td2-build-advice

[solar sable]

in the Retal tab in your Map it will show the % you've made up

[fervent cargo]

and guessing I have to defeat the control points within a giving time period and can’t shut down game and/or fast travel to anorher region (i.e. like if I am in Warlords, can’t fast travel back to DC)

Thanks man. I ask these cuz I start my new job next weekend so the time I have now is nothing like the time I will have. I won’t be able to chill and talk and game like this

Gaming will be limited until I get settled in so I will have to utilize time wisely is why I ask all these questions

I won’t get hours to game every week 🙂

[solar sable]

holy you got that first try lol

[fervent cargo]

Dies that mean there is time frame to initiate the retaliation as well?

[solar sable]

5 hours

[fervent cargo]

Basically one sitting to do it all

Retaliate and then reclaim

[solar sable]

5 hours to initiate and 15 minutes when started, you get bonus time per kill and per capture

[fervent cargo]

Nice to know….you don’t have to tell me what, but is there any special items you can or just targe loot?

You don’t earn anything you can’t get any other way? Anything from season pass or whatever

[solar sable]

if you lose or time's up you lose agitation and have to get it up again

[solar sable]

you can select TL with Retals yeah, it is shared between Countdown, Summit and this

[fervent cargo]

In terms of loot or items or bonuses or anything, is there anything exclusive behind finishing a retaliation quest ??

So if I have target loot set to Countdown…gonna be same for Retail?

[solar sable]

lots of resources and a random blueprint for completion of winning the retal

[fervent cargo]

That might be the time to target the gloves because I can set open world target loot as well right?

[solar sable]

nope, just those I listed can be manually selected

[fervent cargo]

That’s right you did say that

So save to say, would definitely be collecting a lot of mittens from start to finish

and if none are red when they drop, the entire process failed me??

[solar sable]

they are guaranteed to be enemy controlled dw

[fervent cargo]

Random: are all exotics have the same rarity?

DW?

[solar sable]

yeah

[solar sable]

short for dont worry lol

[fervent cargo]

What do you mean enemy controlled?

Sorry sometimes miss the context of something

[solar sable]

they are red, as you said

[fervent cargo]

I meant if none of the gloves that drop are red, the entire process failed me

I pick up all those gloves and none are red, that means I never came across them

Because I am guessing dark red is still the color for exotic drops?

[solar sable]

oh yeah sorry, it is not a guaranteed drop for exotics, it's all mere chance

[fervent cargo]

Sorry should have been more clear on that….i was just talking about it would be easy fir me because all I am looking for is a red drop

No totally I get that

One good thing is I won’t have to pick everything up like I did for Tipping Scales. No red just deconstruct the entire pile of loot

And then what did you suggest for 6th item? Or recommend?

Well I guess depends on what 4 pieces I choose

But any recommendations or suggestions??

[solar sable]

for chestpiece any:
The Sacrifice, Equalizer, Ceska Oblit/Glass Cannon

[fervent cargo]

and I can target loot chest piece for that

Ahh thanks for helping man. I appreciate it. Have a great night.

[solar sable]

brand set is highly recommended for this case

[fervent cargo]

Oh wait and the brand would be

[subtle bluff]

If you target you get all the brandsets....

So target UA or Ceska

[fervent cargo]

I got ya. Thanks a lot man

[solar sable]

Providence, Imminence Armaments and Ceska Vyroba respectively

[fervent cargo]

And then again just grinding for the piece and good loot rolls and going from there

[solar sable]

imminence LMAO

[subtle bluff]

It's farming it's may or not take some time.

[fervent cargo]

Oh yeah

[subtle bluff]

still don't see the point of IA..

[fervent cargo]

I know i aksed a lot of questions and seem to think it’s gonna happen overnight but yeah, I know this stuff takes a long time

And even a long time doesn’t mean you’ll get what you wanted.

[solar sable]

some like perfect oblit

[fervent cargo]

Just took screenshots of last couple bits of our conversation to save those

Thanks again man and then when I get the pieces, then I can equip them and then based on what I have exactly, that will determine which weapons to go with

Or is that pretty much a given already. I prefer using rifle or assault

Try to stay away from sniper or shotgun

[solar sable]

recommendations are Iron Lung, Bluescreen or an lmg with frenzy and CHC

[fervent cargo]

Well shotgun not so much. Prefer automatic close up

See that blue screen a lot tonite

Some people were taking about in the chat/command box

[subtle bluff]

Just don't stress it. You have to farm a bit. Farm it up plenty of things to get.

[fervent cargo]

Totally and because of you, not AS stressful

Still stressful just not as bad. So thank you

[subtle bluff]

There's a whole build hub with guides to a bunch of stuff.

[solar sable]

plenty of tasks... let's procrastinate! oh wait no I have already done that a lot last year

[subtle bluff]

If you haven't checked that out.

[solar sable]

don't procrastinate, children. It is bad.

[quartz herald]

Any builds that incorporate Regulus into em? current build for ref is in pic

and what are your thoughts on Memento and Overdogs, which would you think would work better with what moi is running

[shy willow]

Headhunter's fury

It's in the pinned spreadsheet

[meager fog]

Overdogs gives more DPS.

Memento gives Armour regen, damage and skill efficiency for 5 minutes

As well as bonus armour/damage and skill efficiency depending on your build for 10 seconds after each trophy.

It also gives an instant tier 3 shield and gives you 2 revive hive charges.

Its a very powerful piece of kit.

I would say to concentrate on getting rid of those yellow attributes on your armour first. They arent helping

[quartz herald]

yup, in the process of doing that, but also any specific way of getting memento? sounds like a blast

[meager fog]

Just target farm backpacks or get the crafting blueprint from retaliations

Your long term buff (1% damage, 0.1% regen and 1% skill efficiency) stacks up to 30 times and lasts for 5 minutes. This refreshes each time you pick up a kill trophy

Your short term buffs last for 10 seconds and give 5% damage per red core, 10% bonus armour per blue core and 5% skill efficiency per yellow core for 10 seconds.

Picking up another trophy stacks these bonuses however each one has its own timer the timer doesnt refresh.

For your build this means, each trophy you pick up gives 30% damage, 10% bonus armour and 5% skill efficiency.

For a total of 60% Weapon Damage increase

[quartz herald]

that sounds like a very bueno buff no?

and should work better than cayote's mask

coyote's*

[meager fog]

If I use memento I will normally add a blue core to the Strikers as this will boost your bonus armour to 20% per pick up and you regen 3% per second at max stacks so it keeps you alive very well.

Its not a good backpack for group play though

As well as a tier 4 shield

[quartz herald]

but what would be gud for group play then? since I doubt the mask is better than it no?

or you mean good for group play since I need to do the kills for the trophies to drop?

[subtle bluff]

you got it.

[honest helm]

Targeted Marksman in Countdown is probably my best bet at getting a Shroud correct? Needing it for one of my builds.

[cerulean smelt]

i didn't see anyone mention this, you kill stray animals in retaliations you lose seconds

[subtle bluff]

Forget the retal one Hyn?

[foggy imp]

I would love that combo. Just need to get the rock and roll to drop lol. Countdown name cache has not been too good

[meager fog]

Thats why its not good for group play.

Others will kill things which leaves your short term buffs not being used and will take far longer to get your long term buff up.

Mask will normally outperform it in a group and Overdogs will do better in group and solo for DPS

[quartz herald]

will have to recheck how to get overdogs still, the mask so far has been good for me but want a change of pace

[polar ibex]

What’s the fastest way I can reach lvl 1000?

[cerulean smelt]

currently? a lot of patience
you want to look for 3x or 5x xp events that comes each season

[polar ibex]

Ahh just got to wait for now then ?

[meager fog]

For the next 4/5 days you can grind the National Bond Bank mission (takes less than 3 minutes once you're good at it)

With heroic 4 directives gives 1/2 shd levels each completion.

Just turn the event off without leaving the mission after you finish.

This requires the year one pass

[polar ibex]

Ok, I’ll try it later on. Thanks

[meager fog]

Its the fastest (legitimate) xp farm in the game

But only works when a global event is running that you can turn on/off like Golden bullet.

If you leave the mission area, the mission will lock until weekly reset.

[polar ibex]

So I turn the event off at the end and can restart as normal?

[meager fog]

Turn off the event, and wait for the countdown to end.

You'll respawn back at the start.

DO NOT exit the mission

[molten agate]

is any high end LMG (not named) usable when talent is met right?

[meager fog]

M249, GR9, MK46, MG5, IWI Negev

[versed summit]

No. Some LMGs are really bad

[versed summit]

Classic m60 should be here. The Negev is kind of meh and GR-9 is still really just for frenzy

[meager fog]

They were just top of my head that are usable. Negev isnt terrible but its handling is a bit sqwiffy.

[versed summit]

Yeah

[shy willow]

Damn it's good now?

[magic pilot]

For tipping scales yes

[shy willow]

Ah yeah lower rof more time with stacks

[foggy imp]

My brother wanted to ask he’s using the Elmo with 101k weapon damage but got one to drop that’s 111k weapon damage. Is it worth dismantling the other one for the extra 10k damage?

[magic pilot]

3rd attribute is most important

[foggy imp]

He had it drop with damage to target out of cover but I wasn’t even sure if that 10k would make any difference

[magic pilot]

DtooC is the way to go

You can optimize the stats and it'll be the same dmg, dtooc doesn't show on that stat though

[foggy imp]

I told him that was the best attribute but I wasn’t sure that 10k extra weapon damage would even be noticeable

[magic pilot]

It will have the same dmg on the weapon overview screen when you optimize them both to max

[foggy imp]

Oh I didn’t know that. Always thought you could get a drop with a higher damage and maybe do 1-2% more at the same expertise.

[honest helm]

Anyone got a good Bullet King Build?

[foggy imp]

Always see people say bullet king super fun with tipping scales

[honest helm]

I was thinking that, equalizer, and Overdogs. But I don't know if that's a good idea.

[foggy imp]

Since you basically never have to reload with bullet king I see people use the tipping scale chest and salvo holster with overdog

[honest helm]

I'll give that a try

[foggy imp]

Not sure if that gun has crit chance as mods but could swap salvo for ceska if you need higher crit chance

As people said when they gave me advice you need 60% Crit chance with tipping scale since you get 350% crit damage

[shy willow]

There's setups for it in the pinned spreadsheet

[hazy steeple]

You can get the BP (blueprint) from Hyena Retaliations, or just any old TL (targeted loot).

[stone python]

Whats the best build for Pestilence LMG?

[solar sable]

CoCo, overdogs and ceska glass is my pick

[junior lagoon]

for solo play : is refactor or empress builds are better for skill builds?

[gloomy spruce]

Which skills?

[junior lagoon]

turret and drone

[polar ibex]

Where do you find the ceska glass, also can you find overdogs in countdown?

[solar sable]

ceska is the brand and glass is for Glass Cannon talent
Yes

[coral reef]

You play with that build in groups or solo? Can you give me a quick rundown of how you use it please, I tried it but them stacks seem to take forever to build

[solar sable]

CoCo is best used in groups and for solo not really... I use it solo by pre-stacking in the range

[subtle bluff]

You can solo it's you have to go lil fast to get the stacks to work.

[solar sable]

you can also use turret and drone to make those stacks quicker

[solar sable]

It's easy to get those stacks with turret and drone if solo, just make sure you are constantly turning them to the enemy and kill

[subtle bluff]

I think I can post this here...

@meager fog

[coral reef]

Sticky please

[stone python]

What do you think of Tipping scales for LMG buid

[meager fog]

I'm stealing it

[subtle bluff]

We have a guide in the build hub

[solar sable]

@stone python 👇

Oh shit I forgot to mention THAT in there

[tropic burrow]

Hi guys what's the best retaliation build? If I run mega dps I die fast if pfe my ttk is slow..

Solo*

[solar sable]

Learn how to position yourself and you shall become immortal with all red
I used to run OD Tinkerer for Heroic Retaliations, Strikers is also on the table, HB, HF...

[subtle bluff]

Look at you!

[stone python]

Thank you very much agent

[solar sable]

I've been making these to understand how they work without all the meth behind it

it's been quite useful

[copper yarrow]

One thing I do with tipping scales is get in cover and then use a rifle with lucky shot to build up stacks and then whip out my LMG, usually BS or IL or pesti

[copper yarrow]

Can anyone please point me towards this build hub

[solar sable]

but TS stacks are not hit-stacks, they are based on how much time you are firing

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages > Gear Sheet > Build Hub

[solar sable]

shooting the air also stacks TS

[copper yarrow]

Yes exactly that's why Lucky shot, so I can stay in cover and fire from the hip

If a shot lands then it's all good but even if I hit nothing I gain TS stacks and don't waste any bullets

[copper yarrow]

Thank you

[stone python]

Farmed tipping finally finished tinkering 🙂

man this build slaps lol

rerolled Iron Lung to ChC

[solar sable]

yup, as intended

[polar ibex]

How’d I get good traits on armour, do I just keep playing till a good one drops ?

[solar sable]

traits?

[polar ibex]

Sorry I meant the attributes like crit chance and that sort of stuff

[solar sable]

oh yeah, it's pure rng so it may take a while

it also depends on what type of core a brand/gearsets has set

[subtle bluff]

@solar sable how does this look to you?

[polar ibex]

Ahh ok I’ll keep trying lol

[solar sable]

like I'm in college
it's excellent

[coral reef]

Yep, Coco is a monster, I used it with PGC

[foggy imp]

I thought rate of fire was preferred on iron lung

[buoyant perch]

Tipping scale gains and keeps stack by firing so it synergizes with slow firing weapon where you can last longer. Striker/nego is different.

[subtle bluff]

@onyx sage he's ready to carry us!

[foggy imp]

Do you have one of those for coco

[solar sable]

@foggy imp not yet sadly, but it's this setup but Pesti and CoCo

[foggy imp]

Do you mainly use it for countdown and group? Heard it’s a pain to get stacks playing solo

[subtle bluff]

Build Hub

[solar sable]

yeah it is recommended more in groups, if you want to use it solo you have to prestack in the range and kill frequently

[foggy imp]

I’ll try making it and running countdown with it. Mostly what I play anyways

[subtle bluff]

Yea CoCo shoud be doable in CD but you won't feel amazing with it.

[hexed steppe]

at least it has 4 extra damage sources possible

[torpid valve]

Looks good mate, but im not the fan of the sacrifice
The 60% dmg taken litterally take me down under 3 second dude

[molten agate]

what would you upgrade/change from this?

[shy willow]

gotta work on minimising damage taken

[torpid valve]

Change the stoner 63 to gr9

[shy willow]

really good piece both for training and dps

[torpid valve]

this build can run well in legend
But not ideal for heroic cuz while u r stacking, hostile all ded tbh

[shy willow]

striker chest for ceska oblit or pgc then contractors for striker gloves

[molten agate]

that is so true, i can barely stack to half

[shy willow]

and then stoner for something faster like m249

[torpid valve]

Wait a second, i got sth to u

[molten agate]

gatta farm more LMG as well

[torpid valve]

Try this

U could change the kneepad to grupo to gain 13% crit damage

[molten agate]

wanted to take that kneepad but i got no alt for mask 🙁

[torpid valve]

Its fine mate

This build, technically can run for any content in game

Im not test it yet in legend

[molten agate]

what do you think of going 100 striker on my lmg build

i do play in groups but i still dont think enemy will last long in heroic

[torpid valve]

Keep the backpack, change the chestplate

100 is enough

Or u can try the OD with grupo mask, ceska bp with wicked talent

4 pieces of OD

[molten agate]

yea i got that one as rifle xd

fun supportive rifle build

something like this

[torpid valve]

Im playing striker so much that i got ptsd about its 30% wp handling
And rifle's handling really bad

[molten agate]

but UIC make ur aim like a laser, i got no talent on aiming btw

[foggy imp]

@solar sable takes a little getting the stacks used to but man does the damage really do some crazy numbers with coco

[torpid valve]

Yeah, same as the bullpup rifle

I dont remember its name, sorry

[hazy steeple]

Famous?

[torpid valve]

Nope, its high end weapon and,hmm
The MDR isn't it ??

[hazy steeple]

MDR is a rifle, that sounds about right.

[torpid valve]

Im still waiting for ubi to create some item or gear like the tipping scale
But for sniper, like 2 pieces of hasburg

[hazy steeple]

Like, stack building with an MMR?

[torpid valve]

Im still seeking for it
Since im new, now im about to get 7k lv and still not found it dude

[hazy steeple]

Remember that Rifles and MMR's are two different weapon types, and don't share buffs unless the set specifically mentions both of them.

[torpid valve]

Yeah

that gear likes, plus hsd and mmr dmg like hasburg but works like hotshot

And idk what the f im just talking abt

[gloomy spruce]

I am guessing you are thinking something like breaking point if it wasn't currently so lousy?

[cerulean smelt]

or aces and eights 😹

[gloomy spruce]

I wanted to use it with 1886, but honestly so many other builds do the job so much better.

[cerulean smelt]

right?! when i heard someone using it for rifles i'm like um it's an MMR set. didn't realize they altered to be a Rifle/MMR set at some point

[gloomy spruce]

Yeah. The thing is that 2 pc zoo, Fox's, Tinkerer, chainkiller, just do the job so much better.

Heck last season, I just threw on a liquid engineer and had free bonus armor per kill along with armor regen. It was great!

20m per 3rd+ headshot with a setup like that was my happy time.

[foggy imp]

Is there any other way to fix the coco bug besides taking off a piece of gear? Had it happen 3 times in one countdown run

[magic pilot]

It's only a visual bug so I wouldn't mind it too much

[molten agate]

what is even a coco bug

[subtle bluff]

Visual stacks

[meager fog]

It sometimes likes to pretend it isn't stacking

[molten agate]

at this point im thinking what can replace striker in dps build

[royal charm]

Hello,dmg build for a beginer?Something not to complicated 😄

[solar sable]

in terms of dmg, nothing, in terms of variety there are options

[solar sable]

@royal charm ^

[molten agate]

TS or striker for bullet king?

[solar sable]

hmmm, try with both, but Strikers it is

[royal charm]

Ill try thank you vm,onto strikers farm first

[molten agate]

best attribute for LMG, rof or CHC or DTA??

[solar sable]

CHC

either way running Bullet King will sacrifice dmg for not reloading

[strong cave]

For complete beginners I'd recommend a few blues on memento striker

At most maybe 2 or 3 striker pieces as blue

[solar sable]

4r/3b maximum I would say

[strong cave]

I'm a weirdo who runs 5 blue 2 reds

[solar sable]

ew

[strong cave]

It gets the job done and lets me fully play braindead 😂

[solar sable]

do you by any chance also like off meta builds?

[strong cave]

My off meta builds at least have logic behind them

And the math is triple checked by everyone other than me

[solar sable]

your inner voices don't count as everyone bro

[strong cave]

☹️

[subtle bluff]

3 Blue 2 Yellow 2 Red HB user here.

[solar sable]

sir

[strong cave]

Kiss the rainbow taste the rainbow like they say

Somebody convince me to record videos after work today on division 🙏

[solar sable]

I've been having fun trying legendary dua solo ||I almost rage quitted||

bad joke on dua leggo: I pretend I'll complete it and I ragequit

[strong cave]

DUA solo ain't bad. I've done it before. I mainly just camped with 2 blue strikers and Elmo's and used a healer drone

[solar sable]

I just can't pass garage lol

I try hard and don't intend to give up

[strong cave]

People knock blues but give it a shot if you haven't

[solar sable]

I'm allergic to blue

[strong cave]

My guy just humor me once 🙏 throw on a max of maybe 2 blue cores on your standard strikerdogs build

Hell, run the chest too, why not. It just works

[solar sable]

hmmm, alright alright, tomorrow I will

[strong cave]

Deal 👌🤝

The devs keep giving us free sources of power/damage. Running 100% red isn't necessarily the need for all scenarios. A good defense is a good offense for sure, but if you're struggling, our advice to newer players is always slap a few blues on. How have we forgotten that advice lol

[solar sable]

because... idk lmfao

honestly the all red path also kinda corrupts the advice part of ourselves

[strong cave]

😂 humor me once is all I ask. See if it changes anything. It's kept me alive many times

Yeah personally I love the most optimal builds don't get me wrong. But 99% of the time I don't even play "most optimal". I play what's efficient for my playstyle and my team

That's why I recommend different ideas but still based around optimal setups. It just works

[solar sable]

I postponed your shotgun build because of the deadeye event, was it called that?

anyways, I also gotta try it now that there's nothing that can affect it

[strong cave]

Yeah it was the deadeye event

I noticed right after it ended all the damage boosts it gave really fell off

Completely forgot the event was active and came back wondered why my guns hit like fart gun from despicable me..

Answer: event is no longer active

[primal cave]

hello guys returning player i was just wondering how do i get my hands on the overdog gloves currently ive been doing heyna retaliation for a couple of days now still no luck just wondering if i need to do something else first or should i keep powering on

[subtle bluff]

did you not get the blueprint at least?
It's all RNG

[primal cave]

no blueprint yet i guess i should keep going

[subtle bluff]

above..

[primal cave]

can i get the other blueprints from Retaliation to or?

[versed summit]

Yeah it drops a good amount of blueprints from each faction and their kill squads

[primal cave]

okay cool thanks guys!

[buoyant perch]

updated by V1tualzz

[molten agate]

can i use lexington with tinkerer?

[versed summit]

nope

[molten agate]

if i wanna use backfire, is striker with overdogs the ultimate dps build for it?

[grand girder]

haven't done the math but yes it definitely hits like a truck

I run a full red backfire striker build with palisade chestplate (glass cannon) and overdogs and all striker pieces have CHD on them, sits at like 58% chc and 168 CHD (I'll fact check in a second) but is a very playstyle oriented build

if you want easier gameplay with alot (but less) dps you can use memento + crusader shield for a tier 3 shield and maybe through in few bluecores depending on how squishy you feel

[molten agate]

thx gatta try that

[primal cave]

we did it ty guys!

[strong cave]

Let the dogs bark 🐶 🗣️

[woeful zodiac]

Who let the dogs out

[strong cave]

weenor

[foggy imp]

Anyone that has an all reds Lengmo build. How does it do in groups

[strong cave]

Decent but you'll want glass + Vigi

Glass can be on ceska piece or using sacrifice is okay too

[foggy imp]

Okay just been running coco till I get the pieces together

[torpid valve]

Tinkerer wont works on named and exotic weapon

[vernal wave]

Any good shroud overdogs advice ?

[foggy imp]

Finally got rate of fire on iron lung with TS 👌🏻

[foggy imp]

Gonna give that build a try finally @onyx sage

@onyx sage but just so I know are there any gesr builds that crit chance would be better on iron lung?

[onyx sage]

striker, nego

[dreamy valve]

5 blue? Rookie numbers

[subtle bluff]

The highest DPS build for BF is Striker, Salvo w/ either Overdogs or Bloody Knuckles. This cannot be used anywhere,

[stone python]

Saw this french streamer build, hmm interesting one ... Sadly I don't have BfB dlc for the exotic mask. He said it's better than strikers interm of sustained dps.

[solar sable]

that mask is not from Brooklyn

[stone python]

Really? Where can I get it?

[solar sable]

Potomac Center Climax Mission: The Manager
Guaranteed drop on Master difficulty

[stone python]

Thank you!

Tipping Scales have become my favorite among the gear sets

Now I know why the streamer was using that exotic mask. Tinkerer Mask (Exotic): Often used to apply the secondary weapon's talent (like Measured) to your primary LMG for even higher fire rates.

This is interesting

[subtle bluff]

tbh I always question someone thoughts when they're using TS chest.

[solar sable]

ts chest increases max stacks right?

[smoky latch]

Si

[solar sable]

hmmm, just like strikers then, situational

[versed summit]

Worse though because it doesn't increase the top end damage by much IIRC

[foggy imp]

Same here. Iron lung slaps with this build. So glad I got rid of bluescreen for this weapon

[stone python]

Did you reroll Iron Lung's secondary attribute to ChC?

[foggy imp]

No since it already has 10% crit chance I did rate of fire

[stone python]

10% ChC on the attachment?

[foggy imp]

Yeah it comes with it on the weapon

[stone python]

Nice!

[foggy imp]

Average said rof is only slightly better with TS but chc is better with striker

[quartz herald]

just got bullet king, thoughts?

[solar sable]

on TS you need to hit the 60% CHC cap

[foggy imp]

Im just going based on average since he ran rof on his iron lung on that YouTube video @meager fog posted on this page

[magic pilot]

Generally we go chc, for TS specifically rof is good. But you do need 60% chc

[foggy imp]

Yeah he said with TS rof is only slightly better

[solar sable]

fun but cannot compare to other lmgs

[foggy imp]

Coco was fun when it worked but I had the visual bug like 5 times so I’m not using it till they fix the set

[quartz herald]

so I should stick to iron lung then

[stone python]

Speaking of Iron Lung. This LMG slaps with Strikers

[quartz herald]

yup

[magic pilot]

Yea I would, or m60

[foggy imp]

Especially when they are on fire 🔥

[magic pilot]

MG5 is just so good rn

[foggy imp]

I was using the one from the winter event but the music got so annoying

[subtle bluff]

I cannot find a normal one for the life of me...

Uh... who made this...
Not TWD it's AWD.
BK is not the best weapon for TS. Since TS stacks also give weapon handling it can take normal reloads faster...

[astral kraken]

ai probably

[onyx sage]

made by mr. Adam Irving

friends with Lindsay Lohan's Mother

[gloomy spruce]

So Artificial Inteligence and Large Language Models... got it

[foggy imp]

Does total damage matter on exotics like if I get a marginally better rolled one with a higher total damage is it worth upgrading

[onyx sage]

if it has the correct stat it is worth upgrading

[foggy imp]

Ok sweet. The pesti I got is 110 and I got a 130 total damage to drop

[restive python]

What should i use in an OD bleed build if i don't want to use Tinkerer

[hexed steppe]

Sadist+killer , +measured, +pressure point

[restive python]

I mean exotic item

[hexed steppe]

Oh shit, mb

Overdogs

[uncut sluice]

what’s a good dz build yall have found success with

[lost wren]

what if you don't want an exotic option for the gloves, or is it really just od and bloody knuckles

[lost wren]

for farming or pvp?

[subtle bluff]

If you're asking for the most DPS why wouldn't you use either?

[lost wren]

consistency

i know od and bk are bis for dps but i was asking about more consistent options

[solar sable]

bloody knuckles are just a recommendation but as Chow said, they cannot be used anywhere

[subtle bluff]

Very specific question with very specific answer.

[magic pilot]

Tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

at that rate then don't use BF or Strikers Chest.

[lost wren]

ah just go normal striker then

fair enough ig

[silent storm]

Bloody Knuckles new?

[lost wren]

no

[magic pilot]

You can use backfire without an exo

[lost wren]

what would that be

[uncut sluice]

more so pvp

[lost wren]

there's a recommended pvp builds list pinned in #td2-pvp-discussions if you're interested

[magic pilot]

#td2-pvp-discussions message

[uncut sluice]

ah alr i was looking for ssome like that but couldnt find it thank you

[lost wren]

or not pinned

[magic pilot]

There's more in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X87BwJv-I_58WAQh_bSDXRKNLBHTOi9Wtt4Bs6Pv7bY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[uncut sluice]

alr thank you very much

[half cedar]

Probablt Overdogs your best bet here.

Blacklister if you know where to take cover and get the aggro off you from the marked enemy

[magic pilot]

Overdogs yea, it's just too good

[silent storm]

This is a fun build without exotic gloves

[strong cave]

Swap holster to Zwi and run ODogs. Swap main rifle to Ravenous. Damage galore 💯

[silent storm]

I don't have Ravenous, and I don't want to use OvD because I hate having to swap them everytime I swap characters

[strong cave]

Mans only has 1 set 😔

[silent storm]

They are maxed though so I have that going for me

[strong cave]

Somebody get this guy another set

I e-beg 🙏

[shy willow]

Bloodsucker isn't doing jack for you on a glass cannon setup let alone all red

[magic pilot]

I'd actually drop ceska and keep unit, run overdogs and Zwia holster

[thick meteor]

Is optimist or breadbasket good on the stackbroker?

[subtle bluff]

Stack Broke does less dmg than ACS12 if that helps with your choice.

[thick meteor]

Ah... well, I guess I will be praying for an acs 12

[gusty nacelle]

Whats best gear combo for st elmo/striker set? 4 striker+memento+perfect obliterate chest or 3 striker/2 named Unit Alloy/ninja backpack?

[meager fog]

Ninjaback pack is never the answer in PvE

Memento is a strong piece of kit.

Backpack talents are very powerful.

[gusty nacelle]

Ok, thanks 🙂 for solo I will stay with memento, for group coyote mask instead

[meager fog]

Overdogs has higher DPS than Coyotes, but Coyotes is still a good choice

[gusty nacelle]

Dont have overdogs yet 🙁

[strong cave]

Memento or Coyote are/is fine until you get ODogs

[cloud sluice]

Is it still possible to get full Striker stacks (200) if I run 4 piece without chest and backpack?

[buoyant perch]

chest is required

[cloud sluice]

Ok thanks 👍

[restive python]

Is there any notification of what tier an enemy is when using Overdogs?

[meager fog]

No, only memory

[versed summit]

you'll do more damage to the lowest tier lol

[quartz herald]

Just by looking at their hp colour should tell you what tier tho no?

Or be it like those that focus on dpc are tier 1, and those with annoyance causing more.than dps focused are tier 2 n 3

[versed summit]

it's based on archetype not veterancy, so you really just need to learn what the archetypes are and where they fall, or just hope for the best

[strong cave]

No. It's based on enemy type, like rushers and Grenadiers/Throwers

Memorize it, and have 30% amp nearly all the time

When tier 3 is dead, tier 2 applies. When they're dead, tier 1 applies. Target specific enemies and you'll have damage galore

It's just one big checklist in order from top to bottom who to target first in fights with mixed enemies

[molten agate]

i have a question on CHC. why do we put CHC about 55-60? i feel like investing in CHD after setting my CHD around 40-50% yield more dmg. im not saying im right but i want to see the background of that logic. im newb

[buoyant perch]

CHC x CHD, whichever combination is higher means that damage is higher. But CHC is capped at 60% in this game.

[molten agate]

yea, in my experience setting CHC around 45%(except for smg) and putting the rest element CHD felt much better in temrs of dps

[buoyant perch]

don't rely on your "feeling", do the math

[molten agate]

CHC x CHD, this is why you are capping CHC around 55/60 and investing CHD?

[meager fog]

Eg: 57 x 116 = 6612

51 x 128 = 6528

First one will yield more damage.

[molten agate]

yea thx all, im changing everything to al least 55% up

[meager fog]

60 x 104 (adding another CHC but removing another CHD so you hit the cap) = 6240

So getting close to 60, but not going over it gives you the best damage potential in this scenario

[junior lagoon]

Chc 6 modes are hard to find

Chd 12 is easier

My experience

[crystal sphinx]

Did Blacklisters get nerfed ? I’m running it with Tipping scales 🙇🏾‍♂️

[foggy imp]

How do you get the decoy? I have so many maxed out mods for it

[broken edge]

Theo parnel tombs mission in NY

[foggy imp]

Any specific difficulty?

[broken edge]

nope

[meager fog]

There is no correlation between the two

[meager fog]

No, blacklisters hasn't been changed at all

[stone python]

Is there a more detailed explanation of how Overdog deals damage to each enemy, including the damage percentages? I’m a slow learner, and English isn’t my first language.

[stone python]

Yeah been looking for 6% CHC mod for months now. No luck so far :/

[smoky latch]

Well they got fixed a while back. Working as intended since

[junior lagoon]

Well you can decide grupo vs cesko gear and arrange the mods right?

[onyx sage]

ceska is more optimal

but what he meant is chd mods being easier to find is just rng

[meager fog]

It isn't easier to find CHD mods.

That's what I meant.

Pure RNG

[meager fog]

It deals 30% amplified damage to the lowest ranked enemy on that list who is currently engaged in combat.

Thats it

[junior lagoon]

Ah ok

[solar sable]

it's called common facebook knowledge

[foggy imp]

Is the chest usually recommended with heartbreaker or no

[short nexus]

Using regulus instead of tempest now

[copper yarrow]

What is this build for

[versed summit]

This is a confusing build. What's the goal

[short nexus]

Fun

[short nexus]

See: its entertaining

Also I like pulsed because it gives me an excuse to run spotter drone

[versed summit]

You can just run spotter drone

I promise

[short nexus]

People moan about it unless it ties into the build some how, pulsed prevents this

Im colorblind and spotter helps me see enemies better

[versed summit]

Spotter drone is the most sensical thing in this build

Why do you have two piece zwia, and petrov, but no rifle or lmg?

[short nexus]

What's nonsensical, backpack has vigil for 25% damage, chain killer is shelf explanatory, petrol for dttoc

Also I took this before I changed my gloves to contractors fml

[versed summit]

Petrov is not giving any dtooc

[short nexus]

Im using contractors and foxes now, I took that screenshot a while ago

[versed summit]

Still using Salvo?

[short nexus]

Of course

[versed summit]

Why?

[short nexus]

I love salvo, salvo is my only damage holster

[versed summit]

You need to farm some gear bro

[short nexus]

Yes I know but im busy making potatoes

[hazy steeple]

Like, out of atoms and such?

A grocer would be cheaper.

[short nexus]

No they're in the pot presently, making whipped potatoes like my grandma does

I bought em off a farmer, im cooking them myself

[versed summit]

Think about how much more time you'd have if you could get through content quickly with a better build

That'd be like, a lot more potatos

[short nexus]

Right now im thinking about my potatoes

Also I beat legendary dua with this so it can't be that bad

[versed summit]

Think in terms of potatoes

You can beat legendary dua with grey gear

[short nexus]

I can't, I suck at this game lmao

[short nexus]

Tbf contractors+foxes is a lot better

Salvo os the odd one out and doesn't do that much bad

[versed summit]

i mean, ig

3 pc hotshot would be better

[short nexus]

Perhaps, but i dont really care

[versed summit]

naturally. being that you're making potatoes and such

[short nexus]

mm those were good potatoes

now that i've eaten today, do you have a specific named holster you suggest for a snipers build?

[versed summit]

No reason for a named holster

You just want more MMR damage for headhunter

[short nexus]

then do you have a certain brand to suggest?

[versed summit]

Get 3 PC hotshot in there

[short nexus]

id lose me petrov

and i'd lose me other good stuff, like foxes

[versed summit]

Get an airaldi backpack

[versed summit]

Its worse, so its not a loss, but a gain

[short nexus]

isnt there a named backpack with flawless vigilance?

[smoky latch]

The Gift, Perfect Vigilance

[versed summit]

Its not as good here tbh

You could tho

[short nexus]

what's the difference between flawless vigilance and standard vigilance

[copper yarrow]

Just 1 second

[meager fog]

Pretty sure it's just the downtime when you get shot

[versed summit]

3 seconds vs 4

[short nexus]

das ist scheisse

[smoky latch]

3 instead of 4 seconds. No dmg increase

[smoky latch]

scheiße, you use ß after a diphtong

[short nexus]

look i dont have a german keyboard man, ss is the closest thing to the funny lookin b

i'm a random hermit from ohio that speaks some german

[smoky latch]

Hahahaha

[short nexus]

but yeah that's kinda ass

so an airialdi holdings backpack with vigi would be an upgrade and run 3pcs hotshot? whats 3pcs hotshot do

[subtle bluff]

numbers

[versed summit]

MMR damage, handling, headshot damage

[short nexus]

ok i mean specifically, everything is numbers in this game smartass

[short nexus]

interesting, yeah that seems pretty nice

[subtle bluff]

I mean you read enough I thought you'd read.

[smoky latch]

Why don't you google, lol

[short nexus]

thanks for the advice fellas

[smoky latch]

Or check ingame directly

[versed summit]

Its easier for us to tell them tbh

[subtle bluff]

or https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[short nexus]

i appreciate your advice icesco, after i go find a hatchet for my grandpa i'm gonna get to seeking this stuff

[versed summit]

Tinkerer isn't recommended, over dogs would actually be better.

You don't need flatline just as an excuse yo use spotter drone

[short nexus]

i know tinkerer isnt recommended but i like the way it looks

and flatline keeps people from whining and moaning that my skill is "not optimal", im tired of explaining it every time yk

[subtle bluff]

flatline isn't optimal almost ever

[versed summit]

Flatline is the bigger issue

[short nexus]

i know and i dont care, it gives me an excuse to run spotter without people moaning about build synergy and all that, it helps me see people

[versed summit]

Well people are moaning about you using flatline not using spotter drone

We're trying to help. Promise

[short nexus]

then what would beat flatline

[subtle bluff]

in our case here. If you're wanting other to carry you again sure do that.

[short nexus]

piss off chow you volunteered to run that mission, and i was there helping the whole damn time

[subtle bluff]

We're here to help you make a good build.

[versed summit]

If you're keeping tinkerer, ranger or optimist

[subtle bluff]

and we carried you listen to IC3SO is saying

[short nexus]

ive already got ranger in the tinker pool, what's optimist do

[versed summit]

Weapon damage based on how little ammo is left in the mag

[short nexus]

i think i'm gonna go ranger

[subtle bluff]

when do right it does this..

without modifiers or global event

[short nexus]

ive already got ranger in my tinker library, 3pcs hotshot should be quick with countdown, and airialdi holdings should be the same

shouldnt take me long to get these alterations, ill give it a shot

thanks man

[versed summit]

Right on. You can also try a utility talent with determined too.

And over dogs will be a damage upgrade if you're ever feeling like you need more damage

[short nexus]

do you have any recommendations? i dont use utiltiy talents all that often

[versed summit]

Preservation or future perfect probably

[short nexus]

preservation is the one that restores health on a headshot right

[versed summit]

On a kill, double on a headshot kill

[short nexus]

well ill be hitting nothing but headshots, good survivability i suppose

[sour parrot]

Nice one ☝️

[short nexus]

no i mean i'm using determined, after one headshot kill i physically cannot not hit a headshot

[subtle bluff]

You still need to hit one.

Why is posted the Hotdog build use either gun, take your first shot correctly and it's starts the chain.

[short nexus]

there we get, one countdown run

[versed summit]

Why are you using spotter drone /j

Looks nice though for a tinkerer setup

[short nexus]

though i do have a question, do you think hotshot backpack could be good for permenant uptime and no more reloads?

[versed summit]

No

Too much damage loss tbh

[short nexus]

do you think there's a better talent than vigilance?

[versed summit]

No

[solar sable]

for that setup, no

vigi is bis because of HH

[subtle bluff]

you can do more but will get thru heroic

has shown in the video above.

[short nexus]

this takes a bit more skill cause of repeated headshots but i kinda like it better, 50mil shots

[hexed steppe]

If you replaced tinkerer with overdogs and use shroud you could be hitting 60-80 mil range, 45ish mil range if using mantis

[subtle bluff]

Gonna keep referencing the to the clip that isn't using overdogs.

[short nexus]

i dont have shroud, and overdogs requires i target a specific kind of enemy for the damage buff

[subtle bluff]

I've explained already above. I'll let local do it again.

[hexed steppe]

Kinda funny how you hit high numbers regardless

[subtle bluff]

in better words since probably I'm not Englishing well this afternoon.

[hexed steppe]

Not explaining, dont worry, just an improvement to what I see is all

[short nexus]

mantis is sorta tempting, i love its UI

plus i do like using decoys

[hexed steppe]

I been sorta swamped so haven't been around a lot

[short nexus]

i get it man, how you been?

[hexed steppe]

I bounce between mantis or shroud. I'm anti determined at this point so its actively avoided. I like mantis a lot but shroud gets a bug boost against the high ranked npcs so its a 50/50 split in my mind

The decoy game with mantis is strong tho

[edgy hollow]

Serious question as a hot shot user. I put the digital scope on my white death. Is that not BIS?

[subtle bluff]

For DMG wise yes. For usable for some of us we'll trade not to zoom

[onyx sage]

you also shoot faster if you don't use a zoom scope

[edgy hollow]

Gotcha.

[meager fog]

ADS should be optional on all scopes tbh lol

[versed summit]

was really nice in div 1

[hazy steeple]

The real winners get to 100% stability, and then hipfire with it.

[subtle bluff]

[hazy steeple]

I'll never forget the first time I hipfired a White Death shot into an NPC from the very perimeter of the Petrol Station, to the spawn door inside it.

bonus style points if you blind-fire from cover with it.

[shy willow]

12x scope on your assault rifle meta was peak

[buoyant perch]

Updated version
So I heard that iKia found out that Cleaners' bomber drone is actually tier 2 and not tier 3 like other skill proxies. So I went back to IH to did some testing about IH big shield. Initially, I though since they share the same icon as hyena big shield (which I tested to be tier 1), they must be the same archetype. Well, I was wrong - that's the division for you , they are indeed tier 2 despite the same icon.

[buoyant perch]

Updated update
I messed up the initial testing in IH. I forgot that there are 2 heavy weapons on top. OD buff work on both heavies and big shield at the same time so they are both tier 1.

[fair dragon]

What about the nades from throwers?

[buoyant perch]

No icon, no health bar either

[fair dragon]

True

[molten agate]

what is the best attribute for pesti? is it DTA or CHC?

[silent storm]

ADS was only on 4x and up just like here

[silent storm]

Why is this so big?

[solar sable]

phone ss

[hazy steeple]

@silent storm fixed it for ya

[silent storm]

I need to justify my statement now that Discord is back up

[hazy steeple]

wait sorry, now it's small enough

[silent storm]

I was replying to this hours ago

And someone said that was great in Division 1

But in Division 1 and Division 2 only 4x+ allows you to FPV zoom in

Literally the same from game to game

And that is what is great about the CHC optic in this game as you can place it on a gun and then get the chance to zoom in while there isn't a CHD option for that

even the 12% WH optic can't be zoomed on

I feel that is an under reported failure of the game

Because zooming in literally adds like 50 weapon handling right off the bat

[copper yarrow]

Making a rifle HH build, 3 piece breaking point, 2 zwia. For the final piece what would be better, Fox prayer or Overdogs?

[subtle bluff]

overdogs generally

You 2pc Breaking, 2pc Zoo, Overdogs and Foxes

[grand girder]

NBB on top 💯

who needs amp damage anyway

[quartz herald]

In the spreadsheet on Phone whenever I open a link it keeps opening the main intro page, any workaround that?

[primal cave]

hi guys anybody got any cool backfire builds never used it cause of the bleed thing

[smoky latch]

4pcs CoCo, Equalizer, Overdogs

[primal cave]

do we not care about the bleed thing? and is that all red?

[smoky latch]

I hate the bleed effect but I'll gladly take it for that damage

All red for me, you can make it fit for you however you like

[primal cave]

alright cool ill check it out thanks!

[meager fog]

The bleed is annoying, but it only procs if you reload on new stacks.

If you try to only reload on full BF stacks, it won't cause bleed

[thick meteor]

Is there a good build with no stacks? Like no memento, no striker with its stacks etc

[cerulean smelt]

only one i know is 3 providence (sacrifice + gift) fox's, contractor's, grupo or coyote's mask and whatever 2 weapons you want. using strained talent (still stacking but not per hit) "Gain 10% critical hit damage for every 0.5s you are firing.
Stacks up to 5 times."

[meager fog]

High end damage builds.

They have more upfront damage than a gear set build but will fall off once the Gears stack.

[thick meteor]

Ah, alright, since I saw a stackless build a bit back, and they went on legendary missions, albeit with other players

[meager fog]

Gear set builds will outperform a high end damage build in the long term. But if the player can't keep their stacks up due to a skill issue then a highj end damage build would work better.

[thick meteor]

Alright, thank you

[hexed steppe]

Nego sacrifice overdogs

Nego capable of out performing striker in target rich environment. Nego also able to utilize its transfer to make any rank target take overdogs amp, as long as the target is always lowest tier

[robust solar]

@meager fog It doesnt say where to get the striker, its just a drop anywhere I assume?

[cerulean smelt]

yes anywhere, we usually tell people run challening countdown with striker as targeted loot and you'll get all 6 pieces

[robust solar]

hmm I probably need to invest inthe DLCS now at this point huh

[cerulean smelt]

Warlords of New York gives you hunter masks, named Chest piece (hunter-killer) and 4 skils, Battle for Brooklyn gives you 8 hunter masks, named AR (huntsman) and 1 exotic mask (catalyst) not sure why you'd need it for countdown as it's in the base game as is

[copper yarrow]

How does one setup the negi diamondback build?

[cerulean smelt]

is that in the spreadsheet builds?

if you're talking this, it's only used in Dark Hours Raids to by pass their invulnerable state from normal fire where you fire your main weapon to mark him with a crit, then you pull out the diamond back and shoot the 1 randomly marked target to wail on iwth the diamond back to always crit transfer, rinse and repeat

beyond that, diamondback isn't really used as it randomly selects a target for you to shoot to always crit on it

[copper yarrow]

Ah okay, I thought it was for PvE lol

[cerulean smelt]

dark hours is PVE Raid, but under normal everyday game play it's really not useful as that randomly marked target can be anything 😹 a mini purple tank for instance and unless you destroyed the treads it'll move all about and move faster going back to the engineer to repair it

[copper yarrow]

man I wish they reworked some exotics

[cerulean smelt]

don't we all

[onyx sage]

@hexed steppe can we pin this updated version and remove the older one?

[cerulean smelt]

clicked on it and was trying to makes heads and tails on it considering the mention of heavies in IH and then was like ah, nm the overdogs that goes over my head anyways 😹

[cerulean smelt]

i'm a simpleton. rather just point gun and fire to do damage instead of "am i shooting the right things?" 😹

[copper yarrow]

I'm loving Strega with Overdogs + sacrifice, start at lower tier and if you can reach tier 1 quickly they get 105 amp dmg

[cerulean smelt]

assume 105 is strega stacks?

[copper yarrow]

30 PGC + 30 OvD + 75 Strega

[onyx sage]

they all multiply btw, not add, so in reality it's a bit bigger

[cerulean smelt]

pretty sure strega maxes out at 75% amp damage? 5x15

[onyx sage]

yeah that's true, strega max is 1.75

[copper yarrow]

oof

For a red EP build with iron lung, would it be better to use Vile or Catalyst

[cerulean smelt]

you planning on being in range to your targets for catalyst?

[copper yarrow]

that's an issue but Vile has a yellow core🥲

[cerulean smelt]

nods and you don't have explosive built in so the ticking damage would be pretty minimal

[stray hull]

Can anyone tell me how to add attachments to the drone or seeker mine, ive been on youtube and cant find anything

[short nexus]

What's catalyst do

[gloomy spruce]

So hello build advice channel. So why is the beacon considered trash tier?

[cerulean smelt]

10 Meters

[gloomy spruce]

Range issue

[cerulean smelt]

do you see yourself staying 10 meters to an agent throughout a mission to give you and them those buffs?

[gloomy spruce]

I use a turret for that and focus the turret on the target that I am shooting.

[cerulean smelt]

nods getting the lesser buff 😹

[gloomy spruce]

At first, yes until the other agent gets closer. Then the stacks happen and then magic.

[cerulean smelt]

i know not much of a difference but to me it's a huge difference

[gloomy spruce]

If this is a bad idea, I am looking for a better option.

[cerulean smelt]

i wish you luck in coming up with a build that'll put it in new light, but i think most people would rather have a High end chest and exotic some other spot 🤔

[gloomy spruce]

So is that why people are running overdogs and equalizer?

[cerulean smelt]

4% more damage + 30% amp from gloves

normal obliterate is 20% perfect obliterate is 24%

[gloomy spruce]

Also the whole +5% ROF

I am seeing it now. Thanks!

[cerulean smelt]

you know considering we're started to see some missions having mortars or other things were being 10m of something means we take damage. so staying 10m to something is rough in general
personally i don't know how far 10 meters realy is, don't even know feet wise either so it's just one of those that goes over my head

[honest helm]

Anyone got a fun set up for solo with either burn or explosives?

[opaque sphinx]

Hello! I'm just getting back into div2 after a while of not playing, was wondering what good pve builds are around now, since I was never fully doing buildcrafting before WONY and now everything I knew is probably quite old by now

[subtle bluff]

If you check out the Pinned Messages > Gear Sheet > Build Hub
You'll find a bunch of good info.

[subtle bluff]

EP in the build hub

[opaque sphinx]

I'm not seeing a build hub on the pinned gear sheet, just a dps calc

[opaque sphinx]

OH

Thank you so much

[cerulean smelt]

Wouldn't it be great if we got this pinned here?

[junior lagoon]

I am looking for a hazard pro build specifically to beat sparky in challenging

[smoky latch]

Do you mean Sparkle in the Stovepipe manhunt mission?

@junior lagoon

[junior lagoon]

Yes

Wipes the floor with me

[smoky latch]

DM me your ingame name

Down to help with that

[subtle bluff]

Do more DPS shoot and run.

That's all it takes.

[foggy imp]

What’s the hive skill called that has a green circle and heals you every few seconds or do you have to get that one from a mission

[subtle bluff]

Kill the other dogs first and run from him

[smoky latch]

Restorer hive

You don't have to unlock it like some other skills

[smoky latch]

Well if you want help, I'll wait another 5 minutes

[junior lagoon]

Sorry i am not with my pc right now

After trying 15 times

Went out to calm down

[smoky latch]

I see. What Mr. Chow said, DPS works well but I can see how not everyone can do it easily. So feel free to ping me next time you're running that mission

[junior lagoon]

The thing instantly jumps where i am ignores my decoy and burns me before i can do anything

[subtle bluff]

Move. Away from and dps the other things that can immediately target you.

Then dps it last since it needs to get close to hurt you.

EMP sticky and decoy are your friends.

[junior lagoon]

I was reading and apparently they changed him so ignores all others like decoy turret and directly attacks player

Decoy definitely does not work. Completely ignores it

[subtle bluff]

For some weird reason I've helped like 5 people in the last few days with this. That's all I do. Run, decoy for the other dogs, kill other dogs, emp if they're running too far.

[junior lagoon]

Yeah i am not that good

Cant do what you say without dying instantly

[subtle bluff]

Do you just stand there?

[junior lagoon]

No i run around but he finds me jumps where i am very quickly

Once he is close i cant get away

[subtle bluff]

It's simple enough. Spawn run right. One a other dogs start targeting you drop decoy.

Don't let him...... Keep running and shooting.

[junior lagoon]

Lookc that does not work for me

[subtle bluff]

Dunno what to say to you. It's all it's needed.

[junior lagoon]

If it was so easy you would not have people asking for help lol

[subtle bluff]

I show them and they get it afterwards.

Positioning is key.

[junior lagoon]

I am looking for a build that will trivialize his fire damage

[subtle bluff]

Like my first time back in it. I reminded myself what the prioty in this fight.

Do it be normal and just burst it?

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/
Build it out.

[short nexus]

lmao, i made a build that maximizes ammo return from bullet king (it uses your mag cap to return ammo)

[uncut sluice]

any improvements i could make on these 3 builds? meant for dz

[subtle bluff]

use #td2-pvp-discussions lil more targeted chat there

[uncut sluice]

alr thank you

[subtle bluff]

The PvP'er will get around to replying may take some time.

[drowsy mica]

I hope this is an okay channel for this

[drowsy mica]

da build :3

[subtle bluff]

Go chatterbox it's funner

[shy willow]

Just about anything will feel amazing with golden bullet buff

[drowsy mica]

the rpm is probably wild lmao

[meager fog]

#ask-td2-community message

Use turmoil for more fun with Golden Bullet

[astral kraken]

iron lung is funny with golden bullet b/c if you keep killing you get an infinite mag of fire ammo

[woeful zodiac]

Gun Funner

[lost wren]

for coyote striker do you run ceska chest or eq chest

[solar sable]

equalizer

[lost wren]

55 chc and 132 chd?

[solar sable]

yeah, thats as far as it goes with coyote's

[smoky latch]

50/51 CHC with Coyote's

[lapis hare]

So Im still in the early stages of the endgame stuff but what should I do to improve this striker build? Its fun but dang I wish I had a bit more armor. Like if there were a build that I could have a good amount of armor and great damage as well that would be awesome. But anyway here are 2 screenshots of my gear.

[solar sable]

if you need armor git gud do 3/3 or 4/2, either way the dmg loss will be significant

[lapis hare]

Okay, well im kind of close. I did just make a police M4 but the talent on it gives bonus damage when a skill is not on cooldown. I also need those mag and sight mods for it.

[solar sable]

I only use Streamline on HH builds since you dont use them much unless decoy

[subtle bluff]

Any weapon with good RPM and Killer is very good for solo

[lapis hare]

lol yeah I don't really want to lose out on damage. I just dislike having my armor taken out so fast when im trying to kill enemies. Though thi si smore so on challenging and for sure heroic.

I wish I had Lefty.

[solar sable]

ehhh, you wont do great with lefty while solo

[lapis hare]

Oh okay. Not really a solo gun?

[solar sable]

keyboard asmr I love it

[subtle bluff]

..... when I was first making videos...

[solar sable]

nah, it's used often for Incursion to apply sledge to bosses

[subtle bluff]

Lefty works for everyone

[solar sable]

if you can hit a nade 😆

[subtle bluff]

Skill issue

[solar sable]

did you just call me below average (cuz I am)

[buoyant perch]

Aren't we all below average?

[subtle bluff]

I'm a Avg Support player

[hazy steeple]

Hey, whatever you're into, I ain't gonna judge.

[lapis hare]

Damn dude! That was clean. Hardly even used cover too. I dont yet have decoy, but Ill be using that.

[subtle bluff]

It's a showing what can be done.

IMO not that clean since I am being reckless to show limits

[lapis hare]

Also was that heroic or legendary? I would have died for sure. But seeing as you are SHD 7k you know your stuff.

[subtle bluff]

Heroic

[solar sable]

heroic, its lincoln memorial

[lapis hare]

Like I said I need that Mag mod and Sight mod. I dont have those yet.

[subtle bluff]

Nah if you take that slower you'll be fine.

[lapis hare]

Yeah I just ran that a little bit ago for a challenge

[subtle bluff]

Know what DPS you have is kind of important in ways.

[solar sable]

shd lvl doesnt define your knowledge level
golden rule

[subtle bluff]

If I weren't lazy I'd get HC to do showcases that way

[solar sable]

chow, just do solo incursion atp, you're an incursion goat /j

[subtle bluff]

Not ready to hurt myself that much

[lapis hare]

True, but I do feel like if you have high SHD like that you have been playing for a long time and know a thing or two.

[subtle bluff]

It's fair to a degee. The point you could go slower and do the same thing

[lapis hare]

Fair.

Also im curious why your striker set looked blue?

[solar sable]

colorblind settings

[lapis hare]

Ohhh

[solar sable]

it's not bc we're actually colorblind but because it gives a small advantage while playing

[magic pilot]

New pfp who dis

[lapis hare]

Interesting...like what exactly? Also I have been curious if there are any recommended key binds to make things "smoother"? I guess more so for skills. Though Q and E do feel nice. Feel some people might change the armor kit key.

[solar sable]

blast areas of grenades and mortars for example

hive area is also highlighted when in colorblind settings

[lapis hare]

Man yall cant see the red?!! Lol jk

[solar sable]

lmao it's way easier to see them, try it

[lapis hare]

I will

[hazy steeple]

Same pfp, but I decided to see what the zoomers like these days and make it shinier.

[hexed steppe]

-# *AI has evolved *

[strong cave]

There's times the red fully blends in with your environment or its too dim to actually see it due to how vibrant div's color scheme actually is

[shy willow]

Morozova is a nightmare without colourblind settings

[hexed steppe]

builds also look cooler with color blind settings on

[meager fog]

Blue > Green

[strong cave]

"why you got blue gear on bro? That's so bad"

Literally wearing striker...

[molten agate]

would you put ur CHC as 54.9% or 60.9%? how much excess would you allow?

[karmic bison]

hey, im pretty new to the game and only played smg and assault rifles so far (level 18 atm).

i was wondering what the endgame meta is and if it changes from time to time?

also want to know if you can make a good sniper / rifle build for lategame.

thanks in advance ☝️

[subtle bluff]

tbh don't worry about any build stuff till you get to 40.

[karmic bison]

yeah i was thinking about level 40. just wanted to know

[subtle bluff]

meta changing not too much small things it depends on a few things.

more or less yes.

[karmic bison]

can i play sniper/rifle on endgame with level 40?

Or will i get kicked from groups/raids if i dont play the meta? (whats the meta right now?)

[subtle bluff]

pretty sure we've told you already CHC x CHD whatever is a bigger number use that.

raids don't let it in. Striker is the meta

[meager fog]

Depends on the build

[subtle bluff]

learn the gameplay while you're lvl there's a lot to learn.

[meager fog]

If Nego or Tipping scales, hit 60% no matter how far over you go.

If most other crit based builds it's CHC x CHD

[karmic bison]

yeah i'm on that. trying out new weapons as they drop

[slate wedge]

you can just easily calculate it by doing 0.549 x ChD and 0.6 x (ChD - 0.12)

[strong cave]

Higher number = better choice

Simple example:

46 (CHC) × 168 (CHD) = 7,728

Or

54 (CHC) × 154 (CHD) = 8,316

Or

60 (CHC) × 142 (CHD) = 8,520

[gusty sigil]

is the Chameleon exotic still good for a striker build, or go for the Lexington/St Elmo's still? all this is kinda new to me lol

[magic pilot]

It's a decent choice, better options out there

[gusty sigil]

I literally just got this lmaoo from a priority objective.

[versed summit]

The issue is accuracy, so if you're playing past 20 meters you're going to have a bad time

[gusty sigil]

mmm okay, makes sense

[gusty sigil]

so if I'd optimize all of these to their full potential, then it'd be a great fit for the build?

[strong cave]

Reroll Elmos to DTTOC (damage to targets out of cover)

And then yes, perfect for basically any DPS crit build

[gusty sigil]

how do I do that?

it says slots can't be recalibrated

[strong cave]

Visit Inaya at the white house, she's your crafting vendor. She should have the Elmos reconfigure blueprint. Then, head into your crafting bench and locate your exotic reconfigure tab (looks like a protractor icon). This is located under "weapon" crafting

Just select the Elmos you got and reroll it over and over until you get DTTOC

Once you have DTTOC on Elmos, make sure to mark the weapon as favorite so you don't accidentally mark it as junk one day and deconstruct it. Thousands of newbies have made that mistake and even many veterans

[meager fog]

The issue with the Chameleon is that it's an SMG pretending to be an AR, but doesn't have the pro's of an SMG

[small igloo]

Just remember this game is a marathon not a race.

[strong cave]

Chameleon isn't bad within 20m but outside of that any other AR will outperform chameleon

It's better to be versatile at majority of all ranges VS being good at 1 range

[meager fog]

It has one of the highest Damage ceilings of any AR.

It's just really awkward to use effectively

[gusty sigil]

ah okay. so I had bought the reconfiguration.. but I'm not findind it in the Tinkering or Crafting station.

[strong cave]

It's under Weapons when you first open up the bench. You'll need to scroll thru the different types of weapons until you start seeing exotics. Look for Elmos

You know you found it when it says "St Elmos Engine Reconfigure Blueprint" or something along those lines with those words

[gusty sigil]

ah I see it. I don't have exotic componenets lol

I should scrap one of my exotics then?

[strong cave]

Any exotics you don't plan on keeping and decide to junk and deconstruct will give you 1 exotic component

[meager fog]

Only if it's one you don't want.

But I wouldnt bother just yet.

[strong cave]

For right now, CHD is fine on Elmos

[meager fog]

If you havent got alot of exo components. Don't try rerolling it

Because it could get worse

[gusty sigil]

oh okay lol thanks. was wondering what CHD was, until I actually looked

[meager fog]

CHC = Crit Hit Chance, CHD = Crit Hit Damage, Dttooc = Damage to Target out of cover (this is what you want on almost all weapons and all builds)

[slate wedge]

isn’t it THE highest damage celing?

[buoyant perch]

strega is higher

[slate wedge]

forgot that even exists

i don’t think i ever shot a songle bullet with it

[magic pilot]

It's fun to use but the magsize and 5% chc is an L

[strong cave]

3 unit alloys fixes that 💯

[cerulean smelt]

and 3 Brazos 😹

[magic pilot]

Unfortunately it's not optimal

Can't have 3 unit and 4 striker don't even mention ninja lol

[strong cave]

ah see this is why id go full high end and say screw striker

i say screw striker but i still use it

[magic pilot]

Like I said, it's fun to use but not optimal

One day Strega will get a buff

[cerulean smelt]

@strong cave and @versed summit imagine the magazine size if we wore 3 pieces of Unit Alloys and Brazos in a build 🤔

[strong cave]

if a gun has 50 magsize and its a 100 increase its going to be 100 rounds. people have already went the 3 brazos and 3 unit route for high end to try to force Huntsman to work (its still terrible)

[buoyant perch]

There are actual youtube builds with just that

[cerulean smelt]

here, i more imagining. 50% of 50, then 50% of 75 😹

[slate wedge]

is it tho?

doesn’t it get like 19% rof and 19% wd on reload

[strong cave]

It's still fairly bad when it's only every other proc

[slate wedge]

is it still bugged where it doesn’t proc again?

[strong cave]

Nah it will still proc you just have to time it

[cerulean smelt]

strega right? maybe that's why it felt weak to me because i wasn't timing this

[strong cave]

Huntsman

[cerulean smelt]

Ah, figured the real issue is the mag size. Love it on an lmg like stoner or gr9

[cerulean smelt]

think if they threw this talent on say a MK16 it'd be a bit better recieved?

[strong cave]

honestly, I can get behind it on an Mk16

[leaden flume]

Hey quick question does incoming repairs count for the clutch backpack talent?

[cerulean smelt]

could you imagine if the auto firing rifles could've gotten frenzy on them?

[magic pilot]

No

[leaden flume]

dang. thank you!

[strong cave]

technically isnt that what an Assault Rifle is?

[cerulean smelt]

i know, but still i can only imagine like the LightWeight M4 shooting much faster and becoming harder to control 😹

[subtle bluff]

Clutch is a very bad talent. When a Brandset bonus does more it's super bad.

[leaden flume]

yeah i know its one of the worse ones. just couldnt remember if incoming repairs counted towards it

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, long time ago clutch was very nice, but since a gear update back then clutch hasn't seen the light of day ever again

[leaden flume]

Yeah which is kinda sad. cause its a cool idea. but its the same story for alot of talents

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 i'd be tempted to try it with a Negotiator's Dilemma build though. see if the crit transfers gives you more armor back

[leaden flume]

....oh i might try that too

[cerulean smelt]

even if you got turmoil, might make some really interesting interactions with critting 😹

[solemn bough]

Hey all. Me and a group of 3 others just picked this game up. In group play, is it worth it to have roles(healer, tank?) etc. or just everyone go dps and churn through it?

[cerulean smelt]

from 1-39 you're all effectively going to be DPS. level 40 depending what you guys do. it'll still mostly be DPS
raids/incrusion/legendary/maybe mastery missions you'll probably at least want a healer of sorts
build wise you won't need to worry until 40 anyways as well

[solemn bough]

Thank you! We are level 40 and doing Challenging open world stuff to get equipped right now. All in the 50's SHD level.

[cerulean smelt]

pins in the upper right hand corner has a spreadsheet of Tried, tested and approved builds. you 4 can check it out and see which ones you guys like

[solemn bough]

Thank you very much.

[meager fog]

They already handle like shit lol

[subtle bluff]

Go turn on the golden bullet and try it out.

[cerulean smelt]

not a rifle fan so no thanks. if you told me to hit a barn from 5 feet away, i'd still spectacularly miss it

[small junco]

So uh, I've been resisting the Striker build for a while, but decided to finally give it a spin.

Holy shit

[robust yarrow]

What are you using for the build?

[solar sable]

what's the setup you're running? Overdogs or Coyote's?

[small junco]

Coyote. I was fortunate enough to have it drop before my 5+ year hiatus

And I got lucky with a St Elmo drop a few days ago

[solar sable]

you should try to get Overdogs, they are the new replacement for Coyote's

[subtle bluff]

Striker doesn't need much to be good.

[solar sable]

it already is good

[small junco]

I'll look out for them! This gane changed so much in the time I stopped playing

Countdown is such a huge improvement to the game. Being able to spend one run to grab enough pieces to a gear set to try something new is amazing

[meager fog]

Can I ask WHY you've been "resisting" using the best build in the game?

Literally makes no sense at any point, or in any game to "resist" using the BiS

[onyx sage]

hey. i save the meat for last after i eat the veggies too

[solar sable]

tell that to facebook boomers

[meager fog]

It's more like saying "I don't use a knife to cut my food because I can do it with my forehead"

[onyx sage]

nah i think it's just forcing delayed enjoyment

we don't know if he's like "i hate meta" or not

[meager fog]

That's why I asked.

Hating meta is just an odd stance to take in any game, since the meta simply makes the game easier.

I understand more when people might say "I tri ed using the meta but it's boring"

[onyx sage]

hating meta is... a choice, as we all know, but i also like delaying using the best ways to do something in order to fully figure out some hidden things. but it's not the same of course

[subtle bluff]

Like he mentioned probably an older player

[meager fog]

I'm an older player 😠

[onyx sage]

I'm just an average player

[meager fog]

I think there comes a difference when you don't want to use the best in slot for whatever reason to not using it out of spite for yourself lol

[subtle bluff]

I hate it here. I leave. I no English.

[meager fog]

You English fine.

You just don't communicate well 😛

[small junco]

I like to heal! And I have only been back for less than a week, rofl. I've been overwhelmed by the amount of change that has occurred in the last 5 years

I just got Bluescreen on my last Countdown run, so now I feel the urge to mess around with that too

[cerulean smelt]

i'm afraid i have to tell you this but,
striker is dessert in this game 😹

[meager fog]

I mean, there are dozens of already pre made mathematically sound builds that use it.

[dense swallow]

looking or some build advice. im already set up pretty well. just trying to get min/maxed.

should i be rinning coyotes instead of that strikers mask?

[meager fog]

You're set up poorly.

There is zero use in using 5 gear set pieces.

[small junco]

You bet! I'll look into it eventually. I just got back, after all.

[dense swallow]

so use coyotes for the mask what your telling me?

[subtle bluff]

almost anything other than just 5pcs strikers

[fiery gust]

You'll benefit from just about anything regardless of what it is compared to 5 pieces of Striker. Coyote's is fine, Overdogs gloves are fine, even like a Grupo piece (not back) would be way better than 5 pieces of Striker since it doesn't offer any bonuses over 4 pieces.

[meager fog]

Literally using anything else would be beneficial

[uncut sluice]

do u have ninja bike bag

[meager fog]

No.

There is never any reason to use NBB in PVE

Literally zero reason.

[uncut sluice]

there is def a few reasons ur just wrong

[subtle bluff]

Nope

[meager fog]

No. None at all.

[subtle bluff]

Try us.

[uncut sluice]

rifle build

[meager fog]

Its a direct nerf to all PvE builds.

[subtle bluff]

Why is that?

[meager fog]

Wrong. Try againm

[uncut sluice]

my rifle build works perfecrt with it

[fiery gust]

Yea, I don't think you're going to benefit any compared to using Vigilance.

[subtle bluff]

PLZ show me a NBB Rifle build that can do this.

Even near this.

[meager fog]

It doesn't.

It's being nerfed by it

[uncut sluice]

i mean a headshot marksman rifle my b

[meager fog]

No.

[fiery gust]

That's even worse lol.

[uncut sluice]

how?

[subtle bluff]

23mill HSD?

[uncut sluice]

im one shotting every enemy no sweat even named

[uncut sluice]

yes about

[subtle bluff]

If you have no idea how this work trust... You still have a lot to learn.

Time to mke a clip quickly.

[dense swallow]

Are these stats ok? i equipped coyotes

[meager fog]

Perfect

[subtle bluff]

maybe to much CHC but that'll still work

[dense swallow]

i still need to get some better rolls for some mods that would up that a lil bit

[fiery gust]

I'd probably drop to closer to 50%, but that's just me. It'll work either way.

[dense swallow]

anything i can do to push it further besides get some stronger mods?

[subtle bluff]

Change a CHC to CHD for now.

[fiery gust]

That's backwards. 😌

[dense swallow]

yea lmost all of my chd mods are maxed lol

[meager fog]

No

[subtle bluff]

it's for coyote mask

[dense swallow]

chest

holster