storage-devices

[plucky stone]

But still, the BIOS recognizes my SSD perfectly. Trouble only begins the moment I boot up the Windows installer

I've connected a BarraCuda HDD with the same cables as the SSD and everything went fine, the installer recognized the driver immediately.

[coarse basin]

is wd blues m.2 nvme ssd slow?

cus people have been yelling at me so now im getting a samsung 970 evo

[rustic mirage]

I have the 1tb we blue, sure it's not as fast as an evo, but it's still better than mechanical

[opaque flare]

i have 2 nvme ssd, 970 evo and a silicone power A80, but only 1 nvme heatsink on my mobo. if i put my 970 evo under the heatsink, will the silicone power run cool enough that i dont have thermal throttling? i will only play games with the silicone power

[minor sun]

@opaque flare Neither need a heatsink.

[opaque flare]

ok

[zealous bramble]

No, that drive is plenty fast, the SN550 NVME/PCIe version at least

[minor sun]

SN550 is dramless

and without HMB

not a good SSD

SN750 is good

[zealous bramble]

Is it really noticeable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJLbyHG0Rfw

[minor sun]

if you want the drive to die

dram/hmb is great

dramless drives has to use it's own flash to store locations, and that being accessed so frequently deteriorates the drive's speeds

[zealous bramble]

I'm skeptical of that claim

Do you have any sources?

[minor sun]

I have a team MS30

that's where my claims come from

I can link you how dramless drives work

a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybIXsrLCgdM

[zealous bramble]

I still don't see how this would deteriorate a SSD

AFAIK SSD's have unlimited reads

[minor sun]

uh

brb then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtBysgPOKx4

there's the explanation of how the SSD works

it doesn't magically just read and write stuff

[void dust]

what's the difference

https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-blue-2tb/p/N82E16820250093?Item=N82E16820250093&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-250-093-_-11252020

and

https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-blue-2tb/p/N82E16820250089?Item=N82E16820250089&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-250-089-_-11252020

can both be used on a desktop?

[minor sun]

One is M.2, one is 2.5in

[void dust]

is that just the size

oh the m.2 is faster

cause it fits on motherboard I guess

[rough dagger]

No wires just pure traces

[minor sun]

@void dust both are the same speed

both are SATA Drives

some M.2 drives are NVMe, and therefore a lot faster

but in this case, both are SATA drives

a 2.5in SATA drive and a M.2 SATA drive, the only difference here is the form factor

if you can get a M.2 drive, I'd get a 2tb NVMe drives instead

[void dust]

ah ic

I cant afford

I'm.going for whatever is cheaper

they are both going on sale tomorrow

the ones Iinked

[cerulean depot]

Check this out on @Newegg: XPG SX8100 Series: 1TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280, 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive https://www.newegg.com/xpg-sx8100-1tb/p/0D9-0017-001A1?Item=9SIAJNUA6Y3522&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAJNUA6Y3522-_-11252020 good drive?

[minor sun]

It's actually decent

[coarse basin]

i knew i was right and that pizza cat was wrong

[minor sun]

what

dunno if that was the point but okay

[scenic iron]

I have a seagate external hdd. I need a power supply that can do the following: 12 Volts

3 Amps

Mono Pin 5.5mm x 2.5mm

Polarity: Center Positive

where can I find this? thanks for the help

[rancid pike]

out of these, which would be the best, the p2 or should i just spend the extra $15 for the sn750?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&i=85&D=1&A=400000000000,18000000000000&sort=price&page=1

i dont know if a link like that works

if it doesnt set the country to canada, thats what i have it set to soo...

[minor sun]

I'd get sn750

Ca.pcpartpicker.com as the website gives you Canada

[midnight coral]

^^^^^

[abstract parcel]

https://twitter.com/Newegg/status/1331815408735715329?s=19

Newegg (@Newegg)

SSD deals

1TB @IntelGaming 665p M.2
$82.99 now: https://t.co/7pStAoEh0C

1TB @SamsungUS 860 EVO 2.5"
$99.99 now: https://t.co/6Bkhj4OcSm

1TB @wd_black SN750 M.2
$115.99 on 11/26: https://t.co/NQvBZoBlpp

2TB @CrucialMemory P1 M.2
$179.99 on 11/26: https://t.co/aG8VSj52gf

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Twitter · Nov 26, 2020, 4:21 AM

@rancid pike

possible check tomorrow for a lower cost im staying up til my midnight to see if it goes live

[red jay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yw7cxc storage looks okay on mine

i have to buy my psu today cuz i ownt get it this cheap again if i wait vs bronze i was ganna get same price, im takin it xd

[dry viper]

happy thanksgiving love you all 🥰

[mild cipher]

I want to buy a new secondary hdd. I have a few small ssds for os/some games, and am also targeting a new 1tb ssd. I was originally thinking about a 2tb hdd, probably seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm (~$50). Then I thought about getting 3/4tb. If I go 4tb w/ seagate, it's $80 but 5400rpm. If I go WD black, its $125. Recommendations? I would prefer a 7200rpm but idk if 5400rpm would really be that detrimental for my use (document/media storage, some large games). Cost is somewhat of a concern.

[red jay]

@mild cipher watch our the barracuda 2tb 7200 rpm is hdd

[mild cipher]

???

[mild cipher]

i know it's an hdd. did you read?

[red jay]

oh

woops xd

[mild cipher]

lmao

[red jay]

i was talkn to my friend earlier today about his ssd vs the hdd

he told me the hdd was pretty noisey and i remember that

now the computer is so silent

its like o.O

[fossil magnet]

hello everyone I need to change the HDD to SSD in a hp pavilion dv6 6033cl. Does anyone know wich one will fit ? I will appreciate for any advise

[abstract parcel]

665p thoughts?

[rancid pike]

based on what ive heard from other previously, no

[torpid adder]

Looks like an okay drive

Never looked at it on the SSD spreadsheet before

[abstract parcel]

Yo didn't know there was a spreadsheet

I need to look at pinned more frequently

[heady raven]

QLC

so, unless it is silly cheap, dont buy @abstract parcel

[torpid adder]

QLC can be fine, but yeah I'd rather TLC

Pins are really nice, a lot of people would benefit from reading them more often including myself 😅

Crucial P1, MP34, SX8200 Pro, SN750 are all good drives

[rancid pike]

what i dont understand is why the ltt psu cultists link isnt posted in #cases-psu-and-cooling but is in #building-and-recc-chat

;-;

[abstract parcel]

@heady raven qlc?

[rancid pike]

theres different types of NVME storage

QLC and TLC being 2 of them

[abstract parcel]

Ahh

I got the sn750 for 115 off wd

[rancid pike]

tlc i believe being slightly slower, but lasting longer

[abstract parcel]

And returning the same one I got from Amazon for 134

[rancid pike]

or something along those lines

and qlc being vice versa

[short pawn]

is there a reason why this is so cheap
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-1tb-internal-pci-express-3-0-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive/6402020.p?skuId=6402020

[wet sequoia]

Jeez I’m in 2020 with a 75gb hdd

[short pawn]

should i just switch because savings
from
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-st2000dm008-2tb/p/N82E16822184773
to
https://www.newegg.com/black-wd4005fzbx-4tb/p/234-000G-000W6

[torpid adder]

@rancid pike NAND flash that has fewer bits per cell last longer, and they are faster, than NAND flash with more bits per cell

[rancid pike]

yea, thats what i remember from my brief look into the differences

[torpid adder]

They are more expensive, is the caveat

[torpid adder]

@fossil magnet a simple 2.5" SSD will do, I suggest WD Blue 3D, either 500GB or 1TB, as it is a good performance drive at a good price at those capacites

I have a DV6-6C43CL in front of me right now, essentially the same laptop chassis and layout with probably internal hardware differences

[zenith prawn]

Is a 1TB nvme enough for gaming and streaming?

[ornate canopy]

its better if you have a boot ssd then an hdd for all your other stuff

[craggy mauve]

it also depends wildly on what it is you're gaming and streaming

having fast load times for most games doesnt matter that much

unless its like, rimworld or cortex command, or any other 30000 tiny files sort of games

like insanity mentioned though having your OS installed on it will make the largest performance difference since your page file would have better read/write speeds

some motherboards also have a feature that you can rig up an ssd with a hard drive so it will automatically put more often used files on the ssd and everything else on the hard drive

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi which is basically what a lot of datacenters do

[slow ledge]

will the WD black sn850 ssd ever go on sale on newegg?

[fervent crane]

Hi are there usually psu issues if you add another ssd? I’m thinking if adding additional drives will require me to upgrade psu

Sorry I really don’t know

[hollow sphinx]

@fervent crane if it's a 2.5" SSD you'll need to make sure you have enough SATA power cables (usually not an issue barring extreme cases)

if it's an M.2 SSD then unlikely

they only draw a few watts

so it's really not likely you're already riding that close to the limit

[true apex]

Hello! I am looking into expanding the storage of my computer and unsure of what is "good" while looking into it. I just purchased a MSI Leopard GL75 and know that it has a NVMe M.2. (My first time handling a SSD, so excuse the lack of knowledge)

[red jay]

NVMe M.2 is a very fast SSD that is directly installed in your motherboard

other than that, i have never heard of MSI SSDs, don’t know if they’re any good but certainly hope they are since you already purchased one

best of luck 🙂

[true apex]

Thank you. I am trying to understand what am I looking for spec wise. I am seeing speed. What is a great speed to go with?

[fervent crane]

Thank you!

[hollow sphinx]

@red jay that's a laptop

@true apex what's your budget

[red jay]

Ah, I see. Well anyways, the SSD shouldn’t be too bad i believe

[true apex]

@hollow sphinx Anywhere between 100-250

[fervent crane]

Anyone knows where the other m2 drive is on this motherboard? I only see one

[red jay]

how much storage would you need though ?

[hollow sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101

1TB enough?

[fervent crane]

Oh I can’t post picture

[true apex]

1TB but depending on the price, pushing for 2TB

[red jay]

i think rookies can’t post pictures

[fervent crane]

It’s a MSI Z490-A Pro board.

Ohh that makes sense

[red jay]

you should check your motherboard’s manual

[fervent crane]

Hmm ok let me do that

[red jay]

normally it should tell you where the M.2 slots are at

[hollow sphinx]

@true apex https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kQZzK8/adata-xpg-sx8200-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-2tt-c

[red jay]

you could check online too

[hollow sphinx]

$200 2TB nvme drive

[true apex]

Thanks so much!!

[fervent crane]

Oh wow found it

[hollow sphinx]

got good speeds and dram cache so nothing to worry about in that regard

[fervent crane]

Yup it was so much easier looking at the Manual lol , I was trying to google ot

*it

[red jay]

glad you found it ☺️

i believe the slots are indicated on your motherboard’s official site too, at least that was the case for mine

[fervent crane]

It was so simple to look at Manuel, like they point it out, it’s below my gpu on the board I have.

[hollow sphinx]

did Manuel ask to be looked at?

👀

[fervent crane]

Lmao

Oh wait

Yeah spelled that wrong

Manual*

[hollow sphinx]

it's okay, i'm sure Manuel understands

[fervent crane]

Manuel probably has a better chance of knowing the location than I did.

[hollow sphinx]

[spring turret]

Hey all, I have motherboard ASRock b450m/ac; i want to buy a new SSD but i don't know which is compatible. Can anyone point me in the right direction? It came with a 512 ssd and i'd like to add a 2tb in addition

[rough dagger]

Well is it sata or m.2?

[spring turret]

how do i tell?

[minor sun]

@rough dagger you know there are M.2 SATA SSDs right

@spring turret What the the drive look like? A flat stick or like a 2.5in drive?

[spring turret]

Trying to attach a picture but can't see where to do that. i honestly can't tell. it's packaged nicely so the graphics card and ssd are on top of each other (unless i simply don't know what i'm looking at and i'm only looking at graphics card)

just dmed you

[rancid pike]

i got an SN750 500gb for 79.99 yesterday

79.99 cad

which is..

$61 usd

[spring turret]

tanks all! mr 1111 set me straight

[brave saddle]

Is TEAM GROUP GX2 DRAM-less?

[cerulean depot]

Any good SSD deals rn?

[brave saddle]

860 Evo 2.5" $99, nice upgrade for PS4

Which the bot just posted lol... bought it an hour ago

[minor sun]

@brave saddle gx2 is dramless for sure

[mossy token]

hola

[woven carbon]

hi i need help

[heady raven]

@woven carbon then please state your question/problem, and people will decide if they have the knowledge to help you.

[woven carbon]

Ita all good i figured it out

[warm oasis]

yo

guuys

is this a good deal?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BN4NJ2J/ref=twister_B08KGF1DPF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[red jay]

yes

[warm oasis]

thx

[red jay]

it is about $10 off. the normal price is $70

[fallen shale]

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-1tb/p/N82E16820147691

v

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110?Item=N82E16820250110&quicklink=true

which one should i get out of the two

[minor sun]

SN750

cheaper, same quality, better write speeds

[sly finch]

will ssd give you more fps than harddrive

[fallen shale]

ty comrade

[latent barn]

Storage doesnt affect performance

Just better load times

[heady raven]

quite wrong @latent barn, there are cases where it does effect FPS

[latent barn]

Welp

[heady raven]

you can look at it like this: there are no performance downsides to a ssd vs a hdd.

there is a price downside

and a capacity downside

but not performance

(on the consumer side of things)

[sharp merlin]

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250135?&quicklink=true

Check PC Part Picker, there was a sale where it was $90

[rancid pike]

how tf is ctrl already vip

;-;

i cant even get to lvl 20 lul

[red jay]

i can’t even get to level 10 lul

[solemn jolt]

Are these Samsung EVO M2s with V-NAND superior to other M2 SSDs because of the cache?

[minor sun]

Uh, no?

V Nand is just marketing afaik

No real performance gains over conventional

[heady raven]

there IS a performance difference @minor sun

in that V-nand is faster

but its normally mitigated by the way that other vendors just stack more cells

[minor sun]

@heady raven hm, well, there's no performance difference in the results between evo and other drives

[heady raven]

aye aye

because of the mitigation i mentioned above :)

if you go back and look at some of the early reviews of the drives that first used V-nand, especially at low capacity, you will see some interesting numbers @minor sun

yes, samsung drives are NOT cheap

but they got the rep they have for a reason

their early drives had silly good performance

[minor sun]

Huh okay

[solemn jolt]

They seem to be the only ones on the market with a 1gb cache but can’t find a lot of literature about how this affects performance

[short pawn]

good deal?
https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110?Item=N82E16820250110&quicklink=true

[heady raven]

dont feel bad that you dont know about it, its ancient history by now @minor sun :)

[minor sun]

@solemn jolt either way, in the end, performance wise, 970evo is around the same as other decent pcie 3.0 drives

Fair enough

Like the SN750 linked there will outperform the 970 evo by a bit

@short pawn 116$ pretty nice for a sn750

[summer osprey]

@short pawn Thats the lowest current & historical price for that model: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QQrmP6/western-digital-sn750-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds100t3x0c

[short pawn]

so yes

[minor sun]

Yes, it's a pretty nice deal.

[short pawn]

awesome ty

[brisk dome]

860 EVO 1tb is $100 and MX 500 1tb is $95 👀

although nvme prices have gone down so much idk if sata are really worth it rn

[cold lily]

is raid through the bios any faster than microsoft storage pool? ive always wanted to change my 3 sata ssds to be in a hardware controlled raid array rather than a software controlled one. (using amd mobo, and i basically know how to get the raid drivers installed)

[minor sun]

Windows raid tend to be one of the best performing raid implementations

[gloomy fern]

I just got a new m.2 drive and installed it in addition to my SSD that has windows and everything installed already. Went to turn on pc and all i get is a black screen, absolutely nothing, not even the bios screen pops up for me to enter. Any help?

[sonic river]

So, maybe I'm just blind but

Samsung (MZ-V7E1T0BW) 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology, Black/Red

Samsung (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM) 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology

These look identical

[minor sun]

Evo and evo plus

[sonic river]

AHH

I'm just blind lol

I'm like "why is this one $20 more?"

[weary oar]

I need a good m.2 ssd for under 50 dollars, anby suggestions?

[minor sun]

P1 500gb should be 50$ flat

[weary oar]

ahem

under 60

50*

and it's 60 dollars on newegg

[minor sun]

@weary oar sorry, P2 was the one

Not p1

[weary oar]

oh

[paper mulch]

So I bought a Samsung 970 evo m.2 and I installed it in my system, but its not showing up anywhere in disk management

[heady raven]

scroll down

[paper mulch]

Also, does it have to be screwed down in order for it to work?

[heady raven]

yes, the stand has to be in the right place, the ssd placed on top and then screwed in

[paper mulch]

Oh okay, I'm sad because it didn't come with a screw or standoff

[heady raven]

thats supplied by your mainboard

so, by your supplied info: " I installed it in my system," <- that is not true then

[paper mulch]

Well I put it in the motherboard right but I didn't know it would've had to have be actually screwed it

Like how you don't need to screw in fans for them to work, you know?

[heady raven]

except, you do. because fans are screwed INTO the case

just because you didnt do, does not mean it does not need a screw :)

[paper mulch]

I'm just saying, fans can be taped into a case and still work fine, I didn't know that a screw was necessary for a m.2, ill just order some screws and wait for those

[heady raven]

check your mainboard box

[paper mulch]

Don't have it, upgrading the system

[rancid pike]

Man, the SN750 just looks nice, haven’t installed it yet because I still don’t have a mobo, but it’s a shmexy drive

[woven sand]

hello, i was wondering if anyone kow of a sas card i can use in windows 10 pc to read sasdrives to wipe them. i found this one but not sure if it will do what neen. Item#: 9SIANDTBA56997

[half quest]

how do i move windows from my hard drive to my new ssd

[woven sand]

@half quest most new ssd's come with software that moves it for you or might be able to find it on the manufacturers website

[heady raven]

@half quest macrium reflect. the free version can do it. you will need to make a rescue media usb stick from inside of that program and then boot from it

[patent zealot]

Should i get the samsung 2tb 860 evo its $100

on sale

[ivory peak]

2tb for 100 is good

[pallid tusk]

That’s good yeah

[patent zealot]

i mean 1tb

sorry

i mean 1tb

it was $50 off

[ivory peak]

oh nvm maybe a crucial p1 or sum would be good

[patent zealot]

i dont really want 2 m.2s

[ivory peak]

oh

[patent zealot]

just a 2.5 inch i can throw in the back

of my case

[ivory peak]

yeah then its good i guess

[pallid tusk]

2.5” is stinky poopoo

[patent zealot]

im using it to throw my steam games on

because i have all my steam games on a 2tb barracuda

right now

plus my main ssd is almost full

hmm

actually i could do 2 samsungs 500gigs in raid

[ivory peak]

2.5" is overpriced lol

[patent zealot]

well i want something cheap 1tb and has dram

[hallow spade]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=22-184-796%2C22-179-003
whats the difference between these except for the price?

[upper quiver]

no real difference

the more expensive one is basically the same product listed under a new SKU

its a difference in formatting and internal disk count

[hallow spade]

what does that mean?

@upper quiver

[upper quiver]

it means the differences dont really matter for your purposes

[hallow spade]

what does difference in formatting and internal disk count mean?

[hallow spade]

zies

[upper quiver]

the 0022 has 6 disks inside, the 004 has 7

so the internal speed of the 004 would technically be faster

[hallow spade]

huh

[upper quiver]

and disks are divided up into sectors, so the drives store data differently

[hallow spade]

so the 22 would be technically better?

[upper quiver]

not really

the 004 is the newer variant, and has an extra disk, but that wont make a huge difference

[hallow spade]

oh ehck

ah

wait but it is the older one?

[upper quiver]

004 is the more expensive, newer one

0022 is the old one from 2016

[hallow spade]

so what you are saying is that it wouldnt matter if i got either one

[upper quiver]

wouldnt matter at all

[hallow spade]

cool

thanks

[tacit halo]

Any 1TB ssds on sale and in stock? Looking for one for my brother

[minor sun]

for what

[tacit halo]

I’ll have to grab his specs but it’s a pretty old setup he just wants a boost in speed with boot up and load times. After I got mine he decided he wants one too I’m just not too good at finding good deals lol

[minor sun]

@shrewd vector gx2 is trash

dramless

and I'd wait to see what they can support first

[untold grove]

the qvo looks like the best bet there

the qvo has super low tbw though

only 360 lol

[minor sun]

I mean

I don't want to give them things and find out it's a laptop with only a m.2 slot free

[untold grove]

true lol

[minor sun]

or like only space for like a PATA drive left

or smth weird

I'd wait to see situation first

[untold grove]

i have these in my servers as cache drives and theyre great https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SNHB4RC

[minor sun]

yea S31 is good, but pricing is meh

I mean

M.2 on laptop is very much standard

[untold grove]

yeah they used to be really good deals

[minor sun]

S31 500gb was really good

it was like 40$

[untold grove]

yeah for a while i had 20 of those running in an array

the 500gb

i mean now theyre around 55

[minor sun]

I also rather get a NVMe drive rather than SATA whenever possible

[untold grove]

well duh

[minor sun]

but anyways

p1 had a really good deal a while back

like 80$ for 1tb

[untold grove]

m.2 sata masterrace

i used to

ended up using them as cache drives

or for vms

fair

you get 2tb or 4tb?

ooooh nice

yeah i ended up getting a bunch of seagate nvme drives

put them in my vm server

they work great but theyre slow for nvme

like 2gb/s read and 1gb/s write

in fact more like 1.5

for read

true

theyre enterprise drives and the speed is good enough considering the tbw on them

i hate their hdds

out of every brand ive used theyve failed on me the most

staying up at 5am babysitting an array rebuilding is literally my least favorite thing to do

now to be fair, i know some people that just cant stand wd drives cause the opposite is true for them

but personally i really dont like seagate hdds

most ppl here dont do what i do though

and if u just need a 2tb game drive then why not

yeah

theyre fine

[minor sun]

Back blaze's drive failure rates by brand for fun

[untold grove]

yep

[minor sun]

I think they stopped using WD drives or something that's why WDC doesn't continue after Q1 2019

[untold grove]

to be fair backblaze also sometimes uses consumer drives

[minor sun]

They do

[untold grove]

for cost saving

[minor sun]

like the horrible 3tb barracuda

[untold grove]

lmao

[minor sun]

like 80% of them failed on them

[untold grove]

that drive was so funny

fun fact

[minor sun]

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/3tb-hard-drive-failure/

[untold grove]

i had one

and 2 warranty replacements failed on me

so my experience with that drive was like

[minor sun]

but anyways HGST seems to be the best

[untold grove]

insane

i think its still in a seedbox

yep

[minor sun]

But Seagate also has some good drives in terms of drive failure rates

[untold grove]

every brand has good and bad drives

[minor sun]

mhm

Seagate is just in the middle

[untold grove]

my arrays are around 80% hgst and 20% WD

tbh i would never tell anyone to seek out a seagate drive is my thing

if a good deal lands in your lap

then theyre alright for sure

but if someone is asking for like

cheap 10tb or smth

easystore all the way

[zenith prawn]

is the sn750 better than the mp34? the sn750 is 10$ more and I was wondering if it’s a good deal

[minor sun]

mhm

[zenith prawn]

thank you!

also, am I fine with just the 1TB sn750 or do I need a separate ssd too?

[minor sun]

1tb SN750 is good.

[zenith prawn]

okie

[tiny cypress]

Would the SN750 SSD be compatible with this motherboard that I have? Mine is "Gigabyte 970A-D3P"

[minor sun]

@tiny cypress Doesn't look like there's a M.2 slot on that mobo

You'll prob have a better time with a 2.5in SATA drive

[torpid adder]

I like the WD Blue 3D 2.5" SSD

https://tenor.com/view/computer-ssd-stay-hydrated-gaming-gif-19172549

Good drive

[red jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262900854510714881/782785875053903882/degenerates.mp4

people participating in #storage-devices channel:

[halcyon pulsar]

New SSDs are arriving today and I am nervous, is it normal to feel nervous? I never installed an M.2 drive before

[red jay]

you shouldn't be haha, it's easy to install don't worry

[ember cedar]

yea m.2 is the easiest imo

[latent barn]

Is tlc bad

Also, any recommendations for a 2tb ssd?

Max is 400

[noble atlas]

tlc is the best

[pliant yoke]

Do you guys have any good 2tb ssd

[tidal fractal]

if you wanna go overkill you can do two 980 pro's

[heady raven]

@noble atlas tlc is the better commercially available flash nand. at this point in time.

[red jay]

That ssd is a little slower than the 970 evo but I recommend it

[heady raven]

both slc and mlc are technically better nand types

[kind saddle]

what is thebest 1tb m.2 ssd to buy right now?

[minor sun]

@kind saddle what budget

[kind saddle]

up to like $100

give or take like 10

[minor sun]

Mp34 1tb

[kind saddle]

hows the 665p?

[minor sun]

Mp34

[kind saddle]

ok lol

ty

[minor sun]

665p is slower

Might be qlc too

[kind saddle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101

this one correct?

[latent barn]

Mr1111 whats a 2tb nvme ssd recommendation

And yes it is correct sean

[kind saddle]

ok thanks

[minor sun]

@latent barn evo plus was actually at a good price, 250$ for 2tb, might still be there

If not, sabrent rocket usually

[latent barn]

ok

They should pin this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit

[minor sun]

It's pinned lmao

[latent barn]

oh

didnt see that

[fallen mulch]

I'm looking at slapping 2 NVMe drives in my new rig.

Thinking of the WD Black SN750 for both

probably 1TB each

[fallen mulch]

Is WD a good bet?

[minor sun]

SN750 good

SN550 no

WD blue no

[summer osprey]

Whats the difference between ADATA SX8200 Pro and Samsung 970 EVO Pro, aside from 970 having encryption & MLC?

[crisp ibex]

I own the ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Motherboard and having issues with the M.2 drive not being picked in in windows even in Disk Management and have tried messing with the bios where it picks it up there but not in windows.

[summer osprey]

Update or reinstall mobo related drivers?

[crisp ibex]

Tried that like 10 times haha.

Redownloaded Windows four times too.

[summer osprey]

Also, are there any SATA cables plugged in where NVME pulls/disables from?

[crisp ibex]

Flashed bios 5 versions

[summer osprey]

Tried all the diff m.2 slots on the mobo I assume?

[crisp ibex]

Also, are there any SATA cables plugged in where NVME pulls/disables from? Wouldn't it being picked up in the bios mean it works and all cables connected?

[summer osprey]

Just be aware that with some mobos, it says when an nvme slot is used, then certain SATA ports will be disabled.

Im just saying that if thats true and you have something in the certain disabled SATA ports, I would expect weirdness

If none of that is applicable, sounds like a possibly dead drive. Doesnt take much for BIOS to ID your drive

[crisp ibex]

I guess I'll try for a couple more days and if nothing I'll return it.

[red jay]

Is this a good ssd? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SK5BNM1/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabt1_T2WXFbRKQ76RD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[summer osprey]

Awesome for laptops because of energy savings

SATA SSDs will be limited in speeds compared to NVME, but will be negligible in current games until directstorage is implemented in games

[heady raven]

you are aware that the controller on the sx Pro has changed right?

[summer osprey]

Changed from what?

I'm aware that something like the 970 Evo Plus may have a better controller, but that may cost more which may not be desireable for a laptop

[heady raven]

the sx8200 pro changed its controller from the good one it had before, to something less good now

and there is no way aside from having it in your hand to tell which is which

[summer osprey]

I wonder if the good one was from SK Hynix? If so, should just grab their own latest nvme 1 GB drive instead

[untold grove]

if youre talking about the hynix gold ssd, its like $10 less than the evo plus right now. Personally id go for the samsung drive

[minor sun]

@summer osprey both controllers are from SMI, the SM2262EN to SM2262G

[olive obsidian]

hey y'all can anyone answer a question about m.2?

[upper quiver]

if you would actually ask your question, then maybe

[olive obsidian]

well at least your name is accurate

i just got an m.2 stick and installed it but i also have an hdd and a sata SSD installed already. my bios recognizes the m.2 now but no longer recognizes the sata unless i take the m.2 back out so it doesn't recognize both at the same time

is it possible my motherboard just can't recognize 3 drives at the same time?

[upper quiver]

depends on your board

some SATA ports only function when no M.2 is present due to bandwidth limitations

i assume you put the M.2 ssd in the top slot nearest the CPU?

[olive obsidian]

i put it in the bottom one, my graphics card is actually covering the top one so i didnt know that was there until today

it seems like the top one is bigger though, would it still fit in either one?

[upper quiver]

when you use the lower slots, the chipset will typically disable sata ports

if you want to leave the ssd on the chipset thats fine, but look in your motherboard manual for the sata ports that dont share bandwidth with that M.2 slot

imo, it would be best to remove the gpu, put the ssd in the top slot, then reinstall the gpu

[olive obsidian]

my bottom one is 80 and the top one is 110 but i bought an 80, will it still fit in the top one even though its a different size?

[upper quiver]

yep

the m.2 standoff is typically preinstalled to fit 80mm ssds

if its not its easy to move

[olive obsidian]

ok i think i understand now! thank you i will try it out tonight

[acoustic yew]

patriot burst 240gb ssd any good?

MLC with 32mb dram cache so I'm eyeing it

[opal bobcat]

I am trying to swap a 500gb sk hynix gold ssd into a laptop that had a 500gb hdd. At first I used minitool partition wizard (as I usually do, this is my fourth time doing this). When I tried to boot from the ssd I got a black screen with the capital letter J in the top left corner. I am assuming that this has something to do with drive partitions but I'm not a pro with this stuff. Does anybody know what is going on here or possibly how to fix it? This is the laptop - htt ps://www.cnet.com/products/hp-g72-260us-17-3-core-i3-350m-windows-7-home-premium-64-bit-4-gb-ram-320-gb-hdd-series/ (the link is split in the https bc you can't send the link in this channel)

[red jay]

That's a dilemma

[opal bobcat]

Please explain

[red jay]

Man how do you even switch out parts in a laptop

[opal bobcat]

Well old laptops like this one are super easy. They have access panels on the bottom. Newer ones you have to look up a video. They are compact and usually require you to take the keyboard off or something of the sorts.

[red jay]

Sounds like a royal pain

I'll stick with the big open pcs thank you

[opal bobcat]

Me too

This is someone else's laptop

But I've never had an issue like this b4

[coarse basin]

so is the 30 bux worth it between the wd blue 1tb ssd and the samsung 970 evo?

[untold grove]

yes

wd blue ssd is meh

and @opal bobcat try clonezilla?

[uneven marsh]

So for a asus b550 gaming pro there are two m.2 drives, bottom one with a heat sink. What is the difference between which one to install on?

[heady raven]

top one is pci-e 4.0

bottom is pci-e 3.0 iirc

[uneven marsh]

If the ssd is only pci 3.0 should I install on the bottom one since it has a heat sink

[heady raven]

it really does not matter for 99.99999 of ssd's

[opal bobcat]

I eventually gave up on minitool and restarted completely. I tried to use sk hynix software on the laptop but the usb to sata cable kept the software from identifying the drive as sk hynix. I figured sata was required. My good pc has an m.2 so I have 2 extra sata cables, so I plugged in the hdd and ssd into my pc via sata and the sk hynix software was able to recognize it. Thankfully the sk hynix software worked flawlessly and it booted right up. Note to self and anyone else doing an ssd swap on windows 7, minitool will not work. For QUICKER and BETTER results buy an sk hynix or samsung that comes with software, and hook it up to a desktop via sata.

[fervent crane]

Hi Everyone I’m trying to install a Sabrent m2 drive with the heatsink it comes with

However the bottom part of the headsink makes the screw to short to screw into the motherboard

Would it be wrong to just put this thermal pad on the bottom?or just I just leave the bottom without a thermal pad ?

The metal part on the bottom makes the screw not go all the way through so I can’t use it.

[opal bobcat]

I believe there should be a different post that came with the motherboard that allows the screw to reach, although I'm not 100% sure exactly what issue you are having.

[fervent crane]

Sorry I’m having Difficulties explaining my problem.

[minor sun]

Maybe the manual will help

Might be useful to mark on the image where exactly you're talking about

[fervent crane]

One second

[opal bobcat]

Yeah definitely check the manual

Also I feel like that metal bit below it is on backwards, it looks like it should be facing up

[fervent crane]

Il mark it

It’s hard to see one second, thank you .

[opal bobcat]

That will help

[fervent crane]

The head sink has a bottom tray, which is how it’s suppose to be used as far as the manual states. However this bottom tray causes the M2 drive to be lifted... and the screws cannot reach the motherboard.

So I’m thinking what if I don’t use the tray.

[opal bobcat]

Somethings not right, mind if i give you a call?

[fervent crane]

And I’ll send another pick of what I’m thinking

Sure

[minor sun]

Ohhh

@fervent crane check the m.2 standoff that's usually pre-installed

[opal bobcat]

I looked and its actually a manufacturer problem. The sabrent rocket has a bottom cooling plate with a little lip around the screw hole. The lip prevents the screw from making it to the mobo. Even with a taller standoff, the screw won't be long enough to go through the drive and the metal lip. I told him to just install it without the bottom cooling plate because you don't really need to cool your ssd. Plus he still has the heatsink on the top half which will help a lot.

[minor sun]

uh

@opal bobcat I'm talking about the bit on the motherboard

not the screw

lel

[opal bobcat]

His motherboard has standoffs already

[minor sun]

ye

I mean to take it off

oh well, bottom plate is optional either way

[opal bobcat]

why take it off?

that would make the problem worse

[minor sun]

hm? afaik it's too high

and the screw can't reach

so the bottom 'tray' was a replacement to elevate the ssd instead of the bit on the mobo

that was my theory

[opal bobcat]

No it definitely isn't too high

they were relatively low standoffs

[minor sun]

I'm misunderstanding the issue then

what was the issue?

[opal bobcat]

There is a little metal lip on the bottom plate around that screw hole for the drive.

[gray fulcrum]

Is it worth the extra money to get an nvme ssd over a sata 2.5 ssd?

[minor sun]

Did the screw go through the bottom plate?

[opal bobcat]

It's thickness prevented the screw from reaching the standoffs

no

thats the issue

and because of that lip, the bottom of the ssd wasn't even touching the thermal pad

[opal bobcat]

It depends

I have a sata one because a sata ssd is plenty fast for me

but if you really want the fastest of the fastest, nvme is the option

[gray fulcrum]

I have a 1tb 2.5 but it is dying it is held together by tape

And I noticed the price difference is quite a bit for the same storage amount

[opal bobcat]

Personally, I would just go sata m.2

[gray fulcrum]

Thanks for your help

[opal bobcat]

np

[minor sun]

This is how I saw it, Orange being top heatsink, Blue being SSD, Red being bottom tray, black being screw, and white being mobo standoff bit

welp

if it works without bottom, it should be fine

[opal bobcat]

orange wasn't there, just blue and red

but imagine red extra thick

[minor sun]

what

[opal bobcat]

the bottom plate

[minor sun]

Orange is the top heatsink

that's already attached

[opal bobcat]

the top heatsink doesn't affect the screw hole

there is no issue with the top heatsink, it is out of the equation

[minor sun]

huh, looked like it had to go through the side, oh well

[fervent crane]

Thanks laid off for the help

I just removed the entire heat sink, bottom and top .

I took top heat sink off because it wasn’t screwed into anything, once I remove bottom tray.

[opal bobcat]

gotcha

[fervent crane]

Should be good ?

Thanks laid off for the time u took.

[opal bobcat]

um I think the thing you screwed it in with is a mobo standoff for an m.2 drive

[minor sun]

Oh you have the rocket 4? Might want to keep top side heatsink on since the controller might run hot

[opal bobcat]

He can't get it on bc of the design flaw with the bottom plate

[minor sun]

@fervent crane Looking at the manual, how does it look if you put it back into the heatsink?

On the bottom

[opal bobcat]

That's how it should look

[minor sun]

yea I'm wondering how their's look

[opal bobcat]

he showed me his and the bottom plate is bent up around the screw hole

you can sorta see it in this pic

right where he circled

[minor sun]

but

btw that protector thing needs to come off

I can't really tell from that pic

[opal bobcat]

Trust me, he's got the order correct

there is a manufacturer defect

[minor sun]

yea I just don't really have a good pic of it

So I dunno

[opal bobcat]

just trust me, I called him and had him turn on his video. The bottom plate is just messed up

I also looked around online and found others with the same issue

[minor sun]

if you've seen it on video then alright

I just can't tell from the pic

[fervent crane]

So the issue was I didn’t know a stand-off goes under the drive

And if you told me, I would of understood because I’m thinking , a stand-off would only make the drive more elevated

Didn’t realize screws go into standoffs

[minor sun]

@fervent crane so, what now, were you able to get the heatsink on correctly, and if not, how's the temps on the controller looking?

[fervent crane]

Yup, we were able to get the heat sink and drive installed.

I have no idea about temperature yet.

[opal bobcat]

turns out there is a manufacturer defect problem, but we weren't exposed to it. He was trying to use the standoff as the ssd screw

[heady raven]

which is what Mr1111 asked about earlier

[fervent crane]

I think everyone may have recommended it. But it’s that I couldn’t understand naed

[opal bobcat]

From what I could see there were standoffs, I had him run his fingers over them to confirm that they were raised but I didn't think to ask about what extent they were raised to

[minor sun]

@fervent crane Try Crystal disk info, it'll give you temps, but don't put too much faith in read and writes being accurate....

[fervent crane]

It’s really because I didn’t understand what standoffs were.

Ok thanks mr

[minor sun]

It's alright, I didn't explain well enough.

You did peel the protective layer off the thermal pads, correct?

[fervent crane]

Yup thanks

[heady raven]

aye aye, i see and i understand that @fervent crane :) as long as you have it fixed now, that is all that matters for that particular part :)

[opal bobcat]

I told him about the pads

[minor sun]

ya, on top and bottom thermal pads

[fervent crane]

Yup thank you .

[upbeat forge]

So I have a 500gb hdd and a 500gb ssd. I want to put the OS on the ssd instead of the hdd. How do I go about that?

[high haven]

Ok guys I need a flash drive or usb micro SD reader that barely sticks out of the USB port. Like the smallest one yall can know of. Any suggestions?

[opal bobcat]

Flash drives are a pretty standard size, I'm not sure about the micro sd reader tho. You might be able to find one small

[hollow girder]

Samsung fit plus is a small flash drive

Barely sticks out

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-model-muf-64ab-am-64gb/p/N82E16820147717?&quicklink=true

[untold grove]

dont get one of those lol

just in general they bake themselves

not enough room for cooling

get a normal flash drive

[opal bobcat]

well I mean if he just needs a small drive that's probably your best option

[chilly trench]

hello everyone

anyone know what is a good pcie card adaptor for mine 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 1TB. the new desktop i bought the alieware r11 only comes with one slot for it

[opal bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-M-2-X16-V2-Threadripper/dp/B07NQBQB6Z

That's a bit overkill but many adapters like this usually aren't made by big brands.

Asus is the only brand name adapter that I found. @chilly trench

[minor sun]

uh what

@chilly trench Is there a reason that you're getting a PCIe 4.0 SSD for PCIe 3.0 chip

[chilly trench]

because the alienware only comes with one slot and its already filled with the one that is coming with

[opal bobcat]

No he's asking why you are putting a pci gen 4 ssd in a gen 3 slot

Also why buy Alienware? Horrible price to performance plus everything is proprietary.

If you are going to buy a prebuilt, Alienware is probably the worst choice

[chilly trench]

i got a decent deal on with my military discount so

i know nothing of building haha

[prime bramble]

If you know how to use a screw driver right and have some patience its not very complicated

Its just screwing a bunch of things together

[opal bobcat]

Even if you go prebuilt, dell isn't a great option. Better off with IBuyPower or Maingear

But like rebel red said if you've got some spare time to watch a little youtube and a phillips screw driver its not too tough

[chilly trench]

Yeah i got lot of time. Just picking parts is annoying

[opal bobcat]

I understand, it can take some time

[chilly trench]

I guess I took the easy way out haha

I have two systen one with x99 motherboard and 1080 card the new will have thr 3080

[fervent crane]

I bought a prebuilt and then right away wanted to build a computer lol.

I think it’s because I watch a ton of videos and it’s like darn.

[opal bobcat]

Well the good thing is you have an ibuypower which is very modifiable

With an alienware everything is proprietary and the case is a pain to work with so you can't change things down the road

[opal bobcat]

that's awesome tho that ur getting the 3080, have fun w it

[fervent crane]

Ohhh

[chilly trench]

Yeah only reason I went with them I guess

[minor sun]

@chilly trench I mean why are you trying to use PCIe 4.0, the protocol?

980evo is a very damn expensive pcie 4.0 ssd

When the chip will only support pcie 3.0 SSDs that'll be much cheaper

[opal bobcat]

It would be smarter to buy pcie 3.0 if you haven't made the purchase already

[chilly trench]

ok yea i will do that

Whats a good pcie 3.0 970?

[minor sun]

Sn750

Sx8200 pro

Mp34

Mp510

Sabrent rocket

XLR8

VPN100

Etc

[past peak]

is the 500gb 970 evo a good deal for 60 bucks?

[minor sun]

Is good

[past peak]

sweet

thx

[runic crater]

can someone explain me the difference between cl18 and cl16 in ram memory because i saw 2x8 cl 18 rgb and 2x8 cl 16 no rgb and they are the same price

so what should i do

[minor sun]

Lower cas latency the better

3600c16 over 3600c18 any day

[fallow crescent]

Is moving a program from D: to C: as simple as this or? I just dragged it from where its file is located in (hdd)D: to (ssd)C: and it started copying it. Will I have issues with it? Or should it just work fine now? And if I were to delete the program from D:, it’ll still work on C:? (Sorry, a lot of questions in one post)

[queen surge]

best ssd 2 tb?

[carmine musk]

I don’t wanna sound dumb but guys... is this actually a great deal or nah?
SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V7S2T0B/AM) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFZXR1B/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_dlC_G0PYFbR4EXF94?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

2tb for $250 🤔

[opal bobcat]

no

[minor sun]

hell

no

[opal bobcat]

not even close

[minor sun]

@carmine musk it's 315$ rn

[carmine musk]

omg it was $250 in the morning

[opal bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2TB-NAND-NVMe-PCIe/dp/B07JFM524H/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=2tb+ssd+m.2&qid=1607114293&s=electronics&sr=1-13

[carmine musk]

😪

[minor sun]

uh

p1 is a completely different tier from 970 evo

[carmine musk]

But let’s say if it was at $250 would it be a great deal then?

[minor sun]

at least get sx8200 pro

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TY2TN64

just a good deal, not great

[carmine musk]

Wow yeah I can see those you are sharing

$220 $239

[opal bobcat]

wdym by different tier

[minor sun]

@opal bobcat P1 is rated for 2000/1700Mb/s

[opal bobcat]

speed

gotcha

[carmine musk]

Kinda wanna go for the $250 Samsung just because of the brand 😅

[minor sun]

compared to yaknow SX8200 pro as 3500/3000

I mean

[carmine musk]

But anyways it’s not $250 anymore

[minor sun]

ADATA is pretty big too

[plush kelp]

what about sk hynix?

[opal bobcat]

Crucial, western digital, samsung, sk hynix, adata,

they are pretty good

[minor sun]

Hynix makes a ton of things

[opal bobcat]

sabrent

[carmine musk]

I’m already getting the 980Pro 1tb but I wanted 2tb more just for games and stuff 🤔

[opal bobcat]

well if its just for games

[carmine musk]

Still useless if I don’t even have a cpu or GPU to test everything :’v

[opal bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=2tb+hdd&qid=1607114503&s=electronics&sr=1-2

save a few bucks

unless budget isn't a priority

[carmine musk]

Damn $50 bucks that’s pretty good

I’ll get one of those too

Thanks 🙏🏻

[opal bobcat]

too?

[carmine musk]

Yes 🥴

[small steppe]

Laidoff Hitler#7768 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[opal bobcat]

thats a lot of money for storage

[minor sun]

If you just need mass storage

HDD is good

[carmine musk]

Been saving for a good gaming pc 😅

[minor sun]

but game drive, SSD :P

[carmine musk]

But hey! Still no Ryzen 5000 or RTX 3080...

[opal bobcat]

On almost every pc ive built i do a small ssd to boot and then a 2tb hdd for games

save your money for those instead

just wait until they are actually buyable

[carmine musk]

Yeah I’m not paying more than $850 for a RTX 3080 😪

Scalpers...

[opal bobcat]

That's what I mean, wait until the stock builds back up so its 700

they won't be like that forever

[carmine musk]

That’s my plan

I wanted to get a Ryzen 3200g just to test if everything works you know

But they also out of stock like come on

🤣

They $99 but I’ve seen them for $200 now

[opal bobcat]

wow

4 real tho I wouldn't go blowing money on a giant ssd, I would just do a hard drive

you get a lot more capacity for the money

[carmine musk]

I guess you are right I’m already getting a 980pro I don’t think I need another ssd

Hdd should be enough

[minor sun]

meh, I like SSDs as an investment

[opal bobcat]

That's the one good thing about ssds

[minor sun]

storage can be kept, esp with SSDs being, yaknow, solid state drives with no moving parts

[opal bobcat]

well not just one but

hdd will wear out

long term ssd wins but hdd is just so cheap

[minor sun]

There's also gonna be interesting applications with direct io for loading times that will actually use faster speeds in games

but eh, directio isn't out yet for testing and all

[carmine musk]

Mmm so maybe ssd for games and hdd for music and other stuff 🥴😂

[minor sun]

you could grab another simple 1tb 2.5in sata ssd for games tbh

and then a hdd

[carmine musk]

Wrong emoji 🤔*

[untold grove]

Sata vs nvme has no load time impact right now

Or not enough to worry about at least

[fervent crane]

You all ever had a hdd that gave out?

Or do you mean it slows down quicker over time ?

[untold grove]

Yes ive had hdds fail

[past peak]

haha

[fervent crane]

Sorry hhd

[untold grove]

?

[fallow crescent]

Purchased 16 times

dang

[untold grove]

Lol its not me

If it was me the number would be higher

[marble comet]

Just finished building a rig. Everything looks like working well, but i am unable to detect wd blue 3d nand m.2 2280 ssd stick in the bios. I am using B550M pro vdh msi motherboard. Any suggestions?

[untold grove]

you made sure it clicked in?

[marble comet]

yes, i did. there also was an issue with the mb. it came without M2 screw, so i had to improvise with screes i had.

bios on b550 should also be fine

so is this the ssd issue?

[untold grove]

do you have a second slot

[marble comet]

yes i do

[untold grove]

try that one

is it m.2 nvme or m.2 sata

[marble comet]

i just turned off the bios

[untold grove]

what ssd did you get again

[marble comet]

wd blue 3d nand m.2 2280

[untold grove]

omg

like what model number

[marble comet]

WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB Internal SSD - SATA III 6Gb/s M.2 2280 Solid State Drive - WDS500G2B0B

[untold grove]

ewwwwwwwwwwwww

sata

id return that if possible lmao

[torpid adder]

Lol

Why the M.2 version

If you have an M.2 slot available, use an NVMe drive if the slot has NVMe support

If you have no NVMe/M.2 slots like me, then 2.5" version of the Blue 3D is good choice

[untold grove]

thats why i said return it

and nah its only somewhat okay

id go with a crucial or a hynix ssd over a wd drive any day

[torpid adder]

Crucials are pretty much the same lol

[untold grove]

close to the same yeah

i like the hynix drives much more though

[torpid adder]

I don't see anything better about any of the three

They're all about the same

Hynix S31 just seems to be more expensive

Basically Samsung

[untold grove]

i dont like wd's nand

also 200 more rated tbw on the 1tb

600 up from 400

[torpid adder]

Lol higher capacity ssds have higher endurance

[untold grove]

i literally said

1tb to 1tb

[torpid adder]

Mkay :)

[untold grove]

wd blue 1tb has 400tbw

hynix gold has 600tbw

[torpid adder]

200 more tbw for the data hoarder, I can see why you'd want the Hynix in that case :p

[untold grove]

yep

i burn out ssds lol

i had an evo that had like

[torpid adder]

Oof xd

[untold grove]

1.8pb written

[torpid adder]

Nice

[untold grove]

its living in a build i sold

[torpid adder]

Xd

Prankster

[untold grove]

2% smart health

[torpid adder]

Which way is lower health lol

Idr

0% or 100

[untold grove]

100 is highest

[torpid adder]

Ah ok

[untold grove]

plus the blues i got like

rly struggled with constant read and write

hynix had 0 issue

[torpid adder]

Fair

I'm very light on drives in general

Blue is satisfactory

What year blues have you had?

I tried looking online for differentiation between all the Blue 3D drives, but all I can find is 2017 or 2018 reviews comparing those years to even older Blues

And the only info about its DRAM I could find were in one reddit post that referred to another review, said it was 512MB LPDDR3

[untold grove]

https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-blue-ssd/data-sheet-wd-blue-3d-nand-sata-ssd-2879-800092.pdf

heres the datasheet, doesnt say anything abt dram though

[torpid adder]

Yeah crazy

Doesn't any other drive with DRAM advertise itself as having such lmao

[untold grove]

yeah

wd has weird habits with their datasheets

[torpid adder]

Smh WD

[vague condor]

how do i transfer my SDD flies to my hard drive

[untold grove]

wdym

like clone your os?

[vague condor]

like i wanna make space for my sdd since its only has 500 gb

while my hard drive has 2tb

[untold grove]

literally just drag and drop the files over

[swift drum]

@heady raven sorry to bother you but can you help me once again. Yesterday I managed to complete clear the partitions on my old boot drive using the cmd and instructions you told me a while back. what it did was removed the drive from the file explorer portion where you can see your drives. My intention was to replace that old drive with a new ssd I just bought. But when I started up the computer, it refused to boot to my Intel ssd and instead said something like this device needs repair in blue screen. Can I get some help?

Should I remove the old boot drive the we blue 500gb and see if it autoboots from the Intel?

I am able to get to bios if that's any indocation

When I try to manually boot from Intel ssd in bios it gives me this. Not sure. It was working just find yesterday until I cleared the old boot drive completely.

[tawdry finch]

lp§

[swift drum]

I think I fixed it, I went through the media recovery from macrium and tried the boot repair option it had and it seems to be working now. Still going to see if it’s stable.

[swift drum]

Now I got a different problem. My cpu light is on and the case power button works but has no led light around it and display won't show

[swift drum]

Nm I'm figuring it out on my own.

It works now but requires more tests

[heady raven]

the only way that clearing a drive can interfere with your boot process is in the following 2 situations

situation 1: Your boot section is on the wrong drive

situation 2: you cleared the wrong drive

[swift drum]

It works now. Currently I’m moving my boot to a new nvme a friend gave me using the same process you told me before. I took out the old Wd blue and replaced it with adata xpg sx8100. I think when I removed the fans of my cup cooler it may have interfered with my cpu. Removing and reinstalling the cooler and now it boots fine. Hopefully changing boot drives again won’t hurt the stability again.

Gonna convert my intel 665p nvme for secondary storage and using the new adata tlc nvme for booting instead

[heady raven]

it should not (hurt anything that is)

[swift drum]

Once I switch to this new boot drive I’m not messing with my pc for a while. I upgraded my ram to 64gb from 16 so I think I’m done for a while.

[heady raven]

:)

part of the potential problem is the "situation2" up above

which is the reason that the standard recommendation when something is wrong with the OS is "reinstall it all" (preferably with the OS drive as the only drive plugged in)

[swift drum]

Just a quick reminder. Once I clone my old drive to my new one. I reboot and switch boot order to the new adata right? Then turn off the pc and remove the old intel sod to see if it boots properly right?

[heady raven]

you clone the 665 to the sx8100

[swift drum]

Sx8100 but yeah

It’s a 2tb instead of 1

[heady raven]

then depending on how many times you want to handle the drive, you remove the drive you cloned FROM

and then start the system again

[swift drum]

I think I’m good with touch the inside of the pc for now.

[heady raven]

(you will have to tell the bios what to boot from)

[swift drum]

Should I remove the rescue media thumb drive while restarting?

[heady raven]

if everything boots and works as expected. You are free to plug in the intel drive again, and fix the partitions as you want :)

[heady raven]

after the clone? yes

[swift drum]

Ok here goes nothing

Okay so I’m in the bios but I don’t see the adata drive. It says it’s in the system status but not in the boot area

[heady raven]

have you actually cloned the intel to the adata?

[swift drum]

Yeah it said I did.

I went through the process just like last time.

[heady raven]

okay. then at the bottom of the second screen

the top option

[swift drum]

Ok I see this

[heady raven]

aye

that is correct

[swift drum]

Should I disable intel for boot option 2

[heady raven]

yes

[swift drum]

So reboot now?

[heady raven]

aye

see what happens :)

[swift drum]

Ok it boots to adata.

[heady raven]

and you should still be able to see and access the intel one in windows

[swift drum]

Again the partitions are the same but I want to fully utilize the new drive so disk management?

Yes I can access the Intel

[heady raven]

aye, the adata one has to have the volume extended

good good :)

[swift drum]

Ok I did that.

Is it safe to wipe the old drive or...

[heady raven]

show disk management instead

[heady raven]

file explorer doesnt really tell me anything :)

[swift drum]

Disk 2 is the Intel/old nvme boot

[heady raven]

aye

[swift drum]

Disk 1 is the adata

[heady raven]

that works

well done

[swift drum]

So now I want to clear up space for storage.

[heady raven]

and yes, you should be able to clear the old drive

[swift drum]

So what are the healthy recovery partition and healthy efl system partitions on the old drive?

Last time I couldn't delete them in cmd but was able to later.

[heady raven]

aye

do you remember what i answered last time?

[swift drum]

I could just leave them right?

[heady raven]

aye

you can just leave them

[swift drum]

They're not boot file are they?

So delete volume or format? I think it was delete volume yes?

[heady raven]

you can also just format it

its your choice

[swift drum]

What's the difference?

[heady raven]

how long it takes

[swift drum]

That's it?

[heady raven]

basically yes

its not something that differs on the consumer side really

but its something that used to take a bunch of time on a HDD

[swift drum]

Ok. I'll just delete the volume I suppose.

[heady raven]

on a ssd, it matters not

#storage-devices message <- here is the answer from last time about the Recovery /System partitions

[swift drum]

Ok deleted the partition in the old drive and restarting to see if it boots properly

Alright it works. Thanks once again @heady raven for being so kind and helpful to an idiot like me. I hope you and your family have a wonderful holiday and safe time.

[heady raven]

you are very welcome :)

have a lovely holiday when you get there :)

[untold grove]

Oh hi naed

[heady raven]

ello

[fallen shale]

Hello I just upgraded my pc with a western digital WD Black Sn 750 1tb and I just copied all my files from my old ssd using the software acronis and just tried booting my pc up with the new Sn 750 but i get a flashing screen now with a popup saying sihost.exe unknown hard error, but when i boot it up with my old ssd everything is fine, pls help

[heady raven]

your clone was wrong

[fallen shale]

how do i fix it?