#building-and-recc-chat
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how should i arrange fans on my icue 220t?
2 140mm on the front, 2 120mm at the top, and 1 120mm at the back
or
3 120mm on the front, 2 140mm at the top
(probably sounds confusing)
Any radiator or all air cooling?
all air
yep
Yeah then I'd go for 3x120 in front
Aight Ladies and Gents. Got my new CPU (R5 3600X). Installed and my PC Posts. A big thank you to all that helped me in my time of need lol. Much love all round. Don't know what I would have done if not for all of you.
cool tyty
How much was that cpu?
275 on Amazon
Damnnnn
Couldn't get one on Newegg that I could afford
You can just about get a 5600x for that lol
Indeed. Out of stock on Newegg and I think pushing 350 on Amazon.
^ or 11400 if not b450/b550 board
300, the msrp is way too much for a 6 core chip imo
Shopbit OoO
And while shipping may be a lil slower than amazon it's only 307 with shipping pre tax
Trusted seller?
Ye
Reliable?
Their shipping isn't the best but they're a legit company
Then I may have to upgrade later on with them if they have stock
5700x doesn't exist
No 5700x
Whaaa?
And if you wanted those cores why go 3600x
Ok 5800x then lmao
5600, 5800, 5900, 5950
It only has 6c/12t
People always saying more cores more cores, until their cores start to bottleneck
I panic bought a 5800x during an AMD drop a while back, thought about canceling but built around it anyway. Still no decent card but I like it
5700g tho but only oem :/
Fecking Minecraft logic LMAO
So since I am getting a refund for the x570 I sent back, what should I get next? Or just hold off?
I mean for 3600x if you wanna keep it I'd go b550
I have a b550 lol
Oh
I thought the x570 was borked
Yeah then use the b550
What case currently?
Coolermaster Masterbox NR600 w/ front mesh
all black
My old case is a NZXT S340 white
TERRIBLE airflow I found out later
Oh NOW Newegg finished processing my refund. Still gotta wait 3-5 business days for it.
Get the 5000d, godly case
guys, I need the best gaming pc u can give me for 850usd
I alrdy have gpu, psu and I'll short it to turn it on for now
What gpu and psu do you have?
I have a 3060ti, gigabyte 650w something. it came bundled with gpu
Don't people recommend you not to use that psu?
Anyone have a good prebuilt for $700
I cant remember
should I enable hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling if my GPU is worse than my CPU?
It's not the one that blows up but one that's a little better
If p-gm yes
Ik it isn't great but I need the pc like yesterday
I'll go baller on the next check and buy better parts either way
Why do need it so urgently lol
I need it cuz my old pc died
Man, those things are literal bombs
Yea thats why I was so worried
Can you refund the psu?
No not if it's a bundle
No
Damm
550
Sell to some poor soul on ebay? XD
That's cruel xD
If you have old parts then make it a required part to come with it
Gigabyte making psus is cruel
True
Some of them are decent I’ve heard but most aren’t
Basically bombs
Afaik
Why make your own bombs when gigabyte does it for you?
Or just get a note 7
Which is more conspicuous?
You'd stick out like a sore thumb with a gigabyte psu XD
Not if it's in a bag
And you'll never know when a note 7 explodes
How you supposed to use it tho xd
It could happen right in your pocket
This is good, 32gb ram just because extra bit of budget
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zmJ82V
Ohh wow that rams pretty cheap for 2x16
for what chip
Too overkill for your 11400 build, just use the id cooling se 224 i put in your list i sent you earlier
Or gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5
yea just use se-224-xt for 11400 lol
Intel Core i5-10600KF 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor
d15 is just going to be annoying for just a 10600k imo
ok
Vintage OCed his 10600k under a se224xt iirc
Why'd you change from the 11400 for a 10600k?
it looked better
The 10600k is also going to need a Z490/Z590 motherboard, which is like an extra $40
what about Intel Core i5-11600KF @fossil cedar
?
11400 boosts to 4.4ghz, 10600k boosts to 4.8ghz max
The "f" just means it doesn't have an iGPU
I think they're asking 11600 vs 10600 lol
11400 best bang for buck
oh
base clocks are wack
cus my laptop is 2.4ghz so i wanted a beter one
yea
Chonk you gotta remember that you're not going to get a 3060 ti for $400
Not until the 4000s come out at least
its gonna be in like 1 yr or something
Then why even plan your pc now
unless discord is trippin
@potent portal and also I kinda ignore suffixes on Intel chips, 10600k 10600kf same thing perf wise and all when we talking about perf
Fair enough
As long as the thermals are okay it can boost higher than boost
then would i need to buy fans
Not if you get a case with fans included no
it onyl includes 3
uh
@round stream all you need is 3
hell, it's not a good idea to fill a case with fans in most cases, just a waste of money beyond a certain point tbh
wait what i thgouth i need one top left
for example, all the Gamers Nexus testing with stock fan setup
those are with only the fans the case comes with
and again, td500 mesh performs quite well
see how little a rear fan affects cpu temps?
and I'm assuming you mean rear exhaust with "top left"
yea rear exhaust
as you can tell, they tested the system without any extra fans, and it performed very well
:P
so im just using 1 in front intake 1 top exhuast and 1 rear exhaust?
ok
You could always buy a p12 for like 9$ and slap that in if you need another fan
Yes im sure not, that was an i needed to put like an if necessary * next to it XD only skimmed the convo
Hi, I bought a new pc and I am looking to get a monitor for my pc. So, I was wondering do I need to get 100hz+ to get the best perfoance out of my PC ?
Basically, the monitor can only display what the PC gives out, but 144hz (144 Refreshes per second for 144 Frames per second) makes a huge difference over 60hz (60 Refreshes per second for 60 Frames per second).
@nimble fjord Not for $1500, no way.
Ik but this is the max I can buy and Ik this is not extremly good but my dad and my mom said yes for thats but they don’t want to buy more than this 😭
Isn't there one with a 30s card in it?
That's similar price?
Yes
Dang that looks clean
yes
But its 1500$
Intel... please fix your CPU naming... please... for me?
No
VintageRacer79 what you have like pc?
All custom desktop
Can you show me?
Total cost is quite a bit
Must be nice
Wow
Whats the total storage you got?
Good lord man
It's a backup server for my wifes photos
Gotcha
I dont have it all yet but I can tell you the specs
That is insane
Ok
Wife is a photog on the side
RAW files take up space
It's also a media server
XD
Rog Strix b550-f (Wifi)
R5 5600x
3070 fe
500gb Samsung 970 evo
Wd 2tb hdd
Phanteks AMP 750w
Wow thats insane
Nice
Me I have :
So in its place is a ready to retire 550
A ps4
Lol
But I still appreciate what I have
Because I can play at a lot of game with my friends and I love PlayStation
Yeah But they are the same thing but the xbox app is better than PlayStation app
True
I have pretty much every xbox besides the first one xD
And ngl I miss the 360 parties
With cod black ops
Yeah 360 and ps3 was the best ever
16 ram is the best for first pc i think i donlt know if i am wrong but all of my friends have 16 gb ram
16 is perfect but 32 is considered overkill
Which is my next upgrade after I get the 3070
Nice but your pc cost how much?
1600
What cpu gpu?
5600x 3070
Dang I'm guessing you had to overpay for that 3070?
No rog strix b550-f
Y
200 mb
Y
Why not?
Could it not just be person preference?
I like the board
And im pretty happy with it so
Yeah it’s his choice he don’t care about this he just want to be happy with what he have
maybe he thought it was pretty
xd
i've wasted too much money making my pc pretty
I haven't spent enough money making mine pretty, I've been more focused on performance...
Ill legit downgrade my parts if i can get them with prettier rgb lol
we all know rgb = extra fps
Even white can be an issue because you get just one fan that has a slightly off-white and the whole thing looks wrong
That's the problem I'm having with my RAM, the blue is just a couple shades off of literally everything else
Get one of the Aorus Master ones that are bundled with the Gigabyte 3080s
i can't go much higher in performance
so i just make it pretty
I litteraly don’t understand what everyone say🤣
i have a 5600x, 3080, and 4 3070s
and my most graphically demanding game is league of legends

Yeah, and why don't you have a 5950X? It's higher performance. Could probably get 600 fps in LoL.
I have 60 fps bc i have a ps4
my current setup does a lot more than 165 fps
more like 400 if i uncap it
and that's a hard cpu bottleneck
don't think 5950x would do better though
league was coded in 2007 by people of questionable competence (the engine was written by the guy responsible for big rigs over the road racing lol)
only cares about single core
Ok
Yeah and the 5950X has the highest single core boost performance out of all consumer processors available today, guaranteed you get more frames

u right
this is what will get me out of diamond
increasing my fps from 162 to 162
Now you're getting it!
gotta get 2 3090s as well
It's all about those 1% lows though, what's the point of running 165 average fps when you dip down to 40 and stutter in fights?
Is this build okay? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7ynHTJ
we already said it was terrible in general chat
ooh
this wouldn't even turn on
mean
no graphics card and no integrated graphics
lol
What can i use instad?
i5-11400
10400/11400 + B560
for the cooler
Reason: Bad word usage
much better than 212
This looks like a piece of plastic that cost 2$
You keep reposting the same list, I already told you it was crap earlier
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Too many infractions
lmao
Lmfao
Gotta get that z490/590 board for ur 10400f
Is big brain time
Since b560 def doesn't exist
lol
yes
kek
they might actually be 12 years old
lololol
Same with 3 it is not 1.5
It is like 1.7 or 1.8
s12iii is a fire hazard
corsair cxm is also bad
you sure no one else
There's superflower too
what model
which model
Superflower is a good oem, but quality depends on the unit
what's the model
sf-700r12st
or mega, idk
It says it all lmao
The expensive one is leadex iii, rgb and 650w
About 99
it's probably too poopy to be on the spreadsheet, oh well
I’m looking for help with an upcoming build but I still need a couple of parts and I am still trying to figure out what would be the best for my pc and also thinking about looks as well
I have a Ryzen 9 5950x and a ASRock > B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax mobo and an Enermax aquafusion AIO but I don't really know the brand that well and haven't heard much about it so I just assume it isn't that good but I want to use what I have but if this aio isnt a good one then i'm going to sell it and get a different one but I'm going for looks too
Ah well
I'm planning to slap a psu into the 1070ti prebuilt I'm gettin
It's got i5 8400 in it
Wanna replace the bomb on it
Maybe to avoid making a mess on the board when applying thermal paste ig
Shouldn't really need that imo but if you feel like you need it there it is lol
Yeah that was left over from my build last year
I just found it in a random box of mine
Ah ic
something I don't see nearly as often as pc cable management:
does anyone have any good guides or tips for good desk cable management? Mine isn't awful, but since Im setting up a new tower I figure Ill start over and get it done right this time, it kind of ballooned into a bit of a mess with all the extra cables added on later
Try to sort of catalogue where all the cables come from and where they go, and piece together in your mind how many paths you need
Then unplug them and sort them out into those paths and cable tie them
See if they plug in again, some cables might be too short or too long for the paths you chose, so you'll have to do some looping of the long ones and removing the short ones from the cable tied path
Idk if that's a great way of doing it but that's what I can think of on the spot
yeah that seems about right, thats kind of how i approached it last time, but then i add on a half dozen extra things later and it gets disheveled lol
my desk doesnt have a side panel lol
Outside of the pc is what he's saying wideus
Oh oh
like monitors and usb and peripherals
I need to get a larger desk
Mine is about the size of a lectern
I want something like a Steelcase Tanker 
like in MC?
Lol irl
You have enough room for keyb mouse and tiny monitor, nothing else
Very small mouse space too
I hope your set up have strong grounding connection coz boy
The computer goes on the bottom shelf
thanks but I already have a pair I’m just too lazy to put it in that’s all
Oh ok lol
Fan spliters allow for speed control along as it goes into the motherboard right?
Yes
Each header can power up to 1 amp, each fan is typically less than half an amp (but always double check)
Ok.
I'm not a big fan of 32" monitors but I might have to get me that new Aorus 32" 4k 144Hz OLED monitor
Oh wait, the 48" only have OLED
Who has a good PSU calculator? CAn I put 3 3070 RTX on a RM100i?
do you mean 1000?
yes sorry lol RM1000i
newegg has one iirc
Can you over clock 3.6 to 6 ish ?
wrong chat for that kind of overclocking lol
For a 3070 get a 650w psu or abobe
you could get away with 600w if it's a good unit
but ideally you should get a 650w, to be certain
Yeah I'm running mine on a 600w with a Ryzen 5 3600 but (even tho it's an evga w1 or something) but if don't know cpu so and 650w safer
true
They want 3 3070s on a psu, probably to mine
Ohh oof, bit late to start investing into mining unless it's personal rig imo
Hey my friend needs some help he just build a pc but he doesn’t go to the post screen it doesn’t give any connection could someone help?
Do they have the monitors cable connected to the graphics card and not the motherboard?
Yes
Do they have any leds lighting up on the motherboard?
Like an error led, some boards have it
Its an asus vIII I think
Okay lemme look at the manual
But what cpu do they have in it?
It might need a bios update first
@sharp perch
Okay
I don’t know how he did it he did say he did it so I think he did it
Did they make sure to put it in the right usb port while doing it?
Okay
Did they try reseat ram/check power connections?
He tried to reseat the ram but it still didn’t flash into bios power connections I don’t know about that one
He has 64 gb 4 sticks so
He tried
But couldn’t put the first slot in because of the CPu cooler
We tried 2 sticks
And 3 but I said I don’t know if it will flash the bios
3 sticks should boot but ask them to check for an led with writing beside it and get them to try boot up with 1 ram stick in each slot for each ram stick just to make sure one of the sticks/ram slots are dead
Yeah
Okay and will it work if he puts 1 stick in I think so right
Okay
Is a 650w PSU enough for a 5600x and a 3060?
Yes
5600x is pretty low powered
I have a 10600k and 3060ti on a 650w
@rich helm whats your build
Or should I spend ten bucks extra and get a 750w?
Literally just said 10600k and 3060ti
What psu are you looking at
no the exact cus im using 11400f and 3060ti, ill just copy you so its like good
I have 650w phanteks amp, it’s pretty good, upgrade depends on whether you think you are going to upgrade to 3080 level card anytime in the future
Don’t copy me lol, my build is decent but not the best price to performance lol
ok
Honestly, once I get this system built I'm likely not to mess with it again for three or four years.
If you want to know, I have a 220t rgb case, phanteks amp 650w, 16gb of trident z neo 3600 cl18, msi gaming edge z490, mag core liquid 240r, and sn750 500gb
ok thank you
Obviously there are much better price to perf
Yeah I'm running s 3600 and 3070 on a 600w 650 recommend tho
Sudden question is because I've found the 5600x in-stock and I want to move on it before it goes OOS again.
Imo yes, for future upgrades you can then keep the psu but up to you model is more important
Chonk I've put like 2 better price to perf builds for you lol
I've had the Phanteks Amp on my list since last year.
Both of those are so unbalanced, coolers are way to overkill and you're not getting a 3060 ti for 400 realistically
but you said that it need to be cool to boost clock or something
To a point
Is it possible to make an old disk drive i have work on a USB so I can have out of the way and only use it when needed (just realized I bought a case without the slot).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fCzYK3 the one i sent to you yesterday for 1300$ budget is way better
Might as well it's 10$ more than the 750w
But drop to 750w enermax revolution df if you please
ok
Yeah that's fine
can i use the Asus Tuf wifi board
That depends on getting the fe graphics card.
ok
Yeah you'll have to wait for stock but should be in soon
Granted 3000 grahoics all are nearly impossible to find (at msrp) but if your target range is larger more of a chance of getting lucky.
can i change the case to rgb too?
For 177?
That's why i set the 3060 ti to 550 instead of 400
That's fine then
Decide whether if you would spend less than just buying this https://www.amazon.com/External-Blingco-Protable-Notebook-Computer/dp/B072BR5VWK/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=usb+dvd+drive&qid=1618502081&sprefix=usb+dvd+&sr=8-13
Oh I read that wrong saw the fe and 500 and thought it was the 3070.
Ok didn't even think of checking price of an external on figured it would cost more.
They originally had 400 for 3060 ti which is possible but extremely unlikely
Well, just ordered my 5600x and SSD off Newegg. The other parts I think I'm going to order from Amazon, since I have Prime (free shipping!) and some of the other things are cheaper there.
Nice
Yes, 5600x is in-stock on Newegg right now. I just wasn't going to say it directly until I had mine ordered.
Nice lol
Chonk for the millionth time you're not getting a 3060 ti for 400$
Why did you change the 3600 to 3200?
And why would you spend 130 on a 4000d they're msrp is 100
I paid almost 400 bucks for the 3060 I have. Prices be wack right now.
But for me, still worth it rather than keep waiting a year or more. Espacially since I'm worried this laptop is going to have something more major fail than the screen.
the rgb was 134
eh idk
It's fine but lemme see if there's something else for small bit cheaper
Use the low to high price filter my guy
oh okk
wait the 10600f is 10 dolalrs more, would that be better
the base thing is 2.9 and the 11400f is 2.6
@round stream fixed https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qhPXz7
Base clock doesn't matter 11400 is way better
I'm gonna explain my changes, ram 3600 faster, corsair case, brought the price down to the real price 95 not 140, made 3060 ti REALISTIC PRICE and 850w psu cuz 2$ more than 750w
Yeah the f went up by 10
i try build comptuer game with core 7 and cooler on cpu do i need add ?
ok
And changed to 11400 cuz no harm having an igpu
may i ask guys if u think ?
wait can u have i gpu and gpu
What specs where you thinking of and what do you plan to spend?
Yeah igpu goes through motherboards hdmi out/possibly dvi
but im still using the gpu when i play games right
It asus b550 good for amd RYZEN 5 3600
As long as you have your monitor plugged into your gpu yes
This is my build with the items I just bought marked Purchased.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K6nLgt
whatd yall recomend for gpu if i have the 10700kf
then whats the point of igpu
Do you have either at the moment, intel performs better and is cheaper in mid range/low end at the moment
Nixe
Why not, great for troubleshooting tho
Good luck getting a gpu atm but what price ?
trouble shooting?
If you run into an error
waht wil igpu do
Sabrent 500GB Rocket NVMe PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-500)Cougar Panzer Max-G Black ATX Full Tower Gaming CaseEVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-GA-0850-X1Corsair Hydro Series, H60 2018 (CW-9060036-WW), 120mm Radiator, Single 120mm PWM Fan, Liquid CPU Cooler with Intel Core i7-10700KF Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W BX8070110700KF Desktop Processor and MSI PRO Z490-A PRO LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard and Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive , what u think good ? guys pls answer me ?
like give or take 600
If you have problems with getting a display you can connect your motherboard to the monitor instead and see if that works, if it does you know you have a gpu problem, if not then you know it's a different problem, also if you ever decide to sell your gpu while waiting for a new one you can still use you're pc for light gaming and everyday tasks
ohh
And the MSI motherboard I'm just about settled on is cheaper over on Amazon than Newegg.
If you're buying that all new? No unless you're getting some good discounts, try putting your list together in https://pcpartpicker.com
You know, like I just did a few messages back
You can get a 3060 ti or 3070 if you're lucky but be ready to watch stock drops discords etc or even an rx 67000xt will do
Same lol
I went AMD 5600x, because I feel the performance is worth it and I'm not planning to overclock. It's going to shred through anything I throw at it for the next several years I bet.
Very nice cpu
waht does htis mean
That's weird I've never seen that before, idk why it would be a problem but just double check and but in #cpus-mobo-and-memory and see if a techie or someone else has seen that error before
which one?
What's the names
What budget do you have?
For the rest of the system
Do you have mobo?
i do not yet
Ok
- GamePower Warcry
- Corsair Corbide Spec Omega @Patokav#2667
first one looks better
yes, many people prefer it anyway. but I'm caught in between
👍
Crucial ballistix is the best imo
I have the rgb of that kit
V nice and cheap ram
Anyone using Rog Delta S or Core?
waht does the mhz mean in ram
Mega hertz basically how fast it is
ok
Down the bottom beside the usb headers usually
In my experience usually on the left
Ok
Ohhh lol i thought they meant while building the pc woops
No meant the pin connector
Ohh for the front panel?
Yeah bottom left beside usb usually
Usually right hand side bottom, your mobos manual will tell you what the correct pins are
Imma have to look online because I don't remember where my manual is lmao
13 is the front panel audio, 14 is the power button etc
Ty
Yeah it's a bit confusing that its still called hd audio for front panel, kinda standard def now lol
Audio for B550-F is the left corner isnt it
Pinout for the front panel connectors
Depends on the hub. Usually yes, it plugs into a header to get PWM signal so the motherboard can control speeds, but if it has more than 2 fans it probably also needs extra power from 4 pin molex or sata power
Can someone help me my friends cpu keeps overheating but the cpu cooler is on and running trying to cool it and when it hits 97 degrees in the bios it shuts off
new install or was it previously working?
New install
Reinstall cooler with new paste
agreed
Before that, press on the cooler a bit I bet it starts cooling better lol
If the cooler isn't installed snugly it won't cool properly
Yeah he is alone so idk if that is possible
Someone said it had an air bubble in it
But idk
is it an air cooler or aio water?
any chance he only has the fans plugged in and not the pump?
What AIO exactly
He says it does
And the USB cable plugged into motherboard
He says it’s plugged in
AND the Pump Tach cable plugged into CPU_FAN slot
Or AIO PUMP connector
Which is also the pump power and needs to be set to 100% in the BIOS if possibly
Yeah but straight when we go to bios it keeps rising and than it shuts off
On its own
Then it's not mounted correctly or powere correctly
yeah i would think even if it had a larger air bubble in it, it would just be warmer but not overheat that quickly
I told him to remove the cables and redo it
So we can do one by one
So we go over everything
and check mount
Did they take the plastic off the pump?
Where it makes contact with the cpu
Yeah, gotta take the plastic protecting the thermal paste off.
Yeah, some have it some don't
It is already off
Then it's not wired correctly or the pump is bad
Or they used the wrong mounting studs
Yeah I think it’s the wires
Did they apply thermal paste just incase 😅
He didn’t take it off
Take what off, the plastic?
The paste
Or I mean
The block on top of
The CPI
Cpu
Didn’t change the thermal paste since we didn’t take it off
The plastic on top shouldn't matter
I told him to take off the cables and we re put it back
If the board has an AIO_PUMP header use that for the pump
rather than CPU fan
Or CPU_OPT
Ryzen 9 5950x
Asus Strix 3090
4x 16GB 4000mhz CL17
Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, 1TB
Asus Thor 1200W
Asus Rog Strix x570-e gaming
This is his specs
Does that mobo have that
Yes
speaking of x570s, any reccomends on a sub 200 usd board?
For ryzen 3000 or 5000?
5000
5000 needs flashback which a good portion of X570 lacks
i can pay mc to handle it if i have to
The cheapest board with flashback is the X570 Plus for $200
but that adds 30
also some of the boards at this point supposedly ship with the updated biod
bios
If you don't need dual PCI-E 4.0 NVME slots, just go B550
Don't trust it
Haven't seen one yet
And no one really needs Gen 4 NVME right now
to be completely honest
TUF Gaming WiFi sitll $192 and a great board but x570 is kinda overkill TBH
That could be rough, might not have NVME screws or Sata cables, etc
Not much of a discount too
I only buy open box on things that don't include accessories, like SSDs
B550 is best bet for most users tbh
I'd hate to get the box and then have to hit up the store for basics. Wish I didn't have a stupid reason for not liking tuff (color scheme)
looking for red and black or just black where I can, tuf generally has yellow accents although it won't matter much with my placement
I'd somehow feel odd putting a 5900 and 3000 series card in a b550, even though functionally, I know you are right
Sorry, no buying and selling here
sorry
I can't stand the TUF mobos either, the yellow on them is so ugly.
it's going to take some side work or another paycheck to buy the rest of the parts I need, ram, power supply, cooler, that stuff is easy. Just stuck on the mobo. Doesn't help some people say it doesn't matter much and some people act like it's everything. But I don't plan on OC so that eliminates some concern. Just know I want some USB 3.x ports, at least 2 M.2, wifi+bt is a "nice to have" and I don't wanna blow 500 on a board :p I kinda want to get the cheapest flashback I can find that meets the other criteria so I don't have to deal with the bios other ways.
was it flashback I take it? Or did you need a loaner chip?
thought that was flashback, or am I mis-identifying the feature?
You're correct that's called flashback
ONLY the TUF X570 Plus has that
NOt the gaming
SO heads up to get the right board
Absolutely
only 1 TUF board has it
yeah I came across a list, debating how valuable that feature is... I guess it is worth at least 30 bucks -_-;;
I had criteria for my mobo - b550, wifi, integrated i/o shield, bios flashback, and had to not be ugly.
I'll have to step back and be honest with myself about the b550, since it looks like I could save a chunk although just half a night delivering UE
I know the 5900 isn't "the best" but I kinda want to go as high as I can without being cray cray
It’s the best for gaming performance without crazy overclocks
5950x has lower single core actually
thought they changed that this generation, or am I mistaken...
the 3000 series was that way
Well the 5950x has slightly lower clocks then the 5900x because the 5950x has 16 cores
ah you are right, the all core boost is higher on the 5950 but the heat on that has to be insane
base clock is much lower
I wanted as many cores as I could get without going crazy for light(?) gamedev work
If you don't want to go threadripper then 5950x is your best for high core counts although the single core perf of 5950x isnt that much less than 5900x
The 5950X mostly has lower average boost clocks due to the added heat
5900X is best for gaming
Unless you get a 420-480mm liquid cooler to slap on the 5950X
how does 5800x compare to 5900x in games that fully load 8 cores?
since 5900x has less cores per ccx
would imagine 5800x might have better lows in such a case?
Name one game that fully loads the 16 threads. You forget SMT.
5900X has better base clocks and boost clocks than 5800X
thinking about the future but there's like 3 games right now that load up 24+ threads
couple games might touch a few more?
star citizen, total war troy (if you have stupid settings), hzd
Yeah 99.999% of games top out around 4-6 threads
I was agreeing with @valid basalt
Well I’m fixing my old gaming laptop not a build, but it’s almost working... just need to replace the ram, hope it comes in the mail today.
And a game dev might want to mess around with using all 32 threads cuz why not XD
They may use more threads but typically those threads are small labor threads, the main game loop, possibly the physics and a few other operations take up the bulk
Star Citizen is still in Alpha so I don't count it
I'm not sure if the physics engines are still offloading to the graphics card or not though.
PhysX is mostly dead
@orchid island - using a HD or SSD? that can be a nice cheap usability upgrade
don't worry star citizen will come out of alpha around the time where the technology in the game is real 
this is what I get for using engines as a black box
@rain tendon Build Pics is pictures only so I moved your post here:
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a question? I'm in the process of ordering the parts for a gaming build and they have sold out of the MSI PRO H410I PRO WIFI LGA 1200 Intel H410 SATA 6Gb/s Mini ITX Intel Motherboard, is there another that can be used?
What CPU are you using for this?
An ITX H410? Interesting
Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor w/ Intel UHD Graphics 630
That's like... the worst possible combination
i've pushed that cpu to 300W
Besides maybe an i9
that would cause chernobyl on H410 vrms
lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xkyqqs/asrock-z490-phantom-gaming-itxtb3-mini-itx-lga1200-motherboard-z490-phantom-gaming-itxtb3 this would be alright for 10700K if mini-itx is required, for some reason asrock made the itx board their only non-garbage z490
there is also a slightly cheaper H570 ITX
Ohh good thing the h410was out of stock
With a K sku processor you'd want a Z series board like the Z490
do you specifically need a mini itx board
are you doing a small form factor build
if you aren't doing a mini itx build buying a mini itx board is a bad idea
You don't get to buy one of the fastest processors and then cheap out on the motherboard 😉
big price premium on itx boards
excuse me fal'cie
i am going to hammer my 5950x into my socket 423 mobo and you can't stop me
actually saw a guy literally hammer his 2700x into lga1151 mobo until there was a visible hole in the IHS
Good luck with that XD
Doing the build from the list for a Intel build
then he listed it on facebook marketplace saying "brand new don't know why it won't turn on"
what list?
From what list may i ask?
So you haven't bought the processor yet? Good
it has everything that is needed to get a computer up
Where is the list from?
if the list is recommending you pair a 10700K with an H410 ITX board
throw it away
it is pure garbage
Out of further curiosity, what's the intended use of the PC?
Or easier, what case are you getting rebecca?
probably recommends corsair vengeance 3200c16 and an nzxt h510 too lol
On their build page from their site has build lists
w h o
gaming
Newegg
i'm disappointed in newegg
Do you intend to use onboard, or do you already have a video card? (normally I'd say never use onboard, but... the current market)
That must have been a meme build someone did
Yeah gotta be
Yes as one of the things for the build, but it is sold out and I will need one
Probably put 4400 memory on there knowing full well it's limited to jedec
Anyone got a better list for them? 😮
Lol
not without knowing any details lol
What's your budget? start with that
And do you have any parts already purchased Rebecca?
needs more drives
MOAR
board is smol
Get bigger board XD
Mmm fair
Ok this is what I have already bought, PowerColor Red Dragon RX 550 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card (AXRX-550-4GBD5-DH), Fractal Design Focus G Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, FD-CA-FOCUS-BK-W, and EVGA 500 BA 100-BA-0500-K1 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI CrossFire 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Non-Modular Active PFC Power Supply
That's fine with a RX 550
BA is pretty bad isn't it
Yeah but rx 550
D tier iirc
curious how a 1030 compares...
Ohhh no
Can you return any of those parts?
I've still seen those available
Can you refund it that's an aweful deal
^
For a more budget build, which i5 should I get (non k because b560)
heh, I also have a focus g 😮
11400/11500
11500 for gaming while you wait for GPU XD
Oh ok
The EVGA BA was low C tier btw
this build is made with a budget in mind lol
We know
$200 for rx 550 is hot garbage
Can still do budget with better parts
11400, 11500 if you need the better igpu
where?
Give us your total budget and we can make a PC list for you
rx 550 is barely competitive with integrated graphics lol
but you need to return that 550 and power supply
We'll help you put together a list, but start by return the power supply and the rx 550
ryzen 5 3400g easily matches a gt 1030 with decent ram
and you can still buy 3400g for 150-200 on ebay
the evga PSU is hot garbage? 😮
Got it
The evga psu is fine for low end builds but rx 550 for 200 is hot garbage
you can buy a 1050ti for ~$200 on the used market if you really wanna spend $200 on a dedicated gpu
it's more than twice as good as your rx 550
You gotta make sure it's legit tho
legit?
always have to be somewhat careful buying used parts
but right now used is the only way to go on a budget
Some people might put up broken stuff on ebay etc
There are too many fake 1050TI's being sold right now
I won't buy used parts at all in regards to electronics
ON all the major retailers
well you are going to have to buy an i5-11500 and use the integrated graphics then
I don't buy used parts for a car lol
$200 cannot buy any brand new gpu that's not a complete dumpster fire
graphics cards don't degrade like car parts though
linus benchmarked a gtx 480 running for like 10 years in a dusty office at high temperatures against a brand new gtx 480
after the old used one was cleaned it performed exactly the same
The GPU is costing $ 325.00
$325 for an rx 550?!
