#h1-for-new-players
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for ||32|| sd or dd are both valid options, dd is you're comfortable with the enemies and not taking a lot of damage, sd if you're still struggling a bit
what you can do with sd is crank ||lasting consequences|| to the max and before you leave each room activate sd so you get free healing
oh thats interesting
various well items and patty can increase the amount of healing you get from sd as well
was thinking of ||FO2 and hard labour stacks||
||fo2|| is an extremely good one to learn because once you get used to it it's a free ||9 heat|| so that's nice
obv with some weapons you'll end up struggling a bit more, especially the slower hitting ones
hmm gotcha
what do u personally prefer to run for slower hitting ones?
i really want to avoid getting rnged by ||approval process|| and others
well they're namely hidden aspects, spoiler the names btw, i like to use ||beowulf|| and ||rama||
the first one doesn't have many problems with ||fo2|| but the second one can be a bit more of a struggle if you dont get twin shot
oh actually same i prefer those 2
casts ftw
i thought the triple shot was nice since its chunky
#h1-high-heat-strategies message
||heat guide|| by someone here
lmao

triple shot is good if you can get it right, it's just very difficult because you have to be standing on top of them for all 3 to hit
twin shot is more consistent and a lot easier to use
np
the guide above pretty decent one imo for ||heat||, obv there's substitutions you can use but it'll help you avoid some nasty ones
@sweet brook
hi
what is the exclamation mark symbol on the door
that has 3 different colour circles on each side
the ! on the door is an npc room
miniboss room
which is better to take
alright thanks ill go npc
also since you're new, the npc's in the runs also advance various story plots
ahh ok, ty :)
the shields q seems so weak
so little damage
Yeh I only use right click and left click with shield
just use it if you want to snipe something across the room at 1 hp
yeah the cast is pretty useful, attack is obv gonna be your main source of damage
lmao yeh, I thought i was doing something wrong but guess it really is that weak
dont forget to bull rush as well
hm yeh i use my dashes aswell
bruh I just beat megera and i only got hit twice with the shield
also, miniboss rooms can show up later if you dont take them the first time
its so nice
can npc rooms show up later
no
npc and midshop rooms don't show up again
shield is one of the safest weapons in the game lol
nice job
also fountain rooms but you cant really tell when those exist lol
is there like any indication for a fountain room?
no
damn
if its a boon room its def not fountain?
but darkness keys and gems are free game
and hearts
no, any reward can be a fountain room (except stuff like minibosses, shops, story rooms, etc)
What're the best aspects to invest in early on? I pumped like 3 levels into poseidon, but it feels too finicky to me in all honesty. Got another two in Chaos, and chiron feels like it isn't worth it unless it's high level
Check pins
chaos is meh, special doesn't do too much base dmg anyway
chiron can be potentially good at low level, if you get the relentless volley hammer (and concentrated while you're at it)
bow - hera
shield - zeus is good but if you like special spamming then chaos is decent
spear - achilles
sword - nemesis for crit chance :D
fists - all fists are meh, but demeter is my personal favorite
rail - eris personally is kinda wonky, hestia might be better
hestia literally sucks at low levels
is charged shot good?
and what hammer and which boons should be paired with serrated point on achilles spear?
one of shield best hammers
yeah thought so
for serrated probably arte works to take advantage of the dmg bonus?
yeah I have her dash, idk about the attack though. Right now I have a lvl 2 epic ares attack and the poseidon cast, and then I got some weird duo boon between poseidon and ares
COD gaming 
whats COD
curse of drowning, the duo you mentioned
is it good?
it can work
on achilles is fun cuz cast dmg + you can move directly to the enemy even if its far
Chiron is actually really good once you get some blood in it btw, since I saw someone ask
Chiron lvl 5 S-tier
^
Low level hestia is basically aspectless
I got it with a hammer that makes you charge faster, and it was absolute cheese central. Spam casts, run away, punt anyone that comes too close away
Yeah I've gotten that too on ||beowulf||, just not sure if there were better hammers
on zeus shield exploding return is great too
Chaos + stacking effect + more bounces hammer sounds like a nice combo
😩
hey, I saw a boon called Icy flare from demeter, is that like a second cast from her? Because I've seen the turrets before, but this says "Your Cast damages foes around you and inflicts Chill." Is this a cast, or just something that supplements the cast?
||youre playing beo||
||Just for Beowulf||
ah ok, thanks.
||on beo, casts are replaced with flares||
Isn't it also hera
Oh that's dumb
it's probably good for cold embrace tbh
Only dio cast
Ah
if i have skelly's keepsake and stubborn defiance, and i die, do i use up skelly's keepsake or stubborn defiance?
stubborn
k thanks
Hi, i bought the game yesterday and got a bit of progress by now ||(beat Megaera, Hydra and even reach Theseus before dying like a noob)|| and i dropped a few Titan Blood and was wondering where can i use them?
You can use them to unlock different aspects of Weapons!
Or upgrade them as well
oh okay, and how can i unlock aspect of weapons?
Unlock all weapons then go on a run
^^^ After that You should soon be able to interact with the weapon of choice. Once you choose it, click the button to choose it again.
Then when you go pick up a weapon use the same interact button you used to pick it up and you'll be given options
Yeah
okay thanks! i unlocked only 3 of them by now
Youre doing awesome progress!! Good luck have fun!!
thanks! ^^
all of them are viable, for beginners the ones who give extra hp/extra life/extra resources are quite nice
god keepsakes are the best for the first 2 biomes, after that, take defensive keepsakes
use god keepsakes to force the duo/build you need and then after that use the defense
sorry
Keep acorn
|| I was doing really good in the run and had all my death defiances until Hades second phase 🤧 ||
for some reason the ||second phase|| is easier for me lol
especially before ||50%|| health, since the ||lasers|| can be avoided very easily and you can do a ton of damage
first phase is generally harder, second phase has the potential to combo you to death if you slip up
lasers and pots can end your career instantly
I heard something about being able to hug the boss to get past lasers and do a ton of damage. Is that still a thing?
yes
hi! there are some boons that i just cant seem to get and i cant work out why. when i look at them in the menu it says they have no particular requirements so not sure what im doing wrong. plz help ❤️
Sometimes rng is cruel, there could also be some incompatibilities with some stuff, what exactly are you hunting for and not getting
rip tide from Poseidon
Rip tide? You mean Rip current?
that's a pretty rare boon since it has a non core prerequisite
yea i think so
It requires his call, do you have that?
yeah nothing more you can do other than take his call and roll on subsequent poseidons
oooh okay ty
weird that you have to have his call but it doesnt say that in the requirements
huh does it not
i havent played in a few days but im 90% i checked and it didnt say.
wack
but the same thing happened to me with Proud bearing from Athena, it said no prerequisites in the menu but reddit said i needed her call and i did
but for rip current you need Poseidon's call or just any call?
Poseidon’s specifically
it does
the way you know when to evade meg's attacks is surprisingly subtle
Which builds make stygian soul worth it? (I know you have to get at least one extra cast from chaos)
Achilles with Crystal Beam can be nice, or Trippy Flare with the Hidden Shield aspect or Hera
With other builds you see it being used because it’s slightly better Hermes odds than Infernal
Not because it’s very relevant or anything
Like on Hestia
yeah, takes stygian soul removes flurry cast from hermes pool so you have better odds of getting good stuff
specifically both flurry and quick reload
swapping them for auto reload
then one very subtle difference is that for most builds, stygian hermes legendary > infernal legendary
I'll maybe try a meme beam run with achilles today
Hi
What is an encounter exactly? Like obviously the chamber would be the whole room, so I'm assuming encounter doesn't also mean the whole room
Is it a per target thing or is it the waves when enemies spawn
it's any chamber where you fight stuff
1 encounter = 1 chamber with enemies in it
Ah okay ty
Also, I've been having a hard time with the poison rats at the end specifically on account of the poison, how do I deal with that?
they're strictly melee so if you can stay out of range you don't have to run the risk of getting poisoned
I know about the fountain that cures it but even fighting next to the fountain the poison is still enough to burn all 3 of my res
So casting mostly
What weapon are you using?
yeah or non sword/fists weapons in general
I've mostly been using the sword and the fists
lol oops
:)
Depending on the aspect and boons I've done different stuff
They're fun
Poseidon sword ez
BTW how do I unlock the last aspects?
tbh for fists I just slapped on artemis cast
one trick is to use patroclus's keepsake in styx, it hard counters poison
There's stuff for them on the wiki, idk if it's spoilers
I'd recommend trying it out
yeah wiki.
How early on are you
Well I haven't made it past cereberus yes but I've been there like 4 times
spoiler ||heat||
🧠
also, a "standard encounter" is any encounter thats not a boss or a miniboss
Patroclus is a chad because he gives you a beef jerky for the ||elysium champions||
not beef jerky, cyclops jerky
you get the idea
very different texture, a bit like pork
So, I beat hades for the first time what's this screen at the end with all my boons?
its a victory screen
I'm just standing around now there's no exit lol
Found it lol I'm blind
How many runs until the codex index appears at the contractor. I have the fated list of prophecies and still don't see it.
Hey
i did my first max tight deadline and i lost cause of 5 sack broo
Doesnt styx alone make hades very annoying to speedrun?
Check pins in #h1-story-discussion
thanks
It’s mainly what led to the Speedrunning Modpack becoming a thing
But yes
Styx is a pain
just did 16 ||heat||
surprisingly easy tbh
had 3 dd's left and 250 health or something
Heyo, i have a question. I'm new here and in the game and i recently got this screen and idk if i'm doing smthin wrong or if it's a bug. Can anyone help me? ^^'
https://imgur.com/a/Px4Y7TA
Yeah def a bug also what with the text at the bottom
You arent using mods as a note?
Ask for help in #h1-tech-support then
alrighty, will do
Also should remove the embed for the pic as the ||heat gauge is a spoiler in this channel||
oh, ty
so... how do you farm titan blood? :I
Contractor has it sometimes, and much later in the game you unlock another way.
Yeah, the game tough
If you've made it to the final boss you're almost to the blood farm, and spoil the final boss's name if you talk about them by putting || on either side
Do you have all the weapons unlocked?
yes
Shield makes final boss easier, cause you can block the attacks. Like literally all of them I think
I tried with shield but I just lose too much HP when trying to damage
I use sword and pray I get the cursed slash hammer upgrade
That's a bit of a trap honestly
it works a lot better than anything else I tried
It seems really good, but it doesn't work with dash strikes which is the ideal way to sword. Non attacking dashes make you invincible but attacking removes that btw. A lot of people don't realize so I figured I'd mention it
If you have Athena's keepsake, use it. She makes life way easier and consistently getting at least one of her boons helps a ton
well ye I have her call and dash
and then artemis attack and special with hunters mark
sadly no cursed slash this run so far
at third boss
which sword are you using?
the crit one
ah that's good
if you plan on using athena and artemis in your build, try and get deadly reversal
i believe you need athena's atk or special and then one of artemis' core boons
and then the dash is just supplementary
I can try to get athena attack with artemis dash
does that give block to ur dash attack?
only right in front of you
I'd go with Athena attack and dash myself
but their duo is better if you have athena's dash
what does it do
because when you reflect your crit chance increases by like 40% or something
^
+20%
^
yeah that makes more sense lmao
also pardon me I gotta die on third boss rq Cx
have fun
You can deflect melee attacks btw. It doesn't make much sense but it does work iirc
Also: if you aren't targeting the bull first, you should be
I didn't die
very cool
Nice!
how many dd's left?
oof dash nova kinda funky
the issue with dash nova according to others here is that despite being the first weapon you're given, sword is one of the most precise weapons in the game
melee weapons are inherently more dangerous, and the special launching you across the room kinda messes up a lot of set up and precision needed
considering the standard combo of sword is special-dash strike-dash strike, dash nova is gonna be sending you all over the place
basically with sword you dstrike into enemies, dnova is just gonna launch you somewhere else after that and you lose damage
and dash strike combo when I need to be careful
it's just that my q gets me out of an aoe way faster than a dash
dashes make you immune to the aoe
unless you're a shield gamer
Atleast Shield gamers have something reliable instead of the Dash
i think dnova would be somewhat more decent if it didnt perform the special animation after the dash
so it doesnt make your special take longer 😐
or give us snap nova again
kid named flurry nova:
kid named nova:
anyways does dnova really increase frame data because that's scuffed as hell
what i meant is that you have to add the time from the special animation and the dash itself so youre just more vulnerable
the animation on its own is the same
dash nova frame data is the same as pressing q immediately after a dash im pretty sure
hm interesting
Gaming
corngrats!
im 8 hours in and struggling to get anywhere unless i luck out with a build or two. Any tips?
By gifting nectar to gods you can get their keepsakes which will help you control your build
There's also a practice element, the game is a roguelike, you will die a lot
Ah this makes sense, didnt know nectar did that. Thanks!
Wait you havent gifted mectar to anyone?
I have, and i completely misread what he wrote, thought it said boons
Ah lol
It took me 16 attempts to finally win my first
I've heard some people go as high as 40
Got close once, didnt expect the last part tho.
i just bought it. first time playing. i'm prepared to die a lot (°-°)/
that's the spirit
well in that case start runs with your desired god's keepsake to force them
So uhh
I bought the game yesterday and i'm really a fan of roguelikes
But
I have 3 deaths in a row in same place, that is being chamber 22
The one with ultimate gorgon and, how is that called? A stomper?
The stomper has honestly. A little unfair range
That's a mini boss room, and you've gotten really unlucky to run into it 3 times in a row, oftentimes you can get through the entire area without a mini boss, and there's two other potential mini bosses in that region
Wait its not guaranteed?
Also is it skill issue or is it supposed to be really hard?
It's not guaranteed, and even if it shows up, sometimes you'll get a choice of rooms and can avoid it through the other door. It has a specific symbol I don't remember off the top of my head
Power couple can be rough but they get easier with time
The other 2 minibosses possible are worse, imo
Bit of both on that front
Barge of death my behated
I'd say barge is easier but the witches circle is awful
Well barge isn't really hard ig it's just really slow
Yeah that
It's pretty simple, it just takes a long time lmao
The only advice I can really give for power couple is to try to focus down the gorgon and try to dash strike around it so it has to turn more
It keeps being the choice of 1 room, either both have icons
wait i just unlocked some godly power
Every room has icons, but mini bosses have a specific one. And if you're only getting one door that's even more unlucky
Wait have you only done 3 runs total?
Oh
Calls! Yeah those help depending on what you get
Starting with Athena's keepsake can also help
Also how does reflecting works
Basically, if the reflect effect hits an attack, it doesn't damage you. Projectiles get launched but melee attacks also get reflected. I'm honestly not sure on the specifics of it beyond that. Assuming you ARE talking about Athena's thing
Can a shield reflect by default
The weapon? No, but if you hold attack it blocks, which is pretty much the same.
Well, the same for avoiding damage
It doesn't reflect damage, just removes it, but the point is you don't take any damage if it blocks it
Yes
Dashing also makes you invincible regardless of weapon, but attacking while dashing removes that
Almost
Some attacks have a big enough radius to break through blocks even if you’re facing in the direction of the attack
Oh yeah. It's just like only a couple
But they’re niche and you’ll notice them at much higher level of play for the most part so not something to worry about, Block is reliable enough
^
Yeah, like I've beaten the game something like a hundred times and I've never noticed any of them
So what is a good weapon to use?
I just use spear because great range is always great
They're all good if you enjoy them, but shield is probably the easiest
I noticed that the bow deals really insane damage but is pretty hard to use
Very true
Timing it's power shots is annoying but if you're good at it it's also very good
Use chiron ez
when i finish game can i still go escape like doing escape forever
I KEEP GETTING IT AGAIN AND AGAIN
WHAT THE HELL
I just tried 32 ||heat||
died at elysium
||nd now there are some "themes" at the house contractor||
and they're expensive as hell
those are the ||victory screen themes||, you can look at some examples on the wiki
Cast is rarely useful right?
Is really useful
Either just for boiling blood on any tough mob or boss, some nice extra dmg/opens duo but if you arent doing a cast build is not needed to focus on it that much
Is there a good strat to beat Theseus and Asterius easily?
A good numbers of run end up because of this bosses
or lose like at best 2death defiance on them
and at worth i lose my run at them
From my limited experience; focus minotaur and keep moving around the pillars to make him stumble into them while also shielding u from the spear guys attack, then spear guy is an easy kill if you wait for him to throw his stuff and attack while he is walking
Yeah do this. Normally what I do is avoid theseus as much as possible. When hes inside the center of the arena, go to the outer part of the arena, around the pillars (while having asterius chase you and doing damage to him). If he's in the outer part of the arena, go to the other side of the arena or in the center. Kill Asterius first!!! This is very important, dont try doing damage to theseus, only asterius.
i already do that, but got a really hard time dodging minotaur and at the same time looking if Theseus isnt throwing his spear at me
yea
Now how do i best fight ||Hades?||
I killed minotaur and his friend killed me
||Destroy the skulls early, and focus down the adds when he spawns them. There is a blind spot next to hades when he does his laser thing. Apart from that it is just learning timing mostly, for me at least.||
||Poop, been fighting him 3 times and thought my build just sucked since i couldnt brute force him. Tanks for the tips!||
not me hard shielding an exalted and getting stabbed anyways because it hit around the shield from the front
What weapon you using?
||You could just go at the opposite map since the wave attack doesn't nearly cover the entire map||
or dash through
Dashing through is effortless
||dash through big spin, dash away from big thrust, break cast skulls as soon as possible, if they shatter, dash through the wave
when hades disappears, all status curses are cleansed from him and must be reapplied
in the second stage, destroy the pots by dashing through them (f you have such a boon). the blind spot for the 360 laser is hard to find, so I don't recommend that. athena call is a good counter, as you can keep on dishing damage at the boss. with the triple beam, you can move behind hades and get extra backstab damage in that way
if he summons voidstones, DESTROY THEM IMMEDIATELY||
dash through the wave, it requires no skill at all
Any call with invulnerability or big damage helps a lot
I had a funny run where I had artemis on call and cast both
All calls have invulnerability when activated as an aside
artemis call is meh
if i have good dps i tend to take athena
or otherwise maybe poseidon or demeter
Demeter's seems kinda eh
But the full invulnerability ones are the ones I use most yeah
The bow, have tried with focusing on both attack and special. Usually a comb of Artemis attack, Aphrodite special, Poseidon dash and Fog bomb for cast
What aspect?
What is the nectar from Theseus and the minotraur for? Like what can I do with it
Sure
||As far as I remember you'll use them to progress the hearts in the books at some point, and then you'll get something (Idk what they're called), which can be used during the runs, you can also use them to upgrade those items||
You're gonna need quite a few of them, as far as I remember
So, uh, I just got back into the game, and I just bought the shield, is there a certain boon I should go for? Or is the shield just generally useless? I don't remember it being a whole lot fun? 🤔
I like the zeus one
shield is broken
Okay. So, any recommended boon for basic shield?
aphrodite attack
Ooh, don't have her... thing yet. Idk what they're called either, lol
I think I have... Ares, Poseidon, Zeus, and Artemis
Only done about 9 trips so far :I
artemis attack is good too
So, if possibly try to focus on dash-attack?
And then perhaps Athena dash or Zeus Dash for either defensive or dps 🤔
yeah dash attack and bull rush
I'm thinking
So, should I take attack or an Artemis epic dash-attack? 😐
artemis attack i think
Okay. Does kinda seem like the dash-attack doesn't include crit 🤔
i personally dont really prioritize dashes in builds
Just has +70% dmg, I think
yes
Still, +70% is quite a bit compared to +20%, no?
true, but i think artemis attack opens up more duos than the dash
Ahh, might be a bit early for me to go for duos atm. Just trying to get as far as I can without DD atm
Haven't even gotten all the weapons/mirror effects :3
I don't even think my book can look for what I need yet?
could pull up the wiki lol
fresh file speedruns get merciful end so it's definitely possibly for you to get a duo
Well, kinda just used to use the book, back when I played
Merficul end? I don't know most of the names in the game x)
athena ares duo
point being, it's not "early" in the game for you to not get a duo
Dang it... Now that I have crit attack, there's no reason for me to skip... the black hole thing in the floor, lol
Forgot their name x)
chaos
how I survived up to the boss battle?! cause I seem to either play too caution or too aggressive. I can make it to the first boss but my wins are like 7-2!
Riight, Chaos
you're getting better at the game lol
Well, yeah, just gotta practice
with shield look for attack or dash attack damage ideally
if you cant get either of those just get something that doesn't harm your playing too much
Pretty much all there is to it. Certain boon combos can make the game easier, though
by how many more runs? cause im up to 24 as of now
you said the farthest you've gone was the final boss?
the first boss
ah
24 runs and the first boss?
I was able to beat her 2 times but they just cant anymore
inbetween many loss runs that is
can you send a screenshot of your mirror and tell us what weapon you're using?
tbh Im sure on the laptop im using😄
but I have been using the bow and trident in her fights. I wish there was the ability to change out weapons before a boss fight
You're gonna need a mod for something like that.
Have you tried the sword? Seems pretty decent to me
the 2 times I was able to win was when I had explosive battle from the hammer
Heck, the shield + crit attack seems nice atm
bow is pretty good imo but harder to use
U just need to get a little more used to the boss's cues
btw if you see aphrodite dont forget to give her nectar
I'd only use bow of chiron, or whatever it was called
Don't have any, but thanks :p
ah rip
then I have to worry about her whip attack constantly
Charged flight, Minotaur rush, or Pulverrizing blow from hammer? (shield)
pulverizing blow
No, not really. Pretty easy to dodge, especially if you have double dash, and you should have that by now
yeah pulverizing blow then
But with the crit, might be nice as well
what other gods have you found so far or are you still in tart
actually those 2 points are a bit unrelated lmao
Me? Still in Tartarus. Just began the run, and I'm chatting here between every floor, lol
oh lmao
Hmm, should I try and bet on Ares?
tbh i dont think ares is great for shield
ares on the special is pretty decent though
Not even his special? For a bit of bonus dmg?
Is the powershot one
ah i see
i mean yeah it's bonus damage but shield special kinda doodoo
Hmm, yeah, kinda see the point there. Which one should I try and aim for, if I don't stumble into Aphrodite? (Or however her name was spelled)
zeus is solid
Is this default shield?
wait ares can give you hunting blades huh
yes
with arty atk
because no aphrodite keepsake
you could take ares and take his cast and get hunting blades for an easy win lmao
Yes, default shield. Only just got back to the game. And I didn't really use the shield back then, so I'm not quite sure what to go for
with shield you normally get aphrodite atk, zeus something, get smoldering air, then win lmao
oh and charged shot
since you have arty atk and ares is being offered, you can just get hunting blades which is an easy win but will take a bit of time
fyi hunting blades makes ares' cast home into enemies rather than just go into nowhere
Does the hammer have an attack boost against armor? Would fit nicely with my double attack and crit attack, lol
i'm pretty sure there's a certain hammer that'll make you deal more damage to armor but with what you have rn i dont think so
Aw, could be fun to get those darn shields shredded, lol
the breaching rush hammer will make your bull rush do 400% more to armored units
Well, did some bad mistakes, so almost lost against the boss. So, should I just switch to Zeus token, or whatever it's called?
Ohh, keepsake
Didn't find Aphrodite :I
nah i'd stick with arty
Hmm, why?
zeus only works on shield because of aphrodite/arty
you want to start with an attack ideally, zeus is more of a supporting god
Okay.
Guess I'll just use Nyx's keepsake, then
what does hers do lmao
They already have arty attack
wait almost lost
Atm, +10% dmg on foes from behind
But, wasn't Zeus useless?
i thought you had lost so you were starting over lol
Ahh
zeus is bad to start with, but you're at the second biome so zeus is fine
Zeus special, dash, or cast?
rip no nectar
I did get one the moment I said I didn't have any, lol
oh nice
Flourish, Dash, or Lament?
what does lament do lmao
i think dash
and hopefully the arty-aphro duo boon pops up
you deal more crit damage to enemies with weak so i think that'll be an easy way to inflict weak
Oh, I see. Well, that's only if I do get the duo. Can't even guarantee I'll survive the second boss, lol
Ah, Idk how that works
your call caps at 25% but you charge 1 percent every idk 1/4 second or something
calls give iframes briefly when used and depending what your call is you can do a ton of damage
zeus boons also support one another extremely well so if you happen to see zeus a lot it'll ramp up your damage
Uh, wasn't I supposed to go for duo, and not call? 🙃
well it's both
zeus call and zeus duo ideally
if you dont get the duo it's fine but it's just something that'll bring up the damage by a lot
Probably not gonna aim for calls atm
zeus call kinda good tho
Isn't smair main thing billowing and swind
i forgot those existed lol
Zeus call pretty good on top of that though
but even without that yeah smair zeus call is just good dps
As someone who hasn't beaten Hades before, what are some boons i should go after? my main necessity is Athena dash
yeah those are great but smair is also just kinda good on its own
may i interest you in merciful end lol
damage from dio/zeus call or smth can be really good
what is that?
Wooh, second boss killed. So stupidly easy, it's almost like it just stands there waiting to getting beaten, lol.
So, was it Aphrodite keepsake in hopes of duo?
relatively high rng build that can have massive dps for melee weapons
ME duo is whenever an enemy with doom inflicted gets hit by something that can deflect, the doom procs instantly instead after 1/1.5 seconds
Yeah but those are what make smoldering as top tier as it is i think
believe so
Especially cause billowing is also zeus
so i need some Ares boons to make that work, correct?
ares atk/special and athena atk/special in order to be offered the duo
however, it's generally ares atk with athena special, pray to find duo and athena dash
there's a few other ares supporting boons that make it really strong
impending doom is a big one
Impending doom mainly
yeah
Dire less so
dire misfortune is alright but hey it's extra damage so why not
idk i think with those smair is S tier and without its still like A
Just run ME curse of longing and spam your athena thing smh
and this would work well with fists, right?
Me works well on every melee weapon though
Demeter gives you the most to fall back on if you don't get the duo ig
looks like that build is perfect for me then.
MEris is cracked smh
yeah mainly that
i've never seen this in action and can't imagine how it would work lmao
i've heard of it but the concept just sounds wack in general
just be prepared to be sad if you dont get the duo lol
if you dont get the duo, you at least have a chunky special every so often which is nice as long as you're running aspect of demeter
i usually run demeter so i already have it upgraded a bit
nice
there are other builds that dont rely on as much rng to be good but they dont use divine dash
- Rail is a melee weapon
- Eris global damage boost
It's a meme but its pretty strong for a meme
oh the damage boost affects doom huh
yeah that's a strong meme
if you get spread fire it's basically a melee weapon i guess lmao
I hate just about everything from the third zone.
Especially that I just died to a stupid trap because of Aphrodite dash, because I was looking if I had a Nectar to give to Chaos .-.
But didn't get duo
lmfao rip
tbh you could just take chaos anyways and worry about the nectar later
unless you were too low on hp
Apparently I had low enough hp to die from a trap
Noticed the sound too late, though
rip
But still, considering I'm not using DDs, doing alright, I suppose
That run, all my upgrades were +50 hp and +30 obols from the mirror
And the extra dash, of course
you should get those dds lol
Isnt the first dd like only 50 darkness?
i think so lol
Yep. Just not buying it yet, lol
I think I'm just gonna get obols maxed, then the healing from darkness, then dmg from behind.. Was there something else? 🤔
Saving that for later xP
why
Doing alright so far, no?
i mean yeah but dd's will get you much farther
I suppose. But might as well practice a bit more before I get "crotches", or so to speak... Or was that the wrong word? 🤔
Don't remember it
i saw you prioritized the hp because that's maxed, dd's basically give you a permanent 50% more hp each run
Calling dds a crutch is a bit 
Just bought the spear... not quite feeling it, though. Might just go with sword, though
dd's aren't a crutch, it's just more hp
Tho i called divine dash a crutch at some point so im not the best one to speak
Also yeah dds are a resource
I suppose they aren't. Still, got no darkness x)
I've used them on purpose to enter chaos gates
i mean i think there's more stance behind calling ddash a crutch than calling dd's a crutch
I'd say extra dash just increases survivability
ddash forces you to start athena every run (or rely on it too much), dd's dont really change your playstyle except maybe more aggressive but that's just because you have more hp
... Why?
ddash is athena's dash, having an extra dash is like standard for everyone lol
I was talking about extra dash, I used to take divine dash for some extra protection, though
But, uh, spear or sword? Kinda leaning towards sword, but any reason to use spear?
Personal preference mainly
well relying on ddash for survivability isn't a bad thing, it's just that sometimes people become so reliant on it that it impedes their build making at times
i would know because i was one of them
most people probably are/have tbh
Was the first run I did x)
There isnt denying is good anyways
it is good yeah
And as much we meme the divine dash copypasta is kinda true 
Kinda like Zeus dash + speedy weps, though
Ooh, isn't Zeus + Posidon duo decent?
Have both of those keepsakes
the concept is good, i just dont know what weapons can utilize that
Well, bow with chiron, I suppose. But right now I don't have that
Is a nice extra but not really you fish for it i think
Oh yeah sea storm chiron is legit
Forgot tha
oh does the zeus internal cooldown not apply to that
oh true
Which is quite nice
2nd highest right
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Still, you can get a decent amount of shots off
i guess throwing in an extra 2 or 3 lightning bolts in there doesn't hurt lol
I just kinda liked the chiron effect, seemed like a lazy aspect, lol
i do not enjoy chiron although it is pretty good lol
Just attack once, and stand in the background and spam special
well the target disappears after a bit
if you spam specials it only goes through 3 times
Yeah, but can usually get off 3 shots, no?
unless you have swift flourish then you can get 4
Special speed and whatever boons that increases the dmg just helps x)
Just slap tidal dash/pos cast and call it a day
if only zeus special worked on chiron
Add beaver if needed
Zeus special or tidal/flood shot?
Zeus special
it's useless because of the internal cooldown lol
Meant for the picture you sent, lol
against bosses tho it gives you an extra 30 (common) damage per arrow
8 arrows, 240 damage common
Okay
not terrible
Then add double strike/your random zeus support boon
but there's also the other zeus boons like jolted
and yeah
and if you happen to get splitting then lighting go brrrr
isn't it just 2
well i guess it's not great at level 1 yeah
just get relentless volley chamber 1 lol
If it's lvl 1, then I'm basically forced to go for the hammer, or it'd kinda ruin the run
yeah lmao
Considering going with spear. Should I just get Zeus attack and hope I get some decent boons on top of that?
tbh idk any spear builds that dont involve using hunting blades with achilles aspect lol
spears are very hammer reliant
And when will I be able to look through boons with the book? :I
not sure when that happens
i think you're given it by achilles?
either that or contract table
I have the book, but I can't look at boons with it yet
contract table then
Oooh, might be a lucky run
Just picked Artemis keepsake, just figured I'd get attack crit, and then I get attack speed boost from the hammer :D
flurry jab my beloved
Ooh, +37% attack crit from Artemis. Now I just gotta get attack boost from Chaos 🤣
I'm like, 3 rooms into the run
If you have Deadly Strike, make sure you get Hunter's Mark from her and pom that a couple times.
Hmm... First time at the third boss since I've returned. Think I'm gonna beat it with 133 hp? 😅
I beat the third boss with 2 hp left 🤣
Hmm... Well, didn't really expect to win against the final boss, but I don't really understand why I died either 🤔
You got hit 😃👍
Yeah, I get that... But I'm pretty sure I dashed through, it, though 🤨
I guess I might have dashed too early 🤔
Dash-attack also decreased i-frames, no? 🤔
they stop the iframes as soon you do a dash strike
I see. Might also have been a dash strike. I tend to just do those
It'd probably be super busted if you could just spam dashstrikes while also having full i frames tbf
Probably, but also a bit hard to getting used to not doing it, on top of all the stuff you have to look out for s_s
Quite a bit can happen on Hades screen
But still, did pretty well considering I didn't have any DDs x)
Got to the final boss
Yeah, but that tends to happen in any high-speed pve game
Especially with ones that can be bullet-hell-y
Also, I'm probably not as fast as I used to :I
In what sense
Well, my brain just feels foggy AF, and I kinda assume it has something to do with my kidney disease
But I'm glad I'll at least be able to beat basic Hades runs x)
Just gotta get those DDs, lol
Uhh, does crit attack work for spear spin? 🤔
I'd assume it does
Attack boons affect anything you have to hold attack for
Example: I put deflect on attack and doom on special to set up for the duo boon on, so my shield charge also deflects
I hate the spear but it should work the same way
Uhh, does the purple crystals have a back side? 🤨
Dang... Almost got to the final boss 😬
got a ME in Asphodel, feeling good about this run
You guys can do it : D
hoew to heel😭
first healing stuff comes from the mirror and sisyphus, but don't worry about healing yet just enjoy the game cause mostly are spoilers
or if you unlock the ||fountain chamber which is rare to see so it wouldn't matter much||
Those arent spoilers 
I typed this when at 3 hp in ||Hades second stage that insanely caught me off guard and i nearly died from the wave when he healed||
Yeah going in blind is a fun experience
few of the healing stuff that i consider effective is ||guan yu, dusty feather, or picking up boon hp restoration effects||
I mean for this channel only past final boss stuff are spoilers
So ||demeter nourished soul and gy||
ohh ok
||is hades boss a spoiler||?
Oh alright so i reached when i type spoilers but still shouldn't click them
hello guys
i did all the thing for guan yu but achilles doesnt giving me the talk fort guan tyu
hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel, please spoiler the name 
sorry
did you make sure to meet all the requirements exactly?
yes i think
did u push the story of Achillies
i talked too many times but i cant talk with him right now
I mean did u give him too much nectar
i gave him 2 nectars
thanks
might've hit max amount of nectar
that or im pretty sure you can only gift once a run
First time at Charon in the run
prob hit max for now then
ngl i dont remember but it'll unlock eventually the more you play
Also i just lost a run with a gun where i dealt 1000 damage per each special attack
Yea you can figure out the majority of them if you just keep playing
There's jut a few tricky ones
Also
Is it me or is there actually more rare boons from minibosses' drops' blessings'
Minibosses have increased rarity
oh
Also how do i deal with Murder
She's so hard and i keep messing the patterns with other ones
Basically answered it yourself 
Just practice and get more familiar with the patterns
whats that emoji?
It looks very polite:D
It's bouldy
it is as good as everyone says (this game) i finally believe the hype. you people who made this have tasty brains
you have to spend 10K obols in his shop (i don't remember if wells apply)
I'm never picking against Aphrodite again... 😅
Heart 
anyone want light green hades cursors instead of the red ones?
https://imgur.com/a/PWbZA6g
Never pick up against Zeus
You know what
Never go to a choice
^
yeah trials are awesome
usually
easiest ones imo are pos and aphro but nobody seems to agree with me on that
Also, to be honest ares has very situational blessings and poms of power can be overpowered
(~950 per shot is unbased)
Doom is just very nice in general
but only thing that gives it that i know is dash ability and it gives doom at start position of your dash which is honestly not effective for me
You’re confusing Doom and Blade Rifts
I nearly killed theseus without using up revive:(
good luck bro
I died in styx to poison
oh
Whats a greater call?
when your call gauge is full, you can have a greater call which some increases in damage, length etc etc. just an upgraded version ig
how do i see the call guageu
It's under your health bar
oh ok
You can only see it if you have a Call
guageu
Deal/take damage
wait how do you even get so much gauge??
I never got more than 2 gauge at a time(without using)
why does the game keep getting harder after each time i die ;-;
It doesnt though?
It does to some extent. Some enemy types don't show up until you've progressed past certain points in a previous run.
Which can be harder at first.
But overall, it gets easier as you upgrade your mirror etc.
i am here to officially confirm that god's legacy is useless
It's good for duo reliant builds
Lmao true
but nope
chasing mirage shot and have pos spec and arty cast
1 arty and 3 pos boons later
no mirage shot
It do be like that
just take pride lmao
Both legacy and pride are a scam
(joking)
so true
they're rng based lmao sometimes you'll get easy ones other times you'll get difficult ones
Once again i die by Redacted
||damn laser||
||Got him to second stage and then i have no place to hide from laser||
that's actually a good way to censor ||hades the final boss||
just call him redacted lmao
Saw it on reddit:D
For second stage i keep standing behind rocks or what?
also got him ridiculously low with lucky crits from ult
either hide behind the rocks or hug him (but you can risk getting hit and staggered)
Yeah
Also damage is pretty unfair from laser(Killed me from 100 hp)
Also should i really get more health?
I get to Redacted at like
200-250 max health
dash quickly everytime when he tries to release laser
That's enough imo, would be easier to learn to avoid the lasers
He's got a animation cue for it
unless u have shield
ah nope he already got me before i noticed him starting to laser(I was offscreen)
daddy shield doesnt give a f to anything
My friend calls it the best weapon and calls me skill issue
got u once is better than got u twice
dash
Also is 24 deaths much?
There's audio cues as well but that's more subtle and difficult to notice in the heat of the moment
Nope
nah
oh well i died for first time to laser too
u probably can complete it next time
Thats what i keep telling myself
I mean laser did damage u once is better than twice
like its never tooooo late to dash
but its stunlocks doesnt it?
Unless u are too low
You can still dash even if stunlocked by an attack