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quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:10 PM

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I could like 100 passive dps

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The best kind of kill is overkill

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Make that shade feel true pain

stray terrace Jan 11, 2021, 10:13 PM

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when you forget you have a god gauge at all

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Damnit

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I got him down to the last half of his bar

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I’ll try again

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:20 PM

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mind editing your post to spoiler the final boss' mechanics? cheers

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(as per rules in this channel) friendly

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Ok

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:20 PM

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at least you got a good taste for the fight, you'll have good understanding next run

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@fluid yoke i saw you hit your 50, gz gz POGGERS

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:22 PM

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I’m gonna prob use Artemis’ boon for tartarus

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I rarely die there so no need for lucky tooth

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:23 PM

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sounds good, can always start your build off on the right foot

fluid yoke Jan 11, 2021, 10:23 PM

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ok i appreciate it but can you not

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I generally do tart + aspho keepsakes now, and then acorn for ely+styx

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Wait what keepsakes for tart and aspho

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And what’s the acorn again?

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

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sorry I meant like, god boon related keepsakes for those two levels

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so I can further my build if I know what i'm doing

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Oh

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

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and acorn gives immunity for the first 5? hits of each floor's boss fight

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

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First clear with aspect of ||Beowulf|| yeee

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

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nice snail, it's a weird little aspect isn't it

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what build did you go?

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Yep. ||Acorn|| helped a lot during the final boss

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

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I’m thinking I’ll equip Artemis’s keepsake for tart and Are’s for aspho

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Ares never hurts imo

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:26 PM

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I almost got to the ||second phase|| with ||acorn shield still up||

fluid yoke Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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epic

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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drowsy plover I almost got to the ||second phase|| with ||acorn shield still up||

spoiler Sadge

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Oops

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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I’m gonna fight a fury with my shield for some blood

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Then I can finally get that one good spear aspect

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:27 PM

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achilles poggear

quick thorn Jan 11, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Yeah

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:28 PM

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So I had Athena dash and aid, Zeus cast, Aphrodite attack. And a lot of God gauge fill boons

worldly vigil Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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What are the requirements for ||getting Orpheus to sing||

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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And hydraulic might is really nice

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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sounds.. interesting akek can't say I know how that build would interact

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I did a trippy shot > zeus + dio fog boon on my last hidden shield run, it's bonkers strong

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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Spamming attack xD

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Trippy shot is always nice.

worldly vigil Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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Everything that I have seen says give 5 nectar

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 10:29 PM

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nah it's not nectar based

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I've only just started giving him some lol

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||I think you need some constractor upgrades? his music stand or whatever?||

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:30 PM

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Not really, ||he starts singing by himself after a few runs||

worldly vigil Jan 11, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Okay I just got the ||music stand|| and that worked. Ty!!

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Okay wait maybe not. ||Music plays, but I Orpheus isn't singing||

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Ah I guess I'll just keep on playing and hope for the best

rich cave Jan 11, 2021, 10:49 PM

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That’s how the music stand works

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I believe whether he sings or not after a run is rng

drowsy plover Jan 11, 2021, 10:56 PM

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Lol dad just said "Is Tartarus a joke to you?" after I cleared it with ||EM1|| on for the first time

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Incoming memes

chilly marsh Jan 11, 2021, 10:58 PM

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i found a really good 1st clear varatha build pog

karmic aurora Jan 11, 2021, 11:31 PM

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does nourished soul amplify stubborn defiance's healing?

polar smelt Jan 11, 2021, 11:36 PM

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drowsy plover Lol dad just said "Is Tartarus a joke to you?" after I cleared it with ||EM1|| o...

Why yes, yes it is KEKW its amusing to me when I have like ||5 min left on clock and he says that||

woven eagle Jan 11, 2021, 11:59 PM

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karmic aurora does `nourished soul` amplify `stubborn defiance`'s healing?

It amplifies any max hp buffs that you get(like centaur hearts). So the answer is only indirectly

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Nourished Soul is the increased health from healing sources boon. You're thinking of Life Affirmation, mastrer

woven eagle Jan 12, 2021, 12:00 AM

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my bad

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answer is still no

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I really suck at remebering skill names

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 12:01 AM

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All good, it takes time shadethumbsup

woven eagle Jan 12, 2021, 12:02 AM

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I have over 150 hours, I should remeber that stuff lol

leaden whale Jan 12, 2021, 1:09 AM

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wdym

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also, slight spoiler bro

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:09 AM

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what is this sorcery? i actually had a great build too...

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yo damn

leaden whale Jan 12, 2021, 1:09 AM

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this is the new channel

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:09 AM

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i didnt even know, i couldnt find anything on it online

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sorry

leaden whale Jan 12, 2021, 1:10 AM

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#h1-builds-and-combat go there

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:10 AM

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||wouldn't fight you, was that your 10th clear?||

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:11 AM

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guess so?

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Yeah, just keep going, you'll see what happens

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:11 AM

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i wasnt sure if this is some kind of rare event

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 1:11 AM

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And enjoy!

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:11 AM

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worry_mask what wight said

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I do agree with the sentiment of "damn I really liked this run"

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I still don't know what that emote really means wight LUL3D

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 1:12 AM

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devious

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 1:12 AM

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It's exactly as the name implies, yes

woven eagle Jan 12, 2021, 1:13 AM

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polar smelt *I do agree with the sentiment of "damn I really liked this run" <:KEKW:63640197...

That always seems to happen when you have an op build

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:13 AM

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ahhh alright

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the lore is on point

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i wondered about that aspect of the mythology already

woven eagle Jan 12, 2021, 1:13 AM

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I have watched a couple of streamers get to that point and they always had a great build that would have made the fight easy

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yeah man i just tried the magnet hands for the first time

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and tried to combo those with poseidon boons

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:14 AM

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talos fists are fun, I prefer demeter slightly

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:14 AM

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which worked super well, i even got that second hit knockback boon

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and i got the hammer for the life on kill uppercut

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:15 AM

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the huge uppercut to delete elite armour is nice

mild tinsel Jan 12, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i just dragged them all around, bouncing all over the place XD

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gotta revisit that one

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:19 AM

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polar smelt the *huge* uppercut to delete elite armour is nice

The ability to stack hangover and ||freeze|| is also very nice

raw locust Jan 12, 2021, 1:19 AM

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So I just beat the second boss. If I were to close the game, will my run says?

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:19 AM

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You have to pause it and select "quit"

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Then you can close it and you'll resume the next time you select your profile

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:22 AM

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rich cave The ability to stack hangover and ||freeze|| is also very nice

Are they the two you normally go for on special? I never can figure out what i want KEKW

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Ares special + stacking doom boon would be beautiful

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Yeah I try to get one of them. Had a really good run earlier with ||freeze|| on special got ~1000 damage for each hit and it slowed down the enemy

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:24 AM

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How on earth was it doing 1k

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:25 AM

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I have it max level

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That's like 5 punches right

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Combined it was 1k with the damage buff from the boon

raw locust Jan 12, 2021, 1:28 AM

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rich cave Then you can close it and you'll resume the next time you select your profile

Does this only apply after beating a boss in the little “safe room”?

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:28 AM

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You can do it in any room

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Nah any room

raw locust Jan 12, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Alright ty

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Once you see the game icon in top right

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 1:29 AM

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It just has to be before you accept the reward iirc

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Its been saved

quartz condor Jan 12, 2021, 2:23 AM

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the game does a good job of making sure you dont leave w/o taking rewards

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 2:23 AM

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It does, though be careful because it doesn't stop you from leaving behind optional rewards

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 2:23 AM

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the urns...

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they frustrate me so much lol

quartz condor Jan 12, 2021, 2:24 AM

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i've learned that you shouldnt underestimate a couple things: big fat health pool and gold

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:27 AM

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yup I always see golden pots after i've clicked the door

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 2:28 AM

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I meant like, drops from troves and the like, but that too yes

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:29 AM

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ah i ignore troves 99% of the time unless i'm desperate for health then I start checking them for darkness/hp

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I don't see a use in gemstones anymore and I rarely shop so I always have fat stacks going into styx

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 2:30 AM

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i remember once i completed a trove and the reward was right next to the door and i left the room without taking the reward

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:30 AM

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i did that once

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lost over 100 darkness

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:31 AM

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KEKW that hurts

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do y'all do lounge trades for darkness? part of me thinks its pointless because i'll earn darkness passiveyl, part of me thinks it's good cause then i'll max out persuasion faster

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:31 AM

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i blame it not instantly giving you the resources after opening the trove

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not really

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since its usually like

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ambrosia which i kind of need

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or gems and i need those as well

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I haven't found a massive need for ambrosia but I probably have low relationships compared to others

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 AM

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i just get darkness for badges and stuff

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I usually take the deal because like 500 darkness for 1 ambrosia

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 AM

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i've spent so much darkness on badges at this point it aint even funny

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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i still need alot for fated

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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badges Hmm is that the npc in ||dad's bedroom?||

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Yes

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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or something else i'm forgetting

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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yes

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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currently nearly at fated persuasion 3

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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ah I haven't done him yet

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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I maxed out the mirror lol

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Probably don't need to talk about ||Ranks|| in the new players channel

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 AM

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authority is 3

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yeah

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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How much darkness do you need for ||nyx's quest||

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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iirc 3,142

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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That's a lot

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:34 AM

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yeah

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i mean i guess just bring poseidon keepsake

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and go for darkness runs

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 2:54 AM

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why does posiedon help

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 2:55 AM

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He has boons that let you get more darkness.

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:56 AM

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boon that increases darkness from chambers 50 percent at common

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and gems

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so its good for farming gems as well

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Any tips for taking out Theseus? He's annoying when I try to take out Asterius

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:09 AM

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when starting out, I kept a pillar between me and him at all times so I didn't have to worry as much about the spear (espeically listening to the audio cue of him being about to throw)

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asterius I would dash through his slam attack, and then deal damage during that opening

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Interesting

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Thanks for the tip

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:11 AM

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if possible avoid taking theseus below 50% hp (until you're more confident) as that'll trigger his second attack which is monumentally more scary

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:11 AM

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His god call move is annoying

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:11 AM

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yuuup

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Usually I have divine dash and it just deflects it

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 3:12 AM

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I always take out Asterius before touching Theseus

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def makes it easier

errant bramble Jan 12, 2021, 3:13 AM

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It took me a while to recognize this, but each God actually attacks in a certain pattern so you can make dodging the Gods a lot easier

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:13 AM

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modern bridge Usually I have divine dash and it just deflects it

god I wish I could have divine dash on hand LUL3D

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:14 AM

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If you do trigger Theseus’s call phase finish him off first unless Asterius is very low

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:14 AM

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take athena keepsake for second area if you don't have divine dash by then, that helps

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I don't like taking her for the first area because I want to get some actual damage then

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:15 AM

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nah too focussed on my actual build / duoboon keepsake , I just take athena naturally

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:15 AM

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so unless I want her for her attack or cast, I don't take her in tartarus

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 AM

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I usually take Chaos keepsake into Tartarus, Athena into Asphodel, Ares in Elysium, and Lucky tooth into Styx

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 AM

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non defensive keepsake in elysium, man's bolder than me LUL3D

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me: hits elysium
me: ohh acorn~

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 AM

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I take Zeus -> Athena -> Spearpoint -> Acorn

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I feel like I'm not good enough yet to use the acorn lol

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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relevant starting keepsake -> follow up duo boon keepsake ->acorn ->acorn

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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I like to think of acorn as inverse tooth

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Only reason I take spearpoint over acorn in Elysium is because I play with ||em3|| and Asterius turns into a bayblade

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Acorn is from Eurydice right?

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Yes

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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what's spearpoint do again?

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Dope

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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I go acorn for the last two areas because of how asterius does that

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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polar smelt what's spearpoint do again?

After you take damage you’ve impervious for a short time

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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ah that would be pretty good against low but fast damage dealers

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Patroclus keepsake right?

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Yeah, but the bosses don't tend to do a lot of smaller hits but one big hit

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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polar smelt ah that would be pretty good against low but fast damage dealers

Or high but fast like Asterius lol

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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amonkaomega

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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modern bridge Patroclus keepsake right?

I think so

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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Do you guys ever use your cast? I never use it unless I get a decent boon for it

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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100%

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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I use it for boiling blood

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:20 AM

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50% damage when lodged ^

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:21 AM

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I do use it a bit more often when I have a boon on it but I’ll still throw it in an enemy before I attack them without one

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:21 AM

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I only ever use it with Crush shot or True shot

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:22 AM

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I get either Zeus or Artemis on cast

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Why Zeus?

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:22 AM

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It’s good

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It bounces between enemies

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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room clear go brr

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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And if you get another boon from Zeus you can increase the amount of enemies it can jump from

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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is achilles a zeus start? thnkng

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Getting it in Tartarus and murdering rooms full of numbskulls is fun

native rivet Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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any tips on final boss? im usin spear rn

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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native rivet any tips on final boss? im usin spear rn

Aspect?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:24 AM

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native rivet any tips on final boss? im usin spear rn

dash through him more than dashing to the sides, a lot easier to time and don't need to guess which way he's swinging

native rivet Jan 12, 2021, 3:24 AM

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aspect of zagreas

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:24 AM

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If I were you I’d stay far and poke at him since he swings hard but close

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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true if you've gone special based can just kite

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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native rivet aspect of zagreas

Boons?

native rivet Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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his spin attack takes like 70% of the arena tho

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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It’s not thaaaattt big

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Also I usually just time a dash though it

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Much easier than dashing out of it and back in

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 AM

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native rivet his spin attack takes like 70% of the arena tho

You can dash out of it or if you have an athena boon you can deflect

light flame Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 AM

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if you get the timing down you can dash INTO his spin and still not take damage even without a dash boon

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 AM

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^

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With close ranged weapons like fists that’s about my only option without taking forever to kill him lol

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:28 AM

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I never use fists

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:29 AM

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They are a lot of fun to play

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:29 AM

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The only fists I ever use are the magnetic ones

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:29 AM

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I started with that aspect

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After I grinded enough titan blood to max out demeter aspect I did and haven’t turned back

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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yea mb

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I am aware

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I saw

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Is the secret fist aspect any good?

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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yes

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you need hidden spear aspect first though

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Imo it’s not as good as the others because it’s a lot clunkier and slower but lots of people like it

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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maiden nexus you need hidden spear aspect first though

I already have it

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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hidden sword best sword POGGERS

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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And I unlocked the sword

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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need 5 blood

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into fists then I think

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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I've been using ||Excalibur|| a lot

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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zag aspect may or may not count

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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||and you need to find asterius in his mini-boss room||

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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idk

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Sword is the only hidden aspect I prefer over the base aspects

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I was awful at normal aspect swords, but hidden has my pb and honestly my most fun

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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polar smelt ||and you need to find asterius in his mini-boss room||

and hope you have no backlog dialogue lol

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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This ^

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I had to run 8 total runs

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running in to hermes both times every run

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to unlock his favor

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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that's valid, though I always enjoyed running into him, he's weirdly wholesome akek

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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I've only completed 4 runs and 3/4 were done with the hidden sword aspect

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:34 AM

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I did like 10 fists runs without finding him and when I finally did I got a different dialogue

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:34 AM

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I didn't get

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the 10k quest

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till I had 30 k killed

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XDDDD

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Lol

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I just remember getting the quest and then 2 runs later getting the dialogue for completing the quest

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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10k quest? thnkng

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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10k kills from ares

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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It unlocks his ||last heart||

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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once you get the dialogue to show up to unlock it

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Ayo how do I gift Achilles ambrosia

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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alt f4

modern bridge Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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maiden nexus alt f4

Done

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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you need to max honey first

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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complete his favor first

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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||need to do the side quest with patrocles I assume?||

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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modern bridge Ayo how do I gift Achilles ambrosia

||Gift Patroclus and Nyx and unlock administrative access||

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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yea Achilles is a lot jesus

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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delete system 32 /j

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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rich cave ||Gift Patroclus and Nyx and unlock administrative access||

||NYX IS RELATED TO THAT???||

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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Yes

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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oh my god...

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I've

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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She’s related to a lot

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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nyx is related to like

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3 other favours

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like

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5

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM

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||she only tells you where the contract is||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM

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I've done 10+ runs since getting the specific line which I thought triggered the next step

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I'm

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I'm tilt

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Oof

maiden nexus Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM

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||all the contracts involve her||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:37 AM

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well, I now know what im doing when I finish work tonight KEKW

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:39 AM

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yeah

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||you need her up for sispyhus & orpheus + eurydice ||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:40 AM

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my head is in my hands atm

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the amount of times

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I've seen the G pop up next to her to gift

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and just kept walkin

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just

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so much pain

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:40 AM

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you messed up

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big time

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:40 AM

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im sorry purple mom :c

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Of course she isn't going to tell you important stuff if you don't get close to her first

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Who else are you going to ask? Hades? But he doesn't like you and I'm not sure he knows where everything is

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:43 AM

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I guess I'm not supposed to know of the record in reality

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ugh

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just

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KEKW

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i'm laughing in pain

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Uhh I'm still in the first region and I have divine dash and two extra dashes

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I've never felt so lucky lol

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:53 AM

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wow

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epic

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 3:55 AM

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hmm

modern tusk Jan 12, 2021, 3:55 AM

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I just started playing this game and its fun as hell *pun not intended

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Does anyone have any tips for a beginner?

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:57 AM

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don't feel ashamed to use god mode or ask for help

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everyone playsthe game at their own pace

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:57 AM

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first, welcome worry_wave
second, a lot of the "tips" we can give is honestly exploring and finding things out for yourself,
a lot of this game is actually personal preference over "meta/tiers".

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:57 AM

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yeah

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like what weapon / boon combos work for you

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against what

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:57 AM

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even though this game is a roguelike, there's actually benefits of dying for stories/sub stories, so it's best to dive straight in and see how things go

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:58 AM

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yeah

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i think ive actually missed out on a small sidequest for not dying against someone multiple times

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||the asterius autograph for hypnos||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I'm not sure how beginner you are, so my super early tips are:

don't forget the mirror, it's super useful
unlock weapons before mirror
don't forget to gift everyone at least 1 nectar so you can get their keepsakes
have fun

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:59 AM

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yeah

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don't forget you can upgrade the mirror

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extra darkness abilities help alot

modern tusk Jan 12, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Thank you. I only have like 2 hours in the game but I was able to beat the first boss then got destroyed in that second area early lol

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 4:02 AM

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sounds like a good start to me POGGERS

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 4:03 AM

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yeah

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good progress

modern tusk Jan 12, 2021, 4:06 AM

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Who should prioritize my first few nectars to? Like for the most benefit?

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 4:07 AM

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skelly, cerebus

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respawn and extra health respectively

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 4:10 AM

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whoever you want tbh

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just get 1 nectar to everyone

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Hello i have a question

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I keep giving gifts to chaos

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 4:10 AM

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some keepsakes do help more than others early game but getting alot of them is really important so hand it out

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:10 AM

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But i cant give him anymore

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And his heart is locked

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What to do?

ocean cosmos Jan 12, 2021, 4:10 AM

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progress his story

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:11 AM

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ocean cosmos progress his story

How?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 4:12 AM

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molten arch How?

||Chaos' favor is part of the same event as Nyx's favor, requiring you to reunite the two of them to fulfill one of the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. At some point, Chaos will reveal that they tried to reach out to Nyx, per Zagreus' advice. Later on, Nyx will instruct you to upgrade the eldest sigil in the administrative chamber to serve as a bridge to Chaos, which will cost you 3142 Darkness at the House Contractor. After purchasing the upgrade, you can find Nyx in Chaos' domain, and Chaos will remark that they are pleased to be able to reconnect with their daughter. From then on, you can give Ambrosia to Chaos.||

ocean cosmos Jan 12, 2021, 4:12 AM

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progress ||Nyx||

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Thank you but im not sure i understand well

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Wdym with "progress"?

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Gift

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Give them nectars?

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Yes

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Ah ok so in order to progress i should give everyone nectars

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I always thought that by gifting them i advance my chances to date them

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Im wrong right

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Partially right, but not everyone has a romance path

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:17 AM

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So gifting is mainly for progressing storiew

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Stories

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 4:17 AM

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it's not a harem anime

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 4:18 AM

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wish it was tho

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 4:18 AM

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but zag can get involved in romance(s)

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 4:18 AM

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I want to romance meg

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 4:19 AM

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||you can||

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||best waifu||

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||meg companion stays on||

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shadesmile

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 5:06 AM

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What are the romance options again? ||Dusa, Megaera, and Thanatos, I think?||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 5:07 AM

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correct, but ||dusa is with an asterisk||

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 5:07 AM

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I see.

crisp grove Jan 12, 2021, 5:11 AM

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wait a ||companion? like you can have someone follow u around and help u fight?||

floral nacelle Jan 12, 2021, 5:11 AM

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Not exactly follow

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But you can ||summon them once in a battle, up to 5 times, more if you buy a charon well item, to damage foes or distract foes or petrify them and stuff like that||

crisp grove Jan 12, 2021, 5:13 AM

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hmmmm what does giving nectar to the hound give you?

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 5:13 AM

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you can only have ||5 companions||

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Out of curiosity, ||how’s the thing with Thanatos handled? Is it fairly modern homosexual courting (which is to say that it’s not really any different from a modern heterosexual relationship), or is it handled more closely to one of the many ways ancient Greek “homosexuality” (in scare quotes because it really was quite a different phenomenon) is thought to have functioned?||

||My hunch is that it’s a more modern take since that’s how the heterosexual romances seem to work, as well.||

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 5:30 AM

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are the romance scenes sfw?

waxen basin Jan 12, 2021, 5:32 AM

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civic blaze are the romance scenes sfw?

yes

waxen basin Jan 12, 2021, 5:32 AM

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sand crag Out of curiosity, ||how’s the thing with Thanatos handled? Is it fairly modern h...

modern

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 5:34 AM

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waxen basin yes

too sfw

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 5:35 AM

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shadedisgruntled

waxen basin Jan 12, 2021, 5:35 AM

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bonk

pulsar frigate Jan 12, 2021, 5:36 AM

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civic blaze are the romance scenes sfw?

||the closest to nsfw the game gets is a fade-to-black at a particular point in the romance||

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 5:36 AM

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shadeembarassed

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 5:36 AM

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if by sfw you mean fade to black, whip cracks, laughing then yes it's perfectly safe for the whole family

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 5:38 AM

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they're just playing board games bro it's completely sfw

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 5:39 AM

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I don’t think I’d like it if Megaera whipped my hiney.

That said, if my alternative is between a disembodied head and another man, then I guess Megaera is my best choice.

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Thanatos is hot, though. 😳

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 5:44 AM

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thanatos

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thanatos

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thanatos

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 5:45 AM

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After 26 attempts

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I finally reached hades

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Almost beat him

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Then i got my ass handed to me...

crimson bramble Jan 12, 2021, 5:49 AM

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I think I also endured a similar fate on my 26th attempt

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I feel you @molten arch

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Is there any overlap between ||olympian pride and god's pride|| or should i reset the mirror and invest fully in one?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 5:49 AM

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molten arch I finally reached hades

friendly reminder that ||hades|| is a spoiler in this channel, so please refer to final boss as final boss, ||spoiler his name|| or [redacted]

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:52 AM

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anyone know?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 5:53 AM

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I'd assume it's like a spinning wheel where you're just increasing the chance for the "hit" to be a epic or rare

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take note of my use of assume, I don't actually run either of those mirror things KEKW

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:53 AM

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right, but can rare override epic, for example

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 5:54 AM

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I would assume not

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if an entire wheel is 100%
40% is now rare
20% is now epic
leaving 40% to be common

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:54 AM

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or could it instead be that the epic one needs to 'see' a rare and then provides a chance of upgrade

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the wiki doesn't really illuminate it

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Them being available separately provides a clue that they are separate pools

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Which I believe they are

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Rare and epic and duo roll independently I think

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:57 AM

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wait duo? I don't have a duo bonus on my mirror

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 5:57 AM

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they can still appear even without bonuses

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I run gods legacy tho cause I live for the duos

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Yeah it’s just a chance increase buff. It’s still there without it

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 5:59 AM

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ohhh i see, the flip side

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absolutely going for that lol

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Yeah the duo bonus is pretty great

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:00 AM

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legends aren't shabby either

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Don’t get caught in the trap of thinking the epic bonus is worthless though. It can be niche, but 20% epic for a whole run is a good deal too

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:01 AM

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Personally i run dark foresight & gods legacy (the inverse of the two you use)

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:01 AM

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i mean, sure, i can reset the mirror whenever

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:01 AM

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Yeah trial and error what you like

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 6:01 AM

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I would invest in the duo upgrade first yeah

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 6:03 AM

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Its a bit sad that there is only 4 levels tho...

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:06 AM

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better than nothing

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:06 AM

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holy wow the music in this game is just incredible

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:07 AM

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last words is a bop

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 6:08 AM

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I like the song the lady sings in the second level

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:08 AM

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^^

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What do you guys do with keys after unlocking all weapons and mirror abilities?

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Trade for nectar to fuel your gifting sprees on runs?

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:12 AM

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okay just wanted to make sure there wasn't something better I should be doing

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 6:16 AM

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I like playing with the sword but i feel like its harder to play with it than other weapons like the gun for example

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Range is good

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Enemies can't hit you if they can't reach you.

molten arch Jan 12, 2021, 6:18 AM

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Yeah but still...

wise aspen Jan 12, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Just got game tonight, and going range build. I don’t much about the builds but I hope I don’t get clapped later

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Know**

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 6:21 AM

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The Stygian Blade feels less flexible than other weapons to me. My favorite is the Shield of Chaos.

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:21 AM

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you probably will, but that's part of the learning experience

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 6:21 AM

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I’m sure the Blade is good, though.

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:22 AM

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molten arch I like playing with the sword but i feel like its harder to play with it than ot...

Gun is one of the hardest weapons imo.

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:23 AM

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game is 100% preference based, some people who think rail is the best & easiest to use

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:24 AM

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gun is mechanically demanding but super rewarding once you get the reload rhythm and special bomb placement down

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:24 AM

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Build is simple. Super oversimplified version. Please take with a grain of salt dissolved in 10 quarts of water
Fast attack weapons go well with Zeus, Dionysus, Ares, Demeter
Slow attack weapons go well with Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter
Do: Athena
Acquired taste: Poseidon

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More info can be found in the guide pinned on this channel.

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:25 AM

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both eris and hestia are among the most popular high difficulty and speedrun weapons

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:25 AM

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muted latch gun is mechanically demanding but super rewarding once you get the reload rhythm...

bomb placement... on my head KEKW

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~~yes I know it's not as simple as that~~

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:26 AM

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gun is mechanically demanding
Gun literally goes brrrrrr.

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Also why is gun called the rail?

crimson bramble Jan 12, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Why do fast attacks go well with Ares, if Doom doesn't stack?

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:30 AM

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there is a tier 2 boon from ares that adds more damage to doom with stacks

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but I would say yes, dont use ares on fast attack weapons

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:32 AM

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crimson bramble Why do fast attacks go well with Ares, if Doom doesn't stack?

Various reasons:

Easier to apply to multiple target
Yeah, doom can stack with tier 2 boons.
There is a Duo boon called Merciful End which can be hard to find and set up. But when you do, basically you can proc Doom as fast as you can Special/Attack/Dash.

crimson bramble Jan 12, 2021, 6:33 AM

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ah so fast Ares is less focusing individual enemies and more yeeting doom all over the place until you get that tier 2 or duo

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:33 AM

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yeah.

unreal eagle Jan 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

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Ares curse is the best

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Next is hangover

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

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others can chime in but I highly rate doom on hidden sword's special, huge aoe

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

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With heavy hitting weapons like bow and Doom, you can end up overkilling before your doom proc also.

unreal eagle Jan 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

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Aye

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I love doom with ||aspect of arthur||

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:34 AM

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So it's a bit unintuitive, but Doom benefits more from faster attacking weapon.

unreal eagle Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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and fist of malphon

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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How does one... easily remember names of Boons?

unreal eagle Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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if you have merciful end

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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we play too much

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LUL3D

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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^^^

unreal eagle Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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by playing too much

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yea

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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I—

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Have a pea brain.

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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dw I have 2 brain cells

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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my og favourite combo was shield + zeus & ares revenge boons + duo

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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but 340 hours in it hard not to remember them all.

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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I logged 500+ hours into Isaac and can still barely remember the names of a lot of items off the top of my head.

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:35 AM

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that was good times

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I feel so,,, helpless in convos right now. Like a baby. 😭😭

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:36 AM

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The wiki is reallly good

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:36 AM

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we are the wiki KEKW

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:36 AM

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LOOOL.

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I think I get so caught up in reading what the item does that I just go "OOOH THIS GIVES ME ATTACK? MINE."

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:37 AM

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I'd be lying if I said I didn't have the duo boon wiki page open 24/7 when playing

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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lolololol.

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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can't you just use the codex and hover your mouse over the duo boons

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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I always have this discord and the wiki on my second monitor when I play lol

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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polar smelt I'd be lying if I said I didn't have the duo boon wiki page open 24/7 when playi...

I honestly think that wiki-ing is a part of playing a roguelite

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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yes but wiki is faster to me

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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I accidentally... Spoiled myself through the wiki though so I tried to stay away from it. ;-;

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:39 AM

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can't go wrong with the codex

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:39 AM

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OH THAT'S TRUE.
I'm dumb.
studies the codex instead of my actual college work

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I have honestly learned to not hate minor spoilers in games.. I am pretty bad at most games so I have to do extensive research to have a chance of being half way decent

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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I got majorly spoiled. 😭

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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I’m happy and I’m sad

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I just beat my first run

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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POGGERS

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congrats

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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ayyy nice

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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Using the fists

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On a run where I didn’t want to win

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I did the run to kill bosses for drops

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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why would you not want to win?

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:41 AM

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Cause my main focus of the run was to get other items

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Still happy tho

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:41 AM

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has anyone used curse of longing much? I didn't even realize it was a thing till 30s ago

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:42 AM

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curse of longing 😩 👌

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:42 AM

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it's good

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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Now I want to do a aphro/ares build lol

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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passive damage is always good

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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Ares is one of my favorite gods

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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what would you run it on is my question thnkng

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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Doom is great

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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I'm thinking chaos shield?

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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It adds on so much damage

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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worldly vigil I'm thinking chaos shield?

Spear

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Spear is the best

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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I don't think chaos cause you'd be struggling to apply either the weak or doom

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since the attack is so-so

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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Spear easily gives doom

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And weak

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:43 AM

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unless you get a big bullrush off

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I don't use spear's attack... at all anymore LUL3D

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Oh I misunderstood the boon

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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zag sword, hades spear, hidden shield with crush shot, chaos shield

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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HIDDEN SHIELD WITH CRUSH SHOT

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OH YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

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aight, that's my next run

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Whats the hidden shielf

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Shield

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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4th aspect for shield

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(which is a spoiler in this channel)

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Oh

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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so we just refer to it as hidden shield

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Whats the crush shot

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:44 AM

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aphro's cast

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

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Ph

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Oh

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

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the hidden shield has an interaction with casts

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which is why that build makes a lot of sense

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

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also not a bad idea on zag fist or talos fist

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:45 AM

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I'm a demeter fist only gang sorry

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KEKW

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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I’m trying to get the hidden spear

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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S/O my boy demeter fists nejoyer

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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From what I’ve seen it makes you a glass cannon

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Less health but lots of damage

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Seems good

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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I feel like I've heard it's kinda janky

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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But I’m prone to taking damage a lot

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:46 AM

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too little health

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Doesn’t the hidden rail need the hidden spear

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Maybe I’ll get the spear then the rail

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:47 AM

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#h1-story-discussion 2nd pin for hidden aspects

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:47 AM

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||To unlock any other hidden aspects you have to get Guan Yu first||

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Ok

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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hey dig, when do you generally use your companion in hydra fight? I never actually know KEKW

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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So that’s my main priority now

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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I dont need companion on lernie

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he dies in a minute

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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well it's not a matter of need, but I generally just use 1 for 3 bosses after tart

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Lernie?

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:48 AM

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2nd boss

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Oh

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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eh minor spoiler there, mb

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edited.

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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I can usually get to elysium on any given run

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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||after you face hydra enough times, zag decides to name him lernie||

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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Sometimes I can get past it

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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relatable tbh

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elysium is most run killers

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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2nd boss is so easy if you have ranged weapon imo

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Most rooms in it are fine but some suck

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And the boss is insane

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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yeah agreed

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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I always get taken out by the bull

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:50 AM

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keep practicing

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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I find that if you have a really good dash and an attack damage buff, the second boss is very easy.

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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just keep dashing

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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I usually just abort the run if I use a dd in tart or aspho

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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I get Ares's dash and go wild.

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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Ares’ call is great for second boss imo

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:51 AM

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I almost feel like I'm cheating right now.. I'm using the beyblade build to get the reward for clearing with all weapons

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I wonder how viable the build is at higher heat levels

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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As soon as I realized how good the spear is against it I stopped dying to second boss

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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whats that build

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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worldly vigil I wonder how viable the build is at higher heat levels

Like Zeus Shield?

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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hunting blades duo

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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Oh

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:52 AM

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Why does the game allow you to use the dpad on switch to move

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I can’t understand doing that

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:53 AM

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me too

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Most rooms are diagonal so you have to press two buttons to move

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In a horizontal/vertical direction

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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I play mouse/keyboard.. you have to press two buttons to move most of the time lol

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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If you're like me and you don't use the hold attack, get the hammer upgrade that makes it so you can just hold down while attacking m.

In my opinion, I love it.

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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vast cairn If you're like me and you don't use the hold attack, get the hammer upgrade that...

Best upgrade for spear imo

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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worldly vigil I play mouse/keyboard.. you have to press two buttons to move most of the time l...

My hands get so tired playing mouse and keyboard lololol.

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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worldly vigil I play mouse/keyboard.. you have to press two buttons to move most of the time l...

As a switch player that feels unbearable

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:54 AM

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quick thorn Best upgrade for spear imo

It really is. I love being able to just hold it down and dash all over the place.

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 6:55 AM

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it's really not that bad

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:55 AM

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True, but I just feel like I have zero control with controller

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:55 AM

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vast cairn It really is. I love being able to just hold it down and dash all over the place...

Combine it with the 3 spear attack buff and it’s great

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:55 AM

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worldly vigil True, but I just feel like I have zero control with controller

I feel like the switch is smoother

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It with the 3 spear buff just melts enemies

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:55 AM

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quick thorn Combine it with the 3 spear attack buff and it’s great

I got lucky when I was at the end and switched out one of my hammer upgrades for two. I got furry shot AND triple jab.

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It was legendary.

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:56 AM

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Makes butterfly balls pathetic

quick thorn Jan 12, 2021, 6:56 AM

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vast cairn I got lucky when I was at the end and switched out one of my hammer upgrades for...

I wish I had your luck

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Sometime I wanna do a cast only run

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Seems fun

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 6:57 AM

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God, I only cast when I get a good one.

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 6:57 AM

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I think the more experience you get, the more you'll start to use all your abilities every run, cast included

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:57 AM

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quick thorn Sometime I wanna do a cast only run

Try a build with hunting blades sometime

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 6:58 AM

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if you are not using a cast build, switch to infernal soul

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use the cast as a priv status initiator

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:58 AM

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whats the best keepsake

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:58 AM

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empty depot whats the best keepsake

yes

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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^ KEKW

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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worldly vigil yes

what

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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It depends on what you are going for.. There isn't a single best

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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There is no "best" keepsake, at least at the start of a run, you want to take a keepsake which will benefit your weapon/build

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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ok

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and how do ı get them

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 6:59 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/81pC4bV.png

Imgur

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by giving nectar to everyone you see

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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oh

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ok

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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For the beginning tho, I would recommend skelly or cerebus

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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thats what nectar does

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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Some keepsakes are better than others though

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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vast cairn God, I only cast when I get a good one.

blood boil gives 50% damage increase when you lodge someone with cast, use your cast

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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They help to not die so fast when you don't have very many mirror upgrades

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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polar smelt blood boil gives 50% damage increase when you lodge someone with cast, use your ...

It's not that I do it on purpose, I just forget like I do with my special.

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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But usually slap on a boon keepsake early on for a build

empty depot Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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ı will get them

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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I need to find a way to remember.

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 7:00 AM

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And then put on the collar or the tooth on the last stage

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:01 AM

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And also stop pressing 1 when I'm trying to Q. -.-

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:01 AM

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vast cairn And also stop pressing 1 when I'm trying to Q. -.-

give a macro to bind both 1 and Q to the same action

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taps head

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 7:01 AM

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Just realized that blood boil is like the final bosses cast

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:01 AM

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yee

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A lightning rod cast, to be specific.

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:02 AM

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99% of the time I only use cast on final bosses

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 7:02 AM

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sly vigil give a macro to bind both 1 and Q to the same action

But... ||companion||

civic blaze Jan 12, 2021, 7:03 AM

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This game is begging for dlcs

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Please supergiant

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:03 AM

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tilde ~

uneven ledge Jan 12, 2021, 7:05 AM

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farming dlc when

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:05 AM

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accidentally pressing 1 instead of Q oh no

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:06 AM

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drowsy plover *accidentally pressing 1 instead of Q* oh no

@old escarp Witnessed me dying over it twice... I did it twice in the same run.

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I wanted to cry.

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Dying as in of laughter, not actual death in the game.

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Oh ok

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Although, it did mess with my run...

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A lot...

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Gardening dlc when

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Yeah.. I know. Especially when you have limited tries

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Mind the spoilers in new players channel

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:08 AM

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sometimes I wish I'm new again

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Yes. Let us take care of ||mom's plants||

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:08 AM

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I want a ||bouldy|| dlc

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:08 AM

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I like being new.

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I'm smol babe, discovering new things.

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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I feel like I'm still new and have no idea what I'm doing

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Zag is tiny

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compared to most stuff in the game

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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drowsy plover I feel like I'm still new and have no idea what I'm doing

I'm going to always feel like this.

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Dude is smol boi

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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sly vigil compared to most stuff in the game

HE REALLY IS— SOBS.

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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I think back in EA

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He was also blurry

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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I look at him and go smol.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Hades is like 2-3 zags lol

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:09 AM

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smol and blurry

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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sleek axle Hades is like 2-3 zags lol

More like five.

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Hades is a god tho..

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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So is Zag

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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gods are big

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Zag is a god too

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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I want to cosplay,,, Zagreus. Get the skin suit and everything for the chest.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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If he was mortal he'd already be dead

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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I will do it one day.

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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wait true

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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How tall do you think Zag is

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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He has a few centuries ahead to grow. Or maybe he will always be small

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Ahhh, New player hopes.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:10 AM

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Zag is probably 5'8 or something

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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drowsy plover He has a few centuries ahead to grow. Or maybe he will always be small

I HOPE HE NEVER GROWS.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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And everyone else is just a behemoth

worldly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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for some reason I forgot ||mom is a god||

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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sleek axle Zag is probably 5'8 or something

Yeah, also same

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Wait I want to know canon heights so bad—

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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vast cairn I HOPE HE NEVER GROWS.

Me too tbh, it's kind of cute

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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drowsy plover Me too tbh, it's kind of cute

So cute. 😭

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Which means that meg is 6 feet tall

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Meg is a head taller than Zag xD

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Is Thanatos taller than Zag? That's the question.

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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I think Than is short too

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Most likely yeah

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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I hope he is taller than Zag.

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Dude just hovers to hide this height

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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SNCNSHD HAHA.

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Makes him tall in fictions.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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If zag is 5'8 how tall is hades

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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THIS is why I love being a new player. It's so fun to think about these things.

drowsy plover Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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My headcanon is that Artemis is around the same height as Zag

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:12 AM

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Based

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Artemis is so cute though.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:13 AM

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All the gods are kinda massive tho

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I'm pretty sure they can change whatever height they are since they're yknow

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Gods

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:14 AM

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I wonder.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:15 AM

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I'd think that most of the gods are probably the same height as hades

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Meg is like 190cm in my head canon

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:19 AM

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190cm
Who measures height in cm?

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:20 AM

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A lot of other countries do...

dense laurel Jan 12, 2021, 7:20 AM

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zag is referred as a half blood or godling in the game iirc

vast cairn Jan 12, 2021, 7:20 AM

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To me, Zagreus is shorter than everyone most likely. Special circumstances and all.

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:21 AM

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sly vigil > 190cm Who measures height in cm?

The rest of the world bud

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:22 AM

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I mean usually it's a combination of meter and cm

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Like 1m90

dense laurel Jan 12, 2021, 7:22 AM

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not rly, 100+ cm is the usual format

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 7:27 AM

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both in cm and m work

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 7:28 AM

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It's generally easiest to keep to one type of unit regardless of system

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Are you saying that 5'8 is a terrible, convoluted, and confusing way of measuring height?

old escarp Jan 12, 2021, 7:30 AM

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Yes

pastel cipher Jan 12, 2021, 7:31 AM

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absolutely

sleek axle Jan 12, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Precisely

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The imperial system was created by a mathematician on drugs

raven thorn Jan 12, 2021, 7:36 AM

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what do you mean? of course we should be using a base13 system and imperial is the closest we've got XD

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more on topic, any suggestions for making spear work?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 8:15 AM

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base spear - I used special spamming to get my clear with it
achilles (best aspect) - special + cast

hollow ledge Jan 12, 2021, 8:19 AM

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is there any way that I can give ||Hypnos the Minotaur's signature||?

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I already have ||the signature, how can I give it to Hypnos?||

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 8:20 AM

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I can't say for certain as I haven't done it but I assume ||after enough prompts with him (and enough nectar) he'll ask for it - you can't just drop it to him now, if that's what you're asking||

hollow ledge Jan 12, 2021, 8:21 AM

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I've given her 1 nectar and got asked for the ||signature|| at least 3 times after getting ||killed by Mino||

modern ivy Jan 12, 2021, 8:21 AM

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hollow ledge is there any way that I can give ||Hypnos the Minotaur's signature||?

||Yes you can, u first have to proc the signature voice line then meet minotaur without thesus||

hollow ledge Jan 12, 2021, 8:22 AM

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So basically now I just have to ||wait until she asks for it again||?

modern ivy Jan 12, 2021, 8:24 AM

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hollow ledge So basically now I just have to ||wait until she asks for it again||?

||Probably yea, hypno asked for multiple times before i could meet mino alone and proc the signature voice line from him||

torn heart Jan 12, 2021, 8:26 AM

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can someone give me a cool chaos build boons and hammers?

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chaos shield

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Doom Attack, Zeus Special

torn heart Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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ok

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Sudden Rush

torn heart Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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why is doom good?

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Don't take Dread Flight.

torn heart Jan 12, 2021, 8:27 AM

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ok

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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torn heart why is doom good?

Easy to apply Doom because Bull Rush has big AOE

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Bull Rush charge time coincides with Doom Proc

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Alternatively you can put Doom on Special but I don't like that

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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also both zeus + ares have vengeance boons, and a really good duo

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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That spot can be used for Zeus

modern ivy Jan 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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Hammer i chose the block +20% attack

torn heart Jan 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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ok

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 8:30 AM

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always a respectable one

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I think the absolute best for chaos is the skewer?

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whatever it is that turns you into a shielded bow

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:31 AM

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Charged Shot?

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 8:31 AM

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could be

full depot Jan 12, 2021, 8:44 AM

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oh no i missed the metric supremacy chat

sly vigil Jan 12, 2021, 8:47 AM

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lol

muted latch Jan 12, 2021, 8:50 AM

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there is no supremacy, it's the real truth

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 10:29 AM

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I generally find that most people who consider metric objectively superior to imperial don’t approach imperial correctly.

Imperial is supposed to be used for approximations of distance—it was never intended to be standardized, and therein lies the fault. A foot, for example, is the length of your foot or, alternatively, the length of your forearm; similar, an inch is the length of the middle phalanx of your index finger. One yard is the length of your outstretched arm measured from your sternum, and one fathom is your wingspan. An acre is the amount of land an ox can plow in a single day (this one in particular is less useful nowadays because nobody uses oxen to plow land, but it’s worth mentioning). While not necessarily imperial, I also like single and double paces, which as you can imagine, are the distances between the heel of one foot and the heel of the other foot after a single step in the case of a single pace and between the heel of one foot and the heel of that same foot after two steps in the case of a double pace. What is imperial, however, is a mile, which is 1,000 double paces or 2,000 single paces (or 5,000 feet if you’re more comfortable with that).

The fact of the matter is that, for the most part, you don’t need precise measurements in day-to-day life; additionally, kinesthetic units of measurement are immediately intuitive. “Meter”, for example, has no concrete definition or point of reference, and it is primarily defined by other units of measurement, which also have no concrete reference point. Absolute units of measurement like those found in the metric system and the standardized imperial system are abstract. I don’t care, for example, if the supermarket is 5,000 meters away if I don’t know how long a meter is; but it’s pretty easy for me to understand that a supermarket is 2,000 steps (or one mile) away, and that gives me a good idea of how strenuous or long it might take me to arrive on foot or by car.

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Anybody with a finger, a foot, an arm, and the ability to walk can use imperial, and, because humans have kinesthetic senses that make you aware of your body’s movement, size, and relative dimensions, imperial is very easy for anyone to understand and use even if they have no prior exposure to units of measurement.

The failure of imperial is precisely that it was standardized and taught as such when it was never meant to be that way. Imperial is a layman’s system of measurement—anyone can use it, anyone can explain it, and everyone understands what’s what.

In scientific contexts where precise measurements are necessary, metric is absolutely better, but that’s not the majority of daily measurements that the average person makes or encounters.

So, yeah. When people say that imperial is mathematically nonsensical, they’re right, but they’re approaching the entire system the wrong way. The human body does not experience things in discrete, mathematically precise units, so a measurement system that accounts for this is better for daily use (but not in scientific contexts where you need absolute precision).

This is also why I believe Fahrenheit is superior to Celsius. It’s 1.8 times as precise without getting into decimals, meaning that, for every one degree that Celsius changes, Fahrenheit changes nearly two. Additionally, it’s better attuned to human sensibilities; zero degrees is very cold, and one hundred degrees is very hot, but both are realistic temperatures that occur in the real world frequently. Celsius is designed for water, but Fahrenheit is designed for humans.

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Celsius would have a leg up on Fahrenheit if it were better suited for scientific contexts, but it’s not. The boiling and freezing points of water are not absolute and vary with pressure and other environmental variables, meaning that Kelvin is better suited for scientific contexts. However, Fahrenheit has an equivalent unit called the degree Rankine, which sets zero degrees at absolute zero and increases as Fahrenheit does from that point. In an ideal world, I think Fahrenheit would be used in day-to-day life while Rankine would be used in scientific contexts.

Sadly, that ship has sailed.

TL;DR: imperial is better than metric for daily life, but metric is necessary for scientific contexts, and standardizing imperial ruined it. Also, Fahrenheit and Rankine > Celsius and Kelvin.

molten blaze Jan 12, 2021, 10:32 AM

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wow

polar smelt Jan 12, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Hmm

silk swift Jan 12, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I am not reading that wall but

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Metric > Imperial

sand crag Jan 12, 2021, 10:38 AM

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😡

silk swift Jan 12, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Celsius is way better for daily isn't it?

pastel cipher Jan 12, 2021, 10:38 AM

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#off-topic-discussion please ^_^

silk swift Jan 12, 2021, 10:38 AM

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K

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 12:46 PM

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uhh

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how many rooms is tartarus?

stray terrace Jan 12, 2021, 12:46 PM

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14

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not including boss room

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Oh

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i just went to the like place where you can see tartarus and it said rooms done: 15

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i died on the boss

stray terrace Jan 12, 2021, 12:54 PM

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rooms done is all rooms in total, including further biomes

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whoops my mistake its 15 rooms

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Is this the right place for getting tips on the elysium boss?

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Yes

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You want to focus the Minotaur before you try to hit Theseus, when the Minotaur charges you hide behind poles so he crashes into them, and to dodge Theseuss spear attack stand behind poles so they can’t hit you, Euridyces keepsake helps a lot if you have it also

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:39 PM

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I'll give that a shot tonight, I hadn't even thought to use the acorn.
Ive been using skelly's tooth almost exclusively.

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Euridyces is better

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Blocks more damage in total

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:40 PM

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hi

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yup

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focus mino

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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True. I've gotten past them twice, but falter pretty quick in the next area.

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Those rats are no joke.

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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how many runs do u have

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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Yeah

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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i am very bad

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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The rays are tough

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Rats

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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they have big hp

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tho u can cure urself

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:41 PM

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I think I'm still under 50

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:42 PM

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do u use shield?

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Just keep improving on that elysium fight, it’ll come over time

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:42 PM

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I switch around between shield, spear and rail.

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:42 PM

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thats fine

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:43 PM

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All weapons work

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:43 PM

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just try to prioritize hammers

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like charged shot on shield

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Which god's boons are best in a shield centered build? Athena?

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Athenas are good, so is Zeus for the special and ares for all attacks

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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ares is gud for dps

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Ares is very good for shield

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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becuase u dont hit ppl very much

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like artemis is worse on shield

stray terrace Jan 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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impending doom + doom is great

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:45 PM

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vs a gun or bow

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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I read somewhere that dash-strike should be my bread and butter attack, any truth to that with shield?

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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i hate dash strike personally but...

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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I think that’s based on play style

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Ah

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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It’s up to you whether that works or not

cobalt patrol Jan 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

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im not the best at it

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:47 PM

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It’s very good on sword tho, I’ll say that

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:47 PM

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I like to do the dash to cancel the windup for sword special

solar panther Jan 12, 2021, 1:47 PM

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Yeah

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Oh god

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meg is pretty annoying

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Her projectiles are the absolute worst. I usually just dash back and forth between the waves and cross my fingers.

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 1:59 PM

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YEAH

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oops, caps

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well i died 3 times to her now

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im addicted

fringe moss Jan 12, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Anyone know how to get the sniper as an option to buy

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:07 PM

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You have to unlock them in succession

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With keys

harsh wedge Jan 12, 2021, 2:07 PM

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rats=0/10

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Keep playing, every answer in this game comes back to keep playing

fringe moss Jan 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Okay thanks

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Keep Dash Attacking in that case

harsh wedge Jan 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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If you know about the evil rat you know about the evil rat

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the plauged vermin

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Do not stay still in rat rooms. Pretend it's doom. You stay still you're dead

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You will enjoy lighting him over a bonfire when you get better

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He's never easy but he's one of the few bosses you can truly melt in seconds. No interrupts

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Also just gonna do this morning broadcast: zag shield is probably the best beginner weapon. Cheap, hits like a truck, mashable, adaptible. This is your rifle, this is your gun. Learn and love it

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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oh

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got closer

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half health on meg

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Good job

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Next time three quarters

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Do you have 2 dashes yet

harsh wedge Jan 12, 2021, 2:16 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hypnos-eyebrows-innuendo-gif-18838316

Tenor

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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fresh current Do you have 2 dashes yet

Wdym exactly?

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:17 PM

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When you get killed by something terribly embarrassing and hypnos wont say anything but he knows

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Can you dash twice in succession yes or no

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:18 PM

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no

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i can dash and then wait like 1 sec to dash again

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i almost have enough to buy it at the mirror tho

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i think its there..

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Yes

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That one

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Essential

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Prioritize

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A1

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Then death defiance

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:19 PM

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i need 2 more darkness to buy it haha

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Then extra health

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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fresh current Then death defiance

i have that, but 500 darkness is a lot

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Then “boiling blood”

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Those are the top ones off the top of my head

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:20 PM

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yeah i dont have enough keys yet

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to unlock those

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Stay on the treadmill greenhorn, things you unlock will increase your rate of acquisition

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EAIKP

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Every Answer Is Keep Playing

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you need defense first

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Then offense

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You mostly want purple stuff

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Especially when new, fill the page up purple before you understand what the game is really doing

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With respect to the mirror

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But what I have listed is most important off the top of my head, with dash at the top

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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the mirror is cool

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im using the spear rn

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i think its good

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Whatever suits you. I like to advise the shield because it has great damage potential and can be played well very brainlessly, which is great for new players learning the game and veterans wanting to focus on other aspects of their build alike

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Especially when it comes time to start upgrading the weapons themselves, the shield is great value to max out early because it is so cheap. There are other excellent one-blood wonders on the table too like hera and Poseidon sword

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But those are for particularly when your cast improves, which is also a mirror upgrade

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:28 PM

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fresh current Especially when it comes time to start upgrading the weapons themselves, the shi...

Let me be specific too since you may not have context, I’m referring to the Zag Aspect of the shield specifically, if you go looking

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 PM

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i did it!!

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i defeated meg!

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:32 PM

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well done!

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Just do yourself a favor and don’t spend your first 5 blood on the zag spear. I am sorry to tell you it is booty in the grand scheme. Good Zag aspects are sword (kinda) Bow (for some) Fists (definitely, even and especially! At high heat) and Gun (Put your hater blockers on zag rail is good)

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And Zagreus aspects are always the cheapest to unlock first when it comes time

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And at the top of the heap is s tier noob cannon zag shield

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Congratulations!!!

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Now get ready to meet lernie 😂

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:36 PM

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Wait

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if i die in Asphodel

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do i go all the way back to tartarus

alpine ridge Jan 12, 2021, 2:37 PM

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yep

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Welcome to the roguelike genre

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:39 PM

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oh god no

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well its obvious

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because im not doing well there at all

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Just keep at it you’ll improve

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Will meg be stronger now? i died

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Now you’ll get darkness for beating meg and be able to unlock more mirror upgrades

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Nope

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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rich cave Now you’ll get darkness for beating meg and be able to unlock more mirror upgrad...

oh thats great

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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I think you get like 50

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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what can i do with the titans blood?

alpine ridge Jan 12, 2021, 2:45 PM

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you use it to upgrade your weapons

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you'll see it when you unlock all of them

craggy sundial Jan 12, 2021, 2:50 PM

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hm

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so i need to unlock every weapon?

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:51 PM

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yeah

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its not too hard

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dw

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just need to focus on keys

bitter cairn Jan 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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Is titan blood only a reward the first time you beat a boss with a new weapon?

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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that's probably your only way of getting it for now

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but dw

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you'll be able to get it more and from other things

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Keys and darkness first

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Blood is a great benefit but keys and darkness first

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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are you saying to unlock mirror upgrades

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first

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or

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Blood can be obtained also at the shop at the final stage of the game

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Yes

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Mirror

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Weapons

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All of the above

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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no get weapons first

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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True

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I would get at least to shield

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But if I had to do everything all over again I would be hellbent on getting two dashes first then every single other thing after

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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well if you get all the weapons first you can try them all out and then focus on the mirror and youll have more darkenss saved up by then to spend on the mirror

rich cave Jan 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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If you get all the weapons first you can use titan blood

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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When I say every other thing I mean anything else

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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i guess for a new player its better to get weapons first but if you know the game before

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Two dashes is the difference between Hades and Not Hades to me

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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you could probably go for some mirror stuff if you dont need to go far to unlock the weapons you need

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two dashes is very good i agree

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:03 PM

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So that would be my priority

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Everything else has some flexibility after

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Oh thats good to know @rich cave

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Point for unlock all weapons house

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5 blood can buy you some top tier aspects that will carry you for the rest of your hades experience if you so choose

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:05 PM

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point is if youre new unlock all the weapons first

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Which you will generally already have by the time you get enough keys to get 5 blood too

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I would say dash first - weapons to at least the shield - maybe one or two unlocks of mirror to start dumping darkness into good and useful upgrades for new players like health and defense and offense - the rest of the weapons

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Which sounds like a lot but is a pretty small progression chain

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You will spend as many keys on valuable mirror upgrades for your early game as you will unlocking some of the weapons past the shield, some of which aren’t that good off the bat frankly

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Like bow kinda booty when you first get it unless you really, really like the bow

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And it costs 4 keys iirc

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So that is my recommendation. Weapons are great but some early mirror upgrades are your literal bedrock so its never a bad idea to get a couple going early

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And as always, take all purple mirror upgrades until you understand the mirror and its interactions more deeply

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And even then it will still mostly be purple for a good long while

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:15 PM

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i think the only section of the mirror i consistnetly use green more often than not these days is the bottom third or so

median bane Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 PM

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After 6 hours had my first complete run today 🙂

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Niceee

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Gj mate

fresh current Jan 12, 2021, 3:16 PM

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👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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So I chose hell-mode when I first started the game, just beat the first run

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Hell-mode is nothing but just 5 minimum heat right?

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Ooo gj

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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yeah

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and no god mode

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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fluid yoke and no god mode

as in invincible frames?

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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no

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no god mode

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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What is god mode

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM

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its a gameplay thing

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Its a thingy h can turn on

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In settings

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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you can put on gives you 20 percent damage resist and up to 80

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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To give you damage resistance

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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increases by 2 percent per death with it

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Which stacks up to 80 percent

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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so its not in hell mode

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Oh lol I guess I didn't even get to learn that because of hell-mode

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that's fun

versed scarab Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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How do you even turn on god mode?

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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settings

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Strangely enough the first clear was with absolute-damage oriented fists

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM

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gameplay iirc?

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Thought it'll be the bow or shield for sure

fluid yoke Jan 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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one of the top settings

reef bough Jan 12, 2021, 3:27 PM

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So the rest of the game is just raising heat if needed to get new rewards

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and clear the game while getting the rewards right?

flint pulsar Jan 12, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Mmm

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No

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But I dont wanna spoil ;)