cases-psu-and-cooling

[scenic lance]

How do they accidently ship you an 850w but POG

[fast lily]

NO CLUE but IMMA TAKE IT lol

[summer gorge]

my friend was shipped a 3080 instead of a 3070 at one point

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[scenic lance]

I want that lmao

Insane luck kek

[summer gorge]

ik lol

[scenic lance]

That sounds POG

[summer gorge]

this was a few months ago

[lofty pewter]

5900xt will just be a stopgap for the next gen of CPUs and will barely increase CPU perf

just like how it was for 3900x/3900xt

get a 5900x now or pay a bit extra for a used 5950x in the future

[cerulean obsidian]

Wait wrong channel. Lol

Mis-clicked

[cerulean obsidian]

Kk. Cool. It is one thing in mind that it is an upgrade and not a new build

[scenic lance]

are rog strix psus good?

[sand atlas]

The ones made after 2018 are A tier, good units

Apparently some people had problems with protections tripping, but I doubt that will be a major problem unless you're running it near peak power a lot or you're using a RTX 3080

[scenic lance]

what about evga g3s? there's a ton of good reviews on it but i dont see it on psutierlist

unless im dumb

[sand atlas]

Supernova G3? It's in the list, A tier but "low priority" due to lack of in depth testing

[scenic lance]

ig im dumb

[lofty pewter]

@sand atlas @scenic lance G3 low priority cuz OCP/OPP doesnt really work properly

allowed overload is way too high

130% overload is possible, until caps melt

[scenic lance]

w a t

[lofty pewter]

or until I think UVP sometimes kicks in, but still most likely damaged PSU in the end

[sand atlas]

So, moral here is don't push it too hard I guess

Or else the Supernova Goes Pop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48ozMZP70Y

[lofty pewter]

excellent song for the scenario. Also given the bad OCP/OPP, I'd take a guess that it'd have no issues with Ampere

(provided you dont pair 550w G3 with 450w 3090 + OCed 5950x)

[elfin trout]

Also, it'd probably not be pop, since pop is usually protection kicking in, wack ocp/opp along with no otp is probably going to burn itself

[sand atlas]

That's why the supernova don't stop, weren't you paying attention to the song? lol

[elfin trout]

Smh you expect me to watch a youtube video off mobile data?

[sand atlas]

It's like 240p but you can just look at the lyrics, it fits really well actually

[elfin trout]

Fun

[quasi kraken]

allowed overload is high enough that the unit just dies

before it even triggers

so like it doesn't even have OPP basically

well

it's there

it's just above the threshold where the power supplies kicks the bucket

so its useless

[lofty pewter]

one of the reviewers had it shut off I believe, but because smth else failed like crazy voltage droop

[quasi kraken]

lol one reviewer, forget who it was said they had 3 units which all died during OPP evaluation

[lofty pewter]

but ye, I already knew of dead G3 cuz I knew it was possible to basically melt caps from overload

if you're lucky it doesnt die on extreme overload, probs depends if nice ambient temp or smth

[tacit wren]

missed opportunity here

[obtuse flare]

is this where i would ask for help connecting the front USB and audio ports on my second hand case?

[sand atlas]

You can ask here, sure. What specifically did you need help with?

[obtuse flare]

so my case has this in the front face

oh.. i cant post pictures.... okay.

[sand atlas]

DM it to me

[obtuse flare]

okay

so there is a firewire port i dont need, two sets of usb, and the pink and green audio ports

but on the back are three clusters of pins

[sand atlas]

Do you have the cables for the headers?

[obtuse flare]

They did not come with any cables at all. previous user let me have all the other basic mobo cables but i suspect he never installed any up front either

i came here because I am lacking the vocabulary to find the cables I need.

I thought i had the right ones, but they turned out to be USB 2.0 TO 3.0 adapters and even if they had the right pins they arent long enough

[sand atlas]

I'm sure I can find the cables you need. What does the circuit board say next to each header?

[obtuse flare]

I had all the pics on my phone ready to share. LOL

it gives a series of P numbers, P1,P6, P8 etc

[sand atlas]

@obtuse flare Ok it looks like the middle one is a proprietary connector that combines the audio and USB for some reason, but the right one is a standard USB 2.0 front panel cable like this: https://www.amazon.com/USB-Internal-Motherboard-Header-Cable/dp/B01MQR5BL8
The one on the left is just the firewire

(left to right based on the first pic)

[obtuse flare]

Thanks

I had a feeling the middle would be a lost cause when I saw them all join up 😫

In all my searching I think "Header" was the missing piece of the puzzle.

[sand atlas]

I can find the OEM part number for the middle cable and see if they sell it somewhere in the recesses of the internet still. What model is the computer?

[obtuse flare]

I look foward to plugging thumb drives and phone charges into the front instead of using the Winnie the Pooh USB Hub I got in a rummage.

Model? uhhhh.

[sand atlas]

Start with brand. HP, Dell?

[obtuse flare]

I have seen no branding like that

[sand atlas]

Nothing on the case at all? Not even inside the side panel?

[obtuse flare]

There are decals, but I think they came from the motherboard.

And of course an Apple sticker, because the previous owner is a laugh riot

Steel Series could be the case.

[obtuse flare]

haha nope

oops no urls either

Well now that I know I'm dealing with an Super Flower 201S Aluminum Tower from 2002 I don't feel so bad about not finding the cables.

[sand atlas]

http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/cases/apro_superflower/

Right, I can't find anything about this case besides the fact it existed and that website reviewed it way back when

Looks like you'll be getting a USB headset, I don't think that the weird split cable for this exists any more.

[obtuse flare]

The reviewer I found said "For the front multimedia ports you have to connect the two wires into the back of your soundcard in order to get the front ports to work."

So I think you are right about that.

[sand atlas]

Yep those were the days of add in sound cards being necessary, I do not miss that

[obtuse flare]

I will just have to be on the lookout for set of USB ports that I can wedge in that space on the front of the case.

Until then, I have the Port Plug multipack that I bought in my last newegg order. So I don't forget they're disconnected and try to charge my phone with them.

[sand atlas]

https://www.amazon.com/XT-XINTE-Interface-Desktop-3-5Inch-Expansion/dp/B07G13PDK1/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=hd+audio+front+panel&qid=1615101523&sr=8-11

https://www.amazon.com/C-Zone-Floppy-Earphone-Interface-Adapter/dp/B01KV029F2/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=hd+audio+front+panel&qid=1615101523&sr=8-10

[obtuse flare]

Beauty

[sand atlas]

Those replace one of the floppy bays

First is if you only have USB 2.0, second is 3.0

[obtuse flare]

Well I definitely have USB3.0, the mobo was very proud to label that for me.

[sand atlas]

Well that will make the case downright usable then

[obtuse flare]

yup

Thanks again for the help!

[sand atlas]

No problem! I love digging around for weird stuff like this

[small spire]

Sounded fun :).

[spark ridge]

Alright I'm big confused rn

I have tried two corsair psu - an rm850 and now this rm850x to replace my cheap powerspec 850w and neither will boot

Everything is connected where it should be

But nothing when I hit the power button

It boots with my old 850

[sand atlas]

Is that cable with the red plugs made for that unit? I have a RMx and I don't think any cable plugs are red

[spark ridge]

Oh that's just my old gpu splitter

It's a pcie

[sand atlas]

The internal wiring is probably different from the old unit, you can actually short circuit the power supply using cables not designed for it.

[minor portal]

Korn#1993 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[spark ridge]

Oops

Ok I swapped out some of the cables for the included ones and it powered on

But I yoinked it off instantly

Oh god

It went pop and now smells a little bad

**not the psu

Idk what did

Ohwhwheheh

This is bad

[sand atlas]

Yeah that's a short circuited power supply. You can try to rma it, and make sure to only use the original cables next time, or custom cables designed for it.

[spark ridge]

The psu doesn't smell

It's something in the pc

That does

[sand atlas]

Uh oh

[opal night]

Did you use a CPU cable for the GPU?

[sand atlas]

No he used a cable from his old power supply for pcie

[spark ridge]

I did that at first and no power on

Switched to the new psu's splitter

It powered on

But popped and smelly

I'm kinda lost what I should actually do now

[opal night]

Find the smell. If you can't, double check all your connections, all your cables and all the labeling. Make sure they're all the ones that came with the new psu.

[spark ridge]

Replace all?

I have extensions so

Uh

[summer gorge]

Check if a fly landed on something hot

This is not a joke, this happened to a friend of mine before

[spark ridge]

My glass panel was on

[summer gorge]

Fans

Again, this happened to a friend of mine before

It got in through the fans and burnt on the GPU

Killed pretty much the whole system, somehow

Well, I shouldn’t say somehow

The death of the system was a fire caused by a fly

[quasi kraken]

user error moment

never use power supply cables that aren't made for your power supply

there's no standardization for modular connectors

[spark ridge]

WELP

[spark ridge]

I burnt 3 ML120s and the rgb strip in my gpu block

I own up to being rlly stupid, this is the first time I've swapped a psu

[sand atlas]

Extensions are fine but like gamezoid said, modular cables are not standardized

[grand flame]

Some power cables have components inside the cable that other power supplies have in the power supply itself.

[spark ridge]

@sand atlas yeaaa I realized a huge flaw in that my old Sata>6pin had 4 sata's on it and the new one has 3 per

[steady walrus]

In general do you want your airflow in the case to be neutral?

[zinc flume]

I personally aim for positive pressure.

[chrome iris]

Positive nice

[willow sierra]

What the heck is that? Neutral airflow? Or positive?

"In simple terms, a computer case can either have: Positive pressure – The case fans push more air into the case than then pull out, so there is more air pressure inside of the case. ... Negative pressure – More air is being pulled out of the case than being pushed in, creating a vacuum."

Tho I don't understand why go positive 😄 Adds dust

[sand atlas]

Positive pressure means their more air being pushed into the case than is being exhausted. This repels dust, not adding it.
Truly neutral air pressure would be near impossible to achieve.

[willow sierra]

I guess my cases are all negative. Tho I didn't know that 😛

[sand atlas]

In a high heat environment like a gaming PC you also want more air pressure. More air means more heat dissipation, assuming the air is moving properly of course.

Negative pressure setups tend to pull air through cracks and holes in the case that might not be filtered like PCI slot covers, adding another place for dust to get in.

[willow sierra]

I have no idea how it works, but since it worked for tens of years, I am not going to change it 😄

I mean all my cases were setup like that

[sand atlas]

Sure it'll still work, it just could be more efficient is all

[willow sierra]

I don't know what to say, to me it seems that positive air pressure would add more particles from outside

Since it pulls air from outside.

There are enough fans inside the box on the CPU and the GPU that will contribute to push whatever leftovers enter due to negative pressure

Going positive is inviting all the dust inside

[sand atlas]

It's the opposite. Negative pulls air through less optimal places.

[willow sierra]

Lot less, since it pushes out the air, that's why it's negative: "More air is being pulled out of the case than being pushed in, creating a vacuum."

And for that, there are inside fans that can deal with it.

The definition says that negative pushes out

Positive, pulls in

[sand atlas]

Traditional intake places on cases tend to be filtered, but air being pulled through other places is not

"Creating a vacuum" doesn't mean what you think it means

[willow sierra]

Not going to argue since I ain't a pro :)) Will keep it negative and that's it.

[willow sierra]

I highly doubt you know what I think it means. Unless you are some kind of Mafalda 😄

[sand atlas]

You already said what you think it means

A vacuum will pull from anywhere that it can, air doesn't just come from nowhere

[willow sierra]

I haven't. Let's stop it here.

I said I will keep it negative. That's it.

Topic closed 🙂

[sand atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYHC3DXynM
5:00

Literally says "there's not a single scenario where negative pressure would be desired"

[lethal ridge]

For someone like me that uses electric fan everytime, going negative pressure is more than weird

[willow sierra]

Thank you. I am a negative person =))))

Especially during summer, which is hot here. Not Africa, but still very hot :)) So I will keep being a negativist 😛

The only way I am going to change is if a Noble prize physics candidate or winner would explain me that positive is better =))

[sand atlas]

I'm not trying to say you need to change it, just that it could be more efficient

[wanton briar]

Lmao

[willow sierra]

That I agree.

I don't say it's more efficient the way I use it 😛

[zinc flume]

You can also theoretically have balanced airflow. Say if you had two identical fans in equivalent spots in the case at identical rpms. Practically you'll probably always be a bit more positive or negative I think, but there is a third option to aim for

I aim for positive to try to have more pressure within the case so any air going through seams in the case or pcie slots is going out of the case, not coming in. This is because my front intake is through a mesh and should filter dust better than if I had less pressure inside and air was being pulled in through seams etc

[willow sierra]

I don't want balanced, I want a couple of interior good fans inside the box, so that'd be the CPU and GPU fans, at least 2 if not more, depending on GPU, and all the other case coolers driving air out.

If you have coolers on all walls, better.

I do have that.

[opal night]

All exhaust fans?

[willow sierra]

I mean not side walls 😄

Yes

[rich hazel]

if you dont want dust then have more intake

[opal night]

Uh

all exhaust won't work lol

[rich hazel]

lol

[opal night]

Need intake and exhaust

[rich hazel]

it wont

[zinc flume]

I'm not saying you want balanced, just clarifying that it is theoretically an option

[willow sierra]

For?

I am using them like that for.. a life time?

For tens of years?

[opal night]

If all fans are exhaust, where does the intake air come from?

[rich hazel]

i think positive pressure is better for longevity

[willow sierra]

Why get intake?

[rich hazel]

to get cold air

[willow sierra]

Do I have some pet inside? 😄

[willow sierra]

Good point.

[zinc flume]

Cpu and gpu fans won't do that much to pull air in generally. CPU fans are usually pushing air out and most gpu fans are mostly pushing air around unless it is a blower gpu

[rich hazel]

you need cold air in and hot air out

[willow sierra]

Tho I have never had temp issues

On any sensor

[zinc flume]

I want cool air coming in (intake) hot air going out (exhaust)

[willow sierra]

Also, if outside it's 35 celsisu?

Like in the summer?

[rich hazel]

then get a room fan

and dont die in your room

ll

lol

[willow sierra]

Thanks, but I am keeping it all negative 😛

No point in arguing :))

[elfin trout]

Here's the thing, air has to come from somewhere to exhaust to somewhere else

[opal night]

This is about as straightforward as it gets

[rich hazel]

yeah

[zinc flume]

35c < 60c so relatively cooler

[elfin trout]

@willow sierra so if you don't put intake fans, they have to find somewhere to pull air from, often from weird places

[rich hazel]

with the same logic you can "go" all intake

[willow sierra]

I am not sure what's with this discussion about what am I doing, all I asked is what negative and positive means, cause I was never aware of the terms :))

[zinc flume]

You do you Stefan, I'm just explaining what I aim for and why

[willow sierra]

So everything else is just chat.

[rich hazel]

because the "positive pressure will push air out"

however i do think exhaust is more important

[elfin trout]

Yes, this is about why negative pressure is usually a bad idea

[rich hazel]

i think its better to have one exhaust fan then intake

[willow sierra]

I am not trying to convince anyone the contrary

[elfin trout]

Negative pressure means there's air that's not being pulled in by the intake fans

[rich hazel]

ok but please dont go all exhaust

[willow sierra]

Or to be positive or negative 😛

[rich hazel]

its a bad idea

[willow sierra]

Will take that into account, thank you

[rich hazel]

you can ask nzxt with the h500 and h510 lol

alr

[willow sierra]

Incidentally I have a NXZT box :))

Case

[elfin trout]

Which means your pc is pulling air from places like the PCIe brackets

[rich hazel]

pcie fan 😎

[elfin trout]

Air has to come from somewhere

[willow sierra]

Probably. Although for now I am not going to add any pets into my case 😛

If I may joke.

[rich hazel]

you can joke lol

[willow sierra]

Got to go, thank you for the input. I dully noted that I might not be efficient at all 😛

[rich hazel]

bye

[willow sierra]

Cheers

[vocal tree]

It would be neat to have a case that was just flipped onto its front

[rich hazel]

huh

[vocal tree]

There's cases out there that have that, where your rear io is on top

[rich hazel]

like that one raijintek case on pc building sim

lol

[vocal tree]

Then you'd just have fans on the bottom and top

[rich hazel]

nvm

[zinc flume]

I don't think gravity matters enough in this instance for it to make a big difference

[vocal tree]

Probably not, no

[thick shell]

Hey guys my computer keeps crashing and I don’t know why. It never turns off but it will randomly reboot. I’m thinking it could be a psu issue but I’m not sure. If you have any ideas or could help please let me know!

My screens go black and the audio cuts but the lights and the fans never turn off :/ I’ve had a bunch of people check it out but no idea

[summer gorge]

any indicator lights on MB?

[snow spoke]

^

[thick shell]

I’m not sure I’d have to see when it does it again. If I recall tho there’s a orange light that slowly strobes on the motherboard. I have a video of it happening and I see that light. Not sure what it means

[snow spoke]

what motherboard do you have?

[thick shell]

I have the ASUS Prime B-450 plus

I just looked and it does need an update but I’m not sure if that will solve the problem

[snow spoke]

where do you see the orange light?

[summer gorge]

what CPU do you have

[thick shell]

@snow spoke @summer gorge sorry I had practice! The light shows up in the middle. I have a video of what happens. I can dm it to you!

[snow spoke]

ok that's fine

[brisk jewel]

What good case should i get? 100 or less

[elfin trout]

TD500 mesh, Lian li lancool ii mesh, MX410 mesh-g rgb

[brisk jewel]

Ok thanks

[elfin trout]

P400a too

[clever orbit]

Hey guys I have a unusual request I need a case that the motherboard is an SWTX form factor

its a quad CPU board so its extra large

Form Factor
SWTX
Dimensions
16.48" x 13" (41.9cm x 33.0cm)

Case and Power supply

MB model is MBD-H8QG6-F

[sand atlas]

What socket do you need it to be?

Oh duh you need the case not the board, I'm tired

[clever orbit]

yah its a special board has like 64 cores and 1tb ram so it huge

[sand atlas]

Doesn't look like anything has had that proprietary form factor since 2012 or so. Only Super Micro sold cases for their format.
I seriously doubt you could find a superchassis 850, which appears to be the only supported case for quad CPU (officially). Maybe you could get lucky and find it on some used server hardware website, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
Your best bet would probably be a case mod, take a large eatx case and drill the holes yourself.

[clever orbit]

thanks

[elfin trout]

You'd probably have a better time looking for server racks, looking around various cases, the SWTX form factor is very wide, the depth isn't the issue, but most cases just aren't built for having that wide a board

[lusty maple]

So I landed a deal for a white rog 850 psu from a buddy. 150 bucks unopened. Works with my build. After looking though. It seems on the expensive side, is the asus psu that much better then others? Or is it more expensive cause of the name attached to it?

[elfin trout]

Which PSU?

[lusty maple]

The all whitw rog strix 850

[elfin trout]

It's just good, white adds on to the price, but a comparable PSU in quality (I'd say better than the ROG Strix) is a 130$ Revolution D.F.

[lusty maple]

Well i don't mind paying slightly extra, I've seen a few being scalped for like 400 near me. So when my buddy got his and was going to return it I told him I'd buy it from him haha.

I plan to use it though

But I'm just curious on is the asus brand jsut that much better?

[elfin trout]

@lusty maple Fair, but no, it's just not better, hell, I'd say Revolution D.F. is better for being a multi rail unit at 850w :P

Asus just has brand name behind it to justify the price, nothing else

[lusty maple]

Ok just curious ty ty :)

[spark ridge]

Quick question is this noise bad

The pssstt

Pffffssst

(Rm850x btw)

[scenic lance]

just sounds like coil whine

[spark ridge]

ooo okay

[fierce pivot]

hi, would it be worth my time adding a few fans to the front of my h510 to improve airflow?

[snow spoke]

yee

fans will def help with that case

[fierce pivot]

okay thanks, any recommendations for case fans?

[snow spoke]

how much will you be willing to spend?

you can got cheapo and buy arctic p12's, which are 10 bucks each last time i checked, or 5 fans for 40 bucks

[fierce pivot]

well theres only enough for 3 fans i believe

[snow spoke]

or you can get some a12x25's for that sweet noise-normalized performance

[fierce pivot]

I'd probs need to run some of them off molex power tho cuz only 1 pwm on my board and already have a splitter for that, for the 2 fans in my case

[snow spoke]

you can use a fan hub

[fierce pivot]

okay thanks ill look into it, are they much?

[snow spoke]

lemme check

[fierce pivot]

thanks

[snow spoke]

how many fans will you be using?

[fierce pivot]

2 case fans + 2 or 3 fans at the front, i believe i can fit 3, hold on

[snow spoke]

ight so you can get something like this https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-FAB-10-Port-Splitter-4-Pin-Header/dp/B086W5D5ZT/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=fan+hub&qid=1615307988&sr=8-10 , uses a pwm header to control the fans and receives power from a sata or molex cable

[fierce pivot]

so theres room for 2 fans on the front

would this deep cool one supply enough power i dont see a sata/molex power on it https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeepCool-Control-Supports-Cooling-FH-04/dp/B07LGWHHXV/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=fan+hub&qid=1615308197&sr=8-5

[snow spoke]

you should double check how much power the fan header on your motherboard supports

if it's too much then you'll fry it

if it's alr then youre gtg

[fierce pivot]

okay thanks

[fierce pivot]

the NF-P12's be close enough?

or should i just go with the artic p12's?

[wanton briar]

Arctic P12s are great for the price

[fierce pivot]

better than the noctuas? ik they are like 2x the price but just want an opinion im not that experienced in fans

[wanton briar]

They are not better but $40 for 5 is amazing

They are very good fans

Way cheaper than Noctuas

[fierce pivot]

i only want 2 fans tho, and the non pwm versions are £5.50 each but the pwm versions are like £2 cheaper than the NF-P12's thats why im asking

[wanton briar]

Are you talking about the Redux fans?

[fierce pivot]

yeah

[wanton briar]

I would assume the NF-P12 and the Arctic P12 perform very similiar

[fierce pivot]

the noctua is probs quiter tho right?

[wanton briar]

Most likely

[fierce pivot]

thanks !

[fallow cairn]

it isn't

NF P12 is worse

well NF-F12 sucks and NF-P12 sucks even more

[wanton briar]

What? @fallow cairn

I am not comparing the P12 to the F12?

I am talking about the NF-P12 and the Arctic P12

Obviously the NF-F12 will be better than the NF-P12

[atomic zealot]

hi

guys did you heard anything about azza overdrive

https://azza.gg/azza/products/unlimited/overdrive

[wanton briar]

Hear what about it?

I have read a few articles about it.

[atomic zealot]

supports eatx boards

open frame

engine case

[wanton briar]

What about it?

[atomic zealot]

https://azza.gg/azza/assets/products/unlimited/overdrive/001/4.png

[wanton briar]

I know what it looks like lmao

I have read articles and watched videos on it, I am just confused what you mean by "heard about it"

[atomic zealot]

i mean look at this how pc parts looks inside of it

😅

heart of optimus

[summer gorge]

that really looks like something the PCMR would have

[summer gorge]

yeah

[strange topaz]

is that a heatsink with a pc attached to it?

[atomic zealot]

no what the ... is that

its the size of my room 😂

😂 😭 😅 😂 JayzTwoCents

[opaque axle]

looks kinda small actually

meh, it's a test bench for car nerds

[atomic zealot]

azza sucksdrive

J2C is so farty funny

😅

[sand atlas]

That thing looks crazy, I would totally buy that

[atomic zealot]

[terse cargo]

Same I went to even try to find it lol

[devout yarrow]

can i get a reccomendation of what watt power supply should i use for this i know the one i have is overkill

https://newegg.io/319df19

[opal night]

You're fine

Honestly could do with an 850W

Like, enermax revolution DF 850W

$129

Do you just fine

[fallow cairn]

lol

NF F12 is worse than QL120's

NF P12 is worse than NF F12

and Artic P12 is better than QL120's

easy logic

don't see how it's so hard

[teal flare]

same amount of fans on all tests here?

[fallow cairn]

what

[teal flare]

if not then of course 3 fans is better than one

thats a 3 pack of ql

but then the noctua only says its one fan

[fallow cairn]

interesting how they wrote 3 pack even though they say it's a single component

Could've bought it as a 3 pack and tested it individually too

^ yea they tested it individually

the QL120's and QL120's 3 pack show the exact same performance results

like the SP120 3 pack and SP120 do

in that picture

[fierce pivot]

Those amounts are indifferent to me tbh especially since anyway, wont see rgb and the noctuas are quiet too so

[lofty pewter]

really it's either Artic P12 or GentleTyphoon AP15, Noctua kinda overrated

GT AP15 nicer for longer lifespan and serviceability due to bearing

[elfin trout]

@fallow cairn is it noise normalized or max rpm?

But yea F12 isn't great, a12x25 is where it's at

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but artic p12s dont ship to where i live and neither do the ap15s

And dont want to spend like 30£ per fan

[outer wolf]

O11 mini is good airflow case right?

[snow spoke]

if you have enough fans, it's good enough

[outer wolf]

someone is saying that it sucks cuz the airhas to bend and is choked and want to know if that is the case

[opal night]

Any time air has to turn it slows down

[fleet kestrel]

Does be quiet make good power supply’s?

[opal night]

Some are good, some are bad

Just like all the other brands, some are good, some are garbage

[fleet kestrel]

If I send a model could you tell me if it’s good or not?

[opal night]

yes

[fleet kestrel]

be quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W, BN644, Fully Modular, Power Supply

[opal night]

That's a great one

Why 1000W tho?

[fleet kestrel]

3090 strix oc

[opal night]

Ya, I can kinda see that. That's a top of the line PSU

[fleet kestrel]

And the psu I have rn isn’t really good for my case so I’m returning it

And the only reason I wanna get this one is cause it’s cheaper than the other ones and I heard it’s pretty good

[snow spoke]

that's fair

[opal night]

It's really good, yes

[fleet kestrel]

Welp time to pay that 18 dollar Newegg shipping label fee

And thanks for the help

[clever orbit]

Anyone know a power supply that will work on this board ?

MB model is MBD-H8QG6-F

Quad cpu

[sand atlas]

That uses a proprietary power supply, let me look for one but it is from 2012

[sand atlas]

@clever orbit
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-rm-series-750w-atx12v-2-52-eps12v-2-92-80-plus-gold-modular-power-supply-black/6356248.p?skuId=6356248
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07VF887KN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_G07RQFEFDR3PKPMKZKWP

[summer gorge]

that link

[sand atlas]

I'm on mobile, give me a minute to fix it lol

[clever orbit]

Thanks

[outer junco]

Ok maybe I should ask here. Are there any cases like the ThermalTake H22 Versa? (Lots of drive bays, 2+ 5.25 bays, subtle appearance) Also is there any real difference between the H22 and H21?

[tacit wren]

uhh, you need to use the supermicro power distribution board

Does that live in a case?

[tacit wren]

nooooo, you'll pull way over 750 watts if you put four 16 core opterons in that

Not to mention the ~100w in ddr3 rdimms

You can kinda get away with an atx psu, but nothing consumer will have the three 8 pin 12v cpu connectors the board needs https://i.imgur.com/nypfaBw.jpg

[sand atlas]

Ah you're right, oops I was looking at the 830 model not the 850 for the stock power supply

[tacit wren]

830 model?

[sand atlas]

The superchassis 830 vs 850p4

The proprietary case for that proprietary form factor

[tacit wren]

It really depends on their cpu/ram/gpu/hdd config tbh

But ya, I'd guess it'd be 2x or 4x 23 finger supermicro psu,

[sand atlas]

This is why standardization is good. So we don't have these problems.

[tacit wren]

ngl that board/platform are borderline ewaste in 2021

About 100 for the board and heat sinks, $20 per chip

Now I want to dust that thing off and play with it again

[low scaffold]

whatcha doin with all those opertons

[low scaffold]

good for super cheap vps since its like $1 per core

godaddy does it

[wanton briar]

@tacit wren What board is that?

[low scaffold]

opteron quad socket @wanton briar

iirc from supermicro

[wanton briar]

Which model though

[low scaffold]

looks like this

https://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6000/SR56x0/H8QG6-F.cfm

[chrome iris]

Ok question that I have never known,

If you wanted to use two power supplies in a system is it as simple as just plugging both of them in the system? Or is it more difficult than that?

[elfin trout]

More nuanced than that, iirc you have to start the second psu that's not plugged into mobo first by shorting the 2 pins on the 24pin, then start the power supply plugged into the mobo the normal way

[chrome iris]

Hmm that’s annoying

I want to make a test bench and kinda wanted to put a Xeon in there with an OEM HP Z400 motherboard cause cheap, but those need an OEM power supply and wouldn’t have enough watts to power a lot of GPUs I’d put in there

[scenic lance]

Is aresgame even good?

Can't find any ratings on LTT PS Ulist

[fierce pivot]

There's a way you can use a connector that shorts it for you i believe

Yams check dms btw

[tribal bough]

MY xpg pylon psu came with so many stickers lol

it came with 12

[scenic lance]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C2LVH18/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Get something like this

[scenic lance]

you're egghead now?

nice

[elfin trout]

Yas

[quasi kraken]

thats a horrible price for an rm750 smhing

[quasi kraken]

There are dual 24 pin adapters which combine motherboard 24 pin power connectors, which allows both power supplies to be turned on by the motherboard

[opal night]

Well, that's Best Buy so.....always horrible XD

[scenic lance]

so what i said

smh

[chrome iris]

[quasi kraken]

go back to hating on derpoverty drives like the sn550

[scenic lance]

not my fault ur poor

smh

[sand atlas]

In context though, they needed a power supply capable of supporting 3x EPS 8 pin CPU power cords, and that one has modular ports that can be used for either cpu or gpu power

Sure there's just as good or better units for cheaper, it's that feature specifically they needed

[quasi kraken]

if they need 3 8 pins they can get a revo DF which includes two connectors per cable?

[scenic lance]

silverstone 1200W if you need a ton of 8 pins

[scenic lance]

Hello I'm new here, I'm a graphic designer and I'm looking to build my first pc should I start looking for cases? what are the best new cases for under 200 bucks? thanks in advance

[summer gorge]

join me in #building-and-recc-chat

[scenic lance]

aight

[summer gorge]

send a message there with your total budget

[tacit wren]

The same h8qg6-f that the other guy was asking about

[tacit wren]

You can only do this for stuff that doesn't share a power plane. e.g. one psu for cpu + pcie rail, 2nd psu for the gpu's 6+2 connectors

If you want to use two psu's for the same mobo's cpu, need some kind of power distribution board like servers use

https://store.supermicro.com/pdb-pt825-8824-power-distributor.html

[chrome iris]

id want to have one for CPU + mainboard and my other one only for PCIe connectors

[tacit wren]

ya, either slave the pcie psu with some adapter, or hard-wire it on. It always needs to be turned on first, or at the same time.

[chrome iris]

so one of those dual 24 pin adapters should work?

[fierce pivot]

should do

[chrome iris]

ah wait i just realized i couldnt do that cause my motherboard is OEM agagagaga

[summer gorge]

what company lmao

[chrome iris]

its an HP Z400 workstation mobo

[sand atlas]

It needed 3x 8 pin because it's a quad cpu server board. A single split cable won't cut it when the processors are drawing 500 Watts.

[chrome iris]

has a 24 pin header, but the pinout is different

[quasi kraken]

what processors are drawing 500 watts each

lmao

old xeons and opterons don't do that

max power draw for those is generally in the 80-120 watt range

[sand atlas]

4x Opteron 6386 SE with 140W TDP each

[elfin trout]

Gotcha

[tacit wren]

https://i.imgur.com/2mh0kEp.png

That test was bandwidth starved because only 2/4 channels per chip was filled , but ya can hit > 200w per socket, 32 sticks of rdimms adds up too

[opal night]

So over 800W in CPU alone???

O.o

nuts

[quasi kraken]

revo df will do fine 😎

[waxen rune]

Hi

Sau

[tribal bough]

what do the different 80+ efficiencys do?

[lethal ridge]

better efficiency. that's it

but u can opt mostly for at least the good 80+ bronze if lowend system

[tribal bough]

ye

[coral bear]

They simply mean that the psu you are looking at achieves a base efficiency rating when converting DC electricity from the outlet to AC for use. Higher rankings mean higher efficiency at different loads

[lethal ridge]

midrange at least 80+ gold

but don't always look on that rating

check pins

[coral bear]

Yeah, rating =/= good psu

[lethal ridge]

base there

[tribal bough]

ok thanks

my psu has 80+ bronze i just wanted to know what they do, All i knew was that u should get at least 80+ bronze

[lethal ridge]

yes

what psu

always remember,

[tribal bough]

i got the xpg pylon 550 wat

[lethal ridge]

the thing in looking on the pins is to avoid the ones that'll toast your rig

discord pins btw

[coral bear]

I remember using a Rosewill 1000 watt bronze, with the ketchup and mustard cables and everything. Got it cheaper at the time than other, less overkill psus

[lethal ridge]

uh

as long as no explosion or screaming psu, should be fine

[tribal bough]

yh

[coral bear]

Yeah, but muh efficiency in a place with high electricity costs

[tight folio]

Does anyone have a cost efficient recommendation got an 850W or 1000W psu? Gonna run an overclocked 5950X + 3090

[trail jolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hrqBD3/nzxt-c-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-np-c850m-us

[wanton briar]

Phanteks AMP, Revolution D.F.

[chrome iris]

AMP doesnt have an 850w varaint

[opal night]

Also, AMP is based on the Seasonic platform which doesn't handle the 3080/3090 power transients very well and tends to trip the OCP

[fierce pivot]

I'd say get 1000w if possible but the psu tierliest on the LTT forum should be able to help

[elfin trout]

@quasi kraken got any idea on why the hell all the good 1000w+ PSUs are either oos or overpriced like hecc?

like hxi rmi etc

only thing left is revolt pro

actually capstone 1000w might be decent

[ornate garden]

I'm missing a 4-pin connector compatible for my Rosewill VALENS-500M and can't find anything on Newegg or Amazon. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can find that certain cable?

[opal night]

What does the 4 pin connector power? CPU or GPU?

If CPU, the 8 pin connector should split to make 2 4 pin connectors

[ornate garden]

CPU

[opal night]

Ah

[ornate garden]

I need 6 pin to 4+4 cable but I haven't been able to find anything that I know is compatible

[opal night]

wait

There's an 8 pin cable

That splits into 2x4 pin

for the CPU

[ornate garden]

That unfortunately won't work because the PSU is a 6 pin :(

[opal night]

that doesn't make sense, 6+2 pin is for GPU

Does your motherboard have an 8 and 4 pin CPU power?

If so, you only need the 8 pin

This is from the manual for your PSU

What motherboard is this?

[ornate garden]

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac

one sec taking a pic

[opal night]

Ah, you only need the 8 PIN Cpu power to be plugged in 🙂

The 4 pin isn't needed

[ornate garden]

Can I send you the pics through DM?

[opal night]

Ok? I checked the board though, it only needs the 8 pin CPU power as shown here

2nd picture

[ornate garden]

Ok

[empty token]

You wouldn’t be able to do a pcie power to cpu power

[opal night]

nah, it's good

Problem is somewhere else

[lofty pewter]

probs because to ease the PSU shortage companies killed off rarely bought PSUs

[sand atlas]

Not without a specialized cord since EPS and PCIe cords have the ground/12v reversed from each other

[empty token]

Oh ok

[sand atlas]

Plus the PCIe one has a "sense" pin in place of one of the grounds

[coral bear]

Isn't that only the pre-2019 Seasonic platform? I though they re-released their psus that had similar problems with other graphics cards

[opal night]

No, FOrks said it's a thing even with newer Seasonics

[coral bear]

Oh jeez, guess I can never get a 3080 then

[cerulean obsidian]

you're somewhat better off waiting for that cryptocurrency crash to get a 3080 or what you would like.

[lofty pewter]

I believe SS fixed it just with incap cables or smth

Which has their limits if so

might be misremembering the fixes tho

[coral bear]

Wasn't that v2 Focus? I though they changed the psu itself for v3 and got rid of the incap cables

[elfin trout]

interesting, I thought that passed

[lofty pewter]

I do not know, been a while since I looked into it

[coral bear]

"The newly upgraded FOCUS PX and GX series are the successors to the FOCUS PLUS Series, which became an instant top seller in the power supply market after its launch in 2017. In 2019, Seasonic engineers have made improvements to the popular series such as removing the inline capacitors on the supplied cables"

That is from Seasonic's page on the Focus PX

[unique pilot]

The main thing they fixed is the OCP or OPP not tripping with high transient gpu's

[tacit wren]

Pretty sure it's just my seasonic that's borked

[grim harbor]

Hey y'all. So I bought a new case (https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16811353206?Item=N82E16811353206) and to my surprise the fans were not plugged in the motherboard like my previous case but like molex to PCIe (I think? I suck at this) .

Anyway I bought one such cable (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01DV1Z22K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and my PSU didn't like it. I checked if it was because it drew too much power by testing it with my GPU unplugged and that wasn't it.

I can't afford to keep buying parts until I find the proper one so if anyone can suggest a solution or a good quality cable that will not kill my PSU, or whatever

[sand atlas]

That cable you bought is to convert 2 molex connectors into one PCIe connector for GPU power

[grim harbor]

ah

Can you point me to one that does what I need?

[sand atlas]

Snap a picture of the connector and DM me since I don't think you can post it yet

Yep that's just molex, should plug right into your power supply. If you have modular cables look for the one that fits the connector.

[grim harbor]

None fits

[sand atlas]

That will plug into the PSU, the fan plugs into that

[grim harbor]

ugh I think I lost these

[sand atlas]

They have replacements, let me find some

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/HX-TXM-Series™-Molex-peripheral-cable-with-4-connectors-compatible-with-HX750%2C-HX850%2C-HX1000%2C-HX1050%2C-and-all-TXM-PSU/p/CB10HXPE4

[grim harbor]

Thank you I love you stranger

[sand atlas]

Happy to help

[echo socket]

I'm swapping my PSU rn (CX550M -> EVGA 750B2) and I can't seem to turn on my PC.

It was running fine with just mobo and CPU power (m.2 ssd booted into windows) but when I connected my two SATA drives it now does nothing when I press the power button.

I've unplugged the SATA power cables from the PSU and still I get nothing when I press power. Not even debug LEDs or fans spinning.

weirdly enough the Ethernet light is still blinking

[echo socket]

I got it to boot again with just one of the SATA power cables plugged in

Yeah the moment I plug the other one in, it dies.

huh. used a different cable and it works now.

[opaque axle]

are you using cables that didn't come with that power supply?

[echo socket]

I think so yeah

Been a few years since I've had these two. Just been too lazy to swap em.

[tight inlet]

yo should i get the MPG A750GF or the ROG Strix 750?

[scenic lance]

Is it normal for EVGA PSUs to make a noticable whirring sound when put into Eco Mode?

[summer gorge]

Which EVGA PSU?

Also are you sure that whirring isn’t just the fan?

[finite agate]

For those interested, my EVGA 750 BQ suddenly stopped working overnight like 3 weeks ago. Just got the RMA back

Turns out, as i suspected, a capacitor blew up

Dunno who all wanted to hear back from me, but if ya know, ya know

[edgy tiger]

Is there any chance a PSU could catch fire plugged in but turned off

[sand atlas]

A bad PSU, yes

[edgy tiger]

How about a psu from a 1994 compaq presario

[sand atlas]

Yikes, I don't think they even had off switches then and they still weren't auto 120/240 input voltage sensing

Definitely a possibility

[edgy tiger]

Well then

That explains the burning dust smell

[sand atlas]

Burning dust smell is probably from a short circuit. Dust is conductive, so if enough builds up and it bridges a connection, boom.

[edgy tiger]

Honestly it is a very clean machine

Have seen computers half the age be a lot more dusty

[sand atlas]

What about the inside of the PSU though?

[edgy tiger]

Well it didn’t spray me with dust, thats a good sign

[sand atlas]

You can open it, it's not like it'll void warranty lol

[edgy tiger]

Its a nice comapq

Dump find

Pulled that and a mac mini

Running 3.1

[sand atlas]

Can you tell what processor it is? Probably 133 MHz or something

[edgy tiger]

486dx

Whoever had it before me left a bunch of games that run slow as hell on it

Played jeopardy and won

[sand atlas]

25, 33, or 50 MHz then
You might be able to find a vintage collector for that if you clean it up

[edgy tiger]

Where? Also have a hulk of a computer that I dont even have a monitor for

Its from a company called corona

Pre- 386 days

[sand atlas]

Ah never mind they're going for $10 on ebay

Not quite vintage enough, or not rare enough

[edgy tiger]

What about the corona?

Its very old and very rare

[sand atlas]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_Data_Systems

That?

[edgy tiger]

Looks very close to this

Need to do something w it

Rn its a nice testbench for my ddr2

(Its the bench not the PC)

This thing is like 4 times my age holy hell

[sand atlas]

The most I'd say it's worth is $50 if it can boot. If no boot disk or nor power, near worthless. These were pretty common apparently.

[edgy tiger]

Really, ok

Now i am itching to do a sleeper build in it

[sand atlas]

Now that would be a fun project. It's certainly got the space in the case, do some mods to fit modern ATX stuff...

[edgy tiger]

Time to get the tools out

Actually quick question

What is the best way to sell scrap PC parts for gold collection

I have a bunch of MOBOs, CPUs, RAM, cards

[opal night]

hardly any gold in them

About $10-$15 worth

[sand atlas]

Yeah, breaking it down to component metals is more expensive than the metals are worth

[opal night]

Cost you more in Nitric Acid to extract it than the gold is worth.

[edgy tiger]

Well

I have a lot

Not just 1

[opal night]

Understood but still, it will cost more to extract than you'll get out of it

[edgy tiger]

Ok, thx.

[sand atlas]

http://therefiningcompany.com/We-Buy-Whole-Computers.aspx

They only take a minimum of 1000 lbs for a shipment

[opal night]

If there were a way to make money doing it, we wouldn't be shipping it out of the country to be processed

[scenic lance]

you needs tons and tons of components to profitably recycle

[vocal tree]

Make a sick funeral build with all the best dead parts and then have it recycled because they only buy whole computers

[willow sierra]

So I was thinking that for a quiet setup, I should buy "be quiet! SILENT BASE 802", but now just before ordering it, I am not sure if getting another case, and buy silent quality fans, is a better option 😄

Advice?

Or should I get it and also get silent quality fans? 😄

[umbral hazel]

I'm looking for a decent LGA 1200 socket ATX form factor case with pre installed rgb fans and can hold a liquid CPU cooler under $80. Ping me

[fierce pivot]

Are you looking for the case or motherboard?

[umbral hazel]

Case

[fierce pivot]

Colour preference?

[umbral hazel]

RGB lighting blue case?

[fierce pivot]

Okay I'll see blue cases aren't that popular tho

And what size radiator does the cooler have?

@umbral hazel

[umbral hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fLFKHx/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-v2-6559-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a18pc-r2

@fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

Yeah having a look for case now

[split saffron]

how i can know my case name ?

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011174-ww https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9N4BD3/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-kann-s01 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZCFf7/cooler-master-masterbox-mb520-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b520-kgnn-rga all look good

[split saffron]

and size

[fierce pivot]

Show us a pic?

Looking for any logos you see will help too

[fierce pivot]

@umbral hazel

[umbral hazel]

I like the first 2

Cyber master

I think

[split saffron]

yes

but what is the size

[fierce pivot]

Well it looks like it's atx but idk the brand

[split saffron]

atx or micro atx

[fierce pivot]

Looks atx

[split saffron]

cuz the MB

micro

i am thinking to buy atx

[fierce pivot]

Can you send a better pic so we can see mobo

[fierce pivot]

Only bother getting an atx board if you're doing a cpu upgrade too

[split saffron]

the MB is asrock b460m pro4

[fierce pivot]

But can you send a pic of it in the case so i can see where it stops to tell if the case is atx

[umbral hazel]

Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case is over 80

[fierce pivot]

Pretty sure it's atx but just to check

[fierce pivot]

Yeah ik it's like 10 over you said around 80 so

[umbral hazel]

The second one looks good

[fierce pivot]

It's legit 5$ more lol

[split saffron]

k

[fierce pivot]

Well they all should be fine, there's better but you wanted ones that came with RGB fans

[split saffron]

check this

is it ok ?

cuz glass

[edgy tiger]

@fierce pivot well that looks to me to be a cooler master case

With some mods for cyberpower

[fierce pivot]

It looks like it's an atx i think, but unless you're getting a new cpu don't bother getting new mobo

[fierce pivot]

Not 100% sure if it is atx tho kinda hard to see

Ahh

[summer gorge]

I spoke with him about this in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

Convo is over already

[edgy tiger]

Looks exactly like the mb511

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay

[summer gorge]

I told him basically he shouldn’t waste his money but if he does then get the B560m Pro4

[split saffron]

so what i should do 😦

@summer gorge if you have my PC what you will do if i give you around $260

or any one suggest

[summer gorge]

Sell the PC and build my own

[fierce pivot]

You should only buy a new mobo if upgrading cpu

[fierce pivot]

Mb add 8gb ram idk but not really anything else you can do with it

[split saffron]

so i buy 32gp ram with 2666mhz

and that's it?

no MB or any thing

[summer gorge]

#cases-psu-and-cooling message

[fierce pivot]

If there's ram that's cheaper at higher speeds you can just get that

[summer gorge]

You know that you can underclock the RAM, right?

[fierce pivot]

True

Usually 3000mhz would be cheaper than finding 2666

[split saffron]

what this mean ?

[fierce pivot]

You can by ram for higher speeds but run slower

[summer gorge]

If you get 3600mhz RAM then you can just clock it down to 2666

[split saffron]

but i will not benefit

[summer gorge]

You might

If you can clock it higher

My B450-f officially lists 3200mhz speeds but I could clock my RAM up to 3600mhz easy

[low scaffold]

whats going on here

[opal night]

B460 will not overclock ram

Need B560 for that

[summer gorge]

Will it not?

[opal night]

No

[summer gorge]

Aw shucks

[low scaffold]

id get b560

[summer gorge]

He already has the board tho

That’s the thing

[split saffron]

at laaast

[low scaffold]

id get a new board

[split saffron]

someone know my PC

[summer gorge]

He bought a cyber power prebuilt with outdated parts (except the CPU)

[opal night]

The board will not go above 2666 with an i5/i3

[split saffron]

tell them vin

[opal night]

Not telling anything

[low scaffold]

i know more than vintage

[opal night]

I'm not sure it's worth spending $250 for a new board and ram, that's up to you

[low scaffold]

about three entire things

[split saffron]

so

[summer gorge]

^^^

That’s what I keep saying

[split saffron]

what do you suggest

[low scaffold]

what are they even trying to do

[opal night]

SPend money

[low scaffold]

yeah but on what

[opal night]

That's their question

[low scaffold]

probs cooler upgrade depending on their cpu

[summer gorge]

It’s stock cooler on 10400f

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and maybe larger ssd

im guessing they have like

240gb

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no 500

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nvme or sata?

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m2

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not that it makes much of a difference

m.2 is a form factor

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i think nvme

u mean ssd?

or HDD

or other thing

cuz i am new in this

[summer gorge]

SSD

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id make sure it has at least 16gb of dual channel ram, maybe a better cooler, then id save the rest of the money for a better gpu down the line

although is cyberpower prebuilt so am guessing the psu is a bomb

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They already have the pc tho and want to upgrade from b460 to b560

[opal night]

Dual channel ram will do more for you than increasing the speed

Since that system only has 1 8 GB stick

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get a 16gb kit and be happy :))

or even another 8gb stick

[scenic lance]

all the b-die kits oos

i have to buy 334$ 2x16 kit

smh

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buy the one adata meme kit

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374093?Description=2x16 c14&cm_re=2x16_c14-_-20-374-093-_-Product

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088D9Z6DM

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WHAT IS THAT

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what u dont like 4133mhz?

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CPU i5 10400F
GPU 1660s
MB asrock b460m pro4s
RAM 1*8gp 2666mhz
SSD 500gb
HDD 2T
PSU unknown

those my PC spec @low scaffold

@summer gorge @opal night

so what is should do onlly

so i have end of this

[summer gorge]

-_-

I told you already

Lili’s suggestions were better tho

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upgrade cooler to gammax 400, get 16gb of 2666mhz ram

if you dont need more space dont get more space

and youll be fine

if you dont have a good keyboard/mouse/display id look at getting that taken care of

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the cooler not good ?

[low scaffold]

all you really need is dual channel ram

its a stock cooler

not the best

[summer gorge]

Intel stock cooler

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id say its worth $20 to not have to worry about it

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there is nothing wrong with that build other than the ram/mobo

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^^^^

its a good pc

ram needs a change

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mobo is optional

just ram needs change

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ok so if i get 32gb ram it will be ok

even if more than 2666

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why 32gb on a 10400?

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not one time for future

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if you're spending that much money i would just buy a b560 along with it

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so i dont buy many times

:"(

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just get 16gb

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ok

and cooler?

only gammax 400 or there is other things

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just gammax 400

do you have a good keyboard/mouse?

[fierce pivot]

Or whichever speed is cheapest tbh usually 3000 cheaper

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same what comes with th pc

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https://www.keychron.com/

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no

i need with numbers

and wired

[fierce pivot]

Upgrading your mouse would make a huge difference as well

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i fine with the keyboard and mouse

i think it is good mouse

[fierce pivot]

Okayy....

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maybe use the site?

[fierce pivot]

I think they thought you were linking a specific keyboard

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https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31871624183897

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that mouse isnt good lul

[fierce pivot]

You can get an abs system with those specs for like 600 or so

[opal night]

$600? big doubt.

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no

this is not what i bought pric

e

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Well roughly

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but yeah lol if youre a numpad degenerate then keychron has keyboards for you

[opal night]

Nah $900 https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali491/p/N82E16883360086?Description=ABS computer&cm_re=ABS_computer-_-83-360-086-_-Product

$700 for a non super card https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali477/p/N82E16883360072?Description=ABS computer&cm_re=ABS_computer-_-83-360-072-_-Product

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$679.99

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and its sata ssd

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this is the prive

price

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and no hdd

and no epic gamer keyboard

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and then they give me back 100$

so 579.99

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not good deal ?

😦

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https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali477/p/N82E16883360072?item=N82E16883360072

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THAT CASE

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Ohh nvm lol

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[opal night]

I posted that. However, it doesn't have an NVME nor a 1660 Super

Elsaad's PC has a super

[fierce pivot]

Yes just saw that my b

[opal night]

All good

There's really no apples to apples with ABS

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huge trust for that psu

[opal night]

I'm also really disappointed in Build Redux now

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why

[opal night]

Cheapest PC is over $1k

They upped prices

:/

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makes sense

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They have a r5 3600 1660 ti for 800 ntb

[low scaffold]

they were cheap because they werent well known

now theyre well known

so theyre more expensive

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But they are owned by digital storm

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Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is this good cooler?

[opal night]

Not when others exist

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and DS distanced themselves from it to make it seem smaller

[fierce pivot]

Id cooling se 224 xt, gammaxx 400

[fierce pivot]

Yeah fair, well i heard bout them originally from linus and he was like digital storm owns this XD

[low scaffold]

why would they cannibalize their own company?

[fierce pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ true

[low scaffold]

the thing is

DS has a supply of parts

if you use DS directly

you pay a lot more for the system

vs redux

so ofc any new gpus they get

go to DS direct customers first

then maybe trickle down to redux

[fierce pivot]

Hmm that's fair

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i found these 3

[opal night]

Gammax or ID Cooling Basic

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then basic is cheaper

[fierce pivot]

The se 224 is 30 I'd get rhat

[opal night]

I have it cooling my wifes 10600K and it's working great

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soo i done with this

is it will be much different if 16 or 18 cas?

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get 16

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ok

and only 16gb is enoght

no more

[fierce pivot]

Yeah just get 16gb

Or tbh you could just add 8 you don't need 24gb

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speed 3000 or 3200 or 3600?

can run 3 stick?

[fierce pivot]

Yes you can but i would only bother getting 8gb of ram

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Whichever cl16 stick is cheapest

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3200 since youre only running at 2666 anyways

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k

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Yeah but I'd just get 8gb cuz you already have 8

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i need any thing ?

more

no

it will be different brands

[fierce pivot]

You won't need 24gb ram

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i will remove the old one

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Doesn't matter tbh but okay

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the mhz and brand and cas may be different

and the same brand dont sell one stick alone

thats y

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MHz doesn't matter, you can check what cas you're pc has atm

It's prob cl16

And it doesn't matter that much whose ram you buy

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where i can find

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This would be better anyway https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bl2k8g30c15u4w

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Hardware tools

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here?