h1-for-new-players

[sly vigil]

1. What root? The mandrake root in the pool? Well, it's in... the pool?
2. In the last chamber of each tunnel usually.

[harsh leaf]

There are several small rooms that have grates though

[sly vigil]

usually

[daring delta]

@sly vigil yes I know, I mean these are the first two things you should look at in a room

[sly vigil]

oh ok, so not question

mb

[daring delta]

No worries :)

[harsh leaf]

They're just less relevant because you can typically finish the room before they activate

[amber laurel]

Yeah I know beating an encounter cures poison. But what happens is, the poison drains me so fast that I can't finish it in time. Hence why I was pondering ditching cursed slash, since it cuts your health to 40%

[daring delta]

I'm on My last run, probably

Ditch cursed anyway, it's trash

Uh

Play whichever way you like

[amber laurel]

Why? It's by far the most reliable healing tool from what I can tell

[sly vigil]

Hence why I was pondering ditching cursed slash, since it cuts your health to 40%
Cursed slash is good starting out. Later on, you will see that it's quite... sub optimal except in very niche situations.

[daring delta]

True that@amber laurel

[harsh leaf]

Yeah, and it's still not good at all

[amber laurel]

Oh wow xD

[amber laurel]

Figured that would be the case

[daring delta]

It's just that when you get better att the game, your goals should be not getting hit at all

[harsh leaf]

New players really over-value healing. When you get good enough, you depend less on healing and more on just avoiding damage altogether

[lethal mantle]

there is iframe

for this game right

[daring delta]

Yes

[harsh leaf]

Dashing

Dont dash attack, that will not have any iframes

[sly vigil]

Normal Dash, using Calls, and ||using summons|| all provide i frames

[lethal mantle]

what is summon?

[sly vigil]

late game upgrade, you will get there.

[daring delta]

You'll find out later

[lethal mantle]

does surfing on pasaidon count as summon

[harsh leaf]

You mean... his Call?

That is a Call

[lethal mantle]

oh thats classify as call

didnt know that

[sly vigil]

no. summons is specific limited use ability

[daring delta]

If you don't know, you haven't gotten a summon yet

[harsh leaf]

Poseidon's call makes you invulnerable

So does Ares' call, and Athena's call

[lethal mantle]

ok

[amber laurel]

Btw, how does the god gauge work?

I have noticed that it fills when you hit stuff

[harsh leaf]

It increases when you hit enemies or are damaged

[amber laurel]

But is the amount filled based on the attack's damage?

[harsh leaf]

It's not entirely dependant on amount of damage dealt, so fast weapons charge faster

[amber laurel]

Oh ok

[sly vigil]

don't expect to use call every fight.

some fight will end before you have a chance to use it. it's mostly for big fights like mini bosses or bosses

[amber laurel]

Is there a thing where fast weapons like the fists take advantage of calls in certain ways other weapons can't because of filling speed?

Like some sort of build?

[harsh leaf]

Not really, no

Since, as Fox said, you cant reliably have Call every fight

Mostly something for bosses or minibosses

[lethal mantle]

so u can animation cancel

when atking

u can just

dash

or the atk is too fast that u just cannot feel it

[sly vigil]

You can, but the thing is with such a build that can build call fast, you are better off just putting more damage on the stuff you use to build the call in the first place, if that makes sense.
For example, you can use use fists with high attack speed to build call. But then why rely on the call? Just put power ups on the attack itself and finish the fight.
It's build that defeats its own purpose, essentially.
Tldr call is for support, don't build around it (maybe Smoldering Air stuff, but that's different).

[sly vigil]

Not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate?

[lethal mantle]

im not sure if you can dash while atking

i mean is it like dark souls where u cannot roll when u atk and have to wait animation to finish then only u can roll

or u dun have to

[sly vigil]

I see. Depends on the weapon.

With bow, for example, you obviously can't dash while charging.

[lethal mantle]

[sly vigil]

With certain swords, the animation of attack is long and you are locked.

With fists, you can dash almost instantaneously.

So it depends.

[lethal mantle]

i see

[toxic swift]

Have you tried the aspect of Arthur? Pretty much the whole playstyle revolves around dashing during your 3 hit combo

[harsh leaf]

You can buffer a sword special before a dash, and it will come out afterwards

You can also do a dash spin with the spear

[round hearth]

What does “per chamber” mean?

[harsh leaf]

A chamber is a room

[round hearth]

Ah

So stubborn defiance activates every room?

[leaden whale]

yeah

[round hearth]

Isn’t that op?

[leaden whale]

a room with enemies in it is called an encounter by the game

well you only get one

and it heals to 30% hp instead of 50%

[round hearth]

Per chamber

[subtle granite]

only if you arent dependant on multiple DDs in a boss room

[round hearth]

Ahhh

[leaden whale]

so it's great for regular rooms, but not so much for boss fights

[round hearth]

I see

I got to the final boss for the first time like 10 mins ago

Very exciting

I died of cours e

[prime fox]

everybody does

[round hearth]

I thought I was still several layers away

Had no idea I was that close

[prime fox]

there's still alot more to the game once you beat it though

[round hearth]

Oh I can’t wait for that

[subtle granite]

especially a lot more dying

[round hearth]

Endgame content

Do you guys go to chaos when you encounter the portal thing? I did when I first met him but now I usually skip him

[prime fox]

yeah

[subtle granite]

chaos reall does some nice boons

[prime fox]

the space looking one right?

[round hearth]

Maybe I haven’t seen any of the really good ones yet

[round hearth]

Yes

[subtle granite]

you really have no need for them at the start tho but later on it's even prayed for

[prime fox]

ok

[round hearth]

I’m guessing no spoilers here or can I talk about an encounter?

[prime fox]

use spoiler tags

[subtle granite]

one really nice beginner boon is "you get 60% more obols" and not just room rewards but also from killing enemies and selling stuff etc etc

[round hearth]

I remember very early on I got a boon that I haven’t gotten since, but I really loved it. It decreased health by 60% but you healed 2hp every time you hit an enemy

Really fun run

[harsh leaf]

That's a hammer for the sword

[ornate remnant]

|| spoiler tags like this || ^.^

That would be a Hammer, Cursed Slash

[round hearth]

Ahh

I like playing fast and aggressive so it suited me

Dashing around like a madman

[subtle granite]

how did you do the || without triggering spoiler o.o

[prime fox]

put spaces i think????

[subtle granite]

| | nah you see that

swan wtf

[round hearth]

Ok it works

[buoyant jacinth]

Backslashes I think cancel it out?

[subtle granite]

no it gets rid of one line

[prime fox]

oh yeah

[ornate remnant]

Hahaha

[subtle granite]

swan how the heck

[ornate remnant]

Yeah, like this

\|| tada ||

[prime fox]

|| spoiling the entire game whoops||

[subtle granite]

is this some kinda community tech support magic

||what||

you have blown my mind

i think ima go laydown and just...

[sly vigil]

|| spoiler doesn't work ||

Discord is down

riot

[round hearth]

Which weapon do you people main?

[sly vigil]

All of them

[subtle granite]

btw does somorebody know who Jesse is?

[round hearth]

Choose whichever one has bonus?

[ornate remnant]

Primarily shield though

But yeah, I go for the bonus

[sly vigil]

The outlaw?

[prime fox]

i usually do sword, sometimes gun or gloves

[subtle granite]

who that

[leaden whale]

|| spoiler ||

huh

[sly vigil]

How did you do that?

[round hearth]

That’s crazy

[leaden whale]

like normal

[sly vigil]

|| this isn't normal ||

[leaden whale]

|| this isn't normal ||

i'm on pc

dunno if that matters

[subtle granite]

i just noticed that there's some Jesse Lad among the Supergiants without #readme-first notes

[round hearth]

Works on mobile

[subtle granite]

dio try \

[buoyant thunder]

||don't read this||

[ornate remnant]

|| Fox is being an agent of Chaos (the Egyptian kind) ||

[leaden whale]

|| ???? ||

confusion

[round hearth]

Lol

[subtle granite]

chaos is the matrix' architect

[leaden whale]

oh

ok imma go now

[subtle granite]

fox is mr smith??

[round hearth]

anyone here use the bow a lot? I think I’m just bad at it

[leaden whale]

i like bow

everyone likes different things

i hate sword

but we have a sword licker here

[buoyant thunder]

I suck at sword!!

[round hearth]

I love sword lol

[harsh leaf]

Never attack, ONLY dash attack

[subtle granite]

everybody has their different combat styles

[round hearth]

Interesting

[harsh leaf]

Dash attacking charges faster

[round hearth]

Oh cool

Thanks

[harsh leaf]

It's much, much, MUCH better than the regular attack

[subtle granite]

attacking is satisfying tho but just dont do it regularly

[leaden whale]

i was watching a random stream the other day where they were using zag bow

and just spamming special

it was interesting

[harsh leaf]

You have to get used to dashing away then turning around to still get the dash attack charge

In order to kite enemies

[leaden whale]

they had doom so i guess it worked out

[subtle granite]

thats how i got far ith bow lol

[harsh leaf]

Practice with skelly

[sly vigil]

Yeah, the newbie special. Pun intended.

[subtle granite]

bow is hard with kbm

since you cant really snap the mouse back to the enemies as easily

so being accurate with dashattack is hard

[leaden whale]

i can't use a controller to save my life so i wouldn't know

[ornate remnant]

I just have high DPI I guess, I've never had an issue with that

[prime fox]

is hades going to have any dlc?

[round hearth]

Pc players, what do you have your special set to? Q is default but I changed it to Shift very quickly

[leaden whale]

i just use default

since i got used to it

[harsh leaf]

Unlikely

[ornate remnant]

Likely not, though it's certainly possible

[prime fox]

ok thanks

[subtle granite]

i have but special on RMB and cast on q

[ornate remnant]

I have cast on shift, special on RMB, call on F, and || summon || on Q

[buoyant thunder]

Anyone have any advice on sword? I really struggle with it.

[harsh leaf]

Dash attack more

[sly vigil]

something something dash strike spam

[round hearth]

I find it helps to dash around

And spam

[harsh leaf]

Dont take Cursed Slash

[subtle granite]

dash attack on swords are nice

or dash specials

[leaden whale]

I have special set to a side mouse button

[round hearth]

Useful to have a boon that adds damage to dash

[leaden whale]

My advice for sword

[round hearth]

Really good

[leaden whale]

is to play poseidon

[subtle granite]

only maybe with hidden sword and if you feel ok with low health

poseidon is the only sword aspect i cant get behind

[harsh leaf]

Hey, Nemesis is also good

[harsh leaf]

But the slow swings means it also sucks with Cursed Slash 😄

[subtle granite]

nemesis and hidden sword > poseidon any day

[subtle granite]

true but at least you have the aura

and way higher health

[leaden whale]

cursed slash hidden sword is great

[subtle granite]

honestly the normal hidden sword attack doesnt feel THAT slow to me anymore, only the combos/lunge

and since it does great damage you get health back + honestly two-shot all enemies

well with aphro

[prime fox]

how do you get to interact with ||bouldy||? I've heard about him but whenever I try to go up and talk nothing shows up.

[subtle granite]

after you maxed sisyphus

[floral nacelle]

Try getting closer with sisyphus

I forget when I could talk with bouldy but sisyphus doesn't need to be fully maxed out for bouldy speak

[subtle granite]

i only got access to bouldy boons after sisyphus was maxed, i guess i just always put my nectar onto him

[prime fox]

[round hearth]

How many attempts did it take for you to || escape || for the first time? I’m on 23 and I’ve got to the very last step before dying

[buoyant thunder]

So, you can get Bouldy boons once ||Sisyphus says to talk to Bouldy||. I don't know when that is, but it is not when Sisyphus is maxed out.

I was able to get Bouldy Boons before that. I do believe I had the ||compainion though||

[subtle granite]

can take anywhere from between 5-120 attempts

[round hearth]

5? Wow

[leaden whale]

some ppl are just God Gamers

[subtle granite]

^

[ornate remnant]

Average is about 30, from what I've heard

Mind you, took me 13

[round hearth]

Congrats

Impressive

[prime fox]

ok then i should get it soon

[subtle granite]

got really selfconcious when my best bud got the elysium achievement after less than 4h of playing and escaping on the first day...

[harsh leaf]

I got it in 21, but then rattled 16 wins in a row

[subtle granite]

80 cause i'm old

[ornate remnant]

I wouldn't stress it, honestly

[round hearth]

You still did it, which is more that a lot of people can say

[subtle granite]

true but at least now when i do fresh runs i get the escape about every 5th :)

[harsh leaf]

Some people in this very chat cant even beat the game at God Mode 60%+

[round hearth]

Oh nice

[harsh leaf]

Dont feel too bad about taking your time

[round hearth]

What does god mode do?

[subtle granite]

once got to ||father dearest|| on my first prepare run for fresh run training and got him to second stage ;-;

[ornate remnant]

Damage resistance, stacking every time you die

[round hearth]

Ohh

[ornate remnant]

No way to reduce it though, unfortunately

[round hearth]

I’m playing on the regular difficulty

Isn’t there a hell mode or something

[subtle granite]

yes

[ornate remnant]

Ye

[harsh leaf]

You can turn God Mode on and off with no penalty

[subtle granite]

for fresh runs

[round hearth]

Might try that some day

[buoyant thunder]

Why is everyone's advice with the sword just dash attack :/

[subtle granite]

honestly having high heat with mirror turned off feels better than hell mode

[round hearth]

It’s what works for a lot of people

[subtle granite]

and dash special

[prime fox]

that's all you need

[buoyant thunder]

Well that's false

[subtle granite]

love (and dash attack) is all you need <3

[ornate remnant]

I mean, it clearly works for some people.

Personally, I spam special/dash to cancel it

[harsh leaf]

Sounds like you need a big helping of "Git Gud" soup

[sly vigil]

Because the normal 3 hit combo is kinda ass?

[subtle granite]

lunge is only fun in tartarus

when you can just smash everybody into the walls

[sly vigil]

^

[round hearth]

On my last run I got a || new moveset || for the first time

For the sword

[subtle granite]

asphodel is also kinda fun cause they just get sent onto the lava for life

[round hearth]

|| the 90 base damage slice ||

[subtle granite]

but elysium and swordcombo? rather not

[buoyant thunder]

@round hearth that's not really a spoiler tbh. But world splitter is a very interesting hammer

I don't know where I stand with it

[sly vigil]

The combo does 20/25/30 damage.

Dash strike straight up does 30 damage and can be spammed

Yeah...

[subtle granite]

and the lunge does nice knockback

[harsh leaf]

Doesnt it do 20?

[subtle granite]

then again, for asphodel and tartarus

[buoyant thunder]

I mean, you are not wrong

[glad vortex]

Charged shot+udden rush is pure joy

[sly vigil]

Wiki says 30, which is kinda consistent with my play experience. Though wiki is known to be wrong before.

[subtle granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tomato-bisque-soup-cooking-recipe-dinner-gif-3356635

[round hearth]

mmm... Estus soup

[subtle granite]

git gud soup

but only one portion of it for you D:

[buoyant thunder]

Thanks Mom

[subtle granite]

c:

[harsh leaf]

Huh, you were right, it IS 30 damage

Man dash attack is even better than I thought!

[sly vigil]

and you have double edge

[round hearth]

Dash attack spam + doom inflict attack + boon that gives damaging dash = win

[silk swift]

If you're gonna doom attack might as well ME

[subtle granite]

i always forget ME is an abbreviation for the ares/athena duo

[midnight grail]

am working on perfecting my strats for when i re-attempt final boss and i've just killed meg in less than a minute. i think this is my fastest time on her so far

[buoyant thunder]

Yeah... i think I just dislike sword

[ornate remnant]

that's fair, it's not for everyone

[wide blade]

always go for bow with hera aspect + Dionysus cast, absolutely nukes with 100% accuracy

[midnight grail]

honestly i ran through all the way to boss with spear

granted i died on boss but thats beside the point

[wide blade]

lmao

[midnight grail]

u alrdy upgraded it a bit

ima beat this man with spear

[wide blade]

just the normal spear?

good luck man

[midnight grail]

i got achilles aspect now but first run to boss was normal

the dmg increase is rly nice

[wide blade]

Id say hold off on doing the 1 titan blood aspects, the 2 titan blood ones are always a bit better

especially spear and bow

[midnight grail]

definitely

im still deciding gods around achilles aspect for spear. so far athena and zeus/ares seem like my best picks

[wide blade]

you're gonna wanna do bow for your runs, you can stack a lot of damage with the special

spear is a good choice, id just roll for a daedalus pick up with the extra hits on dash attack

rlly nice damage output

[midnight grail]

oh yeah the 3x one is the best

[wide blade]

it does reduce your dash but the dps you can get out is insane

[midnight grail]

especially when paired with athena divine strike or whatever

immediate deflects

[wide blade]

Id say doom and buffing doom works as well

aw cmon the deflect dash is goated

[midnight grail]

oh no yea i also run that

i just like the strike better

[subtle granite]

athena attack with artemis dash is also really nice if you get their duo with serrated point

[halcyon escarp]

You know that feeling when you just started hades, think about looking some guides up just for fun but at the same time you think: "nahh, if I don't follow any guidance from others, it'll be MY journey all the way through" :D

[prime fox]

You know that feeling when you just started hades, think about looking some guides up just for fun but YOU GET THE ENTIRE GAME SPOILED WHY DID I GO TO THE WIKI AAAAA

[subtle granite]

honestly if you need info from the wiki without spoilers ask away here

there are more than enough people who can explain it with as little spoilers as possible

[ornate remnant]

ye!

[subtle granite]

swan do you ever sleep o.o

[ornate remnant]

yup!

it's noon for me right now

[subtle granite]

you seem to be here answering away ay hour of the day o.o

O.O

[ornate remnant]

I usually sleep between 2am-9am

[sly vigil]

Based schedule

[subtle granite]

is this your main job or how come somebody can be community supporting on monday noon ;-;

[ornate remnant]

oh lmao, I'm a student

I'm on break

[subtle granite]

already?

yall lucky

[sly vigil]

Covid bro

[ornate remnant]

yeah ~~also we should move to #off-topic-discussion ~~

[subtle granite]

covid only closes my schools in afew days

maybe

[ornate remnant]

moving there

[subtle granite]

anyways megagorgon sucks and nobody can change my mind

it killed 5 of my last fresh file runs

[midnight grail]

So i've fought ||hades|| twice now, first with default spear and now with achilles aspect. The aspect + my boons with ares and athena got me to almost ||second phase|| but i had to use my remaining death defiance and i died before that tiny bit of hp before his ||next phase||. Any tips on strategies to maybe get past that?

[ornate remnant]

real quick, || final boss name and multiple phases are a spoiler ||

[halcyon escarp]

Ah you poor soul :c

[midnight grail]

i think i spoilered the important parts

[ornate remnant]

Thanks ^.^

To answer your question, dodge timing is everything in that fight

avoiding those big swings, avoiding the projectiles

[midnight grail]

yea the aoe swing is what got me alot

[ornate remnant]

generally, there's a brief area display before the actual swing--wait a beat after that, then dodge (is roughly the timing)

or just double-dash out

[midnight grail]

Quick addition to that - how are people getting 3 defiances? my strat was start with athena owl and in elysium i swapped to lucky tooth so i only end up with 2 at boss if i play it right

[ornate remnant]

keep upgrading the mirror

[midnight grail]

oh thats where it comes from? bet ill farm keys then im 9 away from next 2 upgrades

[ornate remnant]

it's in the first set iirc, you can keep upgrading the same talents more than once

[midnight grail]

doesnt that one only give 1 tho?

oh wait, ts 500 to keep going

[ornate remnant]

yup

[midnight grail]

i see now lol

[ornate remnant]

hahaha

[midnight grail]

god thats gonna suck ill have to hope for poseidon so i can be greedy

[prime fox]

you can also regain some through charon and ||Patroclus||

[ornate remnant]

you'll get it faster than you think ^.^

[prime fox]

and i think there's a boon too?

[ornate remnant]

for restoring, yes

[midnight grail]

||patroclus|| showed up on my first ever defeat of the ||duo boss||

[ornate remnant]

not for gaining

[prime fox]

yeah

[midnight grail]

ill farm darkness and poseidons greed boons as much as i can then so i can get that upgrade

[floral nacelle]

Patty is the best bro zag could ask for, rescuing runs that look lost already or giving you more health so you don’t use a DD

[prime fox]

is it possible to get into the room next to the trophies?

[ornate remnant]

|| yes, late-game ||

[prime fox]

thanks

||do you just unlock it or do you need diamonds?||

[ornate remnant]

|| iirc, you just unlock it through a narrative event ||

[true sand]

If you running into Mega Gorgon issues, you definitly need to get the Athena Dash.

[subtle granite]

i know but i hate mega gorgon

it alone is a breezy but i always miscalculate the hit area of the skull crusher

[true sand]

That's a fight were do don't stop moving much

[subtle granite]

16 damage on hit is deadly on fresh file runs

[true sand]

oh, you doing fresh file? never mind that's a whole different ballgame

[subtle granite]

still once it decides to come down you can try to run but only one dash makes it hard

fresh file is easy but if i get those babes, i can immediately restart

[true sand]

Can you get butterfly ball on fresh file?

[subtle granite]

butterfly ball is pretty easy

[true sand]

I can't imagine havign decent DPS on fresh file to take it down quick enough

[subtle granite]

usually (idk if its just my luck or semi-scripted) i get a ton of ares boons, so them on special with 60% extra does really nice damage

and the ball doesnt move too much without MM so it really is ok

[dire spindle]

Update I been listening this song good riddance in my last run

And upgrade some of the weapons

Like sword, spear, shield and bow

Meaning to try the weapons out in my next run

:)

[ancient junco]

Right not I'm trying to just gain a lot of gems to buy everything in the shop and upgrade all the weapons

[daring delta]

Gaining too, but pretty rare

[ornate remnant]

boons? Only one

or I guess the SD interaction

[daring delta]

||Chaos Legendary||

[ornate remnant]

yup

[dire spindle]

For me i been beating the fury sister in hades with different weapons. Most of the time. To unlock new weapons form

Right now only one I have not beat them with using the gun

As for the gameplay I found hades to be very fun to play. With the fast movement.

P. S I have played other roguelike games like hades. Children of morta and undermine.

But these games movement is a bit slow

[ancient junco]

Although some of the prophecies give a rly good amount of blood

[rustic kite]

Hello there.
Can Turkish language support come for Hades?

[brave solstice]

Me: time to fish
My cat about to jump on my keyboard: Im about to do a pro gamer move

[sly vigil]

lol

[midnight grail]

can...can someone tell me why shield + ares special boon is this good.

ive been running spear this whole time thinking im a god and then this shows up out of nowhere and im full hp on meg essentially

i feel like im in warframe with a viral build just chunking at hp

[torn plaza]

doom is a very strong mechanic

[midnight grail]

yeah it feels like viral in warframe just chunking at hp overtime

i might have to incorporate ares way more into my builds this is insane

now i cant even imagine doom on the spear with the achilles aspect - throw it, hit for doom, click to jump, increased damage, repeat

[harsh leaf]

Achilles doesnt increase damage from Doom

[midnight grail]

oh no i just mean as a blanket damage boost

its probably minimal compared to what doom does already but god i love this

now i might actually use the bow aswell

[torn plaza]

doom is okay for the bow

[midnight grail]

wouldnt it be great with the triple arrow boon?

[torn plaza]

if you want really busted doom builds, get a weapon that attacks fast, put doom on the attack, get the athena dash, and get the ares athena duo boon

[midnight grail]

so get the spear with the 3x dash hit, slap doom on it, divine dash for deflect and then hope for the best

sounds like im in for some fun

lmao

holy i just got ||patroclus|| again, the run is saved

[clever vault]

Just wanted to say I am 50 runs in, no completes but literally spending all my free time on this game. It's so much fun, and I usually don't like roguelikes unless it's Pokemon mystery dungeon or the free version of Spelunky, the first of which I never thought of as a rogue like.

[midnight grail]

whats the best aspect for the shield to pair with doom? zeus aspect looks kinda nice ngl

[fluid void]

i think chaos is nice too

[midnight grail]

how about for the rail?

[fluid void]

for doom? technically all of them could work

[dense laurel]

if u want to use doom on rail, u need the stacking boon

or else not worth imo

[midnight grail]

makes sense

[ornate remnant]

or could get it on special

[visual python]

How do you deeepen relationships?

[dense laurel]

eh, o=i rather put oter boons on special

[visual python]

I’m stuck at that point

[dense laurel]

give nectars to them

[visual python]

I can’t give anymore

The hearts are locked

[dense laurel]

then do their favors

[visual python]

What are their favours?

How do I find them ?

[dense laurel]

each npc have their own favor

[visual python]

Oh okay

[dense laurel]

u can check the wiki if u want

its like a hidden quest

[visual python]

I didn’t know that was the thing Alrigjt I don’t wanna spoil it but thanks for the tip

[ornate remnant]

They'll usually tell you what they want you to do

and many of them are prophecies as well

[dense laurel]

i mean the gods dont rly tells you

[ornate remnant]

Some of them do

they say "hey do this thing"

[lusty jackal]

i'm having trouble using my cast effectively for anything, when i do it is mostly not booned and is thrown at bosses for boiling blood damage. any tips or good videos for integrating cast into a playstyle? i'm not exactly sure how and when to use it.
context: i haven't gotten past minotaur and theseus and i abuse ares doom spear special to get to that point

any and all help is appreciated, i really love the game so far

[woven pelican]

going for boons that affect your cast are usually good incentive to use them!

I like using Ares' one the osot

blade rift slaps

[fluid void]

having a weapon aspect that affects the cast helps too

[proud raft]

if you already have a ranged weapon, aphrodite cast is good as a melee option

small but hits like a truck

[woven pelican]

true!

artemis' cast is helpful if you move around a lot since it's homing

[lusty jackal]

nice, thank you all. i'll look into those.

[tough gazelle]

Artemis with poseidon duo is so fun

You just start firing homing missiles left right and center

[spring creek]

Hello there new to the game, currently playing on pc but planning to also get it to switch for cross play. my question is on a nintendo switch controller what would ppl say be the more...optimal key mapping as i see already there are some...issues with buttons on the screen not switching up in accordance

[harsh leaf]

The only thing I'd change is swapping codex with reload

[spring creek]

I did do a switcheroo considering of what ive understood
Attack - Y(West) Dash - B(South) Cast - A(East) Special - X(North)
but on pc compared to switch its a bit switched with it being
Attack - X(North) Dash - A(East) Cast - B(South) Special - Y (West)

Am i correct in this assumption?

[glad vortex]

Shield is super good vs those two if you're not comfortable with their attack patterns.

[errant bramble]

Do you have innate crit chance or does Artemis boob like Hunter’s Mark do zero unless you have a boon that says “adds crit Chance”

[harsh leaf]

There is no innate crit chance

[glad vortex]

" or does Artemis boob like Hunter’s Mark" you mean boon lol

[errant bramble]

lol autocorrect is a joker.

[lusty jackal]

wow you were really not joking lol

[proud raft]

yea i was sleeping on it until my friend recommended it

good stuff

[lusty jackal]

yeah. thanks again

[proud raft]

np!

[brave solstice]

Ohhhh noooo

I just got to ||Hades|| for the first time Im gonna die i dont wanna die

I did so well...

Im scared to unpause

I reeeeally dont want to die

I have Artemis’ Attack, Ares’ Special, Poseidon’s Cast and Call, and Athena’s dash

250 total health, currently at 220 cause I got beat up in ||Styx|| a bit

And I have two death defiances

[glad vortex]

Everything he does is telegraphed.

Be prepared to work that spacebar.

[brave solstice]

Im aware

Ive gotten him to half health im doing fairly well

My hands are shaking

WAIT

HOL UP

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHAT ARE YOU DOINGGGGG

PLEASE STOP IT

I died

Ive never felt that enraged before

That was a whole new experience

[midnight grail]

just beat ||theseus|| without using death defiance

very happy

[frank wraith]

Ok so.... I'm new here, love the game.. but can anyone give me some tips on how to beat Theseus? I can beat his Minotaur friend most of the time, but I can't figure him out

[midnight grail]

bait his arrow attack and then strike

thats what works for me

you insta dodge kind of to him but parallel when he does the arrow attack so you can immediately go for a couple of hits

[frank wraith]

I've been doing that. So I guess I just have to get better?

[midnight grail]

yep

i went thru the same

after a couple of runs he will be ez dont worry

ranged attacks also work super well

[frank wraith]

I've gotten to Asphodel like 5 times now, when does he become easy?

[midnight grail]

but thats not to say its not doable with close range stuff

[frank wraith]

lol

[glad vortex]

Side not about the god call: theseus with artemis is pure sadness and failure

[glad vortex]

Beat them with shield, block and counter Asterius, its tedious but easy

[frank wraith]

Also quick question about The ice god. (Can't remember his name) When can you start getting boons from him? Cause I saw him on the wiki and I didn't even know he was in the game

[glad vortex]

Her, reach the final boss.

[frank wraith]

I'll try that again!

[glad vortex]

Note that theseus god call can't be block, but all his spin and spear throw cna

[frank wraith]

And one final question for rn

........

Or I did have a question

But I can't remember haha

Oh yeah! That Charon's Obel above the first save slot. What does that mean?

[brave solstice]

I think its just an icon

[spice scroll]

i just got to asphodel for the first time!!

[frank wraith]

Nice

[midnight grail]

I did it. i beat the final boss. god i feel so good

17 hours in and i got my first clear

[valid wolf]

Niceee

[fluid void]

it's to show which save file you have selected, i believe

[frank wraith]

Ahh okay

thanks

[lusty jackal]

icon shows what save file you last played iirc

[frank wraith]

kk

[brave solstice]

Me: Ah, Im really struggling. Maybe I should check Haelian’s video on some easy builds to get me my first win
Haelian: Another one you can use is Chaos Shield + Ares Special
Me realizing thats the build I used that got me to the final boss for the first time:

[fervent socket]

so

[sick harbor]

Is it worth it to use a diamond on the Court Musicians Sentence

[valid wolf]

Definitely

[brave solstice]

Yes

[leaden whale]

yeah

[sick harbor]

Also when do I get to start using my Titans Blood

[brave solstice]

Do you have all the weapons unlocked?

[real helm]

So I just unlocked Titan's Blood access, any reccomendations on where to use it? My fav weapon to use is the shield for context.

[wild cloud]

What part of the shield do you like to use the most? The attack or the throw? Or do you like both?

[real helm]

Bull Rush more than anything

Normally when I'm using it what'll end up happening is I'll sit there and take it, bull rush in + a few attacks, double dash back out, repeat

or for normal rooms just smack people

so i guess attack ye

[opaque geyser]

Just FYI I find Chaos to not be good unless you max it out

[buoyant thunder]

Just did a Talos lightning build and it was extremely fun! Highky recommended :D

[real helm]

yeah none of the shield upgrades like

jump out at me a ton

[buoyant thunder]

You have the first 3 aspects right?

[real helm]

ye

[buoyant thunder]

Aspect of Zeus is a strong upgrade

And Chaos is best when it gets upgraded

[real helm]

what's max level on chaos?

[buoyant thunder]

6 shields

[real helm]

i do technically have 6 blood to dump

[opaque geyser]

Not 6 bloods

[real helm]

oh does it ramp up in reqs

[buoyant thunder]

No no no, it goes 2 blood, then 3, then so on up to 5

[real helm]

ohhhh okey

so i could get to 3 extra shields

[buoyant thunder]

I won't lie, Zag shield is very good at max upgrade

[real helm]

can you only have 1 aspect active at a time btw or all of them? I noticed when i upgraded one to test it out, it changed appearance, but idk if that has a mechanical implication

[near rain]

only one aspect at a time yeah

[real helm]

ahhh okey okey

alright i think i'm gonna just roll with aspect of chaos for now, can always get more blood as time goes on anyway

thanks muhc for the help

[near rain]

np

[opaque geyser]

Zagreus aspects are decent for low investment because they are 5 blood total

Except sword and spear. Those aren't great.

[near rain]

nemesis sword all day

[buoyant thunder]

What weapon would you say is best for the doom mechanic?

[opaque geyser]

Like... general doom, or Merciful End?

[buoyant thunder]

General

[proud raft]

I’d say sword so you don’t have to follow up on attacks

[vapid marten]

hey, quick question. who should we give gifts and why???

[cinder pulsar]

Give one nectar to any NPC you can for their keepsake, then save future nectars for trading resources until you reach the end of the story

[proud raft]

i'd also recommend getting to the ambrosia level for ||than, dusa, skelly, meg, sisyphus, achilles and patroclus||

[cinder pulsar]

Mostly because you don't get any real reward for giving gifts after the first one until post-story stuff

Same applies to ambrosia, which you should consider trading in for resources as well

[vapid marten]

okay, got it, thank you!!!!

[opaque geyser]

Doom IMO is something to make up for a really bad weapon. So, anything that you use to just tag enemies.

It doesn't benefit from:

• High weapon damage
• High weapon speed (unless you get Dire Misfortune)

[frank wraith]

When do I get access to the "hidden" aspects for infernal arms?

[buoyant thunder]

I hope the ares+demeter duo gets a buff

[ornate remnant]

There's a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion

[frank wraith]

kk'

[ornate remnant]

I can summarize here if you don't want to look there yet ^.^

[blazing linden]

How do I get more diamonds or titan bloood

Ik raising the heat is one of them but no matter what heat I raise it too its has a green check mark

[ancient junco]

it depends on how far you've reached with your ||heat|| in each weapon

[sly vigil]

Did you clear the run for said heat also?

[ancient junco]

and the only other way is exchange

[blazing linden]

Ye

For example

The rail

I cleaned 1 heat on it

[sly vigil]

So this means that you did at least 20 heat with every weapon?

[blazing linden]

So heat 2 should give me the rewards right?

[ancient junco]

yes

[blazing linden]

Nope

It's already checked

Even though I didn't beat that level yet

[sly vigil]

Depends. This sounds like a misunderstanding.

[ornate remnant]

(|| heat is generally considered a spoiler in this channel, because it's post final boss ||)

[ancient junco]

it's either a bug or you are doing something wrong

[quasi vault]

Uhm why can't i give more nectar to patroclus even though i have his keepsake

[blazing linden]

Okay let's say the sword

[ornate remnant]

Check the codex, there's probably a locked heart

[daring delta]

Raise heat, complete run

[blazing linden]

Ik i didn't FOR SURE beat heat 10 20 30 or 40

[sly vigil]

Neither. They likely clear half way through a heat (didn't beat boss), then increase it, then wonder why Tartarus has checkmark.

[blazing linden]

But the bounties are checked for some reason

Idk what to di

I can join a vc and stream to prove it

[ancient junco]

did you try raising the ||heat|| even more just to see

[quasi vault]

I gave one nectar then after that his name is still question mark

[blazing linden]

Yes

[sly vigil]

Swan I know heat is spoiler but just this time.

[ornate remnant]

What's the || lowest heat || that will give you any rewards?

[blazing linden]

Nothing

For the sword its nothinf

[sly vigil]

Easiest way: pick your weapon, go to pact, read instruction.

Should say fill heat gauge up to X heat.

Now 2 things can happen

For sake of example, say it says fill 5 heat with sword

You pick 5 heat and somehow Tartarus still have checkmark

This is normal

[blazing linden]

Yes ik that

[ancient junco]

are all the bounties checked or just the 3 first?

did you lose last time?

[blazing linden]

The first 3

But

I didn't even try those heat yet

[ornate remnant]

could you DM me a screenshot of your Pact screen?

[blazing linden]

Only 1 heat

Yeye

[ancient junco]

it's normal

when you win all the bounties are gonna unlock

[glad vortex]

shouldn't heat be moved to another discussion?

[blazing linden]

is it not allowed here?

oops

[sly vigil]

yeah technically, hence Swan asks for DM I assume

[ornate remnant]

ye

[ornate remnant]

this

[glad vortex]

Even though it's not really a spoiler

[sly vigil]

It does say No Spoilers End Boss Onward

Though ||Pact|| is available for Hell Mode, but eh, just a courtesy thing doesn't hurt tbh

[blazing linden]

okay

so uh

[ornate remnant]

alright! I think we got it. It's a bit hard to explain when there's so many people talking at once lol

[blazing linden]

ye we figured it out

LOL

[sly vigil]

Is it the bounty misunderstanding?

[ornate remnant]

yeah, just how || completing a heat level || works

[torn plaza]

|| what will happen if i get hit in an erebus gate that says "dont get hit" ||

[ornate remnant]

|| you lose the reward ||

@torn plaza

[torn plaza]

oh gotcha

i thought id just get wiped lol

[ornate remnant]

nope

[muted latch]

||you get a tiny piece of reward!||

[buoyant thunder]

You get something that has layers, much like ogres

[muted latch]

You get something that resembles your tears.

[full depot]

Do I really need to upgrade Zeus' shield?

It seems like there wouldn't be much change to how it functions if I increase the base dsmage since boon damage seems to be so much better on it

[runic kite]

once it's fully upgraded percentages are good too

[full depot]

Is there any boon or combo in particular that you recommend trying with it

[runic kite]

demeter maybe?

[dense laurel]

u can use zeus on it

[full depot]

I tried Zeus and it was super fun

[silk swift]

Thunder special is great, especially on low blood investment

When maxed demeter and Artemis are quite good

[magic urchin]

i was about to defeat ||hades||

but that mf regained his health again

is that the pattern?

[crystal oar]

Ye that’s his thing

[brave solstice]

I cried when that happened

[fathom crown]

After I max out fountains/troves/urns, are gemstones just for cosmetic upgrades?

Similarly, after I unlock all weapons and all mirror talents, are keys just for respecs?

[dense laurel]

final boss name is a spoiler here btw, tag it next time

[magic urchin]

Sorry mate

How to add spoilers tag

[vestal reef]

mark the part you want to spoiler tag, press the eye thingy.

@magic urchin

[dense laurel]

use || on both sides

[vestal reef]

||like this :)||

[magic urchin]

How to do it in mobile

[leaden whale]

|| like this ||

[vestal reef]

||

[leaden whale]

the two bars

[dense laurel]

its in ur keyboard

even in mobile

[magic urchin]

Done👍

[vestal reef]

perfekta

[magic urchin]

Thanks for the info

[midnight grail]

WAIT YOU CAN FIGHT ||CHARON||????

in my 26 escape attempts which only one succeeded i never had this

[dense laurel]

play more

[errant bramble]

Dumb question: for anything higher than like low heat, I basically need to figure out how to never get hit by the boss fights I assume? I find it very hard to come out of Alecto/Tisiphone fights without getting bonked a bunch. Not to mention Minotaur etc

[ancient junco]

about alecto and tisiphone it's all about getting used to it and knowing when to defend when to atk when to dodge etc. about Theseus and Asterius same but you could make sure you pick up a good hermes movement boon

[floral nacelle]

there's also that hermes boon that increases dodge chance by 15%

[errant bramble]

Yeah the dodge boon is busted imo.

Yeah I have trouble deciphering the patterns. Just need to work on it I suppose

[ancient junco]

and if you can build it up with his keepsake its rly good

[opaque geyser]

You can get to ||32 heat|| and still take hits occasionally. For bosses there's also a keepsake which can help: ||Acorn||

[visual python]

Also if you want a good idea, i love demters chill, gives you a way wider window to dodge and also to come in and attack

[magic urchin]

when do u get pact of punishment? i have seen some videos in my yt recommendation

[visual python]

When you clear first time

[magic urchin]

i personally dislike demters boons

[visual python]

Really?

I love them

[magic urchin]

i use stygian blade

what do u use?

[opaque geyser]

I'm lukewarm with ||Demeter's|| boons

[visual python]

I really like using bow, fists and blade

[floral nacelle]

I feel like demeter doesn't synergize that well with other gods

[visual python]

Demeter booms work really well.

[magic urchin]

true

[visual python]

Imo

[floral nacelle]

Since most of her duos are cast related

[magic urchin]

i dont use cast at all

[visual python]

I like her chill and the constant tick damage boon

[magic urchin]

use normal and special

[opaque geyser]

Scintillating Ice party is nice. Artemis homing beams are not bad.

[harsh leaf]

Maybe you should?

[magic urchin]

why cast is really that powerful?

[opaque geyser]

... Yes.

[visual python]

And the Demeter slow plus ares blade rift keeps the boss in the damage

[opaque geyser]

I'd rather have hunting blades generally

[magic urchin]

oh maybe i should start using cast

[visual python]

Use cast

[harsh leaf]

I suggest youi carefully read your Mirror Perks

Like, very very carefully

[opaque geyser]

||Demeter|| is utility, but I'd rather have Artemis' power

[magic urchin]

i dont select any cast related mirror perks

[opaque geyser]

I've had cast builds regularly crit for nearly 3k damage lol

[visual python]

I like utility from Demeter, think she makes bosses a cake walk

[floral nacelle]

If you kill things fast enough you don't need defense

[magic urchin]

i really like poseidon and zeus

its suits me

[harsh leaf]

READ THEM

[magic urchin]

sure will do

i hate the butterfly thingy

its annoying asf

[opaque geyser]

To be fair - there are only like 2 cast mirror perks aren't there

[harsh leaf]

Yeah, I imagine he only has a few perks even turned on

[floral nacelle]

Unlock the rest of the mirror too

[magic urchin]

i am in stage like where i need 30 more keys to unlock next stage perks

[floral nacelle]

I think the 30 keys tier is the last one

[magic urchin]

oh k

[floral nacelle]

But it's really good for influencing probability of getting boons and stuff

[ancient junco]

||heat, Demeter|| and saying how you unlock ||heat|| are all spoilers

[harsh leaf]

You should definitely be filling up the rest of the mirror before dumping it all into the +Epic chance perk

[magic urchin]

oh k

[opaque geyser]

Why is ||Demeter|| a spoiler? Channel tag specifies end boss onward as spoilers.

[magic urchin]

also what keepsake did u giys use before clearing 1st time

[visual python]

How’d you do the spoiler stuff on your words

[floral nacelle]

You only see her when you reach the end boss

[ancient junco]

She isn't there from the start

[magic urchin]

|| for mobile discord

[visual python]

Is that II?

[magic urchin]

and select and pin for tagging spoilers in pc

[floral nacelle]

I know I did ares, aphrodite for tartarus and asphodel respectively, and collar for the last two biomes, I think it was

[ancient junco]

||she's unlocked by reaching hades winning is not necessary||

[magic urchin]

like add ||stuff||

[floral nacelle]

I was going for a doom special build on shield

[magic urchin]

add || before and after ||

[opaque geyser]

Thanks, gone back to spoiler everything

[ancient junco]

Not the letter l

It's not a letter

[magic urchin]

i didnt get u

its the key below backspace

[ancient junco]

This thing at the start and the end of the spoiler ||

[visual python]

What is it? How do I get it on Mobile?

[floral nacelle]

blood vial, rose, collar, collar for my first clear

[ancient junco]

Just search around your keyboard's symbols

You should find it somewhere

[visual python]

|| got it I think ||

Thanks

[ancient junco]

No prob mate

[magic urchin]

will hades go on sale during winter sale?

my friend wants to buy it when it is on sale

[ancient junco]

Most likely yes

[visual python]

Honestly worth it off sale

I couldn’t wait lmao

[floral nacelle]

Probably yes

[ancient junco]

I got it at black Friday and now I'm left with 30 bucks on steam waiting for xmas sales

He should check both steam and epic games just in case

[magic urchin]

im in india

so steam is cheaper than epic here

[floral nacelle]

I think I got it during the autumn sale

[ancient junco]

I think steam is everywhere cheaper than epic games but you never know

At least in my country steam is cheaper too

[floral nacelle]

I just favor steam because I think it's more consumer friendly

[magic urchin]

Steam cares about consumers

not like epic

[ancient junco]

Yeah steam is so good sometimes I get keys for steam from other sites with like 80% sale plus

[magic urchin]

epic is cash grabber

[ancient junco]

I have epic for only one reason

The free games

[magic urchin]

gta v free?

[ancient junco]

Not only gta

There is some cool stuff

[magic urchin]

sometimes

but last good game was watchdogs 2 for free

[toxic swift]

I have 1000 hrs in GTA online and I can safely say it's complete trash

[ancient junco]

I saw today a gift coming in 2 days but it's a surprise

[toxic swift]

GTA story mode however is great

[ancient junco]

Oh we got carried away this is not a channel for these stuff

[magic urchin]

yep

[faint umbra]

@magic urchin please dont evade the swear filter!

[toxic swift]

[magic urchin]

oh man this channel has max profane filter ah

[faint umbra]

also yes, please stay on topic you can move to #video-games to discuss this further

[magic urchin]

sure

[fleet locust]

Do any of y'all have recommendations for YouTubers or Twitch people to watch to git gud? Looking for folks who are both mechanically skilled and explain their approach / decisions.

[sly vigil]

Haelian. I can confirm he is mechanically great. He did various impressive feats and made some guide videos.

[leaden whale]

this game is sik

[spring matrix]

loving this game

[visual python]

I can also try and shoot you some tips. If you let me know what you’re struggling with? In general, dash will be your best friend. Use it to close the gap and also evade. It’s also a good idea to break up attack patterns with a dash, especially with shielded enemies as they won’t stagger so will still attack despite a barrage of hits. READ THE BOONS. Like so many times I’ve thought a boon did something it didn’t because I didn’t read it properly. Synergise aswell, build things around your attack, cast or special. For example, extra attack speed and higher attack damage is a simple example. Prioritise the right things when you leave each chamber. If you’re brand new, focus on keys to unlock weapons, and new mirror boosts, later start going for dark elixir (forgot it’s name 😂). You will need to upgrade your mirror a lot. It’s a very good place to start. Know with what bosses what the attack windows are and how their attacks are telegraphed.

[leaden whale]

TLDR : use dash

I also like early jawless paul guides

he should grow the beard back

[real helm]

aaaaa i'm so sad

i was 1 hit away ||from beating hades, unless he has a third phase idk abt yet||

only reason i didnt is cus i choked hard as hell right before and lost one of my death defiances

[leaden whale]

||you'll get him next time||

[real helm]

yeah i'm getting much more comfortable with the game, i'm at a point where i can get thru most rooms taking almost no damage

only things that are still tough for me jn regular rooms are the poison shooty mages in the temple and the butterfly balls in elysium

[leaden whale]

I like to overwhelm the ||satyrs|| and butterfly balls are good to stack your dots and casts and just burn them down. I priority killing those balls over other enemies most of the time

[real helm]

yeah thats what i've been doing a bit too, but goddamn ||poison damage racks up an ungodly amount if yiu get hit||

[harsh leaf]

poison takes a second or so to start ticking so it pays to always be aware of where the mandragora pools are at all times

[real helm]

w--

wait

can u

use the mandragora pools midbattle

[harsh leaf]

...yes

[fleet locust]

Is there a trick to doing dash-shot with the bow? I keep triggering and then immediately cancelling regular shot because I'm not holding it long enough. 😦

[real helm]

AH SO U SEE

[harsh leaf]

Just... hold down the attack button?

[real helm]

THE ISSUE WAS NOT THAT IT WAS HARD, BUT THAT I AM DUMB

[harsh leaf]

Mystery Solved

[fleet locust]

You have to hold down the attack button to dash-shot?

[harsh leaf]

Yes, it's a charge shot just like the regular attack

[leaden whale]

dash shot is just a normal shot that charges way faster

[vestal reef]

I mean, why would you have to use the pool after the fight, the poision automaticlly ends.

[harsh leaf]

It charges faster, so you never want to use regular attacks with the bow. ONLY use dash attacks

[vestal reef]

Doesnt that make artemis dash boon great on bow?

[fleet locust]

Ah, that's the bit I was missing. Didn't realize it also charged.

[harsh leaf]

Yes

Yes it does

[vestal reef]

Never really used the bow that much tbh

[harsh leaf]

You should try it, it's great

[fleet locust]

By the way, no need for the "…". This stuff isn't immediately clear to everyone.

[harsh leaf]

Provided you dash-attack at all times and use special as an occasional shotgun

[vestal reef]

All the times I have, I got the hammer upgrade that makes it automatic with no powershot.

[harsh leaf]

Was it immediately clear the attack was a charged shot?

[vestal reef]

Honestly the special seems really bad. Maybe I'm not using it right, I just use it to clear all the projectiles in fights such as witch circle.

[fleet locust]

Yes.

[harsh leaf]

It's not great, no. An okay way to stack chill or hangover

Good for spraying a room with doom, too, but your main damage is attack

Now Chiron, on the other hand...

[vestal reef]

havent tried chiron, but by the sounds of it. Sounds great with special artemis.

[harsh leaf]

Now you're getting it!

[leaden whale]

@real helm the pools do literally nothing if you wait till after the battle... it's always for mid battle

you automatically get cleared of disease when the battle is over.

[real helm]

ah but you see, thinking of that would imply i had the cognitive abilities of a middle schooler rather than a goldfish

[vestal reef]

relatable

[leaden whale]

relatable

goldfish crackers are money snack for late night playing

[frank wraith]

Yes

[real helm]

hell yeah they are

[leaden whale]

i'm rediscovering all sorts of things as a parent of kids

string cheese was missing from my life for 20 years, but string cheese is great

[frank wraith]

I realized recently Still only 20 btw that there is nothing better than finding something edible and nostalgic that tastes legitimately just as good as you remember it. For instance. Cold Hawaiian Punch

[real helm]

if u can ever find armenian angel hair cheese at an international/middle eastern grocery store, i reccomend it. it's like adult string cheese

[vestal reef]

@harsh leaf you seem to be rather intelligent about Hades stuff. What would you say are the best attack boons for the sword?

[harsh leaf]

That is flattering but very incorrect. For sword, I guess you want Artemis attack and dash, and spam dash attack. Reroll for extra dashes from Hermes

[vestal reef]

Artemis? I thought artemis would be somewhat useless because sword rate of fire.

[harsh leaf]

Which is why you also get her dash

Put Aphro on Special and go for Heart Rend as well

[vestal reef]

Right. Wouldn't Athena Attack be better together with the whole "Deflect attacks make enemies vurnable of backstabs"

[harsh leaf]

And obviously you're really hoping to see Double Edge from a hammer

This works out to be more damage consistently, whereas that would depend a lot on being able to get backstabs, which isnt trivial

Of course, if you're worried about survival, then yeah take Athena. But you asked what was best, so I told you

[vestal reef]

That's true. I will try artemis boons on my run now. I've been stuck on doom effects for a long time but I realized that it limits at a certain point

And doesnt really benefit the swords attribute.

[harsh leaf]

This game is varied and versatile enough that you can pretty much win with whatever, provided you're good enough. So the question becomes "what am I most comfortable with" and "what best complements my playstyle"

Doom is okay on sword special, I guess. But "optimal" sword play is, as mentioned, spamming dash attack

[quiet flower]

When do i get acess to every weapon

[visual python]

lmfaoo dw i did the same thing, after clearing 5 times did i only realise what they did

didnt even know you could drink from them

funny thing is before i bought the game

[austere idol]

I can't seem to find the answer on google, but what did I do to make one of my boons gain a level after an encounter?

[visual python]

my friend brought his switch round, and on my scond run on a fresh save got to hades, but he saw me struggle loads with the poison but didnt wanna tell me cuz 'i was going through the game too fast'

[visual python]

|| you have to get a pomegranate ||

[austere idol]

You misunderstand, it just happened in a popup text "Divine Dash +1" or something after I killed the last mob

It was like only the 2nd encounter after I got it

I cant see anything of mine that gives me that property

Nothing from ||Chaos|| either

[visual python]

careful thats spoilers bro

for new players

[austere idol]

how do I tag it

so i get the blakc

[visual python]

put these symbols ||

before and after text

[austere idol]

ok thx

[visual python]

no worries

but yeah no idea, you sure you didnt have a half pom you picked up?

[austere idol]

No those arent room rewards

[vestal reef]

@austere idol Maybe you have ||the nectar upgrade|| that gives you ||half pom everytime you pick up nectar?||

[harsh leaf]

You have to unlock them

[austere idol]

@vestal reef Not impossible, but I dont remember picking that up ... Is that one of the ||renovation bonuses||?

[vestal reef]

Yes

[austere idol]

Ah ok thats probably what it is then, ill go read that a bit better when I die next

[visual python]

ahhhh you got it wondo

i have that too

and totally forgot it was a thing lmao

[livid ledge]

what's generally the best option to pick from ||Eurydice|| (2nd dungeon optional character), I always pick ||Poms||

[harsh leaf]

Poms is usually best, but the third option can be great if you're fishing for duos or legendaries

[austere idol]

For new players, darkness to level up the mirror should be priority

[harsh leaf]

Wrong NPC 😛

[austere idol]

You are correct.

With that one I decide where I am with what boons I already have

[cursive storm]

how to get the thanatos achievement?

i always beat him

[floral nacelle]

Just keep playing?

[old escarp]

You have to win by a certain threshold if memory serves

[floral nacelle]

Oh, and killstealing from him by knocking enemies out the circle and aiming for enemies with the reaper symbol over their head helps too

[slow moat]

best place to do it is Elesium

imo

[errant bramble]

What does rolling knuckle do to my attack sequence?

[full depot]

Which one is rolling knuckle

@errant bramble

[errant bramble]

It boosts dash strike and “adds to my attack sequence”

I guess I have a 4 attack sequence instead of 3? And the 4th hit is super strong now bc it benefits from all my dash strike boons?

[full depot]

Yea it adds to sequence

I remember someone said that if you get Athena strike on attack you basically can't be hit

Idk if it benefits from your dash boons though

I thought dash strike boons require you to dash strike

[errant bramble]

Yeah not sure. The animation is the same and it says it adds dash strike to your attack sequence

[full depot]

Anyway does anyone know what happens if I put poseidon special on chiron

Do they just get knocked back to the edge of the world or something

@cursive storm think you need 15 kills more than him, I don't remember exactly but it's a constant number above him

[errant bramble]

I bet it has an internal cool down

So you can’t perma knock back stuff

But no idea

[full depot]

I know Zeus has a cool down but idk about poseidon

[harsh leaf]

I believe they do, but havent tried it myself

[full depot]

Am testing it right now but I can't tell if they're being knocked multiple times or it's the first one that carrying them all the way

I think there might be a cool down, it's not working exactly how I expected it to atleast

[jovial aurora]

Are there difficulty modes in hades

[floral nacelle]

There's hell mode, god mode, and just regular (neither god nor hell)

plus ||there are difficulty modifiers in the pact of punishment||

[jovial aurora]

Is hell harder than regular

[errant bramble]

Also sparkle pony mode.

[floral nacelle]

Hell starts with 5 heat, and you can only get personal liability there

which disables brief invincibility if you get a large hit

[jovial aurora]

Ok. if/when i get hades for christmas i will start with regular

[floral nacelle]

but regular can become almost as difficult as hell mode, since it's just missing personal liability

[jovial aurora]

Personal liability?

[floral nacelle]

Hell mode exclusive - disables brief invincibility after a large hit

[jovial aurora]

Ok. Hades looks so fun

[vapid marten]

hey!! any advice how to defeat bone hydra???

[harsh leaf]

Yeah, don't get hit

And definitely don't dash into the lava

[errant bramble]

If you just wait long enough, his invincibility will go away. Just keep waiting!

Not sure really tho. Hydra by far the easiest boss for me

It’s almost not even a boss

[vapid marten]

hmmm, okay

thanks

[errant bramble]

Not sure what specifically you’re having issues with?

Dodge his crap, kill the adds, dodge crap, kill adds