halo-discussion

[solid canopy]

It was a simple quality of life feature

[gray crag]

do any games have that feature now or is it gone completely

[solid canopy]

I also liked how Reach allowed you to pick a specific player type to matchmake against

[gray crag]

i forgt about that haha that was an amazing feature as well. I remember just setting mine to find players with high mic usage and the lobbies would be insane. These little things bring life to the game

[solid canopy]

I do think Bungie's skill with designing and providing features that help build out their community like that was something lost in translation

Granted, they also had about a decades worth of steady growth and know-how

[plucky flicker]

I believe Campaign Evolved gameplay would certainly feel better if they changed the sprinting animation and sound design to be more closer to Halo 4 rather than Halo 5. That could make it look and feel more 'tactical' and 'heavy' rather than cartoon-y or eSports.

[quiet owl]

I just finished halo 3 (best campaign so far imo), should I go to 4 or ODST?

[civic sundial]

ODST first, it's a smaller story and while it doesn't connect to Halo 4 in any way, I recommend playing it first

[winged hazel]

chronologically odst starts after the mission "metropolis" in halo 2

[quiet owl]

Affirmative, thanks

[stray plover]

ODST

Halo 4 is the start of Halo decline and everything became gay since imo

[coarse dagger]

Not sure what you mean by "everything became gay", what a nonsensical statement to make. Don't use gay as an insult please, not cool

[cinder carbon]

who are u

[coarse dagger]

stckr

[cinder carbon]

how was that an insult

[sullen kiln]

For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @upbeat plover.

[stray plover]

this is not an insult to anyone, sorry if you got offended

[coarse dagger]

The statement itself is an insult in general, as you're using the term in an insulting manner. Gay is not a descriptor to be used for thigns you don't like, I'm sure you can find something else more suitable and constructive

[stray plover]

i precised "imo" for a reason, that's just my opinion and again sorry if you got offended i have nothing against gay ppl if that's what you understated

[coarse dagger]

It doesn't matter, don't use it here again

[celest heron]

it's a bit of a double edge sword. it'll let you see what's popular, but it also can make people avoid lower populated playlists.

[glacial tartan]

Nowadays it would be helpful to stop someone from sitting in a totally dead playlist though. You are right, cant really win either way. Look at everyone staring at a games playercounts the instant it launches

[rotund zenith]

the alternative is people coming into forums and elsewhere to ask what the queue times are and if there's actually people playing. OR you sit in queue for five minutes not know that all of 30 people are playing today. either way its a waste of time on the players end

also giving customers information about the server population in a multiplayer product is good business

if the game is currently in its heyday it doesnt really matter yeah

[celest heron]

I was speaking about in general, but yes, today it probly would help.

[glacial tartan]

The real fix would be making adjustments to playlists so they don’t stagnate / lose all of their population.

[shadow turret]

ODST is next in release order
But 4 is very fun too

[rotund zenith]

actually halo wars is next in release order, i banish you to prequel rts

[civic sundial]

Nah, Banished was the second Halo Wars, not the first. You gotta exile them

[swift radish]

ODST, its a more fun experience to play right after 3

[neat trellis]

so i have over 500 hours on halo infinite and i still manage to do awful in games like bad kd ratio, and im just asking myself all the time "how the hell do i do bad with so much experience?"
but then i also do amazing sometimes, but more times bad. its not that im bad at shooters, im great at shooters like call of duty, titanfall and warhammer 40k space marine 2 i play them all the time, but halo is weird
is it because of the sweaty playerbase or am i just a sore loser at halo?

im really confused at this point i cant even tell my skill

[glacial tartan]

@neat trellis If you are having whiplash back and forth like that I would assume you're in the average category, however as the population gets so low you're put into lobbies with players who are worse and better than you more often - if there were 1M+ people you'd see lobbies with players your skill more often and it would even out.

Playtime doesnt really tell us much. Would have to be X hours in competitive, etc. For all we know you're playing BTB only but struggling in 4v4, where the skills wouldnt directly transfer over.

With the state Halo is in its really tough to know for sure, particularly if you arent playing ranked and getting into roughly "fair" lobbies each time. Even that is tough with low pop as people make new accounts and things never really even out.

TLDR: Keep practicing, if you have to ask you aren't at the top of the skill curve, there's always more to learn. Reach out!

[brave gust]

The Falcon is a god send in btb

Especially when the Enemy Scorpion decides to camp out in a trench instead of next to the flag

[quiet owl]

Welp done that, H4 next I presume?

[brave gust]

Pulled 2 heist missions with a random guy back to back

[swift radish]

Yep

[brave gust]

How large is your Necrons army

[brazen linden]

js to say

halo is like my home

[winged hazel]

so the ratio between the damage your shields can take before disabling and the damage your flesh can take before you die. is that ever communicated?

like i've always assumed each segment of the bar in halo 1 represented 1 hp but the shield bar isn't segmented at all and that muddles things a lot

not to mention ghosts that you drive also have 8 hp but seem to tank a lot more damage than that

and then you get to halo reach and the player-controlled elites have 5 hp under their shields?

i can't help but come to the conclusion that i'm missing something important?

[neat trellis]

This helped me a lot, thank you very much🙏

[rotund zenith]

Uh count how many times youre shot before shields go down vs when you die. Thats pretty much it for ingame resources

[civic sundial]

The CE health bar is pretty misleading. Obviously you don't want to be on one bar of health but it's not 1hp when you have one bar left

[quiet owl]

Extremely small, just some deathmarks

My iron warriors and dark angels are my main collections

[brave gust]

I see. I have about 1400 points of my custom Space Marines

[quiet owl]

Nice

Coming up to a company of IVth legion, now I just need to paint some of them lol

[brave gust]

30k?

On my side I still have to paint a dreadnought and a Stormraven

[quiet owl]

Yeah, not such a fan of spikes lol

[quiet owl]

What type of dread?

[brave gust]

I mean you gotta admit Kravek and the new Defiler are awesome

[brave gust]

Brutalis. Thought my Redemptor needed a friend

And the idea of using a Stormraven to combat drop him onto people was too golden to pass up

[quiet owl]

Oh yeah, they’re excellent models, just not quite my taste

[quiet owl]

Pretty sure there’s some detachment that can deepstrike vehicles too, is that SM universal or chapter?

[brave gust]

Orbital Assault Force is for regular marines

I almost bought a Land Raider just to deep Strike it

[quiet owl]

Same

[brave gust]

But now on the plus side I can shove 10 intercessors and a Brutalis into a Stormraven and deepstrike that instead

Good talking with you man

[quiet owl]

U2

I love how many of my fandoms intersect with each other

[brave gust]

Well once you get into sci fi it bleeds into others

Star Wars, 40k, Halo, Battletech, Gundam,

[quiet owl]

Helldivers is also full of 40K fans

[brave gust]

That too

Prob also Fallout

[quiet owl]

I imagine it’s because HD2 is recent enough that it’s no one’s original hobby

[hushed nest]

hey guys. i don't wanna sound rude but is there any update on the new Halo Campaign Evolved?

[coarse dagger]

Any updates will get dropped into #announcements :)

[cunning oyster]

So I’m primarily a right stick aimer in Halo. Does left sticking aiming mean you just let your enemy strafe into your crosshair?

[winged hazel]

it just means the left stick controls the camera instead of the right

and consequently the right stick controls your movement

[shadow turret]

In a way, yes

[solid canopy]

TIL: the reason Truth's voice actor didn't return for Halo 3 is because Microsoft used his voice in a commercial(s?) and didn't notify him or pay him for it

Also that Halo 4 was supposed to go on way longer after Spartan Ops season 1 with Digital Extremes providing post-launch support but it was soon dropped causing Digital Extremes to go all in on Warframe

[waxen spire]

@shadow turret @fringe hedge this proves that warframe is terrible

[shadow turret]

Bro just hates peak 😔

[solid canopy]

Kind of a strange choice launching a live service you want to support for the foreseeable future on a system that is about to be replaced in a year

That might be why it was dropped, then again, Halo 4's population numbers dropped and Spartan Ops wasn't the big thing they wanted it to be

[half swan]

Ya'll I just beat Cairo Station on legendary on og xbox... man this is gonna take a long time lmao, this level alone took about an hour, but honestly I had a great time and I really had to use my resources wisely and think like a Spartan

[solid canopy]

Did Halo 4 launch with loadouts and perks exclusive to specific pre-order bonuses?

[glacial tartan]

https://www.halopedia.org/Template:Halo_4_preorder_bonuses

[solid canopy]

Then ig I'm just misremembering something

[solid canopy]

I wonder if Halo Studios is going to give up on Live Service models with Halo 7

Halo 4 fizzled out, Halo 5 did get plenty of support but it also released with the Infinity suite cut out, and Infinite also had a ton of scrapped plans paired with a live-service that failed to "wow"

[edgy willow]

I don't think they will.

They've tried it and it didn't seem to work. Not that people really liked it anyway.

I think bringing halo in a modern way to the new generations is a good call. Hence why I am excited for the CE remake

[solid canopy]

I can see Halo 7 having post launch support but just dropping any notion of a narrative thread or more ambitious plans like with 5's cut Infinity features and Infinite's road to the ring/Acadamy stuff

I am still "whelmed" by it

I am hoping that it is able to catch everybody off guard and be something really good, but I don't have a ton of hope it will be anything more than "solid"

Especially given the details from behind the scenes don't project much confidence

[edgy willow]

Fill me in

[solid canopy]

Xbox's leadership changes + quotes from devs talking about the team being unsure about the project + Glenn Israel's exit from the studio being sudden and apperantly not on good terms, ect.

(fyi Glenn Israel is an artist who has been with the series since ODST)

I've heard some murmurings about leadership issues but I can't speak much to them

[edgy willow]

Ah man 😭

[solid canopy]

I am still hoping the game turns out great and blows people away, but I am pretty skeptical

I am not really excited for it as I am with 5 or Infinite.

But who knows, maybe more details will come out and it'll impress

The biggest hurdle to the game is going to be winning over dedicated/longterm fans. Getting solid reviews is good, but if a ton of fan centiment is negative, that will trickle down to anybody interested in playing the game

[brittle hollow]

Is there any hope in sight for the lag in MCC online coop to be fixed? I'm in Asia and most people I found are from America but the lag is making the game unplayable

[swift prism]

is anyone here a hyper nerd about the halo game's soundtracks?

[waxen spire]

this is a better quesiton to ask in #1075989764026675210

[swift prism]

the reason i ask is because a friend of mine is looking for a very specific halo song that he swears exists, for context on the details of this situation

it contains the same "melodic passage" from 4:20 of "Special Delivery - Halo 3: ODST OST" (section in question) https://youtu.be/hD0t8rkp9Vk?t=260
it is somehow similar to "We are the desperate measures" from Odst as whenever he hears that song he swears that the previously mentioned brass section is about to play
it is sort of actiony and tense but not super bombastic
he also believes he first heard it... in a roblox game

he made a mockup i could send people in dms if that would help

[sturdy kernel]

Reminds the Reach or Halo 3 osts

[swift prism]

reach uses a lot of brass so i thought the same thing, but i am very bad at melodies so its hard for me to tell

we don't think its halo 3 since he played through it together and he can't remember the song playing at all in it

[lime forge]

Traffic Jam?

[swift prism]

this is exactly it, thank you my good sir

[quiet owl]

Is halo 7 something definitely coming out?

[swift prism]

i shall now leave this server

[lime forge]

🤗

[quiet owl]

Wow they weren’t joking

[quiet owl]

playing Midnight on halo 4 atm, and i am having flashbacks to MW2 with this crawl mechanic

[solid canopy]

Well it is either that or Halo ends

[compact marlin]

I don't think Halo is going to end, also Halo Studios is not going to win over OG Halo Fans, the Bungie Stands don't care about Halo, they just want to complain about how good Bungie was when Bungie really wasn't that good either

[lime forge]

And for what reason Bungie wasn't that good exactly?

[glacial tartan]

Bungie "Stands" are not the reason Infinite has less players than MCC, thats so one dimensional and the dishonesty wont help with whatever the next project is

That being said anyone who obsesses over either Studio is a bit wierd

[lime forge]

I don't think that really have to do with a studio in particular but how they were able to manage their game

[compact marlin]

Well, they couldn't stay consistent with how the rings worked when fired.

The lore kept changing like with the Forerunners.

Bungie bullied the studio that made Halo Wars.

Bungie did a retcon before 343 'ever did' by retconning the book of Reach.

They also intended to have sprint in Halo 2 but decided instead to force the player to take everything in when it should be up to the player.

Also, they didn't really want to make anymore Halo Games after 3 and wanted to abandon the Halo Fans for Destiny.

[lime forge]

If you look at how Halo bungie games, they did established a standard of some sort especially in term of content
Each games with more things

And then Halo fans except those content now

[lime forge]

All of those things doesn't really matter

[glacial tartan]

How were they able to maintain such a large, active playerbase? One that we are still chasing to come within an order of magnitude today

[compact marlin]

Because most people that played Halo were kids and although yes Campaign was apart of that, most people are talking about the MP when 'remembering the old days'. I think most kids got into Halo either due to they're older brother like me, watched RVB when they really shouldn't have been watching it, again like me, they're friend told them about it, or the Xbox they got happened to have had Halo 1 and 2 installed. Which my older brother had. Me and my twin played it cause the thumbnail of the game had a floating ring in space.

Given that we were Star Wars fans, we chose to try it, continued where our older brother left off which was on The Silent Cartographer, got lost when the doors locked and didn't know what to do so we created our own profiles, restarted the game from the start to understand what was going on. That's how most kids found Halo.

[lime forge]

Times were differents

Halo games were goods, and the best of the industry in some sort

Today that's not the only requirement, games need a lot more

Especially with so much lot other games in the market

And they need content, a lot, everytime

15 years ago Bungie sold Reach with
-Campaign, local coop campaign, Matchmaking campaign
-Firefight
-Forge mode
-Cinema Mode
-Multiplayer with tons of content and one of the best personnalisation system at the time and in the franchise

If a Halo Game like Infinite came tomorrow without those things again, well Halo fan aren't gonna understand

All those things came one by one with nearly each game of the saga until Reach which was like a ultimate Halo expérience with all that

Until 343i or Halo Studios or idk who don't understand that barely minimum Halo fan will complain

I'm not saying its good or bad i'm just saying that those things are expected by the Halo fans when buying a new game because Bungie established those like a standard for the franchise

That's what it is

And for the rest of the playerbase they need to have content ready for launch and post launch like any gaas has today
Again i'm.not saying that's a good thing but that's how things works now

[compact marlin]

Except, Halo isn't the only one with this problem. Every game does that and when those companies fix those mistakes the game is given another chance by fans and the devs are also given another chance, or you have other games that get all the content it can and become happy with it even if it could get a few more updates.

But when it comes to Bungie Stands that don't get what they want? Threaten the devs, threaten the other fans, complain about how they're never touching Halo again, still complain after, stop new fans from joining Halo and banish and hate anyone that doesn't agree with them. How is that fair?

[lime forge]

I don't really get what you're talking about with Bungie
Idk if that's something i'm not aware of or if you're exagerating

But anyway that doesn't matter today

[compact marlin]

I'm not, I'm being honest cause I've seen it happen and I've been a victim of it, just because I enjoy Halo for it's lore and story

Cause here's the thing: I used to agree with the Bungie Stands

[glacial tartan]

Rather than grapple with the fact that maybe these games have fundamental issues, it’s MUCH easier to simply blame anyone else

However, just like with Halo 4 and Halo 5 and MCC and now Infinite, Halo Studios has committed to learning from their last decade of missteps. So, we wait and see

[lime forge]

🤷🏻‍♂️

Who knows

[compact marlin]

Exactly, I'm not going to hate on a game until I try it for myself. First time I did that was with 4 and then I realized, Bungie Stands might be wrong. Now there were some things I liked about 5 and some things I didn't, and then Infinite. I will admit it had a bad launch, but it's in a better spot then it originally was: Perfect examples are Battlefront 2, Gotham Knights, Halo MCC and GTA Online

[glacial tartan]

"In a better spot than it originally was" for Halo 3 / Reach the Title Updates got their games to this spot extremely quickly, instead of YEARS into the games lifecycle.

MCC isnt a great example considering where it is

[compact marlin]

All games have hackers

[glacial tartan]

I am not describing the cheating situation (which in my mind is MAYBE one of MCCs larger problems, but definitely not the biggest)

It is a bit odd that Infinite was never able to generate a higher core playerbase. I wonder if 10 years from now it will have the same numbers

[compact marlin]

Even though Infinite is the second most played Halo Game?

[lime forge]

We're not really aware at what happened during dev time but the game didn't had a dev reboot at some Time ?

They game needed 1 or 2 more years of dev indeed

[glacial tartan]

Infinite should be dwarfing MCC, there's a reason its being "shelved" in a sense

[lime forge]

The lack of content at launch was really bad, i don't remember the first season, but the second one was like a year long that's crazy

[compact marlin]

Nope, cause all Bungie Stands care about are the Bungie Games

Then you have fans like me that care about all things Halo, not just the games

[lime forge]

They just want the équivalent of content and respect to the franchise

[compact marlin]

By harassing and threatening fans, the devs, stopping new fans from getting into the series and dictating whose a fan and who isn't?

[glacial tartan]

When H3 launched, Bungie acknowledged potential issues with BTB where 8v8 lobbies may fail. So they made the playlist 6v6 for two weeks, troubleshooted, and then updated it to 8v8 after bug fixing.

How long in Infinite did BTB simply not work at all?

Thats a tangible example 😄

[glacial tartan]

Nobody defends doing that. People doing that are weird and should be laughed at

[lime forge]

They let the BTB broken a whole month at least during the christmas period

[lime forge]

And i don't think that's a Bungie global issue

[compact marlin]

Infinite is being worked on by a skeleton crew, also almost every Bungie Stand I met has done that to me

[lime forge]

But i'm maybe wrong

[glacial tartan]

It wasnt always

[compact marlin]

Slipspace engine was an issue and so was having contractors which was Bonnie Ross' doing

[lime forge]

Contractors is the way the game industry work atm

[glacial tartan]

Every single major developer uses contractors in a similar fashion

[lime forge]

I also don't think contractors are a good idea but the whole industry work like that

[compact marlin]

Yeah, but if you are going to do a Live Service game with an engine that you created, hired full time is better then contractors, now with UE5, it will be a lot easier

[lime forge]

I'm not sure if that will be that easier

[glacial tartan]

Out of curiosity, do you have a background in project management or game development? lol

Empty statements like "it will be a lot easier" dont get you very far

[compact marlin]

No, but I've seen it in action on YouTube and watched videos on devs creating games, something I never will be able to do due to my disabilities

[glacial tartan]

Lets agree to let experts in the field handle that side of the business, and engage with the side you have expertise in (being a customer).

As a customer, Infinites experience was lacking - there may be a million reasons why, and they've been beaten to death here over the years. So, we hope they learn and we'll see

[lime forge]

UE can allow a lot of question regarding if that could be a viable option to a big Gaas multiplayer games
Aside Of Apex and Fortnite i think idk if there a lot of successfull and well managed UE multiplayer games

Slipspace engine was surely a issue for Infinite dev but are they really gonna drop and trash so much money invested in it?
Like we're talking about Xbox and Microsoft they don't have people who can work with it or make it work better idk?

That's seems crazy to me

And now they will move along with the franchise and use a tier engine that's seems a pretty bad idea on some levels

[coarse dagger]

They had people working over Christmas to fix it. The first patch unfortunately failed to fix it properly, so had to spend some additional time preparing an additional fix

[lime forge]

Anyway aside Of that the BTB globally had some issues during a lot of time

I don't think 343i understood so well the importance of the BTB in the franchise and how to handle it properly

Since all those years

They focus too much on arena and they left aside the BTB so much month during Infinite lifetime
I don't remember how much Time we wait for a new BTB map or new BTB content

[civic sundial]

Season 2 launched with a BTB map, that was 3 months after launch

[coarse dagger]

They were definitely aware of the importance, but had to prioritize other features and fixes first.
None of the issues with BTB were apparent during testing I took part in before launch, it was only around campaign launching they started to show. That caused a bunch of things to be pushed back

[lime forge]

Indeed and after that we wait to have others ones and seeing news maps for arena again and again

[glacial tartan]

I am hoping we never see that amount of crashes at LAN again

[lime forge]

Some issues seems really obvious at the time, some as simple as have the same véhicules spawn for each team for some equity in the games..

Anyway i'm not only refering to Halo Infinite, the culmination of that was Halo 5 where there was no BTB at launch

They tend since many years to focus a lot more on arena and especially on the pro players and pro aspects

I understand that that's an important part of the game who bring a lot but i'm tired that those people dictact how the game and the weapons need to work

[shadow turret]

Honestly what I wish they would do sometimes is, like the BR in Infinite, make a "Ranked" variant of the weapon that's changed for more comp-focused weapon updates, rather than the base version (even tho I think the Ranked BR was ever touched separately, but)

And as a vague side thought, I'd either like the Bandit EVO, or an actual DMR to be the only type of that weapon
Bc the normal Bandit just feels weird to me, and it seems redundant to have the same weapon with no scope and (imo) a weird reticle, when the EVO exists too

[civic sundial]

I think one of the Bandits also has an ever so slightly faster fire rate as well

[lime forge]

I hate the bandit

He feels off
Especially from afar

[left snow]

Which is part of its job description.

The BR was too good at distance. So the Bandit isn't supposed to be.

[lime forge]

A DMR no effective from distance

That's interesting

[short flower]

Apparently quite the bumpy ride through brigadier general so far. 91k to go for grade 3.

[craggy onyx]

Every time I think I'm getting good at halo I play slayer with my cousin and I lose

Also I found a weird bug on the original version of halo 3 where if you jump into a rock in the first mission you just die

[glacial tartan]

Kill barriers, it’s not a bug it’s just a painful ceiling drawn in the wrong place

[craggy onyx]

Ohhh makes sense

[solid canopy]

Me playing the H3 2v2 ranked playlist

"Oh that is the feeling of me wanting to smash my skull into the wall as the deafening sense of mediocrity looms over me. Haven't felt that in a while"

[left snow]

It's better than "not effective".

I think it does pretty well in filling the role of a starting weapon.

It feels a lot like the Halo 5 magnum.

But you are right. It's a little light on effective range for a "DMR". And I think the initial description was along the lines of it being a DMR that was tailored for mid range combat.

Personally I would have just given us all magnums. But I guess they went a different was with the pistol in Infinite

[craggy onyx]

Halo 4 and really all the 343 industries games are in like a weird state of limbo to me where like they didn't really need to exist but I can't imagine a world where they don't, anyone else?

[uneven bison]

Honestly yeah I see it

It’s the permanence of them setting in I think

[smoky stone]

I think there were far too many changes with the utility starting weapons.

Every Halo game since Halo 2 (because for whatever reason they decided to ditch the concept of a starting utility weapon) has always been designed around whatever the starting weapon is for that game.

[smoky stone]

Ugh, I hate how it feels like there's a cut off time where the population in MCC playing ranked just goes offline for the day, it's right now.

[solid canopy]

damn. I'm so close to beating the "Real MVP" challenge for this rotation

sucks that H3 Team Slayer and H3 2v2 are the only ones I can find a game for

I hope that Halo 4 Squad Battle and Invasion will be active again soon

[glacial tartan]

These challenges should be PLAY not Win

(That’s a suggestion I’ve had for changing that challenge. A lot of people don’t even bother waiting for a game because if they don’t win it feels like a waste)

[solid canopy]

Wouldn't be a terrible idea but 25 games isn't a massive amount of matches

The issue is that there are only two active playlists and one of them isn't particularly forgiving

and wait times aren't especially low compared to social playlists

[glacial tartan]

Widen the skill ranges to find games, while making the challenge play instead of win. Incentivize more people into the playlist, and make it more likely to find games.

It’s not an impossible problem but yeah, as -is it suffers

[solid canopy]

I miss how Halo Reach had a dedicated Co-Op playlist in matchmaking

If they ever make cross-play viable, I think they should include that in MCC

[old flower]

can't you already have crossplay

[glacial tartan]

For campaign cross play is only for H3 / ODST.

[celest heron]

Not worth it imo for only two spartan points and around 3 games of xp.

[quiet owl]

what is a series? i was looking at Reach customisation and it said some helmets were unlocked by completing "SERIES 1"

nvm found it

[quiet owl]

so what happened to Jun? is he the last surviving member of Noble?

[civic sundial]

Rosenda lives too

And Jun retired from active duty to serve as a recruiter and trainer for the Spartan IVs

He has since returned to active duty post the events of Halo 5

[solid canopy]

I kind of wish we ran into Jun in Halo 4

I know it would be pointless or overly indulgent fan-service, but damn it, it would be cool.

We'd get a familiar face (for the player not Chief), some closure on his whereabouts post-Reach for fans not clued into the EU, also I could see Palmer's "I thought you'd be taller"' line coming off funnier in the context of Jun saying it.

[spice quest]

He got a suit and an office job, fought an Insurrectionist in space without a suit, was exposed to the vacuum again when his AI helper Leonidas turned traitor, and he also shot a Banshee in what didn't seem like a very difficult shot at the Avery Johnson Academy.

[quiet owl]

Nice, glad my favourite Spartan got out

I shouldn’t have played alone wolf when I was so tired lol, didn’t last very long

[solid canopy]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y0KZPLtsbSU

@plucky flicker I was listening to this and I realized how well it fit as a musical journey through the chronological history of the Halo universe

The etherial vocals at the start signifying the Precursors' at the most ancient era of the Galaxy, and the dawn of the Forerunners and Ancient Humanity and the seeds for what would set off Halo's entire narrative. Then as the vocals go on and shift in tone we arrive at the Forerunners' multiple wars and the Flood's near total victory. Then the vocals vanish with the Forerunners as the Halo rings are set off, the Galaxy slowly rebuilds itself with a newfound hope as the trumpets come in. Life rises from the ground and entire civilizations take to the stars, signified by the strings that begin to swell at around 2:30. That portion weaves its way into the human-covenant war and the height of that conflict before all that is canceled out as the notes from One Final Effort play. These notes put the focus on Chief and his significance as "Reclaimer", the culmimation of everything that has happened and ultimately, the wielder of mankind's destiny. Rather than a defintive conclusion, the song ends on an ambiguous note as said destiny is still in flux

[wanton walrus]

can ODSTs customise their armour like spartans can

[solid canopy]

Yes

Look at how Alpha Nine each has different gear

[short flower]

DOWN IN FRONT!

[short flower]

One more match to be under 100k left for General…

120,349 earned currently.

[short flower]

There we go.

130,549 earned, 94,451 to go.

Enemies too overpowering on Base from Kusini Bay? You’re forced to give up hill 5 if Base is H5. Game is evil if it gives you Base as the last one.

[quiet owl]

By my estimate you’re at around 145K now?

[short flower]

94k to go out of 225k.

[quiet owl]

Ah alright

[short flower]

For General.

[quiet owl]

I was going by 10200 every 18 minutes

[short flower]

126,075 earned just tonight alone.

I auto-earned 4,474 promoting to brigadier 3 due to a small boost getting a 10k score from that promotion match.

[plucky flicker]

Well extrapolated/interpreted!

[solid canopy]

"Atonement" also reffers to how humanity's status as "Reclaimer" is the Forerunners' way of atoning for their colossal failure

[plucky flicker]

Have you heard the version in Osiris Suite, Act 4 from Halo 5?

In that Kazuma Jinnouchi puts the Halo Theme as counterpoint agaisnt the Atonement vocals.

[solid canopy]

Yeah I was listening to it last night

I jotted down some thoughts on it elsewhere lemmie find them rq

Yeah there is that trademark Halo 5 string section going full throttle every so often, but then you get moments in this suite that really show off the range and varity Jinnouchi could work with

That bit where the female choir of Halo 4 and the male choir of the traditonal Halo theme join together is incredible. And the fact that it kicks in at 1:17 is such a cheeky thing to do

Or 5:40 where they bring in some new instraments to the series which creates a really cool feeling

That bit at around 2:05 is just classic Halo wonder

[plucky flicker]

There are multiple instances of 1:17 in Kazuma Jinnouchi's works, I think.

I get a bit upset when seeing people say Halo 4's choir was 'generic'. First, SATB is the standard western choir, and it has been like that for well over 400 years. Saying that is 'generic' means nothing, especially since Neil Davidge did use actual lyrics (even if their meaning is unknown). Besides that, the defining vocal moments — such as Legacy, and Atonement — were done by Bulgarian Folk Choir, which is anything but generic.

[solid canopy]

Yeah that is probably the least "generic" thing about those soundtracks

[solid canopy]

I know that "The Trials" does it when the horns from 117 comes on

[plucky flicker]

Blue Team and Wreckage comes to mind.

[plucky flicker]

If you really want to point at something, perhaps you could say the percussion was a bit Zimmer-like. However, I have heard enough of disingenuous 'Halo music is percussive, Halo 4 doesn't have that' comments, I don't think the quality of the percussion would be their concern. Halo Infinite, despite the 'tribal percussion' is very much contemporary film-like in its percussion, so I don't think Halo fans actually recognise these patters. I would most of Davidge's percussion were unique enough to offset the more 'standard' additions.

@solid canopy If you want to hear a more acoustic or non-processed sound of some pieces, I'd recommend this album: https://open.spotify.com/track/3j86vIJO9ILHOWCy3RQp2u?si=BVdYVOwGSrWY_BMtT_nmuA

[vernal dawn]

There are people ddos'ing Halo MCC CGB lobbies, is there anything we can do to get Halo Studios patch it?

[solid canopy]

Very good stuff (ugly ai cover art aside)

[glacial tartan]

We’ve been complaining about it for a few years, not sure what else we can do tbh

I’ll believe cheating is being taken seriously (proactively) when the Reach CGB is cleaned up. It’s the Wild West

[short flower]

5,275 on Vallaheim, coulda been better if my teammates could actually be smarter and quit dying.

1 skull match. Ain’t my fault.

[viral rose]

just started halo 4 and i dont understand why this gets so much hate tbh

[devout valve]

I love being spammed with hold x to activate this button.

[viral rose]

its e for me and I couldn't care less tbh. for everything it does better that ive seen in the few missions ive done so far, it feels like a doom game with dialogue and im loving it lmao

[sturdy kernel]

Same here

[tranquil lintel]

ngl i loved it but the reason it gets hate is probably coz first half is creating a problem and second half is fixing it.
i loved every halo game except infinite

[plucky flicker]

That's the one that really kept bothering me.

[solid canopy]

The only things I find particullarly "generic" about the soundtracks in Halo 4 and Halo 5 is how they can very occasionally lean into more Star Wars-ish blockbuster territory

The Didact's ship arriving at Ivanoff Station at the start of Composer comes to mind

But 4 and 5's OSTs both have a ton of inventive, emotional, and unique tracks to them that I know that isn't the case

[short flower]

13,991 til General.

I’d need a 6085 match to snipe that requirement.

[solid canopy]

Hell, even when Halo 5's OST leans too heavily into the overly bombastic "full throttle" sound with its string section, there is still some creative stuff Kazuma Jinnouchi is creating

[solid canopy]

"Covenant Prayers" is a good example of this

[sturdy kernel]

98 matches until Hero

[short flower]

oh!!!

still need another match until general omg lol. 1881 to go

Just got a 5265

gonna get a head start into general

nvm… just barely…

omg the 3k scores at least I stayed alive

[plucky flicker]

Covenant Prayer is inspired.

[plucky flicker]

I wouldn't consider Star Wars-like sound to be generic. In Halo 4, they were done tastefully.

Besides that, there is actually a Star Wars-like Halo soundtrack — Halo Wars 2. It was composed by Gordy Haab, who's essentially the John Williams of videogames through his Star Wars game scores. Not only that, he himself said in an interview that he was working on Star Wars and Halo Wars (pun?) at the same time and he used ideas interchangeably.

[solid canopy]

I agree, but I also believe that it could use a little something extra

Like make use of the chanting choir or that organ from Revival

[plucky flicker]

That is literally the first and last time Organ was used in Halo, and it was for a single chord!

[plucky flicker]

I think choir not being part of every track actually makes the use of choir more impactful.

[solid canopy]

I'm just using some examples

Even then, moments like that are the exception and not the rule in Halo 4's ost

[lost trellis]

One of my favorite details of Halo 2 that literally nothing has even come close to since is when the Arbiter confronts Tartarus at the final mission and the camera angle hangs low to the floor so you can see that he doesn't have his weapon raised. Thel could easily just blow his head off without anyone noticing but the gun down shows how he's changed, how he's trying to save his former enemy and wants to know the truth from GS. It's just such a good detail from such a small moment. He's no longer the warmongering general from the 1st scenes and that's neat!

[crystal iron]

Hey guys who is your favorite prophet from Halo 2?

My personal favorite is Truth

[slim spoke]

https://klipy.com/gifs/master-chief-walking-1

[short flower]

6415, way better Vallaheim score than the last few I got on that map.

[plucky flicker]

Prophet of Truth.

[solid canopy]

Very good stuff

[solid canopy]

Prophet of Distain

[crystal iron]

?

[lavish apex]

https://tenor.com/view/blasphemy-halo-wars-prophet-of-regret-2009-xbox-360-gif-1639309029188910507

[lost trellis]

Honestly Mercy. I love how old and crazy he is. Dude is off his rocker

[solid canopy]

https://www.halopedia.org/Prophet_of_Disdain

I say it jokingly

[steady prawn]

hello guys, i quit playing halo a long time ago, i want to comeback tho. Is any halo reach-halo 4 multiplayer still alive? without having to wait 30minutes for a single game?:D

[latent acorn]

If you are referring about Reach and 4 on MCC? Yes, it is alive. If you are referring to 360’s Reach and 4? No, the servers were shutdown about 4 years ago.

[steady prawn]

yessir im asking about the on steam, im very happy its still alive will buy it rn 😄

and is there a difference in buying just halo reach and whole mcc? are there different severs or is it the same

[glacial tartan]

MCC is the launcher; you need it to install/interact with the games.

[winged hazel]

mcc includes reach out of the box among others. unless you're on console in which case reach and odst are paid dlc for some reason

the se(r)vers are different yes. how active they are mostly depends on the game

[steady prawn]

and when talking about halo reach is better just reach or the mcc one

[winged hazel]

can't say for certain. haven't played 360 reach but i'd imagine they're about the same

one just comes with more games

[civic sundial]

360 Reach is unplayable online these days since they sunset the servers for it

Also MCC Reach features some additional cosmetics to chase for, such as GRD

[velvet sail]

I've decided to do a little series replay in a weird order. At least of the MCC collection. I'm thinkin... 1, Reach, 2, ODST, 3. Kinda funky I know

[lucid turtle]

Does anyone play MCC multiplayer anymore I barely get any games (pc)

[glacial tartan]

Indeed they do. There are tons of people searching for games right as we speak

[lucid turtle]

No halo one big team battle though 🙁

I was searching for a few minutes

[glacial tartan]

CE BTB specifically is a bit niche. Early in the night for that

[lucid turtle]

Unfortunately, it looks like fun but I’ve never played

[short flower]

I do not stay in matches im forced to die in - I wanna try and be a perfectionist, and complete every remaining match possible with a perfection.

yes I have beef with their plasma pistols why do they cook you bro 😭

[lost trellis]

One thing that has always shocked me about Halo is that the Covenant doesn't have any kind of united theme. Like there's Covenant Dance for CE but there is no Covenant Theme for the entire series. There isn' a Wort Wort Wort anthem and that's weird right?

[spice quest]

Faithless in Halo 4 was definitely the theme for Jul's Covenant

[tulip tusk]

i remember playing btb in custom browser a lot maybe some luck there

[solid canopy]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6LmG3W

I was just scrolling for concept art on Artstation and low and behold, this insight into Halo development was just uploaded

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Jr405v?album_id=14908475

Also a few unseen Halo Infinite storyboards detailing cut scenarios

This one here seems to show Chief activating some sort of teleporter and arriving at what looks like a Banished encampment

Damn it is a shame Eric Will isn't working at Halo Studios/343i anymore. His stuff looks awesome

[short flower]

Match doubly froze -> I survived -> I got a perfection and a 5120 score to start off General Grade 2 yay

[whole glade]

Anyone wanna talk about halo

[quasi tangle]

I'm looking for a way to run Halo: Spartan Assault from Steam. I've already tried everything that was written on the internet: Steam in offline mode after reinstalling the game, installing profile fix 277430, compatibility modes, disabling the Steam overlay, disabling Steam input.

[crystal iron]

Halo CE and 2 grunts sound like minions from dispicable me

Lol

[lucid turtle]

You are so right

Am I wrong to think that Halo CE has the best Multiplayer for a casual? I adore how simple and chaotic it can be

[celest heron]

I think a lot of them can be like that, but for me, it'd probly depend on who's in the game with me.

[stoic sky]

What is your favorite sound effect for the Assault rifle, mine is CE anniversary’s version as it’s got a booming sound to it, although Halo 4 and 5 sound cool as well

[sturdy kernel]

Infinite

[solid canopy]

5 I think

[spice quest]

For nostalgia reasons I really love the Halo 3 AR even though it sounds like a popcorn machine

[sly cipher]

whats the currently the most active game in mcc?

[glacial tartan]

Reach/3 (especially Reach if including the CGB)
Then its
CE/H2C
Then its
H2A/H4

[sly cipher]

cheers

[low blaze]

Real convenient that the marathon armor coincidentally happened to he put in the halo infinite shop rotation just as marathon came out

[civic sundial]

The Security armour has been available in Infinite for a long time now

[solid canopy]

I like the majority of Halo 4's Forerunner asthetics just fine. I have some qualms about them, but there are plenty of things I enjoy about them. So it makes me scratch my head a bit when we get to Halo 5 and they changed the Forerunner asthetic for the worse

There is a real lack of elegance or wonder with the Forerunner architecture of Halo 5. Things feel overly flat and the color pallet is just very bland

Structures feel abstract in a way that less etherial and more like a cluttered mish-mash of pieces

It is like they took all my complaints about the Forerunner architecture seen in Shutdown and then doubled down on it.

And it is a shame because Halo 5 does have some really good environments like Sanghelios, Argent-Moon, and the outdoor environments of Genesis

[solid canopy]

For the record, I think the Soliders, Phaeton, and Promethean weapons all look good. My main issue is with Halo 5's Forerunner structures

[spice quest]

For the Forerunner stuff in Meridian with the Guardian I think they should have used the stone textures like in Halo 2 to match the idea that the Guardians predate the use the Forerunners have given them.

For Genesis I agree entirely, I can barely remember the vibe except for the (Lithos?) round structures. Like that area where we fight several Warden Eternals is very forgettable and with most other Forerunner sites it just isn't that way

Like compare it to a Cartographer, the Citadel or to the last level in Halo 4 and how strong those setpieces are. Even Infinite with places like the Silent Auditorium, the Tower and the House of Reckoning got that right.

[solid canopy]

I think Infinite's Forerunner archiecture is among the best in the series

It calls back to a lot of the best elements of CE and 2's Forerunner architecture while also sprinkling in elements seen in Halo 4

Also it occured to me on my most recent playthrough of Halo 5 (that i haven't finished) that the look of the UNSC is more or less what Doom 2016 and Eternal would do for the look of the UAC

https://www.dave-derbis.de/photo/doom-game-2016-12/

This looks like a Warzone base

[left snow]

A lot of people have expressed a similar sentiment.

I imagine it would unravel very quickly with a modern gaming audience. Who are much more savvy with their general skills and tactics.

I doubt it would be any less sweaty than any other game.

[solid canopy]

Halo CE can be very punishing if you don't know what you are doing, especially with Magnum starts

it is why for the longest time I'd roll my eyes when I got Derelict in matchmaking

[swift radish]

You are 100% right, CE is definitely my favorite multiplayer because of the sheer chaos

[short flower]

My teammate got a 7320 firefight score! (No perfection)

[celest heron]

once you get hero, are you going to continue playing firefight?

[short flower]

I will.

Extremely terrifying enemies forced my team to give up a hill. I do NOT wanna die in less than a second!!!

Even with a death because of a cheating wraith, I must continue the grind.

[short flower]

Approaching the grand-finals. (Career rank)

[short flower]

15,201 to go, I’d need a 6610 score to snipe the requirement.

[short flower]

I would hope in halo infinite’s case of math with career points, that a 6610 match wouldn’t leave a point left. (Like it could be 15200 and then +1 to next level)

So to be safe, I’d need at the minimum a 6615 just to be able to snipe the requirement and not have a point left.

[short flower]

2 matches, all good! 241,861 to go until HERO!!!!

[short flower]

From where im at, as long as career point totals after each are at the minimum 10k each, it may just take me like 24 matches max to hit hero!

(24 or so)

[shadow turret]

I really wish I could keep grinding for Hero but I think my laptop started being dum with Infinite again 🥀

[brave carbon]

Lol just spawned with someone running right at me. Hahahahaha

[short flower]

3315 score, and then 5030. Muuuuch better, and a good way to finish off for the night. Woo!

+1715 extra after that Refuge match is crazy.

[short flower]

Spartan strike?

I cannot find Spartan Strike in the App Store.

Not even Spartan Assault!

[short flower]

Ohhh.

Never heard of it, sorry.

[inland minnow]

@lime forge sorry, but please don't post about projects that violate the Game Content Usage Rules

[lime forge]

Oh ok sorry, i didn't thought it was something bad because isn't that a project allowed by Xbox and Halo Studios ?

[inland minnow]

my apologies, you said halo survivors so i thought you were talking about a different project! feel free to repost your question, but you are more likely to find out if you ask wherever the dedicated support for spartan survivors is

[lime forge]

Ok thank you ☺️

[short flower]

I might as well finish this tonight

could be 7 matches or less

(70,716 left)

[craggy onyx]

I really like the soundtrack for reach

It kind of sells the idea that the fight for reach was never going to be a win for humanity

[short flower]

Teammate SPOOKED me… I shot a rocket, then shortly after, they swung in! Thank GOODNESS they were too my right.

3 matches till promotion.

[short flower]

Promotion is imminent.

I got Forest might need a 4th match

10,431, oh my goodness!

HERO PROMOTION MATCH. (This is if I can score 4.5k or higher!)

[short flower]

PROMOTED TO HERO!!!! (Final score: 5325!!!!)

[solid canopy]

Replaying Halo 5 has made me ask a question about if hit/kill markers hurt Halo's PvE gameplay

Because, Halo CE put a lot of empasis on you being upclose to your enemies and being able to easily read their movements and actions

But I wonder how much putting hit/kill markers in gives players incentive to pay more attention to their crosshair and/or play at a distance

Halo's gameplay worked so well because they put so much empahsis on the Covenant's actions being readable and understandable. There is a whole GDC talk in like 2002 about how the Grunts fleeing when you killed the Elite only clicked with players when they had the Grunts saying "Leader dead! Run away!"

But with Halo 5 there is so much stuff going on at once that you very rarely get a chance to feel that classic Halo combat dance

Obviously Halo 5 is just one game, but even in Halo 4 there are times where they push you from getting close into a fight because of the changes made to the combat loop

Hell, I'd argue Reach even does that to an extent, and the introduction of hit/kill markers in 4 and 5 just pushed the issue further along idk.

[smoky stone]

hit markers are not needed in Halo imo, they likely added them because every other mainstream pvp fps has them. Halo CE, 2 and 3 didn't have them and it was easy to see you were landing your shots due to shields animation and blood.

[short flower]

How many deaths did I have throughout General Grade 3? Absolutely… ZERO!!!!

What a perfect streak and way to finish!

[glass raven]

Are there like, Halo Orchestras n stuff by any chance? Obv Ik some might do it locally/of their own accord. But sumn like "25 Years of Halo tracks" or sumn

Or did i dream that ☹️

[solid canopy]

There is a concert happening in december

Tickets are all sold out :(

[glass raven]

☹️

Oh it's only in the us aswell damn

[velvet sail]

Finishing Halo CE campaign for the 2nd time ever, and just sharing my scattered thoughts:

1. Beautiful game, such a great visual identity, soundtrack, all of it. Just the total package.
2. I liked the levels for the most part. Obviously I won't shock anyone saying I dislike the library, it's just kind of tedious rather than tense on a second playthrough. I think the first half is stronger overall but the second half is still good, The Maw is a great last level. Favorite was probably Silent Cartographer or Assault on the Control Room.
3. Story is fun, I forgot how tight the writing is for the most part. Though Halo's lore is part of why I enjoy it so much
4. I only played on Normal but I may attempt a future run on Legendary or at least Heroic
5. I'm gonna do Reach next because I think it slots in nicely between CE and 2, even if I might get whiplash from the gameplay. Might be a Heroic playthrough idk yet

[stoic sky]

It’s weird because I know a lot of people dislike the Library level from CE, but I think it’s one of the best levels that shows the Flood acting like, well, a flood.

They’re coming from everywhere all the time, and it did a good job making it feel like you were always fighting with your back against the wall

But I definitely get why people say it’s repetitive, I’m interested to see how Campaign Evolved edits it

[velvet sail]

I think it's effective as an almost survival-horror esque divergence from the main story but my two main issues are that 1) it goes on a LONG time especially if don't know where you're going and 2) the environment is really grey and repetitive and the same halls over and over again

[civic sundial]

It's just a poorly designed level

[devout valve]

For a game with so many of the same corridors, the library does get a lot more hate than I expected.

[short flower]

Been trying to de-rust for PvP man.

It’s rough.

(Infinite PvP)

Gotta get a LOT of rust off.

Just won, 15-11 kills deaths though

Okay no more flood gulch please

[short flower]

I legit can’t play PvP anymore.

[solid canopy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/1rnue2h/found_a_copy_of_halo_4_at_goodwill_gifted_by_a/

Really cool find

[smoky stone]

lol why?

[true knot]

Appearance

[short flower]

Nah I just stink.

Although I was able to get a 15-4 match still.

[solid canopy]

Its occured to me while going back and forth through OG trilogy and Reclaimer games that the big issue I have with the Reclaimer take on Forerunner architecture is how so much of it meshes together (especially in 5)

One thing Bungie did very well was being careful to make the ground not flow perfectly into the walls and whatever else. There was a very clear means of guiding the eyes through the whole thing

Meanwhile environments like Requiem's Cartographer or Bridge all kind of mesh together. The unfortunate result is a sometimes messy environment

Which is a shame because artists like Sparth, Robogabo, and Josh Kao are extraordinary talents and damn good artists

Levels like Reclaimer and Midnight show that this balance could be struck well under the new direction

Though Halo 5 went way off into what I thought were Halo 4's worst tendencies with its take on Forerunner architecture

[near dune]

We love bungie 😏

[solid canopy]

....sure?

[near dune]

[violet gale]

.

[celest heron]

ff ai are like recruit level bots, so yeah, it will be more difficult, lol.

[solid canopy]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/zAaQlw

Man this would be one hell of a cool setting for a map

"Rooftop shootout in Italy"

I really hope Rythaze gets to continue working with Halo Studios

[short flower]

My fiesta experience: spawn with bad guns 90% of the time

more like 100% of the time

I can’t play this mode anymore

so unplayable

[solid canopy]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts4kmwkAT_0&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

Maybe I'm reaching here, but this whole arguement they are pushing feels like the FPS version of the "Final Destination, No Items, Fox Only" meme

Also asking the devs to build two sandboxes for both social and ranked play feels like a logistical nightmare

I hold the personal opinion that Halo is a social game first, with competitive being a natural extinction of that environment. A lot like Smash Brothers. While I'm all for Halo Studios catering to competitive players and allowing that environment to grow, it shouldn't come at the cost of the rest of the game

[plucky flicker]

Sean Callery's Shared Vision featuring Colin Stetson is genuinely extraordinary. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Sean Callery wanted to find a sound that could represent the magnificent and terrifying sight of Halo while also being a sound that has never been heard before Halo before — and he succeeded in doing that. He blended the classic Halo chant with synth soundscape and avant-garde saxophone techniques.

@solid canopy

[solid canopy]

Do you have a link?

[signal spade]

Hey guys so I've been thinking about this for a while and decided to finally ask it.
During the Halo 2 E3 Demo, everybody went crazy when they saw dual-wielding SMGs. What's so crazy about it? It's just placing 2 viewmodels that are controlled separately. This shouldn't require black magic or anything for the Xbox to make.
In fact, GoldenEye 007 did the same much earlier, with a flipping N64.

Were they just happy that Halo had new mechanics? Because everybody seemed to only shout when there were new mechanics (driving marines, non-vehicle turrets, hijacking)

[solid canopy]

People were excited for new mechanics

[celest heron]

do you think fans are all elitist tech people? 'they only added another view model. sooo impresive. lame, next..' lol. No, fans get excited when a sequel adds new things.

[plucky flicker]

https://youtu.be/K43k1g_Bu04?si=73jUEtwfHPhKwVtu

[plucky flicker]

Some of us are. 😆

[short flower]

Almost had a Firefight match completed where the whole team were Hero rank. Darn hero player left so fast and a diamond career rank player got in. Coulda stayed, other hero player. They just had to ruin it…

That would’ve been epic…

[still vector]

I’m diamond and pretty good but I just don’t have enough time to get to hero

[celest heron]

not all heroes are created equally.

[solid canopy]

Maybe this is totally improbable with game development, but I wonder if it might've been more productive to have Bungie work with 343 Industries to create a better/smoother transition between teams rather than have them work with Wingnut Interactive on that cancelled Halo Chronicles game

Like I said, maybe that would be a logistical issue or something, but the thought did pass my mind. Bungie was contracted for two more Halo games, and it seemed that Halo Chronicles would've counted even if they were just collaborating/advising development

Then again, maybe Bungie would have qualms about working on a Halo 4 that isn't fully their own/a story they couldn't finish themselves.

[solid canopy]

It reminds me a lot of Joel Goldsmith's Stargate Universe score. I think this track works in the choir/chants in really well

The bit towards the end reminds me a lot of the ambient tracks from Halo CE

[short flower]

Something doesn’t feel right… apparently when you get the campaign kit for multiplayer, you should sound like Chief from the campaign.

[civic sundial]

First I've heard of that

I kinda want to test if that's true

[short flower]

but you still sound like your regular Spartan with it.

[civic sundial]

Where did you hear this?

[short flower]

Played FF yesterday and I still sounded like my regular PvP Spartan

for like meleeing and stuff

[summer aspen]

That's never been the case?

[short flower]

huh…

[summer aspen]

You're talking about the Infinite Mark VI armor set. Once unlocked, you just have Chief's armor, you don't sound like him. Never have.

[short flower]

Dang I wish you would in MP.

[summer aspen]

It's not true. I think the guy was just guessing.

[summer aspen]

The only Halo title that ever had Chief's voice in MP was halo reach's firefight voices.

[short flower]

oh yeah I have that selected on MCC

[summer aspen]

you don't need to be wearing Chief's armor to do this though so I've got no idea where that came from.

[spice quest]

Didn't male Spartans sound like Chief in death sounds in some of the games?

[summer aspen]

I think Halo CE, maybe Halo 2. Don't believe they do in Halo 3 & up though.

[spice quest]

In Halo 3 I think they started sounding different

[summer aspen]

it's either the same guy and Bungie just changed how it sounds or it's a different VA idk

I just know 343i continued that oddly enough.

[spice quest]

Okay after a couple minutes of listening to Spartans screaming in death I am pretty sure that Steve Downes voiced the mp Spartan death sounds in Halo 3 and it seems most are shared with Chief.

Some are in a different vocal range than one usually expects of Chief though

[stable hamlet]

hey yall, Im new here. I’ve been meaning to get into Halo for a while now, but from what Ive seen online it sounds like it’s not exactly in the best state at the moment
that said, I still really want to jump in, especially for the multiplayer, not just the campaign yk. Since Ive never played any Halo before, what would you recommend I start with on PC if I want the best overall experience rn?

[sturdy kernel]

If MP I'm recommending play Halo infinite
If the whole story, then Halo CE, it available in MCC

[celest heron]

do you mean population with not the best state or something else?

[woeful fractal]

Honestly, MCC is the perfect starting point, H3 (and if you buy the amazingly cheap dlc) ODST and Reach are amazing games with fairly active multi-player (atleast for custom games) and if you buy every dlc im pretty sure its still at or under 60$ which is crazy for 6 entire games

[shadow turret]

MCC goes on sale for around $10 quite often

And the most populated MP is Infinite, at least in most regions iirc

[glacial tartan]

We dont know either of those 😄 We can know MCC > Infinite in general, but we cant know region / MP vs Campaign, other than educated guesses

[shadow turret]

It's fairly safe to assume a large portion of MCCs population is on Campaign I feel like
Like ik MP is active, but I feel like more ppl play for campaign or customs than MP overall in MCC

[glacial tartan]

Very possible, thats why I said educated guesses. But with such a large delta in raw player numbers, even if a majority of MCC were on campaign, it would likely still be more in MP

[shadow turret]

Still, at least in my experience overall, you can find a match in pretty much any mode on Infinite (mostly just excluding Ranked, which tbf isn't super active in any of the games) within about a minute, whereas MCC feels a lot longer, even if you search everything (which I've done before a few times)

[glacial tartan]

Interesting, Ive only ever heard / experienced the opposite. But thats also why we go based on the numbers, not our experiences. Regardless, they are both good choices but for the forseeable future MCC will likely be more populated

[shadow turret]

I mean like, tbf, I've only really searched Firefight as of recent, but ik other friends that still play Infinite a bit from the UK and area, and they seem to find matches within like 30 seconds or so often
So

[civic sundial]

I'll admit I've not played in a while but in my experience, 30 seconds is the slower time it takes to get a Firefight game

[shadow turret]

Kinda been the same for me
I usually find FF in like 10-15 seconds or less
But I know ppl that still play like BTB and Sauad Battle and Husky Raid and stuff, which like, yea those are kinda the more "popular" modes, but even from EU I don't think I've ever seen them go for more than like a minute 30 ish for search times

[civic sundial]

I'll have to double check that next time I play. I've just had a bunch of other things going on that meant I haven't had time to play Halo

[shadow turret]

Fair tbh
I haven't been able to really play in a while due to PC issues

[civic sundial]

Also fair. Tech issues are always a pain

[dense oar]

Can anyone not buy Halo Infinite Credits right now?

[shadow turret]

yeaaa
I had like a week or so after I got my CPU fan got repaired that it stopped being dum, but its back to being dum again

[civic sundial]

Yeah, that does suck. Any idea what's causing the issues now?

[shadow turret]

tbh I think its just my laptop being underspec

[lost trellis]

Something that has never sat right with me is how wrong people are about Truth in Halo 3. I’ve seen very few people mention the reason he stopped being such a political and backstabby person is entirely because he simply had no more rivals. That’s still who he is in the game he’s just hamming up everything as a show. This becomes clear when we get quite moments with Truth at the end of the game. All of his televisions moments are of a religious madman but when talking to Johnson. Miranda and Thel he goes back to his normal self because he doesn’t have the cameras on. I think the new voice actor throws a lot of people off, I don’t think loads of people missed it, I just think loads of people preferred his old VA that much so it kinda gets washed over.

I think if we could somehow get the old va to do the Halo 4 lines that’d make it super clear to people.

Oh and more bad guy povs, infinite did good bringing those back.

[brave carbon]

Can they make these electric nades in infinite just a little less strong? Those things are absolutely ridiculous

Lol

[solid canopy]

Iirc his original VA refused to return because Microsoft/Bungie used his lines in commercials without informing or paying him

So most likely not

I for one think 3's narrative back-sliding paired with the Arbiter becoming an NPC who shows up semi-frequently/player 2 in co-op made Truth just a far less interesting villain

Apperantly the second batch of Halo devs at Bungie didn't like the direction 2 went in and instead wanted to go back to Halo CE's more (for lack of a better word) simplistic narrative

[solid canopy]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AAeXLJIp07c

Not giving us RvB AIs for Infinite is such a missed oppurtunity

[solid canopy]

Cool thing that happened:
I was playing Halo 4 (Requiem specifically) and assainated an Elite, but just as I started the animation a Jackal hit me with a few needler rounds with one lading in my hand. So as I killed the Elite it looked like I stabbed him with the Needler shard lodged in my body

A visual worthy of the phrase "hardcore"

[solid canopy]

It wasn't until toying around in Theater mode that I realized there was a waterfall beneath the first floating tower you see on Requiem

[onyx plinth]

Would it be possible to create a DLC for Halo Wars if the entire community mobilized to put pressure on them ? 🤔

[rugged quartz]

Who would even make it?

[spark venture]

Out of every Halo game,
Which one had the most Smartest NPCs? In terms of Combat, Pathfinding, Smartness, and Reasoning?

[celest heron]

probly infinite. it literally has bots in mp games.

[summer aspen]

smartest npcs?
Halo 4 / 5. Prometheans basically try to hunt you, back off when damaged, flank you, knows when you have no shields, etc. This isn't really something you experience in other games.
It makes them "frustrating" to fight in a way.

in terms of "multiplayer bots" though, only halo infinite has that.

Halo 1's AI is pretty basic, although a lot of the things you see in Halo 4 / 5 largely started here.
Halo 2's is more advanced, although the new weapons make them easier to deal with vs Halo 1's.
Halo 3's is bog standard dumb. Brutes generally just stand there, and act more like bullet sponges vs "real enemies" that have life to them.
reach's AI is about the same as 3's.

Halo Infinite's AI has the same issue Halo 3's has. Not as bad, but they're still generally dumb. I believe they dumbed down the AI on purpose off of Halo 4 / 5's because of all the complaints they got about them being to hard to kill effectively.

[short flower]

In BTB, when the enemy team hogs every vehicle available, and wins in the cheapest way possible… I wish I could stop this.

[celest heron]

sounds like you need better teammates.

[short flower]

literally NO HOPE IN PLAYING BTB EVER AGAIN

[onyx plinth]

all of us with a petition or a fundraising page

[wooden meadow]

are these the guys who just wander around on the other side of the map doing nothing in my firefight games

[solid canopy]

2 maybe

CE's still feels great in my opinion thanks to the work put into making all the enemy behavior readable and expressive

I think Reach's AI is solid but the game can sometimes lack that (for lack of a better word) intimate flow of combat between enemies seen in earlier games. This something Halo 5 is far more guilty of though with the unfortunate downside of enemy AI being cut down which is something Halo 4 also had to do

Infinite makes a lot of improvements over 4 and 5 but the open world design kind screws with them sometimes

Should also be mentioned how Halo 4's marines have pathfinding issues and a tendency to unload a full round into dead enemies

[civic sundial]

There's marines/friendly NPCs which do that in all the games, not just Halo 4

[solid canopy]

Yes I know

The difference is in previous games they fired a few shots in every so often and didn't fire their entire ammo supply at them

It is probably its worst when you are riding in a Warthog on Reclaimer

[celest heron]

no, those are real players

[summer aspen]

The enemy AI in Halo 4 & 5 were definitely not cut down. 343i upgraded them in more ways then one off of reach.

Infinite's AI is much worse, as I already mentioned was likely done on purpose due to complaints about how lethal Halo 4 / 5's AI was.
Like Halo 3's AI, they tend to be bullet sponges that just stand there for the most part.

The bosses in Infinite don't do this (the ones you're actually meant to fight), but it's so easy to break there AI path finding it may as well not be a real challenge. Bassus especially.

[cunning oyster]

I’m having a very odd psychic manifestation success streak. So I just manifested that Microsoft will make the MCC matchmaker great again.

[crystal iron]

Yeah it still impresses me all these years later such a good game Bungie really thought of everything the ai, the story, the graphics, amazing game 🙏🏼

[brave carbon]

Dynamo nades in infinite are a power weapon, lol

[short flower]

I lost 2 perfections in firefight to those from skimmers.

Destruction for the Gasgira.

[solid canopy]

I may be split on Gen 2 designs, but damn does Blue Team look really good in Halo 5

shame they don't do anything

[solid canopy]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XJRXY0

I think it looks cool

[solid canopy]

I had the fortune of getting play Halo Fireteam Raven today. I made it through 90% of the game before running out of time/cash. This wasn't my first time playing but it was the longest I had played it continuously

All in all, it is decent fun with a few pretty cool moments but far from anything you should hunt down beyond being a Halo game in the Arcades

I can't help but wish they partnered with Sega or Namco

Raw Thrills/Play Mechanix generally make "fine" arcade games but nothing especially great. While playing Fireteam Raven I couldn't help but compare it to the likes of Sega's Operation G.H.O.S.T. where the gameplay feels a lot more involved

I also found that the game didn't make as great enough use of Halo's gameplay mechanics as it could have, mainly in regards to how weapons functioned and enemies behaved.

Worth mentioning that the Flood Juggernaut showing up was pretty sweet, even if fighting it isn't much

[spare finch]

hot take: I don’t like Halo 3’s level design

[solid canopy]

How come?/gen

[muted bear]

I like all of the Halo games

[frosty condor]

[random shuttle]

Hello there. Came to this server in hope to find out which cosmetics I used for my old skin in Infinite because I remember that the armor emblem was big but no matter which armor I tried from the ones that aren't in season passes the emblem is always small or the armor itself doesn't look like from what I remember of the old skin.

Made the skin back when the game released if it helps. Remembering that the Reach season pass was the only one I bought. Got some pictures of the skin but not sure if those help since you don't really see the full skin.

[inland minnow]

i believe the emblem position and size was modified at some point due to issues, which might be what's impacting that side of it fwiw

[uneven bison]

If you post it in #1164394180676681798 I could help

[celest heron]

you could probly just scroll through all the items until you remember which one you used although that could take a bit.

[random shuttle]

Tried posting something in a thread on a different server long ago. Only remember that I wasn't able to delete messages I posted. Is this still a thing? Because then I probably would prefer not to.

[uneven bison]

I’m pretty sure you can delete messages in a thread

[random shuttle]

Posted. Checked and it was the own post I posted which I could delete but it didn't disappear completely. Remembered it wrong then.

[uneven bison]

If you do find it ping me and I’ll help you out

[random shuttle]

Replied to one of your messages. It would help a lot if could try to tell me which helmet I used at least but apperantly the armor is default so I guess the big emblem was a release only thing so I probably can't get it back exactly like this.

[civic sundial]

The helmet is Cavallino

[inland minnow]

i'm pretty sure this kind of thing would be determined by the server's permission settings, by the way

[white birch]

First one unlocked Im pretty sure.

[civic sundial]

It is

[outer stag]

Halo?

[thin flame]

halo 5 makes halo 4 look like halo 2

[reef zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-cortana-halo-4-halo-halo-4-cortana-gif-7405220823940149199

[chrome mauve]

Is anyone else having visual issues with the grass in infinite? its been a mess of black squares all clipping into each other for me lately

[glacial tartan]

The nvidia driver update today should fix this

[chrome mauve]

Epic, thanks

[summer aspen]

halo 4 maps make halo 3 look like halo 0.5

[viral arrow]

so i wanna start work on a pretty big machinima and have spent literal months working out which games and i despererately ened help picking. is a more serious one with a similar story and vibe to halo reach. im gonna list the pros and cons.

Halo Reach
Pros:
-playable elites make machinimating the covenant much easier.
-the art style is exactly what im going for.
-i have a good understanding of its forge and can easily use it.

Cons:
-i can only use elites for the covenant.
-the sandbox is super restrictive so theres alot i cant do.

Halo Reach(Modded)
Pros:
-same as unmodded
-much larger sandbox and can do much more.
-accessible ai to allow me to use any covenenat.

Cons:
-cant use both larger sandbox and usable ai due to the nature of MCC mods.
-cannot control the ai directly.
-finding players for the machinimation may be very difficult and i cant rely on 5 of my friends stacking 4 controllers.

Halo 3 vs Halo 3 Modded posses identicle pros and cons however i understand its forge much less and its art style isnt quite what im looking for(ultimate forge 2.0 is a huge boon)

Halo Infinite
Pros:
-super easy to control ai
-games free so players will be easier to find
-art style is somewhere between halo 3 and reach which is solid
-forge is incredibley powerful

Cons:
-no playable elites so more complex covenant actions will be incredibly hard
-the armor costs money so finding people with the right armor may be hard
-im not quite as well educated in its forge like i am the other two so building the maps will be harder.

i really appreciate anything you guys can say to help me decide, personally im leaning towards unmodded halo reach but im really scared its gonna restrict what im able to do.

if i dont respond feel free to dm

[lucid prairie]

This is where you need to find and join a clan like ONI or another community that you can pitch and drive this story thru

[lucid prairie]

Ultimately though your decision is going to come to how much you want to write-in to your story or let the game tell for you.

Old Halo: Reach Machinimas are based on camera work, voice acting and elements of storytelling.

[lucid prairie]

Is #general-chat and #halo-discussion the same thing or

[coarse dagger]

General is for anything, rules permitting. This channel is more Halo specific

[gloomy pollen]

Does anyone else get teammates that afk or just dont shoot at all? 5 games in a row where a teammate has 0 kills and double digit deaths...

[digital crag]

guys me my friends were playing halo mcc cursed halo google said u can play up to 4 players but its not letting us can you really play up to 4 players?

[viral arrow]

well yeah id bring other people on board to help out for sure but im going to retain complete creative control over it. i have no quarel with taking on other ideas but im not joining a clan for that.

and im in a couple of other halo discords that i would use to recruit those people

[lucid prairie]

You’re pretty set then

It sounded like you were having difficulty choosing really because you would have a hard time with finding actors for the game

Otherwise a good machnima is storytelling

[plucky flicker]

Just realised Halo 5 opens and ends with Préludes No. 4: Les sons et les parfums tournent dans l'air du soir, which actually has lore implications. It is a full circle, really.

This would've been called a profound artistic statement if it was a Bungie game. Just saying.

[viral arrow]

A cool decision here and there doesent excuse dozens of terrible ones in most people's eyes. However that is still really cool and I didn't know that.

[deft maple]

[brittle hollow]

My Infinite is suddenly not able to launch and crashes on start... Anyone recently experiencing this ?

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[granite ferry]

Guys

Hello guys

[solid canopy]

I like VISR OS and think it looks pretty good, but I do really wish that Halo 7 would give it more color variety

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Aqadky

This concept art Eric Will put together showcasing a redesigned UNSC Hologram aesthetic kind of shows what I am getting at. Specifically the image in the lower middle labeled "Background update"

https://jeffchristy.artstation.com/projects/ybBq8J?album_id=2449987

Another good example is the pelican cockpit

More splashes of color variety would go a long way imo. I really didn't care for how they made the Warthog UI almost exclusively blue and white

[brave carbon]

Can you rejoin a game you lagged out of in halo infinite? All I ever see is "waiting to join", but I never join. And I saw it was a bot in the game as my replacement the whole time

Am I missing something?

[solid canopy]

https://jeffchristy.artstation.com/projects/BaL9z

I really dig the "digital neon" look they were leaning into with Halo 5's UI

It feels like a natural extinction of what Halo 2 and 3 did with their UIs but still fresh and original

Halo 5's menus unfortunately feel a tad downgraded from what these concepts show

[plucky flicker]

Hello

[plucky flicker]

Halo 3's writing is quite out there, but most part of the commmunity still treats it like something sacred. It's kind of prejudice and selective hate. 'Dozens'... for which you might be thinking from current day perspective. When Halo 5 came out, 343 had only made a single game before.

[solid canopy]

Halo 3's story is "shallow" but it does what it needs to do

Halo 5's narrative fumbles in a different way. Beyond all the critiques you can throw at the misleading marketing and how it feels so removed from Halo 4 at times, it also is just comes across as very confused

Too many characters who aren't given much depth or development, plot-lines that are tossed out and replaced with new ones, and a general lack of focus on the what/why/when

I have my issues with both narratives, but Halo 5 is probably the greater offender. That being said there are plenty of things to appreciate with the game

[glacial tartan]

I don’t believe infinite ever got the rejoin feature

[rugged quartz]

a lot of that does look cool

[solid canopy]

Man. I do not like the Concussion Rife at all

Thank God that Halo 5 replaced it with the Plasma Caster

too bad infinite didn't bring the plasma caster back

[zealous cloak]

Plasma caster was awesome

[solid canopy]

I miss it so much

It and the Sticky Detonator are among the weapons I want back the most

[civic sundial]

Honestly, I would love for the Sticky Det to come back. I don't think it would even need major changes either

[solid canopy]

Plasma Caster
Halo 5 Binary Rifle
Stick Detonator
Those are the weapons I want back the most

[civic sundial]

I'm so glad you said the Halo 5 Binary Rifle

[white birch]

The Halo 4 one was just a better sniper rifle really. The 5 one was more balanced.

[civic sundial]

Because having it fire in short bursts was a good change to help it stand out more

[white birch]

I agree with the sticky det, its a fun tool.
Honestly, I wonder if having it be an armor ability could work...something to pick off the ground of course, but it could be fun if whatever Halo 7 is like keeps the equipment.

[civic sundial]

I feel like equipment shouldn't be something which can directly kill. Like, at least with the Repulsor, it was sending someone flying into a wall or gravity which was killing them, not the piece of equipment itself

[solid canopy]

Runner ups being the Railgun, Plasma Launcher, Halo CE Plasma Rifle, and the Halo 5 SMG just because I like the design

[civic sundial]

Now the railgun is one I genuinely was surprised didn't come back in Infinite

[solid canopy]

It does really bug me how in 25 years they haven't been able to recapture the success of the Halo CE Plasma Rifle

[civic sundial]

(The SMG too but I can go on and on about how I think Infinite needed the M20 at launch)

[solid canopy]

It has either been nerfed to compensate for dual wielding or overshadowed by another gun

Or just not present

[rugged quartz]

I just want as much as we can

[hazy wing]

Hey all, I've played MCC on the PC Xbox app in the past, now I'm trying to play it on Steam and I'm getting a constant "contacting server to get the latest matchmaking data" message. Seem like ZERO online features work. Anyone have any insights on how to fix this?

[civic sundial]

Paging @glacial tartan to help out

[glacial tartan]

https://github.com/theffapanda/MCC-Troubleshooting?tab=readme-ov-file#contacting-server-and-other-login-issues

Basically, clear credential manager of any Xbl related entries and then clear steam webcache. Download and run the script from that page to do it automatically. Logins get crossed, this clears it 🙂

[hazy wing]

Oi, what a headache. Thanks for the tips I'll try it out

No dev support on the issue? my scrounging around online for answers seemed to suggest this has been a long time issue

[glacial tartan]

It has been an issue for years but its not a particularly easy fix and never got prioritized.

(Insert any of dozens of issues with that same description here)

Anyway, if you get stuck lmk but that should clear it

[frosty condor]

[glacial tartan]

RIP Rejoin (2022-2025)

[smoky stone]

cant believe no one plays ranked in MCC

[wind birch]

I'm suprised anyone plays Halo these days since they killed the franchise

[smoky stone]

MCC has a higher pop than Infinite. Everytime I ranked up in Infinite, I end up sitting in queue forever.

Seems the majority of MCC folks play socials instead of ranked.

I find social games super fast

[wind birch]

True, I remember trying to play ranked mode in Infinte in 2022 and you couldn't find any matches at all.

[smoky stone]

It's their ranking system, it sucks. If you queue as a solo, it takes twice as long as if you were a team of 4.

And with the lower population in Infinite overall, it's not helping it at all.

MCC has 6400 players to Infinite's 2500 players.

[wind birch]

Really disappointed in seeing all the fake fans still playing Infinite. The game is just so bad I never want to touch it again.

Feels nice to play Halo 3 with 500 FPS lol

[solid canopy]

Really disappointed in seeing all the fake fans playing Halo 3. The game is just so bad I never want to touch it again.
It feels great playing Halo CE with 700 FPS

[signal spade]

Halo 3 ODST is the perfect way to have 3 storylines in one game.

[celest heron]

so fans are fake if they like something you don't?

[latent acorn]

Fake fans? That is the most silly thing to say, plus that is an ignorant post. There are no fake fans, just Halo fans and gaming fans.

[celest heron]

I don't think it's trolling if you look at their history. just ignorance with crude views to put it nicely.

[latent acorn]

Fair enough.

[civic sundial]

Day 1862: They still haven't figured out I'm a fake fan... I don't know how much longer I can keep the ruse up

[nova basalt]

🤣 🤣 🤣

Guess I’m fake then

[brave gust]

Ah yes the classic methodology of "Why arent these people always cynical about the current state of our shared intrest? They must be fake"

I personally love Infinite's multiplayer

All of the guns vehicles and equipment feel really good to use and like they all have a purpose

[nova basalt]

Incorrect opinion alert!!!!!1!
You need to hate EVERYTHING about halo!!!!!
Except halo 3 and the god emperor bungie!!!!!!!

[cursive crypt]

Remember the Marathon fans saying Bungie has fallen off in 2001 and Halo will never be better than Marathon?

It is practically a religion

[civic sundial]

Most people here won't remember that

[south escarp]

What’s with the new halo ce remake?

[lost trellis]

To be fair Halo isn't better then Marathon. We have 4 good Marathon games and half of Halo games certainly aren't good.

[cursive crypt]

boomer

[celest heron]

wdym?

[lost trellis]

Yeah that's the name of the ship Durandal stole!

Everyone knows a bit of Marathon lore some way somehow!

[magic night]

It's cause they're fake fans

[civic sundial]

Which is why we're gonna have to turn them into Battleroids so they can frogblast vent cores for the foreseeable future

[brave gust]

For the main 1st person shooter games in Halo I would call 6 of them good

All the Bungie ones are still really fun to play all this time later and Infinite in it's current state is a very fleshed out game (this is what launch should've looked like)

4 is bad and 5 is very meh. 4 has a severe lack of ammo and the campaign is not fun to play, and I beat 5's campaign in 6 hours, don't remember a lot, and couldnt play multi-player because the servers are that dead

[celest heron]

you might find games if you play warzone, but it's not surprising the servers died out since the focus turned to mcc and infinite over the years.

[feral fulcrum]

Hello who want to do a halo marathon with me im french but i can speak in english

[fast owl]

@feral fulcrum I would, but I don’t want to keep you waiting as I’m not at home at the moment

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[feral fulcrum]

Ok

[coarse dagger]

They do, to an extent, but it can be a futile effort sometimes - patch one method and people will already be looking for or discovering other methods. Tools like EAC help to try and take the load off

There's no single solution that will work for this, or way to prevent it completely. We're just not there yet with software development

[glacial tartan]

It’s an arms race. However, banning them more proactively would be a good deterrent

[slim spoke]

playing mcc, hop on

[brave gust]

Nah how about we play Infinite instead

[slim spoke]

read my nickname

[celest heron]

eww, fake fan

[slim spoke]

huh

real fans love infinite i guess

[celest heron]

^

[slim spoke]

that's not me

[hexed verge]

this freaking discord has 300K people yet no one plays the game, this is insane

[slim spoke]

real fans are allowed to enjoy infinite, they're also allowed dislike it

[celest heron]

I know, lol. I was responding to him, but you posted right before I did. was a joke that they would know the context to.

[rugged quartz]

If you need people to play with

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[celest heron]

the ping everyone command usually brings them out, lol.

[sleek hatch]

Cheating and patching and catching cheaters is a cat mouse chase.
Find the cheats disable them.
One day later there are new cheats.
It is never ending.
It is the same reason why there are so many windows updates.
The updates usually aren't for new stuff, it is for security reasons.

[sleek hatch]

Banning the people who uses the cheats is perfect. However, if someone is good enough, it is easy to get past a ban.

[next scroll]

Can you not earn the Watt Say You achievement in Infinite customs?

[uneven bison]

“Ce flops” do you even like halo bro

Why are you here

[solid canopy]

I've been replaying Tip Of The Spear and it has reminded me of how much I do not like using the Rockethog

Which reminds me, does anybody else find it really odd that they didn't bring back the Gausshog for Halo Infinite?

[lime forge]

Sounds interesting

[frosty condor]

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[strange warren]

hey

im getting black grid like lines in halo 6, how to solve it?

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

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[celest heron]

update your drivers if you're on nvidia.

[strange warren]

i install older 591 and finally it worked

[glacial tartan]

The brand new ones should resolve it but rollback would also

[strange warren]

it didnt even after reinstall

[glacial tartan]

Interesting - you should report that to support on Waypoint. They were advertising the fix, if it’s still broken they should know

[sturdy kernel]

It already fixed

[glacial tartan]

Yes but if they are still having the issue they should report it, patch notes can miss edge cases 🙂 And then support can track down any additional details they need

[sturdy kernel]

I updated the drivers and currently working(hoping lol)

[gloomy pollen]

MCC is just filled with AFK farmers. Why is that?

Great game ruined by losers who are farming xp for what?

[celest heron]

that or trying to get certain challenges done by letting others do the work. I'd run into them every now and then when I played, but wasn't a constant issue for me.

[glacial tartan]

Every single quit = ban
You could AFK forever = no ban

So why quit when you can just AFK?

[gloomy pollen]

Or just play the game since you started it.

[glacial tartan]

Ia gree w/ you but MCC has an entire AFK community. They live to see how many deaths they can get and wins without moving.

[winged hazel]

isn't at least one of their tasks to personally earn certain medals?

[celest heron]

no idea

[lime forge]

Difficult to find Blitz matchs in hw2

[whole mauve]

Im planning on starting the Halo series soon. The only game that ive played a little bit of was Halo 4 campaign split screen with my cousin

Any suggestions for where i should start? I have the master chief collection already downloaded

[sturdy kernel]

Combat evolved first

Play in release order

[whole mauve]

Alright. I wish i played in release order when i first tried getting into Halo, but all i had was Halo 4 at the time

[coarse dagger]

Sometime this year, a release date hasn't been announced yet

[coral orchid]

Gonna second what Wade said and play in release order.

[quartz shuttle]

How old is Halo reach? Ive had it for a while now.

[craggy pine]

Does anybody want to play

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

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[solid canopy]

I suspect Microsoft, and every other publisher for that matter, is waiting for Take Two to announce GTA VI's release

[hollow ore]

thinking about things, anyone else think they should add the Vestige carbine from halo infinite to Campaign evolved?

Something about it feels like it would fit.

[lime forge]

They can't wait forever

We will have a date in June

[solid canopy]

Probably not considering that the Needle Rifle is returning (finally)

[unborn stirrup]

hey im looking for ppl to play halo 3 customs on MCC with dm me or reply

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
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#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[civic sundial]

The Vestige Carbine is most likely only ever going to be in Infinite. Even ignoring lore reasons for why it can't show up in CEmake, most people would rather have the actual Covenant Carbine return, but with the Needle Rifle confirmed for CEmake, I doubt we'll see the Carbine as well

[solid canopy]

If the Covie Carbine returns I really hope that it keeps the Halo 5 design

Maybe change the color back to purple

The H5 Carbine is one of my favorite designs in the series. I love the way the ammo "counter" looks with the shifting colors

It's so good

[winged hazel]

would probably make more sense for it to be based off the halo 2 or 3 design

obviously with some changes to modernize it and all that

[civic sundial]

The Carbine design is one most people didn't seem bothered was changed between 3 and 4 so I wouldn't be surprised if they stick with the 4/5 era design going forward

And well, if it means they can save time by repurposing the animations for it from Halo 5, so be it. I'd rather the animators be working on actual new animations for new weapons than making new ones for old weapons when the animations from a decade ago are just fine

[whole mauve]

What im doing is playing the order on the master chief collection campaigns. Im playing Reach rn

[celest heron]

delayed

[ripe wing]

lortitta

thanks man

[glacial tartan]

🙏🏻 Never

[left snow]

If the new CE is successful in reaching a new (ie. PlayStation) audience - it's hard not seeing H2 and H3 getting the same treatment.

It would be money for jam given the work has already been done getting the new hybrid engine up and running.

It, of course, means sprint in all it's glory.

I'm kind of looking forward to the meltdowns. 😵‍💫

[lime forge]

2032

I hope that if the CE remake is successfull they continue with the trilogy at least

[cursive crypt]

SPV3.3 already added Sprint to Halo 1 and most halo tubers thought it was terrific.

[lime forge]

If they keep this 3 years dev could happen

[cursive crypt]

They are just grifting

[lime forge]

Grifting?

[left snow]

Where they dodge a bullet is that they don't have to put out a multiplayer with sprint.

It's just an "option" in campaign.

So the best people can complain about is not being able to smell the roses. Or something.

[lime forge]

For me the answer is just obvious but idk

They just want to uniformize the franchise nothing more

They're bringing Halo to new plateforms and new player now, they just want the all thing to feel the same for now

That goes along to the artstyle and everything

Everything need to fit well entirely

What is the point to potentially remake the trilogy and to change the artstyle every game just to keep with the old one who was in part like it is because of some limitation from the time ?

You just need to think in a potential long term way

Anyway if they do this or something else people would be pissed off, and i'm not the last one to critisize how they handled the saga since they took over

But i'm not pissed off with what we see for now

There is no real point anyway

[sudden saffron]

The Trilogy of Halo remakes should do the Friend-Pass thing that lets friends join in for CoOp for free

[solid canopy]

Playing Halo Reach with Thunderstorm on really is "Elite and Grunt Ultra Simulator 2552 edition"

[left snow]

I would assume the next iteration of multiplayer is already in production. Either as a stand alone game/service - or attached to Halo 7. They aren't going to put this directly up against multiplayer H2 and/or H3.

That would be a waste of resources and focus.

[civic sundial]

Yeah, I hope the plan is to have a dedicated multiplayer title which is updated with every major release of a campaign with weapons and vehicles from that release

[lime forge]

Anyway what would be the point of a multiplayer in the Remake ?

Seeing how is the market rn how can a Halo CE multiplayer could retain player and be perennial?

With colourful skins?

Like Come on
I'm not saying that's a good or bad things but there is no way a humble multiplayer could survive for long with not much

And i don't think the players who are not happy about no multiplayer would be happy to see one with a proper economic system with skins and everything

[left snow]

I definitely hope this is the direction they take.

[inland minnow]

this would be really awesome, especially with how the series is coming to PS5. i hope if they do this, it's a cross-platform compatible system

[quartz lotus]

i just bought the master chief collection. only played reach and 3 as a kid

gonna grind out all 6 of these campaigns. IM HYPED!!!!!!

[coarse dagger]

[outer stag]

🦎

[quartz lotus]

i just got through the assassins creed, god of war, and farcry trilogies last year

[civic sundial]

Have fun!! I recommend going in release order, so start with Combat Evolved so you can see the progression of the gameplay mechanics as the years went on

[quartz lotus]

oh yeah i plan on it. i hate chronological order for anything

plus i dont mind dated games

[civic sundial]

Fair! I know it can work for film franchises but for Halo, it definitely doesn't work for the first time playing them

[solid canopy]

That seemed to what they wanted to do with Infinite, but the engine was a mess/most of the campaign team was laid off or left

[solid canopy]

Play with classic graphics on for CE

[wooden briar]

Hope you enjoyed the AC games: incredible and thoroughly researched historical playgrounds. Enjoy your Halo journey!

And, unless you're eager to start right now, the game that started it all, CE, is being remade and releasing this year, with new prequel missions. So it'll be the definitive way to experience the first installment of the Halo release saga.

[sudden saffron]

definitive is subjective

[celest heron]

yeah, wouldn't recommend that being your first ce experience If you already have mcc.

[wooden briar]

Definitive means final/exhaustive, which CEV factually is. Now, whether it will be universally liked: not conclusive.

[sudden saffron]

Definitive also means Authoritative , a conclusive decision

[wooden briar]

It certainly does.

[lime forge]

So HS should do a multiplayer which will be played by 2000 people after 2 weeks?

[glacial tartan]

You say this until Campaign Evolved: Evolved comes out in 2034

[lime forge]

And what make you think a CE multiplayer would perform better than Infinite ?
Aside nostalgia

Because that's the only thing that make you feel that way

If a multiplayer with the content or CE came it would be bashed for lack of content and in the same way if they came with a multiplayer with a lot of content included a proper economic system like we see in all games rn people would be pissed because it would denaturate CE like they do with every change

[civic sundial]

Should be noted MCC is a collection of multiple games, not just one like Infinite is

[lime forge]

I assume they would expect a multiplayer a lot more successfull than the MCC is, all of that cost money
That's an investment you need to think about what that's gonna make you earn

[glacial tartan]

This really doesnt matter anymore though surely

[lime forge]

What is the point to develop a multiplayer who will barely be played especially when there is one surely on dev for soon?

I assume that's how they think

[civic sundial]

I think it's something to keep in mind at the least when discussing MCC numbers vs Infinite numbers

[glacial tartan]

If MCC goes offline tomorrow, Infinite likely barely goes up right

[lime forge]

Would be great that a big multiplayer game come next year or the year after and that a pontential H2 and H3 remake came with content related for the multiplayer game

[glacial tartan]

(For the record I do agree with you. Similar to how I would point out Infinite is free)

[celest heron]

I don't think they need to make either h2 or 3 and if they did I don't think it needs mp. If it did, then maybe just have a cqb option.

[wooden briar]

People knock it, but when they add 3x more pre-prequel missions about John as a baby they're going to feel so embarrassed that they doubted it.

[winged hazel]

do we have a price point for CaE? even with the three new missions i'd say it still isn't worth anything more than $30

[lime forge]

lol

[winged hazel]

hell's that supposed to mean?

[lime forge]

I think you're exagerating a bit

But the game won't obviously sell at 30 lets be honest

Well we already know what the game will have

I'll play it with gamepass but if i wouldn't have it i would buy it

I have so much hype for it

[quartz lotus]

damn for real? would it be bad to skip to halo 2 and revisit CE for the remake?

[wooden briar]

Unfortunately, yes, as CE does the initial reveals of a lot of the foundational lore on which 2 and onward build. Those revelations are a big part of CE and would be spoiled by 2 sadly.

[quartz lotus]

yeah then i’m definitely not gonna skip to 2 if that’s the case. i’m super excited to start halo but honestly, if the new CE is close and has new content then i suppose i could wait

[wooden briar]

If you want to play through Halo: Anniversary (the old remaster of CE) for the story and reveals, then later come back to Campaign Evolved (the 2026 remake of CE) for "NG+" kind of experience, that could work as well.

[quartz lotus]

honestly i’ve never been a NG+ kind of guy. i might just wait

[wooden briar]

If you're excited, then I'd hate for you to feel held back, so however you believe you'll most enjoyably experience it: that's the way to do it.

[quartz lotus]

i am but i fear once i get through what i have now, i probably wont return for the new CE

plus it’s always fun to be apart of something during the hype ya know? that’s a good reason to wait

[wooden briar]

Ah ok, well Campaign Evolved will also have 3 fully fleshed-out prequel missions that are brand-new to Halo, so that definitive CE journey may be the one to do, if you're only going to experience it once.

[wooden briar]

Agreed!

[quartz lotus]

yeah you mentioning actual new content is half the reason i’m good with waiting. the other half is hype

that’s kind of crazy though isn’t it? getting a remake and new content for a 20+ year old game

i still have AC4, Farcry 4 and Gow 4 to play. that’ll keep me busy until then

[wooden briar]

Yeah it's really cool that we can receive a full remake to essentially re-experience the foundational game with 2026 modern comforts...plus brand-new missions. Can't wait!

[wooden briar]

All excellent games, but I am especially excited that you'll be experiencing AC4 Black Flag. That is a very beloved game for a good reason.

[quartz lotus]

i played the hell out of reach as a kid. i don’t remember much, but i only remember it being fun

[quartz lotus]

black flag is the one my brother SWEARS by

[wooden briar]

Loving Black Flag is why I loved Odyssey as well: directly building on Black Flag's seafaring aspect.

[coarse dagger]

It's a fact that has no relevance to anything, nor it is anything that needs to be shared here. This shouldn't need explained. Feel free to DM @upbeat plover if you want to discuss it further

You know exactly why it was removed, so don't play that game

[coarse dagger]

See the last line of this reply

[chrome geyser]

Hey, I'm trying to set up a lan party between pc and console for mcc and my console is showing my pc account but my pc isn't showing my console account, I do have lan network set up for both

[stoic beacon]

I don't think anyone should have the CE remake as their first CE experience

Even if it's good, which I doubt

I wouldn't want people to play Black Mesa before Half Life either

[stoic beacon]

Still, MCC is a paid game and Infinite is free

I think Reach on MCC has as many players as Infinite

[wooden briar]

Once it releases, then there can be informed opinions based on actual comparison. Until then, it's just one person's own preference vs every other person's preference.

[left snow]

Hopefully it won't feel odd at all. By then we should have the next multiplayer - and they could easily have H2 and H3 throwback events to coincide with the new games (should that be the way they go).

[celest heron]

It's already been confirmed that the game will not be a 1:1 remake. Examples include the library being altered in a few different ways, we can use new weapons/wraith, hunters not dying in one shot and possible new flood being added. So while it's close to the original, it's more than likely not going to play completely the same in different parts of the game. Personally, I'd rather someone start with mcc if they're on xbox, but I don't think it's a huge deal as long as they at least experience both.

[solid canopy]

I really hope that Halo 7 leans back into how MCC handles Nameplates and Emblems

I greatly prefer being able to customize your own emblem and nameplate separately

[errant cairn]

Good take

[stoic beacon]

Is the next Halo going to be called 7

Probably not. I wonder what they will name it

And if it will ignore the story of the previous game like Infinite did. Which was a good thing

They should just completely reboot the franchise

Or tell a different story, without Master Chief

[civic sundial]

Infinite acknowledged events from Halo 5 though. Like, Cortana turning bad is a major thing the game mentioned

[stoic beacon]

Ehhh. It does so much off screen

And they changed the artstyle too since, you know, the artstyle of 4 and 5 wasn't the best

[civic sundial]

The game still acknowledges Halo 5, Chief talks about how he thinks Cortana's turn is his fault, that's in a cutscene in Infinite

[stoic beacon]

Okay, perhaps "ignore" wasn't the best term

Brush off is more fitting

[civic sundial]

Also, I doubt we'll see a reboot since they are still telling stories within the current continuity of the games. If a reboot was going to happen, stuff like Edge of Dawn wouldn't have been released

[stoic beacon]

What is the edge of dawn?

It's a book, right?

[civic sundial]

A novel set right after Infinite which sets up the game after it in the timeline

[stoic beacon]

Meh. It's just a novel. It's not like you need to read books and novels to understand the story of 343's games, right? Ahahahahahahahaha

I'm just saying that books and novels are easier to retcon/ignore

*brush off

[civic sundial]

None of the novels have been retconned out of the continuity

And you really don't need to read the books to understand anything in the 343 era games. Like, Halo 5's story isn't improved or suddenly understandable by reading any of the books which released before or after it, its failings as a narrative are simply in the game's writing

[solid canopy]

Yeah, the EU material sold with Halo 5 are mostly just character backstories which Halo 5 makes very limited use of/ doesn't really have much to do with the plot

[crisp citrus]

is it common to run into cheaters on mcc?

[crisp citrus]

for pc

[glacial tartan]

Not particularly. It depends, as there are areas where they are more prevalent, like Ranked 2s (H3) and Halo Reach CGB games.

Social matchmaking they are relatively rare. Not enough presence to warrant not playing.

[crisp citrus]

well i’m very new to the game so it’s hard for me to tell the difference between someone who is really good at the game or just cheating, but i was playing reach mp 8v8 and i was getting shot through walls, i know this because i was in a narrow hallway and on the other side of the hallway there is a window, and when i stopped moving because i was getting shot, they stopped shooting me, i guess they realized i was on the other side of the wall and not at the window, but that’s just my guess, i only played about 15 matches in total so i can’t say fs that they were cheating, but it was 1am and i was playing the same players so when i was constantly dying to headshots to the same people i thought maybe they just play a lot 🤷‍♂️

[glacial tartan]

Its more likely they play a lot vs cheating 🙂 Once youve played enough you start to very easily identify cheaters. If you want some peace of mind record a clip and I'd check it out, but yeah most cheating will be pretty blatant. Flying, hitting every single headshot ever, stuff like that 😄

[crisp citrus]

thank you i appreciate the info man

[inland minnow]

yeah i dont really hear about subtle attempts at cheating in halo, like the kind you'd find in competitively-geared shooters. its entirely godmoding from what i know

[glacial tartan]

Don’t get me wrong, it’s absolutely a thing. But these things are expensive and most of these people target big names.

Which raises a question - we ban cheaters, why don’t we also ban people who intentionally play with cheaters? There are known teams who play on their mains with someone cheating on a burner in social and it feels weird that we can never action them. Oh well

[wooden briar]

We should. 100%

[glacial tartan]

Yeah I've submitted tickets in the past but it was always the same copy/paste blah blah. They still do it daily, guess its been a while. I'll try again

[winged hazel]

it honestly just looks like 4 but with better vfx and lower framerates

[half swan]

Two betrayals on legendary broke me lmao

[celest heron]

they said years ago that they were done using numbers, but I think that was under previous leadership so maybe it changed.

[errant cairn]

Yea the halo 4 community is notorious for this bs

[north crypt]

does no one talk on mics anymore? Playing Infinite and cant get anyone to talk but they def can hear me. Asked where a Br was and someone pinged one but like 6 games in a row no mics

Miss the social part of the game

[celest heron]

been that way for years.

[flat olive]

Could someone please help me? I'm exhausted because I've been searching for a solution for almost two whole days and haven't found one. I bought Halo Infinite on the Xbox App for my laptop; it's far from an ideal PC, but it should run at a good frame rate on low-medium settings. However, the shader download gets stuck at 10%. I've tried all the options I found on Reddit, YouTube, and even contacted support, and nothing works. Does anyone have any suggestions? I really want to play this game.

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[coral orchid]

Yeah sadly it's been that way for a long time

Trust me I miss it too.

[gleaming solstice]

Anyone know why it needs 8 players minimum to start a game in MCC when you have 4 players on local?

[solid canopy]

Adding onto this, I think part of the frustration stems from how much of a victory lap it would be for them to reveal the next trailer and feature reworked models made to be more in-line with Halo CE

[solid canopy]

Mercury Rising II is such a well made mod that so successfully tweaks Halo's core gameplay that, not to run the risk of sound all "Nintendo Hire This Man", I kind of want that flavor of Halo's formula to be adapted into the official games.

[fair robin]

Does any one want to join our halo3 match on the Xbox 360 right now?

[unborn stirrup]

halo ?

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[lime forge]

Si you don't even have to buy Fanta products you can just unlock the cosmetics by playing games

[lost trellis]

NGL everytime I hear about the 3 extra missions coming to CE2 I get the feeling that 343 or HS was making a prequel game but then someone kicked in their door and screamed "WE HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER HALO CE!" and they just threw part of that other game in because they don't want it to go to waste.

[civic sundial]

We've heard barely anything about the prequel missions to indicate something like that happened

In fact, we've not had much info since the announcement in general

So not sure how you're convinced they were forced to scrap most of a whole game to make CEmake

[glacial tartan]

There is this interesting belief that anytime anything is re-used in the Halo Universe its because Halo Studios was forced to do so by big bad Microsoft

[civic sundial]

Aye, which is weird because asset reuse happens all the time in most game franchises

[glacial tartan]

Yes but its because nothing can ever be a genuine miscalculation. If something can be perceived as going even slightly wrong its strictly Microsofts fault, always. I've never how someone arrives at that mindset.

[civic sundial]

Yeah. And like yeah, there are things which are on Microsoft, like pushing deadlines and what not which they may not be ready for, but I doubt someone outside Halo Studios was going "Hey, stop making a brand new game and remake CE instead". Corporate likely wouldn't care if it was a remake or not they released first because their main focus is profits

(Which isn't to say it's impossible to happen, I just doubt it's the case with HS)

[nova basalt]

What if the “prequel” mission is set directly after the final mission of Infinite, and its the harbinger using her time manipulation to send master Chief back to halo CE

[fringe mulch]

which is better halo 3 or infinite

cuz im tryna decide which i should play

[civic sundial]

We already know what Chief was doing immediately after the end of Halo Infinite, it wasn't being sent back in time (An ability Harbinger did not demonstrate being capable of)

[winged hazel]

personally halo infinite, but if you're gonna play 3 you should just get the master chief collection

[fringe mulch]

ok thanks

[celest heron]

they're very different games. I'd say to try both out.

[ancient anchor]

mostly three because of its storyline and gameplay also the graphics were great for its time but if you want to know the story better i would play reach,1,2, and then 3

[winged hazel]

i wouldn't say reach first personally

reach should probably be played before 4 because it takes more game mechanics from that than it does from 3

[glacial tartan]

If playing through MCC go in release order, otherwise it will feel really weird

[timber vessel]

I just started playing reach with my sister ts is so peak

[civic sundial]

Hope your sister enjoys Reach

[celest heron]

ask who's her favorite character before you get too far.

[coarse dagger]

Spartan Chatter is now live!
https://discord.gg/kJJ9rmtRp?event=1489013562067259554

[lime forge]

What is spartan chatter ?

[nova basalt]

Oh right
I completely forgot about edge of dawn

[coarse dagger]

A Stage event here on Discord where members of the studio talk about different Halo novels, and answer questions from the community

[lost trellis]

As in hear about them I mean literally, not things like concrete information about them. When someone mentions them I get reminded they exist and it feels me with a feeling that it was going to be it’s own game but got slide into CE2. Which sucks because I’d gladly take a full game of shieldless Mark IV gameplay with Johnson and MC then CE2. I still am curious how HS is going to handle gameplay with MC in Mark IV and hope they don’t just give him shields for no reason.

[civic sundial]

So you're convinced that Campaign Evolved is actually a different game forced into being a Combat Evolved remake because you "felt it"?

[celest heron]

when we don't have info, our minds fill in those blanks. some can be more extreme than others.

[glacial tartan]

"whn w dn't hv nf, r mnds fl n ths blnks. sm cn b mr xtrm thn thrs."

[nova basalt]

I’d like to buy some vowels, Pat

[nova basalt]

Tough crowd today

[signal ivy]

it gave me a chuckle

[lost trellis]

No, I'm just reading the room. Let me put it simply. Someone tells you they're baking a vanilla cake and when you see it a good amount of it is chocolate. The obvious thing to ask is "were you making a chocolate cake then started making a vanilla one or did you always intend on having a mixed cake despite saying it's a vanilla one?"

[glacial tartan]

To make the analogy work, they said they were making a cake - you assumed that meant a vanilla cake, and now you're complaining that it may be chocolate.

[lost trellis]

Not really. If you're going to make a remake of a game then make a remake of a game. If you're going to add what effectively comes out as a whole expansion of content on top of it that wasn't ever there or intended to be there with the original, that's a little different. Also, complaining? No, I just find it funny that HS or 343i was finally doing something I wanted with Halo like going to the middle of the HCW and that seemingly got stomped out and turned into CE2. But either way I'll take my chocolate part of the cake with a smile. Something is better than nothing.

[nova basalt]

We’ve lost the plot

[crimson bear]

Do yall think halo 5 will ever get a pc port

[spice quest]

Yeah one day