h1-high-heat-strategies

[true fable]

BP and MM are almost "must picks" if you go up in heat

[true ridge]

hold up, just traded my ambrosia

aaand i could afford one level of chaos

hold up, thats only 13 heat

[honest kernel]

Yeah

Dammit Bright

[rancid stirrup]

tartarus JS3 FO2 phantom BP witch rooms will haunt my nightmares

[true fable]

wait actually?

what did i miss

thinking

[honest kernel]

BP1 instead of BP2

You goof

[true fable]

oh lol

FO1

add FO1 in there

it's good to start adding some FO as resqtoaster mentioned

[honest kernel]

Oh

[true fable]

BP2 can be a little bit "welcome to hell" if you havent done it before

shudders

[true ridge]

what would you recommend for keepsakes?

[honest kernel]

For chaos shield ?

[true ridge]

yee

[honest kernel]

Thunder Signet and aim for a special

Attack if it doesn't show up

Afterwards you can do whatever

[true ridge]

what about mirror upgrades? (sorry if i am asking too much)

[honest kernel]

All cool

Depends on how full your mirror is

[true fable]

the standard mirror is something like

[true ridge]

i have 9800 darkness to play around with

[true fable]

shadow presence/dark regen/DD/greater reflex/boiling blood/deep pockets/thick skin

[honest kernel]

https://gyazo.com/a111a1ccafaf4089ff9b4274debca124

[true fable]

^

[honest kernel]

Chthonic or Dark Regen are both fine

[true fable]

last four all green except god's pride vs god's legacy

that depends on duos

[honest kernel]

With Chaos Shield

Duos aren't mandatory

Unless you do Merciful End shenanigans

[true ridge]

what gods would i want to aim for?

[true fable]

any build with zeus always wants more zeus

getting athena in your pool is good for safety

[honest kernel]

If you can get Aphrodite, Artemis, Dionysus or maybe even Athena for your attack, that'd be ideal

Divine Dash is also fine still

[true fable]

i would stick with artemis/aphrodite/ares attack tbh

[honest kernel]

Ares attack is also solid too yeah

[true fable]

dio/zeus call + smoldering air is quite good if you can get aphrodite in your pool

[honest kernel]

But Artemis and Aphrodite are big priority

[true ridge]

for their call?

[honest kernel]

For attack. Dio and Zeus for Call

[true ridge]

huh. i see a lot of people talking about aphrodite and artemis for fighting thesius

[honest kernel]

You don't get the value of Golden Touch unless you don't spend any gold early

And by that point, it's whatever

[spring kettle]

Deep pockets is for a good beginning

[honest kernel]

Might as well get it early and get the boons as soon as possible

[spring kettle]

Golden touch is if you want to buy the diamond/titan blood in styx and a good end

[honest kernel]

^

Outside of that, you'll likely want the Tartarus Midshop, since it's often paired with a minor reward room

[true fable]

let me put it this way kemical

[honest kernel]

So might as well get the benefit of that

[true fable]

starting with 100 gold means you can probably farm enemies / urns to get a boon at tartarus, as baj mentioned

that one boon may be a huge difference maker, and its with you for the entire run (barring UC/it being useless)

on the other hand a boon you buy with styx shop is with you for at most 1 biome

both the same price, vastly different value

[true ridge]

interesting

[true fable]

when i'm speedrunning i dont go into styx shop at all

unless im a coward and need to buy health on 32 heat

sorry i meant styx shop

[true ridge]

but yeah, like i said. i have heard a lot of people use aphrodite and artemis to take out theseus

[true fable]

?

what do you mean by that

[true ridge]

like they take out him first by attacking him till he channels the gods, then use a greater call to kill him instantly

[true fable]

i see

yeah that's a good strat

[true ridge]

here i go... im a bit nervous

[true fable]

good luck!

[true ridge]

poms go to special primarily?

[true fable]

yeah or attack once your special reaches a certain point

also pomming zeus secondary boons is usually pretty strong

[tidal flame]

Any high heat development today?

[true fable]

tailesque got 57 i think

[tidal flame]

Rama?

Oh hey Baj got 57

[true fable]

oh yeah

tailesque also got a 45 mirrorless

not to toot my own horn but i got zag bow 32 nbd

[true ridge]

is there really much worth getting from Poseidon?

for my run

[honest kernel]

Dash, Cast and Call are good all around. Shield doesn't really want a Poseidon attack or special

[true fable]

depends on whether you like splash dash

[honest kernel]

Hydraulic Might is also decent

That's about it for the most part

If you don't already have one of his core boons

[true ridge]

alright, what about Demeter?

[true fable]

demeter can be quite good

retrash's 45 heat setup in victory boasting can work

chaos is one of the few weapons that can really make cold fusion work

mostly you just want zeus boons though

Jolted/double strike and the legendary are obviously all good

billowing is really good if you have a call

[true ridge]

well i got ravenous will, nourished soul, and crystal beam

[true fable]

rav will is quite good

depending on rarity

her attack is ok

[honest kernel]

Demeter's cool, assuming you don't have Lasting Consequences maxed or something

On shield attack it's decent too

[unreal pasture]

demeter's cool

[honest kernel]

...

I swear I did not intend that

[true ridge]

I cant believe that i did it

[tidal flame]

Intend your puns, coward

[true fable]

congrats shell

now go for 17

[ripe crane]

Nice! Imo double your heat every day until you get at least 33

[true ridge]

well, that would be tomorrow

i could try seventeen

i do kinda want to try out the aspect of beowulf though

also, i couldn't have done it without you guys

[true fable]

do try beowulf

highly recommend

it is my favorite aspect in the game

[north dove]

I'm so bad with cast beowulf

[true fable]

its fine if you're good at charged flight beowulf

i need to watch your run retrash

dont know how to do anything besides cast wulf

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, that's just kinda what @daring hedge does. If you do a 57 WR, he'll do it the same day in 7 tries, and all you'll hear is, "Wow, Tailesque did 57 in only 7 tries. He's the best." If you make it to EM3 at 45 Heat mirrorless and are fool enough to post about it, he'll do 46 mirrorless first try, and all you'll hear is, "Wow, Tailesque did 46 mirrorless. He's the best." No, "Good job, Baj. You did so well beating 57." No, "Good job, Nyaanyaa. You made it to EM3 at 45 mirrorless, you'll get 'em next time." He reaps all the praise for our ideas.

We've been barrel-rolled.

[true fable]

LOOOOOOL

[mossy zinc]

That's what this is.

[true fable]

can we pin that

[daring hedge]

this is slander i praised your accomplishments

[true fable]

anytime tailesque one ups someone "you've been barrel-rolled"

also just watching retrash's beowulf clear

tempest flourish kind of wrecks shop tbh

coin purse start is also an intriguing idea

just try to break the economy early

how often do yall take erebus gates on 45+?

[mossy zinc]

You and no one else.

Depends on aspect.

Probably not at all with Malphon.

Any time I want the reward with Rama or Hestia.

[daring hedge]

if it's a 50 heart in tartarus or asphodel, i'll almost always take it unless i really need a particular boon at the same junction

[mossy zinc]

Definitely any time if I don't care for the reward in the regular chambers anyway.

[daring hedge]

pretty much never take elysium gates at heat that high though, the variance of shenanigans that lies in there is way too much

[true fable]

yup that makes sense

what about the double obol

[mossy zinc]

I almost always ignore that.

[true fable]

its kinda funny to me how good beowulf is at 32-45 heat before dropping off the face of the earth

[daring hedge]

yeah i tend to ignore the 200 obol, but usually it's because it's that versus a free boon or heart from regular chambers

[true fable]

i see

free boon?

[daring hedge]

well i guess not free lol, bad wording on my part

encounter boon

[true fable]

ok

[daring hedge]

since you can also just forfeit the obols and get

[true fable]

who doesnt want onions

theyre nutritious

it'd be kinda funny if they healed you through LC

its amazing how far 150 starting obols go

retrash left tartarus with like 7 boons in his beowulf clear

all off a coin purse start

[daring hedge]

now you need to do that with a cast beo

[true fable]

😦 the prospect of rolling through AP2 for trippy flare makes me want to vomit

LOL

think i want to push up in heat with rama or zag shield but my mechanics on rama are a bit bad

[daring hedge]

hey what if hard labor went back to vicious torment https://puu.sh/GUqgj/d7679995a9.jpg

[mossy zinc]

It's all good! Without having watched your runs just going by your comments, you're probably disregarding the Special and only using half your toolset. You're also probably too dead set on making one particular cast work instead of learning all of the builds that are doable and making the most out of all of the hammers. I think AP2 would help you a lot at becoming a better Beowulf player because it forces you to learn how to make the most of what you get as well as to better gauge what boons a god can actually give you at any moment that are useful and whether it's worth going for them over other potential rewards. All that kinda stuff.

[mossy zinc]

I legit think you shouldn't start Rama below 40 lol.

[true fable]

wot

that looks like quite a lot of suffering boyo

[daring hedge]

it was and the strategy for high high was just constant shield bullrushing to avoid taking damage

[true fable]

LOL

nyaanyaa what do you mean not start rama below 40?

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge is there anybody else who plays high heat now who's played for as long as you have?

[daring hedge]

deflect on attack, and deadly reversal could proc from blocking

[true fable]

i did rama 40 but havent tried above that

DUDE

[mossy zinc]

I mean if you learn Rama, start at 40 Heat minimum.

[true fable]

DR proccing on deflect

or on block

[mossy zinc]

Obviously only applies to high-heat players.

[true fable]

would be so sick

for beowulf

[daring hedge]

there was at least one other player who did high heat back in those days but i can't recall who they were

[true fable]

i am so sick of getting scammed out of cast crits by pressure points

[daring hedge]

high heat being 120 and up, where 120 was the 32 equivalent

[true fable]

how early are we talking

is this like nighty night

[daring hedge]

waaaay earlier

like before styx was added as a zone early

no aspects, just base weapons

[true fable]

oh shoot

lol

the amazing thing is that you stuck with this game

even though you had to play zagspects for a year

[daring hedge]

lol

i didn't know what i was missing out on until they were introduced

[true fable]

it also seems like retrash's blade dash methods are passing down into speedrunning lol

which i both love and hate

[mossy zinc]

Tailesque started Hades for over a year before I did and was already doing high heat before I even did my first run.

[true fable]

a true vet

[daring hedge]

hugely prefer how high heat works now... back in the day with +500% HL and no TD, runs just took a million years

and DDs were super broken

[true fable]

why would +500% damage be a good idea

that sounds terrible

do lancers just one shot you

[mossy zinc]

Most of the base game that you see now was already there when I started in Welcome to Hell.

[daring hedge]

yeah, the champs fight was just like, if theseus hits you with his spear you take 140 damage

[true fable]

imagine taking a full volley from tartarus witches and straight dying

actually that still happens

nvm carry on

[mossy zinc]

I think the pact was also already reworked to be mostly what it is now with 32 Heat for the last Skelly prize etc.

[daring hedge]

yeah i think that's right

used to be 30/60/120 for the statues before welcome to hell i believe

and i'm very thankful they tossed the idea of heat being a resource

[true fable]

what did JS used to be, 300x foes?

or +300% foes?

[edgy arrow]

those are very different lmao

[daring hedge]

i can't remember the max but it was in smaller increments of like 5% and probably capped around current JS? maybe a little higher

and instead of routine inspection, there was stifling darkness, where you'd put a cap on your own darkness that you could put into the mirror

[true fable]

i meant the second one and was too lazy to edit

that still sounds quite bad

[daring hedge]

it definitely was, this was what my mirror looked like after max stifling https://i.imgur.com/i2YURXP.jpeg

you basically get DDs and your dash, nothing else

[true fable]

no green mirror back then im guessing?

or did you just like the fun priv stat sounds

[daring hedge]

yeah no green mirror yet then

[true fable]

lol

i found the drunken strike hades spear vod btw

and nyaanyaas 52 heat beowulf soundtracked by chris huelsbeck

how often do you actually use min-charge shots on rama actually?

feels like im losing a lot of time powershotting things in tart

[daring hedge]

yeah you only need power shot in tartarus for like, wringers, louts, bruisers

or just hitting things far away like a witch, then spreading the power shot damage to other enemies with shared suffering

[true fable]

also nyaanyaa i still dont really trust beowulf special but i will try using it more

[mossy zinc]

Of course my first video game WR had to be scored by my favorite childhood video game. Well, technically second because I did Malphon 41 WR before but that was like just weapon specific, not the overall WR.

Chris Hülsbeck power-up is real.

[true fable]

oh was 52 previous wr?

[mossy zinc]

Yep.

[true fable]

kind of gaming

[mossy zinc]

Tailesque hadn't done 50+ at the time.

He was still learning the game.

Better times where WRs would last about a week at least.

Well.

haelian's 51 didn't last a week thanks to me.

[zealous ferry]

Can i ask, is forced overtime worse than benefits package?

[mossy zinc]

I think so.

[zealous ferry]

Im struggling at like 20heat rn but i think its bc i took max forced overtime

[mossy zinc]

When I just want easy pacts for 32 Heat, I don't take FO at all.

[zealous ferry]

What are some easy pacts for 32?

Do u do em 4?

[daring hedge]

if you want to push higher heat, i'd recommend getting used to FO, but if you just want a 20 clear, yeah, turning it off makes things a lot easier

[mossy zinc]

But if you want to practice for much higher heats at some point, FO2 is good practice.

I actually wouldn't take EM4 until well in the 50s.

[zealous ferry]

Im just trying yo clear 20ish clears haha

Hmmm what do yall usually take?

[mossy zinc]

I've been taking something like this a lot. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/783419863493640234/Hades_1181.png?width=791&height=445 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/782268720479207474/Hades_1177.png?width=791&height=445

[daring hedge]

hey NO

[mossy zinc]

But it's true. He asked what I usually take.

[daring hedge]

lmao

[zealous ferry]

Hmmmm well thats certainly not easy

But i can see how its easier than my current set

[daring hedge]

routine inspection can be avoided completely until like, 50 heat really

this is just nyaanyaa flexing

[mossy zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/776512601953796127/Hades_1146.png?width=791&height=445

[zealous ferry]

If u take 100% lasting consequences u dony heal at all?

[true fable]

nyaanyaa stop bullying the newcomers

[mossy zinc]

I think this is a pretty easy pact for 32 Heat.

Stubborn Defiance will circumvent the lack of healing.

[zealous ferry]

I would never take routine inspection

[true fable]

good lad

[zealous ferry]

Damn dont flex on me :')

[mossy zinc]

My first two screenshots have maxed-out Routine Inspection if you didn't notice.

[zealous ferry]

Ya so u just dont heal???

[true fable]

yeah LC4 is only really a consideration at 32 heat

yeah you usually take stubborn defiances to "heal"

[zealous ferry]

Ohhhh

[true fable]

but you dont need to do that at 20 heat

[zealous ferry]

Eventually i need to get to 32

[true fable]

super bad pacts to avoid are EM4, CP, and AP

[zealous ferry]

Yeah i dont take those

[waxen relic]

If take the first two and the last off of the screenshot above you'll get an easy 20 heat

[true fable]

FO2 can be rough but as mentioned you kind of have to get used to it

[daring hedge]

damage control can be pretty free on certain aspects

[true fable]

if you want to do 32+ at any point

[daring hedge]

and a huge pain on others

[true fable]

yeah like arthur

and beowulf shakes fist at sky

[zealous ferry]

Im fine with FO2 but should i change it out for BP?

[daring hedge]

literally got 48 heat with arthur when i could have done 50 because i just refused to take DC

[true fable]

wait i thought you got 46

[daring hedge]

oh yeah i did 48 but never uploaded

[true fable]

ohhhh

nice

yeah pyrocatic i would if youre just trying to clear

[zealous ferry]

Alright then

[true fable]

for me now going from FO2 on high heat to FO1 for speedrunning is like taking off the training weights

[daring hedge]

#h1-victory-boasting message the build was... bad

[true fable]

it's so much easier to survive

[dire steppe]

fo0 gang

[zealous ferry]

Lmaoo

[true fable]

oh lordy

i looked at that, saw aphro zeus and thought oh at least he has smoldering air

nope

[zealous ferry]

I was wondering, can u get smoldering air with hades call?

[mossy zinc]

FO0 is just playing the game in slow motion.

You can't.

[true fable]

you can but its not as useful as it used to be

[zealous ferry]

Ohhhh i tried once but couldnt get it

[daring hedge]

you have to get smoldering air, sell call, equip sigil

[zealous ferry]

Damn

So technically u can but u need another call first

[waxen relic]

Does it even work with the recent nerf?

[true fable]

it does

but define work

it locks you at 25%

so you never reach lesser call

let me rephrase

[waxen relic]

So not in my definition

[true fable]

its not "less useful"

its useless now

yeah i guess not

tailesque looking at that build

thats a whole lot of damage reduction ya got there boyo

[zealous ferry]

So lemme get this right, hades call just makes u invisible but not immune to dmg, and a 25% boost in dmg for the next time u strike an enemy within 2s?

[true fable]

no

100% boost in damage for 1.5 seconds

regardless of when you strike

its huge

[zealous ferry]

Oh but what about the invisibility thing

[true fable]

but thats why they nerfed to 2 stocks

[daring hedge]

true but my damage felt nonexistent except against armored enemies lol

[true fable]

the invis isnt really important tbh but its to first strike on lesser call and for 5 s on greater call

[true fable]

yeah i can imagine. true battle of attrition vs dad huh

[zealous ferry]

I only found hades call somewhat usefull on hades spear

[daring hedge]

exactly

[zealous ferry]

I dont see it useful on others

[true fable]

its still really really good on eris and fists

[daring hedge]

it used to be amazing

[true fable]

since they build call insanely fast

[daring hedge]

and now yeah, little more niche

[zealous ferry]

Oh yeah eris and fists

[true fable]

it used to be a straight gamebreaking keepsake

[daring hedge]

i remember when bablo first broke it out and everyone was like huh what why

and now here we are

[true fable]

i bet every run in the top 100 on srcom from 1.0 has it in elysium and styx

and maybe half of them have it on in asphodel

yeah bablo's a g for sharing that one

[mossy zinc]

It turns any aspect into Eris for 1.5 seconds, so that's pretty good.

[misty hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784720558877179914/50zagspear.png?width=1249&height=702

this run sucked 🙂

[mossy zinc]

Congratulations!

[misty hamlet]

thanks 🙂

i for the life of me cannot figure out how to use this weapon at high heat with td3

[mossy zinc]

When in doubt, Merciful End.

[misty hamlet]

oh yeah! I also recorded this one

though I had other stuff open and playing sound while I was going

so I may do it muted and talk over it so it's not boring if I upload it somewhere

[mossy zinc]

Nice! One for the leaderboards.

[trim sigil]

I'm in doubt how to make dc2 arthur work

[rain sedge]

sword high heat sounds too painful tbh

[crystal iron]

merciful end

[mossy zinc]

Errr . . . Double Edge ME?

Easy peasy. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784732289128726568/Hades_1212.png?width=791&height=445

[trim sigil]

tbh if not for dc2 and fo2 arthur definitely makes most of it a breeze

[mossy zinc]

So turn on everything but FO and DC?

[trim sigil]

(and RI because no one turns on RI)

[mossy zinc]

RI4 32 with Excalibur was kinda free.

Well, timer was a little closer than I would have liked, but I think I got a 3 sack? I don't remember.

[trim sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/769658175954878494/20201024232505_1.jpg well, there is pretty much all but also no AP

And some of RI may have worked so

[mossy zinc]

RI2 might have worked, yeah.

I think Stygius 40+ is miserable.

[gaunt fiber]

Amazing work Nyaanyaa

[mossy zinc]

That was only 32 Heat . . .

[gaunt fiber]

You are so good I can't find my words

[mossy zinc]

Of course.

[rough cypress]

Is your spreadsheet a good source to learn weapon/boon combos? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fYeJpxFXZBO2UycHOz4qt90T3ZurFZKCtg07UQNZVyc/edit#gid=1880723554 I'm at low heat at the moment, already did my 32heat clear but want to farm up the mats to upgrade my weapons now

[rain sedge]

had literally the most boring run

zag spear with exploding launcher

just pressing special button from start to finish

with veeery mediocre damage that cant be increased

hardly can keep myself awake

[wraith imp]

that's pretty much how i play with all the spears on high heat. sometimes gets interesting if i get serrated points plus some dash attack boons from chaos. otherwise, it's a snoozefest.

[mossy zinc]

Sure.

Just be mindful of the fact that sometimes builds are for specific problems.

Like Drunken Strike on an aspect to handle DC2 etc.

So they're not always optimal for low heat.

And at like 50+, "builds" are really just one core boon you hope for and any scraps you pick up along the way.

Any heat speedruns would show you optimal builds for bounty heats.

[rough cypress]

thank you 🙂

[misty hamlet]

you'll also find that sometimes things are better at high heat precisely because they solve a challenge you don't face at lower heat

[gaunt fiber]

like dying

[misty hamlet]

🙂

death calls to you

embrace it

[gaunt fiber]

I do take my part thanks lol

[misty hamlet]

👍

but yeah, dashes that normally don't get much love, like blade dash and hangover dash, will singlehandedly defeat a room that could totally annihilate you

like an ugly room full of BP2, DC2, FO2 elite numbskulls

[rain sedge]

is hangover dash ever good tho, it's 2 damage per hangover at common

[trim sigil]

It's not (:

[misty hamlet]

hangover dash is great!

at least, when you have to spend a lot of time running from things

it's certainly better now that it can be a prereq for blackout

[mossy zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784764438502440970/Hades_1215.png?width=791&height=445

https://imgur.com/a/bE1NeCo https://imgur.com/a/WOsoazV

Looks pretty nice now. Only 5 to go.

[gaunt fiber]

Breathtaking.

[mossy zinc]

Of course.

[rain sedge]

didnt wobbles do all aspects 45?

[mossy zinc]

Yes.

[rain sedge]

what a god

[mossy zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784775012741545984/Hades_1218.png?width=791&height=445 https://imgur.com/a/qZwJpEg

Woo.

[proud jay]

conc beam

if only zeus attack didn't do tons of aoe damage

[mossy zinc]

Concentrated Beam is good for Heartbreak Strike, no?

[rain sedge]

Is that better than Zeus attack?

[mossy zinc]

Of course it's better. It's pink, and you get to see Lady Aphrodite.

[rain sedge]

Anyone have a Nvidia gtx 3080 and want a free cod cold war? I got one for free and don't need it

Is this sort of "giveaway" even allowed here

[clever otter]

maybe in #off-topic-discussion or #video-games?

[hollow lynx]

the best part of aphro luci is that you get to roleplay as a brimstone

[rain sedge]

Will post it there, thank you Alma!

[true fable]

i still like dio attack luci a lot

low tolerance/splitting headache are very logical to get on it

[mossy zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784809059567271957/Hades_1223.png?width=791&height=445

Woo.

[true fable]

flurry jab

just hold down attack to win game

[mossy zinc]

Smoldering Air chamber 4. Alright then.
Flurry Jab chamber 5.

Another successful Lady Aphrodite build.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630312677855461377/774519226211762206/772250944590839808.gif

[true fable]

how were you critting? true shot?

[mossy zinc]

I wasn't lol.

[true fable]

lol

classic

[mossy zinc]

Zeus, Zag Rail, Zag Sword.

Everything else is done.

[true fable]

i feel like i literally just did smoldering air second wind builds for weapons i didnt like tbh

dodge is the new crutch for me

zag rail was surprisingly easy

[mossy zinc]

Ugh. I hate how he says "Should check the garden" when it's way too late, and then whatever convo is there is no longer there.

[true fable]

just budget eris

yes me too

[gaunt fiber]

time loop

[mossy zinc]

I checked the garden every run except this time, and of course this time he says "Should check the garden."

...

[true fable]

i did zeus attack because i was still streaking at that point and didnt want to bet on spread fire

so the game gave me spread fire start

[mossy zinc]

They're all easy. Just gotta figure out how to make Lady Aphrodite builds work on everything. 💗

[true fable]

my solution is always just smoldering air go brrrr

[mossy zinc]

Spread Fire chamber 1. I figured out how to make Heartbreak Strike work on this.

[true fable]

heartbreak strike should be one of the better ones for it, no?

[mossy zinc]

Yes.

Heartbreak Strike or Deadly Strike.

Obviously Heartbreak Strike is the better one.

[mossy zinc]

See? Best. 💗 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784819394542043196/Hades_1224.png?width=791&height=445

[ripe crane]

Is it even possible to lose when you have the power of love?

[mossy zinc]

Apparently it is if I play Zeus Aspect. I need to do better this time.

[true fable]

just go heart rend right

[bronze viper]

@daring hedge Congrats on 57!

[mossy zinc]

Baj, too. Baj did 57 first.

[rain sedge]

Hello ledger

How's the magic eye?

[mossy zinc]

The answer was more Lady Aphrodite boons. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/784837243701035078/Hades_1228.png?width=791&height=445

[true fable]

your devotion is admirable

[mossy zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630312677855461377/774519226211762206/772250944590839808.gif

Only one left. I'll do that one tomorrow maybe. https://imgur.com/a/bmChcrK

[hollow lynx]

do it with the cursed flurry meme

[mossy zinc]

I dunno whatever I happen to get lol.

Heartbreak Strike of course.

[bronze viper]

@rain sedge Second surgery this Monday, then I have to wait a month for my prescription to settle/change so I can get glasses.

@mossy zinc Who is Baj? Someone new or someone who came back from before I played?

[honest kernel]

Was basically a lurker in like the update before the long winter update

Didn't get much higher than 32 heat

But when 1.0 came, I started to push the heat higher

I wasn't really notorious back then, so yeah

[rain sedge]

your new king 👑

[rain sedge]

good luck!

[bronze viper]

That's really cool though, congratulations!

@rain sedge Thanks 😛 Can't wait to be able to get back to the grind.

[fading star]

Alright, 44 heat Zag twin fists, Hell Mode, KB/M, no aim assist is done! Woohoo!

Only a matter of time before I get that 50 heat win with these settings!

[true fable]

we're excited for you to return ledger

best of luck with the cybernetic eyes

@fading star a dodge build?

[fading star]

I tried to do a dodge build and it was fine until I got to Hades where he seemed to not care that I had nearly 50% dodge and just smacked me around until I went poof

[true fable]

LOL the classic

dodge rng seems to fail when you need it most

just like crit rng

i do want to keep trying zag fists though

[fading star]

I was mostly testing Zeus attack vs Dionysus attack because I keep feeling like Zeus starts STUPIDLY strong and then wanes later and Dio is the opposite

[true fable]

32 heat zag fists was fun

i feel like dio attack would have some pitiful boss damage unless you get some duos though no?

classic deadly reversal build may be the move tbh

maximum safety

i was testing DR fists yesterday and it still feels stupid stronk

[fading star]

Well, the thing with Dio is damage uptime. Aside from Killing Freeze Demeter and Ares' Agony/Pain it is the only damage overtime

Where I think that is strong is where you have to dip-duck-and dodge on bosses and you can't attack

Now, with Hades, the problem is when the bastard goes invisible and wipes his debuffs

Grrrr

[true fable]

true true

hmm

[daring hedge]

same with sack rng 😔

[true fable]

i honestly dont think it matters what you get on attack if you end up with second wind + greater evasion

[true fable]

dude yes

[fading star]

OMG, I had such a great run and lost because I had to literally do a full clear...

[true fable]

entering styx with5-6 mins on timer

always a pit in my stomach

knowing im gonna get 4+ sack

[daring hedge]

there were so many "ah this boonless run is going great" moments where styx just said hey what if you actually got a five sack

[ripe crane]

I feel like I get 2sack 90% of the time. idk what y'all are doing

[fading star]

Game is likely hardcoded to hate my soul

[true fable]

true just pick the tunnel with the sack guys

its not that complicated

[rain sedge]

TBH I feel that you getting 5 sacced sucks worse than me

[rain sedge]

crepes stop

you know crepes

I was gonna do 53 rail because I thought that'd made me the highest rail clearer

and you had to do a cute 56 hestia

these days seems like people won't even read clears below 50 heat 😦

[bronze python]

Are there places in Elysium where you can kill yourself after a stage is over to heal from stubborn defiance

Just the bombs right

[waxen relic]

Troves and Eggs

[honest kernel]

Troves

That's actually smart what the hell

[ripe crane]

Yeah I've never thought of that

[honest kernel]

But yeah, Eggs, Troves and that's about it

[bronze python]

I've been doing that in asophodel every time lol

Like i just stand in lava and go to the next stage

[waxen relic]

you guys never suicided with troves?

[honest kernel]

Nope

Never bothered with troves with TD3 active

[ripe crane]

Takes too much TIME

[waxen relic]

true

[true fable]

troves slow

at least you can just die and then leave

[mossy zinc]

@fading star congratulations! Make sure you submit the run to the leaderboard.

[honest kernel]

What did Resq do

I missed it

[true fable]

44 zag fists?

[honest kernel]

noice

[true fable]

when nyaanyaa doesnt ask you to submit your 45 beowulf

[mossy zinc]

Alright, 44 heat Zag twin fists, Hell Mode, KB/M, no aim assist is done! Woohoo!

[true fable]

its fine it's not recorded anyway

[rain sedge]

troves give you a bit more HP now and way more HP later when you get >2sacced and TD eats 5 HP per seconds

[mossy zinc]

45 < 52

[rain sedge]

where is the best place to buy hades on PC?

[true fable]

steam

imo

[rain sedge]

alright, here comes 53 rail

[true fable]

epic has some weird stuff goin on sometimes

[rain sedge]

20 pounds....

[tidal flame]

Yeaj go for Steam

Or wait like a year or two for GOG release if ypu want drm free

[rain sedge]

what's DRM?

[tidal flame]

Basically when you buy a game on steam, you don't "own" the game, you "own" the right to play it.

For drm free copies, in some sense you have more ownership

But for most people, it doesn't matter.

Go buy on Steam if you want the game (and achievement). There is no discernable difference, really.

[fading star]

Is 44 heat even considered high heat? I figured my ugly mug shouldn't appear on any leaderboard until I get to the ripe age of 50

[rain sedge]

do I want to spend 20 pounds for a game that for all intent and purposes I have already completed, just so I can record my high run for some imaginary internet clout?

[fading star]

Did I say age, I meant heat

I'm not old

[rain sedge]

leaderboard is pinned if you wanna see

[shy plinth]

A 44 would currently be 44th place

You have to do it

It's too perfect

Okay 41st I miscounted

But still, submit it for sure!

[gaunt fiber]

Yes

[true fable]

44 is 44th place??? for 1.0?

quite a few gamers out there

[shy plinth]

7 players in the top 40 spots

[mossy zinc]

^

[true fable]

@shy plinth is there a way to add a resources tab for something like a maxed hell mode save

[shy plinth]

If you have a link to one I can add it assuming Nyaa and Tail are cool with it

[mossy zinc]

For some reason I mess up anytime I record something higher than 40 in 1.0 lol. 45 I think I forgot to hit record, and 46 I recorded the wrong source, so there was only a black screen and no audio.

[true fable]

i think retrash or resqtoaster have them

[mossy zinc]

Tailesque and I both wouldn't use somebody else's save file, but if there's interest, sure. I don't mind. Just makes it easier for people to share, they'd probably do that anyway just through other means.

[true fable]

im interested in it

[mossy zinc]

@fading star has a max hell mode save, yeah.

[true fable]

its just too much work to grind HM and try to do stuff on normal mode too

[fading star]

Yeah, I just need to know how to upload to speedrun.com and everyone can have it

[tidal flame]

have you reached out to jerds?

[honest kernel]

Pretty sure Retrash sent his savefile to Bablo

So that he could add it in there too

[true fable]

oh gotcha

nvm then im dumb

[fading star]

I thought Retrash said he needed to finish shield?

[honest kernel]

According to what he said in Bablo's stream, he was actually done with everything

You could still do it

But yeah

[fading star]

Oh it doesn't matter to me who does it so long as people get what they need. He just wrote in yesterday night that he didn't have it done.

[rain sedge]

did you see the crepes method of adding PL?

[honest kernel]

🤷‍♂️

I saw

[rain sedge]

if you just want PL enabled

@true fable did you see this

[honest kernel]

Don't want to mess too much with savefiles because of legitimacy issues

And whatnot

[fading star]

hehehe, no worries. It'll get uploaded soon regardless

[true fable]

yeah i saw that but i dont want to have to reset my save if i want to do anyheat/3 weaps

id like to have 1 file i can speedrun on and another where i can do high heat stuff, ideally

[rain sedge]

why dont you duplicate the save?

if I understand correctly it just gives the ability to turn on/off PL?

[mossy zinc]

[fading star]

You are also required to have 1 point into HL, LC, JS, CP, PL

For speedrunners, that is a big deal

[honest kernel]

It's not like a mod or anything, it's literally going in the savefile and modifying certain parameters

[rain sedge]

oh I see

well then just duplicate the savefile

[mossy zinc]

Well, modifying parameters is a mod lol.

[honest kernel]

And as Resq said, it's only really useful if you want all the heat you can get

[mossy zinc]

It's just that you do the modding yourself.

[rain sedge]

idk why I'm so invested in it, I have literally no horse in this race since I'm a switch pleb lol

[honest kernel]

Does it count as such ?

Hmm

[tidal flame]

If it acts like a Hell Mode, plays like a Hell Mode, it's a Hell Mode save

something something walk like a duck quack like a duck

[honest kernel]

But it's like

how do I prove it's the only modification I did to the savefile

[gaunt fiber]

[mossy zinc]

That goes for every run, though, whether they have the PL mod or not.

[rain sedge]

as I said you can't prove you haven't modified your game to 2 sac every time

[tidal flame]

I mean it's hard to verify any of the official speedrun either. The speedrun mods are well aware that if people want to seed, they still can even with the one death thing

[rain sedge]

which by god I would clear 50 heat with every zag aspect if I could get that on switch

[mossy zinc]

I'll just say I don't think any run that has PL without at minimum HL1 LC1 JS1 CP1 should be considered a legal run since that's not something you can normally do in the game.

[true fable]

afaik theres only been one run rejected because the person was blatantly cheating

[honest kernel]

What was he doing lol

or they, rather

[true fable]

it was a very obviously spliced run

[honest kernel]

lmao

[ripe crane]

You're not changing your save files at all to enable PL btw

[true fable]

but does it force the usual 5 heat?

[honest kernel]

^

[true fable]

because if not that seems like a mod to me

[rain sedge]

I feel like at the point you want PL and leaderboard you must have enabled that 5 heats already

[ripe crane]

Obviously you have to turn all of the hell mode requirements on

[honest kernel]

If you can technically dissallow the heat and have the run bug on you, that's not normal behaviour

[true fable]

true, but this is more about the principle of the thing tm

[honest kernel]

^

[tidal flame]

isn't there a boon in the end game screen that shows hell mode?

or is that god mode?

must be god mode

[rain sedge]

I've seen that with god mode

idk hell mode

[honest kernel]

God mode would be my guess

Hell Mode doesn't have anything like that

[tidal flame]

yeah because i don't recall that in my own hell runs anyway.

nvm that

[shy plinth]

Hell mode does not have an icon

Though the PL icon is on the top

[mossy zinc]

God Mode will be very obvious lol.

[honest kernel]

"Didn't get oneshot by the urns, eh ?"

[tidal flame]

change dash i frames to 5 seconds

[honest kernel]

Give yourself a billion Bouldy boons

[mossy zinc]

You only need Ambiguity Bonus.

[rain sedge]

you could seed, you could mod, there's few ways other than integrity to prevent cheaters at this kind of game

[true fable]

verifiers help for that

unseeded is easy to require

[rain sedge]

yea but you cant verify things like modding

[true fable]

well, depends on the mod

but thats why theres a strict no mods rule

[rain sedge]

apparently this is possible

[true fable]

if theres any evidence of mods at all, who's to say you didnt mod everything

true but something like routing, for example, would be super obvious

if someone wants to seed dedge start with nem it kinda is what it is

but if they roll three times in a chamber 4 well for 3 lights and cast twice before exiting chamber 5 we know somethings up

[fading star]

Okay, Wriste got the file on speedrun so you can have Hell Mode now

[true fable]

pog

gonna need that PL if im gonna push 33 heat

[fading star]

I don't think it saves the setting for no aim assist but uh, just be aware just in case

[rain sedge]

whats your highest heat anyway bright

[true fable]

so do we know if that means any rule changes

[rain sedge]

did you do 50 beo?

[true fable]

45 on beo

[rain sedge]

go do 50 with EM4

[true fable]

i did 45 with EM4

[rain sedge]

WeirdChamp

why?

[true fable]

only heats left to take are CF2/RI/TD3 i think

all of which make beowulf significantly less fun for me

[rain sedge]

you didn't turn on CF2???

what why

[true fable]

beowulf gobbles up boons

at least the build i like to use

[rain sedge]

I thought the build just need chaos boon, dio cast, and some poms

[true fable]

you need like 2 duos and four prereqs before elysium

[rain sedge]

what on earth

[true fable]

mirage shot can be make or break

[rain sedge]

hmm true

[true fable]

oh also no AP

i deleted that pact from my mind

i might do more high heat once i get a better pc

which is in the next two weeks

but high heat is harder to record than anyheat since i can only record one run at a time

and you cant really "choose" when you die on high heat

[gaunt fiber]

https://imgur.com/oi85G5b

setup amazing

no charged skewer goodbye world

[true fable]

well youve definitely cursed it now

[mossy zinc]

That's what Anvils are for.

[gaunt fiber]

hopes

magnificent

Quick spin winged serpent flaring spin

[true fable]

lol

we're taking flight

[mossy zinc]

With Divine Strike that's kinda good.

[honest kernel]

Insert Vinesauce speen meme

[main delta]

ahhhh i made it to Hades for the first time for 50 heat

explosive shot totally screwed me over i think

[honest kernel]

Made it all the way to Hades with Explosive Shot

Hot damn

[main delta]

i got divine protection at the styx shop which helped a bit

but it wasnt enough

[tidal flame]

twin or triple?

[rain sedge]

what's explosive shot? is it the spear 50 base damage thingy?

[tidal flame]

or neither?

[rain sedge]

isnt that good

[honest kernel]

Bow hammer

[tidal flame]

if neither twin or triple and you made it to hades on 50

that's really good

[honest kernel]

Makes the attack super slow, but it explodes and deals +300% damage

Trying that with FO2 is, uh, real hard

[tidal flame]

it feels bad, idk why

[rain sedge]

no other bow other than chiron exist for me

[tidal flame]

it just does

[gaunt fiber]

This was a spin run yeah, just not fast enough

[mossy zinc]

Consider swapping to TD2.

[true fable]

td2 is such a leisurely stroll

retrash's brain is huge

[gaunt fiber]

I want to know what EM4 TD3 clear feels like

Anyway TD3... :)

[main delta]

oh fox i got really lucky besides the explosive shot

no fast shooting archers

[true fable]

the explosive shot is already one hell of an unlucky

[main delta]

and patty and a bunch of touches of styx

[true fable]

did you ... choose it?

[main delta]

i got explosive shot in elysium and point blank in tartarus

ap2

[true fable]

ah ok

[daring hedge]

oof

[true fable]

yeah i was worried for a sec

[main delta]

its whatever, at least now i know i can get to hades if i get luckier

[true fable]

anyone who voluntarily chooses explosive shot is either trolling or has lost their grip on sanity

[main delta]

i remember trying it out with triple shot when i first unlocked rama

[daring hedge]

people really used to advocate for explosive on rama because "it's already so slow it's not like you should go for power shots :)"

[main delta]

LOL

[true fable]

lmfao

tailesque i have an idea for yt content if youre up for it

[main delta]

also does swift strike not affect dash strike speed for bow?

[daring hedge]

it does not

[true fable]

it does not

[main delta]

interesting

[daring hedge]

hit me bright

[true fable]

ninjad

um

so the idea

is to take hourglass into elysium

and one shot minotaur by stacking stygian shards

since they stack multiplicatively

[main delta]

wtf

would eris increase trap damage?

[daring hedge]

this idea just makes me miss the chaos trap damage blessing

rip

[true fable]

eris does not

[main delta]

gilga?

[true fable]

gilga should since its an enemy side debuff

but i hesitate to say anything about this game that i havent tested

because lol blinding flash flashbacks

[rain sedge]

what trap will minotaur take?

I dont remember a trap in that room

[main delta]

the miniboss room has statues

[true fable]

^

[mossy zinc]

That was before buffs, though.

[true fable]

the regen'ing phoenix statues count as traps

[rain sedge]

what

and it damages him?

[daring hedge]

it was also after buffs

[main delta]

yea

[true fable]

so if he runs into one of those with 3+ styg shards he could one shot himself

[rain sedge]

o.Oo.Oo.O

[true fable]

theoretically

[main delta]

it hits pretty hard with 1 stygian shard already

[rain sedge]

I had 300 runs or so and never noticed this

[true fable]

havent done the damage calc but it should be pretty large number

[rain sedge]

.....that being said I did my 50 clear before knowing you can stay in the middle for beams and the difference between the bomb throwers lol

[mossy zinc]

Well, it's quite natural after a patch to still go with what worked before. If it worked before, it works now lol. Should be even a bit better now than it used to be.

[main delta]

can bosses actually be damaged past their invuln phases?

[rain sedge]

I asked bablo on his stream after he did the beam thing, and he was like

"you didn't know this before??"

xD

[mossy zinc]

No.

[true fable]

mino can

[daring hedge]

works is a strong word

[true fable]

you can kill asterius miniboss

he still shows up in the boss fight though

so it doesnt really have a discernible impact

[main delta]

does he just walk away or is there a separate animation in case that happens?

[true fable]

he goes through the death animation

lol

[main delta]

wow

that's unexpected

[true fable]

there is also theoretically a furies skip

[spring kettle]

He's still in the boss fight, tho, because nothing is permanently dead in the underworld

[true fable]

but youd be hard pressed to find something in tartarus that will give you 4K+ damage

they tested it by modding 6000% shared suffering damage with rama

https://clips.twitch.tv/EncouragingResourcefulMageDatBoi

one of the most cursed hades clips ive ever seen

[main delta]

wow that's pretty weird

[daring hedge]

megaera.exe has stopped working

[hollow lynx]

rip chaos ruin 😔

it existed for like, three days, but i made so many memories with it

[daring hedge]

never forget https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/724695125355397160/20200622133929_1.jpg

[spring kettle]

Now the only thing that enhances traps on your side is the charon well item

[true fable]

holy crap thats funny

alecto fights mustve been ez af

[hollow lynx]

now imagine that, but with old shackle

old shackle was actually like, my third top pick for elysium because of how prevalent the traps are

[unreal pasture]

uuuuuuuh what. How did he oneshot Meg?

oh, ok, I read now. 6000% shared suffering

[hollow lynx]

modded the game for 6000% shared suffering to showcase theoretical fury skip

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge where is Shackle?

[daring hedge]

i had to choose between hourglass for extended shard uptime to stack more and the shackle

hourglass came out on top

[mossy zinc]

But bigger numbers.

[daring hedge]

more shards does mean bigger numbers!

[hollow lynx]

is 2100%+ damage not enough 😛

[spring kettle]

The only number that matters in the end is having your hp be one more than Hades at the end

[mossy zinc]

No, it means big numbers more often.

[mossy zinc]

No.

[true fable]

olympian favor 🥴

explain yourself 🔫

[mossy zinc]

lol Dark Foresight didn't even work in that patch.

[true fable]

oh really

F

[daring hedge]

that was when dark foresight wasn't the flip for favor and yeah, it was bad too

[hollow lynx]

besides it was only 10%

[mossy zinc]

10%*

[true fable]

also is that a curse of drowning beowulf build lol

[daring hedge]

yeah that was like one of my very first beo runs ever

[hollow lynx]

did cod even exist back then

[daring hedge]

and it turned into trap damage memes

[true fable]

love to see it

[mossy zinc]

It's a "Beowulf just got added I have no idea what m doing" build lol.

[true fable]

curse of drowning beowulf is kind of funny though

[hollow lynx]

i also see the loyalty card lol

back when people fought charon

[true fable]

50 heat loyalty card speedrun when

[mossy zinc]

Curse of Drowning had also just been added.

[hollow lynx]

loyalty card is the next step in high heat memery

[mossy zinc]

Charon fight was also new lol.

That's the Blood Price beta. Blood Price is when they added the Charon fight.

[hollow lynx]

and tail played on heats lower than 40! honestly, good times

[true fable]

i still want the asterius stygian shard skip but i'll settle for a 50 heat loyalty card speedrun

[daring hedge]

i got smacked so much by the no-telegraph oar swings back then

[main delta]

loyalty card would be possible if you took it in elysium right?

[daring hedge]

elysium is a hard sell for attempting charon because of TD3

[true fable]

you still bleed too much time on Td3 imo

yesh

[mossy zinc]

Pretty sure the only difference between then and now is that you don't do the fight.

[true fable]

and the speedrun strat is to hope for charon fight in tartarus midshop anyway

[daring hedge]

lol partially true, but when i do lower heat i can see the swings coming pretty easily now

because lower heat is where i actually bother to do it

[true fable]

the swings are quite telegraphed with FO0 imo

fo2 everything kinda goes out the door for me

[mossy zinc]

By "lower heat" do you mean sub 50?

[daring hedge]

hey i've been doing 32 speedruns ok

[true fable]

LOL

hey stop that

[daring hedge]

lmao

[true fable]

cut that out

[hollow lynx]

[true fable]

let me have this

museus is doing them too

[daring hedge]

oh i mean not like now after the recent patch

not yet

[true fable]

jk i want to push beowulf lower anyway

at least at 32 heat

[mossy zinc]

Pushing heat lower might be better for you than pushing higher, yeah.

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-laughing-lmao-gif-9271317

[true fable]

staying away from 40 heat speed until i get better at rama or new eris

TOX

[daring hedge]

nyaanyaa be nice

[true fable]

tailesque you know youre asking too much

has anyone taken charon on at 40+ though? how's it worked out

[rain sedge]

bright got the sharpnel of the nya bully bomb

yikes

[rain sedge]

if you wanna time out at TD3, be my guest

[true fable]

just for funsies though

[mossy zinc]

I've only done the fight like 5 times, I think.

[daring hedge]

pretty sure retrash fought charon in their arthur 47

[true fable]

what a gamer

[daring hedge]

just from a victory screen though, probably not uploaded

but also TD2 makes it somewhat feasible

TD3 is a hard no 99% of the time lol

[rain sedge]

taking charon is like daring a 5 sac

[true fable]

whats the difference if you get 5 sacced anyway schad?

[rain sedge]

just die to TD3 obviously

[daring hedge]

charon takes away the sack before you enter styx and puts it in the last tunnel while you're in the fourth

[true fable]

seriously

how does that guy get everywhere so fast

mans got wheels

[mossy zinc]

I think TD3 is reasonable up to like 44 and then becomes necessary again at like 55+. For most aspects, anyway.

[mossy zinc]

Actually, he got a boat.

[daring hedge]

mans got oar

[true fable]

gdi i knew that was gonna come up

you think he's buff

you think charon's jacked

he must be

[gaunt fiber]

https://imgur.com/m3dpIho

[daring hedge]

the pulse wave he uses to push you back in the fight is just him flexing

[gaunt fiber]

Perfect setup to no hit

[daring hedge]

the anti-overtime legendary

[true fable]

well

you have the victory screen then my friend?

i am afraid for astaos

[mossy zinc]

Leave him be. Astaos hasn't seen a victory screen in weeks.

Don't bully him.

[gaunt fiber]

Lmao

I think sarcasm is even worse

This will be my training save

It's a 4 sack but divine protection

[true fable]

quite the training save

[rain sedge]

training with divine protection WeirdChamp

[mossy zinc]

It's just for the mechanics lol.

Divine Protection for a training mode sounds about right actually.

[true fable]

i mean its training with divine protection and deadline expired

if something breathes on you you die

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah listen to Nyaanyaa a bit more you heretic

[rain sedge]

stockholm syndrome.jpg

[gaunt fiber]

I have 3:18 left with this 4sack

So I can't clear imo

Divine protection will buy me time to train

[mossy zinc]

It's starting to dawn on him.

[gaunt fiber]

I can clear if I get a no hit

[mossy zinc]

So you can't.

[gaunt fiber]

so it's doable

heh

2 points of view I respect yours

But I will prevail

[mossy zinc]

It's doable and you can't aren't mutually exclusive.

[gaunt fiber]

sure thing

But when I say it's doable it means I can do it

idc if it takes me 200 hours

[shy plinth]

Well 200 hours is more than 3 minutes

You gotta go faster than that

[mossy zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-laughing-lmao-gif-9271317

[gaunt fiber]

You're wrong

3 min is infinite as long as I don't get hit

[shy plinth]

😮

[rain sedge]

how many dashes are you practicing with?

[gaunt fiber]

the only problem is me aging

[shy plinth]

That's deep

[true fable]

0 dash challenge please

[gaunt fiber]

I don't know if I have 2 or 3

But I don't spam anyway

[mossy zinc]

It's good that you've finally made a practice save.

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah

otherwise my sanity would have crumbled

I'm kinda happy

One day I'll play some other aspects

[gaunt fiber]

Only thanks to you

(you're welcome)

[mossy zinc]

Of course. m the best teacher.

When I am a university professor, I'll use the same teaching style.

[rain sedge]

that's a yikes and a half of a dream job

[gaunt fiber]

Honestly

[mossy zinc]

That's my goal.

[gaunt fiber]

you just need perseverance

[rain sedge]

maybe in germany they treat you better than the UK

seems like a more civilised country

[true fable]

laughs in US adjunct professorship

or are adjuncts just a global thing now

[rain sedge]

I have no idea what that is

might be an american thing

[gaunt fiber]

It exists

[true fable]

they basically dangle tenure in front of a young professor to get them to teach more classes than a human being should have to

[spring kettle]

And for a lot less money

[rain sedge]

so the same as the UK

[true fable]

F

i guess so

[sly remnant]

https://i.imgur.com/emnSpR8.jpg

i'm gonna take a wild guess and say i should f10 this

[honest kernel]

Wait

the frick

LOL

You are immortal

[sly remnant]

except i can't leave the room

[honest kernel]

...

WHAT

[sly remnant]

i have to rip the run

i am not allowed to leave

[honest kernel]

Yeah, F10 that