building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

^

It's just bad quality

[cyan ravine]

I had one of those P-GM's fail on me, very real problem

[obsidian wigeon]

Gigabyte does nothing about it

Apart from lowering ocp I guess

[cyan ravine]

Nearly lost a 3080, but the OCP kept tripping until it wouldn't turn on at all so I consider myself lucky

I had a second one which is permanently packed away now, will never be used

Dead one was swapped for an RM850x

[obsidian wigeon]

GN lost a gigabyte 3080 to it lol

The gpu got fried

[tight sorrel]

the order of events: exceed usage, PSU trips; reset, turn on, psu reaches a normal usage level, blows up.

[stoic island]

Yes

[tight sorrel]

basically the PSU had a one time safety.

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah, the safety feature is obviously to pop

[little osprey]

nice, i just had one arrive yesterday

[runic flare]

My monitors randomly disconnect whilst my PC is running without my touching anything, has been happening ever since I got my PC but I just ignored it, does it mean I have a faulty GPU or can this be fixed?

[fossil cedar]

Just make sure the cable isn't dodgy and try different ports

[little osprey]

Should I get wd black sn 750 se or keep my mp33

I have a gen 4 mobo

[fossil cedar]

If you already have it, mp33, if not sn750 se for 50$ for the 500gb is nice

[little osprey]

I have the mp 33 rn

But I’m wondering if it’s worth it to get wd black bc it’s 100$ rn for 1 tb

[fossil cedar]

Then keep it

[little osprey]

Ok

[little osprey]

Would it be worth it to upgrade?

[fossil cedar]

Nah

Not as replacement

[little osprey]

K

[runic flare]

I have two monitors it happens to them at the same time, Ive switched cables and ports nothing works

[fossil cedar]

Try DDU, there's a Guide in #graphics-cards pind

[runic flare]

Have done it multiple times

Is it a faulty GPU?

[fossil cedar]

Are you running an oc?

[runic flare]

Wasn't when it first started happening, then oc, then reset again, nothing ever changed

It's been happening ever since I built it

[fossil cedar]

Hmm might be unlucky with gpu, have you tried DDU ing then installing an older driver?

[runic flare]

Yes have reverted to old drivers and have updated to latest ones

I've googled everything I could

[fossil cedar]

Just try clear cmos for the hell of it

[runic flare]

Just remove it and put it back in?

[fossil cedar]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[mossy venture]

So, my friend is building a pc for a deaf friend, he's going to run a fundraiser for it

The budget isn't set yet, but most likely it'll be under 700

[desert gulch]

Apu build maybe

They live near a mc?

[mossy venture]

What gpu would you guys reccomend? I was thinking 980/tior msrp 3050

I'll have to ask my friend

Pato already made a build minus gpu, 10400 build for 450

[desert gulch]

If near MC 5700g is always an option the ln wait for dgpu prices decent

[mossy venture]

So it leaves room for a decent gpu

[desert gulch]

Yea

[mossy venture]

Would a 980 ti work you think?

I was thinking high 16 series, 980 ti, 1070 or 3050 at msrp

[desert gulch]

Yeah if you can get one for decent price

High 16 series will be difficult to find for 250 or under

Maybe a 1660

[mossy venture]

The budget isn't set it stone yet, I think I'm going to try to run a fundraiser at my school

[desert gulch]

Yeah that'll be neat

[mossy venture]

And he's going to start a gofundme i believe

I'm pitching in any and all mining profits I make until he builds

[desert gulch]

Nice

[fossil cedar]

Hp have a 1650 build for like 550 iirc then 50$ for 16gb ram

[mossy venture]

I forgot about that, you got a link?

[fossil cedar]

1660 super is like 70$ more, would personally consider that before going 5600g upgrade
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619965322&urlLangId=&quantity=1&jumpid=ma_hp-gaming_product-tile_desktops_12_3v2z3av-1_hp-pavilion-gaming-d

[mossy venture]

We'll take a look, thank you

[mossy venture]

Pricing things out it looks like that 10400 build you made +280 for a gpu would be about the same price, so well have to see if we can find a 980 ti/3050 for around 280 if he wants to go custom

[runic flare]

I've reset my bios internally before, is that enough? Just don't want to go thro all the bios settings again such a pain

[fossil cedar]

You can save your bios settings to a profile before you clear cmos that way you just hit 1 button

[runic flare]

Oh so it doesn't reset that? I thought it would erase profiles too

Alright thanks

[fossil cedar]

Np

[wicked frigate]

Guys I need help

I can’t manage to fix this

[worn wave]

Whatever device you are plugging into the monitor is currently set at a resolution that is higher than the monitor supports

[wicked frigate]

Is there a way I can fix it

[untold beacon]

Boys I’m finally back

[unkempt oxide]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BF2XsL Just completed my list. Rip me apart.

[vapid jolt]

Guys is this a good build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7qF7Y9

[desert gulch]

Unless you do a ton of CPU workloads, you won't need a 12600k

Just go 12400(f) and b660 and spend the savings on a better gpu

Plus ssd kinda overpriced

A mp33 will be great and a good price

[unkempt oxide]

suggestions for that better gpu? 6600 is only 50 more than the cheapest 3050 i can find in stock and is on par with 3060

But you are probably right about the cpu

[vapid jolt]

Is my buld good

[desert gulch]

Do you live near a microcenter or best buy?

[desert gulch]

I'd change psu

[vapid jolt]

It's a budget build so that price or below

[desert gulch]

You need a gpu

[unkempt oxide]

Im in indianapolis. 1 1/2 from 2 in ohio and 3 from chicago but im willing to drive

[desert gulch]

For PSU go bitfenix formula 650

[vapid jolt]

Have it already 1070ti

[desert gulch]

So for GPU, honestly 3060ti/6600xt and above would be good

I'm assuming you're playing on 1080p?

[vapid jolt]

Is that safe and good or will it blow up

[desert gulch]

Safer than the one on your list

It's a top A tier

Doesn't get much better

[vapid jolt]

Ok

[unkempt oxide]

Im hoping for 1440. Mainly valorant competitively but I play war thunder and CoD more leisurely and im fine without super high fps in those

[desert gulch]

Yeah for 1440p you'd be looking more at 3070/6700xt and up

[vapid jolt]

What's the highest fps a 1070ti can run

[unkempt oxide]

6600 does 200+ w graphics cranked on valorant but that is AAA i guess

[desert gulch]

Thousands

Depends on resolution, settings, and game tjo

For more specific

[vapid jolt]

Overwatch

[unkempt oxide]

Im only with the 6600 because at 450, you are doubling that to get a 3060ti. I actually was gunning for a 3060 ti because it seemed perfect for me but I decided Id never find one at a decent price

[vapid jolt]

And highest resolution it can go

[desert gulch]

So 4k?

[unkempt oxide]

In theory it could do 4k I guess if you like a slideshow

[desert gulch]

Lol

[vapid jolt]

The best it can be

[desert gulch]

Go watch some benchmarks on it if you wanna see game to game

[vapid jolt]

While being good

[desert gulch]

Gamers Nexus probably has some great stuff on it

They're super fair and honest

[unkempt oxide]

4k slideshow, 8k for a if you can find a 5hz monitor

[desert gulch]

True

[unkempt oxide]

but back to my point. 3060 ti's for 900 and a 6600 in stock for 450. Cheapest 3060 i can find is a zotac one for 600

and I wont be doing ray tracing so that doesnt really matter

@desert gulch

[desert gulch]

Yeah

I mean 6600xt will put you around 550 ish on a good day

And 3060ti you can find online sometimes for like 750

[unkempt oxide]

so gpu is the only thing to change?

[desert gulch]

Uhh

And CPU/mobo

[unkempt oxide]

and I dont think im gonna pay for a 750 3060 ti

[desert gulch]

Best buy is a good option aswell

Camp out there overnight on a designated night, and you'll get a 30 series for msrp

[unkempt oxide]

and How do I find a designated night?

[desert gulch]

They announce when it's coming up

[unkempt oxide]

where lmao and how am I not 1 of 400 people

[vapid jolt]

Is vengeance pro rgb ram good and is 16gb enough

[autumn wolf]

its alright, itd be better to go for crucial ballistix or some gskill tridents, and 16gb is enough. 2x8gb sticks for dual channel

[vapid jolt]

I need affordable white ram and preferably rgb recommendations?

[autumn wolf]

the two kits i said

crucial ballistix or gskill tridents

[vapid jolt]

Ok

[autumn wolf]

they should be cheaper than corsair ram or around the same price point

[mossy venture]

3060 ti fine for 1440p

[vapid jolt]

Ballistix more expensive

[vapid jolt]

Gskill has no all white

[autumn wolf]

what sticks are you looking at and what country are you in?

[vapid jolt]

I'm in the US

Looking at ballistix

Is ddr4 3200 good enough

[autumn wolf]

specifically what sticks because theres different speeds and cas latency

[autumn wolf]

depends on what cpu/mobo you have or are going to pair it with

[vapid jolt]

I5 12400f and h670 plus

[desert gulch]

If they wanna be playing stuff like cod on maxed settings, it's worth stepping up

[vapid jolt]

I5 12400f and h670 plus

[autumn wolf]

3200mhz should be fine

[unkempt oxide]

12th gen can only do 3200

[vapid jolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dgZzK8/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k8g32c16u4wl

[desert gulch]

Nah

It can do much much more

[vapid jolt]

Is that good

[unkempt oxide]

3200 ddr4

[desert gulch]

That's just the most it can do on locked chipsets

It'll run 4000+ easy if you let it not be on a locked chipset

[viral ore]

chipsets are no longer locked

that was exclusive to the 400 series

[unkempt oxide]

all z690 are unlocked though right??

[autumn wolf]

those are good, sadly the ones on newegg are sold out though

[unkempt oxide]

or am i just mentally challenged'

[desert gulch]

Not even h610?

[viral ore]

for memory oc

[vapid jolt]

@autumn wolf when should they be in stock

[viral ore]

who cares about mem oc with a single channel? lol

[vapid jolt]

Are they on sale

[desert gulch]

Lol true

[viral ore]

but im not sure

tbh

[unkempt oxide]

single chanel... you gotta be down terribly

[desert gulch]

I feel like h610 would be locked

[autumn wolf]

theyre on sale, $56 or so. but not sure when theyll be in stock or if theyll be at that price still if they do restock

[desert gulch]

Since h670 isn't for mem oc

[viral ore]

down tremendously

[unkempt oxide]

down horrendously

[viral ore]

facts

[unkempt oxide]

https://www.costco.com/lg-ultragear-32"-class-qhd-gaming-monitor.product.100793191.html I found this monitor when I was looking at a 3060ti but got sick of waiting for prices and stock so now im looking at 6600 and this monitor has G-sync. should i reconsider?

[autumn wolf]

g sync compatible*

g sync shouldnt really be a deal breaker or not when looking at monitors

[vapid jolt]

Can you control the rgb on ballistix

[autumn wolf]

yes

[vapid jolt]

It's so much thinner than the corsair

[unkempt oxide]

Ik it shouldnt be a deal breaker but it shouldnt cause any issues with an amd card

right?

And i thought the monitor is amazing for 300 or am i wrong

[autumn wolf]

wouldnt cause any issues since it also has free sync

lg ultragear tends to be pretty good

[vapid jolt]

What's the difference between the corsair and crucial

[autumn wolf]

only issue imo is that its a va panel instead of ips

[unkempt oxide]

I saw. I looked

[autumn wolf]

looks wise, they have different heat shields and rgb, inside though they have different components and crucial has better parts

[unkempt oxide]

but its not like Im using it as a secondary monitor. Ill be looking straight at it so veiwing angles dont matter that much

[vapid jolt]

Ok

[autumn wolf]

viewing angle is much of a problem for any monitor unless youre at an extreme angle but just for colors for me. hard for me to go back to tn or va

even though its 27" instead of 32", at the same price the m27q is ips

[unkempt oxide]

I mean 95% Srgb and much better blacks than IPS speaks for itself

Blacks mean alot to me because my phone and tv are oled. Dont want to step too far back

[autumn wolf]

itd probably be better to try and find the ips version of the ultragear if you do want a 32" monitor

[unkempt oxide]

I'll look. Its a costco exclusive though

and it hits a $300 price points because its VA but ill look

[autumn wolf]

if nothing then again, ultra gear is still good

[unkempt oxide]

500 for same monitor on best buy but IPS. Cant beat costco but ill keep looking

https://www.costco.com/acer-nitro-32"-class-wqhd-agile-splendor-ips-gaming-monitor.product.100821603.html

how about this. Costco only sells the 32 ultragear in VA though

[viral ore]

yeah thats a nice big one

esp for price

i would say if you are sitting 1.5ft or farther away from your screen, then that one is awesome

but, if you think you will be sitting somewhat closer to it, then it can put strain on your neck and eyes to be looking all over a massive panel

[unkempt oxide]

My desk is 21 inches front to back im 30 from the back of the desk

is it worth another $50 for 5 hz and ips?

[viral ore]

thats a distance

[autumn wolf]

if youre working on stuff that would benefit from an ips panel like color accurate stuff or you want that better color just in general, then yes

[viral ore]

oh the one for 300 is also 32

the difference in hz is negligible

so its really just the panel type. imo, IPS is definitely worth paying for

TN just

doesnt look good

[unkempt oxide]

the ultra gear is VA not IPS

[viral ore]

if youre playing csgo and dont care, then sure, TN is fine

oh

um

[unkempt oxide]

Va not TN

[viral ore]

VA is fine

get the 300 dollar one lol

[desert gulch]

Ips better imo but yeah

[unkempt oxide]

I wouldnt look at a TN tbh

[autumn wolf]

its a matter of va vs ips, but me personally id go for the ips panel

[desert gulch]

Va has better blacks right?

[unkempt oxide]

yes

[viral ore]

VA and IPS are very similar

[unkempt oxide]

I dont want the gray instead of black that ips gives you though because my phone and tv are oled

So VA's blacks are really attracting to me

[vapid jolt]

I donts got money guys

What do I do

[unkempt oxide]

https://www.costco.com/acer-nitro-32"-class-wqhd-agile-splendor-ips-gaming-monitor.product.100821603.html

https://www.costco.com/lg-ultragear-32"-class-qhd-gaming-monitor.product.100793191.html

these are the two we are comparing

[mossy venture]

I could run cod at ultra settings while streaming 120fps on a 3060 ti, it'd do fine at 1440p

[unkempt oxide]

6600 will be fine ayyyy

[mossy venture]

And 120 fps was the low, normally around 150

[unkempt oxide]

I feel like ive repeated this a few times but I was deadset on a 3060ti until i waited 3 months and got tired of waiting for prices and stock

So i turned to the 6600 as a in stock alt to a 3060 that is half the current price

[novel python]

This me 4 months of shuffle to get a 3060ti. I was going daily for all 3060s, 3060tis, and lower end 3070s.

A buddy of mine seems to win something about once a month so go figure 🤷‍♂️

[cyan spear]

@honest anchor do you have a parts list for the pic posted in #build-pics

[honest anchor]

-Asus prime x570 pro
-R7 5800x
-Evga FTW3 Rtx 3090
-32gb 3600mhz corsair vengeance
-2x 2TB 980 pro
-WD black 1tb
-Nzxt Kraken z53
-Lian li o11d mini with 9 sl120
-1000w sfx-l psu

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4q7mPX
is this an okay build ( im prob gonna wait for the gpu price to go down again)

[tight sorrel]

is that your budget?

[toxic wraith]

around that yes but i can upgrade it when i get the money\

[fossil cedar]

Just get this with 1660 super upgrade and
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619965322&urlLangId=&quantity=1&jumpid=ma_hp-gaming_product-tile_desktops_12_3v2z3av-1_hp-pavilion-gaming-d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBTzK8/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-sp016gxlzu320bda

[coral sigil]

Anyone available to help me put together a build

[mossy venture]

Budget?

[stoic island]

use case?

[coral sigil]

Budget $1600

2k tops

[mossy venture]

Are you fine with a pre built? abs has a 3070 build for 1600 i believe

Actuallt now that I think about it

[coral sigil]

I don’t mind dropping 2k

[mossy venture]

That's a pretty bad price considering a 12400f build isn't much more with a 3070

[stoic island]

What will the build be used for?

[coral sigil]

I’m trying to dive into game dev so I’m not trying to cheap out

[mossy venture]

Mr111, are there any decently priced heatsinks for lga1700 now?

Or is it still the hyper 212

[stoic island]

v5

[coral sigil]

I’ve been doing research, it just seems a little confusing trying to understand what I need

[stoic island]

most coolers should have lg1700 brackets

but I know v5 sells the bracket on amazon

[mossy venture]

When are you planning on buying everything

Pcp doesn't have heatsinks that use a bracket, atleast not most it looks like

[coral sigil]

Now, I’m trying to see the actual price of everything

[mossy venture]

When the p400a digital is up to 90$

[stoic island]

pcpp is dumb sometimes

[mossy venture]

Oh also

Good kit of 3600c16 ram? Crucial 32gb kit isn't on sale anymore

And the only one I can find is 80$ for 16gb

[stoic island]

3600c16 2x16 ripjaws is 150, not bad

sure die isn't good but still 3600c16

[mossy venture]

K ty

Might need a diff case tho, is p400a digital still worth at 90? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxRQzf

Leaves rest of your budget to get a 3060 ti, 3070, or 3080 if you're lucky

[coral sigil]

I’m so lost 🤣

[stoic island]

yea digital def worth at 90$

[mossy venture]

Also the cooler

[mossy venture]

Alr

[stoic island]

board price is a bit sad but oh well

[stoic island]

why not 12400 non-f

its cheaper and you get igp

[mossy venture]

Because pcp didn't show it in stock until just now, because pcp is a great website

[stoic island]

lol

[coral sigil]

When y’all get done I need y’all both to help me

[mossy venture]

Alr here we go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bTpttn

[mossy venture]

What with?

[stoic island]

this list is for you btw

[mossy venture]

I know there are 6900xts in stock on newegg often, are there any decently priced 6800xts?

[stoic island]

nah

6800xt's are like 6900xt pricing

[coral sigil]

I’m trying to get a build together for game dev

[mossy venture]

Doesn't look like it yeah

[mossy venture]

We've been making you a parts list

[coral sigil]

Ohh mybad, I thought y’all were talking about something different

[stoic island]

anyways I was asking what it was for earlier, but game dev could use better cpu

[mossy venture]

Dw about it

[mossy venture]

12600k +z690-a pro?

[stoic island]

ehh

[mossy venture]

Or 12700k

[stoic island]

maybe 12700, price is high though

looking if there's any decent in stock gpu atm

[mossy venture]

Also needs an aio then

12700k in stock at 375$ rn

[stoic island]

could go freezer ii

[mossy venture]

Yeah was going to

Does it need 360 or is 280 fine

Only 2$ more for 360 lmao, going with that

Alr how's this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cpz2Fg

[stoic island]

makes budget a bit tighter for gpu but its a start

[mossy venture]

Said it's up to 1k

[stoic island]

@coral sigil What software are you planning on using for game dev?

[coral sigil]

Unreal Engine

Unity

[mossy venture]

Do you know if it's cpu or gpu focused?

[coral sigil]

More so Unreal tho

I couldn’t really call it, it may be more gpu focused

[mossy venture]

Maybe 12600k + 3060 ti then?

[stoic island]

I'll just quote puget

The processor (or CPU) is one of the most important pieces of a Unreal Engine development workstation.

[coral sigil]

Probably going to be doing heavy coding

[stoic island]

Currently, Unreal Engine utilizes the video card solely to display the graphics on the screen. Many applications in other fields have begun using the GPU for other tasks as well, but this has not yet been implemented in the Unreal Editor.

so no gpu accel, but gpu good for looking at it

[mossy venture]

Would 3060 be enough then?

[stoic island]

prob want to do 3060ti still imo

[mossy venture]

Mm

[stoic island]

but CPU will be most important for perf

[mossy venture]

Player how much do you want to stay around 1600$?

[stoic island]

Saving money is good though

[mossy venture]

And how long are you fine with waiting to get a gpu

[coral sigil]

How did you guys decide between going with intel or amd? When I originally started, I started with Amd but I just heard a few great things about it do y’all suggest Intel though?

[mossy venture]

Intel is better priced rn

12700k=5900x, but is cheaper

[stoic island]

atm, Intel is just better performance and price wise

[mossy venture]

Even factoring in the difference in mobo price

[stoic island]

12600k can beat 5800x often at 100$ cheaper

although z690 can be nearly 100$ more than b550, its still better performance

[coral sigil]

I don’t mind spending 2k but if we save a little that’s cool too, but only if it’s necessary, if I just come out better with a few better parts I rather do that

[stoic island]

could start entering shuffle for 600$ 3060ti's starting today xD
https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[mossy venture]

I'd do this list and go for a 3060 ti then

Do you know about the gpu shortage?

[coral sigil]

No I didn’t know

and okay I’m going to take a look at that list. It’s the last one you sent right

[stoic island]

GPUs are in short supply, lots of scalping.

[coral sigil]

Damn that’s tuff

[stoic island]

Shuffle could get you a GPU with some luck

600$ for a 3060ti 8gb is fair

[coral sigil]

So I looked at the list

[stoic island]

just don't do 600$ for 3060 12gb, despite 12gb being a bigger number, worse gpu with slower vram

[coral sigil]

Only 1091? 👀

[stoic island]

That's without the GPU atm

GPU will prob cost you from 400 to 1000$

[coral sigil]

Ahh ok

I knew something was missing lmao

gpu I’m willing to spend a pretty penny

[stoic island]

Could go for these on the shuffle today

[coral sigil]

Bet, and if not where else you typically look

[stoic island]

Shuffle simplest option

[coral sigil]

Gotcha

[stoic island]

3060ti hard to get through other methods, other methods involve just clicking faster than everyone else and/or get lucky with drops

[glacial umbra]

is the seasonic GX-650 and SSR-650FX the same power supply?

I'm lost on this lmao

[mossy venture]

whats your budget for the psu

[stoic island]

No, FX is the older worse crappy version of GX

[glacial umbra]

oh ok confusing marketing

[glacial umbra]

not quite sure rn just looking at what's on sale

[mossy venture]

check out the bitfenix gold formula 650

[glacial umbra]

it's out of stock on most sites for me

just third party sellers for way too much money

[stoic island]

Where are you

[glacial umbra]

canada

[stoic island]

Iirc CX was priced well in Canada

[glacial umbra]

oh they're on sale rn for decent yeah

might go with that then

[stoic island]

Make sure it's not CX-M

But CX is good

[long rock]

My Secretlab Titan Softweave arrives today, super excited!

[earnest olive]

@little osprey using a CPU cooler is also cool

[little osprey]

wanna see what i used because i forgot to bring my own lmao

[earnest olive]

😳

do i

[little osprey]

[earnest olive]

oh...

oh no

that looks awful

what on earth is that heatsink

they really said why use fins when I can take inspiration from ground beef

[little osprey]

I had no idea until recently, apaprently someone on HWBot recognized it: https://silentpcreview.com/review-swiftech-mcx462-v-for-socket-a/

idk where the mounting hardware is for it

LOL ground beef

[earnest olive]

bro does it not have a cold plate

[little osprey]

What do you mean? There's the copper base there

With a protrusion thats about the size of an IHS

[earnest olive]

oh whoops

my bad I was looking at it wrong

[serene hedge]

does anyone know how to get dosbox

also

is a 1080p 144hz monitor for $160 a good deal?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on what monitor

[serene hedge]

do you want the link

https://www.amazon.com/GFV22CB-Ultra-Compact-G-Sync-Compatible-FreeSync-Zero-Tolerance/dp/B082DNTXJ6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?tag=zach053-20&dchild=1&keywords=viotek 144hz&qid=1611067393&sr=8-3&linkId=13872f01d37c4a27289c997c9194c231&geniuslink=true

[fossil cedar]

Yeah no

[serene hedge]

what's wrong with it?

i watch a bunch of budget builds and they use this monitor

[fossil cedar]

It's 22" idk much about it and you can get this for 9$ more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NKsnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-vg24vq-236-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-90lm0570-b011b0

[serene hedge]

you mean $20 more

$180

[worn wave]

https://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1

[serene hedge]

on my screen it's for $180

[stoic island]

its 180$ - 10$ which makes it 170$ btw

[fossil cedar]

Yeah hence why i showed the +10$ off

[median inlet]

Can someone make a pc parts picker list which is for my friend. His budget is at least $1,500 but $1,800 at most. Can you include a gpu too?

[little osprey]

ah, perfect budget for a ivybridge xeon build (joking)

[fossil cedar]

T'was about to whop yo ass

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[woeful storm]

With or without monitor/ mouse and keyboard?

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar

Nvm

I think this is normal

Why does this look used

@stoic island

Can anyone help?

[stoic island]

?

[stoic island]

Might just be a small manufacturing screw up

[little osprey]

I can confirm it was used

I took off the m.2 heat sink and there was hair on it

[stoic island]

Oh fun

[little osprey]

Yea

[cosmic dust]

you get it from NE?

[woeful storm]

[mossy venture]

just got told a 1160$ 12700k build isnt worth it because you can get cheaper by buying used off ebay

and then got linked a 12700k thats 25$ cheaper than on pcp

i love people

(3k budget btw)

[woeful storm]

Bacca want me to put you a build list together?

[mossy venture]

i already did

[woeful storm]

Oh sweet can I peak it

[mossy venture]

oh just saw this

one sec

only thing im unsure on is the psu, and i told him to wait for the ram to go back on sale https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2gXgXy

[woeful storm]

All good but I'm down take a look 🪱

[mossy venture]

or i linked him a dif 3600c16 kit for 150$

32gb ofc

[woeful storm]

Looks pretty good

[mossy venture]

going off of what ive seen pato do for the most part lol

[cyan ravine]

Super flower good iirc

[woeful storm]

That was almost the same build I went with corsair 850x instead was a tough choice and a slightly different case and I went amd for a good deal but I initially wanted to go intel

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QWxnTn

What gpu are you going with?

[mossy venture]

not for me

i told them any decently priced gpu, maybe 6900xt oc formula from newegg

[woeful storm]

6900xt is best from ebay for 1300 to 1400ish but newegg had a pretty good deal for 1459 the other day and a rebate I almost got it but don't quite have that rn

[little osprey]

anyone have suggestions for a laptop with a 30 series card that is low profile and can work for everyday use + gaming?

price range is pretty much sub 3k

[obsidian wigeon]

asus zephyrus g14/15

the best one out there so far

[little osprey]

still? couldve sworn it was the same when I was looking years ago

[maiden pine]

so im upgrading my cpu mobo and ram, what do i have to do to ensure nothing messes up, should i factory reset or do a fresh install of windows?

[obsidian wigeon]

it should be fine to keep windows as is

[obsidian wigeon]

ya, it still is the best

[maiden pine]

ok cause im keeping ssd and such

i figured thanks

[strong raft]

What about older mobo drivers already on a drive?

[jagged hill]

hey i realized once my rpi3b arrives that i can separate my builds: the stronger generic pc for work, and the rpi 3b with raspbian/retropie for emu box

it's a fightstick and a pc

funny how it fits the form factor of a series s

[strong raft]

Forks, or gopro strapped to 4head?

[fossil cedar]

Just ask normally in chat please, someone will come soon

[obsidian wigeon]

well windows takes care of that most of the times

[karmic bluff]

Custom loop planned for Cthulhu's upcoming water-cooled build

Ek parts mostly, i9 12900k, 3070 TI, and 4tb SSD watercooled

In the Obsidian 1000D

[celest horizon]

@karmic bluff a6400, sigma 16mm

[warm brook]

Can someone explain to me how nvme's taking performance from pcie lanes work?

If the nvme is right below the first 16 lane pcie lane for the graphics card, is it halving the lane the graphics card is on?

[fossil cedar]

Nope, nvme's have their own dedicated lanes either directly to the cpu or through the chipset

[flint sapphire]

If anything a cpu will dedicate some resources to it if decide to load a large file while playing a game or doing something else cpu intensive… so you might take a bit of a hit to cpu performance if you know, decide to transfer files or something.

[fossil cedar]

That's the same with any sata drive though

[karmic bluff]

Would you recommend it over Canon or Nikon (used)?

[flint sapphire]

Yeah

Just this one will take up a bit more processing power cuz of the rate of transfer unless I’m dumb and that’s incorrect either way I’m just memeing

[warm brook]

What is it then that halves the pcie lanes?

[obsidian wigeon]

It totally depends on mobo's config

And your cpu

[fossil cedar]

Sometimes a 2nd gpu but it just depends on the motherboard

[vague oracle]

Look into the Gigabyte A7 X1

Best laptop with a 3070

[obsidian wigeon]

A5 X1 too

Same thing but smaller

[rancid sonnet]

Is there any good budget ddr4 ram?

[kind trellis]

Sure gskill pretty affordable.

[little osprey]

What’s your budget

[kind trellis]

Alot of thier ic's are sk hynix though 3600mhz and under.

[rancid sonnet]

Not that big

[earnest olive]

you can usually get a 16gb 3200c16 kit for around $50 brand new

[rancid sonnet]

Ok

[kind trellis]

Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GTZRX https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728?Item=N82E16820232728&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-232-728-_-02022022

$89 not too shaby, thry have non rgb version for cheaper if you on tighter budget.

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

this is the cheapest 16gb 3200c16 kit currently

[kind trellis]

Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GVK https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882?Item=9SIB7ZPGX25849&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIB7ZPGX25849-_-02022022

[fossil cedar]

3600c18 at xmp is basically equivalent or worse than 3200cl16 usually so that's actually awful pricing, you can get 32gb of 3200cl16 for like 95$ or some 3600cl16 16gb for like 75 ish

[kind trellis]

Your right and wrong there. As far as memory latency they are the same. BUT if he is running Amd ryzen he will see a very noticeable increase in system response and speed during almost every task due to the fclk increase from 3200mhz to 3600mhz.

[fossil cedar]

If you ignore subtimings, 3600cl18 is better*

But the other timings matter too

[frank stirrup]

*fclk increase from 1600mhz to 1800mhz. Also thats only if zen 2 or zen 3 because you wont even boot on 3600mts ram at 1:1 fclk(unless apu because monolithic).

running fclk at 3200mhz is very much impossible

even on monolithic apus

[kind trellis]

Didn't say the fclk was going from 3200mhz to 3600mhz said it would increase with memory speed at 1:1 going from 3200-3600mhz. Fclk 1600-1800mhz.

[mossy venture]

I like your funny words magic man

[earnest olive]

3600c18 is overpriced for $90

I paid less for 4000c14 with rgb

[mossy venture]

I got 3600c18 for 40$

And now 32gb 3200c16 for 90$, which shouldve/should arrive today

[restive halo]

@frank stirrup Was it you that was helping me find a desk?

[frank stirrup]

sure you didnt

[frank stirrup]

nah

i know nothing about desks

[restive halo]

Anyone good with aesthetics?

[sturdy crow]

Hey is there a video on installation of a hard drive?

[restive halo]

What type?

[sturdy crow]

Seagate ironwolf NAS

[strong raft]

Nice setup. Why do the monitors seem crazy high?

[drifting garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N4fYcb
any recommendations on changes I should make on this build? It's for my friend and it will pretty much only be used for gaming and school work.

[south kite]

Nothing glaring to change

[drifting garnet]

Also probably won't be getting that monitor because TN so ignore it

Also GPU will be added later

[earnest olive]

how much later?

I'd go for 12600K non-F personally unless they really want to try to run heavy games on igpu for a long time

uhd 770 is competent for basic use and esports/light games and the CPU side is stronger

ryzen G apus have nerfed cpu performance compared to their X counterparts

[fossil cedar]

Id do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8Drxs
Or thus if they really need the strong igpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RTQj4s

[potent portal]

I don't even have to look to know the lists are good, it's (not) pato making them

[fossil cedar]

Lol 😳

I don't think you did unless it was before i started knowing some monitors too

Yes, now if only i could peripheral good

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[potent portal]

Even I don't get keyboard speak yet

[fossil cedar]

Ngl just don't really care about peripherals other than mice, mouse sensor good and nice shape, all i need

Mr1 is the peripheral techie lol I'll let him keep that throne

Oh yeah because they mods i forgot they was also techie for a sec lol

Woops

Oh that's cool

[earnest olive]

no, pato bad techie

did you hear he made a mistake once

smh

also my phone just tried to autocorrect pato to apron

yeah

that guy shouldn't be a techie smh

imagine breaking a 3090

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-disintergrating-meme-emoji-disintegrating-meme-gif-21239978

[earnest olive]

@fossil cedar change nickname to apron rn

ok

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-buzz-lightyear-yes-sir-aye-aye-captain-yes-captain-gif-23922841

[earnest olive]

I no longer techie

[karmic bluff]

@sullen spoke where's the gaming setup lol

[fossil cedar]

Wait sips

I can give you techie back

[earnest olive]

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Circle of life or something

[earnest olive]

you can actually

they grow up so fast

rommy I'm giving you rookie role

get rekt

mod abuse moment

[stoic island]

Noooo give credit to like statik and nachos

[potent portal]

Honestly I'd be surprised if any techie hasn't broken some hardware

[earnest olive]

thanks

[fossil cedar]

Wait i don't think i can, nooooo

[potent portal]

It's harder on mobile

[fossil cedar]

I missed wolfgang and couldn't remember if nachos was techie or just mod woops

Same thing

@elfin flame

[stoic island]

Btw I feel like you're getting close to z690 territory with 180$ b660

[fossil cedar]

That is a 189$ z690

[stoic island]

Oh I'm blind

Thought it was the b660m Asus board

[fossil cedar]

It's okay so am i

[earnest olive]

I must drive now byebye

[stoic island]

Just gonna note possibly going pg riptide or z690-a pro though

But 190$ makes it decent

[fossil cedar]

How? Magic!

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but was keeping cost down to help get gpu quicker

[stoic island]

Mhm, just noting it

[stoic island]

Anyways tbf haven't seen nachos in a while

[fossil cedar]

Yeye i would usually but keeping down the cost

I've seen them pop on now n again but not often

[drifting garnet]

How much worse would it be if I went with my original parts other than the ssd and monitor you recommended? Just for aesthetic purposes.

[fair quartz]

hello. need some help here. i have this build and currently everything is in my newegg shopping cart except the gpu and case since those are currently are out of stock. I have been waiting for at least 1 month for the gpu to become available and no luck yet. I cannot wait anymore. Can someone help me what would be an alternative to that gpu and also it has to be in stock atm on newegg. maybe help with the case too pls

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NnvTwc

[sullen spoke]

I hate this, i move my pc and now it no post

[earnest olive]

bruh some flying object I didn't get a good look at dropped something onto the freeway

what even

I'm confused

looked like a black brick

[fossil cedar]

The only downgrade was the ssd a bit, power supply, just as good, way cheaper, motherboard wasn't actually that price on Amazon was a glitch with pccp, frost spirit 140 is better for amd cpus.
For the 12600k one, cpu is better , igpu is not as good

[earnest olive]

the aliens are invading

[fossil cedar]

Get off phone you drive, this why no techie smh

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget?

And use for the pc?

[drifting garnet]

When I checked earlier on Amazon it actually said $77 for the MB. I think he will need to go AMD here because it might be a while till he gets a gpu.

[sullen spoke]

Uh oh my pc booted without gpu, wtf

[stoic island]

iGPU?

[sullen spoke]

Ye on igpu now

[drifting garnet]

And would the crucial ram be good if he really wanted rgb?

[sullen spoke]

Im going to cmos and put gpu back in

[stoic island]

Maybe just needed to reseat gpu

[sullen spoke]

Possibly ill do that first

[fossil cedar]

I mean yeah i personally just couldn't justify 90$ for 3600cl16 ram

[sullen spoke]

Actually ill clear cmos anyway. I had a bootloader problem few months back

[earnest olive]

I love that you actually named yourself apron

[stoic island]

Clear cmos doesn't hurt

[earnest olive]

I was at a very familiar 3 minute red light lol

I'm not texting and driving

[fossil cedar]

Ik you love me 😉

[sullen spoke]

I’m texting and walking

[fossil cedar]

Lol that was cringe ew

[stoic island]

3 minutes damn

[fossil cedar]

I forgiv

[fair quartz]

gaming/streaming. mainly game fps, to be more specific csgo but also planning to explore other fps games here and there

[fossil cedar]

And whats thr budget?

[fair quartz]

<=$2500

i think the setup that i shared is fine tbh

just the gpu is out of stock on newegg

so trying to find an alternative

[woeful storm]

i5 12600k z690 board and if I was you I'd get a 6900xt for 1300 or so off ebay

[fossil cedar]

Okay 1 sec nate

[sullen spoke]

Yep that did it

[stoic island]

Nice

[sullen spoke]

Would be very sad if i manage to kill gpu in time like this

[stoic island]

Indeed, but it's working now so it's a time to celebrate

[sullen spoke]

Now dont tell forks but im gonna use xmp for now

[stoic island]

Is ok

Don't tell bleach though

[sullen spoke]

xD

[earnest olive]

O_O

[sullen spoke]

Ayy the boot process is fixed, wow i spent like 4 months with that problem too lazy to fix

[earnest olive]

caught in 4K

[stoic island]

Neat

[fossil cedar]

For just under 2.5k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PvgYcb

[stoic island]

There are no xmp users here

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-scary-memes-gif-19596874

[sullen spoke]

Uh oh

[earnest olive]

masochist gang has been activated

[fossil cedar]

Inb4 ghosty has b die or rev e

[earnest olive]

clutches pearls

https://c.tenor.com/yAgX6sQbj5IAAAAM/kokomi-kokomi-genshin.gif

[sullen spoke]

Welp i got everything setup for the first shot and realized my camera battery is dead.. guess ill play around with the lighting while a wait

Maybe get a cookie too

[stoic island]

Time to wait for it to charge

[karmic bluff]

check out my work in progress

16 fans is a lot to cable manage

[toxic wraith]

is the Seagate BarraCuda 2tb reliable?

[potent portal]

Yes

As much as any platter drive

[fair quartz]

thank you

[arctic jungle]

@mossy venture @little osprey have anything for me?

thanks!

[mossy venture]

i told you the other day that i dont know what do buy for rgb/white lights and someone else would be able to help you better than me, and i dont want to suggest smthn that might not work properly for you

[arctic jungle]

shoot anyways

[little osprey]

what are you asking for?

[arctic jungle]

you messaged me about it a few days ago

[little osprey]

You mean a powersupply?

[sullen spoke]

Got the first pics, now gotta get the whole setup and edit

[cyan spear]

@sullen spoke whats the desk?

[sullen spoke]

I can’t find the exact one, its from a store that changes stock regularly but its some kind of oak texture folding desk from homesense or homegoods

[grim fog]

What's a good x570 to look out for in the second hand market? And a good price to pay? I see prices varying from $80-200+ for used boards.

[desert gulch]

What CPU?

Unless you need the extra gen 4 lanes of a x570, a new b550 is probably the better choice for you

[grim fog]

currently a 5 3600 but its gonna be a 7 5800x

[desert gulch]

Yeah a b550 easily handles a 5800x

And will run a gpu and m.2 in gen 4

[grim fog]

okay cool!

[desert gulch]

Def cheaper and you'll get better value with one

[grim fog]

Thanks, value is definitely my main priority. Got any recommendations on boards?

[desert gulch]

Pro vdh wifi is a very epic

Has bios flashback, good capability, and wifi, for a great price

[grim fog]

cool cool! I'll look into it. Dumb question, does it have 4 case fan headers?

The board I currently have seemingly only has 2 lol

[earnest olive]

not a big deal when fan splitters exist

don't let it limit your board options

[toxic wraith]

seagate barracuda 2tb reliable?

[potent portal]

As reliable as when you asked 4 hours ago and I replied

[urban matrix]

Is a 1660 good at reatil rn?

[grim fog]

Like if you are paying its original retail price for it?

[urban matrix]

Ya

[grim fog]

If you can get a plain old 1660 for $220 that would good

[urban matrix]

Fair enough thanks

[neat reef]

i've realized my PSU fan is the main source of 'loud' noise from my PC but seems like there isnt anything that can be done about it except buying a PSU with a quieter fan 😦

hopefully flipping it so the fan is facing upwards helps

pretty sure its the corsair rm750 btw

i wonder if you could put a case fan on top of a PSU with its fan facing upward to assist the PSUs fan.. just a question of if the PSU fan even changes RPM based on temperature

[dusty folio]

You could take the PSU apart and change the fan out

[neat reef]

yeh right lol

[stoic island]

Not recommended unless you really know what you're doing

[dusty folio]

Not a big deal really. Just make sure to match up voltage rating and size

[stoic island]

In most cases, you'll have PSU fan facing downwards taking in fresh air from the bottom of the case

[dusty folio]

if you are lucky it may even have a fan plug inside the PSU to just unplug the old one and plug in new.

[dusty folio]

I actually JUST dropped a new Corsair rm750x into a machine i put together today

[stoic island]

RMx is better than RM tbf, I think better fan on top of better internals

[neat reef]

that is how it is currently but i was thinking maybe the fan facing upwards could be good for cooling cause the fan is pushing the air the natural way hot air will go (up) without it just pushing it into the top metal plate of the psu, if you know what im getting at.. but I think that is just overthinking lol, but it facing upwards could still be good to have a case fan on top of it assisting the psu fan

[dusty folio]

I installed mine with fan facing down so the PSU has its own supply of cool air rather than pulling in hot air from the case

the fan pulls air into the PSU and vents out the back IIRC

so if you aim it up, it iwll be pulling air from inside the case and then venting it out back

[neat reef]

oh yeh, def overthinking then lol

i like the case fan on top idea though

[dusty folio]

does your modulate the fan speed? I know my RM750x is dead silent in the two machines ive put them in

and only ramps up the fan if it needs to

It even had a little tag on it when I installed it saying that the fan may not even run at all

[neat reef]

i think its at a constant speed, i wish i could see like the RPM of it and exactly how much power my PC is using rn

[dusty folio]

ahh ok

probably difference betwen the rm and rmx

I was surprised when I ordered the rmx the other day.. was only $100

[neat reef]

im gonna check that

[dusty folio]

Eventually ill order up a redundant PSU for it as this build is a new/used server I got cheap

20 core xeons 😄

I found the PSU on amazn with next day delivery. Just eneded something to get this server up and running

I have the rm750x in the machine that this new one is replacing and its been running for 2 years 24/7 and the PSU is still dead quiet

[neat reef]

they both have specialized fan curves and will shut off completely at low-med load

[dusty folio]

ok cool

[neat reef]

but when i set all my pc fans to 0 in bios to see where the noise was coming from, it should have been at low load, and the psu fan was still on

[dusty folio]

yeah PSU fan is controlled by the PSU itself IIRC

and thats driven by load or cooling need

[neat reef]

yeh and it should have been at low load just in bios

[dusty folio]

could be your fan is failing

if youve had the PSU for a while

[neat reef]

just a year

[dusty folio]

WHen I power down the old machine I could pop the top on the PSU and see if that fan is easily replaceable

a year shouldnt make too much of a difference in a fan

[neat reef]

im thinking ill flip it so i can monitor its fan better, cant see it so maybe it does turn off sometimes and i dont notice

btw its not a bad noise i cant live with its just i finally got new pc fans and so now im picky over every noise coming from my pc and the psu fan is the only thing left standing out

[toxic wraith]

rate https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Pheeny1/saved/#view=cHr6Q7 gonna wait for gpu prices to go down fosho

[strong raft]

Plz don't suggest random people take apart their psu. Many capacitors and such in there that can give a good zap (aka possible death).

[neat reef]

looks good, could add a 250gb nvme SSD for not much more for windows to go on plus like 3/4 of it left for some games to run a little faster

[toxic wraith]

explain that in simple words pls im kinda new to pc building

[strong raft]

Just an example, but there's other better options too - 250GB ones are often much worse value
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zFK2FT/western-digital-blue-sn550-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0c

[neat reef]

ssd's are a lot faster than the internal harddrive you have selected, but they are more expensive, you could get a cheap 250gb ssd and install windows onto it to make your PC fully launch/load all programs in like 30 seconds vs a 1 minute 30 seconds and certain games on an SSD instead of a harddrive will have faster load screens and sometimes more FPS

its just a harddrive alternative

[strong raft]

m.2 ssd goes here, no cables needed like SATA

[neat reef]

but you will want to keep a large harddrive because 250gb isnt enough by itself

[toxic wraith]

ok

ty

[neat reef]

np

[earnest olive]

ssd isn't a hard drive alternative

ssd is mandatory in 2022

hard drive is an alternative to a second ssd

[toxic wraith]

ok

this pc stuff is hard

[neat reef]

why is a ssd mandatory?

if on a budget why not just get a HDD

[strong raft]

10 second boot vs 1+ minute for one, and everything opens much faster.

[earnest olive]

hdd to ssd upgrade is more important than like 6 cpu generations lol

if you had to daily drive an i7-6700 + ssd vs. 5800x + hdd pretty sure you'd be picking the i7-6700 + ssd

the last time i used a machine with no ssd

[neat reef]

yeh but why spend a butt load on a 2tb ssd when you can download windows on a 250gb and get all the speed and have left over room for hte important games and put not important games on an HDD?

[earnest olive]

i pressed the power button

went out for lunch

came back 45 mins later and it was almost ready

[earnest olive]

...that's still an ssd

you are literally supporting my point

[dusty folio]

I just dont shut my HDD machines down

[earnest olive]

did i say 2tb ssd is mandatory? lol

[neat reef]

i recommended he get an ssd on top of his 2tb hdd

[earnest olive]

hdd isn't just about boot times

it's everything

[dusty folio]

have 280+TB of spinny rust in the other room for data. But SSDs and/or NVMe is a must for OS drive.

[earnest olive]

a crappy little 256gb ssd is cheap enough that theres no excuse to not have one unless your budget for the whole pc is like $50

[dusty folio]

On mine, I just have simple 500Gb SSDs

They can be had for $50

[earnest olive]

have seen used 256gb ssds sell for $10/pc in lots lol

[neat reef]

you shouldnt say an ssd is mandatory though when someone on a budget can get by fine with a hdd just with slower speeds, people on a budget make compromises, shouldnt say the option they cant afford is mandatory

[earnest olive]

downgrade something else by $10 to afford a $10 ssd lol

fun fact, a case is an entirely optional component

if i'm picking between a case and an ssd you bet i'm slapping that pc in a cardboard box

[dusty folio]

Agreed. SSD definitely ISNT mandatory. But its a huge improvement for a little $$. IF that $50 makes the difference between getting a machine or not, then go for the HDD and upgrade to an SSD later.

[neat reef]

in my not densely populated area, id be unbelieveably lucky to find a 250gb ssd for $10

[earnest olive]

a boot drive does not take $50

128gb is fine as well

[dusty folio]

I like the 500Gb as it gives you a bit of extra space for processes that might benefit from the speed. I use one specifically for archiving DVDs

But sure, you could go with a 128 if needed

[earnest olive]

sure, but if your entire build budget is $100 that's probably out of reach

[dusty folio]

of course

I build from ewasted parts, so i know what u mean

[earnest olive]

but you can still (and definitely should) get an ssd in a $100 build budget

[dusty folio]

😄

Just built a fully functional tape backup system for $150

LTO5

[earnest olive]

crappiest ssd you can salvage from a dumpster will still slap hdd silly

[dusty folio]

every single machine I run is salvaged. haha

[earnest olive]

good on you for preventing e-waste

i've got some plans for some older machines at home to go into budget gaming rigs

[dusty folio]

except for the HDDs. everything else is someone elses trash. 🙂

[earnest olive]

i did an upgrade for a customer's old office pc

offered him $80 for his old cpu/mobo/ram

he said just keep it

[dusty folio]

the enterprise servers Im running wre bought for pennies.. and still have 2-3 years of highest tier warranty left

[earnest olive]

i5-4670 + z87 + 8gb ddr3

not too shabby at all

swapped the 4670 + $27 for a xeon e3-1241v3

added 8gb ram for $20

$47 for a respectable 4c/8t 16gb rig

[dusty folio]

thats awesome

[earnest olive]

want to pair it with a 1060 when prices go down

give it some rgb and make some local kid happy

[dusty folio]

the machnie i got running today is a dual Xeon E5-2680 v2. 20 processors each. Perfect for running my security cameras

[earnest olive]

little bit more than a gaming system LOL

[dusty folio]

It was scrapped

[earnest olive]

crazy what some people/companies will just throw away sometimes

[dusty folio]

yep

One of the first enterprise servers I got had barely 1 year of use on it. And that use was sitting in an equipment closet as it was still brand new when I got it for free after it was ordered to be ewasted

Theres lots of awesome equipment to be had out there

The tape backup setup that I just added is all on 8Gb fiber channel network.. Those cards are crazy cheap. $10-15 each

added a $10 multimode fiber cable and a little configuration and it all works

currently on tape #13/55 backing up all the arrays.

[earnest olive]

my storage needs are very small

i bought too much

got good deals on both and figured it's better to have more and never worry than have barely enough and always worry

[dusty folio]

absolutely

nothing wrong with that at all

[earnest olive]

installed my whole game library and it's still almost empty lol

all my work files fit on 20gb free cloud storage

[dusty folio]

time for sleep here

ttyl

[earnest olive]

gn

[strong raft]

Approx how many games do you have? I have around 30 of 80 steam games installed and a few other things. Some games are just overly complex. Got hooked on Apex even though 1 life per "match" is super annoying sometimes.

[earnest olive]

very few lol

[strong raft]

Making do w/ a 250ssd+1tb hdd setup , haha. Soon enough it'll be a 500m.2+1tb MX500.

[earnest olive]

probably have like 10-15 games

[strong raft]

Well you're doing better than those of us buying way more games than we've played.

[earnest olive]

lol, a lot of these games i got for free along with buying hardware

[strong raft]

Pretty much all of mine were on sale. Most recent buy of Back 4 Blood was still $30+, but I figured I'd try it w/ some friends (normally $50 or $60). Can't recall my other last purchases.

[karmic bluff]

Some good looking setups in the build pics chat

[strong raft]

Some people seem to have their monitors much farther back than I normally do 😅 . Ghosty is that a BlackWidow keyboard?

[light mural]

can someone help me ??

my miscroft wont open and it wont install at all and i get a error everytime i even try to open up any site on my google or micrsoft wdge and it gives me like a msedge.exe error or somthing

[fossil cedar]

You're welcome :)

[potent portal]

Try this
#windows-ios message
It's also possibly a virus, so check for that

[tight sorrel]

@long rock , the way your PC is positioned at the edge of the table sent my anxiety through the roof.

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup

[frank stirrup]

lol apron

[woeful storm]

XD

Also bestbuy is restocking some as we speak saw a 6500xt and a 3050 I think just not listed as available stock yet but could be ordered* so for those looking keep an eye out im off to crash night

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-laughing-running-80s-retro-cartoon-hahahaha-gif-12615111

[fossil cedar]

I am apron

[frank stirrup]

im bored of shilling amd

what do I shill now

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Shill the all mighty apron

[frank stirrup]

hmmmmm

apron too insignificant to shill

[fossil cedar]

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d7dxFT/antec-high-current-gamer-extreme-1000w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hcg1000-extreme
Good PSU?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[limber oyster]

Perfect

I really only need an 850w, but that price for a 1000w? I'll take the 1000

[covert vapor]

Apron https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.476e6d39add0f25d0fc0a04bad6c5511?rik=ACZvjSj%2BZrerhQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Oh, uh wrong message to reply to, but still

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough

[bright dome]

Intel Core i7-12700K - Core i7 12th Gen Alder Lake 12-Core (8P+4E) 3.6 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071512700K and OLOy Blade RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR5 SDRAM DDR5 6200 (PC5 49600) Intel XMP 3.0 Desk

thinking about getting this, any thoughts?

[frank stirrup]

get a ddr4 board

and good ddr4 ram

msi a pro ddr4 is nice

[bright dome]

and compatible with this cpu??

[frank stirrup]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Depending on country ofc, if you're in the US, I'd go msi a pro z690 ddr4 and some 3600cl16 ram, g skill or ballistix are usually the cheapest, avoid corsair

[frank stirrup]

msi z690 a pro

[bright dome]

ok ty that will probably save me likie 400.00

[fossil cedar]

Yep will be better too

[bright dome]

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC
$184.99

like that?

tbh, IDC what it looks like

[limber oyster]

Y avoid Corsair?

I run Corsair w/o issue

[fossil cedar]

Bad ram and overpriced

[limber oyster]

I've had em for like 4 years?

[fossil cedar]

Here's a cheaper kit if you don't want rgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

[bright dome]

am I better off getting 2x16 or 1x32?

[fossil cedar]

2x16

[fossil cedar]

Their ram is overpriced snd meh, that's why i said avoid

[bright dome]

I haven't built a pc in over 25 years so...

[fossil cedar]

No worriess

[bright dome]

when I first started building computers we were excited when the 386DX came out lol

[fossil cedar]

Damm that's a long while ago

[bright dome]

the Pentium 166 was the bombdiggity then

times have changed, so I might need you guys help when i go to assemble this thing

[fossil cedar]

No prob, thats what we're here for

[bright dome]

gonna buy/accumulate all the parts over the next 3-6 months. I want a system I aint gonna have to update for a few years

if I wanted to later(couple few years later) I could always get the DDR% and motherboard right?

DDR5

it will probably be half the price then it is now anyway

if I'm not overclocking what is the typical life expectancy of the cpu?

[limber oyster]

A while

My dad has a i7-3rd gen that's still kicking

And he didn't replace the thermal paste for like 10 years

[bright dome]

LOL

[limber oyster]

Yeah

And this is a laptop i7-3rd gen

And he's also military so it's been in the desert quite a few times

So its gotten HOT

[fossil cedar]

I would highly advice against that, if you get a dead on arrival part it's not going to be fun, best bet is to save up all the money and buy the parts then

[fossil cedar]

Ddr5 is still worse than good ddr4 at the moment so there's no point

[fossil cedar]

Decades, also if you're not overclocking no need to get a z motherboard and k cpu

[bright dome]

so what are you saying get a pre-built or just all the parts in one shot?

[limber oyster]

Buy all parts at omce

[fossil cedar]

Just buy all the parts in one go

[limber oyster]

*once

[frank stirrup]

i have a core 2 duo form 2007 thats still rinning in my laptop

0 repastes

[bright dome]

sounds good I'll get together with my son and his best friend and get a parts list and see what you all think. probably just might do this in a couple weeks

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ is your friend

[fossil cedar]

Sounds good

[bright dome]

yeah, my sons bestfriend turned me on to that site yesterday

so does it check for compatability?

[frank stirrup]

yep

[bright dome]

kewl beans

[frank stirrup]

ping pato or me when you have the list ready so we can suggest changes

[bright dome]

ok ty

[frank stirrup]

pato is the apron nerd btw

[bright dome]

looking to keep it under 2500.00 for a system that will last at least 5 years.

[frank stirrup]

thats a lotta budget

easily doable

[bright dome]

thats with monitor etc.. lol gotta keep up with my son or he wont keep in touch with me LOL

told my wife it was for father son bonding

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali552-legend/p/N82E16883360182R

heres something to compare your list to

if you can get better parts for cheaper, go for it

otherwise get that prebuilt

[fossil cedar]

To be fair that is open box tho

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali514/p/N82E16883360114

[fossil cedar]

That price is mmmmm

Also could do 12700 6900xt for that soo

[frank stirrup]

it is just baseline tbf

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZWYcb this is a good baseline imo

[tight sorrel]

gotta have monitor and peripherals

[fossil cedar]

Oh true

[frank stirrup]

slap on that 6900xt

[tight sorrel]

12600 + 240mm aio (maybe 6800), add monitor and keyb and mouse

[fossil cedar]

Not for under 2.5k

[frank stirrup]

you can save some cash on the cpu]

get a 12400

or a 12600

for dem e cores

[strong raft]

Haha, reminds me of having the FX 5950 Ultra & dad had 6800 GT (aka couple of the very last agp vidcards around 15 yrs ago). 😅 later on I ended up with better parts since I got an upgrade sooner.

[bright dome]

what are you alls thought on coolers ie liquid or not??

[fossil cedar]

@bright dome
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Tjj4s okay new baseline because you need the 2.5k to include the monitor keyboard and mouse

Mmm

Actually

[bright dome]

couldnt the vid be a 3060 and get the i7? later the video card could be upgraded right

[tight sorrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[bright dome]

IDK if the price diffrence makes up for the cpu

[tight sorrel]

what will you use the PC for?

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this actually
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jq6Mb

[bright dome]

games with my son and friends, we have a group of us old foggies that still play too lol

[tight sorrel]

then better have a better gpu over a better cpu

[bright dome]

but honestly the most i will need is 60fps guarenteed

ok that makes sense

[tight sorrel]

ooh yes, 12400 + 6800xt

[bright dome]

I've been asking myself about ryzen compared to intel. AMD has always been a gaming device so... thoughts?

[fossil cedar]

The better gpu and "not as good cpu" would be the better choice unless they only want to play CSGO

[fossil cedar]

Intel 12th gen is the way to go at the moment

[tight sorrel]

nah, things have flip flopped in the last couple of years, currently Intel holds the crown for frames/dollar

[bright dome]

then just as a personal prefrence I'd rather go with a i7 minimum, even if that means i have to drop the budget to 700-900 for the vid card.

[tight sorrel]

just so you know, that will reduce your frame rate

[bright dome]

I'm lucky if i get 40fps on this laptop as it is. I F@##kin hate it lol

[tight sorrel]

the systems siggested by Apron and I will give you 100fps at 1440p

[bright dome]

is that the intel one or the ryzen?

intel right?

[tight sorrel]

Intel

[bright dome]

okay, let me book mark that. I'll get back to you guys in a couple days. just might go ahead and order it this weekend

[strong raft]

[bright dome]

for some reason it's not letting me "save as" for that parts list

can you re-post it and I'll try again please?

and thank you peeps for doin all the work

[tight sorrel]

just bookmark it

in your browser

[strong raft]

I DM (direct messaged) it. 👍

[bright dome]

okay got it was able to save it too

thanks again peeps for doin all the work for me lol

i gotta kick my son and his friends arse gaming and i think you guys may have helped me do it lol

catch you all later

[strong raft]