please spoiler tag the name of the boss 
#h1-for-new-players
leaden whale
Hammer or Patroclus (90/130 hp 3 death defiance)?
pastel cipher
patty because free room
leaden whale
Then healing or damage?
leaden whale
Spear
pastel cipher
either is good then, healing is great for survivability
but the damage is good to kill things faster
leaden whale
How about Hermes or Zeus + Athena? Seems like this run is the run of tough choices
gray haven
Elysium trials can be brutal if you're not that experienced yet.
Can you link a screenshot of your build?
leaden whale
sudden steppe
Athena trial in Elysium always sounds bad to me
muted latch
athena trial at Elysium is nasty
gray haven
Get the boon from Lord Hermes for sure.
muted latch
yeah take hermes
leaden whale
Got neither and instead Second Wind
drowsy steeple
with the mirror lets say I level up A then level up and select the B side does it lose A perks until i swap back or has both
muted latch
only the currently selected mirror talents are active
drowsy steeple
ok ty thats helpful
muted latch
you cant have stubborn defiance and death defiance active at the same time, for example
drowsy steeple
yep that makes sense
i was thiking about the boon rarity at the bottom like epic and legendary on each side
muted latch
only the one shown in the mirror is active
wooden salmon
Is 200 gems for a titans blood worth it?
pastel cipher
not at all
leaden whale
What happens with Ares' trial?
wooden salmon
not at all
I meant paying a titandblood for 200
compact trout
Not worth at all
leaden whale
Yeah it's not worth it
compact trout
What happens with Ares' trial?
He spawns a bunch of circles that move around and trigger every little bit
leaden whale
Ugh so similar to Dionysius
compact trout
He's not that bad
leaden whale
Yeah it's not that bad actually. Way easier than Dionysius
sudden steppe
Dio is stationary iirc, Ares moves around, but slowly
leaden whale
I struggle with Dio alot
sudden steppe
Yeah, he creates a lot more circles than Ares iirc
He keeps up with where you are faster
leaden whale
Especially since I'm using Coronacht, Ares is easier than Dio
sudden steppe
Understandable lmao
leaden whale
Half my current build is Ares boons and stuff lmao
Beat the second boss first try
Well kindq
I accidentally put my first save on Hell mode
Wait is Asterius the 3rd boss?
grave storm
||yes||
violet meteor
Wait is Asterius the 3rd boss?
||if you're talking about him alone, no, he's just a miniboss. if he's with theseus, yes. (if you beat him, alone, when you fight him with theseus he'll have some health cut off)||
leaden whale
Ah thanks.
thin vector
Hi I just started who's keepsake should I be getting early? Or do I just pop one for each person
dusty vault
one to each person is great, but skelly/cerb are nice to survive more at the start (+hp/death defiance with set health)
thin vector
Icic. Are there any weapons/aspects that are good early for progression?
dusty vault
Most people recommend bow/shield
Bow for the range and shield for the block
But you can win with anything so use what you like
ocean basalt
Yeah, don't make my mistake and take forever to give Skelly a nectar
His keepsake is aces
I'm sorry, Skelly, I misjudged you 😭
leaden whale
At what level are poms not worth it?
compact trout
They eventually fall off, it's god, rarity, and slot dependant though
I just pom until I'm like huh this increase isn't worth much then I pom something else
slow ferry
A good rule of thumb is that going over level 3 isn't worth it
But some poms are great even past that
leaden whale
Alright, and uh hammer or chaos at Elysium?
leaden whale
No Aspect on Sword
compact trout
What's your first hammer?
leaden whale
Dash Nova
Which I forgot I had lol
This is actually the second time this happens to me this run, first time I took hammer but now that I think about it I'm not sure
slow ferry
Hammer is better, but there's a chance you get the hammer later if you get the chaos now, and if you take the hammer you almost definitely won't get the chaos. It's just a question of how risky you're willing to play
Also it's a late chaos so you might end up with a curse in the elysium boss, which can be run destroying
compact trout
You also have dash nova which kinda sucks so a better hammer would be nice
leaden whale
Ah crap i was so close to winning when my brother not giving a crap about what i was doing started telling me about who knows what probably something completely unimportant as he always does and i died from the wave attack ;-;
glossy marsh
Hi I just started who's keepsake should I be getting early? Or do I just pop one...
Dusa can also be helpful at the start, as she gives each pot a chance to have a health pickup in them.
thin vector
Dusa can also be helpful at the start, as she gives each pot a chance to have a ...
any good aspects to work on first?
leaden whale
any good aspects to work on first?
i use the ||Twin Fists||, so i would say to use the ||"Magnetic Cutter"|| i find it pretty good
slow ferry
Get aspects in weapons you like
lavish summit
Do different angles of attack change the range of the attack? I feel my attacks have a way larger range when I attack downwards rather than updwards
boreal furnace
I'm stuck in the mid game can't beat ||Hades|| at ||high heat|| so not being able to upgrade weapons
Idk what to do
Only thing I could do is to save coins and buy ||titan blood|| from chiron
compact trout
I'm stuck in the mid game can't beat ||Hades|| at ||high heat|| so not being abl...
||how much heat are you on?||
Also ||heat|| is also a spoiler here, could you please spoiler mark it?
boreal furnace
Also ||heat|| is also a spoiler here, could you please spoiler mark it?
1&2 on some weapons
sturdy timber
With demeter fists.. i assume you try and build towards Merciful End?
silver flame
any % boon on special followed by zeus or some of the other base damage boons on attack is fine tbh
unreal scroll
Heyyy new player here. Day 3 = 18 failed runs
supple herald
Finally got my first Theseus and Asterius kill FeelsGoodMan
Is there osmething special about the $450 boon? why is it so expensive compared to the $150
pastel cipher
Garenteed at least rare or higher rarity boons
pale goblet
The 300 Pomegranate gives you +2 lvl’s to a boon, rather than +1
knotty rune
Heyyy new player here. Day 3 = 18 failed runs
solemn cliff
I am the spoiler master, bow before my lack of awareness
pale goblet
Charon in ||Styx|| Always sells a boon for 450, A Pom for 300, and either an Anvil or Hermes, alongside 2 other rewards and a blood/diamond for 1200-1000
dusty vault
I am the spoiler master, bow before my lack of awareness
||convenience fee|| is a spoiler here
knotty rune
thats going too far with the spoiler policy here tbh. nobody is going to have their experience ruined by finding out the name of some out of context thing. even i dont know what all the names for those are after nearly 80 hours.
imo there absolutely comes a point where constantly telling people to edit their messages and spoiler mark non spoilers just because they technically dont show up before the final boss gets more in the way of the chatroom then actually spoilers would.
i think its alittle bit rude if overused and harms accessibility and people ability to properly answer questions being asked, while also setting up massively skewed expectations for what this games spoilers really are. things would almost certainly progress alot smoother here if the words ||heat||, ||demeter||, and ||hidden aspects|| werent constantly being moderated so heavily. even when theyre just mentioned off handedly or out of context, or even when new players themselves are asking questions about them. the fact that they get brought up in this room so frequently in the first place tells us alot about how theyre relevant topics to the things that come up here.
but maybe thats just me. id love to hear what aspects of the end boss onward game experience the actual development team thinks counts as spoilers, since its not clarified in the rules or pinned messages.
grave storm
I think ||heat|| is the one that needs some revision because someone starting on hell mode has it from the start
pastel cipher
Everything you cannot see before reaching the final boss for the first time onwards is considered a spoiler here
In a normal save file
grave storm
that seems a bit confusing for people starting on hell mode, no?
knotty rune
i think its confusing in general
pastel cipher
Not really the vast majority don't start on hell mode
pale goblet
What new players start on hell mode
knotty rune
especially when it applies to just every proper noun or word
even when you arent spoiling anything about how they work
pastel cipher
i think its confusing in general
What about it is confusing?
grave storm
What new players start on hell mode
I've seen at least 2 in my time here
was tempted to myself
knotty rune
not to mention theres tons of stuff that may or not show up before or after the final boss depending on how you play the game and how long it takes you to clear it.
thats not even a clear dividing line within the game itself
personally speaking, i beat the final boss before i unlocked the fists and rail for example
i dont think everybody generally knows on a mechanical level whats possible or not possible to get / see before then, aside from ||heat|| on non hell mode of course
pastel cipher
Yeah, it's really tricky to come up with something that's a catch all for something like Hades because of the vast differances in experiences people have with it
Really doesn't help that the majority don't read channel descriptions or pinned messages (but that's mostly a discord formatting fault on mobile)
knotty rune
just to be clear i dont think that those topics should necessarily be fully allowed in this room or anything. I just think as a community we should let it slide more when that stuff does get brought up rather than asking people to spoiler mark edit messages after the fact, which happens multiple times per day here. especially when there was a good reason to bring it up / what they said didnt spoil anything about the mechanic aside from its name / when a new player themself is asking about it.
pastel cipher
i dont think everybody generally knows on a mechanical level whats possible or n...
Yeah, i tend to agree with that too
knotty rune
if that makes sense 
spiral pecan
What new players start on hell mode
me lol
pale goblet
why
spiral pecan
I watched my friend play it (he was trying to get me to buy it) and it looked way too easy
So for my playthrough, I just put it on Hell
pastel cipher
if that makes sense <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
Yeah, I get what you mean
I try to be friendly about it, but also mentioning the channel that is more relevent for the topic/query might help too?
Not sure how the channel description could be updated to be more susinct and accurate in what's a spoiler here however
rich jewel
hhhuhuuhhhh……
supple herald
Can you replenish Death Defiance if you haven't lost any yet?
proven pivot
no
slow ferry
when it says "replenish" it doesn't add an extra DD if you haven't lost one
opal agate
If i get a boon that buffs special, do i get a lower chance of getting a boon that buffs my attack from the same god
or does it not matter
slow ferry
nah there's nothin like that I think
opal agate
kk
supple herald
How many times does "Bloody frenzy" proc? If i have 3 death defiances left, will I get like 45% on my last life?
nocturne canopy
doesnt stack
supple herald
that's ok I picked it anyway
Man Thick Skin is absolutely bonkers, I was unable to even beat Theseus and Asterius but after I got thick skin I beat final boss, and now again second time in a row
Is there a guide for Gems, Ambrosia, and Diamonds? Really confused about which conversions I should make and which purchases to prioritise
As a result I'm too scared to even buy Fishing Rod, don't know I'm supposed to buy.
Also would be nice to trade for Titans blood or something.
sinful compass
Is there a guide for Gems, Ambrosia, and Diamonds? Really confused about which c...
Gems are used generally for early game upgrades, cosmetics and trading into keys; keys are used to unlock weapons, mirror upgrades, and traded into nectar; nectar is used for gifting anyone you like, or traded into diamonds; diamonds are used to purchase more meaningful upgrades that affect progression, like the fishing rod or pieces of music, and can be traded into ambrosia; ambrosia is used like nectar but only works if you've "maxed out" the heart gauge with a character, and can also be used to upgrade special keepsakes at the mid/late game, plus they can be uptraded into blood; finally, blood is the tip of the trading iceberg, and is exclusively used to upgrade weapon aspects.
Generally speaking, there's no bad way to spend your resources as they're theoretically infinite: as you can just accumulate gemstones and trade them into your preferred resources, there's no need to fret over the optimal spending pattern as long as you have the time to grind
sinful compass
As a result I'm too scared to even buy Fishing Rod, don't know I'm supposed to b...
The ROD OF FISHING unlocks the fishing minigame. Every biome (chaos/tartarus/asphodel/elysium/styx/surface), there's a chance for a fishing point to show up, indicated by a bright light around watery areas. As you finish the room and claim the boon, a sharp DING sound will also indicate its existence.
The fishing minigame works as a test of reflex - if the bobber goes down, you hit the [interact] button, and then you reel up the fish. Managing to complete the reflex minigame within 0.38 seconds will grant you a perfect catch, with better fish available. Each biome has 3 kinds of fish.
The fish can be traded at the house chef for various reaouces, ranging from gemstones to titan's blood. (if you manage to catch the surface legendary fish) Thre rewards from fish scale by biome. You keep the fish you caught even if you lose a run!
Hopefully this was helpful, took me 5 mins to compile
timid marlin
Gems are used generally for early game upgrades, cosmetics and trading into keys...
that was very helpful thanks
supple herald
Yes thanks heaps
sinful compass
Also the wiki is your best friend! Always check the broker for special deals
There's a rare trade that's 15 keys into 1 titan's blood - a steal!
Oh hey alma
faint umbra
gems are also used to purchase gameplay improvements early on in the work orders tab, so i recommend you dont spend them on cosmetics before youre done with that
supple herald
Oh yeah the broker just offered me something 5x the usual trading rate
supple herald
gems are also used to purchase gameplay improvements early on in the work orders...
Yep, for sure
Can you guys also help explain what does this mean btw?
"If I was starting a completely new character, I would never spend my first 16 Ambrosia on anything but getting and upgrading Shady (the companion that summons Bouldy and the Sisyphus care package).
Why? Because with that companion you have a far easier time buying Diamonds and Titan's Blood at the Styx shop. I prefer a permanent investment that provide steady returns over a shortsighted expenditure to slightly speed up runs at a low heat level.
Just make sure that you always have Nectar to give to Sisyphus to speed up the acquirement."
sinful compass
Hm
It's a bit hard to explain in a no-spoiler context
Working under the assumption that you don't know what ||companions|| are
faint umbra
||heat|| is spoilers in this channel, btw, please spoiler tag accordingly!
timid marlin
what is bouldy?
sinful compass
Tbh isillor was brash and could've had better wording, but they have a point
We need a better indicator of what a spoiler is and isn't
sinful compass
what is bouldy?
Later game keepsake - you see the six big locks at the bottom then you access your keepsakes?
Bouldy is one of them
timid marlin
ah
sinful compass
Well, the name is shady, but anyway
timid marlin
im guesing you get them using ambrosia or smth
pastel cipher
well, more specifically. Bouldy is the boulder that sisyphus is pushing up the hill :3
faint umbra
well, i said ||heat|| is a spoiler, not companions - i dont think those count as spoilers since you could get them before encountering the final boss if memory serves. they were counted as spoilers for a good while when they were freshly added to the game since people wanted to be nice about it and i think it stuck
pastel cipher
We need a better indicator of what a spoiler is and isn't
yeah, I do agree on this to an extent
sinful compass
ive just been giving all my nectar to Zeus and nyx tbh
Give to whoever you like! It's non-linear storytelling
You just have to max them all sooner or later
faint umbra
it is very hard to define what is a spoiler and what is not due to the nature of the game
sinful compass
And the varied experiences, yeah
proven pivot
IDK, it seems like "Things that require entering the final boss battle in a standard playthrough are spoilers" is good enough to me
pastel cipher
well, i said ||heat|| is a spoiler, not companions - i dont think those count as...
yeah, I think it is possible, since it from memory it doesn't have any final boss gated pre-reqs on it like ||4th aspects|| for example
supple herald
ok I see... in that case I guess I'll ask this, who should I stack my Nectar on after I get the God boons, is it Sisyphus as that guy said?
sinful compass
@supple herald i explained a bit in the discussion channel
But generally "whoever you like" is my go-to answer
If you want to finish the game ASAP, then there is an optimal strategy, but why would you do that
supple herald
yep thanks just read your other explanation. I see, so I do need to have the summon key binded in the future lol, ok
sinful compass
Yeah, it's used later in the game
timid marlin
summon key binded?
sinful compass
You see how the "summon" key doesn't currently do anything?
It's gonna do something later on
timid marlin
oh i thought it was a keepsake or smth not an actual thing i press on my controller lmao
sinful compass
Tbh so much of this channel can be solved by "just keep playing"
worldly iron
What should i do first? I just got the game and played through a few rooms and died
timid marlin
i would try playing the game it helped me alot
worldly iron
Let me rephrase what should i look at first to get a better understanding of the game
sinful compass
What should i do first? I just got the game and played through a few rooms and d...
Get used to the game and try out different gods! Also buy some of the better mirror upgrades, like death defiance and greater reflex
timid marlin
im gonna be honest i watched a boons guide on youtube
sinful compass
Right now your priority should be unlocking each weapon, so go ahead and get some keys by playing
timid marlin
it helped quite abit tbh
sinful compass
I recommend not doing what doby did to get an authentic experience, but I'm not gonna stop you if you do
timid marlin
hey
sinful compass
I milked this game for 200 hours, man, of course I'm gonna have people do the same
timid marlin
i dont mean like guide to what the best build or nuffin
i just how the system works
worldly iron
What exact type of game is it might i ask?
timid marlin
roguelite i think
worldly iron
Like is it a game that having spreadsheets/charts is beneficial?
sinful compass
What exact type of game is it might i ask?
A game where you lose over and over again, gaining resources each time to make your next run easier - a roguelite
It's not a spreadsheet game like an MMO, no
But spreadsheets do help in later contexts
Your first 10 successful runs or so can be completed completely organically, though
worldly iron
What does ‘organically’ mean
sinful compass
Meaning "without outside help"
sinful compass
The "balls" indicate what reward you will get if you cleared that room
worldly iron
Do i just need to look up what they mean or
sinful compass
Possible rewards include gems, darkness, boons, hammers, coin and poms
sinful compass
Do i just need to look up what they mean or
You could, if you don't understand
Or you can ask here!
Here to help
timid marlin
i mean you get the hang of it in a couple runs
if not you could always search it up
pastel cipher
@worldly iron #h1-builds-and-combat message
pastel cipher
no worries
worldly iron
Thank you
Is there a new thing every time i die
Like different things in that area i spawn in
sinful compass
The map is randomly generated each new run
sinful compass
Ah, the house of hades?
worldly iron
I guess
sinful compass
Every time a run ends, the story will be progressed if you meet the criteria
worldly iron
Ah ok
sinful compass
You can see if a character has story progression based on if they have an exclamation mark above them
Characters to check are Achilles (left side) and Nyx (before your room)
sinful compass
Yep, check to see what upgrades you can get
Save enough darkness for the Death Defiance and Greater Reflex upgrades, as they will help a lot
Other notable upgrades are Boiling Blood, Infernal Soul and Thick Skin
worldly iron
Ight thank you
dreamy pike
Without mentioning spoilers, I FINALLY MADE IT TO THE END!
sinful compass
Without mentioning spoilers, I FINALLY MADE IT TO THE END!
WELL DONE
Now do it again!
dreamy pike
I will!
supple herald
If I keep the same God boon, will it apply again to make my next boon guaranteed? (I already equipped it start of last floor)
sinful compass
If I keep the same God boon, will it apply again to make my next boon guaranteed...
Keepsakes only guarantee the appearance of a god once per run
Although they always boost the rarity of the God's boons
So if I took zeus's bracelet in tartarus, I'd always get a zeus boon in tartarus, but I wouldn't always get a zeus boon in asphodel
supple herald
ok ty
sinful crescent
Yo how do u unlock Dionysuses locked heart
sinful crescent
K thank
sinful compass
Also you have to have given 10 ambro to characters, total
supple herald
Is there a good list for (edit)
sinful compass
@pastel cipher if you'd mind?
pastel cipher
there's no real easiest config, try out everything
also, ||heat|| is spoilers in this channel as an fyi @supple herald
sinful compass
Thanks <3
pastel cipher
no worries
leaden whale
I just unlocked a ||cthonic companion|| at least I think that's what it's called. Is it worth spending Ambrosia to upgrade it?
sinful compass
I just unlocked a ||cthonic companion|| at least I think that's what it's called...
If you like it, sure
Upgrading it adds to the number of times you can use it in one run
naive creek
I just unlocked a ||cthonic companion|| at least I think that's what it's called...
I'd say 100%
leaden whale
Okay cool. It's from Meg so not sure if that's a good one or not?
sinful compass
Most frequently used one, ever
Use it clear the styx miniboss rooms
You can also use it against Hydra, asterius, or the king and the bull
leaden whale
Oh that's a great idea, I'll definitely invest at least a couple of ambrosia then!
odd shoal
mental stone
Hey, I have a question regarding the mirror...
naive creek
Yea?
mental stone
Infernal soul or stygian soul?
sinful compass
Stygian is generally better
naive creek
I'd beg to differ
sinful compass
Infernal is if you hate picking up casts
mental stone
I thought Stygian was the auto reload one?
Yep
naive creek
Yeah then Infernal IMO
sinful compass
Wait what
Man I suck at names
3 casts is better than 1
Whichever it is that gives three casts
naive creek
I'd say the only time you'd use stygian is with fists when you only need it to hit floating enemies over a pit or something
Because it's nice to just have it regen since it's not a priority
mental stone
Thanks Defiance and FizzlyPop, really helped!
naive creek
Np
leaden whale
How do I beat final boss
sinful compass
How do I beat final boss
Read his patterns, take your time, get good builds - ask for builds specific to your preferred weapon
Max out the mirror
leaden whale
Well I use shield and bow
leaden whale
For sheild I use the one after zag
leaden whale
And in bow it’s zag and chiron
leaden whale
And in bow it’s zag and chiron
Here
sinful compass
Ah, I love chiron bow
leaden whale
Right, you need to max it for it to be effective
Ah alr
supple herald
Oh boy, I just clicked a purchase in the conversion shop when I didn't have enough Darkness I believe, but it still bought it, did it autoconvert something else?
sinful compass
It doesn't autoconvert
You probably just bought something else
No matter
Resources in this game are infinite
leaden whale
Do you usually full cast or partial cast?
median breach
Full or partial?
median breach
Depends on the God then
Artemis usually I full cast, most others are fine with partial cast
Demeter is actually more optimal to partial cast
I say without the timer boosting boon I'd full cast with Poseidon unless ya need the 1 second of iframes, but if you have the one that boosts the time of it by 1.2-1.5 seconds then partial cast
Zeus just sucks
And I dunno about the others
sinful compass
It only starts recharging after you fire the cast @median breach
sinful compass
Do you usually full cast or partial cast?
Full casts: Artemis, Aphrodite, Ares for big damage
Partial casts: Dio (you only need to apply 5 stacks of hangover), Zeus (to apply jolted), Athena (to get out of sticky situations), Poseidon (same as athena), Demeter (AOE CC)
If you're on controller, you can also use Poseidon as big damage but on KBM it's unwieldy
Also, some people use Athena call to just tank face damage and deal as much damage as possible without worrying about dodging
median breach
Zeus ya really gotta be hugging the enemies tho in my experience
leaden whale
well this is incredibly confusing until you go up and realise it's actually about calls
leaden whale
well this is incredibly confusing until you go up and realise it's actually abou...
Yep
Ares call is pretty cool I like it demeters and ares are my favourite so I’m not really sure about the other calls
leaden whale
hey can someone tell me how to unlock the last spear aspect??
sinful compass
hey can someone tell me how to unlock the last spear aspect??
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
leaden whale
thx
supple herald
Is fateful twist (get a random item from the well $45) actually worth buying?
nocturne saddle
For the ability pressure points it says any damage u deal has a chance to be critical. It has +4% chance to crit. If i deal 50 damage will that 50 as a whole have a 4% chance to crit or is it split up into 1’s so 50 different 4% chances to crit?
sinful compass
Is fateful twist (get a random item from the well $45) actually worth buying?
I wouldn't say so
sinful compass
For the ability pressure points it says any damage u deal has a chance to be cri...
The former
nocturne saddle
Thanks
leaden whale
How do I beat ||Asterius by himself|| with Coronacht? I'm decent at avoiding most of his attacks but when he charges towards you I always get hit.
And he deals massive damage.
dusty vault
How do I beat ||Asterius by himself|| with Coronacht? I'm decent at avoiding mos...
When he chases you need to make him collide with any wall/pillar
dusty vault
If you are using the bow you should have the distance to see the attack starting too
leaden whale
Ah okay. Thanks. He'll probably be easier once I can put Titans blood on my Coronacht.
When I get Aspect of Chiron on it, it'll become way better. Because the special on Coronacht isn't the greatest.
dusty vault
Good luck
leaden whale
Thanks.
wooden salmon
how to unlock aspects
leaden whale
The game is so easy now I'm not playing on hell mode.
dusty vault
how to unlock aspects
Get all weapons then do a run after
Result of it doesnt matter
leaden whale
how to unlock aspects
You have to have access to every weapon and then you can use it after a run
Yeah that
Damn I hate the spear though.
Spear and Rail are my least favourite weapons ngl
dusty vault
Achilles is great for cast builds
If you dont like the attacks
Also try it with flurry jab, makes the spear way better imo
leaden whale
Spear is okay in some places, rail trash imo.
dusty vault
Rail with zeus attack is great 
leaden whale
Oh yeah it would be never even thought of that
Rail with Dio special might be quite good too
dusty vault
Its fun
dusty vault
Wait special no
leaden whale
Isn't that the grenade thing
leaden whale
Like Artemis or Poseidon
leaden whale
Oh Artemis on Special would be cruel
dusty vault
Rail attack is weak so something like dio/zeus are better
Dio with eris rail is pretty fun too
leaden whale
||What actually makes Alecto and Tisiphone appear? Is it a certain number of runs or is it a certain event in meeting someone ect? Or is it beating Meg a certain number of times?||
leaden whale
Ah. Because they showed up randomly and I died to ||Tisiphone|| and I was confused. I know it's something to do with the ||War on the Surface or something.||
leaden whale
I dont know the exact number of times
I think it's like 15
I was on close to run 30 when she appeared and I died roughly 15 times to Meg beforehand.
I've heard a lot of my friends struggled with the ||Hydra in Asphodel|| but on Hell mode I beat it after 5 tries and non hell I beat it first try.
It was just stressful because it summons the ||mini heads.||
compact trout
How do u guys avoid getting caught in the lava in asphodel
practice and experience knowing dash range
leaden whale
Thank you
dusty vault
If you have extra dashes you can probably dash back to land safe too
compact trout
also the lava has like a second grace period, keeping that in mind helps a lot
leaden whale
How do you guys stop yourselves from getting frustrated when loosing?
brazen cobalt
Once you lose enough you don’t feel it anymore
leaden whale
How much is enough?
I already beat the game several times and I am actually getting more frustrated now than previously
brazen cobalt
Prob cause you know you’re capable of winning but are still falling short
leaden whale
Well that's the position I'm at, constantly capable but constantly falling short lol
brazen cobalt
there are many reasons why a run can fail, no point getting too frustrated, especially when you can’t control it
dusty vault
i just laugh off all my deaths tbh, either by dumb mistakes or "eh, whatever"
brazen cobalt
^^^
proven pivot
I've failed at everything I've attempted in my life, that's how I don't get frustrated from losing
leaden whale
Nice
lime sand
Question. Whats the diference in hell mode?
dusty vault
Question. Whats the diference in hell mode?
||you start with the pact of punishment and always on 5 heat, also an extra pact that turns off that shield that pop ups when you receive too much damage really quick||
sinful compass
How do you guys stop yourselves from getting frustrated when loosing?
I don't lose /s
But in reality, I look back on what I could've done better in a run. It's easy to say and make sweeping generalizations that "RNG screwed you over" but that's simply not true in most cases.
A good example would be my fight against the final boss. I always dashed (and even now, still dash) into the shockwaved emitted, and I keep that in mind while I fire up the next run, determined to not make the same mistake again (even though I eventually do)
The point is to not take your losses as failures, but as learning experiences, just like zag does
Asterius is charging at you and does massive damage? Dodging behind a pillar does the trick in stopping him. Lava keeps burning your feet? Just don't dash as much in asphodel so you can have a more precise movement. Satyrs got you down with their darn poison mechanics? Learn to stay by the antidote pools so you can cure yourself, or deflect the dart and make them eat poison
Bottom line: it's okay to feel frustrated. What's important is what you do with that frustration - fuel your anger, or pump up your motivation to beat the game?
leaden whale
Thanks
mental stone
Is the exploding launcher worth it?
civic summit
Is the exploding launcher worth it?
yes
leaden whale
I don't lose /s
But in reality, I look back on what I could've done better in a...
I guess what I have been doing that but I did it to justify my losses not to learn something from them and I guess I should accept that I won't get better at something after just one run and some things take time to git gud at
sinful compass
Boucing back from losses is an inherently good thing to learn in life! Can't let failures get you down
civic summit
What're the improvements?
it does more damage and doesn't leave your spear on the other side of the room
mental stone
Tks guys
boreal furnace
What are the best status effects
slow ferry
Hangover hits real hard
boreal furnace
Can I have two status effects from the same attack?
maiden ruin
If you have seastorm you can apply jolted and rupture
civic summit
You can also get it done with Sea Storm (but that requires at least 5 boons)
faint umbra
go to the keepsake cabinet and just select them, they should show up at the left side of your screen below your boon slots
spark knoll
go to the keepsake cabinet and just select them, they should show up at the left...
where’s that?
faint umbra
in the courtyard to the left of your weapons
spark knoll
ah thanks!
icy steeple
hey so i just found out i can switch my upgrades in the mirror
like red to green
which ones should i be using?
brazen cobalt
I use some red, some green, it’s mostly preference and playstyle
icy steeple
and also is it random the order u unlock those in?
brazen cobalt
No, it’s a set order as you move down the mirror
dusty vault
the only one that would be better most of the time is dark foresight (counterpart of olympian favor) unless you need to grind resources
rich cosmos
how exactly do duos work? how can i consistently get them?
dusty vault
you need to have 2 pre requisites from the 2 gods you want (codex upgrade lets you check which ones)
-once you have them, getting a boon of either of the 2 can have a chance of the duo appearing
faint umbra
learn their prerequisites, and get items, boons and upgrades that boost boon rarity and duo boon chance
lament horizon
Just got my first 2 clears!
dusty vault
congrats 
leaden whale
What aspect is best for Coronacht?
dusty vault
all are great
leaden whale
In my Hell save I'm using Chiron I think but are there any better aspects?
Also how do I get the Rail and Fists to appear?
civic summit
Also how do I get the Rail and Fists to appear?
as unlock other weapons they appear with locks on them.
leaden whale
Right. So I just gotta get the others. Not too bad then.
dusty vault
chiron is fine, needs the level up more than others imo but it works
leaden whale
It's just that Coronacht has a pretty lacklustre special imo
dusty vault
if anything you use special just to open duo boons 
leaden whale
Duo boons?
dusty vault
Duo boons?
boons that require a boon from 2 different gods
sweet root
hera and the hidden aspect are probably the best "one point wonders"
in that you can just unlock their first level and they will be good
chiron requires you investing a lot of blood to be good
the default zag bow also wants you to max it out, but that only costs 5 blood which is pretty low
leaden whale
How is that low
sweet root
the other three aspects require 15 or 16 blood to max
leaden whale
I'm only at Asterius on Elysium.
leaden whale
wait you're on hell mode aren't you
No I made a new save. It's my first run, so I'm gonna do a normal run first.
sweet root
but basically, you get 2 titans blood per completed run
up to a max of 240 titans blood
dusty vault
beating the final boss also gets you another titan blood, then after that you get the faster way to get more
leaden whale
Is that per weapon on the final or every time?
dusty vault
x weapon
sweet root
after that, if you want extra blood, you need to farm it by either getting a ton of gold or by trading other resources for it
civic summit
Also prophecies
sweet root
240 blood total by beating the game across all six weapons
oh yeah, prophecies also give you blood
icy steeple
do i unlock more wtuff if i give ppl more nectar then just 1
sweet root
no gameplay related stuff
dusty vault
most of them dont unlock more
sweet root
though some storylines require you to build relationship
so building relationship will eventually translate to gameplay related stuff
way later down the line
leaden whale
do i unlock more wtuff if i give ppl more nectar then just 1
If you give a lot to Meg something fun happens at the end there.
sweet root
the nectar isn't wasted
leaden whale
I think.
sweet root
it's just an "investment" for a lot later
icy steeple
theres multiple storylines👀
sweet root
:^)
icy steeple
it's just an "investment" for a lot later
ahhh ok
sweet root
yeah each character has an individual sidequest/story line
icy steeple
thats sick
sweet root
that unlocks as you talk to them more and give them more nectar
leaden whale
I think I know one
leaden whale
Yeah I'm not gonna but I have a feeling I know what one of them
Is
God I hate Asterius
sweet root
he's really hard at first but once you learn his patterns he's pretty simple
he only has like two or three different attacks
leaden whale
Any tips for the fight against ||The double boss battle in Elysium?||
sweet root
the most important thing for asterius is that you want to dash through him, not away from him
his swings dont hit you when you're behind him
dusty vault
target the bull first
civic summit
Any tips for the fight against ||The double boss battle in Elysium?||
focus on the bull first, use the pillars to dodge the spear.
leaden whale
he only has like two or three different attacks
I can dodge him mainly but I consistently get hit by his rush. I don't know how I'm gonna beat the final fight in Elysium.
sweet root
for the rush, run up to a pillar, and then when he gets close dash through the pillar
he should headbutt the pillar and stun himself
dusty vault
you have a target on you that shows when the spear is about to be thrown at you
leaden whale
Now I feel stupid.
proven pivot
you can dash through terrain
Most terrain anyways
dusty vault
a wall/the other guy can also stop the chase attack
proven pivot
some of it is too big to go through
leaden whale
I HATE ASPHODEL OH MY GOD
sweet root
for the boss battle, you usually want to kill asterius first
leaden whale
THE LAVA
sweet root
focus on killing him while keeping a pillar between theseus and you
the pillar will block his spear shot
if you can't, learn the timing for when you need to dash to dodge his spear
leaden whale
Asterius is really simple. It's just if you get hit you lose so much health.
sweet root
if you're struggling on that boss fight, you can potentially take the acorn keepsake
but it should get easier as you learn the patterns
leaden whale
if you're struggling on that boss fight, you can potentially take the acorn keep...
Who do you get that from?
Oh I made the mistake of giving Hades nectar
dusty vault
if you have a powerful call, as soon you enter the other guy 50% hp he will be completely vulnerable
so go crazy
sweet root
Who do you get that from?
Eurydice
leaden whale
You can't do anything with him and Nectar right?
sweet root
hades will eventually give you a keepsake with enough nectar
sweet root
but its locked behind the post game
dusty vault
hades will eventually give you a keepsake with enough nectar
thats a spoiler too
sweet root
Not a clue who that is ngl
she's in the ! room in asphodel
civic summit
Ah. I gave him one and he just yelled at me
which is fine for now.
sweet root
acorn is the best keepsake if you're struggling with the elysium boss or last boss
leaden whale
So focus on Asterius first, then the other dude?
After that there's only one more boss battle right?
And that's gonna be the biggest pain ever
sweet root
So focus on Asterius first, then the other dude?
yes
if you have a call, save the greater call for phase 2 of theseus
you should do phase 1 and 2 asterius and phase 1 theseus without using your call
leaden whale
I never actually get calls.
sweet root
in order to kill theseus effectively, keep in mind that he turns around after he throws his spear
leaden whale
They've never been that useful to me
sweet root
so the general pattern is dodge his spear, hit him a few times while his back is turned, repeat
taking a call is useful for boss fights
they're generally not useful for shorter rooms
leaden whale
Right. Its funny that I'm gonna get to the final boss before ||Tisiphone and Alecto|| appear.
dusty vault
calls arent something you really build to, but they are always nice to have
aphro/artemis being the ones you pretty much only use on bosses due to need to be greater call
leaden whale
Dio, Ares, Artemis, Aphro are the Gods I build around mainly.
dusty vault
the rest work as extra dps/safety at lesser call
dio call is great unless you have other sources of hangover
ares is alright? doesnt give much dps but you can use it to escape damage
leaden whale
Because getting Doom on attack and Hangover on Special with Aspect of Chiron worked wonders I've found.
dusty vault
oh you use hangover chiron, nice
leaden whale
Or something along those lines
leaden whale
oh you use hangover chiron, nice
On my other file yeah. Not sure which aspect I'm gonna use on this one tho
dusty vault
i suggest using using aphro attack instead, bigger damage and it unlocks a good duo boon with hangover
leaden whale
Yeah both work
dusty vault
(ares-dio duo is also nice but you dont need attack)
leaden whale
Usually Artemis is the God I go for because critical damage on Coronacht is amazinf
600 damage like yes please
More of that
sweet root
for chiron, starting with artemis, aphrodite, or dio special is probably best
leaden whale
Yeah
sweet root
they generally have the most consistently achieveable builds
leaden whale
I think going Aphro attack, Dio special and then just slotting in Artemis wherever else works well.
Poseidon works quite nice but drops off later imo
dusty vault
hangover chiron is nice bc even without duo boons as long you have a lot of poms it still works
sweet root
calls arent something you really build to, but they are always nice to have
one thing to keep in mind is that the value of a call changes based on your aspect
you build a fixed amount of gauge every hit
leaden whale
Poseidon has some of the most fun boons though.
sweet root
so some aspects build god gauge really quickly, and missing a call on those aspects is noticeable for boss fights
leaden whale
Dashing about In Tartarus with Poseidon Dash is some of the most fun I've had in a game in a while
dusty vault
poseidon dash is great if you get any of the 2 wall slam boons
leaden whale
I've kinda hit a wall now where I need to find a build otherwise progressing is quite hard. Especially the final boss. If you try to fight the final boss without a proper build you're gonna have a rough time.
languid dune
what pact ya got on
broken mauve
does forging a bond for the ||queen's plan|| prophecy mean full hearts including ambrosia?
compact trout
Yep
icy steeple
r the talents unlocked in a random order?
icy steeple
cool thx
supple herald
Totally random question, but any tricks for dealing with the witches that spam purple balls?
Usually doesn't affect the runs (so far anyway) but want to lose less hp
(without Athena)
sweet root
you can attack projectiles to destroy them
dusty vault
lot of your moves destroy projectiles
sword and bow specially are good at that
sweet root
or position behind a wall
dusty vault
if you use shield you can just block
sweet root
or get real good at bullet hell games
most of the time it's easiest to use your movement to avoid them
or failing that, position yourself in a way that your attack will hit both an enemy and the incoming projectile
obtuse fox
If you use ||aspect of Arthur|| I've noticed the fight gets exceptionally easier
supple herald
lot of your moves destroy projectiles
sword and bow specially are good at that
Bow for sure, Sword are you referring to the special?
dusty vault
yup
dusty vault
rail i think doesnt destroy and casts
obtuse fox
The spears spin is pretty good for it as well
supple herald
yeah I think rail was an issue
Maybe this is gonna sound noob but stuff like this is why I bought Aspect of Talos for fist and am really liking it so far, seems to solve ranged issue for fist
sweet root
getting good with your movement also solves that issue eventually
supple herald
Pulling enemies away from packs, pulling enemies away from traps, pulling them out of dangerous terrain, etc.
sweet root
but talos is quite good when you're less experienced
supple herald
Yeah for sure
obtuse fox
Fists in general are good for newer players, and more experienced ones as well
pale goblet
Being closer to enemies can make it harder to dodge though
supple herald
I think my worst weapon might be the Bow, maybe because it needs more Titan's blood
dusty vault
hera aspect is decent without titan blood
supple herald
My mob control was very poor, I was using Hera aspect (only 1 run tho)
because when the casts are in the enemy, I feel super weak
pale goblet
For Bow I’d recommend the Aspect of Chiron
dusty vault
what cast you were using by chance?
also chiron is nice but really wants titan blood
supple herald
Poseidon, I didn't have better God boons at the time, I will try Aphrodite and Dionysus right
pale goblet
also chiron is nice but really wants titan blood
When you max it it’s so goooood though
dusty vault
athena cast is decent too, leads into 2 good duo boons (lightning phalanx and parting shot)
supple herald
Is there a breaking point for Chiron when it comes to Titan's blood? I think I might invest into that
Because I think the bow is the weapon where I need the blood most
dusty vault
i think lvl 4 at least imo
pale goblet
Level 4 has 7 arrows, which is the amount it had pre-buff anyway
sweet root
all bow aspects are good, but they all have very different playstyles
dusty vault
tho ig you can use it at low level if you get the +4 arrows
sweet root
if you are fine with hitting power shots you can just max zag bow
which only takes 5 blood I think
but you have to get really good at dash attacking for your damage
and hitting your power shots while charging
supple herald
I think I'll hold the blood and maybe stick to Hera for now tbh, if lv4 is required for Chiron
Not too interested in Zagreus
pale goblet
Chiron is, funnily enough, god-teir
dusty vault
poseidon cast can still work for easy access to mirage shot
sweet root
chiron is really straightforward and powerful when maxed
good for new players because it lets you do a lot of damage while being safe
pale goblet
2 of its Daedalus hammers make it stupidly powerful aswell
strong turret
Dusa
worldly iron
Should i unlock all the weapons or more upgrades with the keys
sand river
i like to get the weapons out of the way first
or like split them
until the mirror upgrades start to get more expensive
glossy mica
Hey Just started hades today I'm have trouble with a boss or should I say bosses.. can remember the name but it's a duo fight with one enemy having a bow and another having an axe... And tips and sorry if this sounds dumb but my favorite weapon is aegis not sure if that really affects anything
sweet root
kill the minotaur first
get good at dodging theseus's spear throw while fighting the minotaur
you can either hide behind a pillar or time your dash for when he throws his spear
for the minotaur specifically, it's better to dash towards him than away from him
he has a blind spot behind him where his swings don't hit
after you kill the minotaur, you have to deal with theseus's shield
the easiest way to do this is to bait out a spear throw, then hit him
theseus always turns around for a little bit after he throws his spear, which leaves him exposed and easy to hit
if you have a call, save it for theseus's second phase
those are all the general points for the boss fight @glossy mica
opal agate
im havin trouble with theseus and mino ||(EM3)|| whats the gimmick
also ||how many times do i have to complete the game after the 10 to reach the end||
pale goblet
There is no gimmick
You just suffer
opal agate
;(((
pale goblet
also ||how many times do i have to complete the game after the 10 to reach the e...
||You have to give nectar and ambrosia to every god||
opal agate
also why does the game not have apollo, hera or hephaestus lmfao, seems like a wasted opportunity.
opal agate
||You have to give nectar and ambrosia to every god||
oh wow yikers
pale goblet
also why does the game not have apollo, hera or hephaestus lmfao, seems like a w...
Yeah, it sucks but can’t be helped
pale goblet
oh wow yikers
Yikers indeed
opal agate
no dlc either
pastel cipher
also why does the game not have apollo, hera or hephaestus lmfao, seems like a w...
here's an answer from Greg as to why they aren't in the game
#ask-supergiant message
opal agate
F
sick beacon
dusa is hot
leaden whale
What's the chance to get Kiss of Styx?
hello, how do i unlock weapon aspects? I already unlocked all weapon
How much weapons do you have?
6
Then click on your picked weapon a second time in the house of hades
From there you need to buy 'em with titan blood
Uh click what?
The weapon you wanna get aspects for where skelly is twice
I select weapon then press what key for aspects?
chrome pond
you interact with the weapon again after you pick it up
if it doesn’t work i think you might needa do a few more runs to unlock them
leaden whale
How to interact?
chrome pond
same button to pick it up, on m+k it’s “e” i think
leaden whale
I press e and nothing happened after selecting a weapon
chrome pond
think you’ll needa do a couple more runs then
it didn’t take long for mine to unlock after getting all of them
glossy marsh
Maybe Achilles has to tell you about them?
It's been a while myself.
chrome pond
i don’t remember talking to achilles
i walked into the room and my bf pointed it out lmao
leaden whale
hm ok
midnight violet
I press e and nothing happened after selecting a weapon
You'll know when you can
When it's available it'll tell you to do it
sick beacon
Hades is hot
verbal gulch
Hades is hot
I mean his feet are litterally on fire
verbal gulch
How does the mirror perk Family Favorite work? I don't understand it
grave storm
For each unique Olympian god whose boon you have, gain +x% damage
verbal gulch
As in, different gods, or as in different effects from the same god?
grave storm
different
verbal gulch
which one XD
grave storm
Olympian = everyone except Chaos
verbal gulch
No, which differnt. I wrote 2 possiblities:
- Different gods
- different effects from the same god
grave storm
1
chilly briar
every enemy is a foe
sinful compass
In short, Family Favourite provides a flat 5% damage increase from every damage source for every god you have.
E.G. You currently have Zeus's Attack Boon, Poseidon's Dash boon and Athena's Cast boon. Your cast/dash/attack/special/call now do 15% more damage to all enemies.
It's 5% if you purchase both levels, of course
sinful compass
You could just ask here
verbal gulch
Fair enough. What are some good options for the sword and the bow when I get a hammer? And which ones should I usually avoid?
sinful compass
To my knowledge, the best hammer boon in nay given scenario differs
sinful compass
Yeah I really can't think of a comprehensive list of which boons are simply better
slow ferry
Everything else is fine
verbal gulch
Cursed slash bad? ;o
chilly briar
its not that good
sinful compass
In some cases, you'd want to choose triple shot over another hammer boon
chilly briar
doesnt work with dash strikes
slow ferry
Sword too slow to make the healing strong, and the penalty can be catastrophic
sinful compass
Cursed slash bad? ;o
It removes a large chunk of your effective health, and as Bruh said, doesn't work with Dash-Strikes, which should be your main source of damage
compact trout
The only time cursed slash is useable is with flurry slash and even then it's just for meme builds
slow ferry
If you get cursed slash get it early, and don't forget you have it
sinful compass
Triple shot is pretty good
Definitely not a catch-all statement, though - Chiron?
slow ferry
Well for chiron you really want that one that boosts your special
sinful compass
You'd definitely want the +4 shots and consec damage hammers
slow ferry
But are you really gonna cry about getting triple shot on it
sinful compass
I wouldn't cry even if I had sniper shot on chiron lmao
compact trout
I mean ideally you get special stuff for Chiron but more attacks isn't ever bad really
sinful compass
Double shot might be risky for beginners to use, though
Without good dash-strike timing, you're not gonna be hitting things
slow ferry
Twin shot will teach beginners the truth, that bow is a melee weapon
Uh but yeah you're right
sinful compass
Lmao ah yes the bow/gun are the melee weapons while spear/poseidon sword are the ranged weapons
slow ferry
Well gun can shoot at range instantly especially hestia
verbal gulch
Is there a ''best'' variant for the sword and bow? (the thing you upgrade with titan blood)
slow ferry
The other notable bow hammer is explosive shot, in that it's for cool kids only
verbal gulch
Or is it just personal prefference
slow ferry
Well early on you might want the aspects that are strong at level 1 instead of working towards the aspects that are strong at level 5
You unlock the strong part of poseidon aspect at level 1, while nemesis aspect needs more levels to get that good
I think hera is the good at level 1 bow
But idk
livid jackal
Hera aspect is really good on first level
verbal gulch
What about at max level?
livid jackal
maxed level basically any aspect is good
sinful compass
Poseidon remains good at max but Nemesis is arguably better at max level as sword
slow ferry
Yeah nemesis lvl 5 feels real strong to me
livid jackal
Any sword aspect is super fun
sinful compass
all aspects in this game are viable, really - the balance team did well
The weakest aspect I can currently think of is Zag shield
arctic plinth
How do I get new titan blood? I’ve already beat Meg with each of my weapons, so is there no other option to get new Titans blood in the game?
sinful compass
How do I get new titan blood? I’ve already beat Meg with each of my weapons, so ...
You get titan blood by trading and both meg and the final boss award blood when defeated
If you find yourself unable to beat the game, it's certainly possible to simply farm the miscellaneous resources (nectar, keys) and uptrade them into more valuable resources
verbal gulch
If you find yourself unable to beat the game, it's certainly possible to simply ...
That's what I did, took me roughly 12 hours of gameplay to kill the final boss first the first time
sinful compass
Yep, the game can allow you to progress at your own rate!
leaden whale
Why is it that whenever I play with the sword I loose when the boss is an inch away from dying
verbal gulch
In the boss battle where you fight 2 of them at the same time, is it better to focus the bull or the guy first?
leaden whale
No matter if I have full hp and max dd or only 80% and no dd
leaden whale
In the boss battle where you fight 2 of them at the same time, is it better to f...
The guy
leaden whale
Hm really? I always killed him first
sinful compass
The bull deals far more damage; just keep an eye on when Theseus launches his spear and he's a non-issue
Plus, he's stationary and vulnerable while he calls upon a god, so there's your chance to kill him
sinful compass
Why is it that whenever I play with the sword I loose when the boss is an inch a...
Not enough damage is usually the main culprit
It's widely agreed upon that ||TD1 is free heat||
So start with that
verbal gulch
TD1?
sinful compass
||Tight deadline||
Right I just remembered
||heat|| is redacted in this channel
Please edit to reflect rhat
Or just delete your message, either is fine
verbal gulch
idk how to redact it ;p
verbal gulch
alright
leaden whale
What area do I have to get to in order to find duo boons?
compact trout
You can get them from anywhere, but they appear more often with the gods' legacy mirror upgrade, second to last one
green side
leaden whale
Ah okay. Thanks. Need Aphro Dio duo boon for my build
arctic plinth
Anyone know how to get the fishing pole?
sinful compass
Anyone know how to get the fishing pole?
You can purchase ut at the contractor
sinful compass
Prerequisites for the rod are "reach styx", purchase the fated list of minor prophecies, and purchasing Tartarus' fountain room
You do not need contractor's desk deluxe
leaden whale
Who are all the rulers of the underworld, and how do I meet them?
bright ridge
Is it impossible to get Dionysis using Shield of Chaos? Ive done so many runs, kept restarting to look for the boon thing, but can never get him
dusty vault
Just bad rng
leaden whale
are you talking about ```hades```
Yeah on the fated list there's a bunch of them. There's 3 I've not met
Could they be ||Alecto Tisiphone and Thanatos?||
faint umbra
yes they could be
obtuse fable
You meet the rest of the rulers of the underworld naturally as you progress through the story.
sinful compass
Is it impossible to get Dionysis using Shield of Chaos? Ive done so many runs, k...
Use the overflowing chalice or whatever it's called
Dio's keepsake
plain mulch
how can i defeat the fury at tartarus cause ive done so many runs laready and only passed by with luck to asphodel but after that evry time i went back to beat her i couldnt pass and ive used lots of boons, each weapins have maxes in something at the mirror in ur room but i cant still beat her so what do i do
pale goblet
Have you tried the age old technique
Of get good?
brisk basin
love the game but man cant get pass the 3rd boss lol just cant seem to do alot of damage and bad rng
plain mulch
Have you tried the age old technique
Of get good?
haha very funny
warm ermine
often u need to:
-learn patterns (u are immune during dash but not anymore as long as you dash attack)
-get better at building
-||git gud lmao||
for meg u want to keep up the pressure and dodge when she crouches for a dash forward of rises for a sort of AOE, go far when she summons the projectiles, try not to focus on the adds and when she summons the circles avoid it, hit her and repeat @plain mulch
a second dash REALLY helps as it allows you to double your time immune
plain mulch
cheers for that mate, this will be very helpful
warm ermine
if this is too hard for now, play safe
sinful compass
Basic beginner's tips: cast is good, always have at least 1 cast in your boss
Taking your time never hurts
Understand each boss' attack pattern- meg has 4: dash, AOE, "here's a venn diagram" and projectile vomiting
Plan accordingly
warm ermine
but with enough practice she becomes a joke
brisk basin
guess he havent encountered the other sisters they surprised me
warm ermine
the other sisters are quite easier for me
sinful compass
love the game but man cant get pass the 3rd boss lol just cant seem to do alot o...
Your situation slightly differs from my first comment in that you're later in the game and cam afford better builds - if you'd comment your preferred weapon, the helpful folks here will suggest a good build to go with it
Again, standard advice applies
Theseus has a total of two moves in the first stage
warm ermine
id recommend focusing on the bull
sinful compass
Close range AOE and long range spear snipe - he'll smack you with spear if close and shoot you with spear if far
Keep that in mind and focus on the bull
Asterius outputs more damage and is thus more dangerous
brisk basin
i do just getting tit to much and the damage im doing on the way to the boss is not enough. i like the spear and sword mostly just unlock gauntlets fun but a bit hard
sinful compass
Unlocked all weapons yet?
warm ermine
dont forget cast builds also exist and are very good
brisk basin
yea still learning i believe i only had about 10 runs in the game for now still learning. my very bad runs was the bow man i suck with it the shield was ok but not that great for me
sinful compass
So you have the rail/gun unlocked?
brisk basin
i can buy it just need to get keys
brisk basin
yea i seen a few they work together right
sinful compass
Correct
Now, I'll give you a basic structure of a good duo boon build - it's called the Merciful End build
Using the sword, equip Ares's keepsake and hope that you get his boon on your attack. After you do that, keep your special and dash slots clear. You want both the dash and special slots to be Athena boons.
The duo is triggerd by the pairing of Athena attack +Ares special or Ares Attack + Athena Special
So after you get this duo boon, you'll want to get Athena's dash, and then all you do is dash+strike and win the game
brisk basin
ok thanks
quaint ginkgo
Is there a way to increase the odds of finding a legendary or duo boon, or is it totally rng dependent?
brazen cobalt
There’s a mirror upgrade that increases your odds 1% per level
It’s the 2nd or 3rd to last upgrade on the mirror iirc
brazen cobalt
ya, takes a lot of keys to get there
quaint ginkgo
What's the base chance of getting a legendary/duo boon?
brazen cobalt
not sure, but they require you to be holding certain boons to appear
you can see the required boons in the codex or on the wiki
quaint ginkgo
When people talk about poison builds with Dionysus, they mean hangover right?
quaint ginkgo
Ok thx
quaint ginkgo
Oops, sorry
hoary raft
Is Demeter's call like the best one
brazen cobalt
No
hoary raft
The thingies you throw are calls right
hoary raft
Yea that
hoary raft
It seems really strong
Maybe because i got it with the boon tbat makes it home better
brazen cobalt
if you mean the lazer beam, thats the worst one
that’s a cast
knotty rune
its dps is good, but it doesnt track enemies well, and misses them alot, is only active for a few seconds so you need to babysit it, and it doesnt lodge into enemies, which is 50% less attack power for you
with the duo boon though its pretty great
so 100% of the time you run that cast, you try to get that boon
you got pretty lucky
hoary raft
Neat
brazen cobalt
if you get the boon that makes it track you it’s fun
you can make it always hit the boss
dusty vault
||demeter|| boons are also spoiler
brazen cobalt
they’re ||pre-final boss|| though?
dusty vault
is once you reach the final boss once
knotty rune
or if you get lightning rod its up there too
brazen cobalt
oh
knotty rune
since you can deploy it fast anywhere
lavish summit
When I swap off of trinkets like Hermes' do I still keep the buff?
dusty vault
When I swap off of trinkets like Hermes' do I still keep the buff?
nope
thanatos, hermes, cerb keepsakes need to be equipped for the effects to keep applying
leaden whale
i got combined poseidon and war god attack and heroic ability of poseidon what i choose
😭
pale goblet
If you unequip Cerberus’s keepsake when you have say, 50 health, does it take from your total health without damaging you or does it just kill you
pale goblet
i got combined poseidon and war god attack and heroic ability of poseidon what i...
What is the specific boon that is heroic?
leaden whale
What is the specific boon that is heroic?
its the poseidon dash
knotty rune
youd probably be left at 1 hp
pale goblet
What’s the duo
knotty rune
if thats even possible
dusty vault
they posted in on #h1-victory-boasting
leaden whale
What is the specific boon that is heroic?
dms
dusty vault
you can copy the image link to upload to this channel
pale goblet
It was between Splash Dash, Curse of Drowning, and Razor Shoals
sinful compass
If you unequip Cerberus’s keepsake when you have say, 50 health, does it take fr...
It'll just deduct from total health
Splash dash is best
Curse of drowning is dubious
leaden whale
*on a melee weapon
fallen swallow
If I set ||pop|| to high number, do I earn extra titans blood? Or should I only try to increment by 1?
limber palm
dusty vault
If I set ||pop|| to high number, do I earn extra titans blood? Or should I only ...
Spoiler mark ||heat/pact of punishment|| but you dont gain extra blood
fallen swallow
Thanks, I edited it to ||pop|| as I dont know how to mark spoiler
sand river
spoiler is putting "||" on each side of the text like this:
||text|| = ||text||
or you can start your message with "/spoiler" and it will block out the whole post
ocean hedge
I'm having an issue finding the boon that reflects damage (shield) who gives it out?
there's the chance I'm just really unlucky too
chilly briar
athena
chilly briar
yes
chilly briar
the gold ship wheel type thing
ocean hedge
any tips for the elysium fight?
I have beaten it it just drains me of too much health
knotty rune
fight them 1 at a time starting with bull while you hide behind the pillars from spears
rush thesy down once he uses a call since hes wide open
chilly briar
try and stay behind them
knotty rune
against him bait the throw, then hide behind pillar, then dash in to hit his back, he always turns away from you after throwing
with bull definitely never stand in front of him
always behind or far away
then dash in after his slam, which is his 3rd attack
ocean hedge
yea I start with him first he just winds up sneaking in a smash past my shield and then I think I'm behind the pillar enough and get sniped
knotty rune
the throw is pretty consistent timing
so you can always dash right before as safety
but you need to be familiar with bull to focus on that
take all the skull rooms you can in elysium
1 of them lets you fight bull 1 on 1, and learn his patterns
which also weakens him before the boss fight
leaden whale
Does Eurydice's refreshing nectar upgrade your next boon choice or the next 3 times you need to pick a boon?
ocean hedge
I just battled and did better
I think I need to be more patient
with my attacks and take the fight slower
quick question || is there a way to predict where the satyr sack is like what door it's behind ||
ocean hedge
pain
knotty rune
Does Eurydice's refreshing nectar upgrade your next boon choice or the next 3 ti...
the next 3 boons all options will be atleast rare
even if you reroll
including hermes and chaos
so you want to be careful not to waste it by taking useless gods
ocean hedge
got the final boss half way. improving
ocean basalt
I've never had to go through all the doors to get the sack
But it does vary from second door to second-to-last door, depending on your random luck
sweet root
you can get a 5 sack
its just really rare
i looked up the odds for each outcome that someone simulated and its roughly:
2-sack : 56.8%, 3-sack : 30.4%, 4-sack : 11.2%, 5-sack : 1.6%
sweet root
its how many wings you have to go through to find the sack
there are 5 different doors
you cant find the sack behind the first door
hoary raft
Oh
sweet root
and the odds of finding the sack behind the 2nd/3rd/etc door you go into is the numbers above
obtuse fable
and the odds of finding the sack behind the 2nd/3rd/etc door you go into is the ...
Is the sack actually positioned behind one of the doors as soon as you enter the area, rather than it being randomly decided every time you enter one of the rooms whether that room has a sack or not, then?
sweet root
its randomly decided once you go through a door
obtuse fable
Ah I see.
So it is incredibly rare that you have to go through all doors to get a sack but technically possible.
sweet root
yes
pale goblet
So it is incredibly rare that you *have* to go through all doors to get a sack b...
On my last run I did actually have to do all 5 doors
obtuse fable
Oh wow
pale goblet
Didn’t even have my bow so it took forever
wooden salmon
Yoooo lets go I finally beat the final boss and finished a run!