td2-general-chat

[lyric warren]

cringe

was gonna see if i could enter at lvl 2 and do stuff for fun haha

[azure lintel]

Ik there was an exclusive one that was a clone by a different name

[jagged prism]

That's what I remember. Gotta do a bunch of things and they'll be like go here and you get to go in a mini dz tutorial

[stark heron]

Maybe you're thinking of the wony preorder bonus

That was a shotgun with pummel, but couldn't be optimised or something

[azure lintel]

Possibly it’s been forever since I got the preorder

[stark heron]

Something with the police pack ig

Its a mid shotgun

[azure lintel]

Yeah but it’s also rare so smth to show off even if you never use it

[hybrid ore]

It's actually in TL if you own it. dtooc helps with the sucking.

[azure lintel]

Tl?

[hybrid ore]

Targeted Loot, it's the little icon on missions/zones/etc that is the loot you're more likely to get from there.
Can be modifiable via Directives, can pick your own in Countdown/Summit.

[azure lintel]

Ah ik what targeted loot is just not familiar with the shorthand

[stark heron]

You can also just get it by making a new agent and getting to the respective BOO

Goes straight to stash

[hybrid ore]

You may be thinking of a different gun, as the Enforcer does not get sent to a new character.

[stark heron]

Probably got patched or smth

It did work for the enforcer at some point

[hybrid ore]

I have not seen that once in almost 6 years.
I've also never heard of it happening.

[lyric warren]

killed maybe half of an lvl 11 control point at lvl 2, before i got sniped :/

[stark heron]

Classic

Heavy gunners and snipers can be your nightmare

[azure lintel]

My biggest nightmare is the support team

[jagged prism]

Yes, kill go to the left side and be like I'm done finally! Then you get shot by a guy you downed on the right side, then you see the medic....

[azure lintel]

I’m not talking abt in game

Though the medics are a major pain esp the elites

[tiny oar]

meh

to me its the grenadiers

and in div 1 theyw ere way worse, they used to stagger u before you get hit lol

[azure lintel]

Last season it took me hours to clear that black tusk bounty in ny with the support named it was awful

[hexed talon]

First Countdown after the server reset and everybody was crashing like crazy. I hope it's not going to stay like this moving forward, lol

[hexed talon]

Ah, screw it. Won't bother with Countdown for the foreseeable future. Too time consuming and tedious for poor rewards.

[lunar hare]

Tell that to almost everyone here that has been doing CD since release.

[jagged prism]

look what Nevahex. Server reset and everybody crashing in CD

like i imagine. spend 10 minutes in MM get in and everyone else leaves because not enough to run it so. back to DC go in MM again and hope next CD noone leaves/gets booted by the game

[dire patrol]

Ran into 3 different lurker hunters around the Monument in less that ten minutes. Odd to see that many, unless something changed

[jagged prism]

i'd say rng not being rng honestly

maybe they like your Cologne you're wearing?

[dire patrol]

Indeed

[real creek]

There is a hunter puzzle down there and I think that's why there are so many there.

[dire patrol]

New puzzle?

[jagged prism]

that the one where you get mutiple hunter spawn?

[dire patrol]

I was wondering if it had anything to do with completing Keener mission

Multiple hunter spawn is near the Christmas tree, somewhere ish

[jagged prism]

been so long, i don't remember much. just remember 1 of them gave yo mutiple hunters and usually best with a few friends helping to get them in 1 shot

but i hope someone figures out that last hook

think people been saying might be a DLC mask we have to watch out for

[real creek]

The monument where you salute the graves and press a button in the CP loot room.

[jagged prism]

i hope the hunter mask in DLC will be an awesome looking one

[real creek]

If they have that black back strap no hat wearing traits it's all meh from me.

[jagged prism]

hell, i'd love if they put like Keeners face on it just for the laughs or something of that sort

[raw minnow]

So Jack from Borderlands lol

[dire patrol]

But these had no names. Three different points all around the Monument. Cleared Monument, one spawned to the edge of the area. Moved to an Execution side mission, one popped up. Moved to another Execution and another popped up. This last one I managed to chase for a few secs off a building into the street

[raw minnow]

It's hints that the DLC is coming out for Christmas

[jagged prism]

id say early next year to maybe sometime half of next year (> <)

[raw minnow]

So Christmas 2025, got it lol

[jagged prism]

roflmao!

[raw minnow]

Speaking of hunters, I really need to finish the NY ones but those last two keys seem so annoying

[jagged prism]

OH, yes christmas 2025 and we'll get DIv 3 on top of it XD

[raw minnow]

You can only play D3 if you finish the D2 DLC, it all makes sense

[jagged prism]

roflmao

could you imagine that though? you buy d3 start it up. oh you're missing some content in div 2. you can't play this until you meet these requirements. then you go back to div 2 and look for what you're missing?

[undone light]

Cant buy anything with textiles in apparel store, it says failed. is that a common issue?

[jagged prism]

no clue, haven't had anything i wanted to buy with textiles

[undone light]

A matter of fact, it allowed me to buy blue quality items with no problem, but it doesnt when i try to buy purple and gold ones which have textiles price tags on them.

[jagged prism]

maybe you already have them and that's the game saying "you have these already!"

or you're not pressing the "buy with textiles button"?

but i wouldn't put it past the devs to break it when fixing something else in game (> <)

[glacial breach]

Hi

[raw minnow]

What's everyone's thoughts on best use of global event stars? Don't really need any exotics or named items right now. Am I insane for using it on Optimization Cache's?

[kind veldt]

it's fine

most old players also buy the eoxtics one just to break them down for mats also

[raw minnow]

Yeah, I'm only expertise 13 so I'm nowhere needing that many exotic components yet

And the only exotics I'm really using are coyote's, scorpio, elmo and catharsis

[nocturne frigate]

feel like the space admin hq 14:00 is a bit too much imo

hq is just such a long mission

[fast ember]

Any good guides or tips on how to run and gun more successfully? I swear the AI will start shooting me the second I’m out of cover, or find a tiny little hole they can shoot me through (like a bush or fence).

I know you need to be aggressive but it’s hard when your armor is melted off by an enemy taking lot shots at you from where you can’t see them

[full zinc]

Did it earlier with guardians active and all randoms. Its wasnt hard to make time

[nocturne frigate]

ah well im a solo lol 😅

[full zinc]

Strong dps. Might need a couple runs if not 100 on the spawns

[nocturne frigate]

yeah i got the dps down just not the spawns

not hard to melt everyhting since its only on hard

[full zinc]

That's usually the sticking point. Pathway is like that when its league as well

[nocturne frigate]

but last i played space hq was like a year ago so i forgot where all the spawns were

[dark sand]

whats all of y'alls shd level in division

mines 450

[fast ember]

Okay lootcifer is literally satan. I’ve run countdown like 10 times with shotgun targeted. Not one Scorpio and allll the crates I’ve opened using countdown tokens…still no scorpio. But I just ran countdown again with assault rifles targeted and not only did 2 st Elmo’s drop, one had god rolls. WHY

[kind veldt]

clear your minds

[fast ember]

The game doesn’t want me to be happy

[full zinc]

Go ahead and take a t6 stinger hive into the next extraction... he will reward you if you sacrifice to him.
🔥😈🔥

[fast ember]

I made that mistake with a t6 drone. I had no idea hunters could hijack them

[eager breach]

You can definitely team kill that way 😂

[abstract rapids]

Depending on your SHD level, creating a new character and getting Keener's watch (approx. 10h) can be faster than playing the 10h. The only component you can't get from the watch are exotics component

[raw minnow]

I just hit 1k the other day, about 1050 or in that range so not a crazy ton of value yet I don't think. Once I hit the 5x XP though and I get 2k I think that's when I'll leverage the watch mule

[jagged prism]

believe that's 300 resource points as is so far

or 250?. i don't know how to math that sorry

[raw minnow]

~250 yeah

Not worth it right now just for resources

[hybrid ore]

It's generally accepted that the minimum SHD required for Watch Farming is ~1500.

Although obviously, more is better.

In a few weeks there's going to be a 5x XP event with 1,000 levels as the cap. Very much worth farming that out as much as you can.

[raw minnow]

Oh yeah that's the plan

Trying to get used to the headhunter/determined nonsense for farming CP's

Still whiffing shots though and not keeping the stacks so it's a skill issue

[hybrid ore]

What's your Stability with your MMR?

[lunar hare]

also, what mmr are you using?

If it's the SR-1 I have a ss that might help to get 100% on both accuracy and stability

(maybe more idk)

[raw minnow]

It's one of the 700 series, I believe Carbon. And on the card it's maxed. I think I'm doing too much moving and trying to shoot too fast, but randomly I feel like it goes left and right sometimes, maybe depending on what shoulder I'm looking over. Like I said though, it's a skill issue

I've been doing some countdown to get more options because I just put the build together yesterday

[lunar hare]

let me upload the ss

oh sh- @raw minnow #td2-build-advice

[fair solar]

You might be unintentionally flicking which affects where the bullet goes

[raw minnow]

That's literally what I'm thinking since it's so random sometimes

[fair solar]

Ya, try intentionally flicking it and see if you're able to recreate the problem you seem to be having

Then use that to your advantage

[raw minnow]

So be aware of what shoulder I'm peaking and do flicks, here we go lol

[fair solar]

Haha it's fun when you're used to it and you're doing it intentionally

Gl!

[raw minnow]

I thought you were gonna tell me to slow down, now I'm gittin gudder

[fair solar]

Nah, full speed ahead

[raw minnow]

It has gotten better with the limited gameplay I will say. But you miss wide open shots and feel like a burger

[fair solar]

Ahahah I feel ya. Hit all, then miss 1, feel like an absolute noob

[raw minnow]

And then panic to grab your stack again lol

[fair solar]

*searching for a red

[raw minnow]

It's all yellow and helmets, danger ahead

[fair solar]

Throws decoy, they ignore it

[raw minnow]

Farmed them too much, they know the tricks

[lunar hare]

Give me a couple minutes and I'll explain this eventsm

[fair solar]

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, not gonna happen." - true sons, probably

[lunar hare]

So, they ignore the decoy because you either threw it too close or they destroyed it way too fast.
Try to throw it where the base of the decoy is hidden or just behind something, no matter where you drop it, it will take all aggro off of you.

[lunar hare]

If this was a thing everyone would've left CP farming lol

[raw minnow]

never

[lunar hare]

I'll give you some advice, if you ever decide to fully optimise your HH build, search for a Purpur/purple npc as they'll always die from 1 shot

[raw minnow]

Yeah I'm seeing that now. Being more picky about my targets

[raw minnow]

Damn, two exotic marksmans on my challenging countdown. RNG is in my favour tonight lol

[tawdry ore]

Would you rather fight Hunter with Div1 AI or Div2 AI?

[lunar hare]

haven't tried div1 hunters yet

[spare cove]

Div 2 Hunters

[full zinc]

not worth actively farming, but definitely worth having all 4 agents made and with a watch. they all keep accumulating scav points so you can harvest 4x points, 4x projects, 4x chances at incursion/raid caches .. then when you hit that higher 1500+ you delete/repeat 1 for watch runs.

[raw minnow]

That's true. And what do you mean by incursion/raid caches. Every character gets them when you complete it on one?

I've never done any so I don't know how that works

[full zinc]

each agent you bring through get a crack at it

[raw minnow]

Oh so you can have them all, have a build on them and then try on each, got it

Because at that point you can just put the build in the box and take it wherever

[full zinc]

yeah, like i dont do watch runs at this point and i got duplicate builds on all 4 so i can maximize the exo components im getting from projects

but you can definitely have the same build loadout saved and send to stash and pull it on another agent when you swap

[raw minnow]

Yeah that makes sense. I think the next step in all of this gameplay is getting comfy with the incursion because I'd definitely like to get the Ouro and then leverage having all character slots filled

[full zinc]

striker is pretty easy so its worth having a build on each and save yourself some time

[raw minnow]

Oh yeah I have a ton of striker comps, I'm good for that

Basically full red/blue setups, catharsis, coyotes, etc.

I could probably run it if I was guided through, I just don't wanna mangle it for everyone else lol

[full zinc]

you can probably meet up with a few agents here that do it alot

welp, time to go mortar some guardians

[azure lintel]

So I'm doing some hyenas bounties and the guardian was a rusher, i popped her helmet off, and then... she just went straight up, right thru the roof of the sewers. I've never seen that before I really wish I had gamecapture on. I have no idea where she went.

[lunar hare]

scanner pulse maybe?

[azure lintel]

i died shortly thereafter cause she was the guardian lol

the icon disppeared when she ascended too

[full zinc]

too bad you werent using nego, if she was marked you woulda been able to transfer some damage too her 😎

[azure lintel]

haha yeah!

[full zinc]

man mm is dead on pc today, maybe a lot of people dont like guardians

[azure lintel]

they should though, impressive PUG clears today. Did a 16 minute roosevelt

[dusty ridge]

best way to bleed targets?

skill damage hive?

[undone timber]

Ridgeway+ stinger+ OD

[dusty ridge]

od?

[undone timber]

Ongoing directive

[empty crystal]

Not sure it says anything nice about me that the two specs I haven't finished yet is survivalist and sharpshooter

[lunar hare]

eh, I've only seen survivalist at Conflict or DH
Sharpshooter I'd say Conflict and CP Farming

maybe legendary

[paper phoenix]

Game is bugged for me hard tonight. Cannot defeat the Chimera because once it hits 0 hp it just keeps running around and shooting at me. Also cannot use my sig weapon even though I have ammo for it.

[mild ether]

5 hours maintenance yesterday. nd now servers are closing in 50 mins for 3 hours for another maintenance... what is going on?

it seems like they try to fix one thing and end up breaking 5 other things in the process

[prisma arch]

server go down again?

[mild ether]

in 45 mins

for 3 hours

probably more

[frigid yew]

should play td 1

[hybrid ore]

Where's the server notice? Twitter is not being cooperative.

[mild ether]

its in the game. bottom of the screen when I launched the game

[hybrid ore]

Assuming that it's right, that's just how div2 is, live-service games gonna live-service. No need to freak out.

[tawdry ore]

Div1 Hunter AI is mixture of 4 faction AI
Reckless like Rioter
Determine like Cleaner
Ruthless like Riker
Tactical like LMB
They will move cover from cover just to get close to you and slowly wither away your HP

In event of there are 2 hunter
Their AI will enter Hivemind mode, where 1 will suppressed you in place while other one flank you from rear

[hybrid ore]

I believe that last part is called "using a radio/ear-piece", but if you want to think they they are psychic then I won't stop you.

[tawdry ore]

Gameplay wise thou

I face 2 hunter in survival once

1 really pin me down behind cover + 2nd hunter EMP my tech and throw Turret to force me out of cover

[wind turret]

@hybrid ore Sent you a DM of the server shutting down notice , it happens in 20 minutes ??

sorry for the ping

[abstract rapids]

just rush one hunter and use the field to your advantage

[wind turret]

I just put up a twitter post to see if Daria or one of the team can confirm the unscheduled maintenance today

[lunar hare]

happens regularly, no need to ping staff for that as they dont have power on this

[tawdry ore]

Rush hunter Div1 is suicide bro, their AI is smart enough to know they being rush and counter rush back by Axe you

[inner tapir]

sigh..... didn't get to play yesterday, won't get to play again today. the timing of maintenance is literaly the worst.

[amber pond]

i was jsut gonna ask if it was a bug but we find out in a min

[ruby comet]

SAME

[ember swallow]

👍

[ruby comet]

had to quit halfway through the keener mission

[amber pond]

doesn't seem to be yeeting me yet

[ember swallow]

me neither

hopefully it's someone forgetting to remove the notification

yeah I think it's someone forgetting to remove the notification...

shutdown shouldn't take THIS long

[amber pond]

noice

[paper phoenix]

Maybe they're fixing the bug that keeps the Chimera from dying

[ember swallow]

maybe? don't think they need to take this long to shutdown though

has been 5 minutes since "scheduled" time already

[paper phoenix]

Dunno, not bothering me any because I'm over playing tonight. 12 attempts at the final boss fight and not one of them was successful because it didn't register that I'd fully depleted Chimera's health bar. Damn thing was still up and running around trying to kill me.

[ember swallow]

rip

[paper phoenix]

I think my server was bugged entirely. When I logged in tonight to take on the final mission the icon at the Emergency Bunker was greyed out. I had to open the mission options and pick the difficulty and then deselect/reselect a directive to get the mission to load.

[inner tapir]

well server is still up and the notification went away. thankfully someone else pointed out that server shutdown was taking too long

[dusty ridge]

server notice a bug? i logged back on

[inner tapir]

apparently

[hybrid ore]

This is about normal for div2 actually.

When it does actually happen.

[inner tapir]

you're not wrong. the longest one I have seen is 7 minutes.

[hybrid ore]

Your translator broke there, but I know what you meant.

[inner tapir]

translator?

[ember swallow]

I guess that fake maintanence killed all countdown players

[lunar hare]

fake? wasn't it just a reboot

[hybrid ore]

It stated that it was going to be down for 3 hours, which may have scared a few players off.
Likely just a remnant left over from yesterday.

[ember swallow]

no, there was not a single downtime while the "said" maintanence notification was up

[shell hawk]

What’s the loot for the dark zone?

If anyone knows

[night fox]

DZ west - LMGs
DZ east - Overlord Armaments
DZ south - Cavalier

[shell hawk]

Thanks boss

[abstract rapids]

You can also see the loot on the map (need to push a button)

[shell hawk]

I’m not on the game, so I felt like asking

[abstract rapids]

Sorry then

[shell hawk]

All good

[dull roost]

why are the asian severs so bad, started a mission and the bots are not moving, and they get no damage, after few seconds they starts moving and they take damage for few seconds, and the next thing i see is my health depleted and i am down.

[coral ferry]

Do I Only see the difference between xp gain BEFORE maintenance on Tuesday and today? I’ve noticed that by playing in Heroic with all 5 directives I gained ~600k xp (maybe more): the point is almost a level if I haunted convoys. But now….i gain 250k with 4 directives 😤👀

[full zinc]

You may have still had some if the 3x xp going before tuesday.

This is the current xp chart.
Heroic 4d control points are an a
Shd per clear. Control points can also be reset so repeating the same one is the fastest open world xp currently

Would help if I added the link 🤦‍♂️
#ask-td2-community message

[raw minnow]

I do wonder how efficiently you could do heroic bounties in comparison. Some of those have so many stages

Public exe's are just so fast

[full zinc]

the biggest problem that hinders fast xp farming of open world activities is the travel time between. a lot of times when people are talking about this or that activity being the fastest , they fail to factor in travel time.
CP farming is fastest xp because you can reset all cp and then repeat clear one thats close to a safehouse. this boils down to sleeping giant, sinkhole, and the choke. any cp you prefer thats close to a fast travel point would work, but it may be a further run than the above mentioned controlpoints.
@lunar hare put together a breakdown of what to run, where to clear, and what xp is gained here. #ask-td2-community message

[raw minnow]

Oh beauty. I don't factor in the travel just because it's a sunk cost, I've been CP farming just for materials too and practicing builds. I'll have to memorize those three now though for the 5x to just go hammer on em

[full zinc]

yeah, itll be a big return during 5x. those blueprint unlocks are solid as well from cp farming

[raw minnow]

Yeah I have those already which is good

Even though I see a bunch still missing and it kills my OCD lol

[tiny oar]

hey guess who got outcast as enemy in descent 1 loop before nemesis and got suicide rusher tp on me 5 times in a row without any time to dodge or heal

this fkin guy 🙃

[fickle edge]

Guardians is basically golden bullet now? Was it like this before the revamp?

[kind veldt]

Nope

[stark heron]

Makes it actually a fun GE now

[limpid pond]

Ouroborus is Incursion exclusive right?

[lunar hare]

Yes

[tiny oar]

10% drop rate from the crate and 1% from boss i think

[magic folio]

This might be a silly question but since last night all enemies are really hard to kill unless I get 1 kill then they are all super easy. I don't know if that makes sense. and I usually end up dead and it says "You killed yourself". Is there something I am missing? I have the Hunter's Fury set, Momento Backpack, Dark Winter SMG. I shred everything but I need that first kill first which is hard to get. I am level 40 as well. It doesn't matter if its on Normal, Hard, or Challenger.

[woven epoch]

Should I play division 1 or 2

[small spear]

did you turn on the Guardians GE?

[magic folio]

I don't know what that is. I started playing 3 days ago.

[small spear]

well it's a global event that makes enemies behave like what you said. go to Esc > Seasons > Guardians and read what it does

you can turn it off in that same interface

[magic folio]

Oh I see.

Thank you

Turns out when i kill the guardian I die because I am too close to their detonation.

[tiny oar]

both are good, wait for a sale and you can get both

but first game isnt updated anymore

[small spear]

yeah they drop a grenade on death

[magic folio]

I feel silly. Lol.

[tiny oar]

happens, we all been there at some point

[magic folio]

I was worried it was the build's problem

[tiny oar]

if you started 3days ago your build is prob not great, but thats not the reason you struggle if global event is on for you

[magic folio]

Its not perfect yet that is true. but I kill nearly everything on challenger. I do take a lot of damage though so i need to work on that.

haven't even done my specialization yet either. got to finish it up

[tiny oar]

dw, as long as you can clear stuff and are having fun, nobody will talk shit

if you need build advice tho we also can do that

[magic folio]

Thank you!

The comminity has been really nice and helpful so far!

[tiny oar]

neat

wait until you find people in dz who will scream some not nice slurs at you and you will change your mind then xd

[magic folio]

Haha

Is Dark Winter a better SMG than Ouro? or is it a matter of taste?

[tiny oar]

no, ouro is the best smg by far

but its locked behind incursion

dark winter is locked behind dz

[tropic sentinel]

Dark winter is overall outdated. Post project dissolve there are better high end options.

[tiny oar]

yeah clearly

still a decent smg tho

[magic folio]

Can I get Ouro though named cache?

I got dark winter last night through named cache.

[tiny oar]

ouro is an exotic not just a named weapon

[lunar hare]

No you can't. Ouroboros is an Incursion exclusive.

[magic folio]

Okay cool! Got to do some incursions then!

[coral ferry]

Play both, but would recommend to start from D1. There are two style differences between D1 & D2 + lore info, main characters…..imho

[tiny oar]

if you played the game for only 3 days, i'd hold off the incursions, its very hard and requires good build

[oak remnant]

Anyone know where the snitch location is I can’t find him

[kind veldt]

random

[lunar hare]

It's random, there's no "always here"

[oak remnant]

Ok thanks mate

[tiny oar]

its random from a set of locations, my fav spot is the classified assignment tp point, he's slighty north of it

[umbral pike]

And a good team

Trying to queue with randoms is just not ideal

[tiny oar]

ye

random are really hard to deal with

[kind veldt]

it's a test of patience and luck

[lunar hare]

that's the main concept of division I'd say

[tiny oar]

why do we use matchmaking

just to suffer

[small spear]

random matchmaking = directive 6

[tiny oar]

cant wait for them to add more directive

and then we got 50 directive and we be like "directive 51 activated" and we just play the first game inside the 2nd game

i think im too high on shrooms at this point

[lunar hare]

read that with that dude's meme
love it

[tiny oar]

yeah that was my intention

[spare cove]

This reminds me, I have MGS5 installed, so I should play it more often

[bold finch]

heya

my game won't start. i just bought tom clancy ghost recon from 2008. it won't start

it doensn't make sense why in the hell it won't start

[tiny oar]

you're not on the right discord, this is the division discord

[bold finch]

oh my god

[tiny oar]

if you need technical help try ubisoft support

[bold finch]

sorry im on steam

[tiny oar]

its still goes through ubisoft, as its a ubisoft game

even if you buy on steam

[bold finch]

oh my god. for real?

im so angry

[tiny oar]

yes cause ownership rights

all tom clancys game are ubisoft property

[bold finch]

Sadly. But I’m probably going to request refund because I’m pretty sure this is breaking some of the EU laws

[tiny oar]

its not, thats how property rights work in the eu

i am from the eu too

[bold finch]

Plus why even publish the game on steam if it doesn’t work

[tiny oar]

you can request a refund tho its very much easy to do

[bold finch]

I mean at least in my country

[tiny oar]

cause people use steam more so it still brings more players and more money and visibility

[tiny oar]

where u from ?

[bold finch]

Yes it’s just messed up. I mean who even uses Ubisoft utter trash program to launch it

[bold finch]

Danmark

[tiny oar]

everybody who play any ubisoft game like division, assassins screen, etc x)

some game are aviable without ubisoft launcher cause they were made back when ubi didnt have their own platform

[bold finch]

Of course, but it lacks the basic community feeling or whatever valve is designed to make it feel community. Again I’m not the most knowledgeable person on this topic

[tiny oar]

its ok dw

[bold finch]

Yea that makes sense. Im probably going to steal my older brothers account

[tiny oar]

i agree with you, multiple launchers especially bad one are a plague tbh

ubisoft launcher isnt the worst one tbh

[bold finch]

true. It’s just so uncomfortable for me to use

[tiny oar]

you should check ea desktop lmao

[bold finch]

Probably epic or EA

[tiny oar]

thats horrendous

[bold finch]

LMAOOO

[tiny oar]

haha

[bold finch]

Bro, it brings me ptsd to EA, I ended up just going back to ps4 because of how uncomfortable it was to use it

[tiny oar]

haha

i feel you

anyway, gl with your brother account

hope you get to play your game

[bold finch]

Thanks man. Hopefully already gone thru 20 Indian tutorial. It hasn’t worked yet, I might run down to the church shop and grab a physical copy at this point

[tiny oar]

or maybe pray to not get cursed by the game so old a victorian child might have played it

x)

[azure lintel]

Anyone else getting the synchronization stuff?

I can’t buy anything from Danny

[coral shadow]

I just wanna let it be known I would farm countdown and control points for exotics, I did this for a long time,

I was today years old when I found out that you could buy reconfigure blueprints at Base from Inaya.... I had about 206 exotic components, I found this out because I was complaining to a friend about farming Oreo for (potentially) years... I am the stupids but its ok now I rerolled and optimized all the exotics I actually care about so yeah I'm sure no one needs to hear this but PSA to new players you only technically need to get an exotic once

[small plume]

Guys, what is this thing with ANNA doing / saying something that Keener started questioning?

Is ANNA also really reliable?

[hybrid ore]

She cut him off, which he didn't like, and Manny was a bit freaked out that she was able to do it in the first place.
Although lore chat is better over in #division-universe,

[small plume]

Is that a new chat? I didn't noticed it.

[hybrid ore]

Nope, been around for years. It was renamed from something else but this was quite a few years ago now.

[small plume]

I've never seen it.

[paper phoenix]

Finally beat Chimera. Kinda stupid that it can stunlock you with three rapid fire mortar rounds and then just blast you with three rapid sniper rounds.

[quick wolf]

ANNA was made to be more... adaptable. She was designed as a much more sophisticated AI whereas ISAC was an intentional downgrade.
ISAC is more like a machine whereas ANNA has a better understanding of human psychology and the reasons behind the choices made.

Naturally, a lot of the agents who used ANNA were slightly unsettled and freaked out by her human-like behavior. So she was dropped in favor of ISAC.

Then the rogues started using ANNA instead.

And then there's DIAMOND, which is what BTSU, Calvin, and by extension his Hunters most likely, use. But I don't know much about DIAMOND to elaborate on it.

[hybrid ore]

I've already directed where the lore stuff goes, don't make me use the eraser.

It's the kind that disintegrates after like 3 uses.

[quick wolf]

Genie's curse.

[paper phoenix]

Does it have a shiny bald guy on the packaging

?

[neon wyvern]

🧽

[quick wolf]

I mean... technically anything that's about Division 2 is fine here, no?

I only gave a simplified run down because I don't know the vast majority of the lore behind the AI.

That was as far as my knowledge stretched.

Now if I were to right a novel about the lore then I could see the channel being useful.

[hybrid ore]

Yeah that's not really how this place works, otherwise that would mean LFG's would be allowed in here.

[neon wyvern]

less likely for ur lore stuff to be buried never to be seen again in the other channel

[hybrid ore]

We don't decide on the descriptions of the channels.

[quick wolf]

Ok, so how do we differentiate between answering one single question and just completely going off the rails?

Because that's what I had in mind.

And if they wanted to take it further, I would have gone in the right channel.

I'm asking because I don't want to get axed.

[hybrid ore]

Just one day I want to be able to say "hey try using that other channel", and the person will go "oh no worries".
Just one day.

[modest urchin]

I just started playing the division 2 last night, never had played either before or at least not long enough to remember. The games amazing, exactly what I've been looking for and I'm sad I didn't try the game sooner

[quick wolf]

It's a legitimate question, Rivens! :(

[quick wolf]

This was me when Div 1 came out. I only started when I got a copy for free that came with my new keyboard.

Good times. It was right around when I had built my first PC.

I think it was right around the release of Falcon Lost, actually.

That's when my journey started.

Then Division 2 came out. And that was a time I'll never be able to fully relive.

God, to think we made it this far.

[hybrid ore]

Honestly I can not be bothered to argue right now so enjoy whatevs.

[south glen]

What you I spend global stars on?

[quick wolf]

There's a seasons vendor at the white house.

You can spend the stars there for caches and whatnot.

The stock is similar to the Countdown station, if I'm not mistaken.

[south glen]

Sorry I mistyped the question, what should I spend them on (value wise)

[small plume]

No, wait, are you fkn kidding me?
I have to do the manhunt FOUR times to get all the comms?

I'm tired, boss.

[kind veldt]

just the last mission

[full zinc]

-exo caches, obv for exotics or exo components
-named caches, for getting dz exclusive named items (handy for expertise grinding)
-Legacy caches, only in the case of needing system corruption (dz exclusive gear) for a build or proficiency grinding.

i personally only find worth in the first , but im at a stage where the bottleneck is exo components. ill also mention its still faster to grind the 1st 2 (exo/named caches) from countdown vendor.

[quick wolf]

It depends on your priorities.

• If you need or are looking for gear and weapons exclusive to the Dark Zone, then Named Caches are best.
• Optimization Caches are nice if you have gear and weapons that could use some finishing touches.
• Legacy Caches are only worthwhile if you need very specific items from previous seasons such as the System Corruption Gear Set.
• If you need a better Exotic than the ones you own and actively use, or are farming Exotic Components, then Exotic Caches are better.

You can't really go wrong with Named, Optimization, and Exotic Caches. Legacy is too niche in my opinion. That aside, what matters is what you're trying to accomplish, and which of these is going to help you achieve your goal.
I highly recommend not buying Weapon Crafting, Gear Crafting, or Recalibration Crafting Caches though. Farming crafting materials is one of the easiest things to do in Division 2. Don't waste your very limited stars on those.

[calm aurora]

Delta Galore, again. Ugh

[molten verge]

whats a fun gear set for Pvp

[grizzled dragon]

Hi, I was wondering, is The Division 2 worth buying in 2024? It's currently on sale on steam and I was thinking of buying it. I loved The Division 1 but unfortunately there aren't that many players online (at least on steam) currently

[hybrid ore]

Yeah div1 is pretty much empty compared to div2, the majority of players moved over.
It's absolutely worth playing right now actually, there's even a massive XP event starting in a few weeks that 'll help you catch up faster.
And juuuust after that, a brand new Season, and an Expansion-DLC coming some time early next year.

[signal python]

If you neve played div 2 u really should try it now! in 2024 for the newbye there is a lot of content, fun mechanics and opportunities

@grizzled dragon i really advise you to buy Ultimate edition or at least Warlods of NY edition in order to have all the content

[abstract rapids]

When is Div 3 expected to go on sale ? (or no date yet)

[grizzled dragon]

Yeah, I was thinking of getting the ultimate edition since it's pretty cheap

[signal python]

Div 3 doesnt even exist dude))

[signal python]

sure, do it. Im sure u wont regret

[grizzled dragon]

How grindy is TD2 compared to TD1?

I liked the grind in TD1 for instance, but I remember at launch it was awful

[hybrid ore]

Div3 is still in the concept stage, from the little we know about it.

[signal python]

There is some Great American Random while grinding ))
But there are many endgame activities and mechanics which help you to make grind easier and more fun.

It is Update 21 now in Div 2, many mistakes and problems of the 2019 year launch disappeared

Sorry for my bad English 😦

[grizzled dragon]

No worries, I understood your comment

Sounds good then

[mint bone]

its so hard to play solo i can't beat recruiter 😭

[grizzled dragon]

Also, what are the One time offer wrapped pack and the Value Bundle? Just premium currency?

[hybrid ore]

Anything you pay actual money for in div2 is currency/cosmetic, even the Season Pass.

[grizzled dragon]

Are you talking about The Division 2? Is it really that difficult for a solo?

[abstract rapids]

Thanks for the answer. So no date yet.

[mint bone]

i mean it is for me, and yes the division 2

[signal python]

yep, more premium money, cosmeticts...

[hybrid ore]

Not even a year, or a tentative platform.
@grizzled dragon Recruiter is a special case, he's designed to be hard, don't worry.

also, love the Outkast reference.

[mint bone]

i tried 10 times and i just surrender

[abstract rapids]

Except for Raid and Incursion, the rest can be done solo.

Edit: Forgot about Countdown

[signal python]

@grizzled dragon@mint bone U can change missions and openworld difficulty during endgame, for example u shouldnt go to Heroic level if you dont have good build

[hybrid ore]

If you leave one enemy alive with the Recruiter, more stop spawning.

[grizzled dragon]

Ah good, I was planning on playing the game mostly solo anyway lol

I hate bosses that spawn infinite trashmobs

[mint bone]

well im to dumb to create a good build and i can't find any builds on internet

[hybrid ore]

#td2-build-advice > 📌 pinned-message > spreadsheet 2 > builds.
all of those are Heroic ready.

[mint bone]

oh thanks man

[hybrid ore]

That spreadsheet is going to be something you go back to often, make sure you remember it.

[mint bone]

i will

[tough matrix]

should i buy td2, had been on my wishlist for awhile. been on td1 for a really long time

[signal python]

solo is fine in that game, dont worry. Even on Heroic difficulty with directives, if you have nice finished builds like Striker or Heartbreaker or Hunter's Fury shotgun builds.
Anyway till you finish Washington and NY Main Quests u shouldnt really care about builds, use whatever you want. U can just try to figure out main way to progress later (rifles or smgs, DD or armor regen etc)

[signal python]

u can read some discussion above for the same theme. In short - yes, buy it, right with Warlords of NY expansion

[grizzled dragon]

Nice, thanks for the info!

[mint bone]

if you want we can play together

[grizzled dragon]

Sure, I'll probably ask here to LFG anyway

[mint bone]

nice

[abstract rapids]

I just finished the league mission. Is it possible to solo finish Keener mission under 18 minutes ?

[tiny oar]

with a good build and knowing the spanws yeah

[abstract rapids]

Finished under 20 min

[tiny oar]

but dont focus too much on that, if you struggle you get another week to farm thoses points for the rewards

[abstract rapids]

But that's was without knowing the spawn point

[tiny oar]

you only 30 stars per week to have the max reward

[abstract rapids]

I was using a MMR build

And yeah, I'm not worried

I'll complete next week the missing trophy

I did around 19 min and I was wondering if rushing the spawn point (and optimizing the path would allow me to finish under 18 min)

[timber hatch]

Yes. The challenge used to be set on heroic with the same time but they reduced the difficult to make it easy for everyone to complete with max stars.

[tiny oar]

show your build

[abstract rapids]

Basic: 3 PC Hot Shot, Swayer knee pad, Ailradi Holding chest with head hunter + the gift backpack

SR-1

I didn't found yet the Hasbourg Guard chest and back pack I want

[tiny oar]

you got the wrong build, you need chainkiller not headhunter on chest

and sr1 with determined

and you need vigilance on backpack

[abstract rapids]

SR-1 got determined and the Gift got Vigilance

Chainkiller doesn't seem to do more damage

[tiny oar]

it does, by a mile

1st headshot doesnt do much damage, but then you'll oneshot everyone without headshots

[abstract rapids]

So, 5% weapon damage >> 10% marksman damage ?

[tiny oar]

check the build in pinned comments in #td2-build-advice , you dont use it for the weapon damage on brand you use it for talent that gives you +1250% damage on kill

[abstract rapids]

Head Hunter is the not perfect version of the Chain killer talent

[tiny oar]

yeah, its better to have the named

especially for boss/tanks

[abstract rapids]

So yeah, I do between 30-40M

That should be enough

[tiny oar]

you do you man

gl next run with the spanws

[abstract rapids]

I also probably lost some precious sec because event was activated

[tiny oar]

oh yeah

deactivate the event before doing it

this one is slowing you down for sure

[abstract rapids]

Anyway thx

[real creek]

This is fine btw and with even less tho. To do this mission faster it sounds like you probably need to do razorback and keener faster and a headhunter build isn't going to be great at those two fights.

I also typically run memento for that mission for leagues as you don't need the extra damage from vigi. Memento gives better skills and survivability tho.

[abstract rapids]

This is just me playing MMR

[real creek]

Yeah but the original thing was can it be done in sub 18 and yeah, I forget what I typically do it in solo but I know getting it done for full marks isn't hard.

[timber hatch]

Both perfect and regular talents do the same damage at max stacks. The advantage of perfect is that it builds stacks quicker, so before you max out stacks, in that mid range, it will do more.

[tiny oar]

oh ok

[abstract rapids]

That's true but doing 9M HSD on the first target doesn't change much for the stacking after

Unless you want to kill a named you should be able to one shot any guy: red/purple/yellow (except for those who get helmet)

[timber hatch]

It can definitely be the difference depending on the enemy and group scaling.

[undone timber]

Stacking faster is super pog for HH

[abstract rapids]

I don't feel much diff accross the faction. Could you tell me which enemy and group that could make the diff ?

[timber hatch]

I mostly mean elites, chungas, named enemies, higher difficulties, and health going up with additional players. If your 1 shotting everything regardless then yes, it's not going to matter

[real creek]

Player scaling is the big thing. Really if you understand HH and know your 1st-2nd-full HH stack damage you can look at a health chart and know what you can and can't 1 shot at what HH stacks.

[abstract rapids]

I did a legendary 4 people level 100 summit. I need to kill the first one but after I'm pretty much stack. On the level 100 hunter, that's another story. i'm using a charged Nemesis + decoy

[real creek]

Yeah well 4pc hot/chainkiller/any vigi backpack with an SR-1 is gonna do that...

You don't even need HSD rolled on your gear.

[dusty ridge]

anyone else notice they dont get pulse resistane mods anymore?

[real creek]

The pool of mods is large so probs bad RNG

[full zinc]

hard to notice when you decon stuff on the ground 😎

[dusty ridge]

i used to get them all the time now nothing

[full zinc]

because you started looking for them

[dusty ridge]

somethings off asked a few division content creators to test it

[hybrid ore]

Are you trying Heroic CD with mods as the TL? Or Heroic/Leg LZ stuff with lots of Directives, same TL?

As people have said: big pool of mods.

[tiny oar]

yeah, pool of mods is so big, i spend like 30/40k printer filament to get some, i still miss some of them

thats harsh man

especially blue ones the pool is huge

cause you got all thoses statuss effect resistance

[spare cove]

I wouldn't mind if they consolidate the resistance mods

[tiny oar]

i'd rather have a single all status resistance mod tbh but it might be too strong

[hybrid ore]

We are slowly getting universal mods put in place, I wouldn't worry too much about other changes.

[full zinc]

just use hazpro rolls 👴

[tiny oar]

doesnt exist on mods :(

[full zinc]

"rolls"

[tiny oar]

yeah but its limited

thats why id love mods to do that too

[full zinc]

its all status resistance

[tiny oar]

yeah i know, but its limited on gear

you can have 60% on rolls maybe some on brands but thats it

[full zinc]

70%, dont forget the watch.

something like eclipse has 30% on the set as well

same with cavalier

[tiny oar]

oh yeah true

but yeah some gear brand/set have hazpro but its locking your build kinda so not optimal

i made a 100% bleed rez build for that smg that male you bleed forgot the name, its kinda cool to be very resistant

tho the smg isnt great

[full zinc]

depends on what you need to do. having an immune build is purpose built, not just a nice bonus

other than pulse resist for pvp (obv not a status), i dont see a point of using specific resistance mods

if 30% in mods would help somewhere, just run your crit or whatnot in mods and hazpro a few rolls

backfire is just bad to build for
good component though

[tiny oar]

yeah, but i wanted to try it

its fun but def not great

[forest bay]

Where can I find Liberty Island? I searched and couldn't find it. Is it DLC?

[tiny oar]

yes, its in new york

[real creek]

Liberty island is near New York so yeah it's in the DLC that takes place in NY.

[tiny oar]

its the mission to get keener

[forest bay]

No, I was excited to finish the Knicks League and I hope the upcoming events don't happen in the additional content.

[real creek]

idk league is 2 weeks so I always just do the 3 hards once per each week. To each their own.

[tiny oar]

you have 2 weeks to complete the league the challenge reset for the 2nd week so only 30 stars a week is enough

but i suggest you buy the dlc, its worth it imo

on sale at least

[real creek]

The amount of gear that is DLC only is pretty insane.

[forest bay]

Tomorrow, God willing, I will buy it before the discount ends.

[tiny oar]

gl

[forest bay]

Yep yeah I've seen several videos where they have powerful equipment that can kill any player in one hit. 🥲

I struggled a lot in the black area to collect equipment. A player with high strength appears.

[tiny oar]

black area ?

you mean the dark zone ?

but yeah dz is not great if your geat isnt near perfect

[forest bay]

Yes

[azure lintel]

does anyone know where one can obtain big horn?

[lunar hare]

Legendary (Summit) bosses

[real creek]

Legendary Named enemies are your best shot at big horn.

[kind veldt]

or legendary missions, really small chance in DZ

[lunar hare]

chances are below zero

[azure lintel]

thank you guys 🙂

[tiny oar]

not below but very close to 0 same as eagle bearer

[small spear]

think he means just don't bother as it's not worth it

[paper mantle]

ya'll whats the point of textiles if i cant buy the things i want

[tiny oar]

you can buy some, other items are premium exclusives, and there is a textile vendor ingame too that sell caches

[paper mantle]

pretty much 60% of the shop are premium exclusive
i kinda expect the standard apparel cache items to be purchasable with textiles

theres one particular item that i need from the apparel cache, but my luck is terrible

[tiny oar]

no point in buying caches with textile if they give you textile too

[paper mantle]

im talking about the items
i wouldnt mind if each item was like 500 - 1k textiles. as long as i can purchase them with textiles idc

[tiny oar]

dont bother too much with thoses caches tbh, i got all the skins from the caches and they aint great, now i dont bother opening them until i need textiles for the vendor

[tiny oar]

oh yeah, well they decided not cause it would push people to spend money to get them

[real creek]

Make em like 10K textiles...

[small spear]

okay old player

[real creek]

Give me a reason to use my apparel keys to gain textiles.

[small spear]

i only got to 1.3k shd, i'm poor

[tiny oar]

textile vendor

[paper mantle]

well i need my mechanic half mask

[real creek]

Bro doesn't cost that much.

[tiny oar]

it does after a while

[paper mantle]

any way to grind apparel caches? i really fw the sweeper gear dye

[real creek]

It still hasn't dented my textiles.

[tiny oar]

level up, thats it

you get a cache every 3/4 lvl up i think

[real creek]

Wait until the 5X for 1k SHD event?

[paper mantle]

yes, gotta wait a few weeks for the 5x XP event

[small spear]

pls donate

[neon wyvern]

same I only have 500 caches

[tiny oar]

you can still farm it outside the event, its pretty fast

[small spear]

i need to save up for my tier 1 armpatch

[real creek]

I just want a batch key open for boxes yo.

[tiny oar]

yeah thatd be nice

[paper mantle]

great idea

[tiny oar]

like "open all" button

[real creek]

I would do disgusting things for that QOL change.

[tiny oar]

i'd praise riven even

[real creek]

Devs my DMs are open...

[tiny oar]

(dont let her see this)

[real creek]

Aside of that a button to extract all high stats for the library from anything marked for "recalibration" would be nice too.(wouldn't help me but new players would save so much headache and time.)

[paper mantle]

the best QOL ideas known to man

[real creek]

I hate telling new players how important the library is to just have to tell them to suffer thru extracting all that.

[stark heron]

Library is a pain in the ass since you can't exactly max any attributes reasonably early on

Its just one of those things that is a longer term goal than maxing out keeners watch

[lunar hare]

Back when the god rolled crafting station was still bugged, I filled around half of my library but it was in the last few hours before maintenance

[tiny oar]

i tried to craft mods back then cause its the only thing we cant reliably farm, and even spending 30+k printer filaments didnt get me all the mods i needed xd

[lunar hare]

lol
Now it's just a matter of time to get some PfE mods.

[flat flower]

Interesting, I got em all with significantly less than that lol

[flat flower]

Been getting a lot of mine out of summit on heroic. I have 6 total

[lunar hare]

how much are those?

[flat flower]

13%

I'd happily give em all away if I could

[tiny oar]

i crafted thousands of mods and i still didnt get a single pfe mod

[lunar hare]

rngesus give me this man's luck

[tiny oar]

imagine if i had to drop them

[flat flower]

Ah these PFE mods I got from summit. If only you could craft a 13 pfe

[lunar hare]

PfE mods can't be crafted afaik

[flat flower]

I've crafted them, they only went to a max of 12 tho

[tiny oar]

you can, but they def wont be maxed out

crafting bench only give you low rolls or midrolls at best

cause devs wants you to drop what you need

[flat flower]

PfE was a mod that didn't drop maxed out, repair skills, and I'm pretty sure pistols wouldn't drop as godroll either

[tiny oar]

they dont want you to farm for mats to then craft

[flat flower]

By drop I mean crafted

[flat flower]

They don't wanna fix a lot of bugs from years ago either... So the pattern persists

Whole community jumped for joy when the reload bug got fixed 😂

[stark heron]

Its been a pos bug for ages

[umbral pike]

What’s the best way to farm perfectly un breakable talent vest I haven’t gotten a single one from farming targeted loot

[stark heron]

Get lucky lol

Thats your only option

Zero Fs and Palisade regular vest are some of the rarest drops tbh

[hexed sentinel]

||now im curious who the Cabal is||

[kind veldt]

it's just a generic term no?

[hexed sentinel]

but who are they exactly

[stark heron]

Its basically a group of elitists who control the world

[tiny oar]

nobody knows, it just dropped on last mission

[stark heron]

Through their combined wealth and status

[kind veldt]

generic term for people with power behind the curtains

[hexed sentinel]

still doesnt kill my curiosity

[stark heron]

Sokolova is the only person we know of

[kind veldt]

so far it's implied to be Mcmanus and natalya until they pull out more names out of a hat

[stark heron]

McManus is just a loyal dog to the cabal it seems

[hexed sentinel]

there was a note from last season where Kelso said there's something bigger than Hunters and Black Tusk

[kind veldt]

aliens

[hexed sentinel]

👽

[stark heron]

Then again those notes could've been keener

Some of em maybe

[tiny oar]

we dont even know if she is one

[stark heron]

The comm mentions it

Natalya is one, mcmanus tried to but lacks status and wealth

But we'll find out eventually

[spare cove]

All the notes in this season's comms are from Keener.

The way the notes are written definitely speaks Keener

[stark heron]

Was on abt Y6S1 vanguards notes

They were simply signed off with -K

[spare cove]

Oh, you were talking about Y5S3 Vanguard notes?

[stark heron]

That was Y5S3?

Oh god lmao

Wait no wasnt y5s3 the recruiter

[tiny oar]

k could be kelso tho

[spare cove]

No, the recruiter is Y5S2

[stark heron]

Could be keener too

[tiny oar]

yeah but nobody can be sure

[spare cove]

It's definitely Kelso. The fifth and final note mentions Manny wouldn't understand and try to stop her being in league with Keener

[topaz robin]

Hmmm

When I just went back and did the old general anderson manhunt it's not saying completed

which is wierd because all my other ones I've done while they were old and they show completed

Some sort of glitch possibly?

[tiny oar]

the "completed" mark is random, and will change with time, sometime it will say completed and revert and then go back to completed again

just ignore it, doesnt change anything

[topaz robin]

Copy.

[hexed sentinel]

is the textile exchange here yet or

im clueless

[kind veldt]

there is a vendor that appears at the same time as the gun runner that uses textile on his shop

tends to sell god rolled items and limited caches

[tiny oar]

its a vendor ingame, you need to find its location via snitch

[kind veldt]

needs to find the snitch also to talk to him

[hexed sentinel]

yea i gotta find the snitch now

just wanted to know if the textile vendor update came

havent played in like a month or so

[kind veldt]

he came out like 4 months ago

[hexed sentinel]

yea i've been living under the rock

[full zinc]

same

[stark heron]

We need it for the 5x xp event tbh

[tiny oar]

I would just set up a macro tbh

But idk if anticheat would trigger

It's bad but still exist

[lethal sonnet]

Anyway to acquire multiple Dodge City Holsters? By that I mean one per character ofc.

[frosty wadi]

Search for holsters

[hybrid ore]

@lethal sonnet To clarify: once you have finished the Project, that character and all that you buy the Crafting Vendor shared BP with, are able to farm the Dodge City Holster via Targeted Loot: Holster.
Make sure you play on Challenging or above, as always.

[lethal sonnet]

Understood. Thanks.

[rain hedge]

so kajika takes damage during the entire mission, i wonder if anyone’s tried to one shot him before the finale

[tiny oar]

He doesn't die, stays at 1hp and then poof out until next encounter

Same for his 3 phases, if you oneshot he just retreat and the fight continue, but he regens full hp each time

[kind veldt]

well you could kill him and get a boss drop, but he owuld just appear again in the next scripted event

[analog fiber]

Hello, kinda noob here and I think I probably wasted the resource bonus I got since then so my question is:

How many times can you optimize a trait and when is the best time to optimize a trait?

[small spear]

• it depends on how low from max the stat is
• ideally you farm a piece that has the highest stat it can be and you only need to optimize a few, or the piece is so rare

and you get more resources after level ups so don't worry

[analog fiber]

Okay coz when I tried to optimize a stat like up to 90%, the button to optimize it further is gone. So I figured that you can only optimize a stat up to 3 times.. is that true or you can really optimize it infinitely as long as you have resource?

[small spear]

you have to have the maxed stat in your library

with that done, you need to have enough resources

[analog fiber]

You mean I really have to 100% all the stats in the library. Got it

[small spear]

yes

[analog fiber]

thank you! I didnt knew the library and the optimization is related

[nocturne frigate]

yeah dcd on challenging was ez

dont need 20 minutes to do dcd

you can easily solo it in 14-16

[molten verge]

is the system corruption set fun to use

[frosty wadi]

No

Legit they should’ve left the bug remain on it

It had a bug with the armor kit rework where you use the quick use armor kit still for effectively the same amount of armor back for a shorter duration, only downside was you didn’t get your buffs which made it fair, but then they patched it so that its the same duration as the main armor kit

Point is system corruption should have this change reverted because otherwise it really has no reason to actually exist and Im certain that theres a lot of people who don’t know it exists

[kind veldt]

it holds a weird spot for PVP

i certainly would like it to see it buffed for general use

[frosty wadi]

I honestly think reverting the quick use change (and removing its exclusivity drop rate) would actually fix the gearset

The problem is that it now is a danger to yourself because any build has a quick use armor kit, and on a significantly shorter cooldown, so half the gimmick of the gearset is essentially just shutdown

[oak steeple]

guys - I'm in a group with someone in lvl 40 but can't unlock the watch

doesn't show up for him...

any ideas what he's missing?

he is in DC but also ownes the WONY

nvm - fixed just by going to BOO

[still atlas]

Is anyone experiencing a bug on the control points? Cps stuck at lvl 1 even though the world difficulty is at heroic, tried changing to challenging but still continues to be stuck at lvl 1 cps. Logged out and back in still same.

[hazy snow]

I have a question what does the level 30 boost do does it only bring to level 30 or does it also complete all content before wony?

[abstract rapids]

boost to level 30 and remove side mission

also give you the same access as completing the DC main story such as main mission, stronghold acces and Tidal

and unlock invaded area + access to WONY

[mild ether]

does anyone have an tips that worked for them that stop or reduce crashing on pc?

[tiny oar]

i unplugged my controller

idk why but it stopped all crashing for me basically

[mild ether]

@tiny oar I dont have a controller plugged 😅

[tiny oar]

then try changing setting to lower values

[broken solstice]

is there enough correlation between controllers plugged in and crashing? like does unplugging the controller change anything for other people cuz I always have a controller plugged in and i almost never crash

[kind veldt]

i crash if i leave a controller plugged in

in my case i was able to draw line to EAC having issues with my controller

i think i offered the same advice to someone and it was their headphone that was causing crashes

guess EAC keeps checking the drivers of stuff and just freezes and wont come back

for example elden ring wouldnt close no matter what i did if i kept my controller on

process would keep running, couldnt close from task manager or other similar services

unplug the controller than poof, it closes by itself

[broken solstice]

ahh yeah that makes good sense

[timber hatch]

Is this on a character that hasn't completed WONY?

[lapis junco]

held

they nerfed it into the ground by making quick kit put main talent on cooldown

which makes zero sense

[broken solstice]

i think theres a "side mission" you have to complete which is just basically interacting with someone at the white house

[grave plinth]

Hardly anything in this game makes any sense. Especially gameplay wise. Increasing mob speed with rising difficulty lmao. It's like shooting the Benny Hill Show

[tiny oar]

i used to crash like few times a day, now 0 crash for weeks so i guess it correlates for me

[broken solstice]

yeah ive heard a few people saying that it got results so im just an outlier or whatever

[spare cove]

If we're gonna go this far, I'd say a looter shooter in a modern setting makes zero sense

Yet, here we are

[tiny oar]

"wym a kneepad make my pewpew shoot harder"

[spare cove]

I wouldn't mind a single-player spin-off with some realism elements. But then again, Ubi treats the Division like a stepchild, so chances of that are frickin low

[still atlas]

I'm not sure m8, askin for a friend, Would that make a difference?

[timber hatch]

There's a fair amount of bugginess with level 40s that haven't done wony, I think that's one of the bugs

[still atlas]

I'll ask him/her and I'll report back on it. 👍🏻 cheers for a response.

[vale rune]

Wait 1 month for changes, takes some time since season is still ongoing.

[grave plinth]

You are right, but that's not what I mean. Let's start with something simple: I fail to understand why my SUPER DIVISION AGENT slows down from running when I shoot or even aim my weapon, yet any trash mob doesn't....Why trashmobs throw grenades....sorry....ATOMIC grenades at light speed and my super division agent throws marshmallows, which every trash mob simply evades. And so on

[tiny oar]

its called gameplay balance

[kind veldt]

player rules and enemy rules are different depending on the game

[tiny oar]

yep

enemy has infinite ammo too

[kind veldt]

little mac cant do 1/3 of what other boxers can in his game yet he wins

[abstract rapids]

I'll just add: you are more smart

[kind veldt]

players tend to be swiss army knives compared to enemies that are just a hammer

dont ask a hammer to cut a rope or screw something back in place

[tiny oar]

jack of all trades

[full zinc]

if throwing marshmallows, maybe a trip over to #td2-build-advice and check out the pinned spreadsheet... sounds like a build issue

[stark heron]

Wtf

Shd 7708 has a m700 tactical, with STRAINED

[small spear]

he knows something we don't

[stark heron]

Hotshot build asw

Wait nvm, ninjabike + 2pc hotshot, perfect headhunter chest, airaldi gloves and providence knees???

Dude does not want the hotshot 4pc

[hybrid ore]

You super don't need 4pc Hotshot.

I mean with the bonuses being what they are and the requirements for a certain Chest Talent, a 2pc might even work.

[abstract rapids]

I'm currently only using 3 pc hotshot

dealing enough damage

9.5M for the first hit

[hybrid ore]

3pc is the damage+speed run meta, yeah.

[kind veldt]

If hes killing stuff then its fine

[stark heron]

Fair enough honestly

[stark heron]

Would explain the strained m700 tac

[abstract rapids]

Using Sr-1 but M700 also work

[stark heron]

Any magazine sniper

[abstract rapids]

I just found the SR-1 first

[stark heron]

The single loaders are mid

[abstract rapids]

(with the right stat)

[small spear]

sr-1 my goat

[stark heron]

Can't even up their mag size

[real creek]

0 pc hots works too

[hybrid ore]

Well not any-any mag sniper.
srs/sr-1 are actually the strongest ones, overall.

[stark heron]

Sr-1 feels nice too

[kind veldt]

Well they were my favourite so its nice they are in a better place now

[abstract rapids]

I found it pretty confortable

Really big mag

[hybrid ore]

They also colour really well, which as we know is the important part.

[abstract rapids]

And really quick on scope or not

[abstract rapids]

The most important part, that's why I loved the White Death

[hybrid ore]

Ah see that doesn't colour properly, because it leaves a free spot under your trigger-glove.

4/10, would not use Manhunt Weapon Skin on it.

[abstract rapids]

I'm not using the Manhunt skin

[hybrid ore]

Exactly, that's why it's a 4/10.

[abstract rapids]

I prefer the Carbon skin

[tiny oar]

what manhunt skin ?

[abstract rapids]

https://i.imgur.com/fA5UtZf.png

This is the manhunt skin

[tiny oar]

not bad

i'll try it

but i seen some bad news, the *5xp event is when i wont be able to play the game i think

cause i'll be away

rip my and my shd

[real creek]

You don't need more SHD.

[tiny oar]

ah its premium credits only nvm

[tiny oar]

i do, for scav points

[real creek]

I'm gonna level two mules this weekend.

Come to me scav points

[abstract rapids]

I got it for free

I forgot where but probably on a manhunt

[spare cove]

Probably from Season 1 or 2.

[tiny oar]

ah nvm im mixing skins

[spare cove]

Would be nice if they give an icon that indicates which season a brand piece, gearset/exotic, weapons, weapon/gear skin came from

[hybrid ore]

The Manhunt Skin was part of the first ever Season Pass, aye.
You got it for free if you bought a certain edition of WONY back in the day.

[stiff coyote]

Having brain damage fighting sparkle

[abstract rapids]

I just remember having picked the cheapest WONY edition at that time

[hybrid ore]

@stiff coyote If you're having trouble, what helped me a lot was using Liberty+Bulwark shield.

[abstract rapids]

And I don't have access to the first Season Pass

[stiff coyote]

Dw, i just knew about about shield trick so the fire is not even a problem after that

It just before i knew that, sparkle turned me into well done steak everytime

And i think i should get liberty exotic also, since a lot of my build use shield

[dusty ridge]

vengeance is sweet ran into a guy who just killing me in the dz during my first couple of weeks

[stiff coyote]

Is there even a point going into DZ?

I go inside a few time and it just seem empty to me, most other people i saw inside also just farming landmark

[dusty ridge]

now im lvled and experienced in the dz i farmed him to manhunt

[broken solstice]

time of day and day of the week are factors

[lunar hare]

I just go in for Exo runs

[dusty ridge]

im hoping shd1000 will be better otherwise im gonna vpn

[stiff coyote]

Like exclusive drop?

[dusty ridge]

even have a 100% pulse resistance and tank build for when i do get a rare drop

[lunar hare]

Exotic components out if dz boxes

[dusty ridge]

got ravenous so it can happen

[stiff coyote]

Ah

[dusty ridge]

yaal and system corruption are exclsuive there are guns i found in the dz i havent seen anwywhere else as well

[stiff coyote]

Im a pve main so i dont go into DZ that often anyway

Most of my stuff can just be farmed outside instead

[dusty ridge]

you wont like it then

[stiff coyote]

Ye, even in the first game

[dusty ridge]

i like the surprise and adrenline rush factor

[stiff coyote]

Not a fan of pvp

Most case i just get shocked and sent to heaven in the first few second

[dusty ridge]

its an acquired taste

makes you a better player for me anyway

[tiny oar]

yeah but some weapon/gear are dz exclusive so you need to go there

[stiff coyote]

Good in pvp and pve is not the same for me

Since both have it own playstyle and tactic

[dusty ridge]

something special about been hammered by a all named elite tusk squad and someone goes rogue on you

you managed both and walk away

[tiny oar]

insane how people call for backup are so toxic

[real creek]

Who doesn't like being kicked right after you revive someone from a backup call.

[tiny oar]

im just trying to get endorsements but people really dont want to give it

[real creek]

Yep, Id suggest joining getting your one and getting out. If it's super low level it might be best to just leave cause the xp to fill the auto endorse is too slow imo.

[tiny oar]

yeah its a pain

idk how im gonna get the 25 needed

[real creek]

Start early in the season and do a bit every week.

[tiny oar]

yeah thats what i did

im only rank 5 rn its a pain man

[hybrid ore]

If it helps, no one is going to notice the Shepard Rank.

[real creek]

5... Breh you might not make it this season...

[tiny oar]

i want to commendation

[tiny oar]

if i dont make it this season i'll never make it

[real creek]

I used to call for backup a bit to help others get endorsements and sometimes they would be like why did you call for backup you don't need help. Brother I'm helping those in need of endorsements.

[tiny oar]

yeah most people calling are def not nice people

half of them are afk too

i think like 40% of them call for keener fight at the end

so not enough to get endorsement, then they leave

[hybrid ore]

Well a level-up is an instant Endorsement, last I checked.
Most of the time a completed mission will get you one, depending on the diff/Directives of course.

[tiny oar]

nah, last fight alone isnt a full lvl

even with mission completion

one of them actually told me to carry him through legendary too xd

[hybrid ore]

Their level-up, not yours, unless I've been mistaken for years.
So a completed Liberty Island should get you one, or very very close to it. Maybe offer to do a quick activity for them before you leave.

[tiny oar]

im talking the manhunt mission

and i done it 3 times, no endorsement

after that they just leave the group instantly

[hybrid ore]

Are you getting endorsements from any other completed missions?

[tiny oar]

yes, the only endorsement i got so far was from a completed mission, invaded jefferson

every other time it wasnt a mission or it was keener manhunt

[hybrid ore]

Assuming they are getting a level-up, then it's likely bugged, as is the call-for-backup system, to the point where I usually only get someone responding to it once I've finished a mission.

[tiny oar]

idk, this manhunt didnt give me anything, but other mission did

maybe manhunt xp is bugged

still, its a pain

[tiny oar]

yay another endorsement

what a pain

[south glen]

Is anyone’s matchmaking not working not working on Xbox or is it usually dead around the morning

[hybrid ore]

Div2's player-base mostly works off USA times for the "busy" bits.

[lethal sonnet]

@hybrid ore Do you have any idea as to how Vindicator’s rolls on sale work? I’m aware that they differ across characters and change on daily refresh, but I’ve also heard that they have a limited stat pool they can roll with weekly.

[cinder nacelle]

Game feels pretty dead for me on Xbox the last week or so. Can't matchmake at all for bounty and even invaded missions are a struggle. This is new since previous time I was playing I didn't have an issue finding people.

[tiny oar]

it depends where you live and your time of day

[uneven rain]

what timezone

[stiff coyote]

Bruh i got DC mid fight with agent johnson

That fight is so hard though

[uneven rain]

What dif

We just did it

[stiff coyote]

Heroic

[uneven rain]

Why are you doing that on heroic?

[stiff coyote]

Why not?

[cinder nacelle]

I'm in Europe. I've always been in this time zone and it's never been this quiet for me. Just doing the manhunt and not getting a single join for the bounties when before I could frequently get a full squad 😕 .

[stiff coyote]

I always try to clear all mission on heroic

[uneven rain]

They are same diff as challenging just more health and armor

[lunar hare]

Does it matter?

[uneven rain]

I'd just do it on challenging to get credit.

Only things worth doing on harder diffs are strong holds and the tower thing.

[stiff coyote]

I do it heroic because it my first fight

[uneven rain]

Not really, just it doesn't give much else aside from the rewards for the fight.

So its just easier.

[uneven rain]

I'm on PC and typically its afternoons for whatever time zone that I join in that has the most. I play with EU friend so i get EU hot time and then Im US so he gets US hottime.

[stiff coyote]

Rip though

So close, too bad ubisoft server do a little trolling

[uneven rain]

You doing it through again or?

[stiff coyote]

Not now tbh, died like almost >15 times already

[uneven rain]

Got me and another we can run with.

It tech make it harder but not really if you don't have a garbage build.

[stiff coyote]

Remove your ui and tech mid fight is nasty

[uneven rain]

Not really.

[stiff coyote]

Sorry for being casual

[uneven rain]

Its just keeping track of them.

Thats annoying.

If you wanna run it again send me your ubi and we can kill it.

[stiff coyote]

Maybe

[uneven rain]

Your choice. I already skinned him once.

[stiff coyote]

It not like a big deal tbh

He should be hard so ye

A hunter after all

[uneven rain]

Whats hard is legendary hunter.

[lunar hare]

Feels like a different gameplay without the UI

[stiff coyote]

Ye

[lunar hare]

Oxidizer.
HH.

[uneven rain]

Is this game not crossplay?

[lunar hare]

No.

[uneven rain]

Weird.

[stiff coyote]

Never been crossplay to begin with

[uneven rain]

With its population, i'd think itd be common sense for keeping lobbies full.

[lunar hare]

Hopefully div3 will have this

[uneven rain]

Guess its too much money for them to do so.

[stiff coyote]

The div 3 we got is that goofy ah mobile game

[uneven rain]

There's division three been announced.

Its sometime in....what 2025?

[lunar hare]

is it out already? Haven't seen

[stiff coyote]

No

[lunar hare]

More than that, about 3 years or more

[stiff coyote]

I think it at the end this year

[uneven rain]

Def not end of this year.

Don't give me hope.

[stiff coyote]

Just let me check again

Ok so that goofy ah mobile game will be out in 27 dec 2024

[lunar hare]

Fair

[stiff coyote]

I think we also got another expansion for D2 in 2025?

[lunar hare]

Brooklyn

[hybrid ore]

(March, as of right now) is the current date for the Expansion DLC for div2.

[uneven rain]

I want them to make a dlc in Appalachia.

[stiff coyote]

I want winter new york again

[uneven rain]

I want the option to kiss hunters on the mask.

[hybrid ore]

I want to remove my eyes after reading that.

[lunar hare]

holy mother of rouges

[stiff coyote]

I want to become rouge after reading that

[real creek]

rougue

[lunar hare]

weirdest thing of the week

[stiff coyote]

Dont know if the expantion will give us anymore new bonus gear set or not

[hybrid ore]

Every new Season has more Gearsets, so an Expansion certainly will.

[uneven rain]

How is that actually the weirdest thing you've read?

That's tame as hell.

[real creek]

Maybe he doesn't go to those parts of the internet?

[lunar hare]

At all*

[real creek]

PFP suggest otherwise tho...

[stiff coyote]

I want my old final measure build

[lunar hare]

Let's not get deep into that topic lol

[stiff coyote]

Im sick of suicide drone and GL spam

[lunar hare]

yeah... no

[hybrid ore]

You've already had the Final Measure, so you can't have any more measures after it.

[stiff coyote]

What a shame

Just give me a set that let me become a suicide bomber myself

[lunar hare]

You mean an outcast rusher?

[stiff coyote]

Yes

Either that or i just want my old support station back

[hybrid ore]

I will take that set, as long as it plays the headless bomber sound from Serious Sam the entire time it's equipped.

for those who haven't heard that, do yourself a favour and go look it up.

[stiff coyote]

Lol

Still though, i hope there is a way to read or replay all the old dialogue from manhunt

[abstract rapids]

o_O

Feeling so old hearing from Div 1 build set

[stiff coyote]

Since i dont understand a single thing just from the boss manhunt mission alone

[tiny oar]

there is

you need to redo last mission of previous manhunts for missing audio logs

[stiff coyote]

Like when kelso tell you to come back to the white house but it just gone after that

[hybrid ore]

ExceptfortheRecruiterwhereyouhavetodoitaswellbutthenalsodoahiddenmissionthat'smoreofascavengerhunt.

[stiff coyote]

Then i have no clues until the next manhunt story said that she went back to new york

[tiny oar]

its bugged for me :(

[stiff coyote]

(I still have 0 clues why)

[hybrid ore]

Why waste many spacebars when none do the trick.

[lunar hare]

this made my brain itch

[tiny oar]

come one let us have some good references too you're taking them all