building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

But I wouldn't

Not without a nearby stud

Don't need to be on a stud, but local to one helps a lot

Fixes a lot of potential movement and disperses some pressure caused by weight dislocating the wall

And that would be flat on the wall, not an arm

Arm you want a stud, 1000%

[lean anchor]

The Desk itself will eventually be changed I think sometime in the next few months, so hopefully I will have more room for my second monitor to lay sideways XD

[cyan ravine]

Well you can explore the options of monitor layouts

Common pick is two side by side both horizontal or 1 vertical

Vertical on one is nice for productivity imo

It reads a lot more like a list and good for a 3 piece workspace

It might sound a little weird but windows apps scale better in more square sizes on vertical screens

So they are easier to work with

Instead of more rectangular on horizontal

Take discord for example

[lean anchor]

Problem with my current mount is I bought an arm, and it's securement has the monitor tilting forward a bit on top, which means they aren't flush with eachother.

[cyan ravine]

That would be right yeah

Not same.monitor, not same alignment

Been there lol

[lean anchor]

Also with what I do, I don't have to have a verticle monitor, it was just what I went with due to space restrictions.

[cyan ravine]

Ye no don't worry

Just adding the context to give ideas

Up to you what you'd prefer

I would be clamping to desk tho I think

You really would want a nearby stud imo for wall

Or maybe an arm from the stud

Might look a little weird tho

[lean anchor]

I would prefer horizontal 😛 but yeah, it sounds like an arm mount or pole either one would be the best option.

Thank you for all your help. I really appreciate it 🙂

[cyan ravine]

All good

[mystic dune]

hey yall, just an FYI - yall can post your build on our website, use the link here: https://www.newegg.com/tools/custom-pc-builder/showcase/featured-builds

[crimson zinc]

No mobile support

F

[flint sapphire]

F

[manic cloak]

Top left, Aa, request Desktop website? 😭

[raw dove]

yo

2 questions

do i need to apply the graphene on my ssd if the board already came with a ssd heatsink

and 2nd, is it okay if i used slots a1 and b1 for the ram since i couldnt fit them into a2 and b2 ?

[stoic island]

Usually mobo heatsink is fine, don't need to add the extra heatsink if your SSD came with one, and generally don't remove the sticker on the SSD

A1 B1 should be fine

[dusky hearth]

it looks to me in the image you put them in a2 and b2

[jagged ember]

Graphene for the ssd is kinda wild haha

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[raw dove]

i checked the manual but i may be wrong

[jagged ember]

Then again, there is whole ssd watercooling

[raw dove]

yeah i wasnt entirely sure

[dusky hearth]

i think they meant thermal pads?

[raw dove]

came in 2 pieces

[dusky hearth]

oh

[raw dove]

it said graphene on it

[jagged ember]

Itd probably be fine without the metal piece

[dusky hearth]

interesting

[stoic island]

Yea it should be fine either way

[jagged ember]

Aahh that is interesting

Yeah don't necessarily need it

[dusky hearth]

if your mobo doesnt have an integrated heatspreader, you should probably put it on

[stoic island]

It decided to do that instead of the usual half graphene sticker thing

[jagged ember]

Doesn't hurt to have it on

[stoic island]

Either the mobo heatsink will disperse the heat, or that graphene plate will, both works

You can choose to use it or not to use it

[raw dove]

its pretty chunky, the motherboard one

[jagged ember]

I'd just use the mobo one myself

[stoic island]

Might as well use the mobo one

[raw dove]

yeah

thanks

and the dual channel is fine as is?

[dusky hearth]

yeah

especially since you have them in a2 and b2

[jagged ember]

Seems like the right ones

[raw dove]

also do yall know what these 2 little post things are

[stoic island]

Mobo manufacturers are starting to use weird stuff like that to skip on using m.2 screws because m.2 screws are easy to lose

Sometimes it's a clip sometimes it's like that

Well it's standoff and screw but yea

[jagged ember]

Huh that's new

Usually it's just a plastic nubbin

Now is a nubbin with a string

[stoic island]

I've seen a few of the nubbin that spins

I feel like I've seen one like that before

[jagged ember]

Spins?

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-spin-gif-10300642414513246571

[stoic island]

Or rather flips over

One of these

Turning might be more accurate

But it's basically spin

[raw dove]

i see, thanks

builds coming along nice, only thing that threw me off was this usb c cable, since ive never seen one before and it didnt hook up to one of the normal headers with a pinout

had its own little slot thing

[serene matrix]

Hey yall. I got this CORSAIR Vengeance C70 Mid Tower Case. It is completely empty with no powersupply or anything. I wanted to slowly build it for gaming. However it's old so Im not sure if it can take modern hardware, especially since it still hase a blueray player installed on it. Any tips, knowledge or recomendations for a first time builder?

[dusky hearth]

atx hasnt changed much since it released
without looking at it, i would expect the issue you may encounter with using that case may just be that there's not enough airflow

having now looked at the case, it should be fine

[analog hearth]

2012 isn't that old for a case. You can practically fit any modern hardware in that thing. Just be aware that if you get 2.5" SSDs you might need 3.5" to 2.5" adapters (at least I'd imagine)

[dusky hearth]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gX8Zxr/corsair-vengeance-c70-atx-mid-tower-case-c70-military-green

[dusky hearth]

or you could just place it in the case and not screw it down because it's a ssd

and ssds dont really care

[analog hearth]

Die

lol

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[jagged ember]

Duct tape it smh

[analog hearth]

I’m on team "secure it"

[jagged ember]

Or even better just like

Friction mount it with cables

[dusky hearth]

on old cases like these, i tend to just tuck them into one of the 3.5" bays and call it a day

not like you're carrying around the case everyday

and if you are, you would have everything fastened down anyways

[serene matrix]

Imma put 5 hard drives in there

IF IT GIVES ME THE SPACE, THEN IMMA USE IT

[crimson zinc]

Real

[serene matrix]

I was lucky to get five for free. Two came form a old external hardrive I bashed open, another two from a old PC of my friend and then one other hard drive from my old PC. I actually ran out of space in my current PC for hard drives so I had to uh, get creative.

(I zipped tied it down to the wower supply)

[dusky hearth]

do note that for old hdds, it is not recommended to store important files on them (at least without 1 or more backup copies), as it could die at any moment

especially with 3tb drives

those are very unreliable, from pretty much every company

[serene matrix]

All I got are HDDs, had them for around 4 years now, seem to all be doing ok. And there 1 TB drives :)

so do not fear!

[dusky hearth]

yeah hdds last around 5-7 years on average in a home pc i'd say

well, even with new drives, you should always keep backups

even those arent safe from random death

[serene matrix]

My back up is prayers

If I lose them, Im going to goodwill to bash open more external hardrives from 2010

[dusky hearth]

i mean backup of important files

lol

[autumn wolf]

anyone by chance have a good 4070 part list?

(it does need to be an nvidia card)

[mossy venture]

Budget?

[autumn wolf]

yknow, forgor to ask. will ask but more than likely anywhere around the 1200-1400 usd mark

[mossy venture]

What's it being used for?

[autumn wolf]

gaming

[cyan ravine]

I do but it's a used 3080

Or a 4070 super

I will cough blood up before I suggest a 4070

[autumn wolf]

fwait

wait

hol up

[cyan ravine]

fwaiting

[autumn wolf]

i have received a budget

[cyan ravine]

Incoming budget

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMKj34

[autumn wolf]

fren said max of 2k usd

[cyan ravine]

Preparing brain to receive

[mossy venture]

Oh

[cyan ravine]

Beepbeepbeepbeep

[autumn wolf]

so probably better than 4070

[cyan ravine]

Ok 4080 super list it is

Cheapest 4080

[flint sapphire]

👀 2k budget

[mossy venture]

Does he happen to have a microcenter

[cyan ravine]

Nzxt c850

7800x3d

[flint sapphire]

7900xd*

[cyan ravine]

Cheapest cl30/cl32 32gb kit

No 7800x3d

I know what I is a saids

[flint sapphire]

but its $50 more

[cyan ravine]

A620m pro rs/a620i lightning

I know

Thermalright single tower for 17

[autumn wolf]

forgor if he does or not cause he moved. he used to live long beach area but think closer to hollywood area now

[cyan ravine]

Team g50 1tb

Sama im01

[autumn wolf]

idk where the micro center is here in cali

[cyan ravine]

That should be near 2k

Slap all that in a pcpartpicker it'll be ez sauce

Change to a different 850w if the c850 is no longer $99

@autumn wolf it's gaming right

[autumn wolf]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Ye 7800x3d

Ez

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

[flint sapphire]

use the $50 on a upgraded cpu cooler

no bully

[cyan ravine]

I'll upgrade ur cooler in a minute

[autumn wolf]

will say, 1080p gaming though but he'll upgrade monitors later. he just wants more fps rn over his current system

[cyan ravine]

1080p is not allowed here

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pMg67R

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ph8Vsh

[cyan ravine]

He wants 1080p he sticks to 6750xt or less

This is 1440p or bust

Anything more is a waste of gpu

On 1080p

[mossy venture]

Not allowed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gjCxyg

Mostly joking

[cyan ravine]

Like buying a ferrari then putting wheelbarrow tires on it

[autumn wolf]

to drop the price a bit can i just switch to a 4070 super or that zotac gpu in that list and add more storage

[mossy venture]

Definitely

4070 super is better value than ti super

[cyan ravine]

Sure then he can get a 1440p oled

[autumn wolf]

i know i said and he said max 2k but sending a max 2k list off rip is a bit

[cyan ravine]

And take an actual upgrade to his fps experience

[mossy venture]

Can send him all 3

X3d is overpriced rn though

[cyan ravine]

@autumn wolf send this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sy7xyg

Oled at the bottom

[mossy venture]

If he has a microcenter, id grab the 7600x3d bundle

[autumn wolf]

[cyan ravine]

No 1080p screen is better than a 240hz oled

None

I bet I could make this 2K flat hold on

[autumn wolf]

this bundle right?

oop theres more bundlesa

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bGRd34

2K flat

Highly suggest an oled here

[autumn wolf]

🗿

[cyan ravine]

Found more

Ktc is 550

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pvkNfy

$1 more @autumn wolf I made it pretty
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Zdk4M

$5 more you could fit a 4070 super eagle

Boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2BHHkJ

[mossy venture]

Should be 7600x3d for $450

[autumn wolf]

ye saw the other bundle once i realized the pic i sent only had 1 stick of ram

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTxzz6

[cyan ravine]

Put oily led

[mossy venture]

Yeah, it's still a solid price but you'd need to buy a second stick of the ram, and the mobo is pretty lacking. The 7700x bundle isn't too much more than the 7600x bundle and a second stick of ram, but the 7600x3d is around 15% better than both in games

[mossy venture]

$400 is a big jump for what sounds like someone with fairly moderate expectations

[cyan ravine]

So let's blow his expectations out of the water with the best endgame he can buy

Let's make him a cult follower of the newegg

A believer of techieism

(I accept donations)

[autumn wolf]

💀

[restive halo]

Anyone know y I'm getting an error code when downloading a game from steam?

[cyan ravine]

Ram might still be unstable but less unstable as it was before

Swap the sticks over to the other 2 and try again, slots 2 & 4

[restive halo]

Oh I put all 4 back in. Lol I thought it was just the one issue. So I need to keep those ram out permanently

[cyan ravine]

Uh huh

Lol

Mixing is a permanent problem, you should buy a new 2x16 or 4x8 kit for 32gb

Can't add other sticks, gotta be a complete set

2x16gb starts at $50-ish new

[jagged ember]

Yeah just buy a new set

Mixing them even with the same name can have issues

As you seen

[vale epoch]

God why are all nvidia mid range cards so overpriced

This is near high end gpu territory

In terms of pricing

[potent portal]

Remember when the 1080 ti launched and it was $700 and people thought that was too much? How foolish we were.

[vale epoch]

Man i’m getting my 7900xt replaced today cuz it gonked out and was looking for alternatives cuz its the second one that gonked out on me but seeing the prices

[potent portal]

So you're taking advantage of the microcenter return policy while you wait for RMA, is that it?

[vale epoch]

Nope when i got my first 7900xt replaced i got their protection plan just to be extra safe and its convenient cuz micro is only a 20 minute drive for me and i have heard good things abt their protection plan, such as offering an exchange or continue the protection plan by having them fix it

The thing just gonks out when vram usage gets over 10 gigs

[potent portal]

Ah nice

[mossy venture]

then two gens later we got 3080 ti at $1200

lmao

[cyan ravine]

I would keep trying

Tbh that bracket is awful for nvidia unless 4080 Super for sub 950

4070 Ti was briefly great, evaporated quick once 4070 ti super dropped

7900XT just stands head and shoulders above the rest between the GRE and 4080S/XTX

[vale epoch]

I could go 4080s but it highly unnecessary for my use case so it would be a waste tbh

[cyan ravine]

Keep trying 7900xt imo

Or go GRE

Or wait for a 4070S sale

590 is a bit meh

GRE for what, 525? Fantastic

700 for 7900xt also

Really good

I would be convinced of a 4070S for 560-ish rn

4070 Ti for 670

Ti Super doesn't exist for all I care

7900XT is scary cos raw raster puts it right between a 4080/S and a 4070 Ti Super

If RT doesn't mean much to you (You'd know by now tbh)

[vale epoch]

I’m gonna see if they have a gre with a top tier heatsink like the powercolor red devil or asus tuf if not prolly gonna go with the 7900xt again

[cyan ravine]

Paying more than the lowest price for a GRE isn't wise imo

All have downbin hynix vram, you won't see any benefit to extra anything

Only early ones had good bins

[vale epoch]

What kind of vram does the 7900xt have?

Is it different among different aibs?

[cyan ravine]

Downbin hynix

18gbps rated

Except unlike early versions able to do over 22gbps

They all do only 18gbps now

[vale epoch]

Damn for vram samsung chips are preferred right?

[cyan ravine]

Can't remember

Maybe micron

For GRE specifically

[potent portal]

Last I checked there was only one vram vendor for every GRE

[cyan ravine]

Hynix rn

Early high clockers, iirc, micron

[manic cloak]

Currently there’s a 3070 about an hour away for 150$

Issue is - it’s a eagle model, and the sellers system is detecting “unknown gpu”

[languid nimbus]

oop

[manic cloak]

It seems like half a buy

It’s a solid price, but it’s an eagle.

[potent portal]

Gigabyte 30 series are the ones that had cracking PCBs

It's probably dead

[manic cloak]

Cracked PCBs, known to artifact, heating issues, basically any problem you could think of

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine @earnest olive TL;DR: Running a Ryzen 7900X for about a month. 6000 MHz (XMP setting) as well default speeds (4800 MHz, obviously no XMP) both causing system instability, 4800 MHz being the better setting. How should I go about fixing this?

I hate to ask but I think I've been having some memory issues. Since changing to Ryzen, I've been having a weird system stutter that happens every so often most noticeable when I move my mouse and have it do this weird stutter. I'll also notice the animating RGB inside my PC will also stutter

I talked to bacca about it a couple times but I don't think either of y'all were around at the time. But he told me to do a memory test, which I used OCCT so I can observe whether memory is the issue, which it confirmed my theory

I've first noticed this when running XMP (Expo?), which is 6000 MHz (don't know the timings). I've also done the same OCCT test with XMP off, which makes the system more stable but it's still not as stable as when I was on an Intel platform a couple months ago

Sorry for the long story. My main question: is there a sweet spot that has been everchanging for Ryzen 7000 CPUs (in particular the 7900X, which is what I'm running)? I've seen some people say to run the memory at 6000 MHz but I've also seen some others (AMD on their 7900X's specs sheet as well) state that the max memory speed is 5200 MHz. I've also seen an article (forgot where) stating that the memory should be at 6000 MHz with an FLCK of 2000 MHz (does this setting apply when changing XMP, or would I have to manually change this?)

Sorry for the long paragraph 💀

I figure either of y'all would know

[cyan ravine]

Define more detail to it

[analog hearth]

Yeah one sec lemme ellaborate a bit

[cyan ravine]

Cos specific behaviours attribute different sides of the coin

[analog hearth]

wym?

[cyan ravine]

The type of slow down specifics could point to different things

Have I talked about my AM5 rma here?

I sent my own board and cpu back last week for a similar issue

[analog hearth]

It's basically a random stutter that happens maybe like around four times every minute

[cyan ravine]

Like a pause?

Just for an instant

[analog hearth]

More like a microstutter

[cyan ravine]

Ok lemme simplify

Is it like, every 15 seconds, red light, green light in an instant

Or is it a bit of a longer one

Or is it many

[analog hearth]

Yeah and that red light lasts for like not even half a second

[cyan ravine]

Half a second pause

Ok

Have you done ddu

[analog hearth]

Like a 1% low frame drop if that makes sense. Only it's not as insane as having a bad PC and experiencing 1% lows like those "budget builds" you see on YouTube lol

[cyan ravine]

Ah

[analog hearth]

I haven't done a DDU but I've been thinking about it recently

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

Try ddu

First idea

[analog hearth]

I'll try later. I just woke up lol. I'll let you know the result

[cyan ravine]

Second, do anta777 extreme testmem5

Let it run 3 cycles

No errors? Go to number 3

Unplug all but keyboard and mouse, restart, test for stutters

Doing anything

(and monitor)

Have you had any random shutdowns?

Or unusual bsods

Those I would investigate the kind of error

One sec

Reference this gold mine of a reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/kq69ay/psa_bsod_error_code_diagnosis_possible_solutions/

Cross check the error against it

That might give you an indicator of what to investigate or try as a solution

If none of this works, I'd consider windows nuke and maybe a hardware fault

Number 3 could be hardware too, but related to I/O

Could also not be I/O fault

sfc /scannow would also tell you if you had any windows corruption

[analog hearth]

No BSODs and no random shutdowns. The closest thing to a random shutdown is that my PC kinda stalled during the shutdown process. Screens and everything turned off but I noticed that it took a second longer to shutdown after noticing that the RGB stopped animating

[cyan ravine]

Stalled like, black screen or

[analog hearth]

Did this yesterday and it found some corruption. Issue persisted. Imma try to run it again

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah run it again

If it finds more today, it's memory or watchdog

[analog hearth]

Hard to explain. It just had a pause during its shutdown process. This was before I updated my BIOS though (original BIOS was from February of this year. Updated to the latest non-beta, which is from the 5th of this month)

[analog hearth]

No corruption this time

Bruh where's this Anta777 Extreme download lol

[cyan ravine]

Possibly a bsod but not a bad one

[cyan ravine]

So less likely to have an issue

[cyan ravine]

Oc.net

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

[analog hearth]

Nirsoft BlueScreenView doesn't show any sign of a BSOD

bett

@cyan ravine Speaking of all of this though, I have my memory at default DDR5 speeds (4800 MHz). Obviously Ryzen has a recommended memory speed but Google is telling me different speeds. What's the recommended speed for the 7900X?

I'm thinking about just tuning my memory as well and see if that changes anything, given that I've found that 4800 MHz is more stable than the XMP setting lol

[cyan ravine]

Didn't load anta777

The default takes like 10 minutes

Anta takes like 2 hours lol

Gotta load the config

[analog hearth]

Gotcha

I guess I load it and then I have to launch TM5 again?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[analog hearth]

Yeah my RGB's animations are pausing lol. I think it stopped for like five seconds at one point lol

Still running though

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it'll do that

Btw recommended speed depends on rank and capacity

[analog hearth]

Oh gotcha

32GB but don't know the rank

[cyan ravine]

Probably 1R x2 iirc

Which is recommended for like 5600 or 4800

Ideal, sweet spot? "6000" officially

[analog hearth]

I wish I still had my Micro Center receipt so I could look up the memory lol

Computer is a stuttery mess with this test atm lol

Can't look it up rn

[cyan ravine]

Ya leave it to run

Turn the other stuff off tbh

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine

bruh

[earnest olive]

what's vsoc at?

unless you're already at 1.25+ I'd try bumping that

[cyan ravine]

The window would've had a number on it

So yeah move to next

[analog hearth]

That wouldn't be in the BIOS, would it? Can't find it and couldn't find it in HWinfo

[earnest olive]

could be called soc voltage or whatever

[analog hearth]

For the CPU? It's set to Auto and bouncing around at 1.050, hasn't touched 1.1 while in the BIOS

I have pretty much everything set to defaults after updating my BIOS last night if that helps

[cyan ravine]

SoC could potentially do it

You'd need a different test tho

[analog hearth]

I mean I’m down for a different test if it increases stability

I’ve found the XMP profile for my memory: 6000 MHz 36-36-36-96 at 1.35V

Not sure if the timings are good or bad lol

If I set the XMP profile, "FCLK Frequency" stays at the "Auto" setting. Should I set this to 3000 MHz given the 2:1 rule, or is that old information?

@earnest olive what do you think?

[earnest olive]

2:1 fclk doesn't apply for zen 5

you can try setting it to 2000

3000 won't post

it's almost certainly autoing to 2000 with xmp on

1.1 vsoc seems low try static 1.2

[analog hearth]

I'll try that with XMP on

This is also on one of those motherboards that has the "DOCP 1" and "DOCP 2" settings. Don't know if that matters lol

DOCP 1 states that it's optimize by Asus (Asus motherboard obviously)

DOCP 2 states that it will load the "complete default DOCP/EXPO profile"

[mossy venture]

You do have your ram in slots 2 and 4 right?

[analog hearth]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Worth checking lol

[analog hearth]

Lolll I get it

[manic cloak]

Trying to buy a used PSU for a friend because his went to 💩 and the seller mentioned this

Description said “You should buy new cables.”

It’s for the Asus Tuf 850w

[analog hearth]

I'm gonna try 1.15V (manual, not offset) and increase in increments of 0.025V if this setting still doesn't lead to stability

So:

• XMP on (6000 MHz, 36-36-36-96 at 1.35V. DOCP 1 if that matters)
• FLCK set to 2000 MHz
• SOC: is set to 1.15V

I’ve read that 1.2V is kinda high lol

[earnest olive]

I believe 1.3 is the safe limit

maybe you were reading something for AM4

[analog hearth]

Possibly

[earnest olive]

the 7800x3d I had autoed 1.25 vsoc for 6000/2000

[analog hearth]

Oh bruh okay then

Good thing I’m still in the BIOS. I'll change that to 1.2

[cyan ravine]

Bronze???

[cyan ravine]

Sounds like a plan

Test occt large extreme cycle 18

Test all core static and switching all cores independently at 1 hour each

[analog hearth]

I'll try this with the CPU first and then do the CPU + RAM setting

[mossy venture]

How much is it

[manic cloak]

The gold

[manic cloak]

50$

[mossy venture]

Could just avoid the issue altogether with an extra ~$30

Psu is one of the last things I'd buy used honestly. The thing responsible for keeping my pc safe is the last thing I'd want to save money on

[manic cloak]

Well, the build it’s going into is a 3600x 3060 with only 16gb of ram, ngl it’s kinda overkill but it’s the best price we can get used

[mossy venture]

Oh then I'd just https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w

[manic cloak]

I’m not kidding I think I just saw that for 30$ on Facebook and I love refreshing the page

[analog hearth]

This mf really wants me to sit through a 12-hour test lol

Lollll

[cyan ravine]

I did not

2 hours not 12

1st static the 2nd switching between cores

[analog hearth]

"Test each core, switching cores every hour for your 12-core CPU" did I read that wrong? :0

[cyan ravine]

Switching cores independently

Eh whatever it's like 4am dude

2 hours

[cyan ravine]

^

Can't expect clear tech support at 4am

Lucky I'm not drunk or this would be even wilder

[analog hearth]

my bad lol. You should go to sleep 💀

I may have fixed my actual main issue anyways. My gf and I were playing It Takes Two last night and I had horrible 1% lows all throughout playing it lol

Stressful game and I'm glad her game crashed because we just went to Overcooked after that lolll

[analog hearth]

Runs smooth now after changing to these settings

Still don't know about the weird stutter yet. I haven't done much playing around within Windows yet lol

Moving around a bunch in Bambu Studio also feels a lot smoother (going from BIOS defaults to new settings)

[obtuse compass]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-000Z-001N2?Item=9SIA1HJK8G3781&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA1HJK8G3781-_-09212024

Need opinions on this

[analog hearth]

My issues currently: about as goofy as SoreFingertips'

[upper rock]

hey guys.
could anyone suggest a good/durable monitor, these are the items that are listed based on priority.

• it should work for mac and windows laptop as well flawlessly
• durability
• good to my eyes. i maintain a distance of 2 feet and i spend around 15-16 hrs before the monitor
• type c
• 24 or 27inch
• pivot /tilt / height adjustment
  work type: programming

[dusky hearth]

Any budget?

Also for the adjustments, you can use a gas spring monitor arm and you'll have way more adjustments

Assuming you have unlimited budget, Dell U4025QW (1.8k)

Though it's only an ips black panel

But supports thunderbolt, and has a kvm

For a more reasonable price, there's the Acer Nitro XV275K P3biipruzx that rtings rates as the best overall usbc monitor, does not have kvm or thunderbolt; it uses dp alt mode

Still works with both windows and macos

Dell S2722QC is a bit cheaper if that it still out of the budget, and is also still dp alt mode

(thunderbolt monitors are rare)

And then for a bit less again, ASUS ProArt Display PA278CV

[crimson zinc]

Sky tech immediate no

What’s your budget

Do you absolutely need a prebuilt? Or could you put it together yourself?

[vale epoch]

Bruh goofy as who?!

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-gawrsh-a-goofy-movie-disney-cartoon-gif-26563660

[upper rock]

thanks @dusky hearth

[cyan ravine]

He does get men tbh

[cyan ravine]

Did you run those occt tests btw

You could also do prime95 large but it's less effective on ryzen

[analog hearth]

Nah took too long

[cyan ravine]

Bruv it might be unstable💀

Just cos it feels better doesn't mean it's got a clean bill of health

[analog hearth]

Okay fine I'll try it again lol

[cyan ravine]

It's xmp, I'm not saying to test everything under the sun, 2 hours would reassure everything's fine

[analog hearth]

So which test again? CPU, CPU and memory, or just memory?

[cyan ravine]

Go watch a movie

Like Shrek or smthn

[cyan ravine]

Occt large extreme cycle 18 cycle all cores 1 at a time for a total of 1 hour

Then the same test, static all cores

1 hour

[analog hearth]

How does this look?

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

Sorry, instruction set avx2

Or 512 if available

[analog hearth]

Bett I have 512

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise ye looks good

Alr hit it

Close everything else let it work

[analog hearth]

bett just started it

[analog hearth]

Test is almost done

Like one minute left

No errors

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

Good sign, then you try the all core version

Swap rules to custom, then all cores

1 hour again

If no errors you're probably in the clear

If you got more ram related issues after that I'd be sus of the hardware

Cos notching up the vsoc is pretty heavy handed

[analog hearth]

How does this look?

[cyan ravine]

For xmp

[cyan ravine]

Looks like discord

[analog hearth]

my bad forgot to paste the image 💀

I'm an idiot lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh I'm silly

Swap core cycling to fixed

I'm not used to the newer ui

Then do whatever threads you have

24?

[analog hearth]

Yeah 24

[cyan ravine]

Close everything else and hit it

[analog hearth]

Thread Count is the only setting and it's set to 24

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[analog hearth]

bett imma start it

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine like three minutes left and no errors

Just completed. No errors

[cyan ravine]

You're probably safe then

You could do the tm5 anta run to be extra sure but I would like to believe AM5 running xmp-6000 will run with no further adjustments

Like 99% of every other supposed am5 cpu apparently

[analog hearth]

Yeah I think I'll run that just to be sure

I paid for the whole CPU

(Yeah 312 process don't laugh at me. I paid for the whole CPU and it can handle all of them. Yes I know it's bad, yes I plan to fix it)

[cyan ravine]

CPU: AAAAAAAAAA-

[analog hearth]

Lmaooo

[analog hearth]

lol basically a one-slot gap between the GPU and fans

(A different build btw)

Ehh, not the cleanest but whatever

And yes I’m on the floor

Don't care lol

[vale epoch]

You guys got any case suggestions that aren’t too big like this 903 air? I honestly think with all the extra space in here looks a bit bad, not looking to buy right away but maybe when one goes on sale perhaps, i think i would still like to stick to the atx standard tho, buying a new mobo would be a pain

[silver bough]

Hello I am currently building my pc and I am so confused where to put the tach cable on the manual is says put it on the cpu fan but the cpu fan has 4 pins and my tach cable only has 3 pins

[analog hearth]

this guy putting a tachometer in his computer

[stoic island]

3 pin fan connector can be plugged into 4 pin fan header, the 4th pin is pwm, if the fan connector is only 3 pins, it's just not using the pwm pin

It goes 12v, ground, tach, pwm iirc

[dusky hearth]

gotta revmatch your pc

[manic cloak]

How do I find those eBay 10-15% off coupons?

Unless there isn’t any going on atm

[crimson zinc]

Usually dependent on the deals section

[cyan ravine]

Articles normally plaster it right next to the price if it applies

[vague oracle]

Time to take up the space with a custom loop

[crimson zinc]

I need this colour

[jagged ember]

Monster green

[flint sapphire]

Found it

[manic cloak]

bomb pop green

I know this case is seemingly liked by a few people here, but how does it compare to the fractal pop air? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPHG6NSH?

Friend of mine was looking for a new case, but doesn't want a big/heavy case

[crimson zinc]

@manic cloak fractal design pop air

Or if he has knowledge of how to fix stuff, the jonsbo C6

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MM7scf/jonsbo-jonsplus-z20-microatx-desktop-case-z20-black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8qRwrH/jonsbo-d31-mesh-microatx-mini-tower-case-d31-mesh-black

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RMWJ7P/sama-im01-pro-microatx-mini-tower-case-sama-im01-pro-bkg

[mossy venture]

this case is also fine, idrk how the fans are but felix likes it which is good enough for me

[plucky timber]

ooo

I'm a huge fan of this mini matx form factor

they're not too big but you can fit a lot in them

the well designed ones anyways

[cyan ravine]

Pop air def better, but this one was the better of the two novas from bitfenix.

It's just a decent mesh box with fans

[manic cloak]

Looking into these cases I certainly love the matx @mossy venture (ty btw) recommended, he's currently upgrading from a 2020 iGPU build off a 3600x and it needs a whole makeover 😭

I believe he wanted 600$ budget to get a new CPU, a GPU, a better case, a PSU greater than 430w, and a m.2

[plucky timber]

you can do all of that without the gpu

[manic cloak]

It's late and i'll definitely get a response in the morning about the cases, but he just didn't want something as big as the pop air sitting on the desk unless it was the last resort

[plucky timber]

is he willing to get used parts?

[manic cloak]

I know but he wants a gpu and yes willing to buy used/refrubished for most

[plucky timber]

hmm

[manic cloak]

issue is

[plucky timber]

yeah $600 doesn't seem too farfetched

[manic cloak]

fbm in my area is dry

[plucky timber]

what about ebay?

[manic cloak]

we have some gpu's like the zotac 3060ti at 210$

[mossy venture]

He alr has the 3600x?

[manic cloak]

no deals, haven't seen anything good

[plucky timber]

you might be able to find a 1080ti for cheaper

[manic cloak]

ya he does

[mossy venture]

What mobo?

[plucky timber]

does he really need a new cpu tho

[manic cloak]

b450m pro4 by asrock

[mossy venture]

Few min

[manic cloak]

the thing is, I think he 100% needs a m.2 cause bootup takes about 8 minutes for him.. 💀

[plucky timber]

does he have an ssd?

[manic cloak]

he doesn't even know what he has

[cyan ravine]

Just use the 3600x

[plucky timber]

yeah

more money towards the gpu budget

you could probably get the uhh

[cyan ravine]

Stick it in any of those cases

[plucky timber]

6750xt or whatever the cheap one is

[manic cloak]

there is a 5600G for 50$ in my area

[plucky timber]

no

waste of money

[manic cloak]

but I don't think that's any good

ya

[plucky timber]

you'll barely get any performance

[manic cloak]

324.99 for a zotac 3070ti on ebay

[plucky timber]

it's only really worth it if you're going to a 5800x3d

[cyan ravine]

Literally 3600x with an igpu

[plucky timber]

and even that is ehhh

5800x3d still costs quite a bit

[cyan ravine]

$600 is too low for a platform upgrade from 3600x

Period

Use it on other stuff

[plucky timber]

psu, gpu, nvme

that should be enough

[cyan ravine]

Case, cooler, nvme, psu, gpu

Go full on 1080p

[manic cloak]

correction he has a 3200G 😭

[plucky timber]

that's zen+ right?

[cyan ravine]

Oh well now that's just messed up

[mossy venture]

What ram does he have?

[manic cloak]

I think he has a 3600x though

[plucky timber]

ok yeah 5600g is justifible

[manic cloak]

so

[plucky timber]

wait

[cyan ravine]

5500

[plucky timber]

so does he have a 3600x

that he can use in the build

[manic cloak]

i'll have to double check in the morning, but i'm 100% he was talking about having 3600x, just his current build has a 3200G

[plucky timber]

right

what's the complete specs of his current setup?

[cyan ravine]

Continue this after we know

No point waxing on 5 possibilities

[plucky timber]

yeah we don't really have enough information

[manic cloak]

3200G, B450M Pro4, 16gb of 3200mhz cl16, 430w psu, no gpu, and 512gb of storage on some storage device

that's the most I know atm

[plucky timber]

so

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RRGLvj

[plucky timber]

512gb?

[mossy venture]

5700x3d should be fine without changing mobo?

[plucky timber]

that's probably an ssd

[mossy venture]

Nah

[manic cloak]

any different to the mp44L?

[cyan ravine]

Check pins #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[plucky timber]

could be a really bloated fs

might be fixed by reinstalling windows

correction

might be fixed by fresh installing windows

that way you don't get fragmented partitions

[manic cloak]

tbh it might be a hard drive, 2020, from the build itself it was likely build on such a low budget

[mossy venture]

Tried looking and the image is super pixilated on mobile

[plucky timber]

unlikely

[cyan ravine]

Open in browser

Sorry hands full

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[plucky timber]

hdds don't come in 512gb

[mossy venture]

No you're good ty

[plucky timber]

and also that's way too low of a capacity for 2020

ssds also weren't that expensive in 2020

[manic cloak]

true

[plucky timber]

the ssd might just be really full

or ntfs

or any number of possibilities

[mossy venture]

Is orange 150a ok

Key is cut off

[plucky timber]

that being said

getting a new ssd won't hurt

[manic cloak]

what's the difference between the SSD and MP44L? SSD sheet has nothing on it 😭

[mossy venture]

Idk either is fine it won't really make a difference

This is tlc I forget if the mp44l is or if it's qlc

[manic cloak]

from what I know, he has steam, warzone, and minecraft on it. he used to have valorant but uninstalled it

[manic cloak]

TLC

[plucky timber]

warzone would easily fill up 512gb

[manic cloak]

Q is QLC

[plucky timber]

combined with everything else that is

unoptimized crap

[manic cloak]

how about every game mode having the whole warzone map downloaded in the background

[plucky timber]

"should we compress our game assets?"

"nah that'll cost us money"

[cyan ravine]

150a orange means needs vrm airflow

105W green is fine(iirc?)

[plucky timber]

iirc the pro 4 isn't too bad

It's one of those budget boards that's not really good for higher end chips but they're not crap gigabytes either

[cyan ravine]

I can't check

I know one of the pro4's is great

[plucky timber]

that being said I wouldn't put a ryzen 9 on it

[mossy venture]

B550 is

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[plucky timber]

the B450 one is budget board

tho last time it was relevant it was in the zen 2 era

so my info's a couple years out of date

[mossy venture]

Anyways, it's not like he loses anything by keeping the cpu mobo and ram now.

[plucky timber]

yeah

the board's passable

[mossy venture]

Just means postponing the upgrade

Or just go to am5 if he decides to

[plucky timber]

that's probably the better decision tbh

if the vrms are dubious

might as well go to am5

[mossy venture]

5600 should be like 80-90 used too

[plucky timber]

5600 should be fine but if he's already got a 3600x then eh

[mossy venture]

Either choice makes sense just depends what route they want to go, it's like a 20% upgrade still?

[plucky timber]

I'm gonna go on a hunch and say that a 5700x3d would be fine on it

[mossy venture]

Maybe closer to 15%

[plucky timber]

not an official recommendation

don't listen to me

but I'd think it'd be fine

[mossy venture]

Dual tower and a fan above the cpu on the top of the case should give the vrms enough airflow I'd imagine

[plucky timber]

yeah

It was a pretty good budget board back in the zen 2 era

along with the cheaper msis

I miss when boards were cheap

[manic cloak]

i'm searching facebook atm for any cheap a620s

there are a bunch of 6000cl36 32gb from 50-80$ because of microcenter deals

so pair it with a cheap 7500f, 7600, etc

[mossy venture]

Tbf we had $110 a620m gaming x that could run a 7950x

But that's oos for a while

[plucky timber]

b450 and b350 vrms were a lot more mid iirc

some of the lower end boards were very questionable

[mossy venture]

Yeah vrms on am5 are great

[plucky timber]

msi boards are were generally solid on b450

some b350 could run zen 2 to a limited extent

[mossy venture]

Spend $150-160 and you have a board for any cpu with multiple m.2 slots and a good few usb slots

[plucky timber]

but yeah b350-b450 vrms were very inconsistent

[mossy venture]

$190 gets you basically top end with riptide

[plucky timber]

yeah the boards cost more these days but they're generally pretty solid

[manic cloak]

190$ 7600xt

that any good?

or just another renamed 6600xt

[mossy venture]

Idk I wasn't into pcs before 5000 series came out so I wouldnt know

[mossy venture]

It's about 6700 perf

10% below 6700xt

[plucky timber]

I was in the budget scene around 3000

it wasn't the best time to build

so builds those days were very questionable

a lot of cutting corners

[mossy venture]

$190 isn't bad, the extra vram will help it age better but it's kinda underpowered for 1440p imo

I think I'd focus budget on a good gpu now and then either get a 5600 for cheap, or upgrade to a 5700x3d down the line

[plucky timber]

yeah you'd get the most performance/$ from even only upgrading the gpu

[mossy venture]

Maybe a 6800 if you could find one around $320 or cheaper

[manic cloak]

oh what an amazing deal, only if it wasn't 6 hours away

[mossy venture]

Oof

That with a 7500f

[manic cloak]

• 50-80$ 32gb 6000 ram

[mossy venture]

You could check hws

[manic cloak]

better than micro center's 7600 16gb deal

[manic cloak]

hws?

[mossy venture]

R/hardwareswap

[manic cloak]

I haven't used reddit in a solid year

isn't that the place where you do literal trading with add ons to get something you want?

85$ with a foot pic.. 😭

[mossy venture]

?

[manic cloak]

Its some other reddit page I was thinking about when I was trying to sell my 6650xt

[mossy venture]

Ah

[manic cloak]

Is there anything special I would have to do in paypal to set up the buyer seller protection program?

[potent portal]

You just have to select "goods and services" if you're paying directly. If it's through ebay, it's automatic.

If someone tries to get you to pay "friends and family" to "get fewer fees" then they're either a scammer or really don't know how these things work.

[manic cloak]

Zotac 3060ti (250$ refrub after tax) or Msi 2080 ti? (200$ fbm)

I don't know if there's been any performance gap since.. 2 years because the sheet in #graphics-cards hasn't been updated 😭

[severe dove]

Is this the normal behaviour for 7800x3d? 4.8 Ghz max. Thought it was something like 5.05 Ghz

[strong raft]

use hwinfo

[jagged ember]

Windows is pretty bad at seeing precise values

[potent portal]

The 2080 ti still has a strong lead, thanks to the extra vram partially

[brittle tinsel]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5700X3D-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X/ref=crc_cko_cp_d_sccl_2_6/140-0899663-9109269?pd_rd_w=BL2a8&content-id=amzn1.sym.e311c02f-136d-43be-b39b-5e2d28a1c8e2&pf_rd_p=e311c02f-136d-43be-b39b-5e2d28a1c8e2&pf_rd_r=EG9JHCN4Y48VZZWRE57K&pd_rd_wg=WCtFN&pd_rd_r=4f19c85a-d4eb-40ab-a16c-8986746b0d8b&pd_rd_i=B0CQ4H4H7X&psc=1

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b450m-a/

Are these compatible without a bios update?

[plucky timber]

how's zen 2 threadripper compared to raptor lake?

asking for a friend

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvF4RK

I've recommended this as an upgrade to their server but they are exploring used threadripper as an option

(they were looking at skylake HEDT before)

[fossil cedar]

Whats the server for?

[plucky timber]

no idea

gonna ask him

[plucky timber]

hosting game servers

ark, minecraft,etc.

[potent portal]

Those would want stronger single core performance so rpl probably better

[mossy venture]

I'd take a 7700 instead imo
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5169vs5835/AMD-Ryzen-7-7700-vs-Intel-i5-14500

Could prob find a 5950x relatively cheap used

[plucky timber]

hmm

Yeah I'll relay the message on

[south cliff]

Hey guys been a while

this pc worth it for 200-225?

i think its a pretty good deal ngl

[covert vapor]

3 dimms

[south cliff]

i would just buy a stick of 8

[south cliff]

im kinda trying to upgrade my freind from a 9600k and a rx 570

[covert vapor]

I mean if it all works

[south cliff]

i always make them send video with timestamp

[covert vapor]

Used 1080 ti is on Ebay for 150-160 or so from what I've seen

[south cliff]

oh so hopefully the guy before me doesent pick it up

the hurricane better come in clutch

[potent portal]

That's in the "too good to be true" range of deals, be careful.

[south cliff]

yeah someone alread in line to get it

[potent portal]

Maybe reverse image search the pic to see if it's ripped from somewhere else

[south cliff]

didnt come back to anything so i guess thats a positive

[south cliff]

should i offer him more like 275

just to see if i can get it

[potent portal]

No

[south cliff]

🫡

[rough loom]

man 1080ti is a real old gpu at this point

actually what a buddy of mine is saving up to replace because its showing its age

[south cliff]

better than the rx570

and dont forget 1080ti is the goat of all gpus

[covert vapor]

Your daily reminder that the GTX 1060 is the 9th most popular GPU in the Steam Hardware Survey

[rough loom]

its cuz they sold a trillion of them and they are worth 34 cents at this point

[covert vapor]

A majority sell for over $60 on Ebay

Anyways, the 1080ti was a top tier product for the 10 series. Top tier and halo products tend to maintain their relevance longer. Why do you think people held onto their 4790k for so long despite being old

[mossy venture]

Considering it's still competitive against the 4060, it's still relevant

The older architecture is a downside but it's still a decent card

[wispy wind]

can I use a Ryzen 7 5700X3D on a ASUS B450-M MB?

[plucky timber]

which motherboard specifically?

[dusky hearth]

weird ass blue

[wispy wind]

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b450m-a/

[plucky timber]

you will need a bios update

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-is-coming-winter-is-coming-gif-25047375

[wispy wind]

gotcha thanks!

[plucky timber]

do you have a compatible ryzen cpu (Ryzen 3000) to update the bios with?

[wispy wind]

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor, 3400 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s) this is the CPU i have rightnow with the MB i have said above.

[plucky timber]

ah

you should be good to update the bios then

although

[wispy wind]

Gotcha, Is it hard to do a bios update (first time)

[plucky timber]

that motherboard has no vrm cooling

not sure if it could handle a 5700x3d

[wispy wind]

Ah what MB do you think could run that CPU

[plucky timber]

hmm

I'll have to pull up the tier list brb

[mossy venture]

If you put a fan on the vrms it'd be fine

The vrms are those squarish things near the cpu socket, there's probably a tutorial on YouTube

[plucky timber]

yeah

[mossy venture]

If changing mobo, I would go to am5

[plucky timber]

the vrms aren't ideal but it's only a ryzen 7

shouldn't be too bad

[wispy wind]

Alright

[plucky timber]

I wouldn't overclock it tho

[wispy wind]

Nah have never overclocked anything and have no need to really.

[mossy venture]

For am5, id get a 7500f at $137 from aliexpress or a 7600 for $188-195 or so with an a620m pro rs wifi at $130 or the b650m at 140-150

But you'd need new ram too. Depending on the ram you have, it might need replacing anyways

[plucky timber]

the tier list uses a Ryzen 3000 as a reference but it looks like it just recommends that you have airflow for a 3700X/3800X

[wispy wind]

Yeah i have new ram on the list

[mossy venture]

Then at that point I would go to am5

[plucky timber]

honestly the jump from the 2600 to a 5700x3d isn't bad

[wispy wind]

Gotcha

[mossy venture]

What's your budget for the upgrade and what parts are you replacing?

[wispy wind]

I will notict a change though right?

[plucky timber]

HUGE change

[wispy wind]

Notice*

[plucky timber]

to am5 i mean

[wispy wind]

Good good thats what i want

[plucky timber]

5700x3d is still a pretty big leap

[mossy venture]

.

[plucky timber]

and you are in a pretty good position to take advantage of the am4 platform's upgradability

[mossy venture]

Ehh

When needing to replace ram and with a meh mobo am5 isn't a bad choice, it just depends on the budget

[plucky timber]

true

[mossy venture]

5600 might be a good choice too

[wispy wind]

About $500 AUD but i could spent around 1k

[plucky timber]

oh

1k could get you an entirely new pc

[wispy wind]

yeah

[plucky timber]

wait no

that's aud

nvm

[wispy wind]

but i dont really need a new pc 😄

[plucky timber]

we're working with half as much here

[mossy venture]

What ram are you currently on?

[plucky timber]

imagine if it's 2400

[mossy venture]

Here's am5
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/V8yHn6

[wispy wind]

On a corsair vengence pro

32gb

4sticks

[plucky timber]

do you have that right now?

[wispy wind]

yeah

[plucky timber]

eh don't think you'll need a ram upgrade

[mossy venture]

What speed?

[plucky timber]

unless you're upgrading the whole system that is

would be very disappointed if it's 2666 or something

[mossy venture]

Might not have xmp enabled

[plucky timber]

true

[mossy venture]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mNqsDZ

If ram is needed

[wispy wind]

i dont remember the speed i think 3200mhz?

[plucky timber]

yeah that'd be fine

[mossy venture]

Oh that's fine then, id keep that

[wispy wind]

(i could be wrong)

[plucky timber]

that'd bring the cost down to $420

not bad

[mossy venture]

If you stay on am4 anyways

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XNdN28

[wispy wind]

Ok ok

[plucky timber]

are the cheap 7500Fs still a thing?

[mossy venture]

Though selling your b450 and ram should makeup a good bit of the price difference

[mossy venture]

Sadly $17 more than 7600 lol

And no stock cooler

[plucky timber]

aw

unfortunate

[wispy wind]

aw gotcha

[plucky timber]

yeah am5 is quite a big leap

I'd say it might end up costing not that much more if you sell your cpu, ram and motherboard

[mossy venture]

Well speaking of, what's your power supply, gpu, and os drive (whatever drive windows is on)?

[wispy wind]

yeah,ill see what happens

[mossy venture]

If you have an hdd for your windows drive I'd 100% get an ssd first

[plucky timber]

yeah you could also save up a bit more for a full system upgrade while you're at it

[mossy venture]

Wouldn't say that just yet

Sorry not trying to shoot you down or anything

[plucky timber]

yeah I'm a bit too eagar lol

[mossy venture]

Just don't want to talk someone into spending money if it's not needed

[wispy wind]

so i have a pretty low 750w PSU and i have a brand new 7600x amd gpu

[plucky timber]

7600xt?

oh yeah that's great

[wispy wind]

yeah i think so

[mossy venture]

Do you know the model of psu?

[wispy wind]

its a bomb brand...

[mossy venture]

Mmmmm

What model

[plucky timber]

bomb brand?

[mossy venture]

Model>brand

[wispy wind]

thermsltake

[plucky timber]

not all thermaltakes are bad

some of them are really good

[mossy venture]

They have a lot of great psus and some bad ones

[wispy wind]

i was told they really bad lol

[plucky timber]

well

[mossy venture]

Gf1 gf a3 toughpower etc

[plucky timber]

they're just as bad as corsair

[mossy venture]

They've got like 5 or 6 great psus in recent memory

[wispy wind]

ah okay

[mossy venture]

What model is it

[plucky timber]

corsair had their cx greens as well

thermaltake just had more misses

[mossy venture]

You could send a picture or link if you're not sure

[mossy venture]

And cv

Cv sucked

Hell everyone loves evga, look at w1-3 and n1-3

[plucky timber]

yeah I saw people recommending them back in 2020

I was really skeptical

there's a reason they're cheaper than CX

[mossy venture]

And do you have an ssd for windows?

[wispy wind]

i dont know lol how can i tell?

[plucky timber]

send pic

[wispy wind]

yeah i just brought a brand new 22d so wont need a new 1 anytime soon )i hope)

[mossy venture]

Can you send a pic?

[mossy venture]

Cool, almost any ssd is fine so 👍

[wispy wind]

crap photo sorry

[plucky timber]

bomb

[wispy wind]

yeah....

[mossy venture]

Ooof

Hard no

[wispy wind]

hmmm

[mossy venture]

Like danger to your pc hard no

[plucky timber]

yeah that's a "replace as soon as possible" kind of bomb

[wispy wind]

really??

[plucky timber]

it's on F tier

ahahahahah

[wispy wind]

well thanks guys lol

[plucky timber]

yeah you'd definitely want a new psu before you get anything else

[mossy venture]

Cheapest that's ok (c tier)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/nNTZxr/corsair-cx-2023-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020278-na

B tier
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/qJpmP6/cooler-master-mwe-bronze-v2-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mpe-6501-acaab-us

Better b tier
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GwkWGX/asus-tuf-gaming-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-750b

A tier (best)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7k3NnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-atx-30-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfaga-h

A tier
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/PcLdnQ/cooler-master-mwe-gold-v2-atx30-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-8501-afaag-3

Descending in terms of price and quality

[wispy wind]

awesome thanks guys!

[mossy venture]

I'm gonna head to bed, I gotta be up in about 7 hours for work

[wispy wind]

If yall saying its that bad of a bomb ill change it 100% dont care about money ha

[mossy venture]

Happy to help!

[wispy wind]

have a good one!!

[mossy venture]

There's a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling for any psu questions tho

[wispy wind]

cheers!

[mossy venture]

Lite power is pretty old it might not be on there, but it's def not worth using

[plucky timber]

oh it is

F tier 💀

I thought they were mythical

never actually seen a f tier in the wild

[potent portal]

I've seen a F tier blown up in the wild

Took out the GPU with it

[plucky timber]

Only the gpu?

Must be a really good F tier

[jagged ember]

The timer ran out

[jagged ember]

terrorists win

Like CSGO

Sorry it's cs2 now

[little osprey]

LG 34GS95QE 34-inch Ultragear OLED Curved Gaming Monitor WQHD 800R 240Hz 0.03ms DisplayHDR True Black 400 AMD FreeSync Premium Pro NVIDIA G-Sync HDMI 2.1 DisplayPort Tilt/Height/Swivel Stand Black https://a.co/d/0RNCUe6

What are y'all's thoughts on this monitor? Any possible way of getting a less expensive monitor of the same - if not, better quality anywhere?

My rig:

R7 5800x3d
RTX 4070
32gb RAM (8x4)

[cyan ravine]

I think your gpu is gonna struggle

WQHD is hard enough at the flagship tier for 165hz let alone 240hz

4070 you could probably manipulate settings and use things like dlss 3 to overcome the bit bus hard capping that gpu's bandwidth, but the latency hit will ruin the fps gain

4070 is kneecapped by the bit bus, I would look at something less extreme

This is a pretty sweet spot for a lot of gpus rn
https://a.co/d/daXDO40

Very good value, often on sale sub $600

But even then, I beg the question if the 4070 will struggle with this too, due to the cheap bus width

Really ironic that although the 3080 12gb is very comparable to the 4070, that while it lacks the next-gen features like DLSS 3 or AV1 encode, it squashes the 4070 for available bandwidth and can run at much higher fps and resolution

That 34" you linked I would consider for a 4090

Rather than a 4070 lol

[potent portal]

Ultrawide 1440p is comparable to 4k when it comes to GPU load

So it's doable on a 4070 but only if you use DLSS performance

Which imo defeats the purpose

[cyan ravine]

Doable ye

But at 240hz I reckon the bus width will flatline it

Even the 4070 Ti would struggle with that 34" screen, same issue

Would probably get a lot closer to performant tho

[manic cloak]

Could anyone double check this for me?

Not mine, seller on Facebook

Pin looks like the 9 left, 9 up

[cyan ravine]

Ha

That's a heck of a doozy

[manic cloak]

The “best image I could have gotten” which seems to be a bent VDD_Misc?

[cyan ravine]

What's the description say

For the board

[manic cloak]

100 OBO everything is in good condition except for a bent pin on the MB. If you can micro solder or use for scrap parts that's up to you.

[cyan ravine]

So it absolutely doesn't post

[manic cloak]

At that point I’d let a surgeon just take care of it

[cyan ravine]

Yeah you'd grab that if you felt crazy about the gamble

[manic cloak]

That’s a good question he has yet to answer

[frigid night]

Might be worth a shot to buy it for that price and see if anyone here would be willing to fix it for you.

[cyan ravine]

His description confesses it without saying it

[manic cloak]

😭