td2-pvp-discussions

[pale tundra]

Kinda wish that massive banned cheaters

[pulsar vapor]

That's not gonna happen anytime soon unfortunately

Pvp has been neglected for as long I can remember

[craggy trench]

I'd be happy if they just fixed all the bugs related to PvP

[mossy solstice]

I'm gonna politely ask you to step out of the kitchen, we don't sell charcoal nuggets in this lounge. Dear God not the sys corr... 😭🤷‍♀️ WHYYYY

That is absolutely wild that sys corr kits will buff skills. I never knew that 💀 but that's so many steps just to get a build to work

[craggy trench]

It's absolutely insane, I saw it in action before I saw the build. Was blown away

[wet badger]

I agree, this would obvs be an LMG perk. We kinda have something that fills that role with the Bluescreen but it's not all that. I never understood why the status from it is hard capped when hazard works against it. Makes no sense.

[pulsar vapor]

Maybe in div3
That's if they put an emphasis on pvp

[tawdry pier]

MASSIVE GIVE ME PVP SUPPORT AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[sinful grotto]

YouTubers finally talking about full auto nemesis🙏

[wet badger]

Those prayers go nowhere, just like our reports

[pulsar vapor]

The only way to kill them is by counter sniping

[mossy solstice]

Another counter: don't play in the same server as them if you see that sorta shit 🤌

[floral hearth]

True

Don't give them clips to promote their sh1te

[mossy solstice]

I say don't give them people to shoot 😂 cheaters will get bored fast when there's nobody to cheat on

[inland tusk]

Imagine if div3 is only pve even thou main selling point was dz

[golden ermine]

Div 3 lowkey might be pve only lol

Get rid of those "toxic" pvpers

[sharp shoal]

so dark zone is totally unplayable?

people just teleport and fill the whole screen with bullets

[inland tusk]

Even thou pve ppl more toxic than us pvp folks,like legit i remember when 1st raid come out, ppl were so toxic and angry they didn't get eb on 1st clear,some of them sold their ps4 and send everyone a nice msg on psn

[urban aurora]

Might disable VoIP if you feel that's too toxic but there's a good amount of douches in PvE as well.

[wet badger]

PvE players are the biggest crybabies, look how they spam Reddit and other social media outlets with endless cries while the game is fresh and poppin off.

"Wahhh why I get 4v1d at a landmark I'm just trying to do my dailies"

5 mins later: ganging up on a single solo rogue player with 6 others and feeling good about it, even emoting etc 😆😆😆😆

[golden ermine]

1v4ing a team and seeing a reddit post calling you toxic for killing players in the dz 🥹

[tawdry pier]

how dare you uhh do what's intended

[pulsar vapor]

I refuse to touch the dz with a 20 foot pole
Even tho I'm very active on conflict

MASSIVE, GIVE US 8V8 WITHOUT MERCY RULE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

[golden ermine]

I prefer asymmetrical fights

1vmany

[near swallow]

i can now see why

recently hit level 1000 and ever since then dz has been unbearable... full of people at expertise 30 who are complete assholes and just kill me for no reason

and then proceed to spend 20 minutes t-bagging at the checkpoint just to make a point or some shit... why is this community so horrible?

[golden ermine]

"Kill me for no reason" it is a pvp area

[wet badger]

He has to be joking right? It's literally written about 5 comments up 😆😂

[half compass]

They are a div player so dont expect too much from them

[pulsar vapor]

"Being killed for no reason."

I mean that's the average dz experience

I meant more of the cheaters roaming around
If there was no cheaters
I'll happily contribute to the problem

plus dz is mostly dead on Xbox

[glacial mauve]

DZ is far from mostly dead on Xbox! Maybe the west coast servers but definitely not in the East and Central!

[near swallow]

Yeah fair point.

Was having a bad night last night. I apologize for venting like that.

on the other hand i find it hilariously ironic how the responses to what i said prove my statement about this community being horrible.

[pulsar vapor]

Even then
It's mainly dz south that has the most activity

And it's always the same thing
Fight over a staircase at the main entrance for the next hour or two

[pulsar vapor]

The dz has always been like that
At least in div1 there was an actual reason to kill someone because there was a possibility of them having good loot

Div2 is just for the love of the game lol

[near swallow]

i only got into the game recently so i didn’t really have the chance to appreciate that

[amber ice]

Okay folks, take it down to a 7/10.

[pulsar vapor]

Yurr

[near swallow]

i’m sorry i had a bad night ok

[pulsar vapor]

Anyway check out my sniping clip

[near swallow]

that cuts both ways.

[near swallow]

give me a break okay i’m still new to this game
i didn’t have people constantly going rogue until i got to level 1000, dz people i ran into were chill before then

[pulsar vapor]

Easy my guy
It's best not engage with the dz till you get yourself a pvp build

[near swallow]

they’re the ones antagonizing me what do you want me to say

[pulsar vapor]

To not engage and ignore
Peeps here are more then willing to help
You just have to ask in #ask-td2-community

[near swallow]

yeah i find that hard to imagine.

[amber ice]

The DZ is meant to be unhospitable, it's meant to kill you.
It's a PvP-only area. The good news is that you don't actually need to go in there for anything.

[near swallow]

that wasn’t my experience until now so idk what you want me to say

[amber ice]

Nothing, just take a break. It's clear by your filtered messages that you are having a rough day.

[near swallow]

sorry.

[pulsar vapor]

Is this a scam?

[zenith lily]

same message in every channel, so quite certain 🙂

[tawdry pier]

@amber ice nuke the bot

Ok let's try someone who's online @kind lotus

[tawdry pier]

If it smells fishy don't touch

[limber cedar]

Was, now it's dead.

[pulsar vapor]

Hell yea

[pale tundra]

First game of the morning, already a 3 stack. Mortars that spawn under you and being sniped through 4 sets of buildings. Must be a really good gamer chair.

[golden ermine]

Skill issue

[pale tundra]

Low IQ response.

[tawdry pier]

I mean what did you expect sending that

[pulsar vapor]

Jammer with demolish firefly at minimum st2
It's usually enough to put them out of commission for the time being

Or my usual go-to
Sniping

The only time artillery becomes "mildly annoying" is when it's paired up with someone running technician with artificer hive

[tawdry pier]

Hardwired mortar is simply ridiculous

Jam? Mortar right back up

Combine with a bulwark and tdi and you get a toxic build

[pulsar vapor]

That's when the sticky emp comes in handy
Emp the whole block and they're jammed for 30 seconds

[tawdry pier]

uhh not 30 secs lol

[pulsar vapor]

Oh they'll be
Cuz every arty build has no hazard protection

Too busy maximizing status and damage

[tawdry pier]

i know but not 30 secs unless you have t6 and all status which by then why would you use emp sticky

• its usually a supporting build or to put pressure on spawn the mortar user would stay behind team if disrupted

[pulsar vapor]

True
I'm looking at it through my anti-skill build
Just denied the opposing team to deploy skills
With my perfectly calculated and perfectly skilled

I'm spamming

Although
It's only useful when the opposing team is running skill builds

Again?

@fast geyser

[golden ermine]

Cope

[wet badger]

Platform diff, mortar players on PC main Hazard but some use ExpRes like me, jammers are good yes but a good defensive mortar holding a tactical position is almost impossible to deal with unless you have a proper 4 stack yourself. I refer to DZ. Conflict mortar is just aid's since u can't spawn elsewhere or change build due to combat lock

[golden ermine]

I emp grenade mortar, works well unless they are close enough to pick it up.

[ruby snow]

is conflict dead? i was in a queue for hours and couldn't find a conflict game, ive yet to even try the mode yet

i would love to do pvp but this dang game is dead and dark zone is not scary as there is Nobody there like at all

[pulsar vapor]

It's the week day
It's bound to some dip in online activity

[ruby snow]

nah

been at this for a while

finally found someone in dark zone though that was cool

[pale tundra]

On PC it's hit and miss, 4 stacks and cheaters kill conflict pretty fast. DZ has been dead for awhile, people tend to avoid it for the most part.

[ruby snow]

so silly because it's very fun

[ruby snow]

so nobody pvps? and i need a 4 stack to get into a conflict?

[pale tundra]

You can solo queue conflict, but it takes awhile.

[ruby snow]

was in queue for hours and it hadnt worked :(

[pale tundra]

Must be the time of day or you got a bugged queue

[wet badger]

Probably a bugged queue, games dying but u should find a conflict match any time of day in a few minutes, if it seems to take too long it doesn't hurt to back out and try again, or roll the DZ and see if u find someone, it doesn't hurt to use random matchmaking from a DZ checkpoint, often times you'll land right in front of an ongoing fight or group waiting for someone with balls to show up

[half compass]

Are conflict matches region based or do they matchmake from a global pool?

[pulsar vapor]

Global pool

There are time I end up in a match that's in Europe

[sonic shadow]

5 premades in DZ with full +26-+30% expertise Bighorn builds strafing and running around seems like a good time investment option lmao without any PvP, damn

[timber salmon]

Apollo

[undone gate]

How much time is bleed duration on another player if they dont have any hazpro beside the 10% from watch

And assuming i dont have any status on my build

[limber cedar]

4 to 5 seconds and like only few thousand of dmg (below than 10,000 of bleed dmg)

[craggy trench]

(Status effect duration time) x (1- hazard protection)

[undone gate]

Ty for answering guys!

I just have one more question, i love pvp.. i was a pvp player.. but stayed months outside dz..

And i really dont like use cheats, so can any1 recomend any settings or any video to configure the ps5 normal dualsense?

To play legit, just to ajust the settings and change the layout

[golden ermine]

Max every setting

Lower deadzone

[undone gate]

In the game is everything with max sensibility, but i never changed any dualsense config

[golden ermine]

Hold to sprint if you have a paddle and armor kit on another back paddle

Idk if dualsense has paddles

[undone gate]

Is the normal one, the normal one dont have

[golden ermine]

Rip

[wet badger]

When my controller needed buttons I bought a soldering iron, looked up the board schematics and drilled my own holes, connected some buttons, glue and plastic tabs, and there I had paddles.

[craggy trench]

when i was on roller i used L1 for sprinting, R3 for left skill, had the buttons swapped

makes it easier to cut strafe

[vocal raft]

Anyone know why my nemesis keeps auto shooting?

[craggy trench]

rule 6

[vocal raft]

Not auto firing like smg more like someone pressing RT every 7 seconds, maybe sticky trigger

[kind lotus]

contact xbox or get a new remote

[half compass]

Seems like a controller issue, does this happen on other games?

[wet badger]

There's a bug in the game that makes u auto fire, go to menu and back out, if it persists it could be a hardware issue, check other games or situations where the RT does something and monitor if it feels pressed down.

[mossy solstice]

Might be a trigger issue. Could also be a bad controller firmware update. To test for a bad trigger I'd say just load up any racing game and gradually pull the trigger to see if that works. If it functions fine then idk

Could be the menu bug as stated

[pale tundra]

Welcome to PVP, they won't get banned.

[reef sundial]

First

In the second vid, his clanmate

Yesterday evening

[lavish basin]

@reef sundial this is not the place for reporting cheaters - see #rules 12.

Use the official reporting process, there's nothing we can do here anyway.

[reef sundial]

I'm doing it.

[vocal raft]

Small player base

[sinful grotto]

I think we all can predict what will happen after he does

Or lack there of

[amber ice]

@proven karma No self promo.

[golden ermine]

Got killed by a full auto nem

Good job to the devs

Hope you guys are proud of the work yall put into the game

[vocal raft]

How are they supposed to fix a lagswitch problem?

They ban they lose 20% of the remaining players that still play thus garbage

[golden ermine]

1v1?

[vocal raft]

Forr?

[golden ermine]

Just was bored

[meager swift]

@vocal raft whats left of the cheaters will go to Arc Raiders , it uses Easyantishit so they can have fun over there

[mossy solstice]

Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) = Eyes Always Closed

[inland tusk]

Lucky that console players can turn crossplay off

[pulsar vapor]

Redline overdrive
Chat were so cooked

[tawdry pier]

Whuh

[floral hearth]

At least we have something fresh for PVP bro.

PVP community is not eating since Tech Overdrive

They're doing those event to farm some DZ score and I understand this is not an event for Manhunts records but only for easy kills and die

You get 2 or 5 kills then die. Repeat

[inland tusk]

They can't kill me if I am not playing the game

[tawdry pier]

Headshot builds gonna take a fat L with this modifier

Gonna have to pick up my crit reg build from the stash now

85% chc is crazy work

[mossy solstice]

Great 💀

[floral hearth]

Its only for 3 days bro

[amber ice]

Don't worry, people just like the drama.

[floral hearth]

But yeah, it's going to be a Call Of Duty type mode

[pulsar vapor]

It'll either create a spike in activity or a dip

[mossy solstice]

I don't see myself playing PVP on this game for a long while. Not seriously anyways lmao

The event just fed me more reason not to. Free crits for zero work is scary when it's in pvp. The free skills event was like walking thru a Vietnam mind field

[golden ermine]

Lol

Ive been on the finals mostly or relegated myself to grah and hs regen 1vs

[mossy solstice]

Better hope your bighorn 1v doesn't activate sport mode and run away. Sport mode is gonna be meta for mOvEmEnT DeMonZ

And Regen runners 🤣

[golden ermine]

What that?

[amber ice]

If you can't handle an Agent wearing crocs in the DZ, that is your issue.

[mossy solstice]

Well, the issue is, we've all been chasing after the .025% drop chances in DZ that we would quite literally kill you just for your Crocs

I'm tired, boss...

+2 years farming DZ and all I got to show for it was 1 ravvy and 1 bighorn 😓

[golden ermine]

Nvm, i see it

[mossy solstice]

Bonk builds in sport mode would go so crazy

[golden ermine]

Ngl. I think finisher is still better

[mossy solstice]

I run TDI with finisher 🤝 Orbit cooks and all but TDI is a real chef. Giving you the same talent, Orbit being negligibly better, and +1 skill tier. What you got to lose?

[golden ermine]

I swap between kard with finisher and firewall shotty depending on the server

[mossy solstice]

I never use firewall shotty. What's that all about?

I remember talent doing some form of amp damage but only to flaming targets I think

[golden ermine]

Nerfs fire res by 50%

I run fire sticky with it on my hs regen build

[mossy solstice]

AH so they burn for longer

[golden ermine]

I dont like using foam

[mossy solstice]

Not a bad idea tbh

I'm a Crit kiddie but can mostly hold my own with HS

[golden ermine]

If they have a haz build at 100%, i can apply burn which is more the idea

[mossy solstice]

I run defender and booster hive

Mainly bc I go full Regen and headshot. The frowned upon one

[floral hearth]

Yeah, as I said its an event for free kills. It wont require skill but HEY ! At least we got something fresh for 3 days mate

[amber ice]

@timber salmon Abnsolutely not.

[sinful grotto]

Has it even been confirmed whether or not that event will even be active in PvP modes?

[tawdry pier]

The last one was

[mossy solstice]

The last one was so we can only assume based off last time

[pulsar vapor]

Hopefully not
But more then likely it will

Oh well
Time to add more armor to my sniper build

[floral hearth]

FAMAS meta

• "the event"

[craggy trench]

Wait till this guy finds out about Lexington!

[modern gull]

holy shit why did no one tell me about a groll matador in countdown vendor?

been looking for this thing for literal months

[tawdry pier]

This is in the countdown vendor??

I don't see how no one is talking about it

[modern gull]

ye it's in the countdown vendor

[zenith lily]

the mini warhounds can also drop Matador, at least I got 1 🙂

[craggy trench]

W

[craggy trench]

Oh interesting that's probably not intended lol

[zenith lily]

I won't complain 🤣

[craggy trench]

Right

[modern gull]

they drop pvp items

i’ve gotten several rock n rolls from them

[zenith lily]

the only one I haven't got yet is the Caretaker 🤷‍♂️

[urban aurora]

Yup, they can drop any DZ exclusive item

[floral hearth]

Yeah, it also dropped me a god rolled The Gift on Normal difficult

[sinful grotto]

I think they can drop every named item in the game my friend got double armor regen emperors guards from them

[distant fable]

That’s weird, my vendor shows the orbit pistol instead of the matador bp, wtf?

[urban aurora]

Same

[modern gull]

is the shroud the new best sniper for pvp or no?

[floral hearth]

No

[modern gull]

finally
meta™

[crude path]

Do I need DLC for pvp

[crude path]

Do I need DLC for pvp

[modern gull]

no

but you do need dlc for shd watch

which unlocks the majority of of the brackets for pvp

i’d recommend the dlcs anyway

[empty valley]

didn't they make lv 40 and the watch free in y6?

[lavish basin]

Yes.
WONY skills (traps, stickies, decoy) are used in PVP afaik.

[empty valley]

good point, ill delete my last comment

[modern gull]

oh i didn’t know this

[timber salmon]

Hola brod

[floral hearth]

Explosive Anti-meta

208% CD
61,1% CHC
(Is not fully optimized)

[craggy trench]

Why building for total armor?

[floral hearth]

Because the event. Everyone has extra damage this weekend

[craggy trench]

How's that been so far? I haven't played yet

[floral hearth]

There's an active event From 24 to 27 oct that gives you extra damage

+50% Critical Hit Damage
+25% Critical Hit Chance
+25% Critical Hit Chance Cap
+25% Magazine Size
+25% Reload Speed

Its actually fun but people loves to complaing for fresh things

The build I'm sharing it's for the event. Ravenous is not meta

I'll try an Eagle Bearer or Hybrid capacitor with heals later

[craggy trench]

I know about it, just haven't ran it yet

[mossy solstice]

Moderator

@sullen oracle help they're attacking us with images 🙏

[magic urchin]

Finally some good RnG😂

[modern gull]

how exactly do you deal with shields with a headshot build?

sticky bomb? shotguns with brazen? what should you do?

[golden ermine]

Shoot their head

[golden ermine]

Either of those work, or just run up on them and shoulder swap/barrel stuff to shoot around shield via desync

[modern gull]

if you're using shotgun with brazen which shotgun? double barrel or m870?

[craggy trench]

Thorn is the highest dmg but terrible accuracy

I'd go m870

[fossil portal]

How’d you get that 👀

[amber ice]

@fossil portal The tiny hounds drop DZ-locked items.
farm them whilst you can!

[magic urchin]

From a reconstructed cache but was trying to farm one from the warhounds, now i dont have to lol

[fossil portal]

Thank youuuuu

[lilac patio]

can u tell me the best builds at conflict right now im new in the game

[modern gull]

usually umbra capacitor, iron lung, or pestilence

[lilac patio]

could u tell me the pestilence build?

[craggy trench]

Umbra or 3 lengmo

[whole mesa]

For starters you need the pestilence exotic lmg, then you would have to get to endgame to be able to collect the mentioned gear above

[craggy trench]

Is he not lvl 40??

[whole mesa]

He said he’s new so I dunno if he is lvl 40 yet

[craggy trench]

yes sir

just played NBS lol

[mossy solstice]

No Ceska?

For first build. For second I know why

[polar trail]

Had this on my list forever to mess around with in conflict, still viable or should I scrap/edit?

[golden ermine]

Better in the dz for close range fights

Most conflict players just gonna run high dps and fry you

[polar trail]

so in theory you'd want two-three more red cores?

[mossy solstice]

No. Because explain how you're gonna keep your striker stacks

The only enemies you'll have to shoot won't be ones dumb enough to stand in the open and not shoot back

Striker bighorn however can hold up if you aren't the only main focus of your team in conflict. Just need to be careful what fights you take

[lilac cosmos]

I was in a conflict match where a guy was firing his pistol up in the air at the spawn through the whole skirmish. What gives?

[lavish basin]

Probably just afk farming the conflict xp event

[lilac cosmos]

Do i report him? I got pissed off. 4v3 match then

[mossy solstice]

It won't do anything. There's loads of afk farmers. Just have to either deal with it or leave (wish this wasn't the case but it's all we can do)

[craggy trench]

For conflict you need ceska, for dz no

[craggy trench]

Solid in dz, like south stairs

[inland tusk]

Or just don't play div2

[mossy solstice]

Correct that's what I've basically been doing this whole time. I just can't explicitly state that due to me having targets on my back

[lilac cosmos]

Well my problem is that I want to play the game. I don't mind farmers as long as they don't ruin the experience for others. The grind in this game can be insane.

[inland tusk]

Everyone moving to arc or bf6 soo div2 pvp will be even more ded soo

[lilac cosmos]

Arc will be my guilty pleasure instead of helldivers but im not leaving division 👍

[inland tusk]

Arc scratches the dz itch, definitely div2 getting deleted

[amber ice]

At this point, I'm getting "GTA killer" vibes from discussions about competitors.

see "the day before" for full details.

[modern gull]

me when super unicorn chest piece

[craggy trench]

I got one at shd 30 on pc

Super rng

[lilac patio]

any suggestions bighorn tank build?

[craggy trench]

There's 3 main versions

Memento, intimidate, everyday carrier

memento- 3 gila, belstone, emperors, memento

hunter killer- 2 golan, belstone, matador, catharsis, emperors

standard - 3 gila, matador, catharsis, belstone

[lilac patio]

PVP

[craggy trench]

Yea.... they are all for pvp, this is the pvp chat

[golden ermine]

Bro said

Give me the PvP one

[polar trail]

yeah I got tha piece and a ceska/grupo piece excactly like it

[polar trail]

I'm a noob pvp build maker so don't mind me. I'm just trying to get into it a bit more.
What I was looking for was something to use chatterbox with I think originally.

But yeah I completely get what youu're saying... building stacks in conflict would be impossible damn near.
DZ it may work some just because you'll be able to build some stacks on the PVE enemies.

[abstract vault]

I see a ravenous meta coming soon, the fact that the primers can 1 shot any build is abit silly, not only that it’s got built in survivability

[craggy trench]

This is an English discord

[red arrow]

sad, he bent you like a pretzel

[lilac patio]

do they fix the issue with cheaters at conflict i saw kamikaze told that everyone who is cheting now get banned is it true?

[red arrow]

yes, even better, besides banning the cheaters, they also banned some of those who didn't use cheats(they thought about the future, you were probably planning to cheat)

This is teamwork at 110% efficiency.

[kind lotus]

Rule 12 - No naming and shaming. use the proper channels to report this type of conduct. #unofficial-troubleshooting has links.

[golden ermine]

Always been like that, I think bonus armor disables it or something, might be super outdated tho

[golden ermine]

Folded like a lawn chair?

[red arrow]

more like a pretzel

[craggy trench]

@sterile grove please put the reg away I suck against it

[halcyon steppe]

@kind lotus How can you eradicate a plague if everyone turns a blind eye? And I didn't mention any usernames at all, so your rule 12 is worthless in this context.

[kind lotus]

they didnt have tags on the video!?
use the proper channels...

[craggy trench]

GG

[sinful grotto]

Still got this auto nemmy bs going on bruh

[golden ermine]

Lol

[sinful grotto]

I thought they did bans bro

[tawdry pier]

to popular streamers or people who didn't open the game for two years

[sinful grotto]

Why am I not surprised

[golden ermine]

Think they abuse lagswitch to glitch nemy, and ls is hard to detect/fix so prob gonna stay like this

[tawdry pier]

i would lowkey blow my shit smoove off next time i see a lagger

[sinful grotto]

I was doing a conflict match I got two on the same team bro

Honestly insane

[golden ermine]

I rarely get lagswitched even by people who are known for it, got killed by full auto nem once

[sinful grotto]

Lucky you that bs on Xbox is rampant

[tawdry pier]

i fight every lagswitcher i dont make friends with them

[golden ermine]

Im mainly on xbox

[sinful grotto]

Wow really lucky then

I haven’t gotten one in a minute till now

[craggy trench]

cross my fingers havent had a cheater other than one tinkerer idiot

[sinful grotto]

I just leave the game idc about being called a loser for not wanting to fight a cheating lol

[craggy trench]

last few days

[tawdry pier]

i mean it more as if i see an opportunity to kill them then leave server i would totally do it

i'm not consistently fighting an uphill battle

[sinful grotto]

I haven’t gotten a tinker exploiter since it got “patched”

[craggy trench]

literally last game i had it

[tawdry pier]

they don't know how to do it
it's still broken

[craggy trench]

so obvious too because hes shooting at knee level lol

[sinful grotto]

They don’t patch anything they just say they do lmao

[tawdry pier]

mind you it was like the 4th fix of tinkerer

they don't know shit about why this exotic is broken

[golden ermine]

Console players dont know how to do the tinkerer glitch now thank god

[sinful grotto]

I haven’t seen it on console idk about pc

I’m not the type of guy to call another man’s job easy but Jesus Christ it can’t be that hard to fix a glitch bro

[craggy trench]

im on pc

[sinful grotto]

I’ll be honest idk how people play div on anything but a console cheating is so bad over there

[craggy trench]

havent ran into a cheater at all in awhile

ive played the last 3 days, nothing

[sinful grotto]

Maybe they did fix something then lol

[craggy trench]

@iron topaz yooo

[iron topaz]

Sup?

[inland tusk]

If enemy team have tardi,ravy sometimes don't 1 shot

[glossy raven]

Please can anyone play pvp with me. I hate playing solo with no team.

[tawdry pier]

Try gcrock server it has a ps pvp lfg channel

[versed geode]

Massive are recruiting for a Lead PvP Game Designer to focus on the pvp side of The Division 2.

Interesting

https://jobs.smartrecruiters.com/Ubisoft2/744000090774517-lead-pvp-game-designer-tom-clancy-s-the-division-2-

[tawdry pier]

hi i would like to apply i have like 1k hours in pvp and uhhhhhhhhhhh

PLEASE LET ME WORK I NEED THIS

last part is so funny

[mossy solstice]

SHD 100 I still consider those types of players "newborns"

I've got like 2k total hours, 17k SHD, basically everything in the game. Should I apply?

[tawdry pier]

i would definitely apply as a playtester if they're serious about it

let me in on the latest game breaking weapons/gearsets

[mossy solstice]

Let me in so I can keep the damn team on track and fix this shit show of a mode for all of us players

Nearly 6 years is far too long for the lack of cheater bans as well as the major lack of balancing

[tawdry pier]

yeah literally one half of survivors is going to be DOA if the cheats are staying

imagine a popular youtuber on streams does a survivors run and the moment they drop in they insta die from a player across the map

or just enters the dz and gets insta beamed by an auto m700

[mossy solstice]

I'd fix DZ/Conflict by making watch bonuses apply. Essentially, doesn't matter what level you are. Bonuses will apply. Gear still matters of course. I'd remove expertise from DZ and have it apply to only Invaded DZ. I'd also have the SHD turrets work during Invaded DZ, basically like Division 1. Conflict, no expertise, just as it is right now. I would maybe implement a group-based matchmaking system. DZ can now allow fully solo experiences. Multi grouping will then transfer you to a duo instance. If trio, then trio, and so on. Goes up to squads. Will have the ability to solo queue into grouped modes as well, entirely optional. I'd also set security systems in place to prevent friends from queuing into your solo matches. Even if removing from friends list

I would also implement an expertise based player grouping system. Basically what I mean is low expertise players won't matchmake for high expertise. It's to keep things fair

[tawdry pier]

game's too dead to split players imo just normalise everyone like you said and let gankers be gankers better than literally not finding anyone

[mossy solstice]

I mean, systems like this already exist. The SHD bracket system

I'd remove that and instead implement the expertise system

You'll still have splitting of players regardless. It's to keep the main core of divisions pvp space but also implementing balances without so much as just a giant griefing sandbox

[tawdry pier]

imo expertise is just shortening/lengthens ttk so removing it and basing everyone on a single scale is better

i personally use a fully 30 expertised build and can affirm that it is simply just not fair to have a 3 core attribute advantage over someone with the same build

[mossy solstice]

The main issue with removing it is the players who put the work in for years to max it out. Especially those who did it for PvP. They would essentially be told their time means nothing for doing so

[tawdry pier]

they already did it in conflict which is in their view 50% of pvp in the game

[mossy solstice]

Keeping it only in Invaded DZs basically means you're signing up for a harder time by going into one

[mossy solstice]

At this rate it honestly is. I find more in conflict than I do in DZ now

DZ has been dead ASF. I find maybe one soul in a 3 hour span

[tawdry pier]

true and imo conflict just doesn't do it for me unless im in a 4 stack doing something

[mossy solstice]

I play conflict now because I'm tired of the same double group cheater clowns that run around in US East servers. It's always the same people, same groups, same old individuals that show up and ruin the experience. Can't even touch DZ without it being either dead or you're being flagged on by like 6 people all multi grouping

Or worse, just a random Chinese rage cheater clearing DZ out speeding thru the streets aimbotting you thru walls

[tawdry pier]

that latter experience has been also mine on australian servers in dz

no better way to beat a cheater than to not play their game

i kinda get a lucky kill on one and leave if they afk or something

[mossy solstice]

That's basically what it's resorted to for me. I simply stopped playing. I'll hop on, try my luck for 1 or 2 games, that's it. I jump into dz, I give it a max of 10 minutes. If I find nobody, I just log off

I truly do miss division because no other game scratches the itch that division can. But I truly don't miss the issues surrounding division currently

[tawdry pier]

maybe arc raiders can do it for you

heard some stuff about it but personally i'm financially and timely required elsewhere

[mossy solstice]

It both looks good and sounds good. I'm too occupied working as well to even spend that much time on it. Most of my time has been spent playing single player games that have a pause function and a save function. Division is both those but well, it's not an offline game lmao. Hardly ever home

I have been playing an offline mod client for COD: MWIII and changing settings to make it feel like division (3rd person, armor kits, low base health) and it's been managing my itch

[tawdry pier]

thinking of replaying dying light for the umpteenth time cause i'm obsessed with it

[mossy solstice]

Loaded up Watch Dogs 2 yesterday. Might hop on that. A new division skill would be cool as hell. I'd like to see a new healing skill. Maybe a healer turret or a new pulse skill applying an electric clouded area shocking enemies

[tawdry pier]

reviver sticky when

[mossy solstice]

I actually thought about that too 😂 it would work tbh

A booster chem might be interesting as well

[craggy trench]

I was playing you

[lilac patio]

is there any bug at bighorn at conflict?

i see many cheaters use this weapon

[craggy trench]

Tinkerer exploit

[golden ermine]

I have about 6k on console and 200 on pc

Hours

[golden ermine]

No

[golden ermine]

I spoke too soon, went against a lagswitcher after i said that

[craggy trench]

He's played a couple hours on div 2 (top game)

[golden ermine]

Imagine how the room smells

[golden ermine]

Actually, pretty sure he just leaves his game running or something

[golden ermine]

Bonus armor chem

[craggy trench]

It's a glitch or something

490k hours isn't even possible

[golden ermine]

Bro

I read 49 k

[craggy trench]

491,364

[golden ermine]

Ye

[limber cedar]

Bro, team revival boost on team elimination mode should be illegal 🤦‍♂️

[craggy trench]

Birdies?

[limber cedar]

No, today I discovered that if you are the last player alive and the boost is active there is a chance to be a full team respawn boost.

[craggy trench]

Oh!

[limber cedar]

And a lot of plp use pestilence for kill confirmation to prevent down players from being revived.

[craggy trench]

I think I've seen that once. Barely play that mode

[craggy trench]

Yea I used to, I'm on my BH grind rn

[sinful grotto]

How yall feel about the team hiring a new lead PvP guy

[craggy trench]

Hopeful

[sinful grotto]

Hope the listing gets filled soon

And also hire the right guy ofc

[mossy solstice]

I'm cautious but optimistic. Truthfully a bit doubtful as well

I think they can fix things. PvP needs it. Im just doubtful it'll be in a reasonable amount of time

[abstract vault]

Nah it doesn’t tested it yesterday

[abstract vault]

I got1 shot by my mate with a thrown together build with syscor procd up, his stats were far from minmaxed his under 500 watch

[inland tusk]

My ravy is ninja with umbra,eagle gloves and rifle dmg gearset

@abstract vault

[iron topaz]

So what are the Conflict meta builds these days?

[craggy trench]

tbh ive been playing with the umbra lmg and lengmo lmg with the guns swapped

so pesti on umbra and iron lung on lengmo

[iron topaz]

That Capaciter build looks fun

I do have a Big Horn and was killed by it so much yesterday I was thinking I need to pull it out lol

[abstract vault]

meta builds hurt

umbra is so braindead its not funny, other then one shotting or statusing there is no counter play

[indigo umbra]

what's the difference in the 2 Big Horn builds? 1 looks like it's armor regen with 3 gila right? what about the 2 golan, 1 belston, 1 walker and harris and i assume named murakami?

intersting, thought Overdogs would've been a PvP thing too 🤔

[tawdry pier]

it doens't work

[indigo umbra]

ah, probably would've broken if it did eh?

[tawdry pier]

You'd find people running to ads so you aggro them and it disables the amp LMAOO

[golden ermine]

Normal capacitor ninja fire sticky counters umbra imo

[abstract vault]

Yeah like I said status

[golden ermine]

I mean, mainly using your gun and stagger

The fire is just a bonus

[abstract vault]

The fire is the reason you win, without it you just loose into umbra ROF vs no ROF

[golden ermine]

Nope

Stagger is the reason you win, you stagger them out of cover and kill, you can use emp sticky or explosive seekers for the same effect

[glossy raven]

Is conflict broken cuz I always get put on the losing team every single time I play.

[craggy trench]

One is intimidate one is everyday carrier

Since intimidate has a "forced" Golan piece with Hunter Killer it's more optimal to shift brands around

[craggy trench]

I counter them pretty well with BH, none of these bots use sticky

[tawdry pier]

Backfilling you mean?

[glossy raven]

What's that

[tawdry pier]

When you join a match in the middle of it and usually you're on the losing side

[abstract vault]

I mean sure you’ll win a fight here and there with a bighorn but 7/10 they are winning, especially if they have half a brain and can aim, umbra into capacitor gives so much multiplicative damage on top of the chd and rof

[craggy trench]

It doesn't give any multiplicative dmg

[abstract vault]

I hate to be that guy but if you were casing a clone of yourself on and umbra cap and a bh the umbra is winning every time

Capacitor gives multiplicative what are you talking about?

[craggy trench]

If the umbra player isn't focused on skills I usually win.

[craggy trench]

Explain please

[abstract vault]

DtoC and DtA????

[craggy trench]

You mean multiplicative to other stats, which is the same as chd and headshot

[abstract vault]

That’s what I said…

[golden ermine]

Factual

[craggy trench]

Headshot is multiplicative following your logic

[golden ermine]

No, dta is and dtooc

[craggy trench]

It's the exact same in the dmg formula, I just posted it

[abstract vault]

You have rocks for brains, I’d hate to see what people you fight…

[craggy trench]

Why are you resulting to insults lol

[golden ermine]

Yoooo that is wild

[craggy trench]

You are using the wrong terminology I'm trying to correct you

[abstract vault]

I’m just stating a fact no need to take it personally lmfao

[craggy trench]

Notice how all the stats multiply together?

[abstract vault]

Bro I just said capacitor gives multiplicative damage stats

[golden ermine]

No, dta is multiplicative and is on capacitor, pretty sure hes right unless im missing something

[abstract vault]

And you’ve wondered into the woods on a different wavelength

[craggy trench]

Every damage stat is multiplicative

Weapon damage x headshot damage x DTA etc

[golden ermine]

That isnt what makes it multiplicative

[craggy trench]

What does?

[abstract vault]

Yikies

[golden ermine]

You calculate all stats, then multiple by dta and dtooc

[craggy trench]

I just posted the formula above lol

[lavish basin]

I think the relevant bit of info here is 'you don't have any other sources of dta or dtooc on this build so they act as a multiplier'.
If you had other sources, they'd be additive with those sources.

[craggy trench]

They all multiply together as you can see

[golden ermine]

Idk how to explain this

[abstract vault]

You are interpreting the formula wrong

[craggy trench]

Dtooc and dta are only valuable because we can't stack as much of it

It's effectively the exact same in function as crit

So saying it's multiplicative because we don't have a large source of it is just the wrong terminology

[abstract vault]

Except it’s not, because the multiplication happens after crit

[craggy trench]

It does not matter the order in which you multiply it's the same outcome lol

[abstract vault]

Uh oh

He really does have rocks for brains

[craggy trench]

You can multiply DTA and then crit

[golden ermine]

Base weap dam is multiplied everywhere, total weap dam is multiplied with multiplicative

[craggy trench]

2 x 3 is 6
3 x 2 is 6

[abstract vault]

Mb bro I didn’t mean to do this to you, now I just feel bad

[craggy trench]

What does that even mean

[craggy trench]

You can do multiplication in any order this is first grade level math

[golden ermine]

Bruhhh you are wrong but im at work and idk how to explain

[craggy trench]

I'm also at work, struggling to explain to you

[lavish basin]

reflexz is actually right, y'know...

[abstract vault]

Where did you go to school bro? Did you get picked up by a mini bus?

[golden ermine]

The math is right but i think you are interpreting the formula wrong

[craggy trench]

They aren't gonna get it.

[golden ermine]

It is widely known 10% dta ≠ 10% crit

[abstract vault]

Everything up until the chd+hsd is calculated first then the rest follows essentially multiplying

[lavish basin]

because crit is additive with other crit (and hsd) and dta is additive with other dta

[craggy trench]

Yes exactly because we have more crit

That's dimishing returns not because it's multiplicative, if you have ONLY 10% headshot and 10% DTA it's effectively the same

basic DPS equation is:
Base Bullet damage x WD x TWD x (CHD+HSD) x DTOOC x (DTA or DTH) x Amp 1 x amp 2…..

You can multiply this in any order it's the same outcome

[golden ermine]

Wheres nomous when you need him;(

[abstract vault]

Brother is Christ, you went for a jungle walk when you coulda just walked in a park, because the build has one source of dta and Dtoc they are a multiplicative source, so when you said where does capacitor have it, it’s on the gun clear as day

[craggy trench]

It doesn't have one source of dta though lol

[abstract vault]

I don’t care about the formula I’m saying that the umbra build has more multiplicative sources then a bh build

[craggy trench]

I didn't say capacitor doesn't have DTA, I said it's not multiplicative

[golden ermine]

Back to work, ill see the outcome of this when i come back

[craggy trench]

Intimidate is multiplicative, it self multiplies each stack

42% amp not 36% like the talent reads, because each 4% stack multiplies with the next

If you have 10% dtooc from you gun and 8 from foxes it's 18% not 18.8% because it's additive

[abstract vault]

Yeah because it’s the same stat therefore it’s additive with itself but capacitor gives multiplicative multiplicative damage like I’ve been saying the whole time because it would have dta and Dtoc

[craggy trench]

"Multiplicative" is a word YouTubers like to use to sound smart even though they have no idea how the game actually works

[craggy trench]

Crit and weapon damage multiply is that multiplicative?

You aren't wrong in your thinking, umbra is more dmg that's not what I'm arguing

It does have more damage sources, they just aren't "multiplicative"

Saying that implies everything else isn't, which is wrong

[abstract vault]

Look you are right in your own way but again I don’t think you understand as to why the terms are used the way they are

[craggy trench]

People that understand the formula don't use the term "multiplicative" it's misleading

Notice how it's not in the spreadsheet at all?

Unique source of damage would be an accurate way to describe a single source of DTA or dtooc

[abstract vault]

The term “additive” defines crit and headshot being additive with each other and “multiplicative” is how Dtoc and dta are multiplied with each other

Now yes everything in the end is multiplied

But Dtoc and dta are multiplied on their own

[craggy trench]

They are all additive to themselves and multiply together hsd+crit is the only exception to that

[abstract vault]

Anything in brackets is additive the rest is multiplicative but multiplicative = DtoC and DtA as they are multiplied as standalone stats

Amps are multiplicative

[craggy trench]

Yes the only case of that is headshot and crit, AWD and SWD are the same most people don't even pool them seperate

[craggy trench]

Everything is though lol

[abstract vault]

Tell me the damage sources in the game you have WD CRIT HS

This are the main types of damage sources WD needs to be multiplied by crit to do more damage to act like a crit should and same as headshot but a crit headshot is additive to each other and not multiplicative so the number you get is crit+hsd

[mint rose]

Different multipliers are often erroneously referred to as multiplicative

[abstract vault]

Throw DtoC and DtA in now they multiply with Crit+hs

[mint rose]

As prod said all different damage types are multiplicative

And if it's unique then it's an amp

[abstract vault]

Correct so does capacitor have inherent multiplicative damage stats

Due to having DtA and DtoC

[craggy trench]

Yea because it has WD 🤣

[mint rose]

Depends entirely on if you're running other sources of dttooc and dta

[craggy trench]

All damage stats are multiplicative

They all multiply with other sources (headshot+ crit)

[abstract vault]

Umbra build only source of dta Dtoc come from capacitor

[craggy trench]

Wrong😭

[abstract vault]

Does capacitor have multiplicative damage stats yes or no?

[craggy trench]

Yes, it has WD

[twilit drift]

Yo I am new does anyone wanna help me btw Ik there is an lfg channel but its empty rn

[craggy trench]

Capacitor has unique damage sources ✅

chc = 100%
chd = 50%
dtoc = 25%
base = 10,000

base * (1 + chd) * (1 + dtoc) = 10,000 * (1 + 0.5) * (1 + 0.25) = 18,750
base * (1 + dtoc) * (1 + chd) = 10,000 * (1 + 0.25) * (1 + 0.5) = 18,750

Look you can multiply in any order😁.

PEMDAS helped me learn

[abstract vault]

My brain is about to implode… this is not what was asked to begin with like I said you went for a jungle hike instead of a stroll in the park

[craggy trench]

^

Instead of explaining you immediately jumped to insulting me, I asked you to explain so I can help show you why your logic is off. If you need a second to cooldown you should take it

I understand math can be frustrating when you don't fully understand

[abstract vault]

You wanted to go all Einstein on a topic that has been around for years… a simple yes capacitor had two stats that multiply with them selves essentially being multiplicative stats would’ve sufficed

[craggy trench]

They don't multiply with themselves....

[abstract vault]

I’m sure in the formula YOU posted it’s dtaxdtoc

[craggy trench]

There's only 1 formula😭

[abstract vault]

Yes the one you posted…

[craggy trench]

Yep you got me

It's been the same for years. Keep trying though!

[abstract vault]

That’s what I said

[craggy trench]

So what are you trying to imply here

[abstract vault]

That they are multiplicative stats…

[craggy trench]

Correct they all are

[abstract vault]

But it was you that said it wasn’t

[craggy trench]

So is total weapon damage, weapon damage, headshot+crit etc

Glass cannon, hunters fury, strikers it's all multiplicative

[abstract vault]

Yeah but I’ve been talking about dta and Dtoc the whole time

[craggy trench]

Which functions the same as every other stat

[abstract vault]

No one asked about other stats homie

I mentioned capacitor with dta and Dtoc and how it’s multiplicative

A simple yes would’ve sufficed

[craggy trench]

Which is a misleading term, because everything is multiplicative

That's why we don't use it

[abstract vault]

No one asked about anything else though

[craggy trench]

Yea you don't have to, that's how conversations work. You say something then I say something

It's directly connected to the conversation I'm gonna bring it up lol

[abstract vault]

Right but you said that it wasnt multiplicative

[craggy trench]

Because people use the term multiplicative incorrectly

[abstract vault]

Is dta and Dtoc multiplied?

[craggy trench]

Intimidate and hunters fury are multiplicative by definition, DTA and dtooc and most other sources are not

[lavish basin]

Everything is multiplicative and everything except amps is additive.

Just depends which piece of the equation you're looking at

[abstract vault]

Right but guys I’m talking about a capacitor with dta and Dtoc are those stats not multiplicative?

[craggy trench]

If you are talking about with other sources everything is multiplicative, if you are talking about damage sources with more than 1 source then most are additive besides a small few

[craggy trench]

That's a yes and no answer that's why we don't use the term multiplicative lol

[abstract vault]

So I’ll refer to the equation, they get multiplied

[craggy trench]

Yes DTA and DTOOC multiply with each other, so does every other damage source.

No DTA and DTOOC do not multiple with themselves

[abstract vault]

Yes but I’m not talking about other damage stats for the 30th time

[craggy trench]

The term multiplicative when used correctly refers to the later

[abstract vault]

I’m talking about dta and Dtoc

[craggy trench]

Multiplicative - each source of a singular type of damage multiplies with each other

Examples for this are hunters fury and intimidate as well as old strikers

[abstract vault]

If there is 0 damage then dta and Dtoc is a wasted stat I get that but no build had 0 damage unless you are using cooler but in the terms of the umbra build with dta and dtoc on the capacitor they get multiplied hence why the term multiplicative is used

No one cares if it’s right or wrong it’s the terminology used

[craggy trench]

If there is 0 damage all stats are wasted

If you have only 10 headshot on a build and you have another build with only 10 dtooc they have the same damage

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u1P8AOlF9KypeQfro8OElysTzTDWf2jdj34J8YlAF4M/edit?usp=drivesdk

Exact same

Even added dtooc x dta and WD x headshot, exactly the same

[mortal badge]

If your running capacitor with dtooc and dta, foxes knees and contractors gloves, how do those interact? That's the whole point that's being made here

[golden ermine]

Did average win?

[craggy trench]

I always win 🥇

Think I won as soon as I was insulted

[sinful grotto]

The ravy meta is back🥺

[inland tusk]

Nah i uninstalled long ago,i am on arc now

[sinful grotto]

💔

[golden ermine]

Rip

[abstract vault]

He’s right with everything be multiplied yes, but he missed the whole point of the initial statement and how dta and Dtoc being multiplied on there own. Dta is additive with dta, and the same with Dtoc. The word multiplicative is used because the stats are multiplied on their own as a whole and not grouped in like chd+hs

So the statement being is capacitor giving me “multiplicative” stats being the only source of dta and Dtoc would be correct

It was a statement made and to avoid this whole thing a simple in short, yes would’ve sufficed and we could’ve moved on. Everyone knows the formula and how it works. No need to re explain known knowledge unless someone asks.

If you think you were insulted then you really must have rocks for brains, I wasn’t coming after you personally, just stating fax 😘

[craggy trench]

Again it's not the only source of DTA on the build

[craggy trench]

Right "facts"

[abstract vault]

When was any other source of dta brought up?

This is news to me

[abstract vault]

It’s starting to sound like it because there wasn’t any mention of another source of DtA

[tawdry pier]

Technically if you have a mortar teammate that would add 5% extra dtoc into your cap

[golden ermine]

Rip

[craggy trench]

Looks like it has 2 piece walker to me

Use your eyeballs

[abstract vault]

lmfao

i do use my eyes i was never referencing your build

but you like to use your legs by the looks of it lmfao

i wiped your team and you hit legs so quick

you woulda won that if you hadnt wiffed

i cant see why youd win with bh build though, whoever you kill must have missing fingers or something

ill dub you flightreflexz after that clear fight of flight response, you seen your own death and took off

[craggy trench]

i had spawn debuff lol

keep talking while you hide in spawn

talking about wiping team while they are debuffed LMAO

[abstract vault]

i was on my own... there was 4 of you

[craggy trench]

with team debuff

[abstract vault]

theres enough damage between the 4 of you surely to nuke me

[craggy trench]

yea 2 randoms with shit builds are gonna take a regen player in their spawn

[abstract vault]

one guy was running a pistol build for crying out loud

[abstract vault]

regen? i dont run regen

[craggy trench]

pve player but ok

[craggy trench]

dawg idk what you were running tbh

ur not in my head like that

GG though was a good game

[quick oasis]

I’ve read since posted at 8pm until now and I’ve learned many things in this discussion. Thank you to you both

[abstract vault]

enjoy pvp homie

[craggy trench]

Ghost mentions 👻

[fossil portal]

It’s been like this for the past 5 games… and my teamates keep telling me not to go solo…

[tawdry pier]

Which on are you
For all i know you're the one going negative 6

[fossil portal]

Oh sorry

The top one ofc

[fossil portal]

Like it’s legit a problem, I mean I just got semi carried in the game I just played (6/3) but still, 90% of the matches they place you with people that have terrible builds or game sense and the enemy is a full clan.

[golden ermine]

Id win

[craggy trench]

Partly because of the conflict xp event

[craggy trench]

Yea well I'd give you a big kiss now what

[golden ermine]

Ayo

[fossil portal]

😳

Also I’m at level 400 now cause of the conflict, it’s mad good, like 5 levels per match I think

[craggy trench]

Try doing team elim, you get over 7 million xp if you win and get first

[fossil portal]

That’s the hard part… winning, I’ve been getting first but winning is the difficult part

[craggy trench]

We can queue sometime

Then we can lose to @golden ermine together

[fossil portal]

Like 8/10 matches, also sure, but I have to go to college soon 😓

Like 30 min

[craggy trench]

Yea im not on rn. Later

[fossil portal]

Ofc ofc

[golden ermine]

Domination is better if solo, splits up the players usually

[fossil portal]

Should I use an umbra build instead of bighorn hazpro? But tbh that’s the main reason why I’ve been getting first each time, the pure survivability

And aiming on kbm for headshots is so easy

[craggy trench]

What bh build are you running

[fossil portal]

This, don’t have matador and it just seemed like a pain so I made this 😭

[tawdry pier]

Good evening

[craggy trench]

Yea that's solid

I usually switch between umbra and BH for conflict

If I'm playing against reg I like umbra because I can sticky bomb the shield or stagger them off right hand cover

BH can do the same but if Sticky is on cooldown, shield can be hard to break

[fossil portal]

I just break their ankles if they’re solo

If they’re together I usually die 😭

For shield users lol

[craggy trench]

I run efficient

I've been running explo sticky on umbra in place of decoy, stinger hive works well too in place of defender

[fossil portal]

8.3 million for first and winning, btw,

I forgot to say that earlier lol

[fossil portal]

5 skill tiers 👀, why not just run the fire sticky bomb?

Wow, ran into my first hacker, straight up just godmode, nothing with rpm or lag switching

[craggy trench]

6, explo sticky does like 3x the dmg

Fire sticky is like 200k explo is over 600k

[fossil portal]

Ohhh right picaros, I forgot about the brandset bonus

[craggy trench]

Highest I hit was 800ish almost 1 shot a reg player

[fossil portal]

👀

[craggy trench]

I do run fire sticky with iron lung, figure if I'm gonna be annoying might as well go all the way

[fossil portal]

Is there any like one shot sniper build that works in PvP?

Cause honestly I’d enjoy making that, well not making it, but playing with it

[craggy trench]

Yea there's a few

@tawdry pier

[fossil portal]

In a skirmish match, two teamates went 0/6… and we still almost beat the enemy team cause me and some other guy popped off but then it was a 2v1 against him on the end….

If you honestly can hit your shots, shotguns are so broken, I just two tapped this one guy with full blues, gila, max amount of armor you can get

[craggy trench]

Shotgun build is in the pvp guide now too

[fossil portal]

You’re telling me it can get even more broken?

[craggy trench]

Can also run zero Fs

[fossil portal]

👀

[craggy trench]

I'd probably put quickstep and lefty though, I'm gonna change it later

[fossil portal]

Would zero fs with contractors be better?

[craggy trench]

I would just swap grupo-badger. Shotgun is already low crit, and conflict has no watch bonus

[fossil portal]

It’s random? I think? Idk

[fossil portal]

^^^ yeah that too

Is this good?

[craggy trench]

You don't want fenris for shotgun

[craggy trench]

No it's based off placement, and if you win. Your score affects xp

[fossil portal]

No just like overall lol, for a red assault rifle build

[fossil portal]

Also, how did I get second?

[grand jacinth]

I love playing in PVP, one of my teammates tell me im using the worst gun for PVP
I proceeded to play against him several times and won every time placing 1st or 2nd

[craggy trench]

its alright

[craggy trench]

accolades probably

[craggy trench]

@fossil portal

[fossil portal]

Yurrr

👀

What build were you using lol

[craggy trench]

umbra

[fossil portal]

What would be the best way to get the ninja bike backpack 🙁

[craggy trench]

targeted loot

[fossil portal]

Yeah but like, summit, control point retaliations, countdown?

[craggy trench]

countdown

[fossil portal]

Alright bet

[craggy trench]

mmr build

[fossil portal]

I have maxed out picaros, maxed out walker harris piece and just the umbra chest plate, I just need the backpack and the 2 other umbra with really good roles for chd or chc

[craggy trench]

you dont have to run a ton of yellow either, it just fits my playstyle

[fossil portal]

Welp, I’m already going for it so why not lol

@craggy trench you down to just play with me on my bighorn build?

[craggy trench]

im gonna do the event stuff rn but im down later

whats your ubi

[fossil portal]

Bet, it’s GeicoTY

Also you want me to help you with your event thingie? I legit have nothing else to do rn and playing countdown for the thousandth time seems like a lot of work

[sinful grotto]

The game is evil

[abstract vault]

it seems all the pve gamers have built up the courage to jump in conflict and ruin the queues with pve builds 3 games back to back nothing but pve builds

[craggy trench]

Noticed that too

[half compass]

This is what i use but you can put in yaahl if you want pulse res. It takes a while to become good with it but it is very rewarding and broken

All cit hit chance and headshot

[fossil portal]

^^^

👀BETTTT

[fossil portal]

Wow I already basically have everything but the two exotics lol

[fossil portal]

👀

My build is better fr

[abstract vault]

im so confusion

[analog iris]

dark zone can be played and get rewards even if i enter solo there and not any other player/enemies enters? can i grind there all day and get rewards or there's rewards cap for daily?

[tawdry pier]

If you enter solo that doesn't mean other players can't enter they still do and pose a risk to you and your loot

[analog iris]

ya thats cool. but can i grind there all day and get rewards or there's rewards cap for daily?

[tawdry pier]

There is nothing of that sort you can farm however long you want

[analog iris]

does it not give some rewards which can be used directly/indirectly to increase my power?

[tawdry pier]

What is "power"

[analog iris]

anything what will increase my dps directly/indirectly

[tawdry pier]

Depends if you get that piece through rng like any other place

[analog iris]

ya i dont mind RNG drops, thats what makes game interesting

[tawdry pier]

There are black shd caches that have a chance to drop exotic components which are used for expertise which increases your weapon damage on a specific weapon

[analog iris]

cool, such drops can be dropped in DZ even if i play this mode for hours or it will be stopped dropping after playing that mode for hour or something for a day? cause some games have diminishing return.

[analog iris]

i mistypped, i wanted to say by power i meant dps/defence anything which can give me advantage in pvp

[tawdry pier]

Again depends on what you get from rng

[analog iris]

ty

[analog iris]

hi, in pc in conflict mode longer matchmaking automatically pair us with players from other regions?

[half compass]

Yes

[analog iris]

ty

[mossy solstice]

I'm cool with that. Allows me to use builds I can't normally use with good pvp players. Was fun up until the pvp players got on and then it became nothing but bighorn or umbra again

Or cheating

[analog iris]

plz tell me on PC very roughly what is the active hours(specify the timezone) on weekdays for conflict when we can find matches easily? like 5pm to 11 pm UTC etc.

[short wasp]

usually it's when people of your region get off work or the whole weekend

[analog iris]

does not matter my region as we matchmake with other region players automatically

[pulsar vapor]

Bf6 has in shackles

What i miss for pvp?

[abstract vault]

hazard regen headshot bighorn

umbra capacitor

[meager swift]

Yeah 2 boring ass builds

[mossy solstice]

The only builds that can be used because that's all that's viable

[abstract vault]

oh and pistol

[tawdry pier]

How could you forget

[dire kestrel]

Saw some people using 3p lengmo and it’s not bad for dz I don’t really know what lmg I should be using but pesti took down 4 rogue manhunt squad last night pretty dang proud of myself haha.

[craggy trench]

Pesti is solid rn

[lavish basin]

#rules 12 - no naming and shaming

[nova shadow]

im just saying the fact and telling the community stay safe from hackers and cheaters and thats name calling? cuz there is no way to report a cheater in game

[lavish basin]

Calling someone out as a cheater in this server is against the rules, yes. You can open a ticket with Ubisoft support to report to them directly.

[pale tundra]

As stated by ubisoft supprt "You need to report them in game as we can't do anything about it"

[dire kestrel]

Ok so follow protocol find a new server and move on. Find the guy again report him again and follow suit.

[pale tundra]

They tried to ban people, yet banned half of the community and reverted the bans

[dire kestrel]

I’m just saying thiers rules to follow in game and In here. If you are having trouble need advice or wanna ask a question about PvP. Plenty of people here including me who can help.

[pale tundra]

"Need help" lmao 10k+ hours + CBT Yeah, the only help that is needed is for devs to balance pvp correctly and ban people cheating.

[nova shadow]

there is no option to report someone as cheater in game- literally no option for that. you can only report for griefing, trash talk, profile picture

[golden ermine]

CBT?

[sinful grotto]

Wonder if the new knee pads will have any effect in PvP

[limber cedar]

They are probably going to do the same thing with the turmoil and mosquito, like this exotic has no effects on PVP. On the description or something like that. I still don't have the exotic so I can't confirm it.

[sturdy badger]

Amen!

[sinful grotto]

New brand set seems goated

[craggy trench]

Right

[craggy trench]

Who are you referring to here

[fossil portal]

Log into dz
Thinking about having a good time
Run one landmark
Immediately afterwards get gunned down by a hacker and he then decides to leave the dark zone.

[golden ermine]

Skill issue

[fossil portal]

It’s legit rpm hacks ;-;

[golden ermine]

@craggy trench would of won that

[craggy trench]

Right

[abstract vault]

Sounds like a skill issue 😂

[meager swift]

Cheater just has a better gaming chair

[nova shadow]

i can't refer directly even though they are C word. its because thats name calling in this server. according to ubi telling someone as C word even though you have full video of C ing hurts C word guy's feeling. this is server rules already my 2 direct post about C word is removed because of name calling. you can find the C word guy with kills in my team basically both 2 above me . opponent C word guy left even though he spammed sticky infinite, my team C word user used wallbang to kill them so opponent C word user can't stand a chance so he left

[nova shadow]

don't reply to rage baiters its waste of time, and the fun part this there is lot of them.

[tawdry pier]

Wouldn't it be the not so fun part?

[nova shadow]

true. but ignoring them is fun.

[nova shadow]

see as soon as i mention in reply post got deleted. this is exactly why everyone avoiding pvp. i think only console players having fun in pvp. i quit. every match i go there is cheater. but i wonder how some get dopamine from aim botting and wall hacking, cuz they didn't do anything then how cheaters get satisfaction out of it.

[craggy trench]

One of the things you mentioned happens on console as well

So they probably aren't having a much better time

[fossil portal]

Bro, that’s the weird part, he just joined the dz, just to kill me once and then he left lolll

He didn’t even extract any of the loot I had, just straight up left

And I had a good like 40 dz resources

[rancid pewter]

As a console player (PS), this is not true. We may not experience the same issue you guys have on PC, but we also get the short end of the stick from players who are lagswitching the game or lag the servers. Some of them are even teaching others how to lagswitch by buying ethernet paddles and such for malicious intents on the game. While others do it because they get rage baited due to the other team being manhunted.

It's hard to have fun in PvP when you have these type of people constantly griefing others with the same tactics due to rage or lack of skill.

I love this game. I truly do! The lore and the content that keeps dropping every season.

Despite this, people who are constantly exploiting the game with 3rd party apps and/or devices are ruining what little we have left to enjoy in this game. Such a shame 😔

[inland tusk]

And that's why all of my friends stopped playing, they either on bf6,arc or cod,some ppl uninstalled and even throw the disk in the dumpster

[nova shadow]

they must feel bad about their lack of skill and they think they can't never get gud that may be the reason most of them cheating. but they completely missing the whole point. it doesn't make them better too. it make them even worse 🤣

[rancid pewter]

I totally understand that. I play BF6 myself. I will say this though.

After the Faye Lau manhunt, we all thought the game was dead and that the devs abandoned us. Even me back then when i was only playing PvE content during the pandemic.

But the people that played PvP stayed and continued to play. Said the same things as we're all saying now. And surprisingly, it rose back from the ashes and they started to give us more content again.

Why do i bring this up? because when you love something, you try to do something about it. I know that reporting these lagswitchers may feel like nothing is being done. And sure, we'll continue seeing them again and again and again in Conflict and the DZ ruining and destroying the game for all of us while also saying that the game is dead with a sprinkle of "the devs don't care and won't do anything about it".

But i do know this. Once they hire the lead PvP game designer, we might see some actual change in the game.

I might seem like i have a lot of expectations on whoever they hire and i totally understand. I do hope that once we have someone who is in charge of the PvP community can make things better. Maybe even bring people back into the game again. Who knows.

[tawdry pier]

it didn't take 30 mins till we got a lag in our server and this is after leaving the dz for a couple weeks
it's really bad

[rancid pewter]

I hear you bro. It sucks. 😔

[solid sluice]

What's the top 2 talent for the tinker mask (flatline is the 1st talent)?

For PvP...

[half compass]

Measured

[solid sluice]

Optimist no?

[half compass]

Measured is better

[solid sluice]

Ty

[rancid pewter]

you should report the player on the ubisoft website with this clip

[amber ice]

@tawdry pier Sorry, Rule 12.

[golden ermine]

We get companions? 🥹

[mossy solstice]

I hope they shred cheaters if so 💥

[rancid pewter]

Companions, as in other players? Sure! 😂

Jk.

Nah. It was mentioned in the livestream that its only for the open world. Nothing else outside of that.

[golden ermine]

Rip, was gonna have my companion 1v1 bad players

[rancid pewter]

Lol it would've been a really fast 1v1 😂

[nova shadow]

nah bro, i think its waste of time, i already did once, and i saw the same cheater thrice again. and i wasted 10mins on reporting that, and nothing happened even the support team said they wont share the result, which means i wont know whether he get banned or not. but i saw the result thrice in game.
this is just my opinion -> if a action leads to nothing, its just waste of time. i have to trim the video cuz its only 20mb limit, so you do a lor for nothing. ubi intentionally not putting report someone as cheater in game, it would be so easy and simple if there is ingame option.
wasting lot of time on trimming video and perfectly find that one clip in whole video within 20mb and screenshot of cheater with name 10mb total must be within 30 mb. i did a lot to get everything within 30mb and wasted time for nothing.
i truly feels ubi made it hard to report cheaters so no one will do it. because player count is too low and they are the customers spending money on game, that may be reason.
but im encouraging others to report cheaters though, if devs do something about it it would be great.

[wet badger]

There is an option to report a cheater in game but they couldn't even put the option in the correct sub menu.

They revamped the report system, didn't finish the job and it was all for nothing. What an absolute joke.

You are right, it's a complete and total waste of time.

I've moved on

[sinful grotto]

Are you completely done with the game?

No more videos or anything?

[wet badger]

Status: Retired

[mossy solstice]

I don't blame him for not making videos on this game anymore. The state of it just isn't entertaining compared to other PvP games

[golden ermine]

There was a console player crashing servers talking about"report me, idc, I got accounts for days" 🤓🤓🤓

[nova shadow]

here is an idea. Being a discord mod is a job right, these people delete the posts within seconds of posting for calling an actual cheater a cheater. if ubisoft appoint 2 peoples to check the cheater evidences and manually ban players based on solid video evidence will do the job for this lower player count game. active banning is also good for company cuz cheater buys more account and gets bans. so ubi can make profit out of it and also they can provide secure pvp so more players from other pvp games have chance of returning to division2.

[craggy trench]

mods are unpaid, its not a job

[glossy oriole]

Yup, we are not employed by Ubisoft, not getting paid. Just community members willing to help out with moderating the server.

And the reason why posts about cheaters are getting deleted is that we have a rule against naming and shaming and the fact that the mod team can't do anything about cheaters in the game (even if there's clear evidence that they are cheating).

There's an official way to report cheaters and then it's on the Ubisoft team to handle it and take action, if necessary.

[mossy solstice]

Plus the reason they don't allow it these types of posts, give it some thought, is what if they were in this server? Yeah sure, maybe they are cheating. But it opens up room for bullying which is against TOS basically anywhere. This server already has enough drama with the people in it. Imagine if they allowed cheater videos all over. It can not only create a toxic, bullying atmosphere but it can give the wrong impression to those who are thinking about cheating and can see they can get away with it. As much as it sucks cheaters aren't being taken care of here, we can't exactly blame the mods for this. They just moderate a server, this one, unpaid. And they have no say in how Ubisoft/Massive does business. I'm sure the mods here would like to see cheaters gone too. You ain't the only one

[nova shadow]

im not blaming mods, im just telling the concept bruh. i clearly know they are doing their part

in my opninon mods deserve to be paid cuz of 24/7 watch

[mossy solstice]

Would be super good for them honestly

[nova shadow]

true

[meager swift]

The mods on here are not employed by Ubisoft and as stated many times they have zero power to ban anyone either so report in gane and maybe one day before survivors they will take notice.... on that PvP here is Australia & Asia is dead with everyone play BF6/Arc etc

Now lets look at it this way their latest so called ban wave which was hyped by GCRock was nothing more than a PR stunt which didnt ban any blatent cheaters and what bans were dished out was for macro abusing (many used it for the level 1 exotic component farm) which were all reverted , now for all we know they were testing the waters to see how an updated anticheat will work with their swiss cheese gamecode when survivors drops next year, the other thing is survival is not the DZ or Conflict and is typucally not a full on sweat fest gamemode, food for thought kids

[sinful grotto]

Was farming a guy so bad he had to pull out the auto nemmy

[meager swift]

its how it all begins

[nova shadow]

i encountered a mortar counter in pvp is it hack or legit build? i used mortar but whenever it gets close to enemy it explodes in mid air. is that a hive build or something that counter mortar projectiles?

[golden ermine]

Final measure

Hive or smart cover stops yo morta

[nova shadow]

cool

[safe island]

Conflict still trash. Morta needs to be nerf or at least buff EMP

[meager swift]

Mortar has always been strong

[mossy solstice]

Measured assembly: 😥

[limber cedar]

Demolisher Firefly laughing in the corner.

[golden ermine]

I got a dirty support build with it

[mossy solstice]

Let's see it 👀

[golden ermine]

Will send later

[mossy solstice]

🙏

[abstract vault]

have you seen demolisher system corruption

[tranquil nest]

Y tho?

[mossy solstice]

System Corruption interacts with certain skills in a weird way. Buffs the damage somehow. I don't properly know the mechanics. Just the fact this game is ran off of Spaghetti code and nothing makes sense half the time

[tranquil nest]

That does sound weird

[craggy trench]

The buff is total weapon and skill dmg I believe

"Increases total weapon damage by 2% per 5%
bonus armor gained, up to 20%"

It doesn't say it, but it buffs skill as well

[tranquil nest]

never knew that

[craggy trench]

Who would? It's almost impossible to get the set let alone a full yellow version

[tranquil nest]

I didn't know that although I never pvp at all

[craggy trench]

It would probably be a super good oxi set.....

[tranquil nest]

hmm

[mossy solstice]

Imagine replacing the usual Oxi build in the Incursion with a system corruption one. Oh the redundancy! 😂😂

[limber cedar]

@mossy solstice
The description is wrong, it's actually damage amplification, not twp. That's why it can increase damage of melee, skills, and explosions also.

[mossy solstice]

Huh... So that would mean the description of sys corr is actually completely wrong in game... Why does this not surprise me tho.

SPA GEH TEA CODE 🤌

[amber ice]

@inner palm This channel is just for discussions about the PvP modes of div2, you're looking for #lfg-pc
GL Agent

[inner palm]

@amber icemy apologies

[amber ice]

No problem, best of luck to you.

[craggy trench]

It's an amp? That changes some things

[craggy trench]

That's what I'm thinking

[mossy solstice]

I may have a way I can test this to see if it's fairly true. Because if system corruption is instead an amplification as opposed to weapon damage, that would explain why things feel so weak

Taking a three or four Blue core setup with a 50% amplification is not all that much to be honest. Especially when the damage only comes from the talent itself and a lot of times in PvP you're going to be taking survivability talents

[dire kestrel]

Amp damage calculates skill damage too right?

[rancid pewter]

yes

[craggy trench]

Certain amps

Striker doesn't for example

[alpine cypress]

First lobby back after a 6 month break.

[mossy solstice]

this will likely get deleted but they're known in the community. whenever you see the ROG guys show up he usually shows up. my advice? stop playing DZ. its dead, and youd get more out of just playing conflict. you cant exactly just swap DZ's because goobers like them tend to try and follow you

I wish DZ wasnt like this but its just how it is now. conflict is the only viable place to get actual PVP and if theres a cheater just leave

[alpine cypress]

As someone who exclusively plays DZ this is sad to hear. Thanks for the heads up on the clan though.

[mossy solstice]

almost all of the known division 2 clans that pvp on here have had or harbor cheaters. WOW, ROG, UDT, the list goes on

I can say that several of the guys in those clips are all pets to cheaters and are confirmed with numerous video links

[alpine cypress]

i also keep getting 2 tapped by this quick step pistol and don't understand how the build works. 😂

[mossy solstice]

the dark zone really is darker than ever. trust nobody. group up with nobody. anyone can be cheating now. thats just the state of the game lol

[mossy solstice]

they're damage stacking and likely have aimbot and speed hacks. youre best off just not playing DZ for a while. as horrible as that is to say (bc I like the DZ too)

its why currently the developer team is looking to hire a PVP lead

[alpine cypress]

ahh lol. shame

i remember the first PVE damage glitch on the minigun with the shield and i got banned and had my account rolled back and non of my mates did. Ubi claimed 100% accuracy in emails on that. Starting to look like this problem wont go away.

[mossy solstice]

thats because well, it hasnt. they stopped banning because the developers then all left the studio. this game was set to die actually, and at one point we only had 1 dev working on this game. an article came forward about all of it. it was the community's loyalty that kept this game's lights on

there is NOBODY working on the PVP side of things right now. its why we haven't seen any balancing, any bans in regards to cheating, as well as any new maps or content added in. hopefully when a new PVP lead gets hired, IF one does, they can fix this dumpster fire of a mess we have right now. when you can find fair PVP in this game, its super fun. sadly, your liklihood of that is at an all time low right now. Im a huge fan of division pvp, it offers an experience no other game on the market can offer. It just has too many issues with it to be even considered playing as a PVP game. PVE is in a great spot, PVP is not

Basically, think of it like Destiny rn, with its issues... but swap the theme to div 2 pvp

[inland tusk]

That's why i am on arc,plenty of pvp ,0 cheaters 😂

[rancid pewter]

people still use cronus on Arc though....

[inland tusk]

I have not seen any game breaking kettles unlike on PC,where kettle is fully automatic lmao

[rancid pewter]

I honestly don't have too much expectations on the new PVP lead.
IMO, The person that potentially gets hired for the job might actually focus more on survivors than the actual PvP as a whole.
I do wish that whoever gets hired, actually does something about it. If you ask what my personal wish, just manually go through the amount of reported cheaters (don't use AI to do it) and account or console ban each and everyone that has been reported. that's it

Or you know what? reset their characters to lv1 as if it was a HC character. that would teach them a lesson if you can't ban them

[rancid pewter]

idk but there's plenty of google pages and yt videos on it. Not trying to promote but it sucks nowadays that people have to rely on 3rd party devices meant for accessibility only being abused for people to cheat in games.

If you're a person that likes to "exploit the game", then you don't deserve to be IN the game. That's my opinion.

[tawdry pier]

considering the experience we lived in with division for the past 2 years i'd fight a cronus or kbm person any day of the week and have no problem with

im so desensitized by the division pvp experience

[rancid pewter]

that's true. at least those people are beatable compared to lagswitchers

[mossy solstice]

ive reached a point where I dont think ill ever go back to division 2 pvp until they start banning cheaters and balancing the gear

[inland tusk]

Console superior 😂

[mossy solstice]

console is superior in lag switches and full auto nemesis 😂 at least on pc if I ever get sick and tired of the issue I can just open my wallet and get cheats 😂

dont see a point at all. besides, if I full swapped to console, I could easily walk all over the console players. thats just no fun

[inland tusk]

I highly doubt u can even proper aim on console 😂

[golden ermine]

Doubt

[golden ermine]

Id let loesh handle you

You dont know him but you would be insulted if you did

[mossy solstice]

Have you seen console builds VS PC builds?

[golden ermine]

Nope but i heard ovg owns the pc playerbase 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[mossy solstice]

I also play controller on PC against KBM players and id intentionally get a high refresh monitor so I'd play at 144hz instead of console stuck at 60

PC vs Console isn't even a comparison imo

[golden ermine]

True between equally "tiered" people but it would be a mid pc player against good console players

[mossy solstice]

@inland tusk ^^

[mossy solstice]

Damn I got called mid 💀 my life is over I've been cyber bullied

[golden ermine]

Yea, i was being nice with it

[mossy solstice]

Them ISAC boys really did a number on you

[golden ermine]

You seem kinda pressed a console player is better than you 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️🤔

[mossy solstice]

#rules 9

[golden ermine]

My b, dont want you to tattle again

[mossy solstice]

If you wanna talk shit, take this to DM 👍

[golden ermine]

"Dm" 😏

[mossy solstice]

🥱

[golden ermine]

He blocked really fast , I dont wanna say it is cringe BUT 😬

[half compass]

Dead game btw

[inland tusk]

Depends on the PC 😂

[coarse shuttle]

pvp dark zone

[mossy solstice]

Alright now this is true. It depends how good the PC and who's playing it 😂 most the time tho you're gonna be fighting decent players on PC since those are the players that never left or stopped playing

[inland tusk]

Game dead everything is irrelevant

[mossy solstice]

True. That's why I play a maximum of 3 conflict matches when I'm that bored 😂

[inland tusk]

Arc raiders is the way to go atm

[tranquil nest]

/s ?

[amber ice]

@glacial owl You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[tawdry pier]

Bro's looking for beef nothing else

[glacial owl]

Im a big fan of lesbians also

Also if u need help in dz add me

[amber ice]

@glacial owl You've been told where to look, head over there and stop trying to LFG in here.
cmon now, be cool.

[tranquil nest]

Bruh

[wet badger]

Loesh? Haha I remember a friend pretending to be him in a twitch chat trolling the streamer, shi was hilarious, went on for ages dude had no idea it was an impostor

[golden ermine]

I vaguely remember that

[finite thistle]

can someone explain why this build one shotted everyone in my conflict match

[half compass]

The combination of all red cores, glass cannon, vigilance, and choice of weapon talents leads to a lot of damage but the trade off is that you can kill them way faster as they take more damage with glass cannon, allowing you to kill them with 10 bullets with an AR instead of 30 bullets for example

[mossy solstice]

Some people in conflict are good at sniping... And some are closet cheating and you wouldn't even know it

[golden ermine]

I feel like every1 who kills you is a cheater

[craggy trench]

Funny because behind you doesn't work in PvP

[craggy trench]

That's the only way to kill me😎

[modern gull]

this could be useful

[tawdry pier]

that's what we call a godrolled piece of shit

[mossy solstice]

its useful if you like reloading regulus after one shot

[modern gull]

zad

[limber cedar]

You forgot the "n't" after could.

[finite thistle]

do people actually play confict and do good?

[mossy solstice]

Depends on the people you play against and what builds you end up facing. Also entirely depends on your knowledge of the game as well as being able to predict what your enemy does as well

[craggy trench]

I generally do pretty well in conflict, it's the mode I'm playing consistently with div 2

[cloud epoch]

I’m here

[mossy solstice]

For my sys build, it's nearly identical. Difference with mine is I run Ceska chest and as a 3/3 setup with assault rifles. For SMGs I run 4/2 and soko chest

I also don't bother with shield. I use decoy and if somebody is running pulse I'll throw on pulse res for sneakier plays

When I play tink, I run streamlined + Optimist on a famas

[cloud epoch]

I kept on the pulse resistance permanently as atm it’s aloo spotter drones so it just allows for that instant sneaky ness

[mossy solstice]

Yeah spotter drones plague conflict rn

Sys isn't awful but it's definitely in a bad spot. When you can make it work it's way too satisfying

[cloud epoch]

Sorry I type slow , so do you run 2 soko and the gear set and you run 3 system cruption 2 price something else and Ninja bike backpack ?

Idk why but it blocked my initiall message

[cloud epoch]

Well that was the thing I grabbed it just to have a play around and it worked really well and it works amazing when your solo as I get extreme survivablity while being able to win fights and I took the whole hunt for 1v1 thing so if I’m team suck I will go into ther backline and get there skill or dps players , I will then go back to there spawn to pick them off again but that’s if like the team down 16 :7 or some thing

[mossy solstice]

Nah it's your same setup, just the number of Blues : Reds I take varies on the weapon I use. For SMGs I take 4/2 and run a Soko chest

[cloud epoch]

Ahhh okay

[mossy solstice]

ARs I take 3/3 and use Ceska chest

[cloud epoch]

What smg and talent you run ?