windows-ios

[balmy grove]

trusting ubm in any shape or form is a way to make bad decisions

[idle dragon]

It's not
User benchmark is pure 💩

[spice beacon]

The reviews are just as bad, watch the YouTube video

[idle dragon]

1080ti ≈ 2070

[cinder mauve]

"1080ti is faster in rasterisation, 3060 is faster in RayTracing. 3060 has better NVENC encoder but 1080ti has two encoders so that you can stream and capture at the same time with different settings. 3060 has DLSS so it may get a bit of an edge over 1080ti in games that support it but not by much"

Quoted from Linus Tech Tips

Specifically - https://linustechtips.com/topic/1351957-gtx-1080ti-vs-rtx-3060/

[spice beacon]

If you're going off raw performance 1080 ti is about 10% better than a 3060

[cinder mauve]

Faster is still faster

[idle dragon]

YT benchmarks are always more reliable than everything imo

[spice beacon]

Ltt is not a great source for info usually either, they're more an infotainment type channel

Would recommend Gamers Nexus

[cinder mauve]

And I literally just said the 1080 TI is faster in raw and not in DLSS, Raytracing, etc

[balmy grove]

you can't quite compare top end with mid end

[cinder mauve]

I mean with how old the 1080 is I honestly would've expected it to be low end by now

[idle dragon]

I guess the best yt channel for GPU an CPU comparisons is "testing games"

[balmy grove]

or well, not at all

980ti is still pretty good even

but it's definitely showing its age

[cinder mauve]

Like I was thinking the 10 series is low end, 16 low to mid, 20 mid, and 30 high. But nope, that's not how it works. HOW CAN THE 16 SERIES BE WORSE THAN THE 10

And that's just from what people have told me who use the cards

[spice beacon]

It highly depends on the model

[cinder mauve]

My friend upgraded from a 1070 (which I now have) to a 1660 ti and he said it sucks butt

[spice beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903768190717411339/981666325866885180/unknown.png

[cinder mauve]

He now has an RTX 3070

[balmy grove]

series means nothing

it all depends on the model

[cinder mauve]

Ayo as an owner of an R9-280X that is wrong

[idle dragon]

Bruh
It's like going from 3600 to 3600x

Not much difference

[balmy grove]

that list is accurate

[idle dragon]

Just less vram

[cinder mauve]

Unless I'm looking at it wrong I might be

[spice beacon]

Yeah that's like being surprised an i9 10900k beats an i5 11400

[cinder mauve]

Yeah I'm looking at it wrong

[balmy grove]

r9 series is even older than pascal

keep that in mind

[cinder mauve]

Idk my overclocked i5-4690k can beat a stock i5-7000k (I don't remember the exact number)

[balmy grove]

that's just an oc

if we say stock vs stock it wouldn't be like that

[idle dragon]

Gpu aren't capable of big OC like CPUs

[cinder mauve]

I know I'm saying with some tweaking older hardware can 100% outperform the new

[balmy grove]

depends on the generations you compare with

it's not a guarantee

[spice beacon]

That's an overclock

[cinder mauve]

Honestly I miss my i5-4690k

[spice beacon]

That's different

[idle dragon]

There is a reason if they keep making newer CPU gen and not offering older OCd gens

[cinder mauve]

My i5-6600k is kinda weak

[spice beacon]

Modern gpus oc way more than modern cpus

[idle dragon]

Yeah but I meant older CPUs

[cinder mauve]

Yeah CPUs are kinda reaching their limit in terms of speed rn

[balmy grove]

gpus are the bottleneck now instead of the cpu

[idle dragon]

Newer CPUs already have a good base clock and you usually can't add more than 1ghz

[cinder mauve]

Aren't we like, struggling to get any smaller transistors?

[balmy grove]

not really

[spice beacon]

I feel old gpus too, in general binning wasn't as good as it is now, as binning gets better, oc potential goes down as they split the sku's better

[idle dragon]

We have 1nm but it's mostly for phones/mobile

[cinder mauve]

Yeah

[spice beacon]

No we don't

[idle dragon]

Anyway newer CPUs have also higher IPC and that's what also makes them better

[balmy grove]

1nm doesn't even exist yet

[idle dragon]

Huh? I've read that on Google new some time ago

I didn't read the whole thing

[spice beacon]

Smallest atm is 2nm that ibm made

[cinder mauve]

"There's only one problem: We've pretty much reached the limit of how small transistors can get. Currently transistors are around 10-20 nanometers in scale, and are expected to shrink to around 5-7 nanometers in the next few years, but that's seemed to be about far as we can go."

[idle dragon]

Maybe I'm just wrong, maybe it's 2nm not 1nm like Pato said

[cinder mauve]

Before you say

That was in 2016

[balmy grove]

nm numbers are just marketing these days ngl

10nm from intel isn't even 10

same for tsmc 7

[cinder mauve]

I like the idea of the LittleBig architecture

But like

[spice beacon]

Well yes and no its a different way of measuring the transistors which is confusing

[balmy grove]

big.little has been a thing for phones for a long time

[idle dragon]

They're like
BRO! We have a new CPU
With 1nm smaller transistor!!! Isn't it cool? Come buy it! It's just 200$ more

[balmy grove]

it's just recently adapted into x86 by intel

[cinder mauve]

Idk if it'll be adapted into desktops fully because like, especially workstations, they don't really need the power efficiency, they need the speed.

[balmy grove]

it already does

look at alder lake

[cinder mauve]

Apparently it's pretty good

[balmy grove]

and it's pretty nice

[cinder mauve]

Yeah I've seen that but it doesn't make much sense

[balmy grove]

it does lol

multi core can be very good

[cinder mauve]

Like, slim builds with thermal and power constraints? Yeah

[balmy grove]

while price doesn't get too jacked up

12600KF obliterates 5600X at the same price

In both gaming and productivity

[cinder mauve]

I wouldn't be surprised if they released a version of the processor that was all big cores instead of littlebig for that extra umph in a big system

[balmy grove]

Nah, it's all a mix

[cinder mauve]

Hmm

[balmy grove]

Using all performance cores adds cost

[cinder mauve]

Well yea

[balmy grove]

Unless it's server space that is

There's no efficiency cores in them at all

[cinder mauve]

Yeah

[spice beacon]

For multi core, 12th gen e cores are actually better, because 4 e cores take up the same room as 1 p core but they have 33% of a p cores perf each

[spice beacon]

Tbf that's like a good 70$ more or so

[balmy grove]

i meant msrp vs msrp tho

but sale prices are pretty good for 5600x nowadays

[cinder mauve]

cries in I only have 60p

[spice beacon]

They adjusted 5600x MSRP ages ago

[balmy grove]

hm

yah

just checked

[spice beacon]

And no point comparing to msrp if that's not what they sell for

[balmy grove]

fair enough

[charred sapphire]

Good replacement of Adobe PDF editor that’s not Foxit PDF editor? No monthly subscription base. Looking for recommendations for smaller businesses to use.

[vestal ibex]

I don't think there's one that has a free business version

[charred sapphire]

My bad so it’s okay if it cost money but not monthly subscription. More of the older buy once and is yours forever model

Foxit basically just took that option away for the most part and forces you to make an account with them etc etc

[spice beacon]

There's an adobe acrobat chrome plugin but it's limited in what you can edit

[charred sapphire]

Appreciate it. Yeah they need it to be a bit complex unfortunately. I’ll look around a bit more

[sleek cairn]

So I was told I cannot use multiple monitors and make them independent because my CPU and GPU are not integrated and I would have to use the display port cords and the windows OS should detect them and make them separate displays. So with being told that and looking at my spare monitors I have noticed they don't have display ports but the old screw in monitor hook ups. Could I just get display port cords that convert to the old screw in hook up? Would they work possible and make the monitors Independent and have there own separate display?

[vestal ibex]

What do you mean by "independent" displays? Like having different desktops on each?
DP/HDMI to VGA exists but since the former is digital and the latter is analog it needs to be an active converter, not just a cable.

[sleek cairn]

I found spare cables and figured it out and when i said independent I ment like having 2 different displays. like I didnt want 2 monitors with the same screen.

[vestal ibex]

Ah you want "extended" display instead of "duplicate", yeah that works off a single GPU just fine

[digital karma]

I still can’t figure out how to solve this issue with windows rolling back amd driver updates to older versions. I cannot use the amd Adrenaline software cuz of this

Are there any suggestions on how I can fix this issue?

I’m on windows 11

[balmy grove]

https://www.minitool.com/news/enable-disable-automatic-driver-updates-windows-11.html @digital karma

Do this

[mystic sparrow]

Windows 10 home or pro? Which is better to get?

[humble sigil]

Pro is better, if you need it. 98% of people are fine w/ Home.

[vestal ibex]

Pro has features like active domain that you probably don't need

[mystic sparrow]

Thnx for the info!

[winter vine]

does anyone mind helping me troubleshoot a windows 11 error involving the microsoft store crashing right away on open and not being able to log into any other user accounts but the default admin account?

ive tried a few online solutions but no dice

still only lets me log into one account, and at that i cant use the microsoft store nor can I log in to google with it

[vestal ibex]

Sounds like a PC reset is in order

[winter vine]

thats the thing

im fresh off a pc reset

im looking into this error code that keeps coming up and it looks like corrupted files

so im working on fixing it

[crisp spire]

!bat

[tidal lintel]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/releases/download/v12/Windows.Utilities.and.Fixes.Latest.bat

[crisp spire]

press 1 and then 1 again

[winter vine]

what

[crisp spire]

download this

[winter vine]

i did

[crisp spire]

then run it

[winter vine]

now what

[crisp spire]

and press 1 twice

[winter vine]

nothing happened

when i ran it

@crisp spire it just made the loading symbol

nothing happened

??

im confused

hello @crisp spire im sorry to be pushy what am I meant to do if it wont run

can any other techies help me

@low dock hello you are online please assist me :(

[vestal ibex]

If the PC reset failed like that you need a clean install

It's pretty late in the US where most of us are so don't expect immediate responses btw

[crisp spire]

bro I have a life please dont ping me twice and spam my dms

thanks

try right click run as admin on the batch file

[winter vine]

mb

i did already

[low dock]

why the hell is this random guy @ ing all the techies?

got a problem with windows?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

[crisp spire]

Lmfao

[crisp spire]

At least he didnt dm you a bunch

[balmy grove]

oooof

[cyan pulsar]

anybody know how to unenroll out of the dev channel of windows without having to do a clean install? i dont want to be in the dev channel but i dont want to have to do a clean windows install either

[shut stag]

my laptop isnt booting up, only get a lil dash flashing with nothing else. any ideas?

[crisp spire]

There is no such way

[digital karma]

Hi, I’m getting this bsod on hp omen 15. I just got it recently (about 2 weeks ago)

I ran a memory diagnostic test and it said “hardware problems detected”

Is this a ram issue?

I also received this shortly after starting up my system

[balmy grove]

it's likely ram

[idle dragon]

D you have mixed ram?

[digital karma]

Nope

Problem is it’s not happening all the time. It’s just once in a while randomly

[crisp spire]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Windows-Troubleshooting-Utilities/wiki/How-To-Download-And-Use-TM5

[cyan pulsar]

Alright thanks

[sleek cairn]

display port to HDMI adapter not working. Its not detected by windows 10 nor connects to the TV.

[neon flame]

Just downloaded an update for the Intel Iris GPU and windows is giving me the “newest already installed” when I give it the right driver easy folder. Thoughts?

[idle dragon]

Are you sure it is not a one way cable?

For example you can use it only from hdmi to DP

[crisp spire]

Dont use drivereasy

[neon flame]

Is there a better free alternative?

[crisp spire]

Yes

Update stuff urself

or let windows update do it for you

[spice beacon]

Also intel has a great self scanner for their drivers

[neon flame]

That’s where you enter your model number on the Intel website?

[spice beacon]

Nah

[spice beacon]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/detect.html

[neon flame]

And on a device with Intel processor and iris graphics that should cover all the drivers I need?

[spice beacon]

Not all but most depends on the motherboard/laptop

[neon flame]

Lenovo yoga, so vantage should cover the mobo and bios?

[spice beacon]

It will cover chipset, iris graphics, maybe wifi, maybe ethernet port

Lenovo vantage should only be used for updating bios which isn't really necessary

[neon flame]

Updating bios isn’t necessary?

[spice beacon]

No

And if you do update bios, do it with your battery fully charged and have it plugged in

[neon flame]

Gotcha. So run Intel thing to finish upgrading the iris graphics? I’m just trying to troubleshoot “Overwatch is stuttering and dropping frames” from my brother, as you can see it’s now quite a headache lol

[spice beacon]

Well it sounds like there's no dedicated gpu in that laptop so, make sure that you have all the settings in overwatch at low, drop render resolution to 75% if needed, make sure the laptop is on the highest power option when you click the battery icon in the bottom right in windows and yeah update drivers for the gpu

[neon flame]

Yeah. I have an older version of the same laptop, but hopefully once I check all of that should be good. I have low game demands, but I’m currently working with five computers and until today I just used driver easy. Is there a similar tool for AMD?

[spice beacon]

unfortunately no best thing to do is just update them yourself from time to time but not really any harm if your drivers are out of date, although the one i would recommend doing frequently is the graphics drivers because they're constantly making improvements with them

[neon flame]

I guess this is a stupid question, but to do it manually do you just Google the card, download it, and then manually find that folder in device manager?

[spice beacon]

nope, you just download the driver and double click it to start the install

[vestal ibex]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-131

They have an auto driver update tool

[spice beacon]

oh cool i thought it was only for their gpus

[vestal ibex]

Nope chipset too

[spice beacon]

I just installed it, no software that auto updates just reinstalled the chipset drivers as far as i can tell

[vestal ibex]

Weird, it should have detected a GPU if one existed

A modern one at least, rx 500+

And APU as well

[neon flame]

Thanks for all your help today yall

[crisp spire]

u no have gpu so it no detec

it also don auto update but with chipset drivers, updates are few and far in between and the radeon settings thing yells at you when theres an update

[spice beacon]

Nv gpu but i meant like it's not really an auto driver updater it's just auto detect unlike Intel's

[vestal ibex]

Well then it sounds like it worked and you just had the latest chipset driver already. They only update every 6-9 months or so.

[spice beacon]

No it did work but you made it sound like intels thing where whenever the new version comes out it would prompt you with that

If that makes sense

[vestal ibex]

Oh no it doesn't notify you of new updates, adrenalin does that automatically already

[crisp spire]

not for chipset

[vestal ibex]

Tbf chipset shouldn't be updated unless you're having issues or it's a fresh install anyway

Much like bios

[spice beacon]

I have SUS tho: Serially Updates (drivers) Syndrome

[vestal ibex]

When you live on the bleeding edge you're bound to get a few cuts

[past pollen]

guys can someone help me with my google chrome; it keeps randomly closing when reopening to the part where it asks who is usign chrome

[peak notch]

have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it?

start there, let us know if the issue persists

[past pollen]

yes i have

problem still there

[peak notch]

is this a fresh install of windows? do you have graphics drivers installed? has google chrome worked fine previously?

[past pollen]

sometimes it will work and some wont

ive had my pc for around a year now

[open elbow]

how to get rid of activate windows watermark without actually activating windows?

[humble sigil]

[open elbow]

does this really work? dude sounds sketchy

[spice beacon]

Don't post these things here kinda a legal grey area

[idle dragon]

How dare you deleting my messages
Jk

[vestal ibex]

You can easily find a valid license for around $20 with a quick Google anyway

Keep in mind all keys will still work from windows 7-11, they all use the same activation server

[idle dragon]

Ive found offers on third part sellers like 10€ for 5 win10 activation keys

[dawn socket]

hear me out.. just tape a piece of paper over the watermark and it's like it's not even there.

[humble sigil]

Modern problems require modern solutions.