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That too. Might be easier with the shield (to block the missile barrages), or Athena attack or dash to deflect the pink waves
Athena dash is great for survival 🦉
im also guessing titan blood is good even tho idk what its used for yet so im beating meg for the third time with the blade
It's very useful. You'll find what it does as you unlock the other weapons
I'd suggest you to find it while playing, but if you wish to know, it ||powers up the weapons and alters their playstyle a bit||
i didnt click that
It's better that way IMO
Every currency you find has some use, naturally (obols, darkness, gems, nectar) and the bounties too (blood, diamonds)
also i find it fun to set nohit goals for myself
Some people set speed goals, but no-hit is fun too. The game can be played in a lot of ways
i dont like speed goals because not having time pressure makes me play better
i make exceptions in these goals bc of the minibosses or whatever and the actual bosses
For the missile barrage, you can either just (1) stand behind a pillar or (2) dash directly behind the head.
You'll learn the patterns of the bosses...but clearing them without hits is a different beast
wait thats a thing oh cool
Setting challenges for yourself is good. Just don't forget to have fun while you do that 
yeah obviously im not gonna force myself to be the best
Even if you totally screw up a run in Tartarus, there's something you can learn from the run.
(Lady) Athena is very supportive, and her boons are great for early runs. I showed my appreciation early, and you could do the same too
indeed, and also is it more worth to prioritize keys or darkness
She's not the only shade/god/godess helping you, of course. But do consider her
Keys v darkness depend on what you're on the verge of unlocking I'd say.
How many rows of the Mirror have you unlocked?
i was thinking doom from aries is super good dps so i was thinking athena and aries
Something general to keep in mind for any projectile enemies is that circling them is usually best to avoid their attacks... and in Tartarus where the Witches like to spread out and surround you, staying close to the walls means you can't be fired on from all directions.
As for builds, there's a newie build guide by me in the pins here that can serve as a starting point to get you at least some decent damage.

One time Lernie was dealing so much damage I felt like giving up would save me a few seconds and I didn't want to see Zag die.
So I gave up. I didn't read the message.
300 (?) darkness down the drain 
But the lesson here is that every run can teach you something
If that happens and you haven't started a new run yet, there's a way to still recover your save in #h1-tech-fixes.
i wasnt expecting this much information but thank you!
(And also don't give up if you want to keep your rewards, but get as far as you can. Once you return to the House you'll be able to spend your rewards)
Thanks NyaanNyaanyaa. Like 6 months too late, but I'll keep this in mind. Also won't griefquit (despairquit?) anymore
The nice thing about Hades is that dying never feels like a waste or a loss because you get to upgrade your mirror or progress the story with different characters and things like that.
The only person who can call me Nyaan is Lady Aphrodite. 
As many chances as it takes
That's a great mantra. Should be on a shirt design or something
and you can get a new set of boons
At least until you've finished all of the story with every character and unlocked all the upgrades and everything... then, death is just death. 
im in tartarus rn but im pretty sure the default ones + another one
You can still try a new build and figure out if it's half decent 
Rule of thumb is Darkness > Keys. You'll run out of use for Keys waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before you run out of use for Darkness.
Death Defiances and Greater Reflex are great for durability. But NM has a better call on this
I haven't had use for Keys in like 900 hours or something? Probably more? I still have use for Darkness.
Keys are just gonna be something you trade up for Nectar and then eventually Nectar for other things.
With the exception of having a nice stash of darkness but being only a few keys away from unlocking a new Mirror row or wep, ofc
And sometimes you can trade in 15 Keys for 1 Titan Blood.
also im guessing give 1 nectar to all the gods?
Always a good idea to keep at least 15 Keys just for that.
That's another lesson, I came so close to have a Blood one time. But you'll find what it does
No, you have to give all of your Nectar to Lady Aphrodite.
All of it.
ig i failed then
This is a very good idea. Zag is thankful for their help, and you (the player) gain benefits from doing so
Yeah that means you gotta make up for it by giving at least 20 to Lady Aphrodite + all the other Nectar you find.
So just all of it.
I'd say that's a good idea. Just keep in mind there's more than one reason to give nectar to Aphrodite
okay then
we dont stan aphrodite here
And then you have to start every run with the
.
Careful, mister. You're talking to the high priestess of the Temple of Aphrodite.
also what does giving nectar to anyone in the house of hades reward you
im the son of aries
Ares, not aries 
They give you a keepsake generally the first time you gift anyone Nectar.
thats how its spelt in my book
Ah nvm
After that, it's mainly just to progress story. Like, gifting Nectar is mainly for the sake of gifting Nectar to anyone you like rather than any gamey rewards.
That doesn't mean you might not get rewards later down the line potentially from certain characters.
There's another role-play component with the keepsakes. I felt lots of support from Nyx, so I did many runs with her keepsake. You can push yourself with a certain keepsake you like all the way.
Do note there's better keepsakes than others, but this is another way you can play the game
Well, I dunno. Maybe not with that attitude. 
what does it mean when you give someone nectar and it says +1 heart
i like |||mother's|| keepsake
It means you've increased your affinity with the character.
You're deepening your relationship with them. It's the one of the VN aspects of Hades 
not nyx
lmao
Welp. This was off topic in that case
also if i already know what playstyle i feel like sticking with could i invest in mirror instead
That was definitely not the message to post in this channel lol.
So circling back to this, this is a lively channel. Feel free to come by with any beginner question you might have 
alr im gonna do a few runs and see where it takes me :>
You mean invest keys in the mirror instead of weapon unlocks?
i think it is. sorry for that
id say unlock weapons first, thats what i did but idk
so you focus on the top row of the mirror first
Get whichever one is cheaper at the time, I guess.
isnt the first mirror unlock like 10 keys?
First two are 5 and 10. Then 20
If the game feels stale at some point you can save up for a weapon instead. Gets you the most fun at least
Unlocking the last weapon will unlock more than just that.
ah
Ehehe. That's true 
When they added the Twin Fists in Early Access, I didn't play any other weapon for months lol.
athena’s dash gives me dead cell vibes with the deflecting
Aphrodite's dash is great on fists. Poseidon's on ranged weps. Artemis' on melee.
There's so much variety in builds 
geeze
You've plenty of content and fun ahead of you 
i tried remapping my dash button so i can play less agressive and it instead got me killed more
lol woops.
If you play on KBM, I can say I play with default and had no major issues with that.
On controller, some builds benefit from remapping, but for now I think default is better for you
I knew Aries sounded familiar
then why are they pronounced the same
does that matter?
there are so many words that are pronounced the same but mean different things
kind of yeah
im gonna keep calling the god aries either way so
🥴
There's no more guaranteed titan blood after the first wins against the fries with each weapon early on, huh?
Right. You only get the Titan Blood from the Furies the first time.
ares
Imho Zeus
Guys ive killed the first and second boss with all weapons. And killed third with sword. Got 6 titans blood, which one should i upgrade with them. Are all good? Any recommendations?
Ask #h1-builds-and-combat for better specifications
But I think nemesis is good for you if you like sword
Alright i will and thank you!
Hello, I fought final boss on my last run but I still don't know what to do with my Titan blood
I didn't buy the last weapon on that run
final boss is a spoiler
can you spoiler tag it?
buy the last weapon and fight the final boss again iirc
you just have to finish a run to unlock weapon aspects
you dont need to fight the final boss
just unlock all weapons first
Okay, then I'll try a run now with all weapons unlocked!
this makes me wanna just unlock all the weapons before mirror but i think they’re the same price for me
is there a pinned message for mirror upgrades?
no but you should watch this video
*Slight addendum to Golden Touch: I've seen some interesting comments around taking this over Deep Pockets so that you can save enough gold in a run to afford the meta currency in the Styx shop which is actually an amazing idea when you're still hard up on Titan's Blood and Diamonds!
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alright thank you
Has anyone got any tips for boons and how to know which one is the best
Each weapon has 2 kinds of attack, normal and special
On attacks that are slow and hit hard, you want boons that give you increased % damage
On attacks that are fast and hit small, you want boons that give you "flat damage"
Zeus is flat damage because the lightning does the same amount of damage no matter how hard your weapon hits
Same with dionysus
Aphrodite will give you the most % increase in damage
This is just a rule of thumb, but it should help you through the early game
was progressing in ||elysium|| for the third time and didnt even realize i got to the boss (which ive never fought before) any tips for it?
Focus down Asterius first, don't get Theseus below half health before that
when Theseus preps his Spear throw, there will be cross hairs on Zag that turn red before he actually throws it. Either run in circles or put a pillar between Zag and him
can athena’s dash deflect the spear?
I think so
i died instantly bc i was at 38 hp lmao
F.
asterius hit me for like 18 with his axe then theseus hit me with his spear for 20
Hallo
Help me I am really struggling to get pass the 2nd stage (that is the Lava region)
so uhh i was wondering what i should prioritize first, keys or darkness? and i think keys because i can unlock all the things with keys and then use my darkness for the things such as mirror or whatever
i got a dio/athena duo boon should i take it?
im in asphodel right after the barge of death
The third region ||Elysium|| will be raining with bullets, personally, I will just dodge them all, but if you aren’t that good with dodging or didn’t have much experience in the third region yet, it’s a good boon to have
whats it do?
Calculated Risk
ah well i suck with dodging so
Slower enemy projectiles
theres also athena’s call or the deflect does more damage
it turns ||theseus||into an actual joke
and sense you have the athena dash it will make things easier to deflect
Yes while dashing. I manage to reach the medusa thingy but I always get killed by that the jumping rock. Lol sorry for being this vague
I know the miniboss you mean
if you have the second dash from the mirror, the trick i use for lava is to always save my last dash for getting out of lava
What's the best boons for the rifle? Dionysus?
zeus is the best i think, but dio is pretty good too
Why doesn’t my ares lock unlock smh
Also, is the poseidon lock rng? I caught 18 fish, then talked to poseidon after catching a fish in the run, still the heart didnt unlock
What about demeter?
The last and most difficult to unlock of all the weapons in Hades is the Adamant Rail. Also known as Exagryph, this was once wielded by the goddess Hestia in the fight against the Titans. And now, it will help Zagreus escape from the underworld! If you can figure out how to use it properly.
On a personal level, the Adamant Rail was the hardest ...
this guy has two of em, both look pretty neat. are they any good?
i havent read it, but usually online guides r not that good
feel free to ask here instead for help
cool
for the rail, %dmg boons arent that good (which includes demeter), and flat dmg boons like zeus and dio are better
np
Try asking help in #h1-tech-support
I can't freaken beat this game
I need at least 3 death defiance to get past the the third world boss
Best aspect for sheild?
Just need to keep trying man
If you can already get to third boss, that’s pretty good already
i feel like my special is so weak in comparison to bull rush and attack on shield
Zeus for me
Try to separate the bull from theseus, watch for the crosshair , that means Theseus will throw his spear and when it starts fickering dodge straight away, the bull's attavk should be easy to dodge
What weapon are you using?
Either hidden aspect or Zeus
and for boons? I'm having a lot of success with doom, cant get the multiple procs for the blades for some reason
you can also put the pillars in between you and theseus to block the spear
also that mirror ability which gives you a revive, the green version of it gives per chamber. Does that mean every world (tartrus and then the lava lake and elysium) or every encounter?
every encounter
stubborn defiance is one dd that refreshes every encounter so if u die in that encounter u will get it back the next encounter
wow that's kinda awesome
if you like doom try pairing it with athena dashes to get the merciful end duo
any ability that deflects instantly activates doom
i got the deflect dash, never got merciful end until now
You need to have the special
because you need deflect on special too
what shield aspect?
Since for duo boons you need to have a base boon for unlocking the duo boon
im not running any rn i burnt all the aspect money on railgun which i developed a distaste for in a few hours
ahh
yeah bad decision 😦
For higher chance to get duo or legendary get God's legaxy
is that a aspect or a keepsake or a boon?
its a mirror upgrade
Mirror upgrade
ah
For rail gun what aspect did you unlock?
Cus if you did eris, maybe your just getting the wrong boons, cus that thing is fast and strong lmao
yeah eris is mega cracked
I've fought the final boss a couple of times, but I'm already on my 45th attempt
Oh wait nvm, its probably low leveled, even then low level eris is still decent
That's normal, it varies for each person
I have Athena's aid epic, and I could sell that to get a death defiance rn. Idk if it's worth it
the first one because i trusted some stupid online guide, it said that it would stack the party god's attack hangover thing, but the idiot writing the article didnt know it limits to 5 stacks per enemy so it makes no sense to double the ammo
How many dd's do you have left?
to add to the damage, the second aspect scales the damage of the hangover if i am correct so that means i was missing out on even more
and what stage are you at
and isnt zues better overall
Ah zag, yeah its bad haha, and just for reference online guides are usually bad for most cases
zeus is probably the best for eris
Definitely
That’s not too bad tbh, you can buff it up with Ares-Dio and Aphrodite-Dio duo boons
Aphro also works for eris
yeah another person told me a while back
im not following them anymore id rather just ask questions here
Hangover works best on fast weapon and nothing is faster than the rail
Hmm true
As in, fastest attack speed
Maybe you can do a hangover build like what nero said
rail also has low base dmg and hangover/lightning scales better with those types of weapons
Yes
^
yeah but the first aspect is pretty useless for a hangover build right
isnt the second one better due to damage scaling for that 75 percent
or am i wrong
It doesn't matter, cus the atk speed is still fhe same with other aspects
yeah
Thats when its maxed leveled and u nees 16 titan blood for it i think
Think of it as a DoT build rather than a damage build
yeah i tried it for a few hours and i kinda sucked with it
i died at the first boss so many times
with sheild first boss was a breeze
doesnt matter which sister
15 titan blood to max out eris
Yeah, probably need good dodging skills too lol
Oh yeah 15 for the second one
hangover on bow hidden aspect is pretty neat
how do you get titan blood btw?
kill meg and the final boss with a weapon you haven't done so with
Beating the first boss and final boss with eaxh weapon, you can get more once you finish the game once
So per weapon you get 2 per run
trade for it at the wretched broker in the lounge
buy it from charon at the temple of styx
Yep you xan also do that
Also, some of the prophecies give you bloods as well for rewards
cool
probably will do that, havent enjoyed any other weapon as much as the shield
And if ur Lucky || fishing || at the final boss area or || greece || can give u titan blood if u get a || pefect catch ||
get ready to save up 1200 coin during the run
also what's the reward for the quests when we give a bunch of nectar to a specific god?
is it just lore?
oof
okay, thanks
Is there anything from the contractor that affects gameplay except for the work orders section?
I don't think so
Some upgrades trigger certain dialogues
Some also have minor uses, like telling you the number of runs you’ve done and enemies you’ve killed, number of fish you’ve fished, number of fountains you’ve used and zooming out the house and so. But nothing like the work orders
Wait how do you tell the number of fish and fountains
you can buy an aquarium that tells you how many fish youve caught
and you can buy some fountains that tell you how many fountains youve used
How do you know what God you still have to give keepsakes too
how to keep track of which ones whose keepsakes you have? you can check if they have any hearts in the codex to see who you've given nectar to, or check in the keepsakes box (??idr the name for it) to see which ones you already have
Thank you g
so uhh i was stuck on ||asterius and theseus|| first but i somehow did that and ||styx temple|| so any tips for fighting ||hades||?
um perhaps ask it in #h1-discussion ? ive got some strategy but i dunno if we can talk about it here
sure
hey, so i encountered thanatos for the first time in elysium, but died during the challenge. does that still count for unlocking the chance of him showing up anywhere? or do i have to redo it and not die for that to start happening?
Yes I think so
after i started encountering him in elysium I've been seeing him all over
I read the question wrong
I died in my first Than encounter and he didn't show up in my codex until I saw him again in elysium, so I think you'll need to encounter him again in elysium
Oh
Yeah, I mean I'm not 100% sure since I've only had that experience on one save file and I haven't heard anyone else talk about it, but that's how it went for me
Triple bomb on the adamant rail is OP
added on Special Inflicts doom from Hades and Special is faster from Hermes and omg
I remember my first time getting Triple Bomb on Exagryph, I think I got my first clear. I did have a load of fun with it, and it is pretty powerful with some boon upgrades.
is Rocket Bomb a good hammer upgrade to this triple bomb?
Rocket Bomb is good in general, but adding it to Triple Bomb or Cluster Bomb is even better.
adamant rail is just great in general imo. at this point im consistently getting past the furies and haven't died to hyda once yet
Adamant Rail is really good, yeah. When paired with certain upgrades, it really is something else.
granted, i havent died to hydra with any weapon yet. he's easy, but tedious af
bone hydra counts as a miniboss?
No
finally encountered daddy than again
and completed the contest this time without dying
Omg rev u play hades?
Also just check the codex for it
LMAO whats up hyper, yeah i just got it 3 days ago and its amazing
so can you tell prior to entering a room if it'll be a thanatos encounter?
No, you can't. As far as I know, it's randomized luck.
Just like the Hades time trial rooms, they're just random.
it is, gl reaching the final boss
i beat meg after 12 attempts, i think thats bad but its hard. it just gets easier and easier every run so i think im doing it right
nah that aint
Me on my 46th attempt
oh damn
im so sorry
just use the spear its op imo
and focus on darkness upgrades
how far have you gone?
skelly and cerberus is a lot of help if you are new or not that good
is there a way to see how far you've gone with each weapon?
Once you beat the final boss at least once you'll be able to, but until that you'll just have to keep track on a post-it note or somethin
is there an incentive to keep choosing the same god or should I get a variety?
for the boons I mean
It will show u the incentive when there is one but u can just choose the ones u like otherwise
And I think the mirror has an option where u get more power if u have more different gods' boons but that's optical
Optional
I see because the closest I've gotten to winning was with a Boon that turned my cast to a bayblade duo'd with chill. But I've gotten far with just Artemis' aids, so thank you!
this game is gonna break the q and space keys as well as my mouse buttons
can't wait
I've actually broken one controller from wearing out one of the joysticks. Just playing constantly.
only flaw I've found is using q when trying to move -and- dash with w or a
my fingers aren't built for such high level mechanics
but that's something I'll get used to as I learn
only started playing yesterday ^^
I have a friend who had to play on keyboard, and from what I've heard it is very unfortunate. If you can, try to get a controller to hook up to your PC. It makes the game much easier.
Just play with whatever you like
play with what makes u fele comfortable
i use controller for some weapons and kbm for some
ah man, i coulda been playing with a controller this whole time. but now ive gotten so used to keyboard lol
You can play either way, it was just a suggestion.
time to learn controller for the theseus fight im about to walk into lmao
As someone who's played both, I personally prefer controller, but you can play well with either. Pretty much down to preference, but I've heard more people tend to prefer controller.
I have a controller, but my ability to aim on top-down style games is nonexistant, even with aim assist
:(
The POV took some getting used to for me, but I got the hang of it after a few hours.
it is weird not being able to move and shoot at the same time. unless im doing it wrong
oh wait i never could
im delusional
which aspect for spear is best early game (am very new, haven't unlocked anything really except access to aspects)
I dont know the exact scaling rn but achilles is the best spear
is it weird that the bow is the one im worst at?
nah ppl all have their own preferences n skill sets
bow is distance + holding down the attack button n that doesn't suit everyone
nah, I suck at the bow
No because I’m also trash at the bow.
woo, beat theseus and minotaur for the first time. took a death defiance and spamming an upgraded rail special, but i got there
rail special builds... my beloved
i had the one that makes it huge and powerful but can hurt me
i instinctively get out of the circle even when it can't hurt me out of habit from other games, so the downside for that upgrade doesn't affect me much
i just feel bad for him
i think he's wonderful
I think he's a character that you just hate at first, but grow to love him.
I anticipated his bond forge the most, and was ecstatic over it when I did.
he was my first fav 😔 ✌️ i just always thought he was so funny
I love his comments, and I love his advice.
i wish he was still as sleepy after bonding cuz his lil napping animation is so sweet
Not as sleepy, but you can still catch it sometimes.
Nope not at all. I struggle with the bow a lot also, it’s a very different weapon from the other 5
its the most fun tho
I just picked up Flurry Shot for the bow and I just hold attack and it goes
okay that flurry shot on the bow mix with Support Fire from Artemis
im trying hades with inverted colors for memes
does boiling blood stack with multiple charges on someone?
no
can i remove one bone of mines?
?
._.
what is that
im so tempted to make a mom joke
no please do not remove your bones from your body
so sad

lol
what does boiling blood do again? i know its bad but like what are the specifics
the boiling blood from your mirror makes enemies take 50% extra attack and special damage, ||boiling blood from hades makes you take 100% extra damage from hades||
no like the ||hades|| attack
i just told you
oh im dumb
bruh

how does hangover from different sources work?
both my attack and special apply, but at different damage amounts
if I apply one stack with my attack, but then 5 stacks with my special, how does it calculate the dps?
Same question also, but with doom
the dps from the most recent hit applies
so if I attack, and then special, it'll only do the dps of the special?
Doom doesn't stack. If you apply Doom, you can't overwrite it.
As for Hangover, new Hangover stacks will overwrite the oldest stack.
so I should always use doom with whichever is stronger, if I have the option and multiple sources?
oh! So each hangover stack is independent?
Right. And ideally, not get multiple sources of Doom in the first place.
Yes.
but with doom, only the first one's damage is applied?
Right.
I appreciate the help~ <3
I kind of wish this cord had a video/voice chat room where I could stream my game and someone could watch and offer suggestions
I'm about to fight the final boss and I have 450 coins to use and im curious if i should spend it on a zeus buff, an anvil that removes a hammer but gives me 2 hammers or a pom
Or I can do one last corridor and try to get some more coins and then determine from there and get 2 of those shop pickups
yeah
pom or zeus
if you already have good daedalus boons you should not take the risk
for 2 more daedalus boons
Doing more tunnels is generally a bad idea if you just want to win that run.
I havent won yet
I thought I won a few hours ago and then spoiler (i guess) and then i died
If you stream to Twitch and share the link in #self-promotion, I can hop in in a bit. Just gonna be making dinner for awhile.
sorry i dont have all that setup at the moment im not sure my pc/connection could handle it
can someone explain what that is, exactly?
-what- rewards? I don't recognise the symbol :C
gold laurel rewards (aka run only currency: heart, boons, etc)
oh!
but that means it would take away chance for other rewards, yeah?
the gems/purple stuff
yup
I picked up a chaos boon that makes there be 50% more enemies and now im about to fight a fury - will there be 2 bosses?
triple bomb on the rail gun means just spamming Q
is there a faster way to earn darkness besides refighting bosses and buying and getting it from encounters?
fighting bosses is the main way
also, any specific god/duo boon suggestions for the gun
as a newer player just finding out about the duo boon with Athena and spoiler where it heals over time im loving that
zeus attack, poseidon dash, aphro/artemis on special for gun
||demeter is a spoiler in this channel||
should i use poms on attack or special
dash
poseidon dash scales well with poms
Put most of your poms into your dash, special, and jolted
does it matter what cast?
No.
and any other god i should focus on after i get said boons?
No one in particular.
im gonna use poseidon bc call and uhh sunken treasure
Well, you should get his Dash first and foremost if you haven't yet, then get t2 boons like Breaking Wave, Razor Shoals, etc.
The core of the build is Lightning Strike, Tidal Dash, Static Discharge, any decent % boon on Special, and any t2 boons for your Dash.
Plus all the poms on Tidal Dash and one or two on Static Discharge, maybe one or two on Special.
since i got tidal dash later i had to put 3 into special
An early pom or two in Lightning Strike if you have nothing else yet is fine, too. But Lightning Strike poms aren't very important at all.
wait which one should i prioritize first i got lightning strike first with zeus’s keepsake, though i guess it doesnt matter
Yeah, Thunder Signet first, Conch Shell in Asphodel.
uhh so idk if this is a good thing but i got 2 duo boons in one aphro boon
Nice
im guessing the poseidon aphro one because poms = more dps?
Better to have a hard choice between good options, than a hard choice between bad options
What's the other duo
aphro athena
Oh yeah the pom one will probably do more for you
Take the poseidon one
Bro don’t worry it took my dad like 66 tries to beat Hades
Well, they gave you a speedrun build. If you're not making the most of that, there are easier builds to clear the game with.
i mean tbh i just need to practice its simply just my lack of time into the game builds can help me but true skill is with time
i only have like 15 hours
You might have more success just taking Lightning Strike into Divine Dash.
that gives me a reason to use the thunder signet and level it up so
good to know im using a speedrun build tho
if I find a Daedalus in a shop but can't afford it, will it count toward the 2 I can get that run?
No
tyty
It in fact does iirc, similar to finding a hermes boon in the shop (pre styx)
oh
:(
can someone explain the difference between adding rarity to a boon against adding levels to one?
am smol brain D:
Rarity is the base power, and levels add to the base power. So if you increase the rarity, the base damage/effect will be stronger, where as leveling just adds to the base, if that makes sense.
so does leveling up a higher rarity item make each level -better-?
Yeah, it does.
tyty <3
You're welcome!
fml, i forgot i left a session in the middle of my first time at the temple of styx. my brain isn't prepared for this 12 hours later
died to ||hades||, but glad i got through my first run of temple of styx
|| hades || is spoilers please tag it
You can spoiler tag by putting || on each side of what you want to spoiler tag.
||Like this||
ok, thanks
There's a "1st Lord Hermes boon" and a "2nd Lord Hermes boon" that are in the pool of gold laurel rewards that can appear. The 1st will be added back to the pool until you pick it up. The 2nd can only appear when you already picked up the 1st, and the 2nd will then be added back to the pool until you pick it up.
So, skipping the 1st or 2nd in a shop doesn't remove it. It will be added back to the pool and can show up again. But if you skip the 1st too often, you might never see the 2nd.
hello, is there a way to stop my mouse from going to a portion of my second monitor?
There should be a mouse lock toggle in settings.
could you example one? i like the ||adamant rail|| and ||twin fists||
otherwise ill just use the build they provided
When using Aphrodite's call during a boss fight, is it better to use it against the boss itself or one of it's minions?
yo i have almost 3 hours in hades and i cant even beat Tartarus yet and i have never reached boss... help
athena is a good goddess
divine dash and just deflecting overall
against the boss because it makes them stop attacking
Cool thanks
Should I go with Crystal beam as my cast? I have the sword right now and I need something that will be good going up against Hades
what biome are u in?
Asphodel
is there something that tells you your affinity with people? or do i just have to remember how many nectars i've given people?
Press c for your codex
When do you get to talk to bouldy?
if you gift him you get a random buff
how do you do that?
Giving Bouldy nectar gives you a buff.
It triggers after you talk to Sisyphus enough.
how long does it take?
Not sure, it's really just a random line, I think.
took me around 5h to reach boss 1, you'll get better with time. If you haven't already, buy the double dash upgrade and death defiance from the mirror, and give nectar to Skelly (or Cerberus) to get his keepsake
and gradually spend darkness and keys on the mirror
Okay
~15hrs in and finally Escaped Elysium, then swiftly got my rear handed to me. I love this game!
yes indeed
It's not.
wait so what is considered spoilers here
Just anything from when you meet the final boss for the first time and after is spoilers.
Check channel description.
okay
(No Spoilers - End Boss Onward)
alr good to know
you should save up for death defiance in the mirror tbh, and use the keepsake from giving nectar to pup
most of this game comes down to your own experience and familiarity with the enemy and boss movesets, and the boons you get are just random each time
so thats the main thing you can do to make a tangible early difference
i just got my third death defiance in that last run
its nice
hm
greater reflex helps alot with movement too
you cant really grind it tbh, you just pick it up when you see it
should i spend the chronic keys on weapons?
but i would rec using the bow, leveling up the mirror, and using the pup keepsake, which doubles you hp at max rank
for sure tbh
I used bow once and i suck at aiming with it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it's up to preference if you want to expand the mirror or get more weapons
Okay will try
I'd recommend the weapons but it's up to you
you can use keys to unlock weapons or more options in the mirror, but those new options really arent that amazing, and you want to spend darkness on the early ones first
and pretty much every weapon id say
is easier to use than the default sword
idk if theres really a "best weapon" or anything since they all have so many builds
but definitely easier
aight thanks for tips
tbh maybe the shield would be best
i have the shield

youre pretty much 100% invincible if you just sit in the corner blocking
and can wait for the perfect chance to strike
so thats the safest way to clear the first floor
its fun stuff. ill probs do a shield run next
hi
Hi! Got out of Elysium and almost beat ||Hades|| today. Half excited, half frustrated.
||hades|| is spoilers so tag it please haha, but congrats
Oh. You're right I'm so sorry. I didn't realize.
guys any pointers on playing faster with controller? my time is usually 14-24 minutes consistently on K&M, but never got below 20 with controller (try a fresh file, i'm on like 7 heat rn)
isnt it easier with the controller
ikr i'm confused too lol
i like it better too, and i feel like i'm playing better but i'm slowww

hey guys whats the difference between directx, vulkan, and 32 bit?
i think its just that directx is just windows and vulkan is every platform
does it like affect performance?
oh okay thanks anyways
On some systems, Vulkan can run better if you have problems with DirectX. But if you don't have any issues with DirectX, just use that.
Man, dunkings I will never forget:
Finally getting past Meg for the first time with the barest sliver of health left, being blown away by the wildly different new biome in Asphodel...and then slipping off the skull raft/dock as I tried to embark and immediately dying.
And then getting snarked at by Hypnos when I crawled pathetically out of the river. "Have you tried not standing in lava?" Thanks, Hypnos.
dont worry youll get consistent at meg, and then her sisters will be more diffucult then youll get consistent at them
17 hours and every run i at least make to the third boss
But have you? 
Yeah, I've gotten there by now! 🤣
This was like twenty runs ago but I still think of it every time I carefully step onto a raft 😅
Constant Vigilance
i just dash to the raft while spamming E
health become trivialized once breaking pots become a viable strategy
I have a question, whats usually the priority for what to use poms of power on?
(1) Cast if you're doing a Cast build,
(2) Tidal Dash if you have Tidal Dash,
(3) Static Discharge (to Lv.2-3) if you have Lightning Strike or Thunder Flourish as a primary source of damage,
(4) Hunter's Mark in a crit build,
(5) Curse of Agony/Pain and Impending Doom in Doom builds,
(6) Call if you have Smoldering Air,
(7) Poms on Heartbreak Strike/Flourish always scale well up to like Lv.5ish.
Tyty
hangover benefits from poms a lot right?
Oh yeah.
If you're doing a Hangover build, all your poms go on that and a couple on Bad Influence.
You generally only want one source of Hangover if you go for that.
does anyone know when i unlock the codex?
It varies. There's always some RNG with the dialogue trees.
Every save is unique in ways like that.
also, for the adamant rail build from earlier does it matter what aspect i was thinking aspect of zagreus since it gives more ammo
dont have blood atm
which build
this one
Just to be clear, any high % Special is fine. You're looking for Lightning Strike > Tidal Dash > Static Discharge and any decent % Special.... except Tempest Flourish, really, because the knockback can be annoying on that.
Eris is the most broken weapon aspect in the game.
The bonus damage is global.
It's essentially just a way better Zag Rail.
You can play Hestia like base rail, but normally you want it to be a high level and get a high % damage on Attack... so either Heartbreak Strike or Deadly Strike.
Hidden rail has a lot of build variety, but Lightning Strike > Tidal Dash etc. is still one of the best builds on that.
i dont like hidden rail much because ||it doesnt cancel enemy projectile||
Get Divine Flourish on it and you won't be missing that.
neat
it must be my least played aspect if we exclude spear
actually this is completely false
i dont play a lot of aspects
i hate the new ||exodia hands in tartarus|| that have been haunting me since fighting ||hades||
Basic codex or codex upgrade? Because you’re supposed to unlock basic codex very early on by talking to achilles
once i get some more blood ill invest in it
this boon that turns my dropped cast bloodstones into lightning summoning badasses coming in clutch against theseus and mino
If you’re many runs into the game and don’t have the codex, try messaging about it in #h1-tech-support
both of my theseus and mino victories have been due to spamming or exploiting lmao. the first one, i spammed hazard bomb. and on this one, i kept my lightning rod bloodstones out the whole match and just kited them around the bloodstones
one of mine was a speedrun build that was kinda op, and the other was just pure rng
right as i saw this achilles appeared and gave it to me
i got ares doom effect on special and then athena on attack but didnt get merciful end, what did i do wrong
omg the ||demeter|| cast effect is beautiful
Decent strat to deal with them is to either wait until they start charging dodge to the side and wale on them, or just hit them from a distance with bloodstones or a ranged attack if your weapon has one
That it is
Just wait until you get some duo boons that boost it lmao
can just be bad rng. if you have Gods' Legacy mirror upgrade that'll help
You did nothing wrong, ME is super hard to get consistently because athena is big meanie
is it based on them giving you the duo boon? not getting both and it transforms into duo boon?
Yep
they gotta give u the duo boon, yes'
alr
how the hell to people deal with the minotaur with the close range weapons?
stay behind him
they just do
plus the stygian sword special exists
You can dash through him when he's swinging and pretty much avoid em
Think of it as a turn-based fight. Empty-dash when he attacks, then attack him when he's recovering from his attacks, then evade again.
Same goes for all the bosses, really.
i find so odd the diffuculty of the 3 fury sisters, meg is free every time, alecto is twice has hard and tsiphone is 3 times as hard
first boss is is nothing when its meg
switch tisiphone and alecto for me
alecto is almost always the one where i end up having low health after i beat her
tisiphone is easiest for me, alecto is hardest
i like the small arena you get with tis
i have a question, when you charge varatha, and you have the attack boon from zeus, does that trigger a chain lighting on each enemy i hit?
do yall prefer killing theseus or the minotaur first?
minotaur
theseus's second phase is harder to dodge so yeah minotaur
Minotaur
my rng is terrible i got not 1, not 2, but 3 poseidon boons and didnt get dash
||em3 is a spoiler||
any tips for getting more titan blood after the 6 you get from the weapons?
Beat the final boss is the big one
But until you get there, you can try saving up all your money for the final biome, where titan blood can be sold
ohh makes sense
Or crushing up all your remaining keys into nectar once you unlock the whole mirror
also on my artemis build i got an epic pressure points should i invest poms into that or attack
nvm
what is the use of ambroisa
Ambrosia is used later on to finish bond routes with characters, or to upgrade companions.
You can get it from the House or the Champions fight.
I like to think she's going easier on me these days for personal reasons. 🥰
She's softening! Right? .....right? 🥲
😐
i think this is the run

my 12th, 200 hp, 3 death defiances
triple dash with athena deflect
bow build with the rapid fire hammer mod, and huge crit rate
20% damage evade from hermes
call of athena
at the start of styx now
Good luck!
good luck x 2 
gl!!
You got this!!
thats enough darkness to max out the whole mirror
up to 20 keys atleast
and can unlock the final weapon too
😔 i have graduated #h1-for-new-players
dayum, i think i'm in the 30s and have only reached the final boss. never beaten him yet
came real close once tho
im pretty used to bullet hell games and dark souls style combat so 12 runs probably isnt the norm at all
its a really hard game
my first time beating the hydra is probably the most impressive feeling thing ive done since finishing sekiro tbh
you should be pretty close
just have to snag those last death defiances
actually i probably give myself too much credit that build was pretty busted
making a busted build takes skill too
skill at movement, hitting enemy, dodging is micro, making a build is macro
both important, and if you have one you can account for not having the other
i used athena and artemis keepsakes to get crits and shield dodge in the first 2 floors
so i suppose it was the build i was aiming for
got lucky to see double hermes though
im starting to get a sense for what gods do what and what boons you want to see
getting 2 good hermes boons is much harder tho
its basically a fact
tbh 😔 what bad hermes boons
not to mention his epics are just the same thing as normal but better stats
??? that's every boon
attack speed and the extra dodge are pretty common
oh is it
only legendary is unique then
yeah
i was wondering that
most hermes boons are useless to me but i only want 3 of his boons LOL
if ||eurydice || upgraded by boons the effect might be worse
wdym?
well thinking that higher rarity had different effects
i let her upgrade 2 random ones that last time
3 more damage on my athena dash

because athena dash doesnt have good rarity scaling
gonna pick the 3rd option from her 24/7 now probably
not only 3 instead of 2, but you can pick which ones
can she upgrade a heroic into a legendary to change the effect then?
can you tell what rarity a boon will be just from looking at it
sometimes it seems brighter than normal
boon ballon?
oh nah
u cant tell the rarity of a boon before actually selecting and opening the boon ballon
i see like alittle bit of blue mixed into athenas yellow
and think ahh it must be a rare
nah
Hi, I joined this server because I have doubts about the game;
my question is how can i give ambrosia to the gods?
because i got all the hearts but only 2 gods accepted the ambrosia :,,v
sorry for my english, it's not my mother tongue.
You need to complete their favor (aka the lock 🔐 ) to gift them ambrosia
How do I do that?
Thank you

what should i do*
awesome stuff, you won't miss out on anything
however please spoiler tag the identity of the final boss as that's spoilers in this channel @granite linden 
omg i didn’t know that sorry
Aggy that's charon on your pic right?
it is, more specifically the pokemon Aron in a Charon cosplay 

Are you talking about your loadout for the run on the left hand side of the screen? If so, then look at the upper right side of the diamond representing the boon; if there's a coloured line (blue, purple, orange) that represents the rarity of the boon.
does the favor of the boatman do anything?
what is the best way to get titan blood
after youve beaten the first boss with all the weapon
note: i am rlly bad
||the pact of punishment|| is going to be your main source of titan blood after the final boss. you can also save up to buy it in Styx, it's sometimes available for 1200 obol, or you can trade up using nectar and diamonds at the House
what is ||the pact of punishment||
*after the final boss sorry not the first boss
i misread but you have to clear that to start getting it at a decent rate
pre- final boss it's slow going for the blood
it's rlly hard to get to the final boss since ym laptop can barely run hades
so on the second area (fgorgot the name) it's stuck on like 30fps
with lagspikes every half a second
and the boss fight effects rlly lag out my laptop
wait styx is the area after the final boss right?
before*
yeah the last area before the final boss
ah god
i have touched ||hades|| once
havent bene able to reach him again
ah welp thanks for the info
so on a run i should always go for permanent items right?
nectar, etc
yeah there's some stuff that's important to unlock to do stronger runs but it's not, like, bad to go for temporary rewards for stronger practice runs
like the weapons and the mirror are important for getting through
how bout furniture jewel v darkness
i think i only need to unlock the 30 key mirror upgrade
furniture is just decorative except for a few things in the first tab
no worries this is the new player channel after all lol
👍
This is your daily public service reminder that there is no shame in using God Mode 🌟
There's a lot of enthusiasm about creating perfect builds and achieving fast runs in the Hades community, and that's awesome and good!
But if that's not your bag and you just want to progress the plot without stressing out so much, that's super valid, too! 💕
We are all SGG fans. 
I don’t think anything in the first tab is decorative, and a few items in the other tabs are functional as well
yeah u right
You know, that message is so wholesome, I feel tempted to pin it (if only it was a whole message instead of it being split)
@ocean basalt you can just edit your first message to contain all of the text. 

Beating the game on the lowest difficulty is still beating the game
4856
50490
^
The option is there for a reason
i'm consistently getting through theseus and the mino now. just with really low health almost every time and one death defied used usually
no more than one though out of the two i have
Well, you're getting better at game
Soon enough you'll be clearing champions without losing any DDs at all
weirdly the temple never seems to give me too much trouble
im now starting to get the bow hype. even the non-crit flashy shots do a whole bunch of damage
ayy bow society
I was always a bow/machete aficionado in Bastion
so the bow is Good for me
if we could dual wield in Hades, I'd be bow/sword all day long 😁
technically you can dual wield fists
Hello so yesterday i beat Tartarus and went on Asphodel but died in Asphodel. When i start my run again. I have to start from Tartarus again? So i have to beat Tartarus boss again to go asphodel?
how do you unlock the ability to get duo boons?
yep you gotta go through every run from the beginning of the game to the end
you can get duo boons if you have the prerequisite boons
if you go in the codex and hover over the duo boon, you can see what boons you need to get the duo boon
I started a new file, and it's my 14th run and I haven't been suggested a single duo boon yet
do you have the expanded codex yet? the one that shows you the boons that gods can offer?
I don't know how to unlock the codex index, it doesn't let me see the list of boons for each olympian
how do I get it?
you just gotta do enough runs and achilles will give it to you
also near the bottom of the mirror theres a perk that increases duo chances
generally for beating later bosses you want big single target damage
but a lot of things can work
Please spoiler-tag the final boss.
how do you unlock the ability to get the codex index from the contractor? I got the fated list of prophecies but it's still not showing up. I think it's a glitch
I read that it's possible you have to get your first duo boon, but I have get to see a single one by my 15th one
sometimes you have to buy the current contractor options for new ones to show up
the rod of fishing, giving him a vacation
oh I just got it! I think the key was giving out nectar
is that the very very last one
its the 2nd to last
Do i need to fight boss in Tartarus again???
yes
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
welp this is gonna take a long time to beat hades since i suck at it
you'll improve as you play more, improving the mirror will also help you a bunch ^_^
turn on god mode in the options.
trust me, you don't want to take 60 runs to get out
yeah turn on god mode if you feel you need it
eh, everyone gets there first clear at their own rate, it's not on anyone to tell them how many escape attempts it should or shouldn't take
hm okay
really, it makes the game so much more fun when you're struggling
because every death isn't a total waste
I've never turned on god mode, and I have plenty of fun. It's entirely up to you. But the option is there if you like it.
i actually did get out on exactly my 60th run without god mode & that was worthwhile for me bc i was still able to see that i was making improvements every time
if the difficulty is such that you aren't getting better or aren't getting better fast enough, or if you just aren't into difficult, then god mode is a good option. taking a long time is not a big deal though
it took me way more than 60 runs, I'm slow as anything, I have never turned on god mode, I'm still absolute pants unless I get a decent build, and I REGRET NOTHING
i regretted everything haha, i even stopped playing for a few months because it was so frustrating to never get out
yeah that's understandable lol burnout is def a thing
i was still consistently getting new dialogue at the House throughout my runs which helped a lot for me to keep playing
same thing happened to me because the last boss seemed impossible in the two tries I had in my 8 hours playtime :')
I guess I will continue soon enough
I just maxed Achilles spear, should i try to get every weapon or max another one?
i think there's a prophecy for unlocking every aspect?
yeah there is, minus the hidden aspects cuz they have their own prophecies
Is eris cannon good? Achilles gives %150 but eris is much lower i think
Eris is best rail aspect
achilles only lasts for 4 hits
eris is until the time runs out
but since you can spam specials (even while reloading), the buff is pretty much active 24/7
Achilles gives +150% bonus damage only to your Attack and your Cast. Eris gives +75% global damage bonus. This applies to everything including lightning, Casts, dashes, status curses, Calls...
hey guys! quick question that i have: do i have to beat the end boss to be able to use ambrosia? i have two or three of the npcs with a locked heart icon and idk what to do. (I can reliably get to the end boss, but can't quite manage to beat him just yet)
locked hearts mean you have to do a favor for them, usually said favor is on the fated list if its the people from the house of hades, but for the gods, you can check the wiki
with the power of the bow, i finally enter temple of styx with no death defiances used yet
and including my keepsake, i have 4
i did it! my first victory!
congrats!
congrats 
congrats
you did it! 
welp, topped it off with another victory. 2 victory streak
I have two small children and I work freelance part-time, so at this stage of my life I simply don't have the time to pour into getting good at a game that I used to
But I beat all three of SGG's previous games and I would be heartbroken if I couldn't experience the story of their latest
So God Mode is a lifesaver for me
(I normally stick to indie games that take <15 hours to complete, these days, because otherwise it takes forever to finish them in my dribs and drabs of spare time, but I'm making an exception because Supergiant
)
i haven't seen Than in a weird while. i got him to 6 nectars two days ago, saw him a few times after, but couldnt give ambrosia. now he just ghosting me
hes shy n nervous bestie <3
I finally got to give him all the required ambrosia and i have 75 more or so hours in the game lol
am i the only one that held off giving certain characters more nectar/ambrosia to hear more of their dialogue?? i like the writing too much
whoops forgot i couldnt swear
yeah it's really odd that there's such a strict swear filter on a server on a mature rated game
i get it because its such an open and hugely populated discord server but man, some quotes in hades make you go 😳
You can't miss any of the dialogue.
..huh!
you learn something every day.
unless 1 person starts talking over another
The server isn't just for Hades, and the other games have much lower ratings
Power shot is when your bow is almost fully charged, the box that shows your range flashes white
does the favor of the boatman do anything?
Like once you reached the maximum amount of hearts
Also does deflect also deflect melee attacks?
favors are cosmetic unless they also play into finishing a prophecy
and yeah you can deflect melee
Thanks! : )
I keep dying in asphodel 😦
Is it supposed to be like that?
I'm like 6 hours into the game
what about asphodel is giving you trouble?
@void wyvern just red it. Thanks!
Hey more power to ya mate, I’ve thought about doing god mode a few times just for the power trip myself ngl 
Hey everyone has there tough spots, what weapon do you use and what gives you the most trouble?
hey, I'm using the fists right now
Heyyy another fists runner
Mostly it's the boxers that are troubling
Boxers?
a sec
Aight
bone-rakers
and medusa+that crushing rock combo
that is also annoying
