building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

I'll find one that has a better explanation and pin that in #overclocking later

[urban trellis]

solid build

[mossy venture]

Not at all

[little osprey]

Do all intell CPU's have ballpins?

[mossy venture]

For the same price you can do a 12400f and 3080 build

Which would game a lot better

[urban trellis]

depends

on what u play

[mossy venture]

12700kf has no place being paired with anything below a 3080 for gaming

[little osprey]

That crap gave me PTSD when I was puttiNg it in my nephews board and I thought I heard it crack

[urban trellis]

lol

[mossy venture]

Any game that's cpu heavy can run on a potato

[worn wave]

What?

You mean LGA? Land Grid Array?

[mossy venture]

Val, csgo, overwatch can even run on a fairly old pc

[little osprey]

The half circle pins yes

LGA1700

[mossy venture]

12700kf makes no sense to pair with a 3060 for a gaming build

[urban trellis]

if ur playing cyberpunk or anything thats gpu heavy yea go for 3070/3080

[urban trellis]

forgot to change gpu lol

[worn wave]

Oh you mean the half circle plastic things? Those are just to align a CPU into a LGA socket.

[mossy venture]

Nearly all games that are intensive are gpu intensive

12700kf also useless if not ocing, better to get a 12700f with an ak620 and b660 mag mortar

[little osprey]

That crap gave me ptsd putting in my nephews board cause I wouldve had to buy new if didnt work xD

[mossy venture]

G6 850 is a better psu and cheaper

[urban trellis]

boost clocks are better

[mossy venture]

Case I'd do g360a, but thays more an opinion

[desert gulch]

which is fixed by removing PL

[mossy venture]

No they are not

[desert gulch]

no difference

[mossy venture]

12700f and 12700k/kf are identical

[desert gulch]

*after removing PL

[urban trellis]

theres many factors lol

[mossy venture]

Still would never pair a 12700f with a 3060 unless it's for a workstation

[urban trellis]

if u tell me what game ur playing, ocing or not ill make u a good build

[desert gulch]

the boost clock diff is just fixed by removing pl

thats it

simple bios setting

[urban trellis]

ah

[mossy venture]

People play more than one game

[urban trellis]

games

[mossy venture]

And games are more gpu heavy than cpu heavy

[urban trellis]

again... depends on the game

[mossy venture]

Therefore, that budget is better spent on a 12400f and 3080

My guy

Games, plural

As a whole

In games where it matters

The gpu is more important

[urban trellis]

still depends on what game(s) you play

[mossy venture]

Cpu heavy games like csgo and vslorant can get 240fps on a 12400f

MY GUY

Ok

[urban trellis]

lol

[mossy venture]

Like talking to a brick wall

Istg

[urban trellis]

whats a 3080 gonna do in a game like val tho

[little osprey]

Those arent supposed to be on the board?

[mossy venture]

DUDE

did you read ANY of what I said

[worn wave]

Yes, they are supposed to be on the socket. They are used to help align a CPU into a LGA socket.

[little osprey]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah that's not a pin

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nn3m3y

Much better build for gaming

[little osprey]

They're not golden ballpins?

[urban trellis]

depends on the game

lol 20 dollar cooler

cpu gonna be tweakin

[mossy venture]

Price doesn't equal performance

That cooler is more than fine for a 12400

Don't talk about crap you dont know about

[obsidian wigeon]

that cooler is good for a 12400

[urban trellis]

90 dollar 3200 mhz cl 16 ram?

[mossy venture]

Yes?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's 32 gigs

[urban trellis]

y not go for a 60 dollar kit if ur gonna get that anyways

[obsidian wigeon]

not 16

[mossy venture]

It's 32gb my guy

[urban trellis]

oohh

whats 32 gigs gonna do for u

[obsidian wigeon]

well gives more room

[urban trellis]

spend 10 more dollars on a faster kit

[obsidian wigeon]

for things

[mossy venture]

This conversation is giving me brain aids

[urban trellis]

who uses more than 16 gb at once lol

with a 12400f

[mossy venture]

Foxy I cannot handle this at midnight

Can you deal with this

[obsidian wigeon]

16 gigs is i would say a min with a build that caliber

it's got a 3080 for god's sake

just cause it's a 160 bucks cpu doesn't mean extra ram doesn't benefit it

[mossy venture]

He wanted to suggest 12700kf and 3060 for gaming

[urban trellis]

A 1200F

[little osprey]

Higher GPU and frames requires higher RAM

[urban trellis]

12400F

[mossy venture]

12400f is enough for a 3090 ti

[obsidian wigeon]

yes but 12400f performs like 5600x

[mossy venture]

Without bottlenecking it

[urban trellis]

doesnt require 32 gb ram lol

[obsidian wigeon]

so what's your point

[little osprey]

For example 4K takes double 1080p ram

[obsidian wigeon]

and you don't need 12700kf

[halcyon totem]

As you get closer to maximum memory usage (past 70%) latency goes up IIRC

[mossy venture]

He has the "i5 stinky" mindset

[obsidian wigeon]

downgrading gpu just to get better cpu is stupid mindset

[urban trellis]

again depends on what ur gonna play

[potent portal]

For around 10k https://hk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WvH8jZ
About 16k https://hk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MKCF4s

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f has the power to handle even a 3090

with higher res

[urban trellis]

yea ik

[little osprey]

Bro 10k is alot to spend on a pc

[urban trellis]

depends what ur gonna play

[urban trellis]

not usd

[obsidian wigeon]

32 gigs isn't useless

[potent portal]

10k HKD

[mossy venture]

It's not usd or cad

[little osprey]

Oh

[halcyon totem]

Yeah most my games are cpu/memory hungry. Didn't see much change from 1060 6gb to 3080 till i changed out my ram.

[mossy venture]

Any game that is cpu heavy is not demanding

THEREFORE

[obsidian wigeon]

16 gigs won't also last long from now tbh

[mossy venture]

It is better to get a better gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

32 gigs is more worthwhile

[little osprey]

People who spend over 3k on gaming pcs for mostly looks its just like what

[obsidian wigeon]

you're gonna have to pay more when 16 isn't enough

[mossy venture]

I dont know how many times I need to explain this to you

[obsidian wigeon]

especially when ddr4 goes outta production

[urban trellis]

bro

[mossy venture]

Considering 2k gets you 3080 12gb and 12700f, anything over 2k

[little osprey]

True

[urban trellis]

bro idc man do whatever

[little osprey]

Though I prefer AMD

[mossy venture]

👍

[little osprey]

So 2.5k

[obsidian wigeon]

there we go

[mossy venture]

That

[urban trellis]

all depends on the game u play

[mossy venture]

Ok

[mossy venture]

HOW MANY TIMES

[urban trellis]

BRO

[mossy venture]

Cpu focused games

Are not heavy

So

[urban trellis]

THEN GO PLAY CSGO ON A 3770k

[mossy venture]

They do not require a 12700kf

[mossy venture]

Me when I dont listen to a conversation

[obsidian wigeon]

can we calm lol, it's going nowhere when there's actually more people who agrees to one knowledge more than another

[little osprey]

The heaviest game on CPU I played was a dying game

[obsidian wigeon]

your experience doesn't translate to other's use case

[mossy venture]

The heaviest cpu focused game I know of is overwatch

And is not heavy at all

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f can handle every single games in the world rn

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[obsidian wigeon]

12700kf just needlessly adds cost

[mossy venture]

A 12700kf and 3060 makes no sense together

[little osprey]

If you ever wasted your time on lost ark its boot up and close is pretty heavy cpu load aswell as midgame

[mossy venture]

12700f and 3080, sure

[obsidian wigeon]

12700f would be better deal

[mossy venture]

Go for it

[obsidian wigeon]

or 12600kf

both good options

[mossy venture]

But a 12700 and 3060 is stupid for gaming

[urban trellis]

like i said forgot to change gpu

I would have gone for 12600kf + better gpu

theres many factors on what a person gonna do

[mossy venture]

12400 games nearly the same as the 12600kf

[urban trellis]

if ur gonna oc then 12600kf

if your not gonna the 12400f

easy

[mossy venture]

Only times it'll fall behind is if the 12600kf is oced, or if they're running a lot of stuff at once

There's more between the 12600kf and 12400 than just being able to oc

[obsidian wigeon]

ocing has no real gains these days for cpu

[mossy venture]

It has 4 e cores

[potent portal]

12600k(f) is just better at multitasking and running background tasks

[obsidian wigeon]

doing gpu oc is more noticeable of a change

combined with ram oc

unless you're chasing points

[urban trellis]

cpu oc does do a lot

[mossy venture]

K

[potent portal]

lol ok

[urban trellis]

if ur playing cyberpunk ofc not

[obsidian wigeon]

it doesn't do a lot these days lol

[mossy venture]

At this point I think he's just dead set on disagreeing with everything that's fact and not opinionated

[obsidian wigeon]

back then cpus weren't pushed as hard as they are today from factory

they're already very close to their limits for stable daily speeds

[urban trellis]

Bro I agree with the build u made if the person isnt gonna oc and plays gpu heavy games

[obsidian wigeon]

with some exceptions winning the lottery

[mossy venture]

I guarantee you you wouldn't see a noticeable difference between a 12600kf stock and 3090, and a 12600kf oced as far as it can go and a 3090

maybe improvements in the 1% lows, but that would mainly be ram oc that improves that

[obsidian wigeon]

you can also just bump up power limit for 12400f

then you're near 12600kf

[mossy venture]

Oh wait foxy, remember you need a tower cooler for the 12400

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

but it's nothing a 50 bucks cooler won't solve

[mossy venture]

Since it's super hot

$20 heatsink won't do it

How does the 12600kf on stock do with the 214xt?

[obsidian wigeon]

um

toasty

[mossy venture]

Was being sarcastic

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[mossy venture]

Figured

Clc 280 is still $60 in the US though

[obsidian wigeon]

ak620 would work well on it

or that

[mossy venture]

So great choice for a 12600kf or 12700f/k

[obsidian wigeon]

the clc needs some new fans if you want em more silent tho

[mossy venture]

Yeye

I'm going to be grabbing a 5 pack of p14s, and use the extras for my p360a

[potent portal]

Or just limit the stock fans to under 70% so they don't go over 2k rpm

[mossy venture]

For the whole rebuild I just need a psu, (waiting on atx 3.0, I want to leave this current build mostly whole), mobo and cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

wouldn't that make temps worse?

[potent portal]

Technically yes

[obsidian wigeon]

if it's just a few c then it's fine

or less

[mossy venture]

Replacing fans also just gives better Temps

A few degrees

With fan replacements isn't it an lf2 competitor, just thinner rad?

[potent portal]

Yep, a $15 investment in some P14 fans and you don't even need to worry

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[mossy venture]

And no vrm fan?

[obsidian wigeon]

it basically is

[mossy venture]

I'm excited for raptor lake

[potent portal]

VRM fan is a gimmick unless you have no VRM sinks to speak of or are running a 12900k

[mossy venture]

Because then it's my rebuild time

[mossy venture]

Yeye, some mobos it's good to have though

Cough cough assrock

[potent portal]

Indeed

[mossy venture]

And ds3h

Though an lf2 doesn't belong in a build with a low end asrock mobo, since whay cpu would be on that mobo that's hot enough to need an aio

[potent portal]

Shout out to the MSI Pro-A for handling a 12900k and being one of the cheapest B660 and Z690 boards

[mossy venture]

I think its the same price as mag bazooka now

Which I believe has all around better features, but msi is absolutely killing it for mobos right now

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPyqhk

My old build

Upgrading cpu to 5600 but anything else I should upgrade?

[mossy venture]

After cpu, I'd get a new gpu

And after that ram

[little osprey]

I'm thinking the 6600 for gpu upgrade

[mossy venture]

Doesn't need to be immediate, just whenever you decide to upgrade

[strong raft]

Heck I'd aim for a gpu 1st, depending on what use case is.

[little osprey]

Well, I lost my cpu why cpu first

[mossy venture]

6600 would still be fine with a 3500x

Ah

Unfortunate

[little osprey]

Yea

[mossy venture]

Thanks autocorrect

What happened?

[little osprey]

lol

It got glued to the heatsink

[mossy venture]

And then pins

F

[little osprey]

Yea

[mossy venture]

Lga supremacy

[little osprey]

Based

[mossy venture]

Luckily amd is moving to lga as well

With 7000 series

[little osprey]

😔

Might buy when gets cheaper

[frank stirrup]

Always twist not pull an am4 cooler

[little osprey]

Were you the one who rec that?

[mossy venture]

I'd wait, especially since you're getting a new cpu rn

[little osprey]

Thats how my cpu pins broke

[frank stirrup]

Everyone who knows what they doin does

[mossy venture]

Where did you grab it from...

You're supposed to avoid the pins

[little osprey]

The sides

[frank stirrup]

Did u wait for system to cool completely?

If u did then thats ur problem

[potent portal]

I ripped my 2700 out doing that, bent a few pins but didn't break any and it still works

[little osprey]

😔

[frank stirrup]

But yeah slowly twist from side to side to get it loose

[mossy venture]

I somehow took apart my entire pre build without breaking anything

[frank stirrup]

While cpu is still hot

[mossy venture]

I also dropping a screw driver on my mobo three times putting in a new heatsink, but we don't talk about that

[little osprey]

You serious or ?

[mossy venture]

Once cpu cools, thermal paste hardens

[little osprey]

Just taking a hot cpu out sounds kinda dumb

[mossy venture]

Meaning harder to get cpu off

[worn wave]

Yes, so the thermal compound is heated up.

[frank stirrup]

Very

[little osprey]

Oh

[worn wave]

Run a quick stress test then remove the heatsink.

[frank stirrup]

And you dont twist all to one side

You twist side to side till ut pops pff

[little osprey]

Either way its too late now

[frank stirrup]

Also you push downwards not pull upwards ehile twisting

[frank stirrup]

True

Whats the issue you are facing now?

[little osprey]

Picking a new cpu to get but I chose

5600

[potent portal]

You can take the cooler off, then if the CPU is still hot to the touch wait a bit

[little osprey]

Whats a relatively cheap but effective cooler?

[frank stirrup]

Yeah just cooler comes off easier when its hot

[little osprey]

With pre thermal paste

[frank stirrup]

Something like an se224xt or gammax 400v2 should be ok for 5600

[potent portal]

Yeah that chip isn't going to get too hot

[little osprey]

So not changing the basic come with wouldnt be bad?

[desert gulch]

you could run the stock one tbh

[little osprey]

What thermal paste for thermal paste replacements be easiest to use without having to manually spread

[earnest olive]

man im so glad amd is going to finally have a decent socket next gen

woooo

[little osprey]

By replacements I both both cpu and gpu on 6month marks

[desert gulch]

mx4/mx5 is good stuff

[earnest olive]

just get mx-4 and dont worry about repasting for 8 years

lol

[little osprey]

Legit?

[earnest olive]

yeah, as long as you have a powerful enough duster to not need to disassemble your gpu for cleaning

[potent portal]

Yeah good paste will last 5+ years easy

[earnest olive]

i definitely don't bother repasting every 6 months

[potent portal]

6 months? That's barely a burn in period

[little osprey]

I thought it was 6 months to a year for most

[desert gulch]

nah

[potent portal]

Maybe the cheap goopy stuff

[topaz kestrel]

shampoo maybe

[mossy venture]

shampoo makes great thermal paste

so does cheese

[potent portal]

Toothpaste is also acceptable short term

I wouldn't do shampoo though, they're usually mostly water

[frank stirrup]

Mayo

[mossy venture]

were not white in this server, rawr

[frank stirrup]

mustard then?

[mossy venture]

as long as it isnt that one weird chunky one

[potent portal]

Mustard also too watery

[mossy venture]

relish it is

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-nutella-nutella-chocolate-thermal-paste-meme-gif-24395210

[strong raft]

Single channel ram.

[potent portal]

I was more worried about them using that CPU cooler

[mossy venture]

that looks like the same heatsink that was on my 3470

very similar at least

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8zkaDC-JjJ8

who wants some thermal paste cookies?

[potent portal]

I'll stick with my kobe steak

https://tenor.com/view/computer-cpu-hot-cooking-gif-16863799

[little osprey]

Yum

[strong raft]

evga is gonna be doing a decent "sale" soon. KB is "free" & I put in the P6 for no reason.

[frigid night]

How is the keeb free?

[strong raft]

notice quotes, haha. you select certain gpu and psu then the Periphs have various discounts, a couple mice or KBs are 23 cents.

[frigid night]

Ah ok

[fossil cedar]

23c for a keeb is basically free lol

[obsidian wigeon]

23c is probs just taxes

[sharp scarab]

I have to rebuild this system because the liquid cooling system is clogged up. Since I have to redo the cooling system, I decided to put a new motherboard and processor into it so it will handle window 11. Does anyone have any idea what I should put into it to make it a nice gamming computer?

?

I do have a large box and it was a high end computer 6 years ago.

I was going to add an image but discord will not let me

[still roost]

CaptMcCoy, that command is disabled in this channel.

[mossy venture]

Can you make a pcpartpicker list of the parts you have, and let us know how much you'd like to spend?

Also what country you live in

[sharp scarab]

USA

GSKILL 8GB DDR4-2666 RIPJAWS V

cYBERPOWERAX360RAYSTORM TWIN D5 360MM WATERCOOLER

CASE FAN 120 MM

[mossy venture]

I said put it into a pcpartpicker list not have caps lock on and put all the parts here

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[sharp scarab]

im not putting CAP Im just copying and pasting

[mossy venture]

It's much easier if you put them into that list, if you can

I gtg for like 20-25min, I'll brb

[sharp scarab]

I would just send you an image of the build but I can not upload an image

I have about $2,000 I can put into it.

"that list" LOL what list?

[worn wave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

PCPartPicker is a website where you can input computer parts to share your specs easily.

It's way easier to suggest different parts and view your current specs on something like that.

[sharp scarab]

Okay I will look and see what your talking about. Thanks

[mossy venture]

If you're putting in 2k, not worth saving anything

Except maybe your drives

[worn wave]

Depends on what the original parts are in their entirety.

[mossy venture]

What you can do for 2k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b8P8jZ

Less than 2k

[mossy venture]

Not really, if it's 5 years old the cpu, ram, mobo, case (cyberpower), cooler won't be worth saving

Since it's a pre built it's unlikely the psu is anything good

[worn wave]

We barely know what their system is.

[mossy venture]

It's a cyberpower pre built

[worn wave]

Okay, we still barely know the entirety of the specs.

[mossy venture]

From 5 years ago

6*

[worn wave]

Okay well, then that is massively different.

[dense reef]

What is a good capture card?

[worn wave]

Elgato has some nice models.

If you are looking more for streaming or gaming, I would go Elgato. If you are looking for more professional video, then I would suggest Blackmagic Design.

[dense reef]

Cause as much as i'd love to buy a new pc, I can't 2nd best option is to use the 2 pc's I have

xD

[dense reef]

Have any Elgato's in mind?

[mossy venture]

@CaptMcCoy#3992

Oh they left

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/schmidt-typical-new-girl-gif-18731882

[flint sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/866224830017699870/879165618602016768/image0-19-1-1.gif

[forest briar]

@full atlas

[full atlas]

What up?

[forest briar]

White build gang

[full atlas]

Nice!

[rich void]

What are you swapping out and in?

Ah nice

[strong raft]

Been fine w/ that sn550? I have 1 also but not as a boot drive (yet). If only the higher tier ssds didn't often have crazy 500GB prices. (Re-sold the 1TB 750se for no loss, lol).

Yea I paid $44. Recently saw sn570 for same price but oh well, doubt much different in reality. I'm used to an mx500 after all.

Mmm, my 1TB was $160 a few years back.

Yea $84 I recall, overall very nice. The 750se was $63, lol. A while back I had the Samsung & resold it (also the 2TB model, $150). "Upgraded" to P31 for $20. 4TB total of game/stuff drives will feel excessive being used to 1TB for so long.

[midnight pelican]

when windows “diagnosis my pc” can i see what the diagnosis is

[potent portal]

Yes but the diagnosis 99% of the time is "unknown error"

The automated tools are basically useless

[hot holly]

Meh

Pretty decent deal for a 970 evo

There are better options but still

A pretty decent deal

Nice score for sure

[strong raft]

Evo Plus is newer & better than the non-Plus, wiseguy. $84 is more than a decent price. It's often $100+. That was pretty much the best priced A tier gen 3, excl extra-crazy sales. $64 sn750se was simply gamestop being gamestop, and I got the 6TB wd black hdd for $95ish. 2TB free VS an X300.

[potent portal]

Floor screws are easy, just use a big magnet and you'll grab it

[strong raft]

Get a magnet bowl like at Harbor Freight, so handy. They also have "stick magnets" that could be swung around like Fal cie described.

[elder osprey]

I'm not sure if this question belongs here, or another channel. I am looking for a prebuilt computer with a budget of $2000 - $2500 does anyone have any suggestions?

[mossy venture]

at that budget you might be better off getting a custom build and paying someone to build it for you

[fossil cedar]

Not for 80$

[potent portal]

If you must have prebuilt https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala251-gladiator/p/N82E16883360155R?quicklink=true
It's a lot cheaper to build. If you have a Microcenter near you they'll do it, Best Buy will too but don't.

[hot holly]

For 80 bucks there is

[vivid warren]

does anybody know an alternative to a saphire nitro 5700xt

pls dm if you have an answer

[mossy venture]

no, there is not

link any ssd as good as the 970 evo plus for $80

p13 is $91 atm, s70 blade is $120

sn850 is 140

[hot holly]

Sn570 exists

[mossy venture]

and isnt as good as the 970 evo...

and its also $90

[hot holly]

It is less

In usd market

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HKDQ1RN?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

no, no it is not

[hot holly]

Oh wiat the prices changed

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3dvdnQ/western-digital-blue-sn570-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3b0c

[mossy venture]

funny how that works

[hot holly]

Ik that lmao

[stoic island]

This is better at 75$
https://www.newegg.com/msi-1tb-spatium-series/p/N82E16820140023

Some nice 176l nand

But yea Evo plus at 80$ is a pretty decent deal

[mossy venture]

Nice

[desert gulch]

Yeah that phison spatium is pog

E15t is decent enough for the price

[rigid oracle]

is a 1 tb SSD worth the price or should i go for a 1 tb HDD

[desert gulch]

What pricing are you seeing and what country? Also what's the use case?

[rigid oracle]

considering this although its 5400rpm

[rigid oracle]

idk, like $30-$70

and i want more space for games lol

running out of space on my current drives

my PC has 2 SSDs so ive never rlly used a HDD for gaming before

do you think that 4 tb WD blue will cut it?

its got a good deal rn

also im in america

[mossy venture]

1tb hdds aren't worth it

[potent portal]

For the price of a 1TB SSD you can get a 4TB HDD

[strong raft]

Yep, pretty much. Sometimes a 6TB hdd, if you're a 7200rpm (cmr) snob like I am

[potent portal]

I'm more comparing to the price of MP33

So like $65-70

[rigid oracle]

not enough space?

[strong raft]

Bingo. a 4TB hdd sure doesn't hurt sometimes, especially if storing a lot of older games and stuff. Some games I played on hdd the load times were still pretty short.

[rigid oracle]

so should i do a 4 tb HDD

[potent portal]

For storage and games that don't need speed yeah that would be good

[rigid oracle]

so what do you mean games that don't need speed

games that dont load from the hard drive often?

[strong raft]

That and/or games that aren't like gta V w/ a 20 min load time, lol.

[potent portal]

Mostly older games that have loading screens already

Something like fallout 4 would be ok on a HDD

[rigid oracle]

how about half life

[potent portal]

Totally fine

[rigid oracle]

with its... loading zones

[rigid oracle]

do games not have loading screens anymore

what

[potent portal]

Many don't

[rigid oracle]

will doom eternal be good on a HDD

[potent portal]

For example, Bioshock Infinite doesn't have loading screens

[rigid oracle]

or Payday 2

[potent portal]

Both probably fine

[rigid oracle]

o i kinda wanted to try the bioshock series

[strong raft]

Some games also just load so fast on an ssd that a loading screen can't be seen, haha. HL2 , lost coast, episode 1 and 2 I played those on a hdd and I don't recall it taking long. idk bioshock infinite but I played the 1st one on a hdd. I'm slacking, need to put my new 6TB HD to use.

[rigid oracle]

TF2 will be fine.. battlefield 4? halo CE? all fine?

[potent portal]

You just missed getting all three bioshock for free 🙃

[rigid oracle]

i already did

lol

thats why i wanna try it

[rigid oracle]

in other words, most games will be fine on a HDD

[potent portal]

Most games yeah

[rigid oracle]

would 5400rpm be a good speed or should i try to get something faster

[potent portal]

Most online games you probably want to load quickly

I'd go 7200

5400 is too slow and 10k is unreliable

[strong raft]

The WD Raptors

[rigid oracle]

so 7200rpm 4 TB... how much would something like that go for

[potent portal]

Around $80 maybe

Depends on current sales

[rigid oracle]

and i should never buy from amazon, correct?

[potent portal]

If it's sold by amazon it's fine

[strong raft]

4TB X300 from Toshiba often $95-100. However, if we wanted to do $20ish over Fal Cie's rec, https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/hard-drives-ssds/hard-drives-storage/products/wd_black-3.5-in-gaming-hard-drive-6tb/305152.html

[rigid oracle]

https://www.newegg.com/seagate-constellation-es-3-st4000nm0033-4tb/p/N82E16822178307?Description=4tb hdd&cm_re=4tb_hdd-_-22-178-307-_-Product

yooooooooooo this one is $50

[potent portal]

They're packaged well enough that amazon "handling" won't damage it usually

Nah not a constellation

[rigid oracle]

whats wrong with em?

unreliable?

[potent portal]

Pretty much yeah

And slow

Smol cache

[rigid oracle]

i cant find one for under 100 tho

[strong raft]

I suggest you glance at the gamestop link. I know it's $105, but 6TB instead of 4 and it's a good CMR hdd. It's often $150+. Edit: Mine was actually "from" 7-8 months ago but

[rigid oracle]

yeah $100

ohhh wait its 6 tb

[potent portal]

Yeah that's a great deal on a great drive

Nice find

Not even on pcpp

[rigid oracle]

how long will this be on sale lol

cus i kinda dont have the money

rn

i mean i do but it'll make me p broke lol

[potent portal]

Doesn't say, no idea

[rigid oracle]

im getting a job this summer

does that hard drive go on sale often tho

[potent portal]

If not that specific one, another should be on sale when you can get it

[rigid oracle]

yeah

[strong raft]

Yea idk, but the 10TB version was posted 6 days ago to the buildapcsales reddit page. Could just keep an eye on it. If not, the X300 is also a good CMR hdd although of course $25/TB isn't as good. gamestop and some places just have these extra good sales once in a while.

[little osprey]

Gamestop has abnormally weird sales

On items you don’t expect to be on sale at all

[strong raft]

yea the $84 sn850, lol. I read once that partly perhaps they bought up a bunch in the past year or so when covid was big then got too much stock, idk.

[little osprey]

for the atx v3.0 psu, would those still work fine with old parts? i'm not sure if they have at least some of the same connections

[strong raft]

of course. Orange marking is me saying 1 of those would be for cpu as usual. (Gonna still have plenty of the usual "sata" power cables and such of course, which go to the three 6pin ports.

[little osprey]

i’m not sure i understand what the new psu is gonna be doing different

Is it just going to allow gpus to use more power?

[desert gulch]

more power and more efficient iirc

also smaller form factor compared to pcie 8 pin/ 6 pin

atleast per watt

[strong raft]

barely, just a bit slimmer connector. I don't mind the 600w capacity, but 1 cable instead of 2 on any sub-300w card will be nice. (OBviously 40 series perk).

[potent portal]

That's the biggest change, up to 600W on a single cable. It's also a new, much higher transient load response requirement.

[rugged sparrow]

What is the difference between the 4000x and 4000d?

Just rgb?

[peak ginkgo]

Correct, the 4000x comes with 3 RGB fans while the 4000D comes with two non-RGB fans

[timber marsh]

Question, would it be worth upgrading a dell pre-built gaming PC or just build a new one? I would just upgrade the cpu and gpu, the cpu is a i5 8400, and the gpu is a 1060 3gb

[rich void]

It's a bit tricky to upgrade a Dell prebuilt because they use a lot of proprietary parts that are not compatible with standard components

[timber marsh]

So what would I need to be worried about when upgrading?

The only things I'd upgrade are the cpu and gpu and a psu, I'll probably also get a different cpu cooler

[little osprey]

i’m in the same boat but hp and i plan to get an entirely new computer

My pc is around the same specs as yours

[rich void]

If you swap the PSU you likely need a new motherboard as well as the PSU and motherboard usually use a proprietary connection for dell

[mossy venture]

You would need a new Dell motherboard, a small gpu, and likely a new psu which will most likely not fit in the case

[rich void]

The case may also not be a standard form factor, so you might not be able to just slap some other motherboard in

I think first thing's first, check what is proprietary

[timber marsh]

Yeah, Ill go ahead and check, one thing I do remember is that on one of my other dell prebuilts I was able to add a new PSU but it was an older model so that could be y

What parts would be propriatary>

[fossil cedar]

4000x has a glass front panel and 3 rgb fans instead of solid metal panel (with holes if you're talking about that 4000d airflow)

[little osprey]

Probably the motherboard, the psu, the stand-off holes for the motherboard in the case, and the way the front IO would work

Because the front IO in most prebuilts are built in to the motherboard

[timber marsh]

Yeah

I would 100% keep the same mobo though

Socket is like LGA 1511 or somthin

So i can get a decient 10th gen

[little osprey]

10th gen isn’t LGA1151 tho i thought

You’d be limited to 9th gen

Since 10th is on LGA1200

[rugged sparrow]

si the 4000x still good for airflow?

[fossil cedar]

It's the best case if you must have a glass front

But mainly just overpriced

[rich void]

Depends, but typically case, motherboard, psu

[timber marsh]

Case shouldnt be an issue nor motherboard cuz im only switching out the cpu so same socket

main issue would be PSU

[cunning spade]

can anybody build a better PC then this and my budget is 1500 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zxPj2m

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2sw8jZ

[cunning spade]

Thanks ill have to look at it first tho

[mossy venture]

Might be able to do a 3080 instead of the 6800xt, if you wanted to

[cunning spade]

So if i buy all of this stuff and biuld it it would work perfect

[mossy venture]

Yep

[cunning spade]

and i would not have to buy anything else

[mossy venture]

Otherwise I wouldnt suggest it

[cunning spade]

ok

[mossy venture]

Are you using ethernet?

[cunning spade]

yea

[mossy venture]

Ok cool

[cunning spade]

thanks

[mossy venture]

Np

[cunning spade]

ill have to show you a pick once i biuld it all

[mossy venture]

I'll look forwards to it

[cunning spade]

ok thanks

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[mossy venture]

Pato approved, pog

[rich void]

If you swap PSUs but the power connector on the motherboard is proprietary you have to switch the motherboard too and so go the dominoes

[cunning spade]

@mossy venture how much of thoes fans will i neeed

[mossy venture]

There's I believe 3 fans that come with the case, you could get some p12s if you want more

[cunning spade]

ID-COOLING SE-214-XT ARGB CPU Cooler 4 Heatpipes CPU Air Cooler Addressable RGB Light Sync with Motherboard(5V 3-PIN Connector) CPU Fan for Intel/AMD, LGA 1700 Compatible https://a.co/d/eWclnGS

[mossy venture]

That's a heatsink for the cpu

[cunning spade]

you put thoes in the biuld

[mossy venture]

Only one

[cunning spade]

ohhhh

mb

[mossy venture]

Nw

[cunning spade]

ok

[merry lake]

hi

i have all the parts for my pc except psu

im unsure how much wattage i need

i7
3070
16gb ram
aorus elite mobo
500gb nvme
1tb hdd

[mossy venture]

There's more to a psu than wattage

I'd get the asus tuf 650 for your build

Also have you bought all of those yet?

[merry lake]

yeah i have everything

except psu

[mossy venture]

Asus tuf 650 will be good then

If its still $60

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dn8bt6/asus-tuf-gaming-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-650b

[mossy venture]

Oh wait, I guess I should've asked if you live in the US

[merry lake]

what ab this one. someone in my area has it on offerup

https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/power-supplies/products/cooler-master-v650-gold-v2-white-edition-power-supply-mpy-650v-agbag-us/277493.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=feeds&utm_campaign=%24PLA_%24NB_MNFR_PC_Cooler+Master+Co&utm_id=16244984082&gclid=CjwKCAjwk_WVBhBZEiwAUHQCmfTa9QDSqvx1PNHB_I32yg_6UscRAJhehEKmQon6-Lpj3_KExMz0ARoCezsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

yes i’m in US

[mossy venture]

I would never touch a used psu personally

[merry lake]

it’s still boxed and has wrapping

[mossy venture]

How much is it?

[merry lake]

$80

[mossy venture]

Not really worth it

Do you want it to be white?

[merry lake]

i think i need the psu that has the cables separate that’s why

[still roost]

camljh#0007 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[merry lake]

i have a shat psu right now that only has 3 cables like the one you sent

it can’t connect to my mobo bc it doesn’t have the right connector

[mossy venture]

@fossil cedar good modular psu to buy atm for the above mentioned list? I know there's some evga ones that are fine to buy right now but I forget which ones are decent

[mossy venture]

The asus tuf 650 will have all of the connectors you need, but if you want modular then pato will probably have a recommendation

And do you want it to be white, or is black fine?

[merry lake]

yes modular that’s what i want

no preference

something that works

i just got the nzxt h510i case that’s white

[mossy venture]

Oh...

[merry lake]

like i have everything already put together i just need the psu 😹😹

[mossy venture]

H510 is a heater of a case

[merry lake]

is it bad case

oh no

i’m screwed

[mossy venture]

There's worse things, but it definitely would not be my first choice

[merry lake]

it looked cool HAHAHA

[fossil cedar]

Uh evga gt 650w is 65$ i think

[mossy venture]

As long as the gpu is a decent model and you have an alright heatsink it should be fine, but don't expect low Temps

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49VG3C/evga-supernova-gt-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0650-y1

As per patos recommendation

There you go

[merry lake]

EVGA 220-B5-0650-V1 650 B5, 80 Plus Bronze 650W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 5 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply https://a.co/d/2gBzBc8

what ab this one

[mossy venture]

B5 isn't great

[merry lake]

i’m just trying to get it today LOL

same day delivery

[mossy venture]

And definitely not worth $90

[cunning spade]

@mossy venture can you help me w something in like 20 min

[mossy venture]

Check if the g6 750 is same day

[mossy venture]

I'm clocking into work in 10 minutes

So probably not

If you dm me it I can help you on my break, or say it here and someone else can help you

[cunning spade]

oh ok when do you get out of work

[mossy venture]

Someone else will be able to help you before my break

And there's plenty of people here more knowledgeable than I am

[cunning spade]

ok

[mossy venture]

If you check #cases-psu-and-cooling pins, any psu on the A or B tier sections that are 650w or higher will be good to use. If it takes an extra day to ship, then it takes an extra day to ship

But psu is arguably the most important part of your build

Get a bad one, and your build could end up dead

Though you'd have to try hard to get that bad of a psu

Ie Thermaltake smart or corsair cv 450/550

Or old gigabyte pgm

[merry lake]

ok cool i appreciate the help bro

@mossy venture what ab corsair rm850? can get it for $70 unused lol

or is that overkill

[mossy venture]

That's fine if you can get it for that price

[eager drum]

Gigabite eagle 3060 or evga 3060?

Opinions?

[obsidian wigeon]

which evga

[potent portal]

Whichever is cheaper probably, cooler design doesn't matter much for a 3060

[eager drum]

2 fan evga black

[obsidian wigeon]

but honestly

like falcie said

[eager drum]

Cool getting that gigabite then lol it’s 10$ cheaper rn

[south kite]

Gigabyte has a backplate so if it’s cheaper that’s the move

[obsidian wigeon]

backplate adds nothing tbh, other than extra protection to the pcb for a 3060

[south kite]

It adds you not seeing the ugly bare pcb lol. The point was for the same price or cheaper there’s no reason to get a card without one.

[mossy venture]

I'd get a 6600 over a 3060 atm, considering there's one for $260 after a $15 mir

Though they didn't say if they're in the US or not

[fossil cedar]

6600xt*

[mossy venture]

But 6600 at $260

Cheapest 6600xt is $100 more

[fossil cedar]

Well 275 because mirs are just a bonus imo

But 6600xt is a bit better but 6600 deff best value

[merry lake]

hi

i can’t send pics

i need halp

@fossil cedar @mossy venture

[fossil cedar]

You need to talk first

When your name turns green you can

[merry lake]

hahahah idk if i’m connecting my gpu correctly to my psu

[fossil cedar]

They're all keyed to go in one way only

[merry lake]

yeah but the psu cables i have don’t match up with the gpu. like it’s 2 8pin connectors and the 3070 has a 8pin and a 6pin

[desert gulch]

There should be a 6+2 that's stuck together to form an 8

That you're able to take apart

[merry lake]

this one

and this one

all are 8pin but im unsure which to connect to the 3070

[frank stirrup]

pic 1

you can clearly see the split

theres your 6+2

dont plug in the +2

[merry lake]

so connected that to the 3070 like this?

[desert gulch]

The only thing to watch for, do not plug a 6+2 or anything labeled "pcie" or "GPU" in to the motherboard for the CPU power

[merry lake]

it just looks funny so i wasn’t sure if that’s right

[desert gulch]

Looks fine

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[merry lake]

ok so then i would only need to plug in the vga1 slot

[frank stirrup]

personally wouldnt have the extra 2 pins going in the gpu

have em sittinfg on top

[merry lake]

i pushed it back like that

[frank stirrup]

yeah works

[merry lake]

where does this go? it says to plug into psu

/

[frank stirrup]

its not called a vga slot btw its all just pcie

[frank stirrup]

sata power

[forest briar]

You need the sata connector from the PSU to that sata connector

[merry lake]

god am i dumb

[forest briar]

This guy

[merry lake]

i got it awesome

and then the peripheals? what does that plug into tf

[cunning spade]

@mossy venture are you on break

[forest briar]

Peripherals such as?

[merry lake]

these guys

[forest briar]

Those are molex

[olive cypress]

molex

[frank stirrup]

u can ignore molex

[olive cypress]

worse connector ever

[frank stirrup]

Connector was fine

[merry lake]

lol thank you guys

[olive cypress]

pins never align

[forest briar]

Skill issue

[forest briar]

If you have no molex you don’t need those

Cool with modular PSUs you only connect what you need

[mossy venture]

No but I'm here

[forest briar]

If you don’t need it put it in the box for a rainy day

[mossy venture]

Responses may be delayed

Other people can help though, im not the only one who knows what they're doing here

Plenty of others do

[merry lake]

does that look fine?

[frank stirrup]

How dare you

[mossy venture]

[frank stirrup]

Removed from friends list

[mossy venture]

Removed from life list

[frank stirrup]

Nooooo

[flint sapphire]

Oh god molex

[meager dew]

@frigid night #build-pics message wait whats the name of that resource display

thats super cool

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/RTdniu3gn3Y

[merry lake]

this is under boot

how do i fix?

i moved over my nvme and hdd to this new motherboard

would i need to reinstall windows

[forest briar]

Is windows on NVME ?

[merry lake]

yeah it is

[forest briar]

Yes you do

[merry lake]

okay how would i do that KEKW

[little osprey]

move it back and back up your files first at least

[merry lake]

there was nothing important

just games

id just need to install it to a usb right

[forest briar]

Download the windows disc media to a USB yeah

If you still have your key you can reuse the key to load it

[meager dew]

thanks!!

[hot cipher]

hey guys. I need two 2tb gen 4 PCIe SSD cards for my laptop. I can't seem to locate any sticks that will for sure fit in my new machine. hoping for some suggestions and appreciate your help ahead of time. here is a link to the laptop: https://www.newegg.com/titanium-blue-msi-ge-series-raider-ge76-12ugs-033ca-gaming/p/N82E16834156133?Item=9SIAFVFHCE3271&Description=GE76&cm_re=GE76-_-9SIAFVFHCE3271-_-Product&quicklink=true

[merry lake]

so my nvme doesn’t show on this

did i connect it wrong?

[forest briar]

Go into the bios/Uefi and see if it recognizes the drive

[strong raft]

Remove the cover(s) & just confirm if you can use normal 80mm long ssds or not. 2 slots for sure, but msi spec page doesn't say much else

[merry lake]

it doesn’t

[forest briar]

Try a different m.2 drive. If not your NVME has to be reformatted

Basically wiped and reformatted

[forest briar]

Does it show under sata?

Or pcie?

[merry lake]

my 1tb shows under sata

[forest briar]

Ok so you need to reformat and wipe the NVME drive

[forest briar]

I’m not sure the best way to do that

[merry lake]

that’s what i was trying to do here

[potent portal]

If it's not showing in bios there's either a bad connection or bad settings

[strong raft]

Windows install formats a drive btw. --- camljh, also during windows install only have the single m.2 ssd installed just to be safe.

[spring hedge]

can someone send me a rtx 3080 12gb for the best price possible

[potent portal]

$760 after code on page https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932459

Why 12gb though

[patent oasis]

I neee build help

[merry lake]

should i try a different m.2 slot

[still roost]

VintageGoose#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[forest briar]

For real

Worth a SHOT

S H O T

[strong raft]

Lol we have 2 of those mustache keke emotes

[patent oasis]

I need help reapplying the heatsink to my m.2 slot

I placed the locker in now where does the screw to the sink go?

[fossil cedar]

Maybe they should try taking a crap

[fossil cedar]

Probably on the thing that says 110 beside it

[fossil cedar]

Oh new board

Uhh how was it when you got it?

And manual check?

[patent oasis]

https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/mb/MAGB660MMORTARWIFIDDR4_MAGB660MMORTARDDR4.pdf

[fossil cedar]

Flip it so the screw is on opposite side as in vid

[patent oasis]

Ohh

[fossil cedar]

No

Other type of flip

[patent oasis]

That type of flip?

Bruh the manual wasted my time

I didnt even have to do anything extra

[strong raft]

Somethings are just like usb. If it doesn't work 1 way, just flip it. Lots of things of a pc go exactly 1 way.

[patent oasis]

https://youtu.be/Mdq8JxMBtns

Timestap 3:04

[fossil cedar]

Yes

I think

[merry lake]

got it baby let’s goooo

[spring hedge]

should i get the https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr/p/N82E16814137711?Item=N82E16814137711 or the https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-12g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137712?Item=N82E16814137712

[merry lake]

didn’t need to reformat either let’s goooo

[potent portal]

You don't want the ventus unless you like running it at 95C

Cheapo aluminum heatsink

[spring hedge]

so i should get the other one

[potent portal]

The gigabyte one? Yeah, it's highly unlikely you need the 12gb

The cheaper 10gb is the way to go

[spring hedge]

i dont have a gigabyte

[potent portal]

This one

[fossil cedar]

Gaming z trio any day of the week

[potent portal]

It's a great model yeah but the 2gb memory isn't really worth $100

[spring hedge]

thanks

is the gigabyte good for cooling

im new to pc stuff this is going to be my first build so im still learning

[potent portal]

Should be good, Ventus is really the only one to avoid if possible

[merry lake]

lol pato

i think mine might be the worst 3070

it’s from a predator pre built

[patent oasis]

This normal

[merry lake]

build done but my cpu fan isn’t rgb :/

it should be

idk where to connect that

[spring hedge]

is this a good build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3Cqhk and with the https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MLX3W5Z/?coliid=I2HDFQ6L9Q8VQI&colid=O1P6GIOTA80X&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

[potent portal]

Looks good to me

[spring hedge]

ok thank you

[tidal moth]

Love it just don’t love the case but love the aesthetic dude nice gg

[merry lake]

ik case is ass i heard

any idea how to get my fan to be rgb lol

i thought i plugged it into the right spot

[mossy venture]

Is that a 212?

[merry lake]

yeah it is

[frank stirrup]

F

[merry lake]

lol it’s ass?

[mossy venture]

It's fairly bad

[merry lake]

was cheap 🤷🏻‍♂️

[mossy venture]

Old heatsink and not great to buy

How much was it?

A $20 214xt is better than it I believe

[merry lake]

better than this

$20 unused

that thing had my cpu at 90c

[mossy venture]

What cpu?

[merry lake]

i7 11700f

[mossy venture]

Ah

I'd still keep an eye on Temps with that case and heatsink combo

[frank stirrup]

I mean a 212 on a 11700 is still not a good time

Especially in that case

[merry lake]

hahahaha it all looked so good

i mean its better than the predator i had before hand.. i got the aorus mobo tried to switch everything over from the predator but that thing has its own unique mobo and the aorus wouldn’t fit in the predator case

those were giving me high ass temps

like i’d get 70fps on warzone with constant stutters bc it was so hot

[merry lake]

what’s a good program for temps?

[potent portal]

hwinfo

[mossy venture]

as fal said

[merry lake]

ok cool i downloaded that rn just wanted to be sure lol

[patent oasis]

Is it ok if i dont secure this standoff?

All the other ones are secured

[merry lake]

i mean it’s showing 35c on my cpu idle when before it would be at 80c idle lol

[potent portal]

Technically speaking it should be fine

[merry lake]

id say that’s a W

[mossy venture]

idle temps dont mean anything

[desert gulch]

Idle temps don't matter at all

[merry lake]

should i run benchmark?

[mossy venture]

i used to get 40c idle and 95c under load on my cpu

good ol skytech

[haughty rover]

Hello, I'm new to PC's entirely (I use a laptop atm) I'm looking for a good gaming pc. I have a decent budget just wondering if yall had any suggestions.

[mossy venture]

What's the budget, can you build yourself, and what country do you live in

[haughty rover]

2k I live in the US and I cannot build my self. Like I said very new

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali615/p/N82E16883360280?Description=abs 3070&cm_re=abs_3070-_-83-360-280-_-Product not much good pre builts for around that budget, this is what id get

if you were to build yourself you could get a 12600kf and a 3080 12gb for around $1650

[haughty rover]

Ok anything good around 2.5k?

[mossy venture]

tbh, id do this and have someone else build it for you if you really dont want to build it yourself https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z2B7v3

otherwise this, but that pcp list is much better overall https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali622/p/N82E16883360287?Description=abs 3080&cm_re=abs_3080-_-83-360-287-_-Product&quicklink=true

and would cost less, even after having someone build it for you

[haughty rover]

Yeah we have a family friend that can do it

[mossy venture]

yeah then id do that

[patent oasis]

I only need my vga’s cpu and mobo cables in a fully modular psu right?

[mossy venture]

might want to buy some arctic p14s to replace the fans on that aio though

theyre a bit loud

[haughty rover]

What about water cooling lmao

[mossy venture]

thats the aio

clc 280 is a water cooler

unless you mean a fully water cooled build

[patent oasis]

This good?

Or do i need sata too?

[mossy venture]

which would easily cost 3k, and is not worth it if youre not getting the best of the best

[mossy venture]

sata is ssd/hdd power, and only needed if using a sata ssd or hdd

[patent oasis]

If i have m.2 ssd

Mobo power is ok

[forest briar]

M.2 provides power

[haughty rover]

Could I switch the i5 for a i7 27k

[forest briar]

If your motherboard supports it of course

[mossy venture]

if you want an i7, get the 12700f

but the 12600kf is already a great cpu, and more than enough for a 12600kf

the 12700k/kf is pointless to run on a b660, as it offers no gains over the 12700f unless on a z690 to overclock it

[haughty rover]

Yeah I ment 12700

[forest briar]

What’s different between 12700k and 12700f?

[mossy venture]

k can be oced and has an igpu

12700f cannot be oced and has no igpu

[forest briar]

Ah ok

I got the k

[mossy venture]

f= no igpu, k= overclockable

[forest briar]

Gotcha

[mossy venture]

but a k cpu can only be oced on a z690

[haughty rover]

What does overclock mean

[forest briar]

Your profile pic is abhorrent

[mossy venture]

all other chipsets dont allow overclock

[mossy venture]

force it to run at a higher speed, if you dont know what it is you likely will not be doing it

[haughty rover]

Ok

[haughty rover]

But the mother board you have chosen will work with an i7 12700f

[mossy venture]

easily

it can run a 12900 without issue

[haughty rover]

Ok

[patent oasis]

Should i have my psu fan facing up or down?

[mossy venture]

i think it depends, i have mine down

either way i dont think it matters much

[desert gulch]

Depends on your case

[mossy venture]

i could be wrong on that

[stoic island]

If your case has legs and is slightly off the ground, the fan towards the bottom for fresh intake

if not, no reason having the fan suck on nothing

[desert gulch]

Deez nutz bozo

[stoic island]

smh

[desert gulch]

Ratio

[haughty rover]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Is this ok?

[mossy venture]

you didnt link the right one

clip the one towards the top of the parts

@haughty rover

[haughty rover]

Kk

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xyZjJM

Not much changed

Also the cooler is unbuyable

[mossy venture]

yeah thats fine, if you want more storage you could either get the 2tb p31, s70 blade, or stick with the 1tb one and get a 4tb x300 hdd

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N16CAKN?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[haughty rover]

Ok

Wait just a confirmation is this pc better than an Asus gaming laptop

One from 4 years ago

[mossy venture]

easily

[haughty rover]

Ok

[patent oasis]

Almost done

[haughty rover]

I'm gonna be using 2 monitors that will be fine?

[mossy venture]

yes

you can use 4 with that gpu i think

[haughty rover]

Oh ok

Getting my cpu from Amazon is fine right?

[mossy venture]

yes

[haughty rover]

Ok

[merry lake]

was hitting 65c on rebirth

warzone

not bad right

[mossy venture]

not bad, just... dont do multi core loads

[haughty rover]

Intel CPU Core i7-12700F / 12/20 / 2.1GHz / 6xxChipset / BX8071512700F do the extra words mean anything

[mossy venture]

and please dont run prime 95

[merry lake]

idk wtf that is so i wont

[mossy venture]

no

[haughty rover]

Ok

[mossy venture]

nothing important anyways

[merry lake]

im just gonna be playing games hahah

[haughty rover]

Should I buy warrantys on anything and if so why

[mossy venture]

most parts will come with one

[haughty rover]

Pk

Ok*

[patent oasis]

Oh my God

Is this big thing in the way removeablr

I cant install cpu power

[cyan ravine]

On the back of the board yes usually

[haughty rover]

What would the difference be from an i5 and an i7?

[cyan ravine]

More cores, slight clock speed bump
Which ones in particular?

If you're comparing across generations, a lot more than just those two things

[haughty rover]

An Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor and an Intel Core i7- i7-12700F