#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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What does it mean if there is a red dot on the bottom right of my motherboard

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Like it's a solid red dot

prisma stag
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mine has a debug led that flashes red when i start my computer

little osprey
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Well yeah but it doesn't blink and the monitor is also saying the input is wrong

stoic island
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Where is it next to

little osprey
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Lemme take a pic

foggy hazel
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@little osprey read the manual and check if it isnt a debug LED

little osprey
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It turned off but one last problem

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My monitor

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Lol

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It says the input is incorrect but I did what it told me to and it says that and just goes into power saving mode

small osprey
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Lmao bad monitor

little osprey
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Well it's a good monitor

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Ooo

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P

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The first problem in the booklet

foggy hazel
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which output are you connected to @little osprey

little osprey
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By output do you mean like 144hz

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Or

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I'm kinda new at this

small osprey
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Connections like hdmi, dp, etc

little osprey
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Dp

foggy hazel
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where is your monitor plugged in?

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as in, where on the back of your machine?

languid nimbus
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gpu or mobo

small osprey
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Ah nvm misunderstood

foggy hazel
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close to the usb ports or far away from them?

little osprey
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Pretty close

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Does the wire for display plug into the gpu

small osprey
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Yes

little osprey
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Cause i can only plug in the dp in the video card

foggy hazel
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you are most likely plugged into the wrong place

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okay.

small osprey
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U should plug into gpu

foggy hazel
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just to verify @little osprey

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please post a picture of the back of your case

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with cables plugged in

little osprey
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Oh ok

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Sorry if it's too bright

foggy hazel
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nothing to worry about

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that looks right

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next step.

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mainboard model?

little osprey
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Z390 aorus pro

small osprey
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Is ur gpu plugged in properly

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Check all the steps of u building

little osprey
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I mean its running

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I heard the click when I plugged it in

small osprey
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Try with another cable? Or another monitor

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Do u have power cables to gpu

little osprey
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Yes

foggy hazel
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@small osprey relax, one question at a time

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or you wont know what is being answered.

small osprey
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Ah sry lol too fas

foggy hazel
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also, before we get to the whole "lets test cables" part

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let us check/verify that the machine actually runs

little osprey
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How do I check

foggy hazel
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@little osprey could you take a photo of the mainboard (please turn of the machine before you do that)

little osprey
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The video card and the cooler are in the way is that fine

foggy hazel
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aye aye

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just a general picture from the side is perfectly fine :)

little osprey
foggy hazel
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i see the required power cables in the rough spots they are supposed to be

little osprey
foggy hazel
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aye aye, i know. its not the board itself i am curious about

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your picture showed what i needed :)

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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(specifically, i was looking at the power cables)

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and just to verify, the LED that was turned on was in the bottom right corner right?

little osprey
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Oh yeah but it's fine

foggy hazel
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read again :)

little osprey
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It turned off a few seconds after I turned it on

foggy hazel
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"just to verify"

little osprey
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Yes

foggy hazel
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i cannot read your mind, so i have to do with verifying :)

little osprey
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Oh oop

foggy hazel
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could you please turn on the machine again

little osprey
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Ok lemme put the glass back on

foggy hazel
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no need as such

little osprey
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It's on

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Now what

foggy hazel
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is the light turning on again this time?

little osprey
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No

foggy hazel
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ok.

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time to cable hunt then :)

little osprey
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Is it supposed to

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Cuz it turns on for the first few seconds then it turns off

languid nimbus
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is it a fully modular psu?

foggy hazel
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IF it "cycles" then it is NOT working as intended

little osprey
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Cycles?

foggy hazel
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"turns on"

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"turns off"

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"turns on"

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"turns off"

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etc etc

little osprey
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What if it's just off tho

prisma stag
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is this a good case?

foggy hazel
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and also define "it"

prisma stag
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i want to upgrade from my td500

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plus i dont wana struggle to close the back lid

foggy hazel
prisma stag
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yes

little osprey
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Like the light is just off

foggy hazel
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on "what"?

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remember, i cannot see what you see :)

little osprey
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The red light that was on the motherboard

foggy hazel
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yes, that is normal

little osprey
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It is off

foggy hazel
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and that is normal

little osprey
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Then what's the problem

foggy hazel
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is your machine working?

little osprey
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Not sure how I would define working

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I mean

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It's on

foggy hazel
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do you have an output on your screen?

little osprey
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No

foggy hazel
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is your machine working then?

little osprey
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It just keeps saying there is no signal

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But I guess not

foggy hazel
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so, as i said.

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Cable hunting

little osprey
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O boy

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Alr then

foggy hazel
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find a different cable to use

little osprey
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For the monitor

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Or

foggy hazel
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yes

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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IF your monitor has a hdmi port, try that

little osprey
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It does

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It has three

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An HDMI 3,2, and a 1

foggy hazel
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aye aye, use whichever one you want

little osprey
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Ok

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It's in the monitor do I plug it into the pc now

foggy hazel
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yes

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pull out the DP cable while you are at it

little osprey
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Done

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Okee

foggy hazel
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?

little osprey
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Does it matter whether I turn the monitor on first or the pc

foggy hazel
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no

little osprey
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Nada

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It just says no signal

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Check input

foggy hazel
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which cpu are you using?

little osprey
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I9

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9900k

foggy hazel
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uninstall your GPU

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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remember to unplug the power cord from the PSU BEFORE you work on the insides of your machine

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and i am talking about the cord on the OUTSIDE of the case.

languid nimbus
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forgive my dumb question but does that monitor have different things to switch through like a tv does? I.e, some have tv/pc/hdmi/dp/etc?

little osprey
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It doesn't pop up

foggy hazel
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it auto switches @languid nimbus when there is "no" signal

little osprey
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How do I remove the gpu

foggy hazel
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how did you get it in there in the first place?

little osprey
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Plugged it in

foggy hazel
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there is a "latch" on the port you plugged it into

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you press that down, and you can pull the gpu out

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AFTER you have removed the screw that holds the bracket (with the DP/HDMI ports) in place

little osprey
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Yee

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That latch

foggy hazel
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yes

little osprey
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It's out

foggy hazel
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now, try and plug the hdmi cable into your mainboard

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and then turn on the machine

little osprey
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It didn't turn on

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Oh I'm stupid

foggy hazel
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you didnt plug in the cord :)

little osprey
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Yup

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Ok

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It's on

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And plugged in

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Now what

foggy hazel
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anything on the screen?

little osprey
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It's on

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:0

foggy hazel
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smiley faces dont tell me anything.

little osprey
foggy hazel
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okay

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so that is either a dead GPU or something close to

little osprey
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I just bought it :(

foggy hazel
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that is what warranty is for

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but there are a couple of things to try before we declare it completely dead

little osprey
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So do I call and have them send a replacement

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Oh

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Kk

foggy hazel
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what we have confirmed with the current test is this:

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the system itself can boot

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the cable (hdmi) works

little osprey
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Does that mean the cpu is good

foggy hazel
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the monitor "auto detects" when there is a signal

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the ram works

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the cpu works

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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what storage do you have?

little osprey
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1tb ssd and 4 tb hdd

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But is the hdd only supposed to plug into the psu

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Or no

foggy hazel
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the HDD needs 2 wires

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one power

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and one data

little osprey
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Seems like I need one more wire then

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I plugged a sata plug into it

foggy hazel
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aye

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see the red mark? click there please

little osprey
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It only picked up the m.2

foggy hazel
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that is because you are looking at the m.2 drives

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it was on the SATA drives before

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and how can it show something that is NOT connected?

little osprey
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It can't :/

foggy hazel
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also, you are using the wrong m.2 port

little osprey
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It fit in that one

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The other one was too big

foggy hazel
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it fits in both

little osprey
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:0

foggy hazel
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you just have to move the standoff

little osprey
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My friend said the m2m is good tho

foggy hazel
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give me a second to check your manual

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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you have disabled 2 of the SATA ports on the mainboard by using that M.2 port.

little osprey
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What does that mean

foggy hazel
little osprey
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Oh

foggy hazel
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those two (pink ones) do NOT work

little osprey
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But the other ones do

foggy hazel
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correct

little osprey
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I have nothing plugged into that

foggy hazel
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then yes, it will work.

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HOWEVER

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when you plug in your HDD

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do NOT plug into the ones i marked pink

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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because it will NOT work

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so, please turn of your machine now

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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and lets get that HDD working

little osprey
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Ok

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I unplugged the psu

foggy hazel
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yes, because you will be working inside the case.

little osprey
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Yes

foggy hazel
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that is the type of connector you plugged into the HDD right?

little osprey
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Yee

foggy hazel
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okay, then you are missing the DATA cable

little osprey
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O

foggy hazel
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looks like that

little osprey
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I might have one of those

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Lemme check

foggy hazel
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you have multiple in your mainboard box

little osprey
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Yeah

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So do I plug this into the hdd

foggy hazel
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yes

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AND into the mainboard

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remember NOT into the pink ones

little osprey
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It's in

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Do I turn it on now or no

foggy hazel
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yes please

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remember to plug power cable back in :)

little osprey
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Ok

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It's there

foggy hazel
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well done :)

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now to figure out what that GPU is doing

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turn of the machine

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unplug power

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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unplug hdmi from mainboard

little osprey
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Yes

foggy hazel
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(but leave it in the monitor)

little osprey
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Yee

foggy hazel
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now, try and plug in the GPU again

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(as in, install it into the mainboard again)

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take note that the latch actually engages

little osprey
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Ok

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I plugged it in

foggy hazel
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double check that the PCI-e Power cable is plugged in to the GPU

little osprey
foggy hazel
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and check that cable is plugged correctly into the PSU too

little osprey
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All of them are plugged into the psu it's like a tether

foggy hazel
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that pci-e plug is NOT plugged in

little osprey
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Wym

foggy hazel
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that latch is NOT grabbing that edge

little osprey
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Oh hold on

wary geode
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can i maybe help

little osprey
wary geode
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hey bread what gpu is it

little osprey
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Gigabyte 5600xt

wary geode
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did it work before

foggy hazel
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@little osprey better. now try and power it on

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@wary geode read up instead.

wary geode
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naed is very very smart but maybe i can try

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ok

little osprey
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It's on

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Now do I plug the hdmi into the motherboard or the gpu

foggy hazel
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GPU

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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and then plug in power to the psu

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and turn on the machine

wary geode
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ok i read up

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is the gpu used?

little osprey
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No it's new

foggy hazel
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just wait for him to do what he is doing @wary geode

wary geode
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oki dokey

little osprey
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Nada

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It didn't work

cloud oasis
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Mircocenter Give window key

wary geode
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ill chill here

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oki dokey

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ill send in dm

cloud oasis
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or tell me how todo

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ok bet

little osprey
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Wait do you sell window keys?

foggy hazel
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@cloud oasis & @wary geode please go somewhere else for that.

wary geode
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yeah no worries

cloud oasis
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ok

foggy hazel
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@little osprey if he does. it is against the rules of the server.

little osprey
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O

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I didn't know that

foggy hazel
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back to your gpu problem

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can you tell me if the fans are spinning on it?

wary geode
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i dont sell lol i could but i give for free

foggy hazel
wary geode
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its no point the thing about doing it is on the internewt so i forward

little osprey
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They are spamming

wary geode
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nah i know naed

cloud oasis
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hes not selling

little osprey
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Spinning

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Lol

foggy hazel
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try and move the hdmi cable to the mainboard again @little osprey

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dont power off the machine while you do it

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just move the cable

little osprey
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It worked

foggy hazel
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screen output?

little osprey
foggy hazel
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okay

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power off machine

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one last test

little osprey
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Ok

foggy hazel
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this one is a bit annoying to do (for you)

little osprey
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O boy

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Alr

foggy hazel
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you know how the GPU is installed in the first "big" slot in the mainboard?

little osprey
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Yea

foggy hazel
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install it in the second one instead (second of the big ones)

little osprey
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So just move it down by one?

foggy hazel
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"down by one" (of the big slots?) yes

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from red to green

little osprey
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Ok

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Putting it in rb

foggy hazel
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ok :)

little osprey
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It doesn't fit as well

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Hold on lemme try sum

foggy hazel
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it should slide in quite easily @little osprey

little osprey
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Not that kind of fit

foggy hazel
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IF it doesnt, please ask before you apply force

little osprey
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It's in

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I had to remove another one of these

foggy hazel
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aye

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that is normal :)

little osprey
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Its all plugged in

foggy hazel
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now, power it back on

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and cross your fingers that it works this time

little osprey
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I think it works

foggy hazel
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screen output?

little osprey
foggy hazel
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hmm

little osprey
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And it's plugged into video card

foggy hazel
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2sec, let me just double check your manual

little osprey
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Okee

unborn flicker
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So whats everyones opinion on the corsair a500 dual fan cpu cooler 🤔 yall think its worth

little osprey
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Hey I'ma continue on my alt

foggy hazel
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@little osprey this indicates that the slot on the mainboard is dead

little osprey
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Is that bad

foggy hazel
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dead = not working

unborn flicker
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Yea

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Anything is bad

foggy hazel
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IF you dont need it, it does NOT technically matter

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@unborn flicker shush please.

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however, seeing as it is a new mainboard. that is a darn shame

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also, because its an intel mainboard, the port you are plugged into, is limited to what is known as x8 speed

little osprey
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What's that

foggy hazel
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simple or complex answer ?

little osprey
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Is there a middle man

foggy hazel
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not really

little osprey
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Complex?

foggy hazel
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the bandwidth of the port is running at pci-e x8 speed.

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it does not matter as such for THIS card

violet harness
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Quietest cpu cooler?

little osprey
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What would it be if it was at the top

foggy hazel
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x16

little osprey
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I see so it shouldn't change much correct or is this a big problem?

foggy hazel
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but as i said, it does not matter for this card

little osprey
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Og

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Ok

foggy hazel
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but

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IT might matter a LOT when/if you upgrade the GPU

little osprey
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This is my first pc

foggy hazel
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aye

little osprey
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And I probably won't be upgrading for quite a while but if I hit the road block I can call the people that supplied me with the motherboard and say it was broken

foggy hazel
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which is why i would recommend that you send the board back (IF we cannot persuade it to work as we want it to)

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at that point in time, they will not care AND/OR you will have to fight a lot more to get it fixed

little osprey
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I mean will it still work if I keep it how it is

foggy hazel
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aye, it will work

little osprey
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Then should I just have to download the op system and be done

violet harness
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aye, it will work
@foggy hazel can u tell me in cooling

foggy hazel
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@violet harness have patience.

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@little osprey IF you are okay with the above. then yes. Installing the OS is the next step :)

little osprey
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I think I'm fine with it

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What's bandwidth again

foggy hazel
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okay :)

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consider it "potential" performance that might matter

little osprey
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Ah

foggy hazel
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(that is a very very simplified answer)

little osprey
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Ok

violet harness
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Yo naed can u help me out with my build

foggy hazel
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@violet harness patience.

violet harness
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Not just cooling btw

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you know how to make the usb stick and everything?

little osprey
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Wym

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I have the windows setup on a flash drive

violet harness
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Also bread good luck with your build

little osprey
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Thx :)

foggy hazel
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good, then just power off the system

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plug in the usb stick

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and power it on again

little osprey
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Ok is that all?

fleet pagoda
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When the 3070 comes out where will i be able to buy it?

little osprey
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Nvidia

foggy hazel
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that should enable you to boot from it @little osprey

little osprey
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Ok thx alot

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:)

foggy hazel
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@fleet pagoda most major retailers

fleet pagoda
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Amazon?

little osprey
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Maybe not there

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Best buy and nvidia I saw listings for

violet harness
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Best Buy marketplace is so sketchy

little osprey
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But best buy has tons of bots so your not guaranteed the thing

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Yee

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I have a 250 and a 1tb samsung 970 evo plus. My 250 hold OS and my 1tb is my main hard drive. However, when both are installed, my computer repeatedly goes thru the bootup sequence. Does anyone know why?

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Ok I'ma go thanks again @foggy hazel

fleet pagoda
little osprey
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Yee

fleet pagoda
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Pog ty

foggy hazel
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best of luck @little osprey and you are very welcome :)

violet harness
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Can u help me now

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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@violet harness going around and sending DM's "demanding" help .... that is not going to earn you any favours

violet harness
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I’m not demanding

foggy hazel
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i am a volunteer

violet harness
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I just said I need help with my build

foggy hazel
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i am NOT paid to help anyone.

violet harness
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If u don’t wanna help that’s fine don’t

foggy hazel
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so as i said multiple times.

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patience.

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ask/state what you need help with, and post details. Then people can decide IF they want to help

cloud oasis
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@violet harness just ask ur question is what hes tryna say

arctic junco
stoic island
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Ick

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@arctic junco can you... Explain?

arctic junco
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what do you mean?

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is the list bad??

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lmao

balmy patio
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i think he means like what ur budget is, what your goals regarding the pc are, etc

autumn wolf
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no im pretty sure its the first what augustus said

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but knowing what your budget is would be nice

dapper solstice
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10400 and 3070

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hmm

arctic junco
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oh yeah my goal is to have a gaming PC with all new parts under or around $1000.

autumn wolf
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and goal with what the pc will be

arctic junco
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like i want to game, stream, edit videos, and render potentially 4K maybe 1440P?

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btw i put only one storage device cuz i already have storage devices

dapper solstice
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how close are you to a micro center

autumn wolf
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think mr1111 is either pounding his head rn or making a new list

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cause he's silent rn

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lol

arctic junco
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i dont live anywhere near any microcenter

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like over a thousand miles away lmao

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i live in the US too lmao

dapper solstice
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oh

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i was about to say that there are some good deals on cpu's

arctic junco
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yeah its tough, i wish i lived near a microcenter, i heard those places are awesome

dapper solstice
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saw that there was i9 9900k for 300

arctic junco
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wouldnt fit my budget

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300 for a CPU would destroy my budget

dapper solstice
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ik there was also this

arctic junco
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i want to only use next gen or new parts tho, thats like, my goal

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because coffee lake is pretty old at this point

balmy patio
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a 9700k for the price of a 3600

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thats a steal

arctic junco
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what???

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200?

dapper solstice
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i might have sent image twice by accident

arctic junco
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3600 isn't 300

balmy patio
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meant 9700k

arctic junco
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oh my b

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haha

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the problem with the Coffee series is the QuickSync is old

dapper solstice
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thats understand able

arctic junco
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I want to be able to do VP9 10-bit

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coffee lake only decodes

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but tiger and rocket has full support

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i would go with AMD but Intel is arguably better with more intense renderings and 4K applications.

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VP9 can go all the way to 8192×4352

dapper solstice
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you've done alot of research

arctic junco
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I want only the best at my price range

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I've lived my whole live in poverty so when I build my PC, I want literally the best available.

dapper solstice
#

i see

arctic junco
#

if I ever get to live near a Microcenter ima apply so fast

#

i would love to work at a place like that

dapper solstice
#

closest microcenter from me is an 1 hour away and i have no transportation

arctic junco
#

what's your situation my guy?

#

car broken down?

dapper solstice
#

no i dont own a ccar

#

nor do i have a license

arctic junco
#

you're a young'n?

dapper solstice
#

yes

arctic junco
#

gotcha

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im 20 lol

dapper solstice
#

16

arctic junco
#

when covid ends u gotta hop on that license wagon

dapper solstice
#

i will

arctic junco
#

i think its crazy that VP9 is only supported by Ice, Tiger, and Rocket Lake Architectures, and is only Decode available by Comet, Coffee, Kaby, and Gemini. 4K should've been fully supported on Coffee Lake.

dapper solstice
#

if only decode was available they could have probably supported encoding on coffee lake too

arctic junco
#

Coffee Lake has enough horsepower, thats for sure lmao

#

That's literally so evident when you see the 9900K's performance which is still applicable in intense gaming applications today.

#

but the 10900K has full 4K support on VP9 (so does every other 10 series chip) so that's why I want the 10 series or the new 11 series for my build.

dapper solstice
#

they probably wanted to differentiate between generations

arctic junco
#

oh Encoding was only available on Linus for Coffee Lake lmaoooo

#

you could Encode 4K only on Linux

#

what a scam

dapper solstice
#

so it probably could support encoding on windows

#

idk how many people use linux for video editing

foggy hazel
#

plenty @dapper solstice

arctic junco
#

for real???

foggy hazel
#

aye

arctic junco
#

huh, I havent used it before

foggy hazel
#

as a encoder box? its very viable

#

also, Davinci Resolve

arctic junco
#

im assuming since nobody said really anything about my Build that nobody sees anything worth talking about it

#

which must be a good thing, right?

foggy hazel
#

well, considering you have a 3070 in there

#

you are seemingly okay with waiting a while to build

arctic junco
#

Yeah I'm a patient person

uncut pelican
#

What woule be a good gpu for this monitor

arctic junco
#

A 1070-1080 since its only 1080p lol

foggy hazel
#

then i would strongly recommend that you keep a serious eyes on actual reviews for the zen3 chips and the RDNA2 chips late this month and start of next month

arctic junco
#

2060-2070 series too since those are cheaper actually

foggy hazel
#

1000 series is EOL

arctic junco
#

no chance id go with AMD since their drivers are super bugged and dopey

foggy hazel
#

so dont buy that unless VERY cheap

#

that is news to me @arctic junco

arctic junco
#

i have an AMD machine rn

#

do you think im enjoying it?

foggy hazel
#

and how old is it?

arctic junco
#

2019 parts

foggy hazel
#

why are you upgrading then?

arctic junco
#

because it can barely handle the games i love to play

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and it doesnt render well at all

#

the rendering is pretty awful actually

foggy hazel
#

spec list?

arctic junco
#

give me a sec pls

foggy hazel
#

no rush

arctic junco
#

Acer Nitro 5 AN515-42-R5ED

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i got it on a deal

#

just over $500

#

its a $700 gaming laptop yeah, at least it wasn't too much of a waste, I've been using it since July last year.

foggy hazel
#

so, you are comparing a thermal limited laptop, in the budget end of things ... with a desktop system in the mid-level of things

#

yes, i can see how that makes logical sense :)

rich void
#

An older laptop as well right?

arctic junco
#

2019 is pretty old with AMD standards

#

so yeah technically

rich void
#

The one I found when inputting that model had a 2500u and 560x

arctic junco
#

thats correct

foggy hazel
#

@arctic junco you are aware those are zen1 cores right?

rich void
#

I think 3000 series laptop processors were out that year, so it was not current when purchased

arctic junco
#

mine has the Gen 2 version of the 2500u

foggy hazel
#

not zen+

#

not zen2

#

its a cpu from 2017

arctic junco
#

oh lol idk anything about Laptop parts tbh

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I follow Desktop parts more than Laptop stuff

rich void
#

So 3500u would have been available. Not to mention iirc laptop processors before the 4000-series were not that great
But I could be wrong there

arctic junco
#

no ur probably right Brauer

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Idk but I think you are, don't doubt yourself

foggy hazel
#

the same research that works for desktop parts works for laptop parts @arctic junco :)

arctic junco
#

lmaoo you're not wrong

foggy hazel
#

you are close enough @rich void

arctic junco
#

however my situation was different back then

foggy hazel
#

4000 series parts are zen2

arctic junco
#

I needed something immediately for when I moved out

foggy hazel
#

meaning, same cores as the 3000 desktop parts

arctic junco
#

and I think everything at the time was a scam

#

like, we couldn't find anything thats a good deal at all

#

except this one

#

only good gaming laptop for $500 was this one

#

a G3 is $1000 at the time

foggy hazel
#

the following is not a judgement on you. But that laptop is not very good

arctic junco
#

I'm aware, I'm using it lmaoooo

foggy hazel
#

so, please take my word for it. It is NOT a useful indicator of what AMD hardware "now" is like

arctic junco
#

hardware maybe

#

but software?

rich void
#

I got a gaming laptop a few years ago too, now I wish I'd built a PC, but now I'll do that later this year if all goes well

arctic junco
#

thats a whole other story

foggy hazel
#

same

arctic junco
#

AMD software is pretty much half baked freeware

#

its just awfully optimized

foggy hazel
#

again, you are basing your software "view" on support for something that was the 1st generation of doing things in a "new" way

arctic junco
#

truth be told

foggy hazel
#

again, i dont personally care what parts you use

#

just at least use viable logic when comparing things :)

arctic junco
#

im not comparing anything

#

I just want the best parts for when I build my PC

#

and AMD are not the best

#

that is the truth

spiral zealot
#

wait until zen 3 benchmarks come out before you make any claims of 'truth'

foggy hazel
#

unless you specifically have a workload that can ONLY be done on intel.

#

what you are saying is quite misinformed @arctic junco

arctic junco
#

I've seen the benchmarks

#

the 5700X isn't anything to get all excited about

spiral zealot
#

you've seen the numbers that AMD released

arctic junco
#

XT i meant

spiral zealot
#

those are not independently verified 3rd party reviews

#

that's AMD marketing

arctic junco
#

I watch people benchmark lol

spiral zealot
#

it's good marketing, but it's still just marketing

foggy hazel
#

you are misunderstanding @arctic junco

spiral zealot
#

i'm not talking about the video card

foggy hazel
#

5700xt is the old GPU

spiral zealot
#

I'm talking about zen 3 CPU's

arctic junco
#

i dont care about the CPU by AMD

spiral zealot
#

and we also haven't seen the RDNA2 GPU benchmarks

arctic junco
#

it doesn't do the things I need it to do

foggy hazel
#

which is what exactly?

spiral zealot
#

so either way, it's worth the 3 weeks of waiting

#

to see how both shape up

arctic junco
#

full VP9 Support, solid Rendering and video editing, and lossless streaming

#

at a lower budget

#

the 10400 has this

#

its cheaper than the 3600

dapper solstice
#

i looked through the list and didnt see anything worth changing except the drive

arctic junco
#

and has full VP9 support

#

ah the HP M.2?

dapper solstice
#

there was a 970 evo on sale for less than the current drive

arctic junco
#

is it Dramless?

foggy hazel
#

wrong link @dapper solstice

dapper solstice
#

o

spiral zealot
#

ultimately it's a decision that only you can make, but i HIGHLY recommend you wait a measly 3 weeks to see what the new generation of AMD hardware is capable of

#

from both a CPU/GPU standpoint

dapper solstice
#

970 evo isnt dramless iirc

foggy hazel
#

@arctic junco what exactly do you need VP9 encoding for?

dapper solstice
#

i have hope for the zen 3 cpu but not so much for gpu

arctic junco
#

4K Encoding

dapper solstice
#

but amd is getting better so i might wait and see

foggy hazel
#

why that way around?

spiral zealot
#

if the independent reviews verify AMD's initial claims, it's going to be a very good time to go team red

arctic junco
#

Almost everything else does Decoding

fleet pagoda
#

Most optimal 1200$ build

arctic junco
#

idk why i cant find that $70 970

foggy hazel
#

AV1 would make so much more sense

#

is why i am asking.

arctic junco
#

oh wait my b im dumb lol

dapper solstice
arctic junco
#

AV1 doesn't have any full support on any of Intel's QuickSync Support

spiral zealot
#

as an aside, RDNA2 will have full AV1 support

#

was confirmed about a week ago

foggy hazel
#

@spiral zealot decoding support no?

arctic junco
#

hold on

#

let me show you something

#

about AV1

spiral zealot
#

both i believe

foggy hazel
#

i know Ampere has decoding support

arctic junco
foggy hazel
#

but encoding should NOT be here yet

fleet pagoda
#

Any improvments i should make

arctic junco
fleet pagoda
#

I wanna get a 3070 w it

spiral zealot
#

oh wait, just decoding it seems, I had to pull up the full official release from microsoft

fleet pagoda
#

Budget is like 1250

spiral zealot
#

i don't think anything does encoding yet, yeah

arctic junco
#

that makes a lot of sense

spiral zealot
foggy hazel
#

aye, decoding is logical @spiral zealot

arctic junco
#

thats why I want to go with Intel for the foreseeable future because their QuickSync is way better than whatever AMD is doing

foggy hazel
#

encoding is generally a slightly different kettle of fish :)

dapper solstice
#

@fleet pagoda just send the full link

fleet pagoda
#

Okay

foggy hazel
#

again, yes, you have 2 lists of examples of res/framerate. But your point was?

fleet pagoda
arctic junco
#

id go with a standard 3600

fleet pagoda
#

And yh getting a 3070 w it

arctic junco
#

or go Intel, get the 10400

#

its cheaper and performs better in gaming applications

fleet pagoda
#

Okay ty

#

Should i improve anything w the memory and storage

dapper solstice
#

might want to get an ssd

fleet pagoda
#

What dat

dapper solstice
#

you said you wanted a $1200 build

arctic junco
#

Solid State Drive

dapper solstice
arctic junco
#

its much faster

foggy hazel
#

only the single biggest upgrade you can make @fleet pagoda

arctic junco
#

and get a Gold Cert Power Supply

#

and you dont need to put Windows 10 Home there, you can easily get it for free

foggy hazel
#

cert does not matter. specific models matter.

arctic junco
#

and boot it with a USB

fleet pagoda
#

Whats the dif between bronze and gold power supply

#

And where would i look for an ssd

arctic junco
#

Well, better efficiency helps the environment but whatever

dapper solstice
#

efficiency

arctic junco
#

eh who am i kidding

#

Gaming PCs are monsters lmao

fleet pagoda
#

But will the one i picked out work fine for mu build

arctic junco
#

yeah its good enough

hollow sun
#

Hi all 🤓 excuse me team, does anyone here could help me with couple of questions regarding to new coming Ryzen Generation, pls? What are the compatible Motherboards with 3700X/5000 Series?? Is there a Newegg list available?

fleet pagoda
#

So i should get one of these?

spiral zealot
#

i would still recommend waiting 3 weeks for the ryzen 5 5600x to hit, and pairing it with a B550 board

foggy hazel
fleet pagoda
spiral zealot
#

the 5600X will be roughly $60 more, but should in theory be a significant performance boost over the 3600

fleet pagoda
foggy hazel
#

@hollow sun B550/x570, but take note of what @spiral zealot is talking about too

spiral zealot
#

again, can't say for sure until reviews come out, but either way, it's a significant architecture change and it's not that much more

foggy hazel
#

@fleet pagoda what GPU are you pairing all of that with?

spiral zealot
#

he said a 3070 earlier

arctic junco
#

If AMD really pulls threw with the high performance gains they boast theyre making, I will consider it, however their Software is terrible no matter what

spiral zealot
#

which is why it's only $700ish on the part list

foggy hazel
#

missed that, thank you Chaun

arctic junco
#

the Drivers are just hacked together with glue

fleet pagoda
#

Yeah 3070

spiral zealot
#

not the current ones, but again, we won't know what the RDNA2 drivers will look like at launch

dapper solstice
#

amd cpu's are good but the gpu's are questionable

arctic junco
#

Adrenalin seems to be the big thing

foggy hazel
#

again, based on support for a 3 generation old set of hardware @arctic junco

spiral zealot
#

current drivers are solid, but were rough at launch, i'll give you that

arctic junco
#

i still have a lot of problems lmao

dapper solstice
#

uh

spiral zealot
#

they made a complete 180 with a driver update earlier this year i think it was

#

or maybe last year

dapper solstice
#

what do you mean

foggy hazel
#

@lime forge could you help this guy above us out?

dapper solstice
#

???

lime forge
#

gone

dapper solstice
#

oof

foggy hazel
#

thank you :)

arctic junco
#

thank u

#

im always having troubles with the drivers

#

its never a smooth ride

#

like ill randomly boot up and something will be gone

#

so i update, and that something is still gone

spiral zealot
#

i haven't had a single issue in quite a while, on my RX 570, 580, and now my 5600XT

arctic junco
#

and i get random crashes and my HDMI settings are always wonky

spiral zealot
#

and i'm always on whatever the latest recommended version is

#

i never go 'optional' or beta drivers

little osprey
#

yall check #build-pics I just posted my new rig in there, im so excited o-o

spiral zealot
#

just because

#

they're not final

#

and risk isn't worth it for me

arctic junco
#

i know im just saying that im always having troubles

#

and online, nobody ever has real fixes

#

its a nightmare

#

AMD's Drivers are held together with duct tape from my perspective

hollow sun
#

Copy, so probably on the list Mbs compatible with New Ryzen Gen: B550 and x570, is the RTX 2060 compatible with whole system as well?

arctic junco
#

yep

foggy hazel
#

@arctic junco again, based on really old hardware, and also, based on a machine that is done by a vendor that is not known for being all that good at long term machine stability (Acer)

arctic junco
#

lmao im being egged

dapper solstice
#

@hollow sun gpu will be compatible with any mobo so yes

arctic junco
#

lmao its not really old, its all part of AMD's next gen hardware

foggy hazel
#

nah, i am just not all that fond of non-logical logic :)

arctic junco
#

are you trying to like, roast me or something?

foggy hazel
#

as i said, your hardware is 2017 hardware.

arctic junco
#

because I really do have these problems

foggy hazel
#

aye

#

i have no doubt

arctic junco
#

its not like I'm hallucinating lmao

spiral zealot
#

the ryzen 5 2500U is zen 1 CPU, the 560X is just polaris 11/21, which is the same as the RX 400 series

#

it's not 'next gen'

foggy hazel
#

but as i said. Problems with old hardware is not automatically problems with new hardware

arctic junco
#

then what makes you think AMD has software that's optimized and works?

#

its not hardware man

#

you always say hardware

foggy hazel
#

that i have plenty of clients without problems :)

arctic junco
#

im talking about software

spiral zealot
#

because I'm running an RDNA1 GPU right now with current drivers

#

and it's flawless

arctic junco
#

i feel like what im saying is flying over everyones heads

foggy hazel
#

not really

#

we are perhaps just less excitable

spiral zealot
#

what we're saying is, you're running older hardware with whatever version of drivers you have, and that experience is not directly comparable to the next gen hardware/software that is coming out in the next few weeks

arctic junco
#

im saying that the Drivers for my AMD System never work properly and you all tell me its all hardware, when all my hardware, is actually modern, even if its 2017 stuff, its all based on the new architectures AMD started at the time.

spiral zealot
#

so to insist that buying AMD for your next system is bad because amd = bad software is a flawed conclusion

#

you have no idea how things will perform when the new drivers come out for the 6000 series GPU's

arctic junco
#

I've had nothing but problems since the beginning and so have many others

#

im not alone on this lmao

spiral zealot
#

i will give you a point on the fact that they don't have a great track record in the past

#

but they've also made massive strides in the last year within the radeon team

#

so we have NO idea how things will look at launch

#

and it's not fair to make a judgement call now without all the information available

foggy hazel
#

neither does intel or nvidia in this regard @spiral zealot, its just a question of looking back far enough

spiral zealot
#

that's also true

arctic junco
#

is the 5700XT a 1080p card or a 1440p card?

#

or is it full 4K support?

foggy hazel
#

for what?

arctic junco
#

in gaming

#

for monitors

#

like displaying

#

not encoding

spiral zealot
#

5700 XT can handle 4k gaming, it's on par with a 2070 super/2080

arctic junco
#

thats typically the CPU for encoding

spiral zealot
#

in terms of raw gaming performance

arctic junco
#

which is closer? 2070 super to 57? or the 2080?

#

like, in raw gaming perf.

spiral zealot
#

2070 super and 2080 non-super are comparable for the most part

foggy hazel
#

2080 and 2070 super are basically the same card.

spiral zealot
#

2080 just came out first before all the super models

arctic junco
#

the 2070 Super and 5700XT are super close in these Benchmarks I'm seeing

foggy hazel
spiral zealot
#

the 5700 XT can handle 4k gaming, it's probably more comfortable overall at 1440p, but it can stretch its legs into 4k pretty easily depending on the title

#

the 5600XT rides the 1080p/1440p line

arctic junco
#

however these benchmarks im seeing for 4K between the 57 and the 2080 tell a different story. I won't roast AMD per say, i just think Nvidia have the right idea on where they prioritize optimization.

foggy hazel
#

do you think we are saying that the 5700xt is a 4k card?

arctic junco
#

one of u said it was

foggy hazel
#

please read again.

arctic junco
#

5700 XT can handle 4k gaming, it's on par with a 2070 super/2080
@spiral zealot see

foggy hazel
#

context mate

#

context.

violet harness
#

thoughts on Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO?

arctic junco
#

what do you mean?

#

the person said the 5700XT can handle 4K gaming.

spiral zealot
#

i said it can handle it, not that it's going to be a powerhouse at it like a 2080 super or 2080ti

arctic junco
#

and im not comparing it to a TI or Super

little osprey
#

There's a difference between handle, and doing it properly

arctic junco
#

just the 2070 super and 2080 like you said

spiral zealot
#

meaning it can run 4k 30fps pretty easily, but it's going to struggle to hit 60fps in certain titles

arctic junco
#

im not pulling any sort of manipulation here, im just sharing what I see here.

spiral zealot
#

just like a 2070 super/2080 non-super

foggy hazel
spiral zealot
#

and i also said it's definitely more comfortable at 1440p

violet harness
#

anyone know a good motherboard

arctic junco
#

the 2080 can hit 60fps in 4K in most titles, and the 5700XT can in a few, but not most by any means.

foggy hazel
arctic junco
#

yeah but 1440p is pretty much dead in the water

prisma stag
#

anyone know a good motherboard
Someone help this man with motherboard

arctic junco
#

nobody really utilizes it

foggy hazel
#

@arctic junco keep on believing that if you want :)

arctic junco
#

like, professionally in E-Sports or vice versa.

#

I mean, it's true I keep up to date

foggy hazel
#

reason its not used professionally, is that the performance is not there yet

#

same reason we dont use 4k there either

arctic junco
#

I know, however, I know that 4K is being used more widely than not

foggy hazel
#

the moment we can push 200+ frames things will shift

arctic junco
#

especially with how much cheaper it is

foggy hazel
#

your comparison points are quite wacky mate

arctic junco
#

you have a problem with me I can tell

spiral zealot
#

i honestly think that 1440p is the sweet spot right now for gaming if you aren't on a super tight budget or anything

foggy hazel
#

no, far from it

#

as i said. i have a problem with non-logical logic

spiral zealot
#

1440p 144hz is pretty easy to achieve now

arctic junco
#

man you're on my case with everything i say

spiral zealot
#

and doesn't break the bank

arctic junco
#

yeah I can agree with that

#

144hz is a very nice sweet spot

foggy hazel
#

because you keep on changing the goal posts :)

arctic junco
#

being super heavily optimized because of demand from E-Sports players.

#

i never changed them

#

the person said 2070 super to 2080

#

not 2080 Super/TI

foggy hazel
#

again. look at the links.

arctic junco
#

I'm absolutely positive we were talking about just those two cards, not the other two.

#

Idk what links you want me to look at

#

so I'm not going to look lmao

#

You've got a bone to pick with a random guy on Newegg's discord

#

kinda weird

foggy hazel
#

there is nothing logically wrong in what @spiral zealot said about the 5700xt card.

arctic junco
#

yeah ok?

covert steppe
#

@tawdry mica where does the psu go in a build like that? Is there a large side panel behind the mobo? 🤔 If you look on youtube, theres a video of a person doing a build in one. You can see exactly where the psu goes.

gleaming hawk
#

rate the budget build

#

*not something im actually building, just a concept

#

also, the storage drive is actually supposed to be 240gb, adds abt $7

cloud oasis
#

I should bump it up to 500gb ssd nvme

#

70$ most

vital warren
#

case is a little much for a budget build

shut kayak
#

Hey guys! I'm new to the pc world. Been a ps4 gamer never had a pc. My os4 died and um looking to build a budget pc. I've got a budget of around 400 but a friend is givng me his old gtx 970? To use in mh first build. Could someone take a look at the list I put together?

fleet pagoda
#

Sure

shut kayak
#

Okay I'm pretty sure jm leaning towards the new i3 unless someone can steer me to amd

#

Again this id new to me so please don't trash my list

empty cape
#

Can anyone here help me. I just finished my build and I can't get any signal out of the GPU. When power on... it goes straight to no signal.

little osprey
#

@empty cape did you try a different cord and/or port

cloud oasis
#

Put gpu on bottom slot

#

@empty cape

little osprey
#

Slot doesn't matter

#

Mines at the top

empty cape
#

I only have 1 slot

#

I tried 3 different screen

#

one on HDMI

#

one on DP

#

one on DVI

little leaf
#

@empty cape check the debug light lol

#

Its on

#

So check it

little osprey
#

@empty cape hdmi slot on monitor/gpu

empty cape
#

whats the debug light?

#

tried all the slots on GPU and Monitors

#

the light is on CPU

cloud oasis
#

Debug left top right i think

empty cape
#

its on VGA

little osprey
#

So that means your gpu is faulty

empty cape
#

I have no GPU

#

I've removed it

#

I'm trying to make it work with the mobo only

little osprey
#

Hmm

empty cape
#

Omg!!

#

I switched the PSU pin on the GPU

#

It worked

fleet pagoda
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Idk

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Im getting on release if i can

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Will the 3070 and a ryzen 5 3600x be able to run 240 hz

cloud oasis
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Yes

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I think

fleet pagoda
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Yh bc i also wanna get a 240 hz monitor i have a 144hz monitor rn

cloud oasis
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might aswell

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if u can

fleet pagoda
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What is a cheap 240hz monitor 1 ms

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3 or under ms

cloud oasis
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What ur budget

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like wdym by cheap

fleet pagoda
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Idk like 250

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I really dont wanna spend 300 or over ona new monitor tbh

cloud oasis
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270

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ez

fleet pagoda
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Pogggg

vital warren
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tn panel

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no

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bad

cloud oasis
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but when u get it turn off the bluelight

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tn panel good

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ur not gonna have to get angles on it

fleet pagoda
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Whats tn oanel

cloud oasis
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ur gonna have it right in front of u

fleet pagoda
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Panel

cloud oasis
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search in yt

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@fleet pagoda when u look at ur current monitor at an angle does it look black-ish

gritty zenith
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ew 1080p tn panel

vital warren
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^^

gritty zenith
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as im watching a COD cutscene on my benq 60hz 1080p panel that is tearing like crazy

cloud oasis
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OmegaLul

little osprey
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benq's are mad over rated imo

gritty zenith
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idk what you mean overrated, bc i barely hear anyone talkin bout em

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lmoa

little osprey
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they are the bee's knees in e"sprts" apparently

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lots of people talk about how good they are

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very expensive

next kestrel
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they sponsor a lot of teams

little osprey
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they are nice for sure, but i dunno if worth

next kestrel
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and orgs

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so you might hear about them more

eager hazel
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I don’t know if I should get a asrock b450 steel legend or ab450 pro 4 what do you guys think

little osprey
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i dunno what that even is, so i couldn't tell you

cloud oasis
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Asus rog strix b450

pallid summit
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any recommended changes?

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I'm going for an all black no RGB build

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I'm getting the black version of the case

cloud oasis
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@pallid summit ur rams rgb tho

pallid summit
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I'll turn them off

cloud oasis
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Arctic liquid freezer 360mm is better than what u picked

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At least for price

pallid summit
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I like the brushed look. it goes well with the case and motherboard

cloud oasis
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And i changed mobo