graphics-cards

[odd siren]

Also

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/deleted-fixed-bad-connection.305755/

Depending on the nature of the issue it's either forced on or forced off

Ok I think I've searched enough webpages now

If any of these fixes don't work it likely needs a repair

That's the only other solution I can find - broken mosfet

Results in an entire mainboard swap which if it's out of warranty isn't worth sending to msi over

Easier to buy a multimeter and locate it to replace/send to a repair shop to do specifically that if you can find the problem child

It shouldn't be in a decrepit state though

Not unless the core is gone

Which is probably not worth fixing

Fixing a mosfet is a little tricky but it's a lot less expensive than replacing the whole thing

[heady plover]

The issue with the driver install does seem to be its lack of windows 11 support

[odd siren]

Well I could believe that

[heady plover]

Because only ones that claim to have 11 support work

Ones that don’t aren’t working

[odd siren]

Ok

So you tried a really old win 11 one?

[heady plover]

Kinda? I have no idea how old the one I tried is

I just know it wasn’t one of the recent ones

[odd siren]

Like this

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/177779/en-us/

[heady plover]

It seems the one I installed just now forces me to install gfe 💀

[odd siren]

We can easily nuke that

Just keep gfe off as best you can

[heady plover]

Yep

Gpu still believes it’s sucking 752 watts

Actually now that I look at it it isn’t detecting anything on the Gpu but power

Heat isn’t detected

Gpu clock rate is still 210 tho

[odd siren]

Still trying the fixes?

[heady plover]

says it isnt supported

and yeha

[odd siren]

Nvidias website not helping at all smh

[heady plover]

yep

i contacted their like support and honestly they dont seem to really understand what im saying

[odd siren]

It even says it's supported on the website

[heady plover]

and they assume incomitence instead of believing my word x_x

they asked me three times if i had the performance mode on for sure

[heady plover]

lemme try to restart ig

[odd siren]

I'm really surprised it's not working

The 3060m is 6 months old at the time of that driver

Lmao

[heady plover]

I think the Gpu wasn’t detected correctly

I’m trying again

[odd siren]

And windows 11 is only 2 months away

Alr

[heady plover]

Cuz it shows up properly in device manager and task manager now

[odd siren]

Alr

Disable/enable in device manager can make it redetect as well

[heady plover]

Aw man didn’t work lmao

Disable what though

[odd siren]

The gpu

Right click

3060

[heady plover]

Alr

[odd siren]

It disables the driver

Then you reenable it

Windows uses a basic driver when no nvidia driver is present

[heady plover]

I’ve been telling myself “just 30 more minutes of testing” for three hours

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[odd siren]

Lol

Well the better outcome is one of these things could trick the card into working again

Otherwise it's the other common factor which is warranty/mosfet repair

[heady plover]

Smh still doesn’t work

[odd siren]

Maybe we just stick to recent/semi recent then

Seems like it just doesn't want to try

[heady plover]

I’m starting to feel that it is a hardware issue

Well I still havnt done the vbios stuff

But

Man

[odd siren]

There's a ton of Reddit and techpowerup threads about this

I could sit all day combing the same answers

Those were the most common ones I saw tho

[heady plover]

Welp looks like imma have to put that off for tommorow

Would highkey be unfortunate if it is a hardware thing

[odd siren]

Could at least say you've done most of the gamut though when you try and get it repaired/warrantied

[heady plover]

What is gamut 💀

[odd siren]

Range

Spectrum

[heady plover]

Ah

[odd siren]

Suspect ram

Hey mate, would you be willing to try doing some light testing by swapping between those two psus for me

I don't want to endanger the cpu (nay, put limits on it after some controlled tests and keep it safe)

So the choice is yours

We talked about it tho

Heard the same story from someone else that this change fixed their cpu too so a repeatable circumstance would make things very concrete

[drowsy mirage]

Yeah, I’m willing to run some tests, I’ll reset my bios and run a few when I get a chance

[stiff valley]

Just got a new 7900 xtx and I’m trying to figure out how to install it. The guide that came w the card says to “screw the card into the case with screws” but I don’t see anything I could put a screw in. I also am not sure whether i need 2 or 3 pcie cables connected. From what I’ve found online it needs 2 but this card has 3 pcie slots

I could really use some wisdom before I mess something up

[random walrus]

The bracket of the end of the card, with the displayport and HDMI, should have a small section bent at a 90° angle. You'll screw through that into the case to hold the card in place

And I believe all the pcie power connectors on the gpu should be filled. If you can, each with its own cable; if not, a daisy chain

[stiff valley]

@random walrus i got it all figured out thank u man

[heady plover]

Finally home. Man it feels so nice to have a working desktop with multiple displays instead of a laptop with 1 hour of battery life

[vital oriole]

https://videocardz.com/newz/cancelled-geforce-rtx-4070-with-7168-cuda-cores-and-10gb-memory-emerges

What the 4060ti could've been..

Same cuda as 4070S tho

So ig this was OG 4070?

But still

Let a guy dream

[odd siren]

"We have a 3080 tier in our next gen 4070 but couldn't release it because of vramlets"

[vital oriole]

So true

10GB 4070 would've been so good if vramlets didn't exist

Because of the core alone

[odd siren]

This could create the lore that the 4070 would've been not bad in performance if they stuck to less vram chips

[vital oriole]

And whatever we have for 4070 in reality could've been a 4060ti

[odd siren]

Yeah

[vital oriole]

[odd siren]

That makes way too much sense tbh

[vital oriole]

true

Even AMD would scramble if nvidia dropped such a bomb on the market

[odd siren]

Would've had a nearly lineup-wide generational leap that made decent sense

[vital oriole]

I hate that arc has potential but dragged down by drivers

[odd siren]

Also explains why the 4070S could launch at the price it did

I can't let myself be convinced of that tho, it's all conjecture

It's very believable however

[vital oriole]

Perhaps

Tho the 10GB is 160 bit

idk if that matters

[odd siren]

it's more than 4070

Think about this definitively

[vital oriole]

Isn't 4070 192?

[odd siren]

Oh nvm ur right

Maybe that changed due to the vram increase

Isn't 4060TI like 128 bit?

[vital oriole]

I just wonder how much of an effect that did

Lemme check

Ya it is

[odd siren]

$500 3070 beat the halo tier choice of last gen, $700 2080 8gb and nearly matched the 2080TI
New $600 4070 comes out, beats last gen (As the usual trend goes), almost matches 3080TI and delivers the same vram as 3080 10gb, adjusted for price inflation

[vital oriole]

mhm

[odd siren]

the 160bit bus makes a ton of sense here

[vital oriole]

I agree as long as it doesn't impact perf too much

[odd siren]

If you consider the circumstances, they may have backtracked the 4070 to add more vram

At the time hogwarts was running like ass on 12gb

And 40 series was just dropping

It makes so much sense

[vital oriole]

blame the game, not nvidia

[odd siren]

Blame vramlets

[vital oriole]

jk but damn

that seems reasonable

[odd siren]

As a result we got a way worse card stack

In the lower end

All because of one game

Wtf

[vital oriole]

4060ti 16gb 😭

[odd siren]

Ironically a card that can't even use all of it either

[vital oriole]

right

[odd siren]

Jfc that explains so much in why Nv this gen sucks ass

OR

SPIN THIS AROUND

4080 12gb never changed name

This sku is 4070 Ti

And so yeah

This means the birth of the super lineup

That makes a ton of sense too

There's way too much possible story behind that card

[vital oriole]

mhm

We couldn't know exactly

[odd siren]

Almost want to buy it just to put it on a wall tbh

[vital oriole]

Because it's all just leaked works

Artifacts of "what-ifs"

[opal iron]

why does the coil whine sound this bad holy crap

I left the pc on overnight to download a game and now its making this awful sound

[fierce hull]

Hey guys, is the morecoco website safe and reliable ?

[livid idol]

Never heard of it. Is that a .com or something else?

[livid idol]

From what I can see they're unreliable, frequently selling things they don't actually have in stock. From what I can tell it's not obviously a scam, just a poorly managed business.

[latent cove]

is my gpu dying?

[mellow glen]

Alrighty, installed the cable and also tested without UPS but unfortunately still having the same issue :/ what are other steps, return/get replacement and hopefully the issue is with the card? lol

or is there anything else you can think of

[livid idol]

It's about time to start swapping parts yeah

[livid idol]

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[balmy magnet]

Quick question: left LED on EVGA FTW3 3080 is lit red, we have tried with multiple PSUs, in 2 diff systems, 2nd of which is using the same model of card just fine. Any ideas what might be wrong, and ideas to correct it?

[livid idol]

LED as in the one telling you if the power cable is in correctly?
Does switching the power cable move the LED or is it always on the same one?

[balmy magnet]

always the 1st of the 4, the one not over any of the PCIe cables

[livid idol]

Ok sounds like you've just got a dead LED. That would be a warranty issue.

[balmy magnet]

there is no video output either, sorry i forgot to mention. Monitors just stay on "no signal".

[livid idol]

I maintain that it's something EVGA has to deal with. Especially since you've tried it in 2 separate systems.

[balmy magnet]

Sounds good, I just wanted to make sure me forgetting to mention something did not change the advice, I will have him reach out to them tomorrow

[mellow glen]

that’s a fat rip, hypothetically if the new card has the same issue what type of hardware issue could it be since the 3080ti had no issues ?

but for sure appreciate it will report back after replacement is here lol

[livid idol]

The power supply would be my next choice for things to swap

Transient spikes can trip power supply protections faster than overloading it

[quasi flicker]

Would a Quadro be better at transcoding than a gaming card?

I have a workstation with a Quadro P1000 that I would like to move my media server to, it's not the best but I figure since it's only doing that it might be fine

It also has two Xeons which might be better

[livid idol]

Short answer: no

[latent cove]

I have reinstalled my drivers

[grave fjord]

is it worth spending $100 for a gre vs 7900xt?

[livid idol]

It's usually the other way around, the XT costs more than the GRE.
And no, it's not really worth paying more for the XT because you can overclock the GRE in 5 minutes and have it be within 5% of the performance.

[grave fjord]

alright

thats what i meant i flipped it around

like to spend the $100 more and get the xt i don't know why i worded it like that

[lilac cave]

I don't trust those bottleneck calculators so I was gonna ask some people here...
Would a Ryzen 7 5800X be sufficient enough for a 7900 GRE?

[tender mulch]

Yes

Never trust bottleneck calc, they're garbage

[livid idol]

The 5800X is definitely good for that, especially at 1440p or higher

[lilac cave]

K. Thanks guys!

[lilac cave]

I will keep that in mind. Lol

[junior locust]

Honestly it's surprising how old a CPU you can still use with modern GPUs

I've seen someone roll with a 2nd gen i7 and a 3070 and it was pretty good

[edgy onyx]

bottleneck calc said i had a 17% bottleneck with my 5 7600x and 4070 super but after some research im pretty sure its not a problem

[livid idol]

The thing is, did it ever explain what that bottleneck means? Probably not, and they're just throwing arbitrary numbers around like they're common sense.

It's impossible to have a system with no bottleneck, and what component is the bottleneck will vary even by what game you're playing. Sometimes the game engine itself is the bottleneck.

[limber flax]

This 58003dx is 6925% bottlenecked by this 2060 because I say it is

I'm going to assign random discrete values up to 100 to each part I have in my python program, and make it do really easy percentage calculations to make it seem like what I'm doing is useful

[odd siren]

?bottleneck

[neat venture]

"TL;DR Bottleneck calculators take massive generalisations and will cause someone to almost completely miss the entire snapshot of the performance that they wanted to know in the first place.

Bottleneck calculators are a commonly searched tool on the internet to make a generalised comment on a pairing of hardware for things such as games, workstation software, rendering and the like.

Bottlenecks are regarded as a limit for a pc in a given task, and each different workload, each different game, each different task may and will push a pc to a limit in a certain way, and it's never the same way. Some games will push the cpu to a limit, most the GPU, some the ram, etc.

Bottleneck calculators try to generalise this and this is why you should never use them. It isn't a true outlook of the hardware you'd be working with and doesn't give you a real take on the performance, especially when you consider your own individual needs. Some bottlenecks are good for example, a lot are expected and normal, some are caused by the application itself and don't bring out the full pc performance either, the games or apps you use might be very specific and unique in their behaviour and have an entirely different realm of performance altogether."

[tender mulch]

Never, ever, ever use any kind of bottleneck calc. 😉

[ivory herald]

2060 isn't the bottleneck anyways, even if it obviously influences overall game performance.

[hexed forge]

Question, how do people feel about this GPU?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0985X2YR1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

My mom bought it on sale for $260 for me randomly lol. It's def better than the 970 I'm running 😅 Just curious what the consensus is for this card at that price point

[keen nacelle]

Very overpriced

6750xt is around 35% better and was $10 more on prime day, or 7600 has been ~$250 for a while and around 20% better

Assuming just gaming anyways

[hexed forge]

Ah, oh well. Free to me. Plus im still an nvidia fanboi at heart 😂 If I had the money I personally would've just shelled out in the 400-500$ range and figured out what was better from there lol. I kinda figured AMD woulda had a better bang for buck though.

[keen nacelle]

Ye 400-500 range gets you an open box 4070

I mean nvidia options before compared to nvidia were at least competitive in terms of value

Now below 4070 super new is just awful value

[random walrus]

7900gre was $510 a few days ago as well, not sure abt now

[keen nacelle]

4060/ti, 3060, 3050

7800xt has been as low as $440

4060 ti is $370 for 8gb or $450+ for 16gb (estimates, I don't feel like checking) and still get beaten by 6750xt, let alone the 6800

[hexed forge]

4070 super is actually what I want RN but I'm broke so it will be a while before I can actually upgrade 😂 I'm grateful for the 3060 tho cause going from a 2070 super down to a 970 sucked lol

[keen nacelle]

Yeah 3060 is just under a 2070 super

Better rtx, though in most games it wouldn't be worth using due to the frame loss

Def a huge jump from a 970 lmao

[hexed forge]

From what I can see, this GPU specifically was just barely under the GPU I had cause it has factory OC and all that. It's practically the same power

At least as far as I can tell

[keen nacelle]

Factory oc doesn't mean much

Likely just +50 or 100mhz on vram

1-2% diff

[hexed forge]

Yeh maybe but I googled this specific GPU against EVGA 2070 S black and they seemed pretty close to me. Haven't stress tested it yet myself and IDK if I still have my logs from when I had the 2070s lol

Although I think at the time I was using user bench which from what I understand is not great anymore

IDr the other benches I used

[keen nacelle]

Yeah ubm is...

not the best

[tender mulch]

UBM is relatively useless

[hexed forge]

But is it still considered useless if you're comparing Nvidia to Nvidia?

Like I know it is useless cause it tends to favor amd, but if you're trying to compare say 970 to 3060, is that still bad data?

[keen nacelle]

pretty meh yeah

maybe accurate within 10% or so, but between diff gens it's still innacurate

the criteria they use isn't just performance is the issue

they also judge by wattage, efficiency, vram, age

from what i remember, among other things

?ubm

[neat venture]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[keen nacelle]

we have a copy pasta for it

[odd siren]

There's so much wild variation in ubm you can get vastly off the mark answers even between architecture

Like yeah in the above copypasta

I would also add 3dmark for quick and dirty answers

Time spy extreme is very reliable for rough rasterisation performance

Has a slight bias to AMD but it's very very reliable

Just jump on to the 3dmark results page, search by gpu, filter for gpu score, read the average

[tender mulch]

Hmnmm, this isn't good. Igor's Lab found some dirt.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-gpu-partners-reportedly-cheap-out-on-thermal-paste-cheap-paste-allegedly-degrades-in-a-few-months-causing-over-100oc-hotspot-temperatures

[livid idol]

Yeah we saw that a few days ago
#tech-industry-news message

Absolutely shocking and something no one could have possibly seen coming ||/s||

[wheat crag]

Has the quality pc parts been going down lately? Including peripherals

[heady turtle]

No?

[odd siren]

There's a lot better stuff now but you need to sift through the bs

There's a LOT of BS

Like Coarse hair for example, their new cases are...oddly tooled cheap

Despite the premium

[heady turtle]

Actually idk about that because my 4000d airflow is quite nicely machined imo

But yeah same concept

[odd siren]

4000D is older

Not talking about those

2500, 6500

Those ones

3000D is probably unaffected since it's seemingly a 4000D retool

[heady turtle]

Ah didn't realise they had newer ones

[fiery valley]

is the rtx 3060ti a good upgrade over the rx 580 for $190? I have a friend who's willing to sell it to me for that price

8gb model

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[ivory herald]

That's a pretty good price.

[livid idol]

Keep in mind that 8GB is no longer enough for games. There's several recent games that use more than that even at 1080p medium settings.
But it's still a good upgrade for you.

[fiery valley]

i mean im not usually playing the newest games on highest texture quality

my rx580 8gb hasn't been a problem in terms of vram

but looks like its a good upgrade so im gonna get it

most excited for cuda

[livid idol]

Cuda doesn't really do much for gamers unless you play older games like Witcher 3 or Arkham Asylum

(and even then the physx is often broken)

[fiery valley]

oh i didnt even know games took advantage of cuda

i was thinking more for blender rendering and ai

[livid idol]

Blender, meh, but AI definitely favors Nvidia

I haven't seen benches using the new SCALE thing though, that might shake it up

[fiery valley]

oh thats pretty cool, didnt know that was a thing

[livid idol]

Good luck doing AI on 8GB though

It'll work if you use really small models but they have worse performance and results

[random walrus]

I've had pretty decent results running stable diffusion on my 3060ti

can't push the output resolution very high, guessing more vram would let you do that but not sure

Looking at ebay listings you could maybe snag a 6700xt for $220

12gb and better raster for gaming, but worse for AI and maybe some other productivity programs

[keen nacelle]

My 6700xt just sold for $190+ shipping

After ebay fees and sales tax I got like 150 which kind of hurts

[random walrus]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=rx+6700+xt&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3000

most have been going for 220-250 after shipping

[keen nacelle]

Ye mine sold below market value

I should've just listed it on hws but I didn't feel like swapping it into my pc

Ebay doesn't need proof beyond basic pics, hws you gotta have proof of the gpu in a pc turned on and working

[hollow zephyr]

https://a.co/d/eocV8ln

Anyone know much about that shroud it has and is that why it's price at 399 instead of price a little more in line with the comp?

[keen nacelle]

Because it is overpriced

Plug that and any other a770 into an otherwise identical system, compare them side by side, and there would be negligible differences

[hollow zephyr]

Figured

Just saw the shroud and thought maybeeee they were doing something cool

I'm gonna lowball this dude so hard

[plush garden]

is there a better graphics card for around the same price of a 4070 super

[keen nacelle]

7900 gre is cheaper and same perf

[plush garden]

ok

[tender tusk]

Hello was wondering what would be better in terms of this gaming or gaming laptop, gaming pc fx-6300 and radeon rx560 vs gaming laptop with 17-10750h and 1650ti

[limber flax]

most definitely the latter

the fx series was released in 2012 lol

the 10750h was released in 2020

though not sure why you don't consider building a new desktop?

[vital oriole]

used i think

the laptop is miles ahead

[granite hawk]

yo idk if this is the channel for it but i need some help, i cleaned and moved my pc downstairs after connecting it to my monitor via hdmi and dp my monitor says no signal (m27q) its connected to my gpu (3060ti) and just won’t give signal to my monitor, tried the hdmi cable on another device and ut worked fine, tried it with the mobo (MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI) and it doesnt work, any help? if it is my gpu then how tf do i fix it

[hot bough]

if you plan on actually using blender for productivity use a nvidia gpu as blender favors them due to cuda used when rendering.

[fiery valley]

gotcha that’s what i’ve heard but i wasn’t sure

picked up the gpu today 😎 came with a free 27” monitor too

[cosmic bluff]

Not with blender 4.2 introduced better denoising for all gpus using Intel's stuff but quicker

Optix was the target for Nvidia but with 4.1 introducing openapi it was initially for Intel and Nvidia cards which boosted render times, then 4.2 lts allowed And cards to match as well

[hot bough]

oh really?

Interesting.

[cosmic bluff]

It's really nice it cut my render times in half in most cases

[hot bough]

My friend is on 4.2 using AMD but it doesn't run super well.

I think it's like a 6700xt.

[cosmic bluff]

It can vary but ensure that compositor if any is set to GPU, and dont have cpu enabled for renders

[vital oriole]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21491/asrock-launches-passively-cooled-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-and-xt @odd siren

u might like these

[limber flax]

I love having a slab of aluminum

[forest oasis]

This isn't even passively cooled lmao

[vital oriole]

ik

it's just comically large

[forest oasis]

Smh misleading article title

It seems to be around the same size as the Nvidia Tesla cards

[solid glacier]

Anyone know how I enable secure boot on my bios?

[livid idol]

It should be on by default as long as the BIOS is up to date

[raven wharf]

how is that possible

[livid idol]

It's meant for a high airflow environment like a server rack, so it's only passive in the sense that it doesn't have a fan directly attached

[warped spire]

Part of me wants to upgrade my 3080 but at the same time the only really graphically demanding game I’m playing is cyberpunk at 1440p.

Even then it performs well enough for gsync to pick up the pace

If anything I’m trying to lean more towards content creation than gaming but still want the graphical power to do both very well

[limber flax]

It'll be enough

[forest oasis]

does anybody know if the mining only gpus (the ones without display connectors) have a functional hardware encoder and/or can be used for gpu acceleration on applications like blender or smth

[hot bough]

Mind if I ask what kind of content creation? I have been learning and working on projects in Blender.

[livid idol]

The hardware is functional but disabled by the drivers

Modded drivers have been known to get around this

Naturally those are risky

[forest oasis]

i see

[frail pilot]

after advice from someone else on getting a 3070 ti instead of a 4060ti I would like to know if everyone else thinks the 3070ti is better than the 4060 ti

[livid idol]

Yes it is, let me pull some charts to back that

[tender mulch]

Equal for all intents and purposes

Oh, 3070 TI nevermind

[keen nacelle]

4060 ti=3060 ti

[livid idol]

Not quite

4060 ti is about 10% or so better

You're probably thinking of 3060 vs 4060, which is much more equal because the 4060 has less and slower vram

[keen nacelle]

Hm, still disappointing at the price tho

[livid idol]

Very much so

[summer bane]

Does the dell g5 5090 prebuild have space or capability for a gpu upgrade? I have a rtx 2080 8gb. And was wanting to put in a rtx 4080 or 4090

[vital oriole]

no

it's a dell

automatically not doable

[forest oasis]

very unlikely

[vital oriole]

and i googled it up

yep, it uses a proprietary case

with barely any space more than what it came with

[forest oasis]

tbf you could do like, case mods and such but most people aint adding speed holes and cutting out mounting brackets

just to fit a 4090

in a dell prebuilt

lmao

[vital oriole]

yeah

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtF7hCwUhXv29zZVB6JQ3NlnmXJhCmFRSPng&usqp=CAU

[summer bane]

Alright. Was Just trying to run with what I had if I could. . I’ll probably just end up building a new one. Never done that so it should be fun

[vital oriole]

[forest oasis]

i dont think the case is even long enough

[vital oriole]

a 4080 will not fit in this

but yeah time to build a new pc

[forest oasis]

this image is truly the essence of dell prebuilts

single channel memory

[tender mulch]

Not to mention you'd need a PSU upgrade

[forest oasis]

also yeah building your own pc is fun

[vital oriole]

why are you in roblox car crushers server

[forest oasis]

goated game frfr

[vital oriole]

real

[forest oasis]

i used to play quite a bit, even bought early access to cc2

[summer bane]

Are there any sites or something to help with building? Again. Never done it. So I don’t know how to check compatibility and what not

[forest oasis]

pcpartpicker

dot com

[vital oriole]

it will only show parts that are compatible

[forest oasis]

it does display part lengths and such

[vital oriole]

but right now i would start with an AM5 rig

[forest oasis]

and yeah, depending on budget, either a r5 7....600x? was that the number lmao or a r7 7800x3d is a good base

you can ask #building-and-recc-chat for build lists

specify budget and country

and any other information that may be relevant

[summer bane]

Alrighty. Well thank y’all for everything so far

[frail pilot]

Could someone find me a good deal on a used 3070ti?

[keen nacelle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387248528833?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387248416303?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[frail pilot]

That's a normal 3070 I'm looking for a 3070ti

[keen nacelle]

Why. They perform within 2% of eachother and 3070 ti has hotter vram

[frail pilot]

Really?

[keen nacelle]

Yes. The difference is almost exclusively that the ti has gddr6x, and the non ti has gddr6

[plucky canopy]

Is this true that a card 4 years older than mine is better? I’m comparing these as i have the 960m and the 660 is GPU requirement for GTA5 with FiveM which i wanna get but idk if i can run

Ping me if you reply please

[livid idol]

It is certainly possible when you're comparing laptop GPUs to desktop ones

[plucky canopy]

So is the 960m specifically a laptop GPU, compared to the regular 960?

[limber flax]

yep

thats what the m is

mobile

[plucky canopy]

Damn.

So old I can’t run gta 😭 Jesus Christ

At least not super nicely

[limber flax]

run at 10fps

[plucky canopy]

I feel like I shouldn’t make a judgement now though since they’re still quite close and that’s maximum requirements not minimum, plus my CPU meets max recs. So my best best would be to buy the game, try it, play with the settings and see how it runs

[livid idol]

If you buy on steam you can always refund if you play less than 2 hours

[plucky canopy]

well I have to ask my mom to buy the game and I can’t for awhile so it’ll be awhile before I can try it lol

Ugh I always forget this server has that

but I said I hate not being able to buy stuff at my own will lmao

[livid idol]

You've got higher odds of her saying yes if you wait for it to be on sale

[limber flax]

real

[plucky canopy]

It is on sale already it’s $20

Which is still pricey

And I missed summer sale lol so

It needs to be like, under ten dollars on sale lmao

[limber flax]

that'll come around lol

or you can buy a steam key online

[livid idol]

$20 bundle though, includes a couple starter packs

[limber flax]

i forget the sites you can do that with but they're usually cheaper than steam base prices

[plucky canopy]

yeah but $20 is a lot for us I don’t wanna ask my mom for a ton

[plucky canopy]

those sites are sketchy as hell

[limber flax]

then maybe it's a good idea to hold off haha

oh what

oh i guess those specific sequence of numbers and letters is not okay?

tf

[livid idol]

Yeah no naming those sites

[limber flax]

ah

[plucky canopy]

Is it the site that starts with an E and ends with an A?

What sites are you referring to

[limber flax]

EA SPORTS

[plucky canopy]

NOOO

[livid idol]

No dodging the filter either lol

[plucky canopy]

I wanna know what site he’s referring to 😭

[limber flax]

but no

[livid idol]

You can chat about it in DMs

But this is a corporate server so we have a few extra rules

[plucky canopy]

check DMs

[rugged thunder]

Sold out….

[limber flax]

sold out of rules? damn

[rugged thunder]

Happens

[forest oasis]

sold out of tech tips

[limber flax]

No more tips

Only this segue from our sponsor dbrand

[random walrus]

sketchy as in where/how they obtain they keys, yes. Sketchy for the consumer? not really.

[forest oasis]

Sometimes

[pine ivy]

Yo anyone can help asap

@forest oasis

Can u help?

[forest oasis]

you should just ask your question

[pine ivy]

Alr a second

[forest oasis]

dont wait for people to ask you what you need help with

☠️

[pine ivy]

So I just build a completely new pc every single part is new

Everything is working expect the rtx

And this is my cousins pc

[forest oasis]

so the pc isnt booting? what is the issue exactly that you're trying to solve?

[pine ivy]

The rtx is not working and there is this cable that came with the PSU

So one side of this cable goes into the PSu

And I would guess the other one goes into the RTX

Bc

[forest oasis]

the gpu

yeah

[pine ivy]

Look there is one empty

[forest oasis]

oh, then you need one other pcie power

that cable you're holding is the connector used on some nvidia gpus

[pine ivy]

But the cable doesn’t fit into the gpu

[forest oasis]

it's not that cable

do you have another pcie power cable

[pine ivy]

Nope

[forest oasis]

hmm

[pine ivy]

Or wait

A sec

There is this one that came with the rtx

[forest oasis]

it's the same cables as the ones already connected

also no, those are SATA cables

those came with your motherboard most likely

also it's called a gpu, not an RTX

[pine ivy]

Yeah Ik

Here is my mobo

[forest oasis]

none of this matters; look in your psu box for any extra cables it may have come with

your gpu might be not turning on because it doesnt have all 3 connectors plugged in

[forest oasis]

hmm

yeah it doesnt seem like the psu includes enough for the full gpu

[ivory herald]

Which psu? Do something like this 2nd pic:

[forest oasis]

did you not look at the box lmao

these are the included cables and supplies with the psu according to the website

[cerulean rover]

It looks to have 2 daisy chain 8pin off pcie only

[forest oasis]

^

[ivory herald]

Was scrolled down w/ keyboard open, haha. Dang it de quiet

[cerulean rover]

Really built for ATX 3.0

[pine ivy]

Where to put this one???

[forest oasis]

nowhere

because you dont have a gpu that uses it

[pine ivy]

Okay so what’s should I do

Cause there is no other cables

[forest oasis]

there's 2 options; get a psu that can have 3 pcie power connectors (this is the better option)
or buy a molex to pcie power cable (less ideal)

[pine ivy]

Where to buy the cable for the best option??

And where do i plug the cable?? One head into the gpu

And the other one??

[forest oasis]

your psu doesnt support another pcie cable from what it seems

[pine ivy]

There is only the one in the middle which is for this cable

[ivory herald]

I wonder if be quiet has a 12vhpwr to 2x8pin adapter that would work in this way (opposite the usual way of course)

[forest oasis]

hmm

i dont really think so

at least not officially

[pine ivy]

Uhh

What if I buy a cable that has one head like this

And the other head like this

@forest oasis

[forest oasis]

yeah that could theoretically work

be quiet doesnt sell it directly on their site though, so you'll have to find something that would work properly

[keen nacelle]

I just got here. Is the third being left empty?

[forest oasis]

yeah

[keen nacelle]

Doesn't work

[forest oasis]

psu doesnt include 3rd cable

[keen nacelle]

All need to be filled

[forest oasis]

yeah i mentioned that

[keen nacelle]

Does it have 2? Could do 2 and then third daisy chain (if that's already been said ignore me)

[forest oasis]

nah it just has 1

[keen nacelle]

New psu time

[forest oasis]

it's a psu that was designed to be used with the new atx power cable

[keen nacelle]

Ahh.. what gpu?

3080?

[forest oasis]

idk

[pine ivy]

Rtx 3070 to

[keen nacelle]

Looks like high 30 series

[pine ivy]

Ti*

Zotac

[forest oasis]

damn 3070 with 3 pcie power

[keen nacelle]

Honestly, would you be open to selling it or trading down to a 2x8 pin gpu?

3070 is $270 rn and it would be the same exact experience, and yours should sell for around 300

[pine ivy]

270$$???

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[pine ivy]

Are u crazy??

[keen nacelle]

In the US anyways

[pine ivy]

I bought it for 500$

I’m Sweden

[keen nacelle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387248528833?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Ah

That makes it more annoying for your end

[pine ivy]

Na bro this has 3x fans

[keen nacelle]

I mean

Yeah?

[pine ivy]

3 fans is expensive

[keen nacelle]

The point is, your card and psu won't work together.

[keen nacelle]

????

[pine ivy]

Okay

New PSU??

[keen nacelle]

There's dual fan 3070s that outperform the triple fan ventus

The number of fans is near irrelevant

[keen nacelle]

New psu or new gpu

Up to you

[pine ivy]

What if I get a cable??

That I told @forest oasis

[keen nacelle]

If the psu has more 8 pin ports on it, that would work. But they MUST be directly from the manufacturer

Or buy used cables for the same exact power supply. Power supplies do not work well with cables from other psus

[pine ivy]

I will go with new PSU

Can u recommend me a PSU??

@keen nacelle

Would a Corsair PSU work?

@keen nacelle

Answer asap

https://www.netonnet.se/art/datorkomponenter/nataggregat/modulart/corsair-rm850x-v3-850w-2021/1018293.9009/

Will this work???

Asap bro

Answer asap

[ivory herald]

A TIER. Rm750x probably plenty for ya also.

[pine ivy]

??

@ivory herald will the PSU I sent work??

Asap bro

Cause I will go buy it rb

Rb

Rn

@ivory herald

@keen nacelle

@forest oasis

[random walrus]

Dude chill with the pings lol

People will answer when they have the time to

[pine ivy]

Bro the house closes on 30 minutes

Anyone pls

[ivory herald]

Check the emote. Yes it's a great psu. Corsair even has good adapter cables if you ever get a 40 series nvidia gpu

[pine ivy]

So the PSU I sent works for the rtx I have rn

@ivory herald

[keen nacelle]

jesus christ my guy

i have things to do that are more important than not being paid to provide tech support

[pine ivy]

I will pay u

I’m rich bro

TikTok money

This is third pc building this month

[ivory herald]

Only tips here are in the form of information.

[pine ivy]

Just arrived at the shop

Gonna buy it in some minutes

@forest oasis love u

Just got a PSU with 850watt

The other one was 750

🤣

Rtx with 3 cables

Will start a war on this pc 🔥

[pine ivy]

Yo anyone

Can I put both heads in the gpu

Both head are from 1 cable

Will it affect anything?? If I put both from 1 cable??

@ivory herald

[ivory herald]

That's the point, and it's expected to have 1 of the "short" parts handing off since you might use 2 cables but have 4 total conenctors.

[pine ivy]

Yo it works now

But I click save and exit from bios

But after the the screen is black for like 5 seconds

And the go back to bios again

Anyone can help?

[keen nacelle]

leave it alone

memory needs to train

[livid idol]

Do you have Windows installed already? If not now is the time to install it.

It goes to BIOS because it doesn't detect a boot drive

[pine ivy]

Yeah i got it

will do it tomorrow

too tired

[plush garden]

Hey is this gap okay

Cause I couldn’t get it to fit without removing this plate

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

What case and mobo is that?

[plush garden]

It’s the lian li lan cool 216

And tomahawk b650

[plush garden]

Atx board

@keen nacelle

[keen nacelle]

I'm not familiar with either but it won't be problematic

[barren trout]

Amd Rog Strix RX 6700 XT for 350 off market place a good deal or bad

[vital oriole]

meh

you can find like used 3080

or something like a 7700xt

[keen nacelle]

Usd?

That's very overpriced

My used 6700xt just sold for 190+$25 shipping lmao

350 should get you a 6800xt

[keen nacelle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387248528833?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[hasty sphinx]

Thought I'd post this here. Found at a local thrift store.

[forest oasis]

live update

[limber flax]

Tested as is (it has none of the options checked off)

[barren trout]

@modern pecan ok ty

i figured always robbing ppl on market place

[solid glacier]

man

[near jasper]

Quick question. A friend of mine just had a 650W PSU die on them and they don't have money to buy another. We swapped in an ancient 700W unit from a decade old alienware but it only has 2x6 PCI power

His system has a 3060 that wants 1x8 pin and 1x6 pin but it seems to boot and run perfectly fine when the 2x6 pins are plugged in. That's fine right? I don't see how a 170W card would want that many connectors

[keen nacelle]

Psus are never something you want to mess with

That's how you end up with dead parts

[near jasper]

If it were mine I'd get a new PSU, unfortunately he doesn't have the money to

[keen nacelle]

From what I know, it shouldn't even boot without all connectors filled. I've no idea how it'll behave, or if (likely when) it'll be a problem.

[near jasper]

Okay, thank you

[limber flax]

Yeah I definitely wouldn't trust it lol, the two empty pins could be pretty important

I'd rather spend on a new PSU when I can than have to potentially pay for an entire new PC

[random walrus]

https://forums.tomshardware.com/proxy.php?image=http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ac/1000x2000px-LL-ac82eb1d_pinout.png&hash=e52471bb59e7e322dc9ef49e0f9f9285

So you're missing sense B and a ground

pcie slot plus two 2x6 cables would be 225 watts, enough for a 3060. But this article says a 2x6 cable in a 2x8 can cause it to pull too much power
https://pactech-inc.com/difference-between-6-pin-8-pin-12-pin-gpu-cable/

[near jasper]

Ooh that's a good resource

[wicked hound]

6P and 8P cables are rather overbuilt. So the specific question you're asking isnt exactly too concerning. Not recommended to do if one can avoid it, but will be fine for most GPUs (esp for 3060). What is concerning is that you're using a random PSU of which is also old. OEMs/SIs like Alienware are a bit random with choosing good/bad quality PSUs, but generally choose cheap bad quality ones.

Usually you want to choose a PSU that has gone through a proper review with the data published. This isnt just like an unboxing, but an actual test of the PSU with certain workloads and making sure it provides clean and protected power, with the PCB analyzed for quality components and build quality, etc.

A full review doesnt happen all too often for PSUs that OEMs/SIs use, meaning regardless of whether it seems good quality they cant be recommended (usually only see shallow reviews, checking specs for having all the protections that a PSU needs or a quick PCB analysis).

[wild glen]

I'm considering getting either the 4070 Ti S or the 7900 XTX for a 2K FPS game, along with a 7800X3D as the CPU. I'm wondering if there would be a bottleneck between them at 2K resolution and I'm not sure if it would be overkill for an FPS game because I currently have a 1660 Super and I don't use DLSS, so I'm unsure of how good it would be for FPS games.

[random walrus]

depends on what FPS game and what refresh rate you're aiming for

[wild glen]

overwatch and mw3 and call of duty 6 later on and maybe above 200 fps

[random walrus]

it will be a bit overkill for overwatch but COD is much more demanding

the modern cod games also run quite well on AMD gpus iirc

~200 fps at 4k with that pair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j5voO05WwQ

4070 ti super gets about 200 at 1440p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67_PcpmHIdk

[wild glen]

ya but I will buy a 2k monitor so I will be more likely to play on 1440p

[random walrus]

you could also do a 7900gre

[wild glen]

but i can't play with dlss on amd

[random walrus]

won't need it in cod at 1440p

[wild glen]

and is it good on fps games even?

[random walrus]

personally I don't like the blur upscalers present while in motion

Granted cod uses TAA anyways so there's some blur even at "native"

AMD also has FSR

[wild glen]

idk maybe i will go with 7900xt if the dlss not worth it

[random walrus]

^

[wild glen]

it's the same price as the 7900xt in my region

[random walrus]

ah

[vital oriole]

late reply but

yeah modern cod games love amd

xtx easily slaps 4090 in cod

[wild glen]

Is that the same in Overwatch? I play it too

[vital oriole]

it doesn't matter too much when the comparison is

4070 TiS and XTX

the xtx would still be faster

[limber flax]

Its the 7900xtx LMAO

Its always going to be better than a 4070ti

Its basically the 4080 equivalent as far as I'm aware

[wild glen]

yeah but I'm planning to buy a 1440p monitor and play games in 1440p. Will the 7900XTX cause a bottleneck?

[limber flax]

I'm gonna be real with you man, bottlenecks are everywhere

But no, the 7900xtx will not struggle with 1440p

Its AMD's top of the line card after all

Personally prefer to avoid using the word bottleneck at all in this context

Its too buzzwordy and just incites fear and panic in newbies

[vital oriole]

it's just

simply obsolescence as tech progresses

bottleneck is easy to use but it barely means anything

[limber flax]

Buzzword

It applies literally everywhere

Your body bottlenecks your performance

Your myelin sheath thickness also bottlenecks it

Not getting enough sleep? Bottleneck

[forest oasis]

im gonna turn your neck into a bottle

[craggy pier]

Doing a police investigation and want to get a techie to talk? Say you dont want to buy (part) in worries it'll bottleneck your system since youre worried about your future-proofing.

[vital oriole]

lol

[odd siren]

LOL

[odd siren]

"The Tennison Techie Gambit"

[heady turtle]

Huh?

[livid idol]

Techie: "I don't want to talk to police."
Investigator: "That's fine. Hey (partner), what do you think about me getting a SATA SSD? I'm, worried it might bottleneck my computer."
Techie: (internal screaming)

[heady turtle]

Ohh i read it as question not a joke

[craggy pier]

Is it worth waiting to get a sapphire card instead of just grabbing something else for 30-50$ bucks less? Ive heard really damn good things about sapphire with cooling, noise and QOL and those are pretty important to me. Looking at the nitro for the gre

Have heard good things about powercolor as well

Idk, not too keen on brands

[random walrus]

I personally would take the $ savings

Though right now it looks like it's $10 extra to go from a 2 fan to 3 fan card, that might be worth it if it'll fit in your case

[forest oasis]

as long as it isnt the most outdated cooler design in the planet, it's fine

me when msi armour 2x

[ionic pasture]

hey guys im taking out gpu real quick from my computer and im nervous ive unscrewed the sides and unplugged the cables now im nervous about pulling it out i have an asus motherboard with pcle slot release button i pressed it but it hasnt come do i just pull i just dont want to break anything am i missing any steps

[livid idol]

Sometimes the slot release is a push, sometimes it's a pull. Other times you press it down towards the motherboard. Depends on the brand.

[vital oriole]

im guessing this is a strix board

with the q-release button that releases pcie lock

[forest oasis]

pcie slot has a little bit of friction as well

it takes a little bit of force to get the gpu out (but not an excessive amount)

pull straight out, holding the edges of the pcb if possible, and try not to grab the cooler/shroud to pull

[tough plinth]

the top portion of my screen is flashing black

i took a video one second

sorry about the first one being sideways lmao

should i try restarting?

also plz @ me

this happened once before, i had just gotten minecraft and was trying shaders

then i tried shaders on with 32 chunks render distance

but when i reduced my render distance the problem went away

i used the screen recording software with amd, the black bar shows up there too

uh

i fixed it

i went into task manager and closed unity

and it was fixerd

😭

does anyone have any idea as to what happened?

[livid idol]

Driver hiccup

Sometimes they crash, no matter what brand

Windows is ok at recovering but it doesn't work right every time

[tough plinth]

ohh ok ty

[brave sequoia]

I pulled my 3070 out of my computer and took it apart. I found a burn mark. It’s pretty large. Interestingly the gpu still turns on and runs. Should I get a new gpu or can I still stick with this one. Also I will see if I can send the picture I have of the mark

[livid idol]

Send me the pic and I'll put it up here

[limber flax]

Bro ran furmark

[brave sequoia]

Also any one got an good recommendations for thermal paste?

[limber flax]

Mx4/6, kryonaut, nt-h2 off the top of my head

[forest oasis]

mx5 was the bad one, it's mx4/6

[limber flax]

oh my bad

fixed it

[hot folio]

What was wrong with MX5?

[odd siren]

Separated easily

Chemical composition would cause it separate and dry out very quick, making it very useless

Basically widespread faulty paste

MX-6 quickly came out later, essentially a revision

Those who had working mx-5 tho, iirc had decent results

[livid idol]

There was a bad batch that was recalled, and they were almost done developing MX-6 so they just discontinued MX-5

MX-4 is still great budget paste. I personally wouldn't put it on a high end GPU but it's great for just about any CPU or mid-range GPU

[solid glacier]

bruh what

i got the latest gpu driver

[wicked hound]

Futuristic game requires futuristic drivers obv. Get a time machine or go home.

||/s||

Prolly a variable typo that'l' be patched soon.

[heady elk]

Just to confirm, all power connector slots on a GPU must be filled?

[odd siren]

Yes of course

[dreamy dune]

yo can someone help with my gpu problem? I got a used 3070 and upgraded from my 1050ti. The problem is when I was stress testing, it usually sits around 84 degrees Celsius when running max graphics. But once the gpu hits 90 degrees the screen turns black and doesnt turn back on although the rgb and fans still running on the gpu. As a temp solution I went on msi afterburner and lowered the power usage so it doesnt reaches that temp. But now I cant use my 3070 to its potential, is there a way to stop my gpu from shutting off?

[fast dew]

sounds like it needs cleaned and possibly a repaste and repad

was it a miner card?

[keen nacelle]

repaste and repad for sure

also, what case do you have?

and an 85-90% pl is perfectly fine, you really don't lose much perf

[dreamy dune]

possibly ngl

[fast dew]

yeah look into repasting and repadding it

[keen nacelle]

im running my 3060 ti at 65% to avoid noise lmao

i have an oc to offset the perf loss, but i don't do anything that needs that full performance atm

[dreamy dune]

I have to put it at like 75 ngl

[keen nacelle]

75% is still ntb, +450 on memory and +90 on core is a very minor overclock and is perfectly safe, that could help

but i would 100% repaste and repad it

from a lifespan perspective too

[dreamy dune]

aight, appreciate the help homie

[keen nacelle]

if you feel like getting more of an oc out of your card, lmk

or go to #overclocking and look in pins

[fast dew]

if you contact the card maker a lot of times they'll sell or ship you the right pads for it

evga sent mine for free

[dreamy dune]

for sure

[keen nacelle]

@odd siren or @livid idol are both great at suggesting the right pads too

[livid idol]

Personally I don't recommend pads any more since putty is quite a bit better, especially when you look at hotspot temps

It's also hard to figure out exactly what size pads you need for your exact model

[forest oasis]

I mean
EVGA has a track record of great CS

Would other companies do the same

[fast dew]

so sad they don't make gpu anymore

[forest oasis]

Fr

[fast dew]

still

i'm sure if you emailed the manu they'd send some even for a small fee like $15 or something

then you'd know they're right

[keen nacelle]

i didnt even know there was another option

[forest oasis]

Putty is just harder to clean up

[fast dew]

ya it's a bit more messy but it works

[livid idol]

The current best putty is Upsiren UTP-8 and it outperforms every pad except for graphene.

It's also not expensive

[forest oasis]

Technically speaking, if you had a crap load of thermal paste, you could use that
At least until it drips out if it's not viscous enough

[livid idol]

You could also CNC mill a block of copper

I try to always bring receipts for my claims
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1116503705760579584/1276298975707922584/Screenshot_2024-07-11_232100.png

[odd siren]

@dreamy dune

Utp-8 is my usual suggestion these days

Putty just makes it braindead easy, like repasting

[solid glacier]

Hey anyone got a list for like 1500? Black preferably, with a decent amount of RGB?

[clever aspen]

sure

what country

what will you do with it

do you need wifi or bluetooth

[frigid anvil]

Love that actually

[raven wharf]

https://youtu.be/lqgEM7y6rcg?si=IGAurrL25iyRL3Qw

6950xt is so low

https://tenor.com/view/falling-from-my-knees-liv-slasher-kneel-down-lie-down-gif-25659247

9950 XTX when

[olive bobcat]

Where’s my boi 2080ti come on man

[clever aspen]

1080ti better

[livid idol]

Because RT is on ultra

Even at the low preset it has RT on, which I'm sure Nvidia had a hand in since it's a Nvidia sponsored title.

[odd siren]

Wtf the XTX is meeting last gen on ultra is INSANE

A whole generation behind in RT and they're matching on that level

Wtf

[livid idol]

We pretty much knew that already, but yes it's still interesting that they're almost exactly 1 generation behind on RT hardware.

[raven wharf]

i thought that honestly was low for the XTX

is 6000 series the first rdna to support RT?

[livid idol]

Yes

[vital oriole]

rt moment

[fading glacier]

using one of those cards for 1080p hurts my soul

[odd siren]

Ikr

[craggy pier]

Would the sapphire nitro + 7900 gre be worth getting over the original? Im stuck between the two

[heady turtle]

Basically always get the cheapest model when it comes to gpus

[keen nacelle]

Not true with gre

The nitro+ overclocks significantly better

Imo worth around $30-50 extra depending on how much you care about overclocking

[craggy pier]

How much would the overclock affect its lifespan?

[livid idol]

If you do it right, not at all

[craggy pier]

I might poke back into here at some point then about it

[keen nacelle]

How much is the nitro+?

[livid idol]

Currently $610

[craggy pier]

600

[keen nacelle]

This is a close second
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMYRsY/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-rx-7900-gre-16g-loc

Second best model if I remember right

[craggy pier]

I also like the typical quietness ive heard from sapphire

And qol stuff

[keen nacelle]

Any gre aside from challenger or the dual fan asus one should be fairly quiet

[livid idol]

tbh you can take almost any GRE and slap the nitro+ vbios on it and get the power bump

[keen nacelle]

That's a good point I forgot you could flash vbios

[craggy pier]

Maybe stick with the standard sapphire then?

Its the brand i want to stick with

[keen nacelle]

If you're set on sapphire yeah

[livid idol]

The pulse is decent enough

[keen nacelle]

But hellhound>sapphire pulse

You could look up a noise level comparison maybe?

[craggy pier]

Might do

Im fine with less power for more quiet

Helps since i wear open backs

[keen nacelle]

Hellhound should honestly be quieter if anything

[craggy pier]

Mkay

[plush garden]

Since I have a ryzen 7 7800 x3d and no gpu can the pc still be built and windows and all that be installed or do I need gpu

[livid idol]

Undervolt + 150 core + 2000 mem and it'll probably draw the same power as stock

[livid idol]

There is an iGPU built into the CPU, plug your monitor into the motherboard

[plush garden]

So just plug hdmi in to motherboard

[plush garden]

^

[livid idol]

Correct

[plush garden]

Bet

[heady turtle]

Fair enough, does it have cherry picked chips or something?

[keen nacelle]

I don't remember exactly what it was, something about the limited vram on the gre?

[heady turtle]

Hmm

[odd siren]

@heady turtle @keen nacelle it's a thing of the past

Early GRE samples, some had high clocking vram

Just about all of them now have poor vram OC

I believe the good samples used samsung vram?

Now it's all hynix downbin

Afaik

[livid idol]

When I was inspecting vbios, they were all reporting they used the exact same memory as the XT. 20Gb chips set to 18Gb. There may have been changes since then.

[keen nacelle]

Ah that sucks

[heady turtle]

Ah yeah i remember that didn't know if was still going on

[solid glacier]

Need a build for 3k usd

[keen nacelle]

Gaming? just pc or monitor included

[solid glacier]

Just Pc

Max budget is 3k I should say

Might get a 4090 instead of a XTX ngl

[keen nacelle]

Your money

50 series is fairly close tbf

[solid glacier]

How close?

And is it in the budget range?

[keen nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V6ndpB

[solid glacier]

Should I get that new AMD cpu that came out or nah

[keen nacelle]

Not till x3d comes out

[solid glacier]

How long is that? Or there isn’t a time frame

[keen nacelle]

I'm not really sure

Google might have some idea but I'm too tired to deal with that

[livid idol]

December-ish
No idea how much it will cost but it's rumored to use more power

[tough plinth]

my 5700 oc keeps on freezing and the only way to fix it is to hold the power button until the pc turns off, then start it again. sometimes after i turn it back on the amd software says that a driver timeout was detected. also the sound keeps playing after the display freezes. im like 90% sure its the gpu because its the only part i got used.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/77TzK8/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-8-gb-video-card-axrx-5700-8gbd6-3dhoc

i do have a warrenty with allstate btw

[livid idol]

That would be par for the course on that generation

DDU should help, and update to the latest driver after

?ddu

[neat venture]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[livid idol]

You can also check if the firmware version is up to date, I'll check what the latest version is and you can check gpu-z for your version

[tough plinth]

couldnt i just update in the software

[livid idol]

That won't clean up old configurations and other files

Even the "factory reset" option doesn't get everything

[tough plinth]

oh ok

[solid glacier]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JC8PMV https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t88mZJ

stuck between the 2 xD

[clever aspen]

https://us-store.msi.com/PC-Components/Storage-Devices/Solid-State-Drive/M482-NVMe-M2-2TB-Bulk

idk but get this ssd for sure

and the montech 903 max bc the xt ultra is actually 85 since no one uses the mail in rebates

i would also get the b650 eagle its the same as your board but no ssd heatsink BUT its 15$ cheaper

[solid glacier]

i would want a ssd heatsink lol

[solid glacier]

is this on amazon to or nah

[clever aspen]

no

its no ssd heatsinks for slots 2 and 3

slot 1 has a heatsink

and for psu i would wait for a deal

you can save quite a bit

[solid glacier]

hmm true

buti wanna get everything within the nxt week

[clever aspen]

wait for a deal for this week

if nothing then just get the best price

also 7800x3d price bad rn

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72fVh3 + the ssd i showed + the gpu you want

• wait for hopefully better prices

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mP88TW/msi-pro-b650-s-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-pro-b650-s-wifi

this is really nice if you dont care about looks tho

atleast i think it is

its the gaming + with less vrm heatsino

[solid glacier]

isnt more vram good ?

[clever aspen]

depends

but 16gb wont be used up unless you play star wart outlaws at 4k max settings

or smth ridiculous

[livid idol]

Yes, to a point. There's only 2 games I'm aware of that go above 12GB even at 4k with RT on. That's what I've been recommending lately.

Having too little can be bad, but having extra isn't better than having just enough

[solid glacier]

yea i only play on a 1440p monitor

[clever aspen]

16gb will be fine then

for basically forever

hopefully

[solid glacier]

yea just deciding wether to do xtx or super

[clever aspen]

they are both

good

super better if you wanna turn on rt or plan to do vr

xtx better for everything else

[solid glacier]

yea just had 2 bad experiences with xtx

very bad microstuttering lol

[clever aspen]

my friend also had an issue with the xtx

it blew up his card

i have a hard time believing he didnt blow it up himself tho bc his username is gpu killer

[solid glacier]

oop

[forest oasis]

they should bring back sli specifically for VR

like, one of the only applications in gaming that would make sense for sli to exist

https://developer.nvidia.com/vrworks/graphics/vrsli nvidia did try this a good while back

basically it used 1 gpu to render the scene of one eye; so you would use 2 gpus for both

because each eye doesnt get the same image; there are 2 ingame cameras, one for each eye so you get depth perception

or even 3 if you want a different camera angle for a stream/desktop view

though i wonder how noticable slight desync from eye to eye would be

[random walrus]

I would guess pretty bad, not sure tho

& even if it wasn't perceptible it might cause a headache

[forest oasis]

idk, would have to try to know

[odd siren]

@solid glacier
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3mFY4M
Something a little different, would work well, you know the story for the ram, not our first rodeo there lol.

[forest oasis]

but i dont know anything that supports this currently, and the latest supported card appears to be gtx 900 series, at least from the article

[solid glacier]

I want 6k frequency ram, is it possible to get ram for that that isn’t what I got last time 😭

Also looking for atx case

[odd siren]

Sure

Though the atx boards are pretty terrible on AM5 on the cheap end

All the extra slots are wired for x1 bandwidth

Or the rare but nice x4 on the mid range

[solid glacier]

What about the eagle 650 ax?

[odd siren]

There's not really any point to an atx board on AM5 value end unless you either use 1x bandwidth cards a lot like wifi or you have a GPU that's like 7 slots thick

Well my point is

[solid glacier]

Oo

[odd siren]

If you're thinking to add anything else but a gpu