cases-psu-and-cooling

[tame cape]

Oke

[fierce pivot]

why would you put 8 fans in this pc, waste of money

[tame cape]

I always discover something new on this server
Ty so much!

[tame cape]

I consider the cooler too

That has 2 fans

[fierce pivot]

Do you want to send me the list in https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list i can recommend any changes?

[tame cape]

Okk

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/

I have a normal SSD and I still have to choose for a good and silent PSU

[tame cape]

The build it's fine and I don't have lot of money for the upgrade so...
Everything's good

[fierce pivot]

Wait hold on, you want to put your 1070 in this yeah? What parts will you be reusing?

[tame cape]

I'll reuse only my SSD and 1070

I'll never sell my 1070... I got it for 200€
Good price

And obviously I don't want an upgrade to a M.2 SSD

[fierce pivot]

@tame cape what case do you have/want to upgrade to and what psu do you have atm? Psus and cases are great to bring forward in a build

[fierce pivot]

I just realized, you sent me the wrong link i was v confused, you need to send the link in the yellow box

Send this link

[tame cape]

Case
Now I have a Mars gaming MCX
PSU Mars gaming MPB650w

[tame cape]

Oh sorry

Wait

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/n9VkF8
Here it is

But 300w looks strange
150w GPU
90w CPU
70w MB
and other components ~50w

Mmmh...no wait..the wattage might be right

Best one? For price, reliability and a SILENT PSU

Because I read that cooler master have lot of coil whine and fan noises

[fierce pivot]

@tame cape what's your budget and what have you purchased already?

[tame cape]

I purchased nothing but some people already asked me for my old components, so when I sell them I'll buy the new ones

[tame cape]

PSU budget or build budget?

By selling old components I'm gonna spend a total of 165€ for the new build

[fierce pivot]

Upgrade budget and can you send what components you have atm in a list, except the psu cuz ik you wanna change that

[tame cape]

Btw I have some components that are not necessary
Exampl: white sleeve cables and 2 additional fans

[tame cape]

Okke

Gimme a minut

[fierce pivot]

Yeye thats fine just the main stuff

[tame cape]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h8hbqp

There is no case bc I think it only sells on Europe (Spain, Italy, Germany...)

[fierce pivot]

Use it.pcpartpicker.com, its for italy instead of the american one

[tame cape]

The .it wabsite doesn't work...😐

[fierce pivot]

Yes it does lol

@tame cape what case you got them

And what's your total budget for upgrade, after you sell old parts

[tame cape]

Mars gaming MCX

[tame cape]

165€

[fierce pivot]

165 to upgrade? That's nothing

[tame cape]

Yes ik

But it's a big upgrade (mostly for estetic)

[fierce pivot]

You won't be able to even upgrade cpu tho

[tame cape]

Because I'm selling old components on a website as the same price as new... People still want to buy

[tame cape]

Wut

Wait

I don't understand

[fierce pivot]

I doubt you'll be able to get new prices for used products, they gonna pay bit lesss

[fierce pivot]

You said you've got 165€ after selling your old stuff to upgrade

[tame cape]

There are many people that want to buy my 2600x for 170€

[tame cape]

Noo
I wanted to say that the upgrade will cost me only 165€ by selling my old compinents

The total upgrade is around 600€
600-430(used components)= ~165€

[fierce pivot]

Not what i asked lol

[tame cape]

I'll sell al my old component for ~430

Or you mean how much money I'll have after the upgrade??
If yes
0€

[fierce pivot]

No, how much can you spend

[tame cape]

Max. 165€
But if I sell all my old components I'll have ~600€

To spend for the new ones

[fierce pivot]

This was the number i needed lol

[tame cape]

Sorry...😂

[fierce pivot]

@tame cape you want rgb?

[tame cape]

Mmmh
YES

Sorry, I didn't put RGB fans on pc partpicker

[fierce pivot]

Okay

@tame cape https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/G9jdsX I'd do this

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/d8FvTJ

Actually this has ram rgb

[analog condor]

what makes a case have good airflow?

is it the amount of fans or?

im confused.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PMFKHx/cougar-gemini-m-microatx-mini-tower-case-385tmb00001

im looking at that case because its cheap, it can have 1 120mm fan in the back 3 120mm fans in front and 2 140mm fans on top

[fierce pivot]

Mesh

[fierce pivot]

[analog condor]

it is hot tho?

[fierce pivot]

Uh it's an oven my guy

No airflow

[analog condor]

damn, do you know a cheaper case thats good airflow?

or is there a way to filter out on pcpp for mesh or something?

hey this case looks good

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Cyqqs/nzxt-h510-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510b-w1

lol

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air

[fierce pivot]

Unfortunately not

[fierce pivot]

Overpriced and meh, surprisingly not horrible but not good either

[analog condor]

what is a good way to tell if it has good airflow, look in reviews?

[fierce pivot]

.

[elfin trout]

Reviews by actual reviewers, and mesh.

Like GN/TPU/Tom's hardware

[mossy yacht]

Anyone know if the full sized lian li dynamic vertical gpu mount will fit the mini?

[mild roost]

i doubt it would

Only fits the case it's made for lol

[wanton briar]

There are companies that sell universal vertical mount brackets, all it requires is a PCIe slots without metal bars in between them

Requires the normal ATX 7 slots

[mild roost]

ya

[mild roost]

Get that instead

[winged leaf]

https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-level-20-vt-extreme-micro-atx-cube-chassis/p/N82E16811133380?Description=thermaltake&cm_re=thermaltake-_-11-133-380-_-Product

Thoughts on this case or a case for a budget flip

[weary vine]

I hate it

a lot

[wanton briar]

$120 case for a budget flip?

[weary vine]

for a budget flip go P400A

[winged leaf]

I just had that ine sent to me

[weary vine]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854086

[wanton briar]

Some people barely spend $120 on their case for higher end main machines

[winged leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xf7Lt8

[weary vine]

if you wanna spend that much go p500a

[winged leaf]

thats the build and parts I have so far are marked

[weary vine]

this hurts

[mild roost]

new 1600

wew

[winged leaf]

the parts that I have were not purchased they were given to me

[weary vine]

how much money u got for parts?

[mild roost]

i doubt that x570 even works with 1600

[winged leaf]

Im looking to stay around $300 so I can can still profit off a sell

[weary vine]

does

I checked on mobo website

[mild roost]

does that gigabyte work with it?

oh nice

[weary vine]

can you up it?

or buy 2nd hand

[winged leaf]

how much and what am I looking at for possible return?

[weary vine]

well you can get a 3600 or something off ebay or facebook marketplace

u live in the us?

because 1600 sucks

its got the single core perf of a 3rd gen intel cpu

[winged leaf]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002599527521.html?

[winged leaf]

yes

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002259490147.html?

[weary vine]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284360845334?epid=23041272473&hash=item42353a2816:g:NKsAAOSw8lxg44Hx

[weary vine]

This looks good

get that

[winged leaf]

no to the 3700 then

heard

[weary vine]

I mean you can get it if you want its just gonna be overkill with that rx570 imo

[winged leaf]

ok 3600 it is

what else did you not like on there?

[weary vine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2GLz2V

is this doable?

[winged leaf]

Is there a rgb cooler you recommend? going red and black. Also will it sell with only 500gb?

[weary vine]

yeah 500gb ssd is fine

[winged leaf]

ok

[weary vine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Rvpt8

[winged leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mWtPj2

Whats the sell value?

$800?

[surreal helm]

yo what's the difference between the coolermaster nr200 and the nr200p

[weary vine]

yeah

[weary vine]

nr200p has a glass/ acrylic window on the side

nr200 has grill

[zinc crag]

tips on testing a cx750 PSU

[elfin trout]

testing it...?

[tame cape]

Are thermaltake PSU good?

[fierce pivot]

They have some good some okay and some awful

[tame cape]

I need a good PSU under 55€
80+ bronze
Not coolermaster

[elfin trout]

CX, Bitfenix Whisper M/formula gold to start off, should be close to 60euros for 550w

[analog condor]

https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-flyer-x-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00009

can anyone help me find what fans are preinstalled in this?

i look on pcpp and it says montech dont have any fans

i also looked on regualr google and no montech fans came up, only the case

[fierce pivot]

Then you cant get the fans without buying the case? Why would you want 200mm fans anyway

[analog condor]

they come with the case, but i want to find matching fans, so im not using montech and cooler master fans

[fierce pivot]

Well i just wouldn't get that case, also if you were getting a system in that price bracket of the case just use included case fans and rest of slots empty lol

[mossy yacht]

Tbh i would never cheap out on a case

I spend anywhere from 120-200 on cases alone

[analog condor]

dang

[fierce pivot]

Frankly that's a dumb number to be spending on a case unless you're going pretty premium, and even then I'd cap at like ~150, you can get good budget cases for 60$ like mx330 air and metallicgear neo air, and when you can get the p400a digital for 90$ , cmon

[mossy yacht]

Usually i like building premium. Its just my preference and obviously the build quality and attention to detail will be better

[fierce pivot]

P400a is premium tho lol

[mild roost]

^

Premium cases doesn't have go be so absurd in price

Like even corsair 5000d airflow isn't like 200

[blissful thistle]

After a while cases will become expensive to the point the companies don't care about airflow from what I've seen

[open quartz]

to be fair though for certain things like that with corsair specifically, they are undergoing a rebrand of the sort and are catering to many things that not everyone is going to buy, they couldve made the 4000d and called it a day

[mild roost]

tru

The 7000D is pointless ngl

It's huge

[open quartz]

well, it has some use case for some people but thats also why its really expensive because its not going to appeal to the masses like the 4000d

[mild roost]

ye

[open quartz]

also not entirely true since we can take corsair as an example, they flipped the script on everyone

not a single person in this server recommended a corsair case and now a lot of people recommend the 4000d like hot cakes

[mild roost]

I also like 4000d

It looks nice, not too expensive and airflow is gud

Well provided it's the airflow

[open quartz]

the glass front is fine too depending on what youre throwing into your system

[blissful thistle]

Sorry, I didn't mean 100% of the time

Should've said that

[elfin trout]

At one point I was recommending 220t airflow to ca people, but I kinda dislike 4000d airflow :p

[open quartz]

it was nice knowing you mr1111, but its time for you to be banned

220t i was recommending at one point to as an alternative instead of the meshify c since at the time the meshify c was like $30~$40 more expensive

[elfin trout]

I was reccomending it because 220t airflow at like 80cad is better than h510 at same price :p

[open quartz]

the 220t was better than the meshify c at one point in terms of value here in the US

[elfin trout]

Perhaps

[wanton briar]

I have a 220T in my shed rn

I dont use it tho

[mild roost]

https://youtu.be/LJU80bmblRQ

ooh

actually good cheap 650w

[fierce pivot]

Tbf there's some mwe v2 bronzes in that range

[grave veldt]

Hi guys

Corsair SF support lian li o11 dynamic mini?

is there different between sf and sfx or same just cut?

[fierce pivot]

Yes, sf and sfx are the same thing, I'd usually recommend a different power supply for itx, corsair sf is usually more expensive than the other options and same/not as good quality

[weary vine]

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/SF-Series™-SFX-to-ATX-Adapter-Bracket-2-0/p/CP-8920204

if you already have that psu

then get that

[grave veldt]

I’m already ordered worng size i took Corsair rm 850w

[fierce pivot]

Oops

[grave veldt]

I think I can’t but it in dynamic mini case

[fierce pivot]

O11d mini is itx psu

[grave veldt]

yeah

So should I buy sf right?

[fierce pivot]

What specs you putting in your build?

[grave veldt]

hmm

[fierce pivot]

Cpu and gpu will do

Just need to estimate the wattage etc

[grave veldt]

Ryzen 7 3700
Gigabyte 3060 ti

[fierce pivot]

Okay

[grave veldt]

I already ordered 600w it that enough?

[fierce pivot]

@grave veldt https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DhRgXL/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-6501-sfhagv-us is get this

Not really

[grave veldt]

Adapter bracket only from sfx to atx right not the opposite?

[fierce pivot]

Think they were mistaken yeah

[odd flare]

this isnt new

[elfin trout]

o11 mini -> Need SFX/SFX-L

[elfin trout]

and yes, you can't use a bracket to make a big psu small

[fierce pivot]

Ye

That's what shrink rays are for

[weary vine]

Ahh mini

[fierce pivot]

Ye

[mild roost]

idk but it's gn, they're late

[stone anvil]

I am looking to Build a new PC around an AMD 5600X and a 3070 Ti FE. Are older cases still reasonable for cooling? TO save money I considered putting my build in a decade old Corsair 600T White Edition case.

[weary vine]

3600 is awful value rn and the 3070ti is as well

I would go either 5600x or an 11400(at under 200$) and a 3070/80

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt

very nice white case

you dont even need to buy extra fans with it

[stone anvil]

@weary vine Sorry I went and did an edit. I meant the 5600X. I had the 3600 on my brain from looking at deals recently.

I picked up the 3700 Ti FE for MSRP at Best Buy a couple weeks ago. With the scarcity of parts I figured that was a decent get even if it isn't as good of value proposition as the non Ti parts

[weary vine]

Ah thats cool no problem

[blissful thistle]

Def worth it then. 3070 ti vram gets toasty

[weary vine]

Nice! 3070ti is still very capable and a great gpu.

[blissful thistle]

But msrp in today's market is great

[weary vine]

If you want you can send over all the parts you have in mind over as a pcpartspicker list and i can make suggestions

[stone anvil]

I was gonna save the money on a case for now if the old one is still capable enough. It has a top 200 MM fan, front 200 mm fan and one rear 120 mm Fan.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4Mf3Z

[weary vine]

Do you need 32gb ram

[stone anvil]

I am still looking for a Motherboard, PSU and CPU cooler. I have a 750 Watt PSU that I didnt use much.. https://www.newegg.com/pc-power-and-cooling-silencer-750-eps12v-750w/p/N82E16817703006

[weary vine]

I wouldnt trust that psu at all

Whats ur budget for the entire pc?

[stone anvil]

@weary vine I don' t need it but I thought it would be better to have more. I also wondered if I should get the 5800X. That way when more games are targeted at the consoles it would match for cores.

[blissful thistle]

5600x is fine for a 3070 ti

[weary vine]

Just give me a number as to how much you wanna spend total on the pc

Ill make u a partslist

[stone anvil]

I'd like to stay under $2000. I had both SSDs because I didn't know which to pick. It will mostly be used for gaming but I have done some ripping of media in the past.

[weary vine]

Ok gimme 30 mins or so since i gtg have dinner ill send you a parts list asap

And thats 2000 including the 3070ti yes?

[fierce pivot]

3070 ti fe is

[blissful thistle]

Other than the vram

Ignoring shortage id go 3070 fe any day first, but cant really ignore that can we lmao

[stone anvil]

@weary vine yes I want to include the 3070 Ti in that build. I just picked the card and put in the price I paid for it.

[blissful thistle]

Why 3700x

[weary vine]

He meamt 3070ti

[blissful thistle]

I'm smart

Ignore me

[fierce pivot]

Id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sdFJYg

[fierce pivot]

Doesn't matter, 600$ 3070

[blissful thistle]

Read the message after that pato

[fierce pivot]

Yeah i saw after i sent

[weary vine]

ur losing ur touch

smh

[fierce pivot]

Wydm lol

[weary vine]

windows 10 price

[fierce pivot]

I just left that lol, if they wanna spend that much on windows they can cba to change it

[blissful thistle]

What's cba?

I thought it was can't be asked

[weary vine]

it is

[mild roost]

cba means can't be assed

[stone anvil]

@fierce pivot @weary vine Windows 10 was a placeholder/worst case scenario.

[fierce pivot]

It means can't be arsed

[fierce pivot]

Yeah, you can always leave inactivated if you don't care about the water mark

Or copy the code from an old pc/laptop you have

[turbid pulsar]

hi

[stone anvil]

Should I move to another chat if I have general build questions?

[elfin trout]

any chat works but #building-and-recc-chat is nice for general questions

[elfin trout]

doesn't matter that much which chat you ask in general unless you have something specific about a specific part, then you might want to use a specific chat

[junior nebula]

Does anyone know the ETA on the cooler master NR200P MAX? I cannot find any preorders or updates on when it may be available. I know there were issues getting it out due to shipping and stock but just wanting to know when so I can stop stalking the internet.

[winged leaf]

Best budget case. Red and Black build

[rich briar]

Whats your budget limit for the case

[untold ruin]

Anything by DIYPC is pretty budget

[weary vine]

Eh

[fierce pivot]

What's definition of budget case? Because probs p360a/p400a

[stone anvil]

Why did you choose the MSI MPG over a MSI Tomahawk?

[fierce pivot]

Do you mean the gaming edge wifi? The mpg agf is a power supply

[stone anvil]

yes I was referring to the PcPP you sent above.

[fierce pivot]

Just a nicer board

And has wifi

[elfin trout]

in #cpus-mobo-and-memory , I told them b550 tomahawk or torpedo because they specified they didn't want wifi

[fierce pivot]

Ahhhh, yeah fair enough i didn't know if they wanted wifi or not and it's a solid board so just kinda through it together

[elfin trout]

also, now that I look at it again, gaming edge wifi is like the same exact board as tomahawk lol

same vrms same rear io same pcie setup

same fan headers same rgb headers

same usb headers

oh except tomahawk has 2 ethernet jacks, 2 controllers, RTL8125B(2.5gbe) and RTL8111H(1gbe) versus gaming edge wifi with just RTL8125B(2.5gbe)

and ofc gaming edge wifi has ax200

[fierce pivot]

Oh really lol nice

[elfin trout]

anyways

[fierce pivot]

Oh nais

But 10$ extra for ax200 wifi and having Bluetooth is 100% worth it imo

[elfin trout]

I mean, 10$ extra for an ax200 card isn't exactly the hardest to get

but also torpedo is 150$ with same vrms

[fierce pivot]

Torpedo nice

[fierce pivot]

Is it not?

Lowest I've seen is like ~20$

[stone anvil]

How does the Torpedo compare for the other specs? @elfin trout

[weary vine]

same

[fierce pivot]

And having it built in is cleaner than a card

[weary vine]

also leaves more slots for other tings

[subtle snow]

Hey so this is my current pc case.

Im thinking of moving on from it. Anyone have suggestions? I'm running a 3080 and thinking of trying to get more space for eventually getting some watercooling going.

https://www.mydiypcusa.com/product/diypc-d480-w-rgb-white-dual-usb-3-0-atx-mid-tower-gaming-computer-case-with-build-in-3-x-rgb-led-fans-pre-installed-and-rgb-remote-control

Don't want something with poopy ventilation if I don't get water cooling

[sand atlas]

The easy answer is corsair 5000d airflow. Great case overall, for both liquid and air cooling.

[subtle snow]

Thank ya! I was lookin at it too

[elfin trout]

P500a is the easier answer :p

[open quartz]

accept the corsair takeover, mr1111

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

[wanton briar]

Honestly, I want a 4000D but I do not have a use for it currently lmao

I already have a build in progress

[subtle snow]

What about the 5000x or whatever? It comes with 3 fans instead of 2

[wanton briar]

Has poopy airflow since no airflow front panel

[subtle snow]

As opposed to the D?

[wanton briar]

It has a glass front and top panel

[subtle snow]

Ahh

Interesting

[open quartz]

has decent airflow the front panel 4/5000 series so long as youre not throwing something like a 3090 in there

[elfin trout]

Screw Corsair tho

[open quartz]

THE FUTURE IS NOW

[elfin trout]

Bad peripherals and wacky ssd

[open quartz]

this is cases and psu chat, not peripherals or storage-devices chat

the future still remains in the present

reeeee

[elfin trout]

Corsair only has 2 decent cases

[subtle snow]

Phantek looks good also

[elfin trout]

Priced relatively average/bad

[open quartz]

because the future doesnt come later, but instead now

reeee

corsair gang

[elfin trout]

And Corsair takes credit for CWT making the good PSUs

:p

Like RM is practically a revolution d.f. but cutdown

Because same original platform, RM has crappy caps though

[open quartz]

shush, corsair now

[subtle snow]

Aight so if I were to get the 5000d what fans should I slap In there since it comes with only 2 120mm fans or whateva

Running a ryzen 5 5600x and a 3080 in it

Dumb typos

Or I can take that to cooling

[sand atlas]

Arctic p12 fans, $31 for a 5 pack (rgb costs more)

[odd flare]

not like it matters

aorus

b550 aorus pro so lit

aorus elite lit too

[elfin trout]

:p

[elfin trout]

I'm turning away from aorus elite because no debug led though

[odd flare]

like debug LED/post code is helpful on amd

but sure

get the pro then

[elfin trout]

They are for people who don't know anything >:p

but yea pro fine

[haughty field]

@balmy fable looked at #build-pics and I like your case, what is it? Sorry for ping

[hollow gale]

its a Lin Li Q58

[minor portal]

Voxenfree#0428 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Voxenfree#0428 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[balmy fable]

Lian li q58

[ember hound]

i have located 2400 watt psu, its inasinity

[fierce pivot]

To my knowledge that is most likely fake if you're talking bout pc psus

[wanton briar]

Most likely a crappy Chinese mining PSU

In which I would not exactly trust

[fierce pivot]

95plus psu

[mild roost]

no

100+ psu

[slate creek]

Crosshair VIII Hero littest

[odd flare]

not really

it OCs mem pretty poo poo

i would unironically have the b550 aorus pro over it

and the non dark has a chipset fan

[balmy badge]

i need some help
https://strawpoll.com/j5jj572qc

mesh front, ATX, glass side
if it didnt have the RGB fans, but it has a single 3 pin/molex intake and rear exhaust
what price would you buy it at? or recommend to a friend to buy it at?

please vote on the strawpoll

[scenic lance]

Why a link?

There's smart people here to help you

[balmy badge]

opinion poll across several discords for some research

i need more than just my opinion

im not actually buying the case

[scenic lance]

I don't touch links on servers unless it's for doujins or trusted

[balmy badge]

i want to know what the average PC builder thinks a case like that is worth to buy or recommend to someone asking for a PC build

[balmy badge]

i wouldnt be a techie if i wasnt a trustworthy person to not post scam links... its a strawpoll, one of the most popular polling websites every big youtuber uses

[chrome iris]

Can confirm, Demon is legit

[fiery burrow]

wont let me vote

[scenic lance]

I don't use it and I'm a YouTuber

[fiery burrow]

says vpn voting isnt allowed

do i need account

[balmy badge]

its IP protected so people cant vote twice

by switching IP

[fiery burrow]

im assuming i need account

[balmy badge]

its not important enough for you to put that much effort into it

[fiery burrow]

ok

ima sleep then

gn

[chrome iris]

this doesnt say much considering you get an average of 3 views per video

[sand atlas]

Roasted

[winged crescent]

Anyone know if I need an extra 120 or 140 mm case fan for the back of a p500a?

[scenic lance]

Not roasted

[balmy badge]

i am the smart people... i dont need help picking a case for myself

[sand atlas]

"Need" is subjective, nice to have usually though

[scenic lance]

Think imma sleep

[elfin trout]

Food for thought and context for my choice, I'd think cheaper than mx330-g air because one less fan, similar price to montech x1 because it should be similar build quality (relatively bad), worse build quality than neo air. It'll probably be competing with like focus g kind of case.

[balmy badge]

ill find out cause im having one sent to me soon

but i want to know what people would be willing to pay if it was sold without the RGB fans

[elfin trout]

I'm just thinking basically a focus g that looks better

Which people buy around 50$ afaik

[weary vine]

"every big youtuber uses" lmao

[elfin trout]

My response was 55$ btw.

But well, if it turns out the build quality is good, can probably up the price

[weary vine]

same. Woulda been 70 if rgb fans were included

[elfin trout]

I initially got to that price by just mx330-g air price (60$ after shipping) - 5$ (probably cost of single fan)

[scenic lance]

Hmm

[balmy badge]

its $85 right now

with the fans

[weary vine]

I wouldnt pay that much for it tbh, especially when the P400A Digital is like 5$ more

[fierce pivot]

Strawpoll is a very common website lmao

[fierce pivot]

P500a digital comes with enough fans, p500a non digital could use 1 or 2 more intake fans, that's about it

[fierce pivot]

Too much imo, when mx330 g air/metallic gear neo air 60-70$

[fierce pivot]

I said 45 but 45-50$ btw, cougar mx330 g air and metallic gear neo air are both better options imo and like rawr said at 85 that's horrible, when you can get p400a digital for 90$ or non digital for 75$ and get a p12 and have dc/pwm fans instead of icky molex

[weary vine]

Yeah but the one demon sent looks better

[fierce pivot]

I suppose but eh

Also p360a like 80$

Which looks just as good and rgb and no molex fans

[weary vine]

Fair fair

but tbh molex fans are fine

I have molex fans in my build rn

[fierce pivot]

Just running at 100% all the time can be icky also usually lower quality

[balmy badge]

yeah at $85 the case isnt worth it

but at $50-$60, but no RGB?

it would compete well in the budget airflow case market

basically a budget meshify C copy

[weary vine]

no rgb and fewer fans tho

[balmy badge]

ok? P300a is $60-$70 with 1 fan

and a smaller case

montech X1 has more fans, but its static multicolor LEDs

[balmy badge]

same setup as the 4000D airflow

no RGB

2 fans

but at $50-$60

not $100

meshify C only has a single fan

for a $100 case

MX300 has a single fan

no glass

at $50

Zalman S2 is a good option

3 molex fans

no glass

[weary vine]

yeah thats fair

[balmy badge]

MX 330G air is nice, 3 fans, blue LED only though, glass side

so it would have to compete directly with that

[weary vine]

I would still get a p360a and now worry about extra fans

[balmy badge]

$80 case

vs a $50-$60 case

id say this case would do well at $55

sure, spend 45% more on a case

you get a better case

but it costs 45% more

lol

[weary vine]

I mean ur gonna have to buy 2 fans with that case anyway

[balmy badge]

people run a 4000D airflow with the stock fans

and its fine

[weary vine]

running a pc off the top of the mobo box is technically fine too

but I get what ur saying

its a good deal on a case

[winged crescent]

Is the rgb one the digital

[fierce pivot]

Yes

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[dawn matrix]

Yikes

[untold ruin]

Is my PSU enough for my specs?
Corsair RM850x.

Ryzen 5 3600
Sapphire Nitro+6700XT
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB Ram @ 3600mHz
Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Cap.
9x Corsair LL120 RGB
3x Corsair ML120 RGB
1x m.2
1x 970 Evo 1tb
Asus x570 Prime-A Pro.

[chrome iris]

Yes

[untold ruin]

Is there a way to measure how much my system is using under full load? Just want to know what my overhead looks like

[weary vine]

OCCT

[untold ruin]

Thank you!

[weary vine]

np

[fierce pivot]

Very much plenty

[fierce pivot]

Enough overhead to stick a 3080/3080 ti/6800xt/6900xt in there

[untold ruin]

Crazy to think an 850w can handle that much plus all the other stuff I mentioned. Almost entire pc is rgb minus case and psu

Website said that my setup sucks up 517w, whether thats under load or not idk.

[weary vine]

an rgb fan takes under 5W

[quasi kraken]

yea your computer doesn't pull 517w at idle

lol

i run a 5900x+6900xt off a 750 watt power supply 😎

[weary vine]

bruh

[untold ruin]

I feel like that's pushing it a lil

No?

[weary vine]

it is

[elfin trout]

Shouldn't actually be too bad unless windshields is OCing 6900xt

[quasi kraken]

No it isn't.

[quasi kraken]

No.

[weary vine]

Both under full load pushes it really close

[quasi kraken]

do you have any evidence to support this statement

[weary vine]

Hmm it appears you have about 50-60 watts of headroom. I was incorrect. As long as its a quality 750w unit and you dont overclock you should be fine

[quasi kraken]

dont worry i know what im doing

[weary vine]

I don't doubt it, just making a general statement

[quasi kraken]

you better not doubt it

[weary vine]

subtle. nice.

[quasi kraken]

😎

[hollow badge]

are corsair power supplys any good

[weary vine]

some of em are

[hollow badge]

is the RM750x

good

[odd rapids]

Yes

Can get pricey but yes

[fierce pivot]

Yeah, price bad tho, I'd recommend a msi agf or corsair txm(depending on country) or enermax revolution d.f. instead

[odd flare]

my 6900 xt does 450w comfy

probably 700+ peak

given this chart

lmao

6900 xt has such bad input filtering

transients like crazy

[mild roost]

it's even worse than 3090

whoa

psu go pop if there's not enough power to handle those

[odd flare]

naw

transients usually okay

it just trips ocp on crappy psus

mostly seasonic

leadex doesnt have protections tho so based psus is fine

[mild roost]

ah

[elfin trout]

No no leadex is just so op protections don't have to trip :D

[odd flare]

protections for weaklings

[mild roost]

leadex is too good for protections

[elfin trout]

Leadex has to protect protections from its own power

[mild roost]

^

[steady urchin]

is the asus gt301 a good case

[elfin trout]

not really?

[mild roost]

meh

[slate creek]

Just get a 4000d airflow

[weary vine]

P500A or P400A digital better because no need for more fans

[steady urchin]

i would but it is not available in my region

[slender patrol]

there has got to be a power supply wizard in here. Can someone help me with psus and cables?

[fierce pivot]

What's up?

[slender patrol]

Oof was just about to go to bed. Are you available to talk tomorrow?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah sure

[slender patrol]

hey I'm available again. Just let me know if you have time to chat.

[hidden lance]

if i get a gpu that reccomends a psu with 650 watts, is getting a 650 watt psu good? or should i get a 750 for safety

[elfin trout]

What gpu and cpu

[hidden lance]

MSI AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Gaming w/ Sea Sonic FOCUS 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular

[slender patrol]

what processor

[hidden lance]

oh my bad

amd 7 5800x

do i add their both reccomened watt reccomendation to find a good psu?

[fierce pivot]

Hey, what can i help you with?

[slender patrol]

you add up the TDP of the components in your system. CPU/GPU taking up the biggest share of that.

[fierce pivot]

650w is good to go, you can get 750w if you like but no need unless you wanna future prokd

[hidden lance]

amd 7 5800x + MSI AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Gaming right?

[fierce pivot]

Yep

[hidden lance]

cool thanks

[slender patrol]

I'm trying to safely maximize 2x 1300W PSU for a mining rig, but I'm having a hard time finding cables that I know are safe to use and compatible with the PSU. I'm using 2x EVGA G2 1300W. I need a 8 pin splitter for a 3070 so I can use 1 slot VGA. For some reason EVGA only sells 8 pin (6+2) split with a 6 pin. I've been told I need 16 AWG to be safe, but I'm having a hard time finding it as most are 18 AWG.

[hidden lance]

your one of them...

[fierce pivot]

18 awg should be fine, doesn't have to be evga specific as it's basically a cable extension just passing the power through

[slender patrol]

Ok thanks. Do you have any recommendations on a 6pin to 2x6pin to power risers with?

[slender patrol]

ya sorry bud, I enjoy finding ways to buy cards and I ran out of friends that needed them so I'm giving mining a try as a hobby.

[fierce pivot]

I dont tbh but ehh good luck

[slender patrol]

is that a sketch thing to do?

[fierce pivot]

Ehh should be okay as long as you do them on different 8 pin wires, just dont daisy chain pig tails

[woven mantle]

this the right place to ask if any companies make cases that can hold 2 dvd drives?

[sand atlas]

There's plenty of cases still that have that

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#X=0,78580&G=2,12

[woven mantle]

been years since ive had to look, that is what they call external 5.25" bays now?

[sand atlas]

Yes, it's external since you can access it without opening the case

There's lots of cool stuff you can put in those bays too, from extra usb ports to a manual fan speed dial to extra 2.5 and 3.5 drive bays

[woven mantle]

just want to be able to replace my normal disc reader and burner

not even sure if they make non-burners anymore though, cant seem to find them either

[sand atlas]

There's no real disadvantage to modern combo units, even price is pretty much the same.

[marble nimbus]

Pystar 850W Power Supply 80+ Gold Full Modular PSU,ES850

Why is this so cheap on Amazon?

[fierce pivot]

Because I've never even heard of pystar, probably some crappo chinese unit

[mild roost]

That's a crap psu

Probably even lying about the gold

[marble nimbus]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[mossy yacht]

Would it be safe to use cable extensions on the oem pcie wire thats splits into 8x2+ 6x2 to power my 3080 ti?

[mild roost]

No

Oh wait, is it already with the psu?

If so yes

[mossy yacht]

Yea i was hoping to use each 8 pin connector on the gpu and connecting it to 3 pcie connectors on the psu itself

But i only have 8pin (psu) to 8+6x2 (pcie)

I have 2 of them

[fierce pivot]

As long as you have 2 separate cables, the 3rd one should be okay to be daisy chained but I'd advise against it as any psu that should be able to take a 3080 ti, should have 3 separate pcie cables

What psu do you have?

[mossy yacht]

I have a coolermaster 850w sfx psu

I just have to find a 3rd oem pcie 8pin cable somewhere

[fierce pivot]

It didn't come in the box?

[mossy yacht]

Only came with 2 and both are daisy chained

[fierce pivot]

Ehh should be okay with 1 of the things being daisy chained

[mossy yacht]

Im gonna temporarily run it like that but get a 3rd pcie cable

[fierce pivot]

Yeah good idea

[mossy yacht]

Found it on amazon but the missing pin on the top left dosent match up with mine. I have a missing pin on the bottom left

[fierce pivot]

just make sure its actually compatible the cooler master sfc psu

[mossy yacht]

Yea it dosent say. I cant find one anywhere

[chrome iris]

It’s an Aresgame AGS clone from what I can tell

[slate creek]

…why would someone want to clone Aresgame?

[weary vine]

Game in the name

Has to be good

[ruby nacelle]

yo quick question for yall, can a O11 dynamic hold a 280 rad on the top?

[sand atlas]

Yes

[ruby nacelle]

bet, bouta cop the case

soon at least

[stone anvil]

I see Best Buy has some PC parts on sale right now. I don't know if its a pre black friday sale or something.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/promo/select-components-and-storage-savings

MSI MPG A750GF 750W ATX 80 Plus Gold PSU Power Supply - Black - $89.99 ($40 off)
CORSAIR - CX-F RGB Series™ CX750F RGB 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - Black - $99.99
CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M 750W 80 Plus Bronze ATX Power Supply - Black - $69.99 ($35 off)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqGg8J

Would any work well for my build?

[fierce pivot]

None of those are really deals, normal, if not more than normal prices of those products elsewhere

[dusk pasture]

should i get a corsair 1000d?

[fierce pivot]

If you're looking for a good deal on a good power supply https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na get this

[stone anvil]

I have been trying to look back for the message you sent recommending a PSU. Unless you had one you usually would recommend for a build like mine. What's the minimum wattage I would likely need.

[fierce pivot]

If you don't mind rebate

[fierce pivot]

650w will do you

[stone anvil]

Would it be binomial to get a 750Watt if I plan on doing a GPU upgrade in the future.... or is there not as much power creep as there used to be. It's my understanding the 3070 Ti FE already uses more than the base 3070.

[dusk pasture]

@fierce pivot

hi

[fierce pivot]

Howdy

[fierce pivot]

Imo no

[dusk pasture]

why not?

i could do two thicc 400mm rads in front

cool my 3090 and 5900x

[fierce pivot]

Well it depends what you'd like to upgrade too

[stone anvil]

I don't intend on getting bleeding edge graphics. This is the most I think I have spent on a card before.

[dusk pasture]

what card?

[fierce pivot]

Meh your case is nice

[dusk pasture]

true

i love it

nice and spacious

and plenty of airflow

[fierce pivot]

If you want to future proof your psu I'd go with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-mpg-a-gf-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

[dusk pasture]

is there anything bettr than my revolt x 1000w?

[stone anvil]

I guess I don't have much experience with MSI brand power supplies. I know every brand can make some cheap trash but I want something reliable without paying a ton for something luxury. The price on that MSI 850 watt seems to be less than the Corsair 850 watt I have been seeing.

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but not worth

[dusk pasture]

what is better?

[fierce pivot]

Yep, that msi power supply is an a tier power supply

[stone anvil]

May I ask where the tier list is so I can better understand what it compares to?

[dusk pasture]

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

[fierce pivot]

Not really tbh actually, it's a top tier a tier

[dusk pasture]

no

its b

oh

im blind

[fierce pivot]

I thought it was b for a sec too

[stone anvil]

@fierce pivot So I am looking at $90 for the 750 Watt MSI or $110 for an 850 Watt. Is it worth the $20 given my build. I guess if i put in a bunch of money for future parts I could upgrade then too as well.

[fierce pivot]

Depends what you wanna upgrade to

If you want an xx80 tier gpu then 850w if not then a 650w is all you need

[stone anvil]

What if I OC at all. Will I need more than a 650 Watt

[fierce pivot]

Nope

You can get a 750w if you wanna be safe but yeah

[dusk pasture]

can i use a 400w

[fierce pivot]

If you have low wattage system, ye

[dusk pasture]

5900x 3090

[fierce pivot]

No, bad

[dusk pasture]

so 200w

i kid

1000w perfect

[fierce pivot]

Oui

[dusk pasture]

what

[fierce pivot]

Yes in french

[flint laurel]

dont click the link

[desert flower]

Need help with my psu cables

There pcie splits on one end and I don’t know which one goes into my gpu

Or if it even matters

[weary vine]

The ends will be labelled

Pcie goes to the gpu

If all 3 ends say pcie then put the end that is not split into the psu

[distant gyro]

Hi everyone, I ordered an evga g6 1000w psu, i am upgrading from an evga g3 650w psu, will it be possible to just change the box and keep the same cables already attached to the components since it's the same brand?

[weary vine]

I wouldnt

[distant gyro]

Sorry, bought my pc pre built and first time changing psu so kinda lost. Lol

[candid mason]

Does the power supply rating matter much?

[weary vine]

Doesnt matter for quality of unit

Matters for power efficiency

Theres plent bronze rated psus that are better than gold rated ones

[candid mason]

Thanks for the explanation 👍🏻

[scenic lance]

I hate seeing people piggy back. Always use 2

[fierce pivot]

It's called pigtails btw 😆

[weary vine]

Piggy back very different yee

[cyan wyvern]

Any input on seasonic tx prime 850w or 1000w for 9900k + 3090? I'm asking because i'm wondering if I have 2 bad psus or something else is wrong with my setup. While gaming, my computer would randomly shutdown with the 850w or randomly reboot with the 1000w.

[elfin trout]

What's the price you see for those?

Wait

@cyan wyvern prime based units pre-2018 have known issues with shutdown on 3080/3090

I think it's OPP being too sensitive and tripping

Not completely sure on specifics

[cyan wyvern]

That makes sense. Thanks for the info

[frail idol]

I have a question about my case

I have a Antec df600-flux case
I want to do a full custom loop liquid cool set up. I want to do a 360mm rad for the CPU and a 360mm rad for the GPU. Could I do that and put the res/pump where the rear fan would go?

[fierce pivot]

Can you even fit 2 360s in that?

[weary vine]

I would do this

One 360 rad up front with intake

[frail idol]

They can

[weary vine]

One 360 up top as exaust

And let the fan in the back stay exaust

[frail idol]

I'd the fans on the outside of the case

And the rad inside

For the intake

I'll probably replace the rear fan with the reservoir/pump

[fierce pivot]

What?

[frail idol]

Yeah

Fans on the outside where the cover is and then the rad inside.

I've done it before

[weary vine]

Thats what the area there is for...

[frail idol]

Ohhhh

Ok that works

But yes I can have two rads in there

[fierce pivot]

Ahh right i see what you mean now ye

[frail idol]

Yeah

Then the front rad takes up less space

Might not be able to use the cover, but we'll see

Also, was wanting to do something a bit... DIFFERENT with the loop

I want to do something unique

I've heard of people using vodka, mineral oil, etc....could I use brake fluid? It doesn't boil easily, doesn't evaporate....

[weary vine]

Just use water like a normal human

Please

[frail idol]

Lol

[weary vine]

You have no idea how much havoc vodka causes

[frail idol]

Really?

[weary vine]

Alcohol degrades plastic

Or discolours it

[frail idol]

True

What about those dyed fluid?

Do those cause harm too?

[weary vine]

Nah

They may stain the waterblock a little

But thats about it

[frail idol]

Ahhh okay

Cause if you said they have like physical colored flakes or something I would've used like food dye

[weary vine]

Well tbh you can

Wont recommend

But you can

[frail idol]

Imma head to #old-cooling since we changed topics

[weary vine]

You dont need to

Its the same convo thats continuing

[frail idol]

Oop

Ok

[fierce pivot]

Just use clean tap water

Or cement

[frail idol]

Cement?

That sounds stupid

[weary vine]

U serious or u joke like cement

[fierce pivot]

Serious, then cement joke

[weary vine]

In that case, clean tap water is a big no no

Algae grows and gets gunky and icky

Clean tap water still has little bacteria and stuff growing in it

[fierce pivot]

Oh true

Need distilled

[stone anvil]

So I am an indecisive person and I hope I am not frustrating anyone. I have been doing some more research into cases. My new build which I am buying piece by piece is https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brcJj2. I had the Case and CPU cooler that were recommended by users here. I want to try and get a tower that isn't overly large. the P500A gets high marks anywhere I look. However I don't anticipate needing the extra room for the sake of having options.

So I guess my question is.... are there any cases that can accommodate the parts that are labeled purchased on that list. I can choose a different CPU cooler if I need to downsize. I think the limiting factors are going to be something that will fit a 3070 Ti FE and having a good enough AIO to cool my 5800X.

This case will likely sit on top of a desk so looks do matter to an extent. Also I will need some RGB whether that's on the CPU Rad or case fans. I can get the case fans separately if the case doesn't come with them.

.
In the end this is going to be my sons first build and I want something he is going to be proud of and likes the look of.

[fierce pivot]

You want a slightly smaller case? P400a, 4000d airflow are nice cases

[stone anvil]

With my limited research I noticed a couple of nice looking ones. Meshify 2 Compact/Meshify 2, Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic and H710. It would need to be fit an ATX motherboard.

[fierce pivot]

H710 is an oven

O11 dynamic is fairly large

Meshify 2 is also nice

And the compact is also nice

[stone anvil]

I liked the looks of the H710 but I don't want looks over decent temps.

so I guess my question is will I see decent temps if I need to go down to a 240 AIO.

Some have suggested front rad mounting isnt ideal. Many smaller cases can only support 240/280 on top.

[fierce pivot]

Bigger radiator in front is better than smaller on top

But 710 is an an awful choice

[stone anvil]

So would I be fine with a Meshify 2 Compact. Configured with a 360 AIO in front and move the 2x140mm fans up to the top. I guess it also has 1 rear 120 mm fan too.

I like the Meshify 2 standard size but I feel like I don't need the extra space or features. Its only advantage I see is top mounting the AIO. Unless I am missing a feature somewhere.

[slate creek]

How does the Lancool II Mesh compare in size to the Meshify 2?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah you would be

[frail idol]

I used to have the 4000D and it's good on cooling

The 4000X does come with 3 RGB case fans

[fierce pivot]

4000d airflow* good, regular is not

4000x is only okay for ppl who have a phobia of mesh

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[stone anvil]

Lancool II Mesh 478mm x 229mm x 494mm
Meshify 2 Compact 424mm x 210mm x 475mm
Meshify 2 542mm x 240mm x 474mm

[blissful sequoia]

For some reason this upper port no longer works on my O11 XL

Some people have been saying a setting in BIOS fixes the issue but I checked the usb settings and everything was enabled.
Not sure if there is some other setting that fixes this issue but I'm hoping one of you guys know

Anything I plug in gets power but does not get detected by Windows

[fierce pivot]

Either the cable/header is dead most likely, what motherboard do you have btw?

[blissful sequoia]

@fierce pivot The crosshair dark hero by asus

it seems to be a very common issue through google searches

example

win 11 issue ?

[fierce pivot]

X570? Try update the bios

[blissful sequoia]

i believe it already is

updated

i'll try to install a windows update brb

[fierce pivot]

Ahh well could just be faulty port on your case

[blissful sequoia]

I built the pc like 4 mo ago :(

[fierce pivot]

Pain

[hybrid robin]

anyone know which one for mb, gpu and cpu?

[mild roost]

The longest one is for 24-pin for your mobo, and the one lower to the right of the psu is for cpu, three on the center are for gpu

Just connect em according to what your mobo and gpu needs

Generally for cpu only one is needed

GPU usually 1-2, or 3

The one to the left is needed too iirc, gotta read the manual lol

Like next to 24-pin

[hybrid robin]

okay got it thank you guys i just have to do my boot drive

and some cable management which i dont wanna do😂

[rich briar]

https://www.amazon.com/HYTE-Revolt-Factor-Premium-Computer/dp/B09HZ2NCNT/ is this a good SFF Case?

[open quartz]

its a good case but also depends on what form factor you want if that makes sense like thats itx but its like a tower vs something thats long like the one you sent before

[sand atlas]

Tom's calls it "The next must-have ITX case."

[open quartz]

if you like the look of the one you sent before, id recommend checking out the Lian Li Q58

if you want something like that revolt and you dont plan on carrying it around like travel or something, also check out the ssupd Meshilicious

[sand atlas]

That brand always looks like it's a gangster snake saying it to me

Sssss'up 'd

[open quartz]

once i do save up enough and decide to upgrade my pc, itll probably be in the meshlicious case i build in unless something better comes out

[rich briar]

I do want to travel with it

[open quartz]

could also look into the cooler master nr200p depending on what gpu youre deciding to throw in there

also i know price point was a problem with the other case costing over $200 but if you really want to, id recommend taking a look at Sliger and their cerberus lineup as theyre pretty customizable and you can opt for a handle on it if you really want but again, theyre fairly pricey

[rich briar]

I think imma wait again. It'll be a while before I'm on a plane again.

Also, it'll be a 3060ti EVGA ftw3 ultra in the case with a 3700x. I want to be able to have an AIO for the CPU with good airflow.

This ain't for the specs in my name lol

I have a large backpack that can hold a case much larger than that. So a handle isn't necessary. But nice to have the option.

[fierce pivot]

I'd go with ssupd meshilicious if you want tower style or nr200 if you want small box style, but why change from your evolve x air?

[rich briar]

It doesn't fit in my backpack

😢

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

[rich briar]

And 120mm AIO only

While that one can have a 280mm

[fierce pivot]

Fair

[rich briar]

Yeee

And the 3700x gets fairly hot with a 120mm AIO

[fierce pivot]

Understandable 120mms aint great

[rich briar]

If it was a 3600 I probably wouldn't mind

[rich briar]

Do you think microcenter does trade ins for CPUs i bought elsewhere? 😅

[fierce pivot]

Probs not lol

[rich briar]

Lol

[urban tulip]

Here's a link to the PSU tier list!
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[weary vine]

@pliant bridge

Also unpin this ig tomie

[weary vine]

@urban tulip u got vintage racer unpinned too

[elfin trout]

comparison sheet is pretty old and pretty barren though

last updated may 2019

[urban tulip]

Yeah sadly that's the most updated one I could find

With that level of detail

[elfin trout]

You're forgetting PSU tier list sources list platform index >:P

[scenic lance]

Hey is this a good case for airflow

https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/100-e2-1000-k0-evga-dg-84-gunmetal-grey-full-tower-gaming-case.html

[fierce pivot]

Looks mediocre

I'd grab a mx330 g air or metallic gear neo air or p360a/p400a

[scenic lance]

Ok so, I am doing a build in the Cougar QBX, which is a SFF case and requires a PUS that is PS2 style (no not PlayStation) but I look and that is not an option as a filter when searching for power supplies on Newegg. Can someone help me out here? The case is here: Check this out on @Newegg: COUGAR QBX Black Mini-ITX Ultra-Compact Pro Gaming Case https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553020?Item=N82E16811553020&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-553-020-_-11072021

[fierce pivot]

Sorry what? Do you mean a sff psu?

Ps2 is a port for old mouse/keyboard

[scenic lance]

Give me a second

https://cougargaming.com/us/products/cases2/qbx/

That is the link to cougar and the QBX case near the middle is states needing a PS2 ATX pay

[fierce pivot]

An sff psu should do

[scenic lance]

Psu

[elfin trout]

Afaik PS2 ATX is just standard ATX

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r6bCmG/cooler-master-masterbox-nr200-mini-itx-desktop-case-mcb-nr200-wnnn-s00 btw this is a nicer case imo and like 8$ more

[weary vine]

Bottom right

Ps2 psus exist it seems

[weary vine]

Yeah it is

[elfin trout]

So yea, standard atx

[scenic lance]

The issue per the instruction manual is the orientation of the socket for the 110/120v plug going to the wall. If you look at the review pics in the Newegg post you will see what I’m talking about

[fierce pivot]

I don't see any review pics but it looks like it should go out the back?

[covert wind]

My prebuilt has some extra hdmi ports that seem to be different from the mobo? What are those tray slots called?

[wanton briar]

DisplayPort?

[covert wind]

Prolly

[elfin trout]

Are they on the back of the GPU or still on the back of the motherboard?

[wanton briar]

Ah that is DVI on top

The other connectors I would guess are DisplayPort

[covert wind]

Yeah i don’t need that. I mean the hdmi.

Aight

Where do you find that on pcpartpicker?

[wanton briar]

Find what?

[covert wind]

Displayport

Or like tray options

Idrk

[wanton briar]

Every modern GPU comes with DisplayPort

[covert wind]

Oh aight

[wanton briar]

You can mess with the filter on PCPP though

Just take a look at pictures of the GPU to look for DP tho

Just remember that this is what it looks like

[covert wind]

Aight and then I’ve never built a pc so how do front ports connect to the mobo?

On say this case.

[fierce pivot]

Just a cable and a header on the motherboard

Works the same on all cases

[covert wind]

Bro a case fan 3 pack is $90? I thought case fans were like 15-20 each.

[open quartz]

well depends on what fans youre looking at

[next terrace]

Depends on the brand I suppose

[open quartz]

5 pack of arctic p12's is $31 on amazon

[fierce pivot]

Get Arctic p12s only the dumb rgb ones are that much, even arctic p12 rgb are like 15$ each

And arctic p12s are one of the best fans soo

No brainer really

[urban tulip]

T30: exists

[elfin trout]

P12: Price exists

[urban tulip]

True

But t30 is where it's at

[elfin trout]

no

p12

[urban tulip]

I mean yeah a 5 pack of p12 is what a single t30 costs but whatever

[next terrace]

Yo I've been hearing a lot of bad reviews lately about DOA Cooler Master MWE 750, anyone know of a alternative for that? 750w gold

[urban tulip]

If you want a different 750, a750gf is a great unit for like 90 bucks on amazon

I'll grab link

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PDZ5ZLT/

[fierce pivot]

exactly

[next terrace]

Dope thanks homie

[urban tulip]

Yeah np

[next terrace]

anyone know what the stock fans that come with the 4000d airflow are? I might pick up a third because it only comes with 2

[fierce pivot]

just grab an arctic p12

[next terrace]

ya know I forgot arctic made case fans

yikes, ty

[fierce pivot]

Np

[open quartz]

also im pretty sure the stock fans in the corsair 4000d airflow, corsair doesnt actually sell

nvm, turns out they do sell them now

when the case came out they didnt sell them before

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but they're meh anyway

[stone anvil]

Is it possible to front mount a 360mm AIO tubes down in smaller cases? Is it a clearance issue for the tubes or a length issue getting to the CPU.

Specifically asking about cases in the 4000D airflow or Meshify 2 Compact size category. I considered the P400A but it doesn't have front USB-C

[fierce pivot]

Basically impossible to front mount a 360 and have tubes facing down, but tubes facing up is better as long as you have the top of the rad above the cpu(it will be) as if any air gets trapped at least it's up the top and not churning around your radiator possibly causing damage and definitely being loud

[stone anvil]

So tubes up isn't going to cause an issue for the lifespan of the AIO? I like the P500A but it is big.

[fierce pivot]

Yep

[stone anvil]

If I front mount an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB should I do a push or pull configuration. Performance wise will it matter or does it just determine where the fan lights show.

[fierce pivot]

Afaik there's not a large difference

[fleet pond]

Really depends on the rest of the fan and airflow setup in your case. Generally, front mounted tends to cause slightly higher GPU temps since the hot air from the radiator is coming back in the case. Top mounted can give higher CPU temps.

The only basic rule to follow is front mounted should be intake

[elfin trout]

Push/pull on the fan really doesn't matter

[hazy forge]

What do you guys do with old computer cases?

[fierce pivot]

I have downcycled mine only on my 2nd case

[sand atlas]

I usually reuse mine for servers and such

[dire turret]

ive resold them and reused them. atm the only extra one i have left is my nzxt 210i. just sits on my shelf collecting dust

[wanton briar]

Depends on how old and if they are good

Usually I repurpose them for servers and spare systems, store them or give them to friends

[next terrace]

I don't think Arctic freezer 360mm is gonna fit in my 4000d

am I doing something wrong

[fierce pivot]

It will lol

You can take out the final part of the PSU shroud coming up to the front

[next terrace]

yeah I took that little plastic piece out

see because I need to switch the fans to the other side for it to be intake

I'm so lost

[fierce pivot]

Send a pic maybe?

[next terrace]

gonna dm so I don't plug chat up

[blissful sequoia]

@fierce pivot Regarding the faulty USB port a while ago, opened the case today to check it out a bit closer and saw the 3.0 header was slightly detached.
All ports now working :)

[rancid grotto]

280 aio fit on top in the fractal meshify 2 compact?

[weary vine]

Yep

[next terrace]

yo pato that aio ended up getting in there but it was such a painful process, had to squeeze fans in and stuff but it's in there now! Arctic liquid 360 is a tight fit in 4000d

[weary vine]

Strange that it was a tight fit tbh

Very nice aio thho

And case

[next terrace]

yeah just getting in the spot was super hard bc I had to take the fans off and move em around to get it in

I'll send a pic in a bit

honestly glad I did it yesterday instead of Sunday when I build the tower

this is my first aio tho and I haven't built a PC in 7 years so maybe I'm just stupid

[fierce pivot]

Probs just a tight fit lol

I'd pros struggle similarly, also have a 4000d, never dealt with aios tho

[little estuary]

Hey guys I’ve narrowed down to 3 cases Corsair 5000D, be quiet dark bass pro 900, and Lian Li O11. What do you guys think of these? Is there such thing as quietest and best airflow case or we need to stick with one direction when choosing a case?

[mild roost]

I would recc 5000D airflow out of all

Or P500A

[sand atlas]

O11 Dynamic would be decent enough for most, but I second Foxy's message

[mild roost]

O11D is only optimal for custom loops tbh

The airflow side of things of the case isn't that great

[little estuary]

Thanks Foxy, but in terms of quietness how’s that? I find that one thing to really have, my Corsair 100d was good at the beginning now I hear all the throttling loading noises and fan noises not sure what’s wrong lol

[mild roost]

It's probably stuff gettin dirty

Gotta clean em

[fierce pivot]

It's fine for aios too

[fierce pivot]

Good, the more mesh and airflow the quieter it will be, although i 2nd the, just try cleaning it out first, if your fans are dying you can get arctic p12s, practically silent but still really good

[little estuary]

Hm ok I never thought of it that way, I thought more openings means sound can leak through. Yeah I’ll try cleaning but I think it’s time for an upgrade since it’s been 7-8 years old

[fierce pivot]

I mean if you still like the case and stuff you don't needa upgrade it

[little estuary]

You’re saying take the old case and build around that? I was either thinking letting my wife use it or sell it lmao

[fierce pivot]

Well i mean if you are still happy with it you can but i mean it's up to you, cases along with power supplies are great for bringing forward (or repurposed)

[ruby yacht]

what power supply should I get if I'm getting a 5600g but looking to upgrade to a rtx 3000 series in the future?

would a cosair cx750m be good?

[fierce pivot]

What 30 series card?