#h1-for-new-players

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stable reef
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yeah i used DD for my first ||32 heat|| on eris just for ||skelly statues||, but im thinking if its worth swapping over

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unless its really really ||high heat||

sweet brook
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for ||32|| sd or dd are both valid options, dd is you're comfortable with the enemies and not taking a lot of damage, sd if you're still struggling a bit

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what you can do with sd is crank ||lasting consequences|| to the max and before you leave each room activate sd so you get free healing

sweet brook
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various well items and patty can increase the amount of healing you get from sd as well

stable reef
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was thinking of ||FO2 and hard labour stacks||

sweet brook
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||fo2|| is an extremely good one to learn because once you get used to it it's a free ||9 heat|| so that's nice

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obv with some weapons you'll end up struggling a bit more, especially the slower hitting ones

stable reef
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hmm gotcha

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what do u personally prefer to run for slower hitting ones?

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i really want to avoid getting rnged by ||approval process|| and others

sweet brook
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well they're namely hidden aspects, spoiler the names btw, i like to use ||beowulf|| and ||rama||
the first one doesn't have many problems with ||fo2|| but the second one can be a bit more of a struggle if you dont get twin shot

stable reef
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casts ftw

stable reef
sweet brook
stable reef
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just realised theres a channel for this

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i

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oops

sweet brook
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lmao

stable reef
sweet brook
stable reef
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oh true

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thanks for the help!!

sweet brook
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np

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the guide above pretty decent one imo for ||heat||, obv there's substitutions you can use but it'll help you avoid some nasty ones

leaden whale
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@sweet brook

sweet brook
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hi

leaden whale
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what is the exclamation mark symbol on the door

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that has 3 different colour circles on each side

sweet brook
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the ! on the door is an npc room

leaden whale
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oh okay

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and also

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what if the door has a skull infront of it

sweet brook
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miniboss room

leaden whale
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which is better to take

sweet brook
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i generally always take the npc room

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free room, gives some rewards

leaden whale
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alright thanks ill go npc

sweet brook
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also since you're new, the npc's in the runs also advance various story plots

leaden whale
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the shields q seems so weak

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so little damage

sweet brook
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because it is

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dont use it

leaden whale
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Yeh I only use right click and left click with shield

sweet brook
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just use it if you want to snipe something across the room at 1 hp

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yeah the cast is pretty useful, attack is obv gonna be your main source of damage

leaden whale
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lmao yeh, I thought i was doing something wrong but guess it really is that weak

sweet brook
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dont forget to bull rush as well

leaden whale
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yeh I just spam left click hold

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do you use dash with shield?

sweet brook
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yeah

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dashes gives iframes

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so does the bull rush, but dashes are faster obv

leaden whale
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hm yeh i use my dashes aswell

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bruh I just beat megera and i only got hit twice with the shield

muted pivot
leaden whale
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its so nice

leaden whale
muted pivot
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no

sweet brook
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npc and midshop rooms don't show up again

sweet brook
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nice job

muted pivot
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also fountain rooms but you cant really tell when those exist lol

neat widget
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is there like any indication for a fountain room?

muted pivot
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no

neat widget
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damn

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if its a boon room its def not fountain?

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but darkness keys and gems are free game

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and hearts

muted pivot
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no, any reward can be a fountain room (except stuff like minibosses, shops, story rooms, etc)

neat widget
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oh wow

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guess i need to play more 🙏

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story rooms? like euridice and stuff?

sweet brook
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yes

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npc rooms

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same difference i guess lol

shut gyro
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What're the best aspects to invest in early on? I pumped like 3 levels into poseidon, but it feels too finicky to me in all honesty. Got another two in Chaos, and chiron feels like it isn't worth it unless it's high level

hasty flower
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Check pins

random copper
random copper
devout basalt
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hestia literally sucks at low levels

placid river
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is charged shot good?

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and what hammer and which boons should be paired with serrated point on achilles spear?

dusty vault
placid river
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yeah thought so

dusty vault
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for serrated probably arte works to take advantage of the dmg bonus?

placid river
dusty vault
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COD gaming dusa

placid river
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whats COD

dusty vault
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curse of drowning, the duo you mentioned

placid river
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is it good?

dusty vault
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it can work

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on achilles is fun cuz cast dmg + you can move directly to the enemy even if its far

proven pivot
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Chiron is actually really good once you get some blood in it btw, since I saw someone ask

finite ledge
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Chiron lvl 5 S-tier

proven pivot
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^

coral yoke
shut gyro
# placid river is charged shot good?

I got it with a hammer that makes you charge faster, and it was absolute cheese central. Spam casts, run away, punt anyone that comes too close away

placid river
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Yeah I've gotten that too on ||beowulf||, just not sure if there were better hammers

dusty vault
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on zeus shield exploding return is great too

shut gyro
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Chaos + stacking effect + more bounces hammer sounds like a nice combo

dusty vault
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special hammers dont affect chaos extra shields

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only main shield

shut gyro
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😩

placid river
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hey, I saw a boon called Icy flare from demeter, is that like a second cast from her? Because I've seen the turrets before, but this says "Your Cast damages foes around you and inflicts Chill." Is this a cast, or just something that supplements the cast?

muted pivot
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||youre playing beo||

placid river
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ah ok, thanks.

muted pivot
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||on beo, casts are replaced with flares||

sweet brook
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Isn't it also hera

topaz jasper
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sadly not

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hera literally just dumps a crystal at the end

sweet brook
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Oh that's dumb

topaz jasper
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it's probably good for cold embrace tbh

dusty vault
sweet brook
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Ah

vague brook
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if i have skelly's keepsake and stubborn defiance, and i die, do i use up skelly's keepsake or stubborn defiance?

dusty vault
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stubborn

vague brook
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k thanks

spiral imp
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Hi, i bought the game yesterday and got a bit of progress by now ||(beat Megaera, Hydra and even reach Theseus before dying like a noob)|| and i dropped a few Titan Blood and was wondering where can i use them?

proven roost
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Or upgrade them as well

spiral imp
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oh okay, and how can i unlock aspect of weapons?

sweet brook
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Unlock all weapons then go on a run

proven roost
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^^^ After that You should soon be able to interact with the weapon of choice. Once you choose it, click the button to choose it again.

sweet brook
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Then when you go pick up a weapon use the same interact button you used to pick it up and you'll be given options

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Yeah

spiral imp
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okay thanks! i unlocked only 3 of them by now

proven roost
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Youre doing awesome progress!! Good luck have fun!!

spiral imp
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thanks! ^^

tribal nest
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all of them are viable, for beginners the ones who give extra hp/extra life/extra resources are quite nice

sweet brook
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god keepsakes are the best for the first 2 biomes, after that, take defensive keepsakes

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use god keepsakes to force the duo/build you need and then after that use the defense

inner hound
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i officially finished the game

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happy asf

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now to grind to -

viscid notch
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And gl

inner hound
placid river
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whats the best keepsake for final boss?

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currently using acorn

dusty vault
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Keep acorn

slender plank
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|| I was doing really good in the run and had all my death defiances until Hades second phase 🤧 ||

placid river
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for some reason the ||second phase|| is easier for me lol

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especially before ||50%|| health, since the ||lasers|| can be avoided very easily and you can do a ton of damage

sweet brook
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that's pretty normal for a lot of people i think lol

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for both of you

topaz jasper
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first phase is generally harder, second phase has the potential to combo you to death if you slip up

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lasers and pots can end your career instantly

shut gyro
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I heard something about being able to hug the boss to get past lasers and do a ton of damage. Is that still a thing?

sweet brook
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yes

surreal apex
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hi! there are some boons that i just cant seem to get and i cant work out why. when i look at them in the menu it says they have no particular requirements so not sure what im doing wrong. plz help ❤️

viscid notch
surreal apex
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rip tide from Poseidon

viscid notch
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Rip tide? You mean Rip current?

topaz jasper
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that's a pretty rare boon since it has a non core prerequisite

surreal apex
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yea i think so

viscid notch
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It requires his call, do you have that?

topaz jasper
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yeah nothing more you can do other than take his call and roll on subsequent poseidons

surreal apex
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oooh okay ty

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weird that you have to have his call but it doesnt say that in the requirements

topaz jasper
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huh does it not

surreal apex
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i havent played in a few days but im 90% i checked and it didnt say.

topaz jasper
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wack

surreal apex
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but the same thing happened to me with Proud bearing from Athena, it said no prerequisites in the menu but reddit said i needed her call and i did

viscid notch
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Well that’s wrong lol

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You just need any Call for Proud Bearing

surreal apex
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but for rip current you need Poseidon's call or just any call?

viscid notch
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Poseidon’s specifically

spiral imp
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i just lost on final boss :(

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i lost two death defiance bc of those mfs poison rats

austere elbow
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the way you know when to evade meg's attacks is surprisingly subtle

placid river
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Which builds make stygian soul worth it? (I know you have to get at least one extra cast from chaos)

viscid notch
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With other builds you see it being used because it’s slightly better Hermes odds than Infernal

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Not because it’s very relevant or anything

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Like on Hestia

muted pivot
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yeah, takes stygian soul removes flurry cast from hermes pool so you have better odds of getting good stuff

topaz jasper
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specifically both flurry and quick reload

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swapping them for auto reload

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then one very subtle difference is that for most builds, stygian hermes legendary > infernal legendary

placid river
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I'll maybe try a meme beam run with achilles today

leaden whale
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Hi

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What is an encounter exactly? Like obviously the chamber would be the whole room, so I'm assuming encounter doesn't also mean the whole room

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Is it a per target thing or is it the waves when enemies spawn

topaz jasper
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1 encounter = 1 chamber with enemies in it

leaden whale
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Ah okay ty

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Also, I've been having a hard time with the poison rats at the end specifically on account of the poison, how do I deal with that?

topaz jasper
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they're strictly melee so if you can stay out of range you don't have to run the risk of getting poisoned

leaden whale
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I know about the fountain that cures it but even fighting next to the fountain the poison is still enough to burn all 3 of my res

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So casting mostly

shut gyro
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What weapon are you using?

topaz jasper
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yeah or non sword/fists weapons in general

leaden whale
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I've mostly been using the sword and the fists

topaz jasper
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lol oops

leaden whale
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:)

shut gyro
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Depending on the aspect and boons I've done different stuff

leaden whale
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They're fun

shut gyro
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Poseidon sword ez

leaden whale
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BTW how do I unlock the last aspects?

shut gyro
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tbh for fists I just slapped on artemis cast

topaz jasper
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one trick is to use patroclus's keepsake in styx, it hard counters poison

shut gyro
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There's stuff for them on the wiki, idk if it's spoilers

topaz jasper
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I'd recommend trying it out

placid river
leaden whale
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Gotcha

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I still have 4 nectars I haven't met patroclus yet

shut gyro
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How early on are you

leaden whale
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Well I haven't made it past cereberus yes but I've been there like 4 times

placid river
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spoiler ||heat||

shut gyro
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🧠

muted pivot
upbeat spire
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Patroclus is a chad because he gives you a beef jerky for the ||elysium champions||

muted pivot
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not beef jerky, cyclops jerky

upbeat spire
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you get the idea

muted pivot
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very different texture, a bit like pork

upbeat spire
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🙄

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Meat is meat

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🤓

leaden whale
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So, I beat hades for the first time what's this screen at the end with all my boons?

muted pivot
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its a victory screen

leaden whale
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I'm just standing around now there's no exit lol

muted pivot
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yes there is

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at the top

leaden whale
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Found it lol I'm blind

torpid sparrow
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How many runs until the codex index appears at the contractor. I have the fated list of prophecies and still don't see it.

vivid island
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Hey

placid river
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bruh

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just lost a run on final boss because my brother came in : (

wise hornet
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i did my first max tight deadline and i lost cause of 5 sack broo

placid river
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Doesnt styx alone make hades very annoying to speedrun?

dusty vault
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Yup

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Tho is like a 54% for 2 sack iirc

vivid dagger
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hi guys quick question

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how to unlock the legendary weapons?/

viscid notch
vivid dagger
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thanks

viscid notch
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But yes

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Styx is a pain

placid river
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just did 16 ||heat||

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surprisingly easy tbh

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had 3 dd's left and 250 health or something

lime onyx
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Heyo, i have a question. I'm new here and in the game and i recently got this screen and idk if i'm doing smthin wrong or if it's a bug. Can anyone help me? ^^'
https://imgur.com/a/Px4Y7TA

dusty vault
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Yeah def a bug also what with the text at the bottom

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You arent using mods as a note?

lime onyx
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no i'm not

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installed the game a day ago and just played

dusty vault
lime onyx
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alrighty, will do

dusty vault
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Also should remove the embed for the pic as the ||heat gauge is a spoiler in this channel||

lime onyx
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oh, ty

timber quarry
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so... how do you farm titan blood? :I

proven pivot
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Contractor has it sometimes, and much later in the game you unlock another way.

timber quarry
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I've only been playing for 2 days

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can't seem to beat ||hades|| :I

proven pivot
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Yeah, the game tough

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If you've made it to the final boss you're almost to the blood farm, and spoil the final boss's name if you talk about them by putting || on either side

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Do you have all the weapons unlocked?

timber quarry
proven pivot
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Shield makes final boss easier, cause you can block the attacks. Like literally all of them I think

timber quarry
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I tried with shield but I just lose too much HP when trying to damage

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I use sword and pray I get the cursed slash hammer upgrade

proven pivot
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That's a bit of a trap honestly

timber quarry
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it works a lot better than anything else I tried

proven pivot
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It seems really good, but it doesn't work with dash strikes which is the ideal way to sword. Non attacking dashes make you invincible but attacking removes that btw. A lot of people don't realize so I figured I'd mention it

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If you have Athena's keepsake, use it. She makes life way easier and consistently getting at least one of her boons helps a ton

timber quarry
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well ye I have her call and dash

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and then artemis attack and special with hunters mark

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sadly no cursed slash this run so far

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at third boss

sweet brook
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which sword are you using?

timber quarry
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the crit one

sweet brook
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ah that's good

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if you plan on using athena and artemis in your build, try and get deadly reversal

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i believe you need athena's atk or special and then one of artemis' core boons

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and then the dash is just supplementary

timber quarry
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I can try to get athena attack with artemis dash

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does that give block to ur dash attack?

sweet brook
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only right in front of you

proven pivot
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I'd go with Athena attack and dash myself

sweet brook
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but their duo is better if you have athena's dash

timber quarry
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what does it do

sweet brook
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because when you reflect your crit chance increases by like 40% or something

proven pivot
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^

dusty vault
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+20%

proven pivot
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^

sweet brook
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yeah that makes more sense lmao

timber quarry
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also pardon me I gotta die on third boss rq Cx

sweet brook
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have fun

proven pivot
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You can deflect melee attacks btw. It doesn't make much sense but it does work iirc

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Also: if you aren't targeting the bull first, you should be

timber quarry
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I didn't die

sweet brook
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very cool

proven pivot
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Nice!

timber quarry
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5hp left

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this run might be a clear, not sure

sweet brook
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how many dd's left?

timber quarry
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all

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  • skelly
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so 4

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but now the 4th area... which tends to damage a lot

sweet brook
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oh yeah that can be rough

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just keep in mind where the purging pools are

timber quarry
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I do have 2 special hammer upgrades

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the dash and the double hit

sweet brook
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oof dash nova kinda funky

timber quarry
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I rly like it

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sadly it doesn't Iframe

sweet brook
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the issue with dash nova according to others here is that despite being the first weapon you're given, sword is one of the most precise weapons in the game
melee weapons are inherently more dangerous, and the special launching you across the room kinda messes up a lot of set up and precision needed
considering the standard combo of sword is special-dash strike-dash strike, dash nova is gonna be sending you all over the place

timber quarry
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welp time to fight ||Hades||

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my damage combo rn is q q q q q XD nah it's q aa

topaz jasper
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basically with sword you dstrike into enemies, dnova is just gonna launch you somewhere else after that and you lose damage

timber quarry
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and dash strike combo when I need to be careful

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it's just that my q gets me out of an aoe way faster than a dash

sweet brook
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dashes make you immune to the aoe

viscid notch
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It shouldn't be that way

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Your dashes are always the safest way to avoid any attack

topaz jasper
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unless you're a shield gamer

viscid notch
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Atleast Shield gamers have something reliable instead of the Dash

devout basalt
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i think dnova would be somewhat more decent if it didnt perform the special animation after the dash

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so it doesnt make your special take longer 😐

topaz jasper
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or give us snap nova again

devout basalt
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kid named flurry nova:

topaz jasper
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kid named nova:

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anyways does dnova really increase frame data because that's scuffed as hell

devout basalt
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what i meant is that you have to add the time from the special animation and the dash itself so youre just more vulnerable

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the animation on its own is the same

topaz jasper
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I'm confused

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does the special come out at the same time or not

devout basalt
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dash nova frame data is the same as pressing q immediately after a dash im pretty sure

topaz jasper
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hm interesting

timber quarry
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did it

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cleared

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:D

dusty vault
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Gaming

timber quarry
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q sword spam OP

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can I send my build if I spoiler it?

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or is that not allowed

topaz jasper
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corngrats!

dusty vault
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No spoiler marks there

blazing lily
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im 8 hours in and struggling to get anywhere unless i luck out with a build or two. Any tips?

coral yoke
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By gifting nectar to gods you can get their keepsakes which will help you control your build

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There's also a practice element, the game is a roguelike, you will die a lot

blazing lily
dusty vault
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Wait you havent gifted mectar to anyone?

blazing lily
dusty vault
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Ah lol

stuck hare
blazing lily
uneven sierra
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i just bought it. first time playing. i'm prepared to die a lot (°-°)/

sweet brook
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that's the spirit

coral yoke
void remnant
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So uhh

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I bought the game yesterday and i'm really a fan of roguelikes

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But

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I have 3 deaths in a row in same place, that is being chamber 22

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The one with ultimate gorgon and, how is that called? A stomper?

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The stomper has honestly. A little unfair range

proven pivot
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That's a mini boss room, and you've gotten really unlucky to run into it 3 times in a row, oftentimes you can get through the entire area without a mini boss, and there's two other potential mini bosses in that region

void remnant
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Wait its not guaranteed?

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Also is it skill issue or is it supposed to be really hard?

proven pivot
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It's not guaranteed, and even if it shows up, sometimes you'll get a choice of rooms and can avoid it through the other door. It has a specific symbol I don't remember off the top of my head

coral yoke
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Power couple can be rough but they get easier with time

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The other 2 minibosses possible are worse, imo

proven pivot
coral yoke
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Barge of death my behated

proven pivot
coral yoke
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Well barge isn't really hard ig it's just really slow

proven pivot
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Yeah that

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It's pretty simple, it just takes a long time lmao

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The only advice I can really give for power couple is to try to focus down the gorgon and try to dash strike around it so it has to turn more

void remnant
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wait i just unlocked some godly power

proven pivot
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Every room has icons, but mini bosses have a specific one. And if you're only getting one door that's even more unlucky

proven pivot
void remnant
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no no

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godly power

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summon

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call

proven pivot
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Oh

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Calls! Yeah those help depending on what you get

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Starting with Athena's keepsake can also help

void remnant
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Also how does reflecting works

proven pivot
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Basically, if the reflect effect hits an attack, it doesn't damage you. Projectiles get launched but melee attacks also get reflected. I'm honestly not sure on the specifics of it beyond that. Assuming you ARE talking about Athena's thing

void remnant
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Can a shield reflect by default

proven pivot
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The weapon? No, but if you hold attack it blocks, which is pretty much the same.

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Well, the same for avoiding damage

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It doesn't reflect damage, just removes it, but the point is you don't take any damage if it blocks it

void remnant
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so invincibility?

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From one side

proven pivot
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Yes

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Dashing also makes you invincible regardless of weapon, but attacking while dashing removes that

viscid notch
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Some attacks have a big enough radius to break through blocks even if you’re facing in the direction of the attack

proven pivot
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Oh yeah. It's just like only a couple

viscid notch
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But they’re niche and you’ll notice them at much higher level of play for the most part so not something to worry about, Block is reliable enough

proven pivot
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^

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Yeah, like I've beaten the game something like a hundred times and I've never noticed any of them

void remnant
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So what is a good weapon to use?

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I just use spear because great range is always great

proven pivot
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They're all good if you enjoy them, but shield is probably the easiest

void remnant
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I noticed that the bow deals really insane damage but is pretty hard to use

proven pivot
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Very true

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Timing it's power shots is annoying but if you're good at it it's also very good

shut gyro
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Use chiron ez

void remnant
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wait

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You pronounce hades like Ha Dees???

sand leaf
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when i finish game can i still go escape like doing escape forever

void remnant
placid river
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WHAT THE HELL

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I just tried 32 ||heat||

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died at elysium

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||nd now there are some "themes" at the house contractor||

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and they're expensive as hell

proven roost
placid river
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ah ok

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also

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JUST BEAT MY RECORD

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14 minute zeus shield run

void remnant
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Cast is rarely useful right?

dusty vault
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Is really useful

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Either just for boiling blood on any tough mob or boss, some nice extra dmg/opens duo but if you arent doing a cast build is not needed to focus on it that much

spiral imp
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Is there a good strat to beat Theseus and Asterius easily?

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A good numbers of run end up because of this bosses

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or lose like at best 2death defiance on them

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and at worth i lose my run at them

blazing lily
placid river
# blazing lily From my limited experience; focus minotaur and keep moving around the pillars to...

Yeah do this. Normally what I do is avoid theseus as much as possible. When hes inside the center of the arena, go to the outer part of the arena, around the pillars (while having asterius chase you and doing damage to him). If he's in the outer part of the arena, go to the other side of the arena or in the center. Kill Asterius first!!! This is very important, dont try doing damage to theseus, only asterius.

spiral imp
void remnant
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theseus?

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The dude that mino was talking about?

spiral imp
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yea

blazing lily
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Now how do i best fight ||Hades?||

void remnant
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I killed minotaur and his friend killed me

frosty girder
# blazing lily Now how do i best fight ||Hades?||

||Destroy the skulls early, and focus down the adds when he spawns them. There is a blind spot next to hades when he does his laser thing. Apart from that it is just learning timing mostly, for me at least.||

blazing lily
sweet brook
dark marten
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||You could just go at the opposite map since the wave attack doesn't nearly cover the entire map||

sweet brook
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or dash through

viscid notch
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Dashing through is effortless

random copper
# blazing lily Now how do i best fight ||Hades?||

||dash through big spin, dash away from big thrust, break cast skulls as soon as possible, if they shatter, dash through the wave
when hades disappears, all status curses are cleansed from him and must be reapplied
in the second stage, destroy the pots by dashing through them (f you have such a boon). the blind spot for the 360 laser is hard to find, so I don't recommend that. athena call is a good counter, as you can keep on dishing damage at the boss. with the triple beam, you can move behind hades and get extra backstab damage in that way
if he summons voidstones, DESTROY THEM IMMEDIATELY||

random copper
shut gyro
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Any call with invulnerability or big damage helps a lot

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I had a funny run where I had artemis on call and cast both

dusty vault
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All calls have invulnerability when activated as an aside

shut gyro
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Interesting

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I more so mean the ones that are specifically built around that

random copper
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artemis call is meh

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if i have good dps i tend to take athena

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or otherwise maybe poseidon or demeter

shut gyro
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Demeter's seems kinda eh

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But the full invulnerability ones are the ones I use most yeah

blazing lily
reef mauve
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What is the nectar from Theseus and the minotraur for? Like what can I do with it

cobalt river
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For later, as far as I remember

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Want me to tell you, though?

reef mauve
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Sure

cobalt river
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You're gonna need quite a few of them, as far as I remember

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So, uh, I just got back into the game, and I just bought the shield, is there a certain boon I should go for? Or is the shield just generally useless? I don't remember it being a whole lot fun? 🤔

reef mauve
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I like the zeus one

cobalt river
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Zeus attack?

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It's in terms of boons I'm asking

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Haven't unlocked aspects yet

cobalt river
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Okay. So, any recommended boon for basic shield?

topaz jasper
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aphrodite attack

cobalt river
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Ooh, don't have her... thing yet. Idk what they're called either, lol

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I think I have... Ares, Poseidon, Zeus, and Artemis

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Only done about 9 trips so far :I

topaz jasper
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artemis attack is good too

cobalt river
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So, if possibly try to focus on dash-attack?

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And then perhaps Athena dash or Zeus Dash for either defensive or dps 🤔

topaz jasper
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yeah dash attack and bull rush

cobalt river
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I'm thinking

topaz jasper
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those are good yeah

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if the hammer charged shot shows up, take it instantly

cobalt river
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Hmm, I'll try to keep that in mind

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Thanks for the tips

cobalt river
sweet brook
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artemis attack i think

cobalt river
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Okay. Does kinda seem like the dash-attack doesn't include crit 🤔

sweet brook
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i personally dont really prioritize dashes in builds

cobalt river
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Just has +70% dmg, I think

sweet brook
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yes

cobalt river
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Still, +70% is quite a bit compared to +20%, no?

sweet brook
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true, but i think artemis attack opens up more duos than the dash

cobalt river
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Ahh, might be a bit early for me to go for duos atm. Just trying to get as far as I can without DD atm

sweet brook
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you can get duos as early as run 1

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but fair enough

cobalt river
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Haven't even gotten all the weapons/mirror effects :3

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I don't even think my book can look for what I need yet?

sweet brook
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could pull up the wiki lol

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fresh file speedruns get merciful end so it's definitely possibly for you to get a duo

cobalt river
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Well, kinda just used to use the book, back when I played

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Merficul end? I don't know most of the names in the game x)

sweet brook
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athena ares duo
point being, it's not "early" in the game for you to not get a duo

cobalt river
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Dang it... Now that I have crit attack, there's no reason for me to skip... the black hole thing in the floor, lol

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Forgot their name x)

sweet brook
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chaos

carmine vault
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how I survived up to the boss battle?! cause I seem to either play too caution or too aggressive. I can make it to the first boss but my wins are like 7-2!

cobalt river
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Riight, Chaos

sweet brook
cobalt river
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Well, yeah, just gotta practice

sweet brook
# cobalt river Riight, Chaos

with shield look for attack or dash attack damage ideally
if you cant get either of those just get something that doesn't harm your playing too much

cobalt river
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Pretty much all there is to it. Certain boon combos can make the game easier, though

carmine vault
sweet brook
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you said the farthest you've gone was the final boss?

carmine vault
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the first boss

sweet brook
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ah

cobalt river
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24 runs and the first boss?

sweet brook
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i misinterpreted your message lol

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what weapon are you using?

carmine vault
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I was able to beat her 2 times but they just cant anymore

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inbetween many loss runs that is

sweet brook
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can you send a screenshot of your mirror and tell us what weapon you're using?

carmine vault
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tbh Im sure on the laptop im using😄

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but I have been using the bow and trident in her fights. I wish there was the ability to change out weapons before a boss fight

cobalt river
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You're gonna need a mod for something like that.

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Have you tried the sword? Seems pretty decent to me

carmine vault
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the 2 times I was able to win was when I had explosive battle from the hammer

cobalt river
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Heck, the shield + crit attack seems nice atm

sweet brook
#

bow is pretty good imo but harder to use

coral yoke
#

U just need to get a little more used to the boss's cues

sweet brook
cobalt river
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I'd only use bow of chiron, or whatever it was called

cobalt river
sweet brook
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ah rip

carmine vault
cobalt river
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Charged flight, Minotaur rush, or Pulverrizing blow from hammer? (shield)

sweet brook
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pulverizing blow

cobalt river
sweet brook
#

what

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wait

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minotaur rush, that makes the bull rush charge faster right

cobalt river
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No, makes it deal more dmg

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Blow makes me hit twice, but no knock-back

sweet brook
#

yeah pulverizing blow then

cobalt river
#

But with the crit, might be nice as well

sweet brook
#

what other gods have you found so far or are you still in tart

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actually those 2 points are a bit unrelated lmao

cobalt river
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Me? Still in Tartarus. Just began the run, and I'm chatting here between every floor, lol

sweet brook
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oh lmao

cobalt river
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Hmm, should I try and bet on Ares?

sweet brook
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tbh i dont think ares is great for shield

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ares on the special is pretty decent though

cobalt river
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Not even his special? For a bit of bonus dmg?

dusty vault
sweet brook
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ah i see

sweet brook
cobalt river
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Hmm, yeah, kinda see the point there. Which one should I try and aim for, if I don't stumble into Aphrodite? (Or however her name was spelled)

sweet brook
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zeus is solid

dusty vault
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Is this default shield?

sweet brook
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wait ares can give you hunting blades huh

sweet brook
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with arty atk

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because no aphrodite keepsake

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you could take ares and take his cast and get hunting blades for an easy win lmao

cobalt river
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Yes, default shield. Only just got back to the game. And I didn't really use the shield back then, so I'm not quite sure what to go for

sweet brook
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with shield you normally get aphrodite atk, zeus something, get smoldering air, then win lmao

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oh and charged shot

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since you have arty atk and ares is being offered, you can just get hunting blades which is an easy win but will take a bit of time

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fyi hunting blades makes ares' cast home into enemies rather than just go into nowhere

cobalt river
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Does the hammer have an attack boost against armor? Would fit nicely with my double attack and crit attack, lol

sweet brook
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i'm pretty sure there's a certain hammer that'll make you deal more damage to armor but with what you have rn i dont think so

cobalt river
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Aw, could be fun to get those darn shields shredded, lol

sweet brook
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the breaching rush hammer will make your bull rush do 400% more to armored units

cobalt river
#

Well, did some bad mistakes, so almost lost against the boss. So, should I just switch to Zeus token, or whatever it's called?

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Ohh, keepsake

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Didn't find Aphrodite :I

sweet brook
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nah i'd stick with arty

cobalt river
#

Hmm, why?

sweet brook
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zeus only works on shield because of aphrodite/arty

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you want to start with an attack ideally, zeus is more of a supporting god

cobalt river
#

Okay.
Guess I'll just use Nyx's keepsake, then

sweet brook
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what does hers do lmao

dusty vault
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They already have arty attack

sweet brook
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wait almost lost

cobalt river
#

Atm, +10% dmg on foes from behind

sweet brook
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i didn't read the almost part

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yeah use zeus

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my bad

cobalt river
#

But, wasn't Zeus useless?

sweet brook
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i thought you had lost so you were starting over lol

cobalt river
#

Ahh

sweet brook
#

zeus is bad to start with, but you're at the second biome so zeus is fine

cobalt river
#

Zeus special, dash, or cast?

sweet brook
#

probably special

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although tbh any of them are fine

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maybe except dash but idk

cobalt river
#

Okay

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Well, I found Aprhodite 🤷

sweet brook
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rip no nectar

cobalt river
#

I did get one the moment I said I didn't have any, lol

sweet brook
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oh nice

cobalt river
#

Flourish, Dash, or Lament?

sweet brook
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what does lament do lmao

cobalt river
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When enemies dies they dmg enemies nearby, it seems

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And inflict weak

sweet brook
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i think dash

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and hopefully the arty-aphro duo boon pops up
you deal more crit damage to enemies with weak so i think that'll be an easy way to inflict weak

cobalt river
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Oh, I see. Well, that's only if I do get the duo. Can't even guarantee I'll survive the second boss, lol

sweet brook
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lmao rip

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at least you can start with aphrodite now

cobalt river
#

Yep

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And Zeus helps, why exactly?

sweet brook
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smoldering air duo

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with aphrodite

cobalt river
#

Ah, Idk how that works

sweet brook
#

your call caps at 25% but you charge 1 percent every idk 1/4 second or something

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calls give iframes briefly when used and depending what your call is you can do a ton of damage

muted pivot
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its 1% every second

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so you can do a small call once every 5 seconds

sweet brook
#

zeus boons also support one another extremely well so if you happen to see zeus a lot it'll ramp up your damage

cobalt river
#

Uh, wasn't I supposed to go for duo, and not call? 🙃

sweet brook
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well it's both

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zeus call and zeus duo ideally

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if you dont get the duo it's fine but it's just something that'll bring up the damage by a lot

cobalt river
#

Probably not gonna aim for calls atm

sweet brook
#

zeus call kinda good tho

coral yoke
#

Isn't smair main thing billowing and swind

sweet brook
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i forgot those existed lol

coral yoke
#

Zeus call pretty good on top of that though

sweet brook
#

but even without that yeah smair zeus call is just good dps

blissful agate
#

As someone who hasn't beaten Hades before, what are some boons i should go after? my main necessity is Athena dash

muted pivot
sweet brook
muted pivot
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damage from dio/zeus call or smth can be really good

blissful agate
cobalt river
#

Wooh, second boss killed. So stupidly easy, it's almost like it just stands there waiting to getting beaten, lol.
So, was it Aphrodite keepsake in hopes of duo?

sweet brook
# blissful agate what is that?

relatively high rng build that can have massive dps for melee weapons
ME duo is whenever an enemy with doom inflicted gets hit by something that can deflect, the doom procs instantly instead after 1/1.5 seconds

coral yoke
coral yoke
#

Especially cause billowing is also zeus

blissful agate
sweet brook
#

ares atk/special and athena atk/special in order to be offered the duo
however, it's generally ares atk with athena special, pray to find duo and athena dash

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there's a few other ares supporting boons that make it really strong

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impending doom is a big one

coral yoke
#

Impending doom mainly

sweet brook
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yeah

coral yoke
#

Dire less so

sweet brook
#

dire misfortune is alright but hey it's extra damage so why not

muted pivot
coral yoke
#

Just run ME curse of longing and spam your athena thing smh

blissful agate
#

and this would work well with fists, right?

sweet brook
#

yes

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fists would be the best weapon for it

coral yoke
#

Me works well on every melee weapon though

sweet brook
#

yeah

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but i think it works best on fists

coral yoke
#

Demeter gives you the most to fall back on if you don't get the duo ig

blissful agate
#

looks like that build is perfect for me then.

coral yoke
sweet brook
#

i've heard of it but the concept just sounds wack in general

sweet brook
blissful agate
sweet brook
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nice

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there are other builds that dont rely on as much rng to be good but they dont use divine dash

coral yoke
#

It's a meme but its pretty strong for a meme

sweet brook
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oh the damage boost affects doom huh

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yeah that's a strong meme

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if you get spread fire it's basically a melee weapon i guess lmao

cobalt river
#

I hate just about everything from the third zone.

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Especially that I just died to a stupid trap because of Aphrodite dash, because I was looking if I had a Nectar to give to Chaos .-.

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But didn't get duo

sweet brook
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lmfao rip

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tbh you could just take chaos anyways and worry about the nectar later

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unless you were too low on hp

cobalt river
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Apparently I had low enough hp to die from a trap

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Noticed the sound too late, though

sweet brook
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rip

cobalt river
#

But still, considering I'm not using DDs, doing alright, I suppose

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That run, all my upgrades were +50 hp and +30 obols from the mirror

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And the extra dash, of course

sweet brook
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you should get those dds lol

dusty vault
#

Isnt the first dd like only 50 darkness?

sweet brook
#

i think so lol

cobalt river
#

Yep. Just not buying it yet, lol

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I think I'm just gonna get obols maxed, then the healing from darkness, then dmg from behind.. Was there something else? 🤔

sweet brook
#

dd's lmao

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dd's are like one of the most important mirror upgrades lol

cobalt river
#

Saving that for later xP

sweet brook
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why

cobalt river
#

Doing alright so far, no?

sweet brook
#

i mean yeah but dd's will get you much farther

cobalt river
#

I suppose. But might as well practice a bit more before I get "crotches", or so to speak... Or was that the wrong word? 🤔

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Don't remember it

sweet brook
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i saw you prioritized the hp because that's maxed, dd's basically give you a permanent 50% more hp each run

dusty vault
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Calling dds a crutch is a bit bouldy

cobalt river
#

Just bought the spear... not quite feeling it, though. Might just go with sword, though

sweet brook
#

dd's aren't a crutch, it's just more hp

dusty vault
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Tho i called divine dash a crutch at some point so im not the best one to speak

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Also yeah dds are a resource

cobalt river
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I suppose they aren't. Still, got no darkness x)

dusty vault
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I've used them on purpose to enter chaos gates

sweet brook
#

i mean i think there's more stance behind calling ddash a crutch than calling dd's a crutch

cobalt river
#

I'd say extra dash just increases survivability

sweet brook
#

ddash forces you to start athena every run (or rely on it too much), dd's dont really change your playstyle except maybe more aggressive but that's just because you have more hp

cobalt river
#

... Why?

sweet brook
cobalt river
#

I was talking about extra dash, I used to take divine dash for some extra protection, though

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But, uh, spear or sword? Kinda leaning towards sword, but any reason to use spear?

dusty vault
#

Personal preference mainly

sweet brook
# cobalt river ... Why?

well relying on ddash for survivability isn't a bad thing, it's just that sometimes people become so reliant on it that it impedes their build making at times

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i would know because i was one of them

cobalt river
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Me too, lol

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Only picked divine dash once, though, since I returned

sweet brook
#

most people probably are/have tbh

cobalt river
#

Was the first run I did x)

dusty vault
#

There isnt denying is good anyways

sweet brook
#

it is good yeah

dusty vault
#

And as much we meme the divine dash copypasta is kinda true bouldy

cobalt river
#

Kinda like Zeus dash + speedy weps, though

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Ooh, isn't Zeus + Posidon duo decent?

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Have both of those keepsakes

sweet brook
#

the concept is good, i just dont know what weapons can utilize that

cobalt river
#

Well, bow with chiron, I suppose. But right now I don't have that

dusty vault
#

Is a nice extra but not really you fish for it i think

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Oh yeah sea storm chiron is legit

#

Forgot tha

sweet brook
#

oh does the zeus internal cooldown not apply to that

dusty vault
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It does

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But you also have pos %

sweet brook
#

oh true

dusty vault
#

Which is quite nice

sweet brook
#

2nd highest right

dusty vault
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cobalt river
#

Still, you can get a decent amount of shots off

sweet brook
#

i guess throwing in an extra 2 or 3 lightning bolts in there doesn't hurt lol

cobalt river
#

I just kinda liked the chiron effect, seemed like a lazy aspect, lol

sweet brook
#

i do not enjoy chiron although it is pretty good lol

cobalt river
#

Just attack once, and stand in the background and spam special

sweet brook
#

well the target disappears after a bit

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if you spam specials it only goes through 3 times

cobalt river
#

Yeah, but can usually get off 3 shots, no?

sweet brook
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unless you have swift flourish then you can get 4

cobalt river
#

Special speed and whatever boons that increases the dmg just helps x)

sweet brook
#

yeah

#

but no splash damage kinda sucks lmao

dusty vault
#

Just slap tidal dash/pos cast and call it a day

sweet brook
#

if only zeus special worked on chiron

dusty vault
#

Add beaver if needed

cobalt river
#

Would only be decent for AoE, no?

#

Kinda useless at bosses, no?

dusty vault
#

Zeus special or tidal/flood shot?

cobalt river
#

Zeus special

sweet brook
#

it's useless because of the internal cooldown lol

cobalt river
#

Meant for the picture you sent, lol

sweet brook
#

against bosses tho it gives you an extra 30 (common) damage per arrow

#

8 arrows, 240 damage common

cobalt river
#

Okay

sweet brook
#

not terrible

dusty vault
#

Then add double strike/your random zeus support boon

sweet brook
#

but there's also the other zeus boons like jolted

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and yeah

#

and if you happen to get splitting then lighting go brrrr

cobalt river
#

Eh, too bad I can't get Chiron yet

#

Not even close in terms of titan blood, lol

sweet brook
#

isn't it just 2

cobalt river
#

Only have 2 x)

#

Need to upgrade it, lol

sweet brook
#

well i guess it's not great at level 1 yeah

#

just get relentless volley chamber 1 lol

cobalt river
#

If it's lvl 1, then I'm basically forced to go for the hammer, or it'd kinda ruin the run

sweet brook
#

yeah lmao

cobalt river
#

Considering going with spear. Should I just get Zeus attack and hope I get some decent boons on top of that?

sweet brook
#

tbh idk any spear builds that dont involve using hunting blades with achilles aspect lol

#

spears are very hammer reliant

cobalt river
#

And when will I be able to look through boons with the book? :I

sweet brook
#

not sure when that happens

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i think you're given it by achilles?

#

either that or contract table

cobalt river
#

I have the book, but I can't look at boons with it yet

sweet brook
#

contract table then

cobalt river
#

Oooh, might be a lucky run

#

Just picked Artemis keepsake, just figured I'd get attack crit, and then I get attack speed boost from the hammer :D

sweet brook
#

flurry jab?

#

that's the one hammer the spear needs lmfao

cobalt river
#

Might be the one. Can't spin, though

#

Fair enough, imo

dusty vault
#

flurry jab my beloved

cobalt river
#

Ooh, +37% attack crit from Artemis. Now I just gotta get attack boost from Chaos 🤣

#

I'm like, 3 rooms into the run

gray haven
cobalt river
#

Deadly strike? 🤔

#

Oh, meant hunter's mark 😅

cobalt river
#

Hmm... First time at the third boss since I've returned. Think I'm gonna beat it with 133 hp? 😅

#

I beat the third boss with 2 hp left 🤣

cobalt river
#

Hmm... Well, didn't really expect to win against the final boss, but I don't really understand why I died either 🤔

devout basalt
#

You got hit 😃👍

cobalt river
#

Yeah, I get that... But I'm pretty sure I dashed through, it, though 🤨

#

I guess I might have dashed too early 🤔

#

Dash-attack also decreased i-frames, no? 🤔

dusty vault
#

they stop the iframes as soon you do a dash strike

cobalt river
#

I see. Might also have been a dash strike. I tend to just do those

shut gyro
#

It'd probably be super busted if you could just spam dashstrikes while also having full i frames tbf

cobalt river
#

Probably, but also a bit hard to getting used to not doing it, on top of all the stuff you have to look out for s_s

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Quite a bit can happen on Hades screen

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But still, did pretty well considering I didn't have any DDs x)

#

Got to the final boss

shut gyro
#

Yeah, but that tends to happen in any high-speed pve game

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Especially with ones that can be bullet-hell-y

cobalt river
#

Also, I'm probably not as fast as I used to :I

shut gyro
#

In what sense

cobalt river
#

Well, my brain just feels foggy AF, and I kinda assume it has something to do with my kidney disease

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But I'm glad I'll at least be able to beat basic Hades runs x)

#

Just gotta get those DDs, lol

#

Uhh, does crit attack work for spear spin? 🤔

shut gyro
#

I'd assume it does

#

Attack boons affect anything you have to hold attack for

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Example: I put deflect on attack and doom on special to set up for the duo boon on, so my shield charge also deflects

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I hate the spear but it should work the same way

cobalt river
#

Uhh, does the purple crystals have a back side? 🤨

dusty vault
#

dont think so

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same goes for hydra

cobalt river
#

I see

#

Thanks

cobalt river
#

Dang... Almost got to the final boss 😬

blissful agate
#

got a ME in Asphodel, feeling good about this run

leaden whale
#

You guys can do it : D

void remnant
#

hoew to heel😭

wise hornet
# void remnant hoew to heel😭

first healing stuff comes from the mirror and sisyphus, but don't worry about healing yet just enjoy the game cause mostly are spoilers

#

or if you unlock the ||fountain chamber which is rare to see so it wouldn't matter much||

dusty vault
#

Those arent spoilers dusa

void remnant
#

I typed this when at 3 hp in ||Hades second stage that insanely caught me off guard and i nearly died from the wave when he healed||

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Yeah going in blind is a fun experience

wise hornet
dusty vault
#

I mean for this channel only past final boss stuff are spoilers

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So ||demeter nourished soul and gy||

void remnant
dusty vault
#

Yeah

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End boss -onward as per channel description

void remnant
#

Oh alright so i reached when i type spoilers but still shouldn't click them

chilly onyx
#

hello guys

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i did all the thing for guan yu but achilles doesnt giving me the talk fort guan tyu

faint umbra
#

hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel, please spoiler the name shadesmile

chilly onyx
#

sorry

faint umbra
#

did you make sure to meet all the requirements exactly?

chilly onyx
#

yes i think

graceful spire
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did u push the story of Achillies

chilly onyx
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i talked too many times but i cant talk with him right now

graceful spire
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I mean did u give him too much nectar

chilly onyx
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i gave him 2 nectars

graceful spire
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then u should be fine

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give more tries and make sure u meet the requirement

chilly onyx
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thanks

void remnant
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so uhhh

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i cant gift charon stuff

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why???

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I have nectar

sweet brook
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might've hit max amount of nectar

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that or im pretty sure you can only gift once a run

void remnant
sweet brook
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prob hit max for now then

void remnant
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Its 6 hearts

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And on next one there is a lock

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How to remove the lock?

sweet brook
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ngl i dont remember but it'll unlock eventually the more you play

void remnant
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Also i just lost a run with a gun where i dealt 1000 damage per each special attack

viscid notch
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You have to do his favor

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Can check the wiki

void remnant
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I'll find out myself then no thanks

viscid notch
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Yea you can figure out the majority of them if you just keep playing

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There's jut a few tricky ones

void remnant
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Also

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Is it me or is there actually more rare boons from minibosses' drops' blessings'

viscid notch
void remnant
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oh

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Also how do i deal with Murder

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She's so hard and i keep messing the patterns with other ones

viscid notch
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Basically answered it yourself bouldy

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Just practice and get more familiar with the patterns

void remnant
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It looks very polite:D

viscid notch
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It's bouldy

uneven sierra
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it is as good as everyone says (this game) i finally believe the hype. you people who made this have tasty brains

random copper
solemn ivy
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I'm never picking against Aphrodite again... 😅

devout basalt
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Heart bouldy

uneven sierra
void remnant
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You know what

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Never go to a choice

proven pivot
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^

topaz jasper
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nah trials are great

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double boons can be straight up broken

muted pivot
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yeah trials are awesome

shut gyro
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Especially if it's Athena

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Her trial's ridiculously easy

topaz jasper
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usually

muted pivot
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easiest ones imo are pos and aphro but nobody seems to agree with me on that

void remnant
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Also, to be honest ares has very situational blessings and poms of power can be overpowered

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(~950 per shot is unbased)

shut gyro
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Doom is just very nice in general

void remnant
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but only thing that gives it that i know is dash ability and it gives doom at start position of your dash which is honestly not effective for me

viscid notch
void remnant
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I nearly killed theseus without using up revive:(

inner hound
void remnant
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I died in styx to poison

inner hound
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oh

void remnant
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Whats a greater call?

inner hound
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when your call gauge is full, you can have a greater call which some increases in damage, length etc etc. just an upgraded version ig

plush fog
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how do i see the call guageu

viscid notch
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It's under your health bar

plush fog
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oh ok

viscid notch
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You can only see it if you have a Call

void remnant
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guageu

plush fog
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and how does call refills

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by killing?

void remnant
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Deal/take damage

void remnant
viscid notch
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It easier to do in boss fights

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Because the fights take long

void remnant
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I never got more than 2 gauge at a time(without using)

plush fog
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why does the game keep getting harder after each time i die ;-;

void remnant
gray haven
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It does to some extent. Some enemy types don't show up until you've progressed past certain points in a previous run.

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Which can be harder at first.

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But overall, it gets easier as you upgrade your mirror etc.

void remnant
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Oh well

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Redacted got me again

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Congratulations wretched broker:D

random copper
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i am here to officially confirm that god's legacy is useless

sweet brook
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It's good for duo reliant builds

random copper
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exactly

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it's supposed to be

sweet brook
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Lmao true

random copper
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but nope

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chasing mirage shot and have pos spec and arty cast

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1 arty and 3 pos boons later

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no mirage shot

sweet brook
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It do be like that

random copper
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just take pride lmao

dusty vault
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(joking)

muted pivot
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so true

random copper
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at least 20% is decent

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anything above would be kinda op ngl

void remnant
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Why is redacted so hard

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The wretches Redacted summons is justT_T

sweet brook
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they're rng based lmao sometimes you'll get easy ones other times you'll get difficult ones

void remnant
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I broke the lock on Charon but i still cant gift??? Wth???

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Do i need ambroisia?

sweet brook
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yes

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if you do have ambrosia you might have to wait until the next run to do it

void remnant
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Once again i die by Redacted

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||damn laser||

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||Got him to second stage and then i have no place to hide from laser||

wise hornet
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just call him redacted lmao

void remnant
void remnant
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also got him ridiculously low with lucky crits from ult

wise hornet
void remnant
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Also damage is pretty unfair from laser(Killed me from 100 hp)

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Also should i really get more health?

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I get to Redacted at like

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200-250 max health

graceful spire
sweet brook
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That's enough imo, would be easier to learn to avoid the lasers

graceful spire
#

dash to behind rocks

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thats what I do every time

sweet brook
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He's got a animation cue for it

graceful spire
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unless u have shield

void remnant
graceful spire
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daddy shield doesnt give a f to anything

void remnant
graceful spire
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dash

void remnant
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Also is 24 deaths much?

sweet brook
sweet brook
graceful spire
void remnant
graceful spire
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u probably can complete it next time

void remnant
graceful spire
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like its never tooooo late to dash

void remnant
graceful spire
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Unless u are too low

graceful spire
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dash horizontally obviously

sweet brook
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You can still dash even if stunlocked by an attack