funny thing is unstable oc has negative impact usually
#overclocking
zenith palm
scenic vine
wheas are weird
because they will hurt perf, but they're also not gonna cause stability issues (whea 19 on zen3)
mental turret
proven canopy
I have possibly the most potato bin 13600k I've seen. 6.7 ycruncher, 6.9 cinebench, 7.5 32m.
https://hwbot.org/submission/5121421_
tall pelican
I have possibly the most potato bin 13600k I've seen. 6.7 ycruncher, 6.9 cinebe...
you feel like benching my ES? 
P barely do 5.2 at 1.30-1.35ish die
humble jay
<@401118397707976705> Maybe not all es are good...
*QS
look what splave just put up
sudden torrent
Wow a whole 30 fps, that's finally enough for real time render on a midrange CPU
dull ginkgo
@proven canopy take points from this guy
https://hwbot.org/submission/5115265_matsglobetrotter_cpu_frequency_core_i5_13600k_(6p)_6398.46_mhz
proven canopy
Lol, I wouldn't gain anything
Only top 60 hardware point subs go towards my rank,
Once/if I get a better 13600k I'll just run everything though
dull ginkgo
Fair
quartz summitBOT
sudden torrent
Turtle says so
ancient bridge
Okie lol
zenith palm
Would highly recommend ram stress testing on an alternative os ie a 2nd windows install as ram oc can corrupt so you don't really want to use your oc without it being tested for ages
latent wolf
So Im trying to figure out what OC I can get on PNY XLR8 DDR4 3200mhz RAM and cant find anything in the ZEN-RAM Overclock list
zenith palm
Where you able to figure out what die you have? Try sending a picture of the sticker on the ram and try typhoon burner so you can get a guess to what it is
latent wolf
Thaiphoon Burner cant determin what Die I have so I dunno what I can get with changing timings
zenith palm
Thaiphoon Burner cant determin what Die I have so I dunno what I can get with ch...
What's it say?
latent wolf
Undetermined
zenith palm
Does it at least say the manufacturer?
kind walrus
What's the xmp too?
dull ginkgo
Pny doesn't really have codes on labels so it's wack
dull ginkgo
XMP Revision 2.0
What's the freq and timings?
kind walrus
Yeah that ^^ lol
zenith palm
And xmp voltage
dull ginkgo
If nothing else, just assume it's a crap die (it probably is), and push it to maybe 3400 at 1.4v
kind walrus
Interesting, I expected a quicker response
dull ginkgo
And tighten timings
kind walrus
zenith palm
If nothing else, just assume it's a crap die (it probably is), and push it to ma...
Could be c die
latent wolf
short blade
delid time
kind walrus
Lol 8gbit anything
latent wolf
I wanna Push 4000mhz since I have adequate Cooling in the system
kind walrus
Mystery meat ram
zenith palm
I wanna Push 4000mhz since I have adequate Cooling in the system
That's not happening
latent wolf
Ive had it at 3400mhz through BIOS no Problem
zenith palm
Did you stress test it?
short blade
oh boy
latent wolf
Yeah Ran Fine no issues
zenith palm
Booting and stable are completely different
kind walrus
Big difference between 3400 qnd 4000
short blade
we got an expert overclocker in the house
kind walrus
Like huge difference
zenith palm
Yeah Ran Fine no issues
What did you use to stress test it?
kind walrus
Especially on ryzen
short blade
inb4 cinebench
latent wolf
TestMem5
zenith palm
Extreme anta?
short blade
inb4 serj config
latent wolf
Yep
zenith palm
Yep to which?
short blade
your cpu is probably not going to do 4000 1:1
latent wolf
Extreme
short blade
you're gonna need to change your expectations
or buy a different cpu
vast majority of 5800x are stuck at 3733-3800
latent wolf
I dunno how far to push the fclk to achieve what Im after
zenith palm
Well i highly doubt the ram will even boot 4000mhz
short blade
probably also true
zenith palm
Set the fclk to 1/2 the ram speed
latent wolf
@short blade Mine is at 4.575ghz water cooled no issues
kind walrus
Oh no
kind walrus
Pls tell me you didn't static oc
latent wolf
Underclock???? It comes stock at 3.8
zenith palm
Underclock???? It comes stock at 3.8
That's base clock, it boosts to 5ghz easily
kind walrus
Man my 5900X did 4.6 on PBO
latent wolf
Ah
kind walrus
4.65 multi
short blade
Man my 5900X did 4.6 on PBO
all core? i'm talking about gaming
latent wolf
Yeah I used Dual Intelligant Software 5 from ASUS to OC the CPU
short blade
i had the worst 5800x in the world lmao
short blade
Yeah I used Dual Intelligant Software 5 from ASUS to OC the CPU
oh god
kind walrus
Yeah I used Dual Intelligant Software 5 from ASUS to OC the CPU
Bruv wat
zenith palm
Yeah I used Dual Intelligant Software 5 from ASUS to OC the CPU
Rip your cpu
short blade
with all due respect please revert your system entirely to stock and do a lot more research before you overclock anything
you are going to damage your hardware
latent wolf
Ive manually BIOS OC to 4.2 and had stability issues
zenith palm
Auto cpu overclocks are so dangerous
short blade
4.2...
zenith palm
Ive manually BIOS OC to 4.2 and had stability issues
Thats a hard underclcok
latent wolf
SO Your saying Run the PBO from the BIOS then to get the Best OC?
zenith palm
Seriously if you reset bios, turn on xmp again and turn on pbo you'll get way better perf
zenith palm
SO Your saying Run the PBO from the BIOS then to get the Best OC?
Yes
kind walrus
SO Your saying Run the PBO from the BIOS then to get the Best OC?
1000%
PBO + CO is the fastest, period
zenith palm
Curve optimiser is co btw
kind walrus
Anything else apart from stock and that is just plain dangerous
short blade
PBO + CO is ***the fastest, period***
nooo what about my cinnabench stable 6ghz 1.8v
cinnabench + raisin master 😳
latent wolf
I'm planning on getting a 128gb 4000mhz RAM kit when I get the money I'm just trying to optimize the performance right now.. At 4.5ghz I was running at 32c or 90f idle
short blade
that would decrease your performance
also
idle temps are meaningless unless they're so high it's an indication of cooler failure
latent wolf
Cpu maxes at 90c
@short blade How would that Decrease Performance by going with 4000mhz RAM?
zenith palm
Most ryzen cpus can't do over 3800mhz in 1:1 some not even being able to get above 3600 1:1
mental turret
nooo what about my cinnabench stable 6ghz 1.8v
yes
mental turret
yes
Ask all thy overclocking questions
I will proceed to not answer them using 40 minutes of your time
short blade
yes mr. doctor bill zoid how i get 5 gijahertz on raisin 5 3600? i using stock cooler
zenith palm
yes mr. doctor bill zoid how i get 5 gijahertz on raisin 5 3600? i using stock c...
7v
short blade
wow thank you my cpu has some red rgb now
zenith palm
wow thank you my cpu has some red rgb now
Actually just ditch the psu, plug 120v straight into pc for more perf
short blade
but my psu makes my pc smart 😦 it says smart on it
zenith palm
It depends on your luck but 3800 is the common cap
latent wolf
ok
I know Ryzen Likes RAM Speed where Intel likes Amount.. Just my experience on that one
sudden torrent
Most people will recommend getting 3600c16 memory and then try just bumping the speed/fclk a bit, then testing for errors, repeat until you find your limit.
latent wolf
My understanding is it has to do with the Infinity Fabric on Ryzen Processors
sudden torrent
Yep Ryzen works best when the memory frequency and infinity fabric are synced
latent wolf
Yeah IM Running 3200mhz and With the fclk set to Auto I can stabaly get it to 3400mhz
I try and manually set the fclk and I get crashes when loading games and such but when set to Auto it works no problem
mental turret
I know Ryzen Likes RAM Speed where Intel likes Amount.. Just my experience on th...
That's not really the case. Memory frequency just makes more of a difference up till around 3600MT/s on ryzen because of the way the cpu is designed
latent wolf
ok
short blade
having way more ram than you need will never give you more performance
it will, however, usually limit how fast you can run your ram
so... consider if your use case needs more than 32gb
more isn't better as long as you have enough
latent wolf
@short blade Im a graphic designer and make youtube videos for a client by editing and rendering 3D animations so 128gb is worth it when it comes to rendering a video
mental turret
Would you actually use 128GB?
sudden torrent
Depends on the complexity of the animations but it's possible to use more than 64gb at least
short blade
well as long as you have a use case for more ram then go ahead and buy more ram
just don't expect to run 128gb 4000mhz 1:1, almost nobody can even do that with 16gb
faint tangle
I'd be surprised if 128gb ran at 3600
zenith palm
It would cost a crap tun to buy a 3600 kit
wind prairie
How good is a 2070S being able to push 1980mhz at 195w on 2 fan 2.5 slot cooler staying at 69.5c
Stock boost is 1845mhz
sudden torrent
Not bad. Nice little undervolt I'm guessing.
sudden torrent
It would cost a crap tun to buy a 3600 kit
Not as much as you might think https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KyZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-128-gb-4-x-32-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18q-128gvk
Would probably work best on a T-topology board
steel zephyr
I'd be surprised if 128gb ran at 3600
I've run 128GB at 3733 on a 5950X and 3970X.
Its 3800-4000 speed where 128GB becomes problematic.
sudden torrent
Depends on your luck in the silicon lottery there for the IMC
But yeah 3600 should be easy enough
steel zephyr
Maybe I'm just very lucky very often because I've run 128GB at 3733 with two different 5950X CPUs(both B0 and B2 stepping) and a 3970X. 🤷♂️
wind prairie
Not bad. Nice little undervolt I'm guessing.
Im pushing to 2025mhz rn
Same temps same power draw
sudden torrent
Maybe not so much extra lucky as not unlucky
wind prairie
Jesus christ
And now it crashed
Got through 1st part of run
Gonna try and increase PL
sudden torrent
Yep time spy gpu test 2 is a bit more intense
steel zephyr
Didn't one of the GPU overclocking programs have the ability to change profiles with hotkeys? I remembr someone saying they changed profiles for time spy test 2.
sudden torrent
I think having the software open would impact the performance more negatively than having a hotkey to toggle profiles would help
And afterburner lets you have the hotkey
Could alt tab to it and press "2" between tests
zenith palm
Not as much as you might think https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KyZzK8/gskill-ri...
That's not too bad
restive sequoia
anyone did a stock a770 port royal run?
zenith palm
Check the 3d mark leaderboards
restive sequoia
ehh none are truly stock
zenith palm
ehh none are truly stock
Try hwbot then maybe
mental turret
Try hwbot then maybe
sudden torrent
anyone did a stock a770 port royal run?
kind walrus
@sudden torrent got to try the 13900KF with alphacool subzero, up to 430W under control so I'd say it's pretty good
I will do more tests later once I'm done case modding
And hopefully repairing that one usb slot lol
That's with an eisbaer pro and contact frame
sudden torrent
Nice, yeah that's a decent result
ancient bridge
<@396513761550270464> got to try the 13900KF with alphacool subzero, up to 430W ...
430 my ls720 is dieing just thinking about that
kind walrus
430 my ls720 is dieing just thinking about that
13th gen is a lot easier to cool
You can pull more power out using the same block
ancient bridge
Still 430watts is alot compared to my cpu lol
kind walrus
So yeah 430 is a lot but it's the same as like 290 on the 12900kf
ancient bridge
Radiator might be a bit warm lol
My fans go to there lowest speed with the 5700g in using atm
Lol
humble jay
my a770 is still dead 😎
ancient bridge
Cant do 0rpm otherwise they probably wouldn't even need to spin lol
kind walrus
Ultimate intel only build when
ancient bridge
UHHHHHHHHGGGGGG WHY DIDNT I GO INTEL
I bought soon before the launch like an idiot
Intel didnt even pop in my head i dont know why
Why so stupid
kind walrus
You are in fact
Monkey
🐵
If we consider the monkey typewriter problem then in some parallel universe you eventually bought an intel
So congrats on your purchase
sudden torrent
UHHHHHHHHGGGGGG WHY DIDNT I GO INTEL
Not like it makes a lot of difference anyway in real world games
ancient bridge
Not like it makes a lot of difference anyway in real world games
I mean yea but still
Its the fact that i bought am4 before it got phased out
Well
Sorta
Phased out
sudden torrent
Maybe when the 7800X3D is out in February and people upgrade
Sell 5800X for $200 and buy 3D for $300, ez clap
kind walrus
Hopefully the price isn't gross
sudden torrent
Oh dang actually the X3D is only $330 rn
Sold by antonline ebay account
OOS almost everywhere else
ancient bridge
Oh dang actually the X3D is only $330 rn
Time to return 5800x
sudden torrent
I'm almost tempted myself. $200 is currently a reasonable ask for a used 5800X on ebay so it would be a $130 upgrade...
ancient bridge
I'm almost tempted myself. $200 is currently a reasonable ask for a used 5800X o...
Ooooo thats not bad at all
Hehehe
kind walrus
Pbo?
ancient bridge
Mmm spicy 5700g
kind walrus
Mmm I'm not too familiar with APU's. @modern walrus does the degradation stuff happen the same way as vermeer as cezanne?
wanton sundial
I plan to buy cp too
ancient bridge
I plan to buy cp too
WAIT WHAT
ancient bridge
Mmm I'm not too familiar with APU's. <@808772530017665024> does the degradation ...
Im not sure either its doing 2500mhz 1.35v
wanton sundial
I mean I'm interested in what I see the I think in cp
ancient bridge
Wth are u trying to say
wanton sundial
I mean it's
sudden torrent
CP means a lot of things and one of them is illegal
wanton sundial
It's part of PC right
ancient bridge
Uhhhhh
sudden torrent
CPU?
wanton sundial
Yess
sudden torrent
There's lots of guides on youtube
Best to watch a few different ones, maybe one for the specific case you want
wanton sundial
What channel do you suggest?
sudden torrent
We'd be happy to help pick out parts too in #building-and-recc-chat , just give us a budget
wanton sundial
Ohh Linus is good too I heard
sudden torrent
ancient bridge
Yea sure
sudden torrent
I'd rather keep my friends list clean but my DMs are open. Just don't abuse it. You'll get better, faster help asking things in the server than privately.
ancient bridge
Sorry for the rough welcoming lmao
modern walrus
Mmm I'm not too familiar with APU's. <@808772530017665024> does the degradation ...
probably but I honestly don't know. I messed around with a 5600g for like a week but didn't really go too hard with the all-core OC... I think I did like 47.25x on GB3 & 46.75x on ycruncher
after I was finished beating on it I put it in my dad's build to live the rest of its days opening emails & word documents
modern walrus
Mmm spicy 5700g
if you wanna have fun with 56/700g, run it without the GPU drivers installed cuz they steal all your SOC voltage.
without GPU drivers installed, I could run 4933 synced
ignore the timings cuz they're awful lol
Rev E is fun on 5600g.
ancient bridge
without GPU drivers installed, I could run 4933 synced
Should u just leave my voltage
And try to keep pushing clocks
short blade
pins
restive sequoia
Iirc Aorus and strix cards are pre binned soo they should
Also they have much higher power limit compared to base models
ancient bridge
1080ti usually oc pretty good
short blade
one of these days i need to get my hands on a good 1080ti
i've had 2 1080tis and neither of them were good
oh i don't mean silicon lottery
like one was a blower and one was a dual fan zotac mini in a bad case
not broken
just not much thermal headroom for oc
and not great power limits/pcbs
restive sequoia
Have a strix 1070ti it is a god bin
left bladeBOT
oll!e#6615 has been warned
short blade
battlefield v
restive sequoia
Oof not even 10700 
short blade
battlefield v has been a better stability test than any synthetic i've ever tried
short blade
Oof not even 10700 <:kekw:741678350791081994>
?
i'd rather have an i5-11500 than an i7-10700
ancient bridge
Its like 5 dollars rn
restive sequoia
10700 gpu score is easy to do with a 1080ti
ancient bridge
Its like 5 dollars rn
On xbox app
short blade
oh
gpu score
well yeah it's a blower
10.5k is pretty good for a blower
heaven and furmark are both terrible options for gpu stability
restive sequoia
You could put a xoc bios on it 
short blade
time spy 3dmark and then drop core by 30mhz from what passes time spy can work
it was an 8-pin + 6-pin card with little thermal headroom and probably reference pcb
not gonna be the best candidate for an xoc bios
restive sequoia
Yeye
short blade
it was in a pc that was traded to me
curve OR core offset
not and
but combine with memory
depends on your goals
use curve for undervolting use offset for easy straight oc
just use offset then
yes
easiest way to do that is just offset oc and cap it at target voltage
i daily this on my 3090
+195 offset, capped at 825mV
your decision
you can cap it wherever you want
at 825mV cap i lose 10% performance
but my power draw goes from 480W to 240-300W
you decide what balance you want
then don't undervolt
restive sequoia
Not a lot of performance to lose on a 1080ti these days
short blade
just full send oc and crank the fans up
that 10% performance loss is compared to full oc
it still performs better than stock
mostly due to vram oc
just try multiple
lol
i tried everything from 800mV to 1000mV
at 1000mV it needs 550W+
i simply decided i would like to lose 10% performance to cut power draw by 40-50%
that's all there is to it
restive sequoia
short blade
oof
he doesn't seem to be too fond of you either
stock 3090 performance at 3070 power draw is quite nice
depends on card
anywhere from 5-25%
both and more
short blade
lol
25% is gonna take like
vbios modding
or shunt modding
volt modding
etc
but not quite ln2
i got 25% out of a 5700xt with vbios modding on air cooling
depends on card
a 3090 will need to be under water for that kind of ocing
restive sequoia
i mean in certain titles i did gain like 15fps and catch upto the 3060ti
short blade
a 5700xt can do it with a good air cooler
1080ti i'm not sure
like i said both of my 1080ti were not great
i squeezed 6.6% out of my blower 1080ti
no modding
case matters
cpu doesn't unless it's like
limiting you to pcie 2.0 x1
graphics score won't be cpu bottlenecked
while dialing in oc doesn't matter
maximum debloat for benching
doesn't matter if you just want to stability test
the blower 1080ti was in a decent case at least
dude traded me this + $200 for a pc i was selling
just had to make it look better and turned a fat profit
h510 flow should be fine
it was trying its best
i sold that a long time ago
short blade
wanna fight my laptop?
restive sequoia
i dont
short blade
i remember one guy in general chat saying all laptops were useless and his pc was so much better
then i beat his desktop with my laptop and he stopped talking
🤐
restive sequoia
short blade
he was so proud of his stock 3060ti
on the contrary i absolutely did
he was harassing laptop owners lmao
he got banned shortly after anyways
restive sequoia
the first 4 places are me with this same combo
short blade
i've also had 2 2070 supers that both sucked
what an interesting coincidence
2 bad 1080tis and 2 bad 2070 supers
restive sequoia
my strix 1070ti was pretty good bin thats why i did not sell it
short blade
how good?
restive sequoia
like 2145mhz stable in games for the most part
short blade
here's my crappy blower 1070
thats fine for stock
stock reference is 9889
so your card has some factory oc/raised power limit
15 on core
50 on mem
restive sequoia
found the score
short blade
then 25 on mem at the final steps
7837 not bad
closest i have is a 2060
i mean you can try 45
it's whatever
it's all trial and error anyways
i start at 105
restive sequoia
wasnt 12 considered 1 boost bin in pascal
restive sequoia
seems like it
short blade
ok yeah
12.5 then
it rounds to nearest boost bin anyways
oof
what's real clock at +105
short blade
lmao
restive sequoia
lol
short blade
i think my blower 1080ti did +210 but real clock not that high
no factory oc
whats real clock at +105
i think bad bin on 1080ti means can't do 1949mhz
ok
my 1080ti would do +210 but that was real clock of barely 2000mhz so
i don't know enough about pascal
wrong person to ask
most of my experience is turing and ampere
and navi 21
yeah i'm pretty new to pcs
started having an interest in pcs in 2020
turing launched 2018
i had a gtx 1050m that did like +400 but again real clock was not that high
like 1800mhz or something
did you max out power limit and temp limit
also background tasks can change the score
the background tasks themselves aren't constant load
did you touch mem yet
too high mem can reduce perf without crashing
core usually doesn't do that
restive sequoia
thats kinda a gddr6x thing
short blade
no
it's definitely a thing on pascal
i saw my 1060 lose 30% perf going from +900 to +1000 without crashing
saw it on both of my 1080tis too
not quite 30%
but smaller drops
restive sequoia
short blade
i was stuck with a 1060 for a few months waiting for 3080 after i sold my old graphics card to prepare for 3080 launch 🤡
had a 1440p165 monitor ready for the 3080 too
thats normal after a gpu driver crash/recovery
modern walrus
Should u just leave my voltage
can you rephrase the question? lol
modern walrus
ya see how high it'll go. I'd stay under 1.35v tho
I mean to be on the save side
why are you trying to get single core so high? SuperPi?
ancient bridge
Nah just for 💩 and giggles lol
modern walrus
ah okay well if it's not for benching you might wanna spend time trying to set each core offset magnitude as low as possible for daily
modern walrus
I mean... I don't wanna encourage doing that but I've beaten my 5900x really hard & haven't degraded yet
at least not to any patently obvious degree
ancient bridge
Idk thats just what ryzen master says it at rn
modern walrus
with PBO enabled?
cuz PBO seems really high at idle
but it drops considerably once there's a load on CPU
ancient bridge
Nah pbo off
And there is load
Ima watch a YouTube vid on it rn
See what they have to say
modern walrus
how "bad" an all-core overclock is depends of course on voltage but about equally on what you're setting LLC to
brazen walrus
For an OC 9900K under full load (tested 5 min & 30min) how high should temps get & be considered safe?
ancient bridge
Well what cooler do u have
ancient bridge
For an OC 9900K under full load (tested 5 min & 30min) how high should temps get...
Aslong as its under 85 your fine
brazen walrus
I have a 240mm rad, nice
I’m seeing a max of around 71°c pushed to 4.6ghz
Under 100% load
ancient bridge
Aslong as its under 85 your fine
But i mean intel rates it at 100c and below
Which i dont rlly recommend lol
ancient bridge
I’m seeing a max of around 71°c pushed to 4.6ghz
Oh ya thats great than
brazen walrus
I’m using intel XTU, I went from 2731 marks to 3745 now, afraid to keep going lol
Awesome, I was worried
ancient bridge
Yea 71 is just fine
brazen walrus
subtle oasis
why is your multiplier only 28
sudden torrent
Power saving mode
zenith palm
Almost always
zenith palm
Possibly
Or you'll just get same perf less power
I'm not available now but there's a pretty decent guide i linked in the pins of #graphics-cards
It does
Yes
faint tangle
That feature is useless
sudden torrent
It's not totally useless, at least it can be used as a starting point for your overclock. It's super conservative about what it considers stable, though.
sudden torrent
3Dmark is on sale for all you benchers out there. One of the best sets of (gaming focused) benches imo and great when it's on sale like this. See #tech-deals
left bladeBOT
oll!e#6615 has been warned
mental turret
7zip benchmark > 3dmark
kind walrus
UBM>all
sudden torrent
Hmm the benchmark that's always heavily favored by amd being suggested by the guy who constantly proclaims the superiority of x79/x99, sus
mental turret
Hmm the benchmark that's always heavily favored by amd being suggested by the gu...
you're right, i meant ycruncher
mental turret
You know, the ||AM5 kind||
there is no intel 7700X
mental turret
restive sequoia
7zip benchmark > 3dmark
<:kappa:886051592590213120>
restive sequoia
It's extra unnecessary heat for no gain coz the 1080ti should be the limiting factor most of the time
ancient bridge
He didn't say it was just for gaming tho maybe he just wants to oc lol
Yes
It is
Lol
restive sequoia
Well cpu oc is a bit boring imo
faint tangle
For you maybe
For cpu oc you always want to do it in bios
There's a safe voltage limit for every cpu, normally one per generation. I've not a clue what it is for 9th gen or most intel cpus for the matter
Throttlestop (software) could be a good start for you
That sounds very high
I would definitely do some research or wait for someone who knows before changing anything
restive sequoia
Throttlestop is for laptops last I checked
zenith palm
It is ye
tall pelican
try 1.4 if delidded, otherwise over 1.35 is uncoolable
tall pelican
shunt mods
scenic vine
There is an xoc bios available
sudden torrent
Well lots of people will be spending time with their family for the holiday in a couple days, but I'm sure someone will be on
fierce cipher
True. If anyone is available Friday let me know
mental turret
Anyone able to help with OCing ram soon
ddr3 perhaps? 🤓
mental turret
😔
ancient bridge
Is ddr5 not fast enough for u 💀
mental turret
yea someone would definitely be able to help
I'd say I would but there are more qualified people so ill just say "someone" lol
fierce cipher
Thanks never really overclocked ram I just turn on xmp and call it a day
mental turret
XMP on most DIMMs is plenty fine for most people
mental turret
depending on what you use your computer for you might not even notice a difference after overclocking your memory
mental turret
yea you probably wont then, but it's still a lot of fun to overclock imo so i'd do it anyway
maybe some aspects of coding, idk, i dont code
fierce cipher
Yeah we will see, if it runs really well I probably won’t mess with it
restive sequoia
better of just overclocking the gpu
scenic vine
Anyone able to help with OCing ram soon
What platform, kit and cpu?
storm carbon
I need a bit of help with overclocking my GPU as I havent done it since I had a GT 710. What is the best way to go about overclocking to get a stable overclock? Especially on a RTX 3080
ancient bridge
I mean for me i iust use afterburner with heaven (benchmark) running
And slowly bring up clocks a lil at a time
But everyone has a different way
pallid nest
why are those all separated? lol
They don't fit on my main monitor
Had to use ultrawide monitor
modern walrus
I think under like view or something you can tile them or something like that
modern walrus
are you doing small ffts
sudden torrent
There's an option to combine the threads into one window
modern walrus
oh okay ya large ffts good
OCCT large helped me a lot with 12th gen & memory testing but dunno if that's ddr5
scenic vine
OCCT is very comparable to prime95
Actually iirc they use the mersenne prime library
Y-cruncher has some great stress tests too
pallid nest
@modern walrus idk if you available but my bios completely changed when I upgraded my cpu my dram voltage is missing now haha
Also I got new stuff like dram training voltage and dram termination
I even got memory training settings
Okay I found voltage
modern walrus
<@808772530017665024> idk if you available but my bios completely changed when I...
you can't even change DRAM voltage at all now?
modern walrus
oh okay cuz taht would've been messed up for real
pallid nest
Nevermind we just gunna stay default all this OCing giving me a headache
short otter
Can someone help me tune memory once again?
I got 4 single rank viper (b-die) sticks of ddr4 4400 cl18, I was running them just fine at 4000 cl16 on my 12600k. SA and vddq voltages are similar to 12600k but is unstable.
My sticks were stable at these settings on my 12600k (anta extreme 0 errors after a few hours)
But now if I run it I get 10 errors instantly then a blue screen lol
proven canopy
Can someone help me tune memory once again?
it's easier to take a picture of astc then post the screenshot here
But do list your voltages, mobo, bios
proven canopy
What are dimm temps like? Do those sticks have sensors? I'd definitely put a fan over them even at 1.5v since you have 4x8
short otter
I'm not sure if they do have sensors
They're patriot viper sticks
What's weird is I didn't change anything at all between CPU changes
They were working for like almost a year like this with the 12600k
proven canopy
I'm not sure if they do have sensors
If they do, they'll show up in hwinfo
rrdl to 4, faw to 16
I'd run 7zip, or ycruncher 1b in between changes to see performance difference
short otter
I don't see memory temperature sensors in hwinfo
short otter
rrdl to 4, faw to 16
Alright
modern walrus
I don't see memory temperature sensors in hwinfo
likely doesn't have them then
modern walrus
I can't get 4000 16-16-16-16-32
have you tried tRAS looser?
short otter
Yeah I tried 36
modern walrus
I got 4 single rank viper (b-die) sticks of ddr4 4400 cl18, I was running them j...
maybe try SA 1.3
modern walrus
I haven't tuned DDR4 on 12th gen but I run DDR5 CPU VDDQ at 1.425 & VDDQ at 1.53
SA is kinda strange on DDR5 cuz you rarely need more than 1.3
anecdotally, I've seen people running like 1.65 SA lol
10th & 11th gen I usually kept SA at or below 1.5 for daily
scenic vine
SA requirements for ddr5 are much lower, however it still does scale a bit
DDR4 SA is fine at higher values, however on my own CPUs the voltage had a sweetspot
modern walrus
DDR4 SA is fine at higher values, however on my own CPUs the voltage had a sweet...
ya I've definitely found that overdoing it won't run either
SOC is the worst for that
zenith palm
Max seems to be 3800 16-16-16-16-36 G2 sadly
See what you can get at G1, unless you're doing bandwidth heavy tasks you'll be better off even if it's less mhz
faint tangle
Still will be a lot better than 3800 in g2
short blade
you're probably doing something wrong if you're capped at 3600g1
try and set ODT finetune to 14 per channel, e-core l2 cache voltage to 1.25v override, rx equalization to 15, RTTs to 80/0/48, and MC PLL SFR voltage to 0.96v
then try again
I have the same board
faint tangle
I'm copying this message link to come back to when I'm ram tuning
Because this is all gibberish to me without it in front of me
short blade
took my 13700K from 3900g1 to 4133g1 with those settings, same SA/VDDQ
no guarantee it'll help you but worth a shot
being stuck at 3600g1 is kinda oof
my 12100 did 3600g1 with 0.945v SA
pallid nest
im bored im gunna try to OC again my timing is 3600 Cl16-19-19-39-58 G1 i think thats it
my voltage is 1.35V
yesterday i did 3700 CL16 and my pc wouldnt turn it
but idk much about it i just know how to change timings and voltage but idk all the rest
oh I forgot to put in G1
also is this bad for it to be on
pallid nest
i mean im not using IGPU but the other 2
Oh no
Bruh it worked before 💀
I just enabled G1
I'm gunna up voltage
I don't think my pc liked that
Yay no boot haha
I can try 3500 CL16 that was stable on my i3
Oh no
My pc won't even boot XMP now
@short blade Ahhhhh it broke ahhhhh the XMP 
Welp I'll just run my ram at 2111mhz
Pc acting funny
remote zenith
my cpu support ddr4 3200mhz. motherboard support oc 3600. can i overclock ram will that affect cpu?
remote zenith
Oh
jovial bluff
anyone have a gigabyte 6900xt gaming OC 16 overclocked yet
faint tangle
Every card is different, even the same model
You have to figure out the best oc for yourself by trial and error
kind walrus
If you want a couple tips tho I have second-hand experience with that one specifically
Decent card btw
Weird but decent
Can cool 500W on air
proven canopy
Did you repaste it?
proven canopy
LM?
kind walrus
Nope
proven canopy
What mpt settings?
kind walrus
It sustained near 500, 515 peak
I didn't set the mpt settings as I said I have second hand experience
I believe they were using like, phanteks thermal pads or gelid extreme
Phanteks have pads yeah? Unless I'm thinking of a different p name
No I'm not thinking of phanteks
It starts with a P
proven canopy
Fujipoly is a popular choice
But the mem doesn't really get that hot since it's just regular gddr6
It's core hotspot that's insane on big navi
proven canopy
I would see 110c peak with 65c "core temp" on a 6900xt ref
kind walrus
It had like a 30 delta hotspot
kind walrus
Ye it was like, 65C core then 92, 94ish hotspot
Like it was just shy of that 95 comfy range? But the extra power didn't help it
proven canopy
115c hotspot is shutdown
proven canopy
That's surprisingly low at 500w
kind walrus
Ye
proven canopy
Were they running temp dependent v_min?
kind walrus
Again, I didn't set MPT
The card just wouldn't boost higher tho no
I was mostly along for the ride with advice here and there at the time lol
jovial bluff
If you want a couple tips tho I have second-hand experience with that one specif...
You talking to me?
kind walrus
Ye
kind walrus
Push voltage up
Ram frequency up
Min frequency at least 2450
Try 2650 max
Then zero rpm off
Save settings and apply
Then go download more power tool
You want it
jovial bluff
I have min frequency down because if I have it up it causes clock stretching
kind walrus
Are you benching or daily?
jovial bluff
wym?
kind walrus
Is this for every day or is this for a day of 3dmark
kind walrus
Game stable is a bit different
proven canopy
@jovial bluff I would use mpt + overdriven instead of the amd stuff
jovial bluff
Game stable is a bit different
oh, okay soo i should change them or
i have mpt installed btw
jovial bluff
<@511256003485106177> I would use mpt + overdriven instead of the amd stuff
so put my oc settings into my mpt software.?
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jovial bluff
wth
proven canopy
so put my oc settings into my mpt software.?
I would read some mpt tutorials. https://www.igorslab.de/en/
jovial bluff
Game stable is a bit different
im just confsued i dont get what the guy means by this
i did some tests with my oc and the ones i have are the best ones
jovial bluff
Try 2650 max
this gave me worst performance than 2600
wheat ether
That can actually happen funnily enough
jovial bluff
really
So do i change my amd settings and input them in mpt or
the only thing i change in mpt was my power limit
proven canopy
You mainly use mpt to set power limit and voltage, you use overdriven or moreclocktool to set clocks
jovial bluff
these right
But i got a question..
thisvoltage
in mpt
is different from the ones in my amd
jovial bluff
You mainly use mpt to set power limit and voltage, you use overdriven or moreclo...
oh
proven canopy
I don't know anyone who uses the amd software to oc/bench, I'm sure it works, but everyone uses the tools I've mentioned above
jovial bluff
alright Do i get overclock tool or overdriven
jovial bluff
I don't know anyone who uses the amd software to oc/bench, I'm sure it works, bu...
but do u see how the voltages are different.. in the 2 softwares
or am i lookin at the wrong voltagews
proven canopy
Idk, I've never used the amd software
proven canopy
kind walrus
this gave me worst performance than 2600
It could but you don't know until you try lol
But forks will know better
jovial bluff
It could but you don't know until you try lol
i did try xD using my amd software though
im a little confused still after reading that article
kind walrus
im just confsued i dont get what the guy means by this
Well you can bench to a specific task and be slightly better (bench stable) or aim to be overall stable no matter what (daily stable)
jovial bluff
Well you can bench to a specific task and be slightly better (bench stable) or a...
oohh opkay makes since
Im trying to figure out why these 2 are different bc in the article the mpt matches with their amd software
mine doesnt match at all
proven canopy
Ignore the amd software
jovial bluff
ight bet i will
proven canopy
Watch the gpuz sensors tab to see what the card is actually running. Run time spy gt2 windowed so you can monitor in real time
Rather, I would not use the amd software at all
jovial bluff
yea i wont use the amd software anymoer
proven canopy
maybe you can do the same with it, but really, I don't know anyone who chooses to do so
jovial bluff
i ran the sensors before and it was going off my amd software
so i gatta make it go off my mpt
proven canopy
Enable temp dependent vmin and start playing with the voltages in the image you linked. Something like 1100/1150 for both is a good starter point
I forget, it's been a while
When seby's awake I'll ask him
jovial bluff
Enable temp dependent vmin and start playing with the voltages in the image you ...
in Mpt?
jovial bluff
i scored 23k with my oc settings i have set rn
proven canopy
I wish I put in a run with e cores enabled and cpu at higher clock, but was only going for gpu score at the time for team cup
jovial bluff
Enable temp dependent vmin and start playing with the voltages in the image you ...
wheres temp dependent vmin in mpt
proven canopy
wheres temp dependent vmin in mpt
jovial bluff
got it
So change these
what do i puit my amd thing to..? just leave the settings as they are or set them as default and hope my gpu sensors go off of mpt
proven canopy
what do i puit my amd thing to..? just leave the settings as they are or set the...
That or read the reddit post's recommendations
Or the guide I originally linked #overclocking message
jovial bluff
and what test am i runnning..?
proven canopy
Time spy gt2 is good, if you have the free version, time spy regular is fine
jovial bluff
okay so how i turn off the idenpent vmin if i dont wanna do this lol sounds confusing
proven canopy
jovial bluff
mh i click that
And then how do i get my settings that was orginally on it
dont i gatta open gpu z and copy my gpu thing
this
proven canopy
no
mental turret
@proven canopy oh my god its your favorite ram
jovial bluff
still there..
proven canopy
why did you set 800
kind walrus
Didn't you say 1150 lol
proven canopy
It's default for a reason
jovial bluff
i didnt even change a thing with it..
all i did was turn it on
and then i tried turning it off but it wont go off
still there
proven canopy
Just delete the sppt and be done with it if you want to go back to default lol
jovial bluff
oh it was there in the beginning
So if its unboxed does that mean its not doing anuything right
short otter
you're probably doing something wrong if you're capped at 3600g1
I used to do 4000 g1 with my 12600k, this CPU's memory controller seems odd
zenith palm
4000c16 is a pipe dream
With rev e that sounds pretty doable tbh
jovial bluff
welp idk how to fix this
reiinstalled my gpu drivers still getting stuttering idek
doesntr feel smooth either
restive sequoia
welp idk how to fix this
This in a game?
Sometimes locking the fps down or vsync turned on helps
jovial bluff
This in a game?
ya apex
jovial bluff
tbh i wasnt having any stablioty issues til i checked mark temp dependent vmin on in mpt but then i turned it off and i reinstalled my gpu drivers and everything and still having stablity issues since enabling that..? idk what it does but it messed something up. I can try resetting bios if that doesnt work prolly gonna be done and jsut end up selling the pc.
short blade
@humble jay @celest notch it seems that bios 190 is substantially better for ram oc compared to bios 192 on the pro z690-a d4
the IMC temp sensitivity I observed unfortunately remains, however
15-15-15 is stable* (in absolut, haven't tried others yet) at 1.6 vdimm on bios 190
15-16-16 was unstable at 1.6 and 1.65 vdimm on bios 192, 15-15-15 wouldn't even post at 1.6 vdimm, posted but unstable at 1.65 vdimm
all other settings equal
I noticed that vcore/LLC acts very differently on bios 190 compared to bios 192, but there doesn't seem to be any actual difference to cpu stability once settings are adjusted to produce the same load vcore
overall pleased with this bios, hoping that bios 200 or even an IME update could fix the IMC temp sensitivity but at this point I'm willing to believe it's just hardware
short blade
update: 15-15-15 1.6v passed pcbdestroyer
zenith palm
This looks cool
https://youtu.be/MdQADqB8z-8
jovial bluff
tbh i wasnt having any stablioty issues til i checked mark temp dependent vmin on in mpt but then i turned it off and i reinstalled my gpu drivers and everything and still having stablity issues since enabling that..? idk what it does but it messed something up. I can try resetting bios
jovial bluff
You mainly use mpt to set power limit and voltage, you use overdriven or moreclo...
Welp after you hsd me enable that setting my pc is unstable now:) even after installing gpu drivers and reinstalling
jovial bluff
Yes and yes
jovial bluff
What setting did yo uenable
Yea and I only enabled that one box you said
proven canopy
temp dependent vmin?
That shouldn't hurt anything on it's own, but you need to read the guide for example voltages. Regardless, ddu + new driver should fix it
jovial bluff
That shouldn't hurt anything on it's own, but you need to read the guide for exa...
yea i used DDU to delete my gpu drivers and then i reinstalled them still problems
restive sequoia
yeah its fluctuating all over the place
dull ginkgo
actually it looks fine for gt1 and gt2
I'm guessing you had demo on
these are kinda concerning in gt2 though
restive sequoia
this was the last test i did barely any dip anywhere
dull ginkgo
got gpuz?
dull ginkgo
if you had it open, what was perfcapreason?
jovial bluff
yeah its fluctuating all over the place
Yeaa
jovial bluff
if you had it open, what was perfcapreason?
Didnt have it open
xD
restive sequoia
soo do run while watching over this ig
jovial bluff
soo do run while watching over this ig
wheres this
restive sequoia
in the sensors tab in gpuz then scroll down
jovial bluff
these are kinda concerning in gt2 though
how to fix
dull ginkgo
don't know how to fix if we don't know why frequency drops
perfcapreason would tell you if its temperature, voltage, power, or something else
jovial bluff
perfcapreason would tell you if its temperature, voltage, power, or something el...
cant find percapreason
it isnt in my gpu z
jovial bluff
don't know how to fix if we don't know why frequency drops
there isnt a option for me
kind walrus
GPU looks fine in the tests
The lines are almost flat, dips at the beginning of GT2 isn't a concern either
The cpu bouncing a bit tho you could smooth out
jovial bluff
Yea how
kind walrus
Idk what cpu you have
Lol
I'm guessing it's an intel something
Actually no, could be amd
jovial bluff
I'm guessing it's an intel something
ya
jovial bluff
Idk what cpu you have
i7-12700kf
jovial bluff
mhm thats what i was thinking
kind walrus
What cooler is on the i7
jovial bluff
What cooler is on the i7
jovial bluff
kind walrus
I'm not sure about the frame time graph but at least I could suppose a decent reason for the cpu in time spy
jovial bluff
kind walrus
This graph is?
jovial bluff
This graph is?
amd free sync off stock amd setetings no oc and vsync on in game
kind walrus
Ok so it's stable stock
Lol
Oh I see what's happening
Try dialing back your frequency a bit
proven canopy
