#h1-for-new-players

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viscid notch
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That's way better

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Well except the defiance

round jacinth
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i lost one of my DDs tho

viscid notch
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A second one would've been nice

round jacinth
viscid notch
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But you'll get there

round jacinth
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eh its gonna be fiiiine

tepid notch
round jacinth
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i'll just defeat bosses get some stuff

viscid notch
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Just do some runs, if it's hard just spend another key on the mirror

tepid notch
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It's been pretty hard for me

round jacinth
viscid notch
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Yea that's why you do some runs

round jacinth
viscid notch
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Because you might not need to

round jacinth
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ok so

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to save this i just do a run right?

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if i give up immediately it should save, correct?

viscid notch
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No

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That's basically how you lose your progress

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If you're in the prince chambers now just go to the courtyard

round jacinth
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the range?

viscid notch
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That's pretty much it

tepid notch
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I don't know how to save mid game
I just fight until I die and quit the game in front of hypnos

round jacinth
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wait you can just do that?

viscid notch
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At the start of it and at the end

round jacinth
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just exit the game come back?

viscid notch
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You can

round jacinth
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WOW

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i did not know

viscid notch
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You can quit at the start of rooms and at the end

round jacinth
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i thought you had to give up to quit

viscid notch
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And continue from there

viscid notch
round jacinth
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ah nice

viscid notch
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you can use the quit button right under it

round jacinth
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oh sorry

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to not mess up stats?

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idk why you'd do that tho but ay ig why not

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so if you give up not even the darkness is saved?

viscid notch
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nope

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nothing is saved

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at all

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you get the same starting seed

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when you do a run again

round jacinth
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oh cool

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ok i saved now

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i gotta pack some stuff now

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thanks for the help everyone!

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gl with the runs @tepid notch

tepid notch
round jacinth
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thx

round jacinth
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im back

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i havent gotten all the rewards on ||heat 1|| yet, if i do a run on ||heat 2|| i would get new rewards right?

round jacinth
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ah

topaz jasper
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gotta full clear before getting new bounties

round jacinth
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ah damn

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thats gonna be hard haha

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so lemme get this straight

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if i do a full clear with 1 weapon

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that opens bounties for the next heat level with only that weapon

topaz jasper
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correct

round jacinth
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ah ok

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so i can only really climb heat when i use the weapon i'd be the best at then

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since i gotta finish the entire run beforehand

topaz jasper
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that's right

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in terms of collecting bounties that is

round jacinth
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ah damn

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i did a thing with the first heat level

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where i just tried getting as far as i could with each weapon

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since the bounties are reset on each one after your very first ever clear

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but now i gotta clear heat 1 to get bounties to heat 2 then

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ok i think i can try that

topaz jasper
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the good news is up to heat 10 basically doesn't affect the game if you're smart about it

round jacinth
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would i need a good build to run 1 heat?

topaz jasper
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there's a lot of basically free pacts

round jacinth
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would the traps one be free?

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i thought it was but someone claimed it wasnt really an easy one for starters

topaz jasper
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||tight deadline 1-2, extreme measures 1-2, underworld customs, benefits package 1, middle management||

topaz jasper
round jacinth
topaz jasper
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it's awful until later on

round jacinth
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i've ran it on every weapon

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always got past elysium

topaz jasper
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the main problem with it is that ||dad vases are traps||

round jacinth
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guess i just got used to it quick lol

topaz jasper
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so they go from ||30 to 150 damage||

round jacinth
topaz jasper
dusty vault
round jacinth
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ah

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i dont completely recall the entire fight tbh

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its pretty vague

topaz jasper
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touch them with ||heightened security|| to instantly die

round jacinth
topaz jasper
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not good for 1 ||heat||

round jacinth
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ok ok i see

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so which ones would you prefer?

topaz jasper
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the ones I listed above are good starters

round jacinth
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oh did i miss em lol

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oh nevermind i just forgot

topaz jasper
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||tight deadline 1-2, extreme measures 1-2, underworld customs, benefits package 1, middle management||

round jacinth
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thx!

round jacinth
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which one would you say to take for the very first heat?

topaz jasper
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||tight deadline 1 or extreme measures 1||

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both are very free

round jacinth
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ight lemme see

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idk if i can do ||TD||, what happens if you break time?

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and also is there a timer for it?

topaz jasper
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||you lose 5 hp per second until you die||

round jacinth
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does ||EM|| do a lot or is it easy to get used to?

topaz jasper
round jacinth
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alrighty

uncut meadow
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How many times do I have to beat the game until I finish the Story?

arctic furnace
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9

uncut meadow
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Thx

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And also is fishing pure luck or is there a timing to it?

arctic furnace
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timing

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wait until the bobber is fully submerged

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then pull in

uncut meadow
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Ok thank you :)

dusty vault
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timing on hitting the button also affects the rarity of the fish

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if it says normal catch is a 50/50 between normal and rare fish, perfect catch is between rare and legendary

uncut meadow
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I just do it as fast as i can

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Or should i wait

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?

dusty vault
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if you want the rarer fish do it as fast

uncut meadow
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Ok thanks again :)

somber frigate
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Except for which fish you actually get since perfect gives you 50/50 legendary/rare fish and not perfect gives you 50/50 rare/common

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There is a ding and a flash once the fish can be caught

merry roost
uncut meadow
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Already beat the game with every weapon but thanks for the tip 👍

leaden whale
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any tips that i can use? ive made it to the final boss once

leaden whale
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ok

dusty vault
tepid notch
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I was reading this, but a picture of the final result should be more helpful

sweet brook
sweet brook
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Ah I see the issue

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Dark foresight, family favorites, and fated persuasion should be the only green things on your mirror

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They're towards the end of the mirror

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Their red counterparts are Olympian favor, privileged status, and fated authority

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There are some exceptions that depends on what weapons you're using but for the most part that's it

leaden whale
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shield is op............

pulsar sparrow
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@sweet brook

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I WON

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WITH 3/4 DEATH DEFIANCES

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I BEAT IT

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SO EZ

sweet brook
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Lmao nice

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What was your build?

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Chiron?

leaden whale
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I DID IT

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I KILLED HIM

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now to do it again

sweet brook
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Spoiler that

leaden whale
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sry

pulsar sparrow
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it was like dio special ares attack

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but i had epic hermes dash thing and athena dash

sweet brook
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lmfao how'd you end up with ares atk

pulsar sparrow
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so i just kept deflecting evertrhing

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i dont even know

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the ending was sad

sweet brook
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now do it again

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many times

pulsar sparrow
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like whats the goal now

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what am i grinfing for

sick jackal
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hey so

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How come sometimes I only get Darkness as a reward?

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Instead of Titan's Blood or a Diamond

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it seems to be random?

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Is it every x amount of runs it regenerates the loot?

dusty vault
proven pivot
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There are ways to get more but you gotta beat the final boss for the first time first

sweet brook
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You get the credits at 10 wins

sick jackal
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ahh gotcha lol

sweet brook
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Also there's a bunch of stories with loose ends if you want to complete those

sick jackal
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is there a way to see which weapons have done which?

sweet brook
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Not until you've gotten your first win

sick jackal
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gotcha

tepid notch
tepid notch
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i got 2 ||death defiance|| on stores, bought em and ||found a guy that restored all of them||
and the ||tooth from skelly||

sweet brook
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none of that needs to be spoilered lol

tepid notch
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idk

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but...

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just in case

sweet brook
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whatever's after the final boss you have to spoiler

tepid notch
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i didn't know about that guy

sweet brook
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so tbh you dont need to spoiler anything you've seen in the game unless you're wondering about stuff you've seen from other people

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but either way, your mirror should be something similar to what i sent

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depending on the build though ofc

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what weapon do you use the most?

tepid notch
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I pick whatever i found with the darkness bonus

sweet brook
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ah

tepid notch
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my favorite is the bow btw

sweet brook
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well that's not inherintly a bad idea i guess but if you're looking for your first clear i think it'll be better to just find a weapon and keep using it

tepid notch
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this is how it looks rn

tepid notch
sweet brook
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your mirror upgrades are fine, just change some of the bottom stuff and it'll be fine

sweet brook
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you've unlocked weapon aspects presumeably right?

tepid notch
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just the achiles

sweet brook
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if your favorite is the bow then why'd you upgrade the spear lol

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but that's fine

tepid notch
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well

sweet brook
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how much titan blood do you have now?

tepid notch
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the first time i learned about that stuff the spear was selected lol

sweet brook
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ah rip

tepid notch
sweet brook
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okay that's not too bad

tepid notch
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i've spent 3 :c

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unlocked the aspect and level the zagreus aspect on the spear

sweet brook
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if your favorite is the bow then i recommend using aspect of chiron or aspect of zag

tepid notch
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I want to level everything i need on the mirror
and then use a weapon i like

sweet brook
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tbh what you have on the mirror is enough to win

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of course leveling up the mirror will make you stronger and make it easier to play, but at the same time, honing weapon skills and enemy interactions are more important

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and on the way you'll get a lot of darkness as well

viscid notch
last crystal
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hi guys, I have a few questions about damage calculation
1)wiki says damage bonuses are additive so if I have 2 boons giving me 40 and 57% attack damage and a boon giving me 20 attack/cast/special damage my attack damage would be 100+40+57+10=217% base damage, is that correct?
2)again, looking at the wiki it looks like crits are multiplicative with other damage bonuses, so when it says crits increase your damage by 200% would that make the above example 217*3=651% of base damage when I crit?

gray haven
slate briar
gray haven
pliant juniper
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How do I find a dire gigantic vermin?

sick jackal
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Woo!

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This blade beam Daedalus is top tier

sly helm
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Hey so I'm sooorta new to the game but not really

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Pretty much every single time I attempted to escape I used divine dash

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I kinda used it as training wheels and I'm trying to stop using it as much

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Cuz I don't wanna be forced to use Athena's keepsake

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You guys have any tips for just not dying without divine dash

sweet brook
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so if you dash right before you get hit you wont take damage

merry roost
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If you do a second dash while the first dash is still active, is there a gap in the i-frames? thanthink

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I never thought to ask that

sweet brook
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idk maybe not

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but there's no shame in using ddash if you have to lol

topaz jasper
sweet brook
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if you haven't gotten your first clear yet or are still struggling to clear consistently and you find more success using ddash then just keep using it, use ME or use athena's atk

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or do that

topaz jasper
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would not recommend starting with ddash since you don't get your core boon online right away

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for poms

sweet brook
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fair

sly helm
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Ok so that's actually really helpful

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I didn't know iframes cancel when you attack

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I was just spamming left click and space like a drunk maniac

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That explains a lot

pulsar sparrow
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best shield build

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?

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what boons

sick jackal
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Hey, how do I get someone's friendship level really high?

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I've gotten Skelly to the point where I can't use more nectar on him

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and the Heart has a lock on it

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I have ambrosia but can't give it to him

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oh nvm

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checked the wiki

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need more Titan's Blood

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so each character has a unique "favor" unlock req im assuming

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hmm interesting

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i dont want too much spoilers so for now I'll just leave it at Skelly

modest mist
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Can someone explain something to me

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"Battle Rage
After slaying a foe, your next Attack or Special deals more damage."

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Is it just a one hit thats got the extra damage or does it stack for that chamber?

sly helm
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I'm not sure but it wouldn't be that hard to test

near fox
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God mode is named terribly

tepid notch
near fox
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I thought it meant god level difficulty

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I turned it on and it said damage resistance 20%

dusty vault
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ngl first time i hear that

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specially considering there is also hell mode when creating a file

tepid notch
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to make it easy and you feel like a "god" in the game or something

viscid notch
tepid notch
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like an assist mode

deft helm
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download the game, first thing that happens is that it wont even launch

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have to play the 32-bit version lmao

gray haven
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Good luck with that!

deft helm
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just had to restart my PC lol

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everythings working now!

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also, how about the symbols on the different doors? any look-up for those?

deft helm
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awesome thanks

tepid notch
kind remnant
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Someone pin this

random copper
lyric locust
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Is there any benefit to using God Mode to beat the final boss once to make subsequent runs easier, or not really?

sweet brook
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but if you're struggling to survive, god mode is fine to use

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no shame in it

solid shale
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||hades has a 2nd life wtf||

First time reached the 5th zone

solid hill
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is Aspect of Hera better than Aspect of Chiron?

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been using Chiron so far and i enjoy it a lot but now i look at the tier list in the pins and Hera is S tier, even on level 1

topaz jasper
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but chiron is arguably better for just beating the game

maiden ruin
topaz jasper
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lol true

gray haven
mighty sluice
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is bull rush when u release the shield

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when it flashes?

viscid notch
# mighty sluice when it flashes?

The shield charge will not flash without a specific hammer upgrade, which is not good anyway, a bullrush is just when you charge your attack and let go

mighty sluice
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oh

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is hades better played on controller ? but in my case i find controller difficult

viscid notch
round jacinth
mighty sluice
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is there any build guides for hades

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like what boons should i combine for a very good build for an example

gray haven
mellow ether
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hera has some great burst potential with the right cast boons

gray haven
mighty sluice
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ya iam using tht rn

round jacinth
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is there a cap on the amount of duos you can have?

viscid notch
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no

round jacinth
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oh ok thats nice

slate briar
round jacinth
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nice

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lmao 230 hp in elysium

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ill take it

mighty sluice
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when do u unlock weapon upgrades n aspects ?

merry roost
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You can unlock the regular aspects by spending blood.

gray haven
round jacinth
gray haven
merry roost
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Oh that part

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My mistake

gray haven
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Not the first time I've seen that misunderstanding here. Already prepared. dusa

sullen mortar
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what aspects should i get

gray haven
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Whatever sounds fun! If you want to know like relative strengths at different levels, you can check the pins for my guide for that.

sullen mortar
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ok

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thxs!

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hmm i think i should get the aspect of rama

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help me

mighty sluice
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how do u unlock all the weapons

sullen mortar
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ong

mighty sluice
mighty sluice
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what does it mean when something called prophercy something pops up

viscid notch
mighty sluice
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oh

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ty

mighty sluice
viscid notch
mighty sluice
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what?

viscid notch
# mighty sluice what?

I just said do a run as in start an attempt, when you finish the attempt, Zagreus dies, and returns to the House, so the seed is refreshed (aka you get different dialogue, npcs, etc in the House), it also reveals that weapon

mighty sluice
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oh ok

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thanks

dusky cradle
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Hey I was just wondering about control layouts. That was the first thing I looked at when I opened the game

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Why is the default dash not a shoulder trigger? Does that feel normal to play or have any of you changed it?

viscid notch
dusky cradle
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Thanks I was going to switch it but since I haven't played i didnt know if there was a good reason for that

lyric locust
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That recent guide that was posted was super helpful. I almost finished the last boss with it on my first use of it. (Granted, 40 attempts in, but)

deft helm
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19 runs, still can't get past meg

slate briar
balmy coyote
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I finally did it

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I beat meg

merry roost
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Congrats! Treat yourself to a nice lava bath as a reward zaglol

balmy coyote
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course!

near fox
# balmy coyote I beat meg

Oh I remember the first time I beat them. I was hype as could be. And then I burned to death in asphodel before I started bc I couldn't figure out how to get to the next room

balmy coyote
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:0

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That's how I died just now lol

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I stayed on the lava for too long

near fox
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Lmao

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I grew exponentially once I beat Meg

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Now I can make it to the final boss most of the time

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Beating Meg was like my 50th run and now I'm on my 75th

topaz jasper
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jealous

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I've never beaten meg

balmy coyote
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took me like five days dw

gray haven
balmy coyote
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Eh?

merry roost
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Oh right it's magma 🧠

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It's magma if it's inside the earth, and lava if it's surfaced

gray haven
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SGG: records voice lines about lava
SGG fans: "Actually, it's magma because it's underground."
SGG: rerecords all the lava voice lines to change it to magma
SGG fans: "I just died stepping on lava."

near fox
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Lol

merry roost
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One could argue that the surface of Asphodel is a surface, even if not the surface of the Earth.

near fox
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While that may be true, one of tur main differences between lava and magma is their consistency and I gotta say, it's defo magma

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Lava is more thick and slow moving because it cools so rapidly in the open air

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Magma is thinner and hotter as seen by how the game itself remarks at how its able to damage even the fire-footed prince of the Underworld

tepid notch
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Finally vanquished the Heroes

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got lucky with boons

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an easy way to get diamonds?
or a fast way to farm items to trade for them?

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I want to get the fishing rod

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but i spent all my diamonds

sweet brook
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You can only get them from killing the hydra or trading

leaden whale
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What does the fishing rod do

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I probably sound so stupid

viscid notch
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Then exchange them at the house chef for resources

sweet brook
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It'll pay back for itself eventually

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But also diamonds aren't worth too much other than house contractor upgrades iirc

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So you're exchanging a few diamonds for chances at gemstones, keys, nectar, and darkness

dusk onyx
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there are 2 bosses that (almost always ) kill me: ||Hades|| and ||alecto ||XD... so if i start with her i just give up my run deep down in my mind

dusk onyx
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i need help

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rn

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anyone have time?

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im going for poseidon sword combinating it with lady aphrodite's cast and hermes burst cast

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i got another of her boons and all of the picks are pretty amazing

muted pivot
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so... what do you need help with?

dusk onyx
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just a sec to send picture

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hmm wait

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this is the build

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i am starting to make

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and this are the choices

muted pivot
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i would probably go for heartbreak flourish there. the other two choices arent particularly great imo. the dash is a bit weak and the legendary isnt particularly amazing here either. putting aphro or arty on special is good for damage.

dusk onyx
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yeah iwas thinking about legendary but im using high damage cast so it doesnt really matter....

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but i hast artemis dash

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hate

muted pivot
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thats fine, you can always purge it at a pool of purging

dusk onyx
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true okay i will go with specail thanks

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i just wasnt expecting so high rarity and all similar good choices :)

dusk onyx
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it was a good run but he beat me.... :) i had no luck with other boons i was hoping for longer cast and for thr game to not give me all the minibosses possible :/

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also i couldnt replenish my death defiances even tho i had money cuz charon wasnt nice to me

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but still pretty decent run

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i had cast on lvl10

round jacinth
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what does the anvil in styx do?

mighty sluice
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if i get a god i dont want then i recycle it(the boon) in the passage do i get a new god? in the upcoming encounters

viscid notch
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So you can still get offered that god

mighty sluice
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man

viscid notch
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If you dont want the god just avoid it

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And if you're forced into it regardless you can probably play around it

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Usually you're shooting for 2 gods of your choice which are easy to get with keepsakes and 2 random gods, some are better than others sure but you can take whatever

mighty sluice
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iam trying to get athena for a duo boon

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is there any website or something showing some good possible builds i could try out btw??

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for diff weaps

gray haven
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It can be great if your two hammers you have now aren't particularly great anyway.

solid shale
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How to get the last keepsake? not the gold ones

sweet brook
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How many times have you cleared runs?

solid shale
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38, cleared once

sweet brook
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After your 10th clear you should be able to get a keepsake

solid shale
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oof,

sweet brook
lyric locust
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@solid shale - Don't lose heart. After your first clear, with the added feature, you can re-collect the special item from each boss again from each weapon. It should let you eke out more damage/utility so you can win more consistently. 🙂

sweet brook
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Also after your first clear you'll realize how more consistent you'll get to the final boss and how consistent you'll be able to clear

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I cleared 3 in a row after my first clear or something

full kayak
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I think I got first clear, then failed, then two in a row, failed again, and now I'm on a streak of 8

solid shale
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Yeah, no worries
I usually play slow, so let's see in a month

gray haven
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Spoiler tags. celina8Salt

mighty sluice
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stubborn defiance or death defiance

sweet brook
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death defiance

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for newer players, they'll probably be dying to a boss multiple times so death defiance allows that to happen

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stubborn defiance is really only if you die in like every room you walk into, and that shouldn't be the case for any new player given a bit of time

west vessel
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If you really wanna win the game each time

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Imo use Chiron bow

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With Artemis special

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It's the easiest way to win any game

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And focus completely on special damage

sweet brook
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slap aphrodite atk on that btw and get the duo

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crit damage does 150% more

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but there's other good charon builds that can go faster lol

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aphodite atk dio spl, their duo lets you stack hangover 8 times so you'll only have to shoot your special 1 or 2 times per enemy instead of 3, also utilizes privileged status, which gives you +40% extra damage

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charon kinda sucks in styx because of the small chambers so splash dash with breaking wave works great

dusk onyx
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is it a bad idea to try a run with ||max heat?||

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or will playing with ||full heat|| just make you an overalll better player?

sweet brook
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spoiler ||heat||

viscid notch
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It wont make you a better player, ||heat scales exponentially and spikes very hard at around 50, the higher you go beyond that the tougher the game is gonna get, unreasonably so, something like 62 to 64 is an insane jump, if you want to get into it start with smaller progressions: 8-16-32-40-45-50 etc||

sweet brook
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also something to keep in mind, ||heat/bounty rewards only scale up 1 at a time, so if the bounty is at 5 heat right now and you complete a run with 10 heat, you'll get the reward for 5 heat and the bounty will move onto 6||

dusk onyx
random copper
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lol no deaths so far at ||8 heat||

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when i've only beat ||1 heat|| before

sweet brook
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censor ||heat||

random copper
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im using ||EM3 and BP1|| is that good?

sweet brook
random copper
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well doing fine i guess

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no deaths, about to face ||hades||

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3 DDs

sweet brook
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i mean that's pretty good but there are eaiser ||8 heat pacts||

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||tight deadline|| is extremely easy and that gives i think ||6 heat||

random copper
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idk im kinda bad at going fast

sweet brook
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for ||td3|| anyways

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||td1 gives you 9 minutes per biome which should be plenty||

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||td2 gives you 7 per biome which is a bit faster but still generous||

random copper
#

even ||9:00|| can be annoying for me, not sure about ||7||

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i know the ranks for ||td||

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i've practically memorized the ||pact|| by now

sweet brook
#

fair enough

muted pivot
random copper
#

i've heard that ||HL and LC|| should not go together

sweet brook
#

you should check your prior runs and see how fast you go, and adjust ||td|| accordingly

random copper
#

lol first run approx 41 min

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with rail

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but i'm really fast with sword

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especially sidon sword

sweet brook
#

||td1|| should be no problem for any weapon you're comfy with

random copper
#

aight i'll give it a try for 3 ||heat||

sweet brook
random copper
#

saving up darkness for that and max gods pride

sweet brook
#

nice

random copper
#

now just wondering how i'm supposed to get max fated pers

sweet brook
#

get lucky with chaos and poseidon

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and win the run lol

random copper
#

its fine i have fated keys

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so i can hold out

sweet brook
#

the +20% darkness from your weapon is obv gonna be useful if that doesnt work but getting the bonus drops from chaos and poseidon are gonna be what gives you a ton

sweet brook
#

simply get more darkness

random copper
#

eclipse from chaos and ocean's bounty/sunken treasure from poseidon, if i'm not mistaken

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and dark thrist

topaz jasper
#

make sure that you actually have a very high chance of winning though before you start taking eclipse and dark thirst

dusty vault
#

Do it on a weapon with bounties already claimed too

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The darkness drops from bosses is huge

topaz jasper
#

since taking hp loss, reward skip, and chaos curse can snowball into death

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and beating ||dad|| is biggest source of darkness

random copper
dusty vault
#

Compared to a 10 darkness bouldy

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With the right amount of boost, final boss can drop 1k+

random copper
#

holy-

topaz jasper
#

one thing you can do is run builds that naturally force poseidon anyways

sweet brook
#

i think highest % bonus i got from chaos a single time was 98% but the curse was i lose hp per special and i was using charon bow lmao

topaz jasper
sweet brook
#

true

topaz jasper
#

I got the pleasure of using chaos attack curse with lucifer at 50 and it was super lit

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blood everywhere

sweet brook
#

got it in elysium so it was pretty hell lol

topaz jasper
#

oh in ely yeah that's bad

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there you'd have to bad zag it up

random copper
#

no hit challenge thanks to chaos

sweet brook
#

i used a DD in elysium before the boss lol

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but it all ended fine the end reward was great

random copper
#

i feel like the ||EM3|| boss fight is actually slightly easier than without ||EM||

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but idk if thats just me

sweet brook
#

||it's easier in the sense that theseus doesn't have a shield for most of the time||

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||the bull is obv a lot harder, but theseus is a lot easier. what makes the whole thing more challenging is them together at the same time because theseus provides a ton of area denial by running through the arena shooting bullets and dropping bombs while you also have to fight asterius||

random copper
#

when bull starts spinning things start to get harder but i just dashed through

sweet brook
#

also true pos sword is generally a more passive playstyle

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hit cast and special lol

random copper
#

exit wounds

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fully loaded

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mirage shot

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heart rend with aphro on atk

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sidon on special

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thats what i like to go for

sweet brook
#

i haven't played pos sword in a while but i do something similar

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i generally do aphro special because i'm not really dash striking a ton

random copper
#

special has kb

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so add more kb

sweet brook
#

fair i guess lol

random copper
#

super nova hammer is nice too

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better range

topaz jasper
random copper
#

fair enough, i can understand why

sweet brook
#

||em3|| on its own isn't too bad tho to be fair

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which is what he did

topaz jasper
#

yeah

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once ||HL5 FO2|| show up asterius becomes horrific

random copper
#

with added modifiers i can see how it can be terrible

topaz jasper
#

and theseus's area denial sucks ass

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people say "oh ||chariot theseus is so much easier to dodge vs spear|| but gold asterius demands space which theseus massively constrains

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since every bomb deals massive damage

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like 50 or something stupid

sweet brook
#

i think everyone agrees that ||chariot theseus is easier than normal theseus|| but combined with the bull makes it a nightmare

random copper
#

well thats because you dont have to worry about the damned spear that he throws at you which does like 20 dmg

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per hit

sweet brook
#

that and the shield

topaz jasper
#

meh spear is so telegraphed

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and his spin attack covers very little area

random copper
#

good point

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which is why i use arty cast

sweet brook
#

personally i just find the shield super annoying esp if i'm using charon because i can never get the timing right (skill issue)

random copper
#

and poseidon sword dislodges

topaz jasper
#

true shot gaming?

dusty vault
random copper
#

or ares cast works

sweet brook
topaz jasper
#

charon aspect is just ||arthur|| tbh

sweet brook
#

||arthur|| with extra steps

random copper
dusty vault
topaz jasper
#

cheat engine

sweet brook
#

wait crap i mixed up the names again didnt i

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god dammit lmao

random copper
#

i was so confused lol

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if only it was a thing

dusty vault
sweet brook
#

can't believe the greeks had their own version of "brian" and "bryan"

random copper
#

oh and btw

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do ||speed perks from BP|| stack with ||FO||?

dusty vault
#

Yes

random copper
#

oh god please no

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and does ||shield perk|| stack with ||DC||?

sweet brook
#

simply do not take ||bp and fo|| at the same time lol

sweet brook
#

yes they do

random copper
#

so ||BP|| stacks with ||other conditions||

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oh my goodness

sweet brook
#

lmao yeah

random copper
#

im nervous about ||AP||

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thats a pain

sweet brook
#

just make sure you always have a scrap boon every time

random copper
#

wait

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hold up

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it might not be ||AP||

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nvm it is

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||im talking about approval process||

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aight ima head out cyall

muted pivot
#

esp on ||fo2 hl5||

sweet brook
#

"oh darn there goes my sd"

muted pivot
#

more like run ended

sweet brook
#

you've got 2 chances just dont get hit twice lmao

dusk onyx
#

i saw this video on recommendet and i watchet about 5 minutes of it... it has spoilers uf corse but i have a qestion.. why does the game look so diffrentfrom mine?

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is it because im lpaying on switch and console and pc versions are diffrent

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or an loder version?

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if nothing else there is less keepsakes and they are diffrently positioned?

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the more i watch weirder it gets

faint umbra
#

it is an older version, from 2019 - its the welcome to hell update

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when the game was still in early access

dusk onyx
#

ooh okay are there any new updates planed or is the game finished now?

faint umbra
#

early access has been finished for a good while now, and as far as we know, nothing new is planned

dusky cradle
#

wow this thessius minotaur fight feels unfair

west vessel
#

i would suggest killing mino first then theseus

dusky cradle
#

i'm having so much trouble avoiding attacks long enough to hurt them

sweet brook
#

Keep the pillars between you and Theseus

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To avoid the spear throws

coarse kelp
#

Dash a lot

sweet brook
#

issue with that is you're also trying to take down the bull at the same time so you'll probably be dash attacking, which removes your iframes

near fox
#

It's fine

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I beat them 2nd try

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Trust me when I say greatest reflex is goated

dusky cradle
#

i don't think it's actually unfair i just thought it felt unfair. i've died 3 or 4 times so far never really getting close.

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should i kmnow what greatest reflex is

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i see now that it's a hermes boon. i usually take it when offered. i'm not sure if i'm undervaluing things or not understanding what i should be doing in general.

dusky cradle
near fox
#

Greatest reflex just makes dash boons better and makes all boss fights easier

sweet brook
gray haven
dusk onyx
#

it took mwe 30minutes oc spamming b tho...

dusk swift
#

I keep getting so close to beating the Minotaur and Theseus. I had the both of them like 25% heath, and I could’ve beat them if I had the lucky tooth.

topaz jasper
#

try to avoid hitting theseus much

dusk swift
#

Okay, will do. Thanks.

topaz jasper
#

yep

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theseus gains the additional god attacks which can be really bad

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so you don't want his god form and asterius up at once

dusk swift
#

Thanks for the advice. I killed Asterius and then after that I pretty easily killed Theseus aswell. Didn’t even have to use my death defiance!

stuck galleon
#

hello , i'm new and i just got to hades stage 2 ( hopefully the last ) but i cant kill him due to all the minions being so fast , the chariots are a big pain , even when i have all aoe boons or all burst

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what would be recommended to deal with those?

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hades himself is very easy to beat but the minions are giving me some trouble

sweet brook
#

spoiler the boss name and pronouns pretty much or to make it easy just spoiler the whole message

sweet brook
#

on the other hand it can be extremely build/boon dependent
what you currently think might be a good buid might not be as great as you think

stuck galleon
#

honestly loads of stuff , i found zeus boons to be really nice on the gun since i can basically instantly clear levels with the high burst aoe

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so these are usually present but i've also gone for a different aproach of using only specials' aoe with some aphrodite/dionysus dps effects

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sometimes i add the ares boons in for some quick burst but i mostly do fine with aoe , else i get wrecked by the normal enemies

quaint forge
#

ive just gotten my first diamond, what can i use it for?

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also i dont get titans blood for killing meg anymore, how else can i get it?

muted pivot
#

you can use diamonds at the house contractor. right now, you can only get titan blood from trading, but beating the game opens something up that allows you to get more

quaint forge
#

what that sucks

dusty vault
quaint forge
#

no

dusty vault
#

That way you can get more blood

quaint forge
#

oh ok

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2 per weapon right?

dusty vault
#

The first time you defeat a boss for the first time with a weapon you get the bounty

quaint forge
#

wait how did i get 3 i dont remember beating her with 3 weapons

dusty vault
#

After that it will only be dariness till a post final boss thing

dusty vault
#

Or maybe you did kill her with 3 weapons and dont remember dusa

quaint forge
#

i dont have any deal for blood

quaint forge
#

i also dont have anything for diamonds at the contractor

dusty vault
#

They should appear sooner o later ig

quaint forge
#

alr

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is meg feasible to beat early game without good ranged damage?

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i struggled a lot more with the spear than the rail

dusty vault
#

Melee weapons are kinda harder to get used but is possible

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Do you know about the dash strikes cancelling iframes no?

quaint forge
#

sorry i was playing lol

quaint forge
dusty vault
quaint forge
#

ohhh that makes sense

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i thought it was a bug when i was taking damage during spear dash strike

random copper
# quaint forge is meg feasible to beat early game without good ranged damage?

ranged damage is nice, but melee weapons can deal a lot more damage. when she's about to attack, dash through her attach to avoid damage. be careful not to attack while dashing, or the i-frames will be canceled.
dash out of the way when she dashes towards you. she pauses for a bit, so get some hits in before she attacks.
when she swings her whip, you can dash into the attack and negate all damage.
hide behind pillars when she shoots projectiles (or deflect them back with athena boon)
she will be invulnerable while summoning thugs and witches

blazing crescent
#

how do i unlock the arrows on the left side of the mirror?

viscid notch
mighty sluice
#

What are poms

mighty sluice
#

Ty

dusky cradle
viscid notch
viscid notch
#

ty

dusky cradle
viscid notch
#

Yea it's more than usual

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idk exactly how much for darkness and gemstones, might be 15

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For keys it's 2 instead of 1

dusky cradle
#

thanks

dusky cradle
#

if i trade titan blood for gemstones i'll still be able to get more right? there isn't some maximum? just concerned since it seemed to be the reward for hte first time i killed a boss with a specific weapon or something

viscid notch
dusky cradle
#

oh it was like 1 blood for 200 gems. maybe bad but i was glad to get 20 gold urns and better troves

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i just won for the first time 🙂 by far the most powerful run i've had so far

viscid notch
#

That’s good, will help you get more Titan Blood

dusky cradle
#

is there a maximum amount of nectar i can give to each person? the icon seems like it goes on forever. is there a tangible reward for maxing it out if so?

dusk onyx
#

i think the max is 5-7 for most of the people?

dusky cradle
#

thanks. sorry if these questions are dumb but

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chaos gates count as a chamber right?

dusty vault
#

Yes

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But if you go throigh one at chamber 12/22/34 it will count as an extra (so instead of arriving at meg on ch14 you arrive at ch15 for example)

dusky cradle
#

oh nice

dusky cradle
#

won another run 😄 chiron bow + artimis/zeus stuff was really good

tender gulch
#

hey, i just picked up the game a bit ago! still on my first run. what's a good aspect to unlock for the stygian blade?

dusky cradle
#

can anyone explain dark foresight? the tooltip isn't very clear. or at least i don't understand what kind of rewards it's talking about

dusky cradle
dusky cradle
#

Nemesis

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Well the strongest of the first three, i have no idea about the secret one

sweet brook
#

you get more gold laurel stuff 20% of the time which is great

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DF is lowkey one of the best mirror upgrades

dusky cradle
#

oh sweet

sweet brook
dusky cradle
#

is family favorite any good?

#

it feels like not

#

the duos are insane

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well some of them

sweet brook
#

hold on i dont remember names off the top of my head lemme pull up the wiki

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oh family favorites is good

#

considering the other option is privileged status, which is conditional

#

you're basically guaranteed 5 gods per run, 4 random ones and at least 1 from hermes so that's a 25% bonus

dusky cradle
#

i guess you're pretty likely to have hermes and two others

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5?

sweet brook
#

PS is good for certain builds like chiron tho

sweet brook
dusky cradle
#

are there only ever 4 and hermes in a run?

#

i haven't been paying attention

sweet brook
#

you'll be offered a bunch of random gods until you have 4 unique gods (not including hermes)

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and then you'll only see those same 4 gods the rest of the run

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so if i have athena, ares, and artemis currently and my door options are aphrodite and dionysus, if i take aphrodite then i'll only see athena, ares, artemis, and aphrodite

dusky cradle
#

that's interesting. i've passed on an extra boon in shops to save money on several occasions, but locking in a 4th would at least reduce the chance of random gods i don't want

sweet brook
#

yeah

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at the same time tho if the god in the shop isn't useful for your build then dont go for it

dusky cradle
#

i only have 2 wins, but from what i can tell the 4th is rarely something i'm looking for

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because i'm just trying to get boons that need qualifications

sweet brook
#

tbh every run you should only be looking for 2 gods, maybe 3

#

but you can easily force 2

dusky cradle
#

yeah that was exactly what i was thinking

#

but then every boon can just be a random other god

#

like it's not like i know what a random athena boon is going to have in a shop

sweet brook
#

generally every build's core revolves around a certain duo and then whatever you get is just a nice bonus

#

for melee weapons, a high-roll option would be to get merciful end

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nemesis could go for heart rend or deadly reversal

dusky cradle
#

this game really needed a more easy to follow ui about the boons

sweet brook
#

there's a codex

dusky cradle
#

yeah but the codex is clunky

sweet brook
#

or do you mean like a search bar or something lol

#

it's alright tho if you play the game long enough you'll get the names down

dusky cradle
#

it's far from my first roguelike rodeo but it's still easier when the information is very accessible. admittedly other games are even worse about it

sweet brook
#

lmfao

#

the wiki's always useful tho

dusky cradle
#

i should just find some mods there's gotta be some QoL stuff that makes it more streamlined

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for example, if the codex highlighed the ones you already have and the ones you already qualify for

sweet brook
#

there's a link for the modding community in this server somewhere, maybe in #self-promotion?

dusky cradle
#

that would be a huge boost

sweet brook
#

although i dont know what exaclty they have

dusky cradle
#

also something that told me what floor i'm on

sweet brook
#

i do know that it offers you the 4 core boons at the start each time so there's no starting rng

dusky cradle
#

literally a number in the corner of hte screen would be helpful lol

sweet brook
#

there is

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whenever you hit your boon info list thingy

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if you're playing on kbm it's b

dusky cradle
#

cool i never noticed it. still i think i'd prefer it just while running around

sweet brook
#

if you spam it right before entering a room you can have the room number show up but not the boon list lol

dusky cradle
#

lol that certainly won't bug anything else out

sweet brook
#

it doesnt

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i just hit the button a lot whenever entering the room and whenever the room number shows up i stop

#

it's been working fine and i have well over 200 runs in lol

dusky cradle
#

that is a neat bug

#

should be just a feature XD

sweet brook
#

maybe

dusky cradle
#

what do you mean about it offering 4 core boons at the start?

sweet brook
#

attack, special, cast, and dash boons are considered core boons

#

i think technically also call but you cant be offered that at the start

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but regarding those 4, you can only be offered 3 at a time

dusky cradle
#

you're tlaking about the boon in the very first room?

sweet brook
#

and sometimes you're not offered what you want

dusky cradle
#

are there any rules about when it's not a boon but instead a hammer?

sweet brook
#

the 4 boon options only applies to the first room

sweet brook
#

idk i dont use the mod so i dont really know

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but it's just from what i've seen

#

the mod offers you 4 instead of 3 because certain builds require different things, and not getting what you want at the start makes you waste resources

#

if you're playing a cast centered build but aren't offered it at the start, you either have to wait until the next time you see that god or use a reroll (fated persuasion upgrade in the mirror)

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and even then you might not even get what you want because rng lmao

dusky cradle
#

oh you know i didn't realize you were talking about a specific mod

sweet brook
#

oh lmao

dusky cradle
#

cause you just said there's a modding community and then started referring to "it" XD

sweet brook
#

my bad lol

#

but if you want to get into modding the link's there

dusky cradle
#

sweet thanks. i know there are some mods that increase rewards based on [i don't know how to spoiler], which is apparently not part of hte main game

#

i wonder if that's too game breaking

sweet brook
#

spoiler ||heat|| btw

sweet brook
# dusky cradle i wonder if that's too game breaking

tbh letting you complete bounties or get more of the bounty rewards when you increase the ||heat|| doesn't really do anything because you can totally max out everything you need without even finishing the bounties

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do || on either side of the message

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||like this||

dusky cradle
#

is there a max ||heat||

#

and is that what you mean by finishing the bounties?

sweet brook
#

if you just max everything on it it goes up to 64 i believe, and no one's been able to do that unmodded lol

sweet brook
dusky cradle
#

yeah

sweet brook
#

||it caps at 20 for each weapon and after that you can't get any more rewards||

dusky cradle
#

there's still the mirror. does that cap early too?

sweet brook
#

i mean

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just upgrade everything on it and it's done lol

#

idk what you mean for a cap on the mirror

#

yeah they all have a max level

dusky cradle
#

well, i think the mod that increases rewards based on ||heat|| increases darkness too. but it makes sense for that not to scale if it just doesn't take that much to max anyway

sweet brook
#

I mean I don't know much about the mod I'm just playing the base game lol

dusky cradle
#

||yeah i think it just creates a greater incentive to play higher heats once the weapons are maxed. I guess that doesn't matter in reality. I don't play Ascension 20 slay the spire because there are meta rewards||

sweet brook
#

There's always incentive to ||increase the heat|| lol

#

Get better at the game, get various achievements

#

Also there's a bunch of unfinished storylines

#

Also once you get better at the game you can try your hand at speed running lol

dusky cradle
#

unfinished storylines by the time the weapons are done or just lingering in the game that will never be completed?

sweet brook
#

You'll probably finish the storylines by the time you max all the weapons

#

That takes a while

#

The storylines might take like idk 20 runs or so if you're lucky

#

Maybe 50

#

But the weapons still might not be maxed by then lol

#

Depending how you play

#

What I did was keep the ||heat low|| and go through the runs as fast as possible to get the storylines done lol

dusky cradle
#

i'll probably just keep going up levels and then be sad when i get stuck XD

sweet brook
#

A big milestone for a lot of players is ||32 heat||

next mist
#

is a cast build fine for my first time escaping

tight mortar
#

cast builds are fun i would recommend hunting blades as its prob the best cast build

viscid notch
#

It's probably the best build for Achilles but for other cast weapons it's not

tender gulch
#

where do I go to start a new run? im at skelly rn

#

nvm

tight mortar
#

the arch bellow skelly

#

should be glowing purple

spiral kraken
#

agh

#

i just made it to the hades fight for the first time

#

died after he started his second phase

analog sparrow
#

Is there a way to improve dodging it feels worse than dark souls 2 dodging

maiden ruin
#

just learn the attack patterns of enemies

analog sparrow
#

ugh already bumped into a RNG hell road block

viscid notch
analog sparrow
#

I beat a room I got dionysus and his 3 choices are bad drunken flourish, trippy shot and drunken dash

#

how can I deny the choices? all of them seem bad

viscid notch
#

You can't

#

Take one that doesn't harm you and sell it later

#

What weapon/aspect are you playing

#

Another solution would be to not take Dionysus to begin with

analog sparrow
#

idk sword I guess

viscid notch
#

Or any god that can't offer you much

analog sparrow
#

I thought it was loot after I beat a room how was I suppose to know it was dionysus

#

I guess I'll just give up the run

viscid notch
#

Before you enter a room the laurel will indicate what the reward will be

#

If you give up runs everytime a minor thing goes wrong you wont get many runs going if any

analog sparrow
#

well all 3 choices screwed me over

viscid notch
#

Take Trippy Shot

#

And keep going

#

It's not even close to screwing you over

analog sparrow
#

all of them apply a curse

viscid notch
#

Yea

#

Trippy technically stuns enemies inside festive fog it's not really a curse

analog sparrow
#

any gods that don't debuff me?

viscid notch
#

Oh I think you're misunderstanding boons

#

They add traits to your actions basically

#

So Dionysus makes your Attack/Special/Dash apply a curse to enemies

#

Not to yourself

analog sparrow
#

oh ok

sweet brook
#

No god debuffs you lol

#

The only exception would be chaos but you don't have to take it and the debuffs goes away after a bit

#

But in return you get increased stats for the rest of the run so it's a fair trade

viscid notch
#

Yea Chaos is usually worth it

#

If you're scared of dying just take whatever curse doesn't harm you even if the buff you get after is not good

solid hill
#

what's the use for Ambrosia? i have 15 of it and no idea what it does

radiant anvil
#

Hey just Out of curiosity.

#

Im not a new player, but am i crazy or does poseidons flourish not Work with chiron aspect?

noble patio
#

It does

#

But i don't think it knock backs 8x

viscid notch
viscid notch
sweet brook
analog sparrow
#

is there any point in giving Charon more nectar?

sweet brook
#

there's no need in giving nectar to most characters after the 1st one when they give you the keepsake

analog sparrow
#

oof darn I gave him like 5 should I reset my game did I screw myself over also if that's the case why does the game let us keep giving them nectar?

maiden ruin
#

and no dont reset your game

#

just get more nectar in your runs

sweet brook
#

yeah lol there's no need to reset

#

progressing story and character bonds are also important to the game, but when starting the game the priority right now is beating the game

#

giving multiple nectars to various characters isn't important at the moment, but later on it will be

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once you've given everyone 1 nectar and have everyone's keepsake then you can start stacking the nectars onto other characters

solid hill
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which boons are good for the sword?

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i'm using the aspect that gives crit chance after special, don't remember what it's called

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it's the only weapon i haven't beaten the game with yet so i guess i should do it for the free titan blood

solid hill
sweet brook
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with nemesis, it's generally paired with artemis atk with aphrodite or athena special

solid hill
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yeah artemis attack is pretty obvious

sweet brook
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regarding hammers, hardly any of the hammers are good except for double edge, which gives your dash atks 2x damage or something

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hits twice

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arty-athena duo makes you crit more often, arty-aphrodite makes your crits deal more damage

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standard attack combo is special-dash attack-dash attack for sword

solid hill
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i'll try artemis-aphrodite

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my last attempt ended at ||Hades|| but that was a while ago

sweet brook
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with chaos you want to get atk or dash atk buffs

solid hill
sweet brook
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sword is a risky weapon only because it's a melee weapon so if you're concerned about getting hit a lot then using arty-athena isn't a bad idea so you have access to divine dash and your deflecting on your special

sweet brook
solid hill
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i used to like shield but now it feels slow compared to other weapons

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and i'm at ||6 heat||

sweet brook
# solid hill also hammers

more in depth regarding this:
double edge is the best hammer for the sword considering the standard attack combo
every other hammer is essentially pointless, but try not to pick one up that harms your build. meaning no cursed slash, no dash nova, no world splitter, stuff like that

sweet brook
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if you see an anvil in styx, probably don't buy it because you're more likely to get a hammer that'll hurt you more than help you

solid hill
sweet brook
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it's alright

solid hill
sweet brook
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the next best hammer besides double edge would probably be breaching slash so you can burn through armor faster, super nova is nice as well

sweet brook
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if you get something like dash nova then that's gonna suck lol

solid hill
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i'll try in the morning, rn i'm too tired to play

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i'm enjoying the game but it's becoming repetitive

sweet brook
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fair lol

solid hill
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i'm at 10 win streak and every run is the same

sweet brook
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using different weapons can help, upping the ||heat|| more

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trade a bit of your ambrosia for titan's blood if you need more of it
but not too much because it's still relatively important

solid hill
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i'll go now, thanks for all the help and tips

sweet brook
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np

flint loom
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best aspect for new players is sheild no contest

sweet brook
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true

topaz jasper
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true

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shield cracked

placid river
mighty sluice
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gods legacy or gods pride

tranquil nimbus
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context dependent

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if your build revolve around a duo boon/legendary then it might be good for legacy otherwise run pride

wise hornet
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im a new player and i did a spear build with 3 times dash attack but short dashes is it good?

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i managed to reach the bull of minos and theseus but i didn't beat them

viscid notch
wise hornet
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yeah i saw that option but 3x attack sounds so enticing

viscid notch
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And if you want to focus on you Special instead you look for Exploding Launcher + Charged Skewer in that order

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Yea it is attractive at first, but with Flurry you can actually buffer more dashstrikes than Serrated and you can also change their direction

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And it has no drawback

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So it's overall considered the strongest on weapons that are compatible with it

wise hornet
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i am compatible with the spear the most

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i can't do well with other weapons

viscid notch
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Well Flurry Jab is strictly a spear hammer, but some spears can't get it, such as the Hades Aspect

tranquil nimbus
wise hornet
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when you choose between 2 god boons is the option you dont pick always tries to kill you?

gray haven
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Yeah.

wise hornet
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oh i get it now you also get the other one if you beat the chamber

viscid notch
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yup

somber frigate
somber frigate
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Ok then I’m dumb

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Disregard what I said

wind perch
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Hello, I have a question. If I equip a keepsake that "forces" a specific god boon at next opportunity, does it work until I take the boon, or just spawns a door choice once? As in, if I choose the other (non-god) door, will the keepsake still "force" the god choice again next time, or is the opportunity lost then?

viscid notch
wind perch
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cool, thank you :)

dusky cradle
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when you reroll does it change the rarity?

sweet brook
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Yes

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You technically can roll for rarity but it's generally not worth it

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Unless you're rolling for legendary/duo then definitely do that