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potent ocean
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hate how a lot of woman consider gaming childish and then just work smoke and get turnt at clubs

quartz ruin
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Because that’s 90% of the story, Nina Kovan probably has my favorite parts

potent ocean
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thank you friend 🥹

noble dagger
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I play halo on pc and I love the lore and I need to say it’s one of the best community’s, still with the ups and downs. This game has always a special place. Ps: thank you she is hyped to the limit lol

ebon depot
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Idk about all of you, but I'm excited

potent ocean
noble dagger
unique vigil
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yeah theres a lot of die hard fans that are upset that it isnt 1:1

golden gale
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prescription

unique vigil
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i feel like its 90% accurate but with that 10% it would be perfect. I think thats why people are so toxic about it.

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its just so close to perfection, 343s first potential W lol

earnest quiver
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Is it just me or the twitch drops havent shown up just yet ingame

calm fiberBOT
earnest quiver
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No no, I mean that theyre claimed and everything on twitch. Never ran into that issue with previous drops until now

shell moon
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After cea I’m not holding back on them

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I love them but fool me once trope..

steady jolt
earnest quiver
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Aight thx

ancient barn
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Hey guys do you think Halo Infinite will get a discount on steam the next months?

worldly sedge
earnest quiver
worldly sedge
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True

noble dagger
noble dagger
worldly sedge
earnest quiver
hasty zinc
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this look awesome

meager linden
noble dagger
noble dagger
ember canopy
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We're so back!!

jade gust
compact herald
meager linden
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Currently, the best bandit skin, even better than forerunner skin

ember canopy
vagrant kettle
verbal pond
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343 hire this man

jade gust
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That person does know Halo 6 released back in 2021, right?

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It's called Halo Infinite

vagrant kettle
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Hey, sorry I pinged you a few minutes ago, I responded to the wrong message

jade gust
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And as a bonus, the MA5K Hush looks real nice with the new Field Test coating

cedar turret
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I need to start a barcade called The "Day Go Bye system' then hire mark hamil for the advert and have him say sigh and say, "wrong place again."

vagrant kettle
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The new dmr reminds me of the rifles they use in the Winter Olympics

blissful lava
jade gust
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Aye

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I just picked a random map to get screenshots on

grand minnow
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it's a shame weapons don't have attachments the same way Helmets do. i would love to remove the SOCOM laser from the Sidekick Automag, and put it on the Tacticlamp frame instead

blissful lava
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Whoever made that map must be so cool

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🤓

jade gust
languid ridge
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Renegade going 18-2 in elimination finals might be the craziest thing from this weekend lol

limpid ferry
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I’m stuck in Halo Infinite Limbo until the next big update or Operation comes out.

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I finished all my battle passes

compact herald
grand minnow
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also the Blackjacket claims to be a machine pistol conversion with a spare magazine in its foregrip, but that magazine does NOT look like it can be removed

jade gust
grand minnow
vagrant kettle
modern hare
jade gust
grand minnow
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SAME

jade gust
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Like, give me a COD Black Ops 1 style customisation menu for weapons in campaign

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Not for literally every weapon, but for the non-power weapons like the AR, BR, SMG, Carbine and Plasma Rifle

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Which like, I feel Covenant/Banished weapon attachments would be a real interesting thing to explore

grand minnow
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the frame on the Stocking Stuffer sidekick looks so cool in black too

prisma kestrel
grand minnow
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also, the Sidekick Automag looks like it's trying to cosplay as the M6C/SOCOM from Halo 3

limpid ferry
mortal mica
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Hey, dont hate the sidekick, that thang goated

compact herald
mortal mica
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I love the side kick, looks more like the halo 2/ halo wars 1 magnum than halo 3 odst

jade gust
modern hare
compact herald
grand minnow
jade gust
mortal mica
jade gust
vagrant kettle
mortal mica
limpid ferry
mortal mica
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Bye bye

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Dinner time, good luck magnum ers

languid ridge
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That was a brutal way for Envy to finish Infinite

blazing cave
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ggs envy
That was pretty heartbreaking loss

steady jolt
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@austere obsidian Whatever the drama is, please keep it out of this server. Thanks

stuck wind
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Do you guys think we’re getting the battle pass system back in the next MP halo

languid ridge
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Two years(Maybe more) from now....uhhhhhhhh maybe

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A lot can happen in the industry in that time

trim saddle
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Oh I have the CE magnum in my hands right now 😁

languid ridge
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Do we know actually why HCS is ending?

trim saddle
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Printer goes brrrrrrrrrr

next cedar
lapis ivy
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Wait another remake like anniversary?

vivid vortex
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wish we got a demo for us at home to play

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miss when we got game demos, prob gonna be months before we even get to possibly try the game to give feedback

languid ridge
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Earliest we are going to see Halo 7 is 2027, so if that is when it releases, then HCS in 2028 at the earliest

plucky nymph
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are there any good forge fire fight maps

languid ridge
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It feels like they could've squeezed at least one more year out of Infinite HCS

dusk coral
plucky nymph
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the official ones are mid at best and they dont have any warthogs

indigo lotus
languid ridge
languid ridge
dusk coral
compact herald
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Ah, what did they mean by 2026 HCS then?

blazing cave
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Halo esports is still going into 2026

obsidian wyvern
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lvt is hosting hcs next year or smthn

blazing cave
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Not HCS

compact herald
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HWC?

languid ridge
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HCS is ran by Halo Studios(formerly 343), as far as I'm aware, Halo Studios is only running Halo Fest next year which is essentially the stand in for having no HaloWC next year

floral pollen
# compact herald We're getting HCS in 2026

We're not getting HCS in 2026, this was the last official year
there will still prolly be more "community" tournaments, but HCS isn't returning at the very least until 2028 going by the wording in their post about it a while ago

blazing cave
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Multiple orgs are supporting including LVT

languid ridge
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Though I fully expect Halo Fest to have tournaments, but not to the level of HCS

languid ridge
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They got room for at least a 2026 season

steady jolt
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<p>Earlier in the summer we announced that Year 4 would be the final year for Official HCS competition on Halo Infinite, and today at HaloWC we announced some more information about what competitors can expect in 2026. Competitive Halo is important to you, the community, and it’s important to us as well. For 2026, we’re […]</p>

fickle drift
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Hay Low

compact herald
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Oh so we are getting it

obsidian wyvern
uneven grove
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Combat evolved

obsidian wyvern
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In 2026 we're excited to bring Halo to two @DreamHack events, starting with Birmingham, UK on March 27-29!

We're also partnering with @ShopifyRebels, @Spacestation, @FaZeEsports, @Cloud9, @LVTHalo, and @EuroHaloLeague to bring more Halo esports to the community next year - More

compact herald
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Evolved Combat

languid ridge
trim saddle
languid ridge
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Which just brings us right back to the billion dollar question...why

blazing cave
trim saddle
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Oooh then who was it that didn't know they had giveaways..

languid ridge
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They're doing esports next year, and are even running an HCS event at Halo Fest. This all just leads us to "why not just run a full HCS season next year?"

jade gust
blazing cave
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Yeah there was one person who said they weren’t getting notified for the giveaways

trim saddle
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Well, who all is active there's a #giveaways right now lol

steady jolt
astral wagon
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Party time PARTY

blazing cave
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This is it y’all

Last series of the century

bright patrol
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Blow up

languid ridge
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Not complaining about that though lol

blazing cave
steady jolt
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Sheesh Bravo looking SHARP tonight

hasty zinc
waxen rose
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Today or tomorrow

rocky thorn
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Ain't there a thing at the community stage at 4?

compact herald
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I love these comps. They make halo feel lively

steady jolt
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Folks, remember that HCS is only concluding for Infinite. That means it's just the pro circuit/major tournaments that are stopping. Smaller tournaments like we're seeing announced will still run.

HCS will be back for the next multiplayer Halo title

astral wagon
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Wish I was there, for sure

steady jolt
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We don't have a date right now

waxen rose
astral wagon
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Think my boss will go for me taking off two months in a row for a long weekend 😂 /j (nope)

languid ridge
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It's official, Formal is now the only player to have been in the grand finals at every WC for Infinite

waxen rose
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Bust it down!!!!!

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Something something raise the roof

astral wagon
blazing cave
compact herald
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Optic scored

astral wagon
waxen rose
compact herald
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Its 2-2 now

vivid vortex
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so no more announcements today? im still gonna watch tho since this is a big moment

steady jolt
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Don't believe there are more announcements set for today. I may be wrong, but I don't think there are

obsidian wyvern
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leaks suggest they'll announce Titanfall 3

waxen rose
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Fix the pipes then

steady jolt
obsidian wyvern
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I'll fix the pipes when I've got BT with me

languid ridge
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I suspect when HCS starts up again, they're going to keep the Halo Fest branding around and it is essentially going to become "HaloWC at Halo Fest"

vagrant kettle
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343pls give me the unicorn of earth emblem I’ve entered in every contest

waxen rose
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Neighh

astral wagon
compact herald
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One more flag and shopify wins oofie

steady jolt
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I want to see Shopify take this title

compact herald
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Aaaaaaand they have taken el win

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For this game

astral wagon
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duck_dance great game

blazing cave
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That was quick

compact herald
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Freakin despise this map

steady jolt
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Recharge? I always loved this one. The aesthetic is so cool

obsidian wyvern
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recharge is one of the best halo maps of all time

steady jolt
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Hill games can be wild

blazing cave
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Recharge is an OG

compact herald
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Some will disagree with me but the shock rifle has to be one of the most satisfying guns to use

languid ridge
astral wagon
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It's always so weird to listen in bc I have to check if I'm getting echo 😂

steady jolt
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The early iterations of Live Fire were interesting, definitely like how the final iteration ended up though

languid ridge
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As basic as the layout is, I also love Streets

obsidian wyvern
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live fire, recharge, streets and aquarius are s tier

languid ridge
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Aquarius is such a great map

obsidian wyvern
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some of the best maps in halo, I will not comment on the rest

steady jolt
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Streets is good, but it's no Plaza

languid ridge
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No, it isn't, I'm glad they brought Plaza to Infinite

blazing cave
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I miss those two maps that got rotated out

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One of the OG maps

trim saddle
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Whatever happened to scar for btb and firefight?

languid ridge
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Bazaar?

blazing cave
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Bazaar!!!

steady jolt
trim saddle
blazing cave
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No one liked bazaar 😭😔

trim saddle
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How bazaar

blazing cave
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lol that was an OG map I loved

languid ridge
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Bazaar is a decent map, maybe not for HCS though

steady jolt
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Bazaar is great

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It used to be hilarious

blazing cave
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Behemoth was good too but I can see the complaints

astral wagon
languid ridge
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Behemoth was better when they adjusted it in year two

steady jolt
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There was a point you could grapple sling shot your way over the big doors

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But it got fixed

trim saddle
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Accidental haha's are the best haha's

steady jolt
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I was sad lol

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But it would have broken HCS

steady jolt
astral wagon
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Even better 😂

languid ridge
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A map that was hated on but I really liked, was Argyle

astral wagon
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Some bugs are so fun.

trim saddle
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Like rolly poleys

steady jolt
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There was also the fruit and veg table bug, where it would stick to you and follow you about, going absolutely nuts

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God I miss those early builds

trim saddle
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Spartans need their fruits and veggies!

astral wagon
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I've had some funny bugs in other games but that is pretty good lmao

trim saddle
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The melee glitch was fun, I want it back in a specific mode.

languid ridge
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I took a little bit of a break from Infinite(I'm not someone that can only play one game for four year straight lol) did they ever fix the bug where bodies float mid air and spin? (Please say no, that bug is hilarious)

steady jolt
languid ridge
placid tree
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I just realized something…all this talk of differences between the remake and the original, but I’ve seen nobody bring up the smoking gun in this comparison. Have we forgotten so easily that the remake has CRABS???? It has CRAAAAABS?????

steady jolt
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@hasty zinc do you have the melee bug gif?

astral wagon
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People being mad at bugs vs. People cracking up at bugs 😂

compact herald
trim saddle
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-Laughs in bethesda-

placid tree
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The answer is clear

astral wagon
trim saddle
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It's opaque?

languid ridge
blazing cave
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I miss the chickens in Bazaar map

languid ridge
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Time for another OG map

compact herald
astral wagon
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I'm a baby halo player and I love hearing about the bugs 😂

blazing cave
compact herald
trim saddle
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Can you feel it now Mr Krabs?

languid ridge
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Remember Last Spartan Standing? Pepperidge farm remembers Last Spartan Standing

vapid kayak
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is anyone else just unable to claim twitch drops

compact herald
blazing cave
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I might have to play quickplay eventually lol

trim saddle
steady jolt
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This map was cool early on. There was a cave and grass instead of the tunnel.

vapid kayak
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cause i claimed them all through twitch a bit ago and theyre still not in game

compact herald
calm fiberBOT
languid ridge
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Is the door on Live Fire still showing the ONI logo?

trim saddle
compact herald
pallid isle
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Yo i won the giveaway lets go

compact herald
steady jolt
vagrant kettle
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I GOT IT
YEEEEEESSSSS

languid ridge
pallid isle
trim saddle
compact herald
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Oh bruh

steady jolt
trim saddle
pallid isle
vagrant kettle
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Will be making an earth unicorn fit once I receive it!

blazing cave
trim saddle
compact herald
blazing cave
languid ridge
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SR is dominating strongholds here

blazing cave
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Oh

Thanks a lot 343 🙄

languid ridge
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Quantum Translocator NEEDS to come back in Halo 7

astral wagon
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Wooo

vagrant kettle
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What do I need to do to claim the unicorn emblem? Does it automatically get sent to my halo account?

compact herald
pallid isle
vagrant kettle
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Cool, just had to make sure

compact herald
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Wait they banned Mint Blitz from competing?

hasty zinc
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huh?

languid ridge
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Why would they?

compact herald
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Someone in the twitch chat mentioned it

hasty zinc
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lol

remote rose
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Who would win, Prime Jerome 092, or Noble 6 Prime.

Hand to hand combat only

void cairn
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Twitch drops not working for others on halo waypoint?

compact herald
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First time hearing this

languid ridge
void cairn
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haven't gotten it to show the whole day

compact herald
hasty zinc
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don't listen to twitch chat lol

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people can just make up stuff

languid ridge
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Also Mint wouldn't be able to hold his own against HCS players. He gets clips from smurfing

hasty zinc
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for example, someone said this

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IS THIS TRUE

compact herald
hasty zinc
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disgusting

astral wagon
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I heard that there was gonna be a halo farming sim PANDAsip
If I say it enough it will come true

astral wagon
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Supplies for the troops

steady jolt
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Aura

languid ridge
astral wagon
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Sure

void cairn
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Where can you get support in the discord?

calm fiberBOT
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You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

astral wagon
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Grenade trees /j

obsidian wyvern
blazing cave
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Halowaypoint is sort of bugged out

You have to mess around with it until you can claim each drop

obsidian wyvern
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I'm guessing mint had early access to the game

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and there's something where employees can't compete or something.. even if he's not a direct employee of halo studios, it's because he worked with them

hallow apex
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Yo is the halo infinite assists in the CE remake trail just placeholders

obsidian wyvern
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I remember ubernick got to playtest halo infinite, which meant he couldn't compete for a year or so

hasty zinc
indigo lotus
languid ridge
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Formal is carrying Optic atm

steady jolt
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I don't think Mint was in any of the early access groups

obsidian wyvern
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idk the specifics, but NDA has nothing to do with competing so it'd have been part of a contract I guess - looks like I'm wrong

obsidian wyvern
compact herald
steady jolt
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Forerunners certainly had a no-compete clause NDA, lasted 6 months

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Pilots, I'm not sure

astral wagon
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Not like it's clear we would know if someone was in an NDA like that. Sometimes you aren't allowed to even talk about it 😅

obsidian wyvern
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I've seen people come out that they got to so I guess it was fine for this

astral wagon
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Not always best to assume it's a negative reason

languid ridge
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Guys, I don't think Optic is going to get the trophy

obsidian wyvern
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same with infinite, I think they were all in the credits too

compact herald
misty marsh
obsidian wyvern
compact herald
steady jolt
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Oh, he was a Pilot. If there was a competitive ban, it was for the first 6 months or something. It wasn't a straight up ban or anything

languid ridge
astral wagon
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Waiting to hear about flavor of soap

obsidian wyvern
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I basically got too lazy to warm up my milk in a mug and pour it in, so I've resorted to pouring the milk in first

misty marsh
steady jolt
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If he was banned, it's for something else, if that even happened

misty marsh
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coco pops in warm milk 🔥
Weetabix minis in warm milk >>>>

astral wagon
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At that point just make oatmeal

compact herald
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And rebel got this one

indigo lotus
misty marsh
severe flame
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Anyone know if we'll be able to disable hit markers in ce remake btw?

blazing cave
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Omg

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Last game for optic..

languid ridge
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Yeah, Shopify has one map left

astral wagon
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So excited to run like the wind in the remake.

compact herald
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Alright I need to pass out its nearly 3 in the morning💀 ill have to miss out on the final round

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Have a good day/night lads

steady jolt
obsidian wyvern
astral wagon
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Coco pop cereal feels like.. crunchy hot chocolate mix.

languid ridge
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Optic does pop off in Slayer, this will probably end in 4-2

misty marsh
ocean herald
misty marsh
obsidian wyvern
astral wagon
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I don't think we have weetabix here

misty marsh
ocean herald
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It’s that honey combs?

languid ridge
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Actually, yeah this might be 4-1

ocean herald
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Oh god no nvm

misty marsh
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its just idk wheat and stuff but in some round cubic shape

indigo lotus
astral wagon
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Like wheat Chex maybe?

misty marsh
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that then falls and melts apart in milk

misty marsh
astral wagon
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Maybe I'll see if some internal imports shop has it

clever cradle
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Box toy

obsidian wyvern
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why did someone make a gif of their Weetabix

astral wagon
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International*

misty marsh
obsidian wyvern
languid ridge
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Renegade is 3-6 and Formal is 2-6 it's so over guys lol

clever cradle
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I can’t wait for halo guys

obsidian wyvern
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because it's green lid milk and not blue lid milk, so it's lower quality

clever cradle
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Guys who else can’t wait for halo

misty marsh
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people who drink weetabix with cold milk are vile

astral wagon
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Bribe friends into shipping me some /hj

clever cradle
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I’m here to wait for halo the whole time. I’m on halo time

obsidian wyvern
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(I don't actually remember the difference in lid colours)

blazing cave
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Omg it’s over

languid ridge
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Optic, Faze, SSG, and Shopify.

clever cradle
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Guys, livin on halo time. Am I right?

misty marsh
astral wagon
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Trade good pop tart flavors for it and good chocolate

steady jolt
languid ridge
blazing cave
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It’s been great

clever cradle
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🎶 Livin on haaalo time 🎶

obsidian wyvern
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idk man I just pick up the blue bottle all the time lol

green is only for when they run out, I've never had red

clever cradle
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Guys right?

misty marsh
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i actually got my mocha with skimmed milk (red top) for the first time today and it tasted the exact same

pallid isle
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@steady jolt oh thanks for giveaway, didn’t even notice you were hosting it lol

steady jolt
clever cradle
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Guys who else here is livin on halo time?

languid ridge
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Shopify is about to get a steak lmao

astral wagon
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Idk what that means

blazing cave
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I have to thank Halo Infinite HCS for getting me into the competitive playlist

steady jolt
astral wagon
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Woo good for them!

clever cradle
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Livin on halo time guys you know?

flint plank
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a steaktacular to end HCS

steady jolt
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Well done Shopify

clever cradle
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It’s the halo theme song

pallid isle
misty marsh
languid ridge
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GGs guys

Optic, Faze, SSG, and Shopify. Good game

clever cradle
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The guy says “livin on halo time”

void cairn
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Does twitch drops on halo waypoint work for anyone else? I cant see mine for the entire day

obsidian wyvern
misty marsh
obsidian wyvern
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blue cap milk* not blue milk

misty marsh
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cause if your twitch is linked to xbox then theres a chance it went straight over

clever cradle
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The theme song goes som’n like this

🎶 livin on halo time 🎶

languid ridge
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Three straight L's for Optic in grand finals is wild

ocean herald
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Blue is 2% for us. Red is whole

misty spindle
severe flame
misty marsh
misty spindle
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🫡 to HCS being dead for a year (minimum)

misty marsh
severe flame
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Hhehehe

languid ridge
blazing cave
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Halo esports is still going on next year

misty spindle
fickle drift
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Never felt so empty after a finals, we just never showed up

clever cradle
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Did you guys ever hear the halo theme song?

I think the spartan master chief voice OC sang it

It goes som’n along these lines guys.

🎶 livin on haaalo time🎶

void cairn
languid ridge
misty spindle
blazing cave
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It’s still halo esports lol

languid ridge
misty marsh
obsidian wyvern
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I was waiting for h8 to bring out the Star wars gif

hasty zinc
clever cradle
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Faze isn’t participating this year. They’re singing halo time

misty spindle
steady jolt
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<p>Earlier in the summer we announced that Year 4 would be the final year for Official HCS competition on Halo Infinite, and today at HaloWC we announced some more information about what competitors can expect in 2026. Competitive Halo is important to you, the community, and it’s important to us as well. For 2026, we’re […]</p>

balmy sundial
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CLASSIC FLOPTIC CHOKE LOL

fickle drift
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End me man

clever cradle
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IMO it’s insane that they can’t even get a decent song let alone a team. The only good one was halo time guys

misty spindle
# languid ridge Agreed

sure there will be grassroots.... sure you got an "Invitational Tournament".... but I mean are you not mad if you are a pro Halo player?

blazing cave
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SR just dominated this whole season

languid ridge
misty spindle
clever cradle
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Ig no one paid any attention to the brothers. Spence went hammer mode once they started playing “halo time” on the sound system

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Hideo kojima was there too jamming out

astral wagon
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I'll be honest.. I mute most in game music 😂

languid ridge
clever cradle
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Yeah but you don’t mute it when halo time comes on

hasty zinc
astral wagon
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Sure I do

misty spindle
clever cradle
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O you don’t

balmy sundial
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now to wait at least 2 years for HCS to come back and for the midwest to get snubbed out of a lan event again cause we're allergic to hosting stuff in the midwest apparently

misty spindle
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it really baffles me why you even disregard HCS for a year if you aren't ready for a new launch for over a year....

astral wagon
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Whole thing starts muted 😂

clever cradle
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It goes som’n like this

🎶 livin on haaalo time 🎶

languid ridge
clever cradle
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No you don’t

astral wagon
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I'm so happy you have a song you love

hasty zinc
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maybe it's not infinite, dunno

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anything is possible

blazing cave
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What song is that lol

clever cradle
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It’s the halo theme song. Spence goes hammer mode on it.

ocean herald
#

This is the first time in chat I’ve witnessed sadness over hcs and a halo song I’ve never heard AND a Kojima mention

misty spindle
blazing cave
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I’m going to miss HCS next year

astral wagon
#

Just a random kojima mention was unexpected

misty spindle
#

well we still got CS2/Rocket League/Valorant/other esports I guess that wont have any risk of dying any time soon

fickle drift
#

Yeah

misty spindle
#

I still wished Halo had the popularity to hold a world title in an actual arena though

clever cradle
#

Yeah I’m gonna miss seeing Spence at HCS going hammer mode on ChicnJcky12 while halo time plays over the speakers

vagrant kettle
#

What are you on about

languid ridge
hasty zinc
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maybe

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maybe not

misty spindle
hasty zinc
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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that would be sick

ocean herald
#

I feel like a new mainline game would be announced at a bigger event than an hcs tournament

astral wagon
#

Same

balmy sundial
#

by the time hcs comes back is probably when the twitch mods are probably gonna finally get around to my appeal request 😭 i don't want to use youtube chat its worse than twitch

hasty zinc
#

announcement of a new game and you only have to wait a week? sign me up rn

misty spindle
clever cradle
#

Who else is excited to hear halo time at E3? I’m gonna be the guy wearing the Steve outfit guys. You might see me 😎

astral wagon
#

Honestly did not expect a new mainline game to get announced here. I feel like that's too big and would be more likely at something like sgf

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Nah not at game awards bc that's for Game. Awards. Lol

ocean herald
#

Game awards are reserved for Kojima only

clever cradle
#

Don’t worry guys, I’ll keep you updated on the latest results of the E3 Convention about halo. They’re gonna be playing the fanbases favorite song. 🎶 halo time 🎶

vagrant kettle
#

Please stop

misty spindle
fickle drift
#

New mainline game coming in 5 years

vivid vortex
#

no demo.. 🙁

hasty zinc
#

they had a demo

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you just couldn't play it 😛

hasty zinc
#

unless you went to Seattle

clever cradle
misty spindle
#

wonder if we'll ever have HCS Worlds in a full arena and not in Seattle

clever cradle
#

Hey guys, who’s gonna be rooting for SPENCE

vagrant kettle
#

I don’t know who that is

astral wagon
blazing cave
#

Why they keep saying that lol

ocean herald
#

Did hcs run the full lifespan of h5? I don’t really follow hcs

Maybe we can figure out a rough estimate of the next game announcement à la pizza pentagon theory 😂

misty spindle
# astral wagon What does that even mean?! 😭

CS/Rocket League/Valorant all play in an arena that has 360 seating, a jumbotron at center, and players at center. Halo plays in a more smaller setting.

I know Halo is smaller, but you'd think they could try at least one time to play in a bigger venue, and rotate Worlds in other regions/cities

astral wagon
#

Having helped set up large conventions before just imagining setting up something like this in one open space... What even 😂

clever cradle
#

Oh who is Spence?

ocean herald
astral wagon
#

Ah. A small arena. Yeah but then they'd need a secondary space for all the other things

clever cradle
#

Yeah he did buddy! He wrote halo time and get this… HES IN HCS! HE GOES HAMMER MODE WHEN HALO TIME PLAYS!

astral wagon
#

Unrelated. Loving her sparkles

pure gate
misty spindle
astral wagon
#

I'm ok with this

blazing cave
#

I’m not understanding what that person is saying lol

pure gate
ocean herald
blazing cave
misty spindle
astral wagon
#

Seattle is a good spot for large conventions imo

obsidian wyvern
fickle drift
#

My god this is sad man

misty spindle
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I can't think of any major esport that holds a World Championship in one city every year. Some rotate to the same city every 2-3 years, but not annually

ocean herald
blazing cave
#

I’m tearing up

indigo lotus
ocean herald
clever cradle
#

I’m back guys.

Okay, who’s doing it? Who’s playing halo time in the discord chat?

misty spindle
astral wagon
#

Also most large conventions spaces are planned out a few years in advance and it's far more than a sports event that has a built in space typically already

misty spindle
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especially if the tournament is only 3 days

astral wagon
#

You have to work around all the rest of the large conventions across the country. Not an easy task

clever cradle
#

This is insane. I’m tagging Hideo Kojima

ocean herald
astral wagon
#

Halo worlds had/has a locked in date or I'd eat my hat

misty spindle
#

although I doubt they'd fill it is the problem

clever cradle
#

Guys so I just read that Spence is dropping out of HCS…

astral wagon
#

Like I do a smaller con where I like and we have a set day that's saved by our center each year

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Peeps can't just come when they like 😅

misty spindle
#

hell I'd support having Halo/HCS be part of some MAJOR XBOX in person event

astral wagon
#

Find a large one, open in the exact date needed, at the size an capacity etc etc. Yeah nah. Would be a many year search

clever cradle
#

He says “The scene is just too damn diversified. I can’t even get a glass of water without it claiming some gender identity”

I used to admire this guy. He was so cool when he would go hammer mode once the twins at HCS and get gold… turns out he’s a dagum biggot!

astral wagon
#

Nah repeat customers is more important to venues over a one time thing

hasty zinc
#

bro why is Data the only person who can say the word "sensors" correct in TNG, smh

blazing cave
#

Hammer mode…what does that mean lol

misty spindle
cedar turret
clever cradle
#

Oh hammer mode is when he beats the brakes off of his opponents with a hammer

ocean herald
#

@obsidian wyvern if google is to be believed hcs ran from 2016-2018 for halo 5 and infinite was announced in 2018!

So we’re close!!

clever cradle
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He goes hammer mode every time halo time plays on the loud sound

astral wagon
#

Maybe they have different needs to halo worlds. Idk
But it's not something easily swapped for sure

pure gate
blazing cave
#

HCS WILL RETURN

misty spindle
pure gate
#

I mean it hosts an NHL team, concerts, and very likely will get an NBA team soon

rocky thorn
#

Master chief will Return in secret wars

clever cradle
#

Yeah, maybe Spence can post an apology tweet to bring HCS back and then go hammer mode once the devs! I love Spence vs devs! They know they’re out for the count once Spence opens his jug of gamer supps!

ocean herald
tulip condor
#

hot take halo inf has the best gun play of any shooter game ever.

vagrant kettle
#

@Halostudios where secret announcement

pure gate
#

The problem is Microsoft continues to mismanage the Halo IP

fickle drift
#

Mess up the drops, end stream, Nice one

gaunt scaffold
#

Ok so I’m not the only one not getting the drops to progress right?

clever cradle
#

Hot take guys, I’m still a fan of Spence

misty spindle
#

im surprised when CS:GO had NA hosted a Major in 2018.... they did it at a University in Boston.... but that was freaking packed and loud, especially when Cloud 9 won the major
Agganis Arena - Capacity of 7,200

astral wagon
#

Secret announcement is behind the waterfall in that one game they didn't announce yet

clever cradle
#

Tes give Spence a second chance!

spare geode
#

No other game has given me as much trouble with Twitch drops as Halo

vagrant kettle
#

Who tf is spence

clever cradle
#

He’s the guy that goes hammer time. Are you kidding me?

astral wagon
#

Idk who Spence is

ocean herald
astral wagon
#

The one bad about people having genders, from whatever that dude said..but that's all I got

misty spindle
#

which HCS player is retiring.... cant remember his name

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oh it was Formal mb LMAO

clever cradle
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He’s a massive influence to the halo community. Halo time plays on the loud sound and then pops off in hammer mode

vagrant kettle
astral wagon
#

I don't even know who that is so I don't care

hasty zinc
#

who?

vagrant kettle
#

Some guy named Spence

hasty zinc
#

oh, idk

clever cradle
#

Spence goes nuts guys. He’s in HCS

astral wagon
#

I'm tempted to Google it but it might just make me mad and I'm tired

hasty zinc
#

I feel like this is bait

vagrant kettle
fickle drift
#

100% bait

cedar turret
#

I think that is the name of the peanut vendor at purgatory

blazing cave
#

Hammer goes mode

Something like that

misty spindle
#

well there is a bunch of Spencers we could ping 😂

clever cradle
#

He formed Faze klan but dropped out from their stupid viewpoints of crazy dictatorship type stuff. He goes hammer mode every time someone doesn’t know who he is… be careful guys

ocean herald
#

I’ve been reading his chats from the start and it’s 100% bait

astral wagon
#

Isn't that the name of a store?

clever cradle
#

No

ocean herald
indigo lotus
astral wagon
#

Yeah

clever cradle
#

That’s grody

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Spence is the man. He has the heavy weight title in halo sumo custom matches

hasty zinc
#

ok yeah it's bait

misty spindle
blazing cave
#

Halo livin goes hammer

clever cradle
#

No it’s

🎶 livin on halo time 🎶

ocean herald
clever cradle
#

You already know the song.

blazing cave
astral wagon
#

I'm about 50/50 on if this is worth engaging or not

clever cradle
indigo lotus
clever cradle
misty spindle
blazing cave
#

Is this a copypasta? lol

clever cradle
#

No dude. This is reality

vagrant kettle
#

Youtube shorts steals less brain cells than spalo time and hencer

misty spindle
#

cause idk what this can mean for some orgs that have a Halo team, but isn't in the Top 5 or partnered...

astral wagon
#

I'm just going to assume this guy has a huge crush on Spence whoever it is

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Like geo cities fan page level

clever cradle
misty spindle
hasty zinc
#

Spence is def in his top 8 for sure

balmy sundial
misty spindle
clever cradle
#

Spence participates in every single sumo custom match out there.

astral wagon
#

Time to use the really wonderful discord feature

balmy sundial
#

"But I don't wanna go to Dallas!"

indigo lotus
trim saddle
#

@steady jolt hero already won the emblem earlier today

clever cradle
#

Chill guys

broken coyote
#

Does master chef soda

clever cradle
#

Don’t ban me cause I love Spence

strange pollen
#

the community server browser for MCC is goated

broken coyote
#

Ouhhh the community

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The John halo community

strange pollen
#

when 343 made the move to move ALL the forge maps and modes from legacy versions of halo to MCC it really was the best thing that ever happened to halo since Bungie gave it up

trim saddle
strange pollen
#

nothing like hopping in the public server browser and being met with speed halo on omega slip n slide

strange pollen
#

I remember back before MCC got updated by the new team and you couldn't find a match in anything in some regions

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for a while the UK had a peak player count of 2 for matchmaking

empty salmon
#

Who won HWC?

astral wagon
#

Shopify

broken coyote
#

Halo

wind finch
#

new halo teaser looks booty

brave prairie
#

Add Brutes to the remake 😏

finite wagon
wind finch
#

when they said "reimagining" i didn't think they'd just tweak the original CE. i was expecting a complete rehash of the game from the ground up

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this just feels cheap

mellow yoke
#

This hero guy won earth unicorn 3 times, u guys should do a reroll

craggy bridge
wind finch
brave prairie
#

Wym by rehash

wind finch
#

those missions are long tho, why add 3 more for playtime?

blazing cave
wind finch
#

yeah, of silent cartographer

ocean herald
wind finch
#

yeah but that's not a reimagining, that's just tweaking

brave prairie
#

I don’t see them making library the same way. That mission is boring af

untold apex
#

Plus the games still got atleast a year before launch. A ton can change.

blazing cave
#

You gotta wait for the full game bud

craggy bridge
vagrant kettle
brave prairie
#

Silent Cartographer is perfect the way it is. So it’s good they didn’t change the layout of that mission

trim saddle
brave prairie
#

Library and whatever the snow mission is needs to be changed

wind finch
#

i was just expecting new story, maybe some new characters, and a completely original campaign, not this "copy my homework but don't make it obvious" game

ocean herald
ornate sequoia
#

Wasn't chief in cryosleep before Halo CE level 1?
How would there be Chief + Johnson missions?

brave prairie
#

If they changed the story of halo ce then it wouldn’t be halo ce

blazing cave
#

Coming to a conclusion of a remake after a 13min demo is insane brain power

brave prairie
pliant hatch
ornate sequoia
brave prairie
brave prairie
ocean herald
ornate sequoia
wind finch
#

yeah, i want to critisize adding the pure forms to ce because the flood evolved in halo 3 to have more forms. however, i am also curious if they will make new forms in later games

brave prairie
ornate sequoia
wind finch
blazing cave
ornate sequoia
craggy bridge
#

what did they use ai for in halo campaign evolve becuase i heard they used it?

ocean herald
wind finch
#

they were not space faring until they got onto the uncs frigate

#

that's a huge jump in evolution for the flood

blazing cave
wind finch
#

yeah they were stuck there. containment?

blazing cave
#

We see the events of alpha halo for the flood

On delta halo they were already in control of the ring

wind finch
#

two different flood outbursts

ornate sequoia
#

One thing that comes to mind when making flood more terrifying, flying elongated tentacles coming right at your hud...

blazing cave
brave prairie
#

They can do flood grunts and jackals in the remake

wind finch
#

no, they are not strong enough. they are food

ornate sequoia
wheat ridge
#

In 2025, everything is ragebait

wind finch
#

there are no blight stalkers in halo 3. there are stalker forms, but blight stalkers are a lore form

craggy bridge
#

Will they even market the new halo ce remake like other games?

brave prairie
ornate sequoia
wind finch
brave prairie
ocean herald
#

Speaking of flood, can you imagine the h3 butthole doors one day remade in UE5

wind finch
brave prairie
brave prairie
craggy bridge
#

unlikely

final valley
#

I got a hacker on sandtrap flying a elephant lol

ocean herald
#

Kinda don’t even want to think how the textures will look. The flood have like a skin/flesh type texture

wind finch
#

remastered wall sphincters when?

coral yoke
#

it's like the first thing you interact with

craggy bridge
#

hot take i think halo infinite was a banger

wind finch
#

i mean tbf, first playthrough i really liked the campaign. but it was kinda meh in concept

#

with how both hw2 and halo 5 legendary cutscenes went, we deserved something better constructed

craggy bridge
#

true

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why did they leave us on a cliffhanger

ocean herald
#

I think i prefer linear campaigns but did have fun with the open world

Wish they didn’t skip past all of the events between end of 5 and start of infinite. So much happened off screen and they got rid of almost all of the supporting cast from h4 & h5

wind finch
#

eh, it was semi open

#

some things were locked behind progress, like banshees and flying vehicles were not available at the start

#

the only thing an open world campaign did was let them have bigger easter eggs

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but then they went and removed some of them, which ruined the purpose of them being easter eggs

#

i think my main concern is that since they're basically selling us CE version 3, i'm afraid that halo studios is just going to follow in 343's footsteps. i don't want to be sold the same game twice, i want a full new game

ocean herald
#

What do you mean by new?

languid ridge
#

I hope Halo Fest is as cool as HaloWC has been

wind finch
#

halo is almost a 30 year franchise, and with this new company they just want to "play it safe" and give us something we already have with a different twist - but even that twist isn't very impactful.

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as an older halo fan, i wan something new new, not this old game wearing a new mask

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the banished, though was a 343 middle finger to bungie (as they loved to do), was a good new thing! everyone wanted more from the banished

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we also had several covenant splinter factions to explore

languid ridge
timber rover
#

So...we gonna do names like Halo CoE and Halo CaE?

wind finch
#

god i hope not. i'm just tired of seeing CE redone

languid ridge
wind finch
#

let the horse die already. make something new, be innovative

frank hinge
wind finch
languid ridge
#

15 when Campaign Evolved comes out

wind finch
frank hinge
#

let the sleeping gods die

wind finch
#

i'd rather a halo 3 remaster than a third combat evolved

languid ridge
timber rover
#

Do you think they should've dedicated their jump into Unreal 5 as a different game?

pallid isle
frank hinge
pallid isle
#

This is way better

wind finch
#

it will just be ce again

balmy sundial
pallid isle
craggy bridge
glad flower
languid ridge
timber rover
#

I'm somewhat not opposed to the remake. But at the same time, you just can't beat the original

jagged drum
#

Personally I would of left it to the fans to remake ce with modding, they had their time remaking it with CEA they flopped in my eyes but thats on them

wind finch
#

honestly, i'd rather them take their time with a game they're confident in than pushing out a remake

languid ridge
wind finch
#

like i'd sooner want playable elites and dual wielding back instead of this game

languid ridge
obsidian wyvern
frank hinge
#

pretty sure the remake's purpose is to introduce the playstation audience to halo....and money!!

jagged drum
wind finch
languid ridge
obsidian wyvern
#

what

wind finch
#

it's still slop! just look at the halloween event in infinite

vagrant kettle
#

😂

wind finch
#

they could have made flood models and made it actually cool, but all that gamemode did is make me want to play cod zombies

languid ridge
# obsidian wyvern what

People working on one game fills a role on that game, a role that is already filled on Halo 7. So they have two(or more) games in the works right now all with those roles filled, you take away one of those games, you now have redundant positions so less people would have a job.

timber rover
jagged drum
#

I think if they all focused on improving infinite after that work is done then go the ce remake.

obsidian wyvern
#

you are oversimplifying this lmfao

wind finch
#

halo infinite is a cursed platform

frank hinge
wind finch
#

just focus on the future

languid ridge
coral yoke
ocean herald
#

This remake is what CEA should have been

I’m on the side that thinks it’s unnecessary but it is a good way to branch out to a new audience, have the team(s) learn ue5, & you have the benefit of working on a tried & true game.

timber rover
#

But they have to have a plausable reason to remake it, though.

languid ridge
coral yoke
ocean herald
#

My personal preference would have been an MCC port though

wind finch
steel notch
wind finch
#

halo studios isn't only going to have to make new and actually good halo games, but they also have to compete with our rather picky community - and their dissatisfaction with 343

#

all this demo shows me is that they're being lazy about it

jagged drum
#

yeah but Im just wondering I know CEA was a bad in many ways but who really asked for it to be remade again?

languid ridge
wind finch
jagged drum
#

I dont mind sprint in halo but wrong to say its a requirement for the game to be good or playable.

wind finch
#

what 343 failed to do was deliver. time and time again

languid ridge
languid ridge
wind finch
coral yoke
wind finch
#

look at the launch of halo 2

timber rover
#

Why do people hate that they added sprint? I'm very curious because I don't have too much of a beef with it

wind finch
#

i don't hate sprint honestly, but it only changed the pace of the game

languid ridge
coral yoke
#

having rose-tinted glasses for the first games and all

languid ridge
timber rover
#

I figured it was pacing. The old games were meant to be ominous with action packed

#

That I understand

wind finch
coral yoke
languid ridge
misty marsh
# obsidian wyvern those teams couldve worked on the next halo so

Idk exactly what the studio employee capacity or organisational structure is but icybubba isnt completely off.
Allocating the CE remake team to focus on halo 7 if there's alr a halo 7 team would end up with a too many cooks spoil the broth situation and then lead to job redundancies.
Plus different projects obviously would have different completion lengths so it would make sense that the team allocated for CE remake finished faster than a potential halo 7 team.
But speaking from a business perspective, simply reallocating more teams onto the same project can become more of a detriment to a company and be unwise for profitability too

wind finch
#

it's why there's no warthog run

languid ridge
#

I don't believe theres been a single Halo game that wasn't rushed out the door. (Reach or Halo 4 maybe?)

timber rover
#

I just got into the franchise back in May and from playing MCC and Infinite on PC, I can see so many different kinds of gameplay mechanics

wind finch
#

kek

#

nono, the orgininal floorplans for reach was way too much for a reasonable game

#

and 4 isn't bungie anymore

serene pine
#

Halo!

wind finch
#

bungie wanted to give more to us than microsoft gave them time for, while 343 just kissed their shoes and blamed the community

languid ridge
wind finch
#

the focus changes

serene pine
#

Victor idk if you are here but in Firefight you dont have to Brute Hammer your teammates off of cliffs so you can get all the revivals and more points

languid ridge
# wind finch the focus changes

Well hopefully the focus at Halo studios is to actually put out a good game. Late Infinite dev cycle, that was probably the focus, talking post Chris Lee

#

They needed another year in the oven though

wind finch
#

i think 2026 is too ambitious for sure tho

#

i'd wait until 2030 to play a new halo game honestly

languid ridge
wind finch
languid ridge
#

Halo Studios interacts with us more than 343 did

wind finch
#

they made a game for them that they'd like, regardless of what the community was saying

hasty zinc
wind finch
#

true! studios is here for us so far!

coral yoke
#

that an infinite thing?

serene pine
#

Ye

timber rover
#

I'm holding on to the fact that Halo CaE will be good. The gameplay may be a little "too unreal-esque", but hopefully it's good enough to warrant a new original game

serene pine
#

Freakin guy launching us off the map so he can get more points , and then he ends up dying and losing for us all

languid ridge
hasty zinc
#

it is not possible for them to do what "we" want since it varies so much, there will always be a side that is disappointed no matter what they do

languid ridge
#

Halo 7 in probable 2027 is what I'm more concerned about, because that's completely new and likely has a multiplayer as well

languid ridge
wind finch
hasty zinc
wind finch
#

a reimagining should consist of an entirely new plot! sure maybe the same or similar characters, same halo ring, but they can change the map up if it's not faithful to the original series

languid ridge
#

And this isn't a reimagining

wind finch
#

the fact that the demo shows exactly what happens in both ce and ce anniverasry tells me they're just rehashing the same story with more content

timber rover
#

Developers don't just do what we want. There are so many applications that go into what and how they make games. Budget, deadlines, the right people in general.

Feedback does play a role, but I'm certain it doesn't control their entire game development.

craggy bridge
coral yoke
#

well yeah you gotta make sure that new plot is actually like good you know

languid ridge
wind finch
wind finch
#

both turned out terrible

languid ridge
hasty zinc
#

two completely different teams

wind finch
languid ridge
#

CEA didn't really have a multiplayer either. It was just Reach with CE maps

ocean herald
craggy bridge
wind finch
hasty zinc
#

lol

wind finch
#

while the tv show we didn't ask for went off and did us dirty

hasty zinc
#

armchair studio head

steel notch
wind finch
languid ridge
#

They actually did say remake in the press release

wind finch
craggy bridge
#

we can all agree we need better halo content and marketing

wheat marsh
languid ridge
cedar turret
#

I love the random conjecture people come up with.

hasty zinc
wheat marsh
cedar turret
#

It was all the ladybugs faults they made me drink the wine laced with licorice

wind finch
#

where is this 10 years coming from?

languid ridge
wind finch
#

wasn't infinite their attempt to save themselves and their careers?

hasty zinc
wind finch
#

i don't think 343 cared about the community or the games at all

languid ridge
wheat marsh
# wind finch where is this 10 years coming from?

Before infinite release they had a 10 year plan to work on the game and support it, but change in management threw that plan out the window, that’s why we are getting a new multiplayer game for 2026 (which will host hcs)

vernal storm
#

join disc

wind finch
vernal storm
#

play halo

wind finch
#

you lose 1 million social credit for that

cedar turret
hasty zinc
#

Halo 5 outsold Halo 3 in the first week

hasty zinc
wheat marsh
wind finch
#

yeah they say that for every halo game

hasty zinc
#

yeah they are the ones with the numbers lmao

wind finch
#

because they're banking on the success the franchise had in the past

faint mantle
#

FRIENDS

#

I HAD SO MUCH FUN

wind finch
languid ridge
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Let's also be honest here, Halo Infinite was successful too, asterisk being specifically at launch

faint mantle
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‼️ ‼️

hasty zinc
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I want all the pics Merty

wind finch
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if halo infinite was successful we'd still have 343

vagrant kettle
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You know what I like?
The halo tv show
Stay mad

hasty zinc
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I like it too

languid ridge
faint mantle
craggy bridge
wind finch
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Halo infinite is proof that fans don't have any idea what they want. Years of 'give us halo 3' and they get it and still whinge

hasty zinc
wind finch
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they failed to deliver on their promises and the game dropped significantly in profits

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even caused a court case

languid ridge
wind finch
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halo as a franchise isn't a sprint, it's a marathon (no pun intedned)

hasty zinc
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jc

severe flame
hasty zinc
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"chatGPT, give me a sentence to post in the Halo discord"

languid ridge
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Infinite made a lot of money. The only issue it has had is player retention

spice pilot
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meowdy from Seattle

wind finch
misty marsh
vagrant kettle
languid ridge
hasty zinc
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probably

wind finch
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bungie understood this. halo studios understands this

languid ridge
wind finch
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but 343? they were riding on fame they didn't earn

hasty zinc
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bro give it up

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fr

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good grief

faint mantle
clever mulch
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I’m new to this chat but anyone down for a few matches soon?🔜

languid ridge
spice pilot
hasty zinc
calm fiberBOT
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misty marsh
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Past two days I've just been seeing a whole lot of paraphrasing for "i dont like halo/xbox anymore and so therefore that absolutely must apply to the entire general audience and xbox/halo is dying"

severe flame
spice pilot
misty marsh
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When will it end 😔

hasty zinc
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people acting like 343/HS broke in and stole Halo and decided to make new games

ocean herald
languid ridge
vagrant kettle
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That Everyone ping woke up the mean people
My DMs went crazy with mean stuff because I liked the remake

wind finch
cedar turret
languid ridge
languid ridge
faint mantle
misty marsh
severe flame
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I am quite worried about all the layoffs at xbox/microsoft though, its definitely not reassuring

vagrant kettle
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Do people not realize that for 343 to buy halo, bungie sold halo?

wind finch
candid solar
languid ridge
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I mean what’s the point of the software if they won’t have the hardware for it? thinkingchief