Of course you will. It just takes time
#h1-for-new-players
buoyant jay
peak yew
yeah! doing the shield now
Stop by and hang if you'd like I've been doing most of my runs on stream
winged crescent
Stop by and hang if you'd like I've been doing most of my runs on stream
link?
robust lark
Congratulations!
winged crescent
https://www.twitch.tv/whatsuptock
my internet is actually terrible lol
I'll be back
grave storm
#self-promotion for stream links
winged crescent
I won with a blade dash build I think
I'm thinking about going ares special for my bow build
yes or no?
celest fox
Nah not for normal bow
Bow special is usually not useful
Get dash strikes down
Dash strike powerstrikes
polar finch
hera you just wanna keep pomming your cast
winged crescent
I think I went with festive fog
polar finch
err are you using 3 casts or the recharging one?
polar finch
like how many casts do you have
winged crescent
just the 1 I think
polar finch
or uh bloodstones*
celest fox
It's a mirror upgrade
winged crescent
oh
celest fox
Behind keys I believe
winged crescent
ok
polar finch
hera with a single cast isnt gunna turn out very well
winged crescent
well i didnt know
polar finch
id get the mirror upgrade right away for the second and third bloodstones and use aphrodite cast
winged crescent
which does what again?
polar finch
aphro cast inflcts weak and a lot of damage. its prefered over dio cast because the cast stones pop out right away after you kill an enemy instead of lingering in a cloud
uh actually have you unlocked the second dash yet?
polar finch
cuz thats in the same tier of mirror upgrades as the bloodstones
polar finch
idk how to unlock more bloodstones
so seemed possible you just havent put the keys in yet and didnt have the dashes either if you didnt know about the bloodstones
winged crescent
I can dash twice tho
I haven't used any keys on the mirror
only upgraded what's given to you from the start
polar finch
yeah nvm
polar finch
Yeah unlock the first layer at least
||ri and key unlock order is different||
grave storm
Does the first unlock not include double dash?
winged crescent
I'm pretty sure I can double dash
polar finch
base mirror is the first 4 perks not 3
grave storm
woops 
celest sinew
I have all the mirror buffs unlocked. Is there a priority build for the mirror of night I can look up?
winged crescent
base mirror is the first 4 perks not 3
I have greater reflex
which let's me dash twice.
polar finch
yeah we know
winged crescent
Eris or Hestia?
polar finch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/895331680062165022/931045735280029756/u...
usually like this with fiery and shadow being swappable and infernal and stygian depending on aspect. gods pride vs legacy is also build dependent but most of the time you want pride
polar finch
Eris or Hestia?
hestia needs to be leveled up quite a bit so id go eris first
peak yew
<#505164873328754688> for stream links
Sorry!
Just stomped out last boss with that shield run lmao
winged crescent
should I put anymore blood into it ?
peak yew
It was kinda messy but it ended up working out
winged crescent
got 3 left
polar finch
eris benefits quite a bit from levels ofc but tbh that more of something from you to decide depending whether you like the aspect
polar finch
special. you want flat damage on attack aka zeus
polar finch
dio and ares. artemis has support fire
celest sinew
@polar finch ty!
What boons/buffs should I look for one a shield(normal version) run?
polar finch
What boons/buffs should I look for one a shield(normal version) run?
i guess id either do doom attack start, grab athena special and hope for merciful end or zeus special start grab supporting t2s and aphro attack
celest sinew
What do you mean by "start"
polar finch
like equip their keepsake and try to get a specific first boon
celest sinew
@polar finch ohh! I complete forgot about my keepsake. I usually keep the +undamge+backstab one on by default but I see now the value in the specific god keepsake when trying to make a build.
modern vortex
What Daedalus boon I should take when I use shield
kind remnant
Depends on the build but I'm a fan of the 20% damage boost when you block cause you always be blocking
winged crescent
just beat Elysium with shield
robust lark
Next time
winged crescent
Just maxed out my bloodstones and got the Hera aspect
@celest fox I nearly cleared my first run at 12 attempts
had the final boss at 20% health then my brain went stupid and I messed up.the pattern I had going
so close yet so far
celest fox
Nice
frosty girder
My first clear was after 50 runs. Almost all of them were with rail. Then I switch to fists for 2 games and clear it immediately.
viscid notch
Rng
Oh
Well you have to reach the surface once
For that
Otherwise rng / god pool full
Also spoiler the name
winged crescent
how
winged crescent
Well you have to reach the surface once
almost have done that
go to end game and died
polar finch
final boss counts as surface
polar finch
yeah
winged crescent
nice
viscid notch
Yea it counts
winged crescent
how do I hide spoilers?
viscid notch
|| on both sides
ivory ocean
double lines on each side
ivory ocean
there you go
pure pilot
any tips for ||Hades||? that ||green ring|| always hits me
Dash over it. Don't try to dash away from it
viscid notch
Dashing grants you iframes but dash striking strips those iframes so if you’re trying to dodge attacks do not try to attack at the same time because you get hit
winged crescent
got it
gray haven
Collection of some old messages I wrote for the fight. Might help you. https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit?usp=sharing
winged crescent
the fire is what killed me last time
winged crescent
Collection of some old messages I wrote for the fight. Might help you. <https://...
yeah that looks really helpful
I died because I wasn't behind one of the rocks all the way
gray haven
Keep in mind the safe area is wider the more distance you have from the rock.
gray haven
Or bull-rush through it. You're invincible during a Bull Rush.
winged crescent
If you’re using a shield you can block that
I don't know why I didn't think of that
I think turned off my brain for the fight to concentrate
big dumb
winged crescent
should I have picked something other than aspect of zag?
lyric condor
for which weapon?
winged crescent
fists
humble herald
Gilga might be better or maybe comparable in sheer damage output with the buffs from maim and being able to run RR, in spite of the clunk. It's comparable against bosses compared to Demeter at the top level anyway
simple vector
ooh i just got rail
eternal fable
how to get aspects
humble herald
unlock all the weapons, do one more run (win or lose doesn't matter), return to the courtyard, interact with whatever weapon you have equipped
winged crescent
ooh i just got rail
how you liking it?
eternal fable
unlock all the weapons, do one more run (win or lose doesn't matter), return to ...
ok thanks
white finch
so I just started a run and there's a daedulus hammer and a chaos gate but chaos told me to enter the gate. What do?
cloud shuttle
chaos
white finch
he gave me crap 😂
pseudo narwhal
the game really tries to get you two hammers
so dw you'll get another few hammers soon enough
white finch
I know the one always spawns in elysium right?
pseudo narwhal
not always
white finch
I have missed the first floor one a couple times...
pseudo narwhal
But you almost always have an opportunity to get two
I wouldn't worry, I would guess you get one in ||Elysium, not sure if it's a spoiler|| then you can probably get one in|| the fourth area||
buoyant jay
Going for my third win later today
cosmic seal
heyo
which aspects should I unlock first? Im kinda new to the game 🙂
in your opinion obv
hard shell
which aspects should I unlock first? Im kinda new to the game 🙂
Really depends on how you like to play. Some of the "best" aspects are weak with low titan blood, like Chiron
cosmic seal
I got six so far
also do I focus maxing out one aspect at a time or do I get multiple?
hard shell
When I was starting I did one at a time
But it sucks when you drop a bunch of blood into a weapon only to not like it
viscid notch
Yea just gotta yolo 
robust lark
I waited until I got enough blood to unlock the next tier for all weapons.
Not sure I would do that again next time
Then again, my playstyle is mainly 'pick whatever has Dark Thirst' so
hard shell
I think the way to go is unlock most of the aspects, play with them at low level, and then decide which one(s) you really like and want to upgrade
gray haven
There's no right or wrong. Follow your heart. 
hard shell
but the only issue is some of them aren't great when not upgraded. Chiron, Chaos, Hestia, and Demeter
cosmic seal
I see I see
gray haven
Demeter at Lv.1 still has better DPS than the other Malphon aspects.
hard shell
rail imo
viscid notch
Eris very easy to get big damage with
cosmic seal
uh also what about the mirror? I honestly have no clue which ones I pick
buoyant jay
Eris rail is awesome
viscid notch
But the same can be said for other aspects too, I think it’s a good idea to learn what works well with each weapon
buoyant jay
I beat my second run with it
gray haven
Depends on how much guidance you get or want, anyway.
cosmic seal
wym?
hard shell
uh also what about the mirror? I honestly have no clue which ones I pick
Personally I go for the red side for the first 8 talents and yellow for the last 4
gray haven
I mean how powerful an aspect is depends a lot on builds and tactics.
buoyant jay
What’s the best first aspect for fists? I wanna do fists for my next run
gray haven
They're all fine.
hard shell
As for the mirror you want greater reflex and as much death defiance as you can afford
robust lark
I recommend Stubborn Defiance myself, until you're rich enough to max out Death Defiance at some point
hard shell
I could see it being helpful really early, but DD quickly outclasses it once you're not dying to normal enemies
gray haven
Here are some decent tips for the mirror: #h1-for-new-players message
gray haven
I could see it being helpful really early, but DD quickly outclasses it once you...
||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel.
robust lark
Stubborn Defiance is fantastic because it allows you to make a lot of mistakes and not be punished for it, and allows you to be muuuuch more aggressive in your playstyle which is generally what new players need to learn.
DD is much better if you are walled by a specific fight and can get there clean
gray haven
I've seen plenty of players who struggled on their runs with SD win first try when switching to DDs.
Just an anecdote.
robust lark
Precisely what I said! 😄
gray haven
No, not quite.
But anyway, if I saw them succeed I was probably helping in some way or another during the run, so sample bias lol.
robust lark
If you need multiple defiances in a single fight, DD is better. If you need defiances spread over multiple fights, SD is better. SD allows you to be more unsafe and aggressive in mob rooms. DD allows you to clear bosses you couldn't clear.
If you need neither, then DD also wins cause it lets you ignore a lot of damage on bosses by just facetanking.
hard shell
I suppose if you're dying to regular encounters, SD could be better. I think I reached the point of dying mostly to bosses before I had saved up enough to buy SD
But if someone is taking longer to get good at the game, and they have enough to afford SD but they are still dying randomly, it could be good
gray haven
Even if you lose some DDs here and there, you can easily refill them.
rich osprey
blood frenzy is almost useful on SD therefore it's baller choice
rich osprey
i think I'd take it more if i had sd but idk maybe im weird
humble herald
It's still pretty useful in boss fights on DDs, even though you can't use it every single room the way you hypothetically (and probably inadvisedly) could on SD
gray haven
Yeah. Common is very whatever, but epic is at least noticeable in boss fights.
humble herald
Yes
leaden whale
theres a whip crack sound as the cutscene shifts to zags room
ill leave you to interpret what that means
crude palm
LMFAO
crude palm
Yes
Thanks
I kinda guessed that at least meg was into bd- y'know what and probably convinced zag too
Poor man must be traumatized
leaden whale
Here are some decent tips for the mirror: https://discord.com/channels/456889434...
Oh wow so people we're lying when they were saying channel links are working properly on mobile now
But that's the less important part, what matters is that it's a nice mini-guide for mirror which honestly came in handy, sweet
humble herald
Poor man must be traumatized
"I think I'll choose the painful way" no trauma here
crude palm
Lol
simple vector
i just unlocked aspects i only have 4 or 5 titans blood
what should i get
i normally liek spear or shield but i just got rail and i love it
polar finch
if you like rail then eris is good and strong at low levels
simple vector
are there any that are head and shoulders above the rest?
gray haven
Any shield, bow, or rail tbh. Except Zag Rail at Lv.5 isn't much better than base rail. But then again, base rail is still rail.
Chaos Aspect is very underwhelming at low levels.
And for me still quite underwhelming at Lv.5, but it's still a shield.
restive portal
are there any that are head and shoulders above the rest?
Not really since the game is vaguely balanced
Depends on how you play.
gray haven
Hmmm. Achilles Aspect can also keep up with those three weapons.
Nemesis and Poseidon can have good DPS but melee is just a lot more risky in Hades.
hard shell
are there any that are head and shoulders above the rest?
I feel like hammers do a lot more to make weapons OP than aspects do
restive portal
You can unlock a weapon and immediately start a run to test it (don't re-enter the house before you start). Providing you give up the run you'll go back to the courtyard before you unlocked the weapon
A lot of weapons synergize best with a few specific hammers. This is why bow is good for beginners, because it has a wide range of hammers it works pretty well with.
gray haven
The only Lv.1 aspects that are "OP", if you can call it that, are Hera and the hidden shield because the levels don't actually matter that much with the right builds.
Like, Hera levels in a strong build only matter for boss fights.
gray haven
But in weaker builds and if you're not playing as aggressive, it can make a very real difference anywhere.
humble herald
Any shield, bow, or rail tbh. Except Zag Rail at Lv.5 isn't much better than bas...
It's at least significantly better at running spread fire 
leaden whale
if you like rail then eris is good and strong at low levels
what if you hate rail but still somehow get somewhere with it
celest sinew
Whats a good keepsake to pair with fist?
buoyant jay
That was my best third fight run yet! I took barely any damage
viscid notch
Whats a good keepsake to pair with fist?
Usually you want Zeus or Ares on the attack so you can start with that for Tartarus
buoyant jay
And I bought the titans blood from Styx
simple vector
@hard shell yeah true aspects are just a bigger investment
buoyant jay
POG I got my third win
buoyant jay
So for fists I should start with aspect of zag?
Yeah I’ll just do that
What’s a good build for it
sour oxide
if you're quick at clearing encounters try using lambent plume for Even More Dodge
buoyant jay
I’m using tight deadline so I’ll need to be quick anyways. I guess I’ll try it if it shows
sour oxide
lambent plume is hermes' keepsake!
it adds dodge chance + move speed per encounter cleared quickly
buoyant jay
lambent plume is hermes' keepsake!
Oh. Thanks. I’ll see if I have it, I should
fresh current
zag fists are kinda meeehhhhhh
dusty vault
Dodge builds are fun
fresh current
for starting out with fists the most efficient blood to be spent is probably on talos
Dodge is nice but as far as a fist aspect zag is rather bland. I think of zag as a fist aspect to be picked up and played a little after your introduction to fists themselves. Even at max, that dodge chance really boost you much at all if you're not already familiar weaving around with fists to begin with
Wheras i feel talos provides a little more of an immediate power boost for the smallest investment possible. Having the meathook at your disposal to fish enemies out of a crowd and learn to stick and weave in 1v1s is a good way to get yourself used to fists without having to dive into crowds of enemies with nothing but your knuckles
buoyant jay
Really? I have 4 titans blood so I could try talos after this
fresh current
drop 1 in talos and see how you like it
buoyant jay
Ok
fresh current
the meathook mechanic and how it changes your play is the real star of the show. The damage boost from additional blood investment is great, but talos is one of those that gives you 90% of the aspect from Go.
Zag fist isn't bad but it doesn't actively boost your power output in any way no matter the investment you put in. It's bonus is softer and rewards a higher skillcap player more who doesn't get hit as much to begin with
dusty vault
Is the attack-cast boost really that great
fresh current
Is the attack-cast boost really that great <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Talos fists is the reason Aphro cast is a good cast
if you haven't tried it, you owe it to yourself. you basically become a whimsical doomslayer
fresh current
sauntering through hell, reeling enemies in and blasting them at point blank with a triple load of 00-Love
dusty vault
I like it with poseidon sword
fresh current
nothing like it
dusty vault
Achilles boost is fun tho wants quick reload
fresh current
unbelievable burst damage too with Talos' extra cast buff
dusty vault
Like talos (for bosses)
fresh current
yeah talos is more a mob killer with its cast than a boss killer
fresh current
with that said, i'm pretty sure there's not a non-boss enemy in the game that isn't either one-shotted or hanging on by a thread after a talos uppercut and 3 blasts of aphro cast
serious, serious point damage on demand and you get to get your cast stones right back
simple vector
so im playing an eris bow run focused on zeus attack and lightning and stuff
dusty vault
serious, serious point damage on demand and you get to get your cast stones righ...
Thats poseidon sword too 
simple vector
i have targeting system for my hammer
viscid notch
Ah yes Eris bow
simple vector
zeus attack, athena special, artemis cast, support fire, zeus dash, and binding flash.
what should i pom
or what should i prioritize
fresh current
attack unless it's already pommed to hell and back
viscid notch
1 pom in attack and special is okay
fresh current
eris builds live and die by the strength of zeus attack
viscid notch
That’s not really correct
fresh current
not that they ever die, of course
simple vector
with support fire i feel like this build might get s t r o n g
fresh current
I'd argue it's the single most important stat, what other areas moves the needle that much in an eris setup?
fresh current
with support fire i feel like this build might get s t r o n g
yeah you're in for a good time
dusty vault
Static discharge/tidal dash
viscid notch
^
dusty vault
Theya re way better pom targets
viscid notch
And your Special obviously
fresh current
ok, that's fair. forgot about dash
buoyant jay
Explosive upper, colossus knuckle, or concentrated knuckle. Aspect of zag
fresh current
explosive
simple vector
should i try to pom support fire or zeus attack cuz rn attack would go from 10-14 while support fire will fo from 14-16
fresh current
colossus is a fun meme on talos if it's the one im remembering, and if concentrated knuckle is the one that talks about bonuses to consecutive attacks it's garbage
dusty vault
should i try to pom support fire or zeus attack cuz rn attack would go from 10-1...
Attack in this ocassion ig
fresh current
explosive upper is great on every fist aspect out there. top 3 fist hammer all around. burn that one in the memory bank.
viscid notch
Yea attack first pom is okay
viscid notch
Whats the third
simple vector
lightning reflexes lol
fresh current
dont let haters tell you lightning rod is bad. there can be more useful boons but it's a great way to deal passive damage in a large zone without thinking hard about it.
viscid notch
Can you roll
fresh current
i don't know if i'd take it over high voltage because that may buy you more power later
dusty vault
Rod or high roll to splitting bolt lmao
fresh current
but rod is an excellent "hey, neat" duo to pick up. Straight up +damage, totally passive. Mailbox damage, best kind
dusty vault
Rod is neat
fresh current
mmhmmm. people spit on it and i think they could stand to come down out of their ivory towers a little
viscid notch
Cant go wrong with rod
fresh current
regardless of whether it's optimal DPS, damage you can deal without thinking about it is always a plus
and it has quiiiite the lightning zone on it. it can be a major support boon for the final boss fight
dusty vault
Also is eris so better yet
fresh current
precisely
simple vector
nooo i lost to skeleton lava hydra guy
buoyant jay
Love when I kill Theseus while he’s talking. Shut up
Bruh they’re really offering exclusive access in the room with the sack 😑
grave storm
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gray haven
Really? I have 4 titans blood so I could try talos after this
Honestly, I enjoy Talos a lot but it's a contender for worst aspect in the game overall. The debuff is weak and only single-target. Zag and Demeter are quite a bit better.
Safest way to apply the debuff is gonna be to press Dash immediately after you press Special. If you do it right, you'll pull them in and immediately dash (and skip the Uppercut doing that). Zagreus's pull animation should barely be visible, you basically just see a quick purple flash before the Dash and that's it.
At a high level, you're pretty much only seeing that; no one's waiting for the Uppercut. It's too slow and doesn't do enough damage.
winged crescent
so I bought the fishing rod for 1 diamond
why? lol
viscid notch
To fish
uneven sun
To fish
valid shoal
Fishing is fun and gets you very good items
gray haven
To cat
winged crescent
Fishing is fun and gets you very good items
am I doing it on any floor? or?
gray haven
Yeah, you'll find out pretty naturally if you just do runs.
valid shoal
You will see a hole in a room with water in it, and when you clear the room you’ll hear a “ding”
It’s not every room the chances work kinda weird but you’ll see it a few times per run
winged crescent
okay
leaden whale
you get one of poseidens legendary ur first run with the rod iirc
buoyant jay
I only caught a fish once out of like four times I saw it
leaden whale
at the start
leaden whale
I only caught a fish once out of like four times I saw it
r u ussually too early or late
buoyant jay
r u ussually too early or late
Too early
leaden whale
The trick is to use audio cues and not visual ones
buoyant jay
Honestly, I enjoy Talos a lot but it's a contender for worst aspect in the game ...
Would you say it’s still worth a try anyway? I only spent one titans blood on it
winged crescent
I only caught a fish once out of like four times I saw it
I made it to the final boss but died
valid shoal
I do if there is a big flash of white above the fishing hole, and the bobber will only bob up to 3 times, 4th will always be a bite
leaden whale
humans react faster to sounds than sights and it a more clear tell
valid shoal
humans react faster to sounds than sights and it a more clear tell
No? Light travels much faster than sound
viscid notch
Would you say it’s still worth a try anyway? I only spent one titans blood on it
Definitely, every aspect is worth a try, to form your own opinions on it atleast
leaden whale
humans react to sounds a bit faster
winged crescent
humans react to sounds a bit faster
facts
buoyant jay
Definitely, every aspect is worth a try, to form your own opinions on it atleast
Yeah I want to eventually clear with every aspect. I’ll try it out now
leaden whale
and those speeds dont matter at this distance lol
buoyant jay
I made it to the final boss but died
Nice job making it to the final boss. You’ll beat him eventually
winged crescent
I'm determined af to kill him today
getting to him isn't an issue for me anymore
especially with shield throw
buoyant jay
Shield is cool. I just did my first win with it today
winged crescent
nice
leaden whale
No? Light travels much faster than sound
Quick google search “Many researchers have confirmed that reaction to sound is faster than reaction to light. Perhaps this is because an auditory stimulus only takes 8-10 ms to reach the brain, but a visual stimulus takes 20-40 ms.”
about 0.1 seconds faster
valid shoal
Weird
buoyant jay
Alright what’s a good build for talos fists
leaden whale
idk if its the best but a decent one is aphro strike, ares special and try to get curse of longing and sweet surrendee
buoyant jay
Ok I’ll try it
dusty vault
Alright what’s a good build for talos fists
Same as other fists so lightning strike/ares attack start
Lightning look for static discharge/ares can look for merciful end (duo with athena needs athena special, and dash for optimal use)
buoyant jay
Sounds good. Zeus tends to be really useful
fresh current
Zeus for attack, big damage like aphro or ares for special, Athena dash is a gold standard but ares dash works weirdly well with fists considering how much dashing around you do in a small space
dusty vault
With talos can also do fun yo yo builds
Tho boss dmg is uh... Bad
(or atleast im my attempts)
fresh current
Any big damage single-shot is going to make bank with talos’ meathook. My favorite is aphro for raw damage and the doomslayer experience, but you basically can’t go wrong as long as it’s not a non-lodging cast like ares
buoyant jay
Draining cutter, quake cutter, or heavy knuckle?
dusty vault
Quake is aight
fresh current
Quake is probably the most helpful
buoyant jay
K
fresh current
Draining is only half good with Demeter aspect where you use your uppercut often as a damage dealer, and even then
And heavy knuckle was what I was thinking of earlier when I said it makes a fun meme build with talos. Pretty doodoo beyond that too
dusty vault
Ig draining is neat for styx rat (i hope) but uh
fresh current
As a general rule, the faster a weapon fires the more it likes Zeus attack boons. Fists and gun take this to its logical extreme and you see the results
dusty vault
Rail also benefits from not stunning enemies
buoyant jay
As a general rule, the faster a weapon fires the more it likes Zeus attack boons...
Yeah I used eris rail and that was a really good run
dusty vault
So static discharge procs more often
dusty vault
If you go in
Remember to spoiler mark things about ||pact of punishment, but it doesnt||
Is still one less combat chamber so still you save time
buoyant jay
For second hammer should I choose breaching cross, rolling knuckle, or concentrated knuckle?
gray haven
Always Breaching Cross on Malphon.
gray haven
Would you say it’s still worth a try anyway? I only spent one titans blood on it
All of the aspects are perfectly viable. Talos is fun.
humble herald
As a general rule, the faster a weapon fires the more it likes Zeus attack boons...
Same principle for flurry jab on zag spear or achilles
fresh current
Breaching cross is the second in the trinity of fist hammers
fresh current
And probably the best among them overall. Explosive upper, breaching cross and kinetic launcher are the hammers you’re always happy to see with fists. Honorable mention to rolling knuckle too
gray haven
@buoyant jay A couple of strong Talos builds that make good use of the aspect are:
(1) ||Blizzard Shot|| starting Flood Shot and then going for ||Lady Demeter|| boons to unlock the Duo Boon, and ideally Deadly Strike to also get Mirage Shot. The drawback of ||Blizzard Shot|| is that it keeps knocking enemies out of its AOE, but with Talos you can just pull them right back into it. The pull also procs Razor Shoals, so that's quite nice.
(2) Drunken Strike + Trippy Shot and then Black Out, with lots of poms on both core boons. Lord Zeus boons and ||Lady Demeter boons|| optional to unlock Duo Boons for Trippy Shot. Weak, Doom, and crits optional to unlock Duo Boons for Hangover. Poseidon, as mentioned above, has Razor Shoals for the pull, so that's always nice. And Divine Dash is always great on Malphon. Synergies all around.
Infernal Soul and Stygian Soul both work for both builds. If you start Stygian Soul, you'll want to get more ammo from Master Chaos and Wells of Charon as your top priority.
vocal island
So I recently beat the game for the first time using the Rail. My question is whats the next best course of action? Using blood on a different aspect of the rail or using a different weapon completely? Even changing the aspect seems to make the rewards different.
Basiclly I want to make sure Im being as efficient with my playthroughs as possible.
gray haven
Changing your rail aspect won't change anything as far as rewards go.
If you want efficiency, max out your best aspect first and ||use that to farm bounties, then max out aspects with other weapons and farm with those, etc||.
vocal island
bounties being rewards from beating each zones boss?
buoyant jay
Yes
vocal island
i barely understood the heat thing and it maxed after i beat a boss or two with only 1 thing selected
buoyant jay
It does that with every weapon, then it increases per ||1 heat up to 20 heat||
So if you beat with the shield you have to do ||two heat||with shield to get more bounties
buoyant jay
i barely understood the heat thing and it maxed after i beat a boss or two with ...
I think you have to spoil mentions of ||heat|| in new players section
vocal island
Ah, thanks for the info. Also sorry
Are there any penalties for instantly quitting if you dont like the first reward given?
Or is it just considered 'rerolling'
dusty vault
Seed doesnt change if you "give up"
Need to die or complete a run ||(doe with style)|| to change it
buoyant jay
You can also use a keepsake to force a certain god
dusty vault
Also any progress you did gets reseted (nectar to olympians for example) if you give up
vocal island
ok one more newbie question, i know nectar to each god gets a keepsake but is there any benefit to 'maxing' nectar with a certain god? or should i ask that elsewhere?
vocal island
ah i think i just figured out exactly what you mean, ha
buoyant jay
Aside from that, the gods that give boons don’t really give anything
Oh and I think maxing out friendship affects the keepsakes too
I only maxed out one character so I’m not sure if this works with all
gray haven
Oh and I think maxing out friendship affects the keepsakes too
It doesn't have any gameplay effect on keepsakes.
leaden whale
equiping the keepsake is what increases their effect
peak yew
Wish you all luck with ya runs!
I'mma be tring to acquire a new weapon today
Maybe 2 or 3!
kind remnant
Git em all
peak yew
I will soon, I probably won't be streaming long enough today to get all 5 though I gotta work early tomorrow -.-
By end of the weekend I should have em tho 😄
kind remnant
Skip work to stream all day
peak yew
haha naaah cant be doin that
buoyant jay
How many hours have you played so far
peak yew
uhhhh I can answer that a bit later, started playing last Friday tho
wish me luck on this last boss fight tho this build is botox busted
winged crescent
winged crescent
should I have saved my titan blood instead of unlocking an aspect for shield, 2 for fist, gun and bow?
leaden whale
no its fine, try to unlock aspects where the stat is says doesnt look that important
quick drum
Honestly, I enjoy Talos a lot but it's a contender for worst aspect in the game ...
are there even contenders for that? I thought it was very clearly hidden fists
winged crescent
what's a duo for chaos shield? I remember reading something about a curse of nasuesa.
I'm thinking Dio and Aphro
leaden whale
Nausea is Dio Ares (makes hangover proc 3 times per second instead of 2)
im on the fence about dio but i like ares on special bcz it can apply doom to many enemies at once
winged crescent
I had doom on special and Athena on attack first time I got to ||Hades||
got to ||2nd phase||
leaden whale
yea ME is fun
winged crescent
but died to ||fire beam||
For Dio Ares
Dio on cast?
Ares on special?
what for attack?
because I can force an early Ares and Dio
leaden whale
for Curse of Nausea youd want Dio attack and Ares special with p stat
u dash to some one, throw sheilds and attack for hangocee
winged crescent
p stat?
leaden whale
privileged status
winged crescent
idk what that is
leaden whale
a mirror talent, red side of family favorite
winged crescent
I'm still saving up 20 keys
got like 13 or 14
winged crescent
wbu this Zeus Poseidon on rail i was reading?
leaden whale
rail attacks fast so its good with lightning bcz it adds a lightning strike to each shot
and if poseiden attack then you take sea storm
winged crescent
are they a duo?
leaden whale
sea storm is the Zeus Poseideon duo
winged crescent
how would I set this up
I'm dumb
leaden whale
start with zues keepsake and take zues attack first boon
winged crescent
whoops don't have his keepsake yet
leaden whale
rip
winged crescent
rip
I'll run shield
and just grab both Zeus and poseidons keepsakes if I can
if I have one attack can I replace it with another?
leaden whale
yes but its rare so dont count on it
winged crescent
okay
winged crescent
is 30 keys the last amount I need to upgrade the mirror?
polar finch
yeah should unlock the last 3 of the 12
winged crescent
nice
kind remnant
I'll run shield
and just grab both Zeus and poseidons keepsakes if I can
Good thing to do early on is give everyone one nectar to get all the keepsakes
winged crescent
do you get the keepsake only on the first gift?
I think I gave some away not thinking about Posedion
kind remnant
Correct
winged crescent
I can share screenshots here?
winged crescent
how many god keepsakes are there?
winged crescent
thats the answer i was looking for
thanks
kind remnant
Have you beat a run yet?
winged crescent
yes. took me 20 attempts
kind remnant
Nice well you may have noticed || a new god that shows up, you need hers too ||
winged crescent
I finished the end cut scene. got sent back, talked to people. noticed the exit door has a ||orange skull on it|| then got off lol
kind remnant
Play and see
winged crescent
okay
quick drum
and if poseiden attack then you take sea storm
just dont take poseidon attack on rail
unless you want a meme build with hidden rail
winged crescent
unless you want a meme build with hidden rail
I don't have hidden rail yet
or any hidden weapons
quick drum
but super soaker is a good meme
winged crescent
what lol
viscid notch
Otherwise Poseidon attack has very low scaling and the knockback is just hard to work with
Not worth it on anything
Special has good scaling so it's okay on some stuff
winged crescent
Seastorm is Zeus and Poseidon right?
viscid notch
Yup
It makes your knockback effects proc lightning bolts
aka it makes lighting bolts your source of damage
winged crescent
would i put poseidon on special for rail?
and Zeus on attack?
viscid notch
There are better options
And you want other stuff from Poseidon on Rail
Such as Dash -> Razor Shoals / Breaking Wave
Artemis or Aphrodite on Special are usually the go to
or a decent rarity Athena ||Demeter||
winged crescent
how do you get duos anyway? I'm still confused on that
viscid notch
Duos have prerequisites from both Gods
Once you fulfill those it can be offered by either god
You can check prereqs on Wiki or your Codex if you have a that upgrade for it
winged crescent
Oh ok
is there somewhere to find builds so I don't have to rely on discord for information?
viscid notch
is there somewhere to find builds so I don't have to rely on discord for informa...
Might contain spoilers so I'll link it in #h1-builds-and-combat
viscid notch
Well it depends on what you're upgrading
winged crescent
wait
what are ||summons||? I just read that
viscid notch
||Items that npcs can give you to help you in battle||
sour oxide
summons are ||something you get if you raise affection enough with some people - they give zagreus a cuddly toy and he can use that to summon them for combat for a little while||
winged crescent
with the ||ambrosia|| right?
sour oxide
yup!
winged crescent
and you raise affection with nectar?
sour oxide
ambrosia and the existence/use thereof doesn't need to be spoilered i don't think, just the storylines
marble mountain
Like boss 4?
winged crescent
wdym?
sour oxide
and you raise affection with nectar?
yup, and then there's a little lock symbol in the codex - ||there's a quest, called a favour, which unlocks that heart and if you complete that then you get the cthonic companion/summon||
marble mountain
And some hearts are lock due to story
winged crescent
speaking of cthonic
is there any use of them after upgrading the mirror to max?
marble mountain
speaking of cthonic
is there any use of them after upgrading the mirror to max?
Yes
winged crescent
oh?
viscid notch
There isn't a use for the actual keys but you pick them up in runs because they give you a fated roll for Persuasion/ Authority once you have that contractor upgrade
marble mountain
It can be used to buy nectar for 5 keys
viscid notch
Or you could use them for trading
sour oxide
you can use them to re-spec the mirror, and you can also trade them for stuff with the wretched broker, and yes, they give you fated rolls
winged crescent
||fated rolls?||
marble mountain
you can use them to re-spec the mirror, and you can also trade them for stuff wi...
||that is a spoiler my dude||
viscid notch
It's the currency that the last Mirror upgrade uses
marble mountain
||fated rolls?||
Spoiler for a mid-late game consumable
winged crescent
got it
marble mountain
👌
sour oxide
||that is a spoiler my dude||
how so?
viscid notch
It's not really a spoiler since you can get it before beating the game
winged crescent
anything I should know about after finishing my first run?
marble mountain
anything I should know about after finishing my first run?
Grind for gems
winged crescent
okay
marble mountain
It will save you a lot of grief later down the line
winged crescent
I've noticed
I still need to upgrade the || green path|| for the mirror
viscid notch
Well you'll need to grind for everything
I wouldn't say Gems specifically
So just play the game
winged crescent
I had no idea the mirror had another path
marble mountain
||in order to get the last Olympian in the codex you need to reach the surface ||
viscid notch
Yea the mirror has 2 sides
winged crescent
I've maxed out the purple path
almost
need 30 keys
for grinding gems i use the weapons that's are glowing purple right?
marble mountain
Just do some greedy runs and die in elesium so that you can shorten the runs
viscid notch
No
Your gemstones will be coming mostly from bosses
So beating a full run is much better
marble mountain
Also do the prophecy stuff to speed it along
viscid notch
Your gemstones will be coming mostly from bosses
Darkness aswell
marble mountain
Your gemstones will be coming mostly from bosses
That is a contractor upgrade
viscid notch
It's a very early one
marble mountain
Ye
leaden whale
yup, and then there's a little lock symbol in the codex - ||there's a quest, cal...
only some cthonic summons from certain gods/characters
like ||Megeara,Thanatos,Skelly,Bouldy and some others|| i havent unlocked all of them yet tho
winged crescent
is there a build that uses ||proud bearing|| and ||black metal|| it's the last 2 i need for the list
dusty vault
Proud bearing is a neat support for your call so just be sure to take one to see it
Black metal cam be jsed to u lock ares legendary so blade rifts builds ig
dusty vault
Do you have Achilles spear?
dusty vault
Grab his cast, Artemis core boon (attack prefered, special/dash/call also works iirc) then the duo boon between them "hunting blades"
It makes the cast tracks enemies
Support boons being engulfing vortex/black metal and Ares legendary
And extra cast dmg/extra casts from Chaos/charon wells
Artemis legendary can help but is not essy to get
winged crescent
wb proud bearing?
dusty vault
If you find her in the same run picking a call to maybe see it cant hurt
If you wanns heavy focus on call, can do Smoldering air Zeus call ig (Aphro boom + Zeus boon, call in this case to unlock) and a bunch of Zeus boons
Otherwise just keep doing random runs and remember to pick up a call and Athena and just gonna appear at some point
winged crescent
I'll try this blade rift build
Ares Artemis
buoyant jay
Yeah pats never there when I need him
drifting cedar
He'll be there one day 
misty fractal
Pat copium is always a thing
Ive got no more Death Defies and gone for Merciless End bow without getting Merciless End but Pat will save me
buoyant jay
Question, can you get both scintillating feast and ice wine? Not that I need both but I’m just curious
viscid notch
Question, can you get both scintillating feast and ice wine? Not that I need bot...
Yes
You can get both
upbeat basin
Question, can you get both scintillating feast and ice wine? Not that I need bot...
I think I got those in my last run. Sadly forgot to take a screenshot :/
kind remnant
I did one farm run ever, honestly just play the game and you'll get there, unless you're really desperate for some darkness
kind remnant
1, 2, or 3?
buoyant jay
Only 1. I had 6 minutes to kill the boss which should’ve been enough I think
kind remnant
Yeah with a little bit of practice 1 is essentially free. If you're struggling with that restriction you might need to work on your builds a bit. What weapon and boons were you running?
If you survived for 6 minutes, you're obviously good at avoiding attacks and such
Just need more damage output
buoyant jay
Drunken strike, trippy shot, zeus to get scintillating feast, and I think I randomly got Aphrodite and Demeter
With the talos fists
kind remnant
Fist is probably my worst weapon so I might not be the best build advice giver
polar finch
drunken strike alone isnt really great boss damage and it needs a lot of poms
buoyant jay
Yeah someone on the discord suggested this build
I probably could’ve gotten a better attack
polar finch
can go merciful end fists or zeus attack + aphro special and get a decent call
buoyant jay
Sounds cool I’ll try it
kind remnant
Oh, I actually did a zeus attack on fists with static discharge, I loved that build
You'll want all the zeus boons
Merciful end is considered one of the best builds but I had a lot of luck with zeus attack
buoyant jay
I tried Zeus on fists too. I almost won with both these builds I tried
I can try again
It works better for damage
polar finch
i also wouldnt use talos unless you dont have many levels on dem
kind remnant
When ever you get lighting damage, try to get an epic Static Discharge and pom it when you can
buoyant jay
I have everything except fated persuasion maxed out and fated authority, plus a few ones I don’t have but I think i have all the important ones
buoyant jay
I did. I just need 1000 darkness to get the last reroll
kind remnant
Nice
buoyant jay
I don’t remember all the names but I’ll check after this. I use death defiance, the one that heals health when you collect darkness, golden touch, the one that gives extra dashes, and that’s all I remember right now
Oh and the one that related to extra damage per curse/status
polar finch
usually +3 health per room and 100 starting gold is better
buoyant jay
Wait I do use deep pockets not golden touch
polar finch
3 health a room adds up a lot in styx since it count for all the mini rooms
buoyant jay
I have that one maxed already too but I stopped using it. I guess I could switch back
polar finch
family favorite also usually better unless youre specifically going for a build with two statuses like hangover plus duos
kind remnant
Oh and the one that related to extra damage per curse/status
That one is good if you're doing a build that adds two de buffs. Otherwise the other one is free damage as it gives 5% damage per god which counts Hermes so you're basically guaranteed 25% damage so swap it as needed
buoyant jay
family favorite also usually better unless youre specifically going for a build ...
I don’t think I ever tried family favorite before
Welp they’re forcing me to take Poseidon
marble mountain
He has good resource boons
tawdry vapor
for a eris rail build, which boons are good? im usually going with zeus atk / poseidon dash and sea storm, but what about special and cast*?
polar finch
aphro/arty special. cast doesnt matter really
can just use it to open up seastorm though you dont really need seastorm either
tawdry vapor
im using that talent that gives more damage when you have two debuffs on a target, i suppose thats why i want varied specials right?
polar finch
aphro/arty are just better damage and aphro opens up smouldering air. usually you just run family favorite since its free damage without having to force anything in the build
leaden whale
yea p stat is good
i need to use FF more often
i just used p stat at the chance i can force crap into my build
tawdry vapor
i wonder though, when you get poms, where you usually spend them? in your attack boons or cast boons depending of the build focus?
polar finch
usually you put them in your main damage source. but also poms have diminishing returns so you may want to spread them out
% boons lose pom scaling faster than flat damage and casts have better pom scaling than attacks usually
hollow perch
Hey there
quick question about the big mirror in Zag's room
if I click on them they turn into green options, are both active?
polar finch
no
leaden whale
no u have to choose
kind remnant
for a eris rail build, which boons are good? im usually going with zeus atk / po...
Zeus attack but try to get as many zeus boons to boost, or at minimum, you want epic Static Discharge, that will net you lots of damage and it scales well with pom. Any boons that make lighting effects better. Then you just need big damage on special, arty or aphro
Basically always take zeus when you see him except for like, hammers and Hermes
gray haven
Doesn't need to be epic, though that's obviously ideal.
Lightning Strike + Static Discharge + Tidal Dash is the build, pretty much. And any decent % Special (not Tempest Flourish).
Some t2 boons from Poseidon on top are also great.
Lots of poms on Tidal Dash. Maybe 1-2 on Static Discharge.
leaden whale
how much blood u got?
leaden whale
imo max aspect of zagreas on bow and win with that next
buoyant jay
imo max aspect of zagreas on bow and win with that next
Ok, what’s a good build for it
Just maxed it out
leaden whale
Artemis attack, aphro special, go for heart rend and hammers that make ur attacks better
the crit from the bow is also boosted by heart rend so its amazing
buoyant jay
Makes sense to me
dusty vault
Hunter mark from artemis too
kind remnant
imo max aspect of zagreas on bow and win with that next
I second this opinion
It's cheap and heart rend build will you get many clears easily if you pick easy || heat ||
You'll make your blood back and then some, quickly
buoyant jay
Yeah this is my first time clearing with the bow so it’s at the lowest level
kind remnant
Here is an example of it in action
kind remnant
Yeah this is my first time clearing with the bow so it’s at the lowest level
If you have five blood and you're up for it, max the zag bow
It only takes 5 blood to max
buoyant jay
If you have five blood and you're up for it, max the zag bow
Yeah I maxed it for this run
kind remnant
Nice
buoyant jay
Charged shot, chain shot, or charged volley?
gray haven
Charged Shot isn't a bow hammer.
kind remnant
I wish I knew the names better lol
upbeat basin
Gods, your reflexes are good
gray haven
If you don't have a Dash yet, take Passion Dash over Heartbreak Flourish if you want Heart Rend.
upbeat basin
The bows normal attack always gets me bc we have to charge it to shoot
gray haven
You generally wanna do Dash-Strike Power Shots rather than normal Power Shots.
They charge faster.
And you get lots of bonus damage from Hunter Dash and from Lunge boons from Master Chaos.
buoyant jay
Do I take Athena’s room or Eurydice? I have Aphrodite, Dionysus, and artemis as the other gods
gray haven
Eurydice.
Refreshing Nectar.
Will help your odds for Heart Rend and better Lord Hermes boons.
kind remnant
At this point you just want aphro and arty boons
Generally always take Eurydice except for in rare instances
buoyant jay
Is artemis on special in addition to attack is fine or should I get clean kill
leaden whale
Here is an example of it in action
I prefer it swapped so the attack has even more crit
leaden whale
Is artemis on special in addition to attack is fine or should I get clean kill
nah u need aphro on special to apply weaken
upbeat basin
Is artemis on special in addition to attack is fine or should I get clean kill
Hmm, clean kill is a good secondary boon for most runs
leaden whale
clean kill is pretty good
buoyant jay
Ok got it
cosmic seal
what is a good build for chiron in order to make my first escape?
kind remnant
I prefer it swapped so the attack has even more crit
Yes this is an old clip I would swap them now but it still does work when it's not optimized!
upbeat basin
what is a good build for chiron in order to make my first escape?
Hmmm, depends? You want to clear fast and avoid high damage?
For bows, Aphrodite and Artemis are good choices, specially their duo boon. Heart Rend
buoyant jay
PAT saved me
upbeat basin
PAT saved me
He's a cutie, right? 😅
buoyant jay
I messed up in the butterfly ball room cause they kept respawning
buoyant jay
He's a cutie, right? 😅
He’s awesome when he shows up
buoyant jay
Wow he had a dialogue for me being at low health
buoyant jay
And a fountain showed up!
upbeat basin
In many ways, yeah. The way they mix lore with gameplay is fantastic
upbeat basin
And a fountain showed up!
Lucky one!
buoyant jay
I was at low health and with no dds and that saved me
leaden whale
In many ways, yeah. The way they mix lore with gameplay is fantastic
I love hypnos’s dialogue for that
||”oh you died to a spike trap? Have you tried not standing on it?”||
buoyant jay
I GOT HEART REND LETS GO
upbeat basin
GET EM
restive portal
what is a good build for chiron in order to make my first escape?
For Chiron bow, Dionysus on special is easily the best thing to start with.
buoyant jay
I should win this run assuming I don’t die to the damage seeing as I have 58 seconds for the thesus fight, but I have dds left so I should be fine. I think
When should I use my companion during the fight
upbeat basin
Gods, your on heat runs?? The ones with the boss pacts are so difficult!
restive portal
I once went into Heroes with 20 seconds left. Lost 2 DDs to timeout and still escaped.
Note that ||heat|| is a spoiler here.
upbeat basin
Oh, sorry
leaden whale
i once beat the game with 1 hp and 0 seconds left
upbeat basin
Wooooow
restive portal
@upbeat basin ask in #h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat
upbeat basin
Ok, thanks ❤
restive portal
Np
kind remnant
I GOT HEART REND LETS GO
Stay calm and finish the run!
kind remnant
When should I use my companion during the fight
I dash in and use right away and try to hit both
restive portal
Yeah, either as an opener or when other guy finishes his tantrum if you don't have a call.
buoyant jay
I died 😞
upbeat basin
Oh :/
restive portal
Nooo
buoyant jay
Yeah the timer
restive portal
F
upbeat basin
Meeeh, but how close did you get?
buoyant jay
They weren’t even on the next part of the fight yet where they become briefly impervious
I can do the same heart rend strategy again as long as I don’t take too long in elysium this time
upbeat basin
Good!
restive portal
Risk it all!
kind remnant
Hopefully you'll get twin shot on the bow
kind remnant
I can do the same heart rend strategy again as long as I don’t take too long in ...
What level of || heat|| are you doing
buoyant jay
What level of || heat|| are you doing
Level 1. It’s easy when I don’t die to ||tight deadline||
kind remnant
Level 1. It’s easy when I don’t die to ||tight deadline||
Okay, the first level of that you should probably get used to. There are some other easy ones like || middle management ||
buoyant jay
Okay, the first level of that you should probably get used to. There are some ot...
What’s that do? I only used this and ||hard labor||
kind remnant
Let's take this to #off-topic-discussion really quick
buoyant jay
Ok
Should I just take crush shot or reroll? I don’t have Aphrodite on special yet and I’ll probably need the rolls later for heart rend
gray haven
What's your build now?
buoyant jay
Well I took it just now but deadly strike, divine dash, and that’s it besides crush shot
gray haven
Zag Bow, right?
buoyant jay
Yes
gray haven
Also I dunno who told you to get Heartbreak Flourish on Zag Bow, but you generally want Heartbreak Strike + Hunter Dash (and then some other core boon from Lady Artemis to unlock Heart Rend) or Deadly Strike + Passion Dash.
viscid notch
You almost never use your Special on Zag bow, and if you do it’s probably to clear projectiles
There are better ways to apply weak as Nyaanyaa mentioned
buoyant jay
I took it already but she didn’t offer attack
gray haven
Well yeah, since you already had an Attack.
I guess that's alright if you can get Heart Rend, it'll help with bosses at least.
There's only a 10% change to be offered an exchange, and it's gonna be for only one out of Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash.
So you shouldn't really expect one for a specific Attack or anything like that.
Only Flourish I'd probably take in that build is Divine Flourish because it unlocks Deadly Reversal.
buoyant jay
Only Flourish I'd probably take in that build is Divine Flourish because it unlo...
Nice because divine flourish just showed up
Yeah I don’t have a good way to apply weak. I guess I’ll see if I can switch it up and if not I’ll use that next time
I did use it the other time, actually
kind remnant
Every run is a learning experience
sharp glacier
can someone help me? while using the bow it says release LMB while flashing to power shot, what's flashing?
dusty vault
If you have good Chaos boons/good hammers heaft rend isnt as needed
sharp glacier
is it dashing?
dusty vault
can someone help me? while using the bow it says release LMB while flashing to p...
Zag flashes a bit before full charge
Just hold the attack and pay attention
buoyant jay
What does deadly reversal do anyway? Never got it before
dusty vault
After deflecting an attack gain 20% crit chance for 2 secs
viscid notch
When you deflect you get Global crit chance
gray haven
It's not hugely important in your build, but might as well open it up.
kind remnant
Or sell it and buy everything in styx 
gray haven
Probably nothing to buy that would help more.
I'd just spend money on Well items mainly.
Although, if you can purge it and then afford the bounty thanks to that, that'd be good.
buoyant jay
Ok I’ll try it now since I died
kind remnant
What part is giving you trouble
buoyant jay
I’m not doing thesus and aster ius fight fast enough
This time I also lost my defiances but I had chances to replenish them later
2
upbeat basin
Personal experience, kill thesus first. Asterius always strikes away from you
The kings shield is annoying, but eventually he gets some damage
viscid notch
The usual advice is to kill the Minotaur first unless you know what you’re doing
buoyant jay
I should get gods legacy next
viscid notch
Yea that’s the point
upbeat basin
Yeah, that too
viscid notch
Because going the opposite way is harder since bull attacks can be tougher to dodge and have weird hitboxes
Also if Theseus calls a god while the Bull is alive you’ll have a lot to watch out for
upbeat basin
Hmm, I'll try that on my next runs. When he calls Artemis it's the easiest for me
The secondary hit of the arrows is super dodgeable
I'll have to track my steps again, but I remember clearing them super fast bc I used meelee weapons like Arthur sword and Achilles spear maxed on attack
It's a playstile choice, but I'll definitely try those other tips
buoyant jay
Just got a new ||companion||
upbeat basin
Oh great! Those are helpful
buoyant jay
Yeah I got the one from sisiphyus
upbeat basin
Yaaay! Early using its fantastic for that one
buoyant jay
I’ll try it out next run
upbeat basin
Great ❤
buoyant jay
I got heart rend in asphodel this time
buoyant jay
Ended them both with 5:30 on the clock
Now as long as I’m not unlucky with the sack I should have this in the bag
kind remnant
Plenty of time
buoyant jay
Ughhhhhhh I died by losing my defiances he was almost dead
I’ll get it next time
I should probably still use the bat
I got twin shot this time
restive portal
Getting there. Sometimes support boons can make all the difference (if you are having trouble avoiding damage, how about some revenge damage back? or maybe some Athena boons for defence). I won my first ||EM4 / FO1|| final boss fight by just having loads of defence and using weak (and having about 400 health).
kind remnant
I should probably still use the bat
What keep sake did you have going into styx
buoyant jay
What keep sake did you have going into styx
Acorn
kind remnant
That is a good one if you can avoid getting hit by the ads
kind remnant
Acorn
I can record a run for you sometime if you would find that helpful
If not definitely no worries
buoyant jay
I can record a run for you sometime if you would find that helpful
I just defeated the heroes with 11:35 on the clock so I think I’ll be fine, but do you mean for just dodging the last fight?
Because I think that might be helpful
kind remnant
I just defeated the heroes with 11:35 on the clock so I think I’ll be fine, but ...
Looks like you're improving quickly. Yeah, just to see how to maybe speed things up and how I manage bosses with that aspect ect. No biggie either way
Though looks like each run you're getting faster
kind remnant
Much better than 8
buoyant jay
Much better than 8 <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I killed him with 10:58 on the clock!!!
dusty vault
Gaming
leaden whale
how did redacted take 6 minutes xd
kind remnant
Pog
leaden whale
Yup. Got heart rend again in Styx
did u sell it?
leaden whale
I killed him with 10:58 on the clock!!!
GJ!
kind remnant
I killed him with 10:58 on the clock!!!
You're ready for level 2
buoyant jay
how did redacted take 6 minutes xd
I’m kinda slow but It was fine
Now I just need to beat the game with the sword
And I’ll have done all the weapons
restive portal
We can talk without spoilers in #h1-discussion
Since you're graduated from being a new player are this point
buoyant jay
Yeah I should talk there now
kind remnant
Now I just need to beat the game with the sword
If that felt easy, clear it a few more times with easy || heat added so you can farm some blood. You'll want a better aspect than zag sword ||
winged crescent
nice
polar finch
stick a lot of zeus boons on it
kind remnant
is aspect of Zeus worth it?
It's a good shield, but plays different from the rest of the shield aspects
Like a big game of ring around the rosie
winged crescent
oh lol
kind remnant
Just try to get every zeus boon possible like Un said
dusty vault
Can play like a yo-yo too lol
mild perch
any tips for killing megagra?
leaden whale
I suggest playing slow and figuring out how to dodge her attacks and when its safe to go in because you dont learn anything by rushing in and dying
btw its spelt Megaera, i remember by thinking of it as Mega-era
alpine ridge
Meg basically has 3 attacks
a dash where she shoots projectiles around her
a standing one where she shoots projectiles in a semi-circle
another standing one where she makes aoe circles under your feet
she usually does a dash in between the standing attacks
the projectiles can be destroyed mid-flight by an attack or special
having an athena attack, special, or dash would also help with the projectiles
balmy kraken
|| To unlock skellys first statue thing, do I need to do Pact of Punishment 8 times (+1 heat after each run) or I can get it on a single run with heat gauge of 8 || ??
drifting cedar
I think you can do it in once
viscid notch
You can do it in a single run yea
leaden whale
you have to do in it a single run
wait my b yea u can go up by 1 for bounties or to straight to ||8 heat||
misunderstood the question
cosmic seal
eris rail starting keepsake?
quick drum
eris rail starting keepsake?
zeus' keepsake to try and get his attack boon
quick drum
yes cluster bomb is one of the strongest rail hammers
upbeat basin
@mild perch here! The pinned messages are super helpful
balmy kraken
|| So Heat Gate(or whatever it is called) appeared, it requires 5 heat skull to descend into.||
|| Will I loose my already acquired heat skulls afterwards if I descend?? ||
viscid notch
|| So Heat Gate(or whatever it is called) appeared, it requires 5 heat skull to ...
||Heat|| is a spoiler here, and no, those gates don’t consume ||Heat||
Keep in mind the gimmick is you’re not allowed to get hit otherwise you get no reward
balmy kraken
I see, thanks
pseudo heath
how do i unlock ||the last sword upgrade (i’ve killed hades )||
viscid notch
how do i unlock ||the last sword upgrade (i’ve killed hades )||
Check the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion, might contain spoilers