#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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They went deffunct lul

worn wave
muted patio
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This is why Puget bad, running 3200mhz ram for 3000 series benchmarks https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2019-SP3-AMD-Ryzen-3-vs-Intel-9th-Gen-Core-1555/#:~:text=These new Ryzen processors do,per clock in past generations.&text=AMD wins clearly in rendering,our high mesh count simulations.

Puget Systems
SOLIDWORKS 2019 SP3: AMD Ryzen 3 vs Intel 9th Gen Core

AMD recently launched an updated generation of their mainstream Ryzen processors, with increases to both core count and clock speed / per-core performance. We've already tested these chips on a wide range of applications, and now it is time to look at how they handle a professional engineering program: SOLIDWORKS.

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kek

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They used slow ram

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3200 mhz lol

worn wave
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No because they do proper research for application specific stuff

earnest olive
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they're testing 10th gen against ryzen 3000

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lol

worn wave
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it does not matter in solidworks

earnest olive
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test it against ryzen 5000

muted patio
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Ye

worn wave
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they have

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It depends on the action

muted patio
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Saying bandwidth doesn't matter for rendering is kind of oof

earnest olive
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no clock speeds listed

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no power limits listed

worn wave
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Because they leave it stock

little osprey
worn wave
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Puget Systems is all about reliability

little osprey
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Core 2 duo blender renders.

earnest olive
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also...

muted patio
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What's not reliable about faster ram and listing clock speeds?

earnest olive
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it shows ryzen winning in these benchmarks anyways

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lol

worn wave
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Because they have done extensive testing and it shows it does not matter in Solidworks overall

earnest olive
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idk how you got "intel is better in solidworks" from this

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O_O

worn wave
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Thats for rendering in specific

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due to the higher core counts

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Overall Intel CPUs will be better

earnest olive
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are you claiming the application starting 0.5 seconds faster as a definitive win

little osprey
earnest olive
worn wave
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Where did I say that

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No where did i say that

earnest olive
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because this is the only thing they win at in your link

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but you are claiming they win overall

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lol

little osprey
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I heard intel>Ryzen

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Lol

worn wave
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I am saying what they are saying...

earnest olive
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?

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"aren't too far behind"

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implying they are still behind

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how is that winning

worn wave
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But they still recommend intel over AMD for solidworks

earnest olive
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because intel has better availability

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doesn't mean the cpus actually win

worn wave
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i know...

earnest olive
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?

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"any intel cpu will be better"

worn wave
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Thats what they have said before

earnest olive
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where

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lmao

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i am looking at the link you sent

little osprey
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Core2duo lul

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vs 5800x

earnest olive
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they show ryzen winning in almost everything and conclude that they are ahead but the downside is low supply

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i have no idea how you could possibly read that as "any intel cpu will be better"

little osprey
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pff i had r5 3600 before its almost 2x of 9600k in benchmarks but actually performs same xd amd numbers are eh

earnest olive
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we are not talking about gaming here

little osprey
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me too

earnest olive
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3600 will destroy a 9600k in renders

little osprey
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i using cad systems and some video rendering and 3600 performs very similar to 9600k even without oc

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and r5 3600 needs 3600mhz rams while 9600k needs 3200mhz

earnest olive
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"needs 3600mhz ram"

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lol

little osprey
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i slod both of them actually but yeah lol

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yeah it needs

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with 3200mhz r5 3600 being so slow xd

earnest olive
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cad is single thread load

little osprey
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i know about benchmark results but yeah in actual performance is not as benchmarks ig

earnest olive
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and if you saw the 9600k performing anywhere near the 3600 in video renders

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you were probably rendering short 1080p 30 fps clips

little osprey
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some short clips but yeah theyre 1080p usually

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i had 2 pc with is one 3600 and one 9600k i never felt like 3600 is better than 9600k so

earnest olive
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give it 4k+ footage and watch the 3600 run circles around the 9600k

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you aren't loading it enough to see the difference

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and cad is single thread so it's totally irrelevant both cpus have similar single thread

little osprey
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in overall intel and amd have same performance for price

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its not like you paying same for 2x performance lol

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its usually same

earnest olive
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they are currently the same price

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3600 wins by 30-40% in heavy rendering

granite delta
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hey guys

earnest olive
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9600K wins in games that don't load more than 6 threads

little osprey
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and yeah for me amd just using marketing tricks with high core and benchmark numbers

granite delta
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what do you call this bracket on the side of the gpu?

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little osprey
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i personally had rx570 8gb which is 1060 beating it which 3gb lol

earnest olive
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$169 msrp rx 570
$199 msrp gtx 1060 3gb

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you are comparing a more expensive card

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and if you compare them again today the 1060 3gb will suffer

little osprey
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but yeah thing is numbers

earnest olive
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...?

pale dust
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try to get a card on bh photo

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150 for a 1650

earnest olive
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btw

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@fast dust the best part is

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that case doesn't even have fan mounts where he put the rad

pale dust
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lmfao

earnest olive
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he paid me to install the mobo and cooler... and then uninstalled the cooler

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oh wait this is a different channel

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OOPS

fast dust
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S M H

pale dust
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lol imagine saying intel is better in solidworks

earnest olive
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i love you yammy

pale dust
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a multithreaded rendering task

earnest olive
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we haven't seen intel fanboys come into full force in a while

brittle tinsel
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what is a future proof boot drive size? 250gb, 500gb, or 120gb.

earnest olive
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i feel like i'm usually the one defending intel against rabid amd fanboys

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if you're going to nothing but boot of it then 120gb is more than enough

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windows 10 is like 30gb

muted patio
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I only fanboy for the 10400F over the 3600

earnest olive
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i only fanboy id-cooling

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id-cooling is the only company that deserves to be fanboyed for

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smh

fast dust
muted patio
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Everything gonna change next month tho

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have to do this all over again

earnest olive
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i'm excited for i5-11400F + B560

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😳

brittle tinsel
earnest olive
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120gb will last you the life of the drive

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there's no way windows is going to balloon to 120gb anytime soon

brittle tinsel
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life of the drive?

earnest olive
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yes ssds have a lifespan

brittle tinsel
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what about M.2?

earnest olive
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ssd is ssd

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does not matter what form factor

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the flash chips have limited write cycles

little osprey
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lol

brittle tinsel
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I thought m.2 was nvme not ssd?

earnest olive
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nvme is a standard for ssds

little osprey
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its still ssd lol

earnest olive
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also not all m.2 ssds are nvme

little osprey
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yep theres some sata m2 around

earnest olive
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m.2 is a physical form factor

little osprey
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its whats point of them but yeah

earnest olive
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nvme is an electrical standard

brittle tinsel
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what 120gb M.2 would have longest life span?

little osprey
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wd maybe

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i have 6years old kingston too

brittle tinsel
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wd doesnt make anything under 250 I dont think

earnest olive
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realistically if you are putting nothing on windows on it

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you won't be writing enough to it for the write endurance to really matter

little osprey
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TBW

brittle tinsel
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TBW?

little osprey
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Higher TBW, more you can write to it before cells start dying

earnest olive
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just get the cheapest one

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this has 50 TBW

little osprey
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Terabytes written

earnest olive
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i'm not sure how you would ever write 50TB to a drive with nothing but your OS on it

little osprey
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Mine has 500tbw

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lol

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and i doubt i will ever hit that.

brittle tinsel
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what do you have?

little osprey
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Sabrent rocket 4.

earnest olive
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team mp34 with 1660 tbw

brittle tinsel
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sabrent is my 2tb main drive aside from boot

little osprey
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Nope nvm its 1800

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Lmao

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and i have 2 of them

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3600 tbw to kill both of them kek

earnest olive
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idk how the mp34's write endurance is so crazy high

brittle tinsel
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what is 1800, sabrent?

little osprey
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what

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🤔

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1800 Sabrent rocket 1tb

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And i have 2 of them adding up to 3600

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lul

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unless i plan to video edit

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it won't die until ages.

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my sn750 is 1200 🤔

brittle tinsel
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oh damn so mine has 3600 TBW, I dont think I will ever kill this thing

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do hard drives have limited write ?

earnest olive
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it'll become obsolete long before it runs out of write cycles

brittle tinsel
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or tbw or whatever its calle

earnest olive
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hard drives not really

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they just eventually fail regardless

little osprey
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depends

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Also on heat conditions

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temperature's, voltages etc.

earnest olive
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nothing lasts forever

brittle tinsel
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I keep my room around 40 F but its hot AF ooutside all lthe time

little osprey
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im sure running a m.2 in hot sand would kill it faster.

earnest olive
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except for id-cooling

little osprey
earnest olive
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hwinfo can monitor the temperatures of your drives

brittle tinsel
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so would it be better to edit videos on M.2 or hdd

earnest olive
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ssd

brittle tinsel
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but that will eat into lifespan though?

earnest olive
brittle tinsel
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downloading warzone is gonna take a huge chunk out of that 3600 tb

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tbw*

little osprey
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Why you don't download TONS of games on it kek

earnest olive
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warzone is 0.005% of the write endurance

brittle tinsel
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oh your that guy....

little osprey
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lol

brittle tinsel
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xD ❤️

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my brother does that all the time

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"hurry up youve taken 10 minutes to use the bathroom" him " actually it was 9 minutes 54 seconds"

earnest olive
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you could download 20,000 games the size of warzone before hitting TBW

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and TBW is not an absolute limit either

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it's just the line where manufacturers say "after this we make no promises"

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and they tend to be pessimistic

brittle tinsel
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ah its rated for that

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I get it now

stoic island
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there's also dying before TBW

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

brittle tinsel
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thats not what I wanted to here

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hear

little osprey
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lmao

brittle tinsel
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I hate english

earnest olive
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yeah TBW is more of a guideline than anything absolute

little osprey
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^

stoic island
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Yep

little osprey
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You can say a hard drive lives for 100 years

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and then dies after 10

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kek

stoic island
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but you'd be covered by the manufacturers for dumb things before you hit tbw

little osprey
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my sn750 is about 7tb but sn550 almost hits 20tb just in 4months lol

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🤔

brittle tinsel
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how do you check those nymbers?

earnest olive
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my ssd is at 10.3 tb

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after 1.25 years

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1.58% of TBW

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if i were to continue writing at current pace i would hit TBW in 78.88 years

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for the vast majority of consumers write endurance is irrelevant

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it can be relevant for people running homelabs/servers

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editing and rendering extremely large footage

brittle tinsel
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is 1tb considered big?

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for footage

earnest olive
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by large i mean resolution

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like 8K raw video

little osprey
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1TB is very large if you're filming 1080p-2k

brittle tinsel
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oh nah this is just high bitrate 1080p

little osprey
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thats alot of footage g

brittle tinsel
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nah

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not really

earnest olive
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i recorded 40 seconds of 1440p 60 fps video recently

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the file size is 28.9 mb

brittle tinsel
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a 2m clip (raw) runs about 300-500mb

little osprey
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at 1080p

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?

brittle tinsel
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yeah

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but I think it was like 15million bitrat

little osprey
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so where are you uploading this where it won't get compressed

earnest olive
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so 1tb would be equal to 403 minutes of that 1440p 60fps video

brittle tinsel
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at 60fps

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unless a screwed something in the settings

earnest olive
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if you're doing professional video editing with large footage

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then no, 1tb is not a lot

little osprey
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why the hell was my tarkov screen capture for 52 minites

brittle tinsel
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I mean the last guy I worked for only did 720p 60 fps videos, but he swapped to someone else

little osprey
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52 minutes

stoic island
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My 1080p 60fps 5min clips usually end up around 200-300mb...

little osprey
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16gb

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1440p

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looks 60 fps

brittle tinsel
earnest olive
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you can see people who actually need that much storage running NAS setups that may have hundreds of tb

little osprey
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^

little osprey
stoic island
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Not sure, I think 50? It's GeForce experience's default plus a bit

little osprey
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now this is poggers

brittle tinsel
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ah I dont know about them

earnest olive
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my recording is at 6000 bitrate

brittle tinsel
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I use streamlabs to record at around 6000 bitrate

stoic island
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Idek what measurement bitrate is in

little osprey
earnest olive
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kbps

stoic island
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Fun

little osprey
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so i have mine full res 60fps 50 bitrate

brittle tinsel
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medal however uses 10 or 15 million bitrate so it kills the file size or the clips

earnest olive
stoic island
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Think that's mine then

little osprey
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Ya

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its default

stoic island
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I'm gonna check some clips of mine later, but they're prob compressed

pliant lake
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i would hope so

little osprey
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did you see the guy who used youtube as a file storage method

earnest olive
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most people have no reason to have uncompressed videos

little osprey
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he coded a program to pick up data off of black and white video

earnest olive
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did youtube compression affect it

little osprey
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nope

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu_ZIr0q5rU&feature=youtu.be

YouTube
Alfredo Sequeida
I made a program that gives me UNLIMITED storage!

I made a program using the Python programming language that gives me 100% free unlimited cloud storage FOREVER! The program uses 1-bit data to create a video made up of image sequences containing the data encoded as a series of black and white pixels. This makes it possible to retrieve the information encoded in the pixels even if the video is c...

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"infinite storage" part is a little wrong

desert gulch
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Lines got infinite storage one time

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Cause he did the google drive thing and had basically unlimited storage I think

brittle tinsel
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would 16gb total ram hold me over in terms of modeling and scripting, until I can afford more? Im pretty sure it will hold for gaming since my 16gb ddr3 1200 held for a long time\

muted patio
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If so, just get that

brittle tinsel
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thats what I have in the cart already but if i go 2x8 (16gb) It will cut that price in half, and when I can afford the 2 x 32gb sticks I will throw thoses in and probably get rid of the 2 x 8gb or keep them on hand for when my brothers start getting current gen builds

brittle tinsel
muted patio
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2x16

brittle tinsel
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will it make that much of a difference for streaming?

muted patio
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Depends on games, resolutions, too many factors

brittle tinsel
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I mean generally I have 3 1080p monitors (144hz, 60, and 60) I have streamlabs obs open, discord, the game im playing, and a google chrome tab

muted patio
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And how much system ram do you use now?

brittle tinsel
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16gb ddr3 1600

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or 1200 not sure

muted patio
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No, how much is actually being used doing what you do

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Like, in a game overlay

brittle tinsel
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Oh I didnt have anything to track those, and I have ran my cpu too hot or something because it cant keep up with streaming anymore

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currently with 1 chrome tab and discord I am using between 7-9gb of ram

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well and task manager to check it

muted patio
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That's not right. i have way more than that open and only using 7.5

desert gulch
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Same

brittle tinsel
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im using ddr3 that is slow AF

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your probably on high speed ddr4

muted patio
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That doesn't matter

desert gulch
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Doesn't matter for capacity

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It should use the same amount

muted patio
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Gotta be more stuff running int he background

desert gulch
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It'll just be slower to transfer the stuff on and off

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If you on slower ram

brittle tinsel
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background tasks that are using noticable amounts are nvidia container, steam, discord, chrome, windows audio device graph, and my anti virus

muted patio
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Seems like some more background stuff is eating itup

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I'd have a look

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I have 15 chrome tabs, Discord, and a bunch of other stuff open at 7.5GB

brittle tinsel
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oh and razer synapse

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so its safe to say I should probably get 32 to start instead of 16 aye?

muted patio
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If you're using 9 GB with just what you have now, yes

desert gulch
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32 is best for streaming

brittle tinsel
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I think Ill just drop the extra $80 since im under budget anyway, but Yeah at some point in life when I can afford it I will be upgrading to more

muted patio
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32 GB gonna last you a long time

brittle tinsel
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I dont know bro, games are starting to recommend 12 nowadays

desert gulch
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32 will last a while

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I'm on 16 and can play pretty much any game maxed out on 1080 no issues

brittle tinsel
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how many fps? and what title

desert gulch
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Uhhh

brittle tinsel
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doesnt matter just name one

desert gulch
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Microsoft flight sim maxed out ultra 1080p, around 45-50 fps

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That's the most demanding title I have

muted patio
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I mean, I use MSI Afterburner OSD, never seen more than 10 used

brittle tinsel
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ive never ran that so I cant compare lol

desert gulch
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Lol

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I can run fortnite and warzone maxed out 1080 ultra at 144 fps locked

brittle tinsel
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wait warzone maxed graphics 1080 at 144???????

desert gulch
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Yeah

brittle tinsel
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what is the 5700xt scaled to on nvidia side? i dont keep up with amd gpu

desert gulch
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Uhh 2070 super area

brittle tinsel
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so a 3080 is better than that?

desert gulch
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3060ti is a bit better than mine

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Yeah way better

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Like 2x better

brittle tinsel
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ah ok, so I could stream warzone no problem maxed with 144hz huh?

desert gulch
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Prolly

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I wouldn't go 16 gigs of ram tho

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If streaming

brittle tinsel
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alrioght I guess ill go 32

desert gulch
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Cause I can sometimes cut it close if I have a bunch of things open

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Like chrome and msfs

heady current
upbeat path
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I'm making a good budget pc what is a good cpu for cheap

muted patio
heady current
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thx

upbeat path
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nice pc sovietbear

heady current
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that will be my first pc

upbeat path
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Cool

heady current
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yea

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it is

static ravine
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replacement for 3900x can probs be a 5800x or 5900x

muted patio
static ravine
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3600 cl16 is sweet spot for ryzen 3000 and 5000 so do what Vintage said and get 3600 cl16 ram

heady current
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what if the graphics card is for sale?

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somehow

muted patio
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Ballistix has white RGB ram too

static ravine
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nice system would switch ram from vengeance though

heady current
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k

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wait

static ravine
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Sn550 is okay

heady current
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me?

desert gulch
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Sovietbear why 3 3tb hard disk drives?

static ravine
muted patio
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Mushkin Pilot E for the same price

desert gulch
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Seems like they don't care about price tbh

static ravine
desert gulch
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Like a 2080ti

muted patio
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Mushkin faster than the SN550

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Yeah like $5

static ravine
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oh nvm sn550 also nvme

muted patio
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couple little tweaks otherwise good

static ravine
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cooler looks fine

heady current
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better*

muted patio
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I'd still shoot for a 5000 series TBH

static ravine
static ravine
muted patio
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Same money more performance. 🙂

heady current
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k

muted patio
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Full restock

static ravine
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Barracuda drive

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lol

heady current
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what abt bots they got that problem fixed right?

muted patio
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Not an issue for CPU's anymore

desert gulch
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I think there's a cheaper td500 tbh

muted patio
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They were in stock for a good hour after 9 AM

desert gulch
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I remember a white one being around 100$

static ravine
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if you're getting td500 for that price id pay a little more for a p500a

muted patio
desert gulch
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Vintage would it be a better idea for them to just get a 2x16? Prolly cheaper

muted patio
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Look at the build

desert gulch
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4x8 kinda meh imo

muted patio
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All white theme

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Full ram slots

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it's a looks thing

desert gulch
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Ig

static ravine
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nice

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looking pc ya got there

heady current
desert gulch
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Vintage what you think of barracuda?

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Ik some ppl out there hate them

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And some love them

grave void
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hi

hollow grail
brittle tinsel
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your not alone

hollow grail
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i consider them bad because of fail rates on the barracuda line

desert gulch
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Yeah that's what I was thinking

brittle tinsel
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however a buddy of mine has had 3 for about 5 years and no problems

hollow grail
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if the drive works its fine

worn wave
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Thats just one person though

hollow grail
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generally its just the first year

muted patio
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And also older drives

worn wave
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Obviously it wont fail for everyone but you never know when it could happen to you

hollow grail
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and seagate has had a really bad track record

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never trust any mechanical drive with anything important anyways

muted patio
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That's why I have 3 NYEHE

hollow grail
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at least if a ssd dies it just goes read only

desert gulch
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Bruh if that dude has the money to go all white themed and stuff why not just throw a 1 or 2 tb 2.5 inch ssd in there

desert kelp
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how can i tell what i have in my pc now

muted patio
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CPU-Z and GPU-Z

desert gulch
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In windows settings I think you can see cpu and gpu

hollow grail
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just get another mushkin

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it costs around the same

desert kelp
hollow grail
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no

desert gulch
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No

muted patio
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intel 10400F/B560 motherboard

desert gulch
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Ssd trash for boot

muted patio
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More FPS

hollow grail
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kek a400

desert gulch
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That ram is meh imo

hollow grail
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kingston make a good product challenge

desert gulch
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Go crucial ballistics 3600 c16 if going with a ryzen build

muted patio
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Nah

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Intel 10400F and 3200 mhz with B560

desert gulch
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Like a 3600 build

muted patio
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Less money, more performance

desert gulch
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Yeah but 10400f way better value rn

desert kelp
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can some one make me a good pc build for cheep

desert gulch
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So I wouldn't go ryzen

muted patio
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How cheap?

desert gulch
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Well how cheap are we talkin?

desert kelp
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like 800

brittle tinsel
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what is it gonna be used for?

muted patio
desert gulch
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Also their list didn't even have a gpu

muted patio
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With room for a better GPU

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Or a better CPU cooler

desert kelp
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gaming and streming

hollow grail
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tfw no helix l pricing

muted patio
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lemme check Mushkin

hollow grail
brittle tinsel
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will an M.2 have faster boot speed than ssd?

muted patio
little osprey
#

whenever i see this emoji i just smiling lol

muted patio
brittle tinsel
#

is ssd boot fast?

muted patio
#

Yes

desert gulch
#

Not necessarily m.2 is quickee

brittle tinsel
#

faster than say 15 20 minutes?

muted patio
#

wat

desert gulch
#

Yeah easily

muted patio
#

If your OS takes that long to boot

hollow grail
#

lmfao

muted patio
#

You have too much bloatware

#

and other issues

little osprey
#

lol

brittle tinsel
#

I know

hollow grail
little osprey
#

its like 15 seconds

muted patio
#

My OS boots cold in like 10 seconds lol

desert gulch
#

Same

little osprey
#

I never count it but yeah something like that

#

I cant even see windows logo mostly 😂

desert gulch
#

My pc sounds like a 747 when the fans spin up lol

little osprey
#

lol

#

my pc was quiet with aio but my air cooler is too loud now

brittle tinsel
#

what causes bloatware? virus or something?

hollow grail
muted patio
#

Too amny things installed that load at bootup

desert gulch
#

Some is preinstalled

muted patio
#

Should just be OS and drivers

hollow grail
#

"oh look at this free av!!!"

#

"woah check out this cool speed boost program!"

muted patio
#

Logitech updater

hollow grail
#

"ooooh look at this system cleanup tool!"

muted patio
#

AMD updated

desert gulch
#

Download more ram

muted patio
#

Motherboard Updated

brittle tinsel
#

ah yeah the boot drive is 2tb and it litterally never has more than 1gb left avail

muted patio
#

GPU updater

#

Driver updater

muted patio
#

Makes drive slow

hollow grail
#

people are so stupid when it comes to pc stuff

little osprey
#

F

brittle tinsel
#

damn

hollow grail
brittle tinsel
#

be that way

hollow grail
#

like "oh if my av doesnt catch it it must be good"

little osprey
hollow grail
#

most av dont scan for PUP

little osprey
#

😂

hollow grail
#

my hdd has like 5gb free for the past 3 years

#

i paid for the full 2 tb im gonna USE the full 2 tb

little osprey
#

I always having about 100gb empty just in case lol

brittle tinsel
#

tbf though we were talking about booting from a full hdd not just having it full and doing nothing

little osprey
#

rip

muted patio
#

Too amny things loading at startup

#

Clean that startup section out

little osprey
#

I'd have heart attack if i boot from hdd after this lol

brittle tinsel
#

how>?

#

empty

muted patio
#

WIndows search

#

Startup

#

Shut all the apps off

#

Also, Task Manger, Startup tab

rancid lodge
muted patio
#

AMD optimized is marketing crap

#

Forget it exists

rancid lodge
#

alright I figured as much

muted patio
#

Same for Intel optimized

rancid lodge
#

I'll get the other one then, RGB doesn't matter whatsoever to me.

rich helm
#

@worn wave what motherboard are you using in your build?

little osprey
#

rgb gives more fps lol

worn wave
#

X570 Pro WS

#

not worth it for the money

rich helm
#

Does it have thunderbolt?

worn wave
#

no

rich helm
#

Oh

rancid lodge
#

Also happy to say I found that Amazon had a Lian Li O11D XL from Amazon warehouse for just 7 bucks above newegg's price so I went ahead and ordered myself that 😎

worn wave
#

I might buya W480 ACE and a W-1290p at some point

#

or wait for Alder Lake

rich helm
#

Some boards like that I’ve seen are only super expensive because they have thunderbott

rancid lodge
#

Never really bought from amazon warehouse but seeing as it's straight from them, in very good condition, for that price I took it

worn wave
#

It has U.2 and remote management and can have 3 gpus all in x8 but still PCIe 4.0

#

comes with a neat GPU support bracket

rich helm
#

If I were to build a pc alternative to my dads mac he needs thunderbolt and would have to use a mobo with it or buy a separate card

worn wave
#

most Vision boards have thunderbolt and are amazing

#

Vision and Pro WS boards are amazing motherboards

rich helm
#

Oh I didn’t know vision boards did

worn wave
#

I think they all do

#

Dual thunderbolt board

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#

Best high end 10th gen board imo for workstations

rich helm
#

Considering trying to run macOS on a virtual machine but since I’ve never worked with Linux or attempted something like it idk

wanton cliff
#

MacOS isn’t Linux

worn wave
#

based on unix

rich helm
wanton cliff
#

And you need a Mac already to run it

worn wave
#

The ProArt Z490 is also awesome

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

I use 10gb

#

well used to for my server

#

$15 HP 10GB dual port nics

#

I was so thankful for finding the drivers

#

they work amazing

rich helm
little osprey
#

couse mac also using same intel or amd cpus and other things lol

#

just with different microcode uh

#

you don't even need virtual actually you can install ios straight as main os Nice

#

one of my friend using macbook with windows 🤦

signal jackal
#

Anyone familiar with this case? It is the Raijintek Nyx Pro. I am working on designing a custom water loop for it but am having trouble with mapping everything. If you’ve built in this chassis before please let me know!

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hollow grail
#

dont just spam the message there tho

signal jackal
hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

Lili being nice for once?

pine stone
#

Hey anyone here?

wanton cliff
#

Yeah

#

We are always here

#

Except when I’m asking a question apparently

pine stone
#

Yeah can you help me with something

wanton cliff
#

Describe your problem

pine stone
#

Which motherboard I should choose for Intel I5 10600K? Price range 100-140

wanton cliff
#

B560 Pro4

#

Easy

small osprey
#

^

wanton cliff
#

Might be out of stock right now tho

#

That won’t last long

small osprey
#

make sure to get 3200mhz ram tho

#

at least

pine stone
#

And And what about graphics card?

wanton cliff
#

Uhhh

small osprey
#

3060ti

wanton cliff
#

What’s your total budget

small osprey
#

if you can

pine stone
#

1100$

wanton cliff
#

3060Ti good pairing with 10600k

solid canyon
#

It’s not that easy to get a 3060ti tho. Market isn’t looking too good. I’ve been trying to get one at a reasonable price for months 🥲

#

^

pine stone
#

And one more thing how are you guys figure out that which is good for one like which is motherboard is good for which graphics card like which Graphics card is that is that for which processor like how you can figure it out because I’m totally newbie I really don’t know how to do these things so I just wanna know how do you guys do that do that

solid canyon
#

If you read it

wanton cliff
#

Just learn these things tbh

solid canyon
#

And put 2 and 2 together

wanton cliff
#

I have it all stored in my brain

#

Months of research and listening to people

solid canyon
#

I’m still pretty new but I learnt to just put 2 and 2 together

wanton cliff
#

Overall a motherboard won’t affect a GPU too much

pine stone
#

So Intel I5 10600k with 3060i B560 pro4? And with 3200 MHz ram? That’s it?

pine stone
wanton cliff
#

How about this

#

Squish

solid canyon
#

You’d need a good power source as well

wanton cliff
#

Make your pc there

pine stone
#

2 tb and 750w?

solid canyon
solid canyon
#

Just put in what you currently have

pine stone
#

Hard drive

solid canyon
#

Also look at different builds that were made with the parts you already have or you plan to get

#

And read the reviews

wanton cliff
#

How bout y’all shush and let him make his build in PCPP

#

Enderman

#

Don’t talk

#

Same with you Naj

solid canyon
#

;-; just trying to help

wanton cliff
#

Just let him make his build in PCPP so we can educate him later

solid canyon
#

Oki

pine stone
wanton cliff
#

Lemme see

worn wave
#

10/10 list

#

its blank

wanton cliff
#

That’s uh

#

You clicked the wrong link

#

Copy this

small osprey
wanton cliff
#

Same

pine stone
#

Soooo?

wanton cliff
pine stone
#

Are guys able to see the list?

wanton cliff
#

No

#

You copied the wrong link

uncut pelican
wanton cliff
#

Copy the link I told you to copy

pine stone
#

Ok wait

wanton cliff
#

I was probably there

hollow grail
#

i am without ruth

wanton cliff
#

Reminds me of me

small osprey
#

i think mr1111 roasted the first list i sent here bc it was intel xD

wanton cliff
#

Heh

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

When was this, 2 years ago?

small osprey
uncut pelican
#

I love mr1111

hollow grail
#

is your name ruth

wanton cliff
hollow grail
#

i have decided to softblock ppl who annoy me

uncut pelican
pine stone
uncut pelican
#

Nice list

worn wave
#

Copy this link

pine stone
wanton cliff
#

Yes

worn wave
#

Look at my screenshot

pine stone
uncut pelican
worn wave
#

no you diddnt

hollow grail
worn wave
#

Control C and Control V

uncut pelican
worn wave
#

I only use Facebook for robotics lmao

pine stone
#

I’m on my phone!

wanton cliff
#

So?

small osprey
#

you can still copy that

uncut pelican
hollow grail
pine stone
small osprey
#

just like double tap it and drag the little blue bars all the way to either side (assume you have an iphone)

worn wave
#

oh damn

pine stone
#

This link right?

small osprey
#

no

uncut pelican
small osprey
#

in the site

#

there’s a link

#

copy that

worn wave
#

@pine stone

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wanton cliff
worn wave
#

I sent the screenshot

hollow grail
#

im so sad cody

#

i used to use the playboy one all the time

small osprey
#

@pine stone

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wanton cliff
#

Oh wait

worn wave
#

Helix L RIP

#

no prices

wanton cliff
hollow grail
pine stone
worn wave
#

I got a Gammaxx 400 free with my i9-9900k

pine stone
#

Here you go!

worn wave
#

oh god

#

H510, PGM, Hyper 212

wanton cliff
#

What’s your total budget

small osprey
#

pgm

pine stone
small osprey
#

...

hollow grail
pine stone
worn wave
#

BRUH

#

i diddnt see that

wanton cliff
#

Better than your system

#

Around 1k

#

Maybe throw a 10600k in there

#

No

uncut pelican
worn wave
#

Intel better for budget RN

wanton cliff
#

Which is why I recommended you a 10400f

#

I’m no fangirl

#

Whichever is better, I recommend

worn wave
#

DS3H

wanton cliff
#

No

worn wave
#

no

uncut pelican
#

Its private

#

Wait

wanton cliff
#

Get a B560 Pro4

worn wave
#

Anything gigabyte DS3H usually is terrible

pine stone
#

Anyways thank you guys for helping me out bro I was like you know as a newbie I really don’t know how to pick parts so you know

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

yeah

#

The B450 DS3H had high failure rates

#

I know multiple people who had them crap out on them

wanton cliff
#

Not B550 tho

uncut pelican
wanton cliff
#

Which is why I usually recommend for lower spec systems

worn wave
#

lmao

sage crown
worn wave
#

Get a 10850k instead

#

cheaper and just as good

uncut pelican
hollow grail
wanton cliff
pine stone
#

What’s wrong with this ram?

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sage crown
#

@wanton cliff ?

worn wave
#

not great for the price

uncut pelican
worn wave
#

Usually is overpriced

wanton cliff
pine stone
hollow grail
sage crown
#

@wanton cliff bruh im new to this stuff calm your tits mate

worn wave
#

no need to be rude

wanton cliff
#

Sorry I’m mad today

sharp tundra
#

Hey, does WD_Black have a new NVMe drive that compares to the performance of like a MP600 Pro and a 980 PRO?

wanton cliff
#

It’s rubbing off

small osprey
worn wave
wanton cliff
hollow grail
uncut pelican
sage crown
#

is it i watched a video of a mobo for a i9 and im told it is fine for now

worn wave
#

Unless its a Rocket 4 which is the same price as a 970 evo tbh

#

sometimes on sale

pine stone
#

So are you guys sure that I should go for that set up?

small osprey
#

recommend aorus elite z490 or asus z490 prime-a

wanton cliff
#

Yes

hollow grail
worn wave
#

true

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

10600kf with 3060Ti and associated parts is good

#

Which is why I recommended it

small osprey
#

why the -f

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

cheaper

sharp tundra
#

@hollow grail why you say don't buy Gen4?

small osprey
#

you probably arent gonna get a 3060ti right away

worn wave
#

and why pay more for a iGPU when you dont need it

hollow grail
small osprey
#

better to be able to use your pc while you get a gpu

worn wave
#

There is no difference in gaming Gen3 vs Gen4 SSDs

#

only time you wil feel a difference is editing large files like 8k footage usually

#

stuff like that

pine stone
#

Should I get a hard drive with that ssd?

hollow grail
worn wave
#

usually not yeah

wanton cliff
hollow grail
#

but if u need to move a big file from one gen4 drive to another gen4 drive

#

then oh hell yeah baby

worn wave
#

its application specific but rarely is seen to have a difference that can be felt

sharp tundra
#

Who's to say they won't be useful soon?

worn wave
#

SSD benchmarks usually do not show real world performance

sharp tundra
#

For more applications

hollow grail
#

and it doesnt

#

not real world

worn wave
#

^^

hollow grail
#

only difference is iops

worn wave
#

P300a

hollow grail
#

and sequential

worn wave
#

P12 Arctic fans with that

wanton cliff
sharp tundra
#

NVMe smaller, less cables, faster speed?

pine stone
wanton cliff
#

Then you spend more

#

Simple

worn wave
#

Sick P360a is on sale rn

pine stone
#

Cpu*

small osprey
wanton cliff
#

Also 10600kf cheaper because no iGPU

small osprey
#

there are no cables

worn wave
#

why do you want a 8gb stick

#

You most likely want 3600MHz

#

just get a kit of 2x8gb

sharp tundra
#

Exactly that, less cables than a SATA drive isn't it?

pine stone
sharp tundra
#

No cables at all is less cables

worn wave
#

Crucial 3600MHz 2x8gb CL16 kit will be fine

hollow grail
wanton cliff
hollow grail
pine stone
wanton cliff
hollow grail
#

if youre talking about sata in 2.5in form factor

wanton cliff
hollow grail
#

no bean

small osprey
#

makes more sense to say no

hollow grail
#

no cables = less cables

small osprey
wanton cliff
#

Ew Corsair

#

Gronsk

#

Get G.Skill or Crucial

sharp tundra
#

LPX is actually worth jt

worn wave
#

not for the price

pine stone
# wanton cliff Wdym?

Like if I choose the processor if there will be any changes in the graphic card and motherboard or it will stay the same

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

Thats $90 for CL18 also

wanton cliff
hollow grail
pine stone
wanton cliff
#

Ok

hollow grail
#

omega ram

wanton cliff
#

And do 10600kf

#

Not 10600k

#

You don’t need an iGPU and you will be saving money

sage crown
#

so is this the best overall for i9-10900k builds for mobo MSI MEG Z490 UNIFY ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

pine stone
worn wave
#

10600kf

#

Depends on your budget though

wanton cliff
#

Literally any tenth Gen CPU

pine stone
#

All of you thanks!!

wanton cliff
#

Why was I downvoted

small osprey
#

bc your sara

sage crown
#

lol

wanton cliff
#

Why am I being downvoted lmao

worn wave
hollow grail
worn wave
#

No

hollow grail
#

no

jagged ember
#

no

worn wave
#

SSE24 ID cooling or whatever

#

gamemax 400

jagged ember
#

or gammaxx 400 v2

#

or vetroo v2

small osprey
#

se 224 xt

worn wave
#

thats what its called

pine stone
#

Should I buy all these parts online or I should go to store?

small osprey
#

or gammaxx 400

wanton cliff
#

Get Gammax 400 or Ventroo V2

jagged ember
#

Ventroo kek

wanton cliff
#

^no

jagged ember
#

oops

wanton cliff
#

Yes

jagged ember
#

ayy

worn wave
#

Yes

#

underrated cooler

pine stone
jagged ember
#

i have yet to install mine

worn wave
#

either one is fine

jagged ember
#

but i cannot wait

worn wave
#

I got a Gammaxx for free and I never use it really

#

the intel mounting broke of course

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

or for free

pine stone
worn wave
#

segotep 650w

jagged ember
#

oh

#

S12III is like Tier c i think

hollow grail
#

fsp cooler

sage crown
#

i need someone to tell me if this is a good mobo for i9-10900k, MSI MEG Z490 UNIFY ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

hollow grail
worn wave
#

its a PSU?

#

wdym

#

Newegg

#

P31, MP34

jagged ember
#

Sn750

hollow grail
#

p31

jagged ember
#

pilot e, sabrent rocket

#

they're good too

worn wave
#

Helix L

hollow grail
#

search ends at p31

jagged ember
#

helix L for low end

hollow grail
#

its like $10 more than the cheapest okay option

worn wave
#

lmao

#

Cheapest option out of those listed is MP34 i do believe

brittle tinsel
#

Good non Rgb AIO?

#

360 preferably

worn wave
#

Liquid Freezer II

#

EK Basic

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

Arctic liquid freezer ii

#

$120

wanton cliff
#

I’ve seen them for cheaper

#

240mm

brittle tinsel
#

Yeah 360mm

#

Everyone is out of stock and won’t even list prices of 360mm variant

wanton cliff
#

Get an EK 360mm then

#

Ez

worn wave
#

Looks great also

wanton cliff
#

Unless you have a burning hate for RGB

worn wave
#

Also vardar fans

#

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-basic-360

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions
EK-AIO Basic 360

This triple-fan All-In-One liquid cooling solution is a sealed, maintenance-free system that combines best-of-class performance with a minimalistic black design. The universally compatible CPU block fits all the latest Intel and AMD CPU sockets. Requiring a triple fan mount makes it compatible with larger case designs.

wanton cliff
#

Yes

#

Vardar good

glad silo
#

why did ching get banned

muted patio
#

Dm ing discord invites.

worn wave
wanton cliff
#

Against rules

#

No self advertising

#

And no DMing people

#

Especially with links for self advertising

#

What are you, an alt?

worn wave
#

Prob a friend

wanton cliff
#

I’m betting money it’s an alt

#

$10

worn wave
#

Ill bet a broken 4GB DDR4 stick

wanton cliff
#

I’ll bet a DDR4 8gb 3600mhz CL18 with a broken pin that it’s an alt

#

G.Skill TridentZ too

worn wave
#

Gskill black pcb no heatsink

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wanton cliff
#

He’s not in PCMR tho

wanton cliff
worn wave
#

I used to be in LTT discord

#

then i got banned

wanton cliff
#

Why lol

worn wave
#

I wanted to test how strict the bot was

wanton cliff
#

Heh

worn wave
#

their bot kinda is annoying

#

abunch of people who got banned made our own smaller discord

wanton cliff
#

O rlly? Lol

#

Oh hey

#

I don’t have you as a friend

#

Mind adding me?

worn wave
#

Sorry I turned my requests off