#building-and-recc-chat

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muted patio
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1/8"

little osprey
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Something to hold the motherboard sturdy

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cause if aluminium is too thin

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it seems like tinfoil

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debating materials to use to hold the motherboard sturdy

muted patio
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1/8" aluminum is more than enough

little osprey
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But then, cause a backpack constantly shakes

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and the back would have to be perfectly flat, and couldn't be crooked. I was debating something like this.

muted patio
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You're also forgetting ram sticking up

muted patio
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and other connections

little osprey
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Lmao

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That might work

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just would need to figure out how to mount it inside the bag lol.

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since fabric is loose

potent portal
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Cut the part of the foot off that would stick into your back and you've got a frame for all your parts

little osprey
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and like either bolt it? or screw it?

potent portal
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What I linked is basically a computer case without the panels.
You could make grommet holes to attach to

little osprey
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Hmm, that honestly seems like a good idea.

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I wonder if I need a less looser fabric?

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because if the motherboard doesn't sit in perfectly flat.

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it could shake and damage.

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cause tbh, i think that could carry a atx board.

potent portal
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I still say the backpack/suitcase combo would work best, it unzips all the way for free airflow

little osprey
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wait, or just mount the pc to a suitcase?

potent portal
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I suggested that like a week ago dude lol

little osprey
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Lol

potent portal
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You said hard turns would be tricky

little osprey
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So what would be the perfered way of mounting then?

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i def have extra suitcases.

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Cause the thing is, IDK where I would get special standoffs.

little osprey
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like make standoffs similar in a fashion of actual cases.

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z590s supports 10th gen right ? 🤔

potent portal
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If you mount everything to a frame like the one I linked you don't need standoffs, and it would handle grounding too

little osprey
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and screwing through fabric sounds like a no bueno.

potent portal
little osprey
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Oh.

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That might be true. So I could just bolt the frame to the suitcase.

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Im sure it will have bolting holes.

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wanna buy z590 with 10700k 🤔

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Yep.

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Oh, that might work nicely.

potent portal
little osprey
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it will be expensive ig 🤔

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PCIE 4.0 Riser lol

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and then it should work wonders, thanks. and im sure it fits even more fans.

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10th gen was expensive when they out too

potent portal
little osprey
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Oh.

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I would expect intake

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exhaust etc.

potent portal
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Nope, airflow like that is only required on a closed case

little osprey
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Oh nice.

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so just the GPU, CPU Fan, Ram, Motherboard

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damn that might work

potent portal
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And power supply

little osprey
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now the second factor lul. It would be nice taking it out of the case.

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it wouldn't be like having to unscrew it everyday

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I could just straight up move it to my desk

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lol

potent portal
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Make a quick release for the frame

little osprey
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Yeah and that seems perfect.

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Lol.

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time to bring my 3070 to school

pliant slate
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big brain usage of canadian winter

severe axle
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@pliant slate please tell me that is a joke

little osprey
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My eyes hurt. Please

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Please

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your blinding me

pliant slate
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rgb lyfe

little osprey
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kekw SMH RGB

stoic island
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Go outside and shovel snow into that >:D

little osprey
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Overpaid christmas lights

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Overpaid lights.

pliant slate
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true

little osprey
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I can hang christmas tree lights on my pc

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and call it rgb

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and someone would ask to buy it lol

pliant slate
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rgb gives me no extra frames Sadge

potent portal
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That just means you need to overclock the RGB

little osprey
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lol.

pliant slate
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whoa will my rgb lights start rotating faster

little osprey
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/ s

potent portal
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It's like cars, racing stripes didn't make it faster? Paint FLAMES

desert gulch
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yes

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lol i wanted to put a twin gt stripe on my truck

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prolly isnt fast enough to deserve it tho lol

wanton cliff
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flames make cars go faster

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this is a proven fact

dense wigeon
desert gulch
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yes

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but id get a better ssd

wanton cliff
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agreed

desert gulch
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imo if you will boot off it

wanton cliff
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and better board

desert gulch
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mhmm

wanton cliff
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assuming you dont already own it

dense wigeon
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Not yet, do you all have recommendations ?

small osprey
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why does fire = fast

wanton cliff
small osprey
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why not just draw light on the side of your car smhmyhead

wanton cliff
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but for cars

small osprey
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hm that makes sense

dense wigeon
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And what ssd ? @desert gulch

wanton cliff
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Sabrent Rocket

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right now at least

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lemme remember which one

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the one that this guy recommends

little osprey
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Finally found one for not a dead awful price pepe3090

wanton cliff
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that a 3080?

still roostBOT
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Komm, süßer Tod#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wanton cliff
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lucky person

little osprey
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Lmao

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$750 feelsBIRTHDAYman

wanton cliff
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wow

little osprey
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Wish I could’ve gotten cheaper but oh well

dense wigeon
wanton cliff
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also I recommended an SSD as well

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scroll up and click the link

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choose the size you want

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if either are too expensive for you, come back here

little osprey
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How much are they Sara?

wanton cliff
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how much are what?

little osprey
wanton cliff
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the 256gb one only $45

little osprey
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Oh okay

wanton cliff
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512 is $70

little osprey
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Not too terrible I guess

wanton cliff
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1tb is $129

little osprey
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Oh?

wanton cliff
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2tb is $249

little osprey
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Can I post Amazon links in here?

wanton cliff
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4tb is $701

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8tb $1468

dense wigeon
wanton cliff
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good deal

wanton cliff
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yeah that one is great

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the PSU

little osprey
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1TB $109

dense wigeon
wanton cliff
hollow grail
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sata bad

wanton cliff
hollow grail
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also 860 bad

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870 good

dense wigeon
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I’m a beginner lol

wanton cliff
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actually wait

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what is your full budget

hollow grail
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sara will make u a build list cause she cool

wanton cliff
little osprey
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^

dense wigeon
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So with the case, video card, monitor, something around 1400$

wanton cliff
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ok

dense wigeon
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I have the key board and mouse

wanton cliff
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ok, one sec

little osprey
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Do you need GPU?

wanton cliff
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yeah, I assume you are going to be gaming?

dense wigeon
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If I can get my hands on the 3060

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Yeah!

hollow grail
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yeah are u gaming

wanton cliff
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3060Ti better for gaming

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and better for 1k budget

little osprey
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I can probably find you a 2080 super/Ti for around $800

hollow grail
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1/10 deal

dense wigeon
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Lmao

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They’re not replenishing the 3060ti anytime soon?

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I’m flexible with the 1400, but ideally that

hollow grail
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they are

stoic island
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Restocks come every once in a bit

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few days

warm swift
little osprey
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Why does my pc keep crashing when trying to run a batch file and how do I fix it

dense wigeon
wanton cliff
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overkill cooler, bad ram

little osprey
wanton cliff
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and SSD

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and wrong mobo

little osprey
hollow grail
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lililabs is cracked tbh

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im gonna have to stop joking abt selling stuff here since mando might actually buy an instance

little osprey
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Set up website

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make look professional kek

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easy money

dense wigeon
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So what ram and which mother board is it ? Thanks for the feedback!

hollow grail
wanton cliff
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technically you got the right mobo, but with the bottom shaved off

little osprey
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how long till its done PogU

hollow grail
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cause im also having them make a custom API

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honestly probably a little while

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is not ez to make api

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its why im just manually provisioning instances rn

austere wagon
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well my power supply came today

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and

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im doing stress test right now and its running fine no crash

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thanks vintage for the help it is very much appreciated

stoic island
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@warm swift what about it?

wanton cliff
hollow grail
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i have standards

wanton cliff
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Lmao

still roostBOT
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Vokon#9467 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

warm swift
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why did it say Duplicated

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aight then

warm swift
stoic island
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okay then

fossil halo
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oh no

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corsair rgb hubs are

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theres like 34570450924652984765234785962 cables

wanton cliff
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You need to be regular before you send links

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MEE6 level 3 or above

buoyant junco
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ah, gotcha.

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ah well.

wanton cliff
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Just talk in general for a little while

buoyant junco
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well I don't have anything to talk about. lol

wanton cliff
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Or describe what you were trying to send

buoyant junco
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guess I can just write out the list. blah.

wanton cliff
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Was it a Newegg list or a PcPartPicker list?

small osprey
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you can send pcpp lists

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as a rookie

fossil halo
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pcpp is poggers

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dm me the link ill send it here

buoyant junco
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so, I already bought everything, so I feel like my request was a bit backwards anyway, but just wanted opinions on what I got, as far as just general opinions, and/or what I could have done better .

fossil halo
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oh lmao

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just send specs here or dm me link

buoyant junco
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missing a GPU because, well we all know why

fossil halo
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ah yes

buoyant junco
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  1. Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor w/ Intel UHD Graphics 630
  2. MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
  3. MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual 120mm PWM Fans, RGB Lighting Controlled by Software
  4. PNY CS2130 M.2 NVMe Solid State Drive - M280CS2130-500-RB
  5. PNY CS2130 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4, NVMe 1.3 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) M280CS2130-1TB-RB
  6. Rosewill PMG750 750W ATX Full Modular Gaming Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Single +12V Rail, Continuous Power, Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready, SLI & Crossfire Ready
  7. G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GVK
fossil halo
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igpu build or gt 710 build

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oh ok

buoyant junco
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I just copied the text from my order, wasn't that hard, just being lazy. lol

fossil halo
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oh lmfao

buoyant junco
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budget is around 1500 without GPU

fossil halo
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um

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dont know what i think about the ssd's

buoyant junco
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there was a case in tehre for 150 but I left that out

fossil halo
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and the aio might not have been the best deal ever

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but otherwise like

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i dont think theres anything particularly wrong with it

buoyant junco
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yeah, I don't think PNY is terribly high up on anyone's list (at least that's the impression I get) but I've always had them and never had issues.

fossil halo
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yea

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i mean

buoyant junco
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what would you take instead? anything similar price point or that would still fall within the budget range?

fossil halo
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pcie 3.0

stoic island
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eh, the PNY drive ain't terrible, dram cache on the small side though

fossil halo
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but ig not much of a difference

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not the worst thing in the world

stoic island
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I'd say a Pilot E should've been cheaper

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but eh

wanton cliff
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Coulda gotten better SSDs

fossil halo
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yea

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rest is fine ish

wanton cliff
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Everything else is pretty fine I think?

fossil halo
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msi aio is ok but like u can get better

stoic island
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@buoyant junco I just don't like that aio, otherwise decent

fossil halo
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yea

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i want an ek aio

stoic island
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and the psu is eh

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Can't find it

muted patio
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Me neither

stoic island
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kinda scary

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ah it's recent @muted patio , listing created dec 2020, maybe that's why?

muted patio
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Makes me think of GIgabyte with PGM there

stoic island
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lol

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I mean, rosewill should have enough experience to not make a p-gm

wanton cliff
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I need to sell my PGM

muted patio
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Rebrand tho

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IDK

buoyant junco
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so, what's wrong with the aio? first time trying liquid cooling and with the crappy airflow in the case I got, I thought it might help

stoic island
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It's just low performance for what it is

wanton cliff
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It’s just not the greatest, long story short

stoic island
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It's worse than standard asetech iirc

gusty abyss
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if you really want the msi aesthetic it's not like it'll brick ya

muted patio
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AIO doesn't make up for crappy case airflow, that's all

stoic island
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The influx of manufacturers trying to get around the asetech patent brought with it some good and some bad

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EK-AIO and freezer ii as good examples of good non-asetech pumps

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MSI on the other end, just a decent bit worse than asetech iirc

muted patio
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H150i Pro XT as well

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For a non-asetek unit. Coolit pump

gusty abyss
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elite capellix Yes

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same thing but shinier lul

dense wigeon
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Don’t mean to ask too many questions here... just needed guidance

muted patio
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You really should up that ram speed to 3600 mhz

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Otherwise it looks fine

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AMD likes speedy RAM

stoic island
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You can get a nice monitor for cheaper, just as a side note

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Compatibility looks fine

dense wigeon
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Awesome! Thanks guys. Any recommendations for the ram and monitor @stoic island @muted patio ?

stoic island
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MSI g241 for the monitor, 190$ on Newegg

stoic island
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For ram, Crucial ballistix 3600mhz cl16 for ~86$ ^

hollow grail
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pny makes good gpus tho

dense wigeon
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Thank you guys ! @stoic island @muted patio

gusty abyss
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dang that's a kinda nice price for that ram right now

stoic island
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:)

muted patio
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ballistix OP

hollow grail
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vintage did u see the adata kit

gusty abyss
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I'm too used to stuff being out of stock LOL

muted patio
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Adata no thanks. Not after the SSD debacle, I won't recommend lol. I'll do silicon power before that

hollow grail
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4133mhz baby

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for like 120

muted patio
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not because the ram is bad but because business practices

hollow grail
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yeah i hate adata

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but

fossil halo
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i thought that pny is bad

hollow grail
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ill use this in builds just to say insane ram speed

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anyone who told you pny is bad is kinda an idiot

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they just do literally nothing to be considered good

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they also do nothing to be considered bad

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they kind of just exist

fossil halo
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ah i see

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they are pretty cheap tho arent they

gusty abyss
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pny isn't a gamer brand is the problem

fossil halo
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lmfao

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so no rgb

gusty abyss
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no mega overclock

fossil halo
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sheeeesh this kinda clean ngl actually

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if its not expensive might go for it

gusty pasture
gusty abyss
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honestly yeah lol

fossil halo
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no like actually tho

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i low key like that design more than anythign else i have seen so far

muted patio
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I kinda agree

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RGb without being obnoxious

fossil halo
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yea

muted patio
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Just a nice clean line of lighting

gusty abyss
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bar of lighting around that rim not bad

fossil halo
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fr

buoyant junco
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I guess since I'm new to this I'm trying to understand what I should be keeping my eye out for when picking an aio then so I can make a better decision. I already made a mistake with the NZXT 510 elite. lol

gusty abyss
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I love how they show you a picture of it in every orientation except how it will be in a normal case lol

fossil halo
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i hate that about gpu companies

fossil halo
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gamers nexus anything reviews

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gamers nexus is like 100% information 0% entertainment

muted patio
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Steve puts me to sleep

gusty abyss
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except when he's ripping MSI a new one for whatever bull they pulled last

fossil halo
dense wigeon
muted patio
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Ehhhhhh

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not really

dense wigeon
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Hahaha

muted patio
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intel 600p

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3000 mhz ram

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poopy motherboard

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pass

gusty abyss
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from reviews ABS has doa components uncomfortably often

fossil halo
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yo i actually cant get over how clean that pny card is

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so nice

dense wigeon
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Interesting, I guess they’re marketing that graphics card instead

fossil halo
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wdym

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wow dartagnan

dense wigeon
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I meant the link I had, pny is actually nice

fossil halo
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oh lmfao

dense wigeon
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Components suck, but the 3070 is readily available

fossil halo
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true

wanton cliff
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there are always better options

fossil halo
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that is true

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they are clean tho

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with a lower end gpu like the 3060 12g i dont think taht it really makes much of a difference tho

hollow grail
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nah pny one of the better brands

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id go evga>asus>pny>msi>gigabyte>all other brands>zotac

fossil halo
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wow shiet this turnover is like the time when someone here told me the s12iii was good

wanton cliff
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heh

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zotac

fossil halo
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zotac is like

hollow grail
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z omegalul tac

fossil halo
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their cards are ugly

muted patio
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Who told you S12III is good??

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Cuz no

fossil halo
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idk who it was

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i know it was someone

wanton cliff
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zotac is the personification of OMEGALUL

fossil halo
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lmao

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wait whats like

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so bad about zotac tho

wanton cliff
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cooling

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is

fossil halo
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oh really

wanton cliff
fossil halo
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i just thought it was like

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there

wanton cliff
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look at emote name

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lol

fossil halo
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lmao

steel tartan
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My pc restarted while I was watching yt could it be drivers or sum else I just put a new cpu cooler on and it didn’t do if before

fossil halo
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its not at any major retailers

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the pny card

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sadge

gusty abyss
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well the 3060 isn't out yet

fossil halo
gusty abyss
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right?

fossil halo
steel tartan
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Yea lol

fossil halo
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but the 3060ti version isnt at any major retailers so i assumed that it would be there

steel tartan
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There’s thermal paste I’m just watching yt and restarted

fossil halo
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cdw has it tho

gusty abyss
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ohhhh

fossil halo
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cdw is pretty good actually

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shipping isnt the best thing in the world

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but its possibl

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e

gusty abyss
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the more I look at this card the more I want it

wanton cliff
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which card?

gusty abyss
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today's shuffle didn't even have gpus, blehhhh

wanton cliff
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rip

gusty abyss
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the pny card

fossil halo
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sameee

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14539487534568236492547562906520562x better than this stupid mf

gusty abyss
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lol

hollow grail
fossil halo
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it is

hollow grail
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tired of 3 braincell ppl saying "gpu bad at gaming therefore it bad"

fossil halo
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that is true

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i should elaborate

hollow grail
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huge market for just display adapters

fossil halo
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yea

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thats the reason i got it

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bc no igpu in 3700x

fossil halo
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its good but not for the purpose i want it for

potent prairie
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Anyone have recommendations for smallest mATX or mITX case under $60 that is OK to build in and isn't a total oven?

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Preferably smaller than the Rosewill FBM-X2

wanton cliff
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heh

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"under 60"

potent prairie
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Ya, budget

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under $75 would be OK

austere vale
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might not be the best, but I got COUGAR MG120-G RGB in Black. came with 3 x 120mm rgb fans. looks like you can get them around $60. houses my 3700x and rtx 3070 via mATX board, was easy to build in and although I'm only air cooled with 5 fans + cpu i don't see temps beyond 70c after prolonged gaming

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supports front and top mount AIO's also

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don't believe it will be quite as small as the rosewill though

wanton cliff
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link it lol

potent prairie
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I'll look into that! I'll specify, this is for a business build, so flash/RGB would be a negative

austere vale
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the case comes in non rgb version

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even cheaper

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though you could probably do cheaper if you don't want a window in it

potent prairie
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Probably a no b/c the glass, yeah

wanton cliff
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you can always turn RGB off

potent prairie
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True, but I'd rather pay less and not have it in the first place

austere vale
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no side window

potent prairie
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How a cheap case that fits an mATX board, but take a slim gpu? Considering integrated graphics or something else cheap, just to drive displays

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again, no rgb or glass

steel tartan
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Yea it still randomly restarts drivers are updated I’m just sitting on the loading screen of valorant and it shut down

ancient zephyr
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hey so if i wanted to use a pc for Minecraft, recording minecraft, editing minecraft, using shaders at 60fps minecraft, and gta at 30fps atleast whats my budget gonna be like

little osprey
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Yo

ancient zephyr
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hi

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pls help

little osprey
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Kk what's the budget

ancient zephyr
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thats what im asking

patent canyon
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Looking for info on SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0

ancient zephyr
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if i wanted those things, how much (approx) do you think itd be

little osprey
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Oh you want me to make a list then show you

ancient zephyr
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no

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i want to know the general amount of money that might cost

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im guessing 800 - 1000?

little osprey
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Ok

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Um......

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Depends

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On the shader pack and anything else in minecraft your going to use

ancient zephyr
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forget the shaders actually

little osprey
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That's your monitor rez

full atlas
ancient zephyr
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i just want good frames with shaders

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that comes from the graphics card

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not the monitor

little osprey
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Take it up with someone else that knows crypto to get a confirmation

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@ancient zephyr bro whats the rez of monitor

ancient zephyr
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i dont have a monitor lmao

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2160p?

full atlas
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My 580 in my personal rig wasn’t half bad besides the fact it kept crashing

little osprey
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Well check

full atlas
little osprey
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I don't want to build a system for a 1080p then you have a 4k monitor

little osprey
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@wanton cliff

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That guy

full atlas
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Ok thx

little osprey
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Np

stoic island
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well

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mando is mining person

little osprey
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Hi there

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@ancient zephyr

ancient zephyr
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did you get price yet

little osprey
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So did you find the monitor resolution

ancient zephyr
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2160p

little osprey
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Ok thx I will build one now

ancient zephyr
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no build

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just estimate cost

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@little osprey

little osprey
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More then 1k

ancient zephyr
#

how much more

little osprey
#

Depending on the parts used

#

Hm....

pliant lake
#

1.7K usd for 4k gaming?

ancient zephyr
#

Well i definitely want a NVIDIA GTX 3080

#

and Intel Core i7 Processor

stoic island
#

3080 build would cost you 1500$ at least

ancient zephyr
#

with 32GB RAM

little osprey
#

Ryzen 7 5th gen be better

ancient zephyr
#

oh darn

#

ok

stoic island
#

with those requirements I'd say 1700-1800$

ancient zephyr
#

ill just buy a prebuilt dang

stoic island
#

@ancient zephyr prebuilt goes higher

ancient zephyr
#

WHAT

stoic island
#

You want 3080 with i7 and 32gb ram

#

prebuilt prob costs you 2000$ ngl

little osprey
#

Mr1111 he needs it 60 fps on 2160p. Minecraft + shaders

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And to stream/ rec

stoic island
#

Eh, 3070 with dlss might work if it's bedrock

little osprey
#

With all of that

stoic island
#

well shaders

#

so java

little osprey
#

Ye

stoic island
#

4k is just annoying

small osprey
#

3080 is rtx card lol

ancient zephyr
#

whats the difference between ryzen and intel processors

small osprey
#

a lot

little osprey
#

So he wants a 4k 60fps shader minecraft. +Stream and record

ancient zephyr
#

no

#

no

stoic island
#

They're very different architecturally wise, price wise, feature wise

little osprey
#

That's 2k+

ancient zephyr
#

1080p

little osprey
#

Bruh

small osprey
#

1080p??

stoic island
#

1080p much easier

ancient zephyr
#

1080p yes

little osprey
small osprey
#

1.2k-1.5k

ancient zephyr
#

TEN EIGHTY P

stoic island
#

prob 1200$ build

ancient zephyr
#

ok

#

thanks

#

bye

little osprey
#

Really

#

He just said 2160p

small osprey
#

lmao he left the server

stoic island
#

lmao

little osprey
#

Well what ever he won't get dem 60fps + shader on minecraft when record/streaming. 1080p needs about an 1.5K and up

stoic island
#

what

#

3060ti should do fine at 1080p with shaders while streaming

#

hell, 3060 might, we dont have great perf numbers on it yet tho

little osprey
#

But da cpu, ram,

#

Minecraft is a cpu heavy game

stoic island
#

I wouldn't say that

#

it's single thread/core heavy

#

java at least

little osprey
#

Ye u right

stoic island
#

So something like a 10600k will work great

small osprey
#

yea it doesnt need 1.5k

#

you could even use a 10400 with fast ram and 3060ti and be fine

stoic island
#

1200$ should get you a 10600k+3060ti build if 3060ti msrp

little osprey
#

And it depends on the shader pack as well

#

He will need to go with a 3060ti due to 3060 is more then itkekw kekw

small osprey
#

you’re underestimating the 3060ti

wanton cliff
small osprey
#

its a 2080s (perf wise)

stoic island
#

lol

little osprey
#

My bad

small osprey
#

but that guy was really dumb

little osprey
#

@wanton cliff my b, I ment girl

wanton cliff
#

just correcting you

#

i mean

little osprey
#

I know my b

wanton cliff
#

ive only known you for a year and a half

stoic island
#

wait

#

@wanton cliff where's the real lili

little osprey
#

@stoic island the reason why I said 1.5k and above is because he og said 2160p res

stoic island
#

Yes, I understand that, but he changed to saying 1080p

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

1080 yeah a 1000-1200$ would work wonders

small osprey
little osprey
#

Oh yandere mode?

stoic island
#

:(

wanton cliff
#

heh

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

we switched names

#

lol

little osprey
#

I am trying my best to get max

stoic island
#

@little osprey floppa was doing some crazy rx570 OCs, go ask him

little osprey
#

Na I know what I am doing plus I have parts coming so not that worryed

#

I will max volt and max the core clock

stoic island
#

I mean crazy as in like

#

vbios mods

little osprey
#

Oh

stoic island
#

pretty sure he's still top 10 on some rx570 3dmark runs

little osprey
#

Intresting I am actually trying to get into that

wanton cliff
#

speaking of

#

imma run 3dmark rn

stoic island
#

profanities >:(

small osprey
stoic island
#

I thought he had some like #5s

wanton cliff
#

boutta ping vintage

little osprey
#

Hey I tryed to censor it

stoic island
#

don't think he got any #1

small osprey
#

hm

stoic island
#

vintage bouta ban xD

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

Really

#

Bruh

#

Fine

stoic island
#

holy * will be fine

#

just

muted patio
#

Going around the filter is a no no

stoic island
#

don't type the word

small osprey
#

i think he has a top %0.01 percent 570?

stoic island
#

yea for sure

little osprey
#

Fine no

#

Np

#

dud

#

dumb

muted patio
#

Thx

little osprey
#

i think

stoic island
#

yea that's what I thought

small osprey
#

god 570

little osprey
#

Welp imma be top 15 on the rx 560 run soon

#

See yeah lovely people laterkekw

wanton cliff
#

Can VRAM temps affect USB devices?

#

Mine keep acting like they are being unplugged

muted patio
#

Uhoh

#

X570?

#

@wanton cliff You know X570 has some USB issues yeah? news just came out a couple days ago.

wanton cliff
#

Ok but it literally just started happening to me

muted patio
#

Yeah, it can happen out of the blue

#

Exactly as you describe

cursive wharf
#

usb on chipset or CPU side?

muted patio
#

SIr Fitz was mentioning it's due to the SoC voltage not staying where it needs to be

#

It can be fixed by manually setting the SoC voltage

cursive wharf
#

usb plugged into chipset side should be fine too

stoic island
#

"The strangest thing about the issue is that it seems to be new -- because X570 and B550 boards aren’t."

muted patio
#

Yes

stoic island
#

Yea

wanton cliff
#

Weird

cursive wharf
#

"new"

muted patio
#

" and it looks like the issue is mostly occurring in systems with new RTX GPUs."

cursive wharf
#

It has been happening for a while, only just been ignored

muted patio
#

"The first port of call: turning off "c-states" in the BIOS. It won’t carry a penalty, and it can halve the frequency of disconnects. But if that doesn’t work, your remaining options are to switch from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0 or to go through the BIOS and disable every USB port/header you’re not using. Doing all three will stop the disconnections for most people, but not for power users. Streamers with a capture card, microphone, webcam, and the usual batch of peripherals are out of luck, basically."

gusty abyss
#

it's not on any specific subset of boards? just any x570/b550?

muted patio
muted patio
gusty abyss
#

yeesh

main whale
#

Wait, so if I plug an RTX card in my B550, the USB devices would potentially get screwy?

cursive wharf
#

I should try the SoC voltage change. I just ended up moving most of my USBs to chipset to fix it

muted patio
#

Mebbe

#

mebbe not

#

I have no issues

muted patio
cursive wharf
#

anyone with everything plugged into chipset controlled USBs shouldnt have issues afaik

muted patio
#

OTOH, my PCI-E slot is also Gen 3 due to riser card

cursive wharf
#

My keebs dislikes chipset USBs so I had to move it to CPU, and to keep my USBs organized I moved my webcam to CPU as well. Got random disconnects, so I moved my cam back to chipset and kept keeb on CPU and it all worked out

#

is an analog keeb and the xbox driver part dislikes being on chipset USBs for some reason

muted patio
#

INteresting. Only personal issue I've had with USB is WiFi adapters on USB 3 ports. Didn't like it

cursive wharf
#

think that was my second USB issue. Had smth before which only liked 2.0 or smth. Cant remember what it was now

main whale
#

I only have a single USB 2.0 plugged in, and it's a divider: one for a keyboard and the other for a mouse.

silk kraken
#

is it okay if I ask questions about pcs in here. I need help cause I am a noob at pcs.

muted patio
#

yes

silk kraken
#

Okay, the stuff I am very confused is the long names that they put on the products.

muted patio
#

such as?

silk kraken
#

this is just an example

#

CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model CMW32GX4M2D3600C18

#

like can you break it down what it means?

muted patio
#

32GB is the ram quantity

#

2x16 Gb means you get two sticks of ram

#

288 PIN is the ram slot it fits in

#

DDR4 3600 (PC4 28880) is the speed

#

Intel XMP 2.0 means you can go into the BIOS and turn on XMP to have it auto set the rated speed

#

And the model is the model number

silk kraken
#

ohhhh okay

#

DDR4 is the type of ram?

muted patio
#

Yes

#

Anything new will use it

#

Older machines use DDR3

silk kraken
#

oh okay

#

my budget is 1000, any RAM you recommend?

muted patio
#

Depends on motherboard and CPU

#

What do you have or are getting?

silk kraken
#

i just started to pick out the parts

#

do you think I should start with the motherboard first?

small osprey
#

well, do you want intel or amd

silk kraken
#

amd

small osprey
#

hm for 1k, intel might be better actually

muted patio
#

Honestly, if goin for AMD 3600, the intel 10400F is faster at games and things

small osprey
#

a 10400 and 3060ti

muted patio
#

yes

#

Actually

small osprey
#

and b560 board with some fast ram

stoic island
#

@silk kraken what's the build going to be for?

silk kraken
#

so you guys think I should get intel instead of amd?

muted patio
#

Gaming rig yeah?

silk kraken
stoic island
#

(By the way, to make things clear, the suggestions we make will be SITUATIONAL, things could change tomorrow and part choices will have to change)

stoic island
#

This isn't a "Intel > AMD" brand wise thing, Intel just has cheaper parts that are in stock at the moment

small osprey
#

^^

small osprey
#

intel better budget value rn

stoic island
#

Need to make things clear first

silk kraken
#

oh okay

stoic island
#

Anyways, do you think you can get a 3060 on launch day, or a 3060ti at msrp?

muted patio
#

PCPP doesn't have B560 yet. I'm sad

stoic island
#

That'll be the backbone of any low-mid range build as of right now

#

@muted patio yea, need to make custom parts and just link wegg :(

silk kraken
#

my max is $1000

silk kraken
#

I am learning what ti means and all the names that are used when talking about pc parts

stoic island
#

@silk kraken well, set price isn't the issue for new parts right now, the issue is getting your hands on a card at the normal price

#

Well, basically, they mean nothing other than identifying a specific part, but generally, a "ti" ending means slightly better, but not better enough to be a bigger number

#

3060ti is better than 3060, but not quite as good as the 3070, as an example.

silk kraken
#

ohhhh okay

#

so the ti is like the "pro" for example of an iphone 8

muted patio
#

Kinda, yeah

#

Uprated model

stoic island
#

You could think of it that way, I don't really pay attention to apple, but close enough

silk kraken
#

okay

stoic island
#

Heh, wouldn't call it updated when 3060ti released before 3060 xD

silk kraken
#

lol

#

so what part should I be looking for first?

muted patio
#

Read the word again

stoic island
#

:p

muted patio
#

LOL!

stoic island
#

Just not my day

muted patio
#

It's good

#

I don't use that word very often, I'll find a new one for that reason

#

But yeah, it's really similar to iPhone S and PRO

silk kraken
#

ok

muted patio
#

TI for nVidia is the "high end" version

#

Just like for AMD XT is the high end version of the GPU

silk kraken
#

oh okay

stoic island
#

Amd needs to get on with releasing a lower end sku >:(

silk kraken
#

so the motherboard will affect wha type of gpu and ram and cpu you get right?

stoic island
#

Just the ram and cpu

#

Cpu-ram-mobo go hand in hand

silk kraken
#

okay

#

sorry that I am asking too much questions

stoic island
#

It's alright, not that many at all

silk kraken
#

are there types of motherboards, like how there are types of RAMs?

muted patio
#

Of course. Those are the chipset numbers like B460, Z490, X570, B450, etc

stoic island
#

Well, the main distinguishing factor is the socket (Which cpu it fits), and then there's somewhat of a quality scale with the chipsets on each generation. Example:
Socket AM4 (AMD)
A520 low end, B550 mid-high, X570 high
Socket LGA1200 (Intel)
H510 low end, B560 mid end, Z590 high

#

A lot more complicated, but that's the basics, and how the price scales.

silk kraken
#

yea pretty complicated but I will get the hang of it

stoic island
#

You'll get there :)

silk kraken
#

is MSI a good company that makes motherboards?

stoic island
#

Well, another important principle in PC building is this

silk kraken
#

oh okay

stoic island
#

You should always go by the model, not the brand, as every brand makes good and bad products.

silk kraken
#

yea true

stoic island
#

Great recent example is Gigabyte, their high end gpu/mobos can be pretty nice, and then they have a PSU that literally blew up

silk kraken
#

oh okay

stoic island
#

And an example that'll pertain more to your situation, MSI made some very crappy x570 boards that had VRMs that overheated, and then they made the beauty that is the x570 Unify on the high end, and a very good board that was the x570 Tomahawk wifi.

little osprey
#

Can I make a gaming pc with dual cpu?

#

I feel like this should be a thing

muted patio
#

Mmmmm...any dual cpu thing will be older xeon

little osprey
#

Think about it

#

Newer dual cpu

#

Dual i9-10900k

#

3090

#

I mean cmon

#

Wouldn’t that be a beast? Guaranteed no stutter

stoic island
#

Think about motherboards that can fit it

#

That's your main constraint

muted patio
#

Shouldnt have stutters with 10900k anyway

little osprey
#

I mean make a wall mounted pc

stoic island
#

Because no motherboards do that, since Intel never made anything to let you use dual 10900ks

little osprey
#

Well lookin here we have the serious one to ruin the fun

stoic island
#

@little osprey you know how you need SLI for multiple GPUs to work in games? Firmware and other hardware changes are needed to get dual CPUs to work, that's why you don't really see multi-cpu consumer boards.

#

I mean, it's a novel idea, if it was anywhere near possible

little osprey
#

it’s not impossible

#

Just because no one has bothered to try it doesn’t mean impossible

#

Until they fail left right and backwards then we can say impossible

stoic island
#

How do you propose fitting 2 lga1200 CPUs on a board?

little osprey
#

Making a new board duh

stoic island
#

I mean, if you have an idea, it might be interesting

#

...

little osprey
#

Might be a larger board but I’m fairly a case like mine would fit it even

stoic island
#

If you could convince a mobo maker to work with Intel to make multi cpu a possibility on 10th gen, and produce those boards, go ahead.

#

It's just rare you ever get to get custom orders into large manufacturers, for them to agree, and even more rare for them to work with R&D of an oem

#

If you think you can make that happen, go ahead, just usually extremely hard for us humans who are not much but walking wallets to companies :p

worn wave
#

Intel won't do dual consumer CPUs

#

Only for their high end xeons

stoic island
#

@worn wave technically maybe mayyyyybe they might work on it with their rnd division to make it work

#

But yea

#

Practically impossible

worn wave
#

They wont for sure though

#

They have zero reason to

stoic island
#

Who knows maybe that guy was elon musk

#

And wanted to invest billions in Intel for a condition

#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

Dat 0.000000001% chance

muted patio
#

If oyu really need that many cores, there's always EPYC

potent portal
#

Just wait for the next TR if epyc doesn't fit the bill

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

alright im getting sick of this

#

how do i fix these damn USBs

muted patio
#

Few things to try

#

Stand by

#

"The first port of call: turning off "c-states" in the BIOS. It won’t carry a penalty, and it can halve the frequency of disconnects. But if that doesn’t work, your remaining options are to switch from PCIe 4.0 to PCIe 3.0 or to go through the BIOS and disable every USB port/header you’re not using. Doing all three will stop the disconnections for most people, but not for power users. Streamers with a capture card, microphone, webcam, and the usual batch of peripherals are out of luck, basically."

#

If that doesn't work, message Sir Fitz about adjusting SoC voltage

wanton cliff
#

I am using all my ports

#

so c states

#

mind walking me through that?

#

Vintage?

#

You still there?

muted patio
#

Uh

#

No idea TBH, never seen those in the BIOS

wanton cliff
#

Pcie 3.0 then?

muted patio
#

yeah, def worth a try for the GPU slot

autumn wolf
#

problems with usb with gen 4 stuff?

wanton cliff
#

Maybe

#

They keep disconnecting randomly

#

All of them

#

Ffs

muted patio
#

Yeah, it's the X570 issue

wanton cliff
#

Neither post screen nor bios will show up

#

Ffs

autumn wolf
#

its an issue amd talked on, b550 and x570 boards. riser cables also have a problem rn because of gen 4 to gen 4

#

a workaround is witching to gen3 in bios

muted patio
#

Yes

wanton cliff
#

That’s another problem

muted patio
#

I gotta look at he c states tho

wanton cliff
#

Nothing showing up when I mash F2

#

And post screen doesn’t show up

#

Only windows

autumn wolf
#

could enter bios from windows

muted patio
#

Bios is DEL silly

wanton cliff
#

Or F2 on Asus

muted patio
#

for TUF X570

#

DEL never fails me

wanton cliff
#

Let’s see

#

If I press F2 nothing shows up but system stays on

autumn wolf
#

shift + restart never fails me happymike

wanton cliff
#

If I don’t press anything, windows just shows up

#

But no post screen from bios

muted patio
#

In the bios, Advanced menu, CPU configuration, scroll to bottom, CPU Power Management, CPU C-States, Disable.

wanton cliff
#

Lemme try a CMOS reset rq

#

Gimme 10 minutes

muted patio
#

kk

#

If this doesn't work, talk with Sir Fitz about voltages. He mentioned something about it the other day but I don't have specifics

wanton cliff
#

Idk what I ever did to this thing but I always seem to have so many problems with this system

#

More problems than even Kenzie

#

Damn PCIe slot holding the card up all on its own

#

No sag

#

Impressive

#

You know you’ve had your system mining for too long when even the backplate with no thermal pads connected to it is hot

#

As well as the CMOS battery

muted patio
#

@vivid gale @wanton cliff

#

Fitz is here

vivid gale
#

disabled cstates?

muted patio
#

They're doing that now

#

But having issues getting into BIOS

#

I figured while they were in there you could advise voltages.

#

X570 TUF WiFi if it matters

vivid gale
#

1.15 soc
1.0 vddp
1.05 vddg iod
1.05 vddg ccd

#

those should work for any generic xmp

wanton cliff
#

A piece of shattered glass from the factory fell out of my card -_-

muted patio
#

wat

wanton cliff
#

Some random piece of what looks like tempered glass

vivid gale
#

glass or clear plastic? Either way shouldnt be conductive at all

muted patio
#

wait, didn't yo shatter your side panel??

#

WIth your cast?

wanton cliff
#

The card wasn’t anywhere near

#

But yeah that’s tempered glass

south jewel
#

F

wanton cliff
#

And I thoroughly cleaned my area

muted patio
#

Fitz posted voltages above

#

Recommend you change those while in BIOS

wanton cliff
#

Cast

#

I had a cast on my hand

#

Still not posting into BIOS

vivid gale
#

any debugs leds or post code?

wanton cliff
#

Not before but there is a VGA light now

#

Oh wait

#

I didn’t plug in power

muted patio
#

XD

wanton cliff
#

Alright

#

Green light, still nothing

#

Weirdest thing to me is how there is no mobo screen before windows loads

#

Not even the little loading animation from windows themselves

#

Possibly

#

But that wouldn’t explain why I can’t get into BIOS without a blank screen

vivid gale
#

green light on asus debug leds?

wanton cliff
#

Wait, there is a windows loading thing now but no company logo or whatever

#

Nothing from Asus

wanton cliff
#

Boot light

vivid gale
#

got a boot drive in?

wanton cliff
#

And now I’m in windows

vivid gale
#

you should be able to get to bios without one, but might be asus things

wanton cliff
vivid gale
#

put the keyboard in different slots until you find one that's mostly working, so that you can get to bios

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

It obviously recognizes that I’m trying to get into bios because the screen stays black

hollow grail
#

whats hapen over here

wanton cliff
#

Only when I reset it does it get into windows

#

Which is normal

#

But nothing from the bios is appearing on screen

vivid gale
#

oh, you can boot to the recovery uefi

wanton cliff
#

Whether that be TUF logo or bios itself

wanton cliff
vivid gale
#

uhhhhhh

wanton cliff
#

Wait what

vivid gale
#

hold shift as you press restart I think?

wanton cliff
#

I reset cmos but XMP setting still on

#

Weird

hollow grail
#

what is sara doing

wanton cliff
hollow grail
#

buy good cpu next time

vivid gale
#

trying to get to bios to fix stuffs

wanton cliff
#

Stfu

hollow grail
#

team blue over here

wanton cliff
#

Domain stealing kalė

#

Anyways

#

Where to

hollow grail
#

use device

south jewel
#

@wanton cliff windows I think what happened that ur on blue screen

hollow grail
wanton cliff
hollow grail
south jewel
#

Ik it’s blue tho

wanton cliff
#

Heh

south jewel
#

Like what happened that ur there

wanton cliff
#

You are talking about BSOD but I got here on purpose

#

This is troubleshooting menu

hollow grail
south jewel
#

Oh then y u troubleshooting?

wanton cliff
#

USB devices keep disconnecting

#

“Restart to change UEFI firmware settings”

restart

#

Yes?

muted patio
#

yes

wanton cliff
#

Alright

#

Let’s see

#

What should I be seeing?

#

Nevermind, it’s still black anyways

potent portal
#

CMOS reset time yet?

wanton cliff
#

Already did

#

XMP setting kept though

#

Had it out for longer than 10 minutes

#

You need a lot more than that to become techie

potent portal
#

I always power drain the system when I reset it and hold the power button, and advise others to do the same usually

wanton cliff
#

Alright I’ll do it again

#

A lot easier to take this card out that my massive 5700 XT was

#

Which is nice

#

Power drain is just holding down power button, right?

#

Do I do that before or after taking out CMOS?

#

@potent portal

vivid gale
#

cmos out, unplugged psu and hold power button

potent portal
#

Unplug, remove battery, hold power, put battery back

#

That makes certain the capacitors are empty