Fun is a very very very subjective arbitrator.
#video-games
dire condor
tame veldt
i play byleth
cause they're fun to me!!
i mean, plus fishnets so maybe i can't really talk
bleak coral
eager hamlet
In general
Of all the fighter pass characters
It feels like the anime swordsmen usually fell off really hard past release
rancid token
I'n not thrilled by Yet Another Sword inclusion, but they do look at least interesting
raven dome
https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/1362185273354956821?s=21
These illustrations are what I missed about adding new characters.
rancid token
Plus Xenoblade people have been wanting this one for a while so I'm glad for them
raven dome
I'n not thrilled by Yet Another Sword inclusion, but they do look at least inter...
I feel like people need to stop hating on sword users being included, if only because it’s a basic combat style, like fists and guns.
dire condor
Guns in Smash has never not been weird.
raven dome
Guns in Smash has never not been weird.
I’m including fantasy guns like Samus
tame veldt
a xc2 character was guaranteed in my eyes. in one of the first smash directs sakurai said "sorry we couldn't fit rex into the game maybe next time"
eager hamlet
I mean including swordfighters is fine
rancid token
It's more that most of the sword people, at least for a while, had very similar movesets
eager hamlet
Its that theyre all anime swordfighters
And its pretty much only swordsmen were getting
Why Sephiroth over, say
Kefka?
raven dome
Honestly I’m just happy for more Nintendo characters, I was actually sick of so many crossover characters.
rancid token
Sephiroth is more popular by far
raven dome
Spell Slingers are underrepresented
This, there needs to be another mii class.
dire condor
You know why we're getting Sephiroth instead of Kefka.
eager hamlet
Well
pallid horizon
Sephirotg is funny
dire condor
But I am definitely behind the sentiment.
eager hamlet
I mean, I dont know if thats true
As far as I know, when FF players are asked to rank characters
Kefka has always beaten Sephiroth
But thats within the fan community
rancid token
My issue with Byleth has nothing to do with their mechanics, it's that the character is just such flat nothing
pallid horizon
Tbh I don’t know FF
dire condor
6 is way more popular in Japan than it is in America, but I think Sephiroth is still globally more popular.
rancid token
Also the final smash is a static jpeg
pallid horizon
I just think sephirotgs iconic enough
tame veldt
Also the final smash is a static jpeg
you should see byleth
rancid token
That's who I was referring to
eager hamlet
Might be, actually
rancid token
But also Sephiroth is too
raven dome
you should see byleth
That’s a moving jpeg though 
tame veldt
sephi also moves
raven dome
(Yes I eyerolled my own comment)
eager hamlet
But yeah, the problem is they play too similarly
And as a result, they dont have sticking power
tame veldt
But yeah, the problem is they play too similarly
the frick how
raven dome
Honestly they faked me out big time by not including the smash logo intro thing at the start of the trailer.
eager hamlet
Because why play anime swordfighter #147 if you've played and gotten used to anime swordfighter #83 for so long?
rancid token
To be fair
The ones they started adding in 4 onward have been appreciated departures
tame veldt
are you referring to the dlc or chrom, roy, marth, lucina?
rancid token
Except for Chrom
raven dome
Because why play anime swordfighter #147 if you've played and gotten used to ani...
Because I’m simpleminded and pick characters I like rather than because playstyle
tame veldt
if they're so similar why can't you play them interchangeably
eager hamlet
are you referring to the dlc or chrom, roy, marth, lucina?
Yes
Slight differences in values and muscle memory
tame veldt
so they're different
raven dome
Its the same reason people sticked with one goku instead of the other Goku
But which goku is best in dbfz?
eager hamlet
Its like Lambda 13 and Nu 11 in BlazBlue
rancid token
Most of them aren't different enough is a valid point
eager hamlet
Currently?
raven dome
Yes
eager hamlet
The silverback gorilla
dire condor
I think UI.
raven dome
Ah okay
dire condor
Still think the rat shouldn't get to continue comboing after a Spirit Bomb, but that's probably not going anywhere.
eager hamlet
He is the best character
By a pretty good margin
He is busted
Ironically he doesnt play like the previous Gokus
raven dome
It’s weird because I’ve come to like Super Saiyan Blue after learning the in universe lore behind it but UI still feels meh even after learning what it is
dire condor
There's very little about Super's lore I really like.
But holy cow, watching Bluku go at it in DBFZ?
raven dome
There's very little about Super's lore I really like.
I didn’t watch it, just read stuff on it(which is probably a good choice)
dire condor
I could watch elbow loops all day.
dire condor
Oh, no, same, Lapisonic.
raven dome
Well yeah
eager hamlet
Anyway
UI as a form concept is actually prettycool
The problem is it ended up being "just bigger numbers"
raven dome
I don’t care what anyone says, Buu is the strongest villain
dire condor
Yeah, it's just the next "Super Saiyan".
raven dome
UI as a form concept is actually prettycool
Well the whole “body reacts over mind” thing is cool, but I don’t like that it has nothing to do with SS
eager hamlet
Eh that I dont mind
But yeah, its the fact that the original concept is just
"You can now react without having to think, significantly improving your response time, and making it as if you can predict what the enemy does"
But the end result is "yeah he just gets really really strong"
raven dome
THATS why I think it’s meh
dire condor
UI: Sign did that better.
eager hamlet
In FighterZ
The issue is that UI Goku is too good at everything
He has tools for every occasion and his square button is ridiculous
raven dome
The issue is that UI Goku is too good at everything
Doesn’t he kind of work like Hit, in that he can dodge any attack, but requires literal frame perfect button input reaction?
dire condor
No, Hit doesn't really have anything like that.
eager hamlet
I mean he has a counter as well, but its nowhere near frame perfect
But its also not that important to the character
raven dome
No, Hit doesn't really have anything like that.
I thought that was his thing to make up for zero projectiles
eager hamlet
Hit has a counter
dire condor
He's got his unique parries on Special, but UI has a billion additional options as well as unique properties elsewhere that make him OP.
eager hamlet
Not frame perfect though
And he has a stance where he cant be hit
Hits main thing to make up for that is his normals moving him along the screen
bleak coral
Zagreus taking a smash bros slot would've been unreal
eager hamlet
As well as his stances
Anyway, UI Goku primarily has a frame 4 invincible DP
An unpunishable 2H
bleak coral
Not gonna happen but itd be so good
raven dome
Zagreus taking a smash bros slot would've been unreal
He’s already in Smash though||(as a Mii fighter you create)||
tame veldt
Not gonna happen but itd be so good
nintendo caring about indie games 
raven dome
I don’t actually play DBFZ, but I enjoy watching it
dire condor
They let the Necrodancer people take Zelda for a spin.
raven dome
If it’s anything like Skullgirls, I’d be wrecked by literally everyone.
eager hamlet
Just pick UI and press the square button
raven dome
@bleak coral I feel like only Steve gets a pass as an indie game because it’s the highest selling game of all time
raven dome
That’s literally how Sakurai put it
Sakurai pretty much said “Nintendo made me”
Something like
Nintendo: “Surely you can put in a character from Minecraft, the highest selling game of all time, right?”
rancid token
Tbh I don't consider Steve an indie character at the current point in time
tame veldt
^
raven dome
I just enjoy more Nintendo characters again
wraith cradle
Great, now we have Steve in Minecraft we need Franklin too as the GTAV Representative 🙃
raven dome
Also I’m like one of the ten people that unironically wants ||Euden|| in the game.
So what I want isn’t important.
I’d take a Mii Costume tbh
raven dome
Speaking of AA, remember my sporadic playing schedule? I still need to play investigations and everything past Apollo
(Also Ghost Trick, unfortunately my computer can’t seem to ||emulate|| it well)
wraith cradle
Welp now Shattered has finally come out I can start a clean save
Let's see how good of a souls-like it is
toxic cosmos
Oh yea, thanks! I misread that!
Debating whether I want to start a fresh save for it
wraith cradle
Oh yea, thanks! I misread that!
Ah no I'm talking about a different game
toxic cosmos
I understand, I was talking to UNO, mb
toxic cosmos
It is a pretty long game
I might stick with my current progress
Tho I have pretty much done everything and got everything
I hope it won't feel broken
woven breach
just watched TL;DR of nintendo direct
Neon white looks promising
not really keen on everything else
but skyward sword is coming, I didn't have a Wii so I'm looking forward to that
winged verge
skyward is probably my fav zelda game outside of BOTW
but it also falls into the trope of "whatever zelda game you played when you were 12 is your favorite" so that that with a grain of salt
its biggest criticism is that it's very linear, and loops back on already visited locations a lot
tame veldt
skyward is probably my fav zelda game outside of BOTW
but it also falls into the...
i hate this statement but i one hundred percent agree with it
winged verge
i was disappointed when like
1/4th of the map was hidden for the longest time and then I didnt get to do much in it once I got access
woven breach
I hope it's gonna be like No more heroes case for me
it's pretty rough adjustment at start but it builds up to something great
not no more heroes 2 tho
that one can go drink a hot caramel
raven dome
I still need to play No More Heroes 2
Also Skyward Sword is genuinely one of my favorite Zelda games, and I don’t fall into the category above.
Most people didn’t like the motion control centered puzzles but I loved them, kept me on my toes. I never thought killing Skulltulas would be difficult but it was.
||I haven’t played BOTW yet because it’s such a huge commitment||
||Someday I will, though||
(Also, in case you’re wondering, it’s not original, but it’s true, MM is my favorite Zelda)
vital glacier
lethal league blaze is a very good fighting game
graceful galleon
finished Oath in Felghana
that was great
Hollow Knight is next, hopefully i'll finish it this time 
floral warren
I'm having this sudden urge between playing Celeste and Witcher 3
floral warren
It's hella long
floral warren
I just finished it last December, took me a whole year to come back and finish it
vital glacier
i either barely play a game or do everything in it
eager hamlet
Oath in Felghana is pretty good
floral warren
40hours and I feel I haven't done a thing
eager hamlet
Has my favourite music of the Origins era of Ys
vital glacier
just play souls games
like uhhhhhh
bloodborne
dark souls
dark souls 2
dark souls 3
soon elden ring
and oh yeah demon souls
floral warren
I'm the little brother of my dark souls friends group, can't go past a corner without having to ask them
north wolf
Oof
floral warren
my to do list currently is Deus Ex, Hades, Celeste
I'm moving Dark souls 1 to the side, and just playing around with cp77 mods
my cp77 2nd save (which was nearing 40 hours) is gone due to a bug that doesn't show any main mission for me, I had to kinda New Game+ that with mods
graceful galleon
Has my favourite music of the Origins era of Ys
I dont have any other ys music to compare it to, but Valestein castle's theme slaps
eager hamlet
I prefer "Dark Beasts as Black as Night", the first theme you hear
But Valestein castle is also pretty good
graceful galleon
Oo the boss theme, i think?
woven breach
I vouch for nier
I just beat Code Vein yest
now cause my friend bought me the game I have to grind with him
there's this item called Mark Of Honor which drops on multiplayer, to get one of the achievement you need 400 of them
and the most you get from a dungeon is... 5
graceful galleon
Ouch
woven breach
ikr
it's not the fastest, there are some faster but harder way
this is the one he picked
graceful galleon
Its just for achievement?
graceful galleon
tight trench
joy
graceful galleon
you'll need a nectar after that grind mate
woven breach
legit to get some of the achievements you need to get through hoops and floops towards it
floral warren
Good luck with your Achievement-hunting endeavors
graceful galleon
Whoa I completely forgot Bravely default 2 is gonna be released at the end of this month
graceful galleon
Omw downloading the demo
eager hamlet
Oo the boss theme, i think?
Nah, the boss theme is "The strongest foe"
The one I mean is the one you get when you fight those wolves at the start
No wait
It might actually be the regular boss theme as well
And the strongest foe is the other boss theme you get later
normal marsh
crosscode dlc coming out next week lfg
stable kindle
eager hamlet
We might get Evelynn with the next regions expansion
Also, I love this trailer
I wonder if they use stop motion for the mid-section
stable kindle
floral warren
inb4 they put azir or sivir
floral warren
Nasus was building damage only, he got rekkt by renekton 
floral warren
azir's in this set?
I wasn't paying attention, mb 
stable kindle
😭
it's not on that image in the tweet but there's a 7 mana card they revealed too with azir on it
god i can't wait for all the delicious art in this set
floral warren
they're taking this stuff seriously and I like it
experience league without the league experience
stable kindle
that's why i like lor LOL while i never dipped into hearthstone (blessing in disguise apparently) ive always liked mtg and some other digital card games ive dabbled in like shadowverse. i just don't like competitive too much bc i frankly don't have the energy to keep up with meta, so i hope they do more stuff like lab of legends, as much grief as it's given me lmao
eager hamlet
We already have leaks telling us what champs are coming btw
The ones the trailer already told us are Azir, Nasus and Renekton
We also know of Zilean because of the second expansions name, and Taliyah because of the art used for the bonus expansion
stable kindle
yeah i heard taliyah
eager hamlet
Its a shame she is probably the last one to be released
I really like Taliyahs design
But the champ isnt fun to play
polar dragon
Hearthstone lore is basically Warcraft lore. I understand why they don't have anything new lorewise for Hearthstone.
floral warren
https://twitter.com/AndyPlaytonic/status/1362506457791479810?s=20
"I believe it when I see it"
Twitter
stable kindle
indeed but that first point is funny as hell, just thinking about konami being like, dang making games is harder than we thought when we keep booting everyone making our games good loool
floral warren
they just yeet out the great games to other clueless devs who don't know stuff about the series
sigh guess I'll never live to the day I see Solid Snake and Shadow Moses looking clean as Venom Snake from MGS V
and I can guarantee there will not be MSX Metal gear 1 and metal gear 2 remakes
if that happened, Gerry can post this message to r/agedlikemilk the moment they announce it
floral warren
nope, can't some anything from konami
they legit created best 4 IPs of all time and what they do with it? kick the devs that made it happen
Silent hill, contra, castlevania, Metal Gear
these stuff wasn't going to exist and change the world of gaming if they weren't in there
Metal Gear proved that you can infact tell an anti-war story without the war part
im just venting dont mind me
stable kindle
well at least bloodstained is the spiritual successor to castlevania and is good
tame veldt
why is my backlog so BIG
steady otter
Time.. there’s never enough
tame veldt
another game to the list
floral warren
well at least bloodstained is the spiritual successor to castlevania and is good
heard lotta good stuff about bloodstained
maybe cuz the dude who made castlevania is with them
well, hopefully kojima can get his stuff together and make "not" metal gear or something, I wasn't impressed when I saw Death Stranding
I love his excuse tho, " "different artistic sensibility" than Americans"
stable kindle
oh yeah igarashi produced bloodstained, he was the lead producer of the castlevania series from 99 onward til his departure from konami
floral warren
I'm waiting for more stealth games, and cyberpunk's stealth system is so stupid
until then , Deus Ex will make me enjoy stealth till it lasts
thanks @fathom juniper
just don't click at my profile
stable kindle
iga flexing on everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A640g5gDBJA
floral warren
woah, I just dropped my jaw at that
truly flexing
little stone
floral warren
been two years since I've touched destiny 2
I'm a hunter who loves the super's gun
and triple jump is the best mechanic ever made
dire saffron
iga flexing on everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A640g5gDBJA
oh damn, that looks loads better and much more stylized
dire saffron
considering i have such a disposition towards anything AAA def contributes to my distaste of AAA and from what ive seen i just didnt like fenyx @stable kindle
like man, greek botw
with not so funny comedy over it
and why would i waste 60$ on fenyx when i can spend 25 on hades
when hades is an arguably better experience
dire saffron
yeaa
and i just find it dumb that indie games with a very small budget and only a handful of people can out preform AAA companies
like indie is just better
more passion
vivid mesa
big companies
more moving parts = more problems
dire saffron
very few AAA games would i play over indie
vivid mesa
Suda51 experienced that. His work with EA was so muddled that it was unrecognizeable from the original cocept
*concept, bloody cold hands -_-
dire saffron
i mean but sometimes im like "why are there so many parts"
like take pokemon for example
literally the models are simple as hell and ported, the entire combat system and dex is ported, and theres almost nothing content wise
like wtf happens to the budget
tame veldt
you realize gamefreak makes other games
dire saffron
yea, like little town hero
which didnt do good
but still, they have no excuse for bad pokemon titles
literally half of the game is ported
and the fact that they took steps backwards sucks
tame veldt
mmmmm 
stable kindle
the comedy part is what made me like the game lmao
tame veldt
i don't think so
stable kindle
a lot of the charm is in the characterization
dire saffron
like in lets go they had shinies show up in the overworld but in s&s you have ot go into the fight
thats just a step back
its a system they already had but they couldnt be bothered to but it in
stable kindle
i think you guys are being a little cynical with the 'its just greek botw with bad comedy' but aight.
tame veldt
its a system they already had but they couldnt be bothered to but it in
imagine defending let's go cringeeeee
dire saffron
i think you guys are being a little cynical with the 'its just greek botw with b...
hehe thats me :3
stable kindle
well it doesnt really encourage any meaningful discussion so im gonna go back to eating my pizza 
stable kindle
hi mendy
tame veldt
hope im not late
you are
zenith mantle
honestly.... greek botw sounds like a perfect game for me
tame veldt
or not
dire saffron
i heard the combat was good but like
dire saffron
its just not interesting to me
zenith mantle
and im always a simp for good characterization
dire saffron
its greek stuff told for the 100th time with an overarching design philosiphy that has been done before
zenith mantle
everything has been done before
dire saffron
(the va kinda poopy to too me)
stable kindle
the vas all come from odyssey
tame veldt
its greek stuff told for the 100th time with an overarching design philosiphy th...
i'm getting some real negative hater vibes from you. 
stable kindle
mood lmao
dire saffron
i mean i give it credit in combat, the combat is cool
zenith mantle
hades game is technically also greek stuff told for the 100th time with an overarching design philosophy that has been done before
dire saffron
hades game is technically also greek stuff told for the 100th time with an overa...
the greek stuff is cthonic which is almost never focused on and im a sucker for rogue likes
tame veldt
hades game is technically also greek stuff told for the 100th time with an overa...
FWOOOOoooom * EXPLOSION * "Shut down!"
zenith mantle
spiritfarer
stable kindle
i mean at the end of the day its just a difference of tastes
dire saffron
spiritfarer
but it was a wonderful twist on it
instead of just being a boatman you help them move on and its much more wholesome and a treat to get into
but then like fenyx is just meh
zenith mantle
I've been meaning to get into spiritfarer.... i have a weeks break in march, guess i know what im gonna spend it on now
stable kindle
tbh skillup's vid said it best in that the writing is going to make or break the game for people. for me, it was one of the things i enjoyed the most about it, and i got super endeared to the gods, which caught me off guard. exploring their insecurities and how it affects them? bro i eat that up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFCaJj9oAyY
anyway back to my pizza for real tho
zenith mantle
eat up the pizza too
dire saffron
but yea like tatz said its all opinion
i wasnt even a big fan of botw and i wish that different mythologies wolud be used
and i just despise AAA at this point
zenith mantle
not @ me wanting to play botw and just downloading genshin instead because im cheap...... i ended up loving genshin though
tame veldt
i wasnt even a big fan of botw and i wish that different mythologies wolud be us...
play the xbox 360 minecraft mythology worlds.
dire saffron
play the xbox 360 minecraft mythology worlds.
mfg lmao
zenith mantle
although i know many people dislike it due to p2w features and twee animu
dire saffron
not @ me wanting to play botw and just downloading genshin instead because im ch...
yea gachas are cool
tame veldt
yea gachas are cool
you just posted cringe
dire saffron
i play feh and ive been wanting to get genshin but nothing i have will run it smoothly ;w;
zenith mantle
i do have come Controversial opinions about hades game
zenith mantle
imo, Thanatos is an uninteresting love interest
dire saffron
~~imo, Thanatos is an uninteresting love interest~~
mm love interest is always opinionated
tame veldt
HE'S SO BORINGGG
dire saffron
peolpe love who they love
zenith mantle
Trust me there are many people who don't like him dufhdkfj
tame veldt
i just love than :3
whyyyyy
zenith mantle
I just... he really isn't my type
tame veldt
his hair took a hard left and a hard right, right in the center of his head
vivid mesa
i think you guys are being a little cynical with the 'its just greek botw with b...
Giant Bomb gave some negative reviews on the comedy, and personally I vibe with their humor. I'll give it a try down the road though. 🙂
zenith mantle
I think the fandom and SGG's bias towards him overhyped him a little so when I actually encountered him ingame I was kinda let down
dire saffron
I think the fandom and SGG's bias towards him overhyped him a little so when I a...
well i met him in early access when he was new so i had a clean slate
no expectations
i just loved him on sight
dire saffron
his hair took a hard left and a hard right, right in the center of his head <:za...
and yea tbh long hair than looks better
dire saffron
okay but what about.... long hair Ares
I WannA SeE
tame veldt
i think i'm too straight to be engaging in this discussion
dire saffron
i think i'm too straight to be engaging in this discussion
yea you do you man
dire saffron
I love that Ares and Athena are dark-skinned
i just love how none of them are pasty white
zenith mantle
i was gonna say Hypnos but then his skin is lavender coloured
dire saffron
oh yea, nyx and orpheus
but i feel like nyx has some sort of excuse for color purposes
since otherwise it would all be too dark
zenith mantle
Orpheus is kinda... grey to me lol
dire saffron
need it for the contrast
dire saffron
Orpheus is kinda... grey to me lol
i- yea yea you right
zenith mantle
greyish green
vivid mesa
Blasian bonsai dryad Eurydice might still be my favorite tho
dire saffron
tree woman
zenith mantle
what's her hair care routine
tame veldt
what's her hair care routine
water
zenith mantle
"i slather 20g of nitrate fertilizer on my scalp"
dire saffron
when eury first came out i was just like, "man, they really just said tree"
dire saffron
"i slather 20g of nitrate fertilizer on my scalp"
i wonder if pruning feels like a haircut where you only feel the scissors but then again she just is wood
so like
is her hair made of flesh or is her flesh made out of hair
she screams, for she does not know
vivid mesa
and she has yakuza tattoos 🤣
zenith mantle
dire saffron
damn yea im curious how eury just works as a being now
zenith mantle
nymphs be wilding
re: Thanatos
I think I just have preconceived ideas of what a death god should be like, and Supergiant Thanatos is far off from my idea of that
zenith mantle
Also he's kinda cliche as a character, I feel - there's really not much that stands out in his interactions with Zag other than the fact he's all tsk tsk Zag don't get the wrong idea about me I don't like you in That Way
I love the mythological figure though
dire saffron
eh yea he is just a tsundere but i love him and no one can change that :3
zenith mantle
no ones trying to change your mind lol
twin yarrow
i had no idea, what Thanatos should look like before i've encountered him. tbh, i've expected something scary.. and i was surprised. but not disappointed
edgy anime guy also caused some kind of shudder at first
stable kindle
hey friends reminder that hades-related discussion belongs in #h1-discussion and #h1-story-discussion and #video-games is for any game that isnt hades
stable kindle
mythos talk goes in #off-topic-discussion lol
stable kindle
male
twin yarrow
pretends that change of theme was intended from the beginning
twin yarrow
has wings, like myths say
zenith mantle
hes got thighs that could crack watermelons
peaceful death by thigh suffocation
dire saffron
hes got thighs that could crack watermelons
doesnt every greek figure tho??
stable kindle
not necessarily, depends on the media
zenith mantle
Hermes tends to be depicted as a skinny little twink
see: GOW Hermes (a twink in comparison to the rest of the cast)
twin yarrow
but logically, he is the one who supposed to have such thighs
dire saffron
but logically, he is the one who supposed to have such thighs
yea why would he ever skip leg day
zenith mantle
oop i tried to send a pic of GOW Than and it failed to send
Anyway it amuses me how much he looks like Supergiant Than
hes got the same withering stare and protruding cheekbones
dire saffron
hes got the same withering stare and protruding cheekbones
the defining features ofc
stable kindle
@polar dragon pspspspsps https://twitter.com/LoL_illust2/status/1362317246803099649
zenith mantle
Sleepy soft boy is literally his twin
dire saffron
Sleepy soft boy is literally his twin
yea and violent crazy is his sisters
so like
whats left
eager hamlet
Ah yes, Kai'sa
The design that makes no sense and is a waste of a really cool concept
tame veldt
The design that makes no sense and is a waste of a really cool concept
I'm getting some real negative hater vibes from you.
eager hamlet
Eh, not really
Like thats not a controversial statement
Thats generally what people agree on
zenith mantle
SMT Thanatos has a real dope design and I adore it
eager hamlet
Kai'sa is supposed to be this battle-hardened survivor of the void
And she looks like a supermodel in a latex suit
tame veldt
i like mara's design 😏
eager hamlet
And hell, in the end Riot agreed that they messed up with Kaisa
stable kindle
Thats generally what people agree on
im going to be controversial and disagree then 
tame veldt
they're all smt demons just different designs
dire saffron
hehe lol p3
eager hamlet
Yesn't
SMT and Persona 3 onwards
Are seriously different in just about every regard
tame veldt
hehe lol p3
||the worst persona ||
eager hamlet
Including demon design
eager hamlet
im going to be controversial and disagree then <:haha:789283162127597608>
I mean hey, if you enjoy it, have at it
I was just really disappointed by it
We should've gotten badass scarred lady
Instead we got supermodel whose makeup is somehow flawless despite surviving in the void
And yes, I have played Persona 3
Twice, as a matter of fact
stable kindle
shes not my top fav but honestly im saying that deliberately to be contrary because this channel makes me wish i had the energy to be as negative as it is sometimes lmao
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tame veldt
storywise, maybe probably, gameplay wise it is absolute garbage
eager hamlet
Gameplay is just one facet
tame veldt
shes not my top fav but honestly im saying that deliberately to be contrary beca...
hehe that's me
tame veldt
haven't played p3p
stable kindle
im just like hehe funni vidya games
eager hamlet
Since it lets you control your characters
tame veldt
Since it lets you control your characters
wwhatat
eager hamlet
I also hate how only Kai'sas first skin actually plays at all into her theme
tame veldt
lemme find a portable emulatot
eager hamlet
You didnt know?
Yeah you control the full party in portable
Like, every Kai'sa skin beyond the first forgets the whole adaptive suit and helmet thing
tame veldt
you know any psp emulators
eager hamlet
Its incredibly disappointing, especially since she is fun to play
PPSSPP
Works for both android and PC
tame veldt
i'll ping you when i finish
see if it's good
cause i like p3's story but the gameplay is unbearable
eager hamlet
Then again, they also ruined Kai'sas gameplay now
From having a bunch of different, unique and interesting builds
To being part of the crit hivemind
humble dust
only enjoyable thing league has ever produced is gorsky's dumb montages
and the draven subreddit
which is entirely posts of arabic memes and jax's e
fast kiln
||the worst persona ||
i kinda agree with you
tame veldt
cause i'm right
fast kiln
👍
fast kiln
i mean
tame veldt
but base p3 is garbo
dire basin
p3 tartarus bad
zenith mantle
y'all raging about League
dire basin
go play P1 or smth
zenith mantle
I'm here raging about Brawl Stars
dire basin
thats a good tartarus
fast kiln
the pacing pretty bad in p3
zenith mantle
Forever in pain at their complete lack of characterization
eager hamlet
You can make a case for P4 being better than P3
But P5 is definitely the weakest one
fast kiln
idk about that
eager hamlet
Its story takes an absolute nosedive in the last arc
eager hamlet
Which given that story has always been the main draw of Persona games
Is kind of bad
fast kiln
i thought p5 was alright
eager hamlet
Plus while it has the most well-rounded cast of characters, neither main nor side characters excel
Except for Ryuji
Ryuji is the best boy
dire basin
well p5 isnt super bad but the story is kinda meh imo
eager hamlet
Yeah ok Sojiro is also fair
tame veldt
Plus while it has the most well-rounded cast of characters, neither main nor sid...
b- b- but ryoogi woogi
eager hamlet
He is great
But like
The story just completely falls apart
Because they needed to have a random god out of nowhere
fast kiln
i dont like the "adult bad" thing
eager hamlet
Because hey, thats the Persona style
But they didnt really have anything good to tie in with it
Or any reason for there to be a god
dire basin
i mean its persona of course theres a god final boss
eager hamlet
So you just had a messy final arc
That flounders about before trying to somehow concluding
And even the final showdown, despite obviously trying to emulate that iconic last scene from Persona 4, falls kinda flat
Its just ... empty
dire basin
i dont think the final arc is that bad
fast kiln
its ok
dire basin
sure its sort of lackluster
fast kiln
the dungeon was cool
dire basin
but it doesnt come out of nowhere imo
fast kiln
the boss fight was ok i guess
eager hamlet
But we only know the version without the cut content
So
What we get is just a weird mess
Ironically its the opposite of my problem with Ys IX
tame veldt
and yet guess where your pfp comes from.
tame veldt
i mean tbh if you talk about content being cut, p5r fixes that issue no?
that's my 2 cents, p5 bad, p5r good
fast kiln
the amount of dlc is ridiculous
dire basin
atlus is bad at handling dlc in general tbh
fast kiln
yeah
fast kiln
my biggest problem with the game was how easy it was
eager hamlet
And I was playing Persona 5 at the time I got it
Without having finished it
Idk if P5R fixes it
dire basin
my biggest problem with the game was how easy it was
yea thats a problem i have with persona too
fast kiln
i think p4 is the best modern persona game
eager hamlet
Ive not played it
dire basin
which is why i prefer SMT
fast kiln
which is why i prefer SMT
IV is my favorite smt game
eager hamlet
It adds another arc beyond that, but it doesnt really fix anything
tame veldt
which is why i prefer SMT
Devil Survivor Supremacy
dire basin
IV is my favorite smt game
same lmao
eager hamlet
I mean
dire basin
the QOL changes are noice
fast kiln
i want to try Devil survivor
eager hamlet
Turn-based games arent very fun if theyre hard, soooo
dire basin
combat is easy but the DLC bosses fix that for me
eager hamlet
Then again, turn-based JRPGs arent very fun in general
dire basin
Devil Survivor Supremacy
hell yea
dire basin
i dont have a switch so i cant get it when it releases 😔
eager hamlet
Same
fast kiln
damn
eager hamlet
Just get on it already Capcom
dire basin
epic
fast kiln
i want to try xenoblade chronicles 1 and 2 before smt v releases
i was planning to for a while and the direct kinda motivated me
tame veldt
i was planning to for a while and the direct kinda motivated me
speaking of the direct
sadge no smt news
fast kiln
i wasnt that surprised
tame veldt
i want that japanese guy's smooth voice again
dire basin
tbh smt v is probs getting delayed
tame veldt
y'know
fast kiln
atlus moment
dire basin
and nocturne remastered has a lot of issues from what ive seen 😔
graceful galleon
p5 got delayed how many times?
fast kiln
like 4 or something
dire basin
hope it gets fixed before translated ver comes out
tame veldt
and nocturne remastered has a lot of issues from what ive seen 😔
but did you see the update
dire basin
yea i saw it
tame veldt
looks like the update fixes ALOT
dire basin
but my friends who have it said not all issues have been fixed
graceful galleon
I really dont mind delays if the end product turns out great though
dire basin
^
fast kiln
i hope it doesnt turn out like apocalypse
dire basin
i mean tbh i feel like its better if they make one long delay then make tons of short delays
tame veldt
i hope it doesnt turn out like apocalypse
frick i still need to play smt4a
fast kiln
its just a pretty generic story
dire basin
cuz i loved 4
fast kiln
like a super shounen story
dire basin
ah i see
fast kiln
and law, chaos, neutral are not in the game
tame veldt
and law, chaos, neutral are not in the game
maybe i won't play it
dire basin
bruh
dire basin
theres a good ending
tame veldt
like p5
fast kiln
neither do i
dire basin
cuz the point of the alignments are that none of them are good
there are pros and cons
fast kiln
but i will admit that im kinda getting bored of law chaos neutral
fast kiln
yeah the days right?
dire basin
nocturne also does right?
fast kiln
i have not played nocturne fully yet
tame veldt
it makes you question your beliefs and how there is no right side and you need to weigh what is more right. side with order and god and live the way you were meant to or descend to chaos where there are no rules.
dire basin
yeah the days right?
the ending isnt allignement based but based on characters you saved and which one you pick to meet in the end
dire basin
it makes you question your beliefs and how there is no right side and you need t...
yea exactly
dire basin
yea out of all the SMT I have played i def liked devil survivor's bosses and ending stuff the most
tame veldt
i want to try devil survivor mostly cause its an srpg
it's half turnbased and half srpg
it's really interesting
fast kiln
i see 
tame veldt
it's pretty hard if you don't know what you're doing
dire basin
yea theres stuff like area skills and race skills you should consider in a battle too
tame veldt
devil speed is op
dire basin
so its not just like normal smt where you encounter enemies, buff/debuff and attack
tame veldt
and drop yuzu as fast as possible
dire basin
yuzu is a good healer and magic dealer imo
tame veldt
her health is so low though
dire basin
i think what i did for that was put the race skills that allow her to attack from a distance
then again
mari best
tame veldt
i see how she could be good with them
dire basin
yea but in day 7 i do just drop her lmao
cuz mari is in most of the endings
and she is way better
helped me beat final boss quite a lot of times actually
fast kiln
yosuke is better ryuji
fast kiln
😳
dire basin
atsuro best bro
eager hamlet
Thats not hard, Yosuke sucks
dire basin
can any of the others hack a bootleg DS? I dont think so
dire basin
ok but ryuji cant hack a bootleg DS
eager hamlet
The only one who might have a claim to that
tame veldt
oh no, bad opinions mcgeee
eager hamlet
Is Kanji
eager hamlet
Objectively wrong
fast kiln
i still need to play p2
fast kiln
i like the character designs and the ost
eager hamlet
Yosuke is just rude and unpleasant and nasty
fast kiln
tame veldt
but the hiimdaisy he is wonderful
dire basin
p2 has a great story and the dungeons are better than the rng dungeons of modern persona imo
eager hamlet
No one who makes Kanji uncomfortable can be a good person
Third place would be
Hm
Shinjiro I suppose
fast kiln
p2 has a great story and the dungeons are better than the rng dungeons of modern...
random encounters are starting to get overdone tbh
dire basin
yea tbh i hope that persona gets better dungeons
like p5 dungeons are a good step
but mementos is a thing
tame veldt
but mementos is a thing
i like meme and toes
fast kiln
i dont really want to see sl
dire basin
meme and toes makes me wanna puke a bit after a while there
fast kiln
hashino left so maybe well get something new
fast kiln
but thats just cause of jose
dire basin
yea p5r improved it
eager hamlet
Idk, Personas dungeons seem fine to me
dire basin
but still i think it couldve been better
wraith cradle
How good is the P5 anime?
tame veldt
hashino left so maybe well get something new
but then we get re:fantasy which i'm hyped for.
fast kiln
How good is the P5 anime?
do not
dire basin
How good is the P5 anime?
hahahahahahaahah
tame veldt
don't do it
dire basin
wait wrong reply
fast kiln
but then we get re:fantasy which i'm hyped for.
im hyped for that to
wraith cradle
Is bad?
fast kiln
yeah
tame veldt
OHH YEAH it's bad
wraith cradle
How bad?
fast kiln
p4 anime and p3 movies are leagues better
wraith cradle
Berserk bad?
fast kiln
Berserk bad?
ok not that bad
dire basin
but then we get re:fantasy which i'm hyped for.
re:fantasy more like gone
dire basin
not the golden anime
yea golden anime trash
wraith cradle
Animation or writing?
tame veldt
if it says A-1 any where on it, bounce
eager hamlet
Yeah re:fantasy isnt coming out any time soon
tame veldt
Animation or writing?
everything
dire basin
writing also bad
fast kiln
Animation or writing?
its just not worth watching but if you really wanted to get the story without playing the game then i guess go for it
tame veldt
tame veldt
they skip frames on ann's
it's cringe
actual powerpoint presentation
but if you want to experience P5, watch shenpai's or johneawesome's lets play
dire basin
yea honestly idk how it was that bad honestly
dire basin
but if you want to ***experience*** P5, watch shenpai's or johneawesome's lets p...
yes this
tame veldt
yea honestly idk how it was that bad honestly
A-1
dire basin
but honestly i recommend you play it yourself if you can
dire basin
you can play base p5 in ps3 iirc
fast kiln
p5 is free on the ps collection thing for ps5
fast kiln
you can play base p5 in ps3 iirc
yeah
tame veldt
i played P5 on a ps3 emulator before it got dmca'd
mortal siren
p4 royal gud on pc?
tame veldt
p4 royal gud on pc?
p4 royal lmaooo
fast kiln
p4 is probably the best out of the modern games
mortal siren
idk man never played any persona
fast kiln
p4g adds some dumb stuff but its still worth playing if your new
tame veldt
get it on sale tho
fast kiln
its like 20 bucks tho right?
mortal siren
does it need big rig or potato is fine?
fast kiln
does it need big rig or potato is fine?
well its a vita game soooo
tame veldt
i'd emulate the ps2 version
eager hamlet
Also eh, its worth 20 bucks for sure
mortal siren
imma try to cough criminally cough acquire the game first to see if it run fine on my system
dire basin
i mean its a vita game
tame veldt
imma try to *cough* criminally *cough* acquire the game first to see if it run f...
that's my boy!
dire basin
and you can check spec requirements on the steam page lmao
also benchmarking websites
i'm planning on buying P4G too tbh
once it goes on sale
mortal siren
steam spec requirements are borderline useless, some games u can mod it for low end, some just need to go dx10
dire basin
well i guess if you really want to be sure
fast kiln
i'm planning on buying P4G too tbh
i had a lot of fun with it, great game
tame veldt
if it's higher than windows 7, it will prolly run
mortal siren
i mean i can run yakuza 0
fast kiln
your fine
tame veldt
you're fine stfu with "my computer is like glados in portal 2"
fast kiln
i will later
tame veldt
if it goes on sale
mortal siren
i have portal in my back log, never played those
tame veldt
knowing atlus though....
fast kiln
like i said earlier i want to play xenoblade and im not that interested in p5s anymore
tame veldt
i have portal in my back log, never played those
THOU ART DOITDOITDOITDOITDOITDOITDOIT
tame veldt
anybody get my reference
dire basin
portal 1 is around 3 hours?
tame veldt
no...?
dire basin
i did
tame veldt
got it
mortal siren
3h? dats like a death stranding cutscene
dire basin
lmao
tame veldt
3h? dats like a death stranding cutscene
it's more like an hour
fast kiln
i didn't know they were that short
dire basin
yea it depends on how skilled and how you play tbh
mortal siren
so basically portal games is just tech demos
dire basin
i tend to explore every nook and cranny of each level
dire basin
so basically portal games is just tech demos
my friend says first game is a tech demo lmao
tame veldt
so basically portal games is just tech demos
no, they're only long if you make it that way
so as long you're big brain it's whatever
dire basin
i mean portal 2 took me around 10 hours to beat
and theres also multiplayer
i mess around a lot when playing portal tho lmao
tame veldt
i still play portal 2 multiplayer with my old texas friends
dire basin
which is why i take quite a long time
dire basin
i still play portal 2 multiplayer with my old texas friends
nice
tame veldt
it's really good
dire basin
wait they have internet?
tame veldt
well...
fast kiln
my power came back today
tame veldt
not now...
tame veldt
my power came back today
yayy
fast kiln
so hopefully everybody else can get theirs back
tame veldt
i moved out of texas at the right time
mortal siren
my power came back today
for now
tame veldt
then again i also had to drive through that massive dust storm in september
mortal siren
what i recall seeing is the electricity price goes through the roof somehow
dire basin
i feel so bad for my friends who live in texas tbh
well at least one of em seems to be having fun
fast kiln
some people i know lost their hot water
tame veldt
my friend never goes offline on discord because he leaves his comp on overnight and he went offline sooooooooooo
fast kiln
hopefully it gets better
dire basin
some people i know lost their hot water
my friend lost water too but he just started melting snow lmao
tame veldt
if you have snow go outside
dire basin
hopefully the snowstorm passes soon tbh im kinda worried
fast kiln
my friend lost water too but he just started melting snow lmao
lmao
fast kiln
i lost hot water yesterday
tame veldt
makes me so happy
dire basin
what is it with america and disasters happening since the start of 2021
tame veldt
i lived in texas for 15 years, it never went below 20 in the dallas fort worth area
how does it do this
tame veldt
it got to -4 in rockwall i'm pretty sure
stable kindle
tame veldt
oopsy woopsy
dire basin
oh sorry we got off topic lmao
oh no
fathom juniper
It's alright
floral warren
right I haven’t told you about this one
So my save which was 40 hours or so just completely got busted cuz I can’t progress in it , the game said “no” to main missions so what I had to do was to kinda new game+ it on a new save and play to the last place I was in last save