td2-build-advice

[wanton rose]

its getting buffed is it now ?

[tulip charm]

Depends

It dont matter aslong as you can one shot

[hexed steppe]

If you check the pts patch notes you can get an idea of the weapon damage changes. Idk if itll be exact numbers that release but theyll be close.
#news-and-announcements I believe has it, or on trello board

[magic pilot]

If you are using hotshot you need an mmr

[ornate breach]

tell me when

[hazy steeple]

@ornate breach They'll ping you down in #lfg-raid-pc

[ornate breach]

is it illegal to say that I am in?

[rich cosmos]

?

[tawdry raven]

So I had lightbulb go off while playing the manhunt for the project. Why not rework the Oreo talent cuz it's getting nerfed into the grave to do something with the eclipse virus, a new status effect would be cool for a raid weapon

[versed summit]

Is it that bad tbh? I can’t think of what an eclipse status effect would look like though tbh, and the bigger question is how it would apply it. I’d actually be kinda fire with St. Elmo’s Engine’s talent, since you go through rounds so quickly lol

[tawdry raven]

I was thinking just reuse Elmo talent but ppl think Elmo talent is mid even tho Oreo would stack it faster so idk. And when I used it in pts it felt underwhelming to the dark winter so I think it's done for

[red island]

Elmo talent is not great but it's fine

Oreo talent is straight up garbage

[tawdry raven]

Oreo is keeners weapon so it doing eclipse virus DMG as a talent would be pretty cool/lore accurate

[red island]

Oreo isnt keener weapon

Keener use à vector iirc

Forgot the name

[versed summit]

I’d have to try it out myself. I’m not sure I’d want a Vector without fast hands given how bad the sustain is. Maybe it is DOA tho

[tawdry raven]

The description is about keener and the design matches the latest keener outfit we got

[versed summit]

He uses a banshee

[tawdry raven]

If u use fast hands ur prob better off with oreo

[red island]

Yeah that one

[tawdry raven]

But a DMG talent def puts it past oreo

[versed summit]

That’s kind of how St. Elmo’s Engine is atm

[red island]

Yeah but oreo is always good

Any smg with talent need you to proc it

[versed summit]

Some are harder to proc than others

[red island]

Yeah, but my point is oreo is always at the same state

[hazy steeple]

Give close+personal to Ouro and let's see if people still like it.

[red island]

Calm down Satan

[tawdry raven]

I'm just glad everyone seems to agree the EB nerf is overkill so maybe it'll get buffed from pts

[versed summit]

I mean, they did nerf it. SMGs are a lot more competitive, and talents like fast hands and optimist aren’t difficult to proc

[hazy steeple]

EB getting nerfed is just the next step in its cycle.
It's been on a rotation of buff>nerf>buff>nerf, etc since 2019.

[tawdry raven]

I'm just curious why they wanted the stats to be nearly identical to elmo

[versed summit]

Seems pretty fair. Tenacity is a better talent but St. Elmo’s Engine has the advantage of better handling

[tawdry raven]

It just feels like a cheap tactic to make players not feel left out for not having the EB

[versed summit]

Eh, doesn’t make sense. Seems like the opposite of what they’d want

They are confusing sometimes tho

[tawdry raven]

The raids are huge turn offs for a lot of new players. Was a turn off when I started playing but it kinda got to a point it was one of the last things to do

[honest moss]

Using an eclipse CC setup, should i worry about proccing sledgehammer? Will be running survivalist anyway and figure it will be good given the support aspect of CC but i would be likely replacing perpetuation for this at the moment. I often forget to use perp but it is on a rifle so gives me range with my scorpio. This setup is a wip so generally speaking.

Oooo stage left nevermind.

Input still appreciated. I am working towards a similar one from the spreadsheet. But i won't turn down advice!

[onyx sage]

you mostly only proc sledge when it's convenient for you and dps

if there are say too many enemies, you're better off just focusing on foaming them because it's more urgent for your dps to stay alive and they're too spread out for sledge to do anything. but if say there's one big spawn coming out of a door and you can prep beforehand, it's always appreciated

[hexed steppe]

whats the main use? sledge is gonna be better if you can hit spawns often. perpetuation will only affect the status you apply from a skill, ep spread will eat the perp proc but not actually be affected

my countdown setup, basically using the same things as you mention

[honest moss]

Thanks, and yeah i get it. This is the build i am working on except i may do creeping death but undecided for now. Appreciated.

[magic pilot]

No lefty is interesting, I'd use it to proc opp too

[honest moss]

Got it, thank you!

[magic pilot]

I think local plays similar builds to me but in a different way it's very interesting

[honest moss]

My old usual setup for pure CC was all skill haste, dragon's glare holster and i last had on the courier. But i have tried regular CD too and it is also just as good. But i have been working on finalizing builds. Think hazpro eclipse will be better overall.

[magic pilot]

That one he uses for countdown extraction

The normal one is courier, btsu or electrique 4 eclipse on survivalist

[honest moss]

Yeah, i plan on using courier still atm. I will eventually also have the UG bag too but atm i have no materials after crafting for my healer. Even then i didn't get a great one. Also want one for a shotgun build for fun. So gonna need a few

[magic pilot]

Hell yea

[hexed steppe]

yeah, no lefty. i use stage left since different ammo type. its pretty much just cycle to and from to proc sledge as needed.

[magic pilot]

True

[hexed steppe]

i used to also use courier, but had to switch it up. im always on a team when i use cc so i made the switch to opp for another team buff. it doesnt hurt that i also get some of my missing damage back from opp 😅 . all haste rolls as well. 100% hazpro, iirc 100% haste (or very close to that). you can squeeze in a lot of status effects on top if not using/needing hazpro.
probably my most satisfying build... well, after mortar anyways .

like 4 different team amps
Scorpio amp- 20% increased damage towards target from all sources
Perfect Opportunistic amp- 15% increased damage towards target from all sources
Survivalist Tactical Link amp- status affected target takes 10% damage from team mates
Perfect Sledgehammer amp- Debuffed targets take 40% increased damage to armor and armor plates

[next bolt]

Support build idea: Vile, Lavoisier, Pointman, 3 piece Golan. 5 blue 1 yellow, over 1.8m armor, can get to 80% status effects, backpack and chest both grant 50% bonus armor to team (backpack on status effect, chest on deploying shield). Elmo's as primary. Am I cooking or is this hot garbage? This is all theorycraft btw haven't tested it at all

[hexed steppe]

i wouldnt bother with vile not enough damage with all defensive talents. if elmo is the status it wont be affected by status effects. you might consider btsu and hive to overcharge your team here or there.

[onyx sage]

no need for status effects with elmo, most likely your dps is gonna use elmo anyway so them casting shock is gonna make it so your shock is ineffective anyway due to status effect cooldown

[hexed steppe]

😎

[onyx sage]

might as well go with a crit hybrid

[next bolt]

I was also thinking about maybe double badger (maybe the named holster) with scorpio

[hexed steppe]

scorpio would be good for proccing galvanized and add a team amp to the mix

[tacit goblet]

does this build for pvp still work:

[solar sable]

yes, PvP almost doesn't change

[tacit goblet]

but why fox prayer

it gives rifle damage, doesnt apply to SMGs at all

[solar sable]

free DTOC

you can ask @magic pilot himself

[tacit goblet]

this would have been a godroll :(

but i got status effects instead of a crit attribute

[tulip charm]

Is that your best one/only one?

[tacit goblet]

my only fox prayer for now

should I sacrifice one blue core for one Red Core?

[hazy steeple]

Countdown drops them like candy.

[tacit goblet]

Im just hoping im lucky enough for a good roll

[tulip charm]

Just keep that for chd or hsd and farm one in countdown.

[magic pilot]

Hello!

[magic pilot]

Build works great, I would definitely recommend swapping some stuff for next season so that will be getting an update once the season goes live

But as of this patch it's one of the best smg builds

Survivalist for group play, firewall for solo

updated smg

This will be my main smg build for next patch

[hexed steppe]

@opaque notch , nego build . can run like this or using glass. foxes can be traded out for coyote mask if preferred

[opaque notch]

Oooh I see

[hexed steppe]

one of the main things about nego is getting very close to the crit chance cap (60%). transfer relies on crits

[opaque notch]

So should I just keep upgrading my m1a cqb that I have

[hexed steppe]

what is the talent on it

[opaque notch]

I'd have to check

[hexed steppe]

personally i use boomerang or flatline depending on what spec im using

[opaque notch]

I think it has flatline

[hexed steppe]

flatline is good, only 2 drawbacks. flatline locks you to tech spec and you lose 5%chc when you mount the linked laser that pulses your target

[opaque notch]

Can I add you so if I get time to play I can show u what I have

[hexed steppe]

sure

[magic pilot]

Love this build so much

Reminds me of the old focus Meta for some reason

[quasi geyser]

is it going to be better to go with 60% CHC and 112% CHD or 54% CHC and 124% CHD ?

[solar sable]

Hmm imo the second choice is better

[surreal depot]

First

[arctic pebble]

Okay
now I'm interesting in farming this
but is there any builds that can be used in legendary solo that can make use of the status effect gimmick
and like spread it to other enemies or allow me to deal even more damage on em?

Also wondering where to farm this as well

I'm planing on running 2 builds
a short-range dps that's more aggressive
and a medium-long range dps

[mint axle]

The ouroboros talent isn't affect by status effects attributes, the St Elmo is, but I don't think that sacrificing CHD or CHC for status effect is worth it, just for shock to last like 0,5s longer on elites.

[arctic pebble]

Been thinking about build around Bighorn as a fan of Rifles
it can drop from Summit now?

[versed summit]

It drops from Legendary Bosses. so technically yes.

It isn't very good in rifle mode tho

[hazy steeple]

@arctic pebble Next Season, a bunch of rifles are getting made full-auto, so it may be worth building with an eye for then.

[arctic pebble]

Hmm
got no idea how that'll work but I guess I'll stick around
I'm more of a fan of the semi-auto stuf ftho

[quasi geyser]

i am just messing around and remembered about the Perfect Companion chest piece, is double companion still works ?

[versed summit]

yeah but it doesn't extra proc like it did before

[quasi geyser]

i see, thanks

[dull ermine]

Does feisers backpack take bonus damage from health damage?

[hexed steppe]

This is how to tell which is better

Helps if I attach the image

Nvm I'm like 8hrs behind 👴

[versed summit]

it be like that

[quasi geyser]

it will help me in the future thank you

[thorny cedar]

SHD 500 screenshot, doing a kind of pulse-armor regen build around flatline and heartbreaker, what do yall think? Nowhere near complete, since I'm still working on optimizing the pieces. Kind of considering removing ninjabike and getting the 4p with the backpack. Weapon Slot 1 and my skills are mostly just what I'm feeling.

[versed summit]

I’d definitely run the HB Chest.

And tbh I really wouldn’t go for regen with Heartbreaker the survivability comes from the bonus armor, otherwise you’re gonna lose too much damage.

Is it for PvE orPvP?

[thorny cedar]

PvE, usually run challenging solo without issue

[hexed steppe]

Memento can fit as well. It would give damage and regen

Hb mask. Memento or ceska vigilance bag

I would also add a shield over the seeker. How are you planning on procing pulse? Flatline/hb/spotter all require it for damage

[versed summit]

I'd definitely check out the HB guide in the pinned spreadsheet, or look into something like this 4.14 HB AR Bruiser (TechTank)

[onyx sage]

how do i make raw skill power build for recruiter

[versed summit]

Sir

[onyx sage]

you should make this build

[versed summit]

goat please

[hexed steppe]

Skill buckets™️ + mortar ez

[onyx sage]

i used the demolisher launcher against him and he keeps killing me

this boss is too hard

[versed summit]

try /invite dien.aka.kim

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, agreed

[onyx sage]

i think you spelled IC3SO wrong

[hexed steppe]

Let that try hard come carry you

[versed summit]

mb

/invite bandetermined

[onyx sage]

that's your second account?

[versed summit]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ya got me

[onyx sage]

can't deny the goat alligators

[versed summit]

I'll just melee bait them, like the goat @onyx sage

[thorny cedar]

HB 4p grants pulse on headshot

[magic pilot]

What about things that don't have a head?

[thorny cedar]

boolet

it procs through armor too

so heavies and big boys aren't a problem

with polarity switch I can cut through BT minigun bros like swiss cheese with flatline

[magic pilot]

That's not what I'm talking about

Also if you are making a build for any of the good events you can basically use anything

What about mini tanks and warhounds

[onyx sage]

good luck in legendary is what he's saying

[snow ingot]

I think those things do have a head

Not a headshot hit box to get the extra damage off, but I think I’ve pulsed one without the technician mod or ability. Probably just flatline proc so I’m full of shit but I’d have to actually test

[onyx sage]

only buddy, lucy, sparkles and (maybe?) chimera

and flatline proc can pulse so yes

[hexed steppe]

Just to echo, there could be some issues keeping it procced on headless things. hs procs are probably fine for some stuff tho. Tech class linked laser would keep it procced on everything yiu can run into. you would also get a free skilltier to benefit whatever skill/shield

[thorny cedar]

Thats something I didn't think about, I went over to the flamethrower for the shield bonuses, but that could be good

[thorny cedar]

I don't really ever intend to touch legendaries so I'm good haha

Mostly a solo player that matchmakes for activities that might need an agent or two(Heroics, Challenging Strongholds, that kind of thing)

[hexed steppe]

Firewall shield is good. If you're staying procced with headshot pulse, it adds another amp to the mix

[magic pilot]

You can definitely manage HB without tech laser you just have to plan kills to proc pulse on skill proxies

Kinda like HH

[thorny cedar]

HH?

[hazy steeple]

Headhunter, it's a chest talent.

Damage is capped to 800% of your weapon damage. This is raised to 1250% if your headshot damage is greater than 150%."```

[onyx sage]

one of the most underrated talents in the game, that's why they buffed snipers and shotguns to make it more popular, before this it was unplayable ||||

[solid ether]

what do yall think any tips for this build?

[versed summit]

what's it for? 3pc W&H isn't really viable though tbh

[solid ether]

okay i thought of trying to see if i can make a companion and obliterate for dz what do u think i could trade W&H out for?

[shy willow]

Depends on what you're trying to do

[magic pilot]

Check the pinned guide

[unique plover]

what are the meta builds right now?

[hazy steeple]

The 📌 pinned guide they mentioned? Those are all 100% viable in Heroic.

[solid ether]

dz

[hexed steppe]

in the sheet hub (builds) tab, look up strikers , negotiators, sniper setup pretty much all top damage

skills lookup eclipse protocol . all are really easy to make

[solar sable]

and don't forget mortar

[hexed steppe]

ill have you all converted eventually

[shy willow]

Nah but like what kind of build

[solid ether]

a companion and obliterate just a build i thought i would try and see if i can make something around it

[versed summit]

a lot of those recommendations were for PvE, but there is a PvP guide in the spreadsheet I'd recommend checking out.

Companion and Obliterate don't really have any synergy though. Wicked would honestly be a better option IMO

[magic pilot]

A big thing with DZ is sustained health, things like unbreakable, ad rush, or efficient. As well as cordinated group synergy with builds, like cavalier or healer setups

That's why regen headshot is so popular, % regen got huge buffs. Its easy to stay alive and headshot builds are basically always more dmg than a crit build

[tired relic]

I need a build to solo the 4 hunters

I can't kill them fast enough before they depop

Or before i run out of ammo

[solar sable]

Hunters Fury with foam chem and Shield maybe

[solar sable]

(you should use Scorpio)

[tulip charm]

Set the world to normal and run shock trap and foam.

[tired relic]

Shield is useless, they emp constantly

I'll try foam and shock

[solar sable]

That's why I said maybe.
No need to run with it.

[tulip charm]

Shock doesnt get disrupted when deployed

[tired relic]

I know

[tulip charm]

Good luck then

[tired relic]

Issue is still damage

[tulip charm]

How?

It shouldn’t take long in normal difficulty

[tired relic]

They are bullet sponges that refill armor

They don't need to be in cover or free to reshield

They just do it infront of you even while foamed

So the goal would be to spam as much damage to them as possible to kill them before they use armor

[solar sable]

Just kill them on Normal difficulty as he said.

[tired relic]

It's in normal

It's 4 different hunters that spawn at the same time

I killed two of them before but ran out either of time or ammo

So the two others just depop

[tulip charm]

How are you running out of ammo?

Are you running a vector?

[tired relic]

Chameleon

[solar sable]

By any chance are you running a build with blues?
Ah that explains a lot

[tired relic]

Blues?

[rich lotus]

Hey does anyone know a good ninjabike striker build for pvp and pve?

[hazy steeple]

Blue pants on, it reduces your ammo efficiency.

[tulip charm]

Not a good choice considering it needs ramp up to do significant damage

[solar sable]

Don't use NBB on Striker's

[tired relic]

What

[tulip charm]

Armor cores

Anyways what other guns you have?

[solar sable]

NinjaBike is a newbie trap. Striker's isn't as great for PvP
There's a PvP build guide in the Pinned Spreadsheet by the name of "PvP Starters Guide"

[tired relic]

I was running an ak-m

[rich lotus]

@solar sable thanks for the advice

[tulip charm]

Talent?

[tired relic]

Hold on

[hazy steeple]

Chameleon is a vector in itself by the way, it's an AR with terrible range.
worst of every possible world.

[tired relic]

I like the buffs

[tulip charm]

Ngl just show me your build and guns.

[tulip charm]

Unironically cham next season becomes really good…

[hazy steeple]

The buffs are honestly the worst thing about Cham', since they vanish so fast and the upkeep is attrocious.
I use it exclusively for the fashion aspect.
and yes, show us your build!

a single screenshot of the main page, and one of the stats page where your crit is, would be fine.

[hazy steeple]

Did they remake it entirely or?

[tired relic]

Launching the game

[tulip charm]

Base damage buff and less body shots to to proc mid buff

[tired relic]

Aren't they immune to proc?

[hazy steeple]

"proc" is too vague a term, div2 is very math-y.

[tired relic]

Nah i mean effects

[tulip charm]

Status effect?

[onyx sage]

proc isn't any status effect btw

[tulip charm]

They aren’t

[onyx sage]

proc just means activate

[tired relic]

Ok

I though it was same term as in wf

[tulip charm]

Nah

[hazy steeple]

To be fair in WF, that's also quite vague.

[tired relic]

the akm is maniac

[tulip charm]

Man…

[hazy steeple]

Do you have any gasoline on you?

[solar sable]

yuck lol

[honest moss]

Foam and mag dump head. On normal shouldn't be too tough, if you want to specifically make a build try 2 red 4 blue. On heroic or such you will need elite protection for real survivability so dps is best. Also, if you are willing, you can run a determined/nemi sniper build. Id suggest maxing out hotshot stacks and headhunter beforehand. The training dummies and bodies will proc hotshots bonuses, just dont change guns.

[tired relic]

do you guys go in build advice just to say shit like that?

[hazy steeple]

Ceph, this is the warframe equivalent of hitting "auto make build".

[tired relic]

alright then

[solar sable]

Well, we thought you were running some type of blue striker's

[tulip charm]

You basically relying striker stacks to any form of damage and hunters needs to be killed quickly

[honest moss]

Nevermind my good man level 135. Godspeed.

[tulip charm]

Shd doesn’t matter

Its completely doable

[honest moss]

No but it relates to what they might have

[solar sable]

sort of but not entirely

[tulip charm]

Striker backpack, a chest with a damage talent preferably obliterate and ceska piece.

[honest moss]

Honestly, go 3 gila and 1 bel, thats 3% regen at all times then run maybe ceska or whatever for reds. Honestly hunters on normal drop to a foam headshot rush but i get its not easy to fight hunters.

[tulip charm]

Lets not make it complicated

Its just small tweaks and its completely fine.

[honest moss]

Honestly tweaks dont even matter, might just be weapons. St elmos would also just be a gg. Shock and dump. But yeah im with you there.

[solar sable]

Scorpio will be clutch with those 4 Hunters since you can shock them at a certain point

[honest moss]

Also it is worth trying different skills and such, sometimes you find what works and what doesn't for you. You don't need to listen to what people say is the best if it doesn't work for you. Part of the game is playstyle 🙂

[tulip charm]

Shock and foam is a godsend for hunters tho

Maybe decoys to redirect skills

[honest moss]

Or blinderfly if you get through emp for having the ability to move without being shot

Similar idea on banshees but unless its a skill build the range is like 10m

[solar sable]

blinder firefly mentioned!

[tulip charm]

Firefly too jank

[gentle lichen]

What the hell is a consistent status method

[tulip charm]

?????

[honest moss]

Love the thing on eclipse and solo even.

[honest moss]

Is this for status effect rotations or something else?

In theory you can rotate effects and perma stun enemies. Varies on the kind and effects. No idea if thats what you are meaning, otherwise no ideas sorry.

[rich lotus]

Yooo I just got an memento after accidentally deleting it a week ago.this event rocks.btw is a chameleon striker+obliterate and memento a good pve solo legendary build with 1.5 mil armor?

[solar sable]

Without Chamaleon it's OP

[versed summit]

it's more armor than you need, and chameleon really isn't great for legendary, but it can get you through if you play smart.

[hexed steppe]

you could also try shock traps (as already mentioned) and stinger hive. both can be preset before triggering the spawn.
i would also not use the build you posted. with all the blues and lack of chest and bag talents, you are severely hindering your ability to kill them. hunters fury + scorpio will offer a ton of status options that cant be disrupted. disorient on kill from hf, then scorpio will cause them to take 20% amp damage after unloading on them.

im late to the party, so disregard this if you already got it done 🍻

[faint umbra]

Any fire build?

[tired relic]

i just looked for a youtube video

no need for shock traps, just spam memento lady death with shield

[somber glade]

Hello can someone help me by asking a question?

Question: Why do I need only 4 striker gears?

🫤

[snow ingot]

teal gear set bonus stops at 4 pieces for the main effect of the set. if you look at the ddescription of the gear set and bonus at 2 piece, 3 piece, and 4 piece. there are no bonuses for 5 or 6 pieces

so its best to run 4 pieces teal, then 2 gold or 1 gold one exotic most of the time. theres some funky ninjabike messenger bag builds out there but few and far between

[versed summit]

Well there’s a lot of NBB builds it’s just they’re not really good builds

[honest moss]

NB is fun, i use it for weird off meta builds. But it is an easy piece to think you always need.

[versed summit]

I can count on my hand the number of builds where there aren’t better options over it.

[honest moss]

The only actual build i have it on is my sniper build, for off stuff i just like to see what numbers i can get. Made a NB burn yesterday and then swapped out for CD instead. Was like 20k damage of burn from the extra status effects the bag gave. I do think it has some uses for solo builds if you do mixed cores and want to have regen ect. Can be used for nice qol stuff if you just dont care

Personally have a lot of fun with it but the builds are never as good as the real versions

[versed summit]

For solo it’s really just beaten by memento, if you don’t like stacking the trophies you can still fit in utility brands and keep higher damage by taking a good backpack talent.

[versed summit]

It’s just gimmicky

[honest moss]

I 100% agree with this

Well for solo stuff i once used a NB build with a mix of crit, regen and hazpro just to see how much i could fit into it. Used it for a little bit and then swapped. I am more of a wicked fan for PvE stuff.

The main thing is if you use NB you want to aim for as many extras as possible so if you even plan on using a 3 brand bonus or gearset, its typically not worth

[versed summit]

The problem is, even builds that you can maximize the attributes, it’s still not worth it.

[magic pilot]

There's like 3 average NBB builds

That are super niche and not even that good

[tulip charm]

Isnt there only one good/meta nbb and thats which is umbra walker picaros + cap for pvp?

[wise swallow]

its unironically one of the strongest builds for PVp

id argue now, the strongest

its same dmg as everyother DPS build while having pretty decent skills

[magic pilot]

Yea true, I was thinking pve

[tulip charm]

Oh pve wise its wack

[radiant reef]

you do have two different types of pvp though, Id argue conflict is a lot different from darkzone due to the normalisation

[weary nexus]

feeling the itch for Div2 after Helene hit my city. Is Foundry still top set for a Bulwark?

[magic pilot]

Same builds slightly different layout

[magic pilot]

It's okay, I'd rather go HHF with memento and some blue

[weary nexus]

.... hhf?

[magic pilot]

Headhunters fury

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwBgtMbgjGDMVHmU1yBcwBsrYOtAiigExpLoERix7nH1SUKThkMeMibis1cCMcAJzUYgwek7SKMuZRDsISmCTLQSRNJikTucpEA

[weary nexus]

for bulwark?

[onyx sage]

you can use the bulwark shield with it, but it's meant to be a damage dealer build, not a tank build

[radiant reef]

So I was casting my eye over a couple of pieces of gear. The devils due caught my eye. Has anyone used it as a way of all red builds keeping armour up?

[magic pilot]

It's terrible sadly

[hexed steppe]

there are only a few bag/talents that work well for armor/bonus armor. memento exo, ad rush talent, bloodsucker talent. could probably do some regen/pfe stuff depending on the content tho

for solo memento is a really good option

[radiant reef]

Memento is arguably the best solo pve piece in the game. It’s almost too good

[hexed steppe]

its good in groups as well if you have your damage up

its the hardest working single piece in the game

[radiant reef]

problem with groups its hard to get stacks easily especially if you have kill stealing friends lol

[versed summit]

you have to be the kill stealer

[hexed steppe]

yup, beat em at their own game

[radiant reef]

but yeah, its arguably the best, but in that nature, its boring. Hence looking at other ways.

[hexed steppe]

nice thing, once stacked you only need a pickup every 5 minutes

bloodsucker a good option. once stacked you basically double your armor bar... same deal tho, you need the kill

[radiant reef]

I've played around with bloodsucker + intimidate

[tulip charm]

That combo is good

[radiant reef]

Its not bad at all.

I've been enjoying ongoing direction + vile + perfectly wicked.

still trying to determine is it worth going more chc or keeping with Status effects

[shy willow]

Status effects aren't worth investing in specifically for bleed

[radiant reef]

not so much the bleed but the vile mask bonus

[tulip charm]

Imo the only place where vile fits is fire eclipse. Vile doesn't do enough damage outside to be viable in other cc stuff.

But at the end of the day its your build

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[radiant reef]

I've found in PVE its quite handy, softens up targets in heroic nicely, and basically destroys reds and purples. Allowing you to focus down the elites

[shy willow]

Vile doesn't scale with status effects iirc

It's based solely off the damage of your grenade

[onyx sage]

it does scale off status effects as well as "the damage your concussion grenade does"

[radiant reef]

50% concussion grenade + status effects

so in theory, if you have a 1.5m damage grenade if you have 50% status effects, it should do 1.5million damage over 10 seconds. Which should be 75000 damge per tick (2 ticks a second)

[onyx sage]

it's not 1.5mil, it's 1.5mil * 0.5 * 1.5

which is 1.5mil * 0.75

and i put "the damage your concussion grenade does" in quotes because it does inherit the formula for it, meaning it does also scale off explosive damage and other amps that buff grenade damage

[radiant reef]

ahh fair point

does it really though like 2 piece grupo?

[onyx sage]

yes

but as you can probably figure out, it's not worth it

[radiant reef]

That doesnt feel right. So far in testing its done ok

[onyx sage]

dta also affects it too btw, so holding a shotgun or capacitor is a must too

there are many things you have to account for when dealing status effect damage

[hexed steppe]

vile would technically be viable on any highend status build that has glass. can pretty much tick just as hard as eclipse

[onyx sage]

and vile damage too

[radiant reef]

and yeah I knew about the DTA/DTOC bonus to status effects, using an iron lung is good for that.

[onyx sage]

not dttooc

it's why i specifically said shotgun and not lmg

[radiant reef]

I'll have to check that but from the reading I've been doing dtoc does seem to affect it as well. Though DTA is probably better in most regards as NPCs usually bugger off to cover when damaged

[tulip charm]

hmm you can easily test it in shooting range.

just see the damage numbers when chucking a nade

[radiant reef]

yeah, I need to do some more experimenting,

[onyx sage]

dttooc doesn't affect any status effects at all. the easiest way to check without having to make changes to your build is to have a 2nd player join you and tell them to switch to and from the demo spec (which has the 5% dttooc group buff)

your status effect damage will stay the exact same in both cases if all they're changing is specialization, to and from demolisher

[quasi geyser]

i am trying this jammer pulse build in PVE
any tips on how my playstyle should be

[radiant reef]

cover cover cover

honestly I dont think its good enough as primary. Better off using it as a side hustle to 4 pieces ongoing directive + vile + perfectly wicked and iron lung - easier

[quasi geyser]

its just a build i am trying its not my main build i am just looking to try some new stuff

[radiant reef]

play in cover, and have a hive as well

[rich lotus]

AFK in cover and press your skill buttons 👍

and pray that your teammates can kill the enemies

[placid latch]

Is it not 1.5 mil *1.75 ?

[placid latch]

Which would give 2.625 Mil ?

Else it doesn't make sense to give 0.75 reducing the overall damage (going from 1.5 mil to 1.125mil)

[dull ermine]

Is there anything people have used the collector chest piece for

I thought it would have been a good piece but it doesn’t refill specialization grenades and the low capacity requirement kind of makes it a bit unreliable unless you toss grenades every 5 seconds

The only place I’ve found a use for it is DH razorback if you run out of grenades and don’t run demo

[urban latch]

even if you run out of grenades just go to the ammo box. if your at 0 grenades you'll always get 1

[dull ermine]

For real?

Never knew that

[onyx sage]

no because you only deal 50% of your grenade damage, so you can't deal >1

that's what the vile talent says lol

[magic pilot]

Id run mortar on this, it's a pretty standard mortar build

If your goal is max jamming duration there is better builds

[shy willow]

Swap out a couple pieces and yeah it's basically just a mortar build

[magic pilot]

Ngl didn't notice it was 3 china

[hexed steppe]

Yeah already got some unicorns there

[hexed steppe]

I agree with above, this is more mortar than jammer. Ditch vile, 2grupo,1china, 3x empress (or sacrifice+2wynern)

A better jammer build would be with hardwire for spamming. Soon to be buffed pretty significantly as well

[solar sable]

I love wynern more than wyvern tho

[hexed steppe]

Me too. Not fixing

[solar sable]

are skill buckets filled with yellow fluid?

[onyx sage]

wynner

[hexed steppe]

Only in emergencies .
Most ppl buckets never have anything in them

[placid latch]

Thanks for explaining

[radiant reef]

actually you can in theory, as you can go above 100% as its 50% of grenade damage increased by status effect bonus

[latent grove]

So right now what's a good LMG build to work on? I've always loved LMGs but yeah I've been out of the game for a long while so idk what's good

[radiant reef]

umbra, and cheska backpack with either vigi or wicked and contractors gloves and iron lung

[onyx sage]

that's not what i meant

i mean the 50% is the base multiplier

[radiant reef]

aahh sorry mis read that part of the convo

[latent grove]

What's vigi and wicked?

[hexed steppe]

talents. wicked and vigilance. both are damage talents

if you check the pins here, there is a spreadsheet with a metric ton of information on pretty much anything.
also you can quick reference with the build tool

[radiant reef]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwdgtAzGAMYIzxk2LlpQLgBxgEyUX1wVVPWQwFZg8kF85cBOcstjYBOGqE1-0h3D5YfNgIrAaIxOLnoMuAGwtK8OGrhNeTGlrVyMjMDRbHYEJWBAt2uYLwMTB0DPJfOYQA

Thats something similar to what I run

If you pack armour cores on the umbras its quite good defensively as well

[covert meadow]

Hey guys, what would be a build i should target to build to do solo Summit pve? Yall would recommend

[rich cosmos]

What do you want specifically

A lot of stuff can solo summit assuming you mean challenging and heroic difficulty

[covert meadow]

@rich cosmos i have a couple builds, but i jist figured there was something specific people used in it.

I have strikers, fire, skills build, my skills gets me kinda far until I run into the 4 leg dogs then it gets rough

And i was on heroic level but I dropped down to challenging now

[solar sable]

Mortar
Hotshot
Hunters Fury
HHF (HeadHunter's Fury)
Oxi
Nego
HB

[covert meadow]

@solar sable ok ty 👍

[radiant reef]

Heroic is the way to play unless you have a solid legendary build for summit. Summit is much different to legendary missions, being random and that. The only thing I would strongly suggest is having a Protection from elites build when it comes to floor 100 to deal with the hunters. And the scorpio

[solemn coyote]

with the up coming season and the buffs and nerfs what exotic weapons do people recommend to expertise

[hexed steppe]

Probably wait till the season releases. The numbers arent set in stone yet so better to wait and not waste mats

[dull ermine]

I don’t suggest vigilance for LMGs, companion is better in the case of umbra and just run a booster hive / turret or put your revive hive down on the floor

The lmg build I run is 3 pc brazos rolled red with contractors, ceska, grupo

Alternative is 2 pc petrov, ceska, grupo, contractors with 3 rolls of weapon handling (you get 15 from petrov) - 59% weapon handling .. you’ll get 69% stability, accuracy etc

Brazos turns mg5 and rpk into big mag LMGs - longer duration of strained and more use of flatline (rpk doesn’t use mag from gunner spec)

M249 is getting buffed next season so that’s a big mag lmg that will be able to handle flatline I think

3 pc brazos turns iron lung into a balanced gun bc low mag is just ridiculous

As for bp talent I run composure and chest is obliterate /spotter

Glass cannon not recommended because you’re constantly peaking and LMGs have a accuracy charge up

What I’m running as of late as a general everything build but it’s perfect for lmg

Foxes, contractors, ceska, grupo, zwiodika, 2nd petrov

You get some weapon handling and increase your mag size, good for rpk / mg5

[radiant reef]

honestly I think 3 piece lengmo is a better option if running LMGs, the explosive resistance and the 30% buff to LMG damage is actually massive.

the extra mag cap from 3 piece brazos is nice, but generally you aren't doing enough damage to make it worth it. You need the extra buffs

[magic pilot]

I'm a big 3 lengmo fan

[radiant reef]

Its criminally underated in my books

[undone comet]

well, i can imagine 3piece lengmo explo resistence striker build with ninja bag

a 90% explo resistence troll

but the 90% one need sawyer, while ninja bike one only got 80%explo resistence

[hazy steeple]

What's the reasoning behind the Explo resistance?

[undone comet]

legendary difficulty

when there are thousands of explo drone and gernades......

[hazy steeple]

NBB in Leg is an....interesting choice.

[urban latch]

explosive resistance just isnt at all worth it

[undone comet]

but when u need a exploresist sniper build with
a determined SRF, u will appreciate it in legendary diffy

[urban latch]

you never need that.....

[magic pilot]

Full red?

Doesn't it cap at 80% ??

[undone comet]

no....

[urban latch]

yes....

[magic pilot]

I'm pretty sure it caps at 80

[urban latch]

does the explosive resistance keep just alive at a sliver of health pretty often? is that what your using it for?

[magic pilot]

Like basically no health and armor^

[undone comet]

never us it when solo

maybe u need healer rather than armor regen

[urban latch]

So this is a group only build?

[magic pilot]

You don't need a healer or tank or explosive resistant striker

[undone comet]

sure, raucey

[magic pilot]

Do you have YouTube videos of your legendary runs?

I'd actually enjoy watching

[undone comet]

no yet guy

[hazy steeple]

If you do, make sure you PM them to folks who ask, can't post them yourself.

[stiff jasper]

why don't just dodge it

[onyx sage]

too hard apparently

[rich lotus]

Is there a two piece gear that increases magazine size?

[stiff jasper]

Honestly I don't prefer legendary if any skill issues, even legendary not really difficult

[wanton rose]

wow, what ur build?

[stiff jasper]

I don't understand why u asking me build when I talking about skill issues
He (Or she) have no enough skill that prevent explosion so he sacrifice tons of damage to build explosive resistance

[magic pilot]

That got me through all of DUA with that exact setup

You could clear all the legendary with that, but manning zoo boss I'd run PFE

[peak sphinx]

Only time when i use a expl resist pfe build with regen is when i dont feel like putting in effort and are on the last part of legendary tidal... only elites there so i can just waddle around and tickle them to death 🤣 without the chance of dieing

[peak sphinx]

I prefer obliterate chest for the faster stacking (but lower max dmg ofcourse). But yea it works for most content 👍

[magic pilot]

For legendary you definitely want striker chest

Especially solo

Otherwise I use obliterate

Countdown I use striker chest

[onyx sage]

nahhhhh full red balls to the wall

[magic pilot]

What about you meta top secret build??

It's full yellow

[onyx sage]

it's so strong it's forbidden knowledge

[brisk hollow]

So, for a healing build; Future initiative or rigger?

[gloomy spruce]

Future Initiative

[vestal ibex]

FI healer build guide

[brisk hollow]

Thank you

[sharp arch]

I’m trying to make a pvp build with using catharsis and i was just wondering what are good attributes for it if it’s core attribute is defense

[gentle lichen]

Well are you talking about the piece itself or the mod you could slot in? Because you can't reconfigure it like the acosta knees.
Catharsis can work very well with any 5-6 blue unbreakable/ad rush build be it a crit build or headshot

[sharp arch]

Ok

[sudden ravine]

I’m looking for a really good pvp build conflict more but open to DZ build aswell ar or smg

@ me if you have a build I could look at

[magic pilot]

There's one in the pvp guide

[sudden ravine]

Where’s that?

#td2-pvp-discussions this?

@magic pilot

[magic pilot]

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c/Lwcf9s0bVawZJtN8zjC1O0GGNSpeRdpG5Fr1s88w2t1z2qtqQ_AnNvz4sQ&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1729119334578633&usg=AOvVaw3D8Pu-67ccdYh6Mn8OyQj3

@gentle lichen got any conflict AR builds for him?

[sudden ravine]

What’s better for pvp dmg to out of cover or armor?

[hazy steeple]

PSA: if you hover over the links in the spreadsheet, a little double frame icon appears and if you click that, it copies a smaller link.
e.g. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/e276d9da-3885-ebd9-5354-35b77ed1c75c/Lwcf9s0bVawZJtN8zjC1O0GGNSpeRdpG5Fr1s88w2t1z2qtqQ_AnNvz4sQ

[magic pilot]

Sick

I don't have hover on mobile tho

[hazy steeple]

Long press might work on mobile, I'm too PC to check.

(there's also shortened links, but those are arcane and strange)

[tulip charm]

Both are good

[magic pilot]

DTA>dtooc (pvp)

As far as gear goes

[wise swallow]

difference is tiny so use whatever is better rolled

[normal glacier]

need a build for open world activities (mainly public executions fast clears)

[radiant reef]

3 piece umbra one piece picaros with crit hit damage and a ceska piece and ninja bike backpack. Armour on all cores or you can have some as red. Umbra chest is a must

[solar sable]

Do you want fast xp? Because running blues is not gonna help with fast clears as you're gonna lack damage.

Although I'm not saying it's bad*

[radiant reef]

I was hitting 500k damage and if you’re doing heroic it’s good having some armour

But you can run the umbra as red and boost that damage further

You can swap picaros for contractors - I was running capacitor and new reliable for a boost to armour damage as well

[normal glacier]

then what should I do ? also wdym by running blues?

[solar sable]

Blue cores
Still, question is do you want fast xp? If yes then check the last 📌 in #ask-td2-community

[normal glacier]

yep need fast xp

[normal glacier]

#ask-td2-community message this right?

[solar sable]

yup

[half cosmos]

trying something not striker feels fine what do u think?

[normal glacier]

I was going to try this build tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_yuOmHtHY

[solar sable]

I don't trust yt builds because they often tend to not tell the entire truth.

Yeah it's a nice build but you have to look deeper. In all the clips, he has Golden Bullet active, which gives him reload on kill and amplified damage. This means that the build has to be run under certain conditions

And as my pin says, depends on your play style and what you want to use

For example, Hotshot's only "condition" is no helmets or it'll mess up with Determined as you'll need to hit another headshot, which for some people may be a bit tedious, to activate the talent again

[brisk hollow]

Is using a chest piece with obliterate or glass cannon a bad thing for Striker+Coyote? Is the chest piece really important for this set?

[solar sable]

You want to shred? DPS build
You want to turn off your brain while farming? Hotshot or a rifle build is your way to go.

[solar sable]

Oblit is easy to use and requires almost no attention
Glass Cannon is more of what its description says

[brisk hollow]

Makes sense. I am moving away from 6 piece striker and am learning what else I can do with the build. I already have Coyote now.

[solar sable]

Take damage to deal more damage

[brisk hollow]

I basically just want more DPS and I don't mind being close

[solar sable]

Yeah 6pc is a waste as you don't get any buffs up to 4pcs

But, it's great to have all 6 pieces as in some circumstances you need the chest or mask instead

[brisk hollow]

Yeah I have most of them red core fully optimized

[solar sable]

like raids

[solar sable]

You making sure attributes are Crit Hit Damage?

[brisk hollow]

Everything should be CHD and no CHC?

(On gear)

[normal glacier]

I just wanna kill stuff and get xp while keeping my brain off xdd.

I came back to div2 after an year

[solar sable]

As a low SHD it makes it easier so you have high CHD and use the gear mods for CHC imo

Once you have at least 50-60% CHC everything is CHD

[brisk hollow]

I see. I'm 950SHD but haven't played for a long time.

[solar sable]

Up to you my man

[solar sable]

Then roll everything on CHD and try to keep CHC as close to 60% as you can

[brisk hollow]

Thank you. Would Coyote+striker4+ Sokolov (for SMG) and Ouro make sense?

[solar sable]

(Chest should have CHC and CHD with a CHD mod)

[solar sable]

Sokolov is not needed, you can simply just swap Elmo's for Ouro without problems

[brisk hollow]

Not sure what that means 😄

[solar sable]

You don't need soko for ouro to deal high damage as it has 1700+ rpm which makes it the best DPS weapon (close range wise)

You can but I don't know if it'll affect much

[versed summit]

yeah doesn't sound like you have enough CHC for sokolov to make sense anyways

ceska BiS

[brisk hollow]

Oh. I don't have Ouro yet

I was just thinking out loud

[solar sable]

Then grab yourself St Elmo's/F2000 or Famas

[brisk hollow]

I'm running Chameleon currently

[solar sable]

yuck

[brisk hollow]

ahahaha

[solar sable]

haha jk
it's not as great as it looks

[brisk hollow]

I was amazed by what it does currently with a 6 piece striker, that lets you know how much I ever did with builds

googles for Ceska Bis

[solar sable]

fkn hell I should sleep
you have a great time farming your Striker's build

Welcome back to Division Prison
I mean Division 2

[brisk hollow]

Thanks for your information and sleep tight

[versed summit]

it's just the brandset is Best in Slot

[brisk hollow]

Sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees as someone still kinda new to builds lmao (Even at 950SHD)

[normal glacier]

is your build applicable for all seasons ?

[solar sable]

Oh yeah it is

[normal glacier]

alright

I will give it try

[solar sable]

gn!

[versed summit]

you get used to it

[brisk hollow]

I guess so. Now..I just need to find the hardest piece first, ouro 😂

[brisk hollow]

Oh, Is there any reason I should pick a Famas or st Elmo/F2000 over Chameleon? If I can cask you @versed summit ?

[onyx sage]

because

• the chameleon handles like a smg meaning it won't be able to hit anything too far as much as a good AR like elmo, famas or f2000
• the chameleon loses all its stacks and buffs when you swap out, which matters because it takes a good while to build them up

[brisk hollow]

And I guess, the base damage for the other rifles is higher by default?

[onyx sage]

i haven't taken a look, but it's not necessarily true

[brisk hollow]

Eventually, I want to move over to SMG completely, once I get Ouro

[onyx sage]

you don't want to, because some fights encourage you to use an AR

smg's range is very limited

[brisk hollow]

I know, but I prefer SMG's since ( In my experience, I can be wrong, ) they do the most damage without needing alot of stacks? Just gun&run up close?

[onyx sage]

nope, because a shotgun will kill faster and stacks striker up faster too

smgs play in the same range that shotguns do but the upside is they get more chc

[brisk hollow]

I am so not used to swapping guns. I always run my main. It makes complete sense if you put it this way, especially with the swapping part

tldr; I need to learn to use two guns

[onyx sage]

once you play optimally, you'll be making use of everything you have

that includes your 3 equipped guns

[brisk hollow]

So in what situation would Ouro fit then?

[onyx sage]

when you fight from close to midrange, around 25m

[brisk hollow]

Right. So in your perspective, there is not a single gun that solves everything. You'r gonna be swapping at some point for optimal conditions.

[onyx sage]

exactly

there are builds for certain niches and there are guns for certain situations, it's just that some builds or guns are more versatile than others

[brisk hollow]

That makes sense. I come from a Hunters fury ''build'' phase where all I tried was get a high smg damage, and since Ouro came out I figured I wanted to go for that and maybe try striker. Commence the chaos and rabbitholes

Appreciate your input btw!

[onyx sage]

oh if you intend to use hunter's fury, then smg will fit it very well, because the entire build revolves around playing that range

hunter's fury niche is fighting up close and has a high risk high reward playstyle, and it's used in both casual and speedrunning contexts

[brisk hollow]

That sounds like me, but I'd like to make sure I get high DPS

[onyx sage]

then you'd be considering between hunter's fury and striker

[brisk hollow]

yeah 😄 And i'm constantly switching between them

Some people tell me < others tell me >

I'm looking for High DPS, low TTK, Red core, hard hitting, up close.

[onyx sage]

what i want to say is play both

if you want to casually hit shots then a striker smg or hunter's fury smg will do well, but if you're willing to learn headshotting consistently and switch up your build entirely, there is headhunter's fury which lets you one tap enemies in the head up close

that's the build that i was alluding to that performs at the tippity top in speedrunning

[brisk hollow]

I see I see

I feel like going HF 4 piece with Coyote and something to multiply my smg damage + ouro sounds good, but i'm not sure if this is realistic

[placid latch]

Using regulus ?

[onyx sage]

yes

[onyx sage]

you want to use non-HF on backpack and chest, so coyote is not an option

[brisk hollow]

I see. What would I want to use for Max SMG+HF+Ouro?

sorry for all the questions, just trying to get a view

[onyx sage]

read the hunter's fury guide, also linked in the spreadsheet

look at the crit setup

[brisk hollow]

Thanks. I'll have a look. And thank you for your information. I appreciate your help. People like you make Discord a better place. 🌞

[onyx sage]

build it and play around with it in all the content you play in, but you're bound to hit some roadblocks. once you do feel free to ask here again

[brisk hollow]

I will. I'll try and get Ouro first. Literally only went into an incursion for the first time few days ago.

[round zinc]

bro bro but the chameleon buff

[onyx sage]

weirdge

[round zinc]

insane 10% buff bro

meta

[onyx sage]

they should buff determined by 10%

[round zinc]

with ouro nerf,banshee nerf and elmo nerf im pretty sure it has the theoretical highest dps for auto weapons now

[round zinc]

how

[onyx sage]

ask @surreal depot

[brisk hollow]

Amazing guide @onyx sage , thank you very much

[onyx sage]

@urban latch wrote it btw

[brisk hollow]

Huge thanks ^_^

Probably going for the Alternative: 2p Soklov (SMG setup) until I get the Ouro for the (Alternative: 1p Soklov 1p Ceska (Ouroboros setup)

[surreal depot]

Amp final dmg by 10%

[brisk hollow]

Random question for striker; The faster the rpm, the quicker my stacks will stack, correct? When hitting enemies? So a slow rof is not advisable?

[bright raptor]

yes

or you can grab the ACS-12 as the guide suggests to build up stacks, then swap to your low rate of fire main. Repeat as needed

[brisk hollow]

Thanks!

Oh man this swapping opens up a whole new world lol

I wonder when people swap. When stacks are full? or when the icon is half filled?

[vestal ibex]

Once you have a feel for the content and enemy health pool you can just swap after you know you'll one mag, although in most content strikers is overkill and you'll run into chasing stacks. Basically you'll do so much damage your stacks will degrade quicker than you can normally stack them with your main weapon.

[onyx sage]

suffering from success

[brisk hollow]

That makes alot of sense. This shows HF is definately more my thing. Thanks.

I'm trying really hard to build stacks, farming HF right now, with a vector, but by the time it's halfway filled the floor is cleared.

[onyx sage]

you can think of striker and HF working opposite to each other to power you up

in a way, striker requires the enemies to be tankier, and HF requires the enemies to be squishier

[brisk hollow]

Great explanations all around 😄 Learning so much today!

[hexed steppe]

at that point you just split the difference and go with nego 😍

[fresh fox]

when acs mag is empty for most cases

if you have a lot of time to stack just reload and do it again 👍

[tawdry flare]

Sir you are getting a buff I am pretty sure you are hyped for the new chameleon

[brisk hollow]

@urban latch I hope you don't mind me tagging you. In your Crit setup for 4P hunters fury guide, Is there any reason you are not listing any Vector/Dark winter variant? Thank you so much for your awesome work on the guides.

[urban latch]

In the current patch vectors just aren't that good. The damage per mag is just too low and you'll be reloading at bad times too often. That said, with the coming update the buff to killer imo will make the dark winter one of the best guns in the game

[brisk hollow]

Thank you very much, once again, for all your work on the guides!

[dull ermine]

Bruv they nerfed banshee too 👁️

I overlooked this cause they shat all over the mp7 😭

What’s with these rpm nerfs 😭

[wanton rose]

any good build to farm hollywood? I use vile, 4pcs TOTS and picaro with firewall

[solar sable]

mortar

[tawdry flare]

Where is my 5.11 buff

[normal glacier]

Suggest a marksman rifle for determined build

with scope and mods

[rich stag]

New lad here, I'm back playing D2 after a 3 year break from the game, is this still ok to run about with, or do I need to make changes

[brisk hollow]

I'm no build expert, but I at least wanted to say welcome back agent!

[rich stag]

Thank you

[brisk hollow]

There are some great guides, depending on what you are looking for build wise

[rich stag]

Thank you, I'll look into it

[brisk hollow]

Check some in the pins, and i'm trying to find you acouple of others

This is a great place to start @rich stag https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1509999994#gid=1509999994

It links you to Evernote builds done by some great users

[rich stag]

Thank you, I'll have a look at it

[tawdry flare]

You can use M700 carbon/SR-1 this patch know that in the next update they will change with upcoming patch should ask @valid grove to farm in Cd

[normal glacier]

got sr-1 a1

[tawdry flare]

Should work fine for now

[magic pilot]

This guy

Somehow the answer is always mortar🤣

[hexed steppe]

if you like memento, keep it in place. run 4pc striker or negotiators with a ceska obliterate chest.
if you swap out memento, use gearset bag to make your 4th piece, ceska obliterate chest, and run coyote mask or grupo mask.
critical hit chance (chc) rolls/mods till you hit 50-60%, then rest of attributes into critical hit damage (chd)
your current chest talent is great for sniper builds, but not at all good for ar/dps setup

[hexed steppe]

all roads eventually lead to mortar 😍

[magic pilot]

Until you go so far down the mortar rabbit hole that you end up at Elmo obliterate striker

[shy willow]

Reject bullets

Embrace explosives

[magic pilot]

Regulus

[gloomy spruce]

Standard red meta striker w gunner set with an explosive sticky. Use the sticky on a pack of NPC's. The blast from the resonance should create a large and deadly explosion. You will then get ammo for your Minigun. After that, you can kill and restock your minigun constantly. The minigun also sets off shields. Kills with it will continuously restock your ammo. You can easily finish off npc's who are left without shields.

If you don't have the explosive sticky, a grenade or the standard seeker mine works.

[magic pilot]

@gloomy spruce totally off topic but I have to commend you for your headshot rating, you are at 13% right now. Very impressive

[shy willow]

Why settle for a gun that only blows shit up sometimes when you can have a little turret that blows shit up every time and with more range sir

[magic pilot]

Oh please regulus range is as far as I can see

Mine blows stuff up everytime, I only hit headshots ever

[vestal ibex]

Optimal range means nothing if you have enough damage...

[shy willow]

The explosion range😔

Actually do regulus explosions break Hollywood shields

[vestal ibex]

Yur

[gloomy spruce]

Considering that I use mostly AR's that rate is higher than I expected. Is there a bot or something to check this? I sent you a DM.

[solar sable]

SR-1 with DTOC.

I definitely need that white paint

[normal glacier]

thanks

[tulip charm]

better start farming them hunters then

[solar sable]

Midas and the other dumbah got bugged last time I fought them

They will now not spawn

[placid latch]

Is it possible to do it on an alt character ?

[magic pilot]

Accuracy mods kinda crazy

[solar sable]

just for 100% accuracy

[magic pilot]

I'd rather hit 100% stability for no sway

[versed summit]

it's my understanding that accuracy does literally nothing for bolt action MMrs tho?

[vestal ibex]

Pretty much.

Nothing changes the initial aim inaccuracy you have and it would be well worth it if accuracy did reduce that time otherwise snipers are just inherently crazy accurate.

[round zinc]

so all in stability for less sway?

[vestal ibex]

I mean I'm always hitting 100% stability on dedicated MMR builds.

Weapon handlings swap/reload/stability is well worth it.

[onyx sage]

how do i hit 100% determined on my mmr build

[vestal ibex]

The toes

[patent fossil]

I notice when the golden bullet buff is active, with the huge handling boost it gives, snipers scope in noticeably faster. I've always assumed that was a result of stability rather than accuracy, but it might be accuracy.

[vestal ibex]

The inaccuracy I mention is basically when you scope up you have really bad accuracy and it'll get better once you stand still for a second. I'm only aware of 1 sniper that does this quicker and that's the tac 50. There are usually two vertical bars that show up and move around to show your accuracy. When not using a scope it's just the time it takes for the crosshair to come together tightly.

Not sure if GB does anything to modify other aspects of gunplay tho.

[covert rune]

hey folks just wanted to know of a good build for group play

[hexed steppe]

striker, crowd control (foam) eclipse, ongoing directive... really delends on what you want your role in the group to be

[versed summit]

Fire eclipse and FI healer as well tbh

[covert rune]

to be more on the offensive side, would an armor on kill build be feasable ?

[patent fossil]

you'll do noticeably less damage, which means you're less likely to get a kill to proc the AOK. Usually survivability is managed by using cover wisely and choosing your targets with care

[hexed steppe]

personally i would just gunner for aok. then ceska oblit chest and coyote or grupo off piece

should still be able to hit decent numbers with what you have currently since striker is really strong

[versed summit]

Speccing for AOK is honestly kinda meh, but especially in the context of a group. The AOK from gunner is enough

Deathgrips are also a bit of an overcommitment IMO as you're losing too many attributes

[covert rune]

thanks for the advice 🙂 really appreciate it!

[solar sable]

Yeah.
I knew this but stability was already at 100% and I couldn't help myself seeing this 🤏 tiny bit of accuracy left

And it kind of helps when farming CP's when you get in tough situations like when an NPC approaches too close and you just shoot and kill without ADS

[magic pilot]

Palisade, gunner and preservation is 30-40% aok

@covert rune

[hexed steppe]

make it a mop with preservation

[onyx sage]

if only aok procced on skill proxy kills

[magic pilot]

Tru

Not bad to stack tbh

[rich lotus]

Wasn’t this listed as a bug on Trello?? Or something with status effects idk

[onyx sage]

nah... that was preservation proccing on status effect kills. aok is completely different

[rich lotus]

Ohh I see

Preservation tech is op tho

Preservation meta on all status builds please

[onyx sage]

preservation is goated

[hidden dirge]

Want some recommendations on an explosives build, kinda bored running the same stuff and wanna spice it up with the artillery turret and bombadier drone/seeker mines

[solar sable]

mortar

[solar sable]

credits to localmortar
I mean localdeck

[fair dragon]

• kinda bored running the same stuff
• Seeker mines
  Sir they are the same thing

[tawdry flare]

5.11 seeker builds when

[hexed steppe]

my main [mortar build](#td2-build-advice message) was already mentioned above.

you could also run hardwire with artillery turret and spam jammer pulse or cluster seeker. this would allow seeker or jammer to be spammed every 10 seconds while also raining mortar hell on your enemies. i dont have a ss from in game but you can use this build tool overview for reference/adjustments. just choose between capacitor/scorpio and use another weapon of your choice as secondary. seeker or jammer would be in the same skill slot with artillery proccing feedback loop an allow spamming of the other skill.

[flint wave]

damn he took off the pfe mods

[hexed steppe]

Nah, I got 4 agents , only the main has pfe on the build. I got lazy with the others *after farming my unicorns

[hidden dirge]

I'm the 'voluntary' team medic aka I get yelled at if I ever switch off medic lol, but sometimes I get some time where I can just mess around and I've never found a good skill build for endgame stuff that wasn't heal spam

And explosives looked fun. Just wish bombadier drone didn't explode itself with any slight incline

[hidden dirge]

I'll start putting the stuff together for it and try it out, ty for the recommendation

[cunning summit]

yo people, first time posting in here and im back to grinding after taking a pretty long break, currently trying to get god roll striker gear but obv im just trying to get my footing again since its been a while, any recommendations? I do solo heroic content relatively easily but I am dying very quickly. Ninjabike bag is new and has replaced my memento but any ideas from people who are smarter would be dope, also since im new to the discord honestly if theres anything I should know about how things work around here lemme know since id like to start being more active

[solar sable]

1. NinjaBike won't help with Striker's unless you replace it (again) for Memento.
2. Regular Striker's with 3/3 blue cores & reds will be your go-to
   Striker's is meant to be run with all red cores and using cover most of the time you're shooting.

Build:
4pc Striker's
Ceska Chest with Obliterate talent.
Coyote's Mask (Exotic)

Everything should be rolled to Crit Hit DMG (primarily) and Crit Hit Chance.

Another thing to note is
Weapons should have DMG To Target out of Cover (don't listen to those who say Headshot DMG is better than DTOC because you will never always hit heads)

Specialization should be Gunner as it gives 10% Armor on Kill (AoK)
If you want a little more survivability I'd suggest using a Banshee smg with Preservation talent (grants AoK)

[cunning summit]

respect yeah im just trying to experiment, I replaced ninjabike with memento and threw on fox's prayer and just put a strikers mask on and gloves for the 4 piece, both are very melty and I cant decide which to use, granted, my striker gear is not full speced and god rolled yet so im not getting full potential but im on my way

I just feel like im missing out by not having some kind of weapon damage brand set for smgs or ar's

thanks for the advice though truly I have enough knowledge to not get me killed but im not marcostlye with 55 graphs lmao

[onyx sage]

no, you need crit chance, so you use ceska brand

[cunning summit]

to show how long its been I just got a god roll st elmos engine on summit ive been looking for, mythic pull

but yeah for the record if i ever gring for actual gear im always looking for crit chance/damage, slightly biased towards damage but if I can get a god roll on either im happy, I just want max crit striker. The last hour a 4 piece striker with fox's prayer and memento was a cake walk on heroic difficulty so if I can actually find a full max crit striker 4 piece i think ill be sittin easy

[onyx sage]

yeah i know, but you need ceska, drop fox

you need to be close to 60% crit chance since you don't have coyote

[cunning summit]

will do, let the grind continue, thanks for the advice homie fr

any rolls I should be looking for on ceska?

[fresh grove]

Crit chance and crit damage

[fresh grove]

And obliterate as the talent

[solar sable]

Dude, I literally listed everything when I answered...

[fathom fox]

Whats worth more, 2 piece walker harris for the 5 % wd and armor damage, or a ceska that allows me to add 24 percent chd? The total armor damage in the build with the walker harris would be 19 %

[hexed steppe]

Ditch the 2 walker. You can use contractors for more dta and have your crit as well... granted if it's a question of using ceska, dta may not be the best investment anyways. Post a ss of the build

[fathom fox]

Its wreckin me head

Idk if adding walker is overkill

[hexed steppe]

Well, if maining pestilence you're ticks scale with weapon damage and amps. Its gonna do best on a crit build with glass and vigilance . You're trading those possible huge damage sources for a few minor sources.

[urban latch]

It's the ninjabike wreaking your head

[fathom fox]

Its just a placeholder for iron lung

Ninjabike has me lost in the brand set sauce

[hexed steppe]

There is only maybe 1 build where ninja benefits, like pvp healer iirc. You would get more damage out of a normal dps like striker

[fathom fox]

Fair enough may just sideline this build so, cheers for the help

[magic pilot]

PvP healer and umbra PvP

[wise swallow]

Im starting to really like the umbra builds with cap

[shy willow]

Pretty potent build that is

[gentle lichen]

I remember a silly 1.8m armor build with 6 yellows

Damage was there and you were able to capitalise on things like 8 charge foam or mortar lmao

[fair hull]

hye guys , should i reroll my st elmo? im mainly using striker build

[placid latch]

I would probably keep it and drop another one

In order to save exo component

[mint axle]

You could try to farm another that has DTTOC or you could reroll at least three times with those chameleons there

[fair hull]

chameleon and bullet king keep drop for me :/

[onyx sage]

just deconstruct them

[fair hull]

gonna try to farm another elmo. too scared to gamble reconfigure it

[round zinc]

keep 1 chameleon tho

trust me bro the chameleon meta is among us

[prime forge]

this is my build atm as u can see my lvl its not that good atm any1 advise a build if u can send a ss so i can look at it as this is a build i used like a yr ago as just came back to game

[fair hull]

too late... the chameleon purge just been done

[round zinc]

😭

bro missing out

[round zinc]

huh that seems shockingly solid,whats the crit rate?
also why does the screenshot look like that

[prime forge]

ikd why ss looks like that tbh

just nvidia being wierd

[round zinc]

seems weird
how many crit chance attributes do you have rn?

lower them for some more crit damage
and get a different backpack

[prime forge]

6

[round zinc]

also you can run some more red cores for more damage

[round zinc]

what about the slotted mods?

[prime forge]

what bag u reccomend

i was using the strikers bag before

[round zinc]

in your case right here i think a grupo bag will work

[prime forge]

how do i get that?

[fair hull]

Worth the gamble

[prime forge]

so do u think this build is ok or need some tweeks

[dull ermine]

Depends on how many exotic components you got and if you want them for expertise

[round zinc]

targeted loot

[prime forge]

cool ty bro

[round zinc]

yea it seems fine,can change some cores to red and more crit damage but other than that its endgame ready

[prime forge]

dam ok

didnt relise it was that good

[prime forge]

so if i do countdown just target backpack

[onyx sage]

you target the brand

you only target the gear slot if you want exotics

[prime forge]

ty

[dreamy valve]

What builds is everyone planning on trying out for the next season

[onyx sage]

aces m1a

[magic pilot]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/KwNgtAnGxgTGBGAzGADGj6uZ6gXMDNgoisthXLpniAOyTRXJxSXu56wpRHUcC8AFnBD0UeAP6cEQxnymK0XJFDkQAHIkLaGCUNq3s8Swaf7CT0ildNA

🔥🔥

I'm cooking with this one

[tulip charm]

....

[dreamy valve]

Looks to be a Stonks build to me

[onyx sage]

investor build

[magic pilot]

That's what I'm naming it for YouTube

I'm gonna charge for the full build though

[onyx sage]

smh

[teal nova]

Anyone pro builder willing to offer some support? I think i ahve decent gear, but need to understand how thigns work in D2

[magic pilot]

Check the pinned spreadsheet, that has the base templates for most builds worth using

[teal nova]

yeah. Thats the part i need help with. Im a dunce.

Whats good, whats bad. I cant figure Dv2 out

[magic pilot]

Striker, Nego, hunter's fury, hotshot, eclipse fire and CC, FI healer. Are the main ones I'd recommend

Also OD, going to be super good next patch

@teal nova

[teal nova]

Heres what im starting with:

[urban latch]

This is exactly why people say ninjabike is a trap

[urban latch]

Check out the pinned spreadsheet and read through some of the build guides.

[slate harbor]

looking for build for solo darkzone，I expect the build has solid pve ability and also good pvp,

[magic pilot]

Pinned sheet has a pvp guide

[solar sable]

no it doesn't

[onyx sage]

you can't have both. pvp builds are separate because pvp has different meta

[slate harbor]

Ok

Is mantis sniper rifle good? Is there any good build for this sniper rifle

[tulip charm]

Its alright but its heavily outclassed by Nemesis and Any good sniper that can run determined.

And sniper builds is basically 4x Hotshot, Chainkiller, and Airaldi vigilance backpack (easiest variant to build)

[slate harbor]

So it’s like something to use before I got nemesis?

[tulip charm]

Imo not really since you can pick up a gold sniper and run determined and be better off.

But its a decent gun on its own.

[wise swallow]

what rotor said, 4 blue striker can be decent enough in PVE

[sullen sun]

Anybody got a good HB build for season 2?

I know it’s getting buffed

[tulip charm]

Its the same 4 piece w/ chest ceska bag and coyotes

[sullen sun]

Flatline?

Oh nvm

[clear haven]

Hs bighorn

[sharp gust]

In the standard DPS build once you've got 52 CHC and all CHD equipped, do you go for weapon handling or blues for the rest available attributes? I'm mostly Elmo's so weapon handling is fine by default too

[magic pilot]

Tbh I wouldn't use Elmo on a high end build

It really shines on gearsets where crit is low

Famas with strained or fast hands

[hexed steppe]

if youre at a point in highend where everything has chd and your crit chance is right, you would generally add contractor's and/or fox's for the dta/dttooc instead of handling/regen/resist rolls

also, only 52% chc if running coyotes, if no coyotes hit the 60% cap

[magic pilot]

I'd just use OD next patch instead of HE

[rich lotus]

Is it worth upgrading the expertise of the Ouroboros since the nerfs coming its way?

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Its upto you

[wise swallow]

yes

itll still be decent

[slate harbor]

will chameleon be good in next update? Is there a good build for chameleon?

[radiant reef]

4 piece striker + memento + oblit chest

and they're improving it, but its still not super meta

[sharp gust]

Alright, this is what I'm left with. I'm just trying to figure out what'd be smart for the 2 remaining attribute slots, is that just totally up to me? Just not sure which attribute is truly worth putting in. Unless I made a mistake in there.

[magic pilot]

Best thing to do is run a different gun

[sharp gust]

I'm looking at the numbers and the Famas you recommended has Damage per magazine of 3.7m while Elmo's is 9.8m so I'm not convinced about that, am I missing something?

[magic pilot]

You are comparing a single stat, and Elmo has 20 more rounds

The burst dps on a famas will be significantly higher

And it will still be higher in sustain if running fast hands

[versed summit]

you're probably not running a big mag on the FAMAS either

[magic pilot]

Going off only mag dmg bullet king is the only gun we should use

[versed summit]

while @magic pilot is right, if you're set on running elmo, you can take weapon handling, but it's just worse than running a HE AR. taking a talent like STrained or Fast hands will give you overall better performance. Mag damage is definitely Elmo's strongest stat, but generally it's not that worthwhile.

[versed summit]

yeah but the reload speed ruins it

[sharp gust]

Thanks, that clarifies it a little, this probably would make sense then?

Or I guess swap Famas to CHC and mods to CHD

[versed summit]

again, definitely take the +20 rd mag, not a CHD mag, but yeah that makes more sense.

[sharp gust]

Ah, alright

[versed summit]

technically F2000 fits in here a little better, but it's mostly preference between the two. I run FAMAS but i take DCH+regulus which utilizes the extra CHC from FAMAS better

because optimally you want all CHC mods on your weapon

[sharp gust]

Thanks! I'll give them both a try

[placid latch]

You also need to take into account the spreading of the bullet

Don't assume you will put all the bullet on the target

For exemple, St Elmo is really stable allowing you to target the head more easily

[versed summit]

if handling is bothering you take something like Eagles Grasp. Elmo is able to be competitive in places that need the extra CHC, but for HE builds like this, it's not as competetive.

[placid latch]

I was just saying that sometime the number add up nicely but when on the field it's not as much as effective as though. The Cameleon is the best display of it.

[azure ice]

Anyone have a decent Striker build advice for me please

[vestal ibex]

Strikers build guide many other build guides can be found in the pinned spreadsheet.

[azure ice]

Where is the Pinned spreadsheet

[hazy steeple]

#td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet 2.

[magic pilot]

Next patch either or is good

They are balanced

1:2

[versed summit]

next patch is a whole different ballgame tbh, but 100%

[magic pilot]

True lol

High end is dethroned

[versed summit]

tbh, I'm not sold on that... HE still has more flexibility and less caveats than OD, I think there's a lot of situations where OD is going to get the advantage, and HE is also competing with a lot of other gearsets, but it still just works IMO. Ol' Reliable

[magic pilot]

Idk, once you get the bleed rounds you almost never lose it. Its nearly 100% active, especially with carnage getting a buff

Almost 3 million more dps as well, it'll probably still average more including uptime

[versed summit]

you can't bleed everything though, and it's a bit of overkill to have multiple OD players right?

[magic pilot]

That is true not everything bleeds

I think the special ammo still applies the dmg bonus though

Will need to test

[versed summit]

hmmmmm it may tbh

[tulip charm]

It does

[magic pilot]

Sick

Will have to compare in practice but I have high hopes for OD

I honestly think it gets better than high end the more OD players you have

[slate harbor]

will Obliterate Setup striker build still op in next update?

[versed summit]

it's still very good, and if you don't care, you probably won't notice a difference tbh

[slate harbor]

ok thanks

[mossy vapor]

Advice please. I had a couple of years break from the game and so my raid character is now not up to snuff.
For PvE is the King Breaker the one to go for?

[versed summit]

eh not really.

it depends, F2000 or FAMAS are the best right now, ACR and G36 are the best if you are taking flatline though

[blissful sphinx]

im trying to get back into the game and just wondering about my pve build, im currently running 4 piece striker 1 piece ceska and coyotes mask. Is there something else i should try and go for now or is this still good?

[onyx sage]

it's still as good as ever

[blissful sphinx]

doesnt feel it in heroic

[onyx sage]

you have global event on or something?

[hexed steppe]

What are you crit chance/damage values? If striker isnt feeling strong there are probably issues with attributes not being crit focused or something.

[lone lion]

I have 48 chance and 97 dmg

[lone lion]

what should it be?

[magic pilot]

Should be 52/173

[hexed steppe]

Depends on the build. Post what you are using and maybe a ss.

I think elmo/ceska/coyote striker is 52/173.

With highend ar being around 47/153 if I'm not mistaken

[hexed steppe]

None of this means much without knowing the build

[lone lion]

my bad! sorry am very new to the builds stuff @hexed steppe

[onyx sage]

replace grupo with ceska to maximize your crit

[lone lion]

ok will go find one now

ty! are guns ok?

[tulip charm]

He already has ceska

[hexed steppe]

Ceska chest already 👆

[tulip charm]

What shd are you? And the ar is fine (hopefully it has dttoc)

[lone lion]

94, whats ddtoc?

[onyx sage]

i'm old

[onyx sage]

damage to target out of cover

it's the best 3rd attribute for guns outside of lmgs

[hexed steppe]

Basically you'll want chc (crit chance ) close to 60% cap with current config. If you use coyote 50% chc range would be sufficient.
Once you've got chc correct you dump everything else to chd (crit damage)

[lone lion]

I see, is my gear sets ok while i dont have cayotes yet? i guess just grinding for good crit now

[hexed steppe]

Yeah the brands and chest talent are solid. 4pc striker with bag is generally best for normal stuff. Striker chest comes into play when really tanky NPCs are the norm, but basically it's not needed for most content

[lone lion]

do i want top switch my grupo holster ?

[hexed steppe]

Only if adding coyote mask, otherwise its good

[lone lion]

thasnk you!! so focusing on rerolling striker gear for chc?

[hexed steppe]

Yeah. You'll want to make sure chc in weapon first, then also on your highend secondary rolls. after that add what's needed to either mods or rolls on striker (whichever you can get the best values from)

[magic pilot]

15% chc from the gun
10% from watch
10% from ceska
12% from 2 gear rolls

So you need 1 extra piece to be chc roll or mod

[novel cosmos]

@fair dragon

[fair dragon]

should be good

[magic pilot]

What the

[novel cosmos]

Sweet, I'll run it on challenging and see if it works 😂

[fair dragon]

nah do it on Heroic, afaik some of the drones will be purple tier on lower difficulties

[novel cosmos]

Oh ok, I'm not used to Heroic but I'll give it a shot then 🤣

[hidden dirge]

Whoa, why is your gear sets a nice blue instead of the weird teal

[novel cosmos]

Settings > Accessibility > Color Blind Mode > Deuteranopia

Helps to see the circles when mortars/bombs/nades fall on you with a big white circle

[hidden dirge]

Actually amazing ty

[novel cosmos]

You're welcome

[rich lotus]

Dps with chameleon, im open to any suggestions.
gear exotics:
Backpack: All
Chest: Tardigrade
Gloves: All
Holster: Imperial Dynasty & Waveform
Masks: All

[hazy steeple]

Chameleon is a close quarters (referred to as CQB) setup in div2, so any build you use it with needs to be played within it's optimal range of 20 metres.

[devout iris]

Does anyone know a good build for solo legendary here? Was thinking of doing a legendary summit or legendary stronghold

[silk nest]

Headhunter, hunter's fury, 2x pummel m870s.

[devout iris]

Does the HF needs to have armor core on it?

[magic pilot]

No

[rich stag]

Pulled this from the Invaded DZ, this any good, any build advice

[magic pilot]

Sadly it sucks tbh

Really hoping it gets a buff

It seems fun and I really want a good exotic rifle (not diamond back)

[tulip charm]

Devil and Heel 😢

[placid latch]

This weapon was designed to go with Hot Shot set but they kind of screwed up with the scope (and the talent take forever to proc + 30 CD to proc it again unless you do headshot) and the weapon doesn't deal much damage

[cyan drift]

Yaahl at clan vendor, AGAIN 🤣

Time to buy another 400

[tulip charm]

Whoever is the intern managing the vendor please keep it.

[cyan drift]

The clan vendor watching me buy the same mask 387 times, and deconstructing them all in front of him

[tawdry flare]

Yes and give him araise for doing God's work

[cyan drift]

-and a Hollow Man at DZ East. This is a different timeline, surely.

[mint axle]

Looks like the clan vendor can retire already with the money he's gonna get.

[hazy steeple]

I get having a full stock of it just for the fun of it, but what builds are/will require Yaahl nowadays?

Even HazPro setups don't really use it anymore, last I checked.

[fresh grove]

Anna being sassy as she always is

[cyan drift]

I never play PvP, so I'm just stocking up, to a point of never needing to stock up ever again

[mint axle]

I'm doing the same with SC on the event vendor

[cyan drift]

I have a cavalier healer which needed an empathetic resolve yaahl chest

otherwise I can't really think of a build off the top of my head

[mint axle]

Group Immunity I assume.

[fresh grove]

I still need a yaahl headshot hazpro chest with headhunter

[hazy steeple]

Last time I stocked up was the one time it was at the BoO vendor, but that was so long ago I should probably take another check of the stock.

[cyan drift]

more or less, works wonders in countdown

also during that one part of iron horse where everyone has to haul ass after the train