halo-discussion

[tardy turtle]

Indeed it is

CST, at least

[granite sphinx]

hey just wondering but has anyone ever counted all the marines/human npcs u see and/or encounter during all your time during campaign missions, I had a shot at it and counted ~536 marines/ crew/ civilians for halo 3, I spent way too long doing this but the results were quite surprising

including cutscene marines and dead marines*

[tardy turtle]

Can't say I've done that, but I did have a single Marine follow me in The Ark from the downed Pelican all the way to the Cartographer. Filmed the whole segment centered around her and called it "Michelle's Story" because she was voiced by Michelle Rodriguez

[signal ivy]

I thought she was only in H2

[granite sphinx]

was thinking about maybe creating a file with all the marines u encounter, and where, for the sake of information that isn't known since I never found a video or statements talking about that sort of thing.

[tardy turtle]

She's most prominent as the Marine on the bridge in Halo 2, but nah she's in 3 as well

[signal ivy]

hmm

[tardy turtle]

I'm going to have to film a character for proof, it seems. Just checked IMDB and she is not credited, but I'd know her voice anywhere lol

[signal ivy]

she's not listed in the H3 credits either

[tardy turtle]

Bruh, did I get Mandala'd?

[granite sphinx]

could be another voice actor that sounded similar that or they reused voice lines

[tardy turtle]

The video I filmed way back then is gone too

[granite sphinx]

Which could be plausible

[limber crow]

Guys

When is the next halo 3 update?

I’ve been waiting awhile now

[ruby knoll]

in 10 years

[analog salmon]

11th December 2552

[sullen anvil]

Why does this game keep pairing me against people who have been playing since birth im not even that good

all things considered im probably really trash at H3 too

8-21 god I wanna die

[twin crag]

what kind of update are you expecting?

[grim citrus]

Old 343 did all of that and got flamed by the community for not being halo

[analog salmon]

What interesting stuff did 343 add to Halo and get flamed for not being halo?

[grim citrus]

Spartan Abilities, Armours, Game Modes, Plot Arcs for campaigns, changing the sound engine

[analog salmon]

i dont recall halo lacking any of those things prior to 343 taking over the franchise

[grim citrus]

What?

[analog salmon]

last i checked, Bungie's last Halo game added abilities, armours, game modes, plot arcs, and changed the sound engine

[plain junco]

Yeah literally everything but armour abilities were never in halo and armour abilities were in reach and everyone hated them back then too

Always in halo my b

[grim citrus]

…

[analog salmon]

what? You said the community flames any change and then pointed out a bunch of things Bungie did for Reach lol

[tardy turtle]

I think with the plot arc Jules mostly meant the Forerunners. Which, thank the gods for that, because everything before was a bloody mess. No, I hold no interest of discussing that further yet again

[limber crow]

Idk gun nerfs like the gravity hammer is so op right now

[twin crag]

that's Halo fans :D

[tardy turtle]

To be fair 343 did get flamed for Sprint, Abilities, etc while it was just suddenly glossed over that Bungie introduced them with Halo Reach, or even giving the flaccid excuse of "Yeah, but at least Bungie did it right."

[analog salmon]

also sorry but 343 halo sound engines are just bad. I don't think the actual audio used in the games is bad, but the engine is awful compared to Bungie's halo games and every other shooter

[grim citrus]

Warzone, extraction, Regiside, the Created Arc, Cortana as the antagonist, different sounds engine

[twin crag]

I doubt that will happen anymore,

[analog salmon]

well maybe not every other shooter but a lot of them have much better sound engines

[plain junco]

I remember the forums widely disliking armour abilities in reach to be fair

[twin crag]

bungie actually used mostly stock gun sounds

[grim citrus]

Those were all existing in the bungie gamees?

C’mon man

[analog salmon]

the sound engine and the sounds is not the same thing

[grim citrus]

… you’re joking right

[twin crag]

ic I was going in a diff direction

[tardy turtle]

They did, yes. Up until Halo 4

It is The Great Cycle

[analog salmon]

343 have been tweaking the sound engine for Halo Infinite since launch but the sounds used in the game have not changed

[grim citrus]

Okay man

[analog salmon]

if you're going to refer specifically to the sound engine then Im going to say its a solid downgrade from Bungie's games

[plain junco]

Well another element of course was the load out system in 4 and how now everyone had sprint but yeah

[grim citrus]

And why is that

[twin crag]

this is also supposedly because of reach it may seem

[analog salmon]

because audio awareness is just garbage in 4 and Infinite. You often can't hear when you're getting shot in the back from 2ft away

[plain junco]

No loadouts were strictly only for armour abilities. You could not select your weapons outside of like invasion and they were pre-made for each race. It was still an unbalanced start and thats what everyone disliked back in the day

[grim citrus]

And it’s better in CE-reach?

[analog salmon]

yes

miles better, not even close comparison

[grim citrus]

Explain the differences

[twin crag]

it seems like you're talking about what happened not the events that led it to happen

[analog salmon]

i have zero problem knowing the direction of incoming gunfire in any bungie halo game

im not an expert on sound engines so i cant say what's wrong with 4/Infinite

[plain junco]

What even is your point?

[grim citrus]

I have no problem with 4 and 5

[analog salmon]

i can just tell you my audio awareness is absolutely horrible in 343 games compared to Bungie's

Infinite is the worse but 4 is so muddy

[grim citrus]

So it’s not a downgrade, it’s just preferences.

[analog salmon]

its not a preference when so many players cannot hear themselves being shot in the back lol

its a defective sound engine

[grim citrus]

It is a preference if I can hear it just fine

It wouldn’t be a preference if I suffered the same issue

[plain junco]

There were several times in infinite in comp where I could not hear the footsteps of a hulking spartan literally two meters behind me that I absolutely could even in 5

[twin crag]

from the article I've read,
when 343 was working on Halo 4, and they were analysing data from reach, they found that people heavily preferred sprint over other abilities, so they made sprint default
and then expanded upon the abiliy selector/loadout system

[grim citrus]

I can’t say much for infinite because I don’t play the game, but I can speak about about 4 and 5

[analog salmon]

semantics. point is its defective for a lot of players which is why they are getting flamed for it

[grim citrus]

It’s not semantics.

But do you man.

[analog salmon]

and rightly so. games should be accessible to everyone. Im not hard hearing, i should be able to hear if im being shot in the back

sorry i flame 343 for not being able to meet what i consider a basic need in a video game

[grim citrus]

Lmao.

Never heard a person complain about the sound engine being inconsistent in 4 and 5 until today.

[analog salmon]

i dont even complain about it any more but acting like the sound engine downgrade is flaming 343 for "adding interesting stuff" is a laughable

you literally said people complain about it bro

[plain junco]

Yes because sprint was the easiest of use and was ripped right out of cod. Bungie's initial mistake should have never been continued and it was made worse in 4 with the load out system again, ripped straight from cod, and the gamemodes with those stupid ordnance drops which were basically a substitute for killstreaks

[analog salmon]

im responding to you complaining that people complain about the sound engine and now you say people dont complain about the sound engine?

Lmao.

[twin crag]

so it may seem like 343 was not responsible for the sprint fiasco afterall

[tardy turtle]

"Ripped right out of COD"

And every other major title

[plain junco]

That doesn't make it any more part of halos identity and it certainly didn't in reach

[twin crag]

5 years of civil wars in the Halo community is actually bungo fault

I wonder what would happen if the community actually realised that

[tardy turtle]

Mmhm. I think this whole notion of game mechanics like Sprint being a part of "Halo's Identity" is absolutely ridiculous to still be having

[plain junco]

They were responsible for continuing the trend but I stated bungie made a mistake of adding it in the first place

[twin crag]

everything in the data suggested the same 🤷‍♂️
everyone seems to be doing the same as well

[grim citrus]

Especially when bungie was testing out sprint all the way back in the halo 2 days

[tardy turtle]

And even more so, the typical hang-up of "Sprint = CoD and that's bad" is just... so lazy and tired.

Imagine hearing FPS players from 1999 and 2000 still complaining that Dual Analog input is just copying Halo: CE, it's not the identity of Wulfenstein and that's a terrible thing.

[plain junco]

Sprint is.. not the only issue. Maps were enlarged in 5, despite the walking movement speed in 5 being faster than literally every other halo. Why? To give an illusion of speed and distance, otherwise sprint would be meaningless in halo

[tardy turtle]

Not the bigger maps!

[grim citrus]

You do realize it was to accommodate the traversal… right

What the… lol

[twin crag]

to integrate sprint properly 🤷‍♂️
as you are only saying

[plain junco]

That's two completely different parallels you're drawing here. One is an input restriction and one is a gameplay mechanic. Doom was playable with mouse input and keyboard controls.

[grave ether]

I loved 5s map sizes

[grim citrus]

Imagine saying big maps is a negative

[tardy turtle]

And? My point is that Inputs and Mechanics don't make for a games Identity

[twin crag]

compared to infinite, I agree

[grave ether]

Infinite sometimes feels a little crowded from that

[plain junco]

To "integrate sprint properly" and "accommodate traversal" are just code names for if they kept the maps the original sizes sprint wouldn't have been nessecary

[grave ether]

Nothing wrong with sprint or having a version with sprint.

[grim citrus]

Are you reading what you are typing?

[grave ether]

And it makes sense given there's some booster looking effects coming out of the back

[plain junco]

Inputs don't but mechanics definitely do. Doom didn't add sprint in 2016 on purpose because it was never a part of its identity

[tardy turtle]

Right, it just added Dash and Double Jumps.

Oh, and clamber

[grim citrus]

And stabilizer

[twin crag]

but them game wouldn't be able to handle sprint and would have made every map look wayyy too smol and you would break the flow of the map

[tardy turtle]

Oh, and Speed Boosts that give you a limited.... well it's not Sprint, that's for sure.

[plain junco]

2016 had only double jump no dash but I never said clamber was a bad thing, I'm strictly talking about sprint here

[tardy turtle]

DOOM 2016 absolutely had a dash feature

[grave ether]

Golden Eye, Titanfall, Apex, ect might disagree a little there lol

[plain junco]

No it didn't they added it in eternal

[grave ether]

We get it, you don't like sprint

[twin crag]

I think u're losing ur point here goodfeels

[tardy turtle]

No, you're talking about a game's Identity, and claiming that DOOM 2016 didn't add anything that broke from that. Which, it did add several things that were not a part of the original DOOM

[signal ivy]

Mr. Badfeels

[twin crag]

lol yea

[tardy turtle]

What are some mechanics that are uniquely identifying to those games?

[plain junco]

All of them were done alongside the gameplay design which while different from Doom 1993 kept the majority of mechanics, but intentionally keeping sprint out was one of the things iD literally mentioned in the redesign of what Doom 4 was originally planned to be

[tardy turtle]

Did you know the original DOOM had sprint?

[plain junco]

Walking doesn't count bro. You don't put your weapon down

[grave ether]

Golden eyes aiming is very well known. As is the way respawn made movement for the Titain fall series and apex. Maybe other games have jump, slide, and grapple, but those were done in a way that felt very unique to Titanfall to the point where it is notably known as that games mechanics

[twin crag]

nothing is strict here,
it isn't about ur convenience, what I don't like isn't identity u change it bad, what I like also isn't identity but u change it ok

[tardy turtle]

Temporarily moving faster does. Hold down Shift and there you go - Sprint.

[plain junco]

It was called Autorun and it was a toggle, not a 5 second long or however long duration

[twin crag]

same thing

[tardy turtle]

Ish? Can't speak much for Goldeneye (that was around the timeframe of console FPS's trying to find reasonable inputs), but with Titanfall and Apex I distinctly remember playing them and thinking it was like a more combat heavy version of Mirror's Edge, especially with the wall running

[plain junco]

Bruh you do not lose control of your weapon, it is not equivalent to a game like COD 3 which added sprint but in doing so you had to drop your weapon

[tardy turtle]

Ladies and Gents, we have glue

[grave ether]

And that together made it unique to Titanfall on its own

[tardy turtle]

Is it unique if I think of another game whilst doing it, though?

(Oh, also Prince of Persia, but I was never too big into that)

[grave ether]

Probably because some of the same devs made it. But the controls are different. Everything will remind you of something else. There is nothing solely unique to anything. It's how it's implemented that makes it its own thing

[plain junco]

Titanfall is called a movement shooter for a reason, the physics are designed to incentivse inertia and constant inputs

[tardy turtle]

I would say that how it's implemented makes it a flavor, but not necessarily a core component to the game's Identity, i.e. what makes us think of that game specifically. For Titanfall, that'd be the Titans and their dynamic to the Pilots

[grave ether]

Sure, you're allowed to think such

[twin crag]

I don't think no sprint really defined Halo before it was added, was it?

[plain junco]

It certainly didn't after the fact lmao.

[grim citrus]

It didn’t.

[twin crag]

no it doesn't seem like Sprint was core halo identity 🤷‍♂️

[tardy turtle]

Think of it this way: if someone says "Wall running", you'd get multiple different thoughts from people. Not Titanfall alone. If you say "Sprint", it's not going to evoke only Call of Duty.

But if you say "Titan mechs", that's going to point to Titanfall more than anything else. If you say "The Covenant" or even "Spartans", that's going to evoke Halo

[grim citrus]

Sprint was just a mechanic that was gaining traction in fps

[analog salmon]

343 made a modern Halo multiplayer with classic movement called Halo 2AMP and only a small fraction of the community have ever asked for it to be expanded into a full MP experience. I think it had a ton of potential to exist alongside a mainline halo game but most classic fans weren't interested in it

[grim citrus]

Sprint in games wasn’t really a new thing

[grave ether]

Sure

[plain junco]

That's literally why it shouldn't have been added, why does halo have to follow trends when they've been the ones setting the trend for the past decade?

[grim citrus]

Ninja Gaiden on the OG Xbox

[tardy turtle]

Because Halo wasn't adding anything new post Halo: CE

[smoky wave]

Halo fans when combat evolves

[plain junco]

And sprint only really became a thing with COD 3 and 4

[twin crag]

I think you should also read Recon's H2A argument not just reply to those who fit ur convenience

[grim citrus]

Halo was following trends?

[smoky wave]

Fun fact Halo 2 was going to get sprint but got cut like most stuff during that hell development

[twin crag]

I mean firefight seems like a result of Gears and other horde shooters gaining popularity

[plain junco]

Adding sprint was the first trend it followed, yes

[grave ether]

I'm speaking of all of the movement elements working together in a mesh that feels great to play but if you think something else is iconic about the game you can be right as well. For me it's that sweet sweet movement that feels great to play. But there can be visual iconic things as well

[grim citrus]

Halo has always been following trends… you forgot that halo was supposed to be an RTS? Health packs was removed

[twin crag]

Halo has followed trends before sprint

[grim citrus]

No.. removing health packs was

Duel wielding

[tardy turtle]

A very good point, yes. How the thing is added goes a long way. But my point is more that I do not think it a strong argument at all to hack off a single mechanic - Sprint - and say "That's not Halo. Never can be." Which isn't to say you specifically have said that

[grim citrus]

I can go on

[twin crag]

it is ok badfeels,

[smoky wave]

Hehe

[twin crag]

u want to go back to 2007 style Halo, that is fully ok, u are well within ur rights to have ur own opinions, but let's not twist arguments and facts for convenience

[plain junco]

Dual wielding was not a common thing until modern warfare bro, of which halo 2 and 3 already did

[magic night]

Ah. A sprint debate. Makes this place feel like the olden days.

[grim citrus]

laughs in goldeneye and perfect dark

[grave ether]

No, I fully agree with you there. The "sprint halo" argument I find boring and tiresome as it's been on repeat for years

[grim citrus]

You really don’t know your games man

And it shows

[smoky wave]

I thought we were done with the sprint debate

[twin crag]

man is just is so focused in proving how sprint is not Halo that he will ignore anything that doesn't fit his convenience lol

[magic night]

Sprint debates are a core part of the Halo identity. It just isn't Halo without a sprint debate.

[smoky wave]

That's true

[grim citrus]

Which game came out first? goldeneye or MW? @plain junco

[plain junco]

It really isn't a trend if like 2 games did it bro, not to mention dual wielding probably would have been done in CE if it was truly following those games

[twin crag]

should've have been a long while ago, but then we still have people who don't let it die in peace 🤷‍♂️

[grim citrus]

😂😂😂😂

[tardy turtle]

Tomb Raider

[magic night]

Max Payne as well

[twin crag]

oh hey tomb raider a blast from the past

same for max payne

god tier games

[grim citrus]

Tomb raider was 3rd person. I’m referring to 1st person

[twin crag]

dual wielding is dual wielding,

[tardy turtle]

3rd Person, yes, but I'd say it popularized the idea of dual wielding

Like, Laura with the akimbo pistols was just iconic

[grim citrus]

Well with those standards, sprint started with Mario 1

[twin crag]

nope

[tardy turtle]

Sprint is in so many games

[twin crag]

yes

[tardy turtle]

Like, it's just a universal standard, and keeping it out for the sake of nostalgia makes games such a slog

I still try to sprint in CE

[magic night]

It was learned very on that a button that makes you go even faster than normal is something players tend to enjoy having.

[smoky wave]

Halo 2 sprint

[twin crag]

so it turns out
bungo ruined halo
343 ruined halo
bungo bad
343 bad
halo bad

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[smoky wave]

So true

[plain junco]

Or you could just make them go fast all the time in the first place without dropping your weapons

[grim citrus]

Your argument was that MW started it… was that not your argument?

[tardy turtle]

Anywhos, this has been... something. But I'm off to D&D

[twin crag]

ima play some spiderman

[analog salmon]

its clearly a great Playstation conspiracy to kill halo. they obviously bribed bungo to leave microsoft with the ultimate goal of destroying the franchise

[twin crag]

interesting revelation

[smoky wave]

So that's why Destiny has sprint, to destroy Bungie

[analog salmon]

they probably paid bungo to add sprint to halo to kill the franchise

[twin crag]

they couldn't kill bungo themselves, so they came up with a very elaborate plan to do it

it all makes sense now :o

[analog salmon]

now they own bungo they can make a halo clone playstation exclusive

[grim citrus]

The franchise was hit hard because the indecisiveness of its fans

[smoky wave]

The ultimate halo killer

[grim citrus]

Not to me. It’s definitely a step backwards

[plain junco]

Wrong reply sorry

[twin crag]

he said Infinte good

problem solved 🎊

Halo is saved 😌

[smoky wave]

Alright we are done here, everything is good

[grim citrus]

Infinite is back to the OG days where the BR was the only effective non-power up weapon

[twin crag]

now Sony's evil plans failed
MUAHAHHA

[grim citrus]

And every other weapon is useless next to it

[tardy turtle]

Hold the phone I've got a reputation to live up to:

I DISAGREE

[twin crag]

with what

[tardy turtle]

Yes

[twin crag]

good

[tardy turtle]

😅

[twin crag]

aight time to be a super hero

spooderman here I come

[plain junco]

5 did do that one thing to sprint which made it slightly more bearable, getting shot would end it, and infinite's gameplay made some steps forward even further than that especially in regards to sprint, it's balanced much better because you can literally go the whole game without needing it

[twin crag]

i think everyone's gone bruv

[plain junco]

Looks like it

[twin crag]

u should also go and play/do something else
sprint argument was bad and u anyway lost it today as well

[plain junco]

Bad faith and dog-piling doesn't make you a winner, nor did you actually bring any tangible arguments to the table.

[ruby knoll]

Muh setting trends

The last trend halo set was matchmaking replacing server lists, arguably not the best trend in terms of player choice and giving pubs/studios more control

Wholesome online multiplayer paywall

[plain junco]

Are you going to forget the entire concept of making FPS on console actually playable with a good controller and things like aim assist and bullet magnetism?

[ruby knoll]

Last i checked, ce came before 2, and Microsoft made the controller

[plain junco]

Yes I'm talking about CE

[twin crag]

I actually did, you just ignored them when they didn't fit ur convenience

[ruby knoll]

...i know literacy is really really hard for halo fans but please attempt to read (or have someone else do it) what I wrote

I said last

[plain junco]

I responded to virtually everything you said my guy

[ruby knoll]

As in, the last trend halo actually set

(Not the best trend IMO!)

[twin crag]

nope, read again, the earliest being the one where I pointed you to recon's argument

[plain junco]

My mistake then, but no need for jabs like this

[ruby knoll]

Not to mention, matchmaking isn't even really part of the core gameplay loop, nor is input

It's more like, the infrastructure around it

[grim citrus]

You’re refusing to listen to the counter arguments

[plain junco]

That... wasn't your argument

[ruby knoll]

Also it's not a jab if it's a well known fact

[grim citrus]

Majority of your arguments was debunked

[twin crag]

well why not, if I copy pasted his statement as mind, would it become mine?

I do in fact agree with his argument anyway 🤷‍♂️

[grave ether]

Can this be dropped and move on?

[twin crag]

go take a break my guy, go to a park and think

[twin crag]

yea, my chores are done, im actually gonna go now

sorry for ping

[plain junco]

Hyperbole, your first argument was that things that 343 added to halo were never in halo when in fact, they always were in halo.

[grave ether]

Drop. It.

Before this escalates more

[plain junco]

Ok

[grim citrus]

If you would like to continue this discussion, you can DM or join my server.

[twin crag]

Interesting

[grim citrus]

Mods are something else in this server

[plain junco]

I have to leave for work at 2, but if you want shoot me a DM and I'll respond eventually.

[tall yew]

Who's your favorite spartan
Jerome
Locke
Chief
Caboose
Fred
Linda
Vale
Buck
Kelly
Sarah Palmer
Noble 6
Emile
Kat
Carter
Jorge
Jun

[coarse dagger]

You can leave these comments out of conversation in future, thanks

[tall yew]

Hello

[lime robin]

Where the heck am I

[bronze depot]

^

[twin crag]

That looks like a cool map :o

[twin crag]

Jerome 092 :D

[tall yew]

Ok

I like the noble team

Rip

[grave ether]

Buck, because Nathan Fillion

[lime robin]

I think I did something to my mouse and now I can't use armor abilities...

[grave ether]

Have you tried Ctrl+z?

[celest heron]

you mean equipment?

[lime robin]

Fixed, I just needed to restart LG Hub

[analog salmon]

if your mouse has onboard storage i would use that and then disable the software from starting with windows

[lime robin]

What are all these maps? They're awesome.,

[rugged quartz]

Linda

[lime robin]

And I just did two noscopes and ofc they didn't record

[grave ether]

I need to checkout fiesta

[zenith holly]

Do we know what's coming to season 4 besides infection?

[celest heron]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/community-collection-update

[coarse dagger]

Nothing about season 4 has been discussed or announced yet, as far as I'm aware

[plush jasper]

do we know when season 4 is coming?

[sullen kiln]

Season 4 launches on <t:1687284000:F> which is <t:1687284000:R>

[white birch]

Oh nice Im not gonna miss it, I leave on like, June 26 for my stuff

[zenith holly]

Just got the weekly challenge done.
But do we know if the new season or hopefully later in the settings reset bug will be fixed

[eternal lion]

Still awaiting for the VIP mode announced for Season 4 (might be for the narrative event).
But yeah we still have no communication on roadmap, planning on rotationnal playlist, drop pods, updates, and globally what's coming

[celest heron]

still almost two months away. will likely get more info when it's closer.

[eternal lion]

For season 4 yes. For the other things... not great at all

[celest heron]

they're usually bundled around each other. for the events, the next one starts on May 23.

[eternal lion]

we didn't got drop pod since august. Updates should be told 1 week before at least. And the article on what's coming in this season should be in advance

[coarse dagger]

We'll get more info on season 4 closer to the time, we're still 2 months out

[eternal lion]

Its not on s4 i'm talking about its s3

[coarse dagger]

This entire conversation has been about Season 4

[eternal lion]

no, it was not, I added for s3

[coarse dagger]

Nowhere in the conversation above did you mention season 3

[eternal lion]

"planning on rotationnal playlist, drop pods, updates, and globally what's coming"

pretty obvious

[coarse dagger]

Considering the entire conversation was about S4, no, it was not obvious

[ruby lake]

WHEN SEASON 4

[signal ivy]

#halo-discussion message

[ruby lake]

back to cryosleep i go

[ruby knoll]

@ruby lake

[crystal iron]

mcc update when

[celest heron]

[celest heron]

[eternal lion]

considering the category of the MCC has disappear from the Waypoint news...

[celest heron]

wouldn't be anything to add other than what rotational playlist would be coming.

[eternal lion]

We are waiting for Theater for Halo 4 (I think the only thing announced)

[analog salmon]

anyone leave camera shake on in infinite

i think its the one setting that if i forget to change im actually like "people seriously play like this"

even when im watching gameplay im like waaaaa

80fov is nothing compared to it

[ocean palm]

Hey guys wassup

[ocean palm]

yeah I turned mine off awhile ago

[celest heron]

first thing I turn off and then blur

[frosty condor]

So many Luke’s in one place :0

[bleak nymph]

Nothing feels less like Halo than having your reticle bounce around without any RS input. Save for very, very rare cases like SMG or H3 Sniper recoil.

Too many guns have recoil now, and camera shake is a sin.

[plain junco]

I must have missed this setting

[full warren]

I wish there is a mode that is just 12v12 but with BR and no tanks

its so OP in this game when a tank arrives because there is sometimes literally no weapons on the map to kill it, no skewer spawn

[crystal iron]

Speaking of that, are vehicles still being randomly dropped from pelicans?

[plain junco]

Usually what I do is hunt for a grapple or active camo

[full warren]

when people get the tank they just spam from the back in this game

because there is no way to kill them other than skewer long rang

so they just spam all game and not move

[plain junco]

Yeah they are

[crystal iron]

I'm a bit negative when it comes to that feature

[full warren]

you mean random tank just drops into enermy spawn and not owrs lol

[crystal iron]

Yeah, that

[plain junco]

Me too, ain't really a fan of it but I'll entertain it since BTB is usually chaotic anyway

I thought 2 spawn now for tanks no?

Like one on your side one on theirs

[stuck harbor]

Hey everyone

[stark moon]

Can someone point me to the direction of the latest Halo Military Clan Community discord server?

[sullen anvil]

dear halo mcc: god please stop matching me against literal gods

[narrow agate]

did you join the Citadel?

[crystal iron]

Bro the only people playing MCC are the older fans with tons of experience lol

[sullen anvil]

I am legit on my worst losing streak of all time

[crystal iron]

Take a break

[sullen anvil]

I have like 3 more games to go

finishing up killer workout then uninstalling because I can’t take it anymore

[crystal iron]

master chief i don't feel so good

[sullen anvil]

I finally win one game then I’m immediately punished with a team full of fresh installs. The final score was 7-50

I’m so done with this game

Why am I being punished for just playing the game

[sullen anvil]

Yeah I just uninstalled MCC and Infinite on the spot. I absolutely can’t take it anymore, there is literally no place for me in Halo at all unless I’m super sweaty and competitive

even custom games kinda suck. No one uses VC anymore and no one hosts any good ones on Infinite anymore

I can take going up against of couple big bad veterans and good players- but when it’s constantly back to back and day after day of just losing, I seriously give up. It’s not fun losing over and over again even if I’m just a social player who doesn’t care anymore

someone please give advice on how me, a social player, can enjoy halo

[signal ivy]

well first you have to install them

that's step 1

[sullen anvil]

I’m definitely going on a break until Season 4 drops

[tepid latch]

I think if Custom games could have open VC would be a big help

like, not tied to just teams

the way its a more social option, but if its anything FFA there's literally no way to talk to anyone in the game

wonder if thats something being looked into, would be awesome for them to address something like that

[sullen anvil]

Like I said tho, customs are basically a shell of their former selves. No one ever talks in the lobbies anymore and I would just be talking to myself at that point

[glacial tartan]

If you want to play MCC again add me, same GT as named here. We can have fun duoing 🙂

[clear drift]

anyone knows why halo infinite doesnt have fp legs on high fovs
and it will be added later?
mcc have it

[crystal iron]

Anyone wanna play halo 3 ultimate firefight?

[noble urchin]

im thinkin its cuz making the characters body look normal in fp is too hard or something

[outer sand]

If you need something a little more casual friendly, or easier, is recommend bot boot camp. It's a great place to start mastering mechanics, and soon you'll be craving harder competition

[sullen anvil]

I got pretty burnt out on Bootcamp ngl, and it’s not the same experience. Even if I were to get insanely good, I would start getting punished with bad teammates, so I would have to carry every game. Which would suck

[noble urchin]

im not a sweat so i play big team battle exclusively

[sullen anvil]

Idk infinite is so dry on replayability. It’s a nonstop sweat-fest too. I’m kinda stuck in Halo 3 because I hate H4/R abilities and gimmicks, I hate the combos in H2, and I don’t like CE’s gameplay

[noble urchin]

i grew up with the older games but i hate playing their MP nowadays. feels ancient

[sullen anvil]

Both Infinite and H3 are tied for me. I love their gameplay and I’m pretty new to halo. I started only playing these games in like 2019

but after all of those agonizing matches I went through on MCC, I was like in the deepest layer of he(double hockey sticks because discord profanity filter) type of agonizing, it really got me thinking of me as a social player should even be playing Halo

And seeing how focused and how much 343 is incentivizing competitive play, is there even a place for me anymore

[noble urchin]

honestly i think its just the way games are now. people are incredibly competitive ever since fortnite blew up and now its hard to play most MP games without getting dookied on

[crystal iron]

@sullen anvil ODST Firefight with friends? It’s pretty much H3 PvE

[sullen anvil]

I prefer PvP

Firefight can be fun but it’s not what I prefer

[crystal iron]

Well either open yourself up to other games more or stick to halo 3

That’s all I can say

Or maybe find a new game entirely

[sullen anvil]

I’m waiting for another steam sale. I know they do a couple big ones leading up and during summer

I would play Minecraft more but I don’t like playing solo and worlds with friends fizzle out in a matter of days or weeks

I would open myself up to mapping for halo infinite but forge and it’s many bugs keep screwing me over

I’ve lost so many maps because of its stupid file and saving issues

[plain junco]

Yeah the bugs are really problematic. Crashes several times too, and I think the script brains are still a bit bugged

[wide trout]

They do one major one every season, beyond that it’s pure chance if something goes on sale at any given moment

[crystal iron]

@sullen anvil are you only into adventure and fps games?

[plain junco]

Download the steam app and put it on your wishlist, you'll get a notification when it goes on sale, you probably already knew that tho

[crystal iron]

I would suggest that maybe fighting games might interest you

[sullen anvil]

I do wanna try something else than a fps for a little bit

[plain junco]

Do you happen to be into turn based strategy games

[crystal iron]

I have some recommendations

[crystal iron]

Fighting games honestly might be a good alternative, they’re mostly easy to get into yet hard to master

And if you decide to get serious over casual, there’s always guides and events you can look up

[grave ether]

There's always Minecraft

[crystal iron]

Meh

Minecraft is pretty lame

[grave ether]

If you don't like creativity

[hidden cradle]

Minecraft is good. Do like what it does offer for it's gameplay.

[crystal iron]

What kind of a snarky comment is that lol

Of course I like creativity, it's just that I've spent years playing minecraft and at this point I think it's stale.

nooooo

[tepid latch]

damn, that error's looking pretty fatal

[frosty condor]

Just know every crash is sent to the devs for research

[river minnow]

isn't that only if you send your optional data

[stoic glacier]

Ayo when will forge be fixed?

[atomic venture]

Never lol

[low blaze]

which forge

[sand sable]

does anyone know how to play coop mcc me and a friend keeps trying to play halo ce and we keep disconnecting from the first mission. he keeps freezing and having to alt f4 but has no issues playing solo

[smoky oasis]

I've never had that issue, sorry.

[inland minnow]

you might find help in #1075989764026675210

[patent void]

Should i get bronze packs in Halo 5 to get faster and better things like armor and weapons or should i go straight to silver packs?

[inland minnow]

do bronze packs until you start getting partial refunds (i think it was about 200 credits last time i checked), then do the same for silver

[full warren]

seriously why, even put me into a auto lost game

Had to quit that game anyway because the second I joined 3 people left on my team and now I am forced to also quit

[patent void]

Thanks

[patent void]

Should i also sell, weapons and vehicles from warzone to get more points to spend? I think i still have to have some so they don't give me that in packs...

[inland minnow]

i tend to sell everything i know i wont use, unless its a higher rarity and i dont have the certification for it (which shows as either a blue or grey ribbon on the card) then i'll usually keep a few back. i always sell the random cards

also, please make sure to disable the reply ping for users with the No Pings role! thanks

[patent void]

Thank you very much

[crystal iron]

Help

[crystal iron]

You need to tell what is going on if you want someone to help you. Remember that in future

[harsh karma]

Uuu 🤕

[ruby knoll]

mimimimimimimimi

[crystal iron]

?

[stray seal]

anyone else unable to get into btb games?

[lapis thistle]

Halo Infinite?

[stray seal]

yeah

[lapis thistle]

Hmm I havent been on recently ill go check it out real quick

[stray seal]

Ill try again. Just kept instantly disconnecting me.

Managed to get in after restarting my game. Weird

[lime robin]

?

[ruby knoll]

?

[lime robin]

Seriously though, what did you mean? 🙂

[river minnow]

seedge

[wide trout]

hjonk shooshooshoo

[ruby knoll]

^

[ruby knoll]

Dinph

[split rover]

343 owes me 850 xp, which was supposed to be the second half of my double xp boost today

[unborn basin]

Pretty nice how infinite's main menu makes your cpu and gpu utilization spike by ~90%+. Cool having real time rendering on a main menu. Love it

[ruby knoll]

You mean uncapped rendering

[patent void]

I forgot bronze packs didn't have a permanent drop...

[analog salmon]

it is actually insane hearing my GPU fan ramp up when the game has ended.

[rugged quartz]

Sometimes

[analog salmon]

I've had games increase CPU utilisation in menus, but never GPU. It's bizarre.

and this is with a capped FPS that's the same in game as in menu. The menu is somehow just hammering the GPU

[crystal iron]

Halo infinite: "you paid for the whole GPU so I'm gonna use the whole GPU"

[analog salmon]

if you play the game a lot its probably a decent amount of energy and thus money being wasted

[eternal lion]

Its called deoptimization 😉 a specialty of some games now and then ^^

Still waiting for water optimization for Infinite for PC ...

[patent void]

Big F

Might go to silver straight

[plain junco]

I put my fans up to 100% manually whenever I play infinite. The temperature spikes are bad enough in the game let alone however much it's actually utilizing

[lime robin]

You're on a laptop?

[analog salmon]

they could just add an FPS cap for the menu. MCC has a hidden FPS cap of 60 you can disable with a launch parameter

idk why not just have a option in the settings "30/60/uncapped" for both MCC and Infinite

then i would just cap menu to 30 to save energy if they cant be bothered to optimise the menu

[full warren]

is the game down? been trying to play then it says matchmaking encountered networking difficulties

ok yes it is, just checked downdetector and a ton of reports saying its down

[pale flare]

Game isn't working for me. I was able to play one game of BTB but ever since I get disconnected immediately after searching for a game.

[plain junco]

No desktop. I use precision x1 for the manual changes to gpu fan speed

[normal chasm]

just wanted to ask if Halo 2 MCC coop campaign is okay to play

reach is fine

but CEA is completely broken so we had to skip it. Tryna introduce a friend to halo so I hope Halo 2 works well

[coarse dagger]

https://fxtwitter.com/Halo/status/1650583707953053696

[glacial tartan]

Halo MCC matchmaking broken, same for infinite?

[pale flare]

yup

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1650584231415005184?t=2UyewixB8kFrG4PU4O-uEQ&s=19

Halo Support (@HaloSupport)

The team is currently investigating reports of errors impacting #Halo matchmaking. Stay tuned as we'll share updates on this outage here.

Twitter · Apr 24, 2023, 7:35 PM

[signal ivy]

I want to post a clip but my GT in the video is different than my current GT since I changed it. I dunno what to do

[crystal iron]

change gamer tag back to old one

🐀

[shadow turret]

Can this be done with a YouTube vid for the clip submission?

Since I have a clip that I could do, but its on YouTube

[coarse dagger]

What does it say on the form?

(I have no idea, haven't looked at it)

[signal ivy]

onedrive, google drive or dropbox

oh it says etc

[shadow turret]

Yea

[signal ivy]

so yeah YT link is fine probably

[shadow turret]

Ight, I'm gonna submit my Remote Detonation that I needed help to figure out

[full warren]

Where can I find gorups to play BTB with

or even just places to find good players who woudl like to play team slayer and quick play?

[celest heron]

lfg channels

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[lime robin]

Hold my beer

[earnest thunder]

Are the servers back up yet?

[coarse dagger]

#halo-support-news

[earnest thunder]

Thanks!

[devout kite]

Is it me or people aren’t using the bandit in btb because it’s a good sidekick replacement

[celest heron]

probly using the br instead

[ocean palm]

wassup

[devout kite]

Like I normally do a br and sidekick but I found that the bandit is a good replacement for the sidekick if you have a br

[celest heron]

I don't like the bandit for up close so I'll stick with the br, sidekick.

[rugged quartz]

I've had lots of success with the bandit

[outer sand]

I'm terrible with the bandit
It's a neat gun, I'm just not good with it yet

[serene furnace]

Landing headshots with the Bandit is a bit tricky

[brave carbon]

any plan to get the community sense back in halo? proximity chat, lobbies, party up, etc.

that is what i miss most

[crystal iron]

I love halo

I played all games on legendary

[ruby knoll]

I remember when gamers were able to put a modicum of effort into forming communities instead of needing gimmicks to do it for them

Forced matchmaking was a mistake

What's stopping people from using Xbox lfg, cgb, etc

[hushed plinth]

Im trying to create a custom game on MCC. Does anyone know how to set ammo to infinite on the game browser?

[glass spade]

I just beat halo infinite

[glass spade]

It was top tier. Amazing work 343. You have made me happy

[glass spade]

Not sure

[short heart]

did you just reply to yourself

[white birch]

Anyone know if theres a limit to how many clips you can put in? Cause if its just one Im gonna be sad. I got so many good ones...

[grave ether]

The way it's worded makes me think you can submit multiple. It says to send in your clips then the disclaimer mentions "by submitting a clip via this form". But I don't see a limit on clips per user

Just remember it's supposed to be from this season

[white birch]

I have five from the last three weeks alone.

I dunno what it is about this season but Ive been having some pretty awesome plays.

...wait when did the season start again?

Cause that might just mean I only have one.

[outer sand]

Mid March

[white birch]

Welp, guess its only the one from 22 days ago then.

[olive fox]

Does anyone here know if I can set the minimum required number of players in a Halo Reach custom browser game to below 2?

[celest heron]

two is the lowest

[olive fox]

That sucks

Cuz I’d like to get traits before other people join

[olive fox]

Thanks

[smoky stone]

Are we ever going to get a Ranked Team Slayer playlist?

[white birch]

Alright theres my clip. Lets see what happens.
One in like a billion chance yeah?

[left snow]

Probably not. Personally I've made peace with it. Pretty much all the objective games are Slayer with a side quest. The only difficult one is CTF - which pretty much falls apart if you don't have some genuine team co-ordination.

[celest heron]

where is it

[smoky stone]

I just dont understand the other ranked playlists outside of Arena, Team Slayer has got to be one of the most populated playlists, it's like they don't want to make a ranked version and alienate the unranked folks. Just doesn't make any sense to me.

[wide trout]

Arena has probably the least amount of random variables

Ranked is generally a measure purely of skill and nothing else, hence why there are BR starts and things like that

all about good aim, movement tech, and map knowledge

[smoky stone]

I get all that, still doesn't explain why Team Slayer doesn't have Ranked. It's a staple Halo game mode.

[white birch]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-yZSVz3ZAbAKC1dvk7FiAdJJmG2PYOhc/view?usp=share_link

The actual one I sent to them has the editor previlage so they can copy it as they need but this is the same link

[arctic granite]

Does anyone have any tips for the mass driver mission on legendary for reach

I can’t kill these ghosts fast enough a

[wide trout]

there’s hidden weapon caches around certain areas

[celest heron]

nice

[wide trout]

beyond that having good aim with the DMR and making liberal use of the noob combo is going to be your best strat

[crystal iron]

Do you mean phantoms?

[arctic granite]

Oops yeah I meant phantoms and banshees

The last part where you have to use the big cannon

So the pillar of autumn can launch

[crystal iron]

Just wait it out until Keyes tells you to shoot it

You don’t have to get in the gun

[arctic granite]

Oh I didn’t realize that 😑

[crystal iron]

Yeah it’s a handy tip

Something like “now lieutenant” is what you’re waiting for

[left snow]

It would be fascinating to see a breakdown of game mode MMRs.

I imagine most people would have similar MMR for Slayer, Oddball, KOTH, and Strongholds. They play very similarly.

But I wouldn't be surprised if solo players struggle with CTF. It's a different beast.

The only other benefit of a Slayer only playlist is that you can carry team mate's that are struggling.

And 3v4 isn't necessarily a list cause.

[crystal iron]

Anyone dealing with the UE4 Fatal error bug? I reinstalled the game and everything but it still gives me the error.

[wide trout]

when does it occur?

[smoky stone]

Are you talking about Ranked Arena breakdown?

[crystal iron]

As soon as I boot up MCC

[wide trout]

try making sure your graphics drivers are updated

and that you are on the latest version of windows 10/11

[crystal iron]

Just updated them and updated windows 10 not too long ago.

Deleted the 2 bik files but that didn't do anything either

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[wide trout]

i recommend official support

[crystal iron]

Not finding what I'm looking for

[wide trout]

submit a ticket?

[crystal iron]

If it crashes on the log in screen, launch the mod version then sign in

It pops up as soon as the menu shows

[left snow]

In Ranked you have separate MMRs for each game mode - which are then averaged and then "chased" by your CSR. Or at least that's how it worked in Halo 5.

I was just thinking that because the non-CTF modes are essentially just variants of Team Slayer - your MMR's in those should be very similar. And thus supporting my initial premise that most objective games are really just Slayer anyway (you kill the other team and then amuse yourself with the objective while they wait to respawn).

And it would be interesting to compare that to CTF. Which requires a whole new level of team co-ordination and tactics. Especially as a solo player trying to co-ordinate a random team without mics.

[low blaze]

I'm reading fall of reach and I've noticed every F is missing in the decrypted files

[empty rapids]

uhggg i so wish for better quickplay mmr

it's so annoying getting a whole team that thinks oddball is slayer and you're the only one going after the ball carrier

[crystal iron]

this crosshair looks off centre

AHH IT IS

[swift scaffold]

can u recommend me good hoalo infinte twitch streamers pls.. i need to kill my time watching something in the background

did i kill the chat lmao?

[tepid latch]

no lol, its just not active all the time. sorry i dont have any suggestions either 😔

[coarse dagger]

Check out some of the Grassroots partners
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/hcs-grassroots

Alyek, Monza, Oath and Ubernick would be my top choices

[zinc glen]

I'm so bored

[outer sand]

Play Halo

Or read a book

[rapid cloak]

They better drop some gas in the shop today

[crystal iron]

Play some video games. Eventually you can start rebuilding halo ring

[full warren]

I just do not understand this match making, someone on my team quit in team slayer after 2 mins and the game did not give us another player and we lost because the bot went 1/12

seriosuly how can I be put into a game that is 25 kills into a slayer but the game wont give us another player when there has been like 5 kills in the game total also a slayer

[full warren]

just matched with a duo... the guy did 55 damage that game....... there need to be a tutorial before you can join multiplayer. he did not even shoot his gun, and this is his 6th multiplyer game...

How, does he not know how to shoot his gun

Combined they did 450 damage in the whole game, I am not even mad at them, how is the game allowing them to play vs onyx and high diamonds without telling them how to shoot their gun

[granite wing]

I just came back after a long year + break and yeah my experience is kinda the same haha

Like.... quick match with randoms is very much not worth playing

I will just stick to BTB or Swat

Feels like the vast majority of the playerbase is exceptionally bad, which is fine but man does it make playing solo in 4v4 very not fun

[full warren]

It’s not the player base is bad, it’s if you are good it forces you to play with bad players. Instead of have some kind range where say you are average it will bring a lobby of average players. It literally put me vs players with 5 games total played, who are negative 10 kda that basicly means the match making system does not care at all. It literally just sees you as a number and averages out the teams based on it no matter how bad the team mate is. People with less than 10 games played should not match with players who are onyx or high Diamond. Unless they are a Smurf or returning player but a guy who does not know how to shoot his gun is not a returning player. They guy spent the game walking around looking directly up and down as if they don’t know how to even use the controller stick

[devout kite]

For those that are wondering the weekly challenge is kill 20 enemies with explosives

[fallow crow]

I swear I carry every game I play, its so frustrating, player base is awful

[left sail]

One of the many downside to Free to play games most players have never play Halo let alone a fps.

[dusk thunder]

I’m willing to bet good money the rocket spawn has been adjusted in Fiesta. I e been playing for a while today and now that I need them for a challenge I can’t seem to get one. Curious.

I mean, it’s been a few hours and not one

[wide trout]

grenades, rockets, hydra, tank…?

i assume these all count?

[shadow turret]

I think all of those but the tank would count, bc I feel like the tank would make it too easy

[wide trout]

well the tank shell is high explosive

assuming you aren’t direct-hitting with the tank i think it should count…?

[shadow turret]

It is, but I've seen ppl go on rampages in a tank in like 5 minutes, so I feel like it wouldn't count, but I'd have to confirm that

[devout kite]

I think they do as long as they do explosive damage

[signal ivy]

what about fusion coils

[wide trout]

i doubt the hardlight one would count

but i’m sure the shock and explosive ones do

[signal ivy]

why would the shock count and not the hardlight

[wide trout]

because the shock one actually explodes

i’m not sure the hardlight one does, does it?

on that note, does the wraith count?

[devout kite]

I think the shock counts but not the hardlight I

[signal ivy]

they all explode

[wide trout]

the hardlight one just sends a bunch of heatwave rays all over the place

a bunch of them are concentrated in the exact area it hits you

[signal ivy]

because it explodes

[full warren]

but I am not even blaming the players, I am saying most games have a "Tutorial" like you have to complete 5 bot games or play in a start queue with newer players for the first 50 games before you get put in the wider queue.

This helps new players have a good experience playing vs players of their own level

obviously there will be detection system if someone is killing 25 in a slayer you know they are smurfing and should be taken out of the beginner queue, its pretty common sense to let new players learn the game before throwing them in with people whos played halo for 20 years

[magic night]

I assume that it just might come down to not having a very large pool of players at both their and your skill level and in your region to find a match quickly enough at that particular time. If there was, then you most likely would not have matched with them.

[full warren]

I saw some stats I am UK, 10% of the player base is actually UK so not that small and we have the whole of the europe, there must be some players at 4pm

And the games before and after it did not have the same players, if it really is a player shortage then I would see the same people.

[limber fox]

Will they ever fix the settings bug? They keep resetting for like 2 months now

[devout kite]

They’re still investigating it

My guess is it’ll get fix next month drop pod

Because next month is the second part of the narrative event

[indigo lichen]

got a question for you guys trying to mess around and Forge but all the hints for like what buttons to hit for what just say a or AAA or aaaaa anyone know a fix?

[smoky oasis]

I am not sure what you mean to be honest.

[rugged quartz]

We haven’t had a drop pod since I think last summer…?

[smoky oasis]

Yeah, they just kind of stopped doing those.

[crystal iron]

He probably just meant update

[devout kite]

I always thought we get monthly drop pods to fix some issues I guess 343 stop doing them

[rugged quartz]

They announced they were going to do drop pods moving forward with monthly goal. Did two spaced out and haven’t done any since. One drop pod had cross core visors. I forgot if the other one had some more cross core stuff or if it was the same.

[devout kite]

The only drop pod was the cross core visors and that about it

[smoky oasis]

Didn't even announce they were going to stop doing them iirc

[west lake]

So I asked this in general already but I’m looking for a definitive answer before I spend my time in it can you still earn the watchdog coating right now even though halo infinite launched?

[devout kite]

That’s the thing idk if 343 stop doing them or they switch to if something is almost done release it then finish it

[smoky oasis]

Not definitive but I'm 95% sure you can. The same question was asked before, Ultimo, and I believe it was a yes.

[west lake]

Ok sweet thanks!

[left snow]

It depends how good you actually are. That player base is spread over the whole day / week. And if you are mid to high Onyx you probably represent as little as 2-3% of that population. So finding matching opponents could be very difficult. Leaving the MM to do it's best to match the teams.

[smoky oasis]

I can't really say communication has been great if I am honest.

[crystal iron]

drop pods do what they do best, crash and burn

[young glen]

We could've used some drop pods after season 3's launch.

[plain junco]

what are drop pods

[smoky oasis]

They were supposed to be mini-updates meant to bring quality of life improvements and fixes in between seasonal launches.

There were two of them last year, never seen one or heard about one since.

[crystal iron]

basically a fancy word for normal updates every other game gets

[smoky oasis]

Basically. Just packed in a fun Halo-themed box. I liked it.

[devout kite]

So basically a halo fun box lol

[crystal iron]

halo fix box

[plain junco]

guess that makes sense why there hasn't been any 💀

[sterile meadow]

@crystal iron not covenant drop pods, at least Halo 4 ones are re usable

[crystal iron]

the ultimate weapon would be a drop pod filled with rats with plasma grenades strapped to them

[sterile meadow]

Yeah 100% for sure, I mean what else should be used right lol

[wide trout]

Grenades do not count for explosive kills

Not frags at least

[young glen]

That's odd.

[wide trout]

Yup, just tested it again

[dusk thunder]

That’s weird, frag kills worked for me

[crystal iron]

lmao

some dude hosting a custom games lobby on halo 3 hid a teleporter somewhere on the map to put him outside the map so the zombies couldn't get to him, so when me and this other guy found out where it was to get to him, he banned us both

[brave carbon]

do people actually like escalation slayer?

at the minimum it needs to leave qp and be its own playlist or in community collection

[full warren]

I am not high onyx tho but I think my mmr is kinda high since after 5 placement games they put me into D3 already. and I lose 4 csr when I lose and gain 12 when I win so the game obviously think I am higher but I dont play ranked

but at this point I might aswell be because team slayer is basicly a high diamond lobby

[celest heron]

completely forgot about drop pods

[noble urchin]

what weapon is the ultimate weekly coating for?

[celest heron]

rocket launcher

[noble urchin]

oh nice

[tepid latch]

I think drop pods just got demoted to being updates again lol, there was nothing wrong with just calling them updates and hotfixes

[left snow]

You are probably high enough though. Generally you will "place" somewhere between half and a whole division (300 points) below your MMR (depending on your sigma value). So if you've placed D3 you are somewhere between O1 and O3. If you are closer to O3 (which you probably are given the +12 vs -4) then you are going to be a headache for the matchmaker.

If it's any consolation - the games where you have to carry are not much fun for us plebs either - where our only contribution is limited to "dying less". So we all share your pain.

[left snow]

I really enjoy it. I don't have a problem with it in Quick Play - but can also see it fitting in Fiesta.

[wet violet]

Hey y'all. Amy suggestions how to leave feedback for 343 on maps?

Infinite's Team Slayer was fantastic before the new maps came to dominate it. Classic maps like Launch Site, Behemoth, and Streets aren't even on the game list anymore. Instead, we're bludgeoned over the head with three instances of Cliffhanger (two of which are identical). Why would anyone think we should have maps multiple times in the list when we're lacking these favorites?

[coarse dagger]

Create a new post in #1076337363770417172 and add the appropriate tag

[ruby knoll]

The halo cycle continues to accelerate i see

I remember people hating on LS and Behemoth for literally months

I personally like em tho

[tepid latch]

I just wanna see how the changes to Behemoth play like, I saw they changed some geometry on the map to create better cover at the bases, id love to be able to play it, its weird that its gone from a lot of map pools

[wide trout]

I still hate behemoth

Dont care much about LS tho

Can understand the hate at least

[sullen anvil]

Actually fighting the urge to hop back on MCC rn but I know I should really be taking a break

H3 matchmaking has started to become addicting but so frustrating at the same time oh no

[crystal iron]

blind skull just activated itself mid game

[summer shard]

why does it take so long to queue in btb?

do you guys have the same problem?

i wasted my exp multiplier 😔

didnt get a match in 60 minutes

[sullen anvil]

What region do you play in? @summer shard

[summer shard]

how do i check?

[sullen anvil]

Well, where do you live in the world??

Queue usually depends on population, hidden mmr/mmr, skill rating or ranking or whatever it’s called, probably missing a couple other things too

[summer shard]

south east asia

indonesia to be exact

[sullen anvil]

I’ve heard that population around those areas tend to be pretty low

lots of players in Australia and just around that part of the world in general struggle to find servers because of the things I listed above

[lime robin]

Yep, Halo isn't very popular in Asia or Oceania unfortunately

[sullen anvil]

Best bet would just to search on expanded and party up with people who live in more populated areas. The big downside being is the ping

[summer shard]

aw man

[sullen anvil]

Yeah it’s pretty unfortunate

[summer shard]

but it was very consistent yesterday, i was getting a lot of btb matches

[sullen anvil]

You miightt have an easier time searching for 4v4?? Quick Play might be the best option but idk anything about playlist population

Depends on the day and the hour too

though Infinite was having some matchmaking issues recently

[summer shard]

well its not as slow as btb but its still slow :(

fiesta and the new mode are fast though idk why

[sullen anvil]

Fiesta is pretty fast paced

[tepid latch]

😭 more australians need to play this damn game

[sullen anvil]

they gotta have a reason to play

[tepid latch]

for fun 🫡

[ivory glacier]

These melee lunges are insane. Flying into me from across the room

[summer shard]

oh yeah

do you guys think that the locus set is worth 1100 credits?

[signal ivy]

if you like it, sure

worth is only something you can determine

[summer shard]

i only liked the helmet 😔

not a fan of the others

[granite wing]

I like the color but im not paying 10 dollars for a color that doesnt work on other cores

[summer shard]

but the fact that its made for the rakshasa is just awful

would love to use it on the chimera

will they even add cross core ?

[plain junco]

no lol

[granite wing]

They said they would but at this rate there wont be anyone playing when they do

[summer shard]

true, the player count is already so low

[granite wing]

I've been back for maybe 4ish days, the Bandit starts in BTB made me enjoy the game a lot more but there is still a huge lack of content and 4v4 is basically unplayable with how I assume Skill based matchmaking works. Game gives you 3 glue eaters vs 4 average players and expects you to carry them.

Gameplay is still very fun though

[crystal iron]

Seconded, this region is dead outside of noobs in quick play

[distant mesa]

Has anyone here been suspended from Xbox for downloading steam workshop mods or file shared maps? I recently had mine suspended but all i've been doing is playing halo custom games with my friends and cursed halo 3, and halo wars 2, I don't touch matchmaking or any other online features. Are file shared maps not safe anymore? Just want to talk to some humans about it and not automated emails. Been trying to get this resolved today and need to talk about it because it's very stressful losing my childhood account with very vague reasons given for the suspension.

[tepid latch]

Could it be that you're playing with the EAC turned on still?

[livid fable]

this week's reward is purple reign weapon coating.

WHICH WEAPON?????

[coarse dagger]

Spnkr I believe

[livid fable]

does it say anywhere?\

[coarse dagger]

No idea, just going on what some other folk has said

[crystal iron]

Go to spnkr coatings, find purple one and it will tell you if it’s reward this week or not

[livid fable]

You're joking me.

[crystal iron]

No

[livid fable]

That'd be hillarious if it wasn't so terrible

[crystal iron]

Seriously there will be information if it’s reward this week

[livid fable]

seriously it should be in the reward screen

[crystal iron]

I always check this way if I don’t know for which item coating is

[crystal iron]

I agree. It should be in reward screen

[livid fable]

you go to the customization screen, and you go through each appropriate type item's skins to see which one it is?

[crystal iron]

Yes

[livid fable]

i mean i appreciate your hard work but that's nuts

might be less nuts if customization screens were more cooperative

but it'd still be pretty nuts

[crystal iron]

That’s how trying to find out for which item coating is looks like

It’s stupid but that’s how it works

[livid fable]

who thought that was a good idea

[crystal iron]

UI designers at 343

[analog salmon]

mfw checking out the weekly reward 😄
after checking the capstone challenge 😑

[granite wing]

To be fair it shows it on the main menu in that little "Whats new MOTD" box too

shows the picture of the rocket launcher

Though.... it should still be better I agree. Sadly a lot of things should be

[tepid latch]

I think the fact that if you click on the capstone it just shows the coating instead of a picture of the weapon with the coating on it is the issue, there's no point in putting the coating up there because it doesnt tell you what weapon or what it will look like on the weapon aside from what colours would appear on it

you'd think something like this would be an obvious issue to the UI/UX designers, but then again, you could probably say that about most of Infinites UI

it has so many shortcomings

[granite wing]

Seems to be a reoccurring issue with video games lately

[tepid latch]

laughing out load everytime i see a damn netflix or hulu ui designer get hired for a video game and make the exact same ui

exactly what happened with CoD

it literally looks like a streaming service

[granite wing]

I know Desync was a thing on launch but.... do the servers just not work sometimes still

[tepid latch]

Server Issues are still and always will be a thing. generally HaloSupport will post about outages and other such issues, but sometimes you might just have some games that have bad connection issues

[crystal iron]

https://twitter.com/Unyshek/status/1651019293201694721

John Junyszek (@Unyshek)

@Tylenul The team is taking a look - thanks for the heads up. Appreciate all the info you were able to provide.

Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 12:24 AM

yay its finally being looked into

[granite wing]

like 99% of BTB CTF matches still end in 0 -0 ties or 1 - 0

[analog salmon]

depends on the map. CTF Oasis seems to quite often have games end due to score limit reached.

[shadow turret]

The flags seem closer on Oasis too, but definitely I feel like the games are either tied or a win/loss by 1 point

[granite wing]

Well it helps that Oasis is what every BTB map should be

its the best designed and most halo feeling map

Every other BTB map feels like playing Tower Defense

[keen scaffold]

Breaker's the only actually terrible BTB map IMO

Massive 3 lane map with sightlines that make it sniper heaven. The only avenue for vehicles is a risky jump that makes you a sitting duck for shock weapons

The other one is a tight tunnel that turns it into a killbox if you don't make it through

[shadow turret]

Breaker is also (I'm pretty sure) the only map without vehicle drops

Only BTB map ofc, the arena maps don't have vehicles

[livid moth]

I hate stockpile so much

[keen scaffold]

Well, there was Behemoth, which is like a mini-BTB map, really.

Even though it's only in Fiesta at the moment.

[full warren]

Most BTB maps sucks lol its all Sniper heaven

[shadow turret]

Right, I always forget about Behemoth, even tho I love that map lol

[keen scaffold]

That's just the consequence of BTB. You run the risk of precision-dorks no matter where, if its open enough.
Breaker in particular doesn't have a relaible way to counter snipers like the other ones unless you got a specific route, and even then it's usually crowded.

[shadow turret]

Fragmentation isn't too bad for that kinda stuff

[keen scaffold]

Right. There's enough foliage and breaks in the paths to make it bearable to run through.

[shadow turret]

Yea, there's the middle rock face, and a hecc ton of trees

[granite wing]

I'd say Arid is a garbage map too

I think thats the name of it

[shadow turret]

I dunno the names of the forge maps, if its one of those

[granite wing]

Its the BTB map with the gimick of pushing people into the lava beam

[shadow turret]

Breaker

[granite wing]

oh

Yeah its awful, worst map in the game

[keen scaffold]

Arid is a canvas map. You need to build stuff on it first.

[shadow turret]

I don't really like it, used to quite a bit, but not as much now

[keen scaffold]

With season 3's changes, and Oasis, it's obvious more than ever that it was built for mini battle-royale

It just doesn't work as a BTB map.

I'm not saying bring Last Spartan Standing back, but I'd sooner welcome a BTB community playlist of some kind and shunt Breaker to social modes or something.

[granite wing]

I had 619 games played in the first month and to be honest I cant remember any of the maps names basically.

I dislike most of them sadly.

[shadow turret]

I know pretty much all the current map names of 343's maps

dunno the Forge ones that well

[granite wing]

I dont like Chasm - Bazaar -Argyle - Deadlock - Fragmentation - Live fire. I do like HIgh Power - Recharge - Aquarius. - Havent played Cliffhanger or detachment really / enough to have an opinion. Launch site hardly counts as a map and Oasis is my favorite map.

The forge maps I have played that are in matchmaking have been better than 343 maps

[shadow turret]

I'm almost opposite on a lot of those, I like Bazaar best in bots, but its not bad, Live Fire isn't bad, same with Aquarius, I really like Highpower, Fragmentation isn't too bad, and Chasm I'm back and forth on, and I'm not a huge fan of the other ones

[granite wing]

I think Fragmentation might be my 2nd least favorite

Played a lot in the beta and on launch - could be burn out

but it often feels like tower defense

[shadow turret]

It's not bad with vehicles imo, but of foot its not great

[woeful tendon]

Did they really removed Team Double mode in Halo Infinite? Maybe it's just me, but I played that mode alot cause I liked the whole cooperative nature. So when I tried to do that again today, I noticed it wasn't there anymore. It was there during the last challenges though.

[granite wing]

Is it not? I swore I saw it in the list yesterday

[shadow turret]

May have changed overnight, Pretty sure it was there yesterday too

[magic night]

Team Doubles has been a rotational playlist for a while now

Pretty sure since September

[coarse dagger]

^ correct

[granite wing]

I miss multi team

[woeful tendon]

I see. That's too bad. I wish all mode would just be there rather than being rotational. Lol XD

[coarse dagger]

These are the permanent playlists:

• Quick play
• BTB
• Ranked Arena
• Fiesta
• Tactical Slayer
• Team Slayer

[granite wing]

man this discord does not allow custom emotes or uploads ;-;

[pliant palm]

we did

for a whole 4 minutes after opening

and then people ruined it lol

[analog salmon]

we got cortuna though

[pliant palm]

[coarse dagger]

That name kills me - Spartner 😂

[pliant palm]

i uploaded it here as flawless

[coarse dagger]

Also good

[signal ivy]

[granite wing]

When btb slayer puts you with a guy who goes 0 -12 one who goes 1 -13 and another that goes 1-12

[solid ingot]

That just tells you that you are actually good at the game

[grave ether]

That reminds me I need to finish that sketch I did a while back

[glacial tartan]

In MCC ranked Halo doubles (radar) rotated out early, was this communicated anywhere?

[devout kite]

Is it me or having to camp on your side of the map in btb shows that you’re afraid to push the enemy team

[outer sand]

How bad did it get?

[full warren]

yes but no one want the two extremes lol

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1651279028387561474?t=H12mKnLo-D_CgHvpFcWA3w&s=19

Halo (@Halo)

Modding has evolved! We've been blown away by what community modders have been creating and sharing on Steam Workshop for MCC on PC.

Let's take a look at some of our favorite mods in our first MCC Modtacular blog.

🔗 https://t.co/yrYeoOUORz

Likes

120

Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 5:36 PM

[shadow turret]

Yoo, Cursed Halo is on there

[outer sand]

Epic

Kinda reminds me of that post Nintendo did the other day

Oh wait...

[wide trout]

Oh, The Blade Shall Jab Indeed!

[solid ingot]

Genuinely, I’m happy with how 343 handles fans making things in halo. Truly one of the best features of halo

[devout kite]

343 should remove remakes from the game since they aren’t original

[signal ivy]

what

[solid ingot]

que?

[signal ivy]

Master Chief is just a remade version from CE, not original. Please remove him from game

please remove all enemies too

and all Halo rings

[smoky wave]

Remove the whole game

[devout kite]

I meant 343 should remove map remakes

[toxic olive]

What do you classify as a remake

[analog salmon]

why stop at maps? Every gun featured in a previous halo game should be removed from every following game

[solid ingot]

we are being facetious

[analog salmon]

imagine Halo 3 without the BR, AR, Mangum, SMG, Shotgun, Plasma Rifle, Carbine, Brute Shot, Energy Sword, Needler, Plasma pistol, etc.

[solid ingot]

you would have like 3 guns in that game

[analog salmon]

spiker and?

[solid ingot]

the spartan laser, and missile pod

wait no, spartan laser was introduced in 2

[analog salmon]

missile pod and?

there's one more lol

you probs wont get it

https://halo.wiki.gallery/images/7/77/Spartan_with_7wood.jpg

[solid ingot]

nevermind, halo 3 introduced the spartan laser

[analog salmon]

oh you were actually right if you exclude the 7 wood

which is just a gravity hammer really

[solid ingot]

yeah, i got confused by the spartan laser on the halo 3 page not being labeled as its first appearance

[analog salmon]

dang someone should correct that, if only i had the time to make an account lol

[solid ingot]

oh, and the mauler apparently

[analog salmon]

sounds like a fun game, mauler, spiker, missle pods, and 7woods only

[solid ingot]

its like that due to counting short stories and the books as first appearances

you would have the firebomb grenade as the grenade

[granite wing]

Picked up the mangler for the first time since it was nerfed, man is it not worth using anymore

[analog salmon]

ah they should probably do "first video game appearance"

[solid ingot]

so, you get splaser, mauler, spiker, firebomb, missile pods, and 7woods

truly a fun sandbox

the sandbox most destroyed would be Halo 5 though

you would only be able to use the splinter grenade and its associated turret, the hydra, and the plasma caster

oh, and the new rocket launcher and possibly the carriable gauss cannon

[glacial tartan]

In MCC ranked Halo doubles (radar) rotated out early, was this communicated anywhere?

Or will there be an updated Playlist Schedule? The one thats still linked in the MOTD only goes to April 12th for social and March 22nd for Ranked.

[devout kite]

I really hated this weekly challenge because it’s hard to get explosive kills

[barren zephyr]

Just play King of the Hill or Strongholds

[solid ingot]

or fiesta

[sterile meadow]

I have a random weird thing in infinite

Specifically btb:

If you play local the pelican has its landing gear up and ropes on the vehicle drops like campaign,

Switch to online server it has its landing gear down, and no ropes holding the vehicle drop, has anyone else noticed this?

[vapid marten]

An even match is when there are as many single digit kill players on one team as there are double digit kills on the other

[devout kite]

That why I was getting mad I wasn’t getting rockets lol

[solid ingot]

ooooof

[celest heron]

vehicle kills might count like a tank blast etc.

[devout kite]

I finish the challenge when I got a scorpion on launch site

[low blaze]

I find it funny how in halo 3 ||stacker was present at the memorial at the end of the game when stackers picture is shown as one of the people who died||

Man really ||showed up to his own funeral||

[smoky oasis]

My man here really put spoiler tags on a 15 year old game. I respect it.

[signal ivy]

|| Snape kills Dumbledore ||

[smoky oasis]

How dare

[signal ivy]

also || bruce willis was dead the whole time ||

[smoky oasis]

You're ruining everything, Aegis.

[rugged quartz]

I misread that as Sniper instead of snape

[ocean palm]

[devout kite]

Watch out they’ve a snaper lol

[crystal iron]

I feel like these glitches have become more common for some reason

[sullen anvil]

Reinstall? What are you playing on rn?

[granite wing]

Been playing for about 4-5days now again and I got 34 tiers unlocked

the fact that Halo infinite ever launched without reasonable xp from simply just playing was baffling

and the game is just much better with how it is now. Leveling the passes feels less like a chore and more like something that feels natural.

[vapid marten]

There are many things with Halo Infinite's launch which are fascinating ( not in a positive way ) in so many different ways and angles.

I would for instance have loved to listen to the part of the meeting where the result was that the challenge system prevented easily implementing new playlists.

[slow walrus]

I thought the lone wolves playlist was going to be last spartan standing or something

then I checked what was in it and there's literally nothing from season 2

who made this

not even catalyst, which is literally in the menu pic

[teal scarab]

Does gungoose count as explosives?

[wide trout]

It should

[teal scarab]

good to know

[vapid marten]

Never know with i343, Hammer and Sword does not count towards melee kills, at least didn't before.

[wide trout]

Emphasis on should

[teal scarab]

Ye, it did count

so BTB is actually a decent way to get explosion kills if you arent lucky in fiesta

[granite wing]

The more I play breaker the more I think it may be the worst map I've ever played in a halo game

[crystal iron]

Why is golden moa only visible if i use the classic visual? Is that a bug or a normal thing?

[barren zephyr]

List the Battle Rifle, Commando, or Bandit from best to worst in your opinion

[crystal iron]

It’s a normal thing. They just didn’t added moa to anniversary graphics.

[granite wing]

Feel like BR is the obvious favorite/best

though right now the Bandit BTB spawns are the only thing keeping me playing

[barren zephyr]

I go BR, Commando, then Bandit

I will ALWAYS pick up a BR unless I have 2 power weapons

[ruby fossil]

In its current state I’ll pick up commando as a last resort

It still shreds shields, but the bloom is awful.

[magic night]

Yeah. Commando does not feel good to use anymore.

Used to be that I could feel fairly confident that I could score a kill with it, but now it feels like it's just all luck.

[ruby fossil]

The bandit I can do much better with

Headshots seem a little finicky with it, but I’ll take that over the sidekick spam any day

[magic night]

Sidekick also feels less consistent than it used to. Not sure if they made any adjustments to it.

[ruby fossil]

Agreed

[proven pollen]

No adjustments publicly have been made to the SK afaik

I don't think they would make any weapon tuning changes without letting us know

[ocean palm]

😇

[ocean palm]

its goated thats why

[magic night]

Alright. Guess I might've just gotten worse with it.

[crystal iron]

perhaps they didn't intentionally change it and an update broke it

[barren zephyr]

We moving the discussion here now

[ruby fossil]

I love reach

[barren zephyr]

Same

[ruby fossil]

So much that when I finished the campaign I uninstalled it

[uneven bison]

We are hijacking this channel.

[ruby fossil]

So I would never have to bear the emotional rollercoaster of noble team’s deaths

[uneven bison]

It’s not really a rollercoaster, every time one died, I was just “oh that’s too bad” but I never really felt emotion because i never knew the characters

[crystal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-thats-illegal-halo-meme-gif-14048618

[uneven bison]

Where are the marines in long night of solace ending. Are they safe? Are they all right?

The real question here

[plain junco]

Well yeah but the game doesn't focus on that the same reason republic commando doesn't - you're soldiers, cogs in the machine. Sure they could have maybe done a cutscene explaining their origins but it wasn't necessary. I think reach was more evoking the melancholy pessimism that is war, the same way that games like World at War would show death

[magic night]

Would've done a better job at that if it gave a reason to care for the characters involved, though.

[uneven bison]

That is one reason I do like it, your never really alone in the campaign. Same reason I get kinda annoyed with infinite and CE.

But when your finally alone in lone wolf, you get your chance to shine.

[crystal iron]

you can be alone in ce too, just kill your marines

[uneven bison]

As someone who tries to do my own thing and avoid conflict in Civ, killing marines is a no no.

As inevitable as it is

[plain junco]

You avoid conflict in Civ?

[uneven bison]

It’s stupid. I spam settlers and then get angry when they declare war on me. Everything I do in Civ is just shooting myself in the foot

[plain junco]

Ah

I can't play turn based games without the nuclear option frankly

[uneven bison]

I usually kinda amble along the tech tree, and when I reach nuclear, I just bomb the Civ closest to me

In terms of victory status

[plain junco]

True

Endless Space 2 and Stellaris are another one I always end up going that route

[sterile meadow]

If anyone wants to help with a bit of bug reporting on MCC me and someone else noticed after match game-specific music does not play in MCC like it used to, instead default menu music does.

[uneven bison]

I know it’s kind of pointless to try anything peaceful in stellaris, I end up just going military authoritarian with some xenophobic traits

[plain junco]

Ah yes, don't forget the very progressive population policies

Though if anyone targets bubbles they will be systematically destroyed by everyone in the online match

[sterile meadow]

Wait, now I'm not sure if game specific music is supposed to play after online match for each game actually.

[low blaze]

Reach is gone

[ruby fossil]

Say it ain’t true

[sullen anvil]

I hoping the gravity hammer will get its own melee animation for infinite. Right now it just uses the swing animation when you melee. Wish you got to poke people with the sharp edges on the back of the hammer and jab people with the handle

[low blaze]

Halo infinite is not known for having particularly good weapon animations compared to the games that came before

[wide trout]

I don’t think any game was particularly well known for that

[low blaze]

Comparing the gravity hammer to the one in halo 5, while the one in infinite looks more appealing, the one in halo 5 is much more detailed with cooler animations making the one in infinite look more static

Actually this is how it is for every weapon in infinite

[proven pollen]

I’d rather not have my gun flail wildly over my screen when using it. That would be too distracting imo. I would lean on the static side in that case.