general-chat

[cedar turret]

yes

[rare cedar]

As a kid, yea

[smoky token]

Sauce?

[fickle drift]

IS THIS GAME ON GAME PASS?

[cedar turret]

Alfredo

[smoky token]

Every halo is on GP

[fickle drift]

I mean as a standalone game or is it in MCC?

[smoky token]

Thats the TFOR animatic

[paper trellis]

we’re not gonna talk about how you guys took years of making chief a symbol of power and someone you play through and gave him a face. Bungie from the start didn’t do that, and you never followed up on that either so great storytelling, sam. Theres a reason Chief never showed his face

[smoky token]

looks like only MCC

[paper trellis]

im talking games not lore

[hasty zinc]

then just Halo 4 partial face

[dreamy stirrup]

i like how you say that like they're mutually exclusive or something

[fickle drift]

Coolь

[paper trellis]

they ARE. Theres a defining line between a First Person Shooter Game, and a series of books and a cheaply made animated movie. I thought you would have caught that, sam

[dreamy stirrup]

games are canon and lore based so idk what you're on about.

[smoky token]

They follow the same story, but sure

[dreamy stirrup]

feels like a fan should know this tbh.

[rare cedar]

He’s a Bungie Fan, not a Halo fan

[dreamy stirrup]

oh i see.

[paper trellis]

i know they are the same but theres a reason they never showed his face in the games

[hasty zinc]

they did though

[paper trellis]

you WERE the chief

[cedar turret]

No

[paper trellis]

Halo 4 doesnt count

[rare cedar]

There was an Easter egg in H3 beta that showed his face if you angled the camera right

[hasty zinc]

why not?

[hasty zinc]

that was Marcus Lehto for MP spartans

[elfin glacier]

Except even in the bungo games they gave chief a semblance of a personality

They wanted to have their cake and eat it too. Silent blank slate protag but also a character

[rare cedar]

It was me

[paper trellis]

im a Bungie Halo Fan. Back in my day games were made to be fun. Not money laundering machines that copied other money laundering machines i said all that like an old guy

[cedar turret]

If you even played ce your would know that chief is not a silent protagonist. He is not a player insert halo has two of those

[hasty zinc]

back in my day, lmfao

[dreamy stirrup]

if you don't have fun playing games, go touch grass

i still have fun with games

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten pelican]

ok

you dont have to play the game lol

[paper trellis]

but not as far as Kiki Wolfkill took it. “We need to give master chief an elevated love story, we need to show his FEELINGS. Master chief is human too”

[elfin glacier]

Back in your day, CE was meant to sell xboxes, while 2 was meant to drive xbl gold subscriptions, which was basically Microsoft monetizing multiplayer

[dreamy stirrup]

but if you're here just to complain about everything and try to mansplain Halo to me, you can just....not.

[rare cedar]

I even made a video about it

[smoky token]

It really does feel like some people don't know that you can play every mainline Halo game on Game Pass, or through MCC? And they are still populated too

[rare cedar]

https://youtu.be/o_UieDBpY7E

[paper trellis]

at least we didnt have to pay 20 bucks for the color blue

[smoky token]

I dont think XBL Gold existed until the 360, did it?

[hasty zinc]

you can't put quotes around a quote that was never said

[molten pelican]

baha he is mansplaining

[dreamy stirrup]

nah but i paid for maps i couldn't play on because others didn't buy map packs. so that was cool.

[elfin glacier]

You didn't have to since d1
cadet blue was always there

[dreamy stirrup]

loved wasting money like that

anyway

[paper trellis]

oh so im toxictly masculine now? Bruh you dont even know if im a girl

[dreamy stirrup]

let's all ignore him

[smoky token]

shill

[dreamy stirrup]

and look at the deer i saw on my run

i didn't even get them all in frame

[smoky token]

Nice

[molten pelican]

hey theres me!

[smoky token]

I think theres something like 200 dear per square mile in my town, per the last wildlife census

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-hunting-on-the-hunt-elmer-fudd-looney-tunes-gif-4712571

[dreamy stirrup]

😮

[cedar turret]

Venison for supper

[molten pelican]

im in VA and we got a crap ton

[smoky token]

They breed like rats

[dreamy stirrup]

no hunting the baby deer you guys!! omg lol

[molten pelican]

taste good too, especially the baby ones

[smoky token]

You are awful

[elfin glacier]

Only zoomers who slurp down moronic youtuber slop will actually believe the lie that "gAeMz uSeD 2 BeE maEd fOr fun!1!1!!!1!!"

Games always had to meet financial expectations. It was always a business

[molten pelican]

im jk I was once a baby deer until I grew up

[smoky token]

I have a newfound genuine hatred towards you

or is it genuine?

[dreamy stirrup]

i've now seen deer to go with the turtles, the fish, the hawks, bald eagles, and then weird eel/snake thing some bird clearly dropped on the trail.

[molten pelican]

its probably genuine and I respect that

[elfin glacier]

I've seen a deer IRL on the road

[smoky token]

lol

[cedar turret]

I had a friend who had a pig show up in his porch. A full larger than a couch pig. He kept it for eleven years till it died. He didn’t like the idea of a whole hog roast

[molten pelican]

free pig

nice

[elfin glacier]

It was kinda cool but i was worried it'd run into the road and get hit, so i scared it back into the forest

[dreamy stirrup]

a pig showed up

incredible.

[smoky token]

Living in an area with a lot of deer is expensive because they are incredibly stupid and everything everyone says about "deer being caught in headlights" is 110% true and they feel like hitting a brick wall

Leave dents in your car like hitting one too

[elfin glacier]

How'd Tom French get his pig anyways

[dreamy stirrup]

oh yeah. deer will 10000% give you a bad day

[dreamy stirrup]

IIRC he got her from a breeder.

[cedar turret]

Yep, just knew which house had a sucker for it to warn up too

[dreamy stirrup]

he takes her to the dog park lol

[elfin glacier]

Omg on a leash?

[smoky token]

Always have brights on and travelling 10 below the limit at night

[dreamy stirrup]

yeah he had her leashed. my dog didn't know what to do

[molten pelican]

especially on the parkway

[elfin glacier]

Omg do you have any pics???

[dreamy stirrup]

no

[elfin glacier]

😭

[dreamy stirrup]

i was too nervous because my dog was a hunting hound and i was half worried he would actually try to attack her

but she was bigger than him lol

[elfin glacier]

Pig on a leash what more could you ask for

[rare cedar]

Spider Pig

[dreamy stirrup]

he used to have Olive-cam during meetings sometimes 🙂

[molten pelican]

is it normal that my dog runs like a deer

[smoky token]

friend just sent me this 💀

[elfin glacier]

Dope

I wish my meetings were that exciting

[elfin glacier]

Rancid UI

[smoky token]

It was Dee who sent it

awful

[dreamy stirrup]

i just wish discord would stop sometimes D:

[smoky token]

I dont even care that the current UI is unoptomized as hell, its so so so so so much better than this new one

[dreamy stirrup]

i just wish they'd actually finish/polish a thing before yeeting out 9 new things

or small things like...if i have someone blocked, don't tell me there's new messages in a server if the blocked person sent them

[smoky token]

<-- average discord dev

[dreamy stirrup]

they are very nice people but i don't understand the ultimate process 😭

[elfin glacier]

I wonder if the new design is meant to pump engagement/interaction numbers. I know twitter UI was trending towards that...

[smoky token]

I've never met any personally but I'm mutual friends with a few

have mutual friends*

[elfin glacier]

It's all about metrics 😎

[smoky token]

Look where that got them

[dreamy stirrup]

they want me to set up the community page thing

[smoky token]

Doesnt matter at all unless... unless they start running ads...

😨

[dreamy stirrup]

but then they were like "anyone who is in the server, won't see anything until the refresh the client"

sounds delightful for 200k+ people

[smoky token]

https://tenor.com/view/lezduit-letsdoit-lessdoit-highonlife-gif-27282322

[dreamy stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/yolo-gif-5141575

[livid nova]

lezduit

[fickle drift]

How did you do this?

[fickle drift]

I mean, the layout

[smoky token]

Preview, I think

[short breach]

!fracture

oop. other f event

[calm fiber]

The FIREWALL event weeks are scheduled for the following dates:

Week 1: March 21-28
Week 2: April 11-18
Week 3: May 23-30
Week 4: June 13-20

Each week, players can unlock up to 10 tiers of their 20-tier Event Pass.

[short breach]

dang, i missed a week because of work

back to cod I go then

[copper meadow]

Hm

[frail walrus]

there are only 20 tiers. You can unlock the whole thing in just two weeks

don't need to play all 4

[obsidian wyvern]

I hope all their settings get reset

[dreamy stirrup]

Hey me too because then we'd have a repro on machines with data

[obsidian wyvern]

anything to fix this 🙏

[short breach]

oh yea

[fossil skiff]

Ngl I kind of miss the glitch where you would be out of a warthog on your end but still in it so you were driving but not driving

Never could figure out how to make it happen…it just sorta did

[smoky token]

I remember seeing that one but never did it myself

[fossil skiff]

It was freaky the first time it happened.

[faint mantle]

I did it last week after wrecking Icky

[short breach]

i love how the name is the exact opposite of the post

i custom paint mine

[fickle drift]

lol

[dreamy stirrup]

Yall

[obsidian wyvern]

should probably put spoilers on this

[dreamy stirrup]

Spoiler tags

Supremely uncool

@short breach @fickle drift

[smoky token]

:(

[dreamy stirrup]

Delete or spoiler tag

[short breach]

how you do this on mobile???

[dreamy stirrup]

Literally /spoiler

[smoky token]

||Spoilered text||

[dreamy stirrup]

Or that

[smoky token]

||Spoilered Text||

[dreamy stirrup]

I am incredibly upset

[short breach]

ummmm

[obsidian wyvern]

at the start*

[short breach]

it didnt work

[faint mantle]

The common decency rule is to spoiler anything that's less than a month old.

[faint mantle]

||Literally like this||

[short breach]

oh cmon sam, we fixed it. no need to send the bot police after me

[faint mantle]

It's, again, common decency. (And also a rule)

[fossil skiff]

Shame, shame, Iratus knows your name…

[vagrant sable]

And it shall not forget.

[elfin glacier]

Wait is it still not repro'd in house?
Asking as a compsci guy with an interest in development and bugfixing and such

[dreamy stirrup]

Nkpe

No repros on machines with claw or on QA/test machines

[smoky token]

Are there telemetry settings in Infinite for cases like this? Are there dev builds on in-studio machines with greater telemetry capabilities?

[viral dune]

He doesn't know that I'm the best halo 3 player tho

[dreamy stirrup]

They aren't hitting it lol

It's the same for the AI regression to Butlr

[elfin glacier]

like I don't want to say something that's probably obvious to the test people and such but like maybe it's some network thing where stuff networked internally on MS' network might not get the issue(s)?

[dreamy stirrup]

No one on the boxes or machines ia hitting it. On any build

We have test teams not onsite 🙂

[elfin glacier]

makes sense

[smoky token]

Weird, even I’ve had that issue

[elfin glacier]

but also that is really weird
also I've had the butlr issue but only starting S3... I think?

[dreamy stirrup]

Yeah but no one is hitting it in a way that they can get meaningful data from

Butlr is a launch bug. That's how elusive

[hazy nova]

"drawn and garden - kill enemy with pistol after switching immediately" where do i find pistol spawns.......?

[smoky token]

Hire me at 343, I’ll get you all the data on the bugs you need

[dreamy stirrup]

Looooool

[smoky token]

For real though my computer is cursed

https://xkcd.com/1316/

xkcd: Inexplicable

'It has a ghost in it. Take it back.' 'No.'

[dreamy stirrup]

My PC was giving me so many frames.

[elfin glacier]

meanwhile i've not had many issues at all since launch... though i feel like my performance has degraded slightly with S3?

[dreamy stirrup]

Me with Disney Dreamlight

[smoky token]

There’s an XKCD for everything

[elfin glacier]

Halo Infinite is definitely the most mysterious game I have played and I can only imagine how frustrating it is for everyone to try and nail down inconsistent bugs, the worst kind of bugs

[dreamy stirrup]

I very honestly need to tinker with pc settings but the level of apathy I have for that is so low

[forest lagoon]

I just blame "space weather"

[dreamy stirrup]

Then think about the range of hardware we have to build for

[smoky token]

Tinkering with settings has unironically been one of my favorite things to do since I built a PC

[elfin glacier]

at least if the bugs were 100% reproable that'd be one thing but trying to nail down weird bugs is insane

[dreamy stirrup]

Come do mine thanks

[dreamy stirrup]

As former QA I can confirm

[elfin glacier]

actually I can kinda imagine

[smoky token]

A Mario speed running world record was caused by a single electron in someone’s computer being moved by a solar flair

[dreamy stirrup]

I have a pretty good pc

[smoky token]

How does one get hired for QA anyways?

[dreamy stirrup]

I had to do some logic puzzles in my interview

To show I had show critical thinking skills

[forest lagoon]

You know what the best upgrade I did for my PC was? A separate USB3 host controller that gave me 4 extra ports in the back and didn't clog bandwidth from the other ports

[dreamy stirrup]

A what

That sounds useful

[smoky token]

I have one of those too

PCI Express baby

[forest lagoon]

I ran out of USB ports to use when I was setting up VR and I got frustrated having to unplug and replug ports between working and playing

[smoky token]

The thing was $110 though, should have just gotten a $30 extender honestly

[dreamy stirrup]

I like how I have spare USB ports but my work pc constantly yells at me about not enough USB resources. Like???

[smoky token]

Do you know what kind of motherboard you have

[dreamy stirrup]

Not offhand on my work one

[forest lagoon]

My USB card was a pci slot install

[dreamy stirrup]

That's a thing???

[smoky token]

It could be an issue with an old PCIe version and high bandwidth usage

Common on older motherboards

[smoky token]

PCI? Surely you mean PCIe?

[forest lagoon]

Yeah that

[vapid siren]

weird. afaik it triggers whenever i change any customization option

only for like 1 single match including any academy stuff

maybe 2 if im super unlucky

[forest lagoon]

It was a long time ago I did it and I assimilate most of my knowledge in a similar way the Flash does

[faint mantle]

Same with an election in Belgium

[dreamy stirrup]

They're kicking that around I think but still not hitting it lol

Because of course not

[night folio]

Wait is sam a 343 employe or i am getting crazy?

[fickle drift]

Sam can we get a Drivable Pelican in Forge for S4 please 🥲

[vapid siren]

isnt customization api based?

[forest lagoon]

Those aren't mutually exclusive but yes

[smoky token]

Sam is an employee of 343i, but she asks that you don’t ping her for things

If you have a moderation concern you can DM @bleak yoke, or if it’s an issue with the game, #halo-discussion, #1075989764026675210, and the halo support site all exist for that

[night folio]

Cool

[analog rivet]

I still remember when Sam was just one of forum moderators from the early waypoint days

How does it feel to step up into the Prophets floaty chair?

[civic iris]

[smoky token]

OH MY GOD

[obsidian solar]

Is it more accurate now tho?

[smoky token]

No, they don’t use the leaked info

Only publicly available stuff

Using leaked documents is, in the words of the War Thunder social media intern, “Turbo illegal”

[vapid siren]

again again?

[obsidian solar]

If I remember correctly again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again.

I think that is actually under shooting it

[rare cedar]

Geez 🤣

[eager mango]

Goodnight:)

[cold herald]

falcons in halo should use retardant

that should be an ability

[smoky token]

The fires are simply part of the health bar, so you know how damaged it is

They don’t actively hurt the health of the vehicle while on fire

[cold herald]

not in reach

[smoky token]

?

[cold herald]

Halo 3*

[cold herald]

in halo 3 it depends on your armor

[smoky token]

I don’t believe halo 3 had falcons

[cold herald]

it should also be a thing on hornets

[smoky token]

Why do you think so?

[cold herald]

I mean it doesn't matter on og halo 3 but in mcc i wanna be able to see my vehicle skin

Since Halo 3 doesn't have health for vehicles, you should be able to turn vehicle fires off

[faint mantle]

Pieces that fall off vehicles do count towards their health

[cold herald]

not really retardant but you get my point

[cold herald]

not in halo 3

[faint mantle]

It's only Combat Evolved that doesn't show health for vehicles in a visual way.

[smoky token]

Vehicles do have health, it’s just that the character will always die before vehicles die or at the same time the vehicle dies

[faint mantle]

You can definitely set a motor on fire on Halo 3.

@rare cedar can you?

[cold herald]

No, I mean vehicles depend on shields

[rare cedar]

Yea vehicles have health bars, persay

[smoky token]

^

[rare cedar]

You can shoot a vehicle and see their engines

[cold herald]

Huh, It still would be nice to have vehicle fires/part physics off.

[gaunt karma]

vehicles feel so weak in infinite compared to prevoius games

[cold herald]

not what i mean't

[cold herald]

yeah

[faint mantle]

It's never what you meant

[smoky token]

Counterpoint: Halo 4

[gaunt karma]

bro tryna start an argument

[cold herald]

It's because of the SFXs

[gaunt karma]

??? maybe i didnt play too much of halo four i never really liked it but i always thought they were good

[cold herald]

they were meh

[smoky token]

People joked for years about how weak 4’s vehicles were

[cold herald]

what i cant say the f word

[gaunt karma]

wasp espcially

[cold herald]

okay fine then

[smoky token]

This is a family friendly server

[cold herald]

halo is rated M

[smoky token]

Ok? Read the server rules

[gaunt karma]

also feel like there was some wasted potential with cehicles in infinite. like where the mantises at??? the infinity had mantises on it

[vapid siren]

and ironically enough you never hear anyone in halo games say it

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky token]

I swear there’s some marine dialogue

[vapid siren]

honestly idk

[cold herald]

STOP SWEARING

can i say the a word

[vapid siren]

apparently not

[analog rivet]

The biggest wasted potential with vehicles imo is not having any extra attachment pieces or like, any of the other vehicles, or for vehicles cores not having a classic model or skin

[smoky token]

Cool, if you want to swear then you can go there.

[vapid siren]

ok gents maybe like dont try and push the limits rn

anyways yeah its lookin like it was never really said

[cold herald]

can i say that?

[vapid siren]

ya done?

[analog rivet]

[gaunt karma]

🤓

[fickle drift]

[cold herald]

im just seeing what i can say

[rare cedar]

How about not swearing at all

[fickle drift]

Hmmmm

[gaunt karma]

they warned me for it watchout 🫡

[rapid pivot]

In Halo 2 (classic graphics because anniversary has no separate model for minor and major brutes) are brute minors the only ones that can spawn without a helmet?

Or that can be any rank?

And on ODST do the red drone captains only show up in firefight? Not campaign?

[smoky token]

I think there was one red drone in the campaign

Some sort of matriarch

[elfin glacier]

mimimimimimimimimimimimimimimi

[rapid pivot]

Are you thinking of the yellow one. The hiveward at the end of the hive section?

[smoky token]

Possibly

[rapid pivot]

The red captain rank is separate. It’s inbetween an ultra and the hiveward. And I think it’s only in firefight. Don’t think I’ve ever seen it in campaign.

[fickle drift]

I have a question to ask the gamers out there

Are you able to call a game one of your favorites, even if you haven't completed it yet?

[rich canopy]

Theres a possibility, yes.

[fickle drift]

This applies to me in the case of Metal Gear Solid V. I am nowhere near close to beating this game, I've only got approx. 10 hours on it. However, I absolutely love the gameplay and haven't even scratched the surface of what is possible

[fickle drift]

Interesting

[vivid sand]

Whats going on with the servers, is kicking me out in ranked i lost already 30 points

[fickle drift]

Fallout New Vegas
love it, but never actually finished it. Im really bad at finishing open world games, i get lost in the sidequests and scenery too easy

[civic iris]

RAT

[plain sleet]

star wars stuff is ridiculous to the point of a nova bomb not being a problem for the executors shields

what is the megaton yield of a nova bomb

the nova bomb is around 1,200,000,000 megatons?

the executor shields are supposedly 3.8e+26?

[vital loom]

Heya. What channel would I talk about Infinite?

Cause I kind of have a few choice words for one of the new maps you guys have this season. Not to be rude, but it's really... anti-fun and poorly designed.

And the worst part is, it shows up far too often.

I haven't seen Streets in a while, I almost never see Bazaar. About 60% of the time, I see that "One flag" map.

Salvation I believe it's called?

I mean, not to be rude but I would rather have played on Behemoth than on Salvation.

Well anyhow, I did have some legitimate criticisms about the map if anyone's willing to hear me out.

[cinder adder]

I would say why not try 1 flag on a btb map and put 2 flags directly in the middle of the map where the main middle gateway is and the 4 player deffence start in the middle ... 2 of each players of the others have no snipers and have to make there way to the middle ... maybe add two flags they have to get one to each side of the map ... gives the defense a chance to defend ... they can always get back 1 flag well the other is still in the middle ... and the defenders have a shroud sheild/blast.

And limit damb scorpions wraiths are harder to use

#ideas page?

Like this guy suggested

Doesn't have to be done just looked at and considered

[steady jolt]

If you have any constructive feedback around Infinite, feel free to create and tag a new post in #1039633978841374720

[fickle drift]

call em halftrash? Now the graphical and thematic design is quite neat and fits halo perfectly. But the "new" custom maps are horrible by mapdesign because you have a 50% chance of spawning right in front of an enemy, most likely someone whos already aiming in your direction. Happens a lot on Starboard and Vagabond, the first is just too open and the latter is a tight circle where you spawn and either have an enemy running behind you or in front of you. I had few cases where i was on the other side, aiming down a hall with my S7 only to see an enemy spawn right in my crosshair and i just had to pull the trigger.

[safe dawn]

sup

[fossil skiff]

Will it be pizza day? We shall see

[safe dawn]

wait what

[safe dawn]

explain yourself sir

[rotund hill]

My copies of halo 1,2 from Japan have arrived

[umbral halo]

Nice

[near tree]

There are pizza skins coming sometime this season

[hasty zinc]

@fossil skiff 14 MINUTES

[obsidian wyvern]

weird time

[hasty zinc]

largest rocket ever launched

[steady jolt]

Where's it streaming?

[forest lagoon]

Down by the creak

[steady jolt]

[hasty zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI

I'm so hyped right now

394 feet tall

taller than the statue of liberty INCLUDING the base

those engines are so beautiful

it's happening!

ugh

[balmy tundra]

Good job spacex employees

[hasty zinc]

omg yes!

this is stressing me out

HYPE

wooooooooow

[steady jolt]

wow

[hasty zinc]

uh oh

it's going a little kerbal there

oh yeah that's not good, should not be doing that

there's the rapid unscheduled disassembly

[steady jolt]

kablooey

[hasty zinc]

that liftoff was B-E-AUTIFUL

[floral pollen]

Hoi

[faint mantle]

Wait so it was supposed to blow up?

[hasty zinc]

no lol

well not during flight lol

[steady jolt]

That was really cool

[hasty zinc]

stage 1 and 2 were supposed to hard land in water after separation and partial orbital insertion near hawaii

[faint mantle]

Then why was there cheering?

[hasty zinc]

it was a great test, it cleared the pad

that is a momentous achievement

[faint mantle]

(Srry I don't watch rockets)

[steady jolt]

Huge win for the data they needed to collect

[hasty zinc]

absolutely

[faint mantle]

[steady jolt]

Just getting off the pad is always a monumental achievement

[faint mantle]

I forgot about that

[floral pollen]

As has already kinda been said, getting any rocket off the launch pad is always an achevement

[pulsar heron]

tldr they're cheering because it didnt explode on the ground :p

[floral pollen]

yep

[hasty zinc]

what a great start to my day

[floral pollen]

And ofc I missed it

[forest lagoon]

Keeping up momentum from yesterday's win!

Go Aegis!

[near tree]

You can always rewind, it's still cool to see

[floral pollen]

This is true

[near tree]

Yeah, that was cool to see

[hasty zinc]

that thing contains over 10 million pounds of fuel

[near tree]

So what happened to the rocket after the delayed disassembly? It still detached, so was it able to fly a bit, or did that massive explosion utterly destroy it?

[hasty zinc]

oh it's toast

it blew up either because of aerodynamic stress or spacex pressed the button to destroy it

[floral pollen]

Generally with any rocket explosion, the rocket becomes unusable

[floral pollen]

From the clips at the start, it looks unintentional

[near tree]

I couldn't tell if the rocket exploded, or if that was just built up energy from the thrusters being released quickly

[hasty zinc]

honestly orbit wasn't going to happen anyway, it was more of "can we get this thing off the ground" scenario as both the first and second stage were going to hard crash in the ocean anyway

the first stage was supposed to crash in the gulf of mexico and the second stage would have crashed 250ish miles off the hawaii coast

[faint mantle]

Dibs

[hasty zinc]

I didn't realize how close Boca Chica is to the mexican border

[floral pollen]

That frozen pressurization tube definitely would have been a problem

[near tree]

On the rocket?

Oh yeah, @hasty zinc
Did you have your interview then? How did it go?

[faint mantle]

Literally part of it

[hasty zinc]

I think it went really well!

[near tree]

Awesome!
Did you get the promotion?

Did you pass the capn crunch test?

[hasty zinc]

I won't know for a little bit

[molten pelican]

roket go fier luod niose boom fly fast up

[hasty zinc]

something like that I suppose

[molten pelican]

roket go over sky into far sky fly aruond

[near tree]

Not this time
Rocket go up fast, then go boom. Rocket come back down

[molten pelican]

roket com bac down?

[near tree]

Sploosh

[molten pelican]

roket ded?

[pearl hollow]

rokect boom

[floral pollen]

Yeh

[molten pelican]

rokect boom ded

[near tree]

Yeah, but it was just a test flight
They knew it wasn't going to get far, just wanted to know how well it'd fly and what they need to tweak

[molten pelican]

poepl sad

[hasty zinc]

the goal was to leave the pad, everything else was a bonus

[molten pelican]

poepl give big mony to rocect but ded happnd

[near tree]

Nah, most of them were excited
It was a decent test flight

[molten pelican]

pople hapy

[hasty zinc]

it lost 6 engines fairly quickly

[near tree]

Yeah, but the rocket is still in development, so it's not like it a wash

[leaden juniper]

NASA clapped these clowns way back in the 60's 😂

[smoky token]

Seems there was an “unscheduled disassembly”

[molten pelican]

Nasa superoir

[leaden juniper]

Engineer gaming

[molten pelican]

guess we were just more advanced in the 60s

hard decline in 2023

[leaden juniper]

Not certified by Von Braun 😤

[molten pelican]

father of space travel no here

only elon

unfortunatly

[leaden juniper]

Yeah, big money and an even bigger mouth

[molten pelican]

upside down smile too

von braun no have upside down smile

von braun normal smile

[leaden juniper]

Von Braun just build bro

[floral pollen]

I didn't even realize it was 4/20 today

[molten pelican]

420 good date tho

happy 4/20

maybe the rocket crashed bc elon was high

[hasty zinc]

tell me you know nothing about rockets without telling me you know nothing about rockets

[leaden juniper]

Yeah you're right the Saturn V was not a marvel of Engineering for the time

[hasty zinc]

I didn't say that it wasn't

[near tree]

No
They chose the date because they wanted the rocket to get high

[molten pelican]

elon you dog

[smoky token]

I’ll be excited about Artemis, I don’t see much of a future for SpaceX unless they are nationalized and integrated into NASA

[leaden juniper]

Yeah

[molten pelican]

not under elon lol

[leaden juniper]

Nah

[hasty zinc]

Saturn V was absolutely a marvel of engineering, but to say that "NASA clapped SpaceX back in the 60's" is pretty silly. These rockets can do things that NASA could only dream of back then. Esp with Starship having DOUBLE the thrust power of the Saturn V

sorry more than double, and is taller and has WAY more advanced things to it

compared to Saturn V a completely reusable first and second stage spaceship is insane

[fossil skiff]

Did someone really just believe SpaceX existed in the 60s or am I still waking up?

[hasty zinc]

you're still waking up

[leaden juniper]

Their frame can't take all that thrust apparently. That was von braun's entire approach when they figured out the crossbeam on the S4 was literally strong enough to slap another engine on there

[steady jolt]

Similar problems existed back in the 60's as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

[fossil skiff]

Also. SpaceX is pretty much dominating the market right now. And will continue to dominate they market as Ariane and Vulcan fall off to the side.

Vulcan was supposed to launch 2 years ago.

[molten pelican]

it was a joke lol

[molten pelican]

you're waking up goodmorning

[hasty zinc]

the frame can take the thrust, they had 6 engines flame out, the issue is also doing the flip, they just need to perfect it.

[molten pelican]

but rocect go boom no work

[fossil skiff]

I missed the launch sadly. Was in lab

[hasty zinc]

the saturn V test vehicles absolutely did explode

[molten pelican]

I cant mess around without being taken seriously😔

[hasty zinc]

dang, it was fantastic

[molten pelican]

missed it too but i dont keep up with it anyways

[vapid siren]

talkin about starship?

hows that goin today i heard the test was goin on

[hasty zinc]

also confirmed that it self destructed and did not structurally fail

[forest lagoon]

I made a thing this morning for celebration purposes

[molten pelican]

celebration of boom crash!!

[steady jolt]

And their new hit single out today - Rocket myself to sleep!

[forest lagoon]

Boom de crash, boom de crash de crash

[molten pelican]

lovely

[steady jolt]

Missed opportunity actually to have "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" playing before launch

[molten pelican]

heh

[vapid siren]

oh it exploded after liftoff? well... at least its unmanned... right?

[hasty zinc]

it self destructed but the whole purpose was to clear the pad and it did that very well

[molten pelican]

right...

[vapid siren]

[molten pelican]

we will never know

[forest lagoon]

An explosion would have cleared the pad as well

Just not intended

[vapid siren]

and a few other things to boot

[dreamy stirrup]

Wait does this work as a sticker

[forest lagoon]

It should, it's 250x250

[dreamy stirrup]

[molten pelican]

rocect go boom thats whats important

[vapid siren]

[forest lagoon]

Disclosure: If I post an emoji/gif, it's to be shared for others to enjoy and use as they see fit. It's why I don't put my tag on em

[molten pelican]

rick cooking up a paragraph

[solar light]

the fact that someone made walmart in halo 💀

anyone here seen it?

[forest lagoon]

It's one of my fav maps

[solar light]

ong

what is rick doin?

[molten pelican]

its so good lmao

[molten pelican]

cookin up a story about his life

[solar light]

ayo

what the rick doin'

[near oracle]

So I have a strange issue and I imagine it's scripting issue vs bug. But here it is

I have a bot that spawns on the team of a player who activates the condition. Works fine. In forge and custom games

I also have a multi team script for teams 3-8 (I tried with cobra and eagle also but failed to bring in bots when I had one player on each team) otherwise works fine on forge and custom games

The team setter takes affect on all no bot players, on game start and when players join. Works fine on forge and custom games

Problem is when a player joins in the custom game, the bots stop spawning in. Untill the game is restarted. It also appears to make the team setter stop working as well. As players start joining into the cobra and eagle teams which should be excluded. Certain ui scripts stop working also. And brains that are supposed to respawn after delete stop respawning ...

I tested it a lot and the player joining is for sure the issue.

I don't understand why it works in forge, and custom games untill someone joins

[solar light]

ah

[molten pelican]

KNEW IT

the amount of spaces its so organized

[steady jolt]

You're better posting that in #1039633978841374720 and adding some tags, it will get buried here in 5 minutes

[molten pelican]

yeah its a good question hope you get the answer rick

[vapid siren]

[leaden juniper]

Yo I suggest you join Forgehub they helped me out with some scripting stuff

[steady jolt]

Forgehub is also a good place

[leaden juniper]

Scripter's Guild is another one I'm in those boys are good too

[near oracle]

I'm on forgehub. I'm normally the guy giving advice and helping others. Most the people in our clan ask me to script the maps. I'll give it a shot cause I'm on day 4 or almost no progress

[near oracle]

Done 👍

[leaden juniper]

Which event you using

Er I'll go to the post hold on

[open badge]

Evening

[vital loom]

Heya. So, I was gonna say. Um

What happened to Bazaar? And also, what happened to Street? I never ever see them anymore 😦

[hasty zinc]

How Bazaar

[vapid siren]

any Elite Dangerous fans in chat

[vital loom]

Wow... That joke almost flew over my head

Seriously though, why are those maps gone?

I didn't mind Bazaar and that one new map is pretty bad.

[faint mantle]

What playlists have you been searching?

[open badge]

Here to remind you the flash is the best superhero

[late wyvern]

thanks Paul!

[open badge]

Np👍

[smoky token]

Which one

Wally or Barry

[fossil skiff]

Yes

[molten pelican]

yes

[zealous crag]

Hello, fellow t-baggers.

[hardy nymph]

Howdy

[fickle drift]

Oh nice, I love that game too

[hasty crystal]

Gonna be looking fir people to get into ranked with fun vibes good comms on xbox gamepass on pc 18+ of course im not new to halo just havent really played multiplayer since halo 3 and 4 really wanna get into a good team and get into ranked im on daily after work at 4 na west can even throw a couple rounds in the am before 10

[calm fiber]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[obsidian wyvern]

the way we got onto this page is so funny
https://twitter.com/technicalhalo/status/1648932204641153025?s=46&t=BoikIt357NUYA7BpEtlUuA

TechnicalFPS (@TechnicalHalo)

@halo_days_since Settings reset bug still no repro on test machines. Also what were they playtesting?

Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 6:10 AM

[hasty zinc]

oh no

I'm exposed

[obsidian wyvern]

I lowkey said the reset settings thing out of spite

but at least now I know why it hasn't been fixed

[hasty zinc]

smh rev

someone drive their xbox with the issue to 343

[leaden juniper]

I'm pretty sure it was xbox exclusive anyways are those machines using an Xbox runtime environment

[obsidian wyvern]

maybe you can't answer this, but have you guys also tried using xcloud? I don't really hear anyone have ALL their settings reset unless they're using it

[amber mirage]

Somebody's in here lurking and taking screenshots

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah I haven't caught them yet lol

[smoky token]

Look ma! I’m on TV!

[obsidian wyvern]

at least I looked presentable in there

[forest lagoon]

I wonder if a support person from 343 would want to video conference with someone that has the issue and has it repeatedly so it could be looked at happening"live"

[obsidian wyvern]

I would happily volunteer

[forest lagoon]

Same

[late spire]

So I just beat halo infinite (xbox app version pc) on LASO but I don't have the achievement, is that a bug or what?

[amber mirage]

I had the Butlr bug last time I played. I noticed it happened after I changed some customization for my armor. Maybe related.

[forest lagoon]

Almost every other time I boot up my settings reset. The sliders for the weapon offset are so slow to adjust on Xbox with controller

[hasty zinc]

and more people were exposed to Brutana so that's always a plus

[obsidian wyvern]

⬆️

how did i mess that up lol

[obsidian wyvern]

this is my biggest problem, my weapon offset and blur/screen shake settings take foreveeeer

[forest lagoon]

And the sound

[amber mirage]

I'm used to default settings, so this actually doesn't really do much for me. I think the only noticeable change was my subtitles were smaller than default.

[obsidian wyvern]

I can do all my settings blindly at this point

[late spire]

Well if there is no way to get he achievement besides trying to re-beat LASO i'm going to go cry now

[fickle drift]

[fair lion]

Get rekt

[hasty zinc]

idk what you're talking about

[fair lion]

I hope butlers voice lives with you forever

[hasty zinc]

I cant actually recall that bug happening to me

[fair lion]

I stopped getting settings reset but now I get butler

[obsidian wyvern]

lucky

[tight remnant]

Pretty sure it's tied to changing your customization

[obsidian wyvern]

I get it without customising

usually when not everything has loaded in, and I'm already in a match

[floral pollen]

I feel like Butlr is the AI we should actually be worried about, not Iratus

[calm fiber]

No! Fear me! I am Iratus, the great and terrible! I will bring about the destruction of all you humans!

[fickle drift]

Mid

[civic iris]

Shmid

[fickle drift]

Guys what's your favorite gun across the Halo games

[molten pelican]

good thing im not human

[frail walrus]

The MA5B

[molten pelican]

his suspicious accent, hes up to no good

[fickle drift]

That's gotta be my fav too

[balmy tundra]

The halo 1 magnum

[smoky token]

4D>

[fickle drift]

Halo CE had some awesome guns

That assault rifle was a bullet hose and I love it

[frail walrus]

It's sound is still one of my favorites, the CE AR

[frail walrus]

This, exactly why I love it too

[molten pelican]

never liked assault rifles in any of the games except infinite actually

[frail walrus]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

for days

[fickle drift]

Its hard for me to put it down because its so fun to use

[frail walrus]

I thought it was worthwhile to use against flood when paired with a shotgun

[balmy tundra]

I liked the one in CE, but infinites feels way better than an of the others

[fickle drift]

True, its great for that

[molten pelican]

I think my fav has to be h3 sniper rifle and shotgun

quick scoping in h3 was so much easier

[leaden juniper]

M395B DMR in terms of what I think is the most reliable for me in terms of gameplay consistency, but looks wise BR55 or M6D magnum

[fickle drift]

Ahh respectable choices

[molten pelican]

same CE was better then most but infinites is the best imo, super satisfying to use in close range

[molten pelican]

can never go wrong with it rly

[fickle drift]

Is that the Reach DMR? Pardon me, but I don't know the exact name for it

[leaden juniper]

Nah thays the h5 one

[balmy tundra]

Yeah, I feel like the AR has never had a place since CE, infinite fixed that

[fickle drift]

Gotcha

[frail walrus]

Halo 5's DMR is a close second for me, personally

man so many of Halo 5's weapons are excellent imo

[fickle drift]

Halo 5 had very underrated weaponry

[molten pelican]

personally love all of infinites guns except maybe one or two

h4 was hit or miss guns for me

[frail walrus]

Halo 5's SMG is rad too

sounds great

[leaden juniper]

AR was good in each halo imo

[fickle drift]

The sound effects, the feel, they were super crisp

[frail walrus]

big time

I am nostalgic for Halo 5 MP; really enjoyed it

[molten pelican]

smg were crisp i agree

[frail walrus]

in the Halo 5 beta, the SMG had the power of a Halo ring firing haha

it was so, so strong

[fickle drift]

Sadly I have only played a few matches since its hard to find people

what if noble six is bill gates

[leaden juniper]

I think the sound design of 5 was really good so it sucks when I hear they didn't just use the same warthog sounds, the one in infinite sounds so weak

[molten pelican]

h3 beam rifle tho

[fickle drift]

Sounds like a normal sedan lol

[leaden juniper]

Ikr

Yeah I love my ricer i4 with a mounted machine gun

[fickle drift]

My toyota corolla handles nicely when splattering jackals

[molten pelican]

halo infinite shotgun needs a tiny boost or is it just me

[molten pelican]

[leaden juniper]

Indeed lol

[molten pelican]

toyota corollas never die

[leaden juniper]

It's alright. I think the problem is the shotgun was kind of always a slow ROF but near instant kill so now it's faster rf but takes like 2-3 shots

[fickle drift]

I don't have a problem with the bulldog

[leaden juniper]

Yeah I think it's usable just a bit of a different usage case

[molten pelican]

yeah its not terrible but sometimes inconsistent depending on the situation

[civic iris]

Facts. I miss em

[normal compass]

loot boxes are epic

[balmy tundra]

Halo 5 had amazing gameplay

[leaden juniper]

The loot boxes was a bad system too, but I can't help but say I preferred it over the battle passes

[balmy tundra]

It had great lore implications on the tech side

[normal compass]

imagine next halo game but with csgo crates with a steam market

[leaden juniper]

Uh oh

Yeah gonna sell my flaming Mark V helmet for $7000

[smoky token]

How could you have preferred randomized loot boxes over a consistent and well defined battle pass system?

[normal compass]

blue skin for bandit rifle $11.22

[balmy tundra]

I mean, getting a similar don’t skin could take hundreds of dollars, but you also could earn literally everything by playing the game

It’s both better and worse

[leaden juniper]

Because in most games the loot boxes were set up so that the rate of acquisition was quicker than the battle pass system overall and the fact that in h5 you didn't have to spend a dime. In Halo infintie S1 alone there was $1000 worth of paid content in the store. In some games the loot boxes were done poorly like battlefront 2 and some on the wire of being nonsense like cod

[leaden juniper]

Both of them are terrible progression systems for the record absolutely

[smoky token]

How many different armour pieces did you use in Halo 5?

Or Reach?

[leaden juniper]

Well, in 5 you could only have a maximum of two choices plus a visor because of the amalgamation of all body pieces into one group, but ultimately I probably used a solid 1/5 of of like the 250 or whatever the maximum was? In Reach and 4 I would equip whatever I got basically when I got it

[balmy tundra]

I did the equip as I got them thing in 5. It was awesome

[leaden juniper]

Yeah. I think some designs like uh... seeker... were funny but most of them were quite good looking. I did end up settling on Noble for armour and EOD for helmet, though

[obsidian wyvern]

both lootboxes and this shop suck tbh

[leaden juniper]

Indeed

[leaden juniper]

Seeker user livecam

[smoky token]

Check the sticker name

[leaden juniper]

Hahaha didn't even notice

[obsidian wyvern]

LOL

[leaden juniper]

Frankly I have little interest in any armour core besides Mark 7 and 5b so there's that as well

[balmy tundra]

I liked most of the design concept, but seeker was held back by having the sensors besides the face being black

[leaden juniper]

Venator was one I rocked in h4 for a long time

Had to get like 1000 assassinations or something

[civic iris]

I think the loot boxes would've worked a lot better if the armor progression was earnable through challenges or in game currency, and everything else attainable through the lootboxes. But honestly I agree, lol. Could at least get almost everything without paying for it even if it took you a while

[civic iris]

It was definitely a lot of fun

[pulsar cobalt]

No we don't need another halo 5 req system it was bad

[civic iris]

It wasnt the best but it was better than having to pay for everything

@pulsar cobalt

[obsidian wyvern]

what

[pulsar cobalt]

i would rather pay then gamble

[civic iris]

Not gambling if you dont pay money tho

I dont like loot boxes dont get me wrong

[pulsar cobalt]

its still a gamble because your wasting your earned currency just to get crap

[versed spindle]

Where to buy?

[civic iris]

But h5 loot boxes were tolerable compared to other games in my opinion

[civic iris]

Thats all the in game currency was for tho lmao

[frail walrus]

this is art

[civic iris]

Albeit ik sometimes they did drop those special packs you needed 100k for so ill give you that

[civic iris]

@pulsar cobalt this is also what I was saying how it couldve been a lot better. Ik the way that it was wasnt the best.

[bold sparrow]

I wish games didnt take so much money to make these days.
Or that someone had realized "hey we can make more money off people via MTX" at some point...

[civic iris]

Gambling for armor was annoying a lot of the time. You had to do a tedious tactic buying out all the bronze stuff first, then silver, and then gold to get to the good stuff instead of always garbo

[smoky token]

Do they?

I guess $70 for a game is pretty egregious

[civic iris]

[tardy thistle]

Doubles as dubstep speaker

[leaden juniper]

I do not like using the lesser of two evils idea since we know what halo progression was like in reach and 4 but yeah

[civic iris]

If you ask me id rather pay the 70$ than do free to play nowadays

[smoky token]

I’d take F2P any day of the week

Unless it’s war Thunder

[bold sparrow]

Thats the explanation for MTXs existing and being so prevelant that I hear most, outside of "corporate capitalism standard" anyway

[civic iris]

Agreed. If they HAD to have lootboxes tho, thats how id hope it would be

[leaden juniper]

ye

[fickle drift]

Depends on the game for me

[leaden juniper]

I think at the very least if you buy the campaign you should get some battle passes

[fickle drift]

I don't buy games at full price though

[smoky token]

Do you have to pay though?

[fickle drift]

And I mostly play old stuff or indies

[smoky token]

There’s 0 reason to buy anything except the campaign in Infinite

[bold sparrow]

No, but I think the overall cost of game production HAS gone up over time so.

[smoky token]

Unless you really want to have that specific set of armour

[civic iris]

Very good point. Ig im just not a fan of being allowed to play a game for free but can't earn anything nice with in game effort without dropping money

H4 venator armor and H3 hayabusa armor were fantastic examples on how sick loot should be attainable for free in games. Not free, but not easy

[fickle drift]

I don't like f2p because everything thats stylish is locked behind a pay wall

[civic iris]

H5 did it too with that elite styled armor as well

[civic iris]

Big time agreeing on that

[leaden juniper]

Yeah there's no reason to do and I can guarantee you I'm not but when we're told a lot of the armour would be earnable in game and it has reach like customization i expect it to be built into the paid version of the game

[smoky token]

Neither of those statements were lies

[leaden juniper]

"a lot of the armour is earnable in game" I don't know fractionally what it is, but I'm pretty sure 90% of armour customization behind a paywall is not a lot of armour earnable in game

[fickle drift]

I guess there's those free events

[smoky token]

At that point it just depends on your definition of “a lot”

[pulsar cobalt]

Its mostly events where you can get free armour and weekly that's about it

[smoky token]

There’s plenty of stuff available through free versions of the battle pass, weekly ultimate rewards, and Fractures events

[fickle drift]

Gotta be honest though, I'm glad most popular mp games are free though

[smoky token]

Yeah, even got rid of the XBL Gold requirement for Infinite

[fickle drift]

They're more accessible to friends that way who don't want to buy big games

[fickle drift]

Big W

[copper meadow]

When will we get pizza

Being pizzaless is pain

[fickle drift]

Pizza time

[civic iris]

It hurts the playability a little bit in the process, even tho its free now and more accessible to play, you run out of things to do fairly quick when a lot of the content is purchasable instead of earnable. If someone doesnt want to spend money in infinite, there's a small fraction of content they can get compared to those who pay. Maybe im just being nostalgic to old games, but I just feel its too one sided

[fickle drift]

I completely agree with you on that

[balmy tundra]

Live service is a reality of modern game design forced on us by studios expecting unrealistic dates for the release of games

[civic iris]

It sucks

[forest lagoon]

I believe that's a designation of property. Commonly used for the placement of cars when not in use

[fickle drift]

Maybe I'm being silly too but I remember in apex, the only cosmetics you could get for free were locked behind lootboxes that you earned by leveling up.. and even then what you got was random

At least you can get some things for free in infinite but you really have to pay up to customize yourself to the fullest

[civic iris]

Thats just f2p in a nutshell, and id really just rather buy the game and have a lot to do instead, even if its grindy

[fickle drift]

Yup same for me

[civic iris]

I think Deep Rock Galactic has the perfect setup for content and working for it

[fickle drift]

I'm just not a fan of the model and I typically avoid it

Deep Rock Galactic is an amazing game though

[leaden juniper]

agree yep, it also turns from "wow cool skin/armour how did you get it" "i did x challenge/got to x level" to "i paid for it lol"

[civic iris]

In the top 5 games for me, so damn good

[fickle drift]

I would say as well it has the perfect setup for content even though the progression of the bp is rather slow

[civic iris]

Exactly there's so much more meaning to it and you actually feel proud for having it instead of "i spent my credi curd"

[civic iris]

It is slow I agree, but even when the battlepass is over, whatever you dont earn by the end of it is put into the loot drops into the game, they never get rid of content except maybe for the events but those always come back

Supreme setup

[fickle drift]

Overall its an excellent system

Not to mention it's great fun to play

[civic iris]

Word 🫡

[leaden juniper]

drg is rock solid yeah

[civic iris]

Hell I buy every type of content they release just to support them bc they deserve it for being awesome developers

And I dont feel bad about that at all. More developers need to learn from them, care about what their playerbase thinks and release great content without trying to rob them for it, and you'll get loyal fans

[civic iris]

Rock Solid 😎👌

[empty turret]

Live service has become a stain on the modern gaming industry when really it should have made gaming better

Nowadays its just an excuse to limit the consumer in a variety of ways generally which wasnt a thing in previous iterations.

[civic iris]

All 110% facts man

[empty turret]

Not to mention also releasing a game with little to no content

[copper meadow]

$60 with no customizations is wild

[civic iris]

Im tired of that too man. Thats why games like elden ring for example are so refreshing when they come out

[copper meadow]

I just don’t even pay for games anymore. If it’s not on game pass or a series I love I’m not willing to spend 60-80 on a game

[leaden juniper]

Absolutely. The battle pass and shop systems are a test. How much money can they make off of microtransactions. Part of me is not surprised that the Dollar Store accounted for 50% of all retail openings in the US last year because people are only willing to spend a few bucks at a time, sort of funny how the battle pass and store systems lines up with that trend in terms of revenue

[civic iris]

I would be right there with you but my group of friends always finds obscure but fun looking games so i still buy those too lol

[civic iris]

Thats a good point. Doesn't feel so bad when you're only spending a couple bucks. A couple bucks adds up without you noticing tho

[leaden juniper]

Of course, and that's how the microtransaction side of things grew so big. It's not particularly surprising that economic shrinking and inflating change people's spending habits, but the the dollar store equivalent in the games industry is exactly what demographic the store and pass systems appeal to and unfortunately over the course of two recessions and covid the middle class has mostly disappeared leaving the ultra rich and the poverty liners

[floral pollen]

I found this just now, and feel like it goes well with the events of today, this was 5 years ago too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ

[steady jolt]

That's actually a photo taken on Reach

[dark nova]

does anyone know if the aqua hex bundle is returning at all this season?

i’m dying for the white and black coating 🥲

[molten pelican]

these are fake, this is NOT aegisfate

[molten pelican]

taco bell restroom

[empty turret]

Ah another victim of FOMO, welcome. Fr though I wouldnt bet on it. The bundle was already shown twice iirc but who knows

[dark nova]

lmao

[hasty zinc]

Site Unseen event starts May 2nd, NICE!!

[molten pelican]

every modern video game should have a FOMO warning on the cover now

[dark nova]

well i see this place is for clowns

[molten pelican]

what

[empty turret]

Its even worse when they say beforehand there will be no FOMO in the game then switch up

[floral pollen]

I've barely heard of this event, but am exited for it

[empty turret]

Also 🤡

[molten pelican]

aquis you good bud

[molten pelican]

ive never heard of this event BUT IM SO PUMPED UP BRO

[empty turret]

Apparently we're clowns so 🤡

[steady jolt]

[floral pollen]

It was non-official, but I saw a vid of it yesterday I think

[molten pelican]

oh I meant jdox not aquis mb haha

jdox you good bud

[empty turret]

Ur clowning get it together

[molten pelican]

ik bro mb mb

[young nexus]

Good morning

[young nexus]

dies

[molten pelican]

good

[steady jolt]

Oh, they actually left lol

[floral pollen]

The timing of that was hilarious

[molten pelican]

gramps left?

[young nexus]

😳

[molten pelican]

gramps still here yay

[empty turret]

Go back to bed grandpa

[young nexus]

I just woke up aquis

Im thinking about not sweating in a game today

Guess im playing something else 😔

[empty turret]

Lol

[young nexus]

When casual feels just as competitive as competitive I think there’s a problem

It’s just that casual has less of a chance to have teammates that use microphones

[gilded grotto]

Real

[empty turret]

Yeah the game has been feeling pretty sweaty lately

[young nexus]

Only sweat.

[empty turret]

Maybe the casuals already moved on to other games 🤔

[young nexus]

I wonder why the player base is teetering on the same level of MCC(might be on to something here champ)

[young nexus]

I did. There’s not enough social features to justify the existing. I simply exist regardless.

no pre-or post game lobbies, gameplay that encourages mindless sweat over critical thinking and spatial awareness- I’ll cut myself off here, but a multitude of problems lead up to the same conclusion. PVP first over party game was a massive detriment to the longevity of the brand.

I’m just saying how it is. There is a distinct Lack of that halo energy that made halo such an addicting title to play.

My continued playing of the game is on life-support, because of my enjoyment from communicating and giving callouts. But it’s only a Band-Aid because of the complete lack of social or chill lobbies. I can’t pick what I want to play. Every playlist I pick is to avoid king of the hill, one flag, and oddball like the plague.

It’s not as fun as it could be and I’m tired of being trapped in tactical or team snipers when it’s in rotation

[leaden juniper]

It's sad, the gameplay is really good. I just don't feel incentivized to play it, and even if I owned the battle passes I doubt I would either. Only worthwhile rewards outside of the free passes come from competitive but that's just an emblem like bruh

[young nexus]

I only bought the first one out of courtesy. But the fact that the wacky armors are mixed in with the more grounded lore based armors- it completely devalues having the wacky and armor.

And heaven forbid the fun glitches that were pads down and campaign. Bungie bless their souls

[leaden juniper]

I frankly don't like any core besides mark 7 and mark 5b. I think i have like a total of 3 coatings? all of them were from promotional codes anyway, and I don't have a single piece of armour

[young nexus]

There were outright lies about that. Where’s the infinite customization. I get there was developmental sabotage with giving the go ahead of the barely functional duct-taped together limping mess that (is) was the game engine. But the fact that the shop was the one think that worked during the first flights was all but telling of the future of the game.

God im so frustrated

Does that have any influence on the state of the game?

And no, I’m just one of the ones that are left.

[leaden juniper]

think he was asking

[young nexus]

sad champ gif here

Oh sorry I thought you were calling me out or something my bad

Ahhh

[leaden juniper]

No i hear you brother. A shop system in that early of a stage is a yikes to be sure. We were told that a lot of the armour would be obtainable in game but I'm fairly certain around 90% of it is not. In season 1 alone there was $1000 worth of paid shop content alone

[empty turret]

Yeah there were lies.. As a person whos first Halo MP experience was Infinite, I can tell you I dont feel as excited or hopeful as a halo fan should be. I want to believe there will be so much more content in the future but I just dont know. The only thing keeping me playing is my love for the universe of Halo. Recently I played through Halo 2, 3, and ODST with a few of my friends and they are completely different games

[young nexus]

That’s perfectly fine stats. I never really focus on stats to begin with. It’s just about how much fun you enjoy playing the game.

[leaden juniper]

@young nexus @empty turret you two might be interested in this video if you haven't already seen it https://youtu.be/WwtSdqr60a8

[young nexus]

I’d recommend asking to dm us the link instead of posting in the general chat.

[leaden juniper]

oh is that not allowed

[empty turret]

I've seen so many videos on the current state of the game. I kinda wish I was one of the big Halo fans when Halo 3 came out but I was massively into Star wars

[young nexus]

Simply be a fan of halo three then. It’s not entirely 343’s fault. But it sure as hell is their mantle of responsibility.

[leaden juniper]

this one is a more economic perspective as to the state of the gaming industry and specifically halo in this one

[young nexus]

I think there’s also a point of the developmental path of the game to mention as well. It’s not just from the economy.

[empty turret]

Going through badass Halo 2 remastered to Halo 3 was a bit weird because of the graphical difference but was still fun considering I played most of the campaign as one of the swords of sanghelios in blue armor

Going through Halo 4 and Infinite soon

[leaden juniper]

oh for sure...ahaha...

[young nexus]

Chad halo 2 energy

[young nexus]

There were four different builds.

Four of them, during the development of halo infinite.

there was a lack of concise vision and oversight.

[leaden juniper]

yeah. they had like a few offshoots making like a few different versions of the game at the same time

[young nexus]

There were other motivations than just making a good product

And vital quality checks, or ignored to ship a product

[leaden juniper]

the contractor issue as well

[late spire]

So I heard that 343 is getting rid of the armor core thing for infinite, is that true or is someone pullin my leg?

[young nexus]

Leg pulling, i swore by accident when you brought that can of worms up mr goodfeels

[leaden juniper]

haghga

[young nexus]

I got the warning in my dm from the bot 💀

[empty turret]

I havent seen any indication of that but that would be great

[leaden juniper]

don't forget the slipstream and faber issues

[young nexus]

That is that, can we talk about the inability to have a functioning development due to constantly rotating temp workers for a second?

development was tumultuous. That’s my best guess of what happened

[bronze breach]

Or poor documentation of the slipspace engine

[empty turret]

Id imagine the communication between teams must be tough in that situation

[leaden juniper]

yep. tied right into faber as well due to 2 decade old code being buggy as heck

[smoky token]

Only thing that’s been officially stated is that cross-core is being implemented

[obsidian wyvern]

real aegisfate??

😱

[smoky token]

Aegisfate (real)

[young nexus]

And then having to relearn/learn a non-industry, standard engine, and then having to leave after you just get a handle onnit

[empty turret]

I thought we were going to eventually get an upgrade to Unreal Engine

[smoky token]

No engine is standard^

[bronze breach]

False rumours nothing been indicated that its moving to unreal

[young nexus]

Haven’t they only done visors so far?

[smoky token]

No idea

[obsidian wyvern]

aegis

[bronze breach]

Only visors been made cross core. Nothing 3lse been done so far

[young nexus]

I do have good things to say about the game I absolutely do. But come on there were expectations that we’re absolutely not met.

[civic iris]

Halo 2 is like the cleanest remaster ever man, if nothing else the cutscenes

[hasty zinc]

wait, what's happening lol

[smoky token]

Did you just 1337 the word “else”?

[empty turret]

Facts

[obsidian wyvern]

this was from before lol

[bronze breach]

Lol typo. I type fast on my phone lol

[young nexus]

A conversation

[civic iris]

Facts

[empty turret]

Def my favorite Halo so far it was soo good

[leaden juniper]

the blam engine was designed at a time when we did not have widespread use of unreal, idtech or unity either, so the adaptation to slipstream was unsurprisingly almost just going to be scrapped in favour of unreal

[young nexus]

That’s where the conversation started @hasty zinc

[obsidian wyvern]

one day we will complete this too

[empty turret]

Wtf is Halo Wars

Did i miss that lol

[leaden juniper]

rts halo game

[bronze breach]

Its takes skill to die alot in halo

[young nexus]

It takes skill to get overwhelmed by not reading enough information in time and repeatedly dying because of it.

[leaden juniper]

real, oh crap they got spnkr

[empty turret]

Repulse

[smoky token]

SPNKr takes no skill

[leaden juniper]

nah but map control to get spnkr does

[civic iris]

Damn man where you been lmao

[young nexus]

You’d be surprised. 😞

[civic iris]

They got 2 of those suckers

[empty turret]

I recently got into Halo

[civic iris]

Ahhh okay. You get a pass

You should fr check it out its got awesome cutscenes

[empty turret]

I will fs

[young nexus]

Good lore

[civic iris]

Halo Wars 2 cutscenes get me feelin

[civic iris]

That as well

So sad we didnt see red team in infinite thats one of the things I was hoping for most

That and Arbie comin back

[late spire]

Wish we got the flood back

[young nexus]

Halo four is an info dump. Five is “i hate lock and only played the master cheif levels”. And infinity waiting for the game to reach baseline.

[smoky token]

Blur Studios when they are the best 3D artists known to man

[leaden juniper]

halo wars is good but uh if you're just in it for the story especially in 2's case and you haven't played much rts games, do avoid the multiplayer. it is still very much colony/voridus gaming with a side of sgt johnson

[smoky token]

Isn’t red team still on the lesser Ark?

[young nexus]

I got to will myself to try RTS games. Might be fun

The video quality wasn’t particularly bad in any of the titles, but man there are definitely things to talk about

The sound design of the game play itself was pretty fun* with a few Points of contention.

(That’s in reference to all three of the games)

overall, they were definitely pretty good games.

[leaden juniper]

wait which are we talking about lol

[young nexus]

cough cough

343

[leaden juniper]

ah

yeah i like most of the sound design honestly but the warthog in infinite ain't it

[pale bramble]

Hall 4 campaign was good fr

[young nexus]

I don’t think they’re good halo games though is my feeling. There were parts of four that I liked. Screw lock. And infinite is heading in the right direction- but god so many mistakes

[young nexus]

I do want to acknowledge that there was a lot of passion that was still put into those titles, and there are absolutely a lot of good points in all three. But in the justification of a good “halo game”… it’s not at that 90% minimum Mark

[civic iris]

They are, but I wasnt sure how much time was going to pass between that and infinite so I thought it was a possibility, plus didnt professor Anders get slipspaced near zeta halo or somethin? I could be wrong its been a minute

If nothin else I hope that happens eventually. I think Red Team and the Spirit of Fire roster are really cool characters

[faint mantle]

@thorny glen you're in the cover! 👀

[young nexus]

That sounds like an amazing event for a season

Bro

[civic iris]

[weary hound]

[leaden juniper]

yeah, 4 had elements which were interesting story wise that weren't touched upon too much such as the spartan PTSD thing they hinted at, but the gameplay both in single player and multiplayer had some obvious inspiration from a particular competitor at the time. made the campaign's levels very linear with the rule of break 3 things to complete objective alongside ammunition deficit and annoying enemies, multiplayer had those infinity gamemodes and loadouts but it was solid if you didn't play those, and the customization was really good. I think 5 made some steps forward especially multiplayer wise but I didn't really think fighting warden eternal 7 times was a great idea, nor do I think some of the issues with enemies were solved and new ones were introduced in the form of req packs, but i had fun with that game overall. infinite is... it's a game i guess. i think the gameplay is phenomenal but for such a good baseline elements are simply just not present and the launch package was a bit underwhelming both in content and what we were told

[young nexus]

Absolutely astounding summary. And the launch package was not underwhelming. It was emaciated.

I get the feeling that they landed on the idea a bit too late in development and had to scramble during the last bit

[leaden juniper]

Yeah, to put it bluntly. wouldn't be surprised if that were the case because I imagine the game was reworked several times with the multiple builds going on

[young nexus]

The answer was right in front of them

Make a fun game.

literally the halo magic sprung fourth from that enjoyment

[leaden juniper]

yeah pretty much bungie's motto. well, old bungie that is. I want halo to succeed but i cannot help and look at it from a what once was perspective

[young nexus]

If it ain’t broke, reinvent it because we have to stay on top of marketable trends

[leaden juniper]

heh

[bright hound]

Yea seems like halo’s just kinda fallen behind a bit. For example it’s kinda weird that halo hasn’t hopped on the trend of fps games having a s&d gamemode when it’s so obviously popular for games like csgo, r6, cod and there’s no halo equivalent.

I really like infinite’s gameplay, much more than any other fps game. Just wish they had a more customizable playlist options, more maps, better progression system (weird how mcc has a much better system but wasn’t carried on)

[obsidian wyvern]

those games play completely differently to halo

I don't see how a search and destroy mode would work well in halo

[smoky token]

Halo is an arena shooter, kinda like quake, with a more vehicular focus

[young nexus]

Halo is halo and needed halo

But nah “safe” is good

[smoky token]

CSGO, R6, and Cod's S&D all are tactical shooters and/or modes

[leaden juniper]

yeah halo don't need s&d same way that halo didn't need infinity gamemodes and loadouts

[bright hound]

Right just saying there isn’t an equivalent. Stands out to me when I try to separate myself as a fan. You can stay true to the fans and not adapt but then you gotta just acknowledge that new audiences won’t hop on

[young nexus]

Halo is a specific title of that could stand on its own, but due to Faith issues it didn’t

[smoky token]

What?

[obsidian wyvern]

whst

[young nexus]

What?

[copper meadow]

Imagine if we had a skimmer dodging mode. That would be so fun

[young nexus]

You’re going to have to rephrase that statement again, and pass it through us one more time

[bright hound]

Oh mb what part is confusing

[leaden juniper]

no i get what he's saying

[young nexus]

Vaguely near the middle, half towards the end

Just expound you’re thinking a bit and make it more clear

You got to summarize it for us so we can understand how you think

[leaden juniper]

infinite broadened it's audiences by doing exactly what he said, but while it wasn't about gamemodes it was more about being free to play and having a battle pass

[young nexus]

It was about marketing and screw quality assurance 💀💀💀💀

[bronze breach]

Should also move on from Master Chief too.

[leaden juniper]

fr