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i lost one of my DDs tho
A second one would've been nice
yep i did an oopsie
But you'll get there
eh its gonna be fiiiine
38 attempts and now I don't know what to do now lol
got to the couple I think is the end of elysium today and died
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737924122289504297/992835957298561184/unknown.png
i'll just defeat bosses get some stuff
Just do some runs, if it's hard just spend another key on the mirror
ah le pain
It's been pretty hard for me
you dont wanna see mine 
doing it all over again kinda hurts tho
Yea that's why you do some runs
did you break the number counter lol
Because you might not need to
ok so
to save this i just do a run right?
if i give up immediately it should save, correct?
No
That's basically how you lose your progress

If you're in the prince chambers now just go to the courtyard
the range?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/992837052959817749/Hades_EMqDynORoq.png you'll get a save symbol like this in the top right
That's pretty much it
I don't know how to save mid game
I just fight until I die and quit the game in front of hypnos
ahah
The game saves in every room
yeah you cant save mid game i dont think
wait you can just do that?
At the start of it and at the end
just exit the game come back?
You can
You can quit at the start of rooms and at the end
i thought you had to give up to quit
And continue from there
giving up is basically as if that run never happened
ah nice
you can use the quit button right under it
oh sorry
to not mess up stats?
idk why you'd do that tho but ay ig why not
so if you give up not even the darkness is saved?
nope
nothing is saved
at all
you get the same starting seed
when you do a run again
oh cool
ok i saved now
i gotta pack some stuff now
thanks for the help everyone!
gl with the runs @tepid notch
Thanks!
Good luck too
thx
im back
i havent gotten all the rewards on ||heat 1|| yet, if i do a run on ||heat 2|| i would get new rewards right?
nope
ah
gotta full clear before getting new bounties
ah damn
thats gonna be hard haha
so lemme get this straight
if i do a full clear with 1 weapon
that opens bounties for the next heat level with only that weapon
correct
ah ok
so i can only really climb heat when i use the weapon i'd be the best at then
since i gotta finish the entire run beforehand
ah damn
i did a thing with the first heat level
where i just tried getting as far as i could with each weapon
since the bounties are reset on each one after your very first ever clear
but now i gotta clear heat 1 to get bounties to heat 2 then
ok i think i can try that
the good news is up to heat 10 basically doesn't affect the game if you're smart about it
would i need a good build to run 1 heat?
ah how so
there's a lot of basically free pacts
would the traps one be free?
i thought it was but someone claimed it wasnt really an easy one for starters
||tight deadline 1-2, extreme measures 1-2, underworld customs, benefits package 1, middle management||
stay very far away from that one
oh wow
it's awful until later on
the main problem with it is that ||dad vases are traps||
guess i just got used to it quick lol
so they go from ||30 to 150 damage||
could you explain what those are?
||dad summons green vases in his second phase||
||green pots he summons in phase 2, the ones that stun||
touch them with ||heightened security|| to instantly die
ah good stuff
not good for 1 ||heat||
the ones I listed above are good starters
||tight deadline 1-2, extreme measures 1-2, underworld customs, benefits package 1, middle management||
thx!
ill see which i can take
which one would you say to take for the very first heat?
ight lemme see
idk if i can do ||TD||, what happens if you break time?
and also is there a timer for it?
||you lose 5 hp per second until you die||
does ||EM|| do a lot or is it easy to get used to?
mind moving to #h1-discussion?
alrighty
How many times do I have to beat the game until I finish the Story?
9
Ok thank you :)
timing on hitting the button also affects the rarity of the fish
if it says normal catch is a 50/50 between normal and rare fish, perfect catch is between rare and legendary
if you want the rarer fish do it as fast
Ok thanks again :)
Pure timing
Except for which fish you actually get since perfect gives you 50/50 legendary/rare fish and not perfect gives you 50/50 rare/common
There is a ding and a flash once the fish can be caught
It is actually 10 total, ||but you don't have to fight Hades the 10th time. If there's a particular weapon you're extremely bad at, wouldn't be a bad idea to bring that one on run 10 just to get the prophecy out of the way||
Already beat the game with every weapon but thanks for the tip 👍
any tips that i can use? ive made it to the final boss once
shield is op
ok
Idk if you know ir already but
Dashing gives you iframes, dash striking removes them
I was reading this, but a picture of the final result should be more helpful
There is a picture if you scroll down more
Ah I see the issue
Dark foresight, family favorites, and fated persuasion should be the only green things on your mirror
They're towards the end of the mirror
Their red counterparts are Olympian favor, privileged status, and fated authority
There are some exceptions that depends on what weapons you're using but for the most part that's it
same
shield is op............
Spoiler that
sry
YES chiron my build was so bad too idk how i won
it was like dio special ares attack
but i had epic hermes dash thing and athena dash
lmfao how'd you end up with ares atk
what do i do doe
like whats the goal now
what am i grinfing for
hey so
How come sometimes I only get Darkness as a reward?
Instead of Titan's Blood or a Diamond
it seems to be random?
Is it every x amount of runs it regenerates the loot?
If you kill a boss for the 2nd time with the same weapon you get darkness
There are ways to get more but you gotta beat the final boss for the first time first
ahh gotcha lol
Also there's a bunch of stories with loose ends if you want to complete those
is there a way to see which weapons have done which?
Not until you've gotten your first win
gotcha
My best run so far...
I want to level properly my mirror
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737924122289504297/993029651687542784/unknown.png
i got 2 ||death defiance|| on stores, bought em and ||found a guy that restored all of them||
and the ||tooth from skelly||
none of that needs to be spoilered lol
whatever's after the final boss you have to spoiler
i didn't know about that guy
so tbh you dont need to spoiler anything you've seen in the game unless you're wondering about stuff you've seen from other people
but either way, your mirror should be something similar to what i sent
depending on the build though ofc
what weapon do you use the most?
I pick whatever i found with the darkness bonus
ah
well that's not inherintly a bad idea i guess but if you're looking for your first clear i think it'll be better to just find a weapon and keep using it
this is how it looks rn
i was trying to level the spear
your mirror upgrades are fine, just change some of the bottom stuff and it'll be fine
if your favorite is the bow then dont level the spear
you've unlocked weapon aspects presumeably right?
just the achiles
well
how much titan blood do you have now?
the first time i learned about that stuff the spear was selected lol
ah rip
3 
okay that's not too bad
if your favorite is the bow then i recommend using aspect of chiron or aspect of zag
I want to level everything i need on the mirror
and then use a weapon i like
tbh what you have on the mirror is enough to win
of course leveling up the mirror will make you stronger and make it easier to play, but at the same time, honing weapon skills and enemy interactions are more important
and on the way you'll get a lot of darkness as well
Rip, I wanted to make it into a visual guide while elaborating more on some of the stuff, it would be more appealing and easier to send too, but I never got to that
hi guys, I have a few questions about damage calculation
1)wiki says damage bonuses are additive so if I have 2 boons giving me 40 and 57% attack damage and a boon giving me 20 attack/cast/special damage my attack damage would be 100+40+57+10=217% base damage, is that correct?
2)again, looking at the wiki it looks like crits are multiplicative with other damage bonuses, so when it says crits increase your damage by 200% would that make the above example 217*3=651% of base damage when I crit?
But Lv.1 Hera beats both of those at Lv.5. 
My understanding is that you have all of this correct except for the typo +10 instead of +20
normal hits:
× (1 + sum of base damage modifiers)
× (1 + sum of bonus damage modifiers)```critical hits:
```damage = (sum of base damage)
× (1 + sum of base damage modifiers)
× (1 + sum of bonus damage modifiers)
× (3 + sum of bonus critical damage modifiers)```
Base damage will be flat values.
Modifiers will be +n% values. Base damage modifiers will specify "base damage".
How do I find a dire gigantic vermin?
Hey so I'm sooorta new to the game but not really
Pretty much every single time I attempted to escape I used divine dash
I kinda used it as training wheels and I'm trying to stop using it as much
Cuz I don't wanna be forced to use Athena's keepsake
You guys have any tips for just not dying without divine dash
dashing gives you iframes (invincibility frames) and as soon as you atk so it becomes a dash atk, you lose all your iframes
so if you dash right before you get hit you wont take damage
If you do a second dash while the first dash is still active, is there a gap in the i-frames? 
I never thought to ask that
tartarus is usually easy, on some aspects you can just start with a main keepsake then athena in asphodel for divine dash
if you haven't gotten your first clear yet or are still struggling to clear consistently and you find more success using ddash then just keep using it, use ME or use athena's atk
or do that
would not recommend starting with ddash since you don't get your core boon online right away
for poms
fair
Ok so that's actually really helpful
I didn't know iframes cancel when you attack
I was just spamming left click and space like a drunk maniac
That explains a lot
Hey, how do I get someone's friendship level really high?
I've gotten Skelly to the point where I can't use more nectar on him
and the Heart has a lock on it
I have ambrosia but can't give it to him
oh nvm
checked the wiki
need more Titan's Blood
so each character has a unique "favor" unlock req im assuming
hmm interesting
i dont want too much spoilers so for now I'll just leave it at Skelly
Can someone explain something to me
"Battle Rage
After slaying a foe, your next Attack or Special deals more damage."
Is it just a one hit thats got the extra damage or does it stack for that chamber?
I'm not sure but it wouldn't be that hard to test
1 hit
God mode is named terribly
I thought i was the only one thinking that
I thought it meant god level difficulty
I turned it on and it said damage resistance 20%
ngl first time i hear that
specially considering there is also hell mode when creating a file
I thought it was a full invincibility mode, no deaths and boosted damage
to make it easy and you feel like a "god" in the game or something
that's usually what god mode means
like an assist mode
download the game, first thing that happens is that it wont even launch
have to play the 32-bit version lmao
Please refer to #h1-tech-fixes, and if you're still having issues after trying those steps, ask for help in #h1-tech-support. 
Good luck with that!
just had to restart my PC lol
everythings working now!
also, how about the symbols on the different doors? any look-up for those?
awesome thanks
i haven't noticed that there are two different colors on the laurels
Someone pin this
dark foresight in the mirror increases your chance of getting gold laurels by 20% at max level. (10 ranks, +2% per rank)
Is there any benefit to using God Mode to beat the final boss once to make subsequent runs easier, or not really?
beating the final boss once doesn't really make future runs easier immediately
but if you're struggling to survive, god mode is fine to use
no shame in it
||hades has a 2nd life wtf||
First time reached the 5th zone
is Aspect of Hera better than Aspect of Chiron?
been using Chiron so far and i enjoy it a lot but now i look at the tier list in the pins and Hera is S tier, even on level 1
are you speedrunning? hera > chiron
but chiron is arguably better for just beating the game
"are you speedrunning?" This is the new players channel
lol true
It's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat.
The shield charge will not flash without a specific hammer upgrade, which is not good anyway, a bullrush is just when you charge your attack and let go
oh
is hades better played on controller ? but in my case i find controller difficult
All preference, there is no clear better and we have top players on kbm aswell, controller is simply more popular
i think movement might be easier on controller, but aiming will probably be harder, but again, just preference
is there any build guides for hades
like what boons should i combine for a very good build for an example
Yeah. Chiron is easy to play, though, but it doesn't really get good until high levels.
hera has some great burst potential with the right cast boons
Check pins for my Newbie Build Guide. 
ya iam using tht rn
is there a cap on the amount of duos you can have?
no
oh ok thats nice
There's also this one which I found really helpful for quick build ideas
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide#aspect-of-eris-rail
It was shared here before but I don't think (?) it's pinned
when do u unlock weapon upgrades n aspects ?
You can unlock the regular aspects by spending blood.
The unlock requirements for the secret aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion
200+ by the time you reach the Elysium boss is generally what I'd recommend for new players.
i think he means the menu for aspects
You need to unlock all 6 weapons to be able to unlock aspects.
Not the first time I've seen that misunderstanding here. Already prepared. 
what aspects should i get
Whatever sounds fun! If you want to know like relative strengths at different levels, you can check the pins for my guide for that.
how do u unlock all the weapons
ong
how to unlock this ?
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800999051335565352/993875329498218537/unknown.png||
do a run
what does it mean when something called prophercy something pops up
Some prophecies require you to pick up boons and hammers for the first time, so when you do that the Prophecy is Fulfilled, and when you finish all the quests of 1 prophecy you get the rewards for it
btw i did beat the final boss once , i should do it again to unlock tht weap right?
No, you just have to refresh the House seed, so you need to have Zag die one way or another
what?
I just said do a run as in start an attempt, when you finish the attempt, Zagreus dies, and returns to the House, so the seed is refreshed (aka you get different dialogue, npcs, etc in the House), it also reveals that weapon
Hey I was just wondering about control layouts. That was the first thing I looked at when I opened the game
Why is the default dash not a shoulder trigger? Does that feel normal to play or have any of you changed it?
You dont have to stick to the default layout, the default reload is very awkward for example, and on some weapons you rebind stuff sometimes such as the Cast etc, I personally have rebinded my Dash to a shoulder
Thanks I was going to switch it but since I haven't played i didnt know if there was a good reason for that
That recent guide that was posted was super helpful. I almost finished the last boss with it on my first use of it. (Granted, 40 attempts in, but)
19 runs, still can't get past meg
Enjoy these times cos you'll start to feel bad for her when she can't beat you any more
facts
Congrats! Treat yourself to a nice lava bath as a reward 
course!
Oh I remember the first time I beat them. I was hype as could be. And then I burned to death in asphodel before I started bc I couldn't figure out how to get to the next room
Lmao
I grew exponentially once I beat Meg
Now I can make it to the final boss most of the time
Beating Meg was like my 50th run and now I'm on my 75th
took me like five days dw
There's no lava in Hades.
Eh?
Oh right it's magma 🧠
It's magma if it's inside the earth, and lava if it's surfaced
Brain large
SGG: records voice lines about lava
SGG fans: "Actually, it's magma because it's underground."
SGG: rerecords all the lava voice lines to change it to magma
SGG fans: "I just died stepping on lava."
Lol
One could argue that the surface of Asphodel is a surface, even if not the surface of the Earth.
While that may be true, one of tur main differences between lava and magma is their consistency and I gotta say, it's defo magma
Lava is more thick and slow moving because it cools so rapidly in the open air
Magma is thinner and hotter as seen by how the game itself remarks at how its able to damage even the fire-footed prince of the Underworld
Finally vanquished the Heroes
got lucky with boons
an easy way to get diamonds?
or a fast way to farm items to trade for them?
I want to get the fishing rod
but i spent all my diamonds
You can only get them from killing the hydra or trading
You can find glowing spots in rooms and interact with them to catch fish
Then exchange them at the house chef for resources
It'll pay back for itself eventually
But also diamonds aren't worth too much other than house contractor upgrades iirc
So you're exchanging a few diamonds for chances at gemstones, keys, nectar, and darkness
there are 2 bosses that (almost always ) kill me: ||Hades|| and ||alecto ||XD... so if i start with her i just give up my run deep down in my mind
i need help
rn
anyone have time?
im going for poseidon sword combinating it with lady aphrodite's cast and hermes burst cast
i got another of her boons and all of the picks are pretty amazing
so... what do you need help with?
just a sec to send picture
hmm wait
this is the build
i am starting to make
and this are the choices
i would probably go for heartbreak flourish there. the other two choices arent particularly great imo. the dash is a bit weak and the legendary isnt particularly amazing here either. putting aphro or arty on special is good for damage.
yeah iwas thinking about legendary but im using high damage cast so it doesnt really matter....
but i hast artemis dash
hate
thats fine, you can always purge it at a pool of purging
true okay i will go with specail thanks
i just wasnt expecting so high rarity and all similar good choices :)
it was a good run but he beat me.... :) i had no luck with other boons i was hoping for longer cast and for thr game to not give me all the minibosses possible :/
also i couldnt replenish my death defiances even tho i had money cuz charon wasnt nice to me
but still pretty decent run
i had cast on lvl10
what does the anvil in styx do?
if i get a god i dont want then i recycle it(the boon) in the passage do i get a new god? in the upcoming encounters
Purging the boon doesnt remove the god from the pool
So you can still get offered that god
man
If you dont want the god just avoid it
And if you're forced into it regardless you can probably play around it
Usually you're shooting for 2 gods of your choice which are easy to get with keepsakes and 2 random gods, some are better than others sure but you can take whatever
iam trying to get athena for a duo boon
is there any website or something showing some good possible builds i could try out btw??
for diff weaps
It removes one of your hammer upgrades in exchange for two new ones. At random.
It can be great if your two hammers you have now aren't particularly great anyway.
How to get the last keepsake? not the gold ones
How many times have you cleared runs?
38, cleared once
After your 10th clear you should be able to get a keepsake
oof,
Yeah it's gonna take some time then lol
@solid shale - Don't lose heart. After your first clear, with the added feature, you can re-collect the special item from each boss again from each weapon. It should let you eke out more damage/utility so you can win more consistently. 🙂
Also after your first clear you'll realize how more consistent you'll get to the final boss and how consistent you'll be able to clear
I cleared 3 in a row after my first clear or something
I think I got first clear, then failed, then two in a row, failed again, and now I'm on a streak of 8
Yeah, no worries
I usually play slow, so let's see in a month
Spoiler tags. 
stubborn defiance or death defiance
death defiance
for newer players, they'll probably be dying to a boss multiple times so death defiance allows that to happen
stubborn defiance is really only if you die in like every room you walk into, and that shouldn't be the case for any new player given a bit of time
If you really wanna win the game each time
Imo use Chiron bow
With Artemis special
It's the easiest way to win any game
And focus completely on special damage
slap aphrodite atk on that btw and get the duo
crit damage does 150% more
but there's other good charon builds that can go faster lol
aphodite atk dio spl, their duo lets you stack hangover 8 times so you'll only have to shoot your special 1 or 2 times per enemy instead of 3, also utilizes privileged status, which gives you +40% extra damage
charon kinda sucks in styx because of the small chambers so splash dash with breaking wave works great
is it a bad idea to try a run with ||max heat?||
or will playing with ||full heat|| just make you an overalll better player?
spoiler ||heat||
Should spoiler that in this channel, but the answer here is that ||max heat|| unseeded is practically an impossible task for almost all players out there, and it’s never been done, so no, you will die in a few rooms at best
It wont make you a better player, ||heat scales exponentially and spikes very hard at around 50, the higher you go beyond that the tougher the game is gonna get, unreasonably so, something like 62 to 64 is an insane jump, if you want to get into it start with smaller progressions: 8-16-32-40-45-50 etc||
also something to keep in mind, ||heat/bounty rewards only scale up 1 at a time, so if the bounty is at 5 heat right now and you complete a run with 10 heat, you'll get the reward for 5 heat and the bounty will move onto 6||
it takes a random hammer upgrade you have and gives you 2 other random upgrades you dont have :)
censor ||heat||
im using ||EM3 and BP1|| is that good?
ngl for ||8 heat|| that's a bit overkill lol
i mean that's pretty good but there are eaiser ||8 heat pacts||
||tight deadline|| is extremely easy and that gives i think ||6 heat||
idk im kinda bad at going fast
for ||td3|| anyways
||td1 gives you 9 minutes per biome which should be plenty||
||td2 gives you 7 per biome which is a bit faster but still generous||
even ||9:00|| can be annoying for me, not sure about ||7||
i know the ranks for ||td||
i've practically memorized the ||pact|| by now
fair enough
i mean, thats fine tbh
i've heard that ||HL and LC|| should not go together
you should check your prior runs and see how fast you go, and adjust ||td|| accordingly
lol first run approx 41 min
with rail
but i'm really fast with sword
especially sidon sword
||td1|| should be no problem for any weapon you're comfy with
aight i'll give it a try for 3 ||heat||
generally not yeah but you could make it work if you use stubborn defiance
saving up darkness for that and max gods pride
nice
now just wondering how i'm supposed to get max fated pers
the +20% darkness from your weapon is obv gonna be useful if that doesnt work but getting the bonus drops from chaos and poseidon are gonna be what gives you a ton
game harder
simply get more darkness
eclipse from chaos and ocean's bounty/sunken treasure from poseidon, if i'm not mistaken
and dark thrist
make sure that you actually have a very high chance of winning though before you start taking eclipse and dark thirst
Do it on a weapon with bounties already claimed too
The darkness drops from bosses is huge
since taking hp loss, reward skip, and chaos curse can snowball into death
and beating ||dad|| is biggest source of darkness
50/100/150/200?
holy-
one thing you can do is run builds that naturally force poseidon anyways
i think highest % bonus i got from chaos a single time was 98% but the curse was i lose hp per special and i was using charon bow lmao
at that point you just play at 1hp and continue using specials if you got bad attack
true
I got the pleasure of using chaos attack curse with lucifer at 50 and it was super lit
blood everywhere
got it in elysium so it was pretty hell lol
no hit challenge thanks to chaos
i used a DD in elysium before the boss lol
but it all ended fine the end reward was great
i feel like the ||EM3|| boss fight is actually slightly easier than without ||EM||
but idk if thats just me
||it's easier in the sense that theseus doesn't have a shield for most of the time||
||the bull is obv a lot harder, but theseus is a lot easier. what makes the whole thing more challenging is them together at the same time because theseus provides a ton of area denial by running through the arena shooting bullets and dropping bombs while you also have to fight asterius||
or maybe it's because i had a poseidon sword arty cast build
when bull starts spinning things start to get harder but i just dashed through
exit wounds
fully loaded
mirage shot
heart rend with aphro on atk
sidon on special
thats what i like to go for
i haven't played pos sword in a while but i do something similar
i generally do aphro special because i'm not really dash striking a ton
fair i guess lol
as ||heat|| goes up it becomes an absolute nightmare compared to regular version
fair enough, i can understand why
with added modifiers i can see how it can be terrible
and theseus's area denial sucks ass
people say "oh ||chariot theseus is so much easier to dodge vs spear|| but gold asterius demands space which theseus massively constrains
since every bomb deals massive damage
like 50 or something stupid
i think everyone agrees that ||chariot theseus is easier than normal theseus|| but combined with the bull makes it a nightmare
well thats because you dont have to worry about the damned spear that he throws at you which does like 20 dmg
per hit
that and the shield
personally i just find the shield super annoying esp if i'm using charon because i can never get the timing right (skill issue)
and poseidon sword dislodges
true shot gaming?
Wow you have charon aspect unlocked?
or ares cast works
unfortunately yes
charon aspect is just ||arthur|| tbh
||arthur|| with extra steps
spoiler ||arthur||
How did you do it, i only have chiron
cheat engine
Is just normal to confuse it at some point tbf
can't believe the greeks had their own version of "brian" and "bryan"
Yes
simply do not take ||bp and fo|| at the same time lol
oh buddy you have no idea
yes they do
lmao yeah
just make sure you always have a scrap boon every time
wait
hold up
it might not be ||AP||
nvm it is
||im talking about approval process||
aight ima head out cyall
lol just wait till ||speeder sluggers||
esp on ||fo2 hl5||
"oh darn there goes my sd"
more like run ended
you've got 2 chances just dont get hit twice lmao
i saw this video on recommendet and i watchet about 5 minutes of it... it has spoilers uf corse but i have a qestion.. why does the game look so diffrentfrom mine?
Let's take the Poseidon sword and vindicate our sword skills. It turns out the combo of cast and sword focus is a pretty sweet combo. Thanks for watching!
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The WELCOME to HELL Update -
Welcome to our eighth Major Update, filled with new content and features for our early adopters as well...
is it because im lpaying on switch and console and pc versions are diffrent
or an loder version?
if nothing else there is less keepsakes and they are diffrently positioned?
the more i watch weirder it gets
it is an older version, from 2019 - its the welcome to hell update
when the game was still in early access
ooh okay are there any new updates planed or is the game finished now?
early access has been finished for a good while now, and as far as we know, nothing new is planned
#h1-discussion message irt more hades content
wow this thessius minotaur fight feels unfair
it is
i would suggest killing mino first then theseus
i'm having so much trouble avoiding attacks long enough to hurt them
Dash a lot
issue with that is you're also trying to take down the bull at the same time so you'll probably be dash attacking, which removes your iframes
i don't think it's actually unfair i just thought it felt unfair. i've died 3 or 4 times so far never really getting close.
should i kmnow what greatest reflex is
i see now that it's a hermes boon. i usually take it when offered. i'm not sure if i'm undervaluing things or not understanding what i should be doing in general.
ok i thought i was going through attacks with dash but i didn't know for sure it had iframes. can i plow through an enemy then?
Greatest reflex just makes dash boons better and makes all boss fights easier
Yeah you can go right through them
Empty dashes are invincible from start to end. But if you do an Attack or anything mid-dash, you're not invincible.
you can beat the whole fight by dashing in circles, no damage done to you
it took mwe 30minutes oc spamming b tho...
I keep getting so close to beating the Minotaur and Theseus. I had the both of them like 25% heath, and I could’ve beat them if I had the lucky tooth.
you'll want to take down asterius first
try to avoid hitting theseus much
Okay, will do. Thanks.
yep
theseus gains the additional god attacks which can be really bad
so you don't want his god form and asterius up at once
Thanks for the advice. I killed Asterius and then after that I pretty easily killed Theseus aswell. Didn’t even have to use my death defiance!
hello , i'm new and i just got to hades stage 2 ( hopefully the last ) but i cant kill him due to all the minions being so fast , the chariots are a big pain , even when i have all aoe boons or all burst
what would be recommended to deal with those?
hades himself is very easy to beat but the minions are giving me some trouble
spoiler ||hades stage 2|| please
spoiler the boss name and pronouns pretty much or to make it easy just spoiler the whole message
also ||the minions he spawns are always random, sometimes you'll get lucky and it'll be easy to deal with other times it'll suck. the elysium archers shoot constantly pretty much, chariots have a ton of armor, etc||
on the other hand it can be extremely build/boon dependent
what you currently think might be a good buid might not be as great as you think
What build?
honestly loads of stuff , i found zeus boons to be really nice on the gun since i can basically instantly clear levels with the high burst aoe
so these are usually present but i've also gone for a different aproach of using only specials' aoe with some aphrodite/dionysus dps effects
sometimes i add the ares boons in for some quick burst but i mostly do fine with aoe , else i get wrecked by the normal enemies
ive just gotten my first diamond, what can i use it for?
also i dont get titans blood for killing meg anymore, how else can i get it?
you can use diamonds at the house contractor. right now, you can only get titan blood from trading, but beating the game opens something up that allows you to get more
what that sucks
Did you kill meg with all the weapons?
no
That way you can get more blood
The first time you defeat a boss for the first time with a weapon you get the bounty
wait how did i get 3 i dont remember beating her with 3 weapons
After that it will only be dariness till a post final boss thing
There are some deals at the broker in the lounge for blood, maybe that?
Or maybe you did kill her with 3 weapons and dont remember 
i dont have any deal for blood
yh maybe lol
i also dont have anything for diamonds at the contractor
They should appear sooner o later ig
alr
is meg feasible to beat early game without good ranged damage?
i struggled a lot more with the spear than the rail
Melee weapons are kinda harder to get used but is possible
Do you know about the dash strikes cancelling iframes no?
sorry i was playing lol
no i dont, what is that
While you dash you are invulnerable during all of it, dash striking cancels that
ohhh that makes sense
i thought it was a bug when i was taking damage during spear dash strike
ranged damage is nice, but melee weapons can deal a lot more damage. when she's about to attack, dash through her attach to avoid damage. be careful not to attack while dashing, or the i-frames will be canceled.
dash out of the way when she dashes towards you. she pauses for a bit, so get some hits in before she attacks.
when she swings her whip, you can dash into the attack and negate all damage.
hide behind pillars when she shoots projectiles (or deflect them back with athena boon)
she will be invulnerable while summoning thugs and witches
how do i unlock the arrows on the left side of the mirror?
Keep talking to Nyx
What are poms
Ty
What is the difference between an elite room and a regular room? If an elite room has a hammer icon, will the reward be any different than from a regular room with a hammer icon?
Elite rooms can only be blue laurels so you wont get an Elite room with a hammer etc, it'll be darkness gemstones or keys, cant be a nectar either, and yes, it's amore difficult encounter, usually armored
blue laurels
ty
Will the reward be any different?
Yea it's more than usual
idk exactly how much for darkness and gemstones, might be 15
For keys it's 2 instead of 1
thanks
if i trade titan blood for gemstones i'll still be able to get more right? there isn't some maximum? just concerned since it seemed to be the reward for hte first time i killed a boss with a specific weapon or something
There’s always more, however that is not a good trade because you’ll need a ton of Titan Blood at this point, and Gemstones will be more for cosmetic stuff
oh it was like 1 blood for 200 gems. maybe bad but i was glad to get 20 gold urns and better troves
i just won for the first time 🙂 by far the most powerful run i've had so far
That’s good, will help you get more Titan Blood
is there a maximum amount of nectar i can give to each person? the icon seems like it goes on forever. is there a tangible reward for maxing it out if so?
i think the max is 5-7 for most of the people?
thanks. sorry if these questions are dumb but
chaos gates count as a chamber right?
Yes
But if you go throigh one at chamber 12/22/34 it will count as an extra (so instead of arriving at meg on ch14 you arrive at ch15 for example)
oh nice
won another run 😄 chiron bow + artimis/zeus stuff was really good
hey, i just picked up the game a bit ago! still on my first run. what's a good aspect to unlock for the stygian blade?
can anyone explain dark foresight? the tooltip isn't very clear. or at least i don't understand what kind of rewards it's talking about
i like the crit one, but my gut tells me that the main form is going to be the strongest once it's upgraded a bunch
which one is the crit one
you get more gold laurel stuff 20% of the time which is great
DF is lowkey one of the best mirror upgrades
oh sweet
it'll be a while until you can unlock aspects but yeah nemesis is pretty good for the sword
is family favorite any good?
it feels like not
the duos are insane
well some of them
hold on i dont remember names off the top of my head lemme pull up the wiki
oh family favorites is good
considering the other option is privileged status, which is conditional
you're basically guaranteed 5 gods per run, 4 random ones and at least 1 from hermes so that's a 25% bonus
PS is good for certain builds like chiron tho
yes
you'll be offered a bunch of random gods until you have 4 unique gods (not including hermes)
and then you'll only see those same 4 gods the rest of the run
so if i have athena, ares, and artemis currently and my door options are aphrodite and dionysus, if i take aphrodite then i'll only see athena, ares, artemis, and aphrodite
that's interesting. i've passed on an extra boon in shops to save money on several occasions, but locking in a 4th would at least reduce the chance of random gods i don't want
yeah
at the same time tho if the god in the shop isn't useful for your build then dont go for it
i only have 2 wins, but from what i can tell the 4th is rarely something i'm looking for
because i'm just trying to get boons that need qualifications
tbh every run you should only be looking for 2 gods, maybe 3
but you can easily force 2
yeah that was exactly what i was thinking
but then every boon can just be a random other god
like it's not like i know what a random athena boon is going to have in a shop
generally every build's core revolves around a certain duo and then whatever you get is just a nice bonus
for melee weapons, a high-roll option would be to get merciful end
nemesis could go for heart rend or deadly reversal
this game really needed a more easy to follow ui about the boons
there's a codex
yeah but the codex is clunky
or do you mean like a search bar or something lol
it's alright tho if you play the game long enough you'll get the names down
it's far from my first roguelike rodeo but it's still easier when the information is very accessible. admittedly other games are even worse about it
i should just find some mods there's gotta be some QoL stuff that makes it more streamlined
for example, if the codex highlighed the ones you already have and the ones you already qualify for
there's a link for the modding community in this server somewhere, maybe in #self-promotion?
that would be a huge boost
also something that told me what floor i'm on
i do know that it offers you the 4 core boons at the start each time so there's no starting rng
literally a number in the corner of hte screen would be helpful lol
there is
whenever you hit your boon info list thingy
if you're playing on kbm it's b
cool i never noticed it. still i think i'd prefer it just while running around
if you spam it right before entering a room you can have the room number show up but not the boon list lol
lol that certainly won't bug anything else out
it doesnt
i just hit the button a lot whenever entering the room and whenever the room number shows up i stop
it's been working fine and i have well over 200 runs in lol
maybe
what do you mean about it offering 4 core boons at the start?
attack, special, cast, and dash boons are considered core boons
i think technically also call but you cant be offered that at the start
but regarding those 4, you can only be offered 3 at a time
you're tlaking about the boon in the very first room?
and sometimes you're not offered what you want
yes
are there any rules about when it's not a boon but instead a hammer?
the 4 boon options only applies to the first room
just rng
idk i dont use the mod so i dont really know
but it's just from what i've seen
the mod offers you 4 instead of 3 because certain builds require different things, and not getting what you want at the start makes you waste resources
if you're playing a cast centered build but aren't offered it at the start, you either have to wait until the next time you see that god or use a reroll (fated persuasion upgrade in the mirror)
and even then you might not even get what you want because rng lmao
oh you know i didn't realize you were talking about a specific mod
oh lmao
cause you just said there's a modding community and then started referring to "it" XD
sweet thanks. i know there are some mods that increase rewards based on [i don't know how to spoiler], which is apparently not part of hte main game
i wonder if that's too game breaking
spoiler ||heat|| btw
tbh letting you complete bounties or get more of the bounty rewards when you increase the ||heat|| doesn't really do anything because you can totally max out everything you need without even finishing the bounties
do || on either side of the message
||like this||
if you just max everything on it it goes up to 64 i believe, and no one's been able to do that unmodded lol
you know how each ||heat level|| you get 1 time rewards right
yeah
||it caps at 20 for each weapon and after that you can't get any more rewards||
there's still the mirror. does that cap early too?
i mean
just upgrade everything on it and it's done lol
idk what you mean for a cap on the mirror
yeah they all have a max level
well, i think the mod that increases rewards based on ||heat|| increases darkness too. but it makes sense for that not to scale if it just doesn't take that much to max anyway
I mean I don't know much about the mod I'm just playing the base game lol
||yeah i think it just creates a greater incentive to play higher heats once the weapons are maxed. I guess that doesn't matter in reality. I don't play Ascension 20 slay the spire because there are meta rewards||
There's always incentive to ||increase the heat|| lol
Get better at the game, get various achievements
Also there's a bunch of unfinished storylines
Also once you get better at the game you can try your hand at speed running lol
unfinished storylines by the time the weapons are done or just lingering in the game that will never be completed?
You'll probably finish the storylines by the time you max all the weapons
That takes a while
The storylines might take like idk 20 runs or so if you're lucky
Maybe 50
But the weapons still might not be maxed by then lol
Depending how you play
What I did was keep the ||heat low|| and go through the runs as fast as possible to get the storylines done lol
i'll probably just keep going up levels and then be sad when i get stuck XD
A big milestone for a lot of players is ||32 heat||
is a cast build fine for my first time escaping
cast builds are fun i would recommend hunting blades as its prob the best cast build
It's probably the best build for Achilles but for other cast weapons it's not
agh
i just made it to the hades fight for the first time
died after he started his second phase
Is there a way to improve dodging it feels worse than dark souls 2 dodging
just learn the attack patterns of enemies
ugh already bumped into a RNG hell road block
You should spoiler this
I beat a room I got dionysus and his 3 choices are bad drunken flourish, trippy shot and drunken dash
how can I deny the choices? all of them seem bad
You can't
Take one that doesn't harm you and sell it later
What weapon/aspect are you playing
Another solution would be to not take Dionysus to begin with
idk sword I guess
Or any god that can't offer you much
I thought it was loot after I beat a room how was I suppose to know it was dionysus
I guess I'll just give up the run
Before you enter a room the laurel will indicate what the reward will be
If you give up runs everytime a minor thing goes wrong you wont get many runs going if any
well all 3 choices screwed me over
all of them apply a curse
any gods that don't debuff me?
Oh I think you're misunderstanding boons
They add traits to your actions basically
So Dionysus makes your Attack/Special/Dash apply a curse to enemies
Not to yourself
oh ok
No god debuffs you lol
The only exception would be chaos but you don't have to take it and the debuffs goes away after a bit
But in return you get increased stats for the rest of the run so it's a fair trade
Yea Chaos is usually worth it
If you're scared of dying just take whatever curse doesn't harm you even if the buff you get after is not good
what's the use for Ambrosia? i have 15 of it and no idea what it does
Hey just Out of curiosity.
Im not a new player, but am i crazy or does poseidons flourish not Work with chiron aspect?
Forge Bonds with characters, it's for later when you've given NPCs more nectar and advanced their storylines
It works, it's actually one of the good ones for Chiron
Adding on to what MiKe said, since you're most likely going to have an abundance of ambrosia, it's not a bad idea to trade a few away for titan blood, since that resource is used a lot more
is there any point in giving Charon more nectar?
if you're short on nectar then there's no need to give him more nectar
there's no need in giving nectar to most characters after the 1st one when they give you the keepsake
oof darn I gave him like 5 should I reset my game did I screw myself over also if that's the case why does the game let us keep giving them nectar?
rip
its mostly for story
and no dont reset your game
just get more nectar in your runs
yeah lol there's no need to reset
progressing story and character bonds are also important to the game, but when starting the game the priority right now is beating the game
giving multiple nectars to various characters isn't important at the moment, but later on it will be
once you've given everyone 1 nectar and have everyone's keepsake then you can start stacking the nectars onto other characters
which boons are good for the sword?
i'm using the aspect that gives crit chance after special, don't remember what it's called
it's the only weapon i haven't beaten the game with yet so i guess i should do it for the free titan blood
also hammers
with nemesis, it's generally paired with artemis atk with aphrodite or athena special
yeah artemis attack is pretty obvious
regarding hammers, hardly any of the hammers are good except for double edge, which gives your dash atks 2x damage or something
hits twice
arty-athena duo makes you crit more often, arty-aphrodite makes your crits deal more damage
standard attack combo is special-dash attack-dash attack for sword
i'll try artemis-aphrodite
my last attempt ended at ||Hades|| but that was a while ago
with chaos you want to get atk or dash atk buffs
no idea if that should be spoilered but will do just in case
sword is a risky weapon only because it's a melee weapon so if you're concerned about getting hit a lot then using arty-athena isn't a bad idea so you have access to divine dash and your deflecting on your special
yeah that should be spoilered
my two main weapons are spear and bow
i used to like shield but now it feels slow compared to other weapons
and i'm at ||6 heat||
more in depth regarding this:
double edge is the best hammer for the sword considering the standard attack combo
every other hammer is essentially pointless, but try not to pick one up that harms your build. meaning no cursed slash, no dash nova, no world splitter, stuff like that
spoiler ||heat (not fury)|| btw
if you see an anvil in styx, probably don't buy it because you're more likely to get a hammer that'll hurt you more than help you
mb
it's alright
yeah, don't wanna lose that double edge
the next best hammer besides double edge would probably be breaching slash so you can burn through armor faster, super nova is nice as well
even if you dont have double edge i wouldn't even go for it, it's just too risky
if you get something like dash nova then that's gonna suck lol
i'll try in the morning, rn i'm too tired to play
i'm enjoying the game but it's becoming repetitive
fair lol
i'm at 10 win streak and every run is the same
using different weapons can help, upping the ||heat|| more
trade a bit of your ambrosia for titan's blood if you need more of it
but not too much because it's still relatively important
that's why i wanna do a sword run now
i'll go now, thanks for all the help and tips
np
best aspect for new players is sheild no contest
true
Aspect?
gods legacy or gods pride
context dependent
if your build revolve around a duo boon/legendary then it might be good for legacy otherwise run pride
im a new player and i did a spear build with 3 times dash attack but short dashes is it good?
i managed to reach the bull of minos and theseus but i didn't beat them
It's an alright hammer, the shorter dashes are a bit of a pain because it takes practice to use them well, another hammer you can look for if you want to focus on your attack is Flurry Jab, which is much stronger than Serrated, which is what you had there
yeah i saw that option but 3x attack sounds so enticing
And if you want to focus on you Special instead you look for Exploding Launcher + Charged Skewer in that order
Yea it is attractive at first, but with Flurry you can actually buffer more dashstrikes than Serrated and you can also change their direction
And it has no drawback
So it's overall considered the strongest on weapons that are compatible with it
Well Flurry Jab is strictly a spear hammer, but some spears can't get it, such as the Hades Aspect
it's good but only if you have extra dashes from hermes
when you choose between 2 god boons is the option you dont pick always tries to kill you?
Yeah.
oh i get it now you also get the other one if you beat the chamber
yup
I’m fairly certain base dash attack on spear actual hits twice and serrated just makes it hit a third time so it’s a 1.5x as many hits rather than 3x
It hits once
Hello, I have a question. If I equip a keepsake that "forces" a specific god boon at next opportunity, does it work until I take the boon, or just spawns a door choice once? As in, if I choose the other (non-god) door, will the keepsake still "force" the god choice again next time, or is the opportunity lost then?
Yes, it will force the god again when possible if you don’t take it, there is a small counter under the keepsake that says 1, if disappears once you pick up the actual boon from the respective god
cool, thank you :)
when you reroll does it change the rarity?

