#halo-discussion
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ok it wasn't actually that bad but it took me 2 hours to beat forerunners again (final was 3 hours cuz it counted the previous time for some reason)
what is hola
By evolution do you mean it evolved backwards? Because you're completely right if so
Halo Reach introduced armour abilities and loadouts into the series. Halo 4 continued in the direction of having those as core aspects of the game, like by adding custom loadouts and sprint being a base ability every player has access to at all times. If Halo 4 had "evolved backwards", it would've gone to something like Halo 2 or CE's gameplay
I really wonder what lies beyond the milky way on the Halo universe
That could be an interesting aspect halo studios could explore in the near future
Allot of nothing, and beyond that, other galaxies
I imagine there is stuff in those other galaxies, but I imagine we won't be getting a "Halo Andromeda" at any point
N7 Chief is an amazing pfp

Best thing about that is you can kinda make an N7 Spartan with Scorpion Punch
Missed potential
I'd love a halo Andromeda game
Or story in general
I think it'd be neat too but right now, I'd rather we see the story of the Endless continued
Maybe that will include an interdimensional gateway to Andromeda made by a civilisation far more advanced than the Forerunners, but I doubt it
That could work
Hey does anyone know where to post art on here?
Okay thanks š
Any Brazilian Halo fans here?
I have to do this every time I boot the game
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AI won't work for coding a game
We don't need remakes, Halo needs to move on from its past, not constantly look back at it
Nostalgia is gaming's biggest issue
Remakes aren't guaranteed to be good
And can just as easily fall into having the same issues as games which aren't remakes
I'd rather they not waste their time and resources on stories we've already been told
Aye
Like, we've got Combat Evolved already, we don't need it remade
And most other games that have been remade in the past 15 years have had good reasons for it, such as the original game being hard to get or being very dated in how it plays. CE isn't either of those, even with all the changes Halo has had over the years
The thing that makes a game enjoyable is experiencing it for the first time and actually wondering where the story will lead, the Bungie games have already been made, played and told their stories
Things aren't as simple as they're made out to be
So you would rather the Halo franchise become an ouroboros of constantly going for nostalgia and remaking the same stories over and over?
The story from Halo Infinite has multiple directions that they can go from, Halo 5 suffered from writing themselves into a corner, Halo infinite gave 343/HS the option to make a well written campaign that doesn't have to follow something the books and previous games had
The only thing they have to follow is the endless, Atriox and zeta halo
If they will make remastered game, then that means they are milking Halo, no new story after Infinite
The books have been self contained and generally end the day of the zeta halo conflict
Halo 5 and infinite's gameplay are good, it's not just gameplay
The things that hurt infinite were it's lack of everything except micro transactions on launch
And many people just aren't willing to give something a second chance
Infinite also had things going on behind the scenes which hurt it in the first year too
A way to fix that problem is to make the games pay to play again
But the core gameplay is solid
Contractors and leadership
Infinite works just fine for me
So no negative, Halo will continue over 100 years
Maybe on launch, but now it's more so fine
That wouldn't necessarily fix the issues Halo Infinite had
What do you play on? @crystal iron
Many of the franchise's problems stem from greed, and a way to make money without sacrificing quality is making them pay to play again
Which Xbox
And the game is still popular, it's just that when someone plays a bad game, they uninstall it and don't bother with it again, and they wait for the next one in the series to come out
With quality marketing and better communication a halo game can do well
It's not just an issue with Halo though, the majority of games have to deal with greed, even the ones I had worked on before I was laid off
They all do, but making them PtP and having minor MTX would avoid that problem
I'd still rather them just not
You're assuming the next game will abandon what Infinite has set up
They aren't going to ditch the story at all, have you read or looked at summaries of all the recent books?
Cod has the ability to
Also COD has its own host of problems
Like, how its identity is kinda gone with all the crossovers it does, seemingly in an attempt to chase after what Fortnite does
You should, but that's aside from the point I'm trying to make. All the recent books end either the DAY the conflict on Zeta halo starts or shortly after
They wouldn't be doing that unless they were planning on continuing the story from infinite
You do make a good point, but maps alone don't make people want to play multiplayer. Fun gameplay, the ability to socialize easily, custom browser, forge, etc are what make people want to keep playing
Someone knows why i keep getting banned from EaC when i try to get into a matchmaking on MCC? It's happened twice since the update
Halo Studios can't even update the game without breaking everything
That is true. Halo is definitely a game that was carried by its socialization options
Skeleton crew is working on MCC
And this doesn't even mention Steam, because it launches correctly, but the problem it's when i try to join a matchmaking match
No clue then
š Worse
Make a ticket
Like 4v4 halo reach and 3 all gamemodes selected
where? On the website?
Yeah waypoint
Then i am sure i won't get a reply
Worth a shot
I guess
I don't know if it's my RGB program doing this?
Cause I don't have many apps in the background
Ok it's a game's problem and not mine
I will stop trying to play cause if I keep trying I might get permabanned for no reason
We already have the master chief collection
Thatās not a thing.
where is it kicking you out of the match? When itās loading?
Is the mod halo new covanent campaign, fun in your experience?
Everything I've seen of that mod has be questioning allot of the decisions made for the story and level design
Yes
I've solved the issue tho. I had to go trough the game files and repair the anticheat manually
jeez, i can't even imagine how microsoft it's one of the richest industry while making so many mistakes
What platform are you playing MCC on thatās giving you the EAC error
Steam
Something getting botched in the steam update on some builds, idk why but seen a lot of complaints. Luckily its pretty easy fix
Wdym Botched
Can you share with me the Halo Support ticket # and how you fixed it, please?
As in some files seem to not update correctly.
In the dms?
Sure
Gimme some minutes to finish this game
No problem š
Me praying that cross-core for armor kits happens
imagining how cool it would be to place all the helmets on Halo 2 Chiefās armor
āLine would go down for old game thoughā
Not sure what you mean, but okay sorry for your condolences
Idk
Remember guys to ignore the trolls or those that try to instigate arguments here!
Feels good to not see these pointless words and dumb opinions :)
Not sure why youāre labelling this guy as a troll? Like even if you disagree itās not an invalid argument
No reason to be rude
who agrees there should be a few free red visors in infinite, put a check if yes put an x if no
there were some free ones no?
Scarlet Hunter and Rampant at least
maybe more
in the comics Jerome-092 beats up the flood, with a chair.
lol, love that
im saying like, common rarity, everyone gets when they start. like for armor there is cadet greay and such
this has been memed endlessly and I'm so glad its actually cannon lol
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Jerome is a chad. Right up there with master chief
How do I get Infinite to load the last checkpoint when I exit the game ? Right now, I realised there are two types of saves. Saving Checkpoint and Saving Progress. When you die, the Checkpoint Save is loaded. But if you exit the game, the Progress Save is loaded. Which means I have to play every mission in one sitting... Is this correct ?
no, my issue is that now the option to choose anti cheat flag is completely gone
the devs have fixed it already
I realised the game is automatically setting the resolution to 72 percent, making the graphics blurry when I boot it up
Why is this so ?
No new Halo movie has been made. There's been the TV show and a few web series over the years but we've never had a Halo movie
What do you mean?
You seem to have missed the trailer that released 2 hours ago.
Theres no new halo movie
man ruby rebalance ce is great
I'm eager to see their rebalance for Halo 2 be finished
Wasn't the Forward unto dawn Marketed as a movie as well as halo legends?
im simply exited
It released episodically, split up into 5 or 6 parts from what I remember. These days you'll find it as a full movie
Oh wait I forgot about fall of reach, or were those released episodically as well?
That's in four episodes, even on the DVD (Which I do have somewhere)
Forward Unto Dawn had 5 episodes and it was a web series. It was made as a marketing effort for upcoming release Halo 4. Fall of Reach (from what I can recall) was a mini-series and it had 4 episodes.
Then I guess halo legends was the only halo movie we've had technically right?
Legends isn't a movie, it's an anime anthology
All in one film?
Halo Legends is anthology film that compiles 7 animated short films. It followed the same patterns from The Animatrix and Batman: Gotham Knight. They are not movies, but episodes.
Tell me, outside of back in the Bungie days with the one that was ultimately cancelled, when were we promised a Halo film? Because you're acting like we're owed one
A good director does not guarantee a good film
Good team and good writing + cinematography is usually a good film right
The canceled one with Peter Jackson and Neil Blomkamp?
Right but those things aren't guaranteed to all lead to a good film regardless. Studio interference, problematic actors, or a whole host of other things could happen
That's the one they mean, aye
It happens with every game franchise
That was the only attempt to make a theatrical halo movie. It was supposed to come out in late 2000s, 2008-2009, but the project fell through due to several issues.
Indeed
Infinite has a skeleton crew, the rest of the devs at HS are working on new projects
And they've not released info about the new projects yet because they're not ready to talk about them
Can't wait for another Halo story
MCC is over 11 years old. It's not surprising there's not many devs working on it these days
Heck, the fact MCC even got support for as long as it did is surprising
Most games after releasing in a terrible state wouldn't be given the support they need to fix it
And I have a strange feeling that they will call it "Halo: New Dawn"
Good name for the new project
And good stories for the Weapon, Echo-216, Chief and Endless
Also, banished too
Can you tell me how common it is for a game that released in a bad state is then given support to fix it and support it for over 10 years? Because I can only think of one example
Infinite's multiplayer is functional
Like I could boot it up right now and play it without issue
Peak cinema and peak anime
It's changed enough they felt it needed a new name
But that doesn't change it being an iteration on Blam
Friendly reminder that elites were gonna look like this
And chief was going to fight his flood-infected evil brother
That's more scarier than flood infected elites
Like I don't know why people assume the movie was gonna be good
Indeed
Like, we got District 9 out of it but we could've very easily ended up with a film about Halo which was extremely terrible
Especially with a plot that would make people's heads explode like this. Y'all act like the Halo show sucks, but at least it didn't have evil flood twin brothers.
straight to dvd
Chief fighting his evil Flood infected twin brother would've 100% been memed on way more than the Halo TV show
Are you just selectively choosing to ignore Trench quite literally providing information we know about the cancelled Halo film because you can't admit that it most likely would've been worse?
Pretty sure using objective and citeable information is literally the opposite of narrow minded.
Video game film adaptations at the time in the 2000s weren't that good. It would take other 10-14 years for game film adaptations to be good and close to source material.
More citeable than "Yeah it'd be good because it just would be okay"
At least try to not be a hypocrite.
Do you happen to have access to the universe where the Halo film was made?
Because you're acting like it was bound to be a certified hit
I see we all got our cheap red cups
Eh, it's still a good drink to have
He has a twin?
No, but it was a thing we almost got in the cancelled Halo film
Gross. I remember being younger and having hype for the film rumors, but if we got John Halo 2: Flood edition? That wouldāve been rather silly
It's why I'm glad it didn't happen
Choose your poison:
Master chief having an evil twin or master chief showing his butt cheeks
I read some articles about how microsoft tried to fleece both Fox and Universal by making them fight for the IP and so getting more money out of them, what they didn't expected, is that both companies would ally together so they lost all the leverage, all bc of greed (what a surprise), the development hell the movie got into was mostly bc of economic disputes, microsoft wanted a big chunk of ticket sales, also licence fees and to get all the money from the merchandise for the movie.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with fleecing fox, honestly. It'd be a net benefit to the world if Fox entertainment in general ceased to exist utterly.
I suppose my only regret is that Microsoft ultimately failed to do so.
evil twin.
Evil twin but Iām not satisfied with the choice
imagine if the flood evolved and was capable of creating "flood canons". then they used them on "flood ships" and destroyed the halos and the ark.
We need another odst game, halo 3 remaster (long overdue for MCC) and a halo wars 3 would be epic.
Possibly have halo 3 remaster done by the same studio.
Well there was gonna be a Neil Blapkamp Halo movie but it didnāt work out well and we got District 9 instead
All my homies remember MADTV Master Chief taking someoneās daughter out on a date and meeting her parents lol
Does anyone still play Halo 5?
I don't have gamepass or Halo 5 installed so I can't tell
Its still active enough to find matches easy enough
Just dont try normal warzone because that gamemode is dead
The last movie was Fall of Reach (2016) before that it was Halo: Nightfall (2014), Halo 4: Forward Unto Dawn (2012), and Halo Legends (2010)
Fall of Reach was an animated series and it released in 2015. Nightfall was a web series and features multiple episodes, same with Halo 4 Forward Unto Dawn. Halo Legends is an anime anthology series, consisting of multiple episodes. None of those are films
Like, at this point I do have to ask, do any of y'all know what a film is?
2:43 wait time for Big Team Battle š±
BTB isn't so popular
Unfortunate
Well what is popular? Ranked is dead, 18/20 Quickplay is dead.
Even Forge Custom Lobby is dead
8 vs 8 is totally empty, I get a message saying there is not enough player in this playlist.
We are like 30 players online x)
most people at school or work right now and I doubt eu is popular.
Grapple is so short
4k csr was achieved in ranked squad battle by nas/precellence. that's crazy
I'm a huge fan of them, so maybe in the next operation HS will add them
welp this it the maw im end rubys ce rebalance
Call me emo, but I would love to see steel purple
When I was little, I could never pick whether to be blue or red, so I chose purple. And I also like purple because of red vs blue O'Malley/Doc
Still Wonder how both this film and Halo chronicles would play out
Thereās a few purple coatings out there š
Give me steel yellow/gold so I can cosplay Wash
Well, they have coatings inspired by Gundam, Evangelion and Star Wars so it could happen
Whatās the Star Wars coating?
Thereās Metroid, Eva and Gundam, but I canāt think of any solid Star Wars coatings
I don't remember the name but I know of one that is very similar to Boba Fett's color scheme
U can DM me for it
There was one in 2021 I think?
Or it's new i'm not sure
Aye, that's the one I was referring to
White would be good, and a good black (not dark gray)
Halo 5 IS a master piece when compared to the Halo tv show
Facts
Who asked
Every time someone asks, they scrap one more concept
I see
Multiple projects in development
Nah, donāt mind them theyāre just trolling
Thereās bound to be another Halo game
being insufferable is a requirement of being active here
Unfortunate
I think some of y'all need to remember a lack of news is not the same as no more Halo happening
I just was curious because I'm curious
Oh that one, yeah thatās boba fett for sure
You can make a pretty good clone with the white coating in the security bundle and MK IV
Crimson Sash! That's the name of the Boba Fett coating!!
Hey, I am very sufferable
Are we getting a pass this month?
are we expecting a march update?
Next week
There will be a new Operation starting March 11th
Cool
Is Disciple ever going to be removed from matchmaking rotation for maintenance?
been filing tickets for over 5 months ^_^
took me 20 minutes to fix the map with minimal forge experience XDXDXD
Anyone else notice that they added a slight animation to your spartan on the main menu? It's not locked in place anymore in the stance. Just played yesterday and didn't notice it so they must've added it today
A new dawn 293428
And we have moved to unreal engine 9
The graphics are so real, itās like youāre in the game
Will there be a new game mode next operation?
Probably, they usually have one per operation which is consistent
I hope itās PVE focused because Iām a chill back player now
When's SnD Extraction arriving? I would assume that's the next mode to be added to Infinite alongside an operation
But aye, more PvE stuff would be great for Infinite
Later on, this year for S&D Extraction to arrive.
Ah, thanks
Yeah later this year, not sure what month could be the Summer Update
April I think?
I think Frontlines was the Spring update, so that'll prolly be Summer
halo
I sometimes wonder what happened to that Arbyān the Chief guy
He's still around.
He shows up here and there on podcasts
If you want to look him up, he's Jon Graham on Youtube.
Can't promise you'll like his new stuff though.
Yeah I just found out what the heck, thatās awesome
does supernatural/psychological horror and sci-fi work well together
Yes?
dead space
for e.g a demon that likes to torture mortals
You can do literally anything with sci-fi.
Sci-fi horror is a whole subgenre
And like Hannibal mentioned, Dead Space is a psychological horror game in a sci-fi setting
japanese demons plus sci-fi
a demon that curses men that cheat on their girlfriend
Hm yes. I remember fighting those in Halo 3
hmm, playing ff and the post game loading screen to get to the stats seems to be taking a lot longer than usual.
Whatās the best way to level up
Firefight
I wonder if we're gonna get invasion or dominion as returning modes
Well HS was asking for community made Invasion maps a while back so I imagine a version of the mode is coming to Infinite
And Dominion evolved into Warzone for Halo 5, but it would be nice to have either of those two return at some point
I know we dont have playable elites in infinite but I think having banished Spartans can be of use for UNSC vs banished using the Spartan woman who's name I forgot and iratus as announcer voice lines for their teams
I doubt they'll be recording new voicelines for Invasion, I imagine the people who are in charge of dialogue are on the other projects HS has in the works
My bet is if Invasion shows up in Infinite, it'll be reusing audio from Reach's mode for the announcer
best hope is that it's in the next game.
Hey guys! Today is my 37th birthday! And I would love to host a Halo Infinite game night, probably in game chat so I can gather as many friends from different communities as I can. I havenāt tried this before, but I would love to bring people together to make this happen.
I thought Iād share here since I play with some of you in BTB vc here from time to time
If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:
#lfg-competitive ā For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social ā For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other ā For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-espaƱol ā Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categorĆa de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams ā To help you find a team or secure some scrims
Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.
Yeah, i guess that would be a better place for it
Hi, I have a question, if I get the operations pass, I will be able to progress through it any time I want right? It won't disappear, right?
Correct
Thanks.
Is it just me or is MCC very slow after the update? Loading a campaign mission takes 2 minutes whereas before it took 15 seconds
Works on my machine.ā¢
It took 5 seconds before for me
Back to daylight savings guys
So updates will be 1PM my time and shop update will be 12 PM
Est? Central? Western?
So do we hate fun at halo or what? Can we just get a halo 2 ( best ranking system) or halo 3 remake
None of them
Halo moving to future, not to past
A dystopian future where malicious hiring techniques and overworking staff make the game suffer immeasurably just so the shareholders can make 2 extra cents on the dollar maybe š
I honestly find Halo Infiniteās MP to be the best middle ground between old and new gameplay
The grappling, sprint, sliding and vaulting nonsense isn't a decent middle ground between old and new Halo.
It's not even Halo at all. Titanfall is right over there.
Take me back to the past, cause this present timeline of ours is š© .
Is there no extra Career XP in FF anymore when playing higher difficulty?
Halo 2 almost had sprint
Happy Birthday Master Chief

What are you talking about lmao?
How is it Titanfall? You cant even call a mech in Halo!
Look I get that you want Titanfall 3 but EA wonāt let it happen
I don't think it was almost, but more tested in the early stages.
If game 1 has similar mechanics to game 2, then clearly game 1 is basically the same thing/worse
Halo has guns and a player character, so itās basically the same thing as Goldeneye or Doom
Yeah if people say that COD is a clone of Halo then Halo is a clone of GoldenEye and GoldenEye is a copy of Quake and Quake is a copy of DOOM. FPS gamers be like: š¤Æ
I can't imagine looking at all the awesome movement techs that exist in games and going "Y'know what, no, I want to be lame and boring", but I suppose that's why you have the username you do.
For a franchise people claim 'innovated', Halo's fans really want to fall so far behind the curve they think they're ahead. Embarrassing mindset.
How freaking Call of Duty, especially modern Call of Duty, is somehow continually figuring out players like moving like they aren't wearing clown shoes and actually enjoy having freedom and agility in movement instead of 'clonk clonk clonk clonk clonk clonk', while Halo fans are screaming and clawing to go back to stumbling around in the damn dark ages will never make sense to me.
There's definitely changes I'd like to see from Infinite to the next game in regards to the base player abilities and movement, but I don't see a need to remove sprint, slide or clamber in any sense
Trenchbird's entire opinion on how Halo's gameplay should change ^
Unironically, I want them to bring back thruster packs being a base part of the player's kit. With players being able to toggle whether they want to use a piece of picked up equipment or utilise the thruster pack while in combat
Which could potentially allow for some really interesting plays being made using the thruster and a grapple
I'm not against stabilise coming back, so long as it functions basically the same as it did in Halo 5, but ground pound I don't think is needed
And Bungie thankfully scrapped it.
The fact you see CoD has the example to follow is exactly the issue here. 343i also had the very same idea!
Do you want some cheese with that whine?
Or are you more of a charcuterie fan?
I could go for some cheese actually
Man, i could really go for a prosciutto sandwich right about now.
And this franchise isn't Halo anymore. It's some trend chasing monstrosity that appeals to barely anyone.
I want the gameplay to always feel fun and fresh
If every Halo game was like 1, 2, or 3 it would get boring and stale real fast
Agreed
Thatās why I invent change and innovation to the gameplay instead of keeping it the same formula.
What Iād like to see is a 64 man BTB lol that would be funny and chaotic
Which is why I wasn't looking at those three specifically for my ideas. Like, I think Infinite's equipment system and the base abilities the player has is nearly perfect for Halo and there's not much needed to change it. Just a slight increase in movement speed while sprinting (Like 5% more than what it is in Infinite currently) and a bunch of new kinds of equipment and I'd be happy
Itās really hard for reviewers and gaming nerds to keep comparing Halo to other FPS already in the market what has been already done
Plus my aforementioned idea with the thruster pack
Like everyone says Titanfall, like I get the hype behind Titanfall. I think someone like SplitGate should stay in its own lane because it needs to do its own thing
I don't see 64 player BTB happening any time soon, but I definitely would like to see something done with a larger lobby
At least as an experiment
Iād like for the modern and newer games to be noob friendly and nothing too complex or something of a curve ball to get through like CE and 2.
But I also think the next game needs to launch with some sort of dedicated PvE mode outside of the campaign and would rather resources go there than making an even bigger BTB
While at the same time not treating the player like theyāre a toddler and doesnāt know how to play a game. Which is why I advocate for more PVE game modes because theyāre more casual
Then leave.
And stop using a Reach pfp, hypocrite.
Reach is the trend-chasiest Halo of all time and it's always been so quiant that Reach fans choose to ignore that.
Nah, I don't think I will.
Also, I like Reach's artstyle and armor design.
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Trend-chasers gonna trend-chase, Reach is no exception.
Just saying, liking Reach but hating trend-chasing is the proverbial glass house and throwing stones of Halo.
Yep, Bungie began chasing trends from CoD with Reach. You won't find me defending their design decisions for that game.
abilities are fine as long as they compliment gameplay. the fact that a lot of them got nerfed with some over the course of different games (sprint is a good example) is very telling that you can't just add something for the sake of having it. the plus side is at least HS was trying to balance the ones that had glaring flaws.
Halo needs more sandwiches like in Infinite
I for one, argue Halo needs less sandwiches. I feels like itās chasing old meme trends and losing potential players by referencing old memes
This is satire. I couldnāt care less about a Sandwich forge object
Well Machinima is being given a second chance thanks to the community and all, I feel that offers spirit to the fanbase with the camera controls.
I didnāt think the sandwich was an old meme, just jokingly saying that some funny stuff like that is needed lol
ooh, playlists will finally be condensed in this next operation.
i just wanted to share a fact that is known but i thought it was funny, i started Halo 3 legendary and i didn't know Arby could actually die
So now his corpse is just there
Props to the devs for condensing the Composer Matchmaking
He'll get better
I used to fire bomb him to take his sword and stuff, he respawned eventually.
Does the Halo show have spoilers for the game? I havenāt played Halo 3 yet
No, the TV show and games take place in separate time lines
Brute plasma rifle and other brute weapons should make a comeback
The fact that 343i shafted the Spiker and the Brute Shot (really?) for a Brute centric game is still baffling to this day.
I miss the brute shot, but I can't say I miss the spiker
Nah man there is a reason only 4K people are playing this on a Friday
You're playing Halo Infinite
I am
Thatās how I know itās not as good as old halos
This will never not be funny.
https://steamcharts.com/cmp/976730,1240440
Also thereās more than 4K players in this game everyday. Just everybody uses that Steam statistics which doesnāt account for 66% of the player count. Not many take in console or what not.
It's the only metric we have. It would be nice if Microsoft would release the player counts for both Halo Infinite and the MCC on all platforms, but we do not live in that world.
Best message at night is queue times may be to long to find a game
Does anyone know of any good mods they can recommend for halo games? I havent touched any despite having played through all of them.
Anyway, I love Halo Infinite so much. Can't wait for the future updates and hope everyone has fun!
we love Miku
The entire sandbox could have been expanded though
Being the only metric shouldn't make you base everything off it
If you have alternative data, I'm all ears.
Cursed Halo
ask the entire population of earth one-by-one
Go for it, champ. I'll be right behind you, promise.
I wish we could see the prometheans fighting the flood in a actual game
That Would be awesome
Yeah, but have the flood evolve to take over machines
That would'nt be cool
I rather see the flood infecting forerruners rather than prometheans
Well not as easily as humans, theyd have to painfully integrate themselves with the machine.
Instead of having a lot theyd be pretty rare
The Flood has never directly controlled machines entities, the Gravemind did utilise the Logic Plague on Mendicant Bias but it's not the same as a biological entity being infected
The Flood can't do that, under 343i lore. The Prometheans were made explicitly for that purpose.
They can still pilot and control machinery if they have an interface.
Still, Flood cyber warfare seems to be under developed in the lore, in both in Bungie and in 343i Halo.
Right but they can't infect a Promethean Knight like they would a fleshy human
Like, they're basically space zombies, last I checked, zombies aren't building computers
u are captured and turned by the Flood, it's over. But instead of looking for another host for contamination, u are kept in a small room and your form tries to build a gaming pc for the gravemind
Thats why i said "evolved" it could be a fun little spin off series like "what if..."
It's not about alternative data, it's about just plain complete data
The flood are more than zombies and yes they've corrupted systems. Even in Saturn Devouring his Son, the flood subverts the forerunner ship's systems to release the flood
And we'll never ever have complete data.
I mean, their username does have the word lazy in it.
Where's your data, Trenchbird? People keep talking about data that isn't Steamcharts, and I've yet to see it.
And you won't. But don't pretend that steam is all there is. That sounds a bit like object permanence stuff right there
It's not, but it's the only thing we have.

why, so we can get brilliant hurr look how dead the game is takes? everyone knows the reality so it's not going to serve them any favors to post them anymore.
I feel like itās worth mentioning that MCC is 6 halo games versus one
6 old games VS one new game that is also free (the multiplayer part).
Their point is not (at least in full) about having Xbox numbers
its about the fact that the Steam metric isn't everyone playing. sure there's maybe like 4k or whatever on Steam, but there'd also be around that on Xbox too (maybe more, maybe less, idk, but still)
And my point is with the only metric we have, MCC is more popular than Infinite, which is funny.
True
both are far less popular than Age of Empires 2
Good for AoE II.
fixed mb
Your good
Also, check out my IWHBYD post

oof, playing so bad today
Yeah same š
Hola
@ebon island Cheating wonāt ever be completely removed, there have been a ton of improvements made though yes. Unless you play exclusively ranked youāre not going to run into them really ever, let alone āoftenā. Hope that helps.
last cheater I ran into was like 7 or 8 months ago in h3 btb.
Cheating in video games, and fighting it, is an eternal struggle.
You'll always have people wanting to cheat. It's a fact of life.
Should I get MCC?
Yes, it's a six in one package
For the multiplayer? Sure, but do take not that Halo 3 and Reach are the most active.
For the singleplayer? Definitely.
Halo Reach is definitely one of the best games in the series imo, since I'm a single player person. The single player is simply a masterpiece and I won't hear anything otherwise. It's up there with ODST and 3 for me
Halo 2 though has two of my all time favorite halo missions. The new Mombasa levels are peak
True
whats up with this cross core glitch i keep hearin about?
It's a glitch that allows specific items to appear on different cores within the menu
just watched a video of it, hope it becomes a true feature in the game
and now, ill try it out
oh wow, it actually works
i can even customize the armor pieces on kits
Still sucks we can't make custom kits though
i want to make a gordon ramsay kit
Random but funny 
I need Meowster Chief darnit
Any idea what will be in tomorrow's update? Besides shop update and new operation? New mode? New map? Any bug fixes? Anything else?
i havent heard so i guess we wait until the trailer
there was show about some extraction thing idk if thats old news havent played in a bit
What are the common roles for ODSTs
I recommend asking that question in #lore-and-universe but they're basically specialised soldiers utilised for multiple kinds of operations, ranging from deep infiltration behind enemy lines to securing high value targets/assets, which standard marines are not the best equipped to do
kinda like special forces
you people excited for remakes of some games?
3900 creditsššš(buying it anyways)
no exchange refresh?
Previous operation isnāt available to buy to complete it?
Seriously, not even anything related to shamrock for Saint Patrick š„² the operation is filled with Spartan Point which I canāt spend because I already got everything.
Real I love saint Patrick
So,
Does the new Operation pass not include any special items behind a paywall anymore?
Like the tier 1 items that used to be available when buying the pass for 500?
still does i think
Doesn't seem to show it on Waypoint
It does
its Kelly's white coating
The free coating you get with BP looks exactly like Ultra Void with slight yellow details. Differences are found on some attachments such as shoulders( noticable on wolf , dragon,) which have grey details.
Anyway, looks like the exchange is running a little late perhaps?
That ones not the free coating
Grey Rabbit is
Mb! I meant the 500 cr exclusive
all good lol
Apparently you can get like 3k
I don't mind it giving loads, it'll be great for grinding
Which for me is more than fine
Honestly yea
It'll be great for pass grinding (if I can get good matches)
Halo gang
Fellas, I see a small bug with the new armor
The MK VI Gen 2 Mod Arm piece isn't equippable even though you have it
Halo 2 or 3ās bug?
They're talking about Infinite
yee
And yeah, I hope it's something that gets fixed quickly
yeah same
dont think it gives a lot of career xp though
it should I think
Ik Recon mentioned someone getting like 13k
oh maybe i just suck at the game then idk
idk
I'll try it at some point and see
Since I already get like 6k a match from Gruntpoc Fiesta
ive just been grinding firefight fiesta tryna get to hero rank
been getting rlly boring though
nice new battle pass
I feel u
I have prolly like 350 hours on FF alone (or more)
which mode specifically?
just normal Fiestafight?
Make sure and submit a bug report, if you haven't already :)
Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.
Just did!

I'll give it a shot soon
without infinite ammo it'll prolly be less score anyway, bc that's how I get most of my score in Gruntpoc Fiesta
im so used to having the grappler that i keep throwing my repair fields onto the enemies
i wonder if classic firefight is better for xp than koth firefight
battlepass xp is crazy
career im not so sure yet
6000xp for one run
Not bad, huh?
the new one?
Yes
ok im probably just awful at the game
with or without a boost
With
ohh talking about battlepass xp?
yea
3k without a boost
6k with
this wouldve been real useful when i was finishing up the 100 tier passes
Like, from tier 1 i jumped to 9 tier
lolllll
i got 12k exp in one match
tough to get high score cuz randoms finish the match
what?
they can just end the match whenever they feel like it??
theres a hill that spawns after the 3 rounds iirc
they just jump in it without thinking
thats going to be annoying
known issue and somethign we're actively working on!
if you bought the bundle and don't have the wrist piece, hang tight. we'll be granting it to you
Actually I encountered a strange bug or issue
I bought a "Blue Team" bundle
Some time later, in the shop it counts that I can buy it again
But Fred and Linda pack(in separate) is counting that they bought them
But Chief's separate bundle not counted that I bought
But as I said before, I bought only a bundle for 3900 credits
And some pieces I can't use
Yes thatās part of the known issue
my career xp still has the visual bug
Hey
Anybody knwo why I can buy the Blue Team battle pass for 500 credits but everything in it is free anyways? Am I missing something??
There's a coating that's payed
the very first slot in the pass shows it
It guarantees you can still progress through it even after this operation ends. Plus you get a free coating
Honestly kind of a mid extra item, IMO, compared to weapon models.
Eh. Someone likes it though, I'm sure.
So I bought the Blue Team pack full price but didnāt get Chiefās wrist plate. Why is that?
bugged
^
Okay thank god
Aww man that sucks
This is the only reason I'm hesitant to play FF classic tbh
I wish they just had a lives system like Reach or sumn
yea you pretty much gotta go lfg
thank you merty very cool
I am indeed, very cool 
I hope I can be as cool as you when I grow up
It's all about the fans that make it possible š„¹
I have a cheap fan sitting about a meter away from me, is that good enough?
Wait no! Two fans, I have a tiny handheld watermelon themed fan
A cheap floor fan is better than an expensive Dyson fan, and that claim was scientifically proven 
Oh worm
I'm honestly more curious about what caused the issue to begin with...
I don't think I've encountered anything like this before since getting the game a few years back or so...
Hot swap is fire š„š„š„
So you guys think there will be a osiris battle pass?
I'd be down for it
you should have a UA/LOCKPLATE now!
tariffs hit the halo infinite shop, this is unreal (engine)
So what do i do when I crash (something that is completely out of my control) 5 times in a row mid game and get banned from playing what am I supposed to do
You wait till the ban is lifted
But what about UA/LOCKEPLATE?
There isn't a game I've ever heard of that will differentiate between a crash or a quit.
Does infinite still not have rejoins? Rejoin feature helps a lot in a game that constantly crashes (thanks MCC!)
Not unless you're in a party with the game you dropped from.
Though, personally, I don't mind that. If I drop from a game I usually don't want to rejoin that match.
Would depend on when the game crashes I guess.
question, has anyone else been stuck at the "press enter to play" screen, bc i cant get into the game
it says its loading, then i get the prompt to press enter again
Just put it on! Thanks
Playing the new firefight (classic mode)
My second game, and Ithis is probably the most fun I've ever had playing Infinite ever.
I feel allot more in control of where and how I engage with the Banished. Which likely comes from the lack of a specific hill to defend
I do still think a version of Firefight inspired by Halo 5's Warzone Firefight would be cool to see
My buddies and I are running a 10v10 tonight with another clan, if you would like to join and have people to run with daily let me know! We mix between ranked and social players in Venezia.
We need 3 more signups

did Halo Studios forget to update exchange?
No, it's changed as far as I know. Try reloading your game
Yeah, it updated yesterday, be odd if someone was still seeing the old exchange
please consider getting rid of the complete mission thing in the new firefight mode
Yep! It's there now, thanks. I checked yesterday when the update released and it wasn't there, loaded it today and it is good now.

So, I thoroughly enjoyed Halo Infinite while playing on my old gaming pc, but after being forced to switch to my old Xbox One S the game feels relatively unresponsive and as such I'm growing to prefer playing The MCC, but I can't find any other players in modes like Swat, Firefight and a couple other modes. If you also play MCC and have a spare slot in your team of 4 for a firefight for example, lets play.
Also, if anyone knows how to optimise it Infinite on xbox one s please help.
Example of "unresponsive" is i go to turn and theres a delay, and when i stop turning with input im still spinning making hitting anything impossible.
Wifi is running perfect
Im curious what exact games/gametypes you're selecting? (Ive played a lot of swat recently and havent had issues finding games, but I dont include reach/H4)
So, specifically the gamemodes im trying to load are as follows and this is how many games ive actually found in each.
Firefight Matchmaking so heroic fight, arcade fight, blam fight, sniper fight and floodfight - all together no games found. Precision Slayer only found one game. Zone control found no games. Swat found no games. Grifball found no games.
So like, not every mode, but a good amount of them. And cant seem to find anything no matter how long i leave it to search. Yet all other games installed will find an online match, and other consoles all find matches on their games too...
Oh and as for which halos, i leave them all selected at all times as i love them all
Interesting; thanks for responding š I assume you're not blocking any servers?
Not blocking any servers.. to my knowledge. How would I check? And no, thank you for responding.
Options and Career -> Settings -> Network
So metwork is set to xbox live. Relays set to off, input-based matchmaking disabled. Platform based matchmaking disabled. All servers have a check in the box, assuming it means they're selected
You'll want to address this in #1075989764026675210 instead of here as that's where the resident tech big brains are.
Oh, right. Sorry and thanks š
Where is the Halo Wars 2 channel?
here
There are several players cheating in Halo Wars 2 Blitz. I already sent a ticket, but they were banned for only 30 days. They should come back and play Halo Wars 2 Blitz still cheating.
If you see them cheating and report again, their next ban should be longer.
search h3 team slayer! looking for games on mcc
It's not better to patch illegal programs and prevent them from being used, rather than report them.
You're right, you should just never report something bad and let perfection be the enemy of good when it comes to a decade-old video game that hasn't seen meaningful support in most of a decade.
@onyx latch Forgotten games, I don't think so, because Halo Infinite is still played and updates are made, and there are still players using illegal programs.
I must have missed the update that made Halo Infinite a decade old strategy game, my bad.
@onyx latch Even if they are decades old, since the games are hybrid PC and Xbox games, of course they already have the advantage of playing from the PC with illegal programs, even if they are decades old.
Yeah, I think the price of butter in China is pretty excessive too.
Not sure what it has to do with you deciding to complain without an inkling of relative priority, release date, or contextual relevance, though.
@onyx latch Why do you talk about decades of the games are still valid? I see you use illegal programs because of the way you express yourself.
Yeah, I guess Discord is problably illegal in some countries.
Who's talking about Discord? No one here talked about Discord. If you were offended, what I said isn't my problem. I commented here about the illegal programs they use to win in games like Halo Infinite. According to you, the game is a decade old. jajaja
No idea if that's right, I don't speak Spanish.
eso le digo que solo halas de dƩcadas y juegas halo no me haga reir jajajajaaj es que decadas jajajaaj
I literally just told you I don't speak Spanish.
I just assumed you did because of the 'jajajajajaja' thing.
I don't speak Spanish and you write in Spanish jajajajaj
jajajajaja
There's this magical tool called https://translate.google.com/?sl=gd&tl=en&op=translate
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But hey, whatever, have fun with your circus.
He spends his time talking about decades on Discord. ajajajajaj
Why did you delete the message in Spanish? jajajajaj
There's this magical tool called https://translate.google.com/?sl=gd&tl=en&op=translate
Google Translate
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Let's move on please
ajjajaja
lol
Did you know that the longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he will become
Slayer
The longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he will become
Most people would generally recommend starting from the beginning and playing in release order
so combat evolved?
alright i'll see
None of them are bad choices
The lore and gameplay vary, to follow them cerebrally, follow 1+
stars wars that thing
lore speaking, I would recommend you start from Halo Reach but gameplay wise then Combat Evolved first
Actually
Halo wars 1 should be first in lore
Halo Wars 1 -> Reach -> Halo CE -> Halo 2 -> Halo 3 ODST -> Halo 3 -> Halo 4 -> Halo 5 Guardians -> Halo Wars 2 -> Halo infinite (if in lore storyline)
Is there a reason why you canāt buy the last season pass anymore?
The way passes work was changed beginning with the last operation. You can now only buy a pass during its active period. Once the pass ends, it's no longer available to purchase.
What will happen, though, is that the items from the pass will be made available at a later date. The free track items will go to the Exchange and the paid track items will go to the store
There's a more detailed version of the change in the Spring blog
https://aka.ms/SpringUpdate25
i greatly dislike it
I started from there but no
if its meant to not be hidden dont tell them
Oops
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Is MCC multiplayer still unplayable?
Iāve tried searching for a match for over a week now and still canāt find a game. What is going on?
Iām trying to reach Tour 11 for the Eagle icon, Iāve got 6 levels to go, and now Iām stressed it wonāt happen because I canāt get into a game š¢
Been working on this grind for 3+ years.
Are you on the microsoft store version? Ive heard people saying its not working for them, and I havent seen any acknowledgement from 343 on it.
Let me know if you're on that version š we can troubleshoot past it
Yeah I think it is, as I donāt play it through steam lol
Ty for reaching out, greatly appreciated!! ā¤ļø
What region are you?
Australia, I think Iāve fixed it now, I threw on all the regions including the 600ping ones, now it has let me find a match, not on the high ping servers though š¤·š»āāļø
So very strange lol
Hi
Hi
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someone here
Saw the game got some update, apparently there is some new firefight mode or something
Correct
Firefight Classic
I enjoy the firefight classic. I much prefer it over the KOTH firefight
What would happen if the future Halo multiplayer increased damage by 30%? In other words, the BR can take out another Spartan in 3 bursts.
In other words, gun fights will be less monotonous with a slightly increased TTK. It's not on the level of Call of Duty obviously, but it's noticeably faster.
Call of Duty is right over there. Halo has been CoDified enough thanks to 343i.
That was Halo 4.
In Halo 4, you had custom classes, perks, streaks, etc. Afterwards, it was the basic Halo formula again.
Why make Halo more like Call of Duty in the first place?
I'm not saying make it like Call of Duty. I'm saying making the TTK a little faster to make the gunfights less monotonous.
So make Halo less Halo and more like Call of Duty.
Did you hear the part where I said that wasn't what I was talking about?
High TTK is quintessential Halo. If Halo Studios has any sense, they wouldn't listen to people like you and try to go back to the slower, more "monotonous" Halo gameplay.
Considering Halo Infinite is pretty much dead, it needs some new feedback at this point.
Just like the match composer. I mentioned it was way too much and it needed to be slimmed down. It took them nearly a year to do something about it, but it's still way too much.
Both of y'all have dumb arguments
If you want fast ttk go play tac slayer (swat) if you want normal gsmeplay just go play normal modes
Wait i forgot what ttk is lol
ttk = time to kill
I prefer it way more but I also get bored of it quicker tbh
When do yall think Halo 7 is out?
At some point between now and the release of Halo 8
I am absolutely livid
I didn't realize that the Hellcat event would be a limited time thing and I didn't get a chance to unlock it. Now it's vaulted so FML I guess
finished 3 laso's in a day
that isn't too hard IMO, unless you did Halo 2 LASO
Weāll prolly do that one last
I saw that there was an update that changed the xp gain from firefight to "intended values". I am assuming that was a nerf as the xp gains were very high before.
How much has it been lowered though?
yeah, it was nerfed, but don't know the values.
I wish I could test but I already finished this operation
On reddit I saw a comment on this saying after 1 set the XP went from 900 to 200 š
That's quite the adjustment.
does anyone have a file share gamertag for halo 3 garbage man/trash compactor wtv its called?
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I said faster. When I say that, I mean just slightly faster. In other words, I'm not suggesting a battle rifle wipe people out and one or two bursts. I'm talking more like three or four instead of the usual five or six.
It's usually 4 or 5 bursts to take out another player, not 5 or 6
And that's why I say three to four would be good because of increased consistency and less monotony.
And speaking of less boredom, I've always complained about the respawn timer being 8-10 seconds. 5 seconds is a sweet spot, but 4 would be very nice. That includes objective games.
I once suggested a possibility of 5v5 has the norm, but if that doesn't work, the maps would be more intricately designed for smaller engagements with 4v4. The bigger maps can always be utilized for 8v8, which should be the standard big team size without anything going over (or possibly having AI opponents and teammates to serve as fodder).
Making the BR more effective will make it a must use, even moreso than it is already
I'm not just talking about the BR. It's every weapon.
Depending on the strength obviously, the general norm would be approximately 30% extra damage.
Like, if it killed in 3/4 bursts, it'd completely overshadow the Bandit, Commando, Stalker Rifle and most of the other weapons in the sandbox
And that's why other weapons would get the same treatment.
So basically you want to do a net buff to all weapons?
Essentially, although very carefully, an overall faster TTK, but nothing obscene. Probably reducing the time by about half a second or slightly more.
Combined with the earlier mentioned respawn timer reduction, try to make the game a bit more engaging and less sluggish. Not on the Call of Duty level as some people are accusing me of trying to make it.
š why tf did the wonky ahh bot delete that friggin braidnead
I need help cuz halo 4 crashes the MCC for me, says D3D device lost some crap like that when i try launching that. anyone got an idea why?
anyone?
Buddy, the minimum amount of shots for a br kill is 4 bursts
Actually it might be 3, I dont remember off the top of my head
What I know is that whst you're asking for is literally how it is alresdy
You definitely havent seen how pre-season 4 ranked was
pretty sure its like 3 and 2 bullets or sumn weird
It's usually 5 bursts to kill
I'm talking about for a perfect kill
Aye, so am I
Yea no ADV is right, I'm like 99.9% sure
I think its 4 bursts and like 2 bullets or sumn (ik its not a full last burst to get a Perfect)
Aye
That doesnt sound right at all
I think the only time where 4 bursts get you a perfect was the MLG settings for Halo 3
Som1 check plz
I'd go and check rn, but I gtg, so I can't
Its been 4 since season 1
But I haven't played those settings in ages so cannot confirm that
In which mode(s)
bc the Ranked BR I think has a slightly faster TTK than normal I think
So in Ranked it might be 4
Eh, f it, I'll go check rq
The normal ones, ranked might be different but I rarely pick up brs in ranked
4 bursts for the normal one (prolly 3 and 2 bullets)
and it seems the same for the Ranked one but idrk
I can only do that one in a custom and I can't freeze bots there
Use the training mode, you can tell the bots to not move or shoot
I did for the normal BR, but I can't get the Ranked variant in training
but they both seem the same overall tho
Why are people still allowed to follow you around all game shooting you in the back but not get kicked? Every single game.
There is no way to reasonably track this kind of stuff.
Record your gameplay and send proof to the support website. Do not report ingame, it's a waste of time.
I just deal with it tbh
I dont let it bother me
And that's why they do it. Because there is zero punishment and people don't care.
Didnāt know where to post this, so Iām putting it here, but I made a 55 second video about Halo Reachās deaths (if the link works)
Halo isn't COD. A super fast respawn timer would make map control almost impossible.
110%.
And not just map control. You deserve time to run the objective while the enemy respawns. To collect ammo. And for your shields to recharge.
There needs to be consequence to dying.
h4 was probly the closest to that with instant respawns in slayer and shorter times in objective.
I never said it was supposed to be like Call of Duty. In COD, the minimum amount of time you have to wait after skipping a killcam is around 1.5 seconds. I'm talking about something more reasonable for Halo, which is 5 seconds on average (including objective modes). That's definitely nowhere near what Call of Duty respawns are. If you are an OG, 5 seconds was actually the normal timer for a lot of the games.
Personally, the timer itself isn't tied with map control. It's the severe advantage in certain objective modes. If you manage to wipe out most of the enemy team, it'll take them 10s to respawn and even more just to get back to the objective. That's at least nearly half a minute or more of an uncontested point lead.
Not only do I think there should be more adversity, but people should be playing more instead of watching the kill cams. Yes, not dying definitely helps, but dying is also inevitable. I would rather have more flow, action, and increased play time to keep things engaging.
Of course, there are exceptions, like the one life modes. Obviously, you need to watch the kill cams if you die because you can only respawn next round
Map Control is absolutely still a thing in COD, in fact it's one of the few things you can mostly control against enemies. It's amusing that people think otherwise.
It is, but Halo respawn timers are not directly involved with map control. I just want a more engaging experience with faster times to get back in the action.
Yeah, I get that, it's more a tacit agreement with your position on my part.
Ahh ok. Yeah, Call of Duty respawn timers are near instantaneous and you can still battle for the better spawns and map control.
If anything it lessens the power of map control, making it easier to cause a scoreboard upset.
Thus increasing overall competition.
in ranked or normal arena?
because in ranked you get kicked for teamkilling
in modes outside of ranked it literally does not matter because they can't do anything to you
This might be a controversial opinion, but I think ranked playlists should either be gone or condensed into one single rotational mode. There's not enough people to support it and having four separate selections is unnecessary.
ARE SERVERS DOWN
You get one free team kill I believe
No I think its more but you have to consistently do it
For the MCC achievement āDemonā which is for finishing a Halo 2 mission without dying on Normal or harder, you can save and quit, load up the last checkpoint, and if you donāt die from that checkpoint onwards itāll give you the achievement even if you died before that checkpoint
Thats not how that works. Decreasing the power of something that takes skill is the opposite of competitive.
It sounds like a skill issue if you can't compensate for a power loss.
But then, complaining that things are harder to handle is par for the course for your average competitive whinging exam, so. I guess it comes with the territory.
What? No it just makes it so learning map control, something that has skill, isn't as important anymore. Meaning it is less competitive. There is no "skill issue" here.
Again, sounds like a skill issue; failiure to properly compensate for a shifting battlefield situation.
If you cannot maintain control just because the enemies spawn faster, you are encountering a failure of your capabilities. A failiure to rise to the challenge is a failing between seat and monitor.
You should be punished if you lose map control though. Not being thoroughly punished for a mistake you made via a lack of skill is the opposite of competitive.
Cool, so we're on the same page. You should be punished for failing to keep up for map control because enemies spawn faster, ergo enemies spawning faster is a higher challenge against your skill. Ergo, the failing to handle faster spawning is an issue of competence, not an issue of design.
The defending control players are punished for failing to keep up; The attacking players are punished for failing to take advantage, if they continue to fail. Additionally, faster respawns incur a further penalty of lacking a cooldown breath, meaning you are more likely to get heated and thus make mistakes, another layer of skill added.
But decreasing the respawn timer only punishes the people who have map control and benefits the people that don't
Yes, I literally just said that, thank you.
Not sure where the disconnect is here. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I think decreasing the superior position's advantage in order to make things more difficult is a bad thing.
You are right that decreasing the respawn timer would mean that you would need a lot more skill in order for map control to be as powerful, however this would make it so that team A would need to be a lot better than team B to gain a significant advantage, which decreases skill expression.
Let me state this as clearly as I humanly can; Map Control should be one of the single hardest things to maintain in a game. Ever. At all. Strictly due to how powerful it is.
Sounds like Team A should express their skill more then.
Instead of sucking at the video game.
After all, if Team B gains map control, and it's sooooo easy to regain it, then Team A, if they are worth anything at all, should be able to reattain map control. And then, hopefully, redress the failure that led to them needing to regain control.
Or, alternatively, Team B wins due to the advantage, then retains map control despite that being more tenuous of a position, that would mean Team B is then the superior team and thus expressing the difference in skill between B and A in B's favor.
It would cause a lot more close games and less one-sided ones, meaning that the better team could end up in a very close match and even losing
If you lose you aren't better.
If you were better, you wouldn't have lost.
As for less one-sided games-good. The less of those, the better.
Teams should always be fighting tooth and nail against even odds.
Halo is a wargame, not a wargame. The adage about fair fights and war isn't true here.
Thats mostly true, however a team that is generally better than another team can end still end up losing a match if played against enough.
I personally believe that if a team is slightly better than another, the game should express them winning by a longshot, I think that is the most competitive way of doing things
i personally think they should remove respawning altogether
And you would be very incorrect. If that happens, then the team has failed at balancing.
And if you insist that is correct, and stomps become common, or worse, the norm, your game will not retain the player presence to continue having a competitive circuit.
what if you computer just spontaneously combusts when you die
that would add REAL stakes
The best-run games incentivize conflict and push-and-pull for a reason. Nobody likes to handle a foregone conclusion, more losing than winning. Feeling a sense of continued competitive momentum is more interesting to both observer and engager, so stomps should be disincentivized through mechanic manipulation of whatever means are least intrusive.
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And yes, of course, as the thumbs down above implies, losing teams who are stomped should be put to death, as is gladiator tradition.
that makes no sense at ALL
Just bought the halo Master chief collection. Has 6 games
gonna be my first time playing Halo
if one team is just barely better than another it should be a very close match, that expresses that both teams played well and knew what they were doing, if one team gets pubstomped then that expresses that they didn't know what they were doing at all
congrats, what game are you going to start with?
Well the thing comes with: Halo Reach, Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo 3, and Halo 3 ODST
so I'll probably start with Halo Reach
They're about done downloading
I missed one
idk but there Are 6 halo games
Most people, myself included, would say to start with CE and progress forward in release order
For a gameplay and graphical perspective, it can be a bit less jarring
Nevertheless, welcome. Hope you enjoy Halo :)
I'm probably gonna be on the lowest graphics for all the games
I second what Stckr said, start with Halo Combat Evolved
And basically go through the games in release order
I third that too
Lore order is best for a 2nd or 3rd playthrough imo
currently doing halo reach legendary run
i am aging 3 times a normal man
Ngl I don't think I could do legendary for my first playthrough š
its not worth it
do not listen to anyone who says stop playing after halo 3. play all the games and decide for yourslef if you enjoy them
^^^ true
I've had this game on my to get list for a longggg time
Nah, 4 is complete š© , don't even bother with it.
And for the love of all that is good, do not touch Spartan Ops.
I mean I have it so might as well try it out
i enjoyed 4 and i completed all of spartan ops
It's those kind of people who can never seem to let go. It's because of it I detest 3.
I just bought the master chief collection so I have 6 Halo games to play
The only thing wrong was the the fact that the graphics were new and experimental (kind of) in halo 4
halo 5 campaign is my least favourite i don't really enjoy it but its still a shame its not on mcc cuz its still part of the story. i had to buy an xbox one for cheap just to play it before i played infinite
I got my dad's old Xbox one whenever he got an upgrade.
I play MK11 and MK1 on it mainly
i think halo 4 should have explained in the game why chief's armour is different. i know the reason is cortana nanobots or whatever, but they should have at least had her make a passing comment about it so that it didnt just seem as though they were ignoring it.
that being said i didnt actually notice it was different when i first played it
To be fair it was on a old system and require 2 discs to get everything working. The One came out a year but company demanded one game per year. And everyone knows crunching to release something will not work.
i suppose so but i guess it wouldnt have matched with their new style. still someone saying something would have been nice
still sad they cancelled campaign dlc for infinite and rushed the initial campaign cuz while it was enjoyable I WANT MORE
Yeah
Something had to come out for the 20th anniversary for the franchise no questions asked.
Never played Halo in my life until my friend got me into it recently and I met the voice actors just completed halo 2 now off the halo 3
Question. Would you all be opposed to Halo MCC coming to PS5 and Switch 2?
Honestly, no
Same with Infinite
I feel like it'd be a decent player boost, and also just let more ppl experience Halo
John halo
Was there a silent/unannounced nerf/change to the xp awarded in Firefight classic? Seems like the mode no longer rewards the 1000 to 3000 xp for set completions.
https://x.com/HaloSupport/status/1900609192941203746
Technically not silent/unannounced, but it is kind of silly that people are expected to follow social media channels to be aware of changes like this.
Well that sucks, how much was it reduced to?
This explains why I didn't get as many points as anticipated yesterday, it's a shame because I used an XP boost too.
It was also posted here. #halo-support-news
I just realized that the halo 4 online servers are still up
Nobody plays on them anymore though
Halo 4's 360 servers are not still up
The 360 servers of H3, Reach and 4 were shut offline in January of 2022. Three years ago.
500 pass XP for 6+ rounds iirc
plus the usual 50 for a match completion
man the cortana mission in halo 3 is difficult
those flood thingies do suck
i wanna get on with halo combat evolved soon so i dont have to suffer through not understanding the story
you started with h3?
Yeah why would you start with Halo 3?
You should've started with CE first. It's logical, since it is the first Halo game.
reach was more of a spinoff game.
Play halo reach next!
Iām playing in order so 3 is next
is anyone down to play Halo MCC online i play on Xbox tho
If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:
#lfg-competitive ā For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social ā For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other ā For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-espaƱol ā Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categorĆa de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams ā To help you find a team or secure some scrims
Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.
are there any coatings that ādiffuseā or match the color of the MK7 chest and helmet attachments?
itās a weird like very faintly blueish metal and I canāt find anything that matches it
Grey Rabbit might work
idrk
yeah
and i regret it, i don't understand nothing that is being said
Frontier Outrider
It was a Eaglestrike coating but ofc is cross core now
Works perfectly with og attachment colors
The steel coatings are pretty close to it
What do you guys think Mendicant Bias sounds like?
Briāish robot
Hi, who will come with me to halo mcc ce on legendary difficulty
If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:
#lfg-competitive ā For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social ā For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other ā For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-espaƱol ā Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categorĆa de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams ā To help you find a team or secure some scrims
Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.
Morgan freeman
I'm stuck on "authenticating with services" are servers down?
Damn same here
I mean, that's why socials are there for š¤·š»āāļø
any solutions? banned from matchmaking after just 1 crash so
I was told that the Battle Rifle was in the events of CE and I have no idea where they would have been. I was also told the DMR was in the events of CE and have no idea what source backs that up
You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.
For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport
This isnāt a bug itās a feature
This is fake news. 343's Halo 4 servers are indeed offline which breaks things like progression and loadouts... But the MATCHMAKING servers are still up as it uses Xbox live matchmaking and it's still possible to play any of the default playlists in Halo 4 if enough people join the lobby... though in a degraded state.
Yeah, 3 days later.. . and 30 minutes after the post you replied to.
So you're saying that if I insert my copy of Halo 4 right now, I'm going to be able to play online, even though they shut down the servers back in 2022?
Because unless you have actual proof outside of your words, I'm not inclined to believe you
They are skipping the necessary requirement of the leader of the party at a minimum has to have a modded client š
Not sure we are allowed to discuss that 3rd party project here
Thank you Panda for providing the information they were omitting
And yeah, I don't know if those kinds of things can be discussed here
Ill be fair and say they might not realize, if you join a friend and can search its possible you're not aware they've done those modding steps - so benefit of the doubt!
Do you also have trouble loading anything related to xbox on other devices?
yes, that's what I'm saying. You clearly have no idea what youa re talking about since you just admintted to not having tested it yourself.
I've long documented the multiplayer achievements still unlockable in Halo 4 after sunset in 2022, those 17 achievements are still obtainable to this moment and published on TrueAchivements for anyone who cares to look. https://www.trueachievements.com/forum/viewthread.aspx?tid=1351231
Again, fake news. Halo 4 multiplayer works with the retail unmodded disk. If you have 4 friends with halo 4, you can matchmake in doubles today if you want.
Why would I test if I can play a game which I have no reason to play anymore due to having done everything I need to do in it, especially when there's another version of the same game with better framerates and additional customisation options in the MCC?
You are the only believing/spreading false information. Just correcting the record.
What misinformation am I spreading by saying I had no reason to go back to the 360 version of Halo 4?
Like, the only information there is information about my specific reason for not having used my old copy of Halo 4. That's not me spreading false information
Sorry dude can't help you.
Halo 3 and Reach Matchmaking are dead, only playable by the community using a modded Xbox to host lobbies.
Good thing I can play Halo 3 and Reach in MCC
But you still haven't answered my question, what false information am I spreading?
Halo 4 Matchmaking is still working, though degraded since all the Halo 4 custom loadouts are unavailiable as 343's servers needed to support them are down. matchmaking uses the 360 Xbox live servers, and this is still functional
Again, you keep saying you can play online yet you don't actually seem to have any proof
Here's your false info.
That's not me spreading false info, that's me responding to someone who provided information you omitted
I linked you proof. You can also test for youself if you want.. but as you said you don't want to as it will of course contradict your bias.
I tried looking it up through some halo 4 content creators and saw them playing H4 on 360 and said they had to use the mod to do it. So thats the only proof I have š
There's are mods to enable to missing features (such as carrer progression,, loadouts, armory). but matchmaking itself works without mods... That's all i've pointed out and the only topic brough up in the OP i initially responded too. .
I'm reinstalling my copy of Halo 4 now to see if your claims are true
Anyhow, the point is... The only reason one would care to run the old Halo 4 matchmaking is to unlock the 25 acheivments you can unlock they missed back in the day. Obviously several other achievements are discontinued due to needed services being missing (IE, you can't equip certain equipment needed for some of the DLC cheevos and such.)
Makes sense - so to actually play H4 matchmaking on the 360 as intended you'd have to use the mod, otherwise you can play the watered down version for some reason. I dont play H4 much so makes sense I'm uninformed š
H4 and H4:2 (H2A) were never enjoyable for me
Move the goal post all you want. The only claim is, you can queue into H4 lobbies today with an unmodded game and a match will start if enough player do.
Im not having a debate with you, its okay to talk to me like a human lmao
I admitted I was wrong. Live your life
ah low four
It does make me wonder though - why are we queuing OG H4 in 2025. I guess for the handful of achievements if you really really care, hm
Who knows... but the OP did for whatever reason and posted thier discovery here before a lot of people chimed in with false info and suggested the use of mods. #halo-discussion message I frankly find it interesting people still do queue up from time to time, despite how horrid the servers behaved when they were actually "supported". Those months before shutdown were awesome as everyone rushed to finish thier cheevos/goals in game... and there are still people from time to time gamers seeking to complete whatever 360 era Halo achievements they are missing which can still be done.
20 minutes...
Halo 4 ate Eon...
cuz halo 7 ate 9
Those Halo 4 servers are definitely not up anymore
When i get master chief collection, what order games should be played in?
Date of release?
Release order yes
Yes, at least for your first playthrough or two
then lore order is fun to do as well after
