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FO3 has claimed their 3rd hill, taking the lead 3/4 to 2/4
Lore takes their 1st hill! now leading 1/4 to 0/4
Native has just beat Complexity in round 1 of match 1 Oddball, stream C
Lore has claimed their 2nd hill! now winning 2/4 to 0/4
cloud 9 has tied the game, 3/4 to 3/4
FO3 claims their final hill, Winning the match!
Cloud9 vs Foe has now tied matches 2-2 out of 5!
We got ourselves a game 5 
(how is my reporting going?)
I can’t watch right now so these updates are appreciated.
You’re making a good text commentator
Quadrant just claimed their 1st hill in stream B, now at 1/4 to 2/4 against Lore!
A slayer game 5 is what we all need
upcoming game 5 is Slayer on Live fire, FO3 vs Cloud9
tune in on stream A
complexity wins match 1 of C stream against native! bringing it to 1-0
slayer match 5 on stream A starts shortly!
Lore claims their 3rd hill against quadrant! bringing the match to 3/4 to 1/4!
Quadrant claims their 2nd hill! bringing their score to 2/4 against 3/4!
LORE WINS against Quadrant! time expired at 3/4 to 2/4!
D-stream is still offline
however, it appears that HCS are still playing D-stream as they display a quick view of D-stream on A-stream
Cloud9 vs Voe final match has begun! with cloud9 claiming 1st kill!
will Foe take the skies in a glorious victory? or will cloud9 stand tall and defeat their Foes?
match 2 has begun on c-stream (sorry late announcement)
complexity is nearing victory! 4 kills to go!
COMPLEXITY WINS! this brings complexity to 2 wins against none to native gaming
complexity wins 2-0 to Native
be back soon for stream B and C
foe vs cloud9 is going close, 31-28 kills so far
35-30
5 minutes remain!
FOE HAS A 10 KILL LEAD!
music of B and C stream adding to the intensity of this beautiful finale for Fo3 and Cloud9!
match 5 of Quadrant vs Lore has begun, with quadrant gaining first blood!
FOE CLAIMS VICTORY AGAINST CLOUD9!!! 3-2. the skies are clear spartans. safe flights!
congratulations, FO3 has claimed the main stage win!
50 kills to 44
complexity vs native match 3 has begun!
with complexity claiming 1st second on the stronghold claim metre!
QUADRANT WINS THE MATCH AGAINST LORE GAMING! score is now 3-2, congratulations, this quadrant is secured, lore accurate news, provided by Ray Steelscale!
Foe and Quadrant are bad men! Cloud 9 and Lore are sent home. EU proving themselves!
coming up on B-stream: Foe vs Proton gaming, it appears that Proton won their set in D-stream after the broadcast terminated
You called it yesterday. Foe is better than most are giving them credit for. I was pulling for them
COMPLEXITY WINS AGAINST NATIVE GAMING IN MATCH 3, 3-0 congratulations, the intricacies of any action are complex. the reactions numerous, but mostly predictable, native's loss however, was not predictable.
thats the end of C stream spartans.
brackets so far: https://hcs.faceitdb.com/brackets/arlington24-cb
FaZe Clan vs Optic Gaming...NOW! 
coming up, Optic vs Faze on A-Stream!
(but im announcing... pls let me announce in peace?)
Sure thing. 
🫶 ty
tonight is going to be an interesting one, as faze and optic face off for their place in the Upper finals!
LETS GO OPTIC CHANTS
Faze V optic semifinals UB
now we are at semifinals, match-specific notifications have a thread for each vs set.
stream B match 1 has begun!
remember to follow the threads to get live updates on them
another friendly reminder to follow the threads for match progress updates as they come!
proton claims a victory against FO3, wining 1 match to 0!
the halo 5 music from stream B beautifully accompanying the action of Stream A
be sure to follow the match announcement threads as they progress!
to the 27 thousand viewers watching at home, who do YOU think is winning this semifinal? faze or optic?
@golden canopy can u cover for me and watch stream A and B? and put updates in the threads as the matches progress?
Optic! 
OPTIC CLAIMS THE WIN in their set against Faze!
Stream B still live?
ye
pls cover the way i have, im starving rn
open the 2 threads in separate browser tabs like i do
I will do the best I can
big updates, such as overall victories, post here
thankies
dis floof gon go get her munchies settled
Can’t believe that was such a clean sweep. Faze didn’t seem to stand a chance
They blew up FaZe's plays it looked like
And they slayed out as well obviously
Lucid proved why hes the best in the World
Honestly i can't say i'm too surprised after watching the scrim they had last week
Optic were and are my favourite for this tournament
I love seeing this chat pop off
Proton Gaming up 2-0 over Foe currently on B Stream
even the scrim against SSG that ended tied i believe, all the games that Optic lost were very close and a couple should've been easy wins. Obviously on lan it's different and i'm really curious to see them against SSG, but as you just saw Lucid on lan, or should i say not on florida ping, he's insane lol
🔥🔥🔥
i like this chat way more than Twitch
did u announce in the thread? i dont see it
also i think u forgot to announce the details of match 2, which team got the first kill etc
No, didn't reply to thread
dang
I'm not an announcer, just trying lol
SSG vs SHopify rebellion Semifinals!
Round 2 of Oddball between Foe and Proton Gaming. 22-4, Foe in the lead currently.
new thread for announcements is up for the upcoming set
Will the final be played tonight?
(can u keep these in threads? i trying to keep the chat clean for people wanting to comment on it
CRAP
burned my legs
u click the thread and open as a channel
I was watching LVT's stream which is delayed
Yes, I'm there
and twitch.tv/halo for ssg vs shopify, match 1 is starting
I'm going to continue covering Foe vs Proton Gaming
I would rather not try to announce 2 games simultaneously...
No, Grand Finals are tomorrow
cant wait
Hopefully you applied cold water as soon as possible.
it wasnt too bad
Good to hear
it was just a shock
How many games are left for today?
didnt need water
i believe 3 or 4, unsure
ssg v shopify i believe is the last set, when match 5 of proton v foe ends
WHAT A CLOSE GAME FOR BOTH SETS!
oops caps
i was secretly rooting for Proton, im slightly disappointed in their elimination
hey @golden canopy , ssg won oddball with shopify only having 2 ponts left!
2 extra seconds of carrying would have won the game
going to have to rewatch that!
should be coming up on the other delayed stream in 30 seconds from now
Foe pulled off an epic comeback from being down 0-2 in the series against Proton Gaming, to winning the series 3-2 in a Game 5 Slayer in which they were down 36-30!
will rewatch the livestream tonight
ty
i needa take my noodles downstairs
the empty pot and fork anyways
almost missed shopify winning
Ah ok
Complex vs quadrant LB round 2
i'm not gonna lie i'm rooting for the upset here. I want another team to fight for top 3 beside Faze, Optic and SSG. hopefully Rebellion can be that team.
same
hoping ssg falls against Shopify rebellion, just so a new hand can touch the beacon
Foe keep coming back and winning series...I want to see how far they can go.
i gotta go for the rest of the night
it getting late
@golden canopy keep doing what you are doing, its great work
I know how to create threads, I'll provide what I can while I am still on
Complexity vs Quadrant Elimination
He sure played like it today
Optic Gaming look unbelievable right now
Foe vs Shopify Rebellion Series
I have a feeling Foe vs Shopify Rebellion is going to be a great series 😏
Foe are straight up clutch
Complexity vs FaZe Clan Series
Shopify Rebellion look to be that top 4 team people are wondering about
Haven’t been able to keep up with the tourney today…where is OpTic at in the bracket?
I believe they are facing ssg in the grand final
They beat faze 3-0 and it wasn’t really that competitive surprisingly
Sweet! Thank you!
Winners final
If they win that they're in the grand final
Sorry I misunderstood the bracket. They face ssg for winners final
Grand final is after
Hey could you help me understand why lower bracket only has a 2 team semifinal?
Doesn’t that make the lb finals kind of irrelevant
It’s two team semi final because the winner moves on to the losers final against the loser of the winners final.
Ah ok. Thank you
Optic cooked faze pretty much
Yea I gotta feeling it’s going to be Optic and SSG back in the Grand Finals. Faze looks a little off and Optic and SSG look really good.
What time does the HCS start at today?
Thank you
I’m feeling for Mikwen man. Really rooting for the guy to have some better placing this year.
There any drops for finals?
Yeah. Last set of drops is today
Usually they have like a special item as well that's only active for the finals match. Nothing like that today? Ideal if it's just the normal Sunday set not having to watch for the final.
I’m not sure about that
Saw that, so hope it's accurate. Every other HCS had something for the finals so wanted to make sure 👍
That triple kill charm is 🔥
Yea it’s accurate. I do believe they got rid of “the finals” and just made it for three hours for Sunday.
do they announce mvp at the beginning or end of the season
Foe placed top 6 correct?
yep!
FaZe Clan vs Shopify Rebellion Series
Shopify looking like a dark horse
what happened to faze today :(
When was the last 1-0 CTF AQUARIUS game? 😂
Spacestation Gaming vs Optic Gaming Series
Wow a tie in slayer
This final is nutty
wtf Formal
Formal just went nuts a second ago lol
I got money on a second tie
Curious, does a betrayal in hcs slayer minus a point from total count?
this series is crazy
No, it's not registered as a kill for the opposing team
Oh ok
I seen faze had a betrayal earlier, but didn’t check to see if that minuses from the point total
Kill is not subtracted from team with betrayal either.
Yeah it doesn't count
This is the best emote in this server:


WHAT A SERIES
That was intense. Ughhhh can’t believe optic lost it
Spacestation Gaming are some bad men...
Indeed
I was hoping optic would win so they got to the grand finals and I wanted to see ssg v faze
They can improve their teamwork I feel though
Now the only way we see SSG vs FaZe is if FaZe beats Optic to get to the Grand Finals...
That was some god tier Halo
And I suddenly don’t want to see ssg v faze lol
It’s can’t lose. Whoever faces ssg it’s gonna be some damn good halo
Literally every game today has been great I feel.
It's a whole level of gameplay higher than what we saw most of Friday and Saturday.
Then again, these were the top 4 teams.
Out of 8 teams there is always a marginal difference between the top and bottom 4
worlds apart for real
Optic Gaming and FaZe Clan have already won $30k whether they win or lose this series.
Optic Gaming vs FaZe Clan Series
The one reason I would have preferred ssg to lose and face faze is because optic decisively won against faze
We’re about to find out if that was a fluke
I don't see another 3-0 incoming.
Neither do I
FaZe is getting their rematch shot, so I expect them to go at it with a vengeance
Optic Gaming are undoubtedly pissed also, so I expect them go hard too.
Oh yeah. For these last 2 matches I’m expecting peak intensity
Optic Gaming looks like FaZe Clan's kryptonite so far.
If they lose 6-0 or 5-1 to optic. I’m just gonna go ahead and say they wouldn’t have beat ssg

FaZe Clan has some game footage to watch to see how Optic Gaming is absolutely shutting them down.
They’ll be doing nothing but studying that for months
I'm willing to bet Optic Gaming studied FaZe Clan's play style over the off-season and focused on countering it.
They've showed that they always have an answer at this point.
Damn, I bet on faze clan. Now im loosing my home 😭
Hoping you're not serious because that would be tragic.
Definitely
Only fitting that it is ssg v optic. Their first series was tightly contested every match and even had a tie
This is gonna be crazy
A historic Slayer tie nonetheless
Spacestation Gaming vs Opting Gaming Grand Final Series
Halo Infinite has really globalized Competitive Halo. Legend is the first non-NA player to ever place top 2.
Have grand finals drop started for anyone else?
Mine haven’t started either?
are there any champs twitch drops or no
There is supposed to be a coating for Mark VII
Is there grand finals drops? All I'm seeing is the ones for the nocturne and astral drift coatings, which i already have
Oh nevermind it clamied early for me
The drops today is for Sunday, not for just the Grand Finals.
The anticipation between game 1 and game 2 is killer
40,000+ watching on the official Halo twitch channel for this Grand Final
Not bad!
what a shot from formal
Is pit 3 or 5 cap?
What a game
this SSG - Optic series is ridiculously even and at such a high level, i couldn't stop smiling
also it's already past midnight here, i guess i won't sleep much tonight if it keeps going like this 😆
There’s no drops for the grand finals, right?
This a gg
People are saying it's just a Sunday drop
the real winners are us for getting such an amazing finale series
So the Mark IV & VII armor coating isn’t getting released?
Oh $nap, I already have it. SMH
Solitude strongholds needs removing
That's called map control my friend
I’m not feeling good about optic winning a slayer match against ssg
No it's not
You should not be able to spawn trap people
It's not COD
Spawn trapping is a possibility in any arena game
Or any game whether it’s arena or not
You must not watch or play Halo
Ok then
There's no "Finals special drop" this time around right? I got everything listed so far and I wanna make sure Im not missing nothing.
I don’t believe so
Damn
Gg to ssg
Let’s go SSG
Was hoping for another round of 7. But ssg with that reverse sweep
Unbelievable fumble by optic
It's almost like Optic run out of gas
similar to what happened last year in WC grand finals
Im down for some sweet SSG support!
congrats to SSG! It was an amazing event
I was always praying to Saint StelluR throughout the match
I have that same postcard!
Now I'll wear the SSG hoodie I brought back from worlds
And with pride
Like contact sports fans
SSG stays winnin
Stellur should get mvp. From the beginning of the bracket to the end, he was a problem for everyone
Stellur was indeed stellar for SpaceStation with snipe shots...on Optic's side, Formal made some amazing snipe shots as well 
HCSProTalk on twitch is breaking down today's games if anybody is interested
Definitely will be tuning in. Have to go take a walk and get some fresh air after that optic loss lol
Except for when Optic swept Faze, two series in a row
I was referencing Sunday's games. The first Optic Series against Faze was on Saturday. I also made this comment before Optic's series against Faze today, Sunday.
By the way, do you like Mozart's piano sonatas? I ask because of your username.
yes, and I share Mozart's b-day
Great to hear and what a coincidence! I am currently studying Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 16 in C Major, K. 545 
@somber swift Way too early questions about next event. How is pool play earned for next event? Same as this one?
And follow up question about current points now after this weekend. 😂
Not quite
Top 6 from this event get pools for next event already
There will be a qualifier tournament for the remaining seeds, similar to what we had for this
Who was top 6?
SSG optic faze complexity Foe Shopify I think?
Yeah
For the qualifiers:
I imagine top 2 from EU, (Foe already got in, so 2 more)
And top 4 more from NA,
and then 4 from open bracket at next LAN
Not confirmed that though
Have the points done yet?
Not sure
Found them, nope they haven't
Google sheet link in tweet
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1760474074676101202?t=sxJsncBz1x7URbhV5raZyA&s=19
HCS Leaderboards ahead of this weekend's #HCSArlington24 Major Qualifiers! 🏆
Player Leaderboards: https://t.co/M2jalor1he
Do you think it’s 4 and 2 from the qualifier so no on getting in based off of points?
Nah, I really just meant 4 from NA overall
Probably top 2 from qualifier and 2 more on points
And EU top 1 from qualifier and one more on points
That’s fair.
I wonder how Sentinels looks right now points wise. This set them back pretty far or no?
Probably, yeah
They went out top 16 here, so not great
They were 4th before
5 NA teams beat them this weekend
In terms of pool secured
3 were already ahead, and the other 2 were 5/6 behind them already
They might still be top 10
That’s fair.
I’m thinking the non qualified NA teams are Sentinels, N8V, Ascending Baseline, Bittersweet, Darkest Hour, C9, Business, and anyone else?
What happened to Tenrai again ?
That was darkest hour I think
I think you got them all
I expect a few roster changes in here
Did Montscr win any matches?
What a series and congrats to Legend!
Hopefully druk drama is settled soon
Must feel good to hold that trophy in a NA tournament
Lol
Up next, an international team winning worlds. Now THAT will be huge
Yellow bois
"First internationnal" "First european" player to win a Major in Halo. But of course no « first french », let's just put french flag, but invisibilise his country, again.
GG to Lqgend and SSG at a whole for winning
Huh
Legend is French and Lematth is French. He wants them to stop calling Legend European or international and call him French.
Honestly in Halo it is too specific. I used to be a big SC2 fan. All the best players in the world are Korean. Everyone was else was literally called a “foreigner” and it’s the same there. First foreigner to win a GSL match or whatever. That’s how it is when a certain area dominates a game for over two decades @quiet prairie
I mean we can say he's european. Its a fact. Just adding that he is french is important too. If he was German, English or another it would be the same.
its not the same, koreans dominate every game they wanna play. Console games are the only thing players from NA are even competitive
I think I know what you mean
In general terms though if a user who went from one region to another, as in this example, Europe to the USA, its not incorrect to label him as an international player as he originally came from another national region.
It's just how labels work on a competitive basis when you have what is aptly called 'International talent' as HCS is, in general a North American exclusive series. Outside of World's yeah its fairly accurate to use the terminology present within HCS here.
If there was another series that was exclusively inter-European you could afford to say 'x team has picked up amazing talent from Z country, and is a widely recognised x country player'
We can always afford it
Its just NA being centric and not acknowledging Europe diversity
I think it's a bit old school to say European talent, but ultimately its still a correct statement. If a player came from NA or LATAM region I'd still refer to them as American talent because fundamentally they're from the American continent
Never said it was incorrect
And i wouldn't say a Mexican, in this context is "American"
I don't even know if in English there is terme for "Etatsunien"
I vaguely remember a few things when I took French class, but isn't that simply just the way of saying American or Americans?
Been a long while wince I studied the language or even the grammar structure so I might not be correct here
its just inhabitants of the United States
"American" is referring to everyone on the continent (but is wastly used for US-inhabitants too, wich can be confusing just like in English)
Hm
When I was learning the language we were told two ways of trying to identify someone. One was simply to say 'person of x country' so 'personne des x' and then just saying something more blunt, such as (in my case) 'irlandais' to identify someone as irish.
yes
I think you’re getting too caught up in this and blaming America for calling him European when in reality, it’s an esports thing. Calling him European is much better than calling him “foreigner” like in SC2.
what ? Never said to not call him European and clearly not foreigner...
Tbf in Starcrafts circuts it's not a wrong thing to phrase it like that. It might appear blunt to us but it's simply saying 'Hey this person is outside Korean talent'
Oh I 100% agree. I think HCS calling him European is more respectful than in GSL.
This is what I’m referring to. You sound mad about it and you shouldn’t be.
I do digress though, I think in international circles I think it's perfectly fine to refer to international talent by region. At that point the scale is so high things like national identity pale in comparison, whereas if you had a more local regional league it would make fine sense to refer to someone as French talent / English/ German etc.
I am not "mad", I'm frustrated. And i'm in the right.
And tbf HCS has shown a lot of grace in terms of courtesy here. I remember commentators saying how insane it was that Lqend basically had to uproot his life from France tp compete in HCS.
It wasn't just 'oh he needed to come here form europe' they specified exactly where he was from
Yes, its been clearly better then 2 years ago. Where some casters didn't even made their lesson before commenting HCS open series and telling "I don't know him" to top 16 european players with constant record
I mean that's how it starts off for a lot of now ferociously known players. You start off as a nobody but time after time your name keeps showing up again and again, then people start noticing
They were not nobodies as they were consistant players from Halo 5
I'll admit my interest in Halo waned during the lifespan of H5 so I can't make the statement for accuracy there, I'm just saying that's a possible route of acknowledgement
I'm sure if lqennd wants to be recognised specifically for being from France, he'll pose it that way. But for now the guys basking in a very well deserved victory
Contracts and US influence are too strong. Did you see any other interviewee in non-english ? I did not
Look at their social medial: almost all english
In all fairness HCS and halo in general has by far been a largely American centric series. I'd expect the dominant language there to be English speaking based.
Of course its American centric. I want to decentralize it too, for the better.
If HCS took off in Germany or France to the level it does in America I'd absolutely expect there to be a more decentralised approach
But it's also on the onus of those countries to support that endeavour as well. If HCS takes off in Germany and the social and business cultures don't foster it, it will fall on its face
Its a Microsoft and 343 stance. It's been like that since the crash of H5. The period of grace between 2012 and 2016 is over.
I mean did business ventures get burned during that period?
I'm asking since I literally don't know here
what are you talking about ?
You said the crash of H5. Was there more international collaboration with Microsoft and 343 on halo professional series and did it end up not working out, or has it been American centric from the start?
Well between 2012 et 2016, 343 adopted a more worldwide stance. Links between communities, Grassroots from all over the world, good localisation of games, and translation of books. Acknowledgement of non-US communities (Halo Crea, Halo . fr, etc..) , invitiation to launch. And of course regional esport and big LAN in the world (2016 World Championship in Asia, Europe, Oceania and Latin America)
There was 2 Major in 2018 in London and 1 in Sydney too. But Halo 5 was in a bad place at the time, just like the community at large. 343 at already withdraw from the international communities
HCS is now in Year 3 and not much has changed at all.
In wrestling terms, HCS is like Undertaker and Stone Cold at the top and the rest of the roster is kane, xpac and billy gun. What is missing Cena, Rock and Goldberg to keep it varied and actually interesting.
Optic is too OP and no one can take em out early on.
Yeah, its not entirelly true. Optic has not been first since Fort Worth and was 5-6th in Arlington last year.
And teams after top 4 changed a lot...
faze winning in wrestling terms is like miz beating cena at wrestlemania, yes it's a good feat but they got lucky.
SSG is good and the only top dog. The rest of the roster are mid card will never 3-0 Optic and take em out.
In R6, you never see the same teams at the top over and over. It's nearly always a new team, the talent is so varied and equal, it's less predictable.
because R6 have more new blood coming all the time
Good point.
Faze is still very scary to every team
- importantly, no player from any other country in Europe has won anything. If they were to simply announce "first French player to win a Major" it doesn't actually provide as much information. If other European players had won a Major before, then maybe it would make sense to define legend by country first.
Legend has done something so incredible that not only has no one in France done it before, no one in Europe has!
He has trailblazed for an entire continent,and I think most people would say that's a bit more epic than trailblazing for just one country.
- references to French language / France / the French flag have all been present in many comments/ announcements, such as this:
https://twitter.com/SherzyOne/status/1769517620296851542?t=T5xRlTQkIjjEs1YU7G7Y9w&s=19
yo
Hi
To be honest, legend is the first non north american to win, and The Narrative announced him simply as the first International player to win.
Didn't even specify European.
And to that point, it shows something even more incredible that no one anywhere outside of Canada/US has won.
Legend doesn't just represent France and Europe, but the entire rest of the world!
That's amazing
It's something to embrace and be proud of
1)Understantable, but refering to his nationality in words (and not just a flag) is better
2) Yes, not the best exemple as SherzyOne is Irish
Listen to his interview, his comment to everyone around the world.
He didn't do it for France, he did it for himself, and everiin the world.
https://twitter.com/TheNarrativeOB/status/1769535176164413447?t=Mc6gCvJ1uMBp-F93UIEYDA&s=19
Making this moment "about France" missed the whole point, misses the great achievement and importance, and actually feels a bit selfish.
Did a Canadian ever won a Major/A-Tier LAN ?
Royal 2
So international means not-North American, got it
Then i'm missing the whole point. And i'm proud to miss it. I do'nt understand it like that. Its still to invisibilise Europea diversity. (Where is Wutum nationality ?)
Wutum's heritage was discussed on the broadcast many times
That's disappointing
"heritage "
Yellow bois, pretty new to the Halo discord,
I know he is Finnish.
It seems like you've got a chip on your shoulder about this, I don't understand why.
This isn't about you and me, it's an amazing moment for international Halo players in general
Why the word "heritage" doesn't he is Finnish ? No descendant from Finnish.
You don't understand why just like everytime we talk about being European. You don't seems to understand we are treated like second base players/fans
"treated like second base players/fans"
I fully understand that.
I just firmly believe that celebrating the accomplishment of legend in the way that it is being celebrated is completely separate from that.
"heritage" is a general word that I used to say "where someone is from"
I used it very generally and loosely
yes, you use it very very loosely then...https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/heritage
I'm not getting into a semantics argument with you - it's so far removed from the topic
And its not.
HCS, Halo, LVT, The Narrative - everyone making announcements about this is actually sharing with the whole audience just how incredibly significant Legend's achievement is.
It's bigger than 1 country.
It's bigger than 1 continent or even region.
It's truly an International accomplishment.
For the posts to acknowledge this incredible accomplishment is amazing.
Legend might be proud of his country, but he knows this is bigger than France.
His interview says as much. He is a pioneer for ALL regions outside of 'North America', and that's AMAZING!
lematth mate you're just mad for the sake of being mad
Trying to boil this down to one specific country, asking for recognition for that particular country, in my opinion, actually reduces the significance of this achievement.
And remember, it's not as if there is ZERO mention or reference to France, either!
We got a bigger problem on our hands bois
what do you like about Halo?
The m&k players are coming
WuTun my goat
But i don't really care about "international" its Europe and France, that I care....
are you french mate?
Always has been 😈
I appreciate your passion for Halo, and European Halo, but you did just admit right here that you are being selfish.
I can understand that, even if I don't agree with it.
I still respect you 🙂
I can understand your emotions
But I try to be objective about these things
Thank You.
Keep up the good work
See everyone?
We can disagree nicely!
My first game was Halo 4, and as I entered the menu, the music hit me like a truck. I love the campaigns of all Halos(excluding Halo 5), and the multiplayer as well. In my opinion, no Halo game is actually that bad, compared to other games in the genre, Halo is top tier quality.
That's awesome to hear.
I hope you explore this discord server!
have you ever watched competitive Halo?
Not really, though, they are really cool
well, this channel specifically is for discussing competitive Halo.
Try looking around a few other places too!
fyi, it's pinned in this channel
Next stop for HCS is the 21st of April
Any big side tournament before that ?
Coming back to this with more thoughts/detail.
Top 6 from Arlington get those seeds into London.
- SSG
- Optic
- Faze
- Shopify
5/6) Complexity and Foe (Probably seeded by points?)
This leaves 6 more spots to fill, as 4 will come form the Open Bracket
NA and EU will have Online Qualifiers.
I imagine 4 total places will go to NA teams, and 2 more to EU.
For the Qualifiers, I expect top 2 teams in NA to get pool spots, and then the next 2 highest in HCS points.
(Or maybe they do top 3 from Quals + one on points)
Then it'll just be winner of EU qualifier, and then the next top EU team in points.
Finally, the NEXT top 1 NA team, and EU team will also get Open Bracket Travel Coverage, and the winner of the Open Champs for each of ANZ and MX will also get Open Travel Coverage.
How do I think these will all turn out?
...
Assuming no teams make changes to rosters (they will, but assumer they don't)
Foe is already in for EU, so that leaves Quadrant to likely win the next EU Qualifier, and more than likely MagsUp being the runner up in HCS points - both getting into pools.
The EU team that might win the Open bracket travel coverage based on next in points is still up in the air.
Depends how the teams do, as several are close together.
Could be Mama Mia or Anita Max Wynn (or someone else maybe if they do well in the 3 onlines).
...
MX and ANZ:
Lore did amazing for MX, making it into Pools this tournament, but failing to secure top 6.
They are still the best MX team in my opinion, and likely will win their Open Championship to have travel coverage to London.
I hope a couple of the other teams fly over too.
T1/Fury seemed unprepared to me. They aren't a sure thing to win their next Open Championship for travel to London. Mindfreak might beat them.
MagsUp=Mama Mia
I thought MagsUp was Jumpout Gang?
Right, they had the same amount of point. Confusing me
Close in points, but now Jumpout will have more for having been in this tournament
I still think MagUps/Jumpout 'wins' on points to get into pools for London.
Ho boy i forgot the Gamer Assembly the 30th !
https://ga2024.gamers-assembly.net/tournois/halo-infinite-gamers-assembly-festival-edition-2024
For NA, there's 4 teams to still earn pools, I think.
Likely:
Proton
Business
Cloud 9
and this last one is tough but I think it will be Native
Then the one NA team to earn Open travel to london I think will be Darkest Hour
This is all assuming no roster changes.
I don't think Ascending Baseline will make it back in - unless Monstcr ACTUALLY starts cheating and places crazy high online, lol.
I also don't think Bittersweet pulls off the points needed.
Foe earning top 6 kinda pushed Bittersweet out of the picutre, IMO.
Nice!
I wonder if any mid-high level EU teams will show up as a warm up for London?
@noble field see above for my more indepth analysis!
then in May we have: https://twitter.com/Icychiller54/status/1763730981029052683
still 6 spots left. And I hope so. Even if its demanding (travel, 3 days, must bring all materiel including screen)
already one AM team signed up for the Orlando one
anyone notable signed up yet?
Katrina FR and BH3 Esport
that's decent
who's on BH3?
I don't have them on my points tracking sheet - did they change names?
For the time being the composition of the team if of Momo and Knuqkles
Cali and BastosS are in Katrina Fr
so lots of changes going on
Maybe just forming a team for LAN. BH3 is a flexible organisation from what I understand. Player are still listed as BH3 but sometimes doesn't play under that name or go to other small org/team
they didn't play as BH3 in the Qualifier, it seems
Missing Sentinels.
Sentinels will get a pool spot one way or another.
I kinda wanna do the points myself
Lol I assumed you would.
I mean anything can happen online and they choke, but even then, I would imagine they get the points spot.
you're probably right
I wonder how the qualifier will work then?
like will the top 5 NA teams not be allowed to compete?
I can't imagine that's necessarily true, as points matter to some degree
any one want play rank
oh thank
I am going to do them assuming Business puts Druk on their team again.
This is what I get
7-10 all very close
Business won't get to London unless they can place top 2 in the qualifier.
It unlikely they can make up enough points, assuming at least a few of the teams above them continue to perform well.
crazy how missing the first tournament for Druk can change the whole season.
Maybe they decide not to team with him again
same thing, but if business keeps Ave
There will be some opens I believe for points before the qualifer. Need to outperform some teams beforehand.
yeah, 3 opens, and then the qualifier
Or as always, pick up Monster.
these 8 teams essentially competing for 4 pool play spots, plus 1 travel spot
I wouldn't be surprised to see up to four of these teams make at least 1 roster move.
Ok so i know why OpTic didn't win
/ why Lucid and Formal didn't have some stand out games
Basically Lucid , trippey and Formal are used to having to carry their team and not being able to rely on APG
However now they have someone they can rely on so now they need to get used to that and Lucid, Trippey and Formal need to be able to play OBJ a bit more
However though Strongholds solitude still needs removing
You think the all the usual teams are going to attend this, like shopify, FaZe, SSG , OpTic, etc?
Honestly, I think there's a chance that 1/3 of the top teams go, but the other 2 not.
I could see Shopify going, they're improving a lot and could see it as good practice
same with Complexity
I don't see Sen going
OpTic may go since Lucid lives in Orlando
I would more expect SSG
I don't see FaZe going
I think Optic and Faze have too much 'pride' to attend tournaments that aren't HCS
(misplaced pride)
The only reason OpTic may go is due to it is where Lucid lives
that was nuts
you might be right!
https://twitter.com/HaloDataHive/status/1769461178067980787
This was interesting
I don't think we need a map where it's so easy for you to get spawn trapped
I think we might see something change between now and London
from HCS - they might pull it
Add in Bazzar
I doubt it
I mean if enough pro players complain, they will do it
Whats a new map thats comp worthy?
although I could maybe see catalyst coming back
perhaps one that is cooking.
But it would need to be ready and in rotation before the Opens, I think.
Which is unlikely
who knows, maybe they go wild and add Illusion (not likely)
I don't think they will add anything else before Major 2
You are probably correct.
We have the ranked update this week, with the new networking model and weapon tunings.
I assume they'll fix red rack equipment before London.
And they might remove Solitude.
Otherwise I don't expect any changes.
They need another multi-use map again like Live-fire
Thats Slayer, KOTH , Strongholds and Oddball
totally
Recharge is pretty good, too
oddball, koth, SH - does it also have slayer?
Yep
ah
Streets isn't bad either
they could probably bring back King on streets
Honestly, they could also bring back SH there too and replace solitude
I wouldn't mind that
I don't know why they removed it tbh
Maybe it was just to make room for Solitude
perhaps they didn't want too many options in rotation
This might be the best Halo clip I've ever seen (audio warning):
https://twitter.com/LVTHalo/status/1769445751782817965
I have enjoyed forbidden CTF
I could see Swish getting into one of these top teams
maybe even Hative.
I don't think Cratos' team is sticking together
I also doubt Monstcr's team will stick together
Still thinking about yesterday. I can't speak for other games but for Infinite, i think that was the best lan event we had so far. We witnessed history
only sad thing is i really wanted the bracket reset in the grand finals lol. I didn't want that series to end
it was close!
I'm re-reading this.
Man, that's a LONG time, over a month away.
From Legend being the first european player to win a major, technically it was the first major for Bound too. The 50-50 slayer in winners final, then the double ot in Pit ctf, Formal and Lucid dropping 40 and 50+ kills, then SSG winning the plaza strongholds 250 to 3, it was a wild series and a wild tournament really. Didn't expect Sentinels to perform so poorly, Faze losing 6 game in row to Optic in that fashion and it's only the first tournament of the year lol
also i was rooting for Shopify Rebellion to make it into the top 3, instead once again it was Faze, Optic and SSG.
you summed up some of the major stuff nicely!
and i forgot WuTum first mnk player to make it to top 6, honestly i think Foe deserve to be backed by an organization at this point
100%, they've deserved it for awhile
Lots of people trying to convince Str8 Rippin to sign them, but I don't think he's going to grab an EU team.
I could see Str8 going after the Proton roster, or Business
I get the impression that T2 might be biased to stay NA, even though not really any top NA teams unsigned
@quiet prairie the points gap in EU is widening
more, with people on teams as of the Qualifier - I know many might change
Gonna be hard for anyone to catch MagsUp
Yeah, I don't see anyone beating MagsUp for points, or Quadrant for the Qualifier W.
So some of these EU teams are going to need to make their way to London on their own $ and earn some real LAN points to catch up at all.
MX is interesting, not 100% sure on the points distribution from the open bracket, but this has got to be close:
I didn't bother with ANZ, as it's pretty cut and dry there for points.
who am I kidding, I'll probably do it.
The falloff of respectful and kimbo needs to be clinically studied
And the falloff of atzo
Who am I kidding the falloff of pelugod magico and guardian too
Respectful - EU Valencia champ with acend
Kimbq - T8 at Raleigh with NAVI
Now on remarkably irrelevant teams
these guys did OK.
I think Atzo has struggled to grab a solid squad
EU Valencia was a strange time, haha.
and I think Kimbo is still doin OK - but he's not in top form anymore.
true, but still, second place at MX City to not even making it out of the open bracket
he placed with lg last year, but luminosity last year had the visa issue stuff with mqgico and so he was never really supposed to be there I think
I wake up extra early to be a hater lmao
2nd place at mx city being an MX only event though.
they placed 7/8 in Arlington Open, which is pretty decent!
https://www.start.gg/tournament/hcs-major-arlington-2024-hosted-by-optic-gaming/event/hcs-major-arlington-2024-4v4/standings
Who is that?
top amateur player from NA seemingly moving to europe
I think he recently graduated in some military stuff, and is probably getting deployed over there
he hasn't played in year 3 yet, but did in years 1+2
I'd say he's good enough to shake into the top 8 EU teams, maybe top 6
Out of interest... After watching a couple of these events... are the only people that attend friends and family of the players. Nobody was watching the final last night... just curious?
halo isn't very popular nowadays
It's doesn't seem viable to hold lan events.
Over 40 thousand viewers on just the main channel. That isn’t counting all the other ones
Safe to say it had at least 50 thousand viewers
That's not bad... but none of them bought a ticket.
Tickets were sold out
Were they actually though. I don't mean to be critical I just saw a lot of empty seats.
They were. I’m sure some left when their team was out or if they had to leave for one reason or another
I would like to see the teams build bigger and better communities.
What do you mean nobody was watching?
Obviously people were watching but there wasn't many in the arena.
I thought it was neat that there were Shopify chants in the building randomly
And cheering for WuTum
But a lot of the loewr teams like bittersweet and ascending have no following
There was that EU team FOE.. where did that name come from... did I miss something? I get its like an open bracket and all? But you'd think there would be more structure to a certain degree.
I think you should judge by asking someone who was there
They didn't have an org, so they made up a name.
Foe, not sure on the name, but they are formerly Navi.
The structure is definitely there
If you have any questions I'm happy to help explain or point you in the right direction!
Was the team formerly navi... or just the players?
The players were formerly on NAVI's halo team, then were dropped by the NAVI org. The players stuck together and compete under the name Foe
Uh, the roster I guess?
Navi as an org dropped their team
And players kept playing.
Did navi pull out of halo,, a shame if they did?
APJ got it
Yes
I think my point is if you look at any sport the individual performers doesn't make the sport popular ots the teams that are built.
I'm guessing I'm saying if there were more established teams in halo who formed better communities the game would be more popular. Too many teams like Foe and it faults growth.
Don't get me wrong I enjoy watching.
my gamemode idea is sick guys
I fully agree that more orgs should be investing smartly in Halo.
Not enough do it in the right way though
no seriously its harpoon slayer ffa
Yep invest in the fans and they will only grow.
Does the grapple hook have insta kill? Or would you have to melee to finish them off?
Go make it!
yeah melee damage scalar 200%
distance is 10% so you cant kill anyway other than harpoon
i already did, nobody joins becuase theres so many other custom games
I would just make another foe... the big boys need to do it... they have the power.
?afk food time
You dont know how to play Halo
This has been a thing since Halo CE. It should continue being a thing. SSG Just played a perfect game. They were better. Every team is capable of employing the same strategy.
Individual players 100% make the sport. People pay huge money to see LeBron and Steph, not the local Junior College players.
The NFL had a strike a couple decades ago and had replacement players come in and it was terrible. No one watched.
^
Yeah, I was there with a group of friends. Saturday was completely packed.
We all had to leave Sunday due to work on Monday with flights & drives back.
Sunday typically is jam packed as all the side station tournaments are done and all eyes are on the championship
wow this chats kinda dead
thats ok
anyways so i have this super good idea for a gamemmode
this channel is for discussing the halo championship series, if you have ideas for gamemodes that's better suited for a channel like #1076337363770417172 or #halo-discussion
Oh ok
Unless it is a competitive game mode for HCS. Eh?
i didn know what hcs stood fro when i said that
i now understand
Ah then odd choice to start chatting here but it is for Halo Championship Series. All things competitive Halo.
Just a heads-up, most channels in this server also have a description for them beyond just their title!
ohhh oh my gosh i complety forgot, thanks bro lol
Year 2 coatings are all gone from the store on Waypoint now
You're right individuals make the game more exciting. If it wasn't for the skill of the top players People wouldn't watch at all... but I'm on about growth of the sport from the bottom up to make more established teams and a larger fan base.
Although @rigid tangle says it was packed on the Saturday so maybe I have a misconception.
I think there's a lot more going on under the hood which regular casuals like myself don't see from online... which is why I was asking in the first place.
It will be interesting to see how HCS evolves over the next few years.
Only a few organizations have really been successful in creating that fan culture that sticks with the team, in the modern Halo era.
I would argue it's really just Optic and SSG.
To a smaller degree Faze, Quadrant, Native, Complexity and Shopify. These teams tend to have some fans that stick around no matter the players.
Sentinels has fans of the org, but not the Halo team.
The Sen Halo fans are fans of those players in particular.
Same for C9.
Str8 Rippin thinking about fielding a team is good news.
I also wouldn't expect a TON of evolution to HCS of the next few years.
I would expect a shift to things being less grandiose in 2025 and beyond, until the next Halo title.
I think it will lead HCS/343 having less influence opening the gate for some association to take the reigns. After all this season we are already seeing the orgs taking on the role of the hosts for each tournament.
Maybe in the next Halo a new MLG will be born with Competitive Halo. I think we need to look at what the current communities are doing to predict the future.
Interesting to see.
HCS has run 'well' for H5 and Infinite.
In fact, across the industry, a lot of people that run tournaments and leagues have praised HCS for how it's done it's Infinite program.
I imagine 343 sees that value and would want to continue into the next game.
But we'll have to see what the global esports scene is doing at that time.
more international stuff
HCS has done well, but they could be doing more internationally (I've ranted about this before)
Bring back the regional HCS bundles that they sold during season 1 with good skins
yeah.
We had regional tournaments AND regional Bundles to support them.
We also had crowdfunding.
Year 1 was kinda beautiful
true
I wonder if the new update fixed observer mode at all. That'd be neat
For halo in general but specifically hcs
this is in the patch notes
That's actually pretty neat
Ever notice during the broadcasts when 2 players names are highlighted at once?
could be misleading
this seems to address that
So the fact that pros are complaining proves i am right
Damm i actually watch and play the game unlike you
Good more community maps, hopefully they are not broken
Sure buddy
Also when did i ask
"I am Onyx 118277, my opinion is the best"
Okay buddy
ok bros
You should just not be able to win the map instantly
Are you talking about Solitude, or just in general?
Solitude
OK, well that's important to mention.
You should not be able to get a Trip cap and Power weapons and be set for the entire game
Because I think most people, even Confess, would agree that Solitude doesn't play well with the spawn control that is possible.
But spawn control is 100% part of Halo - it just shouldn't be the dominant factor
the argument between you guys started here, possibly because this statement wasn't specific enough.
Spawn trapping should be the goal of any team, and should be POSSIBLE.
It shouldn't be inevitable as it seems like Solitude it is.
You should be able to get out of a Spawn trap though
In Solitudes you rarely
can
the big issue with Plaza/Solitude SH is that the points are in such an area where the powerups also are - so if one team can gain control of the trip cap, and the right positioning, they can end up keeping all the goodies out of the other team's hands.
And the trapped team can't just 'wait' as the points are going up FAST.
Slayer it's not as bad.
Maybe if they moved the sniper to spawn over in the trapped area away from C or something, I dunno
KOTH is fine, maybe i would remove the Hill in Hotel
But apart from that it's fine
I mean there isn't a Sniper, there a Shock Rifle.
Which is arguably stronger
It's not really spawn trapping per se, spawn splitting and using a numbers advantage and making it so they can't so anything. Solitude sucks but you can do the same thing on any map. Solitude is harder to get out of.
Why hotel and not Yard? I feel like yard is the most bs hill in existence next to elevator from recharge.
His opinion is literally worth more. Im also Onyx 1900 and I think it is fine.
Just have to slay better. Optic already released a statrment saying that it was winnable they just need to get better at slaying.
3 of 200+ pros complain so that means that "The pros are complaining?"
I think the idea that a higher rank has a more valid argument is ridiculous and I can’t comprehend that you’d actually believe that.
With that said I think Saber is wrong but the idea that the proof he is wrong is based on rank is sad.
High ranking players have more say in RANKED play. Its a competitive environment. We are talking about a RANKED map.
So yes, the people that devote more time and play at a higher level do in fact dictate how things work in the environment tailored for them.
Halo Esports and ranked has always been tailored towards the top 1% of players since HCS's inception. Not quite sure how this is a sad concept. The fact of the matter is that if you don't like the environment that pros like you probably should go play socials. Thats what they are for.
Tiberius Audley is a D3 and he gets paid by N8V as an analyst for their team. Are you saying your opinion is better than his on competitive Halo because you’re a higher rank? @somber swift is a P3 right now and he contributes more to competitive Halo than anyone on this Discord. Are you saying he is a social kid because he is not 1900 Onyx like you? His opinion isn’t valid?
Like I said, I agree with you and Confess. I’m on your side. Just your idea of why Saber is wrong is something a child would say.
He's not playing the game at the level that is required to really feel the game. His opinion is valid. But not to the extent as the people who are hands on at that level.
His job is pointless without the pro scene. While the pros would still exist and sway the games balance without him.
Big respect to the people who compile the data and do the desk work. Definetly a massive net positive. But If the pros aren't happy with how the game feels; mechanics and balance. Then there is no HCS. Example, Halo 4.
You’re off your rocker man. I’ll agree to disagree and move on.
I thought we were reaching a realistic conclusion. But if that's how its gotta be then that's how it has to be.
And we are all a little crazy. Gotta be to love this game.
Josh from HCS pro talk would have a field day with parts of this conversation
Rank, in Halo or any game/sport, is just the representation of a person's ability to manifest their knowledge into skill.
In order to be in the highest of ranks, you do need a lot of knowledge.
The opposite is not necessarily true.
High level of skill is NOT required to have a high level of knowledge.
Just look at many many coaches in all the established sports in the world.
Most of them have way more knowledge than the pro players they are coaching, yet likely couldn't perform at the level of those players.
And that's not JUST due to age
Less of the lack of knowledge and more so just the inability to describe and teach. They obviously have the knowledge if they are performing at a high level.
I'm not sure if you understood my message
Maybe not. I'm driving at the moment. I'll look deeper when I get home.
I don’t think he is understanding any of this. 😂
Basically it's this:
Knowledge doesn't require rank.
Knowledge doesn't automatically yield rank.
Knowledge + Skill can yield rank.
The absence of rank does not mean the absence of knowledge
The biggest thing needed for an conversation on whether something is bad, is supporting evidence.
I don't care what rank you are, if you can't give solid evidence... then your argument is invalid.
To further support Ashaman. There are 2 cups that need filled in order to rank up.
Mental
And
Mechanical
Some people are mentally inclined in halo...
Others are mechanically.
I've seen people in high onyx who make a lot of mistakes. That you'd say only happens in plat and I've seen people in plat make really good plays.
Tiberius Audley is an amazing example of Mental vs Mechanical.
Cratos is an example of good mechanical skills but poor mental.
Great points
Hey! How was the HCS Arlington? Attended in person or watched online?
Let me know what went well and opportunities that we can look into for the next one. Thanks!
I was able to watch some of it online.
-Granting access to LVT again to run their thing was great. I'd love to see them get a little more support on the full production capabilities.
Things like being able to have better observer status in matches in Open Bracket or the Side tournaments.
Being able to actually broadcast the qualifying matches for Pools LIVE (rather than replay) would be AWESOME.
Also, while showing the side tournaments live online might be tough - perhaps some of the 'we'll be right back' time in the main broadcast could actually be used to replay some of the Champs of those side tournaments.
-Having all Pool Play matches broadcasted was really good.
This wasn't the case for ALL of last year (but it was for some) so I'm happy to see it continued happening this year.
-Start.gg seemed like a GREAT platform to follow the Open Bracket from home. It seemed like it was actually being updated regularly and timely.
-The broadcast Talent did a phenomenal job. 10/10 would recommend having them all back again.
-If there's a lot of great community stuff going on in the crowd, showcase that more on the broadcast.
Have some cameras going around the venue, do more 'side' interviews.
Showcase just a bit more of a 'taste' of what it's like to be AT the event - enhances the broadcast, and might convince even more people to buy tickets to the next one!.
-I enjoyed some of the featured videos, replays and other stuff being played between matches, but boy do I miss the SSG content.
More of that from last year if possible!
I would love to be able to hear the crowd more clearly because that adds so much to the hype factor of the broadcast, and during Arlington it was kinda toned down/muffled. Agree with Ashaman on everything else, having real open bracket coverage would be sweet.
I unofficially updated the NA points based on the released totals per player on the Google sheets (HCS messed up Manny's points though)
Waiting for more EU teams to solidify, or update, but here's that region for now:
rosters might also be changing
LANs should have all new drops, i agree
did johaan get dropped?
I pinged again 💀
no worries
which team was he on?
i probably got something wrong
Johaan was on the LATAM teams but I didn't see him playing last event.
he was in the open, I just had the roster wrong, apparently
here's MX
thx for the prompt @tall mural
Which ones do you think were repeated?
Don't disagree with this. All I'm saying is that pro players weighing in on the balance is more important than randoms due to them being who the ranked mod is designed for.
The passive aggressive immaturity is thick.
I honestly think we agree overall.
Probably just the logic that we use to obtain our conclusion is different.
The vehicle coatings and grav hammer things.
I think it was from Monster promotion?
Would be great to save those things for grassroots
HCS is designed for Pros
Ranked is designed for everyone in the playlist, from Onyx 2200 down to bronze.
I would think that there are a significantly larger amount of Gold-Diamond players than there are Onyx.
Everyone's voice matters in that playlist
I also think we are closer to agreeing overall
Personally I think 343 has shown in the past that everybody's voice does not matter. That's not a dig its just the way life is...
When Covid hit governments took the voice of professionals. This is just common practice.
I have a question... 343 created this framework for grassroots etc... is there any scope for tournaments where professionals aren't allowed. Or does anybody know of any where lowly plat and diamond players can compete?
Nice!
🚀 @HCS 2024 Arlington Major reaches a peak 109,670 Viewers!
Top Matches:
1️⃣ @OpTic vs @Spacestation
2️⃣ @FaZeClan vs @Spacestation
3️⃣ @OpTic vs @Spacestation
All about the latest Halo Major:
➡️ https://escharts.com/news/hcs-2024-arlington-major-viewership?utm_campaign=news_posts&utm_medium=sc_socials&utm_term=2024_03_21
Conclusion: SSG is a views magnet
Tough to find, but your best bet is finding things in discord servers dedicated to it
Clutch academy is decent
I think the question was which items given at this tournament were repeats
Seems like similar number for the peak on Sunday, near 100k
hi
I wonder if these guys are using different data sets
Hi
It seems Caolan was only using Twitch viewership, while likely the esports charts uses twitch + Youtube
so that's great news, overall viewership is a bit up from last year
https://escharts.com/organizers/343-industries
Understanding the article's claim of 'best viewership in 2 years' requires some digesting.
It's actually
Best # of total hours watched in a Major or Invitational in over 2 years.
They aren't counting Worlds, and not mentioning 'peak viewers' for that.
Still, that's actually a great W
It's the most # of hours watched for NOT Worlds since Kansas City.
Kansas City was peak
I don't see Raleigh on the chart...
I had to change the settings
apparently raleigh isn't listed under 343, just under Halo
man i love the commando after the patch, can't wait to see pros taking advantage of it for long range engagements, beside the br or stalker there's another alternative now
I hope so!
So I have a somewhat low end PC and I was wondering what the best settings are to get the best FPS
Dm'ed you
I honestly still dont think pros will pick it up much more than they are now. I know I still dont. TTK is just to slow compared to the bandit and its harder to use compared to the bandit since the bandit has no recoil.
ye but the bandit doesn't have the same range, i think on maps like forbidden for example the br and now the commando will be really useful. I've already seen Lucid with it in mm and he was frying lol
Commando ttk is actually faster than the bandit.
Commando has always been kind of a beast even before the buff. I was able to win a lot of 1v1s with it vs a bandit up close
He’s a higher rank than you, don’t question him. 😉
I finally got around to watching the Pit CTF game for the grand finals and oh wow there were some insane snipes and plays
Not in practice.
I agree the commando is quirky like that.
Youre so low bro
I’m 38 with two kids, I play like once a week for couple hours. What do you expect?
It is .2 seconds faster than the Evo.
Yes, IF you hit every shot. Which is much harder to do.
So in theory yes it is faster.
If you use 12 bullets it has just a bit more ttk than the Evo
Appreciate you.
based confess
Shows you Halo is still popular
Why they should do a Season 4 also
The competitive side is going strong doesn't have the same hype as it did a decade ago but still there's alot more prize money these days
doubt there will be a year 4
Is Business signed up for the Cloud 9 5K tournament with Druk or a different fourth?
do you have a faceit account?
if you sign in, you can click on the team and see the rosters
I'm almost wondering if Business will play with Druk just for the rest of this Split, since he should be good for London.
Then after the split points get nerfed, so they can grab a different 4th and not be too penalized points wise.
why should he be good for London?
He is having issues getting into the US. London is likely a different story.
I hope swish finds a good team for London.
Let's get more people using their mics please!!! No one likes muted nontalking players. We need callouts!
343 needs to do something about boosters and Onyx 1700 queueing with D1 players to boost them. I should not be Diamond 2/3 and matching with them in my game. The MMR system is trash. 343 needs to make it where only you can queue with the same rank and Ranked Arena forces game chat. Don't say it's not possible cause OG MW2 SND forced you to be in game chat
This is outrageous. I would like to know why I am shooting blanks after a network update and why not update the server tick rate cause I know that's at a 20 showing how bad the game plays
You need to take Solitude out of the map pool until spawns get reworked or just bring back the OG Plaza from Halo 5. The map was made in forge and it is evident after running to light rifle from courtyard and bouncing in the floor and falling through the floor continuously.
There is a reason why there is a decline in player base after a certain point. If you can not see that there is a problem
You said you lowered the bandit rilfe so it doesn't drown out the sound but it still blows my ears out so I have to play Halo Infinite at 10% volume making me not being able to hear the game or my teammates
Hey man you OK?
Cutting through the ranting, you've made some good points.
First of all, 343 does care about is community, and they do listen.
What they struggle with is communication back to the players, evidenced by your feelings here.
Ok.
343 actually has done work to address onyx matchmaking. They introduced 2 things: A car gap maximum for people you can search with, and a cap at 1600 where above that you can only be in a party of 2 maximum.
They did that to address uneven matches in CSR, as well as avoid 4 stacks just rolling over Onyx lobbies.
Lots of people are vocal about eliminating those restrictions.
The fact that 343 hasn't eliminated them shows that they see the value in the system, are listening to more than just the noisy twitter fans, and care about the matchmaking experience.
Forcing game chat won't solve anything.
People would just use Discord voice chat outside the game if the Xbox live parties voice stopped working.
The world is different from 2005-2009.
If you can submit to them clips and data, it will go into making further improvements
Solitude isn't working in a highly competitive environment, I think most people agree.
I'd like to see it removed too.
They need to upgrade the tick rate for the server. 20 or whatever we are playing on is terrible. Ghost shots, ghost melees. The heavy aim is now a thing since the network update and I have to speed up my aim now and it's terrible
343 needs to stop doing in house testing and start doing live testing only
They do both
As any developer should
Mans trying to become a discord mod LOL
lets stay on topic and constructive please.
why did I get a warning?
For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @proud summit.
@torpid beacon see. Look at these weirdos ^
Then we need a discussion thread for this stuff we are ranting about cause nothing I was ranting about is technically "on-topic"
Can we get like a suggestion forum or something
There is a halo discussion forum
There is but this has more to do with Halo
I'm not sure, but I think anyone can make 'threads' so feel free.
yeah, looks like anyone can
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🎟 Pre-Sale = Tomorrow
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@torpid beacon
Two playlist changes were made via a backend update today:
• Strongholds on Solitude has been removed from Ranked Arena based on match data & community feedback.
• The recently added community-made BTB maps are now evenly weighted with the existing BTB maps.
Map & mode combos…
this channel is specifically for discussing the halo championship series, not halo in general. that's what #1076337363770417172 #1039633978841374720 #halo-discussion are for.
when i say "on topic" i mean to keep chatter in this specific channel related to HCS
gone from HCS as well: https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1772676255072018540
Strongholds on Solitude has been removed from Ranked Arena and HCS rotation. We are working towards replacing and will have more to share on that later. The replacement may or may not be ready in time for London qualifiers. Ping @RichieHeinz for any questions you might have.
👍 For clarity - ranked discussion can sort of fit here too, or...?
@astral linden
in my opinion ranked discussion could be considered on topic for this channel, depending on exactly what's being said. consider the following:
✅ "i think ranked halo would be more interesting if XYZ sandbox change was implemented"
❌ "i was playing ranked and someone was being silly and now im mad about it"
forgive my brainfog, i've only just gotten home
gotcha.
I guess that just more falls into the general guidelines for the server overall.
If it's constructive, it can fit.
pretty much, yeah. if people want to rant about silly/bad players there's more appropriate places for it. this channel's relatively quiet so i'm not automatically opposed to general ranked discussion here
Two playlist changes were made via a backend update today:
• Strongholds on Solitude has been removed from Ranked Arena based on match data & community feedback.
• The recently added community-made BTB maps are now evenly weighted with the existing BTB maps.
Map & mode combos…
that game really got them to remove it
No I played a 30 game D6 player
Can I not be paired with a teammate that's just going to leave for once
Lucky I didn't lose any elo points
Happened to me yesterday on live fire koth and acquarius it's giving me a headache
It's a tale as old as time
Yup
more VIP available tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/camroyal_/status/1773043994974359710
JERSEY!
@winged cradle ^
thanks!
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Website says it is sold out. Like within five minutes or so.
general admission?
Supposedly both. My brother is trying to buy tickets. He already has flights and hotel but no ticket yet for the event. 🤦🏻♂️
there will 100% be daily tickets at the door, if he's no successful
The @HCS @Quadrant event sold out pretty much instantly (7 minutes). Thanks everyone for your excitement and enthusiasm. Both parties are looking forward to hosting a great event for you all!
7 MINUTES
We (Europeans) seemed to be eager to have an event.
Now imagine in 2022 🙂
yeah, if a proper Major was there in year 1, and not just a regional
Oh no ! Looking for a spare ticket if you happen to have one 😦
i certainly don't
Already booked my hotel and trains...
I imagine there will be some single day tickets at the door
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/quadrant-hcs-major-london-tickets-866675669257?aff=oddtdtcreator
I didn't see the description "The 2024 Halo World Championship is coming to Europe and you are invited!" xD Not really that but ok
Did we know how many ticket where they ?
yeah, the wording isn't exactly correct
i haven't seen
Strangely nobody in HCS or QUadrant noticed that it was not the same name/category
I would check a couple times a day, it's possible someone might need to refund their tickets, and the website might put them back in the pool.
The website only allowed me to buy two tickets... But we are three people to go.
My mates (at 16:01 !!) were in front of a "unavailable" screen.
I mean, tf am I going to do with two tickets, is there someone willing to sell us one?
you won't be able to do the buying/selling here.
And check the website every day.
Also, I hope day tickets will be available at the door.
people are speculating that maybe ticket sales got botted.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I also don't know event brite's level of security.
about half the replies to this tweet are people that weren't able to get tickets, or not able to get enough for their group.
Something has to be wrong here
https://twitter.com/Quadrant/status/1773390511539138646
🚨 THE QUADRANT HCS LONDON MAJOR IS NOW SOLD OUT 🚨
We've been blown away by the events popularity, thank you and see you in May 💚
either:
-botted
-venue is going to be in a tiny room in the stadium basement and hardly any tickets were available
-eventbrite didn't actually have the right number available for sale
That's the only options I can think of.
I hope we'll be able to fix this somehow...
I think we'll see a ton of people considering this:
https://twitter.com/MammothGB/status/1773388096807039412
@StallionStreams As team passes aren't out yet, which is usually 4 players + 1 coach, could try get entry as the coach? happy to put you in contact with some teams down the road if you & neefy need it.
or even people signing up as an entire team.
Coming soon!
can't see the above posts, what's this in response to?
options for tickets
Surely more tickets have gotta get added for @HCS London, yeah? Sold out in 7 mins and so many people missing out can’t be a good thing. @Quadrant
I'm guessing you don't have twitter/x?
Not anymore, used to but that place ain't it
ah
it's useful for Halo info.
@marsh swallow and @long timber
https://twitter.com/Tashi343i/status/1773445882366857671
Good news! The @HCS and @Quadrant teams have been hustling all morning/afternoon/evening to find a way to get more capacity in the venue and sell more tickets, and we've just came up with a plan to do so by rearranging everything in the venue.
Keep an eye on @Quadrant for…
exams exams exams
You'll ace them anyway
i initially thought they were at the same time, turns out my exams were later so i got happy. then turned out i got the event date wrong and it happened to still be at the same time as my exams 😩
but its fine, no one i know from here is going which is really the only reason id attend
@torpid beacon @mortal musk y'all disappoint me 😤
Yeah London's not exactly local lol
I'd love to go, but I can't justify the expense right now
good thing the tickets aren't on sale until next week!
(and they aren't too expensive)
Travel and accommodation
for sure.
You are well loved - I'm sure you could swing some very reasonable shared accommodation.
Travel is another story of course.
yeah but 99% of the stuff I used to see just wasn't halo 💀
Oh probably, but it's a big year this year. Lots happening, as much as I'd want to I think I'll have to wait :)
moment
I totally understand the finances issue.
But 'have to wait' will likely be 4+ years until the next Major in Europe at this rate :/
that was a nice find from over a year ago!
Little one will be 4 by then, pretty sure I can swing a short family vacation 😛
that'll be a great idea 🙂
That's from a year and 2 months ago jit 😭😭
they are also not in the server
Finally official
https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1773802356494242038?t=ILAhm0inU3Ia-KFivl0hPg&s=19
Did you miss our Halo tournaments? Miss them no more!
We're back with the Cloud9 x Halo Infinite $5k Showdown, which you can sign your team up for RIGHT NOW at the link below!
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Gamers Assembly 2024 is still live
Still 3 series today this afternoon (europe).
BH3 Esport won the tournement
Nice!
oh, missed my chance to improve my ranked slayer placing
oopsie.
it rotated out this morning
it's now Tac/SWAT
https://twitter.com/Cloud9/status/1773802356494242038
Still no Optic, Faze or Sentinels.
This tournament happens this weekend, and registration is already half full.
Did you miss our Halo tournaments? Miss them no more!
We're back with the Cloud9 x Halo Infinite $5k Showdown, which you can sign your team up for RIGHT NOW at the link below!
🔗 https://t.co/rUo5vKZyxW
I really hope we get Atlanta dates soon
This is strictly a spreadsheet of incompetence. 😂
i wouldnt fully say that
year 2 had decent communication - we got it all in advance!
👀
everyone seems to have signed up
Any pro or sweaty player in here? You might want to check this one: https://fxtwitter.com/ArturBloodshot/status/1775634292489793929
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#lfg-competitive might give you better luck 👀
Gotcha
this is sick!
Not bad pricing
Lucid reason to this it seems was
"All the other top teams are playing in it so we are to"
Good
C9 tweet said it starts at 9am. Do we know what time zone that is?
sounds like pacific
It's usually in Pacific cause they operate off 343 time and 343 is PST
Boy that's rough
I see you were supposed to play against USF. You had a solid team on paper.
😦