#hcs-chat

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somber swift
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What type of phone?

noble field
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Just to see who is playing this weekend? Never thought you needed to be logged in for that.

quiet prairie
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It will be public when it begin. But yeah faceit have loads of problem. But Starg GG is worst (for public information, its better for small organisation and player)

hearty wave
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A redbull mini fridge at a hcs event would be a nice touch

somber swift
noble field
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Man I’m out of the loop. Ok.

somber swift
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I think we've had this conversation before, lol

noble field
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lol maybe but with that said, app still is just freezing for me and the website still doesn’t have a keyboard. 😂

somber swift
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What phone do you have?

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Do this and you might have better luck

quiet prairie
somber swift
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He means this ^

noble field
quiet prairie
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🤣

somber swift
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Just make sure you log in

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I wonder who Chang is

hearty wave
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Wonder if Walshy is still sponsored or partnered with redbull since the 20th anniversary of halo 2 managed to get hooked up with 2 redbull mini fridges

delicate glacier
hot rivet
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Anyone need 1 for today’s off season?

supple kettleBOT
# hot rivet Anyone need 1 for today’s off season?

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

lean geyser
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Anyone else get booted off the offseason roster? We were all checked in and then it just wiped our team.

pliant furnace
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yeah i did

somber swift
lean geyser
somber swift
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Make your feedback known on Twitter.
Consider tagging the esports folks from Halo Studios so they can learn how pervasive the issue was.

lean geyser
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I don’t have x unfortunately. I only use discord, twitch, TikTok, and instagram

lean geyser
past pumice
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Looking for team/duo to play w
24yo lots of comp knowledge, long time viewer. Great comms.
Good pacing for Anchor or fast slaying

supple kettleBOT
# past pumice Looking for team/duo to play w 24yo lots of comp knowledge, long time viewer. Gr...

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

somber swift
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It's a big post, click into it.

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PSA for Competitive Halo Players

We hear your frustrations, and I want to clarify how HCS regular and off-season tournaments are structured to avoid future confusion:

  • FACEIT staff sets up and manages the backend (tournament pages, structure, etc.).
  • Tournament admins, including myself as the Regional Game Lead Admin, take over operations only after the tournament link is sent to us right before the tournament goes live. Unlike community tournaments I’ve worked on (ForgeHub, Complexity, eUnited), I don’t create or set up HCS tournaments.

For context on recent issues:

  • There were issues in previous 4v4 with teams missing players, and partial teams reserving spots, having an increase of AFKs and not allowing other teams to sign-up
  • Off-season 4v4 tournaments are one-day events and open to all regions which causes limitations of operations
  • Check-in ran from 10:45AM ET to 11:15AM ET Teams/players who don’t check in during this window are automatically removed to allow others to join last minute.
  • The platform auto-removes teams that don't check in. Unfortunately, the platform does experience technical issues and bugs. The teams do their best to assess solutions once it is brought forward.
  • Rosters and teams are locked 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
  • Admins like myself have limited backend access (we can’t add/edit teams, resolve platform issues, or modify the bracket).

Please ensure to check the tournament page an hour before to see that your team is confirmed and checked-in for all events. If you have an issue, we suggest immediately tagging a FACEIT Admin on the FACEIT Discord for support.

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We will work with the other ops teams involved to discuss this situation and assure this does not happen again. Which means check-in may be removed if teams were experiencing unwarranted kicks / not seeing the check-in button. We will make sure to find a better solution moving forward and will write on the overview page on future tournaments for any additional details I can provide to indicate any important notes and procedures.

Apologies for the inconvenience for today as we understand the frustration that this caused.

astral linden
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monstcr got banned by the looks of it

somber swift
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Crazy.
Banned in Matchmaking

cold kayak
# astral linden

Can’t wait for him to win “Comeback Player of the Year” in 2125

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Odds at +10000

tiny sparrow
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not sure why he would need to cheat

novel siren
copper thunder
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I was watching the aPG/Kuhlect streams yesterday and apparently his 2 accounts got banned, one in april and his main on dec 19th. After that apparently he started to play on one of his friends accounts and it got banned again a few days ago

copper thunder
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The friend's gamertag is "r1tual" and if you look at the games history on leafapp they played ranked together in 2022 for like a day and then that account stayed inactive until a few days ago basically. aPG was in the same lobby and immediately realized it was a cheater and he replied in chat "you know me Brad" or something like that and aPG also received screenshots of dms that proves r1tual was in fact monster. It was a wild stream 🤣

copper thunder
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With that said, i genuinely hope all is well with him

noble field
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Bound posted a single clip and called him out for cheating on X if you wanted to see more allegations.

copper thunder
# next totem why

i feel bad for him as a person, no matter if he's actually cheating or not it's just a...bad situation

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like realistically his career or potential career might be over, half of the community already decided if he's guilty or not anyway, i hope he's fine

next totem
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who cares if his career is over?

copper thunder
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i was talking from his perspective when i mentioned his career, i hope he's fine psycologically, emotionally, whatever you want to call it. That's my thought

next totem
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this is the 2nd time he has been banned from a game for cheating, I am sure he will be fine

quiet prairie
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Was he still in Ascending Baseline ?

somber swift
quiet prairie
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Yeah but he played alright on LAN so its really strange

somber swift
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The difference in his performance on LAN to online is pretty large

quiet prairie
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Ok

hearty wave
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The whole cheating situation makes me wish that competitive halo wasn't moved to pc especially online tourney's aswell

runic lodge
hearty wave
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It's way more rampant on pc

runic lodge
hearty wave
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True

somber swift
somber swift
# astral linden monstcr got banned by the looks of it

I am writing this statement because I am sick of the allegations made against me. I know there have been clips and speech raised that looks questionable and I understand that it paints a negative picture, but all I know is that I AM NOT AND HAVE NOT EVER CHEATED in Halo Infinite.

long stirrup
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Nah he cheated 100%

somber swift
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TLDW?

copper thunder
# somber swift TLDW?

that's from aPG stream, nothing is confirmed, it's basically Bound accusing him of cheating and Monster not doing a great job trying to reply

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honestly from all the clips i've seen and even entire games from his pov, nothing suggests he's blatantly cheating. There's only one clip where he's playing on his friend account and he's staring at a wall and then hitting like 3 no scopes in row. But even that it's not blatant, it's not like he's tracking people through walls or there's an obvious aimbot. Also watching clips or even games taken from Infinite theatre is a bit sketchy because you can't hear comms, you can't see if someone is checking scoreboard, for example in that clip i mentioned it's pit flag i think, he's in sword with sniper standing still, looking at a wall and peeking only after someone has spawned tower. It's sus for sure but maybe he was looking at the scoreboard so he knew someone just spawn tower.

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What's sus to me is more like the fact that he's not really doing much to defend himself and clear his name imo. Even in that tweet he wrote for example he doesn't mentions playing on his friend account or acknowledge the dms aPG showed on stream for everyone to see, so i feel there's a lack of transparency for sure.

somber swift
empty hull
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According to the concensus in that thread, yes they are

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Glad I got all the HCS skins ahead of time, they have some clean ones

somber swift
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Seems like they are done

hearty wave
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F

hearty wave
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Hope the anti cheat improves

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For online tourney's it should be on console instead of pc and the players should use a controller cam

candid badger
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I feel like it's ok to have pc used for online tourneys because of mnk users. Just need to figure a different way to deal with cheaters.
Which requires a lot of resources.

somber swift
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I wouldn't say "just as easy"
But we also shouldn't go into detail on it here

hearty wave
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Good point

candid badger
somber swift
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Fair, didn't need to but all good

candid badger
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Wouldn't want more of 'em lol

lilac summit
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Bro is a lil late to the discussion

noble field
copper thunder
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Yesterday aPG announced that he will not be competing next season. He said he's not retiring but his mom has cancer and he wants to stay close to her and his family as she's going through chemo. He's probably gonna coach the team of Trippy, Penguin, Falcated and Suppressed

somber swift
somber swift
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Kinda, but if you look at the roster and think about playstyle, I can see it.

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Also, it's likely lunch is stepping out to focus on IRL

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Hopefully we get the SSG announcement next

tiny sparrow
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formal wearing one of those early 1900's hats, lol.

candid badger
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Tusk is lowkey really good at play calling. Super smart. Idk why he wasn't on better rosters

placid igloo
candid badger
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Forgot about that and gbx

golden canopy
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So is Tusk officially retired now that he's a coach?

somber swift
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You never know

copper thunder
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Can't wait for SSG to announce the real god squad HCSeyes

hearty wave
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The instinct type

fluid whale
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Looking forward to see what the new Optic team can do.

copper thunder
somber swift
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Guessing trippy team might get Faze

noble field
golden canopy
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Any news on where Royal 2 might end up?

somber swift
golden canopy
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Oh shoot...

somber swift
noble field
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Complexity announced theirs too.

fluid whale
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Interesting Trippy, Pznguin, Falcated and Suppressed definitely would need to see how well this team will be.

If the team for SSG is Lucid, Eco, Stellur and Snakebite looks really good as well.

Definitely most interested in seeing how the new Optic and SSG team play.

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So was this a HCS or all the orgs decision to split up all of the teams from last year line up, to keep things somewhat fresh? In the past there were only like a few team changes here and there not a fully brand new line up / team.

Like I enjoy seeing high level gameplay regardless of the org but it was getting a bit samey / stale seeing the same orgs / players nearly all the time.

delicate glacier
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I’m interested to see what Bubu is gonna do this season. He played the first off season tourney with Manny, Monster, and Kulect. Made it to Grand finals. Haven’t seen the dude since. That team obviously won’t work anymore with the whole Monster ban hammer debacle.

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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Lolol

hearty wave
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Wonder who will coach complexity

somber swift
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Ashes might

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Still in discussions

golden canopy
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What happened to Cherished lol

candid badger
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It's ashes I thought. He even posted about it

delicate glacier
somber swift
real stirrup
somber swift
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@hearty wave ?

hearty wave
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Just realised there's one ashes not multiple sorry

copper thunder
# real stirrup Not having Lqgend anymore is certainly something, but Lucid coming in in his spo...

yeah obviously Optic is a really really good team, Bound and Legend together are insane in this meta for the way they move on the map and how good they're, especially Legend, at staying alive in seemingly impossible situations. But with that said i think people are underestimanting SSG and also Shopify. SSG is getting Lucid, the season 1 mvp, they still have Stellur, the season 2 mvp, Eco that had an amazing season last year with the current meta and they're adding Snakebite a 2022 and 3 time world champion. If you also count Elamite they have more accolades than any other roster in Infinite. They're the real god squad imo, or just as much as Optic is.

somber swift
copper thunder
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also Shopify is low key at the same level imo, Last Shot and Cykul may lack experience but in terms of skill they're up there, their damage output is wild, i feel like everytime i watch Last Shot either in mm or tourney he's dealing 2k more damage that anybody else on his team

somber swift
copper thunder
hearty wave
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Snipedown staying on main screen hasn't been replicated since Columbus 09

delicate glacier
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Ryanoob, Gilkey, Yakzn, and Kingnick are competing this week. Haven’t seen those guys in awhile.

somber swift
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temp roster

noble field
next totem
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people seem to just team with who they know rather than who the best free agents are

noble field
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These Opens aren’t too important.

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With that said I’m sad to see Noob is with Gilkey, KingNick, Yakzn.

somber swift
quiet prairie
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The naming comes after the launch of the tournament ?

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Faceit really removed again a fonctionnality to look easily to player nationality...

candid badger
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Anyone have HCS rules for controllers?

noble field
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Shopify does look very good. Cykul and LastShot are beasts.

somber swift
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Who won yesterday?

quiet prairie
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Rebellion

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3-1 against Falcated's team

copper thunder
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I know many may think it's premature to say but I'm not afraid of exposing myself, I think last shot is already one of the best in the game and I'm sure he'll prove it when the season starts

noble field
copper thunder
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I know my english is not the best 😅

noble field
somber swift
frozen bobcat
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‪Here before the Midwest gets nothing again

noble field
frozen bobcat
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KC had a major early in Infinite’s lifecycle and I’m not willing to travel outside of Chicago for events due to personal life stuff

somber swift
noble field
frozen bobcat
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Then let’s not do Dallas majors for at least 2 seasons so everyone’s happy

hearty wave
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We hadn't had a halo event in Columbus since 2012

noble field
# frozen bobcat Then let’s not do Dallas majors for at least 2 seasons so everyone’s happy

That’s my point. Partnered teams seem to be co hosting and likely taking on the of the financial responsibilities of the Major and/or its planning. Optic has done it the past two years in Dallas. Same with SSG in SLC. Faze and Quadrant last year in Atlanta and London. That’s why it’s likely back to Dallas (Complexity is also there) and why I don’t see a Midwest or CA event. It’s also why, if Shopify becomes a partner, we might see Toronto again.

noble field
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Someone sent this to me. Not sure how accurate but it looks about right.

Players without a confirmed team for 2025 yet, sorted by average 2024 placing:
6.50 - Druk
7.25 - RyaNoob
7.83 - Rayne
8.70 - Lethul
8.70 - bubu dubu
9.30 - Sab
9.30 - Suspector
9.30 - Sceptify
9.70 - Gilkey
10.30 - Barcode
10.50 - KingJay
10.83 - Kuhlect
11.00 - King Nick
11.83 - Leuor
12.10 - Haines
12.50 - Diagram
12.50 - Manny
12.50 - Rammy
13.50 - yakzn
14.50 - Mortally
14.50 - Avenue
14.50 - Monster (lol)
14.50 - Squallaye
14.50 - HotShotGhost
N/A - Gunplexion
N/A - Naded
N/A - Cratos

cold kayak
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N/A - FootedPanda

somber swift
delicate glacier
noble field
next totem
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listing monster 😂

noble field
somber swift
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he's been on Ascending Baseline rosters in the past

somber swift
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correct

tame sandal
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Figures cri

candid badger
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Did formal play at Anaheim for EU right?

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And Raleigh for sen?

noble field
candid badger
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That's what it was. I thought Formal filled in for 2 rosters before joining optic. I remebwr when he filled for r2 he beat optic for t6 I believe

somber swift
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Charlie and Ludwig – moguls, making moves, moist – tell us the tale of the greatest combining of forces within the esports world. An announcement that would shake the very molten core of the earth, the boys come concocting a brilliant path forward with Shopify Rebellion.

Shopify Rebellion just got wetter. Better. Moist Esports joins Shopify Reb...

▶ Play video
candid badger
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Hell yeah! They gotta win a major now

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Would do so much for Halo!

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Did moist have a halo team ever?

somber swift
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I don't think so

tame sandal
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Moist

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Name/word made relevant since that Forge announcement from Ske7ch

somber swift
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interesting

candid badger
candid badger
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Thanks!

copper thunder
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Behold the Moist Rebellion!

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i hope they are one of the partnered teams, i'll buy their skin, unless it's mega ugly lol. But next season i'm rooting for them, really want to see Cykul and Last Shot win an event

maiden cosmos
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I honestly have Shopify Rebellion as the #1 team this year, lol

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All the hype is with Optic this year but I don't think their team composition is as good as others

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SSG, for example, has a better composition imo

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With high slaying power and high IQ

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Optic seem like peak level run and gun type players, fast and aggressive, but I think they lack in other areas

copper thunder
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yeah everyone is talking about Optic but there are at least 3 other teams that are really really good. Even the team of Trippy, Penguin, Suppressed and Falcated is low key very good

maiden cosmos
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It'll be really interesting to see how it pans out. My theory is that Optic has 3/4 of its players being all extremelyyyy similar in play-style and, because of this, will have a hard time with a handful of other rosters due to the lack of variety essentially.

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Ren, Bound, and Leggend are all like "ok, go go go! Charge!" constantly, lmao. They all just want to play as fast as possible

copper thunder
# maiden cosmos Yeah! They're Faze, right?

we don't know yet, but Kaysan replied under Trippy's twitter post and he seemed interested so it might happen, i think it's the most logical and best option for both Faze and the players

maiden cosmos
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Maybe a bit better than Complexity? Idk, lol

copper thunder
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I'm curious to see their team because Penguin is the only player in Infinite that never finished a lan event outside of top 3, Trippy i think didn't have a great season last year but he's a world champion, he won multiple events, he can be the igl now, i think he's going to be very motivated and i think he'll bounce back this year. Falcated is low key very good, i always thought he was but often he was not in the best position to prove it, this team is a great opportunity for him. Suppressed with Cykul and Last Shot one of the best up and coming young players.

somber swift
copper thunder
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right, i completely forgot about C9 lol

somber swift
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They haven't said a peep yet, and their players too

maiden cosmos
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Or at least upsetting what we all are thinking will be the top 3 teams

somber swift
hearty wave
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Let's go!!!!

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EnVy in halo again would be a vibe elumnite as a coach then any potential free agents

somber swift
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lots of possibilities

hearty wave
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Indeed monster energy and EnVy partnership would make it complete

empty hull
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Give me that Team Envy skin back pretty please. Its the only HCS team skin i missed

noble field
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Mental posted he is a FA now.

hearty wave
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Damn

maiden cosmos
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Is there an off season tourney tomorrow??

somber swift
delicate glacier
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Bubu, manny, Sab, and Septify are competing under Cloud9.

noble field
delicate glacier
noble field
delicate glacier
noble field
delicate glacier
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If they place low this week he’ll probably make another change.

candid badger
noble field
hazy wren
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Hey Guys. Has there been any dates set for London this year for the HCS 2025?

arctic quiver
somber swift
maiden cosmos
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King Nick was playing pretty great earlier, his team beat Bound and Renegade's team with Nick leading big

copper thunder
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Complexity is also changing something, I saw breakingshot tweet saying he's f/a for next season

quiet prairie
somber swift
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Interesting

noble field
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Sounds like they dropped Breakingshot to get Mental.

somber swift
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Agreed

hearty wave
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That's rough

somber swift
hearty wave
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Epicc

somber swift
bleak comet
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btw in which team is bubudubu?

delicate glacier
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Cloud 9.

frozen bobcat
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Ok if HCS announces in their season roadmap that Dallas gets to host more than one event this year like they did 2 years ago, I’m gonna crashout cause the CDL just announced a second Dallas event and I don’t want a repeat of 2023

fleet spire
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HEHE

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just strated with the game

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Halo 🙂

delicate glacier
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It still baffles me how Gunplexxion still can’t find a decent team. Everyone says he’s “unproven”, and then refuse to give him a chance to prove himself. The dude is an FFA champion and frags out at 3000+ onyx. What else does this guy have to do?

runic lodge
delicate glacier
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Ain’t gonna happen with the guys he’s teaming with. Not a chance.

runic lodge
candid badger
delicate glacier
somber swift
somber swift
noble field
somber swift
somber swift
slate blaze
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Gonna say this

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Formal should be playing Halo in this tourney not Marvel Rivals

quiet prairie
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Dang they didn't drop a single map from this LAN

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thats badass

somber swift
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Less scrims, less taking part in online tournaments

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I wonder, were all his new teammates playing today on other teams?

somber swift
quiet prairie
somber swift
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I think so

noble field
somber swift
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lol, honestly I hope Shopify and SSG trade wins all year

noble field
floral anvil
somber swift
noble field
floral anvil
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I mean he's made a name for himself and would be completely fine if he just streamed as a job. It's not like he needs halo.

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And it's not like Bound, Renegade and Lqgend are gonna say anything about it. They joined Optic for the branding to expand their streams and careers.

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But the real question is if this Optic roster is gonna show up to the first LAN and be as dominant as they seem they are gonna be

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Shopify getting these reps in the offseason surely will help them early on

light dove
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I feel sorry for Shopify after what optic did in that forbidden ctf 😭

candid badger
arctic quiver
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Wow, that's absolutely horrible :(

tame sandal
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Why, just why

somber swift
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Why do people suck so much sometimes

somber swift
copper thunder
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I read the ceo's tweet yesterday and I was in disbelief. He's apologizing and that's the bare minimum, but then instead of reassuring the people he owes money to that he will do what he can to solve the situation or at least try to do so, he started giving moral advices to others, as if this whole thing was already behind him and he learned from it...

slate blaze
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Him and has bad work ethic

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
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This was the announcement of the roadmap in advance, as promised!

noble field
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You nailed it @somber swift January 31st it is!

copper thunder
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SSG 🔥

thorny crescent
noble field
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My official guesses:

Dallas - May 22/23 weekend at Dreamhack

SLC again with SSG

Toronto with a new Shopify partnership.

Random guess of Anaheim or Raleigh.

Seattle Worlds in October.

somber swift
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I feel like we only get 3 majors plus worlds

noble field
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I can see that happening. That would be lame. Even if it was three majors and an online minor or something, still lame.

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I do still feel like the next Halo is coming out end of year or early 2026 and this HCS season is solely being done to keep the audience engaged in the interim. So three would make sense but it should be a full season.

somber swift
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Every year has had a different format so far, and year 4 is like a bonus year.
So I could see it slightly dialed back

hearty wave
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Hcs DC would be interesting

quiet prairie
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Maybe the return of Super this year ?

lethal silo
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Midwest HCS plz

hearty wave
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Hadn't had a halo event in Chicago since 2007

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And the Chicago combine in 2010

somber swift
quiet prairie
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Never being in problem in Year 1. And with so much less player, less risk

cold kayak
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HCS Japan 😤

somber swift
somber swift
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Separately,

I bet that the first online tournament of Year 4 is Feb 9th.
75% chance.

25% chance it'll be the 16th.

noble field
somber swift
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I definitely did not know that was super bowl day

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I change my prediction to be 90% Feb 16th, 5% Feb 9th and 5% Feb 23

quiet prairie
noble field
candid badger
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Wish HCS would branch out. Asia, ANZ(MX should be NA imo), and EU need some love

hearty wave
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EU came along way in competitive halo they didn't breakthrough the scene until Anaheim 2009

somber swift
somber swift
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Watch the VERY end

arctic quiver
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😄

somber swift
slate blaze
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Lucid calling out OpTic

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Lmao

copper thunder
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Lucid and Stellur. my 2 favourite Infinite players are on the same roster now, next season is gonna be insane

quiet prairie
noble field
candid badger
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How big is it?

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Jk it's pretty big in the NA.

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Pretty much a holiday

noble field
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Last year it had 123M viewers. It’s expected that 16M people will call in sick the next day. Most of the year.

tame sandal
cold kayak
hearty wave
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Rostermania hasn't been the same since Walshy was dropped from FB

noble field
hearty wave
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Agreed

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Born to be a 2008 MLG H3 kid forced to be a modern halo zoomer

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Wish I got my competitive start during halo 5 pretty much

somber swift
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Confirmed Sentinels are gone from partnership on stream today

lilac jungle
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Neutral bomb? jesus

somber swift
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Shopify Confirmed Partner!

tame sandal
#

Where's Pure? Or did they disband?

somber swift
somber swift
quiet prairie
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ho no no Europe

tame sandal
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Nope, Quadrant quit

quiet prairie
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I know

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But a replacment would have been good

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Not a good sign for us

somber swift
quiet prairie
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50 k !

somber swift
tame sandal
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lol

somber swift
tame sandal
#

Your doubt has been answered @somber swift smirkle

quiet prairie
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2 Texas

somber swift
quiet prairie
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3 texas XDDDD

somber swift
#

the fist one doesnt' really count though

quiet prairie
#

its not HCS ?

somber swift
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it's a 4 team tournament invitational

quiet prairie
somber swift
#

We just can't win with a full roadmap

flint flax
#

hcs minneapolis

tame sandal
#

Tashi mentioned cities and all
But at the end of the day cost of venue is what will dictate this

somber swift
tame sandal
somber swift
flint flax
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these graphics go hard

quiet prairie
#

Apparently Texas is still tax heaven ^^

somber swift
#

2025 marks a historic year for competitive Halo and the HCS as we enter Year 4 for Halo Infinite esports. What makes this year historic? This is the first time a single Halo title has had full esports support for four consecutive years! This is important to note for two reasons; the first being that […]

frozen bobcat
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Wait if HCS is listening to community feedback on which city should host major 3, time to be so annoying advocating for it to be Chicago lol

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Again, doesn’t have to be downtown at McCormick Place, do it in Rosemont at the Stephens Convention Center

quiet prairie
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Maybe LA because its where Faze is based

frozen bobcat
#

Utah and Seattle already fill in the west coast events

quiet prairie
frozen bobcat
#

Plus we’re long overdue for an event in a different region of the US than the usual 3 (Texas, Utah, west coast)

cinder wyvern
somber swift
arctic quiver
#

Updated, thanks

tame sandal
arctic quiver
#

If there is a short url feel free to ping me with it

quiet prairie
#

We have little bit less opens (down from 12 from 10)

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Still a ANZ region

cinder wyvern
somber swift
quiet prairie
versed flame
#

is atriox going to return after halo infinite

sullen ginkgo
#

So is complexity not apart of the Dallas Cowboys anymore?

#

Jerry Jones eSports dynasty?

somber swift
#

i think they parted ways

sullen ginkgo
#

nvm on the website it says throwback gear

somber swift
frozen bobcat
sullen ginkgo
frozen bobcat
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Also all their stuff is labeled as “throwback” cause they’re in the process of redesigning their classic logo so they’re using throwbacks as their primary until the proper rebrand

sullen ginkgo
noble field
#

God I’m pumped up.

  • New mode on two maps.
  • New map with two modes.
  • Nerfed pick ups that hopefully won’t be GA’d any more.
  • Changed strafe that hopefully change the jiggle peak meta.
  • More orgs than I thought with the addition of TSM plus Faze not leaving.
  • Roadmap isn’t terrible. Actually think I’m going to go to Dreamhack because it sounds fun with COD and CSGO also having an event that weekend there.
  • Fifth LAN to watch with the “top4” teams to start us off.
somber swift
noble field
#

Kind of an interesting choice to have the major on Easter Sunday. 🤷🏻‍♂️

somber swift
#

I'll post up a summary for the Roadmap and the first event soon

runic lodge
noble field
somber swift
delicate glacier
#

Is Native Gaming still putting a team in or are they out?

hearty wave
#

So who's carrying EU halo since quadrant left all eSports and itb dissolved

noble field
noble field
delicate glacier
#

Alright.

noble field
#

I’m honestly hoping that Noob gets that org with the squad he has been running. They actually are doing really well in the Opens and N8V seems big on picking up well known guys in the scene with followers like Mikwen and APG. Noob makes sense there.

delicate glacier
#

Yeah I agree with that for sure. Curious what Lethul and Kulect are up to right now with everything getting finalized.

noble field
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Same. I think Lethul will sneak his way onto a team somehow but he could be done. Very curious about that. As for Kuhlect, I think that days of him getting a chance might be over. Guy is so talented but people seem to not like to play with him.

candid badger
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Lethxl would be a good teacher i think

delicate glacier
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I think C9 should drop sab and sceptify. Pick up Lethul and Kulect. Keep manny and Bubu.

runic lodge
somber swift
runic lodge
somber swift
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I think more like top 16, but yeah

runic lodge
somber swift
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Hope they can clutch up

runic lodge
somber swift
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?

runic lodge
somber swift
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Oh.
That doesn't mean they make it to pools guaranteed

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Also, you can turn off pings when you reply to me 😊

runic lodge
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If itb roster or jimbo roster do top 6, they will have a place in pool

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Like last year

somber swift
runic lodge
#

And they won against latam or mindfreak for the world qualification

somber swift
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Maybe LATAM second team?

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Mindfreak went to worlds I remember

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And so did main LATAM team

runic lodge
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But yeah, it will be difficult for eu, if jimbo's team or it's roster don't have a good org to be focused at 100% on the game.

#

Do you think pro players will try ranked squad battle ?

somber swift
#

Maybe for fun

runic lodge
delicate glacier
#

SSG winning this weekend would be such a flex.

maiden cosmos
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Are the weapons getting un-GA'd??

somber swift
somber swift
#

tomorrow gonna be good
We've got SSG, Shopify and 3/4 of Optic all playing!

somber swift
jagged turtle
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Thank you so much for these updates

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Made my day seeing the roadmap at work this morning

noble field
#

Sad about Suspector but at least he is doing something. Wish he got picked up.

somber swift
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he was on C9

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wonder who is taking his spot

jagged turtle
#

The rosters are insane this year

somber swift
#

Agreed!

somber swift
noble field
copper thunder
#

I'm very curious to see how competitive is going to evolve after the update.

copper thunder
#

It's obviously too soon to tell but yesterday in the off season tourney i think we already saw Optic having good chemistry, especially Formal and Renegade, something i wasn't able to see from Spacestation yet. But once again i was really impressed with Last Shot, he's so good right now it reminds me of season 1 Lucid for how consistently cracked he is. In general Shopify's teamwork seems to get better and better

copper thunder
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also that grand final oddball game was crazy ||everything went wrong for Optic at the end. Formal played the ball from C balcony maybe he could've waited a bit but Royal 2 was flanking and Bound with camo didn't get the beatdown on Frosty, then Last Shot grabs and keeps ball just enough to go to ot getting the trade on Tusk too. Then R2 was able to pass the ball to Frosty in C only thanks to repulsor to win the game. It was like a crazy series of events that went in favor of Shopify lol||

maiden cosmos
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Forreal

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Shopify are definitely the best team in the league right now

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Making Optic and SSG look over-hyped af, lol

copper thunder
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Well...Optic looked good imo, especially if you think that Formal spent most of the off season on marvel rivals and they also played with Tusk because Legend is still in France

candid badger
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Ehh it's online, I'm going to give it a few weeks till a LAN or teams have more time together.

somber swift
hearty wave
#

Clutch all over again

hearty wave
#

Wonder if elumnite would've done well if he came back to coach on infinite

versed flame
#

halo coming to ps5

arctic quiver
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Nothing like that has been announced or hinted at

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Also this channel isn't for general Halo discussion, that would be #halo-discussion

copper thunder
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ok after playing for a bit i don't think the shotguns will be unGA'd 😂 Shock is still pretty good on mnk, i can't really tell the difference. Stalker i could feel the slightly slower rate of fire but i think in the hands of the pros is still going to make a difference on Streets. The new jumps are great, especially the one on Recharge to reach glass even tough i missed them 90% of the time

maiden cosmos
#

Where can we watch the pro teams play more often? Like practice, scrims, etc. I want to watch SR play more often!

somber swift
somber swift
noble field
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It’s amazing how different Fortress and Aquarius play with bomb. Can’t wait to see the pros playing it.

hearty wave
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It's going to be interesting

somber swift
#

HCS Year 4 - 2025 Calendar:

SPLIT 1
Mar 1-2 Online Open #1 (Mar 2 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
Mar 8-9 Online Open #2 (Mar 9 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
Mar 15-16 Online Open #3 (Mar 16 only for EU/MX/ANZ)

Mar 22-23 NA Pool Qualifier
Mar 23 EU Pool Qualifier
Mar 23 MX and ANZ Open Qualifiers (for 1 team travel to Open Bracket each)

March 29 - SPECIAL EVENT - KAYSAN'S SHOWDOWN
FaZe, OpTic, Shopify Rebellion & Spacestation 4 team $50K invitational LAN - online viewing only
No HCS Points
https://x.com/kaysan/status/1885447481602805806

Apr 18-20 Arlington OpTic Major
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/optic-major

Apr 26-27 Online Open #4 (Apr 27 only for EU/MX/ANZ)

May 3-4 NA Pool Qualifier NA
May 4 EU Pool Qualifier EU
May 4 MX & ANZ Open Qualifier

May 23-25 Dreamhack Dallas Open
https://dreamhack.com/dallas/tickets/

SPLIT 2

June 7-8 Online Open #5 (June 8 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
June 21-22 Online Open #6 (June 22 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
June 28-29 Online Open #7 (June 29 only for EU/MX/ANZ)

July 12-13 NA Pool Qualifier
July 13 EU Pool Qualifier
July 13 MX and ANZ Open Qualifiers (for 1 team travel to Open Bracket each)

Aug 1-3 SSG Salt Lake Major
https://x.com/Spacestation/status/1885448127731425675

Aug 16-17 Online Open #8 (Aug 17 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
Aug 23-24 Online Open #9 (Aug 24 only for EU/MX/ANZ)
Aug 30-31 Online Open #10 (Aug 31 only for EU/MX/ANZ)

Sep 6-7 NA Major Qualifier
Sep 7 EU Major Qualifier
Sep 7 MX and ANZ Open Championships (1 team travel to Open Bracket each)

"Early Fall - TBD" FaZe Major

Oct 24-26 Halo World Championship 2025 - Seattle
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2025roadmap
https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2025/01/HCS_2025_Program_Handbook_v2.5.2.docx.pdf
https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2025/01/HCS_2025_Code_of_Conduct_v1.0.docx.pdf

HALO HCS 4 TEAM LAN 50K
DALLAS TEXAS 🌪
MARCH 29th ON MY TWITCH
FIRST EVENT OF THE YEAR 💥

🚨FULL TEAMS🚨

FaZe (Roster Announcement Soon)
OpTic Gaming
Spacestation
Shopify Rebellion

This Spring, Halo esports returns to Texas! (Yeehaw) Join us at Esports Stadium Arlington on April 18-20 as OpTic Gaming hosts the 2025 Kickoff Major! From the 4v4 open bracket to the many side tournaments on offer, there will be much for Halo fans and competitors to sink their teeth into. For full tournament details, […]

DreamHack Dallas

Here’s our selection of 3-day tickets and IEM Add-ons. All 3-day tickets come with access to the festival. However some may come with extra perks or different features!

. YOU HEARD THE BOSS MAN RIGHT
WE’RE RUNNING IT BACK
🏔️ SALT LAKE CITY | SALT PALACE 🏔️
AUGUST 1st - 3rd

2025 marks a historic year for competitive Halo and the HCS as we enter Year 4 for Halo Infinite esports. What makes this year historic? This is the first time a single Halo title has had full esports support for four consecutive years! This is important to note for two reasons; the first being that […]

maiden cosmos
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Is there another off season tourney tomorrow??

torpid beacon
#

TIME TO GO PRO IN HALO

runic lodge
#

[POLL] VOTE FOR ENVY

ENVY is conducting a poll to decide which game the organization should return to:
🔗 https://x.com/Envy/status/1888348635131527440

How to vote:

1️⃣ Vote "OTHER (mention to us)"
2️⃣ Comment "Halo"
3️⃣ (Optional) Feel free to comment on these pictures in addition to your vote!

Spread the word and spam for ENVY Halo’s comeback ❤️
Fingers crossed 🤞

quick beacon
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yo do you win money for HCS majors?

hollow shadow
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perhaps

quick beacon
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thats what i thought, but the way the picture looks only HWC has a prizepool listed lol

arctic quiver
quick beacon
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makes sense, thanks

somber swift
noble field
#

That’s awesome.

upbeat imp
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Guys. I'm looking for three experienced Halo Infinite players to start HCS training.

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DM me if you want to discuss it.

supple kettleBOT
# upbeat imp Guys. I'm looking for three experienced Halo Infinite players to start HCS train...

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
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#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
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Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

upbeat imp
#

Thank you.

somber swift
#

Time for Faze and C9 to announce already!

somber swift
runic lodge
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nice

quiet prairie
#

Still a shame to no have a real structure form Europe in Halo for 2025 :/

somber swift
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There seems to be a strong scene forming in non HCS though

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Europa Blackpool was great, and EuroHalo did one recently too

runic lodge
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European Halo league, is pretty good and strong. They just need more partners, more visibility, and having an EU team with a big organization.

quiet prairie
somber swift
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I know that.
But it built a foundation that showed what grassroots is capable of

torpid beacon
#

Any updates on halo mcc

crude pewter
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Hi

arctic quiver
somber swift
delicate glacier
candid badger
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Oooh

delicate glacier
candid badger
#

I'm pretty hyped. Cloud 9 is partnered.

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And there's some insanely good players left over still.

somber swift
nova basalt
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Lethul should be on cloud 9.

delicate glacier
candid badger
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I think kuhlect is doing something different this year

runic lodge
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btb tournament tomorrow

tame sandal
rugged swallow
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Bump for this tourney TODAY RIGHT NOW ^^

somber swift
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Totally

delicate glacier
#

Tapping buttons team has been looking really good in scrims lately. They went 5-5 against Complexity, 10-1 against Nemesis, 9-0 against Lies, and even took 5 games off of SSG. 👀

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Those boys could upset a lot of teams this season.

candid badger
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They've always been solid online from what I remember

delicate glacier
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Then they should be better on lan since their ping online is really high.

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Key word being “should”.

candid badger
#

Akave esports did pretty good at worlds

runic lodge
somber swift
tiny sparrow
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unfortunately, the bigger playlists don't get taken seriously or end up just being a side station event, but maybe things will change.

somber swift
brazen hearth
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:)

copper thunder
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i'm not being serious btw 🤣

somber swift
somber swift
#

Hoping we get the faceit signups soon...

quiet prairie
#

insert trolling phrase 🙂

somber swift
candid badger
#

Black and white is gonna go hard!
And is shopify purple and green?

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Or purple and blue since moist joined?

floral anvil
#

Any chance the Faze event that is TBD is going to happen at Raleigh?

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Or just in general on the east coast?

noble field
floral anvil
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Hmm

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Whens the latest they can start announcing this stuff?

somber swift
#

I'd say, they need more than 2 months notice bare minimum

quiet prairie
#

Tashi said they want to announce not likeCharlotte

somber swift
somber swift
noble field
#

Triggers Down started being followed on Halo Data Hive. Lethul, Kuhlect, Descendant, Ezho. I actually like that a lot.

somber swift
arctic quiver
quiet solar
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my bad darn it

somber swift
somber swift
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Making way for the roster announcement

delicate glacier
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Better late than never.

noble field
somber swift
# noble field This is sad. C9 was better with him.

🎉 Welcome @Svspector to the Ascending Baseline Family!

@Svspector is now an official content creator, streamer, and partner with Ascending Baseline!

For now, he'll be taking a break from competing and doing a lot of things with AB exclusively:
- Playing in our 8s
- Competing

noble field
somber swift
#

I guess we'll see how it all breaks down in real tournament play

noble field
#

For sure. Always rooting for the upset.

somber swift
#

I wonder if it was his choice to take a break from competing

noble field
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Interesting point. I do doubt financially he will do better doing content for AB as opposed to playing with C9, but it isn’t always a financial decision.

candid badger
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I know Ayden liked coaching a lot

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
runic lodge
#

Why dreamhack is an open, not a major ? What consequences etc ?

cold kayak
copper thunder
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omg

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S&D extraction HCSeyes

runic lodge
copper thunder
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like for real if it was me i'd have an experimental playlist to test game changes like different sandbox for maps, starting weapons/equipment, new or returning maps and modes

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and then based on feedback they can be added to ranked/competitive

runic lodge
copper thunder
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yes, i'm very curious to see how it plays in Halo

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also the 20.000$ forge hub tournament is nice, hopefully with that prize pool we'll see pro teams in iti got this completely wrong lol, still cool for forgers though

runic lodge
# copper thunder yes, i'm very curious to see how it plays in Halo

We'll see, but I doubt the vision it gives. For me, Halo is about going out to find your loot and fighting to get it on the map, not looting at the start of the match in menus (especially since you can see in the video that it gives a camo and a rocket as loot).

And defending a point for 1 minute feels long.

copper thunder
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yeah obviously it's too soon to judge but i'm also worried about that, i'm not a fan of picking loadouts at the start, i think it's in Halo's dna to be on the same loadout and fight for power weapons and equipment on the map. Thing is that it might be difficult to balance, i think defending teams could have a big advantage potentially, i guess we'll see how it plays out with those rules. Still very curious to see

somber swift
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Likely, less teams, smaller prize pool, less points

runic lodge
somber swift
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Yes

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Not sure on it's size though

runic lodge
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Normally, how many teams are they in a open bracket major ?

noble field
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The open bracket could be online too prior. Also in the past when size was an issue, I believe SLC, they did some of the open bracket online and then finished the last few rounds in person.

runic lodge
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Maybe they will just do an open bracket during the lan with only 8 to 16 teams

somber swift
empty hull
#

Do we know what the drops are this weekend?

somber swift
somber swift
torpid beacon
#

Question of the day

What’s something you used to dislike but have grown to appreciate over time?

cold kayak
torpid beacon
cold kayak
noble field
#

Now I want to do the HCS version of this. 😂

cold kayak
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Go for it

somber swift
#

So, ANZ still only had 3 teams enter

noble field
noble field
# cold kayak Go for it

Something I disliked at first but has grown on me over time is definitely the Bandit. Wasn’t a fan at first and now I really like it.

candid badger
#

Question of the day!

Who will win today?

short badge
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This is a question for everyone that is educated in HSC Comp, Who is better bound or lqgend in y’all’s opinion? Dont just give a answer also give the reason for it

somber swift
golden canopy
candid badger
cold kayak
somber swift
#

That OT issue in assault is frustrating

candid badger
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What exactly is the issue? That it comes out of nowhere with no audio? Or that it isn't like ctf?

noble field
candid badger
#

Ohh that's bad

noble field
# candid badger Ohh that's bad

Occasionally the ball gets stuck, usually around stairs it seems, which leads to just playing for 30 seconds and letting it reset. But that OT glitch is BAD. Hadn’t seen it until the grand finals yesterday.

somber swift
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At least Shopify still won that game

runic lodge
#

Do you think the roster of Lies (gunplexion, Parabola, xeod, perzecute) can be in pool to do top 16 ?

somber swift
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Not really

floral anvil
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that roster probably won't exist come this weekend

candid badger
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Id be surprised if it does

daring nova
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Guys why the heck the game keep kicking me

daring nova
somber swift
somber swift
#

Hi @ornate crescent - do you know if 2025 points will be tracked in a Google sheet again?

somber swift
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I somehow missed something

daring nova
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So thank you anyways

somber swift
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Ok, glad you got it working

arctic quiver
torpid beacon
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Ok

somber swift
somber swift
tiny sparrow
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did lethul fall off or are his teammates pretty good? I only know hoaxer.

somber swift
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Descendant is 'new-ish' I think he came from Gears previously, and was on Complexity for part of 2023/2024. Kuhlect is a young gun who has been in/out most of Infinite. Ezho is moving from being a top AM into more extablished Pro.

tiny sparrow
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okay, just used to seeing him with top teams.

candid badger
somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
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Halo Esports (@HCS) on X

restive field
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Hi halo bt

main sky
somber swift
somber swift
cold kayak
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players

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must be AM players

somber swift
noble field
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Mortally and Piggy for sure have seen pools. I think Yakzn once. I don’t think Avucy has though. But yea it’s a stronger top AM team. Top16 potential for sure.

candid badger
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Yakzn season 1 team made pools and worlds i believe

barren spoke
runic lodge
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There's too much Semi-pro and am team In NA that can be in pool.
😂🤙

charred scroll
#

hello

vast kelp
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Hello

noble field
# candid badger Yakzn has

To be fair I did say he has. Not sure about Worlds. I’ve attended each one and don’t recall him playing in any. Could definitely be wrong though.

noble field
somber swift
pine ledge
#

I just realized that one of the opens for hcs is happening between the 1st and 16th. Is it too late to join?

somber swift
somber swift
pine ledge
somber swift
#

You should also join the Faceit Halo Discord

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Clutch Academy is also a good place to look for players.

I sent you some DMs

#

.

You'll need to have a Faceit account, and link it to your Xbox account

somber swift
#

OpTic v 🛒

somber swift
noble field
#

@somber swift Is HCS or anyone posting points after the Open? Are you? I’m super curious where we are on points. Got a feeling we start to see some team changes and points will matter.

somber swift
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I also do a team seeding I keep relatively updated

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Can share that with you later tonight

noble field
noble field
noble field
#

For the Major, is it 8 NA teams from qualifier and then two more NA teams from points?

sweet shuttle
#

Is Sentinels not partnered anymore?
all their coatings in Infinite are vaulted, but I don't remember seeing anything about them leaving or sumn, unless I'm blind

somber swift
#

Correct, they are not partnered anymore.
They didn't sign a roster for 2025 and didn't announce anything going either.
It was mentioned in the 2025 roadmap announcement blog by HCS though.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2025roadmap

2025 marks a historic year for competitive Halo and the HCS as we enter Year 4 for Halo Infinite esports. What makes this year historic? This is the first time a single Halo title has had full esports support for four consecutive years! This is important to note for two reasons; the first being that […]

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Oops

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@sweet shuttle

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Also, apparently I answered both in one post...

sweet shuttle
#

interesting

restive field
#

La la

severe widget
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they left the Halo scene and turned to Marvel rivals

noble field
#

Man Complexity on the fence of pools right now. Crazy.

frozen bobcat
#

So Native announced a merger with the recently revived Envy

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Think we could see them return during the Dreamhack open or next season?

somber swift
frozen bobcat
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Yeah check Envy’s Twitter

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
#

Triggers Down, reversal perfy, Tenrai

A few squads that might get signed.

candid badger
#

Mental is chang?

somber swift
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I believe so

somber swift
runic lodge
runic lodge
#

12 teams directly qualified in pool (10 NA and 2 EU)
Open bracket (first anz, mx and third eu team who join the pool; and probably one more NA team who will join the pool: maybe lies or ascend baseline)

somber swift
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Ok

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True/likely

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I'm not sure what you are getting at?

runic lodge
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not sure who will be the NA team in open bracket that will join the pool

somber swift
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Ok.
But you replied to me talking about who might get signed to an org

runic lodge
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ohh yeah

somber swift
#

Are you saying anyone in pools might get signed?

Maybe not enough tier 1 orgs

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Or were you just sorta speculating on who might make pools?

somber swift
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Cool, gotcha!

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Personally, I think it's still early to tell, we've only had 2 opens

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But 3rd EU team making pools typically isn't guaranteed

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Same for ANZ, mindfreak is hit or miss

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MX region team has been consistent though, and with Tapping Buttons, they're even stronger

runic lodge
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So there could be more NA teams making it to the pool stage, you think?

somber swift
brisk drum
somber swift
delicate glacier
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Any news on what Barcode has been up to recently? Was he ever dropped by Native gaming?

runic lodge
somber swift
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For the embed, PIPA looking for an ORG
https://x.com/KronosZer/status/1900244042379579799

Pipa is looking for a new home to represent for the 2025 @HCS season !

The season’s first LAN is next month in Arlington with travel and accommodation fully covered

For inquiries, reach out via DM (@KronosZer / @Jimbossity) or at kronoszer.pro@gmail.com

delicate glacier
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Shame.

somber swift
somber swift
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April 18-20 Arlington Major $250,0000 hosted by OpTic info:
Blog:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/optic-major

**Tickets $50: **
Tickets: https://www.tixr.com/groups/esa/events/hcs-major-arlington-2025-hosted-by-optic-133801
No VIP

Team Passes $250
Register: https://www.start.gg/tournament/hcs-major-arlington-2025/details

Event Schedule:
https://x.com/HCS/status/1910412909517361588
https://x.com/HCS/status/1910873405815218589

Location:
1200 Ballpark Way, Arlington, TX

Format:
Qualifiers > Open Bracket > 16 Team Pool Play > 12 Team Champ Bracket

Qualifiers for Pools:
NA Top 8 from Online Qualifier
NA Top remaining 2 in points
EU Top 1 from Online Qualifier
EU Top remaining 1 in points
Open Bracket top 4

Travel Coverage for Open:
1 team from each region in top points after Qualifier or Online Open.
(NA, EU, MX, ANZ)

Pool Play + Champ Bracket Maps/Modes:
https://x.com/HCS/status/1909715720365297682

Top 4 from this tournament will lock into Dreamhack Pools.

FFA $5,000:
Infinite - Top 8 get prizing

Side Tournaments $10,000
Infinite 1v1 Showdown - $5,000
H3 2v2 - $1,000
H5 2v2 - $1,000
Infinite 2v2 - $1,500
H3 4v4 - $1,500
https://x.com/HCS/status/1907570287480287632

Where to watch:
https://www.twitch.tv/halo
https://www.twitch.tv/hcs
https://www.twitch.tv/hcs_Red
https://www.twitch.tv/hcs_Blue
Co-streams: LVT Halo
https://x.com/LVTHalo/status/1911815259943506373

Talent
https://x.com/HCS/status/1912303526891659372

Drops
https://x.com/HCS/status/1911919202187022734

Seeding (Unofficial)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YQpTTjivt2UHhMprZTUPlMNDoWSVcZJ7TIhONmaNecA/edit?gid=1096584409#gid=1096584409

Rules:
HCS: https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2025/01/HCS_2025_Program_Handbook_v2.5.2.docx.pdf
Event Specific:
https://wpassets.halowaypoint.com/wp-content/2025/03/HCS-Arlington-2025-Ruleset.pdf

This weekend, Halo esports returns to Texas! Join us at Esports Stadium Arlington on April 18-20 as OpTic Gaming hosts the 2025 Kickoff Major! From the 4v4 open bracket to the many side tournaments on offer, there will be much for Halo fans and competitors to sink their teeth into. For full tournament details, check […]

start.gg

The best place for HCS Major Arlington 2025 brackets, streams, standings and schedules all in one place!

The first Major of the year kicks off next Friday!

Grab your tickets now and join us live at #HCSArlington25

📅 April 18-20
📍 @EsportsStadium Arlington
🎟️ https://t.co/HruvHDoUBR

Day 1 matches for the #HCSArlington25 Kickoff Major are LOCKED 🔒

Set those reminders - We'll see you next week 🫡

💰 $250,000
📅 April 18-20
🕛 12p CT / 6p BST

latent aspen
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Looking for team of 2 for hcs alrlighton Texas, Saturday March 15-16

somber swift
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or do you mean for both?

latent aspen
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For both

somber swift
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You should check out Clutch Academy, might find people there

latent aspen
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Okay thank you

somber swift
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Starting in less than an hour!

noble field
somber swift
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I didn't watch

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Reading what you said though, keep in mind - this is his perspective

noble field
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True. I’m sure it’s worse than what he is saying.

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Side note, @somber swift was just mentioned by Tooles on stream. 😂

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
noble field
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Yea probably.

somber swift
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March 24 for pools and travel, April 14 for everyone else

somber swift
somber swift
drifting rune
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Chat, Charlie is watch partying the grand finals rn 🥲

candid badger
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TSM didn't make top8?

somber swift
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knocked out by ryanoob's squad

copper thunder
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these first few tournaments were just a taste of what is to come and i can't wait for lan. I expected Shopify to be good, i thought they could give Optic a run for their money and potentially beat them but what we've seen is they're the team to beat. They're just gross at the game, it felt like they were playing with Optic in grand finals.

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when i saw the maps and modes i thought they could reset the bracket but i wasn't expecting them to be so dominant in both series

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that koth game on Solitude was emblematic for me, they played time when up 2-1 with a minute left on the clock and Optic saved themselves at 0 seconds, but even with that plan failing and Optic already getting time on the next hill they were able to take control of it and win without much issues

candid badger
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I'm definitely voting for them on the first LAN, but I'm waiting to see how they perform on LAN. I don't remember seeing a lot from lastshot on LAN.

somber swift
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I'm excited for the first LAN

candid badger
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Is there a benefit to being 1st vs 2nd seed?

somber swift
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You play lower seeded opponents

candid badger
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How low?

somber swift
# candid badger How low?

Let's say there are 48 teams.
1st seed plays against the 48th, second against the 47th.

But really where it matters is how the bracket continues to unfold, as the higher seed continues on a path of playing the lower seeded winners throughout.

It's all about how the bracket gets structured

candid badger
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Jesus 1st seed vs 48 seed would be awful tbh. I'm sure the seeding mostly takes pmay at LANs? And for online gives higher seeded teams a bye.

somber swift
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For onlines it works how I mentioned it.
There's only a bye if the # of teams isn't a beautiful number that is like a multiple of 8 or whatever

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For POOL Play at LANs, the seeding is determined by:
-placements at prior LAN (if applicable)
-previous qualifiers
-points
-open bracket at LAN

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For open bracket at LANs, (meaning those that didn't pre qualify for pools) seeding is determined by points, and subtly by region for the top 1 team per region

candid badger
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Thanks GOAT!

drifting rune
somber swift
somber swift
short badge
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Best player on optic Is?....

noble field
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Renegade

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somber swift
candid badger
# short badge Best player on optic Is?....

Hard to say they all have their small niche.
Best in a 1v1 could be any of them besides formal( he is good but the other 3 do things differently). Renegade plays cover and has very good right stick aim.
Bound is aggressive and mixes things up but also has good right stick aim.
Lqgend uses the map to his advantage. He hits curb slide shots all the time or uses more mechanics in his fight.
Id almost say lqgend is better in 1s but they are all good in their own way.
When it comes to down to it all 4 are arguably in the top 10. Longer range I'm giving it to formal.

somber swift
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New emotes:
shopify tsm

cold kayak
candid badger
somber swift
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I swear to God if we go into this weekend's qualifier with Faze not having announced their team yet...

candid badger
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Same

somber swift
somber swift
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@candid badger fyi ^

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Side tournaments!

half fable
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When HCS Coatings ?

copper thunder
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i think Tashi said they're coming during an interview on LVT but i don't think there's an estimated time of arrival, hopefully before the Kaysan event

candid badger
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Think FAZE will delay drop their HCS coating? Like their roster announcement?

somber swift
candid badger
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They should delay FAZE's until they announce the roster.

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That would show em

somber swift
noble field
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Bedur isn’t their actual name?!?!?

somber swift
noble field
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Which team was he on again?

somber swift
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The top MX team, ETHR

candid badger
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Who replaced him?

somber swift
candid badger
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Traded for tapping right?
If so i actually see this team doing pretty good tapping was lowkey very good.

somber swift
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Tapping has been in MX all year so far

candid badger
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Oh really

somber swift
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Yep!

noble field
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I was about to say when I saw the roster Leuor definitely wasn’t on that team before. Good for him. Hopefully they win this weekend and get the paid travel and locked in with that roster.

somber swift
past wind
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sR optic most entertaining series ive seen in a min ngl

somber swift
copper thunder
# past wind sR optic most entertaining series ive seen in a min ngl

I think we never had 2 teams battling it out like Shopify and Optic this year. Then again it's online so we need to see how it transfers over to lan but i don't think it will be much different. (even though Shopify is always playing on higher ping on average against Optic)

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I think this qualifier not only cemented Shopify and Optic as the top 2 teams but also Faze and SSG as 3rd and 4th best teams. I feel the players on Faze are so naturally low profile so people tend to underestimate them, but if you look at their Halo Infinite stats they are all really really good and play very well together. I'm a bit disappointed in SSG (i'm pretty much rooting for all of these teams to do well) because i expected them to be closer to Optic and Shopify after almost 2 months of practice

lilac jungle
# past wind SSG seemed uncomfortable

Something is clearly not clicking right now. In the optic series lucid was going off but eco and SB couldnt quite get it going. By the end of the series eco picked it up but Lucid couldnt keep up the slaying into the the last game.

candid badger
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I'm curious of pool C. FAZE vs tsm. I'd almost say pool A is the hardest pool or pool D if COL gets it together.

candid badger
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I'm curious of pool C. FAZE vs tsm. I'd almost say pool A is the hardest pool or pool D if COL gets it together.

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Super early prediction. Svspector comes back in May after point delay like he says.
Im guessing he joins COL or LG. Depending on salary maybe C9

noble field
somber swift
severe widget
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so when does the 2025 HCS skins go live?

runic lodge
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Reversal perfy potentially : envy × native ?

runic lodge
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Or pipaa

somber swift
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Probably reversal perfy

lilac jungle
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Yikes pool D is brutal

somber swift
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Same with C

noble field
# lilac jungle Yikes pool D is brutal

Are we sold on how good Luminosity is yet? I think online is a good indicator or what’s to come but they are the one team I question the results of.

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I personally think Pool A is the toughest.

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Yeah pool A is pretty nutty too. I think that Luminisity team is going to do really good and that team is going to get poached more than likely. Even top 8 for those players would be huge. But in terms of performance, I think they'll show up. Im questioning TD more than anyone and I hope im wrong, but I think theyre going to under perform. Lethul is one my favorite players but theyve been struggling lately. C9 is the real deal though, but SR wont have any issues.

runic lodge
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Nemesis is very strong

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I think they can do at least one top 4 or top3 this season

noble field
candid badger
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What are the do and do nots at a LAN?
What should someone bring to be prepared?
What are some things people should know?
What are some things people shouldn't do?

noble field
runic lodge
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Faze kaysan showdown , do we have any news about this ? No ads, nothing, it's on 29th march, will be a flop probably

somber swift
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It's mentioned in the roadmap

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I imagine we'll see some tweets and other social media posts tomorrow and Friday from various sources promoting it

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Kaysan has a large personal following, it likely won't need a massive advertising campaign to be well watched

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His personal twitch has 340K followers.

runic lodge
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and just promoting 2 days before

somber swift
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Don't get me wrong, more advertisement is probably never a bad thing.

But I wouldn't sound the alarm quite yet.
For whatever reason, FaZe announces things last minute all the time.
I guess they think it's effective.

runic lodge
somber swift
runic lodge
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Dream hack will only be 150k for 16 teams

somber swift
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Do you know the distribution?

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Also, it gives HCS points which is important

somber swift
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These are my absolute guesses at what the breakdown would be

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I can't see any of the teams travelling to an invitational LAN for less than a $5k guarantee, when Dreamhack top 4 gets them $12k

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But yeah, more advertisement wouldn't hurt

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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So it's 8 team pools, 6 team champ bracket.
48 team open bracket.
Top 2 from Arlington lock pools.
Top 1 from each of NA and EU qualifiers lock pools (2).
Top 1 from each of NA and EU points get pools (2).
Top 2 from open bracket get into pools.

Bottom 2 from pools are eliminated.

Seems odd format for a 3 day event.

noble field
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The open bracket will have some VERY good teams in it. For NA, looks like everyone outside of the Top4 will be an Open Bracket team. Only makes sense to have Friday dedicated to it and Saturday morning too before Pools start Saturday mid day.

noble field
somber swift
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Yeah, it sounds like space is the main issue

candid badger
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People have a hard time grasping this lol

somber swift
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But even still, 6 team champ bracket sounds silly

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I don't see a reason it couldn't be 8

candid badger
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Yeah it is super silly. Part of me thinks there is a time constraint as well as space

somber swift
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Time isn't likely the main issue, it's still a 3 day event.
My money is on space.

somber swift
runic lodge
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Nice

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do you think, they can change the dreamhck format ?

somber swift
runic lodge
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but the fomrat is wild: 6 teams champ brackets, and 2 teams in elimination bracket directly

somber swift
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i agree

runic lodge
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and we all know, that it will be shopify, faze, optic, ssg in winner bracket. So for the elimination bracket team it will be difficult, no second chance

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or maybe nemesis will beat one of this top 4 team in pool (like faze or ssg), to get in winner brackets

somber swift
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it's a toss up, really

candid badger
somber swift
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We don't know yet for those details

candid badger
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Dang

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I imagine space for sure being a construct but I feel like they do have an issue for time. I remember someone saying the tournaments went by fast and started later and ended earlier.

somber swift
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all the recent majors have been 64 team open bracket, and 4 pools of 4 teams, with at least 12 team champ bracket.
Across 3 days

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we still have 3 days, but now only 48 team open bracket, 2 pools of 4 teams, and 6 team champ bracket.

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if floor space was the issue, fine - but it doesn't make sense why champ bracket would be cut down - time is the same and we've got significantly less teams anyway

somber swift
candid badger
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Weird then

somber swift
noble field
candid badger
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Isn't split one in may?

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So one major?

somber swift
noble field
candid badger
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I mean is dreamhack really that big?

somber swift
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Split 2 starts in June

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My point being, Suspector decided to sit out Split 1, and feels he can earn enough points in split 2 after the first split's decay of 75% and still make worlds on a decent team.

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now, given that the format of Dreamhack is so strange, it makes it even less relevant for him to miss it, points wise.

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He made this choice before full details of Dreamhack were known

runic lodge
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@somber swift do you have the ranking of all NA and EU team on the open

somber swift
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Based on the last Faceit tournaments in each region

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I also have a tab specifically for Arlington, based on teams that have signed up so far.
More will soon.

runic lodge
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thx

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who's the team with travell coverage in NA ?

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why is not ascend baseline with travel coverage ?

somber swift
somber swift
vocal basin
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Anyone who has attended HCS Worlds, how much $ did you typically spend for the trip to Seattle? My buddy & I wanted to go n we were wondering about a rough estimate for 2 people once ur in Seattle

candid badger
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How much money should one bring for merch?

somber swift
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But if you can make yourself breakfast,and a late dinner every day it saves a lot

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Just buying lunch out

somber swift
candid badger
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Oooh

noble field
somber swift
copper thunder
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Kaysan event today! ChiefDab

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Can't wait to see the S&D game mode and also Lucid, Renegade, Legend and Stellur vs Formal, Frosty, Last Shot, Trippy, these teams are insane 🤣

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as much as i'm rooting for Trippy and Last Shot i think the first team is gonna be hard to stop, 3 mvps plus Renegade that was always in the conversation, i guess we'll see, can't wait

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
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There's a new charm drop

thin pier
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Still live going on but I want the drops!

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Let it sit for 2 hours with no sound and audio before I get the drop!

quiet prairie
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The budget menu is not very user friendly in the new mode

thin pier
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Drops obtained!

somber swift
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Nice

copper thunder
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The Kaysan event was great, year 4 of Halo Infinite is shaping up to be the best one yet. Optic and SR are so fun to watch. Gotta say i wasn't impressed from what we saw of the S&D game mode, i feel that in a mode like that movement needs to be tuned down as well as the time to kill. Also the power up for competitive i don't think it should be guns, just equipment

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i feel that the mode should be more tactical but with pro players you see people g-sliding around getting easy kills with bulldog or whatever 🤣

severe widget
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Guessing no new season skins?

sweet shuttle
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The season hasn't started yet iirc

somber swift
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It has started

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Tashi said on his last interview that the skins will be delayed until later in the year.
Which is disappointing

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My guess is split 2

severe widget
copper thunder
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Speaking of the grand finals controversy, it's the same thing that happens in the CDL and it's obviously unfair that Optic didn't get any advantage but i'm not a huge fan of the bracket reset as many people were asking. I think it punishes the team coming from losers way too much, especially if that team didn't lose to the team already in grand finals. Even for HCS i'd prefer a single best of 9 series with the advantage for the team that won winners finals being maps and modes vetoing and choosing on which side to start. Like for example in grand finals they didn't play oddball at all and Optic is arguably the best oddball team, if they could at least choose that it would've been more fair

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Also the matchups, to avoid the team already in grand finals to wait for hours before playing again, should always be winners final, losers final and then grand finals

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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It's how HCS typically does tournaments.

But there can be other ways.

The winners team should at least be given some advantage. If it's not the benefit of a bracket reset, it really should be something else.

But also, this was just a side tournament with a small ish amount of "free money" for those players.
Not a lot at stake