]

@raven raven I'm hardly forgetting them. There's no reason they could not have created servers meant solely for mass Incursion style events and allowed multiple server's to use their conduits to go there rather than this server vs server style. What they're doing is forcing PVP down players' throats for the Amex crowd. They know it and many of that crowd are openly declaring it as they're purge their own. More of our own are hitting our own than those being hit by the enemy.

[raven raven]

Why does everyone say forcing. There is an opt out option.. Level 19 and below and shield:-) Nothing is forced

[last nest]

The reason people dont want a server that is purely focused on PVP is because the "People Excited for PVP" know they wouldnt win anything they know they would lose to the mega whales in the game.

[nova sierra]

Opt in>opt out. Like every other game does it... lol

[tribal cloud]

How is this different from the situation right now?

[cerulean sandal]

@raven raven for 24 hours any player that does not want to participate in this must stop all their daily routines, move out of their territories, leave their friends, and go hide or their shields will be disabled. Then if they try to do anything with their daily events, our own whales will destroy them for daring to go out at all. That's forcing.

[nova sierra]

Don't forget. It's summertime and people are on vacation... so how do you get service in the bush to move for an event you don't want to participate in?

[last nest]

Its Slightly Different due:

1. IF there was a server focused on PVP many of them would end up not winning and complain they don't have little targets to hit
2. If the PVP Banding was the same, as horrible as it is they would cry about it (like they claim PVE cries about)
3. Right now people can just not play which are making the "PVP enjoyers" cry that they have no targets
4. They would get beat so its not as fun
5. they only hit down as it is currently. They know the Max level for the bracket and can just focus on staying at that level for their enjoyment.

[ionic niche]

Where do we file for compensation for not being able to play for two days because of Incursions?

[meager reef]

I thought I had read where incursions was supposed to be where servers were matched based upon age and power. Where is the comparison between 60 and 85 close enough to warrant our matching? Highest lvl of active player is 36, most levels seen invading 85 are in their mid to upper 40s with a few lvl 55s camped out. This is setting 85 up for failure before the event even started and some are stating in discord they believe that was planned intentionally. At least with 84 and 85 matched up some of our server players stood a chance.

[true zealot]

It's dead.. too many folks raiding. U could get stuff done. Just expect to get hit...or not.

[devout blaze]

They don't care. Don't fool yourself thinking otherwise.

[tribal cloud]

I'm not - it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion at this point.

[last jacinth]

They won't start to really care until the whales start walking away

[tribal cloud]

Well, that'll be a consequence of when there's no more krill to feed on.

[last jacinth]

umm... no. Suing people isn't the answer to everything. As a consumer, you have every right to take your business elsewhere. They make a bad business decision, their bottom line gets hurt. You'll get laughed at by any judge you bring that suit in front of. You don't like Walmart's choices, you go to HEB, you don't sue Walmart, because you couldn't shop for 2 days.

[cerulean sandal]

@ionic niche you'd have a better chance if you went after all the "isms" these visiting players are throwing out. My mother would be washing my mouth out with soap for days, if I ever said some of those things.

[somber jackal]

This incursions crap is going to kill this game- we have so many players upset about it, upset about players not participating- not being able to just play their game- with does this event have to do with Star Trek? Roddenberry is rolling over in his grave- END THIS GARBAGE NOW

[grave epoch]

Another winning incursion guys, lvl 42 f2p here, took in 50 billion in rss today and had a blast. Shout out to s20, lol u guys are poor now 😂😂🍺 txs much.

[short grove]

Where has the multiphasic store tab gone?

[raven raven]

Incursions is only 1 day.

[craggy saddle]

It probably disappeared because you got exactly 0 multiphasic credits.

[ivory locust]

I finally got the point of server PVP events. You don't want to look after so many servers anymore. This is how you try to get rid of players. In order to be able to connect servers together again. Smart keep it up.....

[strong tulip]

Incursions are a terrible waste of time. This is a joke. It’s an event to benefit the whales and for scopely to reward those that spend heavily. For the rest of us it’s just another kick in the nuts. Half my alliance is talking about quitting the game. Great job Scopely!

[devout quiver]

Hey scoply maybe idk....display the entire number of the points because either its missing a 0 or we are winning and the bar is bugged

[flint elm]

Would it be possible to have an export option added to the Results tables of Alliance Leaderboards. Specifically the “MyAllianceMembers” table.
This would be useful to keep an eye on the players who log in everyday, but don’t really contribute. It is a next step from the ‘last logged on’ feature which was very helpful when added.

[nova sierra]

100% support this, tracking event participation is tedious.

[sick prism]

Use. The. Ingame. Chat. Channels.

🤪

[trail garnet]

So did not log in to do my dailies last night for the first time in 3 years. How many people are like me? Is that in scopely's best interest?

[wraith saddle]

Novel idea, wonder why we didn't think of that. And chat with people and desperately try to find someone to PVP with. Oh wait we did

[fickle plank]

Is anyone else having the problem that whole messages get censored in the in-game chat?

[worthy lagoon]

@tacit obsidian .. so entire comments are getting censored now instead of just the one word? Why? I mean, really.. who's complaining? All I was trying to say is.. "Yea I've heard the new SNW officers are pretty badass". I even changed a letter to circumvent the censor, but apparently you all updated your code to catch that.

[flint elm]

I think it’s a bug.

[edgy harness]

Coordinates get censored, bases systems, yeah, kind of game breaking for good communication.

[worthy lagoon]

OH MY GOD! FIX THIS PLEASE!

First one: "originally 'awesome' was 'basass'"
Second one: "oh ffs, man!"
Third: "what the hell!"
Fourth: "f f s"

[remote ingot]

What the heck happened to censor code. Entire messages are being erased

[tall blade]

The letter f on its own also causes a whole message to get censored

[worthy lagoon]

"voicechat" failed for me. "chat" worked. "ch at" worked. letter "f" worked.

[vale sierra]

We can’t post any coordinates, it’s automatically censored

[brave crane]

Brilliant, just in time for incursions on the EU servers...genius😣

[flint elm]

Shoot everything. Do you really need coms?

[humble grove]

Not everyone has to be antisocial

[worthy lagoon]

Try clearing your localization, folks. I did that, then force stopped and cleared cache. Then everything started working again.

[manic slate]

Haven't been on at all this week except to collect the Uhura shards.May she rest in peace.

[short field]

STFC REALLY needs to put the "link this email to your account" button in a different spot, or add an "are you sure" button

Third time I've locked myself out of one account. Obviously I'm not learning my lesson, but having the yes/no in the exact same spot as the switch buttons is just......poor thinking on their part.

[steel escarp]

What happened to the Apex Spy event that usually runs on the first day of Apex?

[fallow forum]

Ok. We’ve got three servers in our galaxy power board now. These glitches just pile up and get more complicated when they don’t get fixed.

[thorn cosmos]

so he is in the bracket to destroy my ship, but i dont get points? at least give points so its not a total loss getting smacked around by a player so far out of my league 🤦‍♂️

[edgy harness]

Nope, he was outside your bracket on ops, and his ship wasn’t a scoring ship. Just a guy grabbing any damage and kill points he could for other events. Yoruba on our incursion would regularly get swept by 53s, for example.

[late marsh]

I know that this has been covered a lot. But it sure seems like there needs to be better pvp balance, the difference in levels and ships shouldn't be so grotesque. I also think there needs to be better overlap so that tier X epic ships match up better with tier X+1 uncommon (more 50 epic vs a 53 uncommon, than the 34 epic vs 42 uncommon match). I know the bigger players love stomping the lower levels and this encourages spending on there part - but the overall game would sure benefit from a lot more balance less outright stomping (bigger players should still have an advantage just not so lopsided)

[fallen parcel]

The biggest mistake is making PvP brackets ops-based.

Really, they should be based on ship power +/- some percentage, say 10 or 20%. Make it more about research and crewing rather than simply crushing your opponent.

[stiff kestrel]

@tacit obsidian if Scopely are going to persist in these pathetic Incursion events, then we need to option to have players removed from our server

We have a troll who is allowing himself to be raided by the opposing server so that they out-score us
If our ability to win events relies on everyone on the server pulling together, we should have the right to kick out players who are either not pulling their weight or deliberately working against our best interests, same way an alliance can kick out players that arent doing their part

[south bear]

We're participating in an incursion event right now.

124 vs 116. And the power difference is laughable.
They're not even 6 months old.
Meaning, they can't have the ships required for us to complete the events.

It's a joke.

Server 116 is capped at lvl39.
We have many 40+.

We've been scouring the galaxy for players and found very few over lvl 21.

It's unbelievable how bad this event is

[pseudo wadi]

The game glitches need be fixed before anything new is added.

[signal willow]

Something that should be considered is after incursion finishes you should be able to look at all battle logs not just you server

[nova sierra]

What kind of deranged idiot thinks that this is even remotely balanced? I get that you want to please the cash cows but given them the ability to slam players that can't match their bank balance is just pathetic cowing to the money bags

[edgy harness]

They’ve long since proven they don’t care. Spend more or gtfo seems to be part of the game motto.

[karmic flower]

commas must be too expensive over at Scopely.... not here though,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[devout quiver]

XD

[sullen matrix]

i honestly think that server 181 tried to flood their low level systems with fresh accounts to block systems, there are literally hundreds of new accounts

[forest ice]

So having open systems to do defence and offense events sucks. No one goes there. The whole point of this event is we're invading and being invading. Forcing us into a "safe space" doesn't work. All you are doing is artificially increasing the difficulty of some events to the point they are impossible most players. This is essentially war between two servers. I should be scoring for everything i fight. Whoever thought of open systems should be fired.

[sullen matrix]

sad part is, letting yourself get killed in a disco is the most effective way to complete it

[forest ice]

thanks for the idea

[west knot]

Actually no... Letting yourself being killed in a low tier meridian with vemet is the most effective, cost wise.
As all "PvP"events created by SCOPELY this one is /start_irony awesome /end_irony.

[forest ice]

whales ruined it. 135 deserve a server wide ban for their actions.

[fallen epoch]

Can you stop spamming this. Nothing is going to happen 🤷‍♂️

[forest ice]

i was done. 3 comments is not spam. sheesh.

[fallen epoch]

If it’s the same thing over multiple channels. Then it’s spam. 135 isn’t getting some ban or whatever because you guys can’t work as a team 🤷‍♂️

[forest ice]

2 comments about a server. still not spam

[white plaza]

Can Someone tell me about this what it's for?????????? got this today

[forest ice]

Let me try to make this into something Scopely could use for the next Infinite Incursion or as reason to scrap it. My time in 135, which is the first incursion event i have actively participated in, has spoiled my experience of the Infinite Incursion event, because they were not participating. I tried to do All Out Offense which means I have to go 2 systems. Ajilon and Narendra. All I saw was players from my server waiting and finding nothing to fight. On the rare occasion I fought someone, it was a high level player, or a Whale who didn't use one of the required ships. The problem with this is that you've just created easy targets for overall points to win the event. Or you could just troll players from the other server. This isn't fun. It makes it difficult for players like me to score point.

I was expecting all out warfare going over into another server. not all out boredom. I'll leave it at that

[waxen kite]

the "specific" system requirement in these kind of events is horrible.... and its getting worse as you progress tru higher OPs, i need to beg people to come to finish my SMS or else those are dead systems where nobody wants to do pvp , PLESE for next pvp event remove that horrific mechanic that you are pushing in every pvp event .

[flint elm]

Base spamming should not count towards pvp SLB

[west knot]

Server is most likely NOT dead... Incursion event is dead and people don't want to do it. The fact that SCOPELY uses the number of players "invading" the other server to announce its success it laughable at best. Most people jump, do the SMS (with miners) cause they need the mats (cause refinery do rates are awful) and go back to do the other SMS.
PvP is done through begging for another player to help completing the offense/defense SMS.
Then you have the dead base hits or the 2hrs long raids.

Alas, success is in the eye of the beholder (?), in which case, well done SCOPELY, congrats 🎉🎊👏

[forest ice]

In my experience. Our server is organized to the point there are no easy targets when the event starts. and anyone not interested in encouraged to move to a system under lvl 19 and shield up. And with someone from the other server i spoke to, they weren't trying because they didn't care.

[west knot]

Like i said, the other server isn't dead, they just don't care.
I did the 4 SMS and am placed at 80 in raiding SLB

To accomplish that i had to send repair and resend ships to Yoruba, a super exciting task and very fulfilling PvP (not). While i was doing that my alliance managed to find an unshielded base. Raiding is also boring but, cause i was already online for another boring task...
And that's it, incursion. Super fun

So forgive me if I'm not surprised a whole server decided it isn't worth it.

Also, to the ones complaining about "cheating" servers and players "not pulling their weight", have you checked what you get if your server wins the event? Does it really matter? Is it really worth being angry? I find discord during the event more entertaining than the event itself

[trail garnet]

We ever gonna fix ANYTHING?

Alliance power mixed with other servers. Now player power mixed with other server.

La'an not fixed yet. Refuse to refund purchases based on La'an unlock but also refuse to fix. Bunch of excuses and no solutions.

Those are all "new" and not being addressed. Let alone the myriad of old issues still not fixed.

With what we are expected to PAY we have the right to expect the game to WORK.

Absolutely ridiculous.

[karmic flower]

Looking at the March Roadmap, we have everything except Alliance Star Bases. Any clue on when we could expect an update?

https://www.startrekfleetcommand.com/2022/03/28/roadmap-update-march-2022/

[neon lava]

Would that be part of the DS9 ARC????

[craggy saddle]

It literally states it in your picture

[crude sandal]

Except I've seen people with a lv40 factory that doesn't need it 😐

[lime socket]

Maybe they removed the requirement? According to stfc.space level 52 needs an “advanced key 2” though

[fallow ether]

I'd rather have the promised (but undelivered) refinery improvements over alliance star bases which sounds more like another big feature that will just be horribly broken or underwhelming anyway... how hard is it to change the loot table percentages for the refinery? No reason this should have been another broken promise.

[west knot]

It's really hard to do that because it will probably hit SCOPELYs income... So yeah, really hard

[small silo]

Server 77 bad lag

[stable timber]

The requirement was indeed removed

[weak dagger]

this thing keep happening
https://streamable.com/y1i5v6

[vale wasp]

Try the repair option in the launcher first. If that fails, then uninstall the game, delete the game folder, and reinstall the game.

[median vale]

Please increase the spawning rates for exchange armadas!!!!

[hot tendon]

I tried shooting a dead base a few times before I gave up disgusted, no game is worth that never mind a couple of materials when I need 10s of thousands anyway (another terribly bad design)

[midnight musk]

Why did the store change how to buy stuff

I have been trying to buy stuff from the store and I keep getting error messages and I am not able to make my purchases. I know the money is there on the credit card and they have no problem on thier end so it is a game glitch.

[fallen epoch]

I will pass this on 🖖

[slender lintel]

I just bought and completed the mission arc for "Outlaws" which requires Associate with Augments and costs a whopping 20k credits.
TL/DR for the level and cost, the rewards are utterly terrible.

It's just really disappointing. The Augments missions had some really good, tangible rewards. For spending 20k to get absolutely worthless set of wasted time mission just feels bad.
Getting augments high enough and get enough credits, be able to take on 350k enemies and having to donate large amounts of RSS during the mission arc, you would expect some great rewards.
The last reward for the whole Arc was 35 aug credits (remember you spent 20k buying the arc...) and 250k tritanium. The mission before that, I had the choice between 35 augment credits or 8 Lat and a reloc token.... EIGHT... you can get more lat in a random box from l30 hostiles.
I am Ops 25, have millions in RSS for each, as most do at this level. You have to be a certain level to be able to get to this arc and complete it. The rewards seem to be tuned for level 5 at best.

[polar basin]

Not many know about this, so dont spread the word. There is a hidden feature that lets you block any whale. So a whale blocker. It is the the lower right corner. When you click on it, it lets you block whales for hours or even days - very cool. But please dont tell this to anyone

[sacred garden]

This is bs, I should be able to get this as long as I have the required materials and not be screwed since I can not get this again due to the stupid time limit. You going to put time limits on things like this then don’t put another one for on when one can get it again. That is total bs since players should have the right to get what they want and really need not what you want them to do.

[placid grotto]

You'll eat your parsteel and you'll like it! :P

[manic yarrow]

So our chat filter broke today, and it was a great time in GC and AC. It really invigorated chat, no joke.

[nova latch]

Maybe the link marked "contact support should link tio upport and not scrabble

[vale wasp]

Can you scroll the window or is it locked onto Scrabble?

[nova latch]

Scrabble shouldn't evebn be on a help website

[vale wasp]

So scrolling worked then?

[regal turret]

Shields are not working!!!!

[nova latch]

I have info that might have legalb implications for the game makers . Last thing i wanrt is rubbish abouyt scrabble

[vale wasp]

I'd try the email option in #👽-how-to-contact-support , it's what I usually use when I want to contact CS.

[topaz bridge]

When do we get to meet General Feedback? I've already met Captain Suggestions and Major Bug Reporting...

[nova sierra]

thanks to support for quick and uncomplicated response and help.... needs to be said.

[blazing summit]

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Fix this 💩

[wintry relic]

I got that issue as well. Hope this link directly to the STFC support helps you https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/

[fallen epoch]

How so?

[regal turret]

They kept dropping within a hour!

[fallen epoch]

Are you in an incursion event?
If yes did you move your station?
If no did you log off straight after applying the shield?

[dark otter]

Bud I have a 200m baseband that ship would do the same to mine. That said it has always been the case (shield or share)
Is it right that my ent can smash a 40m base.
What's not right is taking their ability to defend their alliance away because that's what would happen. this may be an issue but it should not be reduced those who pay and those who don't.

[small silo]

Anyone else having issues with mission information not loading correctly?

[regal turret]

No to all

[gloomy vale]

@tacit obsidian Nothing received 15 hours after announcing- bp event was fully accomplished

[fallen epoch]

Any mission in specific?

[small silo]

@fallen epoch when I click any mission and then I click locate the boss and the game just hangs...playing on PC. The mission specifically is In Sheep's Clothing

This is what I see when clicking on a mission

[fallen epoch]

Try repairing on the launcher might fix it

[small silo]

I'll give that a shot, thank you. Anyone else seeing this or are the drugs kicking in...

[nova sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/drugs-are-bad-drugs-mkay-south-park-gif-4499796

[bitter shell]

With two incursions behind us ,,,our alliance power stats now consists of two additional servors on there for a total 3 ,,,how soon will this be cleared up on servor 15

[trail garnet]

Crappy event. Constant errors. Break two things for every one new thing they bring out.

Does scopely want us all to quit?

[frozen frigate]

I wanted to say thank you I appreciate the light event today as it could be completed in 1 minute. Haven't had a day where Dailies, and Events are done in less than 20 minutes. I now can do whatever I want in game.

[thorn cosmos]

Is this ever going to be usable, i would love to be able to send mail to the whole alliance. To organize alliance wide events, etc.

[sacred garden]

This is bs . I can upgrade this tech now at lvl 35 yet I can’t refine the materials needed until I’m higher lvl. That is total bs scopley forcing people to lvl faster just so you can force them to spend real money on this game. Y’all are a bunch of crooks!!

[fallen epoch]

Scrap an ops 26 ship

[sacred garden]

News flash scopley you’ll make far more money dropping your prices to reasonable prices of $5-$20 then you will always charging $100 for everything.. the average gamer generally only spends a few hundred a year. Some will spend a few thousand a year , but most those are also buying a console or a pc.

[sacred garden]

Ya completely missed the point , besides you can mine 4star in tc and even steal it from those opc

[fallen epoch]

Not really. At Ops 35 you can’t even buy a pack for great research

[half acorn]

We are looking at ways to get our alliance members more engaged in the game. Our thought is we could run internal alliance events using player profile data to check progress and determine who achieved the goal. Those that hit the target mark will have their names in to a drawing for a game play gift card. Right now it is too hard to put out 60 to 70 players stats. We would like leadership, much like who’s online, to be able to pull out the information provided in the player profile in to a spreadsheet to see progress.

[nova sierra]

Because you've pushed your rep levels beyond your ops level 🤦‍♂️

[golden spade]

the 1 rare armada directive is really a slap in the face. this is a single pull g4 uncommon armada "chest." i mean this is a joke, right? i've gotten this several times now at ops 41. this ss is from ops 42, and i can't wait what other wonders await me there. 150k each so how many unc armadas did i have to do to get this?

[indigo sentinel]

Relax. Nobody is forcing you to spend money. It’s a video game. Nothing here is important. If you feel forced to do anything, turn the game off and go for a walk in the woods for some perspective.

[limpid bluff]

best game ever one trillion out of seven verdy fgood

[undone peak]

boering couple of days I hope there is more than 1 event today

[trail garnet]

Borg war funds store?

[fallen epoch]

It’s been escalated

[nova sierra]

It may be possible that they didn't want to have it run at the same time of the apex one?

[tribal bane]

I just did a 6 chest rare pull and got 35 epic dirs!!! And 10 epic ship bps mind you I have enough epic ship bps to build 3 of each. Whomever nerfed the chest payouts should be hung by their thumbs. It’s not like we don’t work to get these and even if I buy them the payouts should be usable

[tame dove]

Grinding the Outlaw tree, and Stella scrapping is one of the worst grinds I have ever had the misfortune to engage with as a gamer.
It's just an endless grind, the Outlaw tree gives respectable payout but only after a massive investment of time and energy, and due to the way that Outlaw works you can't really work on it while doing other things. The Stella is worthless for anything but building up that research, and every aspect of it's use plays into building up that tree. But because of the way that scrapping the ship works you are constantly working at a deficit trying to upgrade it. Even getting two or three is just a band-aid solution, you still have to farm the uranium to upgrade them. Overall the entire experience with the Stella is just an unenjoyable slog. Other aspects of this game that take forever-and-a-half have a payout that can be felt. Frank to Frank-A gives much better resource payouts, and faster swarm dailies; Dvor to Dvor-A gives better Lat, and faster c-lat mining...Scrapping a Stella over and over just gives minute research bonuses that add up over time but take a good 6 months+ of grinding to be noticeable and even then you need to focus the research you are doing in the Outlaw tree toward efficiency, base defense, or towards the Stella itself. It makes the grind feel terrible to engage with plain and simple.
Grinding the Outlaw tree and the Stella scrapping required to do it is a blight on this game, and should be looked at for Quality of Life Improvements.
Rant complete. 🖖

[sacred garden]

Holodeck, it’s weird having this building as a non upgradable building since every other building can be upgraded, totally missed potential here

[golden spade]

And let's not even bring up the fact I can't upgrade the ACC past 39 because those rare parts never show up either. ACC goes from the first thing I upgrade when leveling ops to several levels behind

[tribal bane]

Oh yeah they nerfed the output of rare cores from G4 epic chests as well 🤦‍♀️

[fringe drum]

Rare tactical cores are g4 rare which btw very poor output oh wait i forgot $$

If there was balance in this game free to play verus dollars . Would be nice . Free means grind but should not be impossible

[novel dove]

Vemet just does garbage shield damage, burn is what youre really after

[glass cove]

@ devs I write this not to shame or to be self important. I have quit the game, this is 100% due to incursions. Thank you

[craggy saddle]

You pinged a random person just saying

[glass cove]

oops sorry Dev....

[somber pecan]

Yes let pay someone to play 😂😂😂.. either you play or don’t play!!!!

[half acorn]

I wish I could give them extra BPs or something else as a rewards, but that isn’t how scopely set up the game.

[somber pecan]

Again you say wish I could Give…. Give what they play or don’t play

Only thing scopley gives us is a sore assss.. because they don’t give an lube…..

[half acorn]

I agree, and I don’t always have all the answers.

[paper sluice]

hey only 199 pulls to go. maybe less when RNG likes you 😂

[jaunty trellis]

Is there anyone on that can reset my account? the customer support is too stupid and wasn't able or willing to do it for over a week now.

[fallen epoch]

Request account deletion. CS are only ones to do it

[trail garnet]

Really tired of not being able to see my personal power or alliance power ranking in my own server. If you can't bring put new content without screwing up existing features then don't bring out new content.

[abstract wedge]

We need more armada events. Let's combine the tedious nature of armadas with mining. Please create mining armadas. We send fleets of miners to mine super nodes over many hours. Oh and make directives terrible to source and rewards even less than mining Mondays. It'll be a fan favorite in no time at all.

[nova sierra]

I recommend just skipping the UC/Rare pulls, and doing the epic pulls at 45+ for the rare ship BPs

[devout blaze]

Here is a thought, instead of stupid events like incursions, how about you make sourcing possible for things like the USS Terror skin.

[trail garnet]

Not sure scopely gets sarcasm.

[humble wharf]

@eco please send out an announcement with an update for the merger time line. Was announced weeks ago for eu-124... we find ourselves in limbo ever since.

[wind vortex]

Hey Scopely, you know that replacing the word for fatal self-harm with asterisks makes it look like I'm f-ing a miner instead, right?

[hollow pike]

Could also mean you are piping or Waltering a miner. You just have a dirty mind 😆

[nova sierra]

They’re in the G4 rare and G4 epic loot chests. And guaranteed afaik.

[golden spade]

Yes, I do have a handful, thanks. But I have already upgraded nearly all buildings before 42 and ACC is still 39 and not going to be ready to upgrade until many many months, by then ops would still have gone up. it's not an ops-gate, it's a time-gate on an important building that helps everyone in the armada.

[marble radish]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-cain-not-funny-not-amused-no-nope-gif-15330262 We have exactly the same problem on 112 😡 No-one has a clue where we stand on OUR server (Alliance Leader Board or Player Leader Board) This needs to be fixed ASAP.. it's hard enough to recruit as it is !!!!!!

[nova sierra]

Does absolutely nothing for anyone in the armada. The damage buff between Lv29 and Lv54 is miniscule.

[bitter shell]

@marble radish ???

[marble radish]

Discord playing up.. it posted now !! 😉

[inner drift]

Well, I just triggered a Mining Exocomp and it didnt do squat! It was the 50% mining for 3hrs. I am mining ISO and no change. If it wont work on a material, then it should say so, so you dont waste the exo!! Come on Scopley! You rob us enough without cheating!

[nova sierra]

It will have done something, but if you’re mining iso with a Meridian the benefit is miniscule in comparison to your ship’s ability on Isogen. You also need to dock your ship for the exocomp to affect it.

[polar basin]

Meridian with PvP crew is the best approach

[violet bear]

mi dovete spigare sono nuovo grazie in anticipo ..in italiano se è possibile

[fallen epoch]

Cosa ti serve spiegato?

[violet bear]

come si gioca x cominciare . e se è possibile lingua in italiano

[inner drift]

Yes was docked before I went to mine and activated the exo. Before exo and after was 1 sec different! If that is the help then it is bogus help. Scopley pulling the wool kinda of cr@p. Just sad really!

[nova sierra]

Lemme guess, low rent exo against a T9 meridian and you’ve got Makkinen or Airiam on the go? These things are part of the law of diminishing returns. Throw a 75% mining speed boost next to a 4300% ship ability on an 850% mining speed, with a 95% iso mining research speed boost, you get the idea as to how trivial the exocomp is.

[inner drift]

So

[wide marsh]

The way the math works out, exocomps just aren't enough of a boost to matter most of the time. The difference between a 5205% boost and a 5280% boost is trivial (sorry if I'm a bit off, I tried to add 4300+850+95 in my head)

[nova sierra]

Exceptions; G4+ officer stats exos, mats mining exos when boosting ships against their abilities, G3+ armada exos. And no worries, throw some crew abilities in there too to further dilute the boost.

[fallen epoch]

G4 armada exos not G3 ones
G3 dont work that well they are diluted

[inner drift]

so when you post negative, the screen ya. nice!

[nova sierra]

Who being screened? The problem is the further you get into the game the more your research makes the exocomps bonuses trivial.

[wide marsh]

Yeah. I find Exos very disappointing. The boost isn't high enough to be noticeable in most situations (yes yes, list of exceptions), but they are meant to be a short term boost that lets you accomplish things you might not be able to otherwise. If exos worked on the post-research/ship/etc rate instead of the base rate, it would be more in-line with my expectations for a short-term boost.

@inner drift It depends on what you posted. You can be quite negative while remaining polite. I still maintain that Scopely devs should be nervous about how working at Scopely looks on their resume given the reputation the company has managed to create for itself.

[fallen epoch]

wrong tag 😬

[crude sandal]

When you use filterable words, it screens you, you mean? 😄 You can say "This is a very bad thing", but you cannot say "This is a very 💩 thing" 🙂

[wild plinth]

Why is it for the Borg Armada Attack SMS, you get paid more in points per directive for doing Uncommons vs Rares/epics? Considering how bad the loot is and how hard it is to get directives, it's actually a disincentive to do anything other than uncommon armadas to complete the event.

[trail garnet]

So the one armada event where there was enough armadas now there is not. Why did scopley throttle the mega borg armada spawning? @tacit obsidian

[placid pendant]

What do you do when you have a player who admits to using 3rd party tools and Scopley ignore multiple tickets from half the server? He has infinite Tetryons, uses scripts and tools to copy and past data from one account to another on VM’s.

[inner drift]

Wont let me comment on thread now

[fallen epoch]

Messaging on threads is disabled I think

[civic totem]

Nice to see that there is no message to let us know if there is going to be maintenance tomorrow.

[polar basin]

Will next arc finally bring me my Epic Sponge Bob Officer?

[wind vortex]

Whoooooooo lives in an Enterprise under the sea? Cap Tain Square Pants!

[cinder citrus]

Well next arc finally be an older series, like Voyager for example

[tranquil ermine]

Tomorrows are is snw part 3. After that rumor is ds9 but only hinted at and not confirmed by scopely aside from hints.

[livid stone]

It was more or less confirmed by a Scopely VP at a panel at Comic Con

[dense timber]

Infinitus Refit Shard (skin). I wasted points buying a shard. But a higher level member says now that he can almost get it he Doesn't Need it. Why make something to hard to get. Not wasting any more "Borg War Funds" on worthless Junk!

[vale wasp]

It'll be useful to fill up your cargo faster so always useful for those who want to save time

[silent bronze]

Lvl 39 player here just got hit by a lvl60 player, why is it possible for lvl 60 to reach back 21 lvls? If I was able to do that I would be able to hit lvl 18 players!

[cinder citrus]

Scopely logic for you xD

[golden spade]

are you one of the 53s that splashed on my base during incursions? if so, thanks for your sacrifice! lol jk thanks for the feedback, i do appreciate it. game is frustrating sometimes and it's good to hear from other players experiences

[gritty stirrup]

Great job 👏

[woeful nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-steward-clapping-slow-clap-accepted-gif-4682275

[nova sierra]

Seems they can't tell time either...

[nocturne steeple]

At this point they should just release the patch nodes the damage is done

[hollow pike]

Except Eco is probably in bed asleep right now

[waxen kite]

seriously fire your entire development squad coz i dont know to cry or laugh .

[nova sierra]

You know that’s not from STFC, right?

[waxen kite]

@nova sierra honestly i don't know what to expect anymore from stfc so i wouldn't be surprised if this is the new ship .

[nova sierra]

So, Scopely should sack their entire development squad because you googled something someone else posted and you decided it must be the thing? Genius.

[vale wasp]

RSI is painted on the sides, that's star citizen

[waxen kite]

if there will be no similarities ill eat my left sock , but lets see

[vale wasp]

Ok, but it's pretty easy to search for RSI Mantis and get that exact pic

[nova sierra]

3 reskin of new officers that works almost only on battleship? i'm confused

[lime socket]

Yeah bit weird but they look pretty good at first glance

[hexed brook]

Yay another resources to collect is what we all really want, said no one, to anyone, ever

[manic tendon]

@tacit obsidian so where is this promised improved refinery output ?

[glad cradle]

I think he’s on the West Coast; won’t be awake yet.

[manic tendon]

They did not, they said coming month, singular, I even went and checked.

[glad cradle]

@gleaming bear It was originally scheduled for the end of July.

[pliant latch]

it will only get worse now that they will have buff from generators…woot woot

[hollow narwhal]

So... All the Dev team has done for this new ship and systems is 'Copy Borg systems and ship - Paste code and Rename to Actian Brood, ect'...🤦

[nova sierra]

so the new systems will require a special resource to go like the transwarp cells? and we will get yet another chest to open daily? please stop, this is so annoying

[mossy leaf]

How on earth do you make a set of hostile grinding officers and end the arc without one for surveys? How on earth does it seem like a good idea to make multiple versions of some SNW officers — and skip others like M’benga and Chapel entirely? Why would you make pvp officers who are only useful on one type of ship without counterparts for other types? And where is there anything for F2P/lower levels here?
Hasn’t even started and I’m over it. Way to go Scopely for taking the best Trek to hit tv in years and turning it into 💩 in the game.

[nova sierra]

From the ship article (https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/faq/6880-mantis/)

1. Ancient Beacon
2. Actian Venom
3. Synthetic Nitrium
4. Synthetic Ion
5. Condensed Venom
   (at least) 5 new things to collect for a single ship/loop

[fiery trench]

So scopely promised to reduce the daily time consumption - just to, again, add to it - clear statement of how little they think of their player base

[marble radish]

SERIOUSLY !!!!!! Scopely just couldn,t get things MORE WRONG.... An UPDATE in the middle of an EVENT ???? ((( PATHETIC ))) 😡

[hexed brook]

Do we get an event store? I need more feesha parts 👀

[celest cipher]

Scopely, do you realize that standard day on Earth has ONLY 24h? And we have to work, spend time with family, sleep, eat, etc… You should be making game more playable, not adding even more things

[marble radish]

Can you not update the game in the early hours of the morning when most sane people are asleep ?????? 🤔 😩

[velvet lotus]

It’s currently overnight in the US, which I guess has around a 50% user population in the game. So they are catering to a decent amount of the player base by doing the maintenance at this time.

[lament scroll]

If you are playing this game you already are asleep

[lost slate]

Development is split between US and Europe so you do it when Europe Dev is working. Long ago Former CM Panic explained the situation to us.

[marble radish]

Shame they can't multi-task with the servers like we have to do playing their over-priced game.. !!!!

[harsh anvil]

just bring us an officer for surveys thats it you will make everyone happy whatever you do in this frogging arc

[vale falcon]

first thoughts on this arc, it's going to be a low spend month.. 💩

[subtle nacelle]

Please stop adding new currencies, please stop adding new materials needed for every ship, please stop adding new ships until the base game is fixed

Several of the existing ships/currencies/refineries have been a complete disaster, we want improvements and better ways to unlock existing content, not new, unobtainable content

Have completed every F2P event since vidar refit was introduced, I MIGHT be able to get it during the next borg event. I have 2 shards for jellyfish refit, will take another ~4 years. I have a dozen officers i've not even unlocked, let alone anywhere near maxing even 1%. the drops from cerritos below deck officers are miserable

[marble radish]

Why bother having a discord if you are going to stop players making constructive criticisms by not allowing them to post ?? Another typical hogwash FB tactic.. !!!!

[rare coral]

let alone completely wrecking the traingle for battleships

[waxen kite]

they are pushing Incursions hard because its war, their last attempt to fix their down falling revenue.....

[mossy leaf]

And yet it makes me want to spend less, not more.
Less as in $0.

[waxen kite]

discovery, dvor, stella, vidar, feesha, franklin, franklin a, jellyfish, ceritos, mantis... soon more "event" ships then proper ones lul

[twilit slate]

Wow, more currencies, more stuff to refine, another one trick pony ship - really?!?! This is already the highest differing currency game on the planet.

And a ship from a SNW culture that sacrifices children to survive 🤔

[late timber]

According to what I’ve heard, Mantis will not be available for f2p players so who care anyway

[waxen kite]

"Strike Team La’An" whats next? Cheerleader La’An? Borg La’An? Dominion La’An? what a joke .

[kind fractal]

A family trait, like Harrison and Khan 😂

[marble radish]

Content is required to keep a game interesting.... but over-crowding a boat is only going to make it sink all that much faster !!! I heard the TITANIC tickets were vastly over priced as well !! 😎

[lapis charm]

We don’t want another ship and more currencies. We want you to fix the stuff that is broken and make the existing mechanics better

[nova sierra]

they say it will be in the future

[barren tulip]

😕

[waxen kite]

@lapis charm didnt you see the "extensive" bug fixes tho ? everything that has to do with a fail event called Incursion is getting fixed that shouldnt even happen in the first place and should have been tested gazillion times over prior of release , as i know we aint a "test group" and this aint a "beta" game... who knows maybe one day i wake up and see things like "Fixed loot table for 40+ hostiles" , "Improved rewards and reduced cost of g4 epic and rare chest" ... or ill just keep dreaming ....

I feel again i will end up in Incursion having to beg the other server players to come waste hours to do my and theirs SMS in "specific" system that nobody ever heard off just to get 1 Cheerleader La’An and Mommy Una shard... pathetic.

[tender crow]

Oh look another 1 hit wonder single use ship that requires special resources to upgrade special resources/currency to activate its main abilities meaning more stuff to have to collect... in miner amounts daily ... unless you buy packs.... "Nobody will ever catch on to the fact that's there's a max limit you can have from daily collect but you can buy as much as you want"....
Oh but Wait "we fixed a bunch on incursion issues"..... " we will not talk about the stupidity of running incursions during the week.... you know when most people are at work..... just dazzle them with all the repairs we made to a failed event"....
"Scopay! In it for the $ who cares about customer loyalty or happiness "

[waxen kite]

still waiting on that one particular knight with shiny armor to come here and say: "But guys they fixed gain in overall power will be displayed when upgraded buildings or research!" 😂 😂 😂

[nova sierra]

please tell us it will be down 1-3 hours instead of 1 ffs

[fallen phoenix]

They look to much at Star Trek Timelines. There you have every officer in different forms, for nearly every event a new one. So one officer can be common, rare and epic and inside the rarity even with other names and features.

[tender crow]

I don't understand why they are adding abilities to a/b generators!?
Hello what about the Refinery!?! Have to level it up at certian spots to push your ops up further but it's still the only building in the game that gives absolutely zero boots to anything.... not even improved chances of Refinery pulls.... which let's face it.... the refinery pulls are garbage and need an overhaul....
Nope , nope we fixed incursion issues... 🤷🤦

[waxen kite]

fix incoming in 2025, dont worry.

[versed flame]

Where the hell is the refinery improvement???????

[tender crow]

@waxen kite umm... you're being a bit to optimistic with that!?! More like 2125...

[light bison]

@scopley rather than introducing new mechanics/ships/currencies how about you fix what is already wrong

[waxen kite]

"we shall not confirm or deny there are issues with refinery"

[versed flame]

No, we were promised refining improvements. Not buffs. This change was promised to us last month. That’s what I’m talking about.

[waxen kite]

bud for "only" 300 $ you can buy ore, gas, crystal primes , eather g3 or g4 and enjoy getting 5 more unc per pull , why you so demanding 😂 🤣

[twilit slate]

I already don't use my ceritos, sarco, jelly - why would I get another ship I won't use

[wispy silo]

hi there, can you play? i'm on windows 10 and no access yet !

[glad cradle]

Still under maintenance

[waxen kite]

its taking longer because they decided that they dont need to add another useless, one trick poney, another currency ship

[tender crow]

I swear nobody that actually works at Scopay actually plays STFC... if they did maybe they would realize we don't need more single use ships and currencies/resources.
They'd know there's tons of content already in the game that needs an overhaul/improvement.

[waxen kite]

they still think that issue in their dropping revenue can be quick fixed with clicking a panick button called new ship

[sullen matrix]

lol, implementing keyboard shortcuts without the ability to rebind/unbind

[nova sierra]

6. Chrysalis silk
7. Diluted Nitrium
8. Cytotoxin Slime

[rich rover]

A few months ago... we had assurances from scopley that game quality and gamemlife balance would be respected and focused on...
And, while the new content is great and they re trying to provide a good gaming experience.... more farming, more time in game to get stuff done is fundamentally going against that commitment...

You're promising one thing... then going back on your word...

Stop it.

You're hijacking our tike, making us pay for it, and devaluing the experience.

Stop it.

[sullen matrix]

ofc hotkeys do no work in event screen, who would want to directly go to galaxy/system view when deeply buried into event layers

[nova sierra]

the new galaxy map zoom in the pc version is not good, ok it is more fast and thats good, but the resources minable in a system are now visible only the last level of zoom, and that level is unusable for how little map you see with it, give us the resources info in the second to last level too please

[tranquil dew]

And the leaderboards are still borked after the incursions, is this just a thing now then?

[waxen kite]

wait, what? seriously this is a SHIP ? i swear to god i thought this is a sci fi skate board

[steel pulsar]

ok where do I tell Scooply to to fix the claim section for gifts, it is crowded and hard to view if you are missing something

[nova sierra]

man, that was a very long hour

[open sundial]

@tacit obsidian Are we going to get the refinery improvements that were slated for last month? Any update there?

[worthy lagoon]

Is this in the wrong place? The Gifts section doesn't feel right, @tacit obsidian.

[frigid perch]

@tacit obsidian what's going on with the double 7 day gift chests? 1 of them is rubbish. 😆

[tacit obsidian]

yes! Should be out this week or next week. Will keep everyone posted

[tacit obsidian]

Lemme check into that seems like it's in the wrong place

[indigo gull]

Stuck on adjusting, game is updated, restarted, connection is perfect. Doesn't seem to budge. Edit : S21 5g

[open sundial]

Good news. Thanks!

[tacit obsidian]

Which device are you on?

[swift steppe]

Um gift boxs should be , you know, gifts

[graceful plume]

adding shortcuts but not adding it for main action button is so scopely xD

[wind vortex]

Anyone figured out how to scroll in a controllable way on PC now? The starmap is uncontrollable, and the supposed hotkey for it (y) opens inventory instead.

[simple spade]

Paywalling a ship for 6+ months was probably not the best idea for customer relations.

[sullen matrix]

Activate/Select: Left Button

I presses all the left buttons on my KB and nothing worked

[indigo gull]

S21 5G

[tawny umbra]

If you need to purchase something, whether with in-game currency or real, it doesn't belong under a tab called "Gifts"

[vale wasp]

Fancy way of saying left click

[tacit obsidian]

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?

[cinder portal]

sorry scoply but this update at least w.r.t the hotkeys on PC is an absolut failure. You are talking to the guys in the Ops, you have access to what ripper implemented and rather then copy it in the right way you crap everything up.

In which language on this earth is "G" making sense for the Research screen?
Why the hell you dont have a Main-Action / Attack button?
Why in earth would you choose the enter button to open the chat window rather then confiming a screen or what ever??? everything would make more sense than this!

[subtle nacelle]

the daily chest section is far too cluttered. And the most recently used item (10 min chest claim) is being pushed further and further right. Please clean it up and have the free chest claims be the leftmost item (except for once off/apology gifts)

also facing very frequent hanging while loading on iOS with new update. Every few loading screens (events, chests, opening a system etc) keep getting stuck on loading

[wary fjord]

Did the scrolling on the system map change on PC with the update? It now feels really janky rather than it being smooth before?

[sullen matrix]

i know, it just should have been called "Left Mouse Button", but even considering that, it does not do that as long as you dont hover over the action, but then its just a simple click and not an action.

[tender elk]

@tacit obsidian My feedback to the hotkeys: A option to disable these new hotkeys would be very nice. They mess up a lot sadly

[native quarry]

OMG the hotkeys. 🤣 This is beyond farce. It's like they went out of their way to swap every possible logical key choice for an insane, impossible to remember one. 😂 You couldn't make this up.

[forest ice]

hotkeys are fine, they broke zoom, mostly impacts the galaxy map. it's now snappy so if I want to see the name of a system. I HAVE TO ZOOM ALL THE WAY IN.

[sweet violet]

Ohhh Scopely.... what on earth did you think (or rather didn't think) ? It is almost unfathomable how bad you could do.

TL;DR

• Which developer in his right mind would ever implement static, and non-editable, hotkeys in a game?

• You implemented a ton of stuff which are only for the whales - now, there's got to be something for everybody, but how did you come to the conclusion that people already buzzing around in 80m+ ships need 400%+ added hull / dmg ? What everyone DO NEED, is not for generators to provide buffs, but for generators to - well - generate resources in amounts usable, instead of being a constant mats/rss-soak for absolutely no value or purpose other than slowing down progress.

• Why do you insist on paywalling most things... the majority of the players are f2p, or semi-f2p... mainly because we don't have the funds to buy ever-increasingly expensive packs - theres no point in continously widening the gap between f2p and p2w... its wide enough as it is (really, it is) - it takes more and more fun out of the game.

Enough venting - hope you come to your senses at some point, instead of continuing to let unnecessary greed decide the path to ruin for a game many love. (All this is of course imho and highly subjective!)

[waxen kite]

when you think they cant surprise you any more with bad content .... they can.

[sullen matrix]

This is secretly a Battle Royal. The Circle gets represented by the Servers and as the Circle closes, the servers merge and reduce until all the whales are left on 1 Server and Scopely waits for the last one to login

[sweet violet]

Probably not what they are anticipating - but it is not an unlikely end of STFC if this continues.

[waxen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-pitchfork-riot-pitchforks-gif-13416816

[thick jasper]

horrible update and patch. why are collector boosts starting at syndicate level 30

[sullen matrix]

shortly after i started this game 2 years ago i already said that Scopely is in an active war against its own playerbase, this is truer then ever

[native quarry]

The only keybind that makes sense is F for Go to Refinery... because when you go to the refinery, you usually get ****** 😂

[peak narwhal]

Sorry scopley, I want to say anything good but that’s no for this arc. What a stupid thing is this? Most are at syndicate lv 14-18… and that’s for lv 30. Never saw more senseless feature. Are there anyone who are able to think about something? Horror decision and patches…

Why not open for all? Sry but I thought you can’t even more senseless …. But you can. Paramount should take all rights from scopley! Or who ever have the rights …

[lapis charm]

@tacit obsidian what is the purpose of adding generator buffs that are unlockable at such a high level of syndicate that the only people who will ever have those are the whales in the high 50s who arguably aren't impacted by the buffs as much because of their research? This entire month is absolutely trash. Nothing new this month is usable. The officers are garbage as they are such single purpose they will be practically unusable for anything other than away teams assignments. When will Scopely start listening to not only the content creators, but the player base as well for the features and improvements we want?

[woeful nymph]

@tacit obsidian If you guys are going to charge us for the new ship just so that we can grind more, people are going to have an absolute freaking meltdown…..

[zealous trellis]

@tacit obsidian OMG REVERT THE ZOOM SCROLL WHEEL SPEED! It's so bad.

[frozen needle]

They are, in fact, going to charge you to grind more, and tie >80% of the events this month to the new features. Which means if you cannot even sit back and relax with event store loot because you won’t be able to get any without paying for the privilege to grind more.

[waxen kite]

I think they must have a special contest in office in which they have to fume as much people each month they can... basically from February of this year starting with the fail Ferengi event they didn't even want to call ARC how bad it was, they are rewarding us with so much bugs, lag, failed events, poor content, empty promises, we are getting hammered with it left and right every month over and over and over , WHEN SHALL IT STOP? When will you start to listen to your community pass the Whale VIP section? do we matter or not ? you are insulting us in every way possible and its not even funny anymore .

[woeful nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/diabolical-community-abed-nadir-gif-19819852

[peak narwhal]

The only good this arc is event store… scopley should use a new name: sad patch 45… and the sadness continues 🤦🏼

[frozen needle]

I can GUARANTEE YOU that they are NOT listening to the VIP community either. No one wanted this. Except maybe “Billy in accounting”.

[atomic pasture]

@tacit obsidian They want the whales to spend. I say let them spend. Just quit this god awful game as they have no desire to keep smaller players around. This keeps getting worse and worse.

[zealous trellis]

good job not hyperlinking your link on the patch notes to a faq on the mantis.

[waxen kite]

if you think this is bad , wait for DS9 to hit .... you wont be able to open the game without paying anymore.... every brick of that station will cost pure gold ....

[last nest]

$100 for 30 minutes of access

[ornate scarab]

Change the shortcut key for toggle of battle view/resource view to another key other than capslock

[native quarry]

Forget the station - can you imagine what they'll be charging people for the Defiant?

[zealous trellis]

so some ppl were able to claim the new gifts already, despite the rss to do so not being obtainable atm. not sure how that happened.

[waxen kite]

firstborn and a left kidney for tier 2

[iron pine]

**New! - DS-9 **

The highly anticipated DS-9 Station can now be built by your Alliance for a mere 80.000 Space Bricks. This highly coveted currency can be sourced throughout many exciting and new events until we figure out how to actually use it. Each individual player can contribute by buying the new Elite Builder Packs each containing an insignificant amount of RSS and 100 Space Bricks, be the first Alliance on your server to construct this wonderful functional building that will be inactive upon construction until all bugs are fixed in the next event!

[worthy lagoon]

My General Feedback is.... the Mantis is a copy...

[woeful nymph]

@tacit obsidian ...yikes.....

[waxen kite]

start citizen vs stfc, that would be an interesting lawsuit

[zealous trellis]

"Added an improvement where the gain in overall power will be displayed when upgraded buildings or research" I see the research power gain, but not the buildings

[sullen matrix]

Nah, they take heavy "inspiration" from EVE Online, they just copied the Warp Disruptor/Warp Scrambler and made a Ship out of it.
They dont pull anyone out of warp, they prevent the warp.

[last nest]

Stellaris * go look into it lol

[sullen matrix]

no need to, Stellaris is more than a decade younger. EVE is 2003, Stellaris is 2016
And obviously they already copied eve onlines zerospace with the TC

[spring vector]

@tacit obsidian when will Server Transfers be made available again? It is getting a bit boring being unable to progress waiting around for days to join my friends. Thankfully there are other games to play anyway. Why would this Incursions thing stop the Server Transfers so new players can move on to where they want to be?

[fallen epoch]

🤔 have you checked it might be open for you? A bunch of servers were opened up early

[tribal bane]

Just un believable and Billy hates it too it’s some marketing SVP that never touched a game in his life

[waxen kite]

what will stop people for trolling others and debuffing people ships in armada ? i can allready see this ship as pure cancer and it should never come out .

[alpine elk]

@tacit obsidian Question; after the community survey about what needs changing & scopley saying they will address the highest priority……this new arc has improvements to the 7day & 30 day chests, making generators more useful & increasing syndicate xp HOWEVER all of this is addressed if your basically a very high ops with syndicate locked at lvl 25…..Does this mean scopley believe they have addressed the issues we the players highlighted in the survey???

[spring vector]

I tried after this maintenance thing and sadly no. I don't know who else is stuck waiting for days to move on. My friends are a little embarrassed to say the least getting me to play this with this thing not working. The random Alliance I got dropped into when I first played does have people waiting too. How do you tell what servers have 'opened up'? Pretty much all of them show green to Transfer to but it does not work. I did put in a ticket and they confirmed a few days ago that it is unavailable and to check after the new patch is out. Quite frustrating, not really a good start.

[fallen epoch]

I had a guy transfer to mine a few days ago. Can you pm a screenshot of the transfer page. I’m curious if it’s caused by the servers still being locked

[spring vector]

Transfer page as in the server select page? That's all showing green bar the ones on what I guess is maintenance or something. It's been like that for days.

[fallen epoch]

Yes that. Send me a screenshot please in PM

[spring vector]

its says the message cannot be delivered as you are only accepting messages from friends 🙃

[fallen epoch]

1 second I’ll enable and you can send again. It might be your settings. I’ll add you as a friend. Nope doesn’t work. Your settings are too strict. You will have to add me 😅

[knotty niche]

Please add an option to rebind the hotkeys.

[final plinth]

I appreciate you added native support to hotkeys into the pc client. However the implementation is flawed. Hotkeys have to be reassignable to cater to different playstyles. Please look at rippers mod if you want an idea how to do proper hotkeys!

[spring vector]

sent friend request

[zealous trellis]

When a one-man designed mod does something better...

[sullen matrix]

because he actually plays and cares

[wind eagle]

the new update..... Mantis ship is ugly as hell.... again new type of hostiles for grind instead of utilising and optimising exiting options.... plus nothing like Actians exist in Star Trek 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[iron pine]

Actians is a different word for Accountants

[waxen kite]

next type of hostiles will be called divorce lawyers for sure

[wide marsh]

My initial response after reading the patch notes was 'Meh - this is not exciting at all'. My response after coming here to provide my initial response and seeing that the bonues from the generators were locked to some rather quite high syndicate levels is 'Oh for **** sake. Really'. I guess I'll be able to see whether that matters in about a year or so, maybe. I'd have much rather have had the generators generate a usable amount of resources, but hey.... whatever.

[wind eagle]

still there are no Actians in Star Trek so it is simply a made up thing.... I thought this game would remain original to the source and mantis is just 🤦‍♂️

[sullen matrix]

Whales getting even bigger and Explorers now have to run for their lifes if they see a battleship

[weary igloo]

Yeah…and explorer based show…here is a combat crew for battleships….because $$

[waxen kite]

you open coding you click on generator you switch the number to a different number , job done, or im over simplifying it ? AND it would be better game improvement with one click then last 6 months of this game.

[wide marsh]

Yep, that and remove the bit that says 'don't generate once the amount reaches x'

[waxen kite]

yes i forgot that , that would be one awesome patch that i would be happy to wait for .

[final plinth]

The buff added to the generators makes them useful but tying it to generators makes thematically no sense. It could have been research or another building or straight up Syndicate Milestones.

I would have appreciated a buff that actually makes sense tying it to generators, like passive and somewhat meaningful resource generation. Or resource spend reduction or or or

[fallen epoch]

It basically is syndicate milestones you need level 30/33/35 to unlock them

[warped kernel]

So, you are introducing a ship and people that don’t exist in any of the Star Trek story lines. You make it pay only and it will obviously be used to harass those that don’t pay to play? This may be the last straw for me on this game. What will you do when you have run off the largest portion of your players and your whales no longer have anyone to fight? They will leave to and it will all collapse. What a shame. Properly managed this game could be unbelievably successful with a very long shelf life

[quick marten]

I think you guys are introducing too much new stuff into the game. How about slow down and fix all the bugs. Too much new officers, ships, buff, etc can be confusing and takes away from the game.

[tropic nexus]

Hello Scopely, i like the new hotkeys features. But scroll is now broken. Please check that out. Thank you

[leaden lintel]

As if 4* rss weren't stretched thin enough already, a new 4* ship that will need them too. 💩

[lyric narwhal]

I’m sure it’s been complained about above. But Scopely, you missed the mark on generators so badly it’s not even funny. All anyone wants them to be is for them to be value added. Let me store enough resources and generate enough to actually be able to build even just 1 building. Instead you have added a mechanic that benefits 1% of the player base and furthers the divide between spending and not spending. This is how you slowly kill a game, not grow it.

[noble berry]

Any ETA on the server mergers? Or was that some more smoke blown up our.......

[fallen epoch]

Where did you get news of server mergers? (just curious)

[tribal bane]

Well I’m sure we’ll need more by the end of this arc 😂😂😂

[noble berry]

Was in the in-game news feed. Was near the 1st incursion event.

[fallen epoch]

Ok just checking as we had a merge message come to our server but it was from the October merges last year so we know it’s not happening. Sounds like you guys are merging if the date was correct. Eco will have the answers for merges

[vale falcon]

Nope

[waxen kite]

ofc its 100$.... useless one trick pony.

and there is no ship BPs pass jelly in event store.. seriously shame on you scopley, disgusting !

[fallen epoch]

There is ISS bps in the event store

[slender fulcrum]

It's good to have the event store back but the blueprints stop at enterprise/augur/d4 + ISS ... but I'm lvl 44 :/

[blazing summit]

Exactly, useless. I'm saving for a vorcha, even a nova would be more use.

[unreal gull]

The PC keyboard shortcuts are going to improve the skill ceiling of takeover matches. I definitely approve.

[hoary lynx]

@tacit obsidian Please ask the team to give us the ability to get ship bp in larger bundles than 1 chest at a time.

[brazen prism]

I really miss the blueprints for 42 ships, I am level 41.. I don't need tier 3 ships anymore al maxout gladius and tier 7 ent.. will be nice to get blueprints for 42 ships

[swift steppe]

A new grind and more officers to get shards for bleh

[trail garnet]

Another crappy arc. Scoplied again. No effort just a cash grab.

[gloomy vale]

@tacit obsidian picture from German App Store but no german language under last updates??!

[humble grove]

Everytime! I get the alert, go to check and then forget about it once I realise it doesn't work

[polar basin]

I observed no bugs yet and a seamless Battlepass start - respect!

[fallen epoch]

hold on to my beer

[tacit obsidian]

Happy to ask

[tacit obsidian]

They are being worked on still! That's on me

Promise there will be translations soon.

[hoary lynx]

Thanks!

[echo basin]

I cannot believe they added another non-canon specialized hostile grinding ship to the game. This is miserable. This mechanic isn't tired, it's exhausted. The specialized grinds were too much already and forcing myself to go grind specialized hostiles with otherwise useless ships was already a tough daily ask. I'm out.

[wanton dust]

@tacit obsidian I think you guys are getting a little loose with what you're calling a bug fix. IMHO correcting a spelling error is not a bug fix. Updating the 10 minute chest table to make it worth collecting is a bug fix. Fixing the extended zoom so that I can send an Alliance Help without changing my zoom settings is a bug fix.

[polar basin]

Please introduce a “Neither” option

[native quarry]

Not doing it. Won't. Can't make me.

[echo basin]

I almost want to laugh at this move. It's preposterously out of sync for what the players want.

[waxen kite]

yep definetly need that at ops 46

[polar basin]

2* Gas minerals let the plants on baord of your Pilum grow faster

[warped kernel]

Bringing ships and species into the game that don’t exist in any Star Trek story line ruins the game and what drew many of us to the game to start with. Add to it the ridiculous effects of the ship and this is a big giant 💩. Should be removed from the game immmediately

[native quarry]

I appreciate the edit for clarification, though you wouldn't be the first to call me 'preposterously out of sync'. 😂

[polar basin]

@fallen epoch I am serious. When I get raw 2* material then the 2* refinery jumps into action and gives me notifications, forcing me to refine

[fallen epoch]

🤔 today is a strange day 👀

[native quarry]

If there's one thing Trek fans like, it's canon. Things that aren't canon dilute/pollute the universe and Trek fans' collective imagination. Making up ships and aliens nobody has ever heard of, while we're still waiting for the long-ago promised DS9 and Voyager arcs, is a huge turn off. Non-canon content will only push fans away from the game.

[opaque bronze]

Hmm…off to re-read the rules in regard to censorship.

[potent star]

Zooming is completely broken now. On PC it's not too back, but it's HUGE zoom for a little scroll. But on Android and iOS it's completely horrible. Pinch 10-12 times to zoom out. UGH!

[slate bloom]

Cerritos refit.
Why would I (or anyone else for that matter) want to buy 125 shards to unlock a refit that costs 120?

[polar basin]

Its not broken instead they changed it without announcing it. play with it - you will understand how it works

[native quarry]

Nope. My PC now has three zoom levels in galaxy:

• super zoomed out so all the stars are tiny dots
• medium zoomed in, but not close enough to see system names
• super close-up, so I can see about three systems at a time

Sorry, but that is what we call broken. 😂

[tacit obsidian]

Let me check on this!

[fallen epoch]

How so? August is just starting?

[willow otter]

For me the same. On PC, When i restart the game i see all names and materials who are in the system. When i scroll one time, i need to scroll full in to see names and materials.😢

[placid ermine]

Whoops. Thx for trolling! :)

[final plinth]

just make sliders or input-able numbers for all these types of things!

[vestal verge]

Personally I'm on the $19.99 Scopely Diet Plan. If it costs over $19.99 & doesn't have enough swag to warrant spending $19.99. I won't buy it! Typically I will buy the Premium Rewards for the Battle Pass only. Having spent thousands of dollars past couple years. I have decided no more enrichment of Scopely for digital products. That are over priced with very little swag for the money. In other words, I'm not getting enough stuff for the money they're charging. Take for example the new ship, Mantis. $100 for BP's & some token stuff to go with it. A ship that's very limited in scope that doesn't have broad use in the entirety of the game. Screw that noise!!!!!!
Will simply wait for free alternatives for BP's or I just won't get it at all. Not having that ship won't stop me from playing the game nor will it have any impact on my game play. Scopely looses revenue, if the same package was $19.99 instead of $99.99. I would buy it & I suspect thousands of others would as well for that price. Scopely would gain revenue & they could multiple that factor if they offered all the packages for $19.99 or less. I'm spending less time playing STFC & playing other games that offer better in game spending value for a few dollars. When I feel I'm getting a better perceived value for my money, I'm willing to spend it. Scopely isn't providing me with that feeling, in fact very much the opposite. Which is why I'm on the Scopely $19.99 diet plan now. I won't spend $99.99 for a package deal with limited swag. I would spend $99.99 on 5 $19.99 packages, each one filled with a lot of swag. These are digital products, costing peanuts to produce with 10000x profit margin or more. If you want more players spending money on the game. Make it more affordable for all players which increases spending & increases revenue. Unfortunately Scopely continues to ask far to much & why I'm on the $19.99 Scopely Diet Plan.

[sullen matrix]

you use a modded client, pretty obvious that your fault

[worthy lagoon]

@tacit obsidian ... Google calls "shenanigans" on the species Scopely made up. 👁️ 👄 👁️

Scopely hasn't earned the right to create Star Trek lore.

[gleaming nebula]

New bugs: if attacking hosti with the new ship and try to send pm messages game crashes. If using new ship lot’s of times unable to scan hosti. And touchscreen becomes unusable.

[worthy lagoon]

I think your wallet is actually upset with you for buying another one trick pony. 😉

[dusky mortar]

Ffs scopoly...pull it together...stop adding new content and FIX ALL THESE GLITCHED AND BUGS!!!

[tame dove]

This arc looks so boring...can barely bring myself to do events. Like it's just endless grind so I can get blown up by a bigger player/whale....and the Cerritos and Mantis seem to be outlining where the meta is going. Buff your alliance's whale/power players, debuff the enemies and hope your buffed whale is stronger than the debuffed enemy. That's incredibly boring and unsatisfying for the player giving the buff. Also, because of the way these buffs work you won't see a big jump in the ships power and visually it's very likely gonna be some color of circle around the ship, no big deal. But that means for the player giving a buff or debuff all they actually experience as a player is the ship that was used to buff might get blown up or the cheap ships they are throwing at the enemy as a distraction will get blown up. Maybe their alliance mate will blow up enemies but that's not very engaging for them as a player, and does nothing for the main issue that this has created. A wall of red messages in the buffing players Battlelog, because the vast majority of combats result in a loss. You want people to feel like pvp is balanced, you want people to get creative in how they pvp, give them a chance to see green in their Battlelog.

[indigo gull]

@tacit obsidian will there be other ways to earn these actian keys other than via arc pass?

[lime scroll]

When I upgrade a ship part, game crashes. On iPhone.

[fallen epoch]

Tried reinstalling the game?

[rigid cave]

Don't make the mistake I made to buy the Mantis if you are lvl33... I cannot tier it up because I need to be lvl34... But for the upgrade your Mantis event I am in the same scoring block as a lvl43 player... Whose ship hits space at double my power right off the bat because of his research, lvl buffs and officers. So he can tier his ship up way past my ability, score more than 3 times the same amount of rss per trip than I can... But I am in the same scoring bracket as him... WAKE UP SCOPELY!

There is no way I can compete against players 10lvls above me... This whole Arc is a complete waste of my time. Why even bother?

Sorry... Looks like I was wrong... THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS ON THE SAME SCORING BLOCK!!! So I have to compete against lvl53 players!!! How does Scopely think this is at all possible or fair? I can ignore the whole Arc and rather just close the account at this rate. I will never be able to win any of these events... Completely pointless

[cinder citrus]

Hey I feel ya, in the cube event for the borg officer I get screwed over by a lvl 41 who shouldn't even be in my SLB

[balmy spear]

So uhh... where's this? Or any news pertaining to? Or was this just put out there to gaslight us?

[fallen epoch]

This week or next week. No specific date yet but this is the timeline given by Eco

[sinful rain]

@tacit obsidian so turning off the buff notifications may have turned off the hostiles. Since your announcement there have been no hostiles to kill for the mantis. Is there any quality control with the game? The launch issues are multiplying and as a whale in the game I can only imagine the frustration for F2P

[cinder citrus]

Hah, us f2p can't do anything

[fallen epoch]

AX-77 and 78 are known problem to have no hostiles. The other systems still have hostiles

[simple spade]

If you really want me and others to buy this ship, you really should release some more details on the refinery. Most players are buying a specialty ship like this for the refinery or other benefit it gives.

• Cooldowns
• Refined amounts/tier
• How much we can reasonably expect to collect/token (ballpark me)
• the officer drop rates
• etc

Sell me on it. Make the business case. The mystery around the refinery just prevents me from buying it, because i'm not sure if it helps me or not. Scopley has the information, why can't they release it with the ship?

[shadow wharf]

Are you sure Scopely "has the information" though?🤣

[iron pine]

Scopely is Hollywood and every Arc is a reboot of Spiderman no one asked for.

[cosmic echo]

Do the devs have access/see/respond to info posted in this chat?

[wide marsh]

There are 2 devs online on this server right now.

[native quarry]

No? Where did you get that idea? 😂 I use the regular STFC PC client.

[iron pine]

"devs" right. You mean whoever drew the short straw and has to login the account for this week rotation? ;>

[cosmic echo]

I have a couple of questions for the Scopely game devs, if here. 1. Are you guys planning/working on a Voyager arc? If so, I have a really cool idea about some of the gameplay for that. 2. My other question is about PvP. Why do you make it so that an ops lvl 35 and up can hit much lower levels such as lvl 30? It’s not really fair to have players that are lvl 39, 42, 59 killing lvl 30 players. It’s impossible for the lower players to fight back and it’s just tedious for the upper levels to have to deal with such low lvls.

[native quarry]

Your second question is one most of us have been asking for three and a half years. At one point a couple of years ago they tightened up the brackets slightly but they're still way out of whack and disproportionately benefit the big players.

[cosmic echo]

Yea, I was certain I am not the only one to have asked that, but thought it was worth a shot anyway.

[tepid bramble]

Are they doing with the Mantis what they did with the Cerritos? Or am I going to have 50 bps for another grinding ship, for another currency and build path in an already bogged down game?

[lunar falcon]

Syndicate levels needed for generator buffs aren't reachable for most of the community.

[fallen epoch]

Same as Cerritos basically

[iron pine]

Not the same really, F2P Cerritos was quite quickly obtained afterwards; now they are giving us the finger.