td2-general-chat

[hearty patio]

ah ok been trying to kill that random hunter that spawns near the washington monument

[undone timber]

One key per week on each character

Otherwise they can be run whenever

[vale rune]

Is it truth that 2.0 is cancelled and they might add something instead of seasonal characters? Read it on news

[fair lake]

Seasonal characters are cancelled (thanks god) - everything else stays, however, it's difficult to see them adapting things fast enough to NOT delay next season

[hybrid ore]

Nothing is cancelled, everything is in flux. Anyone who claims to know more than the information posted over in #news-and-announcements is making things up or assuming things.

The general consensus seems to imply that they may not be mandatory for Manhunt progress in the future, but again: no one knows yet.

[vale rune]

Well its a message from division 2 team on twitter and massive entertainment has confirmed that seasonal characters has been cancelled.

[hybrid ore]

Source?

I'm going purely off the information posted in #news-and-announcements

[vale rune]

Yup i can send you dm

[spare cove]

I feel like I'm going insane with all the insinuations over seasonal characters or seasons 2.0 being cancelled

[hybrid ore]

Considering how many people were outright lying about the information in the first place, it's hard to blame you.

[cyan narwhal]

"progression without seasonal character" doesnt mean they are cancelled. that couldve mean u can do everything with main without waiting for last 2 week of manhunt. maybe im wrong but gotta wait until they stream in depth about it.

[vale rune]

But main character will not start from level 1 every third month

?

[spare cove]

What? No. The idea, at least initially, was to have you play a seasonal character from 1 to 40 to play through the Manhunt

Y'know, a separate character from your main

[fair lake]

You're right about that phrasing - maybe just the mandatory usage of seasonal characters is cancelled, but they may stay as an option to try if you'd like to

[hybrid ore]

@vale rune You have that link yet?

[vale rune]

Sendt dm a while ago 🙂

[hybrid ore]

Okay received.
aaaand yep, it's just the image from #news-and-announcements and a speculative 3rd party article.

[vale rune]

Yup i saw it after i sendt. But its going to be interesting:).

[hybrid ore]

Let's ease off on the clickbait and wait for actual news from now on.

[serene barn]

Wrong section, my friend.

[hybrid ore]

@stark fern You're looking for #lfg-raid-console, also try the GCrock/community server.

[stark fern]

whatever

[fluid meadow]

Nice

[tiny oar]

But how will people click on my vidéos and make my view counter go up if im honest tho :(

[narrow dawn]

Looking for active clan

[dapper atlas]

Check #td2-clan-recruitment

[narrow dawn]

Thx just sended a message but its al.pc no playstation

[hybrid ore]

#td2-clan-recruitment is not platform specific, you can look/post for any of them on there.

[fickle swift]

Chapter 5 for Gunner bugged?

[undone timber]

which part

[fickle swift]

i must kill the basilisk

the basilisk doesnt spawn xD

[rough sleet]

are you sure you're doing it under a non-invaded/non-manhunt version of the mission?

[fickle swift]

the area is red marked

[rough sleet]

sounds like invaded. select mission on map, the look at bottom for keybind for you to change mission settings, then when that appears toggle mission mode

[fickle swift]

ah

[rough sleet]

can also do it as the settings screen when you're directly in front of mission start area...just make sure it says you're doing the oucast version. "breach the outcast stronghold" and you should be good to go

[fickle swift]

It was invaded, i have change it, i doesnt have know it before, THanks Kirra ❤️

[rough sleet]

np, enjoy and gl

[fickle swift]

You Too!

[ivory pebble]

hello im new to the game

[tiny oar]

hi, welcome to the div

[azure lintel]

The seasonal model was scrapped?

Sads, I actually wanted to try that.

At least the abyss mode is fun.

[tiny oar]

not scrapped

they said they changed it

[hybrid ore]

@azure lintel The only concrete information we have right now is this post #news-and-announcements message.

[azure lintel]

Any tips for destroy basilisk armor on gunner field stage 5.

[rough sleet]

pistol, some people say use nade launchers as it destroys armor equally as a whole....some people use the tree/log and hop over to avoid him while keeping him close....uhm....

[kind veldt]

others say oxidizer also

hits all parts equally or i'm crazy again?

[rough sleet]

i tried it but it never worked for me but that could be an error on my parts. too low skill build or something so can't comment

but yes, oxidizer was supposed to be same way and hit all at once equally

[worthy onyx]

Optimally skill tier 6 build with proper attributes, sniper turret and decoy.

Kill all other enemies, cycle between sniper turret and decoy based on cooldown, shoot oxies when he is in totally in the radius.

Obviously don't shoot him with any other source of damage

[wicked surge]

sorry to ask more goofery again

but do any of y'all have the Armor icon from D2 on hand?

the shield with the cross on it

[tiny oar]

wym the icon ?

like on a png ?

[fickle swift]

I have the same problem. i cant find the Boss ''Basilisk'' its not invaded but it is ''Flagged'' how can i now finally kill the Boss? he doesnt spawn in the Mission.

[tidal aspen]

So, target farming. I'm looking at theap and don't see any gear icons. Do I need to toggle something, or what? PC

[kind veldt]

are you fighting the outcasts?

[kind veldt]

press a button on the map menu and you can what missions/zones are dropping what type of gear, summit and countdown if you hover over them you can press a different button to select what kind of gear they drop

[tidal aspen]

Any idea what button on PC?

[kind veldt]

it appears down there in the map, i didnt say the button because i dont remember

[tidal aspen]

Weird. I don't see it. Guess I haven't unlocked it or whatever.

[modest lintel]

press map, press "R"

im sure it's in the setting if u look up....

[tidal aspen]

I looked in the settings. Didn't see it. Nothing happens when I press R.

Just forget it. I appreciate your help. I will figure it out. Thanks.

[kind veldt]

are you max level?

or still doing the campaign?

[modest lintel]

i guess not

[tidal aspen]

I'm 30. What's max level these days?

[kind veldt]

40 now

[tiny oar]

40

[tidal aspen]

I haven't played in years.

Oh.

[kind veldt]

they let everyone to up to max level and play extra game modes without the DLC

[iron dragon]

Is there any rp groups in here

[fickle swift]

wdym? i need finally this shit basilisk Boss.

[kind veldt]

just checking if you were not doing invaded again

[hybrid ore]

@iron dragon That's not really a thing on this server, but I guess you can look down in #td2-clan-recruitment and find some folks.

[tiny oar]

in here no, and i dont think you'll find any at all elsewhere

[full zinc]

You're probably in Jupiter manhunt mission. On site, goto mission options and hold g. This should swap mode to replay where basilisk will spawn.

[fickle swift]

i have it finally, thanks for help

[fickle swift]

How can i find text builds for Div 2? primary in German.

[tiny oar]

not here lol

try german forums

[full zinc]

There is a build sheet in the pins of #td2-build-advice

It's in english but you could probably copy paste into google to translate. There is also screenshots of the builds which will make it easy to match up needed brands/gearsets. Builds are up to date for current season

[fickle swift]

Thanks. - Where can i farm my gear with fresh 40 als newbie in Div 2?

[tidal aspen]

I'm sorry, guys, for all the dumb questions. But it's been several years since I played this game... I thought there was some way to reroll Talents and Attributes on gear. Is that not the case?

[full zinc]

Countdown is a fast gear farm, you select your target loot.

[tiny oar]

yes you can, at the tinkering station

the name just changed thats all

[full zinc]

Accessible on inventory screen, or when you select the item, hit m iirc

[tiny oar]

ye also

[sullen viper]

the post launch content for the division 2 has over its lifetime been a bit wonky

i thinks its cool they support the game again, but its like i feel like they could have put more effort into adding new content earlier

[lunar hare]

They've been working on Brooklyn DLC for a long time iirc. So that's not putting effort with new content?
What about them trying to get us new exotics? (yeah, these new exos are trashy but at least they're trying).
What about Seasons 2.0?

[kind veldt]

i think he means that they drop a bomb of content

then it's about milking it until it's dry for a long time then another bomb, so after the initial honeymoon periodo people lose interest a bit

so the updates feel small because they are working on something super big

i mean of course this game has it's own story of weird developtment of support ending then coming back that most regular folks are familiar about

[azure lintel]

uhhh

is a softlock on the seocnd manhunt mission a common bug?

huh

[kind veldt]

what exactly happened? and you mean hornet manhunt?

[azure lintel]

lol I think Aoki means the second manhunt objective for this season

[kind veldt]

oh right

let me guess it's a bounty and you cant find it?

[azure lintel]

props to you for remembering hornet tho! I honestly... these seasons in one ear out the other for me 😛

[lunar hare]

good point

[kind veldt]

from my memory, jupiter, hornet, Black tusk guy we kidnapped, Faye, Lewis, general anderson, saving kidnapped people, the hunter guy, investigate kelso and now keener but not really?

[azure lintel]

Manny's Fish Wife Season is saving kidnapped people right

[kind veldt]

yeah

cant remember her name

just like i cant remember the black tusk guy we fought/kidnapped and now is in a comma

[azure lintel]

The only thing that sticks out to me is how good the Mycro/Vikram comms were. I want more comms like that

[kind veldt]

i honestly cant be botheres to remember name of 90% or the characters because they lack impact and charisma

and personality/charisma is not dropping random quips like a marvel movie

[azure lintel]

yeah same feeling that's why I only remember the aforementioned because they were legit funny

[kind veldt]

i remember some details more because whoever datamined some stuff actually bothered to make a note about who was who

i wouldnt comment about that in details here if i were you, might wanna delete that

[azure lintel]

k removed

[spare cove]

Mari Singh and Bardon Schaeffer

Bardon Schaeffer being the Black Tusk officer we captured after injuring him in season 3.

[azure lintel]

urghhh wasnt descent just gluttony before the last rotation

in case anyone cares, i can confirm this season does reward a First Rogue Nemesis arm patch (it took 3 weeks of clearing nemesis on 4 characters before it appeared in my inventory) but i dont believe any of the rank patches exist

[tardy tangle]

What about Natalya or General Anderson?

[kind veldt]

they are in the 10%

doesnt mean they have real charisma

[lilac mural]

Anyone here encountering DELTA-01 error trying to login to the game?

[tardy tangle]

Anderson used to have some before season 9

Nat on the other hand is boring

[spare cove]

I guess we'll just agree to disagree

[humble laurel]

Cannot switch LO because inventory is full... yet my inventory isn't full.

[tardy willow]

How’s everyone doing ?

I’m trying to find active division 1 players

[odd totem]

Anyone know if there’s a way to get your account back?

[kind veldt]

contact ubi support, no way anyone here can handle that

[lapis junco]

youd probably have to go through playstation themselves

[tiny oar]

Lol they all boring tbh cause they need to make content that last forever so everyone become boring

The rare that arent are from div 1 and even them became boring now

Keener was insanely popular in div 1 cause he was really interesting

In div 2 he was just another bad guy that we killed

But since he was popular they brought him back somehow

Every manhunt was generic basically cause it's the same content, do a CP, do a bounty, then do another, then a mission with another faction from the usual

You cant have interesting stories this way

And devs know this, that's why they wanted seasons 2.0

Destiny is a bad game but when New season drop there is a new game mode, it's never incredible or even good sometimes, but it's new

In div 2 we got summit and CD, wvich are pretty good but that's it, no new game modes aside from that

Problem is all of this require too much work and they dont have the man power

[kind veldt]

descent?

[tiny oar]

Descent is new but not good lol

But yeah it exist

[tropic sentinel]

Same with destiny, but yeah it exists too.

[stray comet]

I took a new character and leveled up to 40 in DC. Now when I wanna go to NYC, I can't. There are no helicopter.

[modest lintel]

Did they fix the CP reset every time u log in?

[tropic sentinel]

Pilot is sitting on the chair west from the boo entrance.

[stray comet]

Found him. Much obliged to you, thank you 🙂

[tropic sentinel]

No.

[modest lintel]

thanks

[quartz vigil]

Since I do not have a good named or exotic AR yet, what are some high grade alternatives I should keep an eye open for while I try to farm for one?

Also, AR mostly focuses on CC and CD right? Maybe a little Headshot Damage thrown in there too I recon

[tiny oar]

Famas or p416 are nice

[rotund temple]

anyone from the US want to make friends, i wanna play on US servers in the DZ due to Australia servers being dead

[frank ether]

Hey I havent played the division in a few years, I just decided to download it and play it again, where do you guys suggest I even start? I was max level before expansions and everything

[tiny oar]

start with making a build up to date

[frank ether]

yeah I'm just confused on where to go or anything, I think I need to watch some youtube videos

[tiny oar]

#td2-build-advice has pinned message with spreadsheets on up to date builds

[frank ether]

thanks

[tardy tangle]

Hopefully seasons 2.0 fixes that

[tiny oar]

yeah but player backlash might be slowing that

[supple niche]

Is it known whether the bugs with the checkpoints will finally be fixed tomorrow?

[tiny oar]

nobody knows

they trying but nothing is certain

if you need more info, check the trello

[kind veldt]

i think he's been asking everyday for a while now

[tiny oar]

i wish there was more ways to get bounties to spawn than just hostage rescue

[tidal aspen]

Hi. Another dumb question from someone coming back to the game after years away... Am I correct in recalling that an Exotic weapon's Talent applies even when some other weapon is being used? So all you need to do is carry the Exotic rathee than actually use it? Or am I insane/senile?

[lunar hare]

Famas or F2000.
You can try Optimist as a talent and DTOC for third attribute.

[lunar hare]

Don't you need some water?

[quartz vigil]

Thanks

[kind veldt]

That was the case looooooooooong time ago when weapons used to have 3 talents, one active, one passive and one when holstered. That stopped being the case 5 or more years ago

guns only have one active talent that they need to be on hands to work (unless it's mentions switching weapons or similar like busy little bee exotic)

there used to be the case where merciless would give you 5% chance for explosive damage, or chatterbox 20% rof increase if you reloaded after killing when those weapons were holstered. That is no more

[tidal aspen]

Got it. Thanks. So does that render something like Chatterbox useless? My old build has it in the loadout for its Talents but never used.

[kind veldt]

it's just kinda an okay gun, if you dont plan to actively use the chatterbox then it wont do anything being holstered, all exotics got reworked because of that so i reccomend re-reading what it does now

[tiny oar]

yeah basically a weapon not being used is not giving any bonuses

you have to at least get it out for the bonus to proc

[zinc shadow]

📠

[small spear]

Vikram when he talks to Birdie during the Recruiter manhunt is a highlight for me

the "W-What?" line just cracks me up

[frosty wadi]

Its wild how the most popular character in the series is just some edgelord doing the whole “im always 2 steps ahead” trope for his entire personality

[spare cove]

Watch out, we got a badass over here

[kind veldt]

weird to have this pop off like 15h later

[frosty wadi]

I was asleep

[tiny oar]

lmao

[tiny oar]

rofl

i wanted to farm a bit of dz for once

10s after going in, someone complains about a cheater in the dz

5s later the same guy complaining kill me from across the map

[small spear]

the meme where you go in the door then turn around and get out immediately

[tiny oar]

well i didnt even got time to get out lol

lmao he spent then the next 10min crying in chat about cheaters

why do unhinged people even play this game

[kind veldt]

happens to every game

i'm just kinda happy most of the issue locked away in the DZ

while that sucks for the people who like the DZ

[molten spire]

the Internet has revolutionized your ability to be exposed to absolute lunatics while being unable to do anything long term about it

[tiny oar]

its not really the case, they cheat in the entire game not just dz, its just more visible in dz

[tardy fern]

to those who have flicked through the games OST, whats your favourite songs to hear

personally i go crazy when queen's gold comes on

[spare cove]

Catch-22 is my top favorite

And I love seeing it used in The Recruiter Manhunt Climax mission cuz it feels like a big F you to that bastard

[barren tiger]

we did it guys...we made enough of an agreed uproar they changed their minds

[lunar hare]

on what?

[spare cove]

The seasonal characters

Even though our fella is several days late

[lunar hare]

not this again...

[barren tiger]

the missing ammo when reloading

missingg ammo when reloading after swapping weapons

what did oyu all think i was tlaking about?

https://i.redd.it/4v1u1tzdhlcd1.jpeg

[lunar hare]

Since you give no context we thought you were talking about Seasons 2.0

[small spear]

lol

[barren tiger]

it was more fun with no context 😛

[dark sand]

Hey guys how much should the brooklyn cost ... once it comes out in season 3 .. I know we are a long way to get there .. but was wondering

[spare cove]

Probably the same price as WONY

[sterile scaffold]

About tree fiddy

[stark heron]

Prolly like 20-30 usd

[hybrid ore]

It's looking to be a WONY-style expansion, not so much just a "DLC", so yeah I'd assume expansion price as well.

Add in the fact that most of WONY's paid features are now part of the base game and I'm doubly sure.

[tiny oar]

yeah it will prob cost same as wony

hope there is as much content

and maybe even new type of content

[spare cove]

Would be nice if they officially reveal it this year

[kind veldt]

well we knew the game was getting an year 2 but didnt know what was going to be, this time we are extremely aware of the expansion for a long time

[tiny oar]

problem is, before wony the endgame content was inexistent

and super badly balanced

wony was a band aid that ended pretty good, but still

you can see it with hp and damage numbers on lvl 30 compared to 40

destiny for all its flaws has this figured it out

we didnt had seasons before wony, and it really felt bad

[elfin hazel]

one could argue nothing really changed

[tiny oar]

how so ?

[hybrid ore]

MSV as a rule don't really like to reveal stuff too early. WONY itself only got a trailer a month or so before it dropped.

[tiny oar]

im fine with late reveal

as long as content is good thats all i ask

[elfin hazel]

I'd argue sure theres a lot of end game content but if you reach a certain point it all becomes somewhat meaningless and its honestly really easy to hit that point which is a balancing issue with gear

[tiny oar]

u mean right now of before wony ?

[elfin hazel]

right now yes

[tiny oar]

yes right now there is a lot of content thats good, but i was talking before wony

before that expansion, there was nothing, like maybe the raid, kenly college few days every few weeks, and dz

[elfin hazel]

and I'm saying that nothings really changed because a lot of that content becomes almost pointless and its still badly unbalanced

[tiny oar]

i mean there is still invaded missions but after a while it get stale

[elfin hazel]

what good is countdown, summit, descent to people who get told just farm strikers it works for everything most people still haven't and likely wont do the raid or incursion so thats off the table for a lot of people

[tiny oar]

you need endgame for everyone

[elfin hazel]

theres a lot of content but once you reach a build that does it all for you theres not much to really do outside of new targets and those are really short

[tiny oar]

for the hardcore there is raids, for less hardcore there is incusion, and for casual gamers there is cd and summit

but thats not my point

my point was specifically before wony

back then there was nothing basically

like the raid came out, and thats it

no seasonal content, no incursions, no summit, no cd, no descent, that was really bad to be at the endgame and not being able to do raid

and back then almost nobody knew how to do it

so if you were not hardcore, you were really not having a good time

if new expansion brings as much content as we got with wony

i'll be so happy

[cedar mulch]

i just want div3 already

[tiny oar]

i mean

there is no indication div 3 would be better or have more content

if we get the same as div 1 or 2 at start, its gonna be super rough to play

like bad balance, no content to play

[unique bramble]

Especially after seeing what happened to other ubi franchises in the past few years

[sour void]

I think it's better if they continue to build on Div-2, as impossible as it is to hope for.

But as Armor said, this is managed by Ubisoft and the Guilemot-Cosby family.

[tiny oar]

yeah

sadly ubi has def not the greatest track record

[sour void]

It's eventual and possible death would be a mercy at this point

[tiny oar]

i mean, there are other companies that should die first

blizzard and acti for sure

[unique bramble]

They just can't innovate anymore, most of their games are just OK, they aren't bad, just lack new ideas

[tiny oar]

yeah but thats def not a bad thing in the industry compared to what we have

acti/blizz litterally pushed an employee to kill herself over harassment

they name their characters ingame with some of the most prolific harasser and abusers

[sour void]

I meant Div-2's death in light of Ubisodt malice.

[tiny oar]

yeah but its not as bad as killing people

[sour void]

I'm sure the Guilemots are taking notes from Professor Kotick.

[tiny oar]

yeah, but they wouldnt go that far

they are bad people for sure

[sour void]

And I dare say they're irredeemable.

[tiny oar]

idk

unlike kotick, they only want more money e verytime

kotick on the other hand, doesnt satisfy with money, he wants blood

[sour void]

maybe the True Sons were onto something bombarding people with DC-62

[tiny oar]

haha

[sour void]

Would be unfortunate if a yellow dust mortar shell struck a specific yacht.

[tiny oar]

at this point i'd just want my gov to seize control of ubi and put a hold on their bullshit

[unique bramble]

Keener with biochemical weapon: hold my eclipse

[sour void]

I think they need to lock down all major publishers and make them rot from financial entropy.

and make an example out of Kotick

[kind veldt]

i'm sure disney will buy everything eventually

[sour void]

"This red smoke ain't-"
Agent down.

[tiny oar]

disney cant buy ubi, guillemot has majority shares ?

[worthy onyx]

Governments controlling the media always goes so well

[tiny oar]

also that would be bad

[brazen kettle]

Hello
I already asked somewhere else but need to confirm

Is TD2 has ONLY ONE eye patch in in game store?
Isn't there any other?
And if there is, is it lootable or need to pay

[tiny oar]

you'd be surprised how uncontrolled our media is and how unhinged they are

[kind veldt]

that said, i still want my poison/healing granade gear set

[tiny oar]

all skins are either from events or to pay

[worthy onyx]

I was being sarcastic

[tiny oar]

ah xd

[sour void]

I just want someone or something to knock them out of their soapboxes so that they can be rightfully curbstomped into the mud.

[kind veldt]

well cant remember having many eye patches, at most just one or two really

[brazen kettle]

Ok cuz I just looted white glasses so I was wondering

[tiny oar]

wym u looted white glasses ?

[brazen kettle]

I just looted them from the in game world

[kind veldt]

we had weird visors for one eye like DBZ vegeta or helmets with NVG on only one side

[tiny oar]

the orange crates are specific, they only get looted once

[kind veldt]

eyepatches i want to say must have been an event so there shouldnt be any drops

[spare cove]

I feel like any time players who are new or returning after a while ask weird questions

[brazen kettle]

Ok I can't send the picture apparently, but I looted those white glasses from the underground parking, from the simple suitcase

[hybrid ore]

White Tier (also called grey tier) are free from bags you find around the LZ (open world)

[tiny oar]

send it in #ask-td2-community

[hybrid ore]

There's really no reason to send it, it's been in the game since launch.

[tiny oar]

ah its grey tier

[brazen kettle]

I already asked yesterday, no one answered
So I came here to know IF there's another eye patch or we can only buy the one that in the store

[hybrid ore]

There's one in the store right now, it's from an Apparel Event.

[tiny oar]

there is no other eye patch afaik

[brazen kettle]

Sad

[hybrid ore]

Div2's fashion overall is more "tacticool" than "pirate".

[tiny oar]

yeah

[sour void]

I hope the Heartbreaker Armor comes back as an apparel event

Especially the helmet

[hybrid ore]

If it was part of a Season Pass, your only hope is to wait for a re-run of that Season Pass.

[unique bramble]

Shame we didn't have the cyberpunk outfit from the Chinese version

[sour void]

D:

[hybrid ore]

unless some system ingame changes.

[sour void]

Well, here's hoping.

[hybrid ore]

@unique bramble There was a cyberpunk-ish Apparel Event, the final reward was a trench-coat with neon lights.

[tiny oar]

hoping ? in div 2 ? in this economy ?

[sour void]

Oh, right.

[unique bramble]

We keep dreaming so we don't have to wake up

[hybrid ore]

They've run "filler" Apparel Events before, where it's a bunch of stuff from the store as rewards.
So it is possible.

[tiny oar]

tbh, the skins ingame dont look great

asking 10e for thoses is kinda insane

[hybrid ore]

I mean, you can/could get most of them for nothing if you play for long enough, and you can absolutely make a good outfit for even just the 100% free stuff.

[kind veldt]

thats why they ask 15e of the thing people really want

[tiny oar]

some outfit are locked behind the paywall

[hybrid ore]

I've got a white-tier outfit that I've been rocking since day 1. Looks good, just needs the right gearset cover skins for the gear.

[kind veldt]

and yeah HUNK outfit was free, nothing else beat it

[tiny oar]

but yeah none of them are great

i mean they arent horrible

[hybrid ore]

Very much disagree, but it's all personal opinion.

[tiny oar]

yeah ofc

[kind veldt]

you talking poop about HUNK?

[tiny oar]

but i mean i see skins on some other game, that put div 2 to shame

[kind veldt]

i would say that mostly here are good

not jaw dropping great but very good to mix and match

i mean it's hard to make a lot of good shoes honestly

but normal/casual stuff we have is pretety good for everyone

[hybrid ore]

The div2 skin bits fit the aesthetic and are better at "mix and match" than just using them outright.

[tiny oar]

i wish they would go more crazy on the skin, like full fantasy/futuristic/insane themed/etc

like go nuts guys

[hybrid ore]

That's just not the kind of game this is.

There are plenty of games that do that, this one doesn't really.

[kind veldt]

dont want that

[spare cove]

I still think the Operation Crossroads apparel looks great.

And given the occupation that Division agents do, I'd wish they'd do more civilian clothing.

[kind veldt]

the go crazy everyone has 5 different neon colors effect leaking

[tiny oar]

idk, the chrismas skins look insane for this type of game yet here we are

why not go all the way

the apparel event cyberpunk themed was ok, they could just go harder

[hybrid ore]

Santa outfits are not really akin to neon genesis cosplay.

[tiny oar]

no, but they are akin to "not fitting the game"

[spare cove]

Personally, the last thing Division 2 is fortniteification

[unique bramble]

This happens with every game that was supposed to be tactical themed

[hybrid ore]

Div2 is set in a timeline where the world stopped around american Christmas, so there's a lot of christmas stuff around the american city you are in.

you'll notice the massive market just outside of the White House.

[tiny oar]

yeah obv, but thats not why agents wear chrismas outfit

they are here to kill, not give presents

[elfin hazel]

but its not supposed to be tactical themed

[hybrid ore]

Div2 is absolutely tactical themed.

An Agents job is to adapt to survive the situation, they use what they can to do their job.

[tiny oar]

yep

and tbh the complete red + white outfit doesnt really fit that xd

its funny to wear it tho

[elfin hazel]

I think its such a different tactical theme to what almost everyone considers tactical that I view it as its own thing

[hybrid ore]

It's a themed outfit that people only ever really use for <30 days in a year, I think we can give it a pass.

[tiny oar]

yeah thats the thing, we would have it the entire time, and more

thats my opinion

[hybrid ore]

I don't know about you, but I change my clothes more than once a year

[tiny oar]

i dont kjnow about you but most people dont change clothes on character ever in this game xd

[spare cove]

Now, if any live service dev can make a game of theirs engaging all day every day without any player ever getting bored, my life is theirs

[hybrid ore]

I mean that's just assuming. Most people change outfits in games all the time.

[kind veldt]

i mean there people that are probably frotting from their mouth if something is called tactical and doesnt have 12 pouches

[elfin hazel]

its way more casual tactical instead of BLACK ON BLACK TACTICOOL NVG stuff that people always request from this game when its more put on some clothes & gear and go like how some swat teams work

[spare cove]

Considering how some people treat the Division like it's a military unit.... Yeah

[tiny oar]

i mean nobody has stats on this, but really most people i see, they see a good outfit, then stick to it until they leave the game

[hybrid ore]

I see the other way, so again: assumptions.

[tiny oar]

yeah ofc

[hybrid ore]

Honestly I'm just happy a lengthy convo in gen-chat is staying on the div2 topic for this long.

[tiny oar]

haha

[kind veldt]

i mean your favourite new outfit might be in the next apparel event who knows

[tiny oar]

it wasnt so much about div 2 earlier, we talked a lot about ubi

[hybrid ore]

I'm ignoring the auto-mod message already, let's not bring it up so I have to notice it.

[tiny oar]

if new apparel event is about some crazy stuff that actually look good, and not another jacket with some decal on it yeah

[tiny oar]

nothing happenned, no automod happenned, we were all nice and behaving trust me

🫡

[hybrid ore]

Apparel Events are fantastic for adding bits to your outfit options, and that is what I love them for.
Less RE and more CrossyRoad please MSV

[spare cove]

^

I want more agents apparel to look like they go from many different walks of life

[hybrid ore]

I like to make my Countdown Agent look like they broke into 3 different Salvo's Stores to scrounge.

[elfin hazel]

I've been rockin the same two fits for a long while I think at least two years now 💀

I should get around to posting them in divashion honestly

[hybrid ore]

My main keeps my div1 Jacket on, even though it looks like cardboard.

works surprisingly well when combo'd with the grey tier jeans/button-down/aviators.

[unique bramble]

Meanwhile: Rogue agents: hey guys, let's use some dope black outfit to show the SHD that we're the bad guys

[hybrid ore]

Fun fact: when you go Rogue, you also become allergic to any colour brighter than vanta black.

[inner elbow]

I for one welcome more wacky outfits

It's not like the game strictly adheres to the milsim aesthetics anyways

Realism? Meanwhile all guns are hit-scan lmao

[tiny oar]

realism ? you can empty a mag to the head and not even scratch them

realism ? there is a division of homeland security dedicated to help citizen

[unique bramble]

Oh no, I got a bullet on my forehead, let me change the armor plate of my vest and there is, good as new

[tiny oar]

armor plate ? newbie agent, i regen hp and armor by killing people, as god intended

[inner elbow]

Also if you want milsim there's Breakpoint and Wildlands. It's open world, looter shooter, PvE and co-op

[tiny oar]

or r6

or tarkov maybe

[hybrid ore]

The Division aren't meant to help civvies, they're meant for continuity of government.
Anything else is an optional bonus.

[frosty wadi]

Going from casual tactical shooters to Tarkov is crazy

[tiny oar]

are they tho ? cause in div 1 they were mostly there to help the jtf from chaos/looters before 2nd wave, and after they werent in command of anything, they just helped anyone isac said they deserved helping not really caring about what happen

especially when we saw the president go rogue, isac told us to do nothing

they are mostly here to keep order by any mean necessary, thats about it

which is dumb when you think about it, they are legally authorized to do anything needed, but they got 0 supply to help them doing that

anyone with a brain knows any war is won on logistic

thats why black tusk should win, but we got the power fantasy as a player to stop them

[spare cove]

But if we break Black Tusk's logistics, it's completely joever for them

[tiny oar]

yeah but you cant break it if you dont have one yourself

[hybrid ore]

The intention was continuity, the actual implementation was "well we're here now, might as well".

[tiny oar]

they are nation wide, we are alone/small teams

[hybrid ore]

We are absolutely nation-wide, as we're a black-ops program run by the US government.

[tiny oar]

no i mean, there are agents everywhere, but they arent cooperating with each others

they are sperated cells operating on their own

[hybrid ore]

Sure they are, there's just so few of us around that it doesn't really matter.

[spare cove]

Just because the Division was intended for continuity of government doesn't necessarily mean every agent is gonna follow that to the letter.

[hybrid ore]

....yes that is what I said.

Okay let's move this on over to #division-universe, definitely fits there more.

[tiny oar]

oh well, i need sleep anyway

oh come on

im too tired

good night agents

may keener not visit you in your sleep

[spare cove]

And may Black Tusk troops choke on their sleep 😴

[inner elbow]

I've never been Keener to see him

That would make me feel speshul

[frosty wadi]

Thats why the existence of rogues is a thing

[spare cove]

Right

[tidal aspen]

I think Elmo blueprints were a reward for like Year 5 Season 1 pass. Does that mean I can no longer get those blueprints? Can I get the gun?

[tiny oar]

the gun is aviable in loot pool

if you drop it, the blueprint is aviable at inaya iirc

[tidal aspen]

Thank you

[lunar hare]

just got blessed with a almost god rolled MG5 with Optimist

[tidal aspen]

So, I'm kind of stuck. Just came back to the game after years away. Not much gear. Lvl 33. Can't get through New York... Guess I need to level up and/or find better gear. What do y'all recommend?

[small plume]

It's kinda stressing I wasted my money buying that terrible looking white cowboy had

I mean, was it money only or I bought it with materials? I don't remember.

Anyway, now they launched that black hat lol.

Although being a reskin, it looks 50x better.

The OG cowboy boots are better than a black one, tho.

[soft solstice]

best way to get NinjaBike Messenger Bag?

[kind veldt]

Countdown

[soft solstice]

alr do I just put targeted loot as backpack?

[small plume]

Yes.

[stark palm]

What’s the highest lvl my craft table can be. I keep seeing ppl say 40 and some say 500 ☠️

[real moth]

40

[stark palm]

Ty

[small plume]

Odd fun today, it's funny how my mood changed after that tweet.

Customizing my character, finding weapons I longed wished for (like a OG Magnum with Determined and Double-barrel with Pummel, I'm still needing a Diceros with Finisher or Determined, mainly Finisher) and progressing the season.

[lunar hare]

another victim of misinformation, yay.

[small plume]

Nah, I believe they'll do the right thing.

[lunar hare]

There's no "right thing" here.
They just didn't say what they had to completely.

[kind veldt]

it's up to the individual what the right thing here is so chill

[lunar hare]

was pointing out my opinion

[full zinc]

is this still the seasons 2.0 announcement 🥱

because tbf, "reevaluate season 2.0 with particular attention to seasonal characters with the goal of progressing without them", does sound a lot like its either gonna be optional or just that specific part of season 2.0 will be scrapped, with the rest of the planned changes moving forward.. it really doesnt sound like misinformation to come to that conclusion, considering the way it is worded..

[small plume]

I hope they don't make the season progression / story stucked behind seasonal characters, but only new gear, or even customization.

I think that would be cool, we still need to wait, tho.

[kind veldt]

new gear being locked is what would kill for me

"oh neat you made something that could work with an annoying piece i have to farm again"

[full zinc]

personally, if they made it optional that could be a win win for everyone.

[inner elbow]

if they make it optional then what are the chances that no one will use seasonal characters?

[unborn ravine]

You guys need to pay more attention. Seasonal characters are no longer going to be a thing as per the announcemet,

[low lily]

If you mean the announcement what came 12th...that didn't actually say anything concrete tho..all those YouTubers who are saying that season characters won't be a thing is just speculating, we don't know anything really.

[full zinc]

if they went optional i think it would be fair to have regular agents get regular xp, but seasonal agents get 2x-3x xp towards season and leveling.

would still have a good amount of people testing the seasonal characters, while the vets that just want to do their normal thing can grind through with the old method

[full zinc]

i agree, not set in stone. they are implying a change will happen, but we will have to wait and see.

[inner elbow]

Right, so they could give a bigger incentive to use seasonal characters, I like that idea

[full zinc]

yeah, after a first run with some incentive like that, you may even see a lot more support for seasonal agents moving forward

[unborn ravine]

Why are they making such a big change, 5 years into a game. Thats what I want to know lol.

At this point, just make a new game.

[gilded perch]

From business reason, making big change use less resources (money), but bring topics and income

[unborn ravine]

From business the CEO himself said this game was a failure, I don't know why he would green light spending more money on something he said was a failure

[gilded perch]

Make a new game need time, need resources, need marketing research, need promote etc

[gilded perch]

Failure doesn't mean no value
Involved some money to gain more value back, including income, topic, customer loyalty, until it drain

[low lily]

They just wanna do some good cash grab before pulling out the life support

[modest lintel]

life support?

[tiny oar]

cause the seasons right now are boring and not working

they see something not working and try to change it, i dont understand why people are upset

you get the change for free instead of paying 70 bucks for a new game why are people even complaining ?

also the new expansion will bring new players

there is no downside to this

[fluid meadow]

It's more about forcing the player to take a specific path in order to get the seasonal rewards.
Not everyone wants to start fresh in order to get the season stuff. They'd rather stick to levelling

[tiny oar]

they dont force people out of nowhere

they need seasonal character for balance purpose cause the normal characters are too powerful and they cant keep up

when you play the new season with a full build full expertise full watch, you destroy everything compared to a casual guy that doesnt even know expertise exist, has a bad build cause they dont farm much, and have like 100lvl on watch, and they will struggle

[frosty wadi]

I personally believe thats the problem in the first place, why create systems to make the player grind hours and hours to be stronger if the main content in the game left for them won’t let them use the gear they grinded for

Its not balancing if you just make people restart from nothing

[iron gust]

Didn't they announce that at best seasonal characters will be optional?
Asking players to grind and spend hundreds of hours optimizing and upgrading and then saying "well you're too powerful, start from zero" wasn't going to be very appealing to most of the player base

[low lily]

I agree with Lyfe tho, the problem is that our characters are too op so whatever they gonna give us we will Speedrun tru it easily, the truth is that all the gear would need a balanced nerf or all npc's would need a balanced buff. Also if the season will give us more op stuff it will be just boring run tru with our mains

I understand people are attached with they character like that reddit post "my character isn't just an agent but part of me" kind of thing 🤣🤣

[tiny oar]

they didnt want that, they made the current system as a band aid

it wasnt supposed to look like this

back then we were supposed to have world tiers

[tiny oar]

tbh the npc need a nerf too, they are scaled to hardcore player stuff rn

if you go in with a not optimized build you're in for a bad time

[iron gust]

The main promise of seasonal characters was/is the "curated" content that they never explained
Looking at the current seasonal structure I'm not convinced it was/is going to be great and worth the extra effect to level up and farm builds

[tiny oar]

why not ? everything you farm on seasonal character gives it to your main

it was explained you dont lose anything

but people just want their fav build they farmed

not bother make a enw one

tbh most players dont even play more than 1 or 2 builds

[iron gust]

At the end of the season which potentially would make it useless next to the "meta" builds

[tiny oar]

how so

you wont get lvl 1 gear

[fluid meadow]

95% of the gear will be useless through 1-39
Besides if you're looking to get gear i doubt that the seasonal character is going to be your first thought for farming

[iron gust]

Well for starters there's not a great track record of good sets being introduced
Secondly I don't think that any new gear will be exclusive to only the seasonal character, once the season is over you can farm it on your main if you missed it. If it's even worth farming that it

[tiny oar]

guys, u know you can scale it right ?

if you drop something from a new brand on seasonal character, whats stopping the devs from saying you will get it max lvl on your main

[fluid meadow]

That sounds very convoluted.

Imagine a gray level 2 or 3 pumped to 40

[low lily]

Seasons could have season tied gear also tho

[fluid meadow]

What'll you do with that

[tiny oar]

i mean, at some point we gotta have more convoluted stuff than just "new target go farm some bounties and cp"

the current state of seasons is pretty empty, we need new stuff

[iron gust]

They don't have the resources for that

[tiny oar]

they dont have the ressources for anything

so season 2 is the best they could do

[low lily]

🤣

[fluid meadow]

I'd expect the same slop to be delivered. I just hope the exotics are worth it this time around

[tiny oar]

you could give them a chance

not saying it will be incredible or exceptionnal

but like it can just be good enough

[fluid meadow]

They've teased us with 2 mainly pvp focused exotics but they don't perform

[iron gust]

I think most will wait and see what comes of it, but no one has really high hopes

[fluid meadow]

Also the bigger tease is the fact you can reroll the acosta knees.
I just really want them to pull that move to all the exotic armor pieces

They did it with the weapons.
Wouldn't be as hard to do it to the armor too

[tiny oar]

balance is a big problem already

you cant ask for the moon and then be surprised when its not working as expected

and then blame the devs for poor balance

[iron gust]

You can lol, look at determined

[tiny oar]

that one talent

they have 100s

imagine balancing that

[iron gust]

That's been like that for how long?

[tiny oar]

?

idk man, you're asking too much without being realistic

they cant make everything

[iron gust]

How long has determined been busted? This isn't a one season thing they messed something up. I don't think it's unrealistic to change it when they're changing floor 100 doors

[tiny oar]

man

you're focusing on 1 talent when everything is unbalanced

they cant just focus on 1 thing and ignore the rest

[iron gust]

Or all of a sudden removing yaahl from the clan vendor pool

[tiny oar]

ok you're not listening, im out

[iron gust]

Yes I'm sure making determined work as the perfect version works is such a huge distraction
And you're talking about unbalance and it's the most unbalanced thing in the game 🤣

[worthy onyx]

Determined just needs to be fixed, it's not even a balance change, it shouldn't proc the way it does
It's literally a bug

[real creek]

It's totally balanced to get 1 headshot and then be rewarded by shooting anywhere in the body for near infinite hits.... /s

[torpid tendon]

Finally I got my the courier with haste/status... This might be the most expensive item I've ever crafted after the dttooc oreo 💀

I probably had to reroll ouro like 30 times or so

[real creek]

Should have just farmed countdown for habs, you get tons of them and maybe the unicorn vigi HSD/WH while your at it.

[torpid tendon]

I've been trying to get a backbone with chc/chd for ages now. Since I've got the materials I decided to just craft the courier.... It's the same thing yk.

Its super annoying to farm for the 2 correct minor attributes.

[real creek]

idk I get them all the time when farming habs. I've got a few in the stash and I've given away/deconstructed a bunch.

[torpid tendon]

This game hates me.

[real creek]

LOL

I probably just play a ton more.

[torpid tendon]

I doubt you do lol.

I shouldn't have said it that way. Sorry it was rude.

[real creek]

lol I don't worry about that stuff.

[torpid tendon]

But I mean, I play div 2 almost everyday like 4 hours or so. On weekends I play all the day long.

[real creek]

idk I'm only at like 2.7k hours but I advance and farm harder than most.

[torpid tendon]

Well, that's a lot, yes. Last time I saw it I was with 640h or so.

[real creek]

It's pretty easy to look yourself up on tracker.gg if you wanna see some stats.

[tiny oar]

isnt your playtime aviable on ubi ?

or steam

[torpid tendon]

Some stats are missing there

What about the AR kills? I can only see smg, shotgun and rifle kills

Not mmr*.

[umbral hearth]

i love it when game mechanics just dont work

fragile armor bugged

i dont need armor anyways i guess 🤷‍♂️

[full zinc]

Armor is overrated

[unique bramble]

Health build supremacy

[umbral hearth]

i had to go down and revive to fix it

[plush jay]

usually does it

[umbral hearth]

in a heroic mission

[full zinc]

It's related to losing armor while under a status effect afaik. Use armor kit after the status is finished

[umbral hearth]

wasnt working even when not under status

[full zinc]

Once it breaks its stuck like that

[rain hedge]

yeah I was gonna say, if its bug you have to go down, for me its usually random when it breaks

[umbral hearth]

lovely

[full zinc]

That directive really has the perfect name

[rain hedge]

death grips come in clutch

can’t break if you keep regenerating on kills

[timber hatch]

Death gripes really aren't worth losing a minor attribute and brandsets bonus

[rain hedge]

eh, when you’re running determined and mostly all headshot + red gears, you sorta just stop caring about anything else

[undone timber]

regular palisade gloves fit the bill better

[rain hedge]

just trying to do anything at this rate while I wait for the next manhunt mission

i do wish we had the same or more apparel customization as we did in the division 1

[umbral hearth]

ive got a bunch of stuff to catch up on

i just got oreo yesterday, loving it so much

[midnight salmon]

a

[tiny oar]

you can get thoses stats ingame tho ?

i just went to see leaderboard on current league and lmao why are they still not banned

2 or 3min for some missions is insane

[real creek]

I mean not all those times are cheaters/hackers. You can do some of them in 3 minutes.

[real creek]

How check stats when at work?

[small spear]

b

[umbral hearth]

c

[tiny oar]

yeah i know you can speedrun, i do it too, but still, i dont understand how thoses guys arent banned

eac is a joke really

i'd take vanguard anyday to have less cheaters

[rain hedge]

didn’t eac have like a breach one time?

[tiny oar]

i mean even outside breachers, all their games are filled with cheaters

look apex for example

[iron gust]

In game pop up, resident evil apparel events for sale until August 1st, and says the outfits will leave the store permanently after that. Guess the licensing agreement with Capcom won't be renewed

[tiny oar]

they arent great anyway

they really are basic skins

[umbral hearth]

i really had high hopes for the hunk skin, but it just looks so bland for some reason

[rain hedge]

i guess the best thing out of it is the mask you get from completing it

[untold arrow]

Hello I want to ask that I don't have the dlc can I still have fun in game ? ( New York DLC )

[kind veldt]

HUNK skin is the greatest, not sure what you guys talking about

[frosty wadi]

Its okay, its cool in the context of RE games but in a game where you can wear gear that arguably looks better it loses its charm

[umbral hearth]

since the latest update, you have access to the majority of the endgame, so yes

however, the dlc is on sale for relatively cheap alllll the time

think you can get it and the base game for like $20 on xbox right now

[tiny oar]

yeah, but you'll be limited, dlc is really good and lot of content is behind it

[umbral hearth]

actually, im pretty sure you’re not even able to buy the game separate of the dlc anymore from what i was seeing on the store yesterday

gamestop has the expansion for $7.50 rn lol

[rain hedge]

yeah the game now has WONY included

[small spear]

even if you do only have the base game, most of the game is unlocked, but the wony-only skills are locked, and some bugs do happen if you only have base game that are fixed after you complete wony

[umbral hearth]

wony is just so worth it imo, i couldn’t imagine the game without it, but yes, you could still enjoy the game

[iron gust]

They level 40 without running warlords is still busted
You get a level up animation after the first encounter at city hall lol

[tiny oar]

how does expertise experience works ? if i hold the gun and kill enemies i get more xp or missions give more xp ?

[tender wave]

only enemy kill xp counts, not mission/activity completion xp.

[tiny oar]

and holstered ?

difficulty matter too ?

[lunar bramble]

how to not get hit by the emp jammers at pentco fairview power plant?

[lunar hare]

use cover/vault to avoid emp damage

[lunar bramble]

thanks that actually works

[worthy fable]

hello all ... am pretty new here

looking for a partner to coop with in the division 2

[kind veldt]

it's per kill, elites and veterans give more i think, holstered get a bit less, gear pieces get less than weapons but get for each piece equipped so gear sets by having 4 pieces level up faster than weapons, skills just need to be equipped, specialization weapons have drasticly lower xp gain i think

[tiny oar]

yeah spec weapon i understand

but nice to know, i'll just get some farm going

to get all thoses named weapons and gear to lvl up

especially the dz exclusives

[real creek]

You just need to work at it slowly, three ways to increase ranks on items, use the item and get kill xp(you don't need to actually use it just have it equipped), donate an item gain xp, or donate resources to gain xp.

Some ez things you should do is donate resources that are near cap or at cap. If you look and you have 9999 of a resource donate some away cause it's wasted resources to sit at cap. You should also visit the vendors weekly and buy named items and donate them.

[kind veldt]

honestly justs grind passively and you will get and donate mats for the hard to get stuff or that you dont care

like some firefly skill variations, bad exotics and stuff that getting copies are a pain

[umbral hearth]

yeaaa because you will not find me trying to find a use for rugged gauntlets, rather just sacrifice materials for that one

[real creek]

Yeah slow and diligent is the best way to go, I know some people who rush it and hit max expertise before 2k SHD then all they do is cry about not having mats and exo comps to utilize it.

[kind veldt]

They should just have changed the talent that gives you additional stats based on the weapons you have equipped

[umbral hearth]

is there a good way to get SHD levels besides just additional characters?

[kind veldt]

i know it's going sound stupid, but just playing the game

[umbral hearth]

everytime i pull rugged or mosquito from a cache, i die a little more inside

ill get you one day iron lung

[tiny oar]

yeah i get it, but im low on ressources sadly so i need to deconstruct a lot

[umbral hearth]

alright gotcha

[kind veldt]

it's more of an advice of dont try to burn out just grinding numbers endlessly

[umbral hearth]

i really want to put together a good backfire build

[umbral hearth]

oh im no where near burnout yet

still have so much to do

[real creek]

Yeah backfire just needs a rework. The problem is that in order for it to be good solo you need to be haz pro and giving up stats to become haz pro means you could just use any SMG on a normal build and out DPS it easy. If you do end up on a team with a healer you can do similar or a bit more DPS if you don't build haz pro but you've gotta stack it up to get there so it's only better if you snap shot the DPS it does at full stacks and go "see it's more damage than x".

[kind veldt]

i mean it would be funny if ridgway counted yourself as bleed target for the heal

[umbral hearth]

it seems like it could have so much potential

maybe change the status effect applied?

[kind veldt]

most popular suggestion i see being thrown around is to add armor on kill if you are bleeding or being able to lessen effect with kills similar to EB having stacking effects that lets you negate the damage

[umbral hearth]

ooooh yea

[umbral hearth]

some kind of synergy with ridgeways could be cool too

like shocker punch and elmos

[umbral hearth]

had a friend in countdown yesterday running this with a cavalier build…never laughed at something in this game so hard

he’d just run straight at the hunters and smack them

[tiny oar]

you're not supposed to do countdown solo

[tiny oar]

there is a good hazpro build with backfire that deal massive amount of damage

the pb of backfire, is that it takes forever to stack, and usually fight is over at that point

and you lost stacks super fast so you cant keep them betwen fights

unlike striker which keep lots of stacks

[lunar hare]

Who said that? He just mentioned his friend running towards Hunters and smacking them the F out

[tiny oar]

someone else deleted their message

[kind veldt]

Guy asking for advicr as solo player

Best i can give is dont got to dz

[full zinc]

Grand Washington Hotel is invaded this week.
Perfect week to start the Nemesis project, or get that blueprint you been waiting for.

After you get the Tidal Basin piece , change mode for District Union Arena back to invaded and complete again for another piece. with 2 pieces in hand set GWH back to invaded and the blueprint will drop. Nemesis can be farmed from MMR TL after that regardless of project completion.

[lime sand]

Anyone know where to get gila guard pointman? I need it for my countdown tank/semi healer build

[spare cove]

Select Gila Guard in targeted loot for Countdown and farm Countdown.

[lime sand]

yep I’ve tried that, no luck. I remember it being in one of the vendors a year back or so. Is this the only way to obtain it at the moment?

[spare cove]

Yes. There's also the vendors that reset weekly, but that's RNG as heck and who knows if they'll see the Pointman roll that you want

[kind veldt]

hunters at countdown drop named items of selected brand

so they will drop pointman pretty fast

[proud tartan]

When’s the next kenway college expedition

[lime sand]

okay okay

[spare cove]

August 6th, when Leto Trial unlocks

[proud tartan]

Ok

[ebon steeple]

Wtf instead of bringing back the re apparel event it's getting removed and u have to buy it or never get it

Why does Ubisoft suck at retaining collabs

[kind dagger]

Ubisoft sucks in general

[slender bloom]

Dude where’s bros stream

He said his stream would be at 12:30 it’s almost 12:40 💀

[lunar hare]

who are you referring/talking to?

[slender bloom]

Rougegolds stream

[fluid meadow]

Doesn't he have his own discord server?

Could have some luck there if you're asking about his stream

[slender bloom]

Thx bro

[olive charm]

yo does anyone wanna groupd in darkzone with me

that has a mic

[slender bloom]

Probably not

It’s late and I suck and don’t have a mic

[lunar hare]

They're on pc.

[slender bloom]

And that to

[azure lintel]

Does the "fox's prayer" and the "contractor's gloves" bonus damage from "dmg out of cover" and ""damage to armor" still apply to all weapons or only their respective gear? like rifle and LMG only?

[fluid meadow]

No it applies to every weapon

You can see it in the stats section

At least the damage to armor one

[plush idol]

all weapon

[azure lintel]

Thank you just making sure, i appreciate the help!

[stray oyster]

Anyone around to help me kill basilisk armor first for the gunner spec

[tidal aspen]

Glad they never fixed the "random guy runs up and one-shots you" issue in the four years since I last played this game...

[timber hatch]

Are you talking pve or pvp?

[frosty wadi]

Y’all don’t know how license deals work?

They ran up on the license 100%

They most likely don’t feel like renewing the license

This happened with ghost recon twice and it hurt more there because it was actual content not just cosmetics

[tiny oar]

oh god, named items are a pain to expertise

[tender wave]

Wait until they're on sale, buy 20, donate them all

[tiny oar]

yeah, but named dz exclusive are gonna be a pain

[spare cove]

I'd reckon they decided to not renew the licensing

[tender wave]

Use materials, or equip a bunch of them and run Normal difficulty stuff to level them manually, or farm the blueprints from descent and craft some to donate.
It'll be quite tedious whichever way you choose, but expertise is intended to be a long term grind.

[tiny oar]

i dont mind long term grind, i mind very much when its not fun or boring

but yeah, its gonna be a pain

im lacking too much ressources right now to lvl them this way

and they are way too much garbage to do missions with them

[tender wave]

Well, forget about them and long term grind your shd level, once you've got a few thousand scavenging points you can just run watch mules to get the materials to donate

[tiny oar]

yeah i know, still tedious and boring

[kind veldt]

expertise is a passive thing, no rush

[tiny oar]

not really a passive thing when you cant drop the item xd

[undone timber]

its something you grind for passively while actively farming for gear and stuff

just donate junk for now

[tiny oar]

i cant donate the named items as junk, they are dz exclusive thats the issue

[undone timber]

look out for them in the countdown vendor and bulk buy

best way of doing it

[tiny oar]

yeah, but its pretty rare

[undone timber]

its fairly common tbh there's usually at least one

just depends on the one

[kind veldt]

dont think you can get stuff like claws out on countdown

you could gamble with namde caches

[tiny oar]

yeah but again, that would requires hundreds of caches if not more

[kind veldt]

you could just slap on item in your build and do something for a while like i do

[undone timber]

not caches

the item itself

the vendor sells unlimited copies of select named items every week

including DZ stuff

or yeah just put dud pieces on normal builds

[full zinc]

Yup, only 30shd => cash to buy 20 named items, compared to 227-300shd in material costs for mat donations.
Regular weapons bought like this to proficient is even less shd per 20

[tiny oar]

for dz that require a lot of dz farm, and i cant do that

[undone timber]

the countdown vendor takes cd requisitions not DZ credits

[tiny oar]

some items are only dz not cd

[kind veldt]

he can sell them in the weekly reset

but RNG if it pops up or not

[real creek]

The countdown vender will sell a DZ item pretty much every week that you can buy. It's not worth buying them to donate imo but the named caches can have DZ items and are worth.

[kind veldt]

there was a big deal that a month after countdown there was rock and roll for sale

[real creek]

There was also a gift recently.

[tiny oar]

do kills from teams help lvl up your gear ?

or only yours

[kind veldt]

i think they help

[small spear]

they do

they don't even have to be kills either. them dying or despawning for one reason or another will give you kill xp

so say a hyena engineer deploys his turret and then he dies, if you don't touch the turret, when it dies after some time you get the kill xp

[full zinc]

Dz items regularly go on sale at cd vendor

[frosty wadi]

All named items can drop in named caches

[tiny oar]

yeah but the chances are so low its insane, so to get 20 of them is impossible

[inner elbow]

Can't get Adrestia

[real creek]

I mean that's super easy to get...

[inner elbow]

But not from cache

[real creek]

Seems like you are trying to make a point just to be that guy.

[tiny oar]

i spent 2 mil in total to get items to farm expertise lmao

im poor now

[real creek]

Couple watch points away from being rich tho.

[half laurel]

shocking amount of people that dont know when to shoot flair in Countdown.. They Arrive at the extraction and just flair up

[tiny oar]

dont have anything left :(

tho i bought already the weapons i need so i should be good for now

well at least thoses in rotation for now

[torpid tendon]

Wait, there ain't any lengmo blueprints.... Then wth are the lengmo materials used for?

[real creek]

You can always get more character slots filled up. Your SHD level is shared across all characters and increases regardless of character played on(hardcore is separate). This way you could get extra scavenging points and use those on credits the next time, just keep in mind credits are character locked.

[tiny oar]

yeah i know but im low lvl shd, its not worth it yet

[real creek]

It's worth it to have 4 characters, not to delete and re level them.

[tiny oar]

not if you're low shd

[real creek]

Tell me the down sides of having 4 characters.

[tiny oar]

the time you take to lvl them to 40

[small spear]

did they give adrestia blueprint from descent at one point? or no

[small spear]

it's always worth, because you're leveling them sooner or later

[real creek]

Time you'll spend regardless. With a carry it's under and hour easy.

[tiny oar]

yeah i know but i dont have a carry, and i'd rather farm my main for shd level + expertise for now

i can lvl them later

[real creek]

Well rip weekly dono projects, having extra scav points, more raid/incursion keys.

[tiny oar]

lmao

dude i dont even do raids

i did incursion like 3 times total

[real creek]

Well it's not hard to.

[tiny oar]

maybe for you

for me thats something else, i cant game for extended periods

[real creek]

You are in 2 very popular LFG servers. DH is 20-30 minutes, IH is 30-50 minutes, incursion is 10-15 minutes.

[tiny oar]

dh isnt 20/30min for me

last time i did it it took more than 2h

[small spear]

then you need to find the right people...

[tiny oar]

easier said than done xd

[small spear]

either that or that raid just took on too many ftcs

the ones who run frequently are the ones who you can trust

look in the lfg chats and see the frequent people

[unique bramble]

Like the GCrock server

[small spear]

but anyways at least for incursion you got many people here who can run with

10mins each time

[real creek]

Whoa there, you need to do these with some other people to curb your expectations.

[tiny oar]

lol last incursion was the last for me, i got ouro im not doing it again

we took like 1h to finish it

[real creek]

yikes

[small spear]

i ran with many people but turns out most of them carry lfgs so i've been playing dps 2

[real creek]

I wanna see you run healer yo.

[small spear]

🗿

i'd rather run cc in legendary

[tiny oar]

we got a guy ragequitting at the end cause we didnt kill the drone in time (i was healer lol)

[kind veldt]

yeah asking for people to carry me on discord did take roughly 30min for a clear

tho i was being hard carried since only had DPS build and not doing mechacnis

[tiny oar]

but i know im not the perfect player, i cant game for long, im not experience, so obviously raids arent really for me

life was better when i was young and i could game all day long

[real creek]

You ever need a clear just let me know.

[small spear]

at least if you need weekly legendaries i'm happy to carry, have been doing it for years

[tiny oar]

never done a legendary so far

i think i tried to see what it would be like once and got oneshot instantly xd

[small spear]

legendary is no mechanics, just damage, and 1 person can carry

[tiny oar]

well if you wanna do this one day hit me up

i can heal you good

[small spear]

what's your tz

[tiny oar]

tz?

[small spear]

time zone

[kind dagger]

🗿 I haven’t played this game since the Incursion first came out. I have no idea if there’s any new metas

[tiny oar]

europe

[small spear]

so around this time tomorrow are you free?

[tiny oar]

sure

[small spear]

er, 2 hours later than this time tomorrow*

but it'll be fun, just follow my instructions

[tiny oar]

np

[steel pier]

Ok kids, who unplugged the server?

[frosty wadi]

The parrot running the servers

[unique bramble]

The janitor

[full zinc]

Why do you think this is such a low chance to get a dz exclusive from a named cache?
Dz and non dz named have the same chance to drop from named caches.

Although I wouldn't suggest farming 20 items from caches to donate to expertise ...you would just buy up 20x of an item that's on sale.

[real creek]

Yeah caches just give you the option to get an item(dz items are typically harder to come by) and run it to gain kill xp, it's all options in the end.

[dusty cypress]

When will tu21.2 come out i need to upgrade my bench😭

[spare cove]

No idea

[tiny oar]

its not that there is low chance to get dz exclusive, its just there is too many items in the loot pool so in the end you will just struggle to have them

[real creek]

I feel like newer players think this way. There really aren't too many items and descents blueprints as well as buying named caches put everything in your hands pretty easy.

[worthy onyx]

Yea I've gotten almost everything in the dz through named caches

[real creek]

Why you no carry me thru zoo?

[small spear]

me too

[supple niche]

It is known in which quarter or approximately when the Brooklyn DLC will be released

[tiny oar]

that would require descent to be good and not killing you over bullshit xd

[kind veldt]

2025

[real creek]

idm descent but I just don't play it cause most people I know aren't down for it. Also if they do a run they wanna do 3-4 hours as it's a better pay off. idk I might start doing nem runs at 20 minutes just to get some caches.

[kind veldt]

meant to be season 3, we are currently in middle of season 1 and we are getting season 2 with the large reworks next also this year, so expansion is for next year

[tiny oar]

i mean its not just that its bad, its so poorly balanced, i think i beat the nemesis once cause it bugged out

i keep dying to bullshit

[umbral hearth]

got nemesis to drop from a cache, and now im actively working on a hotshot build lol

[lunar hare]

You'll be cutting butter in no-time

[umbral hearth]

watched that clip you sent me finally, awesome

[inner elbow]

Never did

[small spear]

good

[full zinc]

Same chance as any other named item

You can increase your chances by purchasing more caches... or you can do what I do and sacrifice to the great one .

🔥😈🔥

[small plume]

Zamn, man, August 1st they'll remove the Resident Evil outfits.

[azure lintel]

maybe they can replace it with better outfits

[small plume]

What is this "confusion" status again?

Oh, it's the normal stun, right.

[small spear]

yeah, disorient, daze, confuse

idk why they don't use 1 name but yeah

[umbral hearth]

i just donated all of my resources on accident.

[small plume]

For a moment, I thought on Final Fantasy's version of "confuse", which makes allies to attack each other.

[umbral hearth]

i have 116 steel, 138 ceramics, 81 polycarb, 11 electronics, and 17 carbon fiber

and 1410 titanium and 4978 printer filament

i meant to only donate one 😭

[tiny oar]

To what ?

[umbral hearth]

expertise

[tiny oar]

Lmao

[small plume]

RIP

[umbral hearth]

ive been farming carbon fiber for so long and just lost it all

[small plume]

I'd delete this character and create another one, honestly.

[tiny oar]

Well rip you

[umbral hearth]

genuinely soul crushing

[tiny oar]

What lvl are you ?

[umbral hearth]

thats all my resources from both my current character AND my last character

it didnt even help me much

309

[tiny oar]

Well that's not great but you didn't lose THAT much

You will farm that back

[umbral hearth]

this is awful

[tiny oar]

Yeah for now, but ressources come and go dw

[umbral hearth]

i had already been running low

[tiny oar]

Youll learn soon what you lost is a fraction of what's needed

Like really small fraction

[umbral hearth]

well, i need resource farm recommendations now

countdown does okay but its not great

[tiny oar]

I think in the last 3 week I spent like 20k Electronics alone

And not for expertise

[umbral hearth]

gonna use a bunch of ge points to get caches for some

[tiny oar]

Yeah ge is nice for that

Just play the game, ressources will come naturally

[small plume]

Is 93R the worst sidearm of the game?

Thing deals no damage.

[tiny oar]

I never use side arm lol

Unless specific talent from exotics

[proper spindle]

@small spear @warm minnow So I guess we do an incursion tomorrow then?

[small plume]

Nah, Finisher is pretty good, Stake (?) is pretty good in certain situations in skill builds

and Determined is super handy with high damaging sidearms.

[kind veldt]

mosquito might be worst than 93r

[small plume]

True, that exotic is useless.

[kind veldt]

93r at least is not talent locked

[small plume]

I have 1 with Finisher

But Idk, the pistol deals no damage.
The named one from the Sharpshooter, at least.

[kind veldt]

yeah in general the damage is bad

but you can mod it and just slap a high magazine size if you want it

[small plume]

I think I'll just deconstruct it.

I like it's design, but things must work.

[proper spindle]

It's god awful.

[kind veldt]

glock 18 when? please releast it from it's prison in the game files

[small plume]

I need an original X-45 with Finisher or DTTOOC.

To finish my Leon S. Kennedy build.

[small spear]

yeah

[proper spindle]

3 pm est as for polices request

[kind veldt]

the fact that the skin didnt even go to the right always rustly my jimmies deep inside

[proper spindle]

I'ma slack off then.

[small plume]

My gangster build is so cool.
I love Thompson.

[small spear]

sure

[proper spindle]

aight, my build works as it is.

I should work on other stuff like healing

[umbral hearth]

regulus is the only one ive seen to really be useful. some people will take the tdi kard for the skill tier and put sledgehammer on it, but honestly i feel like its a waste of time trying to get all of that to work

like sidearm->grenade->main weapon seems to take up too much time for a minor buff

[tiny oar]

Yeah clearly

Also you can have sledge Hammer on lefty

[inner cedar]

What happened to the div 1 channel?

[spare cove]

You need to get a role to access it. You can find it in id:customize

[umbral hearth]

and its better there

[full zinc]

depends. you only have to be on the sledge hammer weapon when the grenade pops, so you can throw grenade, swap for the pop, then back to mowing shit down. if you use survivalist, the incendiary nade can keep proccing sledge as long as its burning. also just requires a split second swap to reproc

[azure lintel]

Was running Pentagon with event on, heroic 5 directives (not sure if any of those make a difference). The quadcopter didn't retreat in the catwalk encounter, so i killed it. got loot. the quadcopter appeared again in the final encounter, and never retreated, i killed it again. first time thats ever happened. has that... been a thing you could do this whole time?

[spare cove]

Yeah, if you managed to kill a quadcopter during the catwalk encounter, another will spawn in the final encounter

[kind veldt]

i could swear you would skip it

[azure lintel]

@spare cove wild!

i kind of dont like pentagon but its fun to shoot down two quadcopters

[proper spindle]

I'm stupid.

I mean there's gotta be at least three exceptions to rule of pistols being useless

[warm minnow]

Regulus

[proper spindle]

Two more

[worthy onyx]

Busy little bee

[proper spindle]

I mean

[worthy onyx]

Orbit

[proper spindle]

Oh yeah that one

[worthy onyx]

The named kard

[proper spindle]

stated earlier that it takes up a lot for a minor buff, for some reason

[worthy onyx]

tdi is useful if you are all red and want to rez a teammate without burning your own charge

Also has very high dps for a pistol

[proper spindle]

That's on my bucket list now, thank you.

[worthy onyx]

Realistically it's mostly just orbit, regulus, blb that would get used, kard is more of a utility in case

Liberty is also pretty good for pistol dps builds

[proper spindle]

I don't need more dps out of a pistol

Like you already have 2 guns, how do you waste that much ammo.

Armor? ACS with fast hands
Rest? Elmo's atm, then hopefully ouroboros once I get it

[worthy onyx]

I'll be that person and point out what has been pointed out by probably countless others even though nobody asked, elmo still will be better in general than oro

[proper spindle]

I still want variety

but yeag.

• it's funni

[worthy onyx]

You should try ctar

It's secretly op

[proper spindle]

Oh I know.

But I have yet to find 40 one.

• comfortable with Elmo's atm till I decide to do wacky experiments

-# and inevitably give up.

I really should drag my friend into one of the raids after I get familiar with them.

[torpid tendon]

Not a pistol but a sidearm, I keep a double barrel shotgun with in sync. Liberty is also pretty good.

[opal radish]

Nope