h1-for-new-players

[broken pivot]

u can go into the codex and see how many more convos u need to have with him

[main marsh]

But he doesn’t have any convos
He just tells me to go away

[broken pivot]

yuh thats how it started for me

[main marsh]

Yes I’m a bit confused

I thought I might unlock the administrative area cuz someone said that helps in the quest

[gilded rover]

Hi everyone, I have a question about Titan Blood. As far as I saw, it drops only from Meg and you can get only 1 Titan Blood per weapon you hold. However, when you want to upgrade the weapons, the first one wants 1 Blood, the second one wants again 1 Blood but it is locked?? Third one requires 2 Titan Blood. And we have a total of 6 weapons. How the hell am I supposed to upgrade them??

[broken pivot]

im not too good at the game but i know u can get them from trading and turning up the heat in the pact of punishment

[main marsh]

Actually
Hades and the boss of Tartarus (whether that be Meg or her sister or both)
Drop Titan blood the first time you beat them with a specific weapon
Each weapon has the first drop bonus
So 12 Titan blood (if you count beating hades too) just from first time clears with all the weapons
If not hades then 6?
After that you can go to wretched broker (in the lounge area) and trade in Ambrosia (first time drop from Elysium boss fight) for Titan bloood
You can also trade 2 diamonds for 1 ambrosia
Which you can use to buy titan blood
There are also sometimes limited time deals which give u one titan blood for 15 cthonic keys
Ambrosia and diamonds are both first time drops btw so u can get 6 of each initially.
As for the aspects
The 2nd aspect costs 1 blood to unlock (so it will also be lvl 1), he third one costs 2 blood to unlock (again, lvl 1) and the fourth can be unlocked by reaching hades, investing 5 Titan blood into the sword in any aspect which isn’t the zagreus aspect.
And it costs 3 blood to unlock
And yes you can reset the first time drops by turning up he heat in the pact of punishment

That’s the full breakdown.
Also the first 4th aspect you have to unlock is the 4th spear aspect. Which you can get by reaching hades, investing 5 blood into any aspect that isn’t zagreus aspect (doesn’t have to be the spear in this case only) and then talking to achilles until the dialogues comes up. Disclaimer, if you have achilles’ quets active then he won’t tell you the dialogue, you have to finish the quest first

[gilded rover]

Oh thank you for the detailed explanation @main marsh I guess I should play more before investing my 3 Titan Blood on aspects. Until now, I have reached to Elysium only once hahaha

[main marsh]

Np. And yes don’t invest Titan blood into anything you won’t use in the future

[broken pivot]

@main marsh what weapon u use

just curious

coz shield is op for just genuinely finishing the game but its not fast

[gilded rover]

My favourite weapon is definetely spear, but actually didn't like the aspects of it :/

[main marsh]

I use the aspect of nemesis

[main marsh]

Yeah unfortunately it’s aspects aren’t really that good :((

I was thinking of maining the spear before I actually saw it’s aspects and just decided to abandon that idea

I’m trying to unlock the aspect of Arthur

For Stygius

[main marsh]

Yeah I can tell
I have defeated hades only once tho and that was with nemesis
And near perfect boons
The daedalus hammer effect cursed slash is just so very op

[broken pivot]

yea the daedalus hammer pulverising blow is so cursed

it basically just doubles your normal attack damage

[main marsh]

No i meant
The cursed slash the one that gives 2 health per hit but -60% health

[broken pivot]

i havent used the blade thing

i found it bad

but its coz im bad as well so

[broken pivot]

wait what

[polar finch]

achilles is a pretty strong aspect

[broken pivot]

what weapon is that for

[main marsh]

It’s called Cursed Slash

[polar finch]

spear

[main marsh]

Varatha

[main marsh]

True but I personally find it hard to use

And kind of annoying

[broken pivot]

lmao i dont know how to use anything esle except for shield

[polar finch]

main problem with spear is hammer reliance

[broken pivot]

dark foresight?

[polar finch]

that doesnt really help since you still cant reroll hammers

[broken pivot]

true

but i personally get alot of hammers

and pomegranates

[polar finch]

mostly each spear aspect has a specific hammer or two theyre gunning for and others do little

[broken pivot]

so i have like 3 blessings but they are hella upgraded

@polar finch do u use the spear?

or

[polar finch]

ive done 40 heat with all of them

[broken pivot]

which one do u main

[polar finch]

also you only get 2 hammers

[broken pivot]

or like the most

[polar finch]

idk achilles or hidden

[broken pivot]

what rlly

[polar finch]

unless you count anvil whichll get you a third

[broken pivot]

whats hidden

[polar finch]

well kinda a spoiler here. i have a random video in #h1-victory-boasting of it being used i can point you to

[broken pivot]

yea alr bet

[polar finch]

though kinda an unconventional build

[broken pivot]

yea idek what builds are

i just kinda do the gods i like

but this time i got a kinda good "build" i think

[limpid garnet]

Is it correct that you don't get to talk to skelly if you kill him before it? (first time you come back)

nvm you can leave the room and come back to get it

[sour halo]

yea I just managed it to beat the first boss first try and died at the lava

[leaden whale]

The magma is so annoying lmao

[near night]

hello

[grave storm]

hi hi

[kind remnant]

Hey

[worthy pecan]

Lol I feel a little bad running shield now since a majority of my runs with it have been wins. It feels really scumbaggy to just cornercamp everything since not a lot of stuff can really attack through it.

The 3rd hidden shield has made it even more disgusting since I can just throw it out there and let it clear everything while I stand still…

[kind remnant]

Well it'll get harder to do that with higher || heat || over time

It's a good way to learn attack patterns

[dry mantle]

eh no shame in an easy cheesy shield run... definitely no shame in also repeatedly grabbing the blood vial keepsake from Ares LOL 👀
sometimes ya just need an easy win. i can remember only using the shield like a melee weapon when i first started playing 💀 its doable ya but definitely not efficient.

[polar finch]

well abusing shield block and bullrush i frames is still good at higher ||heats||

just gotta be more mindful about dealing damage in the meanwhile

[uncut wing]

I got a hammer should I choose Minotaur rush, dread flight, or breaching rush

[viscid notch]

It depends on what you’re using

Breaching Rush is best out of those most likely tho

[polar finch]

usually dread flight is straight up detrimental and minotaur rush is a waste of time

[uncut wing]

I’m using the aspect with the eye if that changes anything

[polar finch]

definitely dont want dread flight on chaos

[viscid notch]

I would take breaching nonetheless

[uncut wing]

K

[polar finch]

even more so

[uncut wing]

What makes it bad?

Is it because of the time it takes to come back?

[polar finch]

yeah

you cant block or attack in that time period

[uncut wing]

Back once again to ask about flurry shot, explosive shot, and twin shot

[polar finch]

twin is best for dmg. flurry has good damage and ease of use. explosive not so great unless you have lots of crits and already have twin/triple

[uncut wing]

Mk

[inner ruin]

how am i supposed to beat the witches circle mini boss

[polar finch]

the easiest way is by using athena boons with deflect. otherwise you have to destroy their projectiles with your wider hitting attacks. its best to approach where all their attacks are coming from one direction so you can destroy them all at the same time instead of being surrounded

[neat hull]

If you ever played bullet hells there's also this thing called streaming

Whereby you inch a tad bit every so often to weave between the gaps of projectiles aimed at you

You've probably done it in the Meg fight at some point

Might be useful if you find yourself stuck with cast for some odd reason

[bright sun]

hi

i got the game 2 days ago

[knotty rune]

youve come to the right place

[broken pivot]

how to get meg companion to work on hades?

yea u need to give them each 6 nectar to unlock it but theres somethings else u need to do for their attack to work on hades

oh ty

[knotty rune]

most stuff in that game works like that

even after you reach the requirement, you still just have to do more runs and talk to people until something triggers

[leaden whale]

Aspect of Chaos or Aspect of Zeus?

[broken pivot]

yea currently im trying to get the right convo with chaos

[broken pivot]

i like zeus

for the shield

[knotty rune]

chaos needs to be fully upgraded before its good to use

so might want to wait

[broken pivot]

the hidden aspect is the best one

[polar finch]

to an extent

[viscid notch]

Zeus is very strong too

But tougher to play

[bright sun]

i imagine ambrosia is for more than trades at the house, right?

[faint umbra]

correct, its for ||forging bonds and upgrading companions||

[bright sun]

Thanks

[bright sun]

i got a winstreak of 3

[uncut wing]

Is pulverizing blow or empowering flight better

Or ferocious guard

[polar finch]

depends on the aspect and build

[uncut wing]

Aspect of chaos and no specific build yet

I have Demeter on attack tho

[polar finch]

ferocious guard I suppose. get zeus, dio, or ares on special

[bright sun]

Just got the most insane profit

Get +20% chance of fishing spot on first level
Sell on last level for 400 coins

I got like 8 fish

200 gems for 1 blood. Is it worth?

[dusty vault]

That trade is the opposite

1 blood for 200 gems

[bright sun]

Oh yeah

[uncut wing]

Omfg I was so close

||dad was at like a sliver of health in phase 2 when I died||

[bright sun]

Winstreak of 4

[thick yew]

Yo y’all got any tips on how to beat the game I’m still kinda stuck on asphodel but I’ve gotten to Elysium once

[bright sun]

Changing my weapon was big for me

Other than that i'm still really new

[thick yew]

I usually use the twin fists because of how powerful they are but u got any recommendations

[bright sun]

The shield is my favorite

Blocking is huge

[thick yew]

Yeah it’s cool but it’s so slow

[bright sun]

Some dmg ups and you're set

It is slow

Keep trying weapons out maybe you'll find the one that suits you

[gray haven]

Biggest thing is probably just upgrading your mirror more, getting more keepsakes, things like that. So just do more runs and keep trying different builds and stuff to see what's possible.

[thick yew]

Yeah I’ve found myself getting more powerful by doing stuff like that but I didn’t know that was just it

[gray haven]

I wrote a newbie build guide that's pinned in this channel that can help you get started with something decent for your builds.

Well, it's that and a lot of practice, figuring out enemy behavior, learning more powerful builds... You get i-frames when you dash, but you don't get any i-frames if you do a Dash-Strike, so keep that in mind.

And your dashes have a cooldown, so try to not get caught with your dashes on cooldown when you need to evade an attack.

[thick yew]

|| ok so I just fought alecto for the first time and she might just be the easiest fury I have ever fought beat her first try and still have 74 health left ||

[gray haven]

Don't need to spoiler-tag her. Only anything from when you first meet the final boss and onward.

[thick yew]

Ah well I just don’t wanna spoil it for anyone wanna leave the others for a surprise

[gray haven]

Gotcha.

[thick yew]

Also Is weak one of the best buffs or what

Or curses I mean

[dusty vault]

Weak is really good yeah

And aphrodite boons in general tbh

[thick yew]

Yeah using weak with regular attacks is great because your likely to use regular attacks a lot

But is deflect any good on special attacks or what

[bright sun]

Deflect is good with sword or shield specials i think

[dusty vault]

Outside of using it to set up the merciful end duo boon i like it on bow to just say no to projectiles

[bright sun]

Yeah bow too

[thick yew]

Eh I use the shield rn

[dusty vault]

And is still a good % for weapons that have high base dmg on special anyways

Like there are better but is not bad

[thick yew]

I don’t know why but I just don’t like the bow it feels to easy for me idk I’ll have to try it again but last time I used it the thing just felt to op

[bright sun]

Bow and cannon are really good

I like them

[thick yew]

Also why does Zagreus get damaged by lava like he’s the prince of the UNDERWORLD guy literally leaves fire behind every footstep

[bright sun]

He says in a dialogue that he's resistant to fire, not immune

Not completely sure why though

[polar finch]

well the damage starts pretty small

[thick yew]

Ok so I just died after beating the bone hydra because apparently I was in lava I DIDNT KILL HIM IN LAVA

Took my eyes off the game for 3 seconds and I’m dead please kill me

[main marsh]

I had a question uh
What does the administrative Room do

[dusty vault]

You can see data about previous runs or how much you use certain boons/weapons/etc

Also for some story bits of some characters

[main marsh]

Yes I saw it’s needed for achilles and Orpheus I think

[neat hull]

Its where the kool aid is served

[thick yew]

I hate this bone hydra

[turbid stag]

You got this

[gray haven]

Sounds like the magma already took care of that.

[thick yew]

Ik last run I finally made it to elysium and beat Thanatos’s
A$$ at a killing game

Just to die to mini and Theseus

[turbid stag]

Yep, you’re doing it right. It comes together, promise

[shell shoal]

It happens. I dashed into lava running after singing one time

Or hit the wrong button into lava on low hp and died

It happens

[uncut wing]

Let’s effing goooo I won

[turbid stag]

[uncut wing]

Oh my god ||the sunset is so pretty||

[turbid stag]

Congrats fam

Meme beam ftw

[hot horizon]

Neat I have 5 dashes.

[bright sun]

Oh lol i got that too

Gaming boon

[hot horizon]

YOOO

I took out a hydra head before they stopped spawning!

[neat hull]

Whack-a-mole with the lernie bros

[turbid stag]

Lernard can be annoying

[hot horizon]

Huh?

[quaint moat]

is hades still getting updates?

[turbid stag]

Nope, game is complete

[neat hull]

Where's my Persephone Valley dlc where I can grow filthy rich growing rare crops and distilling nectar

[uncut wing]

Ayo wtf I just uh ||”borrowed” from Charon||

Homie just killed me

[hot horizon]

I'm guessing Hypno had something fun to say?

[worthy pecan]

Managed to beat hades with my first run of the fists lol

I did not have a very good build for the boss >.> I just had to keep weaving doom procs and running away

[grave storm]

that's close to one of the standard fist builds

[frosty girder]

Real pain

How are you supposed to beat my guy ||charon||

[bright sun]

He has a ton of health

i've fought him once and he killed me with 2 revives and everything

[polar finch]

fight him in elysium first of all

[bright sun]

Will do

[thick yew]

U can fight him

[tame sand]

yes but i think that can only happen later in the game

pretty sure we arent even supposed to talk abt it here

[molten moth]

I just killed ||Hades|| for the first time

i used a shield special build

just have a curse on it and run away, throw shield

easy

What should i do now?

[maiden ruin]

Kill him again

[grave storm]

spoilers

[dry mantle]

this is only the beginning

how many runs before your first victory over ||dad||?
did someone suggest the shield + Ares build to you?

[molten moth]

30 runs. saw the build in a youtube video by this one streamer whose name i dont remember

[dusty vault]

Remember to spoiler the name of the final boss

[molten moth]

My bad

[dry mantle]

i actually didnt like using the shield until someone mentioned that build lol
congrats tho! i wish you many many more hours of button-mashing lol

[molten moth]

Thank you!

[worthy pecan]

Alright got my first win with the sword too… won with a backstab build

3 wins on shield, 1 win on spear, 1 on fists and 1 on sword. Funny enough the bow is actually my most used weapon so far… kind of sad I still haven’t won with it yet.

[dry mantle]

Ares to the rescue! 👀 lol

[celest fox]

I'd recommend just doing percentage dmg for bow if you want a safer win

Besides that, the base bow isnt terribly interesting

Until you upgrade it. then it naturally can do crits.

Then you can get Heartbreak Strike Deadly Flourish, Twin and Flurry or something, Heart Rend, and just rapid fire for pretty massive damage considering you have no power shots

Hmm you've beat the game so ||you can start upgrading weapons. If you want an easy and fun bow, invest the minimum into the Hera bow and try it out.||

||you load your cast into your bow like an empowered arrow that you shoot on your next attack||

[past turret]

hey i wanna know in early runs should i lvl up my dmg (lightning strike for now) with pom or tank abilties (different league)

im playing with twin fists

[celest fox]

Damage

Generally dont bother pomming survival stuff. It scales worse

You will survive because you do more damage

[past turret]

should i put all my poms on attack dmg then?

what about cast/special

[celest fox]

Not all but get it to like lvl 4/5 by the end

[past turret]

ok ty

[celest fox]

If you arent using those much it doesnt mattwr

The base fists uppercut doesnt do much alone so you dont really need anything on it

[past turret]

Gotcha

i have a bit of understanding with attack boons but not so much on cast boons

what gods has good casts

[dry mantle]

I’ve seen a few incredible ||Demeter|| cast runs lol

[past turret]

should i enter rooms with 2 gods in it? or take the pom/centaur room

[dry mantle]

Trial rooms if you want boons from both

[past turret]

ive tried demeter casts but i think i didnt use them properly

[dry mantle]

Good option

[dusty vault]

Btw ||demeter|| is a spoiler here

But the answer is pretty much any cast is decent

[dry mantle]

Oh sorry

[past turret]

should i take the chaos gates? if yes with the keepsake?

[celest fox]

You should regardless

It's not a big loss but it can be a big gain

[worthy pecan]

Welp I have a build now that I can definitely say is fun

I hold down attack and move around my target and never die

Cursed slash and rapid strikes together + defensive skills

I don't have to think at all

[dry mantle]

i assumed the 3rd shield aspect lol

[worthy pecan]

Playing a sword run again rn

I thought it was gonna be somewhat risky running with 20hp for the beginning, but they gave me some hearts early so I didn't have to worry much.

Then athena gave me epic iron skin and I pretty much was able to tank everything as long as I was spamming attacks

[polar finch]

ah yes cursed flurry

[worthy pecan]

I had level 8 iron skin by the end lol... #h1-victory-boasting

[past turret]

im playing twin fists.. my dash and special knocks away enemies.. should i take second wave from posidon or Epic hydraulic might?

[celest fox]

Eh doesnt matter

Might is probably safer

[turbid stag]

If you have breaking wave the legendary

Then sell it for good boons lol

[celest fox]

True

[nocturne oxide]

Hi

I recently bought the game

I was hesitant to buy this because I'm generally bad at these kinds of games

but I did, and it's really hard. I can barely beat Megara

I mainly use the sword

is there a better weapon for a newbie?

[polar finch]

something like the bow, shield, even the spear would be safer

[nocturne oxide]

let's try shield

do most new players use sword? I'm assuming so cause it's the default

[polar finch]

dont think so

[celest fox]

Some stick to it

But I wouldnt recommend it

Its actually hard to use well

[polar finch]

sword probably benefits the most from being skilled with it

[celest fox]

And gets you hit a lot

If you are good obviously that happens way less. I'd say it's probably knowing exactly when you can dash strike

Because your dash gives you invincibility

Dash strike cancels it, so you have to time even that since dash strikes are the best damage

Some people say shield is too easy. I think you will get past Meg with shield

[dry mantle]

i would assume that most new players use the sword for a few runs before trying out a new weapon.
just keep moving. do not stand still or you WILL take damage lol

[celest fox]

It can block everything but area of effects

And it can even "block" those if the shield is in the area

[polar finch]

yeah just point towards the center

[celest fox]

Like a colored area on the ground

So it's very safe but its damage is more dependant

Sword damage isnt great baseline either though

Bow lets you maintain pretty good distance. But shield with the right hammers plays like bow

So look out for charged shot

It also ignores enemy shields

[nocturne oxide]

can try bow

[polar finch]

for bow main thing to keep in mind is dash striking. dashing before charging a shot will make it charge much faster for a small damage increase

this lets you have a much more mobile playstyle

pretty much never do regular shots

[grave storm]

For shield, block and rush often. Really good players can bump enemies into a pile and then bull rush all of them at once

[bright sun]

Finally won with all weapons

||the blood is so useful||

[nocturne oxide]

I don't think I like the bow tbh

it was fun to kill people at range

but against bosses it feels bad

[inner urchin]

I just wish the lock feature was better and I could lock on even while moving, cuz when you move, the auto aim gets overrident to see wherever you wanted to move

[nocturne oxide]

Kinda liking Spear

[leaden whale]

You get the || pact of punishment|| by beating Hades right?

[viscid notch]

Yes

You might wanna spoiler that

[leaden whale]

K

How do you that i am on my phone

[dusty vault]

check the pins

[viscid notch]

Put || on both sides

[leaden whale]

Ok thanks

[inner urchin]

||what is pact of punishment||

[dusty vault]

post first escape thing, spoiler mark it too

[leaden whale]

Aight i fixed it

Also i dont quite understand the ||heat|| thing ||Is It some Sort of diffulculty?||

[dusty vault]

||after completing a run with a weapon will make the bosses to drop darkness instead the next time, if you add 1 heat you can get the titan blood, diamond, ambrosia again, the if you beat you need to play with 2 heat to have bounties again and on and on, also yes works as a difficulty setting||

[viscid notch]

Yea, it’s difficulty modifiers that will make your run more challenging

[leaden whale]

Aah that's cool

[dusty vault]

||just extra thing: you cant farm easy titan blood by doing 1 heat, killing meg, dying and upping the heat again, if you go higher than needed it only will count as your lowest required heat||

[leaden whale]

Thanks, ||also Is there any trick to beating Hades cause ive tried múltiple times does he have a pattern?||

[untold epoch]

Yes ||He does a few attacks, most dangerous one for me is the spin where first you see a line trace around and him and then he lunges while sweeping around him doing 40dmg in a circle. For that one as soon as you see the start tracing around him dash away, prefereably not in the direction he's looking because you need to get further away then. Further he can do a stab and a dash plus stab but as long as you keep moving around him those aren't really dangerous.

He also sometimes shoots a green skull which is homing, if it hits you it does some dmg and you'll get an effect that makes Hades do more dmg until it goes away (screen goes back to normal). If it misses it spawns a mob where it hits a wall with a timer and when that ends it dies and releases a green expanding circle, dash over it or take 20dmg. So easy dodge unless you don't see it.

Whenever he spawns enemies kill them fast because just easier that way, when he turns invis you can still see some footprints when he gets close.

On second phase as soon as you see him charge up the laser beams hide behind a rock because they hurt||

[leaden whale]

Thanks

[polar finch]

||just run behind him when he uses the triple lasers||

[untold epoch]

One more tip: ||When he does laser he stands still so any AoE lasting effects will do a lot if you manage to get them out before going to hide, Demeter's cast will also do lots||

[polar finch]

||you can also just hug him and you wont take laser damage if your close enough||

[celest fox]

Bow can feel good versus bosses. Really depends on the aspect and what you get on it

If you are trying bow I would just recommend starting with Artemis' keepsake

Dash will do well. Attack will do well. Special can do well on Chiron.

Really just focus on dash power strikes. It takes a bit to get the timing down, but there is a hammer you can kinda rely on

Perfect Shot. There are better hammers, but it does make the power shot timing much more forgiving

Flurry Shot also removes that mechanic entirely and is pretty good

Avoid hammers like Sniper Shot. It's hard to use for little reward.

Point Blank shot is very good, especially with the hidden aspect

And also remember that you can play bow in basically melee range

And it's still safe imo

I've always liked bow but it really snapped together with the hidden aspect. So even if you dislike it now, you may like it later.

[turbid stag]

Same. It took me 350 runs but I simp for zag bow now

(Total, not just now)

[meager prairie]

When I was learning I found the bow was a great way to getting to know mobs from a distance

But if you want some easy wins just use the shield :)

[nocturne oxide]

yeah I can't do this, this game will give me carpal tunnel lol

nice aesthetic though

and the divine perks stuff reminds me a bit of Stellaris techtree haha

[meager prairie]

Can always rebind the space key to something more suitable for yourself :)

[nocturne oxide]

that's

not a bad idea

[turbid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-star-wars-memories-name-ben-kenobi-gif-4100026

[uncut wing]

I will never pick up an anvil ever again

If it wasn’t for cursed slash I would have won

[bright sun]

What do you think is the best aspect for shield

Also cannon

[uncut wing]

Chaos imo

Tho I haven’t used the hidden one much

[bright sun]

i've been playing with chaos but feels like the extra shields never hit

Haven't tried other ones

Dunno how to unlock hidden

[polar finch]

hidden and zeus shield are the strongest

hestia and eris for rail

[gray haven]

The Anvil can be great sometimes, but you really need to know the Daedalus upgrades well to get the most of it. Rule of thumb is to only take it when you're unhappy with both of the upgrades you have.

[bright sun]

Thanks

[minor cave]

anyone on that can help me out with something? ty

[nocturne oxide]

man Asphodel is even nastier than Tartarus

I mostly lose to dashing into lava

[bright sun]

Does zeus aspect get affected by zeus boons?

i'm guessing yes but not sure

[dusty vault]

How so? If you mean zeus special on the aspect, yes it works and its really good

Just slap more zeus and maybe aphro for smoldering air and done

[bright sun]

Thanks

I thought it would get overriden but it just gets deadlier

[polar finch]

would be a bit of a bruh moment if zeus aspect was bad with zeus

[bright sun]

Yeah

[nocturne oxide]

Out of Asphodel I guess

[uncut wing]

Hey just a quick question what are the odds of getting the sack in the last chamber

[polar finch]

like ~2-3%

[uncut wing]

Damn that was some real bad luck then

[bright sun]

What?

||hades just lets me walk out, and here i was going on all the tunnels to prepare||

[dusty vault]

Congrats

[bright sun]

No way

[random tartan]

So do I need to go in order for ||the secret aspects to unlock or can I do any weapon aspect?||

[pseudo valley]

so im trying to do megs quest for the bat thing how many necter do i give her?

[gray haven]

Spear first. Rest is up to you and RNG.

[random tartan]

Ok

[gray haven]

As many as you can.

Probably around 6 she wants?

Yep, 6 Nectar.

[uncut wing]

What’s the best options for ||low heat||?

Also, is there any benefit to going above

[polar finch]

||heat|| is a spoiler here better to ask in a different channel ||tight deadline is pretty free unless youre going over 36 minutes a run. extreme measures 1 and 2 are pretty free, so is middle management and benefits package 1||

[uncut wing]

Ok

[pseudo valley]

so the charm things or "keep sakes" the ones the gods give you say the next boon you get but if i equip it in the middle of a run it never works is that intended?

[celest fox]

It does work

It just wont be immediate

they also only work once per run

Per keepsake

Otherwise you just get the scaling rarity chance. Which is super important tbh

So you can force 4 gods to appear in a run

[polar finch]

hermes can appear before your keepsake god

[bright sun]

Oh, that actually happened to me

I also thought it didn't work

[thick yew]

||What’s a good weapon to use against mino and theseus||

[dry mantle]

You’re gonna beat em with every weapon eventually. Just gotta learn their attack patterns and you’ll succeed 👍🏽

[thick yew]

Ik but I wanna know what’s the best weapon to beat them with when first trying you know take some load off my back

[dry mantle]

Shield if you wanna block most of their attacks and learn their moves I guess. A lot happens on the screen during that fight

||Take Asterius down first. He’s the more aggressive attacker in both of his phases.||

[gray haven]

Depends a lot on the player and what weapon is the most intuitive for you.

Also your knowledge of builds for the weapons.

[pseudo valley]

how many runs does it take to actually beat the game

ive done it about 8 or 9 times now i think

[broken pivot]

well it depends on ur skill doesn’t it

i got mine on the 7th one

but i’ve played at my friends house for a few hours before so

[viscid notch]

Yea it depends on how quickly you can get used to the game elements like boss patterns and enemy patterns etc

[broken pivot]

yea i find alecto harder than hades 😃👍

[viscid notch]

[broken pivot]

coz hades is so predictable

coz he has the lines thing before he attacks and its hella slow so

[polar finch]

i think he might just mean get to the ending

thats ||10 runs for credits||

[broken pivot]

wym

what u mean by ||credits||

[shell shoal]

Beating the game for the first time isn't the same as rolling credits. @broken pivot

[broken pivot]

what credits

OH

yea nah i got that on my likw 15th one

i got so excited lmao

i was like “omg what is happening”

orphy singing was also top tier

[shell shoal]

Nah. It always happens on your ||10th|| completion when ||hades chooses not to fight you etc||

But yeah

That song is super good

[broken pivot]

yea yea i was so confused

i thought like i got like a secret ending or sormtbing

[viscid notch]

How did you get your first win on 7th and credits on 15th lol

[pseudo valley]

no i mean like how many times do you have to actually beat it

you goober

[viscid notch]

10

[broken pivot]

i hope u sleep well knowing that u offended me so much by calling me a goober

[broken pivot]

i prolly lied then

oh yea how do i get aspect of bro

beo

i’ve invested 5 bloods and it hasn’t come up

is it a certain convo

[viscid notch]

Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion

Also it’s a spoiler here

[charred yacht]

Hello, i wonder if i'm dumb dumb or anything

I thought that Athena Aid made me invunerable to damage, but that doesn't seems to be the case

Maybe it's because i'm playing Hell mode ?

[gray haven]

It makes you invincible, yes.

[charred yacht]

Well weird

I literally died with it active, i kept taking damage while trying to hit my opponent

The activation of the aid was litreraly what killed me since i dashed toward the damage source

[gray haven]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I didn't see it, no idea what happened.

[charred yacht]

Thanks for the help still

[leaden whale]

im dead i have 18 hp and no death defiances what do i do cause im about to fight ||Hades||

[lone parrot]

Enjoy it, I guess!

[leaden whale]

I Guess ill do that

Nvm i died

[nocturne oxide]

Is that even possible to win

[mint tide]

I mean technically but not for 99.9% of people

[viscid notch]

Doable

[leaden whale]

nope i died sadly

[past turret]

whats a good twin fist build for the first escape

||i just bought aspect of demeter||

[viscid notch]

#h1-builds-and-combat message Demeter fists guide by Nyaanyaa

[bright sun]

You have no idea how much i love aspects

Weapons that i consider boring in general are so refreshing with an aspect

Namely fists

[bright sun]

||i'm buying charon's diamond||

[leaden whale]

Im at the end again any advice before i ||fight Hades||

[grave storm]

don't panic, ||the skulls slightly home in on you so don't dash in the same direction they're flying||

Chill out with Cerberus for a bit

[leaden whale]

K

[nocturne oxide]

No idea how to beat T and M

not sure how to spoiler, but figure this is sufficiently vague

I'm using the red sword

[viscid notch]

They aren't a spoiler in this channel

[nocturne oxide]

oh

The bull I can beat

but then Theseus does his blocks

and I can't get around that

[bright sun]

Wait for theseus to throw his spear, after that he'll turn his back on you

[viscid notch]

If you stay away from him he'll throw spears, when he throws it he'll turn around to relocate before throwing it again, thats gonna be your window to attack

If you're too close he'll do his spin, so keep that in mind

[bright sun]

You explained it better

[nocturne oxide]

I see

the challenge then is that you need to get close to do damage with a sword

so then you have to dash away before the spin

[viscid notch]

Yea you kinda have to find your sweet spot rather than being at the other side of the arena

A bit of distance but not too much distance

Before he throws his spear you'll see a crosshair on Zag

That can help a bit

To let you know that you should be ready

[nocturne oxide]

ah

Also it felt like the thing that gives you 2 life per hit

Made this run a lot easier

I usually fail at Theseus and Minotaur anyways

Though

[viscid notch]

The health penalty is big

And the way you play sword relies on your dash strikes

For which the hammer doesnt work

It's more of a trap hammer, but it works, and it's cheesy

[nocturne oxide]

Yeah that’s the part that sucked

You die super fast if you get caught out

[polar finch]

a lot of obols

just keep buying stuff from him

thats all

[bright sun]

Let's go

||hades with no death defiance||

Also winstreak of 9

[nocturne oxide]

I got to that point

And failed

First time

Got him to half health

[worthy pecan]

I've gotten much better at using iframes from the dash now that I know that attacking with it removes them. I'm actually starting to see a small streak now

Made me realize I was playing sword all wrong

[pseudo valley]

can i ask a question that might spoil a little in here?

[mint tide]

If you use a spoiler mark it's probably ok

[polar finch]

you can just ask it in #h1-discussion

[bright sun]

What does the obol above a save slot mean

[turbid stag]

That’s just highlighting the file select

[bright sun]

Oh

Thanks

[leaden whale]

Just started out the game because of sale, damn kino.

which weapon do you guys recommend for new players?

[bright sun]

Shield, you can learn the patterns while taking cover and pushing enemies back

Available early

[gray haven]

Whichever one you feel most comfortable with. You can unlock all the weapons pretty quickly.

[nocturne oxide]

man, I thought I had beat ||Hades||

[gray haven]

lol

[nocturne oxide]

and then ||he got all his health back||

[gray haven]

I know where this is going.

GGs.

[nocturne oxide]

not sure what I'm gonna do

I had 2 lives going in

I always lose one in the poison maze

[gray haven]

Did you have the Evergreen Acorn for the Temple of Styx?

[nocturne oxide]

wait

yes I do

my god

[gray haven]

That'll help with the final boss fight.

[nocturne oxide]

that would save a ton of HP

[gray haven]

Yeah.

And try doing the miniboss tunnels first. They're more predictable, and you get double rewards (or high rarity boons).

[nocturne oxide]

miniboss tunnels?

[gray haven]

They have a little skull symbol with an arrow next to it.

[nocturne oxide]

ah

[gray haven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png

Like there on the right.

[nocturne oxide]

I see

also I think that a lot of this depends on build

like if my build is bad

even Theseus/Minotaur is a struggle

but if it's good, can get to final boss

What are some good sword builds?

[polar finch]

how much are you done on your mirror?

[nocturne oxide]

Got 3 Defiance, and most of the backstab and health and gold perks

[polar finch]

hmm merciful end is a bit difficult to get without the last three mirror upgrades but doom by itself is still quite strong for the sword

for a merciful end build you start ares keepsake, force athena in aspho and get her on special then dash and hope for the duo

though doom attack and divine dash itself is a good combo

[nocturne oxide]

What do you mean Force Athena

[polar finch]

can also put on aphrodite attack for the base damage, and dio attack or zeus with static discharge are good damage

[polar finch]

equip her keepsake

[nocturne oxide]

Ah

[polar finch]

the base sword doesnt have great dmg without the double edge hammer

so hope you get that

[leaden whale]

Ty.

[leaden whale]

wew it takes me 4 hours to get to the third chamber

gdamn

[west shale]

you guys wouldnt happen to know how to get the aspect of guan yu would you?

[mighty pelican]

look at the pinned messages of #h1-story-discussion

should be the third one down

[west shale]

oh alright thanks

[dusk quarry]

Hi, i maybe want to buy the game is it still worth it?

[nocturne oxide]

I like it

And I usually dislike Roguelikes, the genre doesn’t appeal to me

So if I like it

That means it’s good

[foggy tide]

I had never played a roguelike in my life before hades and didn't care much for this genre. 170 runs and 250 hours later, i still cannot get bored of it. If anyone is on the fence and has Game pass, try it definitely and decide if it's for you

[minor shard]

Is there a way to tell which npc room you'll get from an exclamation point or is it random?

Its weirdly hard to find any solid info on it online

Some say it depends on biome but dont list who is where

[dusty vault]

Tartarus -
Asphodel - eurydice
Elysium patroclus (probably messed up his name)

[viscid notch]

Close enough

[leaden whale]

Guys how do you get the victory banners?

[dusty vault]

Get every work order from the house contractor (except for npc story quest iirc)

[leaden whale]

Ok so Buy everything right?

[nocturne oxide]

I screwed up

Sword run, forgot to use Ares to try for Doom, now just have Poseidon/||Demeter ||stuff (Razor Shoals/Tidal Dash and Frozen Touch)

just cleared Tartarus

should I try to use a Keepsake to spawn anyobe?

[dusty vault]

maybe zeus for call and grab another poseidon core boon to unlock sea storm? and spoiler mark ||demeter||

[nocturne oxide]

ok

hmm

let's try it

[dusty vault]

also basic sword or aspect?

[nocturne oxide]

Basic, but I have 2 boosts to the Aspect Zagreus thing

[zenith cave]

I need to do this bounty that gives 10 titan bloods for clearing the game with each weapon. Eesh.

I want to make the Chiron bow. I’m starting to have way more fun with it.

Still working on the dash strike though, lol.

[vagrant forge]

is there a guide that mentions the best aspects for each weapon?

and different builds?

[zenith cave]

Yeah. Lots of Reddit posts about aspects and builds.

[viscid notch]

Best depends on what you're doing really, and also how good you are with each weapon, there are bests for speedrunning, for high ||heat,|| but they're nothing set in stone

[vagrant forge]

so you kind of do a point-spread? there's no like best-of anything

[zenith cave]

Whatever you do the best with.

[hot horizon]

I just beat the Hydra with: full hp, 3 death defies, 2 boons with revenge damage, a boon that buffs one of the revenge damage boons, an attack speed up boon and cursed slash.

This is a nice run so far.

Got past the duo.

[nocturne oxide]

Woah

[hot horizon]

Okay, I don't like the 4th area optional boss, didn't kill me but still don't like it.

1726 gold with hording slash, neat.

The first time I got past the ||good boy|| was the closest I've ever gotten.

[dusty vault]

Tiny vermin or other mini boss?

[hot horizon]

King vermin.

[viscid notch]

Styx minibosses are meaty

Dps test

[polar finch]

idk if vermin is optional

he kinda just happens

[celest fox]

My favorite kill was hidden bow special only

Pure zeus

Died so fast I didnt even need to dodge

[grave storm]

it's optional
The options are to kill it or die

[hot horizon]

I didn't have much trouble with it because of the saw call.

[nocturne oxide]

tbh the Poseidon Ultimate was the only reason I won

probably better ultimates out there, but this one is noob-proof

[kind remnant]

It got my first clear

It's very noob proof and super broken with smoldering air

[dusty vault]

smoldering air good

[gray haven]

Poseidon's Aid is super strong, yeah.

[polar finch]

rip current poseidon aid and SA call%

[hot horizon]

I'm just bad at the game still.

[zenith cave]

Ditto @hot horizon

[neat hull]

Is there a guide on pom efficient skills?

[gray haven]

Nope. Not that I know of.

Mainly boons with high flat damage have great pom scaling.

[neat hull]

I find myself avoiding pom chambers as I never know if they would make any significant additions to my builds

[gray haven]

Hunter's Mark for crit builds.

[arctic bobcat]

One or two levels in your core boons can be very significant. Nyaanyaa has better examples but the way Splash Dash scales it's almost silly

[neat hull]

Is pressure points good for poms?

[gray haven]

No.

[neat hull]

Right

[gray haven]

Pressure Points on its own is very whatever. It becomes good when you get Hunter's Mark.

And Hunter's Mark poms are really good.

Lady Aphrodite's Heartbreak Strike and Heartbreak Flourish have decent pom scaling for a few levels at least. And some of the other % attacks/specials can be okay to pom for 1-2 levels.

[neat hull]

PP feels minsicule nonetheless but on paper having a single percentage point seems like a huge increase off base chance

I do find myself offering poms to aphro and poseidon quite a bit more compared to the other gods

[gray haven]

On paper the poms are still bad, you're just only looking at relative increase not absolute increase.

[polar finch]

each percent of crit chance is essentially a 2% increase in dps

[gray haven]

Like sure, one pom on +2% will increase it to +3%, which is a 50% increase in crit chance!... but it's also really just +1%.

[neat hull]

Huh alright then

I swear I've read some discussion somewhere about pressure points being better than it seems

[neat hull]

Poms do seem a bit of a noob trap before you realize how heavy scaling can be

Guilty of it myself

I think I chose pom from eury on my very first encounter with her as well

Which if I understand correctly is now is her least favorable option?

[gray haven]

No, it's a +2% increase in DPS, but not a 2% increase in DPS. Each additional point in crit chance does less than the previous.

[polar finch]

poms are good on flat damage and casts mainly. for percent stuff its like 2

[gray haven]

Best option is typically Refreshing Nectar, but it depends on what you have and what you're going for. When in doubt, Refreshing Nectar is always a great pick.

[polar finch]

ig if ur pressure pts is lvl 3 then lvl 4 is more like a 1.9% increase

[gray haven]

Yep.

(1 + new crit chance * 2) / (1 + current crit chance * 2)

[polar finch]

||on higher heats ill pick pom or ambrosia more often than not because ap2 things||

[gray haven]

We're in new players.

[polar finch]

oh

[neat hull]

For what's it worth I've a few ||🔥 || under my belt as well (thanks)

[polar finch]

||spoiler||

like that

[neat hull]

How about damage resist boons?

[polar finch]

the increase is pretty low

[neat hull]

They seem to not be as common as additive damage buffs, so I thought they might be more viable in that sense

Is bracer keepsake mutiplicative?

[polar finch]

yeah dmg resis is multiplicative

[gray haven]

It's pretty good to take more damage resistance boons when you already have damage resistance and dodge chance, but you don't really wanna pom any of them.

[neat hull]

All variations of them?

[polar finch]

getting another dmg resis boon is alot better than multiple poms

[gray haven]

Broken Resolve is additive with the 30% damage reduction from Weak, but otherwise, yeah.

Dodge chance is additive.

[neat hull]

Alright then

Thanks yall

[gray haven]

start is really good for getting early wins because she has the best % damage, Weak, and you get easy access to more damage reduction and Life Affirmation from her.

As well as easy access to Smoldering Air if you see Lord Zeus. Or more damage reduction and Deflect on Dash if you see Lady Athena.

And then three of Lord Hermes's best boons also synergize with that because Hyper Sprint has damage reduction and Greater Evasion and Second Wind have high dodge chance.

So you can get very high eHP that way without having to sacrifice (much) damage.

[neat hull]

Sturdy doesn't stack with itself, yes? (Herm + Hammers)

I've heard good things about smouldering myself but I find myself in the habit of charging full guages for funny voicelines so I never had that in my priority list

[gray haven]

Yeah, getting a free Call every 5 seconds is incredibly strong.

And you get i-frames on any Call activation, so it's also great defensively.

[dawn night]

What is the best starter weapon

[gray haven]

Just whatever you're most comfortable with because they play pretty different.

I guess for most new players that's not sword, though.

But if you feel comfortable with base sword, then go for that.

[dawn night]

Ok thx

[sand kiln]

the game is only dubbed in english and i assume they arent any plans to dub in further languages correct?

[gray haven]

Right.

[sand kiln]

thanks for the answer

[crimson glacier]

should i get death defiance rank 3 or stubborn defiance?

[quick drum]

death defiance

[crimson glacier]

alr thanks

[minor shard]

Darkness giving a heal/health up is such a goddamn useful mechanic, combined with the darkness rewards for previously beaten bosses

Anyone struggling to finish runs due to lack of health, don't underestimate the darkness boosting boons, helped me immensely so far

[mellow cedar]

Hi

I just installed hades and i'm realy happy about it)

thank you Supergigant Games!

[foggy tide]

Ive literally never seen anyone use stubborn defiance lol

[covert cedar]

I use it…

[leaden whale]

Ohoho

Once you get into ||high heat||, you’ll see a lot more of it

[leaden whale]

So um

I'm stuck at region 3 final bosses

Bull first

yes that's the approach

however my eyes arent train to see over fifty five thousand particles to appear at once

Try listening for the audio cues

I've gotten used to the game's combat

oh that

he'll grunt whenever he attacks right

Asterius always grunts before his two swings

[leaden whale]

Yep that

what about Thesius

wait is that a spoiler

i should be careful

He’s basically a support enemy until you hit phase 2

Nah it’s fine

how to deal with his spear throw?

just hide behind pillars?

that's it, or anything else

Basically, don’t stop moving

You can dodge it just by running

that's kind of

dumb

even with dodging/running nonstop

i still get hit by it

Well ok pal

i thought its like a hitscan attack

yeah i have no idea either

Well yeah, a pink reticle appears on zag, there is a long delay, then it’s thrown at the last location he was

i'll keep that in mind

how much seconds estimated?

2?

I’d say 3-4

that's long, alright

i see

But don’t rely on counting

I think it can happen faster

nah i dont count

i'll test that in my next run

one more question

how "balanced" is the twin fists

They’re not the best really

Especially when you factor in their aspects

err i beg to differ

that's probably the most OP weapon i've ever tried

i got through region 3 in one try the moment i unlock it

it's very agile and fast to use imo

Trust me, thought the same thing, once you get the next aspects, you’ll know different

oh right kek

btw ||how do i use titan's blood?||

Aspects

Unlocking and upgrading them

well the former is understandable

but the latter

that's why i'm asking

[gray haven]

Theseus's spear throw timing varies.

[leaden whale]

i see

hiding behind pillars work right

[gray haven]

Yes.

[leaden whale]

how the f

Yep that’s standard

i didnt

know that

i thought it pierces through the pillars

No they just stop

[gray haven]

Just fight Asterius on the outside of the arena, always keeping a pillar between Zagreus and Theseus. That's the easy strat.

Will also always ensure there's an obstacle nearby for Asterius to crash into.

[leaden whale]

ah the charge

alright one last question

Or wait at a wall, and dash at the last second

Usually the better bet than going for a pillar

||is there any kind of additional resurrection item/keepsake for use?||

[gray haven]

Well, I didn't say use the pillars necessarily, just if you're fighting on the outside of the arena, the wall and the pillars will always be nearby.

[leaden whale]

No just death defiances, and tooth

so that's two, both of which are one per attempt and one is per chamber

i see i see

[gray haven]

Take the Evergreen Acorn into Elysium if you have trouble with the boss fight. Then keep it on after that.

[kind remnant]

Spear is east to dodge you just have to move in one direction

[leaden whale]

There are a few ways to get them back during a run though, Athena has some boons that restore dd, Patroclus can restore all

[kind remnant]

The marker wiggles on you and then locks solid and when that happens you have like half a second to dodge

[leaden whale]

Thank you apple autocorrect, very cool

[kind remnant]

If you juke back and forth you might back track back into his path

[gray haven]

My personal solution is to just get very high DPS and kill them both quickly before they can ever become a threat.

[leaden whale]

good riddance

i'll keep that in mind

thanks

[zenith cave]

The Chiron bow at low level is pretty underwhelming but I have a couple hammers and boons that are making this a cakewalk. Lol. Loving it.

[viscid forge]

maxed chiron is like one of the strongest aspects in the game

especially if you get some hammer upgrades on your special like +4 arrows or extra damage on consecutive hits

then i usually go for either artemis or ||demeter|| boon on special

artemis just has a lot of damage and demeter is great when combined with the boon that deals damage when you apply 10 chill

[zenith cave]

I have both those hammers on it right now but it’s only a lvl 2 aspect.

Guessing it’ll melt the duo and redacted.

[viscid forge]

probably

[zenith cave]

Also have a chaos boon that should kick in shortly giving +45% to special.

[dusty vault]

Spoiler mark ||demeter||

[zenith cave]

That’s gonna be fun shortly.

Why do you have to spoiler that one?

[dusty vault]

||she appears after you reach the final boss once||

[viscid forge]

kinda forgot you cant encounter her on your first runs

[zenith cave]

Oh I didn’t know that.

I’m working on clearing the game with all weapons.

So I get the bounty and can upgrade my Chiron to lvl 4 or 5

I still need a clear with sword and spear… I don’t like using those at all so it might be a god mode situation lol

[foggy tide]

Never used it maybe it is good (dunno how to spoiler tag)

[noble mist]

||If your running LC4 (100% less healing), then it is nessasary because its literally the only way to heal other than centaur hearts. Most people run lc4 at 32 heat because once you get used to it its a pretty easy 4 heat to add to the pact. ||

[foggy tide]

Hmm thanks, || i was thinking how to get to 32 without having to add EM4, I'll definitely try it then and see how it goes. ||

[viscid notch]

Check pins in #h1-high-heat-strategies

||EM4 totally not necessary to take at 32, there are just a few things you have to get used to ||

[foggy tide]

Nice, ill take the convo there not to spam here 😅

[zenith cave]

So the victory screen on god mode doesn’t include your normal clears?

[faint umbra]

no, god mode and normal mode runs are counted separately

[zenith cave]

Ah ok.

At least the bounty updated.

Could swear I’ve had a shield clear… but I guess not.

[celest fox]

Chiron is cool because it directly interacts with special hammers in simple ways

Relentless is just better scaling for example. Literally its upgradable stat.

And the other one, the repeated special hits hammer, is directly useful to Chiron's whole gimmick

It's a very elegant weapon concept

[kind remnant]

Chiron sounds fun but am skipping it for ||rama||

[viscid notch]

Spoiler

[pseudo valley]

does someone have like a list of good duo boons?

if it matters i really only play with the aspect of demiter

[kind remnant]

You can definitely find a list of all and read through there's only 28 I think but it'll depends on how good they are with certain weapons and builds ect

Merciful end is one of the best ones

[pseudo valley]

like just in gen

[kind remnant]

And smoldering air

[pseudo valley]

for any run or build really

[kind remnant]

Lota of good ones tho

In general yes, better on fast attacks tho

[prime perch]

hey in the mirror of darkness you know how you can flip the upgrades like change gods pride to gods legacy

if i upgrade both of those do i get the benefit of both or only the one thats showing when its flipped

[kind remnant]

One

[viscid notch]

Only the one that’s showing

[prime perch]

okay thank you

[kind remnant]

Does keeping a God keepsake on after you get them to drop once have any benefit? Like better boons when they do drop again?

[prime perch]

cause it just seemed like why would someone choose the one that increase the chance of epic boons over the one that increases the chances of legendary and duo

[pseudo valley]

pure rage is all i feel right now

[kind remnant]

Because having a rack of like 4 epics could be better than 1 legendary

[pseudo valley]

so im doing the meg quest and she was in zags room and then said that it was dirty and left

[viscid notch]

Yes, you still keep the rarity bonus if you keep it equipped for the next biome

[pseudo valley]

i thought that was where i got her like call thing

but she just left

[kind remnant]

The meta is run with epic boon in most cases

[viscid notch]

Epic boons can be very strong

[prime perch]

oh that makes sense

[kind remnant]

So maybe worth keeping on through elysium if I'm done a 1 god heavy build

[pseudo valley]

can i not do the meg quest anymore

[prime perch]

might just choose the epic one then cause duo ones seem weird and even with the boost its hard to get legendary

[viscid notch]

And getting useless duos just because they’re available doesn’t really mean that your build will be stronger

[prime perch]

yeah

i kust thought duos would be better but after i typed i got my first and it seems really dumb

[viscid notch]

Even if you’re aiming for one duo boon you can also easily get away with Pride

Legacy is only for builds that really need that duo or that need multiple duos (usually this)

[prime perch]

i mean if you go to the girl in asphodel that can give you the buff to increase your next 3 with increased rarity and have the epic one then easy legendarys

yeah i understand now thanks

i bought this game 3 days ago and i have over a day played and i dont think thats good

[viscid notch]

You can also check wells of Charon for Yarns since those also boost rarity for the next boon you pick up, same goes for Chaos favor boons but that one is permanent for the run not just 1 boon

[prime perch]

yeah

if yall think thats bad i got dead cells to 24 hours in less then 2 days

[viscid notch]

Too much of a gamer it seems

[prime perch]

yeah

i mean i was on break from school and this was back to when i couldnt fall asleep till 5 am even if i had no energy

ahat would you say is the best keepsake and best aspect over all

just for like any weapon

[grave storm]

Eurydice's acorn probably

or maybe Athena just bc divine dash

[viscid notch]

There isn’t really a best keepsake because those depend on biome and build and aspect and other things so it’s tough to say, you also cant compare god keepsakes to defensive keepsakes to utility keepsakes they’re just for different things, as for aspects it definitely comes down to player knowledge and skill level but yes there are some that are stronger than the rest, not exactly easier to use however, I would say Nemesis for sword overall, Bows are all very strong, Hera for speed definitely, ||Rama for Heat||, for Shield ||Beowulf|| and Zeus are top ones, ||Beo|| more popular, Demeter for fists, Zag fists are also pretty good tho, Eris and Hestia for rail

Achilles for Spear, ||Guan Yu|| if you have the skill to back it up

But again there are no bests in every context

[faint harness]

I got the game a day ago, how is the chaos shield? it's what I'm mainly using

have tried a few of the other weapons but I don't like them too much

[viscid notch]

Safe, slow, decent dmg

[prime perch]

i used to hate the spear but its been feeling really good

[viscid notch]

Spears are generally hammer reliant

[kind remnant]

Hera for speed

[prime perch]

and im doing good

[kind remnant]

Maybe I will max that for some speed runs then

[viscid notch]

||Heat|| is a spoiler here

[prime perch]

yeah i got one of the best hammer upgrades i would say because what i put in the contract

im sorry

[faint harness]

im like 25 runs in and haven't even been to the final boss, highest ive went is the 4th area but I died before I could make it to the final boss

[viscid notch]

Don’t really need titan blood in it because for normal rooms you’ll one shot everything and for bosses you either have QR or you don’t

[viscid notch]

You’re fine

[kind remnant]

Oh

Qr?

[viscid notch]

Also for speed there is a lot basics that you’ll need to know, habits you could say

[viscid notch]

Quick reload, hermes boon that makes your cast drop faster from enemies

[polar finch]

yeah a common quick reload sets cast drop speed to 2.5s. doesnt matter hera's lvl

[kind remnant]

I bet, skipping mini bosses, picking chiron rooms. Killing last enemy by the next room

[prime perch]

for me i only got to the final one on like my 29th run and didnt beat it till my 31st so youre doijg good compared to me cause i didnt get to the place before in my 28th

[polar finch]

uh not skipping minibosses

[viscid notch]

Taking minibosses actually

Lol

[polar finch]

regular rooms are much slower

[viscid notch]

Yes, multiple waves etc

[polar finch]

like a lot of minibosses you can kill in like 2 seconds

[kind remnant]

Do mini bosses shorten your run

[viscid notch]

Minibosses are usually faster with a few exceptions like Barge maybe

[kind remnant]

Oh you can kill faster ic

[polar finch]

they also give better rewards

[faint harness]

I can consistently get to Theseus and maybe about half of the time I get to him I can get past

I just feel so bad dying in the final area before even fighting the boss

[prime perch]

yeah understandable i got the final boss to the like last 5% of health and died on my 2nd time getting to him

[viscid notch]

25 runs is still really good, it does take practice and the last area enemies are beefy and a dps check, aside from all the other crap that you deal with like poison and traps, minibosses tunnels are good usually if you can handle them, much faster

[prime perch]

I BOUGHT THE WRONG GOD

[kind remnant]

Get 3 defiance of death and work on an easy build with God keepsakes rather than just random god boons

[prime perch]

yeah trust me the defiance is a life saver literally

[faint harness]

that's what I'm doing, just got 3x death defiance so I'll try again now

[prime perch]

i had to use all 3

and thats when i first beat him when i first got all 3

[faint harness]

I'm usually using god keepsakes for area 1 and 2 then switch to lucky tooth for the 3rd area

[kind remnant]

Good idea

[viscid notch]

That’s the way to go

[prime perch]

the first boss feels either extremely easily or annoying

[viscid notch]

The Acorn is also really good if you’re confident in normals rooms

For 3rd and 4th area

[faint harness]

what should I be going for on chaos shield then? I like doom and hangover but I don't really know which is better

unless it's just personal preference

[faint harness]

where do I get the acorn?

[viscid notch]

Doom is good, you can go for Zeus aswell, usually the most popular one

[viscid notch]

Aspho story room npc, gift her a nectar

[faint harness]

ah I've been there before but I couldn't give her one

or i didn't have one

[viscid notch]

I personally don’t like Hangover on Chaos shield at all, your stacks are all spread out across the room most of the time and Chaos lacks dmg already so it’s not the best idea

[kind remnant]

to eurydice

[prime perch]

yeah i heard someone say chaos was good and tried it but i hated it personally was one of the hardest to use

[viscid notch]

Zeus has much better ways to scale, and so does Ares with things like Dire misfortune, impending doom, merciful end

[faint harness]

I'll try zeus then

[viscid notch]

Look for Static discharge, Double strike, Splitting bolt

[prime perch]

the aspect for the spear that takes life doesnt seem too good

[faint harness]

should I also get posiden or is that duo boon not good on aspect of chaos

[viscid notch]

If you can get aphro in your pool (ideally attack), and some good dps call you can go for smoldering air which is a great source of dps aside from your special

[viscid notch]

Sea storm is good, Poseidon’s dash is a good pick overall, or call + rip current

Tidal dash can make styx tunnels trivial if you get breaking wave especially

[prime perch]

i love the aspect of achilles and the hammer upgrade flurry jab

cause you get the damage boost and can just hold attack

[viscid notch]

Yupp, that’s the best hammer for Achilles

[prime perch]

just that and the one where your attack does extra damage to armor

[viscid notch]

It’s good if you get Charged Skewer and rely on your special for dmg instead, and get used to the special > dash strike x2 combo, and spin between waves to heal, it’s a tough aspect for sure, the penalty is massive and you gotta be good at not getting hit too often, wouldn’t recommend at lv1

[prime perch]

yeah that seems realllyyy hard lmao

[viscid notch]

I mean it does sound hard but most weapons have a certain rythme you kinda follow and get used to

[prime perch]

yeah

[viscid notch]

So yea, the penalty is just a feature

[prime perch]

makes sense

[viscid notch]

It can be a very safe aspect actually

[prime perch]

oh

bro 2nd boss fight the achilles aspect and flurry jab tends to melt through it

[viscid notch]

It melts through stuff if you have decent boons yes

[prime perch]

i just do over 1000 damage and still dont have to dodge

[celest fox]

The hidden aspect is super satisfying though

[prime perch]

for the spear?

[celest fox]

Yeah

1000 damage is actually pretty average for hard hitting stuff

For end of run damage

[prime perch]

im trying to get that one so i can unlock the one for the sword

im not really end of run

only like mid way through

[celest fox]

GY can do like 2500 on the special

[faint harness]

if I have a god keepsake but don't change it in-between areas is the first boon in the next place also going to be from that same god? or does it not work like that?

[prime perch]

damn

[celest fox]

No

It only triggers the forced god once per keepsake

[viscid notch]

It works 1 time only

[prime perch]

because of hades i havent touched my mouse and im scared to go back to games i use my mouse

[faint harness]

damn

[celest fox]

You can do it with 4 keepsakes but each only works once. Then it just boosts rarity

So sometimes it's worth keeping it on for one more biome

Say you want Engulfing Vortex