td2-build-advice

[peak sphinx]

Since you gotta start i would suggest at least for the time being a dmg/skill build so you can clear missions etc and during that collect pieces and then as you play more you understand the game better and get to know what/how you like to play and then build towards that goal ( wich by then gladly come back for advice from us)

[candid idol]

how can i fix oscar-01 problem? it's been driving me nuts. my friend gifted me this game and he paid 1200 bucks (in my countries currency) and i cant even play with him. i wolud be really apreciated by your help. god belss.

[cerulean smelt]

nods pick up a striker build. then you use that to make up your builds you want to actually try and play

[cerulean smelt]

there's a #unofficial-troubleshooting where this seems to be more of a place for. this channel is for in game build help

[candid idol]

thx mate ^^

[vocal flax]

Should i also put some invoming repairs?

[fresh fox]

regen builds use regen brand bonuses over regen attributes and use tanky talents like adrenaline rush

bighorn regen uses 2pc golan, everyday carrier, emperors guard and catharsis

[vocal flax]

And if i dont want to use big horn and switch to an smg?

[fresh fox]

use a different build imo

crit regen builds struggle a lot

[vocal flax]

Okay but if i stick to ARs it would work?

[shy willow]

Bighorn is the star of the whole thing

[fresh fox]

if you stick to bighorn

bighorn gives the build all of its damage

[vocal flax]

So its bighorn or nothing?

[fresh fox]

basically yea

[vocal flax]

Something like that?

[shy willow]

similar yes

[vocal flax]

Now i think im gonna do something for the railsplitter

[maiden jasper]

Can someone explain how building works in this game? I'm not sure what the Red, Yellow, and Blue labels mean, pure DD, something like support, and extrication, respectively? So, is it better to invest in one thing, rather than in 2 parameters?

[urban latch]

generally speaking, its best to going all in on trying to do a single thing very well. If you check the pins theres a google doc with a bunch of info and build guides in there to get started

[maiden jasper]

I understand, but what is used most often? Damage?

[urban latch]

generally yes

tank builds are pretty niche, skill builds can be useful in certain situations, but you pretty much always need some dps builds

strikers is the most popular right now, so thats a good one to start with, but other builds have their uses

[ruby escarp]

What is the best AR if i do not own a lexington?

[bleak sequoia]

I like St Elmo's Fire

Engine

[onyx sage]

famas, police m4 are always good

[urban latch]

F2000 as well

[trim wedge]

Best umbra pvp all around build ?

[trim wedge]

Now you just have to grind expertise until your hands bleed and your done

[vocal flax]

So another 5 years ?

[vocal flax]

And here is a little monster i created for my lexington

[hexed anvil]

My current striker build. is there any way to squeeze any more juice out of this?

[vestal ibex]

Idk about that holster, it requires a lot of swaps to extract worth but you are swapping vs shooting

[hexed anvil]

Yea I don't mind the swaps, but what else would you recommend instead?

I feel like the holster gives instant gratification due to rpm and DMG boost

[fresh fox]

how did he take that picture wtf

[vestal ibex]

If you make good use of it sure I just feel like swapping vs shooting makes it less than worth because I'd rather be shooting than swapping. It's situational/player dependant.

[vestal ibex]

It's a vid edit

Or something

[hexed anvil]

I do make sure I swap as soon as I feel ljke rpm is back to normal. And I don't mind it 🙂

[hexed anvil]

It's a build template I was working on. But I feel like it's too much text on one page and it's too small. I gotta go back to drawing board on that idea

[vestal ibex]

Just a screen shot works tho?

Like that's harder to see than a normal inventory screeny

[hexed anvil]

On a monitor I can easily read it. But it's not optimal for looking on a phone screen

[vestal ibex]

I'm on a monitor tho, icons are at a glance.

If you are new to the game and don't know what they are sure.

[hexed anvil]

True.. I thought of adding names of weapon, chest and backpack talent and diched the idea coz its way too much text lol

[subtle bluff]

Striker Chest in normal PvE isn't worth it. It's hard to build that much and keep up the stacks. So that'll open up a Chest Talent slot either for Obliterate or Glass Canon.

[magic pilot]

For the image I would make the brands/gearsets easy to see

[bleak sequoia]

you photoshop the text in?

[strong cave]

Okay nerds. New AK, is it worth it?

[vivid timber]

How did u get your loudout section to look like that?

[strong cave]

Probably a thumbnail they made themselves

[fresh fox]

nope

slower reload speed for more headshot damage

[strong cave]

Bruh. May as well use a normal fkn ak-47 😂 nerf Lexington then give us this heap of shit. Shows how much we're appreciated

Happy valentine's day guys

[subtle bluff]

I need to borrow him for something.. SHH see that.

[glad heart]

Did they nerf Lexington already? Wouldn't surprise me in the least. They break good builds, then give us garbage, and think that is wonderful? Phtttttt....

[strong cave]

Next season will be nerfed and that's right around the corner btw

[cerulean smelt]

a streamer i watched put the new damage it does into a spreadsheet and it comes out on top still

[bold leaf]

It's a 1.1% nerf, likely unnoticable by most

[cerulean smelt]

someone pointed out with the reload buff it'd make no difference

[bleak sequoia]

first sight is +30% HSD, what's the reload speed penalty?

[glad heart]

Well there is still no point in nerfing things far as I can tell. But, I don't run Lex anyway... too much work to rework the build I run ( which they nerfed the crap out of last time.... (Providence, Grupo, Ceska...)

[cerulean smelt]

what's the nerf to that?

[magic pilot]

lol

[bleak sequoia]

just looked it up. -20% reload speed. OUCH

in exchange for +30% HSD, on an AR with a ton of recoil

[bold leaf]

That's rough

[bleak sequoia]

yeah it's definitely one for the Expertise, and not for use

[glad heart]

Nerfed the stats.... bonusesCHC, CHD etc;;

[cerulean smelt]

hmm

then again, my build is a little different. think i use grupo with weapon gloves and foxes

[hexed steppe]

Ceska nerf just means you run 1 extra chc mod, and let chd settle where it will

Ceska glass/foxs/nego with lex/elmo and m1a cqb on either setup. Still hits hard af and transfer buff is nice

Nego is 😍

[cerulean smelt]

i haven't touched nego in forever

[glad heart]

I lost 10% CHD, and my CHC tanked.... CHD went from 203.5 to 193.5, and CHC went down below 50, was at like 58 or 59 don't remember, my CHC is now at 57 and CHD is still 193.5

[hexed steppe]

Transfer with bag is now 110% 😎

[cerulean smelt]

not 112%?

[shy willow]

Getting an amp on nego bag now is so sweet

[hexed steppe]

Now I'm confused. I thought 110 but I'll check patch notes later

[cerulean smelt]

when i looked at the sheet since someone was asking about nego build. i consulted it and saw 112% and thought someone who updates the sheet just fatfingered it XD

[hexed steppe]

Better than I thought. Yeah patchnotes say 112. Mb 🍻

[cerulean smelt]

no worries, i was confused myself XD

like i didn't know striker got nerfed from 1% to .9%

[hollow urchin]

Any good overall solo skill builds?

[cerulean smelt]

about only one that comes to mind is 3pc empress, 2 hana-u and either wyvern holster or waveform holster

and if you got some serious determination. i go 3pc empress, 2 grupo and 1 china light mortar/seeker build

[onyx sage]

🫵 😆 old man

[hexed steppe]

Ceska lost 2% chc, grupo lost 2% chd afaik
Providence also lost 2% on each.
He red 3prov grupo fox contractors only sees 4%chd reduction and 2% chc reduction.
If running a gearset like strikers, nego, etc you are maybe seeing loss 2% of each max

[hexed steppe]

It would help if I tagged properly

Respect your elders ya young whipper snapper 👴

[onyx sage]

👴

[hexed steppe]

Yes , mortar.
Also fire eclipse, but mortar works for a lot of content outside of raid/incursion/countdown.

Mortar Supremacy

Pretty hard to mess up a mortar build. Can use a typical afk build and slap mortar on it. You can get more exotic versions depending on your resolve for farming unicorns.
2 guides in the sheet. Normal setup and btsu oc setup. I would encourage you to try a normal variant first, and if you like it, dip into the unicorn setups.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd be pretty tempted to change my 3pc empress to 2 pc monkey and slap an exotic on it 🤔

[bold leaf]

2 monkey, 3 empress might be the way to go

[magic pilot]

2 empress is not worth

[bold leaf]

Yeah I mistyped

[magic pilot]

3 empress 2 monkey and waveform is kinda the noob turret drone build now

Or could go palisade for AoK

[cerulean smelt]

that would probably be my turret drone build

[magic pilot]

The efficiency really doesn't do a lot for turret drone tho

They have fast recharge speeds and long duration already

What's the 1pc monkey? Duration?

[bold leaf]

Think so

Not sure why the 3pc is 52% repair

[magic pilot]

Is the first brand with repair as 3 pc

So it's scaled up at a consistent rate

1 pc repair 2pc repair 3 pc repair increases the same amount

[bold leaf]

Makes sense

[cerulean smelt]

maybe to try and get us to get creative with some kind of combat medic build for it

[magic pilot]

18/35/52

[bold leaf]

Or to pair with the revive backpack

I'll be running refactor anyway, that was fun in the PTS

[magic pilot]

Tbh I think the backpack isn't that good

If I'm gonna use an exotic backpack for medkit I'd rather use ninja

[cerulean smelt]

what i saw of it, i'm pretty impressed with backpack

[bold leaf]

It'll be great for new players, especially those in a group that are playing together for the first time.

But for people who've played for a long time no it'll most likely be a free component

[hexed steppe]

i doubt monkey is gonna be worth on skill in general.. can beat 2pc monkey with 1 wyvern for important stats

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if anyone tested reviving with hive and still see it work. i'd be curious about that aspect

[bold leaf]

I think I saw it tested and it didn't work

It has to be a manual revive

[cerulean smelt]

ah ok

[hexed steppe]

the play still gonna be 3 empress, 2 hanna, 1 wyvern for turret drone... and notmal setups for mortar

[cerulean smelt]

although OC revive might be great at some point?

i got waveform for mine XD

[bold leaf]

Speedrunners are gonna find a way to make it work

Especially as it appears to have no cooldown on the overcharge

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, streamer showed them constantly having full bullwark shield

[hexed steppe]

didnt realize there was an oc on the bag 🤦‍♂️

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, only thing i see a change of is taking the ninja bag code out of it

[hexed steppe]

still not worth i dont think. not for a skill damage build. maybe on healer or some hybrid. can already oc with btsu and still have chest/bag talents free

[cerulean smelt]

well, i think the OC is for the person doing the reviving

[hexed steppe]

just run a strong striker so you can control where the damage is going

or hotshot if running a lot of directives

[magic pilot]

Hive doesn't work

Hotshot imo

Run it with more directives with hotshot

That's what I run solo

Also it will only drop from the boss

Ofc

[bold leaf]

Yes

[magic pilot]

Ideally you would farm 90

For bighorn yes, no one else will drop it

I think I have a high summit floor

I can check when I get home and pass it to you

[bold leaf]

Higher floors have more bosses so it's more efficient, but 10 works fine

[magic pilot]

I've gotten it first time for people quite often

[cerulean smelt]

how do you know?

[magic pilot]

I always say "idk how long it will take sometimes it takes hours" and then we get it first run

[cerulean smelt]

i feel Till mortar do us part is always there watching all of us and chuckling at us

[magic pilot]

You never know🤷‍♂️

I never thought I would get a 13% pfe

I got one after 5800 shd

[bold leaf]

Haha I just got one recently too, at 5500+ SHD

[cerulean smelt]

i call hacks :p

[magic pilot]

Tbh I read this chat all the time

@onyx sage gave me a 13% mod

Nothing really

It's like a "hey I need help right now"

[bold leaf]

Matchmaking will fill your group up to 4, if people join; backup only calls one at a time I think

[shy willow]

Man

[hexed steppe]

still too scared to drop that stinger hive during countdown extraction? you may not believe in him, but he believes in you 💯
🔥 😈 🔥

alot of times when matchmaking is slow , backup calls really shine. ther is always a couple people looking to improve their shepherd ranks

i knew i liked you 😎

[bold leaf]

I want to see what happens with an overcharged stinger hive at the extraction 👀

[magic pilot]

Yea mortar tank is easy to do

If you are going to pvp definitely need a regen build

[cerulean smelt]

gonna test that with first sight?

[bold leaf]

Why 2pc Golan? Doesn't 2pc Gila give regen and total armour?

[tulip charm]

Its a pvp regen build

[magic pilot]

1 pc gila is armor, 2 pc is health

[tulip charm]

Oh

[bold leaf]

Ohh health ok

[magic pilot]

Nah it sucks

The reload speed is longer

[tulip charm]

They waste all the resources making lexi good so that first sight is bad

😭

[magic pilot]

30% hsd bonus for -20% reload speed

Terrible trade

I have one too

[tulip charm]

Wtf thats the trade off?

[magic pilot]

I think it's in the guide

[magic pilot]

Yep

3 lengmo, contractors grupo coyotes?

How many blues?

I'd go at least one more blue if you are running catharsis

What backpack

For 3/3 coyotes definitely gets more value

[cerulean smelt]

think them exodus will make a debut in pvp?

[lime swallow]

What do you think of my pvp build? Is it good or do you recommend something?

[magic pilot]

In some situations probably

[magic pilot]

Too many blue, run some yellow

And put fire sticky

Wicked is pretty good here actually

Raucey runs a jammer pulse to proc as well

[glad heart]

Then something else got nerfed too then, or the stats lie: Four images follow, before and after....

[lime swallow]

ok

[magic pilot]

Yea definitely gotta work on that

[magic pilot]

A lot of people run grupo/gila too

With 4 yellow, 1 from tech, 1 from ninja, 2 rolls, you can still have 3 blues and a red

Has a ton of skill dmg and good crit

Decently tanky

[cerulean smelt]

it's a shame they nerfed picaros

[magic pilot]

Yea picaros kinda not great anymore, even on a build like this

#td2-pvp-discussions message

[vivid timber]

how many chc and chd rolls in total? i wanna copy this

[hexed steppe]

thats fair. ig elmo lost 5% on chc/chd during the same patch. i though it was prior to this season* for some reason, mb. that would be a 9% drop from both stats in this setup.

[glad heart]

Everything rolled CHC and CHD, except for the blue which is armor regen; all stats maxed, all mods CHD.

[hexed steppe]

balancing would take more away from the chd as well

[vivid timber]

are you online rn?

[glad heart]

yes , my alt hunter is on

[vivid timber]

may i join you for a moment when you are free to see the build?

[onyx sage]

if he has the build on rn you can just inspect him

[glad heart]

HunterKD25 no problem

[vivid timber]

how i dont have him added

[onyx sage]

you don't have to

you can inspect mine for example, /inspect dien.aka.kim

[vivid timber]

omg loool

[onyx sage]

type in your game chat

[bold leaf]

Ooh that's smart

[vivid timber]

that is smort

[onyx sage]

lots of commands you can use in game chat lol

[onyx sage]

in fact you probably know me from the other server

[bold leaf]

I need a command that will drop a double red habs piece

[vivid timber]

I HAVE inspected build thank you

[vestal ibex]

WHO IS YOU?

[onyx sage]

Nanomachines, son.

[vivid timber]

yep lol

if only game told us about chat commads

[onyx sage]

jk, Tom from MySpace

[glad heart]

Type in central chat

[vestal ibex]

Tom was a bro

[vivid timber]

i got it now!

[onyx sage]

see guys, this is why i should retire.

[shy willow]

No way the real Armstrong

[cerulean smelt]

glad i learned about the nerfs recently

not sure what those stats were before the ner, but probably lost what someone said 2% chc maybe?

[onyx sage]

2% chc, 2% hsd, 2% chd everywhere

[glad heart]

The loss is greater than that

[bold leaf]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use a Mk 16

[cerulean smelt]

though i dont' think it underperformed from last i remember

[onyx sage]

it's a tiny nerf

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, old buddy of mine got me hooked on it. he also taught me this build

[hexed steppe]

4%chd prov/grupo

[onyx sage]

yeah i know

anywhere that has chd has 2% reduced, has hsd has 2% reduced, etc.

[vivid timber]

would chest with obl still be good here or gc/unbreakble is more optimal?

[cerulean smelt]

probably why i was shocked to heard a nerf to it XD

[onyx sage]

i mean unbreakable doesn't give any dmg

and has so little value in a build with such low armor

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, but i imagine obliterate would probably push it into what PGC does without going down a lot XD

[glad heart]

Unbreakable does not give damage, but it will save your butt in a rush

[vivid timber]

pgc?

[hexed steppe]

its clearer listing actual is all. some may not know all the set bonus

[cerulean smelt]

Perfect Glass Cannon = 30% extra damage but take 60% damage

[vivid timber]

ah

[cerulean smelt]

basically someone farts you go down

[vivid timber]

also btw uno your hotshot build , does it get 1 shot hdshot kill before the buff is active on elites?

[onyx sage]

no

you need stacks

[hexed steppe]

its not that serious. glass is pretty easy to deal with

[vivid timber]

what do u do? i use foam to trap then hdshot?

[bold leaf]

I don't notice the extra incoming damage from PGC most of the time, except from a perfectly thrown grenade I didn't see coming

[onyx sage]

you can yeah

or you can headshot again, the first headshot should have high enough damage to stun

[cerulean smelt]

i know, but when i was first learning to play with it, felt like that. oh let me cover shoot down i go XD

[vivid timber]

true

[hexed steppe]

yeah, its more of a seasoned player piece of gear. 🤔

with oblit getting nerfed i been swapping all the alts to glass for dps. they already had skill/yellow sacrifices on them tho.

[cerulean smelt]

😲 what they do to obliterate?

[hexed steppe]

its only 20% twd now

[cerulean smelt]

interesting

[hexed steppe]

kinda better tho. vigilance is acting like an amp because only source of twd, then glass is amp anyways so its better damage overall. just need to be aware of surroundings

[bold leaf]

Kill the boss, return to the lobby

[hexed steppe]

kill boss, pick up loot, leave npcs alive, lobby, repeat

[glad heart]

You get what you needed?

[hexed steppe]

lobby refreshes the floor, if you selfdelete its the same floor

[bold leaf]

Does it change the faction on that floor after you reset? I need a couple more Riker boss floors for a commendation but don't fancy running through 10s of floor to find one

[hexed steppe]

old floor 10 was about 60shd/hr before nerfed. you would use fire eclips and oxi to clear in like 30sec and repeat

[shy willow]

Rip convoys

[hexed steppe]

just find a ny riker control point, set world to heroic, kill whatever rikers you need, elites or named. youll get 2 named per clear, then can repeat as needed

[hexed steppe]

oh boss floors in summit , yeah lobby refreshes faction

[cerulean smelt]

btw: if you save the load out with whatever specialization it'll be set in that load out

[bold leaf]

Yep it's specifically in Summit, thanks though I'll try that

[magic pilot]

Should get this pinned in #ask-td2-community

[hexed steppe]

that works. if you get an airaldi vigilance bag youll squeeze a little more damage out of it... should be fine tho

[bold leaf]

Just don't bother trying to get 2x habs pieces. They don't exist with WH and HSD 😭

[hexed steppe]

thats why everyone ninja's the habs hotshot build 🤓

[bold leaf]

Never thought of that

[hexed steppe]

please, no

ill never forgive myself if i convinced someone to go ninja 🥷

[magic pilot]

Legendary it's always white tusk

[bold leaf]

Oh you weren't serious lol you got my 3am brain believing anything

[hexed steppe]

forgot about that

[hexed steppe]

i would rather help farm a good set than see an agent fall 😭 . ninja is a good component though 💯

[bold leaf]

Haha yeah I deconstructed it a while ago tbh

[bold leaf]

That's ok the commendation is for any diff

[cerulean smelt]

i feel they could make the ninajabike come with random talents on it

[hexed steppe]

or swap the talents to ninja knee and remove the bag all together

[hexed steppe]

imagine, chest/bag talents and the unlocks

[hexed steppe]

god mode activated

[onyx sage]

don't you bully my favorite exotic component

[hexed steppe]

mb, ill make some sacrifices in your name

i got you bro

[cerulean smelt]

how strong would the hive be in an CD extraction in that get up? 🤔

[onyx sage]

there's a hive?

[cerulean smelt]

i'd be tempted to run Countdown to be that troll XD

[hexed steppe]

inspects agent, an agent has left the group

would need to hotswap mid / end of mission

yeah

did you fully clear it?

ok cool. if complete itll put you in 11 checkpoint and break your farm

[lavish grail]

so question
according to the wiki, The Oxidizer can be used to reliably damage enemies that are behind cover, as well as push them out of it, and can be devastating when fired at enemy spawn points. Could the same be said for sticky bombs, particularly the incendiary ones? All varieties of chem launcher and sticky bomb seem to be area-effect indirect fire weapons (except reinforcer), so they would have roughly the same tactical niche, correct? @ me to reply

[shy willow]

Oxi is by far the most potent at spawn killing and is the only one that will completely bypass terrain

Stickies and chems are more for AOE status builds

[lavish grail]

what im concerned with is aoe and ability to fire over/around terrain

[fresh fox]

sticky bombs are not the same because they don’t go through walls

[next shadow]

What's a good pistol for a tank build?

[shy willow]

Liberty tends to come up a lot

[fresh fox]

anything with sledge

or mosquito

[trim wedge]

Let’s see some bonk builds 👀

Tired of these shotgun noobs need me a build to compete with em

[cerulean smelt]

you'd think since we have a exotic weapon and a named holster wtih melee damage we'd be able to run around and bash some heads we'd be pretty good at it. yet i die trying XD

[magic pilot]

terrible now

[shy willow]

oh rip

[fresh fox]

bro is mr old news

[hexed steppe]

oxi and fire chem not that similar. oxi benefits from duration and can definitely damage through walls, floors, ceilings, and objects but it is static. if you know the spawns firestarter chem can directly burn stuff behind walls, as long as the vapor cloud reaches npcs. it also indirectly burns stuff through the eclipse status spread on death. fire in my opinion is better in general. nice thing about fire is its ability to double dip 2 main damage types . primarily skill damage and status effects, but also affected by damage to armor. pair with eclipse and youll stack a bunch of status effects, use capacitor for skill damage and dta. ep bag talent amps all damage as well.
oxi on the other hand benefits from skill damage, amps like glass, dta, dttooc. its definitely strong but not very useful in a lot of situations. it shines when you have waves of npcs coming from the same spot or static targets like the generators and sams on tidal. its ability to stack multiple clouds and having damage ticks for each make it really good in those situations.

[solemn otter]

Is this build good?

a little changes

if you can please help me on my build to see what i can fix

[umbral basin]

Hey, does anyone know if in a group the cayote mask stacks?

[shy willow]

You can have all 3 active

[hoary sail]

you want to keep backpack nd capacitor?

[tender pulsar]

Hey guys, how could i improve my drone/turret/AR build ? I'm shredding through challenging but want to start heroïc. It's only for PvE

I have the Waveform holster but i prefer switching between Coyote and Catharasis mask

[solemn otter]

krieger told me to keep the backpack

is capacitor also ok?

[hoary sail]

all skill dmg nd regen or skill hast on all pieces. no coyote needed wyvern will be better or the exo holster wave form

[hoary sail]

not really if it's for pve

[tender pulsar]

It's not a good idea to have raw damage with the capacitor ?

[hoary sail]

Raw dmg why? skills don't deal crit dmg

[tender pulsar]

Yeah i know but since i'm also using the capacitor for shooting, i thought it was a good idea to deal damage with it

[hoary sail]

u will because the skill tier u have. but coyote here is not good

[tender pulsar]

True... i will try that, thanks !

[hoary sail]

How i did mine. Just put glass canon on chest. All dmg skill nd protec regen

[tender pulsar]

Nice, no waveform ?

[hoary sail]

no because i want full regen stats too. U can if u want more dmg. It will replace the wyvern piece

[normal reef]

Hey guys, so after the advice i got and some little research im currently using this armor set, but everyone uses scorpio as a main weapon. Any pointers on how to farm for it?

[vivid timber]

Priority objectives , exotic caches from dz/countdown vendor , countdown targ loot

[hoary sail]

hi it's 4 pieces not 5 for the futur set bonus. TL shootguns in summit or CD

[bright raptor]

Alps backpack with Opportunistic would be better as you really don't need the gearset backpack bonus

[urban latch]

As with farming most things, you'll want to farm activities with targeted loot, so for the Scorpio you'll target shotguns. Summit and countdown both have the option to select what targeted loot you want, challenging difficulty countdown being the most efficient.

Also keep an eye out for btsu gloves, a backpack with opportunistic (ideally the naned one, the setup), and a lefty shotgun.

[normal reef]

hasnt dropped so im just using what i have but ill keep on the lookout

[fresh fox]

use glass cannon

more weapon and skill damage

[bold leaf]

I couldn't see any recommendations for changing, so I'll offer this: swap out the chest for a Grupo Sombra piece and the Capacitor for pretty much anything else. You'll benefit more from the grupo crit damage than the d&h pistol damage. Capacitor is intended for skill builds so doesn't really do much here

[lyric jungle]

why does everyone want scorpio shotgun?
\

[fair dragon]

Great gun for utility

[vestal ibex]

It's gud

Great gun in general tho, the six 12 nerf brought it down a bit but really you can use the thing as a main weapon on DPS builds still.

[tender pulsar]

Yeah i'm planning too but have not looted it yet

[lyric jungle]

okay ty because i know i used to run it with dark winter and striker but that was a long time ago

[tender pulsar]

Btw what is the best way to loot a Hana-u/Empress with glass cannon ?

[tulip charm]

Countdown

[tender pulsar]

and what should i target ?

[tulip charm]

The brand

[tender pulsar]

Thanks 👌

[tame crane]

Hey guys, just coming back from a long break. Has the meta changed much as of lately? Still on Ouro/St.Elmo dps builds, been gone for around a year or so

[versed summit]

it's changed a little, but ouro elmo are still great for DPS.

[trim wedge]

I run crit hit dmg over regen

[lime swallow]

Can you tell me a build for legendaries in solo?

[trim wedge]

Any striker build

just run blue cores over red

[lime swallow]

ok

[trim wedge]

Skill build will do the trick but I prefer striker with hive for backup

[tame crane]

Great cheers, any new Exotics that are usable/viable in dedicated builds around them?

[trim wedge]

Hotshot legendary is super easy but gotta practice with it first make sure you can hit your shots

[lime swallow]

?

[trim wedge]

Hit for 25 mil?

[lime swallow]

20

[trim wedge]

If not switch out knees for fox’s prayer with headshot dmg

Just run 3 pc hotshot, tweak it to hit for 25 mil

And run vigilance over bloodsucker

Most the time you’re popping up shooting real quick n going down, your vigi won’t ever be unprocd

Do all that just so you can 1 shot bosses and 2 shot chungus

Always switch off hotshot for last room tho it will be useless against main boss

[magic pilot]

I'm assuming you mean DUA

[trim wedge]

That and Roosevelt

[lime swallow]

I just need vigilance

[magic pilot]

You can easily one shot DUA boss with Achilles and dodge city

[lime swallow]

@trim wedge

[magic pilot]

The incursion setup works too

[trim wedge]

Just take it to the range and see what your hitting for

To use hotshot in endgame and heroic tho you’ll need vigi or you’ll be super inconsistent

[magic pilot]

You can go bloodsucker if you don't run determined

[trim wedge]

I just made a second character and built the striker incursion to just clear stuff for the weekly and I’ve been missing out lol

Double the components

[magic pilot]

Dmg talent in mmr is enough to one shot most enemies

[magic pilot]

Yea it's worth running incursion 4x a week

[lime swallow]

ok

[magic pilot]

Can get down to 10-15 min runs

[trim wedge]

Yeah ik, I gotta do 2 more only took me a day to farm entire build, mods is a dif story

[worn mango]

Just catching up with content and such. In the PTS were there any weapon changes? I saw the new gearset but that's really it

[trim wedge]

Mods should be account based not character based

[tame crane]

How does the Incursion DPS build look?

[tame crane]

So mods are shared across all characters now?

[trim wedge]

Coyotes,4pc striker with backpack n chest, ceska/grupo pc

[trim wedge]

No I’m saying they should be

[tame crane]

Oh haha okay

[tame crane]

Oh yeah standard 4pc striker then

[trim wedge]

But you have to run backpack n chest

And keep your stacks up you’ll learn what keeps your stacks up as people run you through and teach you

[tame crane]

Yeah yeah haha I am aware, just been gone for a long time so catching up on whats new and whatnot

[trim wedge]

For raids you can run striker but most teams prefer just all red builds, don’t have to stack anything just outright dmg

[tame crane]

Yeah I run all red Elmo/Ouro builds Coyote all that basic stuff

[trim wedge]

Yeah, yeah all super basic builds anyone who plays pve content should have

[tame crane]

Yup, happy that they are still usable, i guess not too much has changed

[trim wedge]

No and for conflict/dz just run umbra, if you play dz a lot you’ll make more builds as you go but umbra is an amazing start

[tame crane]

Yeah havent really gotten into DZ yet but for sure gotta give it a shot

[trim wedge]

All the Cronus boys run headshot regen and if you don’t have Cronus it’s buns, just run vigi and their regen don’t matter

[urban latch]

For wright and especially lovebirds I'd suggest bloody knuckles instead of coyotes.

Also for a weapon, backfire is top tier from tanker onward.

[trim wedge]

Love them backfire 3 mil crits

[tame crane]

Ill give it a look, thanks! Anything else that has to be swapped? Or keep the rest the same?

[urban latch]

Mostly just swapping skills as needed to coordinate with your group. It's also really nice to have a FI healer build as well to have that option available.

[trim wedge]

The YouTube bighorn special

No, you can use it but other options are so much more superior

[bold leaf]

If you can reliably hit headshots it does silly damage in PvE

[magic pilot]

3 Golan ew

[trim wedge]

That’s why I said standard YouTube build not “my build” 😂

That triple blue emperors guard is beautiful tho

[magic pilot]

Matador

[trim wedge]

Chest talent is perfectly efficient

I prefer belstone with unbreakable solo , perf eff group

[magic pilot]

Adrenaline rush

Regular WH, fenris, Habsburg, Providence

[trim wedge]

Have you messed with spotter mortar?

[magic pilot]

No not really

Flatline works with skills too though

[lavish grail]

to clarify, i'm talking about the incendiary sticky bomb, not the firestarter chem. i just want a way to take out groups of enemies from behind cover.

[hexed steppe]

Chem is the way you can do that. It was already clarified by others at time sticky didnt work like that. With sticky you need line of sight and in blast radius to be affected. On the other side of cover or wall will be no effect. Firestarter will have a vapor thatll show up on both sides of cover, but it's a smaller radius than oxi.

So firestarter is your way to achieve that. Plus you'll have a bunch or available shots unlike sticky 1 and done till cooldown is finished

[magic pilot]

Look up a guide for exotics

[hexed steppe]

He knows what to do, the great one wills it

The priority objectives and daily projects are solid exo component farms

[lavish grail]

firestarter's 2-step process is just sorta weird/clunky to me

[hexed steppe]

You know about double clicking to ignite chem

[lavish grail]

explain it to me

[hexed steppe]

Fire chem. Double click skill button.

It ignites that way

[lavish grail]

coolio

[hexed steppe]

If you hit a target that's firing theyll ignite it for you

Its really good once you get the hang of it. You may also be able to use survivalist incendiary grenade if you really just dont like the fire chem. It wont be as strong but I think it also able to bypass some cover.

[lavish grail]

even if it can't go through cover, you couldn't fire a sticky over a piece of cover?

[hazy harbor]

I’m currently running an all red strikers build but want to try some variations with more survivability. Does a quick and dirty build with 2 pc belstone, 4 pc striker, and a gun with preservation make sense? I mostly play solo and have beat some heroic content, but get shredded sometimes on the all red build.

[versed flame]

Anything is possible!But this will reduce the damage several times, but it won't make a tank!

[hazy harbor]

Ok, just use the Heartbreaker build from the gear spreadsheet?

Awesome, thank you!

[bright raptor]

on both versions you want the shield anyway

heal drones just tell other people that they're going to get some carrying done

[subtle bluff]

No the kingbreaker. It is has too low of rpm now to work with HB. M4 types ARs, Vector 45/Dark Winter, basically anything with rpm of 800 or up other else you won't build stacks fast enough to make it worth it.

[subtle bluff]

Why repair drone on HB.... You're you're building armor already and a shield.

[onyx sage]

that's what he's saying

[hexed steppe]

No it doesn arc like the chems.
You may be able to tack it to cover behind npc if it put them in the radius. You could also try and stick it to the floor next to the npc, but npc has to be in radius of blast

[onyx sage]

sticky bomb doesn't hit if there's no line of sight on the enemy, even if it's within the radius. that's imo the best way to put it

chem (oxi or fire) will hit anything within radius regardless of LOS

[subtle bluff]

When aiming the skill you should see the circle go red when it'll hit an enemy.

[hexed steppe]

Yeah. I did mention los before so I'm sure its understood

[hexed steppe]

The issue is about NPCs in cover. And trying to burn with sticky. Instant use like you mention is best practice for usage, no doubt

[subtle bluff]

Ah

[lyric jungle]

what could replace the matador bp since i dont have it and need to go in dz or conflit to farm it?

[tulip charm]

a normal ad rush backpack like gila, golan, or whatever

[lyric jungle]

ty

[torpid mica]

This is my current build. Don’t consider myself an expert by any means just enjoy playing it. I’m only doing hard levels at the moment, but problem is I need to take the plunge to the next level as I’m not getting any new stuff that’s worthwhile

[versed flame]

Why 5????

[torpid mica]

Open to suggestions I have no idea 😂

[kindred mango]

Needs Crusader shield, a gun with Flatline and Technician’s Linked laser pointer mod, Ceska Vigilance backpack. That’d be a good tune up

[versed flame]

This is not the first part with secret sets!!))

Blue modifiers, tell me that this is not protection from the elite!?))

[torpid mica]

Cheers mate!! My inventory and stash are full so improbably have some in there

[torpid mica]

Glad I’ve come here now as I’m not sure what’s the best modifies to have, just been winging it tbh

[versed flame]

crit chance,crit damage

[torpid mica]

Guess what I have so far has done me okay on hard mode but probably won’t suffice moving up then

[versed flame]

if the build is sniper-head damage, if turrets-acceleration

[torpid mica]

I do love my turrets, tried others but just found the turrets were the best for me.

[versed flame]

Yes, it will be harder on heroism + directives

No, there's just a build purely for damage from turrets and drones!

[torpid mica]

Where do I find all this stuff out?? Any recommended watches or reads?

[kindred mango]

Gun with flatline talent and linked laser pointer will proc Heartbreaker and give you damage and bonus armour. Vigilance backpack is damage buff and the shield lets you keep that up

[torpid mica]

Cheers pal! No what I’m doing next time I switch on

I’ll post back if it’s okay when I sort it

[kindred mango]

NP I am no build wiz but that should help

There is a pin here linking to a very nice spreadsheet with lots of builds. Check that out

[trim wedge]

Any spotter dz builds ?

[blazing egret]

Do I switch back to strikers gear set or is there something else with better DPS, coming back to division after a pause need some advice

[torpid mica]

Cheers man!! That’s exactly what I’m looking for

[glad heart]

Updated striker build, they say is still top dog:https://lite.evernote.com/note/0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a

[blazing egret]

appreciate it 👍

[urban latch]

Check out the pinned Google doc, bunch of info and guides in there including heartbreaker's guide.

If your stash and inventory are full at shd200 then that just means your hoarding a whole bunch of stuff you'll never need. Basic check if something is useful, it should be 1 recalibration away from having all correct rolls for a build. If it doesn't, no matter how high the rolls are, it's junk. Junk with high/max rolls are good for adding to your recalibration library, but outside that aren't worth hanging onto just because something has a high roll.

[torpid mica]

Cheers @urban latch I know I’m a real hoarder

[versed flame]

pestilence- exotic machine gun for this build

[urban latch]

I get it, right now you don't really understand what is worth keeping, so you just hang onto everything. Going through the build guides in the spreadsheet will give you a better understanding of what's useful, which will also let you know what you can get rid of

[worn mango]

Once you get a singular build and optimize it, it's easier to be selective and expand your build repertoire out while looking for specific gear. If you take too broad of an approach it's way too hard to know what you're looking for. Build the popular/easy stuff to get you going and then work from there

[blazing egret]

wait replace st elmo's with pestilence. can you provide more information why?

[versed flame]

It's been improved!and he's good at this build!Just try it!

[blazing egret]

ill give it a go, appreciate it.😁

[urban latch]

For what it's worth I prefer the vigi/shield setup you've got over running the backpack and lmg

But it's ultimately down to preference between the two

[worn mango]

Yeah I'm not a fan of the LMG gameplay. Long reloads plus the bloom accuracy nonsense. Just decreases mobility and while you have a big mag, the reload will just take so long in a lot of cases. A quick reload big mag AR will nearly outperform when you're talking burst dps

[vocal flax]

Some build with capacitor

[magic pilot]

Walker over fenris here

[subtle bluff]

Pesti is pretty good actually.

[worn mango]

No doubt, I just like my HE AR's for OD too much

And I will not hear anything about the Carnage, hate that thing

[subtle bluff]

For OD I'd rather go Rifle or AR.

Naw same boat. My issue running Carnage is if you're good at keep ammo in both guys then sure it's a good weapon to have has backup or swap around.

[worn mango]

Yeah, Lexington just reloads so damn quick, super accurate, can't really be beat

[kindred mango]

I like it

[worn mango]

I hear they're nerfing it but I don't think it'll matter a ton. I haven't kept up with whatever changes are happening

[fresh fox]

it wont

[rich lotus]

What do you guys think about this PvPvE backfire build i threw together? I could have gone with umbra but i dont really like builds or gameplay elements that cause me to switch up my play style as i am a run and gun/face tank kinda player. This build isnt perfect but i think it’s pretty decent in all aspects. 1.6M armor, unbreakable, 35,400 armor regen, 30% armor on kill, 40% Hazard protection, 60% CHC (atleast with backfire) and 156-356% CHD (again with backfire) and of course i have some extra stats thrown in like smg damage from sokolov, weapon damage from yaahl, health damage, and damage to targets out of cover.

[vivid timber]

Does the overload armaments gear talent apply to marksmen rifles or only rifle?

[jaunty citrus]

Is the aegis gear set good for a build?

[onyx sage]

rifle only

[vivid timber]

😡

[worn mango]

Not really. There's better tank builds so it just doesn't do anything spectacular

[jaunty citrus]

Ok, that's what I thought

[vivid timber]

What other guns do u rec as an alternative to white death?

[onyx sage]

model 700, mantis

[subtle bluff]

I still use my SR1.

[solar berry]

my clutch build. still needs to be polished. more chd and health on each gear piece

its ok in pve, its mainly meant for pvp. can add more blues if needed. but a decent 3/3 red and blue balance is ok to

you mainly stack into health since it will help you alot when arm gets depleted. but clutch def needs a buff. please devs, revive my man. atleast a bigger threshold. 20% perfect bp is low even in gunfights

[subtle bluff]

Clutch isn’t good and even less in PvP.
Dev’s aren’t reading these channels for this.

[solar berry]

Ik they aren’t. But in general for anyone looking at clutch. That’s how you build it

Health and chd, on a smg build. Blues help survivability in general. But to much blue can harm your dmg.

[trim wedge]

What’s a good chc/chd to shoot for with this build ?

Something new I’m trying out for dz

[hoary seal]

better off using 4p umbra w/ chest, contractors and then vigi bag with whatever u prefer

[trim wedge]

I run it like this so that the iron lung is a laser

[hoary seal]

wouldnt worry about chd when it comes to umbra since its gonna give like 200 chd at max stacks so invest in chc rather

[trim wedge]

Gotcha

[hoary seal]

vigi will hit hard esp

esp when running a decoy

that burst damage is gonna surprise ppl

[trim wedge]

yeah I have a vigi setup just seen some people running this so I wanted to try it

I’m a huge fun of the ninja bike she’s my baby

[hoary seal]

yeah, im sure console is a diff ball game when it comes to builds wise but typically the playstyle with iron is range. but if it works with ninja for u then thats good. but id atleast not worry too much about chd since the umbra already gives so much at max stacks

[trim wedge]

Yeah I’m new to umbra but on console you try to throw in some weapon handling and accuracy unless your face tanking folks

I do have a question tho so I have this build

I had it all rolled armour regen then changed the regen to chd

And I love the build so I can’t let it go but I’m not getting its full potential I feel

I switch out chest piece to perf efficient in groups

But should I switch ninja bike with Gila adren rush?

Basically use cover to your advantage you build stacks while in cover

[hoary seal]

umbra works by 2 sides of it. One being in cover and out of cover. while out of cover and IN combat u gain stacks that when u go in cover u regain armor. while in cover, u gain stacks that give rpm and chd

[odd elk]

just duck into cover for like 5 seconds then jump out

[hoary seal]

but its been bugged for a lil by needing to swap a piece off, then put that same piece back on

[sullen sun]

Can I theoretically use perpetuation on an OD build? Is it better dmg than sadist?

[odd elk]

i havent had this happen

[hoary seal]

everytime ive put it on, ive needed to swap my chest off and put it back on for the set to work

sometimes it fixes itself no issue but

the game just works ig

[odd elk]

you do need to be in combat to make your stacks

[hoary seal]

im aware

[odd elk]

i dunno if thats a factor

weird ig

[hoary seal]

ye

[subtle bluff]

Nothing can really beat sadist amp dmg % that can be proc as easily.

[magic pilot]

Honeslty sadist is one of the best talents period

[hexed steppe]

itd be nice if perpetuation had a decent setup to use it on at all. only eclipse can really benefit, and only if its like foam/emp.. fire gets more damage out of capacitor.

[subtle bluff]

We aren’t.. But isn’t not great against things that don’t have Heads.

It’s just a normal AR without any talents against, Tanks, Dogs, and Chungs till the helmet breaks.

[hexed steppe]

swap to mortar when doing invaded/legendary, problem solved
Mortar Supremacy

it gets spent on the helmet

but applies afaik

[subtle bluff]

Armor Plates don’t have a body type.

[hexed steppe]

can check if you have damage numbers print to chat box, and check when you pop a helmet

finally fully unicorned out? 🦄

youll get there. just think, at some point youll have 3 other alts to fill out 😅

last chance to get any easy yaahl mats from the clan vendor. reset is tonight

at some point exo components will be the only bottle neck. thats why im running 4 sets of daily/weekly projects

i was able to get 2 out of the 3 waveforms i needed for alts this week too. he smiled on me this week

thatll be a @magic pilot question. i got nothing on pvp

[trim wedge]

If you have mastered pve step into the dz and get your toes wet

[bold leaf]

Initial damage might be higher but when striker stacks are up that'll do more

That's why most use a shotgun like Rock n Roll to get the striker stacks up very quickly

[trim wedge]

Fly through pve

No stacks needed, can take your time

I trade out the 3 pc prov for the 8 dmg TTOOC and DTA

Chest talent is all in what you prefer unbreakable saves you but isn’t needed when you have hive

Learn spawns kill before they can shoot

[bold leaf]

Still die anyway, in my case

[trim wedge]

Oh yeah I hate all red, just for raids at this point

Kill 2 ads every 30 second build

[hexed steppe]

im over here rocking m1a on striker

it is really nice when you already stacked from the ar

[gentle lichen]

No longer getting trigger finger at least

[hexed steppe]

no doubt

[subtle bluff]

I miss my Six12...

[hexed steppe]

3 prov, contractors, fox's, grupo is how i would run. glass and vig . im pretty selfish when its a choice of running coyote or more chd from grupo. a lot of times there are plenty of coyote

[trim wedge]

I’m a glass hater but I agree switch out coyotes with grupo if in group if solo keep coyotes

[bold leaf]

I deleted Coyote a long time ago; I don't like any of those talents that have range requirements on

[trim wedge]

🤘🏻

[cerulean smelt]

crit pieces = picaro's?

[bold leaf]

You have 9 holsters xD

[worn mango]

Why would you go Prov if you already have three pieces? Are you swapping another out?

[cerulean smelt]

that is curious indeed 🤔

[worn mango]

You'd be better off with Grupo/Ceska based around your CHD/CHC needs

[cerulean smelt]

could be going for contractor's gloves so i could see a providence holster 🤔

[worn mango]

Yeah that's the only thing I was just thinking

Cool, gotcha

[cerulean smelt]

but that has to be some terrible luck on providence holster not giving chc/chd

[worn mango]

Yeah, red rolls are more common

I still think Grupo/Ceska might offer more in terms of flexibility. Petrov, unless you're using an LMG, is kinda going to waste

[cerulean smelt]

well, contractor's is petrov so

[worn mango]

Or even Fenris if you're using primarily AR's

Oh for sure, you'll still have to grab that. If you can do countdown it's easiest to target Prov in there

It do be like that

And yet, there's only one Ongoing Directive. My baby

Sadist is all you need

Sadist, wicked on the backpack and OD chest

Riot foam to proc a status while locking down an enemy and it's gg

I said it earlier but I just hate LMG's lol

The extra 5% or whatever is so negligible

[bold leaf]

Same; it's that suppression thing that irks me

[worn mango]

That and the bloom stuff. Can't be messed with doing that

I always forget if it's accuracy or stability so I just say bloom lol

[shy willow]

This why I use iron lung

[bold leaf]

Bighorn. That's it.

[subtle bluff]

I miss six12

[shy willow]

So busted

[worn mango]

Lol

[bold leaf]

Six12 with brazen and BLB stacks? Omg

[subtle bluff]

When Brazen was bugged that was just silly dumb.. I got to 200mill per pellet.

[worn mango]

Insane

Was it doing some weird multiplicative stuff?

[subtle bluff]

Very weird..

[worn mango]

Must have just been stacking on stacks. The math was mathing too hard

[onyx sage]

you could have multiple brazen instances active

[worn mango]

I don't even remember what brazen does

Don't know if I've ever really used it

[subtle bluff]

A lot of dmg.

[bold leaf]

Adds stacks of amplified damage per shot based on pellet hits

[worn mango]

Oh good old amp

[subtle bluff]

Lost. Recap what the issues? BH has no CHC at all.

[rich lotus]

How much damage do you put out

[trim wedge]

Keep build run Elmo’s instead

Or any preferred ar that doesn’t need headshots

Well nvm you’re pc your guns have 0 recoil

I’m glad someone likes it 😂

Us controller players that don’t use cronus let it collect dust

I use it because …. Laser

Been running capacitor more cause it’s the only assault rifle that can have DTTOOC and DTA

and it’s a laser too

So tiny yet so deadly

No diddy

[rich lotus]

If I’m wanting to run a marksman rifle and assault rifle what armour would best suit

[subtle bluff]

Imo no point run CHC with BH.

[solar berry]

we have recoil. just master it. i do the same when i play on controller

once you master it. its a game changer for any shooter game in general

[azure sandal]

at what point should i start looking at making a build? once i finish the base game and dlc and reach max level? or is that too soon for that?

[solar sable]

You mentioned you already got your SHD watch, right?

[azure sandal]

yes exactly! just got that a bit ago.

[solar sable]

Okay. First, SHD levels don't actually improve the gear you get but the perks given by the watch. DMG, Defense, Skill and Miscellaneous. These perks go all the way to 10% each and they are unlocked on your way to SHD 1000. Don't worry about SHD farming before getting the right build and enough game knowledge just to get into XP farming.

The first build you want to look after is a Striker's build.
This build is focused on dealing DPS and the full set is easier to get than you might think. Challenging Countdown, as I mentioned before, is your best ally for build farming. Just matchmake a few runs and you'll get the build in no time.
To start with the build you'll need:
Coyote's Mask (Exotic Mask; obtainable through Mask Targeted Loot [TL] in Challenging Countdown).
Ceska Chestpiece with Obliterate talent (Ceska Vyroba TL); Main attributes = Crit DMG and Crit Chance (CHD/CHC).
4pc Striker's (Striker's Battlegear TL). Same attributes as above.

Your weapons come to personal preference but in the easy to get POV: St. Elmo's Engine, exotic AR (AR TL); third attribute on it should always be DTTOOC (AKA DTOC and stands for DMG to Target out of Cover).

Please note that you can reroll exotics once you have their blueprint, rerolling costs materials and Exotic Components which are obtained by deconstructing exotics ||-cough- Chamaleons -cough-||

Exotics are rare but you'll eventually get them if you try hard enough.

[azure sandal]

Thank you for the detailed guide! really appreciate your help mate!
Will try that right away! It seemed very overwhelming in the beginning. There is more buttons and menus to navigate than I have time to play 😄

[hexed steppe]

go ahead and box up that Waveform and send it out. addressed to: Localdeck, Washington DC.. i dont know where ill be, but they can follow the mortar sounds when they get here

[shy willow]

It's whole talent is based off hsd which is additive to chd

So generally you build one or the other

[viscid coral]

Does anyone know what combo hits harder for a max crit dps build? (with 3pc providence)
contractors gloves, fox prayer & 1pc grupo
or
Coyote mask, fox prayer & 1pc grupo?

[strong cave]

Situation depends. In long distance, coyotes crit chance buff helps but not too much. It's the mid and short range buff it gives that makes coyotes shine (most fights are close range anyways)

25% extra chd I believe for close range

[tender pulsar]

I wanna change from my skill-dependant build to a AR build with lot of dps, i have a Elmo's Engine and rh i'm farming for a striker set, what else should i look for ?

[strong cave]

You could go high end:

Coyote mask
Fenris chest with crits + obliterate
Grupo holster with crits
Ceska backpack with crits + vigi or unstoppable force
Contractors gloves with CHD
Fox's kneepads with CHD

Skill 1 - shield
Skill 2 - trusty ol reviver hive
Specialization: any. Gunner works best

Guns, any AR/LMG/Rifle will work. Even shotguns. However, stick to those 3 categories bc fenris/contractors/Fox's knees buff those 3 weapon categories.

I personally use Strega on this setup and it HITS stupid hard. St Elmo's will work on this setup, capacitor, basically any exotic

(if you want stackless, instant damage, go with Glass Cannon + Vigilance)

[tender pulsar]

Awesome thank you !

[strong cave]

Striker will always be better for DPS, but this build gives you better variety and you can slot things in however you want without relying on ceska and coyote to carry you to 50 CHC lol

[tender pulsar]

Yup will keep that in mind and looking for what suits me best, but your tips help me a lot !

[strong cave]

Heartbreaker is another great gearset for tankiness AND damage. Basically Striker's fat cousin that refuses to go down

Pair it with exotic backpack memento and use flatline weapons with linked Laser Pointer and you'll basically never die so long as you keep killing 🤠

[tender pulsar]

I'm loving how i have all exotics you say in my stash hehe, testing will be fun 😛

[strong cave]

Basically the best exotics so far for damage or good utility is coyote, memento, centurions scabbard, BTSU gloves, waveform and Dodge city

[tender pulsar]

Yeah i already used the Coyote and it's awesome

[strong cave]

Some can argue catharsis but that's more a pvp thing

I'm waiting to see how master difficulty hits. Wondering about this "Oppressor" exotic or whatever they named the damn thing. It's basically knockoff Aegis talent but as a wasted chest plate slot instead

I got a tardigrade pvp build I wanna slap it on and convert it to an oppressor build. Would damage reduction be worth it? Or is Tardigrade still on top? We will soon find out 🤷

[burnt gate]

The new chest drops with Armour core, regen and hazpro

[strong cave]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😈

but wait, is this a fixed drop or is it like acostas kneepads??? Bc if I can get Regen and crit, that would be godly

If not hazpro and Regen are still solid attributes for that

Pair that with Ad Rush 😩

New pvp toy I cannot wait

Oh it's the provocator 😂😂

Oppressor sounds cooler

[burnt gate]

They never told us anything about it except listing the talent on the patch notes. Someone else can find out because I'm never doing master more than once. I have ptsd now 🫣

[strong cave]

It's that hard?

Sounds to me like my buddy's Ridgeway foundry build is gonna come in handy on this one 💀💀

[burnt gate]

It's not "hard" but it's tedious. I ran through with a PFE build, a revive hive and shield, went down once. The biggest issue is the mechanic of non stop enemy spawns until you complete objectives.

But I definitely recommend PFE tank with crit rolls. I tried it in a random group and everyone was dropping like flies.

It'll be good to see what builds people use for it.

[strong cave]

I get the feeling tech tanks will be "meta" for this one, or damage foundry. Obviously striker might be viable but there's gonna have to be a healer and maybe striker with some blues

[subtle bluff]

High rate drop

[strong cave]

Give the speed runners about 30m and they'll be telling us how to get 11m clears... Or let MrChow school us on this one 🤠

[subtle bluff]

Hi

[strong cave]

Nah the chests attributes

[subtle bluff]

Not there yet. Current speed is 17mins

[subtle bluff]

It's fixed.

[strong cave]

Damnnn :(( but hey hazpro and Regen are good attributes

Tardi comes with explo res

[subtle bluff]

Watching it looks interesting. That's a lot of spawns.

I'll be on my tech tank for the first run.

[strong cave]

Lol didn't I call it 😂😂

[strong cave]

How would striker with 4 blues, ninja bike and tech work? Should at least bring you to Shield tier 6 and the extra skill tiers should boost the Artificer hive

I know I'm entertaining the idea of ninja bike asspack but I wonder how it would perform. Will have to find time this week and finish my last 2 manhunt scouts and give Master a try with it

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwVgtMYMxgjHYAMSXLajiBcJzvgVOsRJqllACzQqSQAckJzmW9Ny8L3rlAbGErIYTMj2JZgATg4JxY8sD4DqsWJFj0ZsKZykEpoiaBmrEAdjDhgyZQuzzuWShRnnLjMPS6tYlqPBQMFAyzEA

This would be my build for attempting mastery. Sounds really stupid and looks stupid but isn't there modifiers on Master difficulty? Bc if so, you should be getting damage buffs from modifiers

[bright raptor]

nah you just get a bunch of stupid deaths from the enemy fire ammo modifier

[patent fossil]

I'm planning EB memento striker, with 3b it's a good mix of tanky and damage. Can't test it out on the new mission until I get off work though 😢

[fair dragon]

Provocateur Mk II

[fair dragon]

I'd do it with Catharsis + PFE Strikers if I wasn't 5000 miles from home

[strong cave]

Sounds like it's gonna be a striker hazpro build with backfire

[strong cave]

It might work. I'm assuming it's gonna be Legendary but with modifiers so it likely won't be often I'll be running around picking up trophies

[fair dragon]

Modifiers are optional

[winged prism]

has the lvoa-c been nerfed since it became one of the best AR´s or can i still use it

havent been on in a while

[fair dragon]

Nerf is for next update

[winged prism]

good to know, hopefully they dont destroy it like they do with alot of nerfs

itd be nice if they kept it viable

[worn mango]

Damn, didn't know a lot of nerf just destroys things

[winged prism]

definitely not all the time, but basically since 2020 they just sorta roll the dice and nerf fun weapons each season

[fair dragon]

Its only a 1.1% nerf, not gonna change much

[worn mango]

Unusable, broken game

[magic pilot]

It's by far the best AR still

[worn mango]

I heard all guns are just bad

Melee OP

[fair dragon]

Literally unplayable

[winged prism]

oh nice

[winged prism]

so true 💔

[strong cave]

Gonna run the basic ass 3 then: All out active modifier with sub mods being: by the teeth, the one with weapon stability and the one with the 3 zone bonuses. Play long range lol and cheese the distance modifier

[mint axle]

As someone who died while 11 hyenas were using fire ammo, I can confirm it.

[worn mango]

I've refrained from using Striker's any time I've played just out of arbitrary rules. Even with awful guns and modifiers this kit is just nutty. Non proficient bluescreen hitting 2M crits lol

[formal hatch]

best assoult rifle ? high end (no lexington i don’t have it)

[worn mango]

FAMAS, FAL, F2000

C-TAR and Honey Badger are also option

[hoary sail]

well that is personal i think, some are better than other but not that much

[magic pilot]

All are pretty close

[bright raptor]

the main distinguishing factor for most will be if they're doing Spotter/Heartbreaker with Flatline and whether it has a long rail for the pulse laser

[trim wedge]

Anyone have a spotter dark zone build I could take a peak at?

[versed summit]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c/Lwcf9s0bVawZJtN8zjC1O0GGNSpeRdpG5Fr1s88w2t1z2qtqQ_AnNvz4sQ

good bill in here^

[onyx sage]

sir

[versed summit]

don't patronize me

[onyx sage]

I'm sorry i have doubted your wisdom, sir

[versed summit]

but what are the chances I'm not?

[shy willow]

critical hit junkies

[solar berry]

Aegis stacks with the new exo chest 👀

[mint axle]

Why wouldn't it?

[solar berry]

I was curious… so that means it can be up to 50% Dr

my new hsd arm regen build

[trim wedge]

Does it preform?

[worn mango]

I think it postforms personally

[solar berry]

It’s not bad. Ob momento is better overall. For more regen and awd on pickups. But not to bad. Eb… bro you are tanking shots when tenacity is proc

Chest is good cqb fights. HF smg build do good with it

[magic pilot]

No defender drone

[magic pilot]

2 Golan matador> 3 Gila

[solar berry]

Don’t have matador

[subtle bluff]

Just to note it's only 20% in PvP.

[winged prism]

can someone post pic of new chestpiece stats pls

[magic pilot]

25% dmg protection from enemies within 20m

[winged prism]

hm

[warm knot]

Chill out mask worth anything? I've been collecting a ton of those.

[magic pilot]

Niche uses in the raids

[winged prism]

idk if id use that tbh, i can see alot of ways it could be cool tho

[vestal ibex]

It's mostly good if you want the brand bonus. Outside of that it's meh.

[winged prism]

yeah

i heard they nerfed it too? was 35%

could be wrong

[magic pilot]

Yes

20% in pvp 25% in pve now

[winged prism]

damn thats sad

[trim wedge]

Question and I think Ik the answer but ima check myself, won’t 99% pulse resistance work?

Still says you’ve been pulsed but you haven’t

[magic pilot]

Yea it's fine

HB can stack armor on you still tho

[vestal ibex]

Just keep a couple mods in that case.

[trim wedge]

But with 100% HB won’t stack? Good to know

[vestal ibex]

Just swap if you are fighting HB peeps.

[trim wedge]

Haven’t seen much HB lately NGL

[vestal ibex]

Exactly, easier to just keep a mod around incase some youtube trend hits again.

[trim wedge]

Yeah I have the 10% mod but my buddy doesn’t and he was copying my build. And asked me if 99% works but I wasn’t sure

I feel like getting a 9.9% mod is a way of the devs getting off

[bold leaf]

I'm trying to compare two builds I have to find out why one does more damage than the other when it seemed like it wouldn't. Using the Division 2 build tool it shows the one with higher CHD to do more damage per shot, but in game it's the opposite. Is the shooting range not worth it for damage numbers?

[hoary sail]

well it can give a idea but better to test ur build in the battlefield

[vestal ibex]

Pinned messages has a DPS calc. Put your numbers into that.

[urban latch]

The build tools dps calc doesn't take everything into account and isn't all that reliable. If you have both builds put together you can go to the range and get the basic inputs you need to check for yourself, a crit hit, non crit, and the rpm. With those you can calc burst, with reload as well you can calc sustain DPS. There's a DPS calc in the pinned spreadsheet (the one with my name) that takes those inputs and does the math for you.

If you don't have the pieces together and are just at the theory crafting stage it takes a little more work to gather all the inputs. If you want to do it that way check out iKias DPS calc spreadsheets, which are also linked in the pinned Google doc

[bold leaf]

Great, thanks all!

[warm vault]

Question im using hunter fury 1866 rifle one shot determined build and on challenging i clear everythjng no problem get up to 24m damage in chainkiller but when i switch to heroic i get downed instantly and barely do over 14m damage sometimes not even killing elites wats the reason for this huge diff/any tips?

Do i need more red cores? Is it survivability? Idk why heroic is so much harder/mildly impossible when challenging is so easy

[tame crane]

I run this and have no problem on Heroic

All red cores with The Sacrifice so not the best survivability but just clear them before you die🙏🏼

Old sniper build tho, maybe meta is different now but still works great for me

[onyx sage]

it's still good

pistol is now magnum tho

[solar sable]

DPS means DMG per second, not per shot.

[bold leaf]

Yeah I know, I was trying to figure out why a crit shot was higher than I expected, not necessarily the Damage Per Second

[onyx sage]

if you have different talents on each build, the build tool is notorious for not accounting for talents so it's usually the issue

[kindred mango]

You need to hit for around 9.8m to one shot an elite on Heroic (solo)

[urban latch]

Are you not getting to max stacks, or is the build different? We don't really have enough information to know what's going on based on what you've said

[warm vault]

4 piece hunter fury palisade chest for armor on kill with chainkiller im past the 150% headshot damage with determined 1866 nemesis and sharpshooter tac 50

I kill with tac 50 or nemsis but i cap out at around 14m damage on heroic while challenging im easily passing 25m damage

Does heroic have diff armor values or i just need to adjust some damage numbers cuz heroic feels like im not getting my max values anymore

[urban latch]

the damage you do at cap shouldnt change just because of a different difficulty setting, so something else is going on

difficulty effect the amount of health enemies have, not the amount of damage being done

[warm vault]

Thats wat i assumed so i dont understand my problem then

[urban latch]

a recording or screenshots might help

[warm vault]

I thought it was the hunter fury buff and me not being close enough to activate but ive still never seen my cap go above 18m on heroic

[pale cargo]

Is anyone able to help me level up on Xbox

[urban latch]

did your modifiers get activated or deactivated?

[trim wedge]

Need all headshot dmg not chc or chd

[warm vault]

All the reds are hsd the chc/chd is leftover from other stats

Im just so confused cuz i steamroll challenging hitting 24m but heroic i get steamrolled doing like 3/4 of the damage idk where im losing out on 6m damage

[trim wedge]

Ah hell idk then should be one shotting

[warm vault]

Yea ill figure it out ig stupid game

[trim wedge]

Try changing bag out for vigilance

And chest out with named headhunter chest

Keep trying different stuff I had the Hunter fury build and I deleted it, hotshot is too good

[onyx sage]

i was going to say, maybe memento stacks not being high enough?

every time you die you lose stacks

[vestal ibex]

^

[onyx sage]

hunter's fury is stronger when you use shotgun and play close

[vestal ibex]

24 mill might also be with HF stacks.

[onyx sage]

that sounds like 1886 with everything maxed yeah

[solar berry]

non invaded ye

[graceful coral]

@low narwhal guess we playing Tarkov now
(is it any good)

[low narwhal]

Not really but fun to try I guess. I read that if you build has a bit of weapon handling, it can be a fun gun to use.

Maybe good gun to use in artillery build since it gets boosted by explosive damage attribute

[graceful coral]

OF COURSE IT GIVES ME A CESKA VEST AFTER I ALREADY GOT ONE
MOTHER F-

(doesn't even have the good perk...)

[bleak sequoia]

wow! this is worthless.gif

[graceful coral]

pretty much yeah

[low narwhal]

Ahh I was helping someone out together their striker build and luckily I dropped a Ceska chest w CHC/CHD for them also. Some people have it easy😂

[subtle bluff]

It's a fun gun if that's you're thing. My old build for it was umbra and enough WH so there wouldn't much recoil and it was fun to run in CD and some stuff.

[low narwhal]

That’s a cool build to try tbh

[distant mountain]

As a healer for the scorpion would i roll for fire rate or magazine size ?

[tall ore]

What is a good build for the new exotic chest piece?

[versed summit]

Don’t really know yet lol, but it could work on PvP regen or PvE PFE builds

IMO it’s not better than intimdate or vanguard for their respective uses

It could be better than efficient+catharsis, but that’s a big maybe

[fresh fox]

why the habs bag

[shy willow]

Rn you're losing so much damage from the dead chest talent and dead brand bonuses

Ninja is not that great for builds either due to it essentially losing a talent

Memento also has 3 cores but a very powerful talent maybe try that out

And then if you're going for crit there's 4 piece sets like HF that are very good

You can slot Lexington into basically any DPS type build

Negotiators, striker, umbra etc

Looks good

I run a similar setup with intimidate instead of unbreakable

[stray dune]

Keep getting destroyed in anything above hard. Any ideas?

[verbal helm]

Play more

[shy willow]

The high end prov setup is generally 3 prov (w/ perfect glass cannon and vigi), 1 grupo, foxes prayer and contractors gloves

Can replace grupo with coyote mask

[tame crane]

Try this Ouro set up 🙂 works wonders

4pc striker with Coyote and Grupo with Obliterate

[stray dune]

Helpful

Ty coin

[hazy steeple]

If someone is stuck on Hard difficulty, it's unlikely that they have the Ouro.

[ancient dune]

Striker chest sucks in content where you can't stack to 200 stacks

[tame crane]

He has it in the picture hehe

[ancient dune]

They do have the ouro in the screenshot before haha

[hazy steeple]

So you can run a Heroic incursion but a Hard mission is too tough?

Fair enough.

[ancient dune]

Also your backpack talent isn't great and that's one of the highest impact parts of your build so you're losing a lot of damage there

[stray dune]

Solo heroic is very hard for me, I get shot down too easily.

[tame crane]

You dont have too much surviablity with this build, but it does so much dmg that you shouldnt have any issues, you kill them before they kill you

[ancient dune]

That's sorta a playstyle issue in the end you have to play around cover more carefully

but being able to dish out damage faster will help you

[stray dune]

Yeah I gotta be more patient lol and lose the sniper maybe? Go for AR?

[tame crane]

I run ACS/Rock N Roll to build stacks

[cyan drift]

clan vendor this week

[tame crane]

dont really need second ar wiith Ouro

[hazy steeple]

You will increase your overall DPS if you swap to a Ceska chest, instead of a Grupo.
Ouro can build stacks on its own, it's kind of silly.

[ancient dune]

I would lose the sniper for an AR imo so you can take safer distances

[stray dune]

I do have a rock and roll

[tame crane]

Yeah true tho Ouro has crazy RPM so

[stray dune]

But then I’m stuck at close range

[tame crane]

Would a Famas maybe be a good secondary?

[stray dune]

I saw a build guide that recommended Dana’s

Famas

[ancient dune]

Lexington is ideal if you have it, famas is fine too though

[hazy steeple]

A regular ACS is superior to a Rock&Roll, since you can get a proper Talent on it.

[tame crane]

I already have 50+ % crit chance with Grupo, rather keep the Grupo then for the Damage no?

[hazy steeple]

That extra mag size is not useful, since you can already nearly max out your stacks without the boost.

[stray dune]

Rivens the AI lesbian is a hell of a name btw lmao

[hazy steeple]

I'm gay, and I once got accused of being a bot due to my copy+pasted responses.
I change the "ai" part fairly regularly.

[tame crane]

I run Ceska on my Elmo DPS to since I lose out on the Crit Chance from swapping Ouro

[hazy steeple]

It's still better to use Ceska, so you can have more CHD attribute rolls.

[ancient dune]

You can also do Lefty which can uniquely take an RPM mod unlike normal AA12s

[hazy steeple]

CHD rolls are 12%, chc rolls are 6%, basically.

[stray dune]

So go Ceska chest? What piece of strikers do I farm for replacement

[hazy steeple]

Lefty is a great alternative, if you can make use of the Talent.

[ancient dune]

If any of your strikers pieces has CHC replace it with one with CHD

[hazy steeple]

Ceska Chest, Coyotes Mask, the rest go Strikers.
That's a fairly standard build.

[ancient dune]

or just recalibrate it really

[stray dune]

Kk thanks for the ideas everyone

[hazy steeple]

If you're farming out a Ceska chest, make sure you take the time to get one with 2 crit stats natively, and Obliterate if possible.
That way you can use it for a lot of different builds.

[tame crane]

well the left one is with Ceska, right one is with Grupo, you think ceska would be better dps?

[hazy steeple]

Without even looking at the stats: yes.

Attribute rolls across your build are important, you can squeeze a lot of extra DPS out of it if you have more space for CHD rolls.

[tame crane]

Trading 7% more CHC for 15% CHD? I thought I would be better off with Grupo

[hazy steeple]

A Coyotes setup ideally wants between 50 and 55% CHC, just in case you wander outside of the ideal range.

Especially if you take the AR+acs route.

[onyx sage]

ceska lets you squeeze out more chd

[tame crane]

Yeah thats what I had in mind, with Ceska I would be at 60% CHC

[onyx sage]

you can change one of your rolls to chd

[hazy steeple]

Perfect!

[tame crane]

yeah with that + CHD mod I get 60% CHC and 163% CHD

[ancient dune]

that being said if you run a SMG/AR mixup you might even want to leave it as is since the AR would have lower chance

[tame crane]

I usually never run SMG/AR, just switch from SMG DPS to AR DPS depending on the situation I am in

[ancient dune]

I can't quite recall if ouro caps chance with all chd attributes on gear

[hazy steeple]

The SHD watch also gives you +10% CHC, and +20% CHD, so you can take that into effect if you are wihtout them yet.

[tame crane]

My CHC and CHD on SHD watch are maxed

[ancient dune]

Okay so purely for comparison purposes we can do CHC * CHD on 2 builds with the exact same stats in other areas to see which one deals more damage

60 * 162.7 > 53 * 175.7, you can see for yourself

[onyx sage]

🤓

[tame crane]

Okay I will give it a shot, thought 60% chc just could have been a lil overkill

[ancient dune]

It's a simplification from a bigger formula so it doesn't tell you how much better one is than the other, I would assume it's like 1~2% tops

But it is a little better haha

[ancient dune]

😠

leave me outside zoo one more time see how sad that makes me

[tame crane]

Yeah 😄 On my Elmo build however, with Ceska and CHD mods I have 45% / 167,7%, if I switch the CHD mod to CHC, I get 50,5% / 155,9%. With the math it would be wiser once again to go with the higher CHC, which also lands me at the 50% mark with the Coyote? 😄

[ancient dune]

Yup taking medium buff with coyote would push that to cap at 60% with only 0.5% wasted too which is pretty great

[tame crane]

Great alright cheers, will switch out the Grupo on the Ouro and CHD mod to CHC on the Elmo Ceska

Also, any tips on how you guys manage/sort your mods? Do you keep at least one mod or two for each category? Like keep blue mods on me even if I dont even have a build with blue mods?

[onyx sage]

trash all armor on kill and incoming repair mods

keep god roll red and yellow mods

if you have surplus, give to mules

[tame crane]

Mules?

Oh as in second character(s)?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[tame crane]

Also, is farming countdown with Gear System Mods a viable way to try and geat god roll mods?

never tried that actually

[onyx sage]

you can, i'd recommend summit legendary tho

[tame crane]

Alright cheers I appreciate that, getting back from a long break. Also curious about if they have done something/changed the Exotic components? How many you get as from previous? I dont remember taking a break with that many in my inventory

[onyx sage]

you definitely can get them a lot easier now

[tame crane]

Great, any of the 2 Exotics in this season pass that are usable?

[tulip charm]

They’re both good

[tame crane]

Good to hear, gotta cop the Pass then

Even though they are free, makes it more worth grinding it

What is the desired Talent on an ACS12?

Flatline? Or was it something else

[shy willow]

If you're running striker you're normally only using it to stack anyway

I either use lefty or fast hands

[tame crane]

Yeah just using it for stacks just wanna have the best one possible hehe

More so for the novelty than actual use

[tulip charm]

Flatline if you’re running pulse, brazen for damage, fast hands for reload

[onyx sage]

short answer brazen

[hexed steppe]

acs never really needed to stack tho. if its really desired use lefty and give a team buff when opportunity arrives

[boreal ingot]

What is the best skill for CC build, I know foam for 1 what othre skill should I give my toon so it can cc as much as possible? if firefly the blind one good?

[gloomy spruce]

Shock trap

At tier 6 shock trap has impressive range and hold ability

Above heroic, blinder firefly has dramatically decreased effectiveness.

[keen meteor]

Sledge was nerfed and only buffs the user now

[hexed steppe]

use foam and fire sticky. fire sticky offers a lot of damage . are you a traditional eclipse build with ep bag? or is it for pure cc and creeping death

[hexed steppe]

reverted right after. it is less damage tho, but benefits team still

[keen meteor]

Oh hey, nice

[boreal ingot]

pure cc with creeping death

I use eclipse bag on my burn build

[boreal ingot]

wait really? I normally use left because I thought it buff team, if it buff only me no use in using it anymore, there are better weapon out there

[bright raptor]

literally two messages down is the clarification that they went back on it

[hazy steeple]

Since this is a public server, you should get used to people re-asking questions that are answered on the same page.
It's just a fact of life on here.

[boreal ingot]

lol yeah I miss, didn't concentrate on that XD

[violet juniper]

Brazen or close and personal imo

[hexed steppe]

ok, jammer pulse is good depending on content, same with emp sticky.
-couple variations for cc you may like- using acostas go bag or btsu/stinger hive combo for an overcharge setup.
-use scorpio/stage left or lefty and run a setup uzina named bag with perfect opportunistic.

hear me out for a sec. if youre using cc eclipse, its a given that you are using in a team and not solo. creeping is a great talent so wont knock it too much, but i dont think its really strong in eclipse. the spread is definitely nice, but if your team is melting things anyways you wont really need the extra aoe from creeping. just need to have one statused npc and your team will chase that foam around the area. the extra amp damage from opportunistic is really good and kinda allows you to reclaim some of your damage while also boosting the team. scorpio/opp/survivalist/sledge gives 4 different team damage buffs.

[strong cave]

I might convert my build to use an electrique backpack with opp on it and use BTSU for team overcharge. I'm usually running a stinger hive and firestarter chem, could easily swap it to foam

Specialization I usually just run firewall bc of the burn damage. Never thought to give survivalist a try. Would tech be worth it at all?

[shy willow]

Survivalist is cool for cc with the 10 percent free amp for your team

Tech doesn't really offer anything for eclipse tbh

[solemn otter]

Is obliterate good for dark winter? People keep telling me to use it (chest piece)

[shy willow]

It's good for any crit based build