h1-for-new-players

[leaden whale]

...I see. ||"The temple of Styx"||. This'll just go on...

This area is weird

Will I regret buying this? It seems Diamonds are a limited resource

Oh I can't send pics here. It's the ||Fishing rod for 1 diamond from house renovation||

[devout basalt]

1 diamond is not a lot in the grand scheme of things you will get more

And fishing goes so hard

[sweet brook]

the fishing rod will pay itself back

[leaden whale]

Okay, got it! Thanks! One more question I have

Is there a point to giving more nectar to people who I already have the keepsake for? I see it gives +1 heart but is that just RP and interaction value or are there gameplay rewards gated behind some/most of those?

Like if I keep gifting Charon will it make the shop cheaper

[sweet brook]

from a pure gameplay perspective, it does nothing

[leaden whale]

Understood

[sweet brook]

it advances various plot points

[leaden whale]

Plot points necessary to end the game, or plot points necessary to modify my story experience?

Is it progression or enhancement?

[sweet brook]

once you get everyone's keepsake, then you might as well start giving it out

[sweet brook]

for now, it's more like "oh cool this is happening now"

but it's not that important

as of now anyways

so i guess story experience?

[leaden whale]

Okay. Sounds like it might be more important when I get further, from a purely story perspective.

Thanks, that tells me where to prioritize it

[sweet brook]

you'll know when it becomes important lol

[leaden whale]

noted. Say no more lol

[sweet brook]

the game doesn't tell you explicitly but it's just implied

or maybe it is explicit i dont remember but you'll know lol

[leaden whale]

I trust you ^_^ I can pick up on stuff like that

Especially now that I know to look out for it

Uhh what the heck

||Megara is replaced by another boss, this time with a green wing||. What did I do to trigger this?

[sweet brook]

that's normal lol

[leaden whale]

Is there a random % chance it will be her instead of ||Meg|| each time?

[sweet brook]

at this point yeah

[leaden whale]

okay

Is she supposed to be harder or just different

[sweet brook]

hm

i think both lmao

[cobalt bay]

Maybe harder at first but easier once you get the hang of it imo

[untold ravine]

what do I give cerberus when I encounter him in styx

[leaden whale]

need to go into the rooms at the top until you get the sack

Did the bone hydra always have ||pink and blue horns||? Is this another ||alternate version||? Also do I need to be spoilering things yet?

[untold ravine]

Should I go into the rooms@with a boss or no

[cobalt bay]

To your first questions, no and yes. It’s not really a different creature, it just uses different kind of attacks.

[sweet brook]

no need to spoiler anything lol

final boss and onwards only

[leaden whale]

it's semi-RNG if I'm not mistaken, so you might need to go into 2-3 rooms minimum to find it.

[untold ravine]

Oh ok

[cobalt bay]

I think minimum 2 and maximum 4. But it is entirely down to luck.

[leaden whale]

that is such a sus statement

but okay

I'm sure I'll understand once I get there

[leaden whale]

enjoy

[sweet brook]

how's that sus lmao

[sweet brook]

min 2 max 5

[leaden whale]

because usually there is no "onwards" after a final boss

[sweet brook]

well

story stuff

you gotta spoiler that "onwards" stuff

it's a very story oriented game lol

[leaden whale]

every game wraps up the story after the final boss. nothing sus there

Alright, alright, I just interpreted it as "after you defeat the final boss, there's more things you do, and you can't talk about those things, only escaping hell (assuming that happens as per the introduction and premise of the game)"

Not simply "don't talk about the ending"

(I even had this theory where ||you would continue to go higher until you reach heaven or something|| but I genuinely have no basis for that theory)

[sweet brook]

play and find out lol

[leaden whale]

Yeah, I'll go ahead and do that xD gotta git gud first since I havent been able to please cerb yet

[untold ravine]

im about to fight the final boss for the first time and I'm freaking out, tips

[sweet brook]

spoiler the final boss

best tip is to not die

doesnt matter

not obvious for some others

[leaden whale]

bruh

that was not obvious to me

guess there's no point in being in this channel

No, because many games have these things called "twists"

[sweet brook]

it's not obvious for everyone

[cobalt bay]

Read the channel description

[leaden whale]

I had theories that the final boss would be a number of others including ||Achilles, Persephone, and Nyx||

[cobalt bay]

You don’t get to ignore rules just because you figured it out

[leaden whale]

But now those theories are pointless

<@&456908176877551658>

[cobalt bay]

I thought it was obvious too but it’s not up to me to decide how others experience the game

[waxen sapphire]

hi, hello

[leaden whale]

Hi, Fir3 spoiled the final boss without spoilering it in this channel and is refusing to edit it because it was "obvious"

[waxen sapphire]

@untold ravine Please spoiler anything involving the final boss or content afterwards in this channel!

[leaden whale]

And imo ||it's really only obvious if you don't expect the game to have a plot twist... I was actually expecting a twist ending.. but now I cant do that||

[waxen sapphire]

Unfortunately if you don't I will in fact just delete it.

I'm sorry, AD

[cobalt bay]

I will try to spoil as little as possible with this but ||the game is not nearly over after the final boss||

[untold ravine]

Chill all I wanted to ask was how to beat him cuz it's my first time fighting him

[waxen sapphire]

That's fine, but you need to spoiler it if you mention the boss by name.

[leaden whale]

please respect other people and the rules then

[untold ravine]

I changed it

[waxen sapphire]

Thank you!

[leaden whale]

I do appreciate that. I had a sneaking suspicion this was true based on how the channel description of this channel is worded. ||"hades-for-new-players" "nothing after the final boss" ||

So there will be ||room for twists furthermore|| at least ^_^

[cobalt bay]

Yes 👍🏻

[sweet brook]

lmao yeah

[leaden whale]

I would lower your expectations regarding winning the fight the first time. you need learn their moves and animations to get it done but you might get lucky

[cobalt bay]

With all things in this game, it will probably seem overwhelmingly difficult at first but with practice it gets very easy. Expect to fight the final boss many times.

[untold ravine]

oh yeah no I got destroyed when he started doing ||wave attack||

pretty good getting to the final boss on my second day playing tho

[tidal condor]

Mechanics of the final boss are also considered spoilers so keep that in mind

And to spoiler things you put || these around the text ||

Very easy

Alternatively you can ask questions and rant in #h1-discussion which has no spoiler tag rules in place

[leaden whale]

Hi, Charon is offering me a golden-ornamented brown bag in Elysium for 125 coin. Is this a random item that I already know like a heart or boon, or will it be a special item I can only get from Charon?

[sweet brook]

both

[viscid notch]

It is a random boon, cant be a Hermes tho

[leaden whale]

okay so it's just an olympian boon then, thank you

[tidal condor]

Yes

If you have already met 4 or more gods it will be from one of the gods you’ve met

If you haven’t met 4 yet it could be a new god or one you’ve seen

[leaden whale]

BTW in theseus/minotaur which one do you reccommend focusing down first

[tidal condor]

Minotaur almost always

[leaden whale]

Gotcha, thanks!

[sweet brook]

stay nearish the walls so when the bull charges, he's more likely to slam into a wall

and try to keep a pillar between you and theseus to block spear throws, otherwise be mindful of the target on your head

[leaden whale]

How do I avoid getting sniped by theseus

Take a big ol 20 damage now and then

[sweet brook]

there's a sound indicator iirc

or keep a pillar between the two of you like i said

[tidal condor]

Pink target on you when he’s aiming

Then beep beep boop noises before the throw

And he yanks it back after, just like special on zag spear

So you have to avoid both ways

[obtuse holly]

What can i do with keys after i unlocked all mirror and weapons

[sweet brook]

iirc there's a special shop offer to trade 15 keys for 1 titan blood every now and then

but other than that not much

[slate finch]

i started a new save, how do you unlock base ||extreme measures||

just ||1-3||

[sweet brook]

||em|| is a spoiler

it's unlocked once you see other fury forms

idk if you just need to see 1 other or both

i think anyways

[slate finch]

oh yeah i forgot because i'm playing on ||hell mode||

[leaden whale]

Got to the final boss for the first time! Any tips I should know off the bat for ||Hades||?

||His helmet is cool btw||

Got him to like 30% first time :O ||I got hit by the circle slash SO OFTEN|| how do I avoi that

[sweet brook]

||the circle wave thingy, you can dash through them (dashes have full iframes)||

oh wait wrong thing

still same concept tho

||it's also telegraphed by a thin white circle before the swing actually goes through, much like theseus||

like every boss fight, you want to learn the fight and get used to it

[leaden whale]

gotcha

Is titan's blood an infinite resource? Are there renewable ways to get it?

[gray haven]

Yes, you can trade up for Titan Blood at the Wretched Broker.

And Charon's shop in the Temple of Styx has a 50% chance to offer one for 1,200 obols.

[leaden whale]

Don't think I've met the wretched broker yet, but I'll keep that in mind

[gray haven]

In the Lounge.

[sweet brook]

technically infinite, but you'll get plenty in this game later on

[mental latch]

Silly question... what does 'heat' refer to?

[leaden whale]

is "||Blitz disc||" good?

[sweet brook]

That's a spoiler lol

[sweet brook]

No need to spoiler this, and yes it's pretty good

[inner urchin]

||after you beat the game once, you can put in certain challenges to make your game harder. The number of challenges you have on is your heat number||

[sweet brook]

Zeus shield is a top aspect in the game and actually makes shield special useful

[sweet brook]

2nd statement isn't exactly accurate but it's good enough lol

[leaden whale]

damn, twice today other people don't spoil things and I have to see it. At least I couldn't really deduce anything from that one

[sweet brook]

Eh this one isn't that big but per the rules of this channel it's a spoiler

And to be fair it's understandable to why people don't spoiler it

Mostly because they forget, partially for other reasons

[prime wren]

I haven't seen Thanatos in a long while, does he show up again? I wanted to fill up his relationship hearts

[sweet brook]

He will eventually yeah

[sweet brook]

adding onto this because i was a bit busy earlier
slap zeus special on it, draw as many enemy's attention so they're in a group (can throw and recall blitz disc during this time if you want), throw it out once a good chunk of them are grouped, and bull rush into it

for your hammer, you want explosive return

your secondary hammer, ideally empowering flight, but other good ones are ferocious guard, breaching rush, and sudden rush

some other decent ones but those are the ones that stick out to me

[leaden whale]

thank you!

What are your thoughts on spear aspects? To me it actually seems like, barring the last one which I can't see, Aspect of Zagreus is best because of how strong the special can be (especially with exploding special hammer)

[slate finch]

achilles is generally agreed to be the strongest

try playing a cast build with it

[sweet brook]

Achilles is the best yeah

The damage boost it gives is huge if you cycle it well enough

Also considering casts tend to have some of the highest damage values, you can boost that damage by a lot

Hunting blades and lightning phalanx are great for this

[fringe aspen]

just started like 3 hours ago and this fun as hell

i kinda suck tho

i barely get by meg and ive only gotten past her twice so far

[leaden whale]

YOOO I DID IT I BEAT ||HADES||

Now I'm guessing the real game starts

...nvm

||I did not beat hades. phase 2 time. full heal.||

:(

boss hard

[hushed cape]

He bout to pull out the belt of hades

[civic elm]

Oh I absolutely felt that on my first blind run

Omg bot deletes EMOTES with profanity

[quick monolith]

Only played 30 minutes so far but it's already pretty fun, assuming it's only gonna get better as I get further and unlock more things

[gray haven]

Indeed.

[sweet brook]

classic

[quick monolith]

also preeetty sure Azeron Cyborg and mouse counts as MnK (it's a gaming keypad) so I signed up for my roles

[slate finch]

what? 🤬

oh it's just profanity in the emote names that makes sense

but yeah ||hades phase 2|| just kinda kills you if you're not prepared

[untold ravine]

Should I upgrade aspects of weapons as soon as I get the option or beat them in base mode first?

[jagged stump]

Honestly

Almost all the Zagreus aspects suck

[sweet brook]

half are good, half are bad

bow, shield, and rail are good

[jagged stump]

Especially at level 1, since you don't get anything

[jagged stump]

What does shield do again

[sweet brook]

more base damage

[jagged stump]

I'd unlock more weapons first

[sweet brook]

max lvl is +15

[jagged stump]

Kinda lame honestly

[sweet brook]

i mean it's really good

it's not impressive

well it doesnt look that way anyways

esp considering base atk damage is 25 and max bull rush is only 40

[austere fulcrum]

I've been having a blast with hades

Managed to get to ||Theseus|| by my 18th or so run

Had a really good build with athena and artemis start

[rapid pond]

Does anybody know how I can make my discord display at what stage I'm on Hades? Currently for me it just says "Currently playing Hades" but for a friend it displays exactly what stage he is in the game

[viscid notch]

Try running it using the other api

So if you’re on directx try running it with vulkan and vice versa

[rapid pond]

Do you know how I can modify it? I pressed to run it on Direct X and never ask me again

[viscid notch]

Uhh I don’t remember, it’s probably somewhere like properties > launch options but you can ask in #h1-tech-support to make sure, it might also vary depending on what store you got it from. I’m not near my laptop so I cant check atm

[rapid pond]

I managed to change it but it didn't do anything unfortunately

[coral stump]

Where can I find the current mirror meta?

[viscid notch]

#h1-for-new-players message

[coral stump]

Tyvm 🙂
Could you pin that maybe?

[viscid notch]

Well it's not very elaborative, just a quick description of the upgrades we take and why, it could be improved but I don't have the energy for it. Aside from that, I dont have pin perms lol but I dont think it's worth pinning regardless

[coral stump]

Alright, just thought it might help newbies to get a starting point

[viscid notch]

Yea that's fair

[brazen oxide]

Coming back after a long while cause I always drop the game after only a couple runs. Wanting to actually commit for once before the new game comes out.

Had a question

Best ||Aspect|| to upgrade/unlock first?

[viscid notch]

Check pins

[brazen oxide]

ah those werent there i last was in the server

ty

[leaden whale]

Is aspect of demeter good for fists?

[mental latch]

I have gotten boon of Poseidon

[sweet brook]

Yes

[mental latch]

I have also gain Poseidon assist or something similar

[leaden whale]

Only noticing a fishing spot as I'm in the animation leaving the room

[sweet brook]

if you notice that, you can pause and quit

it'll take you right before you leave the room

[leaden whale]

Noted, I'll do that in the future

Losing 100hp on the witches circle in asphodel because I had no deflect abilities and am bad at bullet hells

[sweet brook]

it do be like that

this is why i only play the one shot aspects lmao

[mental latch]

Uncle Poseidon needs to teach ne fishing

[sweet brook]

once you get the rod he gives you the legendary "huge catch" lmao

[sterile plover]

still praying for it

[manic gulch]

what can i do when i have ||favour of a god||

[quick monolith]

Just died to the first boss. I think I have a strategy but it'll have to wait until I get my next run rolling.

[manic gulch]

what weapon

[quick monolith]

Sword

[manic gulch]

hmm

just out when he starts his animation

[sweet brook]

meg isn't male lmao

[manic gulch]

first

bruh

i read final

oooof

im blind

[sweet brook]

lmao

[manic gulch]

is ur status meant to be ironic

[sweet brook]

yes

[manic gulch]

alr alr

i hope there is zag cameo or smthing

in the new one

[leaden whale]

Uhh I just got to the final boss of Elysium again and this time it's just the bull??

Is this going to be harder or easier than when it's both of them?

This seems easier

[sweet brook]

that's a miniboss

[leaden whale]

o

Do people speedrun this game

[sweet brook]

yes

many

a new modded wr was set very recently lmao

i also speedrun the game, but i'm very mediocre compared to others lol

[green moth]

is there even a ending

in this game

i have been playing for so long

[viscid notch]

Indeed there is

[green moth]

how to get that ending

[leaden whale]

If there is we might not want to talk about it here

[green moth]

yea i dont want spoilers

i want to jsut know

how long it would

take for me to obtain the

ending

[leaden whale]

Howlongtobeat.com says around 22ish hours on average

[green moth]

hades 2 coming

17h in

[leaden whale]

This will vary with your skill level tho

[green moth]

well lets see

[leaden whale]

So is the best strategy

dangit that emote's text is too small to read when its not alone

[viscid notch]

Always works

[green moth]

how to open aspects

the ?????? ones

[dusty vault]

Check #h1-story-discussion pinned messages

[green moth]

basically just by playing seems like it

[sweet brook]

you can get every achievement and story line finished without looking up anything lmao

and every hidden aspect

[obtuse holly]

Is dark foresight really superior choice over olympian favor

Yea but getting weaker boons

[sweet brook]

rarity on boons don't matter too much unless it's hermes or chaos, but at the same time it's not that big of a deal

but also that's why you run gods' pride

20% chance of epic

[obtuse holly]

I run both tbh

Yea but you arent guaranteed to get rarity chaos boon

[sweet brook]

you just end up with less boons, less poms, less hearts, less gold, and might not get an early hammer

[sweet brook]

chaos rarity hardly matters most of the time tbh

a 30% atk bonus is still good for a lot of weapons

reset for epic doom start anyways lmao

[obtuse holly]

I just had that problem thats why im asking

Was playing without favor

Got common ares rift

[sweet brook]

rarity only matters on a handful of boons

[obtuse holly]

With epic upgrades and eurydice didnt upgrade rarity

[sweet brook]

ambrosia delight is pretty mid anyways lmao

[obtuse holly]

Like arent you getting more stacked percents with high rarity

Hmm i see

[sweet brook]

yes, but also just use poms
most rarity differences are just 1 pom. for stuff like ares atk/special and aphrodite atk, rarity also matters but like i said earlier, it's a very small handful. also, aphrodite atk is still really good even at common

[obtuse holly]

Ok how about golden touch and deep pockets

[sweet brook]

deep pockets

being able to afford stuff in tartarus midshop is much more valuable unless you're gold farming for the charon shop in styx

getting 50 gold from the start to midshop is fairly easy, and you can secure a god into your god pool if needed

[obtuse holly]

Ah i see i was usually avoiding charon shop at tartarus

[sweet brook]

not everyone plays for time

and if you're broke it's not worth going to shop

unless ofc, time

buddy you can die in every single room that's not a good point to make

[obtuse holly]

Idk i just dont die in tartarus and asphodel

[sweet brook]

also that yeah

not everyone dies in tart that easily

so like

you dont have to take the free room

exactly

but we're not at that point

skipping midshop is fine if you know you cant afford anything

with deep pockets you're much more likely to afford something

but if you take a pauper's curse then you prob wont

and it's a valid choice to skip it if the other room is like a hammer

or another god that you need

skipping midshop in ely is probably more of a death sentence than skipping midshop in tart or aspho

but even then you could probably stil be fine

skill issue

dont get hit

dont get hit

not impossible

[obtuse holly]

Also if i play dark foresight picking privileged status would be better yeah ?

More boons = better chance to have cursed effects like jolted , ruptured ed etc

[sweet brook]

still not guaranteed

[obtuse holly]

Hmm i see

[sweet brook]

and also you might be forced into weird combos/boons trying to force the extra damage

like "yeah i have aphrodite atk and poseidon special + rupture on bow, i can use priv status!"
but then bow special is worthless

and it's a waste of time

||Beowulf passion flare snurst||

Also the only one valid there is like Chiron lmao

Drunk fists would probably need like passion dash

And I wouldn't use it on Zeus shield either

[patent sentinel]

есть кто поможет?

или тут все на английском ?

[sterile plover]

Я могу использовать Google Translate?

[patent sentinel]

тоді я можу українською розмоляти?

в мене ігра не бажая зберігатися

зараз скину фото

[harsh shard]

hi, when do ||Alecto and Tisiphone|| show up instead of ||Meg||? I’ve gotten past ||Meg|| a few times but still no sign of ||Alecto or Tisiphone||.

oh okay! thank you

[patent sentinel]

#h1-tech-support message

ось така проблема в мене

[rapid pond]

Do I have to use the spear to unlock it's hidden aspect or just invest the blood into other Spear Aspects

yeah I ended the run multiple times even while using the spear but nothing triggered

Achilles has been pretty absent unfortunately

[leaden whale]

love healing with stubborn defiance

[green moth]

how to ulocked the locked eharths

[leaden whale]

Do things that buff my attack also buff my dash attack

[dusty vault]

yeah

some sword hammers dont affect dash strikes tho (shadow/cursed slash for example)

[leaden whale]

What about the -60%maxHP one that makes my slashes do lifesteal

[sweet brook]

that's cursed slash

and also a bad sword hammer

[leaden whale]

IDK, I'm getting a good amount of use out of it especially since I keep getting heart-ups (I'm at 120hp WITH THE EFFECT) but I can see how it can be a crutch

[sweet brook]

cursed slash wont save you from a wombo combo lmao

[leaden whale]

Then I simply won't get hit by one

[sweet brook]

fair

[full mural]

one of my favorite hammers for the sword is the one that lets you continuously attack while holding the attack button

[leaden whale]

https://prnt.sc/3OhhfBMumTkr Boons currently

[sweet brook]

also the other issue is that the standard sword combo is
special -> dstrike -> dstrike -> repeat
and since it doesn't affect dstrike, you're not gonna get hp back. if you want hp back, your dps is just gonna lack

[sweet brook]

flurry slash is also an eh hammer lmao

[full mural]

it isn't bad though, especially with artemis

[sweet brook]

that's not a lot of boons considering you're in ely rn lol

[full mural]

not artemis

||demeter||

[sweet brook]

that's a spoiler in this channel btw

[leaden whale]

I told you I went for a lot of hearts lol

[sweet brook]

this is spoiler

[full mural]

whoops

[leaden whale]

Thankfully I've already experienced that one

[full mural]

sorry

[leaden whale]

So you didn't spoil anyone prior to blocking it out

[sweet brook]

i mean fair but also you're lacking dps and poms as well

[leaden whale]

(||I've gotten hades all the way to the part where he pretend dies then goes to full health and kills me||)

[sweet brook]

fun stuff

[sweet brook]

happens once you ||reach the surface||, outcome of that doesnt matter

[sweet brook]

wait is that hoarding slash

you're not spending money either are you lmao

[full mural]

I don't really use hoarding slash

[sweet brook]

it's not a good hammer

it doesn't modify base damage

it like

slaps on the extra (negligible) damage at the end

so it doesn't get affected by % modifiers or crits

[full mural]

so like ||bouldy's boons?||

[sweet brook]

nah

those actually give you a % modifier

[full mural]

even then, the modifier isn't much

[sweet brook]

i mean yeah but hammers are much more powerful

with hammers, you could be sacrificing better upgrades

with ||bouldy|| it literally doesnt matter if you get it or not

[viscid notch]

what did you say

[sweet brook]

[leaden whale]

Did theseus and minotaur with that build without having to use stubborn defiance :D ill admit mino kill was easier going than theseus mostly bc theseus kept blocking me preventing some heals

I also regret not having a boon that makes me do damage upon getting hit, those would be super useful with this playstyle

[sweet brook]

vengeance boons are neat

[full mural]

yea I think theseus fight is one of the hardest ones in the game

[sweet brook]

would've been better if you popped SD and then killed them right after if you were below 30% finishing just now lol

[full mural]

it is once you have everything unlocked and know how they work but until you escape, they can be a major challenge

[obtuse holly]

Focusing on asterius first always seemed like right decision

Tho i always hated his fight

When he gots demeter as support

[sweet brook]

No, all bosses get knocked back

It's just reduced a lot

But it's visible if you look close enough

[minor dagger]

thanks

whoops sorry

i only took 3 hits all fight

[dusty vault]

should edit to spoiler mark/change it to say final boss

[minor dagger]

i just deleted them

[sweet brook]

that's fine

[open gust]

Heya,probably a stupid question I just got Poseidon's aid, the hell is that and what's a call?

[full mural]

a call is a very powerful attack that needs to be charged for you to use it. All gods have their own call

I'm not sure how to describe Poseidon's call

[minor dagger]

i hate detemer boons

[open gust]

how do I go about charging it/using it?

[full mural]

it'll charge over time in fights but there are some boons some gods give that lets it charge faster by doing different things

[open gust]

Oh cool

[full mural]

spoiler

[open gust]

do I have to press a key to use it?

[full mural]

yes

[open gust]

just to check that bar in the bottom left is the charge right?

[dusty vault]

through dmg done/being hit

[full mural]

if you fully charge the call it'll either be stronger or last longer depending on the call

[full mural]

yes

[open gust]

awesome

ty!

[full mural]

np!

[dusty vault]

and yeah there is a few boons that either increase the call generation (zeus/pos) or give it auto charge (hermes/zeus aphro duo boon)

[full mural]

btw the charge will go back to 0 at the end of a fight

[open gust]

like room or?

[full mural]

yea room

[open gust]

Oh ic

[full mural]

once all the enemies are dead, the charge will go down to completely unfilled

[open gust]

I just used it

that was sick

[full mural]

yea, calls are very useful

and there are some that are really only useful if it's fully charged

[open gust]

Do you only get calls occasionally or?

[dusty vault]

there is also 2 things that makes the bar start charged a bit (aether net on charon wells and an athena boon)

they are offered as any other boon

[open gust]

Cool Cool

[dusty vault]

the first time pos forces you into it is so you learn what are calls

[full mural]

boons that increase charge only show up if you have a call

[open gust]

As for nectar am I fine giving it to whoever?

[full mural]

yep

[dusty vault]

try to give at least 1 to everyone but yeah just throw it to whoever you want

[leaden whale]

im on the most INSANE blade rift run

[full mural]

nice!

[leaden whale]

My blade rifts are on dash and cast, seek enemies (artemis duo), pull enemies in, AND do more damage with each consecutive hit thanks to the ares legendary

[full mural]

yea, the first time you give a necter to an npc you'll get an item that can help you on future runs

[leaden whale]

Each one does like 400-500 damage xD

[full mural]

nice!

blade rift runs are very fun if you have it set up correctly

[leaden whale]

wrong link

bruh

alright ill send it later, bot hates me

https://prnt.sc/ufiBshlxW87m

[dusty vault]

hunting blades my beloved

also that looks fun to keep spamming call

[sweet brook]

smair at home

[leaden whale]

GUYS I DID IT

I BEAT ||HADES|| FOR REAL THIS TIME, no ||more phases||

[full mural]

congrats!

time for a beautiful moment

[leaden whale]

||https://prnt.sc/vWzpZpjrqnyl ||

My first ever ||victory|| :D

I was using the love-enhanced special attack from the gun (hammered to be done 3 times in rapid succession), and the Ares/aphrodite duo is so nice not to mention the boon making weak also making enemies take more damage

[gilded belfry]

hey, i am new to the game, there is something i should know ?

[tidal condor]

Victory screens go in #h1-victory-boasting and you don’t even have to upload externally there 🙂

Triple bomb isn’t as good as cluster usually but it’s pretty nice damage

Triple rocket is weird though

Easy to not use all 3 so you don’t reload them and next time you try to special there’s only 1 left

[gilded belfry]

Nothing at all, not even the story ?

[open gust]

Is there a way to see my current boons?

I can see the images but not the actual text

[tidal condor]

Empty your brain before playing hit game Hades™️, now with sequel coming soon

[open gust]

ty

[tidal condor]

It’s the - on controller

[gilded belfry]

I will just skip the dialogs so nothing at all ?

[open gust]

One more thing, minotaur rush does it just activate on it's own or is there a point I have to release the shield?

[tidal condor]

Lol

You have to release

[open gust]

is it max charge or?

[gilded belfry]

I dont play games for the story, i play for the gameplay

[tidal condor]

It should flash

If you don’t care about the story why are you asking us if you need to know anything about the story first

[open gust]

the reason I'm hooked on this game right now is cause the characters dialogue and story are amazing, you should follow it through

[tidal condor]

If you skip all the dialogue and can’t figure out what to do next that’s on you buddy

[gilded belfry]

Ultrakill, hollow knight, dmc3, risk of rain 2, terraria, and metal gear rising

[open gust]

You played hk and don't care for story??

hks plot was amazing

[gilded belfry]

Not at all, the gameplay is fun

[open gust]

Each to their own ig

[gilded belfry]

But i dont play for the story, i want to play the game, not see a film or read a book

[tidal condor]

You’re allowed to do that but why do we care

You asked if you need to know anything before playing

We said no

So play the game

[gilded belfry]

Personally, i dont play games for history, only for gameplay, if the gameplay of a game isnt fun, i will not play the game even if the story is great

[tidal condor]

How would he even know the story was great

I think we’re being trolled so I’m out

[gilded belfry]

Lets just move on from this or this will never end

Oh, ok i guess

[little tiger]

No spoilers as in end boss onward means end boss can be spoiled right?

[tidal condor]

No spoilers as in everything that happens after your first time to the surface

[little tiger]

Hades died in endgame

[tidal condor]

So boss goes in spoiler tags

[little tiger]

Batman died in asphodel, he couldn't get past ||lernie|| (the hydra)

i spoilered it

Wait zag can call it lernie before he beats hades?

ok

[tidal condor]

Hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel as well as the final boss

Just keep talking to him though

[tired canopy]

Do dodge, damage reduction and crit chance stack additively, or multiplicatively?

[tidal condor]

As long as there’s an exclamation mark over his head it’s new dialogue

[tidal condor]

Additively except damage reduction

[autumn vapor]

he hasnt had a new dialogue for the last 10 runs and Ill delete the og msg

[tidal condor]

What did you spend blood on?

[autumn vapor]

aspect of nem for stygian, chiron, and achilles

[tidal condor]

So that’s 3 blood

[autumn vapor]

4 in nem and chiron

[tidal condor]

Ok

[autumn vapor]

i lvld them

[tidal condor]

Have you interacted with the spear? Maybe you missed the dialogue

If it’s not already in the spear just keep doing runs I guess

[autumn vapor]

I been checking the spear every time I talk to achilles

[tidal condor]

Those are the only requirements

[autumn vapor]

guess back to doing runs

[tired canopy]

So I assume Nemesis sword might be effective to combo with Artemis boons?

[tidal condor]

It is, yes

[autumn vapor]

ares, arti and athena are my favorites for nem

[autumn vapor]

so i figured it out, you have to have all the aspects for the spear unlocked to get the hidden aspect

[tidal condor]

No you don’t

You just got the dialogue finally

I don’t have Aspect of Hades unlocked on my hell mode save and I have the hidden unlocked

But congrats!🎉

[autumn vapor]

i checked achilles first, no dialogue, went and unlock the aspect of hades (the only other one not unlocked) and the dialogue immediately unlocked, thats weird

[autumn vapor]

yeee thanks for the help earlier

[tidal condor]

Leaving great hall and coming back rerolls conversations if you haven’t talked to people

..sometimes

It’s kinda confusing whether or not it will

[autumn vapor]

could be a thing of interacting with the weapons themselves but only the devs really know for sure

ig so lol

[fringe aspen]

these fists are amazing

still cant beat the hydra tho

[full mural]

soon enough you'll be able to beat that overgrown snake

you can do it

[leaden whale]

What triggered the unlocking of aspects?

I have aspects unlocked but my partner doesn't

Is it having a certain amount of runs? using the weps enough? getting to ||hades||?

[sweet brook]

unlocking every weapon

[leaden whale]

but they have every weapon unlocked

[sweet brook]

did they do a run after unlocking every single one

[leaden whale]

oh maybe not

[fringe aspen]

nvm got that MF

[fringe aspen]

you right i did do it

[full mural]

congrats!

[leaden whale]

is it just me or is cerberus's collar an S-tier keepsake

[sweet brook]

compared to acorn, tooth, and spear point, it's probably in the lower half of those 4

acorn prevents a ton of boss damage, mainly the final one, tooth is general insurance, and spear point helps specifically styx poison and wombo combos

collar can give you more overall hp than tooth assuming you have all 3 DDs tho

[leaden whale]

So it is good, right, just not the best?

[sweet brook]

it's alright, just very outclassed

[leaden whale]

What unlocks duos? does anything unlock that?

[sweet brook]

they have prereqs

you should have your codex at this point

you can check it for prereqs i think

unless that's a contractor upgrade

[tidal condor]

Specific things unlock each duo

One boon from each god in the pair, at minimum

[little tiger]

yea boon list is a contractor thing

[tidal condor]

And only certain boons are prerequisites for each duo. Sometimes it’s only one specific boon, other times it’s nearly any core

[leaden whale]

https://prnt.sc/OlyCxo7GJQ39

Caught a cosmic fish from the realm of chaos. Is that worth more than a normal fish?

[hushed cape]

Ye

[leaden whale]

(Also, I love the lore implication that the realm of chaos just has fish swimmin round)

[tidal condor]

It’s worth darkness

[quiet marten]

guys im on fence whether to buy hades or not

[tidal condor]

Only the fish in chaos are worth darkness

Sounds painful

[quiet marten]

like i never played a roguelike

[tidal condor]

Buy it so you don’t have to keep sitting on a fence

That’s bad for your health

It’s on sale on the eshop rn I believe

[quiet marten]

what did you like about the game? and what you didnt?

[sweet brook]

hades was a first time roguelike for many players, and a lot of them have hundreds/thousands of hours in the game lmao

[tidal condor]

Everything and nothing respectively

[hushed cape]

Everything

[leaden whale]

[sweet brook]

mid duo, but prophecy gaming

[tidal condor]

Not a pog duo but you need the prophecy

[hushed cape]

Hades almost made me gay

[quiet marten]

it is on steam, but i only got these 10$ and i need to wait for 8 more months till i buy a new game

[sweet brook]

wait spoiler lmao

[leaden whale]

oh i thought it was a pog duo

[tidal condor]

I got several months out of it so

[leaden whale]

Deleted it sorry, I didn't realize she was part of that

[hushed cape]

Same

[tidal condor]

It’s a very good deal for 10

[sweet brook]

lmao it's fine

[tidal condor]

You won’t find much else for 10 with this much playability

If anything

[sweet brook]

isn't it like $12.50 on steam

[quiet marten]

regional pricing

[sweet brook]

ah

[quiet marten]

10$ is pretty costly for me

[sweet brook]

fair enough

[quiet marten]

like its enough to give me food for 10 days atleast

[sweet brook]

oof

[quiet marten]

😳 yeah

[sweet brook]

prioritize your living situation first

[hushed cape]

[quiet marten]

i guess imma just take a leap and buy it

[sweet brook]

based

[tidal condor]

Yeah hunger is temporary

[sweet brook]

lmfao

[tidal condor]

Hades is forever

[sweet brook]

hades is forever until hades 2 comes out

[quiet marten]

it is pretty good lol

[sweet brook]

fair enough then

[quiet marten]

im just saying like 10$ is not as small as other countries

[sweet brook]

yeah i get you

[hushed cape]

But yeah you’re practically robbing supergiant with that deal

[sweet brook]

i think this is the biggest sale hades has been on

it's normally like 25% off or something

[tidal condor]

What is even the base price?

[sweet brook]

25 usd

[quiet marten]

its just my last remaining pocket money, i had gotten 50$ approx, bought spiderman remastered and was left with 10$

[tidal condor]

I paid 14.99 on eshop

[hushed cape]

Same

[quiet marten]

and i was confused whether to buy hades, undertale or celeste

[tidal condor]

You’ll get more time out of this than Spider-Man probably

[quiet marten]

or disco elysium

[tidal condor]

If you click with it

I want disco

[sweet brook]

oh celeste is also a good game, much cheaper if you wait for a sale lol

[tidal condor]

It’s on sale too but no money rip

[quiet marten]

i bought spiderman 4 days ago and finished it in 3days...

[sweet brook]

lmfao

gamer

[tidal condor]

Refund it

[quiet marten]

100% completion

[sweet brook]

oh bruh

[hushed cape]

Bruh

[quiet marten]

70 hours on the game so not possible 😂

[tidal condor]

That’s depressing for 40 dollhairs

[hushed cape]

Anyway buy hades

[sweet brook]

true

[quiet marten]

yeah bought it

installing now

[tidal condor]

50 cents an hour

[quiet marten]

lets hope its as good as people make it to be

[quiet marten]

i didnt say i was done with it lmao

imma play it often when i feel like i want to feel like spiderman

[tidal condor]

You will be once you play this 😎

[quiet marten]

and that story alone was a huge bangers

worth the 40$

its the first game where i shed a tear

in the end

at spoiler

thing is ive never played a roguelike so i have no idea what im getting myself into

[sweet brook]

a lot of death

the gimmick is that every time you die, you start at the beginning, no hard check points

but you also advance the story each time you die anyways so you're not really missing out

[tidal condor]

And each time you play it’s random

You won’t always get the same items etc

[full mural]

random-ish

[quiet marten]

yeah i know that, but idk if its my style cause the closest game i played to die and you restart from beginning is temple run 😂

[sweet brook]

lmfao

good story, good characters with great voice acting and art, good game play

what's not to love

ton of replay-ability too

[full mural]

for sure

[quiet marten]

im gonna go with a positive mindset

[hushed cape]

Go in blind

[leaden whale]

Uhhh not sure if this is just rare or if I unlocked it with beating the final boss so I'm gonna spoiler it anyway but what does this do? Is there a risk or downside to this?

[quiet marten]

oops

sorry

[full mural]

the writing is great and the art direction is beautiful

[leaden whale]

||https://prnt.sc/NpZe2E2PJvYS||

[full mural]

this

[quiet marten]

anyways, i was saying that too much numbers on the screen turns me off, stats and all

[sweet brook]

take it and find out :)

[full mural]

grab it

[leaden whale]

but what if I like this run

[hushed cape]

Take it it’s a gift

[full mural]

then maybe not

[sweet brook]

i'd simply just win the run

[full mural]

yea

same

[leaden whale]

alright, you only get one shot at life. I'll try it.

[full mural]

have fun! ;)

[hushed cape]

Not if you’re zagreus

[tidal condor]

Wow you really stole Charon’s lunch money

[leaden whale]

||....he did not appreciate that||

[tidal condor]

What a jerk

[sweet brook]

lmao classic

i mean ||you did steal from him how could you tbh||

[leaden whale]

how much hp does he have

[sweet brook]

yes

[full mural]

yes!

[tidal condor]

several

[full mural]

he has hp!

[tidal condor]

Definitely more than 1 Hp

Maybe even two

[hushed cape]

Definitely more than you

[leaden whale]

OST slaps though

[full mural]

enough to be able to survive a ||thanatos attack||

[leaden whale]

yep I died

[full mural]

rip

[tidal condor]

Now you can buy the OST at the music stand!

[full mural]

woo!

[tidal condor]

It is in fact a banger

[hushed cape]

For like 17 diamonds

[tidal condor]

3

[quiet marten]

alright this is it

[tidal condor]

Which is basically 17

[quiet marten]

game finished downloading

[full mural]

oh yea ||if you beat him you get a discount in the shops for the rest of the run||

[tidal condor]

Have fun

[hushed cape]

Pog

[full mural]

have fun!

[leaden whale]

Ooo I'll definitely focus a run toward that then

Is there something specific I have to do to trigger the ||fight|| being available

[hushed cape]

No it’s random

[tidal condor]

Nope it’s random

[leaden whale]

Cool cool.

[tidal condor]

Only in the midshop though

[quiet marten]

guys any guides i need to watch before starting my game?

[tidal condor]

So, you have to take midshops

[full mural]

it's random but it doesn't show on the shops before bossfights

[sweet brook]

based

[tidal condor]

No

The game tells you how to play

[full mural]

no

[hushed cape]

No just go and figure it out

[full mural]

play completely blind

you won't regret it

[leaden whale]

BTW are Daedalus hammers pseudo-random? For some reason I always get exactly 2 by the time I reach ||Hades||

[hushed cape]

2 is the max

[leaden whale]

It feels like too much to be a coincidence

Okay, thanks

[sweet brook]

||it's a 50% chance of appearing in runs, and it's the same exact fight no matter what biome you fight him in. the earlier you fight him the harder he is because your build sucks more, but it's gonna give you more value so it's a trade off||

[hushed cape]

Well technically 3

[quiet marten]

ok

[sweet brook]

game will offer you hammers can only get a max of 2

there's a whole thing about it

[tidal condor]

Much like Hermes boons, you can find hammers in rooms twice

[leaden whale]

Playing blind is the best experience, I did it and was pleasantly surprised at every turn

[full mural]

2 is max! you get 1 from first to second area and you get a second hammer at the third area

[hushed cape]

3 if you buy the anvil

[leaden whale]

Oh, Hermes is also that way?

[sweet brook]

can get hammer in tart too

[tidal condor]

And much like Hermes boons, you can get a third in the shop

[sweet brook]

yes and no

[hushed cape]

Hermes is random

[sweet brook]

well you can get a max of 2 naturally, 3 if you buy in styx

same sorta deal as hammers

[full mural]

that is the 1st area

[sweet brook]

but you can get both hermes in tart

[sweet brook]

i misread lol

[tidal condor]

Hammer shows up on doors in tart Hermes doesn’t

[sweet brook]

or both in aspho

[full mural]

ah

[leaden whale]

So what does the court music stand actually do, just makes those songs play in the house of hades?

[tidal condor]

And if you get a hammer in tart you won’t see another until Elysium

[leaden whale]

Is there any other incentive I have to be spending diamonds on this?

[sweet brook]

just this

[tidal condor]

Lets you change the background music in the house to a certain track

[sweet brook]

resource sink for late game lol

[tidal condor]

You have to buy the tracks separately

For diamonds

[leaden whale]

yea i got the stand and found that out :c

[sweet brook]

not worth buying until you bought all contractor stuff that costs diamonds

[tidal condor]

But eventually you’ll have plenty of diamonds

[leaden whale]

Yeah, true, I'm not finding ||heat|| to be too bad at this point

[sweet brook]

for now lol

fun stuff tho

[leaden whale]

yeee

[sweet brook]

do love myself some ||heat||

esp when i throw a ||40 heat|| run at the end

[quiet marten]

i have a doubt

im at a room with 2 rewards, like 2 doors

i have no idea what each one means

[leaden whale]

Describe each symbol to us

[quiet marten]

one's a blue heart with red plus like thingy

[leaden whale]

That will give you +25 max HP (and +25 healed) at the end of the room you enter the door for

[quiet marten]

and another is a maroon like fruit with sunrays around it i think?

there's a slice of it

[leaden whale]

That's a pomegranate. They make your boons stronger

[quiet marten]

a fruit with its slice beside it

what are boons?

[sweet brook]

thingy from gods you pick up

[full mural]

the powers the gods give you

[leaden whale]

Keep playing and you'll see. Certain benefactors give you powers in the underworld

[sweet brook]

should've gotten one from athena

[full mural]

yea

[quiet marten]

oh the purple thing?

i picked dodge for that

[leaden whale]

Wouldve been yellow, no?

[sweet brook]

athena isn't purple but yeah lol

oh was it purple rarity

[hushed cape]

That’s the drunkard

[quiet marten]

yeah i guess yellow and purple

so shall i choose boon or heart?

[tidal condor]

Athena gives dodge chance now?

[sweet brook]

dodge is the dash

probably

[hushed cape]

He means dash

[quiet marten]

i just started the game

yeah spacebar to dodge

[tidal condor]

Have fun!

[quiet marten]

and deflect

[leaden whale]

Up to you, entirely. What works better for you? More health, or stronger athena power?

[tidal condor]

Take the health

[sweet brook]

might not be athena

[tidal condor]

First run is always Athena silly nanas

[leaden whale]

I'm assuming they only have 1 or 2 boons max

[quiet marten]

uh i guess health as im at 20/50 health now 😂

[sweet brook]

first run you get like 4 gods available to you

[leaden whale]

So a pom will upgrade their athena ability

[sweet brook]

athena, ares, artemis, and dio

iirc

[tidal condor]

Take the heart

[leaden whale]

everytime someone says dio

[full mural]

heart

lets you live longer

[tidal condor]

Absolutely heart

[sweet brook]

aphrodite too maybe? idk but not all of them for sure

[tidal condor]

Nope you were right first time

[leaden whale]

Do yall always take the heart compared to pomegranates or is this just what you rec to a first-timer

[sweet brook]

very nice

[leaden whale]

They seem kinda even to me

[tidal condor]

I always take a heart when the only thing to pom is divine dash

[sweet brook]

for a first timer, def the hp tbh

[leaden whale]

fair

[full mural]

I suggest doing stuff that you don't know what will happen to see what happens so that you can learn from it

[sweet brook]

also yeah pomming ddash is pointless

[tidal condor]

Divine dash doesn’t need Poms

20/50 after one room tho

Press space bar more

[full mural]

or dash

[tidal condor]

(That’s dash)

[quiet marten]

ok now i got new 2 doors

a bag with skull on it

and a purple cup like thing

[full mural]

try to avoid getting hit (||oh look, I'm sounding like hypnos!||)

bag is shop, cup is a god

both can be good

[tidal condor]

Take the cup

[vagrant fractal]

cup is good

[sweet brook]

ngl dont ask us for what to do if you want to experience the game to its fullest lol
just do whatever you want and have fun

[tidal condor]

Honestly just do whatever sounds good, there’s not a set in stone perfect way to play

[full mural]

yes

[tidal condor]

We can’t give you a walkthrough

[sweet brook]

for now

[full mural]

try things out

[quiet marten]

ohk i will choose god i guess

[leaden whale]

Uhhh I don't get the appeal of (only spoilering this bc we have a very new person in chat) ||Fated authority and Fated persuasion||. If it's random and not optional, doesn't that make it just as good as literal RNG in the first place?

[quiet marten]

its really confusing lol

idk what something does

[full mural]

it's fine if you die

[tidal condor]

Wat

[sweet brook]

you'll figure it out

can't figure it out if you dont play the game lol

[full mural]

because you can do it an infinite amount of time and you can grow stronger through various methods

[sweet brook]

there's limits

[leaden whale]

Why would I spend 500-1000+ darkness on this

[tidal condor]

It’s not like you’ll die if you choose wrong

Mwahaha

[tidal condor]

What else are you gonna spend darkness on?

[sweet brook]

because ||rerolling boons is very strong||

[leaden whale]

It just... randomizes a chamber reward.

[sweet brook]

the other side is better

[tidal condor]

Authority is bad tho

[leaden whale]

But it says it was random

[quiet marten]

i got god of wine

😳

[leaden whale]

If it's random, I can't choose when to roll it, and I lose the thing I chose, no?

[hushed cape]

Authority is the chamber one right?

[sweet brook]

yeah but you get different choices, which is what you'd want

[sweet brook]

you can choose when to reroll

[tidal condor]

You choose when to roll lmao

Bruh

[tidal condor]

Yes

[leaden whale]

Then the description is extremely poor

[sweet brook]

not really?

[full mural]

it can be useful if a god doesn't have a boon you need for your run so you can reroll to try to get the needed boon

[hushed cape]

It’s implied that you choose when to reroll

[full mural]

same thing for chamber rewards

[quiet marten]

guys this is confusing af

[leaden whale]

Right, I get that now that I understand I have the authority to roll on my own

[tidal condor]

It allows you to reroll a RANDOM door

As in

[hushed cape]

Just keep playing

[sweet brook]

Fated authority:

Each rank gives you 1 die, used to randomly alter the reward for the next chamber.
Fated persuasion:
Each rank gives you 1 die, used to randomly alter Boon and Well of Charon choices.
feels self explanatory to me tbh

[leaden whale]

So which is better, chamber or boon? Boon?

[quiet marten]

drunken flourish, trippy shot or premium vintage?

[tidal condor]

The door content was randomly picked

[sweet brook]

always boon

[tidal condor]

Boon

[sweet brook]

pick for yourself lol

[hushed cape]

Boo

[tidal condor]

Yes, those are your choices

[quiet marten]

alright i guess

[full mural]

try any of them out! all of them aren't bad

[quiet marten]

ill do premium vintage so that i dont die

[hushed cape]

Based

[tidal condor]

Oh man that was the absolute wrong choice! What were you thinking!!!

/j

[quiet marten]

i didnt pick it yet 😂

i knew i was gonna pick the dumbest one of all

[tidal condor]

You didn’t

I was making a joke because there’s no wrong choice

You’re gonna die

[full mural]

for this game, it's a good idea to try things for yourself instead of asking for help unless you have no idea what to do but for early game, just try stuff out and see what works

[tidal condor]

Probably very soon

[quiet marten]

ok

[full mural]

this isn't a bad thing

[tidal condor]

And then you’re gonna do it again

And die

And maybe not as soon

[full mural]

your supposed to die

[hushed cape]

To be honest the first boss will probably send you home

[full mural]

likely several times

[tidal condor]

My money is on him not making it to Meg this run but we’ll see

[full mural]

yea

[hushed cape]

Ah i remember my attempts of beating her

[full mural]

same

[tidal condor]

Doomstone gonna whack him

[leaden whale]

What do yall find to be the easiest ||heats||? Personally I've been going with ||Jury duty||

[tidal condor]

That’s an awful one lol

[leaden whale]

Weird, it seems not too bad to me

[sweet brook]

||that's not too bad rn, but later on when you stack more stuff on top it becomes a pain||

[tidal condor]

Ask us in #h1-discussion cuz spoiler tagging sucks

[hushed cape]

I go with the blue heart thing

[leaden whale]

Nope

[tidal condor]

Okay

[leaden whale]

I don't want to spoil stuff I haven't gotten to

By accidentally looking at something in that chat

I'm aware there's more of the game for me to see

[tidal condor]

True, we’re discussing the super secret extra final boss in there rn

So better not

[sweet brook]

||easiest heats would be em1 and td1||

[leaden whale]

are you.. messing with me? or is that a thing

[sweet brook]

||whatever else the heat guide said lmao||

[tidal condor]

You’ll find out… eventually

[sweet brook]

lmao

[leaden whale]

I mean, that in and of itself should have been spoilered if that were accurate.

[sweet brook]

it's not at all

you've seen them all

[full mural]

I find ||Extreme measures|| to be easy since I've gotten used to how the bosses work, other than ||EM3||, curse you ||theseus||

[leaden whale]

But surely ||escaping to persephone more times|| will yield more lore and some kind of more progression right?

Or is this really it?

[sweet brook]

if i spoiler an image link the image won't send right

[sweet brook]

yes

[full mural]

yep, more lore!

[leaden whale]

But no more gameplay aspects?

[tidal condor]

||Freest heat is Tight Deadline and Forced Overtime 1||

[leaden whale]

Am I playing the full version of the game at this point?

[sweet brook]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/990893795904204840/unknown.png||

[tidal condor]

||Middle management pretty easy too||

[sweet brook]

||heat guide, shouldn't be any spoilers here||

[leaden whale]

thank you

[sweet brook]

not mine btw

[tidal condor]

Essentially

[sweet brook]

||ridiculous hat's heat guide||

[tidal condor]

Plenty of story left

But none of it changes the core gameplay loop

[sweet brook]

technically yes, you've seen everything and can get everything, but a lot more story left

[hushed cape]

You have to go deeper

[tired canopy]

Does the|| Athena/Demeter || duo boon last for one fight after you lose all death defiances, or does it last forever?

[sweet brook]

||demeter|| is a spoiler

[twin knoll]

for real. im 55+ hours in and its surprising how much new dialogue and little side plots there are

[leaden whale]

omg I just discovered the beauty of cluster bombing yourself with the Daedalus upgrade to the gun's special