h1-for-new-players

[leaden whale]

I didn't mean that at all

It just feels better to me having like something more than just dying and trying again

[tidal condor]

Gungeon is just not fun to me

There’s no feeling of improvement

Just feels like you get a good weapon and go further, or don’t and get creamed

[leaden whale]

I mean some roguelikes do have a hub with some cool stuff, but the way I got introduced to them was basically "oh you died? try again with the same health and attack and defense"

[hallow bay]

I’m afraid that’s not it sorry

[leaden whale]

I think some get it right and some get it wrong

[steady island]

not all of the house characters are in the house all the time

[leaden whale]

Cerberus is best doggo

[tidal condor]

Sometimes Cerberus goes to his part time job don’t worry about it

[leaden whale]

His part-time job is a pizza delivery driver

[hallow bay]

differences are good, like different weapons and characters, starter items, modifiers, but objective upgrades are not so good. I don’t like the kinda darkness or cells grind

like ror2, no metacurrency (lunar coins are fine I think)

[tidal condor]

Not quite

[leaden whale]

I mean I was just trying to be a dumb funny guy

Goofy 🤪

[hallow bay]

silly guy

[tidal condor]

You’ll find out later, perhaps

[leaden whale]

Yeah I'm not playing right now

[hallow bay]

cerberus is cheating on you and getting pets from charon

[leaden whale]

wait I'm in a relationship with cerberus...?

[hallow bay]

loyal good boy

[leaden whale]

I'm sure he'll wait for me to be ready to play again when I'm uhhh sober

I did get to Meg while not sober and I wasn't dying until like almost 25% of her health gone. Am I seriously that skilled...?

[tidal condor]

You’re probably the Hades champion and don’t even realize it yet

Can’t believe our good luck to get in on the ground floor with you

[leaden whale]

I'm also a new game designer 😎

[leaden whale]

Imagine I accidentally beat Meg while I'm like looking at my phone

[heavy phoenix]

Does giving hades nectar do anything

[livid ermine]

yep

[outer flint]

when it lets you give him

[tidal condor]

It does nothing

The first time

[outer flint]

yes

[steady island]

it does something but you don't get an item for it like from others

[leaden whale]

Cerberus is absolute best doggo

[leaden whale]

I uhh was not expecting Aphrodite's design to be... That

[hollow hull]

Me when the goddess of sexual love is…

[leaden whale]

I was like "WOAH MAMI"

[leaden whale]

HOLY CRAP I BEAT MEG AT 10 HEALTH

[topaz dew]

First time? What wep?

[leaden whale]

Nah like 7th time I think

[topaz dew]

Getting the hang of the fight then

[leaden whale]

I kept dying during the multiple projectile phase

[ember shore]

what am I looking for with fists no aspect? I guess zues on attack? then what. also, what's the combo rotation for fists. and maybe hammers and poms to spend

[hollow hull]

Zeus or dio on attack work

Ideal build is merciful end, with ares on attack, and Athena on special and dash

[ember shore]

I see

[heavy phoenix]

How do i get demeter to even exist, ive found all of the gods plenty of times but never her

[faint umbra]

||you need to reach the final boss||

[heavy phoenix]

Oh alr

Odd that she's ||entirely gated off before postgame||

[outer flint]

kinda? you dont ||have to beat the final boss, just reach their chamber. post game is after you beat the final boss||

[tidal condor]

It’s less odd with context - you’ll understand once you unlock her

[hallow bay]

I forgor can I get the dialogue

[tidal condor]

Wat

[hallow bay]

the context

[heavy phoenix]

Im assuming ||she knows stuff about Zag's mom||

[tidal condor]

That’s not the context I meant, but you’re also not wrong

[outer flint]

context that was meant was mostly: ||you reached the surfice, i can sense you now blah blah blah. I dont remember it all||

[hallow bay]

which aspects are significantly better when maxed rather than level 1 and just unlocked? I have titan blood to splash around

[steady lark]

hestia

eris

theres a pin here for that

https://i.imgur.com/NP6KN7I.png

[hallow bay]

secret aspects aren’t shown here?

[steady lark]

yeah this is the new players chat

so cant

[hallow bay]

brb see you in discussion

[tidal condor]

The chart was made for new players to spend their limited 6 blood pre-win

I don’t believe there’s a version that includes the hidden

[hallow bay]

it’s no biggie anyway

[heavy phoenix]

How do i unlock secret stashes

[dusty vault]

Ambrosia to specific characters

[leaden whale]

Should I take Chaos or Ambrosia? I'm on my 10th run currently

Eh I'll just go Ambrosia

[hollow hull]

You mean nectar

[leaden whale]

Then why did someone call it Ambrosia

[hollow hull]

Nectar and ambrosia are different

[tidal condor]

Ambrosia is what you get for beating the 3rd boss

Nectar is

[leaden whale]

Oh so I'm not getting it for probably a month

[tidal condor]

Anyway to answer your question: early on, nectar is pretty high priority because you have so little and it has a lot of initial use

But, meeting chaos for the first time is also a priority, as is gifting them nectar twice

[leaden whale]

Yeah already got chaos once I was just kinda like "is chaos worth it for this run?"

answer: might've actually killed me faster

i died to meg at 1 hp

[novel pivot]

hi do u know who i have to give ambrosia i miss the 8 and the last artefact

[hollow hull]

Orpheus and ||hades||

[hallow bay]

give it a few days

[flint hazel]

I did not expect this game to be this challenging man holy

[heavy phoenix]

Welcome to roguelikes

[stray rose]

Any good dash recommendations. I kinda stopped using divine dash to challenge myself since i abused it a lot.

[dusty vault]

Tidal dash if you want the most raw dmg

The rest are kinda so so

Hunter's cool for like zag bow/hidden bow/nem
Blade dash can be fun if you don't wanna deal with the knockback

[stray rose]

Yeah i've tried tidal dash and it's pretty good for dmg in crowds, blade dash is kinda eh to me.

[dusty vault]

The rest are pretty much whatever

I'd take them for duos at most

~~and that's just passion dadh really ~~

[leaden whale]

Well because I was forced to make a new Microsoft account, I can't play Hades now. Thanks Microsoft for not actually removing my email and requiring it for verification 😊

[lament parrot]

i finally beat the final boss after 33 attempts, is that good or do i suck

[novel swift]

That's pretty good!

[lament parrot]

i see, im playin hades on mobile soo

[tidal condor]

Unfortunate

[lament parrot]

play hades mobile

[leaden whale]

I've never seen it on Google play

[dusty vault]

Is ios only

And through netflix

[leaden whale]

Lmao

[lament parrot]

ye

its peak tho

[leaden whale]

yeah okay but I can't afford an iPhone 😂

[lament parrot]

emulator

[leaden whale]

bruh I'm not getting an emulator I only have one phone and it's a Google Pixel, if I even download the apk, it will corrupt my system

[faint umbra]

its also on steam, and will probably go on sale this month 🕵️ also please refrain from discussing piracy of the game here

[leaden whale]

Plus my birthday is literally the 21st and I can probably just be like "hey can I just get the game?"

I mean it sucks that I can't buy it because I already spent my money but whatever it's not like I'm dying in a month

[hollow hull]

It’s not that good on iPhone anyways lol

[leaden whale]

Lmaooo

Any console game is pretty much automatically crap on mobile unless it was specifically designed to work on mobile as well as consoles. Like Slay The Spire works, but games with higher graphics requirements don't work that well no matter how expensive the phone is

Diablo Immortal is way worse than just being pay-to-win 99% of the time, it requires so much quality that it will crash even the newest Galaxy

[hollow hull]

Wait how did these even happen?

You play through game pass?

[leaden whale]

It's not on game pass that's why I can't get it

[faint umbra]

its on the regular store as well, i think

[leaden whale]

Microsoft for some reason doesn't actually remove an email and still requires it for verification and since I'm getting rid of Google eventually I wouldn't be able to access the account anymore

[cedar delta]

Can you not change the registered email?

[leaden whale]

Again, Microsoft doesn't actually remove the email

[cedar delta]

Change the email

[leaden whale]

Yeah I did that, they still send emails and still require the gmail for verification and it's actually so much of a problem they have an entire page in the community support area for it that pretty much says "it's impossible to remove the email from our servers"

[hollow hull]

You don’t have it through steam?

[leaden whale]

I don't own a working PC

[hollow hull]

Very confused as to your situation ngl

[leaden whale]

I have a desktop that's so old it would probably blow up if I launched any game newer than 2002

The only thing I have that's actually working is my Series S and eventually I'm switching to the new 2 TB Series X with disc drive so I have more storage for cool games and I can actually watch my DVDs again

Also this Microsoft problem already happened this year, I had to completely forget about an account because for some reason it was still linked to a deleted gmail and support is absolutely useless when asking about it

[cedar delta]

I think most companies won't remove registered email addresses

[leaden whale]

Yeah I changed it and it's still on the account

[cedar delta]

I love ambiguous antecedents >.<

[leaden whale]

Yeah I mean whatever I have non-google emails so I just made a new account with one of those and I'm going to delete the old account as soon as my game pass refund comes in

Plus I'm not even 30 and I get like $70 just for games a month so this isn't even that bad. Just sucks that I already spent the money on stuff and now I can't access it cuz Microsoft is weird

[tidal condor]

I would simply have the same Gmail account for 20 years

[leaden whale]

I had a gmail for like 15 years but it got completely flooded with scams and nothing was really out yet that would clean that up

[cedar delta]

Did you make it clear to Microsoft support that you no longer have access to the email address associated with your Microsoft account?

[leaden whale]

Yes and they literally said "Live chat is unavailable for this issue" and gave me a link to the default change email steps

[hallow fern]

Hey i just got this game and played for an hour but i am really confused can someone guide me

[tidal condor]

What are you confused about

[steady lark]

ur goal is reach the surface, to do so u have to pass through a certain number of areas each with a certain number of combat rooms followed by a boss

[cedar delta]

This is kinda the equivalent of staring at your teacher while wearing your best puzzled expression and hoping she can read your mind. Could you be more specific?

[steady lark]

hey this works

[livid ermine]

Sure:
I've assumed you've died at least once so we'll start at the house of Hades.
After approaching Hades and exploring the house turn right and head through Zagreus' room (inside Zagreus' room on the left wall is a mirror which grants permanent upgrades which cost "darkness" - save up 50 darkness to get "greater reflex" which gives you an extra dash and afterwards 30 darkness for "death defiance")
to the weapon selection room:
At the moment you have 4 unlockable weapons (which will expand to 6 each with more variations), "keys" are needed to unlock these and I'd recommend the spear as the first priority since the attacks have a long range.
The basics for how to use the weapons requires use of attacks/specials/dashstrikes (dashstrikes are dash followed quickly by an attack). - feel free to remap the controls from the pause menu if you aren't happy with the keybindings.
Go through the purple door to do an "escape attempt"

Oh and I suggest you die at least 3 times and are on at least escape attempt 4, the game restricts the upgrades throughout the run available until around this point.

[hallow fern]

Well mainly like what is the goal, what is the best gear, what's the best way to win, how do I heal, what are the best power ups

[hallow fern]

I already have 3

And I died like probably 6-7 times already ig

[faint umbra]

the best part is figuring it out yourself enjoy your first playthrough and optimize later

[cedar delta]

That's...quite a lot actually. Unless you really want to know like right now, I'd actually suggest just discovering stuff organically for a bit: the game's quite good at giving you information steadily

[hallow fern]

Well can you at least tell me how can I heal

[cedar delta]

The only tip I'd really emphasize for now is to talk to everybody whenever you can, especially if they have an exclamation point above their head

[hallow fern]

Yea I do

[livid ermine]

Would recommend prioritising athena since she's the "defensive" god. Healing can either be purchased at shop or you can get a mirror upgrade that heals you after every room

shops appear after chamber 5ish

[hallow fern]

I see

[cedar delta]

poshboy too quick!

[hallow fern]

Sweet ty

[cedar delta]

Even if we told you all the information now, it would probably end up as a case of "in one ear, out the other": there's just sooooo much you can learn

It's probably best to learn a lot of it organically then build from there so you know "why" something's strong, etc. etc.

[hallow fern]

I just finished hollow knight (got the platinum) so I need some other game to grind and I ended up picking hades

[cedar delta]

That's nuts. You're definitely more skilled than I am!

In that case, you'll probably learn pretty quickly

[tidal condor]

As Zagreus says in a voice line, “can’t heal….but I can fight”

[cedar delta]

I think part of the reason we're discouraging hyper optimization from the get-go is that dying is actually pretty productive in Hades

[tidal condor]

Healing opportunities are few

You can find healing fountains after bosses, and healing snacks in shops

[hallow fern]

I mean I died at least 500 times while playing HK so yea I can imagine that

Does the power up stack in this game

Like first I get a power from Zeus then ares

[steady lark]

ur still playing hollow knight

[cedar delta]

You have some meta progression via the weapons and the mirror, but boons only persist for the duration of each run

[hallow fern]

It's fun

[cedar delta]

Are you familiar with the roguelite genre?

[hallow fern]

Not really

I just got recommendation to try Hades, watched a couple of IGN reviews

[steady lark]

play nine sols if u liked holloknight

[hallow fern]

I will once it's on sale

Outta my budget rn

[steady lark]

fair enough

[cedar delta]

Roguelites are half about progressing your own skill and half about progressing your character (in this case via upgrading the Mirror of Night and your weapons). The gameplay of roguelites tends to be about failing, then improving and getting further, then failing again, etc. until you can finally reach the end

Hades (and Hades 2) are really unique among roguelites for giving you a lot to do after each failure other than upgrading your meta progression unlocks or heading back to the entrance to start another run

Hades: dying is fun

[hallow fern]

I see

[cedar delta]

Oh gosh. Telling you about the meta now would probably be like explaining every HK charm combo, parry timing, animation cancel, spell iframes, Radiant Markoth, etc. to a brand new HK player

[hallow fern]

I never really cared about charm combo I just did whatever suit best for me

[cedar delta]

Steady Body charm 😎

[steady lark]

steady body is peak

no steady body slander

[cedar delta]

Absolutely broken, that 'un

[hallow fern]

i mean it would be cool steam offered platinum but oh well a ribbon is fine

[cedar delta]

You can show off your cool 100% games!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627213690306822163/1292727232334139492/image.png?ex=6704c98d&is=6703780d&hm=727421d49106d925f328149055eab17f763d4ae065df9024ee988f5041f64b7a&

[hallow fern]

oh didnt knew there was a page like this in steam

[cedar delta]

Steam profile pages are very, very customizable

[steady lark]

some games achievements are just boring and grindy

[cedar delta]

cough Final Fantasy XIV cough

[hallow fern]

well time to grind hades now

[steady lark]

just for the 100% or

[cedar delta]

help people who platinum Hollow Knight are scary

[steady lark]

why

[faint umbra]

i used to be so obsessed with completing every achievement on every game i owned and what it led to is anxiety about playing any game if i couldnt 100% it on the first go

[cedar delta]

They're either superhuman or not human at all

[steady lark]

the most timetaking part is the annoying new file stuff

[faint umbra]

so yes, achievements are stupid. i like them, but theyre stupid

[steady lark]

so i didnt evne bother

[steady lark]

yes i was like that until like

a month or so ago

[cedar delta]

Hollow Knight and Crypt of the Necrodancer made me give up on 100% LOL

[steady lark]

oh

[faint umbra]

my friend 100% the binding of isaac, believe in yourself. anything is possible if you put thousands of hours into it

[hallow fern]

I have 57 hrs in that game

That too collected in a week

[steady lark]

wow

[hallow fern]

When the community told me me you'd lose, I smiled and said "nah I'd win"

[cedar delta]

Mazu = new jazz?!

[steady lark]

i have 350 hk hours and habvent done any of the new save achievemnts

[hallow fern]

It's ok

[steady lark]

whats ok

[hallow fern]

ok so hades= trial and error

[hallow fern]

giving up

[steady lark]

wdym\

[hallow fern]

like giving up on the platinum

i gave up on batman arkham city

[steady lark]

yeah i dont go for platinums or its steam equivalent

especially if u have to go out of ur way to get them

[hallow fern]

anyway @cedar delta if you had to rate hades in terms of difficulty in order to get the platinum how much will you

[cedar delta]

For a HK platinum player it'll be like a 3/10 with some time and luck

[steady lark]

theres nothing difficult

you will get all of them as you complete the whole story

[hallow fern]

i dont understand the controls of this game tbh, like doesnt it have aim assist like cod

my enemy is somewhere and i am hitting somewhere else

[steady lark]

kbm or controller

[hallow fern]

kbm

well just pure keyboard

i hate using mouse

[steady lark]

woah pls use mouse

[hallow fern]

i cant

i forgot my mouse in the office...

and now i cant get it until wednesday

[faint umbra]

some achievements rely on RNG heavily but for the most part its not extremely difficult or extremely easy

anyway the settings have aim assist

[cedar delta]

Inb4 Mazu 64 ||heat|| in like 3 weeks

[steady lark]

which

[faint umbra]

bad call

[steady lark]

heavily rng is pushing it, it will happen naturally as you go for true ending

[cedar delta]

Getting Meg to show up for the companion LOL 130 runs

[hallow fern]

sorry i didnt understood

wot

[faint umbra]

i had to really try for it because even when ||i got to the second trial, i had to get hit so much to generate call without killing all the enemies||

[cedar delta]

It's an extremely optional challenge that the devs didn't think was humanly possible. It's not acknowledged by the game

[steady lark]

you can just respawn an ely eyeball over and over

[faint umbra]

yep, which isnt exactly happening naturally

[hallow fern]

oh i am actually asking about the controls

[steady lark]

when i consciously went for it it only took me like 2-3 tries idk

[hallow fern]

like i am trying to hit someone but my character is shooting compeletely elsewhere

[steady lark]

yeah u need mosue

mouse

[hallow fern]

alright, guess no hades until wednesday

[hallow bay]

what does an elite room reward bonus do for boons? I know it doubles material rewards (100->200 obols, 25->50 mino heart) but not boons

[steady lark]

rarity boost

[hallow bay]

similarly, as an elite room, do god trials give that bonus to one or both of the boons

[steady lark]

no trials dont have any rarity difference

but u cant get duos on trials

[hallow bay]

just the duo between those two or like no duos at all

[steady lark]

no duos

[hallow bay]

damn ok good to know

[steady lark]

yeah its one of the things that arent mentioned at all in the game

[hallow fern]

Hey when i open hades it ask me if it should run default or vulcan whats the difference

[faint umbra]

if your game runs fine, you should run default

you can also save your launch setting so you dont need to choose every time (you can still change it later, of course)

[hallow bay]

if you already hit the 4 god cap and force a different one through the keepsake, does the run have 5 gods in the pool? or is it just a one off boon

[tidal condor]

It’s added to the pool

Dilutes your chances of seeing any particular god

[hallow bay]

how tf do you deal with middle management styx bosses

[tidal condor]

Kill them

Preferably before they kill you

I don’t remember any of them being particularly bad

[hallow bay]

barrage from satyr and 80% of the ground inaccessible from big rat

say is there any way to practice bosses? I have trouble with the final boss

[steady lark]

you could make savestates

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829725138144329758/1292806768581279754/eGKeVeD.png?ex=670513a0&is=6703c220&hm=a2fcd380852e19bbee38b3ab590baa057cc7fcc07ca937ae15e98a7f3d11ff5c&

[hallow bay]

I’m on console so I think the best I got is savequitting before leaving styx and reloading the game before dying?

[steady lark]

do you have megs companion yet

[hallow bay]

that would’ve been a good idea yeah

[steady lark]

you cant quit if you take damage

[hallow bay]

I forget to use companions

[dusty vault]

That just counts as give up for the game iirc

[hallow bay]

the alt f4 in question?

[steady lark]

that will end the run

[hallow bay]

zarn

[steady lark]

but as long as u dont take damage u can quit

[dusty vault]

I think you can use acorn and the game still allows you to quit?

[steady lark]

so if u take acorn u can tank upto 5 hits and still quit

[hallow bay]

interesting

[hallow fern]

does this game offer checkpoints or nah cause i beat meg and got out of tarturas but later i died and had to start all over

[steady lark]

no

thats how roguelites work

[hallow bay]

there’s no respawn checkpoint but you can save and quit during a run to carry on later but each run takes like 20-40 minutes anyway so only in a pinch

[steady lark]

once u start understanding no run should take more than 20 mins igt

[hallow bay]

in my experience it’s like 20-30 mins but I’m trying to cut down on time

[somber frigate]

I mean the condition was “once you start understanding” so you’re likely just not there yet

[hallow bay]

I think I understand, game mechanics and enemies, I’m just bad, I know the attack patterns but my timing just sucks, and the greed to attack instead gets me hit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594662203781545985/1293256701411065927/image0.jpg

[steady lark]

literally me

[cedar delta]

Is it like a hand-eye coordination thing?

[sweet brook]

real tbh

[hallow bay]

not sure. I don’t notice me having those issues but my mum does

it could be, I just thought I’m bad

[cedar delta]

Oh sometimes I feel like I do! Like jazz says anybody can sub-something, but I feel like I literally don't have the speed or coordination to do so!

[steady lark]

ur better than like most hades players

dw

[cedar delta]

Thanks!

[steady lark]

both of yo'

[hallow bay]

I have an affinity for sucking in most games is the thing, especially prevalent when i’m trying some super hard challenge

it might be that I process everything a bit slower, not necessarily reaction time, I just react with a bad play

don’t know if that ties into sucking at the fishing minigame, always get the slow pool fish

[cedar delta]

Saaame! Like I watched some Hollow Knight pros fighting the highest difficulty boss rushes, and I can just tell they're reacting much, much more quickly and smoothly than I

[steady lark]

dont worry me too

i just make up for it by putting in more hours

[hallow bay]

maaaan I struggled so bad on hollow knight.

[steady lark]

like i just bang my head against something long enough until i finally beat it

[cedar delta]

Shrimp, how do you look at the bobber? Do you use your peripheral vision? Maybe not even look at all but use sound?

[steady lark]

fishing was pain for me cuz my reaction time sucks

[hallow bay]

then again that was before I mellowed out and took loss in stride. maybe I still struggle but just notice it less.

at times I wish I could try hollow knight again blind, not for experiencing it again like you’d think, but just to see if I’ve gotten better at games

[steady lark]

like i played dead cells for like 4 -5 hours today and couldnt make it past 2-3 bioms

[hallow bay]

I watch the bobber, but I feel like I react to the sound, even hover my finger over the button differently so it can fall faster

[hallow bay]

ah but you’re new to it (hard roguelike, that’s expected)

[steady lark]

i have 10 hours on it so far

definitely below average

[cedar delta]

Okay! I was wondering because I started with the very same method you're using, but I eventually settled on keeping the bobber deep in my peripheral vision and watching for the flash instead

[hallow bay]

by react to the sound I mean like, I’ll reel in in some kinda cascade sync to the noise,
(like if you tap your fingers, rolling knuckle across the table, that kinda sync, just a bit after)

don’t know how to describe it

[hallow bay]

a flash?

[dusty vault]

For fish I count instead

If it takes more than 1-2s is always fake

[cedar delta]

Yeah! When you get a bite, there's a brief, bright flash

[dusty vault]

And if its 3 fake bites then the 4th is always guaranteed

[hallow bay]

you see my ‘about me’?
dead cells is one of those

screen share me I will guide you

[hallow bay]

the issues not about catching fakes, but I do know their patterns regardless

[steady lark]

do u plan on adding hades to that

[cedar delta]

Maybe you could try looking for the flash instead! I feel like that's far more obvious and therefore easier to react to (quickly)

I'd be super chuffed if that helped you

[hallow bay]

I don’t think I could exactly get experience with high heat and the actual gameplay up there but I like hades so I’m building the catalogue in me

most my knowledge is objective numbers, but given that hades is about all that combined, and tips being high heat strats and skill/gamesense rather than synergy, I’ll be less effective with it

[steady lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[steady lark]

thats fair if ur not into pb pushing

[tidal condor]

To an extent, heat is mechanics

And synergy

[faint umbra]

i as well memorized the fish bobs already (i have played this game a lot lol) but just in case, i put my finger on an adjacent key until i hear the sound to reel it and then i just move it over

so if my finger twitches i dont misclick

[cedar delta]

How do you react in time to get a Perfect Catch even with having to move your finger over?

[faint umbra]

R and E are so close i just need to to move it much

just tip it a little

[cedar delta]

Oh hm. I'm having a hard time imagining moving that quickly, but you're definitely more of a gamer than I am

[tidal condor]

For me listening for the sound messes me up

I only look at the bobber and flash

[hallow bay]

I don’t care who you are I will teach anyone anything I know
hit me up if you’re gonna play dead cells I would like to see this sharescreen

[steady lark]

oka

[sweet brook]

real

tbf i got my first clear pretty fast, it's just every other run after that with BC that i can't do lmfao

[hallow bay]

the bc climb isnt that bad honestly

I know some people get stuck on 2 or 3

[lethal wharf]

Do different league and bronze skin stack?

[final dune]

yeah

but thats like

a really useless idea

[lethal wharf]

Oh I wasn’t going for it I have both of them and was wondering if they stacked so I could purge one for coin

But for now, I’ll keep my 28% resistance

[hollow hull]

damage resistance stacks multiplicatively

[tidal condor]

My favorite damage resistance is killing the enemy before it hits me

[hallow fern]

How do I upgrade my weapons? I have 2 Titan blood with me but I can't figure out how to open up the menu

[outer flint]

Do you have the weapons all unlocked?

[hallow fern]

i have until those punching bags

[outer flint]

You gotta unlock all before you can upgrade

iirc

[hallow fern]

I see, thanks

[lament parrot]

Can I get multiple fish in 1 run

Or only 1 fish per run

[cedar delta]

Multiple fish per run

[lament parrot]

K

[somber frigate]

~it’s closer to 26.2%

Making some assumptions about what your different league and bronze skin’s raw % actually were

[stray rose]

So wait I gave Meg all my ambrosia and the pop up appeared saying bond forged but I didn't get the achievement. Is there something else i have to do ?

[faint umbra]

Which achievement are you after?

[stray rose]

Grown close.

[tidal condor]

When in doubt do another run

[normal cradle]

Ok I also had this problem, and the (infuriating) solution was "you have to move the cursor to the +1"..far right.... if you highlight just the weapon name, it doesn't upgrade. Click over one more. I don't think I had to have all the weapons unlocked to do upgrades, but I will be honest, this stymied me for kiiiind of a long time, so maybe it was also a thing...

[cedar delta]

Weapon UI seems like a common sticking point

[tidal condor]

You absolutely have to unlock all weapons before you can spend blood, just to clear that up

[normal cradle]

Weapon UI, and let's uhh not ... Discuss how long it took me to figure out where to click to switch the mirror effects back and forth, that one was also a pretty solid 🤬 moment

[stray rose]

So turns out the game didn't save the part where i gave her ambrosia and when I replayed it yesterday it unlocked the achievement. Idk why it didn't unlock the first time.

[cedar delta]

Did you enter a different room after gifting her?

[stray rose]

No, pretty sure. Idk it's weird.

[cedar delta]

You need to enter a new room after completing a conversation in order to have it "register"

[worn wadi]

what is this item in charons shop?

its like a money bag with gold decorations on it

its 125 coins

[raw coral]

It's a random boon

[odd berry]

boon of a random god
pick of 3 again like you do normal
think it can give duo's too

[outer flint]

it can give duos

[dusty vault]

The only thing that blocks duos are the trials rooms

[odd berry]

well there you go then

[split mantle]

okay guys I just beat my first run and have 2 ambrosia. How am i supposed to unlock companions? I cant get the prompt to give anyone my ambrosia.

[dusty vault]

Gift enough nectar > do quest for character (often is just talk more) > ability to gift ambrosia unlocked for that chara

[outer flint]

what do i do when they won't let me give nectar? just keep doing runs?

[dusty vault]

Pretty much

If you wanna know the specific quest you need for the character they are all on the wiki

[outer flint]

alr ty

[split mantle]

thanks

also how do i unlock other aspects on my weapons? as of just before my winning run I could only upgrade aspect of zagreus

[dusty vault]

Click the lock instead of the aspect

[split mantle]

aight

what aspect would you reccomend for the fists

[dusty vault]

Demeter

[stray rose]

So what does the bloodstone do on Beowulf, does it just amp the attack ?

[merry nest]

Attack damage and cast damage are separate

[hollow hull]

Pops at the end of your bullrush

Very strong

[stray rose]

I'm trying out all the hidden aspects it just feels like half of them suck eggs like Guan Yu.

[broken girder]

they are good once you can play them well (well except || luci and gilga||) and you should always follow the advice of hypnos of not getting hit, makes || guan yu || a lot more bearable

[tidal condor]

This is pretty accurate depending on which half you think are the weak ones

Shield is strong and fast, sword and bow are strong but not particularly fast

[cedar delta]

Guan Yu is great though! Just needs Charged Skewer. And there's also a spin setup, but I don't know it well

[tidal condor]

Guan Pu

[sweet brook]

Hidden rail and spear both need a specific hammer to be good

Rail less so but you want triple bomb for a lot more damage

[outer kraken]

From my perspective, two are unusable, three are fun, one is great (its the fists)

From the rest community’s, two are great, two are alright, and two are garbage/unusable (one of them is the fists)

[outer flint]

isn't fists used for speedrunning?

[outer kraken]

fists in general, yeah, but the hidden aspect, god no

At least to my understanding

[outer flint]

mb

i remember hearing it randomly

idk where

[dusty vault]

There's categories for each weapon so every weapon/aspect has its spot

[outer kraken]

According to everybody here at least, gilgamesh is one of the worst aspects for speed

[sweet brook]

You counted 7 in the last bit lmao

[sweet brook]

It's the worst in general lmao

[hollow hull]

everything can be used for speedrunning

[outer kraken]

i’m not gonna go do my defending speil

[outer flint]

do it please

i want to know more about it

[hollow hull]

it's just "i like it and i don't care that it's garbage"

nothing new

[outer kraken]

Well i like gilgamesh, most people here don’t, a lot of people here are in the speed running/high heat community

[outer flint]

worst defense ive ever heard

[outer kraken]

I play for fun so I don’t care if it’s considered “bad”

[sweet brook]

You're free to like it, it's just widely regarded as not good lmao

[outer flint]

you might aswell make a copy pasta of your defense

[sweet brook]

Cherry is the gilga expert and he still speedruns it regularly

Has a lot of cool techs and whatnot on YouTube

[hollow hull]

'considered bad' doesn't even do its lack of quality justice

[outer kraken]

Its also cuz I don’t see the things people dont like as THAT bad

[hollow hull]

there's no way to look at it that makes it a good aspect other than dash only

[outer kraken]

The dashes take getting used to and maim is just free doom

[outer flint]

"free"

[hollow hull]

maim is one of the worst designed mechanics in the game

[cedar delta]

Incredibly slow, incredibly weak Doom maybe

[sweet brook]

25% more global is fun tho I like that part

[outer flint]

don't you take extra dmg from maimed enemies?

[cedar delta]

You're definitely allowed to say you enjoy Gilgamesh, but trying to say it's good? Well....

[hollow hull]

yeah it's like 50% more damage taken

[outer kraken]

That only matters if you get hit

[hollow hull]

🗿

you like it, but it's bad. There's just two different levels we're talking on, and saying 'i don't care' doesn't work as a defense

[sweet brook]

Gilga is also one of the aspects where you're most likely to get hit more lmao

[tidal condor]

It doesn’t have to be good for you to like it

[outer flint]

cuz slow atk speed?

[tidal condor]

You don’t have to defend it against “is bad”

[hollow hull]

it's just a fists

[outer kraken]

i havent really had that problem

[hollow hull]

attack speed is...fine, but fists are just melee by design, so they're more dangerous

[outer kraken]

yeah

i live for the danger

The jankiness

[sweet brook]

That and also shorter dashes and short range

[outer flint]

what heat are we considering here?

[hollow hull]

you're also playing on ||6 heat||

[outer kraken]

yeah

[sweet brook]

In general really

[outer kraken]

thats fair

[outer flint]

that puts everything into more consideration

[hollow hull]

i imagine no FO2, and when you get hit it doesn't matter that muchh

[outer kraken]

I’m working my way up, my highest clear is gilga on 6

[tidal condor]

Me when Gilgamesh’s staunchest fan can’t beat 80 Heat with Gilgamesh

[outer kraken]

im not SUPER good, and i take long breaks from playing

Listen, when i get to that point yall will be the first to hear of it

[outer flint]

bet

[hollow hull]

Honestly real

[sweet brook]

Unfortunately cherry doesn't like heat lmao

[outer kraken]

Point is, i think it gets a bad rap cuz of it being “too” different from its base weapon and people see the changes as direct downgrades or hinderances, when its just different

[sweet brook]

I did get him to do a short bit of heat once but it was very short lived

[hollow hull]

No that’s literally not why

[outer flint]

no its an almost direct down grade

[hollow hull]

A lot of aspects are more different than gilga and are much better

Lucifer, beo, Rama come to mind

[outer flint]

what weapon is rama? i forgor

[sweet brook]

Being different isn't bad lmao guan Yu, luci, beo, and rama are all very different from the normal weapons but they're all actually good

[hollow hull]

Bow

[outer flint]

ty

[hollow hull]

Like, you’re not talking to people who just haven’t played it enough lol

[outer flint]

since when is guan yu good? ive always heard people say its bad

[sweet brook]

It cleared 64 heat lmfao

[outer kraken]

it also depends what you shove up it though

[sweet brook]

And can be used in hitless runs

[outer kraken]

again, i embrace the jank

And play weird

[hollow hull]

Guan yu is an actual good aspect though

[outer kraken]

it is

less health 🚫

[sweet brook]

Guan Yu was always good, we just didn't figure out how to use it well until recently unironically

[outer flint]

that makes sense then

[hollow hull]

Bit rough for speed but very strong for heat

[sweet brook]

Charged skewer is also really strong but one dimensional and boring

[outer flint]

most of my information is outdated

ig

[sweet brook]

Aether discovered the spin was good basically and got a record with 60 heat iirc, playad took it and used an animation cancel tech discovered on bow and applied it to guan Yu to clear 64 heat

[outer kraken]

Also if anything, gilga being “worse” makes it a more fun challenge, isnt that what yall want?

[hollow hull]

No, it’s very much less fun

And feels terrible to play

[outer flint]

a challenge should be rewarding, like higher heat being rewarding kinda. Gilga isn't rewarding for most people

[sweet brook]

The issue is that playing gilga isn't fun lmao

[hollow hull]

There’s a challenge to be had on every aspect, gilga being worse doesn’t make its challenge any more special

[outer flint]

gilga feels like sad

[sweet brook]

People would rather use good/usable aspects to clear high heats rather than a worse aspect and clear "lower" heats

[hollow hull]

Also good aspects just feel better and less frustrating to play

[outer kraken]

well wouldn’t clearing said high heat with a weapon not many people have done it with BE more rewarding?

[hollow hull]

We should move to #h1-builds-and-combat btw

[sweet brook]

If you want to play gilga and be an expert on it go ahead, I just wouln't call it good lmao

[green wolf]

hey small question

so i wanted to get lucifer on my railgun, i invested 5 titan bloods in Eris and before that also had guan yu unlocked. i talked to zeus and i still cant unlock lucifer

is there something i am missing?

[sweet brook]

Rng lmao

[green wolf]

oh

😭

[sweet brook]

Keep trying and you'll get it eventually

[green wolf]

well damn

[sweet brook]

Yeah unfortunate

[green wolf]

alr ty!

ig i gotta put on zeus's keepsake and hope for the best

oh and uh is there a consistent way to farm titan blood? cause the bosses dont give titan blood anymore aside from hades...

[dusty vault]

Have you beat the final boss?

[green wolf]

mhm

i have beated him twice

he does give 1 titan blood

[dusty vault]

Gotta use the ||pact of punishment||

[green wolf]

ohhhh

how do we get titan blood from that again?

is it per amount of how many heat i have?

[dusty vault]

The loop is
||Set heat to whatever it asks for > bounties are refreshed > win the run > increase heat by +1||

[green wolf]

ohhh

oh bet

ima copy paste this

[dusty vault]

If you don't complete the run you can't further increase to get more bounties ||so if you are doing heat 1 and kill heroes but fail to kill dad, increasing to heat 2 won't refresh your bounties||

[green wolf]

i see alrighty

[dusty vault]

How do I get more blood

• beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood.
• final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood.
  other sources:
  trading for it at the lounge:
• 1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there.
• 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good
• list of minor prophecies.
• Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop

And a few other blood sources

[green wolf]

||so per heat (as long as i beat hades), the bounties reset each heat and i can keep getting titan blood and allat other stuff right?||

[tidal condor]

Up to 20

[dusty vault]

You have won a run so you should have the prophecy for ||seeing each perk from the benefits package pact||

[tidal condor]

Per weapon

[green wolf]

ohhh

damn seems easy titan blood then

[dusty vault]

This is like 15 blood once complete iirc?

[green wolf]

yessir

theres 2 quests i think, one gives 10 and another gives 15

i am working towards them rn

[tidal condor]

It’s easy, as long as you continue to improve your skills and meta progression enough to survive the increasing heat

[dusty vault]

There's also blood prophecies for win with each mirror talent and each ||pact condition||

[green wolf]

i gotta beat the game with the other 3 weapons to get the 10 blood

[dusty vault]

Oh yeah that one too

[green wolf]

mhmmm thats true 😭

i can only beat the dad with the weapons i am really good at or top notch builds-

i have trouble with weapons i am not as good at

ima just improve at them i suppose

[green wolf]

O

alr ty yall!

[sweet brook]

I remember doing the math at one point assuming you don't make any trades at the broker and do all bounties, all prophecies, and perfect fishing odds, you're 1 blood short from maxing all aspects lmao

[green wolf]

GAH DAMN

[tidal condor]

Oh yeah fishing is technically infinite blood supply

[green wolf]

!?

[tidal condor]

But you can only catch the fish that trades for blood (or ambrosia, which trades 1:1 for blood) on ||the surface ||

[dusty vault]

Fishing at final boss and getting a perfect catch guarantees a titan blood

Either 1 blood directly or ambrosia trade

[green wolf]

woa

i did NOT know bout that bro

[tidal condor]

Any gameplay is technically infinite blood supply but the trade up rates make it bad return on time other than fishing

[green wolf]

thats like

if you get the blood from the final shop, beat dad and fish a blood thats 3 blood per run

if you do that while increasing 1 heat per run

[dusty vault]

4 blood if you have the furies bounty too

[tidal condor]

Shop blood is a better time/blood rate than trading gems and nectars up

[green wolf]

dayum

[tidal condor]

But not super ideal due to it gimping your runs

[green wolf]

i struggle abit with having 1.2k money tho

[tidal condor]

Yea

[green wolf]

i get to around 800

[tidal condor]

It’s better to invest gold to make your runs faster/more consistent

Than to save for shop blood

[green wolf]

after that i either have to sell and then i lose to dad or... i end up short and buy boons

[dusty vault]

Just run into the same duo 3 times and sell it each time /j

[green wolf]

[tidal condor]

Me whenever I have the misfortune of opening stubborn roots

[green wolf]

me seeing the damn gem instead of blood when i sold my shi to get 1.2k gold

(I am about to uninstall this game)

[tidal condor]

Another reason not to save for shop blood

[dusty vault]

If you get lucky/are brave ||you can also get the 20% discount ;)||

[green wolf]

woah

we up on titan blood now

to hell with those titans bro

[tidal condor]

They’re already in hell

And in pieces

[green wolf]

tyes

espeically screw you chronos

i have yet to play the 2nd game

i got spoiled tho...

sad times

but yup i see, ty!

I GET IT BOT

[dusty vault]

Is just doing its job

[outer flint]

bro got a litle pressed about sticky

[green wolf]

I might have beef with the bot now

[outer flint]

everyone does

[green wolf]

i am not shocked one bit

ermmm this channel iss uhhh... and category! is for discussing errrr... the first hades game! 🤓

[hollow hull]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[green wolf]

😭😭😭

[hollow hull]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about 😭😭😭.

[outer flint]

well ig we gotta go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about 😭😭😭.

[green wolf]

yk what bro

i am blocking this bo-

sticky have you beaten hades? is that a no

oh okay

[outer flint]

wowwww

what an elitist

[green wolf]

woww

they call me the king of hades

(NOBODY CALLS BRO THIS)

bro has only beaten the game twice 😭🙏

[outer flint]

twice is crazyyyyy(i have 4 clears bruh)

[green wolf]

bruh

get on my lvl

SHUT THE FU-

[tidal condor]

I’ve seen the credits 3 times

Does that count

[outer flint]

tryhard

[green wolf]

yes

eltist

[outer flint]

3 different files ;-;

[green wolf]

wow i can get titan blood per save file!

[tidal condor]

Original playthrough, hell mode playthrough, then two years later a new save

[green wolf]

all i gotta do is transfer the blood through the multiverse

i am sure nyx can figure something out

[outer flint]

yeah she can just do that

for sure

[green wolf]

yes

totally her realm of powers

tbf i feel like doing that would take longer then just getting the 3 blood normally per run

OH MY GOD BRO

[outer flint]

you gotta wait 3 business days to get your blood

[green wolf]

boom

is that so

can i preorder it

[outer kraken]

Yo, this bot is gonna kill me

[outer flint]

yeah you can preorder your blood 3 days in advance

[green wolf]

yes

[outer kraken]

I thought it was just me that was getting annoyed

[green wolf]

thanks for the help

i will be buying

[green wolf]

fr bro

sticky should stick to doing bot work

hah..

get it?

okay i will delete my account now

[outer flint]

littreally anyone who wants an active conversation in a channel hates it

[green wolf]

😭😭😭

[outer kraken]

Yeah its more that I’m only just now kind of realizing that people are acknowledging it

oh god dammit

[outer flint]

lol

[green wolf]

bro

yk what maybe i am looking at the bot by the wrong lense

[outer flint]

im pretty sure when H2 came out, the bot wasn't added until later

so maybe there was a reason for him

[outer kraken]

Probably

[green wolf]

introducing sticky as a boss in hades 3

[outer kraken]

But it’s more of the principle of like we’ve all been chatting here for long enough that we know

The chats are labeled

[outer flint]

secret h2 boss

[green wolf]

SHUT THE-

[green wolf]

oh damn

fire

[outer flint]

wait

[outer kraken]

Its just clippy

[green wolf]

perks = its a higher spammy boss

[outer flint]

we're talking about h2 rn

oopsies

[green wolf]

oh

hmm

nope

hades 3

[outer flint]

boom

outsmarted

[green wolf]

easy

the bot doesnt have shi on this convo now

[outer flint]

real

[outer kraken]

well i guess we win

[outer flint]

introduce split screen hades 3

[green wolf]

peak

now coming to ps6

[outer kraken]

I’d

Love that

Or more like multiplayer in general

Apparently that TMNT roguelike feels like multiplayer hades

we should maybe go back to general discussion

[outer flint]

im gonna go log off

[green wolf]

ermmm this channel iss uhhh... and category! is for discussing errrr... the first hades game! 🤓

[cedar delta]

Kida these days don't know how good they have it! Back in my day, we were bombarded with Hades 2 spoilers literally several times per hour (not hyperbole)!

[green wolf]

Oh and do I have to equip railgun to unlock zeus's dialogue for Lucifer or can I do it with any weapon?

Cause I swear he hasn't given the dialogue yet...

😭😭😭

[tidal condor]

Should be any weapon

Rail isn’t one that has a “pre” conversation like shield

[broken girder]

idk who gave the words for the railgun anymore but you have to talk to them with the railgun equipped regardless of invested blood and they have to make a remark about it, after that invest the blood if you haven't already and speak with any weapon

[broken girder]

is it not?

i think it's all pinned in #h1-story-discussion anyway if you wanna check

[green wolf]

yooo oh okay

ty

!

[next bough]

Crashes through wall

How doth one get the super secret aspects?

[dusty vault]

check pins in #h1-story-discussion

[next bough]

Ight bet

Okey noice

[hallow bay]

unlock any 5 non-zag aspects & speak to achilles til he says an obvious phrase, interact with spear aspects, reveal it, then the others may be revealed by various means

I think that’s all

[next bough]

Explosions

The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed...

[hallow bay]

wrong game bub

take your arcana to the wizard of legend discord

[outer flint]

aren't arcana cards used in H2 aswell?

[hallow bay]

idk haven’t played h2

[outer flint]

oh ok

[green wolf]

||how can i get through hades's hellfire beam move that covers the entire map?||

[dusty vault]

||hide behind the pillars||, also final boss and beyond should be spoiled marked

[cedar delta]

Normal way: hide behind rocks
Cool way: hug boss

[dusty vault]

if you are feeling bold you can, yeah that

[green wolf]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

OH MY GOD

I JUST REALIZED

😭😭😭

bruhhh

i lost 2 runs to that shi

☹️

[cedar delta]

Passive Perception of 2

[hallow bay]

-3 mod

it’s pretty easy (and just as safe) to hug the boss when he lasers

doesn’t work on the 3 spread though

[dusty vault]

It does but there's no reason to do it

[hallow bay]

[tidal condor]

For the 3 you can safely just go behind and dash strike with free range of motion while staying safe

[green wolf]

yesssir

easy damage

||i struggle abit the WHOLE DAMN MAP BEAM tho but now ik i got it||

[green wolf]

damn

hugging the dad seems the way to go

[hallow bay]

if you don’t wanna there’s no harm in just hiding lol it just takes a bit longer

[green wolf]

we can dmg him while hugging him right?

🤔

i will try both methods

aaa i just realized i gotta beat the game with the sword... welp

I GET IT BOT

RAHHH

[tidal condor]

Hiding behind the rock doesn’t always work for me

At some angles the beams go through it either sporadically or constantly

It’s not my favorite thing, that boulder

[hallow bay]

oh yeah as long as you’re not moving that much, so, no dashstriking

or any other attack that lunges you

[green wolf]

ooooo

alright bet

[green wolf]

[steady lark]

id just hide

hugging is risky

[tidal condor]

Hiding is riskier for me due to boulder issues

I’ve died more times to boulder laser clip than hugging mistakes

But I guess I mainly only boulder hide when I’m close to dying to begin with

[steady lark]

u just havent played enough

[swift harbor]

best guide for the gun?

[outer flint]

like a video guide?

im pretty sure the basic thing is to just

-put zeus on atk
-get static discharge

[tidal condor]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide#adamant-rail

[swift harbor]

thanks

[swift harbor]

my rng poop o give up

i

[tidal condor]

Ok

[lament parrot]

I just ||returned the queen|| on 47th attempt, mobile > pc

[swift harbor]

💀 im on 60 some on mobile and boy i am not cooking

still havnt beaten hades everyone else is easy doe

[karmic arrow]

What does the skull icon at the next door mean?

[dusty vault]

Miniboss if it shows a boon

[karmic arrow]

I see, better rewards?

[dusty vault]

If it shows a key/darkness is a room where all enemies have armor

[dusty vault]

Miniboss has minimum rarity as rare and some buff for epic yeah

[dusty vault]

For these you get double the amount

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[lament parrot]

wild

its not that hard ngl, albeit i AM using shield ||zeus aspect|| idrk if this is much of a spoiler

[blissful whale]

I just fought Alecto fury sister and lost the ability to primary attack for most of the fight. What happened?

[sweet brook]

Might be a hardware issue, that's definitely not a game mechanic lmao

Or you were being hit stunned by saw blades while you were thing to attack but I doubt that's the case

[blissful whale]

Ok I will chalk it up to a bug. Wish I recorded haha that was so odd.

I just received the codex, how can I tell who I've given nectar to?

Is it the lack of a red heart while on their page?

[dusty vault]

Each heart is 1 nectar given

[outer flint]

What do you mean by mobile? Like a switch or streamdeck?

[lament parrot]

iphone

[outer flint]

Since when was that an option?

[lament parrot]

you can play it if you have netflix

soo

[outer flint]

Ohhhh

Bluetooth controller?

[lament parrot]

touch screen

[outer flint]

How tf

Theres too many controls tho

[lament parrot]

not rly

its mainly js joystick on left and attack/call/dash on the right

[outer flint]

Dash, atk, special, cast, summon,

[lament parrot]

ye

it works tho

[outer flint]

Ig ill have to try it

[lament parrot]

i can show an ss

[outer flint]

That would be nice

[lament parrot]

sent it

[outer flint]

Sent it where?

[lament parrot]

dms

[outer flint]

Oh i didnt get the notification lol

[tidal condor]

Badly, from my trial run. Apparently you can overlap dash and attack button for true dash strike play but it was clunky. Bluetooth controller is an option I haven’t had the opportunity to try yet

[outer flint]

my phone cant even run it

so i cant give my feedback

[swift harbor]

im using movile kinda annoying but i beat the game like some hours ago

[karmic arrow]

What's Titan Blood for?

[dusty vault]

Upgrading weapons, you get to use it after unlocking all weapons

[lament parrot]

Js use two fingers at once

[tidal condor]

Didn’t work like that when I tried

[lament parrot]

Odd

Either way

Normal dash strike works

[karmic arrow]

How to unlock weapon upgrading with Titan Blood?

[hallow bay]

reach the surface iirc
not necessarily beat the game

[dusty vault]

unlock all weapons

[hallow bay]

what am I thinking of then

[dusty vault]

dem?

[hallow bay]

probably. maybe guan yu too

[outer flint]

nope

[hallow bay]

[outer flint]

memory goin crazy

[dusty vault]

you do need to reach final boss for hidden spear

[outer flint]

yeah reach him, not reach surface

[dusty vault]

||Final boss arena is in surface||

[outer flint]

wouldnt surface be clearing a run?

[dusty vault]

||the arena is at the edge of the surface already, snow and all of that||

[outer flint]

ig yeah

alr

[karmic arrow]

How to get Meg summon?

[outer flint]

give meg nectar untill she gives you a quest or somehing then give her ambrosia

jut give nectar and talk alot

[karmic arrow]

I see on youtube people have different skins on their weapons, is it only cosmetics or it's stronger?

[outer flint]

stronger

you unlock it by buying all the weapons

[karmic arrow]

Thanks for answering all my questions, I did unlocked all the weapons, or you mean the 4th slot Titan blood upgrade?

[outer flint]

each of the ||aspects, titan blood upgrades|| change how the weapon works

and looks

[karmic arrow]

Ah I see, so different skin is the same as Titan blood upgrades, thought it's something else

[outer flint]

the ||hidden aspects|| change how the weapon works completely

and they have specific requirments for unlock

[karmic arrow]

Sorry, I already did this step, where to see the ||hidden aspect?||

[outer flint]

||Reach the final boss (defeating the boss is not required). You don't have to have the spear equipped when you're fighting the boss, i.e. you can use any other weapon instead.
Unlock any 5 non-Zagreus aspects for any weapon using Titan Blood.
Talk to Achilles (with any weapon equipped) until he gives you the waking-phrase ("I see you through the eyes of the crimson phoenix").
Equip the Spear at the House and then interact with its placeholder to reveal the Aspect of Guan Yu.||

straight from the wiki

you have to unlock guan yu first, the other hiddens come later

[karmic arrow]

Alright thanks 👍

[karmic arrow]

I'm still confused, ||cleared an escape for the first time but the Guan Yu/hidden aspect is not unlocked, I did talked to Archilles||

[dusty vault]

if you have the other requisites that wander sent then is just rng waiting to happen

you also need the list of minor prophecies but I doubt you don't have it

[outer flint]

Have 5 non-zag aspects unlocked

[sweet brook]

it's just 5 non zag aspects unlocked

you dont need to have 2 blood into spear aspects

[dusty vault]

You even posted the pre requisites yourself

[outer flint]

I cant rmember very well

[merry nest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/s/ZF3vW4ZFhh

[broken girder]

you can alternatively also just look into the pins of #h1-story-discussion

[karmic arrow]

Meg never show up, last event I did with her is when the last 4 hearts gets unlocked, after that she's been missing, do I need to do something or just keep going on runs?

[cedar delta]

It took me until my 130th run for her to show up!

[karmic arrow]

Damn lol, I need her companion summon

Who else have a good companion summon for speedrun?

[tidal condor]

Nobody

Meg can’t be beat for aoe and single target except for one mini boss that Antos kills easier

Than is just too delayed

[sweet brook]

technically 2 if you count the fact that antos can 1 shot doomstone too lmao

[sullen flower]

Hey I was wondering, how do I unlock the aspects "beyond imagination" ? Currently I'm trying to unlock ||Arthur||, so i've got Zag's aspect lvl 2, and nemesis and poseidon unlocked without leveling more, did I need to spend more blood ? should I get all the hammers from the weapon ? (for fated prophecy)

[sweet brook]

||you need to have the hidden spear first, which requires you to unlock 5 non-zag aspects||

[sullen flower]

I have unlocked it and went to the surface with it, even

[sweet brook]

just rng then i suppose lmao

[tidal condor]

Then you need to to spend 5 blood in aspects of the weapon you want to unlock the hidden of

Pins in #h1-story-discussion have the full requirements for all of them

If you’ve followed those directions it’s just rng

[sullen flower]

uh so I'm afraid I'm dumb, zag's aspect lvl 2 means I've invested 2 blood in it ? if so then with nemesis + poseidon, it's enough ? (not sure how many bloods "lvl 2" means, my memory went to buy milk)

oh i'm really dumb i should just check other aspects I upgraded

my bad have a nice day, or night, dunno

[tidal condor]

Lv2 zag would mean one blood invested I think

Since lv1 is already unlocked by default

The other aspects lv1 costs blood though

I could be wrong here now that I think about it

[sweet brook]

nah lvl 0 is default

[cedar delta]

Absolutely aspectless with zero bonuses, yeah

[dusty vault]

reminds me how the forced hammer from the modpack doesn't work at lvl 0 zag aspects lmao

[random thorn]

Hello. I started playing on my old file on the switch again and last time I played (or some time before that) i remembered there was this room behind achilles where you could check all your stats. But now its just a empty room with some dude standing there and you can buy something from him with the purple things.

Where has the room gone and what does he actually sell? 🙂

[dusty vault]

You took a wrong turn

From achilles go left

Is a small door

You ||entered dad's room||

[random thorn]

I will check this now ty

[steady lark]

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[random thorn]

What does the dude in there sell?

Yeah what is it that he sells? 😄

[dusty vault]

Is a resource dump basically

[random thorn]

So you dont get anything?

[dusty vault]

You get a ||title/badge|| next to your hp

[random thorn]

Found the room guys

thanks (y)

[candid hull]

Is there a way to download this game on andriod? You can on iPhone with a Netflix subscription but only on iphone

Because I'm not home for a lot of the time, so I wanna be able to play this game on the go

[cedar delta]

No. Your best options are probably a nice little laptop or a Steam Deck

[candid hull]

Okay thanks

I still wish they could add mobile hades 2, i would pay so much for that 😭

[steady lark]

yes you would have to pay for that

[obtuse knot]

insightful

[arctic finch]

is there a way to get diamonds that isn't spending a total of 500 gemstones for the wretched broker's transactions?

[dusty vault]

Killing the hydra with a weapon for the first time drops a diamond

There's a bunch of prophecies with diamonds as rewards

Fishing in the last boss arena can get you one

[arctic finch]

already done that :(

[dusty vault]

have you escaped once yet?

[arctic finch]

I've only unlocked the one for completing 30 jobs. and I've spent all the diamonds from it

[arctic finch]

how do I fish?

no

[dusty vault]

need the fishing rod from the contractor, which iirc needs the deluxe desk so more diamonds anyways

[arctic finch]

the furthest I've gotten was getting smushed by the Minotaur a couple runs ago. that was also the only run I've beaten hydra on so far

[dusty vault]

then yeah outside of what prophecies you can works toward to escaping will let you get the most consistent source of diamonds

[arctic finch]

👍 thanks

[cedar delta]

But with every weapon?

[arctic finch]

...if i swap away from Aegis and manage to get back there I'll get another diamond?

[sweet brook]

each boss reward can be gained again on a different weapon

[arctic finch]

:0

[sweet brook]

so like so far you've beaten meg and hydra, so if you do the same on all 6 weapons

you'll get 6 titan bloods and 6 diamonds

[arctic finch]

oooh!

i'll try to get further with another weapon then

...even tho im kinda relying on the block from Aegis

[sweet brook]

lmao real

[arctic finch]

and the range diversity

...

[outer flint]

I used to only be able to clear with sheild. Imo its the easiest

[arctic finch]

im just gonna try to get to Asphodel with this one. a more casual run (sword)

[sweet brook]

shield is prob the easiest without knowing actual builds prob yeah

fists is also a favorite among players bc it's generally easier to use, despite being more dangerous than other weapons lmao

[arctic finch]

i dont really go for builds i just try to do whatever will make me not die lol

[sweet brook]

fair considering you're still learning the game lmao

[arctic finch]

also i think artemis's boons are kinda lacking

[sweet brook]

they're pretty situational

they're good for a few things but it does those things pretty well lmao

typically crits tbf

her supporting boon pool is pretty lacking except for like hunter's mark

and pressure points kinda but it's kinda just good bc all the others don't do much lmao

and also pressure points -> marked is still good

[arctic finch]

the cast is the only one i'll actively seek out

[cedar delta]

Her cast is like her worst boon though!

[sweet brook]

lmfao

her cast is alright

[arctic finch]

seek is good