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i want that stupid achievement
fair fair
i need 16 more keepsakes to max rank
you'll get there soon enough donkey
just pop them up in styx
and do all tunnels
nah ill just run them the whole run
thats ok too
wait thats actually smart
well yes, thats the most rooms
👀
trading and cosmetics
well titles
and flexing if you livestream
im still new player ;)
it's time to haunt the #h1-high-heat-strategies
aggy kicked me out of here for asking a ||heat 16|| question so donkey's a vet now if you ask me
they didn't actually, but they told me I should ask in a different channel 
yeeeeeeeee
and im still using sea storm on fists cuz im built different
I just finished a seastorm run... where I didn't get seastorm 
donkey graduated like 32 times
shh
|| With the aspect of hera bow, say you got festive fog on your cast, do you benefit from loading multiple cast into the bow? Or should you generally just load 1? ||
What are y'all doing here post 1st clear xD
i dont know
cause I still feel like a new player 
its cozy here
yee
Me
this channel doesnt tend to get raided by sarcastic fox
donkey, I need help 
https://i.imgur.com/ZtLnWqi.png
nah you just try to funny
experiment 👀
time to come to your house again i see
which ones?
hidden sword, achilles, chaos, chiron, demeter & eris
You need to use both. Don't load x3 to kill Numbskulls. Don't load x1 to kill boss. Sorry if this sou like a cop out answer but it's true.
@winged oriole i may hate it, you may love it, it really cmes down to you.... the only thing i know for sure is if you count on non-sticky casts (casts that dont deposit in the enemies) go for the green cast mirror aspect, else other way round
here's the problem donkey, I don't know
what else is fun/viable, hestia & lucifer also sound interesting
everything is viable
I should probably work on the hiddens as it's a fate list thingy
i had a run with festive fog/chill duo cast, it was pretty wild. So I kinda love it
you need to reach the ||surface|| with all of them so yeah
Honestly to me, it settles eventually. I won't play the game as intensively as before but I won't stop playing it either. One or two runs every other day is how I do it.
Certain prompts in the game are leading me to believe that you can romance ||Thanatos||, is that correct?
I go back to work tomorrow so i'll probably slow down a bit
wait... really?

one of the three people
yes technically two for those who know but you get my point
wait, so is Zagreus ||bi||?
yes
by definition I guess, but I don't think that's the intention of SGG
But... ||isn't thanatos a brother (non-blood-related sure, but still)||
no
he's not? am i missing something?
As in, ||Thanatos is Nyx's child if im not wrong, which makes him Zag's brother kinda||
It's hazy.
hi
Zag is "adopted," but not even that because Hades is present.
hi
And to be honest, in greek mythlogy, lots of gods have strange relations like that... (even stranger than that)
well ||zagreus does fancy both Megeara and Thanatos, which do make him bisexual||
you learn this like 3 runs in
^
only end boss onward stuff is deemed spoiler here unless you come before your first run :)
he also ||fancies Dusa, cant forget about her||
but?
maybe someone didnt played the game
I mean it's the basic premise of the game.
yep
then what are you doing in here
actually
this is a hades specified channel
-skelly, probably
skelly is kinda bad
change "buddy" to "boyo" pls
well in reality the only person that can tell you if zagreus is ||bi|| is the person that wrote zagreus' script
he thinks about his payments
Skelly scammed me out of ||5 titan blood||, frick him
@shrewd edge i changed the message, is it better now?
:)
me: goes ||demeter|| keepsake to try get a build for a change
game: nah mate, not a single boon for you except that keepsake
||granny|| really dun like you huh
yup
does she like anyone? xd
||her daughter||, duh
the only one
and her little sprout after the epilogue
well she talked about ||being friendly with helios||
but then just going goddess child rampage
i understand why nobody and not even the mortals liked her much
yeah
(sorry ||gran||)
they were too busy worshiping zeus
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
make me spit out my sadness towards sgg missing something do ya
a good update would be adding the rest of the Olympian gods
but what for
hades would be so sick if it had DLC
hades is perfect for dlc
yeah
I mean, it's already perfect
dlc friendliest from the 3 games i have played
true
it's just perfectly expandable
but i think it really could do wonders with dlc
Or a really sick steam workshop mod
Something like Antibirth
imagine a gardening dlc with insert music from ||mom|| here
well we have the nexus gang
sgg said they wouldnt implement the steam workshop stuff which is fine, they are fine with everything else ad still allow mods so ye
they could add a dlc where you fight the ||titans||
I wonder what they are up to now
||it's [in] the blood|| intensifies
Swimming in cash I guess
xd
they absolutely deserve it
yeah
They have my $20
5$?
Yeah
ehmm the fountain after tartarus has disappeared xd im stuck
what
Lol
its just not there
uhm
?
Send a pic
lmao
For funsies
exit and come back?
Hades is 20 USD? I spent 13 lmao
it's base price 20 ye
$25
but sales are nice
Sale $20
i bought it full price and would buy it again
do it
Imagine being in Europe
imagine not being in europe
must be nice
it isnt, dont worry
i do not own a nintendo switch so i cannot play hades from the lazy comfort of my bed 😔
Same
im so glad i got it on pc and switch
Hades for Android when?
Smol boi
tiniest boyo
i bet if skellington would stand straight he'd be taller
In EA Zag model is also blurry
HAHAHA WTF IS THAT
its just gone
LMAO
CHAOS DOESNT APPROVE OF YOU GOING FURTHER MY FRIEND
incredible
Quit out and reload?
^
chaos didnt approve of my sub 3 min clear in tartarus
omg look at the attendance rate today, one mod, no bot, no swan, 3 sgg lads
no more healing
no progress for you boyo
hahahahaha
I'm the law here
maybe still stand behind fountain and press interact as hard as you can
Fear me
how on earth are you getting out of tartarus in 3 mins 
Free rooms and go fast
apparently
sub 5 is almost guaranteed
i almost always get sub 3 in tartarus
i havent had a 6+ tart in a long time
I'll have a look at my clear time next time I run it
tiny zag
i just realized
you would think the vases are up to like knee height
most mortal shades are tinier than zag
||demeter demeter fists are not good||
how the hell are broker and house contractor and chef so TALL
Just get artic blast bro
how is everybody so tall
i am having a tiny tall crisis now
its kinda funny how if you search up Zagreus' father on google it says zeus, if you search up Zeus' sons Zagreus doesnt pop up, and then if you search Hades' son Zagreus comes up, Google do be smoking crack
well zagreus is one of the less important zeus spawns since he isnt a hero or really interesting to mortals at all
hades immediately adopted him, the end
Search for Zeus' son and you get the world population 
well it might be because people did believe that ||Zagreus and Dionysus were the same god||
||and Dionysus is one of Zeus' sons||
it does say ||Zagreus "The first born Dionysus"||
so the thing ||Dionysus and Zagreus said to Oprheus about them being the same person, isnt wrong really||
well that was in very ancient greek days, i think the era was called mycenaean
and zag did pretty much the same as than and hades and a flipping RIVER so who needs to talk about him anyways
true
yeah
how is than the depressed one and not zag
you mean the steam meme awards?
yeah
it's the meme awards
well this technically has nothing with hades to do
csgo got most loved
this is more #off-topic-discussion
tru
it's probably a mix of learning/practice as well as the weapon itself
but there's something amusing to me
that what previous was my best weapon is now my slowest

I doubt I could handle the heats on other weapons like I do chaos shield, but it's an amusement
:o
What's a good hidden shield build? I was thinking start dio for trippy fog and going for that zeus duo boon
sounds like a great idea honestly but i think #h1-builds-and-combat would offer better insight since this is the newbies channel o.o
Most of em are pretty expensive so only get em if youve done all you can with the stuff already
10 diamonds aint that bad
i can say the ||woodland|| one is so worth it
As for which ones the nicest it's down to personal preference really
but i simp for artemis
TRUE
so i am biased af
I would do that one but nectar is the one thing I use up all the time
||stygian|| (the blood one) is also beautiful
i think you can see all of them in #h1-victory-boasting if ya wanna get a better look
Is ||infernal|| good? that's the most affordable one
since diamonds seem to be useless right now
go for it :)
you will have more than enough of every ressource in the end anyways
done all the music and house of hades items and contracts?
I've done the work orders yes
It doesnt seem like I'd need to buy anything else with diamonds
if you have most/all relationships maxed and dont care for music then yeah
but for the music: there might be a secret somewhere in there so yeah, might wanna invest in it still
I'm on ||9|| clears
I might wanna do work...or i could just ||beat the game right now||
beat the game, get serotonin, do work faster, beat the game again
Also, i only care about one relationship...
I heard some people actually cried at the ending, wonder what's gonna happen
well it's fantastic
I almost did
I know one story beat
i forsure did
||Persephone has to end up in the house||, i've been spoiled that much
darren is too good
i don't know much else other than that
yep, time to cheese with ||chaos shield max||
ooooooo
I think i can get clears with ||2 heat|| fairly easily using ||chaos shield and zag fists||
hestia is also pretty good
:o
oops
?
forgot to tag spoiler, that's all
Yeah you really shouldn't be talking about this in the new players chat lol
sry, mah baed
well you noticed, thats all ya need here
the 3 main aspects aren't spoilers
ah finally my fountain has returned
how
yes
Anyone have tips for getting Titan blood?
I’ve already killed the furies with every weapon and I’m out of Titans blood
every final boss kill is also a titan blood 
I can’t even beat Theseus yet
Just a matter of learning and practice then 
Sad
I once got some from the lounge merchant
But I misclicked and spent it on ambrosia
Hi guys,is there a page that let you see the character stats during the run? for example showing your dps etc....
Well you can see the damage you're doing as a number when you attack an enemy. But seeing stats about a specific run in a run nope as far as I know.
hey, I'm starting to stockpile nectar after getting all keepsakes, who should I start giving it to? I'm doing sisyphus but I have a lot
I mean that's up to you, but I would suggest you check out this link as it'll tell you about a pretty neat mechanic which you can use ||https://hades.gamepedia.com/Companions||
Is there a button to dump all the darkness into one attribute? respecing with 12k darkness blows
@polar smelt I know about it, is why I'm doing sisyphus - but what are the benefits of giving nectar to characters not related to that mechanic?
various side-story/quest stuff which you can see in the fated lists
ok cool, so nothing that makes zagreus more powerful
not that I'm aware of
i mean there's heart of stone but it's not exactly a permanent upgrade
There is not sadly
question: if you've this far played on switch and then cross save data transfer to PC, do you unlock the achievements you've already done on the switch save?
Are you on pc or switch? On the latter, or if playing PC with a controller, you should be able to just hold down the button.
I defeated ||Hades|| with fists and unlocked ||Pact of Punishment||. Now if I start the run with shield, there is a ? at ||Styx|| bounty for 0 Heat. Does that mean I need to defeated ||Hades|| with shield with 0 Heat to unlock that bounty or if I put now 1 Heat and defeat ||Hades|| will I receive bounty for Heat 0 and Heat 1?
each ||heat|| is individual to each weapon and you cant jump tiers, so you wont lose them
if your shield has a bounty at 0 that means you havent cleared it at base difficulty so do that first
@muted latch thank you 🙂
How do the shackles work? You are sometimes forced to take a boon, are you not? I really want to try them out
Yep, that’s intended. Basically while you have it on, your Attack, Special, and Cast have +100% added to their damage while un booned. So generally when offered boons, you take ones that don’t affect them
so if i pick up a special boon, do i loose the attack power?
even if i do not use the special?
no it hink
No just the Special will lose the 100%
The attack and Cast will still have +100%
nice thanks!
also if i have something like ares general purpose boon that gives me more dps after a kill. does that take the 100% ? :D
sorry i am just so confused
or hermes attack speed boonb
any boons that have names that don't end in "strike" or "flourish" should be just fine if you're using shackles
hermes' boons are a total exception to this rule
curse of pain and curse of agony are the same things are strike and fluorish so don't take those
@fickle kelp
hey guys any builds on aspect of chaos other than Doom build?
What happens when you have two light of ixions? Do they both get used at the same time or will I get two chaos gates?
You get one gate right after the other
which weapon?
Any tips on getting that blood stuff used for ||upgrading weapons ||
You kill furies and ||Hades ||with different weapons and increasing ||heat||. That's it. There's no tricks to farming them.
complete prophecies
that reward you with it
also you need to spoiler || hades||
you can get it in bulk from a few prophecies
much more than 2 per run
you can also ||get blood from legendary fish in Greece, and also the shop in Styx||
Any easy || things to increase while using heat? Like what are easy ones that I should increase ||
||Tight Deadline 1 (or 2 if you're consistent in clearing in under 28 minutes), Extreme Measures 1 and 2, Damage Control if you're using a fast hitting weapon, Middle Management, and Convenience Fee are all reasonable options for getting through the early (single digit) heat levels||
||I actually find MM really spooky in aspho||
||benefits package is nice 2 heat||
and that resource guy that lets you trade gems for Titans blood in a convoluted chain of trades
well if you get
I always run ||TD1|| because it does not affect my playstyle at all
15 keys through gems then get lucky enough for the 15 keys fora titan blood page
similarly, ||EM1|| because even if I do die to the zone 1 boss, there's plenty of opportunity to get my DD back later
yeah i run || td1 most of the time these days because i havent gone above 36 minutes since like my first few clears so i have plenty time and it helps me improve speed wise ||
I'm thinking of turning on ||TD2|| but I'm more on the fence about that one
I have never run time before
Taking into account they're still new, I wouldn't put them through trading for titans blood and buying Charon's stock(which isn't guaranteed).
and can consistenylg ot under it
|| could probably do td2 rn but dont really need to i dont think with the heat levles im at ||
I might try it if I am using spear
||Armoured enemies in Asphodel are hard! I honestly find them tougher to deal with than the elites in Elysium.||
they are tough
Check the Wretched Broker every single run. Whenever he offers to sell Titan Blood in exchange for Keys, take it. It's the best deal he offers.
(It appears at the bottom of the list and has a little hourglass like icon next to it)
Shield bois in Elysium are scariest foe in game
Other than that, it's just ||repeated runs with higher and higher heat levels||. Or trading in Ambrosia, but you'll need that later (I don't actually know which you need more of).
yeah make sure to focus on prophecies though
and punishes u really hard for messing up
jsut got 23 titan blood in the past hour or so from prophecies
She's not too bad if you unfocus and keep an eye on where the danger zones are spawning. I find most of the other gods worse; especially Artemis, Dionysus, and Poseidon.
allowed me alot of upgrading
i mean
i think her and aphrodite are the hardest ones for me
Really? I find Artemis to be the easiest, personally
Dio, Ares, and Aphro probably hit me the most
so i think picking against athena generally is a good idea
depending on the other god
Oh, I'd forgotten about those! I have a few that are kind of in easy reach, especially if I hunt down miniboss rooms in the last area.
she tends to make elysium souls invincible though, and then they respawn
yeah that happened quite often to me too
That's true. I'll always pick against Athena outside of Elysium, though.
I find Ares shots pretty easy to avoid too.
lh
Poseidon kicks my ass every time.
true about athena
i guess just focus on thw souls
which i tend to do anwyay unless im impeded
Aphrodite is bad too but at least you can sort of outrun her shots.
You're just screwed if they hit you
posiden and aphro are annoying
esp if ur running ruthless reflexes
then they become reallly really annoting
or running rail
Any advice for the final boss?
Just beaten Thanatos by 27 kills
from what I heard, the best option of dodging is to dash through him
Try just dodging around to get full i frames from your dashes. You'll see through his attack patterns soon enough.
Scope out your competition and take him out accordingly.
i robbed thanatos a few runs ago
20-0
i didnt manage to screenshot it
oh well
it happened
Im about to ||fight charon|| any tips?
what region are you in
Tartarus
Oh ok will it stay in his shop or something?
elysium is the recommended place to fight him
yeah you can still fight him in later shops
It's not guaranteed to show up, though
yeah but im just recommending for the best chances against him
So it might dissapear in the next shop if i leave?
Correct
How do you fight ||Charon (that's the merchant right?) ||
||theres a money bag and it says borrow||
You have to have ||cleared at least one run, and then the option has a chance to appear in mid-shops||
How do I give hades nectar? Since I got the credits I haven’t been given a chance
If you already give it to him im pretty sure you cant do it again
you just need to wait
i think
|| for the right conversation so hi slocked heart can unlock ||
Yes, but also please spoiler-tag the final boss in the #h1-for-new-players channel
thats not eh boss
I unlocked the heart but I still can’t do it
just a person you can give nectar
It’s been about 10 runs since then
Alright then
spoiler
bro how am I so bad at this game lmao
dw thats normal
thx, yeah its just sad tbh
what's the use of cast? is it worth using without boons that buff it?
it doesn't feel very strong
its worth it
You'll get better, some parts feel almost impossible starting out but then you improve. 😄
makes sense
yeah the boss of the 3rd biome absolutely destroys me, and I was only able to barely make it there once
Yo @urban fox the ||charon fight|| is spoilers in this channel, please use spoiler tags 
I slept on cast for the longest time, keep in mind the mirror upgrade which provides 50% dmg increase when a foe is lodged with one
oh okay that's really good lol, I need to unlock that
I prefer casts like ||Demeter||/Aries/Dionysus that have a field effect combined with Stygian Soul.
and the right aspect
hunting blades is a really fun way to use casts
its artemis + aries blade cast
The only duo boon I'm missing is Zeus/||Demeter||
yeah but i feel like those wouldn't be as good with the 50% dmg mirror thing, doesn't the cast not lodge itself in enemies when it has field boons?
yeah it doesnt
Yeah, but it's up to you what build you make
but you can get some veyr good duo boons
and certain casts just don't use that mirror upgrade
but it doesn tmake them them bad just different
Why haven't I seen any duo boons yet btw? Do you have to clear a condition to see them or am I just getting unlucky
yeah
plus they're rarer without a certain mirror upgrade thst increase duo boon chances
You cant get a duo that harnesses trippy shot if you dont have trippy shot
what do u guys think is the better option between greater reflex and ruthless reflex
The extra dash
Yup extra dash is very useful ability
i prefer greater reflex
For me i enjoy using the extra dash alot in hades. It a bit like hyper light drifter dash move but a lot faster

I just need the movement for when i dash into traps
oh yeah true lol
I dislike him because he slows my runs down 
When tf do we see ||thanatos||, I still haven't seen him lol
the timer is paused on his chambers
elysium
i think
?
the first time you can meet him
Is he random chance?
yeah
Oh ok
Yeah, it's elysium ||the first time you meet than||
Anyway I been beating meg and her fury sister very often in my runs nowadays
How many runs did it take for your first ||escape?||
@fluid yoke he absolutely doesnt pause your ingame timer (like survival rooms do)
22
23 fa me
He does Michael, during the encounter the timer stops running
How many for your second ?

There's a reason why speedrunners want than rooms in igt categories
I swear I heard the AGQ folks mention they dont want him or barge
That's because 3 weapons is an RTA category
Ahh fair
Barge is pretty slow just in general compared to witches circle and power couple
I've still not escaped after 26 runs I think?
but on my last run I got to the ||second stage of the|| final boss fight
yeah im around there too, haven't seen the 4th biome yet
this is pretty much my first roguelike tbf
the first time I got into the 4th biome I also got to the final boss lol
roguelikes/roguelites are fun
they're my favorite type of game tbh
yeah i thought i wouldnt like them too much but ror2 and hades changed my mind
From memory it was 46/47 escapr attempts before I won my first run
But honestly the number of escape attempts to get your first win isn't really relevent if you're having fun with the game
yeah dont beat yourself up for doing bad
as you play youll probbaly get farther and get more upgrades and know what works more
That's the beauty of hades, its a single player game, there's no competition, if you clear it on your 10th or 100th, as long as you had fun and enjoyed the experience, then its worth it 
This game is such a blast!
I have been playing non-stop for the past 48 hours- ever since I bought it. I swear. XD
don't feel bad about using help and stuff and god mode
All of them!

any favourites
i always forget to reload with the rail lmao
I normally use the one that gives the %20 darkness bonus. So I haven't had a chance to use the punching gloves.
Same.
I would say that the Spear and the Bow and Arrow are my favorite so far.
(I like the range for bosses.)
the spear is my fave
shield tho 😳
What about everyone's favorite NPCs?
Than 🥰
orpheus is epic
Meg best waifu
I like Hades. XD His character design is awesome.
achilles is epic
^
Hmm, okay.
theseus is easier to deal with without asterius
Shields been my most consistent, havent dropped a run with it yet, just got a bit stale for me
also if you can get a good damage god call
I did attempt to go after Asterius first in the last run I had.
Ummm, can I just pick the entire cast 😅
I'm not as good with the sword as I am with other weapons though.
its an instant kill aloot of the time depending on the call
I only had one death defy when I went in and about half health, too.
My last run was pretty bad. XD
Amusingly enough Chloe as confidence has grown i actually kill theseus first now so he can stop spearing me
If you get asterius as a miniboss is he absent in the final boss fight?
Fair. XD
Nah just lower hp
oh
yeah i end up accidentally killing theseus alot of the time
now
like before asterius
He's only 25% lower hp, iirc
Are there any status affects that are better for the Elysium boss fight than others?
The room isn't big enough to fit Thesius' ego tbh

Facts.
What do u guys think is the best ||companion||
||companions|| are spoilers in this channel as an fyi 
gotcha
Ty 
I use ||meg,||
- Waifu
- 2500 damage
- ||thanatos summons a bit slower I've heard||
yeah it is slower
||its more damage but i find easier to aim outside of the fact its harder to hit more moving enemies with||
how is ||skelly's|| and ||dusa's|| ones?
Yes
You can, ||the hades fight|| is also a spoiler in this channel as an fyi @quartz condor
I guess the crazy damage from the two you guys were talking about is much better
oh dang, sorry! and thank you
|| skellys summons like a 250 health distraction enemies will attack ||
dunno why but I dont take much damage from the hydra ever, but get destroyed by Tisiphone every time lol
Don't sleep on skelly tooth
Trust me you're not alone
yeah i find alecto harder than th ehydra tbh
for the stubborn defiance prophecy
for whatever reason I never have trouble with the saws
Beat hydra first time, still lose DD on tis occasionally, especially on ||em1||
the acorn is just as good as the tooth for the final boss
I actually have the hardest time with alecto
even using melee weapons
From easiest to hardest, I think tis, meg, alecto
wow everyone talking about having a hard time with alecto meanwhile I take crazy damage from tis lol
Those beyblades of death can be hard to dodge
i think tis is hard
With everything its just a pattern
tis is the easiest for sure
Need to recognize when shes attempting to stun
tisiphone has a fiarly predictable pattern and cant really shred you
especially if you have a melee
i would still say i find meg easier though
^
for me its alecto > meg > tis
due to less health
What version of Hades are we on, 1.0?
1.37?
1.37+
Iirc 1.37xx
Are buffs/nerfs to keepsakes/boons frequent or is it only to fix bugs?
Unless there's patch notes it's a bug/tech fix
I assume as the game is single player they wouldn't look at balance changes often
Not like theres a meta in a moba
Plus from what ive seen the game is incredibly balanced for the most part
Balance was a huge part of early access and post-launch, but at this point the game pretty much is set
True
i think its pretty balanced yeah
18s off from sub-20 ughhhh
im having a hard time figuring out whch boons i should get for the weapons
I think some of that might depend on how you like to play the game.
any weapons specifclaly
#h1-builds-and-combat might have a few suggestions for you though- unless you're trying to avoid spoilers. :)
theres like god boons that are good
with specific weapons broadly
like zeus with the rail
i like shield and spear
if you have the upgraded codex ingame you can always look up the boons available to think about builds
yee
so you can check what you need for a duo boon or legendayr mid run if youre tryin to get it
I got mt first duo today ^.^ of Poseidon n Artemis shot
probably not
you need specific boons for them
but it is alot luck
theres a mirror upgrade that can help with that though
my first duo boon was
dionysus + poseidon
same i think
of course i died to theseus and asterius immediatly after
so i couldnt use it
but
i think at least i did
what do the people give u once you fill up the ❤️ bar?
The furthest I've gotten so far is bone hydra
and some people give extra stuff depending how high you go
I beat Theseus and Asterius and made it all the way to the final boss afterwards today, but I did die there, unfortunately. I once again beat Theseus first—I’m almost sure he has less HP. His Ares call was way worse than the Artemis one, though.
Also, I like Demeter’s cast. Having three beams going all at once is great. Chill isn’t a good status effect, though, from what I can tell. I got rid of my chill revenge pretty fast. I kinda wish you could just take a set amount of obols from a god rather than taking a boon so that, if you don’t like any of the three boons that are offered to you, you could just take the obols in its place rather than having to wait until the end of the area.
yep he has less hp than asterius
||also chill can be quite good if you go into demeter properly||
||Yes.||
hmm i have not beaten them yet
When I play I just hope I get lucky and I also dont know how to build so thats why I can never beat them...
only got to them 2 times
you just experiment
I just go "oh that sounds cool" lol
My favorite status effects are weak, especially with the boon that makes them more vulnerable to damage; hangover; and exposed.
killing freeze is great
look at the boons there are, think for yourself "heyi could try dio on dash and athena on attack, lets see if thats good"
yeah
Nope.
i lost dd to furies once
only higher difficulty
restarted since that run would have flopped with th edifficulty of everything
yeeeee
So far my main goal is getting past Meg w/o using my dd
I got rlly close my last time
I’d probably like chill a lot better if reaching the maximum stacks froze enemies altogether like the petrified status.
how many hours do u have in your run @hazy socket
Uhhhhhh I left it running for a while w/o playing it so it's not accurate
But according to my scrying pool I've tried 11 times
that would be problematic since the status curse stays 8secs
True.
you could maybe force 10stack to be like gorgon petrification
like i think if you can get through meg with enough health you can go through asphodel
and getting past asphodel is quicker than getting past meg for the first time
if that makes sense
at least from my experience
asphodel has the least amount of chambers
so you have to fight way less than you have to for tart and it's pretty speedy so you really come far after beating tart
yee yee I almost beat the Asphodel boss on my first try
Granted I had Athena dash, but I had already used my dd on Meg so it felt p good
the place I lose the most lives early is probably in the 2nd sage
yeah i think
the hardset part of asphodel is the meat of it and getting used to it and the magma
I always use Athena’s keepsake first to try to guarantee a deflecting dash or, if I’m using the Shield, attack.
I think ive almost mastred the bone hydr
athena dash is a crutch, eventually you should play without it
with the bone hydra your main source of damage is probably going to be from the slams
from experience
it is great thats why its a crutch
so if you can work around those
it aint a crutch as much as athena call or legenday
I just don’t see the appeal of making my dash offensive when it’s supposed to defensive.
slam?
and?
boom
yes
I get shield and use hammer to get the piercing shot so i stay out of slam rang
is op
piercing shot is such a wonderful safety hammer
yeahhhh when it does consecutive slams towards the end is what got me lol
was expecting just one since that's what it had done prior
yea piercing shot+ faster charge/dmg to shields
the first time i died to hydra i forgot lava bad
i just stood out there trying to hit a wave head
ok but why is ||the styx|| so easy
If you get Demeter’s cast and combine it with the talent that gives you three Bloodstones, you can eat through the Bone Hydra’s health gauge.
the ||small rat bossfight|| is so annoying. Esp with ||FO||
styx is
i wouldnt say easy because i died alot first going
in
mainly because i lost all my dds in elysium or asphodel
originally
it is w/ shield
it's easy if you dont get unlucky with the fountains
i think any poseidon run in elysium
styx
is gonna be a bit of a wipe
with how small the spaces are
i got a 2 tunnel sack last run it was pretty lucky
yea i bout the boon upgrade for codex but ive never used it... is it actualy good ?
no you need to
I got the Tidal Slam boon, and enemies will just bounce of walls three or four times in the Temple of Styx.
i mean
depends on the buildi
if you want to capitalise on the knockback
tempest strike is great
I use deflect for the attack so that Piercing Shot/Bull Rush deflects and deflect on the dash, but the attack is probably pretty flexible.
The deflect on attack basically lets me guard multi-hit attacks and projectiles and deflect the last hit.
hmm k
Doom and hungover are good, too, though.
doom special shield i find to be very good
from experience
hangover can also be
if you use say chaos shield
you can throw multiple shields that all apply hangover
i never use my Q ability with shield'
like never
i only use Q with spear
my spear build is like mainly using Q rather that M1
whats q
throw spear and press q to return spear
Oh, that reminds me.
Today, Zeus offered me both Heaven’s Vengeance and Lightning Reflexes, and it’s kinda ridiculous that Heaven’s Vengeance is more damaging than Lightning Reflexes. There’s way more risk to using Lightning Reflexes whereas Heaven’s Vengeance is a consolation prize for getting hit, so I’m kinda confused as to why the Heaven’s Vengeance is more damaging.
because youre getting
damage yourself for it
youre not getting damage for reflexes
i find alot of the time i pick reflexes i just activate it without trying
vengeance activates through damage
“Just before getting hit” is quite lenient in my experience
so its more risky going for damage on it on purpose outside of the ares/zeus duo
yeah it is
The game’s reflex timing is really wonky.
I guess I’m just used to games like Bayonetta where you’re encouraged to not get hit and things like Selene’s Light not only give you less Witch Time but also consume magic in addition to requiring you to get hit. It’s basically a beginner-friendly version of normal Witch Time.
Just feels weird getting a bigger reward for taking damage than properly timing your dodges.
It’s not really rewarding you for taking damage, it’s paying you back for the damage you take. Health is very scarce in this game so there’s still an incentive to not take damage, revenge boons just make it so it’s not a complete loss when you do.
having touble finding a sword aspect to focus on. just been using the default for attack speed, any hot takes on aspects?
i like the hidden aspect for the buff, but i feel like i'm always slow.
but that ||life bonus|| is nice
does dislodge do anything for the mirror trait that just regens them over time?
I'd assume it removes the cast from them and lets you fire another one since you're still capped at three deployed casts at a time with that mirror trait
so, how do you beat the Minotaur chamber in Elysium?
What specifically are you struggling with
hmm, getting a hold of his attack patterns
it's a good practice on dashing through his attacks.
Having a high DPS build helps, too. You don't want the fight to drag on for any longer than need be.
He'll do 2 wide swings in front of himself then lunge at you. I try to go behind him when he swings, then dash to the side or through him when he lunges
he does like 3 or 3 main attack patterns - the key to remember is that he does each of them towards you, no matter where you are (even if it' sout of his range). athena dash is a good help, because he dmgs himself a decent amount
I used a Spear for his fight
like with dashes
The rail might be a good choice, too, since it doesn't force you to be close to him.
bows good also
You usually want to take your time with him and just attack him when you can without getting in his way and dodge him the rest of the time
chiron is very good against asterius
Chiron?
you can do high damage without being close at all
Have you unlocked weapon aspects yet
its a bow aspect
ok you haven't got aspects then yet
Afaik you only unlock aspects after beating the game once, no?
no
Once you unlock all the weapons you'll get access to aspects
^
i learned a lot with Hera Aspect for bow
oh well
hera is very fun
Guess I need to save my keys for the weapons
Don't worry, you'll get plenty of keys
If it's any consolation: I blasted through the mirror first and got all the weapons second 😅
it's all good, you'll be flush with them all 🙂
you can always but keys with gems from the broker
if its any consolidation i had no idea you could upgrade the mirror until well after i had unlocked all the weapons
the Athena dash (divine dash) is super strong while you're getting the hang of things. you dont even really need to upgrade it
^

thanks y'all for the help
I'll be sure to stop by whenever i'm stuck at a place or vs a boss
Athena dash carried my bum way further than it had any right to
happy to help
meeeee too
(being a merciful end enjoyer did its part too lmao)
I have gone close to 100 runs, and have only fought [REDACTED] twice and lost both times. Can anyone help please
What are you struggling with exactly? And how long does it take you to get to you know who?
If I were you I'd experiment with new weapons and builds if you've just been using one weapon up to this point
No matter what weapon or boons I use, I barely make it to elysium most times.
Do you feel like it's a build issue or is it hard for you to keep up with the pace of the game?
Build issue I think. I never get the boons that online things tell me to get
serious question
Before you go off of what the internet tells you, I would play a few runs with every weapon until you find the one you like the most and then try to find good builds for that weapon
have you upgraded rhe mirror
i think its a massive barrier to getting far
it not being upgraded
I have almost completely upgraded the mirror
ok
Do you also have access to the hidden aspects?
Spear has appeared but I don't have any blood to unlock
oh they aren't apparently
I use the 1 keepsake per run
Buy the upgrade from the house contractor that lets you swap it out after each floor
I have it
If I were you I would use a god keepsake on the first two floors to get 2 boons that are crucial to your build
how do you gain titans blood after clearing the first floor with all weapons?
ah
kk
You get it for beating the final boss and you can buy it in ||styx|| for 1200 obol
per ||heat level ||per weapon, that is
i have yet to beat the game first lol
is there a keepsake that increases odds of Hammer?
sorry, not contractor. I forgot their name. The trade-in shade.
also you can trade for it
The name of the final boss is a spoiler in this chat fyi
wretched broker
thanks!
my b
@rich cave most of the times I barely ever get the boon from the god I have a keepsake for
@turbid thicket ||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel as an fyi 
fr even if i skip multiple boons from different gods
@rich cave since your name is 'demeter fists enjoyer' do you have a build or anything you'd recommend (or a screenshot of a admin center win)? feel free to DM me if you dont want to post it in the help channel
also the names of hidden aspects are spoilers
How to play fists:
- zeus attack
- Win
sorry, I changed it
zeus attack is very god with fists
@broken edge 4th aspects are spoilers in this channel as an fyi 
@pastel cipher edited. Thank you
so many builds revolve on gettin the lucky hammer options


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