Is basically guaranteed
#h1-for-new-players
faint parcel
dusty vault
The last biome offers a way to get a 3rd hermes or 3rd hammer
With the hammer having it worse
faint parcel
took the 2 boons and immediately found the second hammer
dusty vault
Nice
dusty vault
Around 5 dmg to you
dusty vault
With artemis you can crit yourself for like 15 dmg
broken girder
Well done
faint parcel
destroyed
dusty vault
Take care of rat bites
broken girder
Zag or Theseus?
faint parcel
theseus
broken girder
Good work
faint parcel
lucky tooth still not used
broken girder
Now comes the bad part
faint parcel
styx
oh this is a funky shop
1200 for a titan blood
these small corridors are not helping my hazard bomb
faint parcel
got merciful end
dusty vault
Gaming
broken girder
No you only have to clear as many corridors until you find it
faint parcel
aight
faint parcel
huh i did kill a satyr at the end of it though
unless i only got it to low hp and it left
unless i heard the line wrong
broken girder
Yeah that doesn’t really matter
dusty vault
You'll see soon what you need to progress
broken girder
Killing satyr is one thing finding it is another
dusty vault
Have fun
broken girder
Good luck and may god be with ye
faint parcel
fightin time
broken girder
he won’t
faint parcel
lucky skelly tooth carry
dusty vault
Gg?
faint parcel
yep
urban sequoia
I forgot what it does, just turned off the game
faint parcel
knew about the ||second phase||
dusty vault
I forgot what it does, just turned off the game
+20% chances for the doors to be gold laurel
broken girder
Let’s go
dusty vault
So you'll see more boons, coins, poms, hearts and hammers
dusty vault
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/524310260610105365/1177987164240351242/...
Actual gaming lmao
still nacelle
harzard bomb ME 
dusty vault
Barebones mirror
still nacelle
gaming so hard
faint parcel
500 damage per special, good enough
dusty vault
How many attempts did it take
urban sequoia
+20% chances for the doors to be gold laurel
What's gold laurel
dusty vault
So you'll see more boons, coins, poms, hearts and hammers
This @urban sequoia
faint parcel
How many attempts did it take
ill check after the cutscene
dusty vault
Actually let me get the pic
broken girder
I see epic Hermes
urban sequoia
This <@872168261851156480>
I see
dusty vault
urban sequoia
Tbh I like the other one more because it gives me actually useful stuff during the run
Which is good boons
dusty vault
Rarity won't matter if you don't see the boons in first place
still nacelle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/524310260610105365/1177987164240351242/...
~~6000 darkness first clear looking at this 
~~
urban sequoia
Rarity won't matter if you don't see the boons in first place
I don't understand
dusty vault
Olympian favor boosted chance won't help if you rarely get boons
urban sequoia
Don't you always get something at the end of one encounter anyway?
How do you get more?
dusty vault
Think of the gold vs laurel ratio as 50:50
Each time a blue laurel is offered you are missing on run only boosts
silver isle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/h...
lmao i find it funny how hermes isnt included in the gods category
dusty vault
Dark foresight puts the gold laurel ratio in your favor
urban sequoia
Ohhh alr
dusty vault
So you on average see more boosts towards the run itself so more boons
faint parcel
fishing rod obtained
dusty vault
For keys I just trade gems for them on new files
It gets easier for darkness and gems ince you get some work orders and have beaten bosses
dusty vault
(vanquishers keep for gems, and defeating bosses you already collected their bounties gives darkness)
urban sequoia
I don't think I've unlocked the ability to trade
silver isle
hmm
dusty vault
Like I did for a heavy amount of the game lmao
He comes like as soon as you fix the lounge
urban sequoia
Oh wait this guy
dusty vault
No need to spoiler ambrosia btw
urban sequoia
Was he always here? Never noticed lmao
dusty vault
Was he always here? Never noticed lmao
See? 
urban sequoia
dusty vault
so do i?
Is basically super nectar for once you deepen your relationship with a character
So for early game you won't have many uses for it
silver isle
So for early game you won't have many uses for it
aight, 2 can't do anything anyway
ig back to defeating dad with different weapons
dusty vault
There's also more ambrosia in excess than blood
silver isle
1 blood won't give me anything good
dusty vault
Even with all prophecies + ||bounties from heat you still need to trade for blood or fish|| iirc
faint parcel
How many attempts did it take
dusty vault
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/524310260610105365/1177990202388643840/...
God damn
Talk about early lmao
silver isle
Even with all prophecies + ||bounties from heat you still need to trade for bloo...
yeah, looked into that just now
to properly max out all the weapons i need a lot of blood
faint parcel
aspects unlocked, dunno which one i should start building up though
silver isle
if i'm currently 3 keepsakes short
dusty vault
There's a pinned guide for it but you can also just unlock what seems fun
silver isle
whose keepsakes am i missing
dusty vault
If you want to test without "wasting" you can press give up to revert the save
faint parcel
There's a pinned guide for it but you can also just unlock what seems fun
im talking more like, i dunno which weapon is personally best for me
dusty vault
whose keepsakes am i missing
Check the codex to see who you haven't gifted nectar yet
faint parcel
i do like the bow, but my first try with the gun was the run i won
dusty vault
Both have great aspects to use
silver isle
Check the codex to see who you haven't gifted nectar yet
probably dad lmao
silver isle
i do like the bow, but my first try with the gun was the run i won
good for you
mine was spear lmao
dusty vault
Dad is different regarding gifting
faint parcel
special attack spam?
silver isle
Dad is different regarding gifting
i remember gifting him one on a different save state
didnt get anything
dusty vault
Dad is different regarding gifting
you need to ||reach the credits for unlocking the lock and the 2nd nectar is his keepsake||
silver isle
you need to ||reach the credits for unlocking the lock and the 2nd nectar is his...
when do i reach that? is it after the first clear?
dusty vault
10 clears
silver isle
huh
faint parcel
the ammo aspect of the exagryph seems pretty meh but i do have the possibility to max it out right now
dusty vault
Eris is a fun one even if you can't max it
silver isle
how do i send screenshots here
dusty vault
Use embeds
faint parcel
Eris is a fun one even if you can't max it
eris + hazard bomb
dusty vault
Send to another discord or use imgur then copy the img link
dusty vault
eris + hazard bomb
You still can iframe the bomb
But realistically you don't take it
faint parcel
dusty vault
Rocket + cluster (or triple as consolation prize) is your go to
dusty vault
You'll see by just unlocking aspects
If you want the exact method check #h1-story-discussion pins
faint parcel
ohh i reminded myself, i did read about it
faint parcel
metal gear rising taught me well
anything interesting i can do with the fishing pole
" it takes time to learn those and it's best to ask "
so about infernal vs stygian
which one should i go for if im not currently going for a specific weapon? ill just try to grind each for the titan bloods and diamonds but nothing specific yet
dusty vault
Infernal has access to lightning rod duo boon which is quite good and stygian has marginally better hermes odds
As it removes flurry cast from his list of boons
And the stygian legendary is better than infernal legendary
tight flower
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/524310260610105365/1177987164240351242/...
GG!!! 🎉
faint parcel
And the stygian legendary is better than infernal legendary
ill go for stygian then for now
tight flower
Both have great utility in certain scenarios
Remember that like the dash mirror dichotomy, it is possible to gain your multiple casts back through certain boons if your luck strikes that way
dusty vault
Just keep in mind that hermes legendary also has lower base chance to show up
Is a 1%
faint parcel
stoic raven
dusty vault
If you know what you are doing with yarns or eurydice nectar then is not that bad
stoic raven
its ok i take nectar yarn legascam favor
faint parcel
frost grandma is starting to help
dusty vault
Still good to keeo in mind
tight flower
Just keep in mind that hermes legendary also has lower base chance to show up
(and that Hermes himself is on a busy schedule, and only shows up a few times xD)
dusty vault
frost grandma is starting to help
Oh yeah hoppe you don't mind the cold
tight flower
You're gonna love the cold! (Are they considered a spoiler in this channel?)
stoic raven
rav will
stoic raven
You're gonna love the cold! (Are they considered a spoiler in this channel?)
pretty sure yes as ||you gotta reach the surface||
dusty vault
Yeah we should spoiler their name lol
i love ||the diameter||
broken girder
You’ve yet to meet Tony
dusty vault
Tony sounds much more scary out of context lmao
still nacelle
elysium still hardest biome, way worse than the styx
faint parcel
Tony sounds much more scary out of context lmao
didnt know hell has a mafia
dusty vault
Across the labyrinth of the halls in the temple of styx it lays the scariest creature that even hades refuses to handle
broken girder
Tony is not a nightmare he’s the nightmare
dusty vault
tony
faint parcel
faint parcel
so i started the run with aphrodite's keepsake, no use of it now?
tight flower
Well, not no use
faint parcel
theres the 10% for higher rarity
but sounds less important than some other keepsake
tight flower
Yeah, and you're right that the guaranteed meet effect has worn off, and I indeed would recommend switching 
dusty vault
Yeah the rarity ain't worth keeping
tight flower
Especially when there are mirror upgrades that deal with rarity
faint parcel
can i change the keepsake multiple times while at one of those machines for them
tight flower
Oo, be careful with that
if you look at the keepsake box and don't switch from what you have, you can re-access it
faint parcel
i know i cant change back to it
tight flower
if you do switch, it's locked
tight flower
I think maybe you can cheese that by quitting and reloading the save? (Don't count on this though, untested 
)
faint parcel
so i cant get 100 free coins at the first thing
tight flower
wdym?
faint parcel
theres a keepsake giving u 100 coins
and if you switch off it, you keep them
oh yeah its the Hypnos one, free 100/125/150 coin
tight flower
Ohhhh now I get it, yeah you can't get the free coins and equip another keepsake
tight flower
The money's only given after the box locks in between regions is all
faint parcel
gotta find a ares,
first keepsake a guaranteed aphrodite
second keepsake a guaranteed ares (gotta get it)
third lucky tooth
should work for every weapon
tight flower
It's good to diversify, but that does sound like a plan, it's good to have every keepsake
still nacelle
the common tatic for keepsake is god for the first 2 biomes
and ultilities/defense for the rest
most build only revolve around 1-2 gods
faint parcel
nobody mentions the damage keepsakes
tight flower
Mhm, and after the first 2 biomes is where you start really wanting those utilities and defenses
Could be considered a utility, they can give you an extra nudge!
still nacelle
nobody mentions the damage keepsakes <:HecateHmmm:1145853014742151370>
if you're talking about ||thanatos' butterfly||, it's suck
dusty vault
Depends on which dmg one you mean
faint parcel
all of them realy
nobody mentions a single one
its always either the util or defense ones
dusty vault
The thing about them is that boons already do the heavy work for dmg
Their niche comes when just getting the boons isn't an option
faint parcel
quick tip: do not spam spear dash-attack in aphosydel
still nacelle
||distant memory|| is hard to ultilize, you not gonna use ||meg's earring|| unless you push ||heat||
dusty vault
For example ||having the pact restrict your boon options||
tight flower
if you're talking about ||thanatos' butterfly||, it's suck
||Wouldn't say that exactly, it's one of the few that can build upon themselves if you're consistent (I'd agree it's more punishing than the other one for sure though)||
dusty vault
Oh yeah distant memory exists
still nacelle
||Wouldn't say that exactly, it's one of the few that can build upon themselves ...
nah, it's suck because it forces you to play suboptimally
dusty vault
||Wouldn't say that exactly, it's one of the few that can build upon themselves ...
The thing with butterfly is that the weapons that shine with it are the % ones
And so the 50%~ you'll get is basically just a common chaos boon
still nacelle
I mean I can make it work but I prefer not to since god's keepsake is just better
tight flower
Maybe I was led to believe it was better than it is then xD
still nacelle
the thing is, you want something defensive for the last 2 biomes
||butterfly|| is way too punishing for measly damage increase
dusty vault
Also yeah the defensive keepsakes are too nice
still nacelle
||hourglass to buy a build is way better than butterfly as well||
still nacelle
||Wouldn't say that exactly, it's one of the few that can build upon themselves ...
you can try to go for something like this which is definitely too hard to make it work
tight flower
yeah 
although in all honesty, i do kind of like how it as a keepsakes almost become a challenge modifier
still nacelle
I agree that's fun but I can't in good faith recommend it for new players
faint parcel
every god has a duo with every other god?
faint parcel
aig
tight flower
Oh I actually didn't know that, I thought some gods were incompatible 
dusty vault
A few of the duos only have the cast as requisite so it can be hard to notice
wooden dirge
they grudgingly get together to help zag
tight flower
I absolutely LOVE when you get to see them interact in dialog
dusty vault
Usually they have a special dialogue between them the first time a specific duo is offered yeah
faint parcel
wooden dirge
you'll love the interaction between Athena and ||demeter||
faint parcel
oh hey sisyphus in aphosdel- ||eurydice???||
well thats stubborn roots gotten
right after u said that
is there a limit to how much duo's u can have at once
raw coral
no
tight flower
Usually they have a special dialogue between them the first time a specific duo...
And I think if not the first time then it'll eventually happen as far as i know, game probably tracks it
faint parcel
who is considered the best companion
tight flower
I think several of them are considered S tier
And it kinda depends on your purposes, because if you're speedrunning I think there's a clear first choice
broken girder
Meg
tight flower
To me it's less important in Hades to make the best choice, more just to try everything out y'know
The variety is a big part of the fun
faint parcel
what do u guys think of blood frenzy (deal more damage to a encounter u lost death defiance in)
faint umbra
its an ok pick so you have it when you get to tough bosses but otherwise its probably better to take something else
faint parcel
ii have beaten a chest and forgot to pick up the nectar it dropped
my hades career is over
broken girder
Nay it just began
faint parcel
styx has been reached with the spear, but i have no chances against the boss so 
broken girder
You always do
faint parcel
1 death defiance and my damage boons are not that good
broken girder
What do you have on attack?
broken girder
Then you could’ve gotten ME and with ddash it would have just been dash strikes
But this can work too
Just more difficult
faint parcel
still gotta get through paths
hmm i got the cerberus thing but i could go through more passages
tight flower
Oh I see you've reached a state of run I like to call Charon's Gamble (working title, could potentially sound cooler)
Pray for a death defiance refill, or be safe and just keep all the health you currently have
tight flower
Try not to do what I did yesterday and casually spring a ceiling blade trap with the most comically cartoonish timing possible xD
faint parcel
teh fishing is so tight on timing
tight flower
You get good at it with practice, are you hitting early or late?
broken girder
Hold on a second I gotta beat packrat to this
broken girder
late by miliseonds
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
faint parcel
achiless where did you go, i have like 3 talks i gotta hve with him
broken girder
<:SaguWhenLifeGetsYouDown:586854356175814657> achiless where did you go, i have ...
Where did you come from where did you go, where did you come from cotton eyed Achilles
low glade
Making it to the final boss but struggling, wondering if I could make better use of keepsakes early game
Which do y'all recommend?
sweet brook
god keepsakes in the first two biomes to get the build you want, then defensive into elysium and styx
low glade
Hmm okay
sweet brook
defensive meaning acorn 9.9/10 times
low glade
gonna be real I've been doing butterfly for first two and skelly in Elysium onwards
sweet brook
you dont keep the butterfly bonus after you take it off
low glade
OH
sweet brook
so that's probably most of the problem lmao
on top of using butterfly in the first place
sweet brook
you can build better damage by getting a good build lmao
low glade
Alright gamers it's vial upgrading time
sweet brook
ares is kinda eh unless you're building for merciful end
sweet brook
oh true
low glade
Wait can you change partway thru biomes?
sweet brook
yes
low glade
sweet brook
i think it's a work order but it's super cheap iirc
stoic raven
you can only change after the boss
sweet brook
no
low glade
Oh I misread then
sweet brook
the only time you can change it is between biomes
stoic raven
aka after a boss
low glade
i generally go
god->tooth/god->tooth/hourglass->acorn
So how does this work? What do the arrows mean
faint parcel
So how does this work? What do the arrows mean
changing the keepsakes
sweet brook
lmao yeah
faint parcel
sweet brook
you typically go god -> god -> acorn -> acorn
when you get later in the game there's different strats you can take
but for the large part it's just that
stoic raven
screw asterius acorn, i love taking 72 damage from a charge
faint parcel
isnt lucky tooth better than acorn
stoic raven
isnt lucky tooth better than acorn
depends
dusty vault
it can easily block more than the 100 hp
stoic raven
youd need 20 damage per hit for them to be even
sweet brook
at max level, acorn has 5 charges
in heroes fight, nearly everything does 20+ damage
same with final fight pretty much
low glade
Should I do a few all acorn runs or all god runs just to upgrade fast
Most of my stuff besides tooth is one star
faint parcel
i would start with acorn first to upgrade it
i wouldnt go into these runs with a mindset to win but to kill
stoic raven
god keepsakes dont matter much in terms of levels
10% extra rare chance isnt gonna do much as opposed to blocking 2 hits
faint parcel
but you can still have those 10% for no cost (other than ur time)
stoic raven
just run ff and not deal with keepsakes
low glade
Oh also mirror choices, are there any must haves there
sweet brook
there's a mirror gudie pinned here
low glade
Epic
I play shield and they mention that they can manage with ruthless instead of greater, does manage mean can kinda operate or that it's better here
sweet brook
can kinda operate
it's like
the only people who take ruthless reflex on shield are some of the best players in the world in general lmao
low glade
Oh haha
sweet brook
there's not really much of a reason to take ruthless reflex at this point in the game
stoic raven
but the 50% damage
sweet brook
Is shield an infernal or stygian type things
inferal vs stygian soul doesn't really matter at your point in the game unless you want to do a cast build
low glade
Do builds refer to what boons you get? I kinda just ball with whatever I see
sweet brook
yes
low glade
Oh boy
sweet brook
boons and aspect pretty much
there's a reason why god keepsakes are used at the first 2 biomes lmao
low glade
So it says dark foresight is better but I don't have full mirror so should I do favor for now or what
low glade
I mean that I may not want less keys when I need 30 for the last two mirror things
Unless I can trade or smth
sweet brook
i mean if you reset mirror it's only 1 key
and dark foresight is much better than olypmian favor by a long shot
if you dont want to reset it's fine just use olympian favor i guess
low glade
Nah I mean that I don't have pride/legacy or persuasion/authority, if I want to unlock those I need keys, so lowering key rates seems weird
Is that a normal concern or is there a simple way around that
dusty vault
they are quite expensive darkness wise so even if you unlock them they won't do much
can also trade gems for keys
low glade
Ah okay
dusty vault
they are quite expensive darkness wise so even if you unlock them they won't do ...
(persuasion alone takes 10k)
low glade
Oh wow
Which god boons are good for damage? I mostly want that
Like who's charm should I equip
I have all but Athena and Aphrodite
dusty vault
depends on the weapon/aspect
low glade
Zagreus Aegis
dusty vault
the short version is that things like fists or rail that have low base dmg want extra dmg sources like zeus
oh shield
shield attack alone is kinda eh for dmg
you want at least pulverizing blow if using zag aspect or ideally charged shot
low glade
I have been playing this game very wrong
dusty vault
you want at least pulverizing blow if using zag aspect or ideally charged shot
(with either of these you use % buffs like aphrodite/artemis attack)
you can make do with athena's or ||demeter|| if they show up at epic rarity
dusty vault
(with either of these you use % buffs like aphrodite/artemis attack)
(with artemis you also want chaos boons to buff up the dmg)
stoic raven
inferal vs stygian soul doesn't really matter at your point in the game unless y...
||rav will||
low glade
I do play this like Captain America and have access to chaos aspect is that one better
I nearly never use bull rush
sweet brook
Nah I mean that I don't have pride/legacy or persuasion/authority, if I want to ...
it's probably better to just win tbh lmao
stoic raven
chaos is bad even though its literally chaos shield
sweet brook
I do play this like Captain America and have access to chaos aspect is that one ...
shield special sucks
cedar delta
Chaos aspect is really meh
sweet brook
unless it's zeus shield then it's good
low glade
I've summoned every chaos hater omg
dusty vault
the special hits with the same base dmg of fists with nowhere the speed of them to make up
stoic raven
unless it's zeus shield then it's good
hidden can be fine with charged
sweet brook
I've summoned every chaos hater omg
i dont really hate chaos i just hate shield special lmao
sweet brook
hidden can be fine with charged
"fine"
low glade
Is there a way to get blood back from upgrades? I did spend a little much on a weapon I don't use because I didn't understand the system at first
cedar delta
I've summoned every chaos hater omg
We are always watching 👀
stoic raven
225 with fiery is decent
dusty vault
we just need the timeline where the special hammers work with the extra shields from chaos
stoic raven
Is there a way to get blood back from upgrades? I did spend a little much on a w...
quit to menu
it only works if you havent left the chamber(doing a run doesnt count, but dying/winning does)
dusty vault
Is there a way to get blood back from upgrades? I did spend a little much on a w...
assuming this was a while ago, no
low glade
Fun
sweet brook
you can get more blood by clearing
that should be the main focus before unlocking the rest of the mirror imo
low glade
True but idk what weapons I have and haven't done it with haha
sweet brook
trial and error lmao
low glade
And no I didn't write it down
stoic raven
just think which ones seemed op
low glade
I think I have bow/shield/sword at least
stoic raven
and which ones are garbage
dusty vault
but also just kill the first boss is quick
low glade
Is there a way to just return after killing first boss
dusty vault
step on lava as soon as you enter aspho
low glade
you want at least pulverizing blow if using zag aspect or ideally charged shot
You say this like I can guarantee it, can I? Am I blind? Or do I just have to try to pick it up along the way
faint umbra
you can't pick it unless you mod your game, you have to luck into it or settle for something else
stoic raven
You say this like I can guarantee it, can I? Am I blind? Or do I just have to tr...
just get lucky, theres no way to guarantee hammers without mods
faint umbra
🤝
low glade
Aight
sweet brook
i mean it's not terrible chance to get 2 hammers you want lmao
stoic raven
some weapons are just reliant on hammers
primarily weak ones like chaos shield and dad spear
low glade
Would it be best to go for Zeus shield
rich elm
One good guide is:
https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide
Important: It contains slight spoilers
(this guide is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat)
low glade
Aight
I'm clear on everything up to the final boss
Also I think I might have most to all weapons blood already so how do I get more
cedar delta
Land perfect catches after the final boss and also a mechanic that occurs after you beat the final boss
low glade
I would like to say I have not beaten the boss only made it there
cedar delta
Blood is rather limited before your first clear
low glade
Oh boy
rich elm
after beating the final boss you will get a somewhat "easier" access to blood
Many people beat the boss for the first time with shield. maybe you wanna give that one a try
rich elm
the most important thing to me (as a noob) is always athena dash
low glade
Are there trades I can do for blood? Pretty sure I only have diamond and ambrosia on shield
faint parcel
what would be the single easiest ||heat||
cedar delta
TD1
oh found it
low glade
Heroic boon on a run I'm throwing rippp
faint parcel
Heroic boon on a run I'm throwing rippp
never throw a run
low glade
I'm just blood checking
faint parcel
you might be goign into a run to get that one more key u need to unlock something, in the end you accidentally win it
dusty vault
<:HUTAOScared:890754185874767934> 9 minutes? hell nah ill take the +15% more hp
is actually one of the worst ones that lmao
dusty vault
it affects bosses
for pacts to start ||you can try extreme measures, is fun or idk anything small like hard labour, practicing middle management even if its 2 heat is ok||
||benefits package is also 2 but gets you started on the prophecy early at least||
faint parcel
it affects bosses
still sounds easier than a time limit
low glade
Just be fast ez
dusty vault
is one of the best pacts but looking at your clear times for now yeah just avoid it
dusty vault
oh wait your first clear is on td1 time lmao
final dune
faint parcel
clusterbomb and curse of pain
and in 3 encounters ill have +42% damage bonus to it too
wait
wont that outshape the -30% clusterbomb gives
final dune
no
cluster bomb affects base damage
chaos is additive
and doom special sucks on it lol
faint parcel
i have no idea what u said but alright
cedar delta
Just smile and nod 😄
low glade
Ohhh all of my weapons were blooded already rippp
faint parcel
did the clusterbomb make the time between dashing and using my special longer?
viscid notch
Should have no effect on that
viscid notch
what is TD1?
Tight Deadline, pact
faint parcel
Should have no effect on that
getting caught lacking, lost like 30 hp allready
rich elm
Tight Deadline, pact
thanks
low glade
Is it worth to do two diamonds -> ambrosia -> blood or just ambrosia -> blood in favor of Zeus Aegis
Or just rock with zag shield
faint umbra
i like zag shield :(
viscid notch
It depends on how much you have but generally no. You can do Ambrosia -> Titan Blood if you have a bunch laying around
dusty vault
zeus shield can also vibe without blood anyways
viscid notch
Diamonds become useful way earlier than ambrosia
low glade
I would have to go get it but I haven't gotten it on many weapons
low glade
zeus shield can also vibe without blood anyways
I don't have the base needed to unlock
dusty vault
ah
low glade
I spent it on chaos way earlier cause I didn't know much
viscid notch
Just focus on clearing / getting as far as possible
low glade
Aight
viscid notch
There are a few prophecies that give a ton of titan blood
viscid notch
If you dont have much ambrosia laying around I wouldnt consider trading them. I'd keep like 10 then trade the rest if you're very early in terms of progression, otherwise just stop trading. You only means to get more titan blood later anyway
viscid notch
Omg I'm missing a single one for wanton ransacking
That could help you unlock zeus
low glade
It's a ??? Between dire bother and dire gigantic vermin where would it be
I assume right near the end?
low glade
Epic
final dune
is that tony
viscid notch
I would do one of them
Then look for Zeus or maybe Poseidon
Probably Aphro -> zeus
low glade
Oh I was thinking spoiler into one of those because I like the cast ability
and I still need to gift Aphrodite the nectar
viscid notch
You could also do that. ||Dem|| and Aphro are similar in that build because you're looking for a & attack anyway. So both doesnt make much sense.
Aphro -> Zeus unlocks Smoldering air if you manage to pick a call which is the reason I recommended it
low glade
Alright
viscid notch
It's very strong. A call is likely more dps than a cast in that build
The call would be Zeus or Dio
low glade
I'll probably just chance spoiler then, if it comes it comes
viscid notch
Yea not a bad idea. Experimenting with the status effects is a good thing
faint parcel
any tips on using the clusterbomb? i keep getting caught while using it
viscid notch
I like ||Dem|| start on some weps
low glade
Welp time to find Aphrodite and gift the nectar
viscid notch
any tips on using the clusterbomb? i keep getting caught while using it
Try not to hold it for too long and just generally be aware of your surroundings and dont panic dash when you get hit.
Remember that empty dashes have full iframes
rich elm
"empty dashes"=no boons?
viscid notch
no input
dusty vault
dash without pressing anything else
viscid notch
you can have boons
low glade
Is ||Mistral Dash|| any good? It's rare but I don't understand how useful it could be
viscid notch
It's not that great for anything
There's always a better option
whether its damage or crowd control/status
If you get a random ||Dem|| boon try to take rav will or snow burst or even nourishing soul
tight flower
<:HUTAOScared:890754185874767934> 9 minutes? hell nah ill take the +15% more hp
||9 minutes for every region, once you pass into the next region you gain a new 9 minutes on top of any remaining time you might already have, and the timer stops for you when:||
||you pause, are looking at a dialog box, are choosing a boon from a god or pom or making a hammer choice, during a room transition, between the moment you defeat a boss till you exit the rest-chamber with the keepsake box and stuff that's in between regions, are in a friend room like Sisyphus's, and I think (don't quote me but probably) when you're looking at a pool of purging/well of charon in any chamber||
faint parcel
||9 minutes for every *region*, once you pass into the next region you gain a ne...
well now that doesnt sound so bad
tight flower
||level one of the timer is pretty forgiving if you're confident with the weapon you're using ||
rich elm
I think you don't need to hide that info in chat. The only thing you should hide is content including the final boss and lategame stuff.
(correct me if I'm wrong on that)
faint parcel
post final boss stuff iirc
tight flower
right! sorry about that
tight flower
i dunno! think it counts
rich elm
yeah to Mike and others
low glade
What's usually best to go for on Aphrodite? If available ofc
viscid notch
Depends on the wep
tight flower
Depends on your weapon
tight flower
Hmm
viscid notch
Attack
tight flower
I go either way tbh but I'm not as experienced as some others here
it depends, do you want the most damage or just the weak effect?
low glade
I'm not fully sure what weak does tbh
viscid notch
If it's full and you have plans for other core boons you can take any of the side boons, dying lament is nice for aoe. Otherwise her dash is ok
Weak is damage reduction
low glade
Ooooh I like that
tight flower
I'm not fully sure what weak does tbh
hovering over a boon with a status effect shows you a description of the status effect beside it
viscid notch
It also happens to be one of the best effects in the game because aphro has the biggest % modifier on the attack and special
tight flower
mhm
even nicer with rarity, it's a good option on the whole
sometimes i do go for the flourish instead when i happen to have a hammer that makes the special hit a lot more people
low glade
What's a good duo for it
viscid notch
Smoldering Air
To buff the attack itself there arent any that you want to particularly chase
low glade
I can't do big powerful call with that tho
viscid notch
For most calls you dont want to anyway because it's less damage
low glade
I see what it wants but I'm tryna just evaporate Theseus will full call when he calls on a god
Oh I see
viscid notch
Also the smaller calls give iframes
tight flower
For most calls you dont want to anyway because it's less damage
Oh for real?
tight flower
There are some calls where full guage doesn't cover the lost damage ?
viscid notch
And for aphro it's also occasional and mostly on bosses
low glade
Alright that's cool
tight flower
Yeesh I need to rethink how I use Zeus's call
viscid notch
It might cover it but you're just not gonna hit them all like if its lightning bolts or hangover stacks
You'll likely need to back up
Zeus and Dio are the highest dps calls because of that
viscid notch
You just jump in as you lesser call. Dish out a ton of damage then back up if things get messy
tight flower
Also helps because you can't skip boss phases afaik
viscid notch
Yea that's part of why smoldering air is insane
With the right call
It makes it so easy to spam lesser calls
rich elm
Yeah bosses get immunity when they transition to next phase
tight flower
acts as like a damage gate
viscid notch
Just forget about doing dmg and dodge that initial call
Then when it starts doing patterns you go back to attacking him same as phase 1 but with area denial
But he does get an invincibility bubble when he phases. He just calls the gods after that
low glade
Ah I see
viscid notch
To ensure that this is the case. Kill the bull first
tight flower
Targetting Asterius is a great idea yeah
low glade
Also do you think charged flight or dashing flight is better because I know charged is great but special is a lot faster
tight flower
Theseus is way annoying to deal with all on his own because of that shield
viscid notch
Neither is gonna matter on zag shield
low glade
Hehehehe wall bounce
viscid notch
Special is pretty weak and stops you from using your shield for blocking/rushing until you retrieve the shield so either is ok but not too relevant
Your best hammer is charged shot
Followed by pulv blow, breaching rush, sudden rush, in no particular order
low glade
Aight
What call is best in y'all's opinion
Cause the duo I'm going for relies on one
viscid notch
Zeus/Dio/Athena
low glade
Aight
rich elm
Just wanna thank all the people here for their effort around the clock to help players. It is very encouraging to get so many nice answers
dusty vault
was it on aspho
dusty vault
asphodel is the shortest biome so that can happen lol
low glade
Yeah
low glade
I got a chance to but it was slightly off screen so I didn't see it until I locked into smth else
dusty vault
sometimes I avoid it on purpose for something else and also end up missing it
sour quiver
First run complete!!!!
dusty vault
gg
grave hill
congrats on first clear! @sour quiver
random tip for hera bow.. remap the cast button to left trigger or any non thumb button for easier time
sour quiver
I will keep that in mind
tight flower
Also do this when using the rail at all!
Right stick click is an evil bind
Tip in full: Reload works way better on a shoulder button, and if your weapon has cast acting in a reload-like way, you can swap em out for convenience!
low glade
Is it a good idea to stick around in Styx or should I just go right to the fight
dusty vault
just go is the plan most of the time
you won't get a fountain again so the hp lost sticks more
low glade
Aight
I got boons in all slots, about half health, and two death defies what could go wrong
SO CLOSE
Honestly with my build actually working out I clear that
Heart pounding wow
low glade
Yeah if I either got the Aphrodite/Zeus duo or kept a defy then it was a dub
viscid notch
Now you know the moves a bit better aswell
low glade
Only thing I struggle with is all of the little stuff he throws
rich elm
Is it a good idea to stick around in Styx or should I just go right to the fight
Stickig around is a good idea if you want to level up keepsakes because every mini-room is one encounter
low glade
True, I can still level acorn again
Yall think acorn or tooth is better? Or either way
dusty vault
acorn def
||dad lowest dmg hit is 20 dmg so at least you'll break even unless you get hit by the adds||
||then for the other side getting hit during boiling blood will block way more hp||
low glade
I use Aphrodite attack buff tho (as much as possible)
dusty vault
Even with weak maybe it'll be harder to break even but still can block in chance
And as aside iirc old collar is more hp overall than tooth with 3 dds
low glade
What determines the boss variant? I've gotten tis like 5 runs in a row now
dusty vault
Pure chance
low glade
My shield is the unluckiest mf in the west
sour quiver
how does one unlock those hidden aspects?
low glade
They aren't referred to by name in even a few beginner guides so I think it might be an after complete run thing
Idk tho I don't have it either
sour quiver
finished my first run
low glade
Oh idk then
sour quiver
so that box might be checked then
viscid notch
It takes quite a bit more than that. Guide is pinned in #h1-story-discussion
sour quiver
oh thanks
leaden whale
In general keep talking to characters and doing storylines and you'll unlock them, much like everything else in this game
low glade
First Zeus boon doesn't give me duo, rip, what are the odds out of curiosity
viscid notch
Are you eligible for the duo?
leaden whale
Pretty low without a certain talent still iirc
low glade
I have an eligible Aphrodite boon yeah
viscid notch
Lots of factors play into the exact odds, such as your core boons, whether other duos are open, rarity boosts such as eury and legacy etc
leaden whale
Duo requires boons from at least two gods as well, that's why they're duo
low glade
Yeah I got Aphrodite early and I'm aiming for the Aphrodite/Zeus boon
viscid notch
Yea if you only have the aphro boon then you’ll need a zeus core + a call then you’re eligible for their duo. That zeus core can be the call, should be most of the time
viscid notch
After meeting the requirements yea
low glade
Aight
viscid notch
You’ll be eligible
low glade
I think I have requirements now
viscid notch
You can check the prereqs in the codex
leaden whale
If you have the boon list upgrade that is
limpid cairn
do yall recommend trying to clear with all weapons first or pushing heat on the weapons u cleared with
low glade
Oops
leaden whale
do yall recommend trying to clear with all weapons first or pushing heat on the ...
Depends if you're really good with a specific weapon imo
low glade
Oh dang hermes gives me an auto charge anyways
leaden whale
Like I'm really good with bow so I can push bounties with that, but you'll also want to use other weapons
viscid notch
I like clearing with all the weps first just to get an idea of what it’s like and also because it’s a prophecy. Heat can take a while especially if you plan to push high, it can also get boring and repetitive
leaden whale
That it is
Speaking of weapons, I feel like I never play shield properly, I should really look on yt for some advice
leaden whale
I'm really not the person to ask about shield lol
viscid notch
You have to judge based on the room. The bullrush makes you invincible for its entire duration, but also wont deal as much dmg on zag shield. Gotta remember that it also provides mobility.
Whenever you’re in a pinch just bullrush out of it. At this point its strength will mostly show in boss fights
sour quiver
whats your guys favoirte aspect
broken girder
||Gilgamesh|| 
low glade
Thru Theseus, no death defies used
Oh boy
Full health going into Styx too
And Aphrodite is in store with me eligible for duo
Lil expensive tho
broken girder
But bc it’s expensive, the boons have a higher rarity
Or rather more chance of higher rarity
low glade
Oooh okay
low glade
Oooh can't quite afford it without clearing more halls
I don't think it's worth enough, esp since I already have an auto charge boon
Plus there's two cheap athenas
broken anvil
First clear was at 21, finally got my second at 36. It was with a level 1 Hera bow
it's sooo strong
broken girder
Nice, didn’t take too long then
broken girder
Good luck
sour quiver
First clear was at 21, finally got my second at 36. It was with a level 1 Hera ...
iknow hera is love
got my clear with it xd
broken girder
iknow hera is love
Especially with the Aphrodite
low glade
FIRST PHASE DAMAGELESS OKAY
broken girder
Let’s go, you got this
sour quiver
FIRST PHASE DAMAGELESS OKAY
lets go!
low glade
Second phase at 173/200 and still all defies
broken girder
Let’s go
leaden whale
Go go go!
worn barn
pls check my build #h1-victory-boasting
broken girder
pls check my build <#725021639506526249>
It is ideal for merciful end, but that works well too ig
low glade
So didn't expect that but hey not in bad shape
broken girder
So didn't expect that but hey not in bad shape
||Lasers or pots?||
low glade
The former
broken girder
Hide behind pillars or shield if you use it
low glade
Wait he just brought out the latter
sour quiver
xD
worn barn
It is ideal for merciful end, but that works well too ig
i win with this and its simple
broken girder
Don’t get caught by them, they’re a quick way to go out
sour quiver
i shot at them
leaden whale
Don’t get caught by them, they’re a quick way to go out
||Especially on HS that's why HS is bait||
worn barn
It is ideal for merciful end, but that works well too ig
i win with a little luck and its simple and fun
broken girder
i win with this and its simple
This is basically the same just optimised you could say, it’s really strong
broken girder
||Especially on HS that's why HS is bait||
It’s not that bad on hs, Styx is worse with hs
leaden whale
Fair
low glade
YESSS
worn barn
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/725021639506526249/1177656062258...
yes I was lucky to come across them in this order
broken girder
9 more times
sour quiver
damn
xD
well if you repeat what you just did in the exact same order
you should be able to do it
worn barn
9 more times
you have to finish it 10 times in total. rip me who's only 5
broken girder
If you figure out what was actually good in the build, you can try to go for it every time
That gets boring after a while tho
sour quiver
you have to finish it 10 times in total. rip me who's only 5
rip me who has 1
stoic raven
How much should I be using bull rush
use bull rush all the time unless youre going with a special/attack build, or the positioning from the basic attack is good
sour quiver
I got the opposite
stoic raven
how do i consistently beat meg
pay attention to telegraphs
for charge, dash to the side or iframe it
for spin, iframe or dash away
for projectiles, inch in one direction and dont move too much, or you can just dash behind her constantly
for circles, dash around, use dash strikes. this attack is very lenient
and just ignore the summons, unless its a lout
final dove
pay attention to telegraphs
for charge, dash to the side or iframe it
for spin, ...
whats a lout
cedar delta
Not to be confused with the beefy enemies
stoic raven
thugs
dusty vault
Whatever you are most comfortable with
final dove
alright thanks
tight flower
well guys,
i just learnt something the hard way
if you have a god keepsake, the guaranteed appear effect is still yet to be expended, and you're about to enter charon's shop (which may or may not be the final shop of the area).... they won't be guaranteed to show up
dusty vault
You can tell if the shop will be the one before the boss by the number of the chamber
12/22/34 are the last possible combat/chamber before end shops in the respective biomes
low glade
Omg right after my first run I'm doing td1 and my build is so cracked
I got the Aphrodite/Zeus duo and it's so good for sheild
Poseidon call is eh but it works
13m going into Styx too
tight flower
12/22/34 are the last possible combat/chamber before end shops in the respecti...
yes, this made the realization all the more tragic xD
and it's a great tip too!
but it's a shame the keepsake effect went to waste
dusty vault
Was it on aspho by chance
tight flower
yes
dusty vault
Shortest biome moment
tight flower
It was mostly my fault, I thought "I can take Athena and still retain the ||guaranteed Demeter"||
low glade
I have 20m to spend on final fight full health all death defies incredible build wow
tight flower
It was mostly my fault, I thought "I can take Athena and still retain the ||guar...
I had failed to take into consideration: Hermes
low glade
Omg not even thru acorn onto second big phase
THAT WAS SO FAST
4 minute final fight
And I finished mirror so I can get my duo relying build more often
Oh, just unlocked Zeus shield
Is smoldering still good? I like smoldering
THIS IS BUSTED
low glade
Back at the final boss on heat 2, less good build and less death defies but I think I have a chance
Aaand another clear
Man shield is easy
stoic fossil
how do i consistently beat meg
Like they said pay attention and be cautious
After clearing the game a dozen times I opened a new save file and beat her first try. Also it’s not just the fight itself make sure you’ve got a good build and enough health before you fight her
Be cautious especially if you have no extra lives and or low health
stoic fossil
also what weapon should i be using
Most defensive and safe is the shield
Another easy one for newer players is fists and that ones up close big damage
You can also look online for builds which are the boons you wanna get
You don’t need to play a specific build but a build at least helps you like have a certain play for that escape.
silver isle
also what weapon should i be using
the spear is nice
terse grotto
I'm having troubles escaping with a sword. I started few days back, and I already escaped on normal difficulty with every weapon and started dabbling in heat runs. Apart from the sword. It just feels awkward, or maybe I'm missing some obvious build. Recommendations for a fairly surefire build? I have first form maxed, and like 3 levels into nemesis. I'd like to just do it at least to get that last titan blood from normal, so I can move on to weapons I like
cedar delta
Are you performing Dash-Strike x2 into Special for your rotation? Can go Aphrodite Attack on Nemesis
terse grotto
I tried many rotations, I didn't put too much throught into it. Some hammers change the moveset so drastically. I tried artemis attack on nemesis to capitalize on those crits
I usually try to get the hammer that gives dash strike a double hit. Is that the one you are referring to?
sweet brook
packrat wasn't referring to that hammer but you should be going for that hammer
the standard combo is special -> 2 dash strikes -> repeat
terse grotto
hmm, I guess I should be working on mechanics of the sword itself some more. I beat hades with fists with just one point in aspect of talos, and it wasn't so hard. And I was just wailing on him with attacks basically. No idea why I struggle with the sword so much, because the idea is basically the same
cedar delta
Can def run Artemis on Attack too, but you'll probably want some other boosts to Attack like Chaos's
And of course Heart Rend is always nice
urban sequoia
Does Hydra's moveset actually change based on its head decoration?
sweet brook
yes
urban sequoia
Zagreus makes remarks about it when it changes
sweet brook
some are like the same, like head slams, but depending on the color it'll have different movesets
purple are waves, orange are missiles, blue is headslam, green is egg spawner
they'll all do head slams, but the blue one will do it more often
they all also have a lunge i believe
sweet brook
no, from its mouth
oh the blue one will have debris fall from the ceiling
when it headslams
urban sequoia
I see yeah
urban sequoia
oh the blue one will have debris fall from the ceiling
I was talking about something like thay because I never got a that hydra
But then I played a run with the bow
And it started doing that move
I thought it was a bow-specific move that it did
sweet brook
yeah it's rough lmao
urban sequoia
Since it wouldn't be able to reach me in any other way
But apparently it's not the case right? It's just blue Hydra's moveset
urban sequoia
I wonder if maybe you get blue hydra more frequently if you play with bow or long range weapons
sweet brook
i just go in and think "dammit it's the blue/pink one"
urban sequoia
Lol I never payed attention because I always felt like it was just the same
I don't even know why, their moves are different, clearly
sweet brook
lmao yeah
craggy beacon
can anyone help with bow as a new player
ive been trying to get into bow but i dont really understand why everyone says its good
broken girder
You need to use dash strikes
sour quiver
can anyone help with bow as a new player
normal bow idk but one of the aspects is amazing
wooden dirge
normal bow idk but one of the aspects is amazing
always be dash-striking since it charges your attack faster
take aphro/arti for attack
your special is useless don't use it(unless chiron)
what does your mirror look like?
and which aspect did u like the most
sour quiver
mine?
i liked hera
and i just unlocked the final part of the mirrior
got most things unlocked excpet for the last 2 thigns and something else thtas 500 for next rank
broken girder
Yeah but do you use fiery tho?
broken girder
And wall clipping
wooden dirge
hammers: flurry-> twin/triple-> point-blank/perfect
you also wanna rebind your key binds so you can easily press attack and cast
and just pom the cast alot, look for chaos boons +1 or +cast dmg
and sell useless pommable boons
sour quiver
sonmeone gave that tip about rebiding haha
sour quiver
second run done ❤️ crush shot is amaxing
wooden dirge
there's a guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
low glade
Ooh okay
sour quiver
Yeah but do you use fiery tho?
is that a good build? for hera? since it only does stuff with undamaged foes
sour quiver
and its also cheap damn
restive portal
||Heat|| is a spoiler in this channel. Stuff for that is best asked in #h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat .
restive portal
No worries.
low glade
||you mean his brother???????||
sour quiver
does it matter 😄
faint parcel
how do cast boons work with the hera bow aspect
craggy peak
||you mean his brother???????||
|| step-brother 😏||
low glade
insane
craggy peak
how do cast boons work with the hera bow aspect
Press the cast button to load the cast. When you use a regular attack, the cast will also shoot at the same time
faint parcel
Press the cast button to load the cast. When you use a regular attack, the cast ...
thats not what i asked
broken girder
how do cast boons work with the hera bow aspect
They improve the cast and I think also add range
craggy peak
Oh wait
broken girder
The usual
craggy peak
Ah
faint parcel
broken girder
Just in your bow
craggy peak
the cast will appear at wherever the arrow stops I think
faint parcel
why is this aspect considered S tier if the cast is pretty weak
broken girder
Crushed shot for example is best, bc it gives the high amount of damage and a lot of range
sour quiver
crush shot is powerfull with hera
broken girder
<:kaslithethink:802748620112658445> why is this aspect considered S tier if the ...
You’re meant to take the aphro cast as first boon
faint parcel
oof