td2-general-chat

[fluid meadow]

Yeah i'd prefer choosing my own targeted loot and also doubling the proto drop rate again

Just my two cents
Maybe also make enemies actually smarter instead of dumb ai just with bullet sponginess

[toxic musk]

Mods. Turn this user into ravioli. Thank you

[agile gyro]

Can we also make players smarter?

[fluid meadow]

It doesn't work that way

[feral knoll]

well, that's tier 3 unlocked, I don't wanna, lolol.

[agile gyro]

Since when

[fluid meadow]

Since gaming became a thing

[warm yew]

E3+ basically feels like doing a challenging mission with double the health and damage of legendary

[fluid meadow]

Well yeah i'm talking about T6+ 4 player scaling

[warm yew]

Yeah like E8+ is basically just wiggling back and forth all focusing down one single enemy at a time so something actually dies in a reasonable time

It also feels awful that drops are per NPC kill with zero badluck protections in place

[fluid meadow]

Pity shop? Yeah warframe life made it easy

[warm yew]

Not even a pity shop

[fluid meadow]

Div1 had classified caches and they didn't even add it for proto

[obsidian atlas]

you know what they could've done? six pieces, that would've totally solved all the endgame problems

[feral knoll]

It's the hot takes hour, I was wondering what was going on, lol.

[warm yew]

Just have drop rates compound per kill imo

Like for E1 right, rather than .2% flat across all enemies just have it slowly build up until a drop happens. Like a smaller chance that stacks per enemy killed until a drop, then it resets. ||Then PLEASE GUARANTEE A SINGLE PROTOTYPE IN THE COMPLETION REWARDS WHY DOESNT THAT EXIST?||

[elfin hazel]

my standard go to hot take div1 & snow not that awesome

[fluid meadow]

Wasn't there supposed to be a proto chance on mission completion???

[jagged shell]

In our dreams

[elfin hazel]

we're still super early into prototyping theres no way we're not getting more changes

[fluid meadow]

I thought i was just unlucky wtf

[warm yew]

That way higher tiers still get a buff to drop rates but if you run lower tiers enough you can still get guaranteed rewards to build up proto gear to ATTEMPT HIGHER TIERS

[fluid meadow]

I literally read it on their pts

[jagged shell]

Them taking away protos from caches is still so bizarre to me, kills the incentive to run different missions than the one gearset or named items you're looking for

[feral knoll]

There are more changes coming, it's like the developer adds something, says they are going to continue to work on it, but apparently in one ear out the other.

[fluid meadow]

That's the thing though drip feeding until it gets to a reasonable level of worth it is a shit move

What's the point of a pts then

[elfin hazel]

kinda just how live service games are

[obsidian atlas]

lukewarm take: add option to add equipped armor on top of shirts and make it togglable

[polar thorn]

I crashed out when they gave prototype black friday 😭

[feral knoll]

I think having an end of mission reward is an option, for sure. But it's not all gonna happen at once. Like always, it'll be itterative.

[polar thorn]

That would be good dinner

[elfin hazel]

to make sure there's no major issues be it bugs or balancing in the core of the things they're implementing

[agile gyro]

I feel like I should be annoyed at this but I can see how the atmopsphere can get dull and stale after awhile.

[jagged shell]

Your pragmatism is so tuff

[feral knoll]

PTS is basically to make sure that the game more or less runs at all and the basics of the thing work; finesse comes later. Also PTS doesn't really reflect the impact the entire player base hopping on does.

[agile gyro]

When everything is white and greyish it gets boring after awhile, what can I say 🤷

[feral knoll]

your observation skills are measured.

[warm yew]

Clearly the no bugs part is working great lmao

[elfin hazel]

not everything gets fixed in time

pts bug fixing is more for will the game break

[jagged shell]

Most games release events and new features with bugs that have to get hashed out though, its not fair to expect flawless new content

[agile gyro]

LMG's go to attribute is CHC right

[elfin hazel]

yes

[jagged shell]

or CHD if you are at the cap, but yes crit

[agile gyro]

Probably should've asked that in #ask-td2-community, welp.

[elfin hazel]

general and ask are interchangeable

[agile gyro]

Alright, ty my goats.

[elfin hazel]

most of the time

[jagged shell]

You the real general

[elfin hazel]

I live in an area where I can see snow a lot, it's just not that interesting to me personally, but more importantly, people confuse the style/themes of 1 as the style/themes of the whole series. Because div1 (right after green poison) was sad & depressing, therefor div2 (months after) should ALSO be depressing despite being mostly removed from the themes of 1 and more about hope for the future and rebuilding.

[obsidian atlas]

div 2 is high tech super hero honor scouts on steroids

[agile gyro]

Yeah I personally like snowy atmospheres but I also like the nice green scenery of other atmospheres. If I have the choice in the game to swap between the two (shaders, textures, etc.) I will swap between them when I get bored of each other.

[vestal sonnet]

i hope they do seasons for div3 but i doubt that's happening. like seasons change once a week or something

[jagged shell]

Idk man, I can go to the DZ and be a naughty boy and still be in the Division, idk about the boy scouts

[elfin hazel]

Snow works great in 1, but it's nothing I'm wowed by it'd be like if I was wowed by all the leaves on the ground in BFB

[agile gyro]

Honestly I'm kinda shocked they wont do it here even if its briefly switching to a snowy atmosphere for the holidays.

Then again Idk how much work it takes to change the atmospheres so 🤷 lol

[vestal sonnet]

probably hard to make everything snow covered, you can probably cover the map mesh pretty easily but you'd have to do all the props too

[elfin hazel]

I'd imagine implementing seasons after launch would be a lot of work especially 8 years after with a lot of the original devs gone

[agile gyro]

Yeah I kinda figured, still though I wish it was different even if it was like a one time a year thing

But thats my own personal boredom speaking lol

[jagged shell]

Tbh would be really dope, like during warm seasons hyenas or cleaners (whoever the fire guys will be) fire will do more dmg to you, just having statuses be affected by the seasons would be a neat idea to me

[vestal sonnet]

it'll also depends on where they do div3, can't really do snow if they go down south

[agile gyro]

Visual liberties can be an exception.

Jk, seriously though it's probably just gonna be in a different city/town like heartland was supposed to be.

[dense wyvern]

Quick question about the unbalanced chestplate blueprint from unit alloys.

Someone said here yesterday to open reconstructed caches for it but I went and asked the build creator where it comes from and he said level 3-4 control points.

Can anyone else confirm it drops from them and the easiest farming method for it

[jagged shell]

If they follow the theme of locations that have been selected so far, maybe they'll end up in Pennsylvania

[agile gyro]

The named version or unnamed, what one are you talking about?

[dense wyvern]

Its just called "unbalanced chestplate" non named from unit alloys

[elfin hazel]

should be in control points then

[fluid meadow]

Should be from season tiers?

[elfin hazel]

equalizer is in reconstucted caches and they probably got confused

[dense wyvern]

Perfect thankyou!

[agile gyro]

If its named, then yeah reconstructed caches are the way you should go. But if its unnamed then just do control points.

[stuck hamlet]

So I have fully optimized full set of gear now, is my next step to start farming proto gear? Or is it better to do things like expertise farming?

[elfin hazel]

either or

[agile gyro]

I would say expertise farming just so you dont have to rely solely on RNG for your proto drops but 🤷

[elfin hazel]

depends on if you want proto gear now or to be able to make your own

[jagged shell]

Expertise farming is the slow but better grind

[agile gyro]

Slow is an understatement.

[stuck hamlet]

Expertise affects stats on proto gear?

[agile gyro]

You can't prototype items manually if you aren't expertise 30. You can drop them beforehand but its solely RNG based.

[elfin hazel]

^ on the flip side all proto gear drops as expertise 30

[stuck hamlet]

oh I see, that's rough, 30 is a high ask too...

[jagged shell]

If you want to maximally respect your time, my opinion is wait for another proficiency event, play low tier escalations and try to make builds from that. If you are willing to spend multiple weeks grinding expertise though, in the end it will be worth it.

[agile gyro]

Well if it makes you feel any better, once you get to 30, you won't have to do it again.

[stuck hamlet]

And does target loot affect proto drops also?

[elfin hazel]

yes

[agile gyro]

Yes

[fluid meadow]

And if an item is too annoying to proficient there are many other options to go for without worrying about not maxing your expertise cause there are more items to expertise than the max level

[jagged shell]

Well loot allocation, there is no targetted loot per se in escalation

[stuck hamlet]

I have indeed got printer filiments prepped (as much as I can) for the next expertise event

[elfin hazel]

got echo on my lex when prototyping it 🎉

[fluid meadow]

We'll probably get news about the expertise event by 12th of may

[jagged shell]

Is that your BnF Lexington or your main weapon

[stuck hamlet]

Can you proto type exotics?

[elfin hazel]

you cannot

[stuck hamlet]

So mostly my set i'm looking for then?

[elfin hazel]

just an old lexington I had from before tinkerer

[elfin hazel]

gear & weapons yea

[polar thorn]

You're 30 alr?

[agile gyro]

4 levels off

[onyx rivet]

Just hoping for striker loot drop in the excalation again

[stuck hamlet]

I am 18 atm, which i think is okay since i haven't specifically grinded for it or used an expertise event

[fluid meadow]

It's negotiator's today...
I'll hate myself for farming it

[agile gyro]

I'm just grinding out my escal setup since imma get expertise 30 while im doing CD.

[rugged glacier]

no u wont

[elfin hazel]

you're in for the long haul then

[jagged shell]

18 is not bad, I think you should push for 30

[elfin hazel]

^

[onyx rivet]

Im at 15 rn so ur good

[agile gyro]

I went from 4 > 25 in one event so you should be fine...

[fluid meadow]

4 protos 3 non targeted and 1 negotiator's chest with skill damage ❤️‍🩹

[jagged shell]

With a proficiency event I got from 21 to 30 in a week, it is very doable without that event but you're going to spend some serious time in order to do that

[stuck hamlet]

So i need to wait for an Escalation map with my set as the loot allocation and farm that?

[elfin hazel]

yup

[onyx rivet]

Yup

[jagged shell]

We are all crossing our fingers for Striker to return

[stuck hamlet]

Do they post somewhere what the next weeks are or we have to just wait?

[elfin hazel]

nope

[agile gyro]

Wait

[stuck hamlet]

This is the set i'm using so the one I would want also :p

[elfin hazel]

I try to keep the pinned message in here up to date as they refresh though

[onyx rivet]

Expertise only good for guns but now becayse of the proto even gear now is good hahahah

[jagged shell]

You can find out with us every day at 4 AM (EST)

[fluid meadow]

We'll get to know more about future events in 12th of may

[stuck hamlet]

Doens't it change weekly?

[agile gyro]

daily

[polar thorn]

damn, gl agent.

[jagged shell]

The missions change weekly, the loot allocations change daily

[stuck hamlet]

oh the timer on top says 3d 22h so i thought weekly xd ^this would maybe be why 😄

[agile gyro]

I have never wished poor RNG on anyone till I met division 2 CD players.

When will people learn I cant shoot through your whole dome and chest 😭

[stuck hamlet]

And what is de-escalation? 😮

[agile gyro]

Just means ur putting the mission back to normal

[stuck hamlet]

ahh okay don't wanna do that then 😄

[toxic musk]

That tier 5 was fun, a smidge risky at points. But fun

[toxic musk]

Just use something with some decent penetration power

[agile gyro]

Would the oh carol be good for that?

[toxic musk]

Nah. Get that sniper from the Specialist guy

[agile gyro]

OHHH my precious tac-50

[stuck hamlet]

First tier of escalation was way easier than i thought it'd be 😄

[agile gyro]

Bros gonna get obliterated when he gets to 4-5 😭

I can already see it because you jinxed yourself.

[stuck hamlet]

That's alright I don't believe in jinxing :p

[agile gyro]

Whos gonna tell him about the tier scaling in escalation?

[stuck hamlet]

hmm I did T0 but didn't unlock T1 :o? Do they have to be paid for?

[agile gyro]

yes you get escalation tokens per completion so u just gotta buy it, should tell u what button u gotta press to buy the next tier

each completion you can move up a tier iirc.

[stuck hamlet]

Yeah i thought that was so i could farm one mission and unlock tiers on another mission tbh

Do you have to pay every time you do it? Or just to unlock the tier?

[tender wave]

Tier 0 should give you enough tokens to unlock tier 1, etc

You have to pay every time

[stuck hamlet]

Meaning if you fail and lose all your coins yuo go back to tier 0 D:?

[tender wave]

Plus completing a tier in your own session will unlock (make available but you still have to pay) the next two tiers up, but only gives you enough coins to do the next one tier up

[tender wave]

If you stick to a tier you can reliably complete then you will start to stockpile coins, so failure becomes less of an issue. The first time you work your way up though, yes you have to do every tier in turn unless you group up

[stuck hamlet]

And are the enemies the same in every tier? Just with higher stat scaling and Affixs?

[tender wave]

Yup

[flat forge]

heroic has slightly varied spawns, so you will only mostly see the same enemies

[stuck hamlet]

Wait the mission itself has a difficulty as well as the tier?

[cold narwhal]

Dang I alllmost got to witness 2v5 rogue agents v kitsenubi battle but some stupid friendly npc squad interrupted and split them up. So just got to see one rogue vs one kitsenubi support. Rogue won easily 🤣

[flat forge]

What does this mean? The hp and dmg multipliers are scaled off of heroic

[stuck hamlet]

What you said here, implies that Heroic T0 is different to say challenging T0?

[flat forge]

Well I haven’t played challenging is ages so idk if that’s the case for challenging either

[cold narwhal]

T0 is much easier than heroic even if your world is set to heroic or whatever

[tender wave]

No, escalation is all heroic, you can't escalate a challenging mission

[flat forge]

What I meant there is for example: at an encounter you might see 0 or 1 or 2 chungas, you don’t know how many before the mission

[tender wave]

T0 is heroic except for the time limit and lack of boss checkpoint

[stuck hamlet]

So my world difficulty in no way plays a part in my escalation missions?

[tender wave]

Nope

[flat forge]

Right

[stuck hamlet]

Carte confuse the heck out of me then 😄

[cold narwhal]

It is? Damn felt easier

[flat forge]

idk what you got confused by since escalation only scales off heroic

[stuck hamlet]

I feel like T0 has way less elite mobs than heroic has though

[flat forge]

And as opposed to legendary or master the spawns are not always the same

[tender wave]

There's natural variation in the enemies that spawn on all difficulties above Story, it's the same in escalation

[stuck hamlet]

Because you literally said heroic spawns are different, and given that the whole conversation was Escalation ofc I thought this is what you're talking about?

[flat forge]

and escalation is scaled off of heroic… like I clarified when you said you were confused

[stuck hamlet]

Don't worry about it ^^

[stuck hamlet]

Just to back track to this for a second, can I skip tiers if I group with others?

[toxic musk]

Yeah

[stuck hamlet]

And in groups does everyone have to pay the coin cost or only host?

[toxic musk]

You can matchmake for any tier of Escalation

Only host has to pay

[stuck hamlet]

So I can just go straight into farming by matchmaking and skip the tier progress and lack of tokens completly?

[flat forge]

Yes

Wait no, not by matchmaking

by lfg yes but you won’t unlock the higher matchmaking tier yet

[tender wave]

If you matchmake and get put as lead, it's on you to pay the token cost, don't be one of those leeches who just ducks out as soon as they end up the lead.

[toxic musk]

Do show the host courtesy by not rushing headlong into every combat encounter. Though, wasting tokens is, ugh

[stuck hamlet]

I find most people tend to go more rush than I do in my multiplayer experiences tbh :p

I'm going cover to cover and they just running down the middle full sprint mode xd

I'm afraid to get shot, it hurts... xd

[toxic musk]

Being overzealous can be punishing, especially in Escalation

[tender wave]

That happens a lot less in escalation than elsewhere

[toxic musk]

Just have an Uno reverse card in your back pocket

[stuck hamlet]

When I first started playing higher difficulties I had blue cores and like 2.2 mill arm, now i have red cores not even 1 mill armour and feel like every bullet does more than that 1 mill

And what is my optimal starting tier for farming proto gear?

[flat forge]

you’re not likely to get good drops below t5-6

[silent light]

If you're referring to esca.. then there's little to no difference in drop rate nor does the items have better rolls

[ornate crystal]

depends on rng i get some at 2-3

[stuck hamlet]

And where does raiding sit into the progress? Because i've not even looked at those >.<

[flat forge]

Between what

[silent light]

4 and 5

[flat forge]

oh I see

[stuck hamlet]

What tiers do change the loot?

[flat forge]

idk i don’t play at that tier but it’s just what I see people q up for the most in lfg

[silent light]

As far as i know, none

[stuck hamlet]

so tier 1 is same as tier 10 🤔 ?

[flat forge]

Chance of dropping prototype and minimum proto stat roll values

[silent light]

again, drop rate is no difference? Ive seen plenty of guys running 10s and there's neem little to no diff?

[flat forge]

what??

[stuck hamlet]

Interesting 🤔

[tender wave]

There is a difference, run tier 1 and tier 5 and see for yourself

[flat forge]

the 0.8% to 3% is not just there for show

[cold narwhal]

It’s all crap rng. I got 4 drops on a level 4 and none on a 5

[silent light]

no no.. sorry.. i'm a crackhead.. drop RATE is different.. but not drop QUALIty

[stuck hamlet]

Okay so higher tiers is more loot but not better loot basically?

[flat forge]

oh… at least from my experience nearly all pieces I’ve gotten from t10 have higher average rolls than those I’ve gotten at t5

[cold narwhal]

No

[flat forge]

But maybe it’s just me

[stuck hamlet]

Then i'm just lost in the sauce at this point D:

[cold narwhal]

Same amount of, better quality

[tender wave]

That's harder to say for sure because we don't have the data collection, but the devs definitely said there was higher quality in higher tiers when they introduced escalation

[stuck hamlet]

This guy is saying the complete opposite of you beema xd

[silent light]

This is the opposite of what Ive heard

[cold narwhal]

Are you talking about prototypes specifically?

[stuck hamlet]

Yes

[silent light]

of course, what else'

[stuck hamlet]

Other loot like exotics and such?

[cold narwhal]

If so then yes, supposedly you have higher chances for drops the higher the tier. But in practice it’s just rng garbage

[silent light]

Well, thats the same as every other content vs harder content

[fallow idol]

Drop quality is terrible. I haven’t kept a single proto I’ve gotten this far, but I only farm T5

[cold narwhal]

Quality is another subject really

[lunar hare]

it's rng, and no, it's not

[stuck hamlet]

It's not though? 5 directive heroic is same loot as no directive just less exp? Definately harder tho xd

[onyx rivet]

Drops of proto are good get like 4 every run but the quality of the pieces are garbage

[silent light]

If you run countdown.. on HC, you get far more loot than on normal.

(exotics, rares, etc)

[tender wave]

If the stats are the ones you want then proto is always an upgrade to non proto, even if the stat bars look near empty

[cold narwhal]

Would you reroll an alejandro with magazine size (380 vs 200) or keep it.

[fallow idol]

Sheeeeit even uprgrading items from 30 the rolls have been pretty bad. For me at least

[flat forge]

How do you have 90% magazine size

[stuck hamlet]

What are the max crit chance / crit dmg on proto gear?

[feral knoll]

It varies.

[flat forge]

Those are set tho? It’s either 0 or max

[cold narwhal]

🎶it’s all a crap shoot🎶

[fallow idol]

I think when targeted loot is implemented it will get slightly better. Won’t be great, but better….

[flat forge]

It already has been…

[feral knoll]

The minimum possible for proto is the max of non-proto. Beyond that the values are bound by RNG.

[fallow idol]

What

[flat forge]

Yea lol

[stuck hamlet]

So yuo can get like all of your crit chance of 1 proto item if it rolls high enough :o?

[flat forge]

it changes with daily target loot

[cold narwhal]

*354, it was + 280 got them mixed up

[tender wave]

Check the pinned messages in here to see what's targeted today. You get way more target drops than non target ones in general.

[flat forge]

You want crit chance there since big al has no mods

[cold narwhal]

Err sorry not +280

[feral knoll]

I would suggest not expecting perfect rolls, the odds of pegging more than one stat is extremely low.

[cold narwhal]

I usually do crit chance or health dmg on lmg, but big al burns through ammo so fast i kinda like more

[stuck hamlet]

Of course I was talking just hypothetically, I guess I want to aim a lot more at the crit dmg side anyway than the chance since chance is capped

[feral knoll]

Unless you are at expertise 30 and able to roll gear/ weapons directly, it's basically a crap shoot.

[stuck hamlet]

Can you optimize proto gear or it's always just what drops is what you keep?

[feral knoll]

You cannot optimise proto gear.

[stuck hamlet]

No Recalibration either?

[fallow idol]

It’s not the same… if my targeted loot is say, exuro, on retaliation/countdown/summit/etc. the drops will be 75% exuro…. But if I do escalation, if I get a proto to drop, it’s 99.9% whatever that missions loot is.

[flat forge]

It will be added soonTM

Devs mentioned adding recal but no timeline

[stuck hamlet]

That's because the missions specific loot is higher prior than target loot no? So you don't get target loot there at all?

[feral knoll]

It is what we have at present, which is better than the general loot pool that it was prior.

[flat forge]

Mission specific loot is the target loot

[stuck hamlet]

Yeah he means the selected one I believe

[flat forge]

Wdym by selected one since you don’t get to choose on missions w escalation

[feral knoll]

Recal and targetted loot is tba, that's all we know.

[fallow idol]

I haven’t. I’ve had my targeted loot on UA or whatever for weeks and haven’t had a UA drop in escalation at all unless that was the daily loot for that mission

[stuck hamlet]

read this again @flat forge :p

[flat forge]

Oh.. hm

[stuck hamlet]

Because that's how it's designed?

[feral knoll]

Escalation missions are identical to their standard counterparts. You cannot directly target loot for them either.

[tender wave]

It's still target loot, it's just not your choice of target loot, it's whatever is assigned to that mission.

[stuck hamlet]

You need an Escalation mission that is UA in order to get that

[feral knoll]

Escalation targeted loot is identical to standard missions, I am not sure why that confuses people.

[stuck hamlet]

Maybe i just procrastinate until they let me do that xD i'm already late to the party anyway xd

[tender wave]

Some people think that 'target loot' exclusively refers to their choice, like in summit/countdown/retaliations, but that's not what the term actually means in the game

[fallow idol]

Not confusing at all, but “targeted” loot means (to me at least) is I pick it, it drops. Like countdown.

[tender wave]

@rich heart no plugging your own content sorry, rule 4

[rich heart]

It's a streamable link? What content lmao?

[stuck hamlet]

If you go on your map and press R on your keyboard you will also see that missions / zones have specific target loot too, it's only really the missions around the outside of the map that you can use select target on, and some of those even you cna't

[flat forge]

Jus craft a new lmg at that point

[feral knoll]

I mean sure, but if you look at the loot I the standard mission, then the escalation mission, they are the same. Therefore that is what will be the targeted drop. What's happening instead is people are ignoring what the game is literally showing people for some reason.

[fallow idol]

Yes I’m aware, thanks.

[olive stratus]

Hellooo

Haven't touched this game in a long while, damn, I do not remember anything

[rich heart]

100 cores, 4x25 rerolls, no echo.

Just kill me now.

[stuck hamlet]

Point and shoot! And don't get shot

[olive stratus]

Eh, good enough.

[fallow idol]

The reroll costs are another slap in the face as well lol

[tender wave]

Again, that's not what the game or the developers mean when they say Target loot.

[feral knoll]

Be careful what you wish for, if asking for proto recalibration, be prepared for the cost of that. lol. It's not gonna be cheap.

[stuck hamlet]

Honestly I think the none selectable target loot system is very good, i get why people wanted missions they could select in but i think it would have been fine without

[carmine raft]

how many exotic component is needed each gear level 30 expertise?

[elfin hazel]

45

[feral knoll]

Enabling the existing loot target per mission was likely easier to turn on than developing a whole-ass new set of functions to have full player selectable loot for missions. The rotation through gear sets and weapons is far from terrible in the interim.

[carmine raft]

45 only?

[elfin hazel]

45 per piece

[green badge]

Why would you be fine?

[elfin hazel]

guns, skill or gear for 1 item it's 45 exo components

[carmine raft]

from expertise level 1 to 30 = 45 only?

[green badge]

44

[stuck hamlet]

What do you mean sorry xd?

[elfin hazel]

#ask-td2-community message

[carmine raft]

i saw in youtube, level 24 to 25 = 20 pcs exotic

[elfin hazel]

the expertise cost got lowered this season

[green badge]

I'm asking why you would be fine without it?

[stuck hamlet]

I'm saying the game itself would have still be fine without being able to select target loot, all that changes is where you farm

I prefer not to get all my loot form same mission anyway gets kinda boring 😄

[fallow idol]

If I remember from yesterday it was at least 30 exo to get from 20-30

[feral knoll]

I will say as much as the key hunt was a bit ordinary on the drop rate, I have enjoyed just running between CPs and doing random events. It's been pretty chill.

[green badge]

I prefer to have a targeted system. But also, maybe they should have 2 more missions where it's non targeted? The target loot system is a massive win whether in countdown, retaliations, summit and now in escalations is a big QoL for players. The issue is the grind, not the mechanic.

[elfin hazel]

back in my day it used to cost 500 billion exotic components to get to level 2 👴

[feral knoll]

Okay gramps, let's get you back to bed.

Sorry but also sorta not.

[stuck hamlet]

I'm talking about the difference between targeted loot and selected target loot though, so escalation is the system i'm saying is fine, it's the countdown retaliation and summit version I think made farming kinda boring

[feral knoll]

*kofeyh has been timed out*

[elfin hazel]

I wish I could find the numbers for original expertise because it was bad

I just don't remember how bad

[feral knoll]

Selective memory after a period of duress is pretty normal. You probably didn't want to remember.

[elfin hazel]

looking back at some messages

220 per gun 💀

[feral knoll]

Lord have mercy

[elfin hazel]

and thats only for around 21 levels of expertise let alone 30

[green badge]

Didn't really matter it was bad at the time. There was 2 active exploits they ignored to fix which means players today still are over capped on mats and carrying max exotic components.
The cost mainly affects new and returning players.

[elfin hazel]

I would imagine the amount of people who are overcapped are a rounding error in the grand scheme of things

[stuck hamlet]

I accidently fed a bunch of my crafting mats to expertise when I thught donate all would just donate all the mat I had selected, but that's not how that works, ;p

[toxic musk]

I think it would be cool if True Son grenadiers would show their grenade pack

[feral knoll]

Errr

[toxic musk]

Anyway. Howdy

I have got Echo on all but 2 pieces of gear so far

Bulletmaxxing, and all that jazz

[polar thorn]

What's ya grinding, NG gearset?

[toxic musk]

Nah. Just getting Proto cores to feed to my Tipping Scales build. Although, yeah. I should probably get Negotiator's going. Just in case

[polar thorn]

NG should be good for group clearing.
I wanna try NG build with Hollow Mask

[edgy zephyr]

What’s the targeted loot for escalation today? Anything worthwhile?

[green badge]

Yes, OD and NG

Also Bulwark if you fancy updating your pistol build

[tender wave]

Listed in the pinned messages

[full zinc]

I think it woulda been 255 for exp30 on original system.
55exo to exp20 +20exo for each level after that

[lethal moon]

OD Escal targeted?

[silver eagle]

Is there any way to make the shooting range to remember settings? I always need to switch to invulnerable elite for testing and it resets quickly

[obsidian atlas]

nope

[silver eagle]

Damn that would be a nice QoL improvement

[obsidian atlas]

oversighted for the past.....however long the game has been out

[polar thorn]

If they give options to open all 20 crates in one button, that's probably the best update but high chance to crash the server too.

[kind veldt]

OD on rotation

today is a good day

sorry ice cube but today is the day i use my AK

[polar thorn]

what AK

[hybrid ore]

The one they didn't get shot by!

[prisma notch]

Anything worth farming escalation??

[hybrid ore]

OD is good, the 📌 pin has the full list.

[silent mural]

Being able to play TD2 with my new PC has got to be the happiest day in my life

Finally I am no longer the lag guy

[prisma notch]

OD better than Tipping Scales?

[kind veldt]

Lots of gear sets today

Its a strong team DPS buffer that can hold its own

[polar thorn]

DPS, neh but good for your teammates.

[prisma notch]

Hollow point round one?

[kind veldt]

Yeah

[silent mural]

So like a sub-dps?

[lethal moon]

[prisma notch]

Measured assembly any good?

[lethal moon]

Here, have Hollow Points. Free weapon damage amp

[prisma notch]

Feel like it’s meh today

[tender wave]

OD does decent upfront damage and doesn't have to stack either so good in weaker content, plus fairly immune to ammo directives. Not worth it in high tier escalation though.

Meanwhile nego can out dps strikers when you have three adds tagged

[karmic burrow]

Anyone having issue with retal 300% switching from one type to another type when one retal is over?

[prisma notch]

Yes yesterday started 300% true sons and after first match it put me with black tusk for some odd reason

[polar thorn]

OD is good for ammo directives and low-mid game content such as Countdown where the enemies aren't immune to CC effect.

While NG is good for overall situation if you're able to maximize the talent.
Which is what I wanna grind tonight and test it on Escalation soon.

Hollow mask, Fox Prayer, 4 pcs NG

[tender wave]

Nego chest is not a choice I'd take, maintaining that many marks in escalation would be rather hairy, especially when nego users tend to get the most aggro anyway

[polar thorn]

Oh right, that would be bad idea.

Well, either PGC or Equalizer then.

[mighty creek]

Yo, did somebody mention The Stackless Strikers build.

[polar thorn]

is 24% weapon damage better than 8% DTOCC?

[tender wave]

Busy little bee should be a reasonable choice for nego in escalation though if you can give up quickstep, use the bee to mark enemies for nego, then let rip with your main

[polar thorn]

What BLB does for NG enjoyer?

[tender wave]

Although I suppose reloading to get frenzy proc is going to rob you of a chunk of bee uptime

[tender wave]

10% amp damage for each separate target you mark iirc

But only for 10s or so

[polar thorn]

That's cool.

[echo delta]

Yep, constantly. Drives me bonkers lol

[edgy zephyr]

I have someone I’m not kidding who is 112123 SHD

[hybrid ore]

They need to gain another 11k SHD , then retire.

[echo delta]

Had to double take when I realised that said 112+k not 11+k. Yikes

[edgy zephyr]

Crazy work

[zenith urchin]

10 seconds after you switch off the pistol so plenty of time to obliterate the marks

[tender wave]

yeah but you lose 3s or so reloading if you want to take advantage of frenzy

probably still worth it tbf

[zenith urchin]

ehh, you could just use another damage talent if youre that worried about the reload

i think nego could also pair nicely with back and forth or agitator

[frigid merlin]

I saw 208k shd just few days ago, pretty nuts

[jaunty quiver]

What would you guys say the top three exotics weapons to run in the DZ and conflict are?

[tame sail]

Anyone want to farm national bond aramy assignment to to gain XP

[edgy zephyr]

So uh…..this guy might be somewhat legitimate. Bro had 12k hours in the game

I would’ve guessed they had only a couple hundred maybe

[hybrid ore]

@edgy zephyr #rules 12, thanks.

The outcome being good or not, we aren't here to "check up" on players.

[edgy zephyr]

Ope sorry

[mighty creek]

Oh jeez for a second I thought I'm in Resurgence discord server.

There are only 2 exotic weapons in there at the moment, Warlord from Div1 and Lady Death.

Funny how people are forcing Lady Death to work in PvE xd

[ebon parrot]

is there any way to fix the glitched lanterns?? (login in and out doesnt work)

[mighty creek]

hmm I got 68 different exotic items.

[green badge]

Move away and find a Kituname to kill. Go back and it should be active.

[hybrid ore]

If that doesn't work, and you mean the ones that are corrupted but you can't interact with them; try clearing all nearby enemies+activities and trying again.

[jaunty quiver]

So people are running Lady death in the DZ?

[mighty creek]

Uhm no, sorry I dont know.

Lady Death used to be meta during the early days of PvP in Div2 though.

[green badge]

Just a Kitsuname works. Tried and tested. @ebon parrot

[mighty creek]

Its just funny how I'm seeing it again in Resurgence.

[jaunty quiver]

I think my favorite gun is St. Elmo's engine, but I don't know if it's it's good enough to compete with some of these dudes in the DZ

[fierce cypress]

hello guys im new where can i get the St. Elmos engine ?

[jaunty quiver]

Set your targeted loot to rifles and do countdown and then when you get enough points at the countdown vendor, spend those points on exotic caches also

[elfin hazel]

the blueprint to craft it can also drop from true sons retaliation

[fierce cypress]

thank you is it worth playing it in heroic ? or just in challenging

[elfin hazel]

most people matchmake for challenging

[fierce cypress]

okay thank you

[jaunty quiver]

I always do countdown and challenging. It's faster

[fierce cypress]

okay thanks

but is the st elmos engine a good assault rifle for a striker build ?

[jaunty quiver]

I love the gun, I don't know how useful it is for different types of content. I imagine it would be good. Also you could put some status stuff on there to make the shock last longer

[fierce cypress]

okay thanks alot my friend

[polar thorn]

Striker, Big Horn, Lexington
Lots of options

[midnight epoch]

Yes. It’s the generic “I don’t know what to put in this dps build” answer

[mighty creek]

Striker assault rifle my beloved.

[zenith urchin]

and an upcoming resurgence exclusive exotic lmg

[polar thorn]

Striker too common, I saw someone running it with Sheriff 😭

[mighty creek]

who the hell came up with that name? Strawberry Milkshake, for a second I thought someone was joking when he answered my question about it

[zenith urchin]

yummers

[mighty creek]

Its a brand new exotic so hopefully its gonna be good cuz the next one after that is Scorpio

[zenith urchin]

it would be so funny if they base the scorpio on the rcs12

[wise basalt]

proto drops are non-existent playing solo, smh

[glad dew]

where can i get waveform?

[mighty creek]

Targeted loot holster or farm for its blueprint and craft it yourself. Blueprint comes from retaliation against Outcasts.

[glad dew]

@mighty creek thanks

[unborn plover]

resurgence is a game mode?

[mighty creek]

completely different game sir, free to play in mobile and PC from Ubisoft connect launcher

[hybrid ore]

@unborn plover Resurgence is a separate mobile (and now PC) game. You can find a link to the Discord Server for it, over in #social-media

[unborn plover]

oh, true. thanks

[mighty creek]

Well I guess Div2 isnt gonna be free anytime soon.

[tender wave]

hmm, first tier 5 run without a single proto drop, and my previous one only got 2

[wise basalt]

i ran solo t5 on dcd and jtc and the same happened to me

[ebon parrot]

cool but now im stuck at 39/40 and im 200% sure i've passed thru all of them

i guess bugsoft can't lose its meme name

[tender wave]

please use #lfg-pc when looking for players to group with ingame

[winged rose]

Rando question is T3-4 the same proto drop %

[sudden meadow]

according to the info floating around online, yeah.

[fallow idol]

Yes

[mossy goblet]

anyone got ronins I need the last 2 skill appareals to be unlocked

[midnight epoch]

No. It’s like 0.2% different

But the rates are so bad, I would stick to 5+ for sure

[short locust]

Same proto drop chance but t4 has 6% better chance to drop targeted proto

[stone lichen]

someopne wants to help me doing my mqin quests ??

[flat forge]

Where is this 6% from

[naive cradle]

i'm wondering was Faye a villain after all?

[solar geyser]

anti hero?

[winged rose]

Ohh ic

[naive cradle]

maybe
I think she's been brainwashed
that's why she's turned against us

[solar geyser]

or just did the dirty work for the division

[short locust]

These are the targeted loot drop rates
• ⁠Tier 1: 5.0%
• ⁠Tier 2: 11.0%
• ⁠Tier 3: 16.0%
• ⁠Tier 4: 22.0%
• ⁠Tier 5: 28.0%
• ⁠Tier 6: 39.0%
• ⁠Tier 7: 45.0%
• ⁠Tier 8: 50.0%
• ⁠Tier 9: 56.0%
• ⁠Tier 10: 62.0%

[flat forge]

From each enemy?

[woven thicket]

Where do I find groups for black tusk retaliation?

[short locust]

Thats the chance for each dropped prototype to be targeted loot, so even tho t3 and 4 have the same proto drop chance, t4 has a better chance for it to be targeted

[flat forge]

oh I see

[naive cradle]

i wish they added a hornet's outfit it's so cool

[lofty temple]

does changing difficultys award anything like better rolls or something

[valid lava]

Usually the quality is better at higher difficulties

[grave timber]

Another day grinding and another day good

[valid lava]

but it depends on the content you're doing and why you're doing it

[lofty temple]

like rarity?

[grave timber]

50 to 70 cores got and wasted for getting the Best talent on a piece

[valid lava]

better rarity and the rolls are generally a bit higher

[grave timber]

Yes and no

[lofty temple]

oo oki thanks

[grave timber]

I get the high reroll cost and since the drop rates are ridiculous high

Got at least 7 proto drops in dcd on t4

[valid lava]

What difficulty are you currently on?

[lofty temple]

normal im pretty new

[valid lava]

No worries, don't feel like you HAVE to jump straight to hardest difficulty if you're still learning the game

[polar thorn]

T5 is perfect spot tho

[valid lava]

For escalations, yes, but I don't think they're quite at that point yet 😅

[undone timber]

Better minimum rolls on loot

Challenging and above guarantees high ends and above

[valid lava]

minus the 0.3% of time you pull a purple after a retaliation lol

[lofty temple]

i think ill give that a try

[violet flume]

Bro I was getting purples on legendary 😭

[undone timber]

Happens from crates and stuff

[tropic breach]

Whats
The target loot for today in esca

[kind veldt]

check pins

good day if you like gear sets that are good but not meta

[undone timber]

OD and ND goated

MA nice to farm for niche use cases

[kind veldt]

got some upgrades for my OD with better chest, gloves and holster

also hilariously all came with the grenade augment

so i just kinda have a passive 50% grenade damage and range

which honestly kinda good for fire nades

[undone timber]

It's the same reason I'm trying for all atomize on my FI

But also it buffs the chem launcher as well for whatever reason which is a wonderful added bonus

Paradox can also refill it

The chem launcher is so bizarre

[kind veldt]

yeah paradox chem launcher is just a mistery of the universe

[valid lava]

I just wish oxichem was more of a viable build than a meme

[undone timber]

Schrödinger's skill, it's a skill until it isn't

Thing inherits talents and augments that it really shouldn't but it does so we ball

[undone timber]

It is very viable just also very niche

[kind veldt]

it's the tool to save runs against enemies stuck in spawn

[pallid bough]

Honestly i can’t imagine when oxi would be viable lol

[valid lava]

Places with predictable spawn behavior

[undone timber]

That

[valid lava]

i.e. a raid or incursion

[kind veldt]

skilled players can pretty much make the first 2 parts of the incursion easier

snipping the turrets and stacking oxis on heavies spawns

[pallid bough]

That is actually a great example

Completely changed my mind

[green badge]

Thats me fecked then 😋

[kind veldt]

there has been weird cases of healers running BT gloves also overclocking during the DPS phase of love birds and then just dumping all oxi charges

because it will hit both of them for decent damage + the healing box when they drop it

but it's more high risk high reward

[worn token]

I farmed foundry for memes. I want a build where they can't damage me in legendary, even though I know it's ass

[kind veldt]

you can become very tanky with foundry but a lot of the issues become "what now?" in terms of damage

[worn token]

Hence why it's for memes

[kind veldt]

4 piece foundy + pointman chest and probably something silly for backpack could work

[worn token]

Foundry regulus lol

[valid lava]

Foundry Tempest*

[worn token]

Honestly I have no idea, but thought it could be funny

[valid lava]

Become the real meme

[worn token]

Maybe I'll keep you updated xD

Countdown where I can stand in the middle of the hunters, do nothing but never die

[valid lava]

So if FI is a dedicated healer, FB is a dedicated reviver

[worn token]

Dedicated nuisance maybe

Foundry with birdies tho? Idk lol I'll keep you updated

[slim radish]

how long will it probably take to get my exspertise level to max

[worn token]

About tree fiddy

[undone timber]

FI does both though😭

If people are topped off they're not gonna die as often

I'm heavily biased against tank builds cuz they just pump scaling for nothing

[valid lava]

you're not wrong, I was just making a funny

[pine flame]

it finally happened... after years.... i have ran out of credits

[worn token]

This has really similar logic to "if you're homeless, just buy a house"

[valid lava]

it's RNG dependent, but don't expect it to be a 1 week thing

[worn token]

While I agree tank builds are useless, that was a weird way of saying it lol

[valid lava]

I get where he was coming from, good healing makes the need for a reviver redundant

[pallid bough]

Isnt it double resources? Just farm national bond and dump all your points into printer filament and donate it all. Thats what i did, went from 16 to 30 in maybe 3 weeks or so. But i farmed until my brain was fried.

[worn token]

Also it's easier to farm now cause it's not weekly capped

[valid lava]

Double optimization, printer filament doesn't fall in that category

[fallen jacinth]

Printer filament is part of expertise surge

[pallid bough]

Oh yea thats right

hes cooked then

[worn token]

Tbh I hate the name of the events, they're so misleading like no one has any idea what they do

You have to study like a 12 page document to work out which resources are affected by which like youre some maths genius

[valid lava]

or look at the resources tab in game

[worn token]

Which is great if you have the memory of an elephant

[fallen jacinth]

They're really not misleading names, the issue is the lack of explanation where and what is used

[valid lava]

you literally pass by it if you're checking stats....

idk, maybe I'm just OCD

[worn token]

Idk I never remember

[pallid bough]

Ive looked at that tab maybe 7 times in the passed 2 years

[fallen jacinth]

Like optimisation surge is pretty clear, it's any material used to optimise your gear. Same with expertise surge, it's any material used to level expertise. But there could be a better explanation or listing of what those materials are, outside of the resource tab

Game has a serious lack of tutorialisation for a lot of systems, which is weird because when you level up it's hammering you with them and they're pretty good

[worn token]

The thing is though it's kinda of not, because you can use one material to craft the others, which is what most people do, so even claiming that is slightly misleading

[cursive sphinx]

Might be in the minority on this one but make escalation targeted loot!

[worn token]

It has targeted loot

[undone timber]

Escalation has had targeted loot for a couple of weeks already

[crude abyss]

Does anyone know if the Prototype skill gear works with the capacitor? I've heard some people say that it doesnt account for the extra skill tiers?

[pallid bough]

Selected targeted loot*

[worn token]

If you mean choosable, it would be OP, everyone would have a maxed striker build in 3 days

These types of games always trickle content to force you to login every day

[valid lava]

It doesn't, even with all proto gear, you only max at ST6

[cursive sphinx]

No i mean us selecting targeted loot. Like countdown and summit

[pallid bough]

I was all for it when the drop rates were as low as they were. Now i cant agree.

[undone timber]

Don't think selectable targeted loot would be healthy whatsoever

[valid lava]

like retaliation style targeted loot for escalations?

[undone timber]

Everyone sets it to striker runs Lincoln 10 times and never touches escalation again

[crude abyss]

I understand that its maxes at 6 but let's say you get 2 skill tiers from Protype to hit lvl 6. Does it count then?

[worn token]

Issue with skill build prototypes is it rounds down

[undone timber]

Especially with how relatively common proto drops are now I think daily TL is a good mid point

[worn token]

It's broken still because of it, not worth using unfortunately.

[undone timber]

Incentivises you to rotate what you play

[valid lava]

it should

[worn token]

2 pieces should give you 3 skill tier, but it gives you 2

[tribal oasis]

bro where is my crossplay

[worn token]

Idk at some point this season, but that could be 3 months time

[valid lava]

Ohhhhhhhhhh, I see I see, I gotcha now

[tribal oasis]

yah i know but like i thought it was supposed to be april

[crude abyss]

Okay thanks

[worn token]

It was meant to be

[undone timber]

The only announcement we got was sometime in year 8

So anywhere between now and early next year

[worn token]

No, they specifically said April

I went back and looked for it and it specifically says rise up season and also specifically says April in the road map

I thought the same thing till I found it the other day

[pallid bough]

Was there any mention of mouse and keyboard support for consoles once it becomes live

[undone timber]

I severely doubt it would be allowed

[worn token]

It probably wouldn't be added, simply because it gives them more work

[valid lava]

Isn't a lot of MKB support handled through the consoles instead of individual games?

[devout river]

mnk should be the console lol

[worn token]

Games can toggle it on or off

[valid lava]

Ah gotcha, I haven't been on console in a while

[devout river]

ps5 has MnK support

[pallid bough]

It would make sense. Why let us play with and against mouse and keyboard if we arent allowed its just stupid or lazy

[worn token]

The PS3 had MnK support, it's just Devs disable it because they don't want you using a mouse

[devout river]

thats wierd

[worn token]

Console used to be all about people all being on a level playing field, now with stupid controllers and macro kits and stuff it's kinda of irrelevant

[devout river]

is ubisoft STILL having issues with the store. i still havent gotten my credits

[sharp ginkgo]

“I severely doubt it” you do realize, ubi added MNK to siege console right?

[kind veldt]

yes and no to that question

[sharp ginkgo]

The day and age where you can complain about MNK is over, only thing to doubt is how well you can keep up on a controller

[kind veldt]

they punish people for using on it and trying ot matchmake on the wrong thing

[sharp ginkgo]

No that was actual cheating via xim

[kind veldt]

that why it puts you in another type of matchmaking if you are not using controllers

[sharp ginkgo]

Siege as of siege X, had announced MNK support for console and I believe it’s been ingame for awhile now

Using MNK rightfully puts you against other MNK though

[kind veldt]

and if you are mimicking one using alternative mehtods you get punished

[sharp ginkgo]

New consoles arent like the ps4. They can compete in terms of entry level competitive with MNK compatible no problem

[kind veldt]

anyhow thats a bit off topic since it's about less legal stuff in another game, understand the it was for another point, but i think lingering on stuff you cant do in siege is not productive

[sharp ginkgo]

It’s not a punishment to put you into a lobby with other mouse and keyboard users. How on earth do you even come to that conclusion

Did you think you could plug it in and play against controller players and gain an ego ?

It putting you into MNK lobbies isnt a punishment. Thats a feature working as it is suppose to work.

Every officially supported MNK on console game does this.

[kind veldt]

talking about xim stuff

[sharp ginkgo]

Yeah, I was talking about normal MNK functionality from the start.

I said xim was cheating and moved on from that lol.

You still said it’s a punishment to play in MNK lobbies when using one yourself which is super weird

Did you expect to play against controller players?

[kind veldt]

they punish if you use it AND try to get around to matchmake on the wrong thing

[granite temple]

is the server down?

[elfin hazel]

no

[woven thicket]

Anyone fancy going for the pact on master difficulty

[ebon maple]

Didn't they say they fixed tinkerer and proto gear like last patch or was I hallucinating that?

[undone timber]

Apparently its still not working as intended

[ruby flax]

hello, i just got a prototype First Bloom from the event gear cache, is it possible to get a prototype Lexington aswell?

[undone timber]

No

[ebon maple]

Thats a shame, but thanks for the info

[polar thorn]

tipping scale is just doing his job man.

2B damage at the end of mission, my man.

[ruby flax]

you cvan only get first bloom prototype?

[wanton nest]

yes

[ruby flax]

thanks!

[wanton nest]

well not only

[polar thorn]

There's other named prototype but def not Lexington

[edgy fable]

No, other items too. Just not a Lexington

[polar thorn]

Would be broken if they allow Prototype Lexington to be obtainable via chest

[edgy fable]

Not broken just unwanted from their POV

[ruby flax]

ive been grinding keys for my first lexington all evening, got it, then got a prototype first bloom, so i thought well now i have to grind for a prototype lexington

[indigo mountain]

actually, I got a Prototype Harvest as well a couple hours ago

[green badge]

Lexy cant drop proto from cache. I'll DM you full guide of what can

[polar thorn]

imagine 100 proto lexington because of 1st day event

[undone timber]

Just seasonal named items

Harvest, hand basket, chill out etcetera

[ruby flax]

thanks but no need, i got my lexington! i just tought i had to grind even more when i noticed you can get prototopes from the cache

[regal galleon]

How much worse is a proto striker build with salvo rather than hollowman? I've seen suggestions that salvo is an alternative, but I haven't heard or seen any comparisons. I haven't been able to obtain a red rolled hollowman so I'm curious how salvo compares

[small spear]

salvo is probably the worst out of contractor, hollow man and it to proto, cuz you only gain 2.5% rate of fire from it, value is a lot lower than 7% dth or 4% dta

[hardy roost]

anyone got a reccomendation on how to farm exotic caches?

[wind falcon]

retail

[edgy fable]

Prototyping Salvo is pretty useless

[edgy fable]

Retaliations or Countdown

[regal galleon]

If a build uses it, it's worth it for augmentation.

[polar thorn]

for escalation, Hollow Man Mask is best investment.

[edgy fable]

Prototyping Salvo should be on the very bottom of your list

[polar thorn]

Hollow Man 1st, Contractor 2nd

[regal galleon]

I get that, but I haven't been able to obtain one. Haven't found anyone hosting a houndsman lobby and haven't gotten the blueprints yet. I have contractors though, so I guess I'll proto that soon.

[edgy fable]

Fox's too

[regal galleon]

OK. I have a Fox's as well.

[polar thorn]

Oh right,

Hollow Man 1st
Fox 2nd
Conttactor 3rd
Salvo 4th

[polar thorn]

Mind you, my Hollow Mask is main blue core, 2 red cores 😭 it's quite sad ngl.

[edgy fable]

An item only has one core tho

[polar thorn]

but I'm able to cheese 2B damage with tipping scale which is good

[glad bough]

How do you Matchmake for retaliation? I mean, when i press match make in the retaliation tab, i start one and others join on me, i never join on others. i want to join on others.

[brave idol]

can i use punch drunk if i dont have red core hollow man?

[polar thorn]

sub-cores but watever basically 1 blue, 2 reds

[edgy fable]

No

[polar thorn]

Neh.

[edgy fable]

Attributes lol

[polar thorn]

it's 2 am here, but yes that.
I should sleep soon

My build is

Hollow Man, Fox Prayer, 4 pcs tipping scale.

58/108

[regal galleon]

What's the rest of your build? I'm partial to tipping scales, but I've seen groups advertise no TS for higher level escalations. Basically only Strikers for DPS.

[edgy fable]

Log out and back in. That usually helps me

[polar thorn]

Oh right, I use mk46 with frenzy to build stack fast

[edgy fable]

The quick stack loss with TS is annoying af. Damage wise it's good

[polar thorn]

But you can use other LMGs too

[fierce cypress]

can someone help me where can i get the lexington or what is the fastest way

[polar thorn]

I always have empty magazine to abuse the frenzy talent

[midnight epoch]

Sakura Gear Caches

[polar thorn]

I wonder if there's gonna be kneepads or holster with health damage in the future so I can swap Hollow Man with Tinkerer and slap one weapon with Killer talents

[edgy fable]

You know that this doesn't synergize, right?

Tipping Scales builds stacks over time and fast firing LMGs just tend to waste more ammo doing that

[midnight epoch]

Stoners always win

[edgy fable]

Go away lol, but you get it

[glad bough]

thanks. i guess i'll give that a try. but its been like this for a couple days now and i've logged of and back in many times.it always creates a lobby, never has me join a lobby. i ask google and all it gives me is join a generic call for backup and HOPE its a retaliation.

[polar thorn]

Well, I never run any of ammo with that tactic tho but it's not ideal either

But I do love myself the RPM bonuses from frenzy

[edgy fable]

IDC what you run, just mentioning it

[polar thorn]

I understand ya, don't worry.

But still, frenzy is a must nowdays for escalation so you can melt the enemies fast.

Frenzy, large magazine, echo = easy 2B

[sage thicket]

Would Hollow Man with a blue core and double red attributes maxed (health and crit damage) be better than Contractors or Fox?

I do have one but since it's got a blue core I've used a Ceska holster, Contractor's and 4pc Striker.

[polar thorn]

No, you want red core and 2 red attributes for it.

[sage thicket]

So before I find a unicorn I want to use Ceska and Contractor's, or do I switch to Contractor's and Fox's Prayer?

[edgy fable]

That's OK. Since everyone and their mothers runs the build with DtH you can run it with DtA and focus on those NPCs first

[polar thorn]

^

[edgy fable]

Try getting a Hollow Man over time then

[hardy roost]

is st elmos shield build and pestilence build very good?

[polar thorn]

Not having Hollow Man doesn't mean you can't do damage

[edgy fable]

Show your build in #td2-build-advice

[frigid merlin]

why is it every time I prototype type a red gearset, only 1 stats gets maxed, but when I it's a skill gearset, it's both stats maxed

[sage thicket]

Oh that's next on my list right after I find a suitable The Setup.

[sage thicket]

Right. So I'll equip Hollow Mand and Contractor's, right? Or Fox's?

[polar thorn]

You can run one of them with Hollow Mask

My choice would be Hollow + Fox since it has 8% DTOCC

[fierce cypress]

whats the best way to farm the event keys ? on what difficulty ?

[edgy fable]

Contractor's instead of Hollow Man, for now. Or Fox's

[wanton vapor]

try getting both then u can swap your build accordingly - for example on white oak there's a part with only elites so i swap to contractors

[fleet sinew]

do i need to max my gear attribute to max 1st before prototype it?

[feral knoll]

Heroic. Make use of priority missions in open world.

[cobalt dove]

Is the apparel store also broken for you guys?

[obsidian atlas]

the same five songs, the same five songs, the mouth from the south plays same five songs

[feral knoll]

Come for the fish tacos, stay for the company.

[flat forge]

No

[sage thicket]

Ok, so Ceska and Contractor's.

[flat forge]

Because the skill tier doesn t count as the guaranteed maxed stat so it picks another

[feral knoll]

I should find the OD spreadsheet.

[brave idol]

anyone else seeing server shutdown imminent message?

[feral knoll]

Log out, wait about 15 seconds, log back in. Servers can periodically restart.

[azure saffron]

Yeah I have that

[sage thicket]

There's also a choice to do Fox's and Contractor's. Or Ceska.

[feral knoll]

Hmm, I should swap out backpack for Ceska. Also back to Bluescreen for primary.

[zenith urchin]

going to start doing my retals, hopefully they will glitch and turn into black tusk

[feral knoll]

I should run a couple black tusk, want to craft tinkerers but need the diamond whatever's for it.

[zenith urchin]

i need the diamonds

[feral knoll]

I also need the diamonds. :/

So many little widgets needed for everything.

[regal galleon]

So Equalizer out of the picture now for Escalations?

[edgy fable]

It's good up to T5 I might say

[fallow idol]

After T4 I’d say yeah

[edgy fable]

Come T5 and above you really need more damage

[zenith urchin]

delta 3 in a retal, yay

[regal galleon]

So is contractor's glove and fox's prayer the best combo for both Strikers and Tipping Scales if you don't have an all red hollowman?

[edgy fable]

#td2-build-advice message

[midnight epoch]

It doesn’t do anything. You can just play like normal through the server restart

[fierce cedar]

What's the best Escal to be farming rn out of all of them?

[inland widget]

DCD is such a nice mission for farming escalation omg

it was raining proto last night in T5 and runs were only taking 15 mins 😍

I did 3 runs and got 16 drops

[feral knoll]

nice!

If I can get to tier 3 without have a mild panic attack I'll be doing well.

[jade dome]

If you just want the cores stranded tanker

[inland widget]

Whichever has highest enemy spawn. I was running DCD hoping for proto equalizer or w/e the named chest is with perfect obliterate

[fierce cedar]

And the gear sets change daily right?

[zenith urchin]

i ran out of time because team 9 spawned on a control point

[inland widget]

targeted loot changes daily I believe yes

I've run probably 30+ escalations at this point, still yet to get a single piece of proto gear i've wanted to keep...

[wise terrace]

i need to do the rescue mission (green hangcuffs icon) but I cannot see it anywhere on the map. any suggestions how to make it appear on the map? I mean the green hangcuffs

[feral knoll]

Getting an all red ceska backpack gonna take a bit I guess. Crafting probs use up all materials. Eh, I'll give 'er a go.

[inland widget]

Ugh I ran into that problem last week. It doesn't spawn very frequently >.<

[jagged shell]

Just hit that log out button until you get it king

[wise terrace]

just got it right after resetting control points

[sharp adder]

is itr against the terms of service to modify the gameUserSettings.ini file?

[uneven marsh]

Hello 👋

[lilac crystal]

hello, me and my friend just started this game and reached the endgame. I heard about the pistol to run faster. Is there any1 who still have the bounty thing and invite us pls 🙂

[daring gust]

Try liberating control points over on the west side of dc where the outcasts hang around, usually I get lucky around foggy bottom/west end

[inland widget]

Why are people so obsessed with quickstep?

yes run fast, but really save time?

[edgy fable]

I guess you will find out soon when everyone is ahead of you and you can't keep up

[inland widget]

haha I've already got one 😛

[edgy fable]

Looter shooters are repetetive, that movement speed bonus in a running simulator is priceless

[random laurel]

Gotta burn those calories

[edgy fable]

You try to save as much time as possible

[inland widget]

Yeah I guess so haha. Also has escalation changed in some way? DCD last night was hella easy and proto was really raining from the sky...

[feral knoll]

no?

[thick scaffold]

they should give sheriff a 2nd perk where melee with it does 100+ melee damage cuz the bayonet

[zenith urchin]

the black tusk retal bug is so weird

[flint palm]

Even if melee is completely useless it would be a nice touch

[inland widget]

Maybe RNGesus just appreciates my new build

Rewarding me for trying something other than strikers for the first time in years

[feral knoll]

yeah I mean recent updates have improved drop rates with the mission targetted loot. RNG tho, so yep, luck.

[inland widget]

T5 was really quite easy. Might go even higher tonight

T6/T7 is a pretty big increase in drop chance actually looking at the update

[pallid bough]

T6 is when it starts to get spicy

[inland widget]

T6 could be a sweet spot maybe.

[feral knoll]

tier 2 already stresses me.. lol.

[pallid bough]

I agree, not super crazy hard and i get pretty consistent drops

[pallid bough]

you get used to it

[inland widget]

Escalation has improved my skill tbh

I really enjoy tipping scales too. It's quite easy to maintain stacks given there is an enemy suppressed pretty much all the time

[zenith urchin]

it consumes and replaces one of the other faction retals - thats understandable, probably has to do with team 9 being able to spawn in all of them
but it doesnt let you chain the rest, which doesnt happen when you finish an actual black tusk retal

anyways only 15 diamonds until i get to craft bighorn

[plucky burrow]

Hello

[feral knoll]

oh nice, proto OD holster

[inland widget]

I could probably do with getting proto hardwired

easier to get pieces I need if i'm not waiting for CHC/CHD attributes lol

[tardy falcon]

Hi
I would like to write about a problem I noticed lately...
I bough a Playstation portal and I noticed that my beloved game it's not available for streaming....
Can do something about it Ubisoft or Sony?!!!
Pleaseeeeeee....

[feral knoll]

tier 3 escalation, terrified, lol.

[jagged shell]

You got this

[sharp adder]

i have paid 12 dollas and got both expansions

[inland widget]

you'll be fine! Just take your time and stay in cover

Don't be afraid to 'blind' shoot over cover also...

[feral knoll]

yeah no, well, that was short lived.

[inland widget]

build?

[feral knoll]

mistake, accidentally leapt over cover.

back to tier 1.

it's all good practice and what not

[fossil lotus]

guys I WANTED TO DO HOUNDMASN BUT GOT HOLLOW MAN BP IN RECONSTRUCTED CAHE AHAHA

[edgy fable]

Good luck getting Yaahl fabric now :>

[magic rock]

I realized that escalations is warhammer darktide version of havoc mode

[fossil lotus]

why would i need that

[edgy fable]

To craft a Hollow Man

You'll need five per craft

[feral knoll]

-1946m damage, getting there, counter wrapping around.

[inland widget]

nice! What build are you using?

[feral knoll]

OD

[fossil lotus]

oh ive already got what i need its maxed now

[feral knoll]

OD mask, weapon damage+chd, yeah nice.

[mild meteor]

first god rolled proto piece i've gotten with decent specs and it's a Legatus 😆

the RNG trolls are ruthless in this game

[inland widget]

hahaha

I've deconstructed every single mf proto i've got. I'm so desperate for some CHC/CHD striker pieces haha

Any decent targeted loot for escalation today?

is there somewhere online I can check

[edgy fable]

check pins in this channel

drib seems to update daily for now 👍

[inland widget]

<33333333333

Nothing I want or need lol RIP

[edgy fable]

DCD and JTC are worth

[inland widget]

yeah true. I don't use either tho haha

I see a lot of people with their damage appearing bottom left of their screen. How do I get that?

[edgy fable]

Idk how that works on console - on PC it's in the chat window options

[feral knoll]

Under chat > Combat Info + Damage Numbers

[inland widget]

ah ok i'll check later

i use xbox so may not work. I get annoyed in long fights when my dmg numbers disappear

[rapid ledge]

well this event sucks ass. can't even get the ninjas to spaen let alone get any keys

[feral knoll]

the ronin only spawn if you take on squads, and are rare.

heoric also improves key chances a bit

[edgy fable]

Nah they're just rare; they can spawn when solo but possibly even more rare

[feral knoll]

game pls; Heroic CP, then Rouge Agents, then in the middle of managing them, how about some Kitsunabi? Sure why not.

[mighty creek]

I just found out that recalibration is RNG in Resurgence... 💀

[feral knoll]

oop, relog time, can't interact with any chests

[brave idol]

you are in elysium and you're already dead

[mossy robin]

Is the dlc mandatory for important content or something? Not willing to buy them due to currency difference

[feral knoll]

ronin love to spawn in, look at you, drop a turret, and then just leave because apparently that's normal.

[mighty creek]

Warlord of New York is the most important one.

[remote lynx]

Finally a 6% chc gear mod dropped after a year or so lol

[mighty creek]

You cant access some of gears if you dont have it i think.

[lethal moon]

Here, you can handle literally everything in the game at once right?

[sage silo]

can someone help me run pentco fairview power plant? i cant find anyone on any matchmaking

[zenith urchin]

accurate representation of most skill build players

[prisma notch]

Was just thinking same, nothing to do now so bored

[lethal moon]

You did them dirty. But I don't think any of them are gonna disagree.
"That Hunter looked easy for my turret and drone... and then they killed me."

[tropic breach]

woooooow really Td2? getting out of bounds boots you out of the escalation? what a pnssy!

[umbral oak]

I mean you are leaving the mission, but admittedly it should just warp you back to the edge or something

[tropic breach]

I was just advancing the spawning npcs didnt know its gonna boot you out of the escalation which is stupid while they ask us to pay tokens pnssy af

[mossy imp]

I've been having a bug lately where after defending the control point it's just stuck. It doesn't say I took it and the npc backup is on alert still

But no more enemies are coming

[umbral oak]

I think I've had that happen a couple times

[remote lynx]

the LMG sound bug is still around lol

[mossy imp]

Like last time, if I ran far enough away from the control point and came back, I had to re-defend it over again and then I took it

[tropic sentinel]

Yeah there are some bugs with enemy spawns on specific cps. Or more commonly friendly npcs get stuck in combat/dragged away.

[wraith rose]

Hi I’m trying to get all the corrupted paper lanterns but I can’t get inside the National Building Museum for the life of me.

I’ve seen online that you need to do a side mission to open the door but I seem to have done all the available side missions and it’s still not open? Anybody got an idea on how to get inside?

[silent light]

Damn, servers really do be fried atm

[lethal moon]

I did notice during one of my DCD runs that there was a couple hiccups in the connection that everything stopped for a second.

[silent light]

I cant even log in now haha

Stuck at 0% loading.

[viscid mulch]

MIKE-01 at it again!

[lethal moon]

TFW you get a double proto drop and both have useless augments

[sage thicket]

Augments you can change. The attributes and talents, however.

[lethal moon]

I ain't using cores to reroll augments. I'd rather scrap them to save up.

[lunar iris]

I get on to grind for some tipping scales gear and the servers are taking a break while on the clock

[lethal moon]

Mmmm Tipping Scales

[silent light]

If you get the right weapon, with maxed out, correct stats, and the right talent. Youre sure as hell not gonna scrap it.. You will re-roll that augment until you get what you want until the end of days lmao

[lethal moon]

I mean not wrong. But it's armor pieces since I'm going for OD pieces. Also T2 so the rolls are not all that great all things considered...

[feral knoll]

delta-03 in middle of tier 3 escalation; knew I should have relogged first.

[jagged shell]

hope you weren't host

[feral knoll]

solo, so yep, goodbye tokens.

queue is back, nice.

hurray no tokens how cool, amazing.

[fervent sierra]

Hit level 30 in TDR today felt nice

Just 10 more levels till I'm at the current max

[gray flame]

What do you mean the current max

[fervent sierra]

I do hope the things they've added or whatever to both games td3 and TDR they will improve in td3

[gray flame]

Oh wait you said division resurgence

[fervent sierra]

Yea resurgence might have a higher max level then td2

[gray flame]

TD2 has no max level

[jagged shell]

I hope my device can actually run it now, for a month since launch it would crash for me before even loading the game up

[fervent sierra]

It does which is level 40

[mighty creek]

Theres SHD level in Resurgence but its actually just Commendation level in Div2.

[fervent sierra]

Shd is irrelevant

I do wish we can ads with iron sights and non sights/ optics that are 3x in td2

It's a bit annoying switching from TDR n td2 sometimes when I have the option

[arctic ruin]

if i craft EB or ravenous from blueprint do i get the reconfigure blue print from vendor at boo ?

[torn wagon]

can i redo the content creators projects to get those exotic materials on another character?

[deft basalt]

Returning player from 2022, just got the Lexington and then Prototype First Bloom back to back in my first 10 or so caches. How rare is that??

[jagged shell]

Extremely

[deft basalt]

I saw on YT most aren't even prototype. Doesn't it usually just drop regularly as legendary?

the lexington also has max roles 💀

[edgy fable]

That's normal

[deft basalt]

first bloom as prototype is?

[edgy fable]

the lexington also has max roles

Proto Bloom is rare

[jagged shell]

Idk if its normal to get Proto Bloom and Lexington in ab 10 caches, but its a nitpick

[lethal moon]

I just had a civy patrol charge at a Black Tusk heavy with... a golf club.

[feral knoll]

that's enough DCD for now I feel. Managed 2 pieces of OD that have CHD, CHC.

[polar thorn]

I'm awake.

[lethal moon]

The ones I've gotten have been like health and skill damage. My depression. 😭

[jagged shell]

Broo my Resurgence still crashes nonstop on my device man

[feral knoll]

Actually, one is CHD the other is Handling; both red tho

Stuff it, one more run. Then I'll do something else.

[ocean oxide]

Anyone got a level 100 summit checkpoint they can give me?

[edgy fable]

#lfg-pc

[toxic musk]

Go back to sleep

[jagged shell]

The way the Loot allocations are going, you'll probably see OD again in the next 2 days 🥲

[torn wagon]

did anyone actually did the content creator projects on other character for exotic material?

[polar thorn]

@toxic musk My body says no, gotta grind.

[feral knoll]

that'd be great!

[toxic musk]

I weep for the quality of randos you're gonna get in Escalation, should you do that

I think I'm at my Breaking Point (brand set) with Div 2 this evening

[night crest]

More than likely one of the other events got aggro and need to do that to get the completion

[feral knoll]

yep, that's definately enough DCD.

[dim frigate]

Is it still possible to get big Alejandro?

[edgy fable]

Of course

It's in general exotic loot pool by now

[dim frigate]

So just do like countdown with targeted lmg?

Or better to do retal?

[edgy fable]

Any activity with Targeted Loot, could also be a random world drop and it comes from exotic caches

[dim frigate]

Gotcha thank you Much appreciated

[mellow crescent]

nobody raids anymore?

[edgy fable]

If you don't find ppl here try the Division 2 Community discord and the GCROCK discord

[dim frigate]

Most of the raid exclusives are now in retal so most people just doing those easier to do and understand for those that struggle

[mellow crescent]

tthe only gun i want is in a raid ofc

[silk apex]

I got Big Alejandro from a Sakura Key

[dim frigate]

Which one?

[mellow crescent]

regulas

[edgy fable]

For what?

#fanart-and-photomode possibly

[mossy imp]

I finally got a tactical assessment bundle blueprint. Hyenas

[tropic breach]

damn escalation matchmaking is hard when you want a specific loc to escalate to

[thorny basin]

did they actually buff the key drops? i've still only gotten two in the last hour

[lethal moon]

I mean I'm averaging one key each squad.

[thorny basin]

i'm getting about 1 every 1.5-2 squads, but it feels like i'm getting less squads than before

[feral knoll]

Consistency seems to matter to some extent; it's RNG but sticking it out seems worth. Also heroic is pretty much required, otherwise the drop rate is.. bad.

[thorny basin]

thats funny, the other night people were saying no difference on drop and spawn rates amongst the difficulties

[shut widget]

I just started running escalation tonight and I googled the drop rates and is there really no point of running tier 4 vs tier 3?

For prototype gear

[robust locust]

Love how there is no way to leave a team if you go down and other player is AFK in mission. So im stuck in this BS

[radiant prism]

damn these delta-3s, ever since the latest event it's 5 or 6 in the first 15 minutes of trying to play

[robust locust]

I get one of them each play through

then i log back and its fine rest of the night

[rough plover]

Yeah been getting em bad last 15 minutes or so. Every couple mins

[analog coral]

does tinkerer work with prototypes?

[polar thorn]

nope, at least for now.

[lean stump]

does no one play summit anymore

[polar thorn]

people been grinding escalation rn

[hearty raft]

So I haven’t been able to play much, is escalations worth grinding or?

[kind veldt]

Do you want stronger gear with more random grind?

[feral knoll]

It's div2, the whole point is to get stronger, so yes.

[hearty raft]

I mean yes but is it worth playing as a solo player?

[feral knoll]

I don't know, is it worth putting effort in for stronger gear?

[kind veldt]

I just matchmake for tier 3-5

More people more chance for more gear

Cant comment much for solo

[feral knoll]

There is a reasonable chance for a drop in tier 2. It gets better at higher levels, but potentially want to matchmake from t4 onwards.

[robust locust]

I dont get why so many are obsessed with DCD right now

[edgy fable]

OD proto drops

Not that it's useful in Escalations but nice to have

[lunar tapir]

how much its the cap of damage thats show on at the end of the missions?

[robust locust]

Its garbage lol ive just been destroying every piece i get

[edgy fable]

2.14b before it goes negative due to an integer overflow

[feral knoll]

I managed 2 all red proto OD

[lunar tapir]

thx

[edgy fable]

It's great to support your team but not for all activities

[tender urchin]

LFG escalation level 4 bank

[feral knoll]

#lfg-pc agent.

[eager talon]

Can the equalizer drop in count down or is this limited to named caches?

[lunar tapir]

whats a 360° kill?

[winged rose]

Was wondering the same

[lunar tapir]

it can drop both from enemies there and from the named cache

[agile gyro]

I’m ashamed to say I’ve spent the past like 5 minutes wondering what’s different about your username, and I only just realized it’s neater.

[polar thorn]

you cant type it?

[agile gyro]

@polar thorn I can but idk why I feel the need to stare at it still.

[polar thorn]

😭

[agile gyro]

I swear if yall take that out of context

[polar thorn]

got myself cleaners tactical assessment, nice.

[feral knoll]

Bow chica wow wow.

[lean stump]

lucky

[agile gyro]

About how many control points did that take you

[polar thorn]

Now I don't have to go NYC- wait, I need decoy.

[polar thorn]

I got it from escalation.

[agile gyro]

.....

[polar thorn]

a.

[agile gyro]

Mine took forever to drop 😢

[lean stump]

didnt realise u could get it from escals

[polar thorn]

it gives BP every single time you completed it which is nice bonus.

[iron halo]

Idk admins if i can advertise it here

[polar thorn]

try here #td2-clan-recruitment

[iron halo]

Okay thanks

[toxic musk]

Thinking about how the civilians expect me to be taller. That and how I Proto'd a Quickstep for the love of the game