halo-discussion

[smoky forge]

Gaming as an industry has changed a LOT since 2001, and even since 2007

[crystal iron]

exept for infinite it was a genius move

the banished was a good choise for the plot

[crystal iron]

saddly halo did not adapt

i think if they tried to make a more violant halo game with a true feeling of advenrure it would work really well

After using the MK4 I really start seeing how cheap the mmk7 looks,

I hope the next Halo armors takes direct inspiration from the mk4

[haughty lagoon]

Did the new networking code ever get extended to the rest of Halo Infinite?

[remote scarab]

I know i'm going to be eaten by tigers for this statement, but after trying H2A, I think it's actually quite good

the multiplayer I mean

everyone loves the h2a campaign, but honestly the multiplayer isn't that bad too besides it looking a bit too much like H4, because it was built off of H4

i really love the way the BR feels especially

i remember not really initially liking it but after really playing a fair bit of it, it feels really tight and snappy, and it's pretty much all the good aspects of H4 without all of the bad parts of H4 lol

[river minnow]

just happened to come across this comment, if you bookmark modes/maps through links. theyll be bookmarked on your xbox almost instantly. no need to search for them

[left snow]

Not yet. They said they had a few bugs to iron out - but hopefully soon.

[jovial needle]

hopefully, tired of feeling like im playing a 2007 online game

[remote scarab]

i thought people liked halo 3? 😨

[full warren]

lol the bot going 1/8 was better than my team mate whos 0/13 and bot had longer carry time of the ball than him......

[remote scarab]

would recommend squadding with these people and teaching them the basics if you're not with any friends at the time, most of the time they're new and it's better to show them patience and kindness, if people just dunk on them then they'll quit, and then you'll never have any newer people getting into the game

everyone was new at some point, it's frustrating to play with all newbies but try to make something positive out of it

[full warren]

Not really my problem, I didn't flame them i just ignore them like they are bots lol

No one taught me when I was a noob, and I still got better by myself, if people want to learn they will learn themselves

[remote scarab]

well it's their problem, that's my point, you taking like 20 mins to run a few matches with them will help them become exponentially better in a short frame of time

just saying, if you want better teammates then why not just cultivate them to your playstyle and maybe make a few regulars to queue with in the meantime

[celest heron]

lol, this is assuming they accept an invite, have a mic or even want to be helped.

[full warren]

Out of everyone who talked to me its mostly calling me a cheat and hacker

[celest heron]

the problem is those two shouldn't have even been in the same game, but the sbmm system likes to put opposite ends of the skill levels together.

[full warren]

also way too many duos trios and 4 man

no offense but you can see when they work well as a team, because you can tell one is hiding with the ball and rest of their team across the map protecting all his corners, like yeah right 4 randoms can do that

SBMM can't take that into account and even if it does after they go on a 20 game winnning streak too late they stop playing and go back to their normal solo for a few games and rinse repeat I seen two guys who does this constaly and they ahve a win rate of 66%

both are just high diamond low onyx so not even that good. but tehy can game the system to like 66% win rate over thousands of games

oh look a 3 man pre made vs 4 random lol

[jovial needle]

The one thing I can def say I hated was the netcode lol

[left snow]

Each to their own.

But having played lots of games where I've been carried by better players - it makes a huge difference if the alpha player helps and supports vs going lone wolf.

Your issues with the MM are valid. But they aren't going to change. So maybe it's time for you to work with what you've got?

[full warren]

I mean I don't play halo to uplift other peoples skills, I do not see halo as a "social" game I only play for my personal enjoyment and only play by myself. I don't go lone wolf in game I do use the bots as meat shields but sometimes that is not even possible since they die isntantly

[remote scarab]

i mean, i'm not sure why you complain about teammates then lol. If the game isn't a social game, and you aren't interested in helping your team that isn't as skilled as you, then you lose. Idk what to tell you dude, it's a team game. I get not wanting to socialize with every random you meet, but I feel it's counter-productive to say that bots are better than the teammates you get, whilst you refuse to even give basic communication and help to them and basically treat them like NPCs lol

[remote scarab]

Most of the time all of these things are yes though, from personal experience, newer people mostly really appreciate even just a match or a message, and it goes a long way to actually keeping the community healthy beyond complaining in a discord server. If you're that good solo, by all means, solo carry then??

[remote scarab]

Exactly what I'm saying, thank you for putting it so well, SBMM isn't going to magically put 3 pro players on your team, and lower skilled players make up the majority of the playerbase. I really do not like this attitude of treating new/lower skilled players as NPCs when you could literally do the barest of bare minimums to make their experience better, whilst also giving yourself better teammates. People say 4-stacks are unfair, so just get a 4-stack yourself?? Y'know, with the new players you're now teaching the game to..??

[celest heron]

not sure why you keep saying they're new players. there are plenty of bad players that have been playing for awhile. carry harder and play with a 4 stack of newbs to counter another party is also not good advice, comes off as a bit dismissive and it doesn't address the root cause of the issue which is what creates these problems that he complains about.

but anyway, this is will just be the same song and dance until 343 changes things.

[rocky cipher]

get the feeling 343 would've changed it by now if they wanted to

its been two years, evidently they're perfectly content with their sbmm system

[celest heron]

maybe, but they've also been known to take their time with changes in the past and something as important as that would likely take awhile.

[left snow]

It's a problem that has been around and growing for the best part of 18 to 24 months.

And I think we're assuming the root cause of the issue is low population. Too few spread across too many playlists. Maybe with 343 over-prioritising low wait times? And the problem definitely got worse once Fire Fight came on board.

So it's not going away in a hurry.

[left snow]

We can take a step back from SBMM as the problem here.

The gap between the best and worst players has drifted out too wide. And that's more of a population / match-maker issue.

[left snow]

I suspect part of the "inertia" is that a Match Composer is coming - and that will help address some of the issues at hand.

[sweet dawn]

Anyone seen the new episode of the halo show?

[jovial needle]

uh ya

SBMM is def the problem CMR is so bad in this game idk how anyone can argue its not, the game doesnt find players equal to your skill it finds players that add up to the CMR of the team (Obv BTB is diff its very loose) so you end up with you being good and maybe a half decent second guy and 2 straight NPCs thats pretty much my match ups all the time

and then you have to fight a 4 man that might not be as good as you 1 on 1 but theyre coordinating and abusing your NPC team mates

[left snow]

There are lots of moving parts here.

I don't think SBMM is a problem per se. It's necessary. But I do agree what the MM does with the lobbies at the moment is a problem. But given that part of the problem is the thin population and that the natural solution is longer wait times - it's not an easy problem to fix.

The CSR has faults. Sure. But I'm not sure its "so bad". Like, what is that troubles you specifically?

I know lots of people don't like and/or understand how CSR is apportioned at the end of each game - and they get frustrated that other's appear to get more or lose less. But that's a different issue. I personally don't like the scale - it's too large - but that's neither here nor there.

As for the MM. Ranked does bring lobbies together based on CSR. Which I think is stupid. But at least the teams are divided based on MMR (yay). So the matches should be even. It will tend to fall apart when someone's CSR is a long way from their MMR (eg. post placement) - especially when squads are involved (less options for the MM in dividing the teams).

And finally, there is a weighting for squads. So the solo players should make up for it with skill. Looking back it looks I have won five out of my last 8 ranked games where it was solo teams vs 4 stacks. I do agree though that objective games run the risk of falling apart if your team doesn't "gel".

[left snow]

I've seen the first three. Enjoyed them much more than Season 1.

[sweet dawn]

Same

But who is that guy at the ending supposed to be? Is he a book character?

[jovial needle]

I mean SBMM is def Needed for sure but I do wish it wasnt so strict in casuals I mean fighting kids the same exact skill or bots all the time doesnt make you a better player

and it gets hella boring and when ur better than the ppl you normally play with you basically just drag them through the mud while they get dunked on by the kids "Equal" to your skill level

[left snow]

I think it's well described that you improve faster in any skill by competing against the same level or level just above you. So that's kind of where you want to be placed. And the reality is that the vast majority of players are well and truly on the plateau part of their skill curve. You can wax and wane a bit - but any improvement is going to take a lot of time and conscious effort.

But yes, the make up the lobbies is not pleasant. But "loosening" the SBMM isn't going to help. You will still get the same spread of skill within teams - but you'd now be risking one team being much better than the other. Like you and your mates - except there is nobody on the other team who can keep you busy.

Hopefully the Match Composer helps funnel players / squads into the same play lists. Effectively increasing the population that the MM has to work with.

And bots. We need to use bots to flesh out below average lobbies. While they find their feet.

[smoky stone]

what are yall talking about? skill based matchmaking?

[jovial needle]

ya

Id say I like the loose SBMM of BTBs but honestly im like top of the leaderboards all the time so I probably shouldnt comment much on it

[left snow]

More the match maker - and how it creates lobbies with very good players and very bad players together. So we have a case of carry or be carried.

[jovial needle]

I personally can not stand being the Balancer in games

[smoky stone]

yeah, that's bad. I actually saw something the other day on twitter about it, it was a PDF from Microsoft about it. Let me see if I can dig it back up. It was very interesting to read.

[left snow]

I'd imagine it would get quite boring after a while.

[jovial needle]

You are always the one who has to carry and your team is so bad and if you make any mistakes you lose or you just lose anyways playing your best cause your team could barely be scraping by

[jovial needle]

Id love to read that

[left snow]

It's still a team game. Everyone has to play their part. So don't take the responsibility as all yours.

You can go positive and still let the team down.

And someone else can "carry" by going less negative than they should have!

[smoky stone]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2018/03/trueskill2.pdf

found it. I forgot I bookmarked it.

[jovial needle]

Ya but playing good and popping off just to lose can suck sometimes

[left snow]

I can only dream 🙂

[jovial needle]

Idk sometimes I wish I was terrible at the game feel like it would be more fun

atleast the bad kids are all equal skill id imagine

[smoky stone]

there's a part in the writeup that actually says something about matching weaker players against stronger ones. Now, I think you should be matching weaker against stronger, but within context. The system should be challenging you to play with players within your skill level and a little higher, but not extremely higher and not extremely low.

[jovial needle]

so those games are probably pretty balanced lol

[left snow]

It's a solid read. I wish more people would look at it.

There is also a couple of articles by MoserWare on the maths behind the system. Part one is reasonably straight forward and gives you an appreciation of why they use probability curves etc. Part two is a bit out of my league 😦

[jovial needle]

Well 343 sure does love to overcomplicated the hell out of everything

[smoky stone]

I miss the old Halo 2 rankings system

[jovial needle]

ya but it doesnt do that you just get really good kids and really bad kids on the same team as long as it totals out to the same as the enemies team total skill

[smoky stone]

I felt like it gave you more of a feeling of progression.

[left snow]

There was a GDC talk where they mentioned that if your MM is "too" good - you just end up with 50:50 games vs your own level and you can rank lock people.

So the system actually looks to introduce a bit of give. Games that aren't so 50:50. Which gives you a chance to prove to the system if you need to rank up (or down).

[smoky stone]

super simple, level 1-50, and then there was the cool icons, moon, halo ring, eclipse, etc.

[left snow]

TrueSkill is Microsoft.

[jovial needle]

well so is 343 in a way

[jovial needle]

def thought 50s was way cooler

[smoky stone]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F68pud6lg8p241.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D13b9727c3eecd68d57fd502c717bcfb36e9219c4

it was level 44 and up when the icons started

[left snow]

It was OK. Based on the original TrueSkill.

TrueSkill2 is much faster and more accurate.

I do like the idea of a small scale though. We probably don't need to wind it all the way back to 1-50. But the current system of 1-1800+ just doesn't have precision. We are losing our mind over a few point here or there.

[smoky stone]

I remember when I got level 30 and I was like, holy wow.

[left snow]

I'd like 1-100.

Maybe you could do 1-117.

And levels 101-117 could be "champions". With symbols like Halo 2.

[jovial needle]

sure thatd be fine too

Not that id go for it I cant stand ranked in Infinite esp when they removed the BR

[left snow]

I don't think we could ever go back to 1-50. That was broken forever by Halo 3.

[jovial needle]

and dont even get me started on these dub maps

[left snow]

I like the Bandit. I'm not very good with it. But I like it - and what it does for movement around the map.

[smoky stone]

there's too much detail in the ranking system as it is now. I mean, I just now got to plat yesterday, and now I'm trying to get from plat 1 to 2, and it's frankly kinda boring to be honest. From a visual standpoint, it's nausating that I have to go through what...six tiers of levels within a single rank? If they went back to a pure numerical system, I think it would be a lot more fun.

[jovial needle]

Its alright but BR is so much better

[smoky stone]

the ranked arena bandit is much better than the default one

[jovial needle]

isnt it the same with a scope

[smoky stone]

and that's another weird thing to me, why have two different versions of it?

[jovial needle]

less bloom or something cause god forbid pros learn how to have any form of Trigger Discipline

idk there wasnt much reason for two we could of just had the one with the red dot

but gotta show those pros they care!

[smoky stone]

The recoil on the default one is a bit much, and there's definitely more bloom. The ranked version is tighter and requires more precision of aiming rather than controlling recoil.

[jovial needle]

I def prefer Reach DMR

over both

[smoky stone]

ew lol. Reach bloom was vomit.

[left snow]

There are cool bits about the Divisions - just that they are so poorly promoted by 343.

Like each division is a standard deviation from the mean - so you can estimate the proportion of the population that should be in each division!

And it's calibrated so that you have a 50:50 chance vs your division, 75:25 vs the division below you, and 25:75 the division above you.

[jovial needle]

Ya but in close range you could spam it and drop someone, In long range you literally just needed to shoot a lil bit slower

it gave you options thats why I liked it

[left snow]

Yep, no point. They should drop the old one.

[jovial needle]

should drop the gun entirely and give me back my BR in ranked

or atleast a sidekick secondary would be nice id use it over the bandit probably every game

[left snow]

I didn't mind bloom.

It was more a way of controlling how weapons worked at mid-long ranges. Bullet spread that was a) predictable, and b) somewhat under your control.

People got hung up on losing to a mid-range spammer every now and then.

[smoky stone]

I found it ironic that 343 wrote a whole update about how Halo needs a utility weapon, and the revised bandit was their answer. I get its design and its place, but I think it could be better by having a faster rate of fire. I'm coming from the bias of Halo CE where I loved the pistol as a utility weapon that could protect you from all ranges and your AR was your backup.

I think the infinite pistol is a great gun with a great rate of fire, but I think the damage model is wrong, I wish it were more lethal and killed quicker.

there's all kinds of things you can tinker with in Infinite to find that sweet spot.

But I think many weapons, specifically in ranked, just get untouched because they're not worth picking up really.

do people just not know how to play strongholds? lol

at 130AM CST, ranked arena population drastically drops off, crazy.

match wait time shows almost 2 mins.

[left snow]

I've got 4.59 on mine. And I've been waiting much longer than that 😦

Aussie.

[last dust]

assault on the control room was so hard in single player ;_;

i did it but i got so angry

especially at that last part with the 2 banshees flying around and i had to scale that pyramid

but now im on 343 guilty spark, my favorite level in the whole series

[fleet prairie]

know that i am var gatanai

[serene badger]

Thanks for the reply, but my Xbox always errors when I attempt to save bookmarks. I have already been through support and they just tell me that they’re aware of the issue and working on it.

[atomic portal]

is it possible to make ur mk 4 core in infinite look like jerome

[finite river]

close

only really missing the shoulder piece

[civic sundial]

So long as you have this week's weekly coating, you can get really close

There's definitely some shoulders that can mimic Jerome's but it'll never be 1 to 1

[thorn sierra]

it is possible to make a custom match where its centered on a single weapon?

[celest heron]

you can go into training mode and make it just one weapon

[ruby knoll]

Like no pickups, just one weapon?

Yeah

Disable pickups, set loadout to that one weapon, with secondary set to none

[humble widget]

if I remember correctly, the sidekick has the fastest ttk in the sandbox outside of power weapons when it's in optimal range.

consistency is what might change perspectives on this, as well as connection stability. I've domed someone in quick succession with 7 shots and other times it took up to a full mag to just knock someone's shields off

[humble widget]

In a sense yes, the ultimate this week is his colour scheme. I think there should be a free place for emblems for this purpose since his is on his shoulder.

[atomic portal]

i never managed to get ultimate rewards :(

[civic sundial]

This one isn't too hard to get

[velvet dirge]

Ultimates aren't hard to get generally since 343 changed them to match firefight

[finite river]

you cant do most ultimates in firefight though

[vernal wind]

There hasn't been one weekly ultimate you can do in firefight so far this season. This week's ultimate even expressly says you have to do it in PvP. What're you talking about?

[velvet dirge]

oh you mean the ultimates missions themselves? I was talking about the small missions leading up to it

[vernal wind]

Oh those

[finite river]

i did the tattoo scroll thingy in pvp that required 3 backsmacks on spartans when playin firefight

[velvet dirge]

you can ask that without the hostile part in the end

[vernal wind]

My bad, I read you wrong

[velvet dirge]

It's ok, I appreciate the recognize bud

[humble widget]

stole the enemies tank in ctf and proceeded to get a boogeyman

they didn't get a new one to spawn for ages lmao, and our tanks kept coming back

[dire kraken]

Day one asking that 343 make the weekly rewards as permanent challenges so anyone can unlock the cosmetics whenever they want

[finite river]

you dont need to ping the devs

but yes i agree about weeklies being permanent

[civic sundial]

They're already working on a system that allows you to get previous weekly rewards

[ruby lake]

same

[ember belfry]

where can I post a funny halo video

[sturdy iris]

would any steam deck mcc players care to drop me their control schemes? these dead zones are gonna break me mental

[thorn sierra]

It is sad that in halo infinite you can't become a elite

[sturdy iris]

it is sad that elites have taken a back seat to brutes in the 343 era

[jade iron]

i want a reason to call people split lips again

[jade iron]

only in infinite

[sturdy iris]

basically i dont care about orcs there are many lores with orcs not so many with alien samurai

[sturdy iris]

inf and halo wars 2
h5 and h4 had stinky promethean arcs of which i care not to remember

and 0 floods : (

[thorn sierra]

I was checking my old pc and i have halo ce and halo 2 randomly pirated in a folder (i checked and i have beat the campaign and im halfway on 2)

[sturdy iris]

finish the fight

[crystal iron]

Real

[clear mulch]

That's illegal

[thorn sierra]

well i was broke at that time and anyway, i ended up buying the MCC months later

[clear mulch]

That's a bad game

[lime robin]

Today I played with the forklift and it's the worst vehicle ever 😤

You can lift the fork up with the fire button of the mouse, but there's no designated button to get the fork back down, it only works properly with a controller

Therefore it is LITERALLY A PAY TO WIN VEHICLE 😤 💸 🔥/s

[thorn sierra]

H2: A's soundtrack is soooo cool

[rocky cipher]

what really needs to happen is emblems on the shoulders

emblems in general just need a complete overhaul, they're so bad

[woven creek]

Emblems remind me of those halo wars 2 ultimate edition 'skin packs'

They should just port the whole MCC emblem system into infinite and make it its own catagory thing in customisation

[woven creek]

What the hell are you on about, the forklift is one of the best vehicles you can get your hands on, sure it may be a bit slow but its surely tougher and deadlier than a warthog or phantom

[jovial needle]

bro you can actually use the lift its sick

Why cant they give it to us in Forge tho so lame

[thorn sierra]

i was just playing halo 3 multiplayer and i got shot by a rocket launcher and when my elite died, dude just got in the ground like "yeah ima just stay here looking into nothingness if y'all dont mind"

[fading pike]

tbh man

i wish they’d just make the bandit in halo infinite a full on reach dmr

not necessarily stat wise but appearance wise

i guess it already kind of is

[sturdy iris]

thats comando

[fading pike]

?

[sturdy iris]

replace the holo with a tube and its dmr

[fading pike]

yeah that’s the bandit

[sturdy iris]

i meant the commando; but bandit is more dmr-like with another look

[fading pike]

?

i’m braindead rn sorry

[fringe surge]

The Bandi EVO is the Reach DMR. The only difference is that it no longer has bloom and it's actually really nice to use

Too bad Sidekick in this game be like "lol" at everything that isn't cross mapping them

[frosty condor]

Sidekick is my true sidekick

[open umbra]

I kept getting frame drops/lags while playing BTB on Insolence with my xbox one.

[finite river]

as expected with xbox ones

[open umbra]

Yeah... I may need to switch to PC if I want to play PvP.

[final cedar]

I miss the magnum.

But the sidekick.

The sidekick is a friend.

[jade iron]

No it's a sidekick. Nerds.....

[inland minnow]

maybe the real friends were the sidekicks we picked up along the way

[tame vault]

I have recently started to play some Halo 2 Legendary with the "That's Just Wrong" and "Angry" skull and the first 5 missions aren't that hard. The main annoyance is just that a lot of mission knowledge is required in order to avoid stupid moves like getting caught by surprise by Sniper Jackals.

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/jackal-sniper-gif-22878703

[open umbra]

It would be nightmare if stalker rifle jackles in infinite's campaign were replaced with beam rifles.

[last dust]

have fun with the library

wait thats halo 2 youre playing nvm

im still tryna wake up

[open umbra]

Gravemind would be much harder in the prison section.

[tame vault]

The Library in Halo CE is one of the easiest missions, I have also improved my strategy for the 90 second room to be That's Just ... Wrong compliant by hidding inside of the door.

[humble widget]

Honestly some of those jackal snipers are cheeky. They'll dome you from a good distance away and if you're on foot you're donezo

[tame vault]

Jackal sniper is about knowing locations and spawning conditions to not be caught off guard.

[serene badger]

Yup. And always have your thrusters ready.

[tame vault]

Doesn't help in either Halo 2 or Halo 3 since thursters doesn't exist in any of these games.

[olive brook]

what

[tame vault]

I can say that Halo 4 is quite good in general with the exception of few places where you get stuck in a room and the door behind you gets locked. It's most commonly seen and most annoying in the mission Forerunner

[stray geyser]

I just complete that 💀

and I wonder if we will ever get a master Chief face reveal, I am such a huge halo fan

[tame vault]

We got one in Halo 4

[stray geyser]

Really? I just complete halo 4 just now

Well, I didn’t skip any cutscenes

[signal ivy]

have to do it on legendary

[tame vault]

It's the Legendary ending

[stray geyser]

OOF.

Welp, wish me luck on it then lol

[tame vault]

Halo CE had Jonsson and an Elite hugging, Halo 3 had a mysterious forerunner plannet, Halo 4 had Master Chief's face and Halo 5 had a ring

[stray geyser]

👍

[lyric palm]

Anyone know if there is a discord for Halo Arma or Stellaris? I heard their was a Sins of the Prophets too if anyone knows that?

[sudden sonnet]

not sure.

ill have a look tho!

[lyric palm]

I appreciate it! I feel their has to be a Halo Arma one, but Stellaris probably not

[uneven bison]

I’m sure there is one

I wouldn’t know how to find it though

[lyric palm]

I saw on reddit their was a Sins of the Prophets discord but links on reddit are all expired

[sudden sonnet]

yea i hate that.

[lyric palm]

Same, the guy had a list of discords, arma and sins but since no longer active I was out of luck

[vast nova]

did Halo 2 Have Legendary ending

[edgy osprey]

100 percent agree with you I said it a couple times here already the part where you go down to rescue the marines from the prison its completely based on luck either one of two things happened if you are lucky the brute doesn't notice if you are unlucky before you even reach the bottom of the gravity lift the brute somehow already know you are coming down before reaching down and turns around to kill you

[worn iron]

Got Arcadian Bog my first match today after a sick extermination in Husky Raid

[bronze lake]

Did the new MCC update mess with input queueing in H2?

I can’t get double shots to work even though my timing (should) be fine

[glacial tartan]

Havent heard any mention of it. Went into a custom game and its working fine.

[bronze lake]

I think my timing’s messed up then

[sturdy iris]

na

[crystal iron]

when is new halo game coming out

i dont think infintie will be fixed

[sturdy iris]

not for a while unless we get a minor entry

2 year mayb

wdym fixed?

[crystal iron]

idk broke

feels bad laggy

[sturdy iris]

ya the servers are pretty corrective

so getting a bad region or game server makes it feel pretty awful

[crystal iron]

cant blame microsft, they are a fairly new company when it comes to servers and making games

[worn iron]

S-tier troll

[last dust]

wasn't expecting a bridge to terabithia fan here

good book, 85 TV movie was decent. 2007 film is good too but they REALLY disney-fied Leslie and that works to the films detriment

I have no idea why they thought making leslie a manic pixie dream girl was a good idea. she was just a normal kid in the book and the TV movie.

[worn iron]

unsure what this has to do with Halo

[thorn sierra]

The flamethrower from halo CE multiplayer looked so badass

[quasi nexus]

I like halo infinity.

It reminds me of halo 6

[fading pike]

once you figureout the bandit it's pretty damn good

[young spear]

new show is kinda lit

[sturdy hearth]

Hwy, does anyone play Halo: The Master Chief Collection?

[sturdy hearth]

If so, DM me if you want to play with me.

[frosty condor]

We got a whole channel dedicated for it! #halo-the-series-chat for general chat about the show and #halo-the-series-spoiler-chat to discuss thoughts going forward!

[frosty condor]

Try the LFG channels 🙂

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[lime robin]

Is the flag unable to back smack?

[crystal iron]

I just found out ling ling is still in halo 2 anniversary and reach and uninstalled the entire game

[frosty condor]

[worn iron]

Unsure, but I would assume it should. It's not even like the angle was questionable, you hit dead center on their back lol

[lime robin]

@crystal iron y u cheat bro

[sharp summit]

Are we able to lower weapons in infinite yet

screenshot purposes

[signal ivy]

I believe so

[sharp summit]

Does it involve some forge or funky magic to do it

[signal ivy]

I think so yeah

[civic sundial]

Odd reason to uninstall

[crystal iron]

guten morgen, how are yalls doing?

[hardy belfry]

Good, what about you?

[finite river]

yes has to be done with forge node graph

its not that difficult to set up either

[crystal iron]

the same, i suppose

[crystal iron]

I guess the game thinks you hit me on the side instead of the back? Idk

[fading pike]

https://twitter.com/kevindschmitt/status/1759296817689395286?s=46&t=SfakTLNOfwGqgKa9jdZI1A

this is a terrible day 😞

[hardy belfry]

damn

[coarse dagger]

An important follow up tweet that I imagine will be overlooked
https://twitter.com/kevindschmitt/status/1759373738594947465?t=3R1g8ShcBIB7eZfNxxscSQ&s=19

Kevin Schmitt (@kevindschmitt) on X

Been in gamedev for almost 30 years. Probably pitched well over a hundred games. There are thousands of reasons they don’t get made. It’s rarely corpo greed or some other nefarious reason. I find it’s a lot about timing.

Twitter · Feb 19, 2024, 12:26 AM

[last dust]

true that it can be multiple different reasons, but the off time it IS corpo greed or blatant stupidity, it hurts

timesplitters 4 was cancelled cause they didnt have a mascot to put on the cover

and that was the FIRST time it got cancelled. the devs came back. announced a new timesplitters. then recently they shut down.

[coarse dagger]

Unless you have the information to back that up, I don't think you can say this is true

We have no idea why these projects weren't carried forward, it's less likely to be greed going by Kevin's clarification

[hardy belfry]

Yeah, there might be multiple reasons why something isn’t made, but, man, Microsoft have so many studios and it sucks that we never got halo spin-offs from some of them.

[shadow lance]

Guardians is dead😭

[rich swan]

do you know which mode I should play to get a killing spree medal in PVP for my weekly?

[fading pike]

i just queued into quick play and got ir

but you could do it in husky raid too

[ashen atlas]

I do all my weekly ultimates in husky raid

Seems to be the best option pretty much all the time

[fading pike]

all of the medals are pretty easy in husky raid except for like

splatter

[sharp crescent]

I’m playing husky raid rn if you wanna join

[rich swan]

thanks for asking but i am preparing to sleep now so won't be joining today.

[sharp crescent]

It’s 9:50 in the morning

[last dust]

timezones, dude

[sharp crescent]

Oh

[last dust]

its either a timezone thing or person worked all night and needs sleep

[frosty condor]

They have the Asia role, so it’s definitely time zone

Like me

I should be in bed…. Goodnight chat!

[sharp crescent]

Why don’t you play

[last dust]

goodnight:)

[last dust]

i dont play infinite. the only multiplayers i play are 1,2, and 3.

i like the simplicity of the movement coupled with the surprising complexity of the weapon and vehicle sandbox

[rich swan]

Yea. its 12am here.

[last dust]

well you sleep well:)

[outer sand]

Not sure if its quite what you're looking for, but holding the swap weapon button drops your gun

[quasi nexus]

how are spartan ops achievements STILL broken??

[twin crag]

because they haven't been fixed

[coarse dagger]

File a support ticket if you are still having issues with achievements

[sullen kiln]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[glacial tartan]

I do have a suggestion for broken achievements in MCC - I had I think 6-7 that I couldnt get to unlock no matter what I did.

Apparently having a clean environment matters a lot. Do the same achievement on Xbox Cloud Gaming and they unlock right away, every time.

[sharp summit]

There is a way to hold your gun lower it’s good for photos

It’s like the way you hold a gun while running but you don’t need to run

Like a stance

[slow flint]

So I read halo new blood and when it talked about the rookies death it said how the next time they saw him he was all bloodied up but never told how he got so injured If he wasn't injured he could have survived (would have) but I would like to know if there was anything I missed?

[quasi nexus]

i will try this. it's happening on both pc and xbox to me. shows i did the first 3 episodes in 2015 and only the first set achievement popped

[glacial tartan]

Good luck! Finally got 700/700 myself recently and some of them are just plain stuck/broken. Youll get it!

[quasi nexus]

ty. i'm way behind that but hopefully i can get the ones i should have unlocked to pop soon. ty for the suggestions folks

[fallen vale]

Heey, how's everyone doing?

[civic sundial]

He was captured and shot in the head point blank, kinda hard to walk something like that off

[dim jewel]

I mean Dustin Echoes could 😉

Guy survived a damn Halo ring blowing up, he can survive anything

[thorny gazelle]

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask friends but does halo infinite on pc allow any type of split screen or offline two player firefight?

[finite river]

splitscreen yes

[thorny gazelle]

It’s so confusing there doesn’t seem to be a way at all?

[lusty wraith]

Not on PC

[finite river]

post never mentioned pc

[inland minnow]

it does

[lusty wraith]

Read again

[inland minnow]

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask friends but does halo infinite on pc allow any type of split screen or offline two player firefight?

[finite river]

🤷🏻

[crystal iron]

What's the weekly

[worn iron]

Should be Vannak's helmet iirc

[signal ivy]

it's the Jerome coating

[velvet dirge]

It's the Jecoat

[worn iron]

Oh I thought he meant next mb, yeah Jerome coating (Arcadian Bog)

[signal ivy]

all good, yeah last helmet starts tomorrow

[timid rune]

Do you guys think Noble 6 survived Reach?

[coarse dagger]

Canonically, he did not

[crystal iron]

Personally, I was never sure on that topic.

I am willing to think that he didn't make it though.

[torn pasture]

you saw him get a energy sword through the chest no?

[crystal iron]

That was someone else from his crew.

[torn pasture]

how am I learning this now

[crystal iron]

It's cool man, we are all learning things we didn't know. For example, I recently found out that the Flood are descended from the Precursors.

[timid rune]

We didn't, I think he just didn't take his helmet and went into a cave

Also I finally found out that it wasn't actually the covenant the Master Chief was fighting in halo 4

[crystal iron]

I saw him fighting the covenant in Halo 4, but I think that the Prometheans were the main faction he fought against in the game.

[humble berry]

not only was he stabbed and mangled by a whole army, the planet he was on was also glassed and Noble 6 almost always stayed on the surface, it was basically impossible for him to survive

[timid rune]

What if he got on a Covenant ship and went to another planet?

[crystal iron]

Was his status disclosed in halo wikipedia or something? If its unknown, 343 probably have plans for him.

[grave ether]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-hes-dead-jim-gif-11747425

[humble berry]

not his style

[crystal iron]

You sure?

[worn iron]

he ded

[humble berry]

His final mission in the game is him facing an entire army, when the smarter decision would've been to hide and wait out the glassing, I don't think he'd do it

[crystal iron]

Fair point

I still have no idea what to think on his status. Whether he is alive or dead.

Both sides have fair points.

[grave ether]

If he was just cut in half and fell down a reactor shaft, he might've had a chance. But he dead da dead de ded

[worn iron]

I understood that reference

[civic sundial]

Noble Six is so dead they had to classify him as super dead because of how dead he is

[crystal iron]

So what do you think happened to dare after odst? we do see buck in halo 5, dare is only once mentioned and never seen.

[civic sundial]

She's married to Buck

[crystal iron]

Oh fr??

[civic sundial]

Which happens after Halo 5

[crystal iron]

oh awesome

[coral egret]

Alpha nine also reunites as spartans apart from Rookie

Cos he dead, dead too

[crystal iron]

Poor rookie. 😔

[coral egret]

There all dripped out in odst spartan armor too which is cool

[grave ether]

Pillar of Glass Autumn

[crystal iron]

"You ever fall for a woman, make sure she's got balls."

Famous buck quote

[coral egret]

"You know the music, time to dance"

[fallen vale]

Heey, how's everyone doing?

[crystal iron]

Ah, fine so far, you?

[coarse dagger]

Confirmed by both Bungie and 343. Bungie did an interview about 6 months after Reach released, from memory (GameRant? Something like that). Think the Encyclopedia has him listed as dead, along with multiple employees stating it over the years

[crystal iron]

Daaamn.. that's a bummer. Welp, fly high, 6! 🕊️

I won't lie, I really need to play infinite again.

Also, is it really true that there's another halo game in the works?

[lusty wraith]

Games have gotten so bad for my random teammates that my latest snipers match everyone quit and I won the game with 3 bots 💀

32 and 11 was my kd

[quasi nexus]

anyone know what the mcc frame rate is on series S?

[crystal iron]

4k resolution at 120 FPS, as far as what I know.

could be true but idk.

[frosty condor]

I don’t think the Series S pumps out those fps numbers, but 4K sure

I know the Series X can do 120fps

[crystal iron]

Right, the article i found said that was the fps for both X and S but i could ne wrong.

[frosty condor]

If the S can do 120fps, then I am shooketh

[dim jewel]

Noble 6 may be dead but Dustin Echoes and Chips Dubbo can never die

[marble wolf]

which battle pass should I get in Halo Infinite?

[frosty condor]

Buy season 2 so you can get the others free, then once you’re done get season 1

[misty vale]

Season 2, then 5, 3, 4, 1

[frosty condor]

Season 1 doesn’t reward credits

But the others do

[misty vale]

Rock solid use of $10

[marble wolf]

Thanks for the advice. It’s nice that the battle passes don’t expire like they do in Fortnite and that they reward credits

Expiring battle passes are so dumb. I got a life outside of video games, I don’t like feeling pressured into grinding a battle pass that’s gonna expire and if I don’t I lose out on some cool items

[barren ferry]

The campaign is way too easy if you unlock the UNSC wasp

[main moss]

Are forge maps not saved on the cloud? I just reinstalled MCC and my forge map is gone :(

[sturdy iris]

use edge for free halo stuf xd

[ashen atlas]

Depends if you play legendary. Still makes it easier, as it should since it takes quite a few points to unlock it, but a couple of banshees on legendary can melt it quick

And they can come from anywhere at anytime

[barren ferry]

I killed all the HVT from camping in the air

[analog salmon]

its only 1080p

[jagged crescent]

i thought series s is only 60fps?

[analog salmon]

In MCC:
Series X: 4K 60 or 4k 120
Series S: 1080p 60 or 1080 120
One X: 4k 60
One S / One: 1080 60

with dynamic resolution but honestly i dont even think the dynamic resolution works in most games

and those are framerate targets. in reality outside of playing a 60fps on Series X or S, you're gonna see drops

Halo 2A campaign is pretty much unplayable on the Xbox One consoles

[jagged crescent]

oh dam

wait so what fps can series s get on infinite?

[analog salmon]

120 at a dynamic 1080p

[celest heron]

don't you also need the equipment to support 4k

[jagged crescent]

wow i did not know the newer xboxes are that good

[celest heron]

? I played on it for years with not much issues.

[analog salmon]

if you plug a Series X into a 1080p TV it still internally renders MCC at 4k

its possible to play some MCC titles (Halo 2A campaign, Halo 3, Halo 2 ODST) at 1440p or 1080p on a Series X with the FSR toggle though

[true palm]

I’m blind

[analog salmon]

i booted metropolis up on my One S and One X and neither seemed playable to me

One X can justt about handle it if you set it to 1080p via FSR

I have some hope they have Saber working on fixing it (its Saber's engine that needs the DRS)

letting you use the FSR toggle on console is a good enough fix for Series X though, you can play in 120fps mode @ 1440p provided you have VRR to smooth out the drops

[celest heron]

hmm, idk cause I've played that map for years due to it being one of my challenge completion maps and it works fine for me.

[analog salmon]

we might just have different opinions on what is playable lol

dont get me wrong I dont need a locked 60fps to play a game, I enjoyed MCC multiplayer for years on One S with the drops

but I couldn't tolerate 2A campaign on my One X at all, the issues might have started around 2020ish so maybe if you played before then it was okay

and when i booted the game up on One S it was pretty much the same

[celest heron]

oh, I'm mainly referring to the Xone

[analog salmon]

honestly they both felt equally bad to me. The only difference is you can now lower the resolution on One X to 1080p and its alright. For One S you probably gotta go down to 720p, at which point is it even worth playing the remastered version lol

apparently it happened after Reach was added to the MCC

Maybe Im wrong and the issue is much worse on One X then the original and S

[crystal iron]

chief to covenant right after "Covenant Dance" starts playing

[agile lodge]

Of course it did, once they added reach it caused a heap of issues.

[analog salmon]

they will have made a lot of changes for PC and Series X/S optimisations which more likely causes the Saber3D-specific issues

[tepid sorrel]

chat im playing through mcc and im just wondering if any mcc multiplayer maps spoil any of their respective campaigns

[agile lodge]

Only halo reach

[tepid sorrel]

aight ty

[crystal iron]

Vannak helmet time.. cus I never lose lol

[dusk thunder]

Vannak’s helmet is literally the same model used for the Reach EoD helmet.

With Mk 7 helmet attachments

It’s a little disappointing

I mean that’s what it is in the show

[jagged crescent]

How do I get the act of genesis stance? It just says available in the halo infinite campaign

[dusk thunder]

But to make an identical helmet as a weekly reward? C’mon…

[dusk thunder]

You need a save file with 100% completion I think

All collectibles, all bosses, all marines saved, all high priority targets, skulls… everything.

[jagged crescent]

Oh

Nvm then lol I cannot be bothered to get 100%

I’m only on 61%

[dusk thunder]

It’s not that bad actually. None of the items are missable now that you can go back to any mission once you complete the campaign.

Just focus on one category at a time. Marines, skulls, radio towers, etc. It will go by quick.

[civic sundial]

Infinite's 100% on the campaign was honestly really nice to go for. At least compared to other games where I attempted it

[thorn sierra]

just beated halo 4's campaign

[grand sand]

btb is awful to play

at least if you're a solo player

[crystal iron]

I just noticed more.maos.innthe rotation for firefight and.thisnojenjas AI marines

[crystal iron]

how many ODST’s would there have to be to take down the average spartan?

[fickle hawk]

Depends on the skill and gen of spartan

[crystal iron]

yeah, although this time just the average spartan

[fickle hawk]

Probably a dozen or more, spartans are pretty strong and so is their armor, even a inexperienced spartan could probably do some damage before being put down

[crystal iron]

reasonable, yeah that’s probably the most accurate answer, thanks

[neon gate]

isnt the shop supposed to reset every tuesday

[signal ivy]

it did

it just has mostly the same stuff as last week

[neon gate]

hmm

its been like a month of the same stuff

[kind coral]

Hey guys is anybody able to explain to me why no one is playing MCC anymore? or at least on computer idunno

Is it caused by the fact that most players play on infinite?

[livid fable]

i think they just kinda left completely after hearing support was stopping, but i haven't noticed a difference in infinite populations

[livid fable]

a 14 year old accidentally killed a full grown odst unarmed in a boxing match

[kind coral]

damn that's pretty sad, I had a lot opf fun in halo reach and 4

[livid fable]

steam numbers might tell another story tho.

[remote scarab]

Halo has never had that big of an audience on PC, most players are on xbox, same with Infinite

as a PC player, 90% of the people I match are on xbox

the playerbases are fine, don't bother looking at steam charts or anything because they won't really tell you much besides Halo having a smaller playerbase on PC

also most players aren't actually on Infinite, it's more of a split between MCC and Infinite, with Infinite usually having more when content comes out, and MCC having a more steady playerbase overall

[crystal iron]

Are there Marine AI on all firefight maps or just a few

[glacial tartan]

MCCs population finally going up, where did you get this idea

[remote scarab]

I think it's just a steam chart thing panda

it can be really volatile sometimes so it gives people a skewed idea

[glacial tartan]

https://i.imgur.com/HsRBIjg.png

[remote scarab]

i feel a lot of the time, people look at something like hourly peak in a day rather than who's consistently playing, and even then it's skewed because Halo's audience is console

[glacial tartan]

One is MCC, the other is Infinite...take a guess bc honestly its nearly impossible to tell

Agree, averages matter much less than concurrent users. Too bad we cant know them

[livid fable]

if mcc pop is increasing, that's interesting, but not reflective of my matchmaking experiences. Maybe i'll have more luck changing when i look for games.

[glacial tartan]

What are you searching for? Admittedly if you search halo ce big team at 8AM on a weekday you may not find games

[livid fable]

well.... that's fair in retrospect, lol. Past 28 days have been night shift so that's actually when i've been playing

Day shift- i get to see the sunlight now. God it's so good.

[kind coral]

ooooh thanks for the info man, I appreciate it

I just miss playing Halo 4 with my friends I guess lmao

[sturdy iris]

it was for sale is probably why

[last dust]

4 has a good campaign. i had fun

its way too short tho

8 missions?! seriously?!

[molten radish]

what to set halo infinite weapon offset to match halo reach campaign

[thorn sierra]

Oh yea is the halo infinite campaign over? I wanna buy the DLC but im afraid the game is gonna update soon

[sly storm]

There is no DLC for inf

[thorn sierra]

wait what

[sly storm]

Yeah, what are you referring to?

[thorn sierra]

When i want to play the campaign it says i gotta buy the DLC

[sly storm]

Oh

That's the Campaign itself

I mean, we have no reason to believe they are adding more content Story wise, so if you are wanting to play it then wait until its on sale

[nova dirge]

halo infinite is pretty unique compared to the other campaigns

it just feels different

but also in infinite chief just runs around the ring and accomplishes nothing

[sly storm]

Its combat and graphics are some of the best in the franchise, but the story, dialogue, combat encounters, scenery and overall memorability is severely lacking.

[fading pike]

the grapplehook is imo the best thing 343 have done for halo’s mechanics ever

[drowsy rock]

Idk if the devs see this but I’m loving the friendly AI added to firefight!! Hopefully a Reach-style score attack mode can be added so I can play by myself with the AI

[agile lodge]

I wouldn’t go that far

I think ODST did a better approach to the “open world” aspect

They treat the open world as a hub of exploration while the clues you find as missions. Infinite doesn’t have any of that.

It all feels like one big mission without any cool set pieces.

[agile lodge]

I hate how quirky they made other Cortana, it’s like Josh Wheaton wrote the script or something.

[nova dirge]

yeah, in infinite everything just feels a bit too stationary

[sly storm]

I remember liking her my first playthrough, now I can't stand her. The Pilot is the worst character I think they've introduced personally. I would also like Chief to talk less and go back to his original demeanor. I amm not a fan of charactrizing him in the games. I like to read what he thinks and says from the books and keep the games focused on the power fantasy of myself in power armor.

[heavy edge]

Cross input matchmaking was a mistake

Wish infinite gave me an option like MCC to only play controller players

[misty vale]

Why? The aim bot strength makes controller the preferred input of higher skilled players

[agile lodge]

Yep, it was really repetitive and boring.

[agile lodge]

I really didn’t care for the pilot or other Cortana too. They tried to make him be his +1 like Johnson or to a lesser extent foehammer and it just doesn’t work.

All he does is whine and constantly doubt the chief, it’s annoying

[sly storm]

You nailed it on the head

[nova dirge]

and most of what chief says is kinda just useless dialouge there for the sake of it, unlike before where everything he said was important

[sly storm]

That can be said of a lot of things in the campaign

[agile lodge]

He only said a cool few lines but that’s about it

[ruby knoll]

fOr a BrIcK hE fLeW pReTtY gOoD

[ruby knoll]

Ah yes, hyper impactful chief dialogue like

"worse"

[nova dirge]

I mean, that line was pretty impactful and its pretty iconic

[ruby knoll]

Nah

You could take out most of Master Chief's lines from halo 3 with little impact

[crystal iron]

what did he actually say there?

expect " Worse " of course

[white birch]

Someone did just that. It didn't change much

He doesn't say anything during the killing of Truth

[ruby knoll]

Lel

[sly storm]

Id rather have Chief say a few lines that work or slide under the radar than a whole game where 85% of the dialogue sounds like it came from a monkey with a type writer

[sly storm]

That makes sense, it was the Arbiters moment. Cheif saw him two times.

[agile lodge]

And that worked, Cortana keeps up the quips non stop.

[uneven bison]

If our standards for impactful and iconic lines are just one word, that word being “worse” I worry about our standards of dialogue in games

Not that halo 3 is a shining example of good quotes or dialogue in the first place

[onyx latch]

I said it the other day in another chat-I'm not exactly sure why some Halo Fans are complaining about AI generated stuff if this is the quality people fawn over like it's the second coming.

(For the record, I'm strongly against Iterative algos)

[uneven bison]

I hate AI and every company should avoid using it if they have standards but if you get goo goo eyes over the word “worse” then you really have no grounds to complain

[onyx latch]

I'm not sure if I'm taking it a step too far if I think people should be actively ashamed, or shamed, for saying Halo 3's dialogue is anything but memetically awful.

I do think that sort of take should be openly considered the farce it so clearly is.

But then, there are people out there who still think Marty's a literary genius for that plot, so

[uneven bison]

Ashamed seems a bit too far. Embarrassing seems better, It’s a lie, but it isn’t necessary a harmful lie. Just one to make you chuckle and shake your head

Obviously untrue if you played the game

I think I’ve said this before, but if bad dialogue is really something people don’t like, then halo 3 would not be held in the high esteem that it is

[onyx latch]

Yeah, bit too strong of wording. Eh.

[ashen atlas]

I don’t think it was terrible as a whole. A lot of the dialogue fit for the situation. I do think the high/epic stakes of the missions carried the dialogue mostly

The only phrase that bothered me was the Miranda Keyes’ ‘To war.’ quip

If it even qualifies as a quip, as it tries to be witty, but it was just weird

[onyx latch]

It's a shame 3's 'stakes' are hamstrung so heavily by how damn easy the game is.

[last dust]

honestly my only issue with 3's plot is that Truth is an entirely different character than he was in 2

what happened to the cunning, methodical, sneaky villain from 2? why is he just insane now?

[onyx latch]

He wasn't honestly all that cunning in 2. He's pragmatic and vicious, but I wouldn't call him sneaky or methodical.

[last dust]

regardless, he WAS entirely different in 3

[onyx latch]

He decides the single best time to incite a civil war is on the eve of victory, which is... really not that smart.

[crystal iron]

If he first ensured Brutes get all the ships, or atleast 99% of them, he could win

in other words, he should've waited like a day if not less and he could've won easily

[crystal mortar]

are we gonna talk about the custom equipment that spawns a zealot

[gleaming fog]

As a new fan on the franchise, I did notice a change in Truth’s character Halo 3. In Halo 2 he seemed more cunning and soft spoken in a way where he always looked like he was the most intelligent one in the room.

Halo 3 he became outspoken and showed signs of insanity, and much to my surprise, even more signs of delusions of being a god of some sort.

I always thought that his sanity just broke due to the flood and the intensity of the war.

Not that it ruined the experience for me, but I did notice it.

[lusty wraith]

Really think Bungie panicked when Wincott said no to returning and whoever was writing the script had to make something that worked with the new VA

Such a shame since Wincott was fantastic

Halo 2 Truth wouldn’t have zoom-called the humans at all imo

Huge fan of Halo 3’s campaign but on the cutscene composition front it’s pretty stark how much better 2’s were

[magic loom]

I think he was always crazy. I think Truth acted more professional when he was around Mercy and Regret which is why he didnt mind getting rid of them, soon as the other two prophets were dead he didnt need to care much about how he sounded.

Theres alot of reasons to why I think he was crazed in Halo 3 which is very interesting

[jagged crescent]

I wish there was a mark vi core

But then people that got max rank would have done it for nothing ig

Also how do I fix unstable packet loss? I keep getting around 100ms and it’s unplayable

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[celest heron]

why am I in a 170 ping server when I literally got a FF game instantly...

[jagged crescent]

Are the servers fried or something

I wasted my last damn xp token

[full warren]

I never understood in a winning game if someone on your team leaves it wont add another person after its more than half way

literally had to play a 5 round single flag game 3v4 for 5 games

I mean if we were winning why not give us a player because his most likely going to win be instead we faught 5 games just to loss

[celest heron]

lmao, now I'm in a 350 ping server

[full warren]

highest I got was 280 and that was australia and I am uk so opposite side of the world lol

There should be a limit to how far you can go lol anything above 200 is unplayable because some weapons shoot faster than that lol

[livid sequoia]

Who tf thought Oddball was a gametype that belongs on Construct

[onyx latch]

Construct doesn't belong on Construct lmao

[celest heron]

do splatters work in this game? ran into someone full speed and they just bounced off me.

okay it redeemed itself and gave me three splatters in one game.

[crystal iron]

Dear God my team.had to be bots no way they kept dying like that,

In firefight, I even had hunter followers, that's where I got overconfident and tried reviving my hole team.thinkijg the hunters would take the blunt of the damage and so we lost

In the first round

[crystal iron]

Which one is construct?

[crystal iron]

Haven't played on that one yet but I'm mostly doing firefight

[celest heron]

I guess it's better to lose early than to barely win the early rounds and lose in round 3 or 4.

[crystal iron]

I wish we got the bandana skull more often so I could just use the sniper rifle the whole time

[crystal iron]

Dear God why is Escherums melee range so insane with the scrap canmon

[crystal iron]

Well thank God I don't have to do PVP any.lre weekly done, I had both flag captures and on the Thrid one my whole team for some reason. Gave up

[crystal mortar]

Why does your selected character no longer effect your loadout in odst

[open umbra]

The friendly AIs seem to lose the weapon you gave when you resummon them.

Fragmentation -> Marines with snipers
Breaker -> Hunters

[onyx latch]

Never did?

[crystal mortar]

I'm gonna assume you never played xbox 360 odst then

[onyx latch]

Actually, did it on Legendary.

No idea what the hell you're on about. Only first player gets the level loadout weapons in co-op campaign, and you only have a special weapon set on the first spawn cycle of NMPD HQ Firefight-and that's for everybody, not just Romeo.

And that's been the case since ODST's launch.

[crystal mortar]

I'm talking about firefight

[onyx latch]

Was never a thing in firefight.

You only spawn with snipers on NMPD HQ's Firefight map as any character.

[crystal mortar]

Damm bro can't believe the halo discord is gaslighting me

[onyx latch]

... Gaslighting you? How? I'm literally telling you the truth, I have no reason to lie about this.

[crystal mortar]

I explicitly remember loading into firefight maps as dutch and spawning with a splaser

[onyx latch]

Then your memory is faulty.

You can get one on a few maps... By walking there and grabbing it. But you'll never spawn with it in firefight.

[crystal mortar]

Hey man only i get to nake fun of My memory

[onyx latch]

You also fight your way through a Firefight map, as Dutch, with a Splaser, but that's only in campaign and if you still had the spawn laser on your person.

[crystal mortar]

Well then i don't know how i spawned with a splaser, but i did

[onyx latch]

Yeah, and one of my Spectrobes died of sadness on my DS.

[crystal mortar]

What the hell is a spectrobe

[onyx latch]

Cool game from the DS days.

[delicate pivot]

Is halo wars worth playing I've never really played an rts

[remote scarab]

the story is really good! I'd recommend playing on an easier difficulty, but it should be really fun for you

just make sure to be patient and learn the mechanics, it can be a little tricky at first if you've never ever played an rts style game, but halo wars is a great one to start with

[delicate pivot]

Yeah i hear it's horrible on legendary lol but i never play the games on high difficulties my first playthrough

[slender frigate]

Why can't I use the chroma blue AR skin in Halo 2, even after unlocking it?

[civic sundial]

Are you playing classic or anniversary Halo 2 MP?

Because the AR is only in the anniversary MP of Halo 2

[crystal iron]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/weTNycujzD

This was a satisfying kill

[frosty condor]

Share that in #1076327824924872755

[keen falcon]

Is the Halo CE armor gonna come back to Infinite at some point or did I get fomo’d

[civic sundial]

I'm pretty sure you can still buy it if you check the armour kit section of the Mark VII

[keen falcon]

Oh damn

Why is that so hidden

[frosty condor]

I don’t think it’s hidden

I like to explore and press all the things when browsing the different cores

[keen falcon]

Just feels like it’d be more sensical to keep it as an item in the shop, it’s just more intuitive

[frosty condor]

Then the store will be clogged up

[keen falcon]

That’s why god invented pages

And categories

[frosty condor]

Not to poke, but it was on there for a month 😱

[keen falcon]

Good UX would probably just be putting everything that is purchaseable inside the store

[frosty condor]

There may be a UX limitation for the store

[civic sundial]

Also having everything in the store all at once would require allot of redesigning of that specific UI

[keen falcon]

No more than they’ve already redesigned it, the HCS offers page is evidence enough of that

They have the capability to add pages with tons more content behind them

The HCS offers page has 40 different things listed in it

[crystal iron]

Wow I thought the frame rate drop issue was fixed in firefight. It just had it happen right now

[worn iron]

Fortunately I don't have any issues, then again I'm running a RTX 4080 so if I was...

[keen falcon]

Is anyone who has the Combat Evolved Mark V armor able to confirm if other coatings can be used on it?

[hardy belfry]

Yes, other coatings can be used, since now you can customize armor kits(armor effect, coating, visor)

[worn iron]

Yes

[crystal iron]

Omg firefight is unplayable for me first I'm getting like 256 latency and then the frame rates just start dropping like crazy

[civic sundial]

Visor, coating and emblems can be changed on Mark V

[rough field]

When the hell is controller sensitivity on infinite gonna get a change

It’s so slow yet keyboard and mouse players can do crazy movements and stuff

It’s so unfair personally

[delicate pivot]

I wish there was a feature where you could randomize what core was equipped so it would change every match

Or you could make loadouts for certain cores and switch between those randomly

You could either pick to randomize all or you could favorite a few and randomize your favorites

Unless you can already do this and I'm just blind

[misty vale]

You cannot currently do those things.

[ashen atlas]

That’s a pretty cool idea

[ancient sun]

So how do you actually get the friendly AI in the new firefight maps?

[signal ivy]

they're custom pickups

hidden on some maps

[ancient sun]

In specific places?

Do they look like an overshield or something?

[signal ivy]

yes and yes

some are in drop pods

I think there's a YT video that shows them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi6FlTSxIvU

[abstract oar]

LFG MCC halo 4 legendary Spartan ops

[inland minnow]

use the lfg channels to find players

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[quasi nexus]

my dad is older than me

[full warren]

WOW I can't play firefight legendary because not enough players wtf

wait its all the game modes wtf

restart game fixed some game modes weird.....

[crystal mortar]

whuh

[full warren]

not sure if legendary got better or people got better we completing it 4/5 5/5 with random now

[young glen]

I imagine all the underskilled players got their butts kicked and decided not to return lol.

[full warren]

spoke too soon everyone left hill lol and i had to fight it alone and lost. Thoguht someone went to revive but apaprently they died too lool

[fickle pond]

Honestly

[ocean phoenix]

legendary is too easy, should be LASO without blind

[civic sundial]

Which game's legendary are we talking about?

[ocean phoenix]

infinite fireifhgt

[icy forge]

Anyone around Asia like to play Halo infinite now? Cuz I might got high ping with America.
Im available for any game mode.

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[hollow ore]

getting really tired of only getting the old maps have limited time per day to play halo, and haven't gotten the new maps once for firefight.

It is to the point that I am debaiting leaving matches on the old maps.

[jagged crescent]

what is next weeks ultimate reward?

[signal ivy]

we won't know until next week

[crystal iron]

Will the cat bundle return or no

[onyx latch]

Discounted? Who knows.

But you can buy it whenever you want now

[crystal iron]

I've tried looking, can't find it

[worn iron]

Agreed, legendary is super easy with a good team

[rugged quartz]

Is it not in the customization shop

[crystal iron]

No

Dang, oh well

[misty vale]

go to a helmet on which it can be equipped, go into the attachment screen, find it, click on it, down at the bottom should say "purchase", then close that screen.

Do not reward companies for instituting MX in games it is ruining gaming.

[crystal iron]

Ahh

I was wondering how

[sturdy iris]

tbh principally supporting a f2p game with low-effort high roi cosmetics that you can directly buy is probably the next best thing to older $60 get it all models
the issue is that instead of just an inch of mtx a lot of companies take a mile (cod is an egregious example)

and they tend to ruin their game's atmosphere (but that isnt a given...just what they tend to do)

[crystal iron]

A friend who I just got playing infinite asked

[sharp summit]

some idiot took my tank while i was repairing it and didnt give it back

[onyx latch]

Move your feet, lose your seat

[sharp summit]

he got 3 kills before dying and destroying the tank

[onyx latch]

Based

[sharp summit]

did you bother reading?

[onyx latch]

Yes, lmao.

It's very funny, because I've had similar things happen to me.

Getting out of your tank is an implicit agreement that you are risking someone less competent getting in it

It's like how I used to get hatemail for stealing enemy tanks in BF when people got out to repair their vehicles.

Or stealing friendly tanks when they tried the same thing, because anyone getting out of a tank to repair it in Battlefield is a fool who deserves to lose their tank

[sharp summit]

how does that make sense

my tank was about to die so i fixed it

[onyx latch]

That's more a Battlefield thing. I wouldn't do that in Halo.

Well, to a friendly.

[sharp summit]

i should be on the same team as my teamates here

[onyx latch]

Welcome to Halo, first game?

Point is, not everyone has the same etiquette. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[full warren]

the matches are pretty onesided these days lol 50/21 (won) is not what i call fair and I lost BTB 3-0 a lot today

[quasi nexus]

which game?

halo mcc or halo 6?

[sharp summit]

infinite

[quasi nexus]

i didn't even realize you could repair in halo 6 haha.

sorry to hear bro people are seflish

[coarse dagger]

Repair field is a fairly recent addition to the sandbox for Infinite

[white birch]

Long have we waited for it

[celest heron]

should've exited, threw the repair field down and then got back in.

[livid fable]

don't sweat the troll

[worn iron]

Yep. Exit, throw repair field, hop back in.

[livid fable]

bad teammates happen. we almost lost the game of heroic firefight because the idiot driving the warthog refused to get near me so I can throw the repair field on it while it was smoking and burning

the other three all died at the same time and I just chilled and lost the point. I'm not going to sweat for stupid.

and that's kind of the mindset you have to take with a lot of your teammates. knowing how to fall back is important. knowing when to get out of a vehicle is important. knowing when your allies don't know any of these things is extremely important.

[sharp summit]

exactly what i did

less than a second i am able to perform that but he must have been waiting

or in the gunner spot

[agile lodge]

Halo infinite the biggest Halo fold of all time

[gleaming fog]

What does one do in Halo Infinite after beating the campaign (other than doing the legendary difficulty)?

[finite prawn]

i can help you

[signal ivy]

go for 100% completion to get the MP stances

[ocean phoenix]

You;re overthinking it lol, randoms do what they like, not what makes the team work

[gleaming fog]

So do I just spend my moments playing Multiplayer?

[finite prawn]

do laso

[finite prawn]

i just throw plasma grenades at people at point blank range and make them rage its fun

KD IS 1.00

[gleaming fog]

What’s laso?

[finite prawn]

legendary with a lot of skulls on

[ocean phoenix]

Legendary All Skulls On

Skulls are modifiers which add in things like double enemy health, no shield recharge etc

[celest heron]

[rugged quartz]

That's very annoying when it happens

[rugged quartz]

Unfortunately some people are like that 😦
I like to repair if i can

[frosty condor]

I feel like the engineer class in the BattleField games when I toss a repair field on vehicles

https://tenor.com/view/bff-bffs-battlefield-friends-engineer-tank-bye-gif-15639749

[ashen atlas]

I was flying low with a wasp one match and had a guy keep following me around for a few minutes, so I stopped wondering what he was trying to do and he throws a repair field on me

What a chad

It was probably closer to about a minute, maybe a minute and a half

[neon gate]

what armor core are these skins in the shop for

[ashen atlas]

I’d have to check again to be sure. But I’d say it’s most likely for the mark IV

[molten radish]

halo infinite weapon offsets to match halo reach campaign?

[jade iron]

It says in the desc

[rugged quartz]

The midweekly is for all

[last dome]

The 25 bucks I spend is worth it

[white birch]

I always try to comm if I have the repair for that reason.

[hollow jackal]

damn it i gotta do level all over again cus it soft locked some how

[frosty condor]

You got this, Spartan

[hollow jackal]

door stuck

its white indicatin i can go thru but its not opening

at lest i wasnt too far

[hollow jackal]

noor atempt 2

aand soft lock

[civic sundial]

What level are you on?

[hollow jackal]

oracle im doing another halo 2 uncut run

since last 2 levels in the mod

in workshop

[civic sundial]

Ah, I haven't checked out Uncut yet so it's possible that it's a bug exclusive to the mod

[hollow jackal]

yeah imma let mod devoloper know

[civic sundial]

Because as far as I know that's not a bug in Halo 2 when it's unmodded

[hollow jackal]

good thin i got chekpoint before i was in

[civic sundial]

Hopefully outside of that it's been fun to play though

[hollow jackal]

so when i continue when its fixed il wont be soft locked

[hollow jackal]

yeah i done it before when it was just till uprising

[civic sundial]

Fair

[hollow jackal]

in elevator there was sentinels left i went back and killed em thinking well maby cus theres still enemies around

[civic sundial]

Yeah, I don't remember that door being locked dependant on enemies being dead

[hollow jackal]

it does seem to do anything

what bout npc you have with you dying

[civic sundial]

At least in the base game, I remember being able to go through that door when they're alive or dead

Preferably alive given the next encounter goes slightly better when you have extra bodies to deal with the Flood

[hollow jackal]

i think in my first run on halo 2 uncut most teamates had died

i though it was cus ship master died the guy with sword that acompanies you nope

[hollow ore]

been playing firefight all week and only seen one of the new maps, once.... I am starting to rage and leave any matches on the old maps.

[half sedge]

Cricket cricket

[worn iron]

Keep trying, it took like 5 games and I finally got Breaker

[hollow ore]

23 before I got one of the new maps, the one that has the elites.

[worn iron]

Nice, unfortunate that it took 23 lol

On Breaker you get 2 Hunters which was cool

[open umbra]

There are two maps have elites as ally: Scarr (Elite Zealot) and Fragmentation (Marines + Elite Majors).

[hollow ore]

Scarr

[celest heron]

I feel like we should only get allies on the higher difficulties. normal mode felt even easier with them.

[candid fulcrum]

Hey! Does anyone have a solution for the 10 minute initial loading times for infinite with Nvidia GPUs?

Also, looking for a solution for all settings resetting every time I open the game for the steam version

[crimson eagle]

need help with halo infinite

its not loading up

[wide trout]

#1075989764026675210

[candid fulcrum]

amen

[misty vale]

Old driver. Update driver.

[split oracle]

whys mcc's playerbase incredibly toxic? i presumed itd be pretty chill and casual but i couldnt have been more wrong

its a shame because i miss playing the old games

[fringe wren]

A lot of people don't know what it's like to be nice. Always pressured into being "top dog" or "better"

People who have common sense and maturity don't stick around that.

Nostalgia is great, but people hang onto things for too long

[zealous panther]

I wonder why they didn't do the odst game like Helldivers... Oh well too late now

[sturdy iris]

why does infintie enemy ai feel so easy

[civic sundial]

Are you playing on easy?

[candid fulcrum]

updated to most recent one n restarted, no change, fix I saw online was to downgrade it

[young plank]

What if there were a halo spinoff game but it was similar to ODST, and it was against the insurrectionists either pre or post covenant war.

[onyx latch]

Helldivers has loadouts, sprint, extra mobility, callable ordinance, no recharging health short of stimpacks, 'generic' steel and red robot enemies, and aim down sights.

Literally all of these are things that people have complained about constantly.

[sturdy iris]

legendary

[wide trout]

perhaps theres just less BS in this game so they seem "easier" when in reality they are just well balanced

[sturdy iris]

probably lol

[vague iron]

So when are they gonna expand on the story for halo infinite? When are they gonna add weapons from legacy games like the magnum or smg?

[celest heron]

unknown and why would you want them back?

[hexed hedge]

Why isn't there more ranked playlists in Infinite?

[vague iron]

Why wouldn’t you? The M90 CAWS is based

The sidekick is a terrible sidearm, bring back the M6C.

[onyx latch]

Living up to the username tbh

Props

[vague iron]

Why is it terrible? Looks too conventional. At least add an attachment kit that mimics the trigger guard of the M6 series. That at least would make some sense.

[vague iron]

L take, seek braincells

[onyx latch]

Dude, I was already sold on your character acting, you don't need to try harder.

[vague iron]

See, I’m all about 10mm as a sci fi cartridge, but the fact that they were using 12.7 SAPHE as a standard sidearm cartridge up until some completely unexplained event that entirely revamped their general issue loadouts makes zero sense.

[thorn sierra]

I changed the geometry dash death sound effect and replaced it with wort wort wort

[vague iron]

It was already odd that they kept overhauling the physical models of a lot of the guns in the previous games, but variants of the same platform would be understandable. But to just completely cut out staples of guns in previous halo games and make them not rare, but nonexistent just doesn’t make any sense. Not to mention that the ones they replaced them with in infinite just don’t look as cool. Halo 2 and 3 were the absolutely peak of art and function.

Genuinely, the only issue I have with the older games would be the Halo CE 35B, with a 60 round capacity or 7.62x51. How? It’s a big gun but that would just make it borderline unwieldy.

But infinite almost completely missed the mark with their changes to what the UNSC uses. Spartans are starting to look a bit goofy ahh too.

The props I will give them is that they didn’t make MC look like a balloon animal this go around.

[ocean phoenix]

Can someone confirm whether quick play on Halo infinite can be queued with 8 players?

[silent orchid]

4 person fireteams for quickplay

[ocean phoenix]

@silent orchidfml

i need that strongholds achievement

Same for Halo 3 refuelded?

[silent orchid]

most likely

[ocean phoenix]

Got it, thank christ

[frosty condor]

Please don’t tag 343 employees

[ocean phoenix]

No one else can answer my question 😦

Just got 100% just checking

[frosty condor]

Cause nobody knows the answer. This isn’t the place to ask them either.

[ocean phoenix]

kk

[twin jackal]

Is anyone else’s ultimate not completing? Ive gotten plenty of splatters in mp but its not saying its complete

Like ive played 2 btb matches and a h3 playlist match all with atleast one splatter, still wont redeem

[frosty condor]

Restart your game?

[twin jackal]

That did nothing. I played another match and it finally gave it to me.. weird

[jade iron]

Any advice for fighting the flood in H2, I swear their shotguns will one hit at any range

[frosty condor]

plasma rifle + smg melt them

or the sentinel beam

[jade iron]

Is the sword not a good strat then, cuz I find tons of them but before I can even sneak up on a flood I'm dead

[civic sundial]

It's good in a pinch but you really don't want to give them the chance to be in that close of a range

So don't get rid of the sword, just make sure you have something to keep them from getting too close

[jade iron]

I've been stealing their shotguns and it used to work great but now there are just way too many

[frosty condor]

swords are insta death to them. But like Slip Tech said, keep your distance. I recommend the sent beam

[jade iron]

Alr thanks for the tips

[agile lodge]

Halo 2 flood sucks

[jade iron]

Truth

[frosty condor]

Ever since they gave em rockets, I too was afraid of them

[jade iron]

i have yet to see a rocket flood

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-you-teddy-the-christmas-chronicles2-youre-so-lucky-sarcastic-gif-19352587

[open umbra]

You'll see them in Quarantine Zone

[jade iron]

im playing that rn

[sturdy iris]

legendary ff probably shouldnt have ammo boxes on the maps that have them

easy to spam br at anything without shield

[zealous panther]

i don't get your point.

[onyx latch]

Which part are you stuck on?

Here, I'll post the meme, maybe it'll help.

[zealous panther]

This is different type of game. People don't want all of this in the main game, but in spinoff with odsts noone would complain

i can't imagine anything of this being good in arena fps like... idk Quake. But with changed mechanics for a different type of game it will be ok, we had a Quake wars battlefield clone and it was good game. This is just example.

[onyx latch]

🙄

That statement comes across as pretty naive regarding knowledge of this fanbase.

[zealous panther]

there will be no time like in good old days anymore. Times changed

[onyx latch]

Because people complained about Wars; They complained about Strike and Assault; They even complained about Wars 2. They complained about the changes from CE to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to Reach, so on and so forth. Some people got outright livid over the original ODST.

And on top of that, even if it would be a spinoff, it is utterly ridiculous to assert that it's somehow not hypocritical to say they should make a Halodivers with all the trappings. It's convenient to say it isn't, but convenience does not make things true.

[onyx latch]

Which is fair, and valid. It's not like Halo's going to evolve if people refuse to let it by driving potential new fans away.

It's the hypocrisy on display to the tune of the desires I am criticizing, not the realities of why it'd likely do okay.

[zealous panther]

Hey, i complain about Reach to this day. But in the end of the day game just need to be good.

[ashen atlas]

I think what people didn’t like about that was that it was an arena pvp shooter. In a pve centered game people may have reacted differently

[onyx latch]

If that's all it took, then I'm doubling down in how stupid it is.

[ashen atlas]

As for me. I prefer the old style if it’s gonna stay an arena based game

[onyx latch]

Kinda why 5 was more of a return to form than even Infinite was in some ways (Obvs not all), but people aren't ready for that conversation.

Warzone notwithstanding.

[onyx latch]

... Actually, 5 and Infinite are two different levels of return to form, I'm being unfair here.

[ashen atlas]

I thought halo 5 was pretty good in how they balanced new with old. Halo 4 multiplayer was just odd to me

[onyx latch]

I'll forever die on the hill of the key failure point in 4's loadout system was actually being stuck with its foot in the door for such a system as opposed to utilizing one in the first place, but the even bigger failure point was launching on Xbox 360 and not Xbox One-with all the time in the oven that would've needed.

The latter's a different conversation.

[ashen atlas]

I agree on the load out system not being really up to par for 4

[onyx latch]

I mean, look at its competition.

BlOps 2? Good lord.

They came out 6 days apart.

[ivory reef]

Has anyone else got the brushtread disruptive coating in the store but can't equip it as it stays locked?

[ashen atlas]

Yeah, comparing the 2. H4 seemed it was still in testing phase with its load outs

[onyx latch]

Known bug. Submit a report on the website if you can, though considering this is a known problem, you may not need to.

[ivory reef]

Okay thanks for the answer

[onyx latch]

I feel like a hypothetical 5, with Breakout reworked as the 'stock loadout' modes and 'Warzone' reimagined with a drastically improved version of the 4 loadout system, would've done quite well for itself.

One of the biggest issues I ever had with 5 was Warzone not having loadouts despite being set up in such a way that it'd actually make sense.

... That and maybe tightening up Warzone's belt a bit. Needed more polish that they likely didn't have the time to implement.

[sturdy iris]

i dont get why ppl want odst divers they arent rambo

[onyx latch]

Fandom of memes from like 2011 or whatever. Helldivers fall from the sky and wear black armor with color highlights.

I mean, even the original Helldiver game was inspired by ODSTs, in terms of aesthetics.

[zealous panther]

It was just continuation of horrible reach systems.

[onyx latch]

Eh. Reach still somehow ended up more CoDlike than 4 did.

[sturdy iris]

they look alike but i mean the kd of the helldivers to the kd of odsts

ppl would cry about muh lore

[onyx latch]

Well, if it's me, 1-1 on both counts.

I doubt it tbh. People don't cry about it for 3 ODST, and people fawn over ODSTs constantly anyways.

If anything, people would complain if it were Spartans, despite them making marginally more sense.

[sturdy iris]

werent there a lot of people mad about rookie not being dead in a plasma shot

[onyx latch]

Yes and no.

Community consensus is "ODSTs cool and good, where ODSTs, give ODSTs" over lore-friendly implications of the plot of Halo games with ODST characters.

[sturdy iris]

i liked the covert vibe odst did but i see why they fell back to the halo formula for it

[onyx latch]

I would've rather had an ODST stealth game with good loud combat, a'la Ghost Recon Future Soldier, but that's just me.

[sturdy iris]

ya

[onyx latch]

Not like Bungie had the timing, energy, or funds for it at the time. At least they gave it a banger of a plot.

[sturdy iris]

and we got silent smg for like half a mission

[onyx latch]

Some early prototype stuff for 5 showcased loadouts actually being more along the line of Ghost Recon Future Soldier's Gunsmith, or CoD's if you want to be unfair to the original game with Gunsmith.

(Seriously, how the hell did they think nixing Gunsmith for Wildlands and Breakpoint was a good idea)

[sturdy iris]

i never knew about tht and i cant really tell how it would work either but i feel like it somehow ended up with us getting reqs

[onyx latch]

🤷‍♂️

Reqs were a weird system that was introduced in a way, I, personally, think was perfectly apt regarding the fanbase it was presented to.

Still lootboxes, still awful because of it, but they weren't exactly good at being lootboxes.

[hollow jackal]

my god

door is not stuck anymore

i dont quite comprehand how npc path finding got broken

not even sure how it unbroke it self

[civic sundial]

Just be glad it did and hope it doesn't happen again

[hollow jackal]

ye

i was jumping for walk way

that some how made npc rember oh yeah i shoud get going

[austere cedar]

Hey, I don’t know how this happened, but I have never played Halo before. I just beat Halo CE and it literally blew my socks off. Such an amazing game. Literally joined this discord just because I wanted to tell someone how awesome this game is

[sturdy iris]

halo awesome i love you

[sturdy iris]

i liked the variants but like you said lootbox is lootbox

[hollow jackal]

it is

great and it get better till halo 4

[real urchin]

Is there an official place to provide game suggestions/feedback?

I just have a simple thing. Can they please add the map names when you load into a match?

[onyx latch]

Honestly, yeah

[austere cedar]

I love you too

[vast nova]

Infinite's 1st Level Is Like CE & 2's but with a twist :Instead of Starting on the Good guy's Ship, You Start on the Bad Guy's Ship

[onyx latch]

But is ultimately still a gray, depressing ship.

I wish Conan got his wish for those rugs on the Infinity. Big area rugs.

[civic sundial]

Halo 4 is great though

[hollow jackal]

for me its meh

[vast nova]

i didnt like 4 that much

[grand sand]

Solo queueing is really just bad in btb

[hollow jackal]

oh man i found off the path rocket laucher on delta halo

ok that is neat i was wondering what was there just hoppe over from tank

[real urchin]

this hit detection is so bad on PC

[sharp summit]

is it possible to purchace less than 500 credits

i only need 100 more to get something

[hollow jackal]

oh god

the reget boss makes me wanna activate all halo arrays at once

theres extended figth after reget is dead if you die you get sent back mid boss figth

Funny enougth died only once

[thorn sierra]

I WAS PLAYING HALO 3 ON LEGENDARY AND THE ARBITER FLUNG ME RANDOMLY LMAO

[hollow jackal]

lol

[teal scarab]

anybody tried doing current ultimate challenge in firefight koth?

[signal ivy]

you can't

has to be in PVP

[sharp summit]

what is a good way to get a team photo of my fireteam

the ways i try mix the players up or have ui in the way

[worn iron]

Get them together in a custom game, then go back in Theater mode and hit backspace twice (I think?) to hide the UI.

[sharp summit]

any way to get the stances?

[worn iron]

I haven't tried it personally, but I'd say: Create a custom team game with some easy objective, win, then you'll get the stance menu.

That or go play FF KOTH and win, then you'll for sure get it lol

[vast nova]

what happens if i get Just Reach on the MCC on Xbox

[ruby knoll]

you'd have just reach in MCC on xbox

[vast nova]

what

so it works like the PC Ver

[civic sundial]

No

MCC on console by default is Halo CE to 4, Reach and ODST are separate purchases within MCC as they weren't included back when MCC first released in 2014

[ruby knoll]

oh

[dreamy silo]

Do y'all know of some small interesting or funny little bugs or interactions in Halo 3?
I'm looking to release a mod that does a bunch of bug fixes for H3. I've compiled a nice list of things, but want to get as many as I can. Some examples include: in Covenant 3 Brutes piloting banshees at third tower of Covenant are weilding battle rifles; in Floodgate most elite reinforcements start with their shields depleted.