I use all of the weapons
#h1-builds-and-combat
boreal prism
Well which aspects sound like fun to you
steel gorge
I already have the aspect of demeter for the fists
fists are probably my favorite weapon
I used that to finish the main story
lucid oar
Demeter fists are great, never wrong to put blood in that aspect
steel gorge
and I recently got aspect of poseidon for the sword but only used it once
honest wing
how do I upload the monthly challenge screenshot
actually wait I didn't get disciple of poseidon
dammit
steel gorge
I like the rail but I find it the hardest to build for
I've only had one successful run with it so far
and it basically relied on spamming triple bomb
boreal prism
Rail special builds are wonderful
boreal prism
Eris rail really rocks. Hestia is strong too, but I find it weird to use
steel gorge
is this the channel to talk about low heat
I'd like to know which pact of punishment options are the easiest
only doing like 1 or 2 right now
proven osprey
Depends on how familiar you're with an aspect, but tight deadline 2 is very doable
vale imp
I would suggest doing extreme measures as well just so that you can learn the new bosses as well
steel gorge
though my only escapes so far that would have been within the time limit were with one particular aspect
guess I need to get faster!
proven osprey
Yeah extreme measures 2 is good for a start too
steel gorge
right now I'm just farming the boss rewards
turbid needle
Does anyone have a chart for builds or YouTube playlist
steel gorge
will extreme measures make meg mad at me
proven osprey
Nah
terse sphinx
Hrrrm
So like....if I'm goin for a duo boon, should I avoid other gods' boons, or can I take a mix?
lucid kelp
So like....if I'm goin for a duo boon, should I avoid other gods' boons, or can ...
Same question
terse sphinx
Gee wish I could help ya >w>
fading panther
Just take whatever god you have available at the moment, it will always cap out at 4 (not including Hermes and keepsake usage)
Sooner or later you’ll get the duo boon with rerolls and such, it’s up to RNG
Most of the time, it’s not worth it to skip gods you don’t want just for better RNG, unless if specific god makes your build not work anymore
terse sphinx
That...kinda made sense >~> What about capping at 4?
fading panther
Once you get 4 different Olympian gods on you (again, not including Hermes), no more new gods will show up for you, future boons you’ll get will only be from those 4 gods you got atm (unless, again, if you forced another god to appear with keepsake usage)
terse sphinx
Interesting
waxen shell
And if you're looking for a certain Duo boon that isn't showing up, you could use a Fated Persuasion roll, via the ability in the Mirror of Night
fading panther
There’s no limit to it
terse sphinx
Ooo
fading panther
It’s a mirror upgrade
lucid kelp
I can see Fated Authority but not the other hmmm
Ohh I c
found it
so what's build should I go with for exrteme measure?
I'm really struggling
steel gorge
in what situations are chaos gates worth entering
iron locust
Dire Misfortune Chiron makes for some interesting shenanigans
It's the easy to net high Doom damage, if you care at all for the thing
Gotta wonder how ME would fair with it then
But it would be a complicated combo
turbid needle
chaos gates are basicially always worth unless you think you'd die afterwards
iron locust
With Impending's Delay, you can net an additional 300 more doom damage before it procs
Stack that with PS, PP, or even just Impending Doom itself, you can score some insane burst damage
turbid needle
being on low health or having a debuff before a boss can be nasty
iron locust
Oh lmao
I once picked up a Demeter Fist Attack Curse from chaos before Theseus and Asterius
Fastest I've ever died
turbid needle
yeah rerolls make chaos rly safe tho
fading panther
Dire Misfortune Chiron makes for some interesting shenanigans
Tried it, and it’s pretty clunky. Armored enemies is a headache. As far as assembling it, it’s not that hard I guess, just need a little bit of RNG with rerolls
iron locust
Tried it, and it’s pretty clunky. Armored enemies is a headache. As far as assem...
Piercing Volley though
steel gorge
what's a good build for poseidon sword
edgy mauve
lightning phalanx or zeus cast work great
steel gorge
does lightning phalanx get stuck in the enemy
edgy mauve
yep
steel gorge
oh cool
lucid kelp
So when there's a lock on hearts, what should I do to unlock them?
jovial fulcrum
that means their locked until a certain story event. Just talk to them whenever you see the "!" dialogue on their head
iron locust
what's a good build for poseidon sword
DISLODGE FROM ARTEMIS
steel gorge
I've been trying to get that in this run but she won't give it to me
ah finally I got it
solar dawn
Got cluster rockets for the first time, on hestia though. This damage is insane
fading panther
Rail is one of those weapons where the hammers alone wins games
Those are some really strong hammers
turbid needle
Question, is Achilles useful
proper furnace
Best spear aspect 
edgy mauve
yeah
achilles is mega useful
the ability to zip and zoom and deal tons of damage is insane
also
if u see flurry jab literally instantly take it
mild raft
Achilles is great at getting first boon% and chamber 1% PBs
proper furnace
I've always wondered if that was something people do, guess that answer it 
edgy mauve
i mean
i try and shoot as low as i can
when im running with it
i dont reset for first boon though LOL
mild raft
My current first boon% Pb without Achilles/gilga is 1.01
edgy mauve
Achilles is great at getting first boon% and chamber 1% PBs
well technically gilga is faster
uh
i think mine is just barely sub 1
mild raft
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797986799484928010/832653445159714837/unknown.png it’s on mkb too
strange lark
I think I've gotten a 1.06 or something
edgy mauve
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797986799484928010/832653445159714837/unk...
mine's is like 0.99 or 0.98
i know ive gotten a 0.99
sterile fiber
I walk to it unless TD
lucid oar
Dash through the pillars for me
If you miss the dash, it's gonna be a 1.40
I've also got like a 1.1x with ruthless reflex
mild raft
Yea it’s easier to get that dash angle on controller tho
lucid oar
Definitely
edgy mauve
sometimes i miss the special tech on achilles mald for half a second
and then get my 1.51
mild raft
I haven’t quite committed to turning on Dash at mouse for first boon and then turn it off for the rest of the run
mild raft
It is optimal but I am lazy 😔
acoustic vale
Game REALLY likes giving me dash nova with arthur for whatever reason
No thanks game, I'd rather not face a skull encounter with roiling in effect
+73% foes on a room with more difficult encounters? No thanks
strange lark
D A S H N O VA
acoustic vale
Is there I can increase arthur's attack range? It's apparently not long enough yet, I want to hit everything in the room at once, or as close to it as I can
edgy mauve
no i dont think so
acoustic vale
sad, but not unexpected
edgy mauve
sword doesnt have any extending thing
acoustic vale
The game also really likes forcing me into Ares, but I just really don't want Ares in my pool tbh
acoustic vale
That's exactly what I've been thinking, but yet the game keeps giving me no other choice. Him and Zeus man, they're so pushy lately. Meanwhile I would prefer Aphrodite, Athena, and Dionysus
edgy mauve
u can do zeus cast
or call
and then u want aphrodite for smoldering
zeus is actually fine imo
acoustic vale
I mean yeah, Zeus isn't bad, I'd just prefer those three because they make a really good tank build, and I feel extremely powerful with the tank build lol
Luckily, I can FORCE Dio into my pool as I am currently entering Asphodel with Aphrodite, Athena, and Ares. (Zeus hasn't shown this run) Almost makes me want to pick Artemis for the 4 A's
lucid kelp
Best build for aspect of chaos?
lucid oar
Thunder flourish, static discharge, splitting bolt, explosive return
edgy mauve
@deep lake trippy aiming is hord
edgy mauve
eris special is fine
deep lake
I just let it auto aim
edgy mauve
because i dont aim it
deep lake
as best as possible
edgy mauve
only time i actually aim special is with rocket/cluster/clockets
make sure not to yeet it in the opposite direction
deep lake
Clockets is OP af
edgy mauve
and with cluster i just gotta stand on top of them and they all target the same thing
deep lake
I just get point blank range and let it rip
deep lake
I don't play too much eris anymore, it's too OP
edgy mauve
all 5 clusters will just autotarget
deep lake
And no matter what I try to go for, it always ends up a zeus build
edgy mauve
SO I DONT EVEN HAVE TO AIM WHEN I NEED TO AIM
deep lake
I've had a lot of fun with lucifer
ME lucifer is insane
I also tried super soacker but it was meh on bosses
deep lake
did u get tbomb/epic jolted/good hermes?
No chaos, idk what tbomb is, decent jolted, but I had sea storm
and infinite ammo
edgy mauve
triple bomb
well
luci needs alot to get good boss damage imo
mainly tbomb and good hermes
good chaos can and will help though
cinder mist
Are skull rooms quicker than normal rooms even when they're just ordinary enemy rooms?
lucid oar
Yes usually
They have more armored enemies, which have a higher difficulty value, which usually means there will be fewer waves
lucid kelp
I'm confused, I've read 2 different builds for aspect beowulf .. what do you think the best in your opinion?
or just give me the best known build for it
cinder mist
This might be a bit nerdy, but: Are there graphs/tables for which pom upgrade to pick at what level between two boons that boost the same damage? Like, when you have to choose between buffing your Doom-dealing boon and Impending Doom for example. Is it as simple as "the one that's lowest level", or does it differ?
cunning urchin
@acoustic vale Thunder Dash is actually pretty good on Excalibur, too.
You'll want to get Static Discharge asap, of course.
proper furnace
I'm confused, I've read 2 different builds for aspect beowulf .. what do you thi...
i think the most used are passion flare, flood flare and trippy flare
passion for high damage, access to weak
flood for bigger aoe, easier access to mirage shot (bugged to cause x2 damage instead of the x1.3)
trippy has the highest damage but needs stygyan soul and casts from chaos/charon wells
lucid oar
The WR uses flood flare
cunning urchin
The speedrun WR.
lucid oar
This might be a bit nerdy, but: Are there graphs/tables for which pom upgrade to...
Make sure impending is 2 levels below your attack, I think
cunning urchin
Not everyone speedruns.
lucid oar
Speemd runm
sharp sinew
Any tips for chaos shield?
cunning urchin
Can you call it a speedrun when you consider the hours of resetting it took to get the result?
lucid oar
Well, that one in particular didn't take that long 
cunning urchin
Any tips for chaos shield?
Best hammers are Explosive Return and Charged Shot.
Thunder Flourish start is very popular.
sharp sinew
How do I get final shield aspect when I have the spear one
jovial fulcrum
Talk to Chaos a bunch iirc
cunning urchin
Check the pins in #h1-story-discussion for that.
sharp sinew
Thanks
cinder mist
Ok since I'm a fountain of questions today: Why does this guy run Poseidon? I get that Impending Doom merciless thingy and his luck is pretty broken this run, but I think I saw him cast about 3 times in total throughout the run. Wouldn't Zagreus/Nemesis be stronger? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cDpYj7H0DU
lucid oar
In the speedrunning discord, there is a thing called "aspect of the week"
That week it was Poseidon sword, the guy happened to demolish the sword WR
lucid oar
Also I'd doubt he only casts 3 times, you use your cast to snipe enemies in Tartarus all the time on ME weapons
cinder mist
Yeah I exaggerated
lucid oar
Yeah, all world records tend to have nuts RNG
cinder mist
I mostly meant that he didn't even pick up a cast boon until pretty late and used it just to snipe distant foes occasionally
So I was a bit befuddled as to why he used Poseidon - makes sense now
More questions! If somebody speedruns and has Tight Deadline, are they going for RTA?
lucid oar
Yes
cinder mist
I thought it was better to not have it since you get those timer rooms then, but this other run I'm watching has maxed Tight Deadline
righto
Might try some speedruns soon, hence all the questions about it. Accidentally got a 13 min casual time yesterday without trying for speed which surprised me and made me want to see how fast I can go if I try
turbid needle
Got a question on Priviledged status vs family favourite. Is privileged the kind of go to choice?
lucid oar
Not really
Family favourites will always give you damage without you having to choose boons that you wouldn't normally choose
turbid needle
Yeah I almost always end up with 4 gods, so that's 10% guaranteed
lucid oar
Although privileged status has its place in some builds, such as hangover builds and passion flare snow burst
Yeah, Hermes is also counted so you get +25% damage pretty much every run
turbid needle
Oh it goes that high? That's cool, I don't really go for status builds a lot
edgy mauve
its 5% per god
lucid oar
Family favourites is +5% per god when you level it up, privileged status is +40% when you level it up
lone jetty
There’s two levels of Family Favorite. Maxed its 5% per god including Hermes (not Chaos)
turbid needle
I think I'll run family favourite initially then. I'll invest in that after I max Olympian Favour
The increase in rarity looks teally good
lucid oar
Also, you might want to switch to dark foresight
If there is any "go-to" mirror perk, it's dark foresight
turbid needle
Oh really? How come? I was genuinely going to go Olympian Favour over it haha
edgy mauve
dark foresight is insane
see
it increases the amount of boons u get in a run
it increases hammer chances
lucid oar
It changes the ratio of blue:gold laurel doors from 50:50 to 30:70, which is huge
edgy mauve
it increases the ratio of getting all the good stuff
turbid needle
Wow okay, I'll get that maxed now thanks for saving me a mirror rest
edgy mauve
what is OF gonna do if u get no boons
lucid kelp
i think the most used are passion flare, flood flare and trippy flare
passion fo...
didnt get this part "casts from chaos/charon wells"
edgy mauve
chaos can give u extra casts
and so can wells
chaos can u give extra cast damage and extra cast stones
wells can as well
turbid needle
Yeah that makes hella sense. I'll go Dark Foresight + Family Favourite then!
lucid kelp
chaos can give u extra casts
Oh I c thx
lone jetty
Priv Status has its uses if your best boon options are 2 status effects. The typical good example is a cast build with Crush Shot and Snow Burst
lone jetty
I mean neither do I but I could see the argument for it
edgy mauve
when i think about PS
i think about a mirror talent being useless if u dont get good boon rng
and that sucks
when u have FF that is literally just passive
dont even have to think about it
turbid needle
Yeah the more I can hit buttons without having to think the better haha
cinder mist
https://youtu.be/Z1D3d1Kb_xg <- this guy, what makes him deal such insane damage? I can't quite make out what boons he takes. Is it just crazy backstab damage with shadow slash aphrodite + exposed?
edgy mauve
its probably lightning phalanx LOL
but yeah mostly what u listed
also he grabs splittign with zeus dash
which is insane
lucid oar
https://youtu.be/Z1D3d1Kb_xg <- this guy, what makes him deal such insane damage...
He gets epic cast damage from chaos really early on
cunning urchin
Epic Rush Delivery, Lightning Phalanx with an epic and a rare Shot, Thunder Dash and Zeus' Aid with Splitting Bolt, Smoldering Air, and Billowing Strength... there's a lot there.
edgy mauve
definitely a lot of stuff that makes him deal insane damage
cinder mist
Ok, so basically not a build to try to emulate :p
lucid oar
Broke the aspect completely, no-one else can compete
cinder mist
Sounds like pretty crazy rng
cunning urchin
Speedrun WRs will always have insane room luck and build luck.
Wouldn't have been a WR if they didn't have that.
Getting a build like that would be easier than getting the rooms and enemies he got.
cinder mist
Yeah, but if it's stuff like Merciful End or Poseidon/Zeus at least it's easy to aim for in my own poor man runs
cunning urchin
That's something you have a bit more control over.
Not every detail of the build, but something perhaps equally strong.
cinder mist
Man I'm full of these questions today. How do god keepsakes work if you diss their initial appearance? Say for example I pick Ares' keepsake and the first door has his boon, but I enter a Chaos portal instead - is he guaranteed to show up the next time a god would, or did I waste my guaranteed boon by entering the portal?
hoary slate
They have a counter on them. It'll only decrease once you actually pick one boon up from the specific god.
acoustic vale
Shop boons don't decrease the counter IIRC
cinder mist
Neat
cunning urchin
Trials count.
acoustic vale
How does Ravenous Will interact with weapons that load casts?
proper furnace
as long it shows 0/3 it should apply
proven osprey
^
proper furnace
currently trying to max than damage
i hope it doesnt miss or im gonna cry
acoustic vale
tfw your casts get the +20% bonus for not having any casts left
sharp sinew
Do you use charged shot with the 4th shield aspect bc I used it with another shield aspect and it was pretty good
proper furnace
yup
edgy mauve
Do you use charged shot with the 4th shield aspect bc I used it with another shi...
best hammer for it
proper furnace
can the mini boss chambers in styx change to a normal reward with the re rolls?
or they stay as boons
strange lark
They can change to any golden laurel reward
steel swan
acoustic vale
I think I'm starting to understand the appeal of charged shot beowolf, I just took out 3 of EM lernie's heads with one charged shot
turbid needle
Man, that first clear really opens up the ego to smash clears. 3 in a row now including my first. Achilles spear is super fun. Got the triple hit dash strike hammer + epic Aphro attack and it just decimated everything jeez. Asterius and Thesius in particular just got destroyed
Also I had no idea Aphrodite max gauge call did so much damage, wiped out the final third of bone hydra in one go
sharp sinew
Yeah her call does like 1200 I think it says
I haven’t checked in awhile but I almost never get hers but I loved it when I first used it
turbid needle
It was basically best of a bad bunch, I ordinarily don't bother with it either
Sword is up next for me, only three (including sword) left to clear with now. Does Nemesis aspect play kind of similar to Achilles in the special > attack, attack, attack, attack flow?
edgy mauve
well
optimally u have flurry jab
this is for achilles btw
so the ideal combo for achilles is dash strike dash strike special
same goes for sword iirc
u can weave casts in on both
proper furnace
nemesis is special > dash attack x whatever amount you have
turbid needle
For sure the -25% dash range was a bit of a killer especially cause Hermes didn't give me any extra dashes to make up for it
Ah okay, I think I might unlock Nemesis then, if the flow is kinda similar
special and only two dash strikes for achilles?
edgy mauve
and with +dashes its the same on achilles
edgy mauve
special and only two dash strikes for achilles?
yeah because that rhythm is optimal
or
turbid needle
yeah because that rhythm is optimal
Even though you're wasting two of the buffed hits?
edgy mauve
Even though you're wasting two of the buffed hits?
see technically ur not
because the rhythm still saves two
turbid needle
Does anyone have a chart for builds or YouTube playlist
edgy mauve
ur just specialing in between
proper furnace
you can also throw a cast before dash strike
turbid needle
Right okay, so the special and charge are buffed
And it means you can use the special throw for movement too
proper furnace
attack and cast
turbid needle
Resetting your dashes?
edgy mauve
also with flurry two dashstrikes uses up all the charges iirc
but
again if u have +dashes just exhaust them all and then special
turbid needle
So the basics are use x dash attacks (depending on how many dashes you have) unless you have flurry jab in which case 2 remains optimal?
edgy mauve
So the basics are use x dash attacks (depending on how many dashes you have) unl...
no
if u have +dashes
exhaust them all
and then special
with flurry or not
because one tidal dash damage and thats still alot of extra damage coming from those flurry dash strikes with +dashes
turbid needle
Ah I see, I think I've got it now! Poseidon is my favourite so this blends really well
Really hype that sword has something similar as well, but more crit focused
I didn't think the game would be this deep when I bought it haha
turbid needle
ME?
proper furnace
merciful end (athena-ares duo boon)
turbid needle
Oh I haven't come across that, I might try for it on that sword attempt then. Duo boons are fun
edgy mauve
yeah
just make sure to put doom on attack athena on special before dash and then get dash for ME
because dash isnt a prereq is Sadge
terse sphinx
Is there some way to break the Dark Thirst cycle between the only three weapons it’s been choosing? I haven’t played with my Aegis in however long, and hardly ever my spear
edgy mauve
completely random
terribly random
incredibly random
superbly random
its so random the random is random
sterile fiber
reject dark thirst, play whatever you like
dull comet
Can you have multiple duo boons changing on ability?
I'm hoping for Freezing Vortex (Ares/Demeter), but already have Hunting Blades (Ares/Artemis). Will it possibly show up?
sterile fiber
No
edgy mauve
Can you have multiple duo boons changing on ability?
I'm hoping for Freezing Vo...
u can have multiple duo boons for th same thing
but some duo boons lock each other out
for example
CoD locks out mirage shot
vice versa
hunting blades lock out freezing vortex vice versa
dull comet
I see! That answers a lot of questions (Hunting Blades first on the last 3 runs; I'll change it up then).
Thanks so much for the prompt reply!
steel gorge
see u could just run ME on sword LOL
Is ME good for sword?
If it is I might try that
wanton comet
Is it possible to have 100% damage reduction with aphro boons?
edgy mauve
Is ME good for sword?
its very good with sword
boreal prism
Damage reduction stacks multiplicatively so I think it never quite reaches 100%
jovial fulcrum
Reduction can't reach 100%
but Dodge chance can, iirc
Get, like, Zag Fist, Second Win, a bunch of Plume stacks and some other stuff i'm forgetting
turbid needle
Whats a good build thats semi easy to setup for Aegis? Its by far my most successful weapon, but I havent been really going after any builds lol
proper furnace
aspect?
turbid needle
Like aspect and boons i should go for
proper furnace
different aspect uses different things thats why i asked what are you gonna use lol
turbid needle
Oh lol well i haven't unlocked an aspect yet, i JUST unlocked the last weapon so :p
proper furnace
base shield iirc is either aphro/artemis on attack and charged shot
if you go with aphro you can pick up zeus call and aim for smoldering air
wanton comet
Damage reduction stacks multiplicatively so I think it never quite reaches 100%
aww that's a shame
wanton comet
but Dodge chance can, iirc
does that mean dodge chance is additive or just so much that it can multiply to basically 100%?
strange lark
It's additive
turbid needle
Which aspect is the best for Aegis? As far as im seeing, Zeus and Zagreus look the best? But idk :p
wanton comet
Which aspect is the best for Aegis? As far as im seeing, Zeus and Zagreus look t...
Chaos can be pretty fun with the bouncing shield upgrade and Zeus Special.
but honestly, everything is pretty usable.
turbid needle
Ooh okay gotcha. Are there any boons i SHOULDNT go after when using Chaos?
wanton comet
Not really, since your multi procing your special, anything could work. Maybe not Aphro so much and Ares if you don't have the stacking doom effect boon.
sterile fiber
tempest strike is generally not great on most things since rupture can always be applied with flood shot
wanton comet
tempest strike is generally not great on most things since rupture can always be...
Is flood shot one of the really good casts?
edgy mauve
flood shot is decent imo
wanton comet
because I can't seem to figure out where I would place them
sterile fiber
arguably second best on Beowulf or tied with crush
wanton comet
when lined up.
edgy mauve
the cast u have really doesnt matter unless ur using a cast weapon
casts on non cast weps are just preference imo
sterile fiber
Handy for crowds
wanton comet
Oh yeah, casts builds with aspect of Poseidon are really fun.
sterile fiber
esp when you have damage control turned on
edgy mauve
u ever tried hera or beowulf?
wanton comet
which weapon is hera?
sterile fiber
bow
sterile fiber
- Infernal soul
- get stronk cast
- load all 3 into the bow
- nuke
wanton comet
you can load 3 into one shot?
wanton comet
sheesh
sterile fiber
beat Charon with a 5 cast Hera yesterday
wanton comet
Artemis cast sounds killer with that
sterile fiber
I've never tried Artemis Hera, it's on my list
the go-to is Crush since it negates its drawback of low range
edgy mauve
and crush shot just nukes everything without any drawback
wanton comet
ah you're right
wanton comet
crush is the highest base damage cast
edgy mauve
and its instant as soon as ur bow ends
proper furnace
dio/athena casts are also fun with hera
sterile fiber
though, like Beowulf, Flood Shot can lead quickly into Mirage Shot
wanton comet
DIO
edgy mauve
though, like Beowulf, Flood Shot can lead quickly into Mirage Shot
yeah and it has bigger AOE so it has more wiggle room for mistakes
sterile fiber
though, Flood and Phalanx can sometimes run away if you miss, or if the enemy dies before the last one can connect
leaving you to chase after the casts
happened a lot with my 5 cast Phalanx Hera run
edgy mauve
my name is phalanx shot and im the fastest cast alive
sterile fiber
inserts why are you running. video here
edgy mauve
DEJA VU
sweet blade
if the coinpurse levels mid-run, do you get the gold?
untold vortex
I don't think so, I'm not sure though
steel gorge
What’s the best build for Demeter fists
edgy mauve
merciful end
steel gorge
Ah right
That’s what I’ve been doing
I assume specifically it’s ares attack and Athena special?
Or is it the other way around
thorn glade
i love the posieden dash
proper furnace
athena
thorn glade
i love poseiden dash personally
proper furnace
you dash strike to apply doom then make it procc inmediatily with divine dash
athena special is only for the pre requisite
thorn glade
oo that does sound good
untold vortex
Another good build for dem fists is Athena attack Artemis special into Deadly Reversal
It won't out dps ME but it's safe and fun
sterile fiber
Also Lightning Strike
untold vortex
All in Zeus is also a fun fists build :3
thorn glade
i do like the zeus thunder
proper furnace
hangover can be fun too, easy to apply to max stack
thorn glade
yeah that is good
sterile fiber
a less optimal but still okay one is Drunken Brawler (Dionysus attack, then get hangover buffs)
even more memey is Heartbreak Strike into Unhealthy Fixation
steel gorge
I love ME fists but I also like trying new stuff
Sometimes my coolest runs have come from trying to rescue builds that didn’t work out because RNG
edgy mauve
Which dash
athena dash
steel gorge
Oh sweet
acoustic vale
Here I am again, getting given zeus and ares boons on builds that don't really want them
acoustic vale
God imagine these beowolf runs if I actually got mirage shot
turbid needle
Is demeter a good aspect for the gauntlets
acoustic vale
yes
outer quail
yes
terse thistle
Demeter was made for gaunts… she’s the only god to ever use them. It’s all in the lore too.
acoustic vale
God imagine these beowolf runs if I actually got mirage shot
Imagine if I actually got boons
terse thistle
As of now I feel Arthur synergies well with them crystal lasers
bronze marten
As of now I feel Arthur synergies well with them crystal lasers
try Achilles spear with the lasers
terse thistle
I feel like that dps is gonna blow my mind…
I will do that as soon as I lose using Arthur once more to end my current streak at 24
acoustic vale
I've decided: Screw mirage cast, I'm going aphrodite this beo run
bright fossil
what is the best cast for beowulf shield again?
raw blade
flood flare ig
acoustic vale
I've usually heard Poseidon's
raw blade
its pretty fun
acoustic vale
Artemis
the goal is aquire flood flare, an artemis boon, and then get mirage cast and charged shot
bright fossil
ah k
bronze marten
I feel like that dps is gonna blow my mind…
yeah if you get glacial glare and arctic blast (chill/10 chill stacks does 80 damage) it can go places fast. I had one beautiful run where I had Stygian soul and pommed glacial glare so it was like 12 seconds per laser with 3 second cool down with mirage shot and that beat dad in under thirty seconds
Tho use three casts if going for a dedicated cast build, I started with Artemis Excalibur and it kinda went off the rails a bit (one of my rules that has significantly improved my play is to try to make it work when I get a weird god in Tartarus rather than fight it since odds are they’ll keep showing up)
elder stump
how can i use aspect of zeus shield effectively?
boreal prism
always have your special out, and ideally in a crowd of enemies
put thunder flourish on it
indigo moon
No one mind me here, just sometimes getting 3000+ damage on Excalibur
turbid needle
try Achilles spear with the lasers
Try triple jab, improved speed and demeter attack with Varatha
steel gorge
is there a handy list of the top builds anywhere
bronze marten
Try triple jab, improved speed and demeter attack with Varatha
I just did lmao
languid forum
with hestia do u just shoot the empowered shot and reload
or do u use the majoity of the magazine
lucid oar
with hestia do u just shoot the empowered shot and reload
Yes, don't empty your clip unless there's like one numbscull. You can also dash to cancel the reload animation, and special after every second reload. If you special after one reload, you can cast after the next one
languid forum
thank you
sterile fiber
can Fated Authority potentially roll a non-boon gold room into a boon room?
strange lark
yeah
proper furnace
is possible to get explosive and flurry together (bow)?
errant narwhal
nope
flint kernel
some shield build ?
rugged geyser
some shield build ?
What aspect?
flint kernel
the first one
lucid oar
Aphro/Artemis attack, pulverising blow and charged shot are both good hammers
So one of those is good
civic grotto
Want to try higher heat (9+) with hidden aspect bow, any good builds I should focus on?
lucid oar
Get aphro/Artemis attack, Artemis/Athena dash, doom/hangover/Zeus on special, and twin or triple shot
To make the special better, you can also get impending doom/pom hangover/jolted+splitting bolt depending on which one you see first
flint kernel
Get aphro/Artemis attack, Artemis/Athena dash, doom/hangover/Zeus on special, an...
I get zeus first tf I can do now ?
flint kernel
what I chose first ?
lucid oar
Static discharge
flint kernel
I dont have static here
lighting strike / elektric shot / thunder dash
HELP
@lucid oar
lucid oar
Can you reroll?
lucid oar
I should have clarified, you want Zeus on the special, and then you get the other boons that I listed
flint kernel
wanna screen share ?
lucid oar
But since you didn't get special offered first run, I'd choose give up and put on aphro keepsake to get the attack
I don't know how to do that
lucid oar
No VCs in this server
proper furnace
decided to do ares cast beo
this is dumb in a fun way ig
cunning urchin
Electric Shot is always decent start if you don't get Thunder Flourish.
knotty sigil
Should I get explosive fire for my gun or flurry fire?
I’m doing the standard electric strike
strange lark
whats the third option?
prime island
wow, super dissapointed. running zag sword, had poseidon special. was working great, got the hammer upgrade, double nova. special hits 2x but doesnt knock away anymore. i figure, sure, regular special would not knock away, but with a poseion boon, which only effect is knock away, youd think that would be a loophole. nope. here i am with a peosidon special that doesnt do peosidon stuff. wicked cool.
errant narwhal
iirc, it doesnt cancel the knock away from poseidon boons?
hmm. maybe double nova does cancel it. i know that pulverizing blow on the shield doesnt cancel the poseidon knockback effects
terse thistle
I could be wrong but cold embrace doesn’t feel that useful
prime island
can confirm, poseidon special is completely useless with double nova. tried it side by side with the cast, which sends them flying, like usual. but double nova, nada. boooo
sterile fiber
but you can still proc Sea Storm
the more important question is, can it apply Rupture
prime island
I could be wrong but cold embrace doesn’t feel that useful
its basically for taking the randomness of who it aims at out of the equation, so you get up in the face of whover youre pummling and the lasers are down with ya game plan
terse thistle
Sounds good gonna wreck them bosses
prime island
idk yet, but ill see. but the wallslams are the point of poseidan for me, that damage is dumb strong. i was thinking if I had someone against the wall id be getting double bounces and stuff. nope, the worst possible outcome of that combo lol
turbid needle
probably the worst duo
celest horizon
Is Rush Kick any good?
terse thistle
Rush kick ain’t too bad
solar dawn
how does rav will work on beo? is it active when the casts are loaded or only when they're on the ground?
turbid needle
Okay ME was totally worth going for, the damage is reallllly good. I need to work on chaining the dash attacks better but it was even faster than my spear clear without me bothering to unlock Nemesis aspect
Just wow
raw blade
ME is op
turbid needle
I totally gimped it by taking a dash boon instead of Athena's so only really had it properly for Styx, it's crazy good
mild raft
can confirm, poseidon special is completely useless with double nova. tried it s...
Poseidon special still gives you a pretty bonkers damage increase
acoustic vale
Wow, I stop going for mirage shot and NOW the game gives me artemis boons
rugged geyser
What boons other than flood dash could help me on a chiron bow build to help clear out swarms of enemies?
valid ocean
revenge boons are also fairly nice with chiron
lone jetty
What boons other than flood dash could help me on a chiron bow build to help cle...
You’ve got options. Several casts hit multiple (Zeus) or do AOE (Dio, Poseidon, Athena). With Drunken Flourish you can tag one, lay on full hangover, then decide to maybe change targets if you think the hangover will kill the first as another means of crowd control. Also, attack pierces through multiple baddies if you line them up.
rugged geyser
Never thought of using dio on special
I’ve only been doing aphro attack arti special
proper furnace
is fun , try it
turbid needle
honestly just dash strike low health enemies
lone jetty
Yeah you can one-shot loads of Tartarus
rugged geyser
If I’m running dio special what else do I use?
edgy mauve
low tolerance and curse of nasuase or however u spell it are the main good duos for it
low tolerance is definitely first priority though
strange lark
Curse of nowshea
acoustic vale
HAHAHA, EM4 DEAD!
celest horizon
Is Dash Nova good for Nemesis Sword?
alpine warren
guuuuys its so hard
i can barely beat meg or her sisters with melee weapons
but the range weapons ezpz made it to theseus lol
any tips pls
acoustic vale
what happens if I use meme beams with hera
lucid oar
It's bad
acoustic vale
well yeah, but does it spawn the crystals at the arrow location?
edgy mauve
well yeah, but does it spawn the crystals at the arrow location?
yeah
prime island
Poseidon special still gives you a pretty bonkers damage increase
I mean the same "special does xpercent more" sure, but it gets pooped on hard in that build
acoustic vale
Is lucifier better with flat damage or percent damage attack boons?
lucid oar
For rooms, Zeus attack is better. For bosses, % attack is better
However Zeus attack can scale to be waaaaay better
And most boss damage comes from the special anyway
acoustic vale
I've got dio attack rn lol. Game is offering me to switch to demeter attack
lucid oar
I'd keep the Dio, especially if it's a high pom level
acoustic vale
it has 2 poms lol
lucid oar
Yeah keep it. What other gods are in your pool so far?
lucid oar
Artemis is great on Lucifer. You can get the special which is good, and pressure points, hunters mark and support fire are all really fun. Splitting headache too. And with Ares you can get curse of nausea to boost your hangover damage
sharp sinew
What’s everyone’s favorite build? I’m working on getting 4th shield aspect and idk what to do after I get it
What to work on exactly
sterile fiber
well yeah, but does it spawn the crystals at the arrow location?
Do it with cold embrace
proper furnace
What’s everyone’s favorite build? I’m working on getting 4th shield aspect and i...
get a high damage cast, pom it a lot, get mirage shot (artemis/poseidon duo) then unleash a nuke in your enemies
boreal prism
For many people, their runs at heat 0 are already fast enough for tight deadline 1
Are your runs under 36 minutes of in game time?
strange lark
Dc on fast attacking weapons is pretty easy
mental mantle
I believe my record is around 33 mins
About to do the bow, so may go a little slower
Is that cutting it too close?
strange lark
Yeah probably
boreal prism
The timer might stress you out, so it depends if you're good under pressure
Another option is convenience fee 1
mental mantle
Hmm, maybe damage control?
strange lark
Not on bow
boreal prism
Damage control on bow is a bit rough
mental mantle
Ah, fair enough
boreal prism
Every enemy you would be killing in one hit would take 2 hits to kill
mental mantle
Yeah, good point, that would suck
Would be better with fists or something
I’ll do convenience fee I suppose and try to push myself to see how fast I can clear.
boreal prism
Lmaoo
You don't strike me as someone very... convincable
Anyway yeah there's a bunch of options for heat 1
The one you really wanna watch out for is heightened security, it's bait
sweet frigate
Damage control on bow is a bit rough
Unless you use Aspect of Chiron, in which case it means nothing
boreal prism
Even then you might rather be one shotting things
sweet frigate
Pressing 2 buttons instead of 1 button Aint that bad for some free stuff
Damage control is definitely much kinder than Calisthenics
steel gorge
how do you use hera effectively
mild raft
you click the cast button then you click the fire button
lucid kelp
Best build for extreme measure?
steel gorge
you click the cast button then you click the fire button
this is what I do but what do you do while your casts are stuck in the enemy
mild raft
Kill them
steel gorge
do you just have to shoot and shoot until your casts drop out
mild raft
Having a good cast makes that easier
mild raft
get something like Aphrodite Cast and most enemies just die before you have to worry about not having your cast
boreal prism
Yeah aphro cast deals big damidge
steel gorge
oh maybe I should have gone for that
boreal prism
Or you take stygian soul dio cast
steel gorge
are there any fun builds for demeter fists other than merciful end
mild raft
There's the age old ZAP
Zeus attack
Artemis special
Poseidon dash
You could also throw Aphrodite on special and go with Zeus, Ares, or Dio on attack and build their respective duos (with Dire Misfortune for Ares)
steel gorge
right now I'm just grinding for darkness so I can get another fated persuasion
so not doing the same thing over and over would be nice
sterile fiber
Is it worth getting Blown Kiss on DC2 Rama just for the range?
mild raft
I mean you can just use special to clear dc
sterile fiber
And hit exactly twice?
jovial fulcrum
Special again if it doesn't clear all the DC 🤷♂️
bronze marten
I believe my record is around 33 mins
maybe try to get 0 heat with all weapons first - will give you some blood to play with and unlock new aspects, plus some more experience - TD1 is basically free once you have a few wins under your belt
proper furnace
ig il ask here, does MM affects the em4 summons (and same for BP and normal dad)
raw blade
idts
bronze marten
ig il ask here, does MM affects the em4 summons (and same for BP and normal dad)
yep
acoustic vale
Exit wounds Posideon Aspect is good combo, yes?
proper furnace
Is nice but most of your damage will come out of the cast itself (normal enemies will probably die before using it) and bosses you will simply do more damage with the cast
acoustic vale
Well yeah, but it's free damage lol
sterile fiber
it's fun with Hera and the Hermes boon that makes them drop casts faster
cunning urchin
are there any fun builds for demeter fists other than merciful end
I wrote a guide for the aspect that has a bunch of builds you can try out. 
#h1-builds-and-combat message
steel gorge
oh cool! thanks
cunning urchin
Well yeah, but it's free damage lol
With a strong Cast build, it's usually zero damage in normal encounters because your Casts already kill enemies and maybe some damage vs bosses. But you can also end up phasing bosses too fast for Exit Wounds to get a chance to proc.
stone sandal
If I use the keepsake that gives you bonus damage for clearing a room without taking damage do I keep the bonus when I swap it out?
boreal prism
nop
stone sandal
Ight bet thank you
plain quartz
Has every combination of 2 gods a duo boon? I playing now 20 runs and I saw only 1 duo in my runs
acoustic vale
They're very rare
raw blade
there are some pre requisites that need to be met before you have a chance of seeing them
proven osprey
Yeah every god has a duo with another one, except for chaos and Hermes
Their powers varies a lot
lucid oar
As you unlock more of the mirror, it becomes much easier to obtain duo boons
raw blade
is there a zeus and ares duo?
lucid oar
Yes
proven osprey
Yes
proven osprey
It's vengeful mood
lucid oar
The revenge one
raw blade
oh yeah that
lucid oar
Makes all your revenge effects tick every 3s
proven osprey
Deadly reversal
plain quartz
Ok thank you guys. I understand the game. But with the boons and right combinations of them is really complex. Is there a good guide for strong builds and the combinations?
proven osprey
never even seen this boon
Because divine dash is not a requirement, it's a bit hard to get
lucid oar
Fast attacks: flat damage (Zeus/Ares/Dionysus)
Slow attacks: % damage (Artemis/Aphrodite/Athena/Demeter/Poseidon)
lucid oar
That's the basics of how to know good combinations
raw blade
astaos mad typin
proven osprey
Lmao
raw blade
bruh
proven osprey
It's just that you need specifically divine strike or flourish combined with either Artemis attack special cast or call. That seems a lot but you usually don't want her cast nor call
So you invest quite a lot for a duo that's neat but not as powerful as some others
lucid oar
Not a fan of it
proven osprey
It's fine once pommed, and it's always an iframe that's quickly charged up
raw blade
im not a fan of single targetting calls either but big damage so yes
proven osprey
But if you want speed you don't want it yeah
acoustic vale
I used it a few times but stopped when it targeted random tiny minions instead of Hades every time
proven osprey
Yeah you have to clear everything
Similar to Aphrodite's
Because God the aiming is awful
Sometimes you'll be at melee range with a foe you want to charm but nope, the call is gonna get over it
lucid oar
Heard it's good at high heat, the 61 heat clear uses it
raw blade
the greater call is huge
proven osprey
It applies chill, good enough to survive
raw blade
half the room
acoustic vale
My personal favorite calls are Athena and then Ares
raw blade
i dont like ares call all that much
im not a fan of calls which hinder your ability to attack
like pos and ares
acoustic vale
I get this ever growing feeling I'm a bit majorly unconventional with my preferred things
proven osprey
It's Athena but worse, unless you build around blades
lucid oar
Poseidon's call is decent, Ares' is just bad imo
raw blade
ares is good if you have the leggie
lucid oar
Zeus and Dio are the best for DPS generally
acoustic vale
It's Athena but worse, unless you build around blades
This is also true
proven osprey
Yeah. The base damage is sad and you don't really control your exit out of it
So you can get hit
proven osprey
That will only matter at higher heats though
acoustic vale
I just like things that make me not able to die lol. Posideon's is hard to control so I don't like it as much
proven osprey
You're on kbm?
acoustic vale
Yes
raw blade
pos on kbm is balls
proven osprey
Yeah I can see that
acoustic vale
Okay. Good to know it's not just me being bad
raw blade
there really should be a chaos call lol
50% more damage taken for +100% dmg dealt or sumn
some maim stuff
terse sphinx
If I sell a blessing that gave me a duo, does the duo vanish or can I regain a blessing later for the duo to work?
edgy mauve
If I sell a blessing that gave me a duo, does the duo vanish or can I regain a b...
u can regain it later
terse sphinx
Good to know
proven osprey
The duo will work too. But if it's merciful end and you have no way to deflect, well rip
solar dawn
How does flurry jab affect dash strikes? It kind of looks like it makes the spear dash and normal attack within the dash
lucid oar
Yeah you just hit stuff really often
It's why it's so OP
Don't know the specifics, but it's similar to what you said
rigid imp
Anyone else feel like Artemis just isn't worth?
Like if you majorly invest it's kinda middle of the road, and it totally lacks in synergy?
cunning urchin
Crits scale mainly with Hunter's Mark, Heart Rend, and Chaos boons.
And good % hammers.
solar dawn
She has really good duos too
fresh lake
proper furnace
artemis or aphro in the attack for big numbers
athena if you want big stick reflecting everything
and if you want memes you can also do it for backstab
gaunt ivy
started a nemesis run, already have divine dash and deadly strike
should i take ares or dionysus next? neither seem to fit in super well
solar dawn
If you're in tartarus strong drink from Dio can be nice
prime island
survey, best cast for peosidon sword that frees stones on special?
edgy mauve
phalanx shot works nice on it as well with lightning phalanx/mirage shot
prime island
ohhhh forgot about about aphro!
theres a duo cast of zeus and athena?
what it do?
edgy mauve
basically makes phalanx shot zeus cast
prime island
do all the chains have phalanx effect of deflect?
edgy mauve
i mean its the same cast so it should
prime island
350 hrs on my steam file and i never got that combo lol
edgy mauve
do all the chains have phalanx effect of deflect?
lightning phalanx doesnt make multiple casts just makes phalanx shot bounce
prime island
so like shield throw where it hits up to x amount of enemies?
proper furnace
ye
edgy mauve
ye
prime island
noice, could be a pretty cool shennanigan build
finding it real hard to not just hunt for poseidon stacks on stacks though lol. I got a taste of a perfect build before my game crashed yesterday and it was so glorious. idk if I want anything else ever again hahaa
edgy mauve
finding it real hard to not just hunt for poseidon stacks on stacks though lol. ...
but did the perfect run have epic RD
proper furnace
you can do a yo-yo build with poseidon special and talos aspect of the fists if you want something fun
prime island
thats the magnetic one right
proper furnace
yup
prime island
yeah I can see that being pretty fun
edgy mauve
i havent seen epic rd in so long 😦
proper furnace
rd being rush delivery?
edgy mauve
yeah
prime island
my run was on og spear, but dadelus special change to the shot, with all the poseidon boons. and epic hermes special speed, it was insane.
edgy mauve
so no rd 😦
prime island
then the stupid game crashed on a boss fight and i lost it all
rush delivery being what? Im sure ive seen it but its not ringing a bell
proper furnace
bonus movement speed is added as bonus damage
prime island
ohhhh gotcha
proper furnace
common being 50% and epic 100%
edgy mauve
its 50% global damage at the least with hyper sprint
proper furnace
and i think heroic is 125%?
prime island
dang, something to look for lol. probably would pair filthy with aurthur
lucid oar
It's amazing on every aspect
edgy mauve
its fine with arthur
just dash during ur long animations and active hyper sprint
or just dash strike
prime island
oh yeah, dash strike with the spear mod for the dash attack could be fun too
prime island
the multi hit dash attack for shorter dash range
proper furnace
for something like hera/beo does the extra damage as long you dash before it hits?
edgy mauve
flurry is way better
unique jetty
Somebody know a good chaos shield build?
edgy mauve
thunder flourish start is the most popular one
proper furnace
serrated is fine still but yeah, flurry is better
edgy mauve
aim for jolted
edgy mauve
the multi hit dash attack for shorter dash range
FLURRY IS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER
prime island
what was the effect of that one again? I usually go for the multi hit one tbh haha
edgy mauve
u can hold attack and ur strikes are way faster
proper furnace
no spin but you can hold attack for quick jabs
lucid oar
Can't spin attack but attack is faster
prime island
ahhh right
lucid oar
It's worth losing the spin
edgy mauve
10000% worth losing rhe spin
prime island
ill make it a point to grab that one up next time i run spear. im in the new game mode of picking all fated choices over my personal prefrence until i clear those checklists
lucid oar
That's not bad at all, the rewards will help you in the long run
edgy mauve
yeah
prime island
for sure, i had it all on my steam file, but im starting fresh on ps5, so the list is afresh lol
chrome ridge
So, I got the Chiron aspect up to lvl 4. Can anyone suggest some decent builds?
proper furnace
Dio/artemis on special then aphro on attack and aim for rspective duos
Dio wants lot of poms and artemis more special damage from chaos is great
Ares special with dire misfortune can be fun too
chrome ridge
thx
edgy mauve
gods keepsake and boon rng
generally think of a build u wanna go for
and then force those gods in tart in asphodel to get that build going
edgy mauve
uh
turbid needle
But bow is honestly kinda boring
edgy mauve
what weapon do u wanna try out?
edgy mauve
have u ever considered going for Merciful End
turbid needle
I have had it once
sharp sinew
Best hammer for Rama?
edgy mauve
Best hammer for Rama?
triple or twin shot
edgy mauve
u cant get triple and twin at the same time
edgy mauve
doesnt matter
edgy mauve
just dont take anything that actively harms u
sharp sinew
👋 back to playing gotcha
edgy mauve
I have had it once
for sword and fists u do doom on attack athena special BEFORE athena on dash and then u get ME
u need special before dash because dash isnt a prereq
ior
if u want a less frustrating build to go for when athena scams you
u can try crit
Heart rend is good
boreal prism
Explosive shot rama is risky but it hits sooooo hard
edgy mauve
arty attack is poggies on sword more specifically nemesis and hunters dash is p nice on fists
for sword u want artemis attack and aphrodite on special or dash if aphrodite on special u can go for artemis on dash
for fists just hunters dash works great
acoustic vale
I have had it once
Do you have the hidden sword aspect?
You know, it occurs to me that 10 levels of chill is exactly equal to max forced overtime
acoustic vale
I see
edgy mauve
i think what i listed should help
acoustic vale
I'm running some experimental builds, if I find anything that seems worth mentioning, I'll mention it lol
I will mention that this is 10th or so run in a row where Ares showed up, which is sad because none of them were runs where he's super helpful
proper furnace
you can always go for ME if anything 
acoustic vale
That would require me to get an exchange lol
slender drum
Ive heard people say gilgamesh is bad, why is that? It doesnt seem terrible to me
strange lark
Attacks are clunky, dash strikes deal no damage, your dashes are shortened for some reason, your special is slow and buffs enemies, and the doom from maim takes way too long to activate
acoustic vale
Ive heard people say gilgamesh is bad, why is that? It doesnt seem terrible to m...
they're cowards
slender drum
Attacks are clunky, dash strikes deal no damage, your dashes are shortened for s...
I didint know that each individual dash is shortened, which feels weird , i guess i just thought the 50% damage would make up for it being slower
slender drum
they're cowards
Lol
acoustic vale
I didint know that each individual dash is shortened, which feels weird , i gues...
My advice, switch from greater reflex to the other one, the one boosts your damage on a near miss, with three mini dashses you're getting the near miss quite a lot
edgy mauve
I didint know that each individual dash is shortened, which feels weird , i gues...
maim literally makes them deal 50% more damage to you so it doesnt make up for it at all
slender drum
isint it 25% more damage to you but 50% to enemys?
strange lark
25% to enemies and 50% to you
acoustic vale
Consider: With heartbreak strike/whatever the special is and colossus knuckle, it's free damage. One of the experimental builds I'm gonna be messing with
slender drum
oh no its the other way around, damn yeah that seems worse now
acoustic vale
Also consider: It's really fun, even if you don't use maim
boreal prism
It is a fun aspect, as long as you don't expect it to be as strong as other aspects
acoustic vale
Yeah, it's nowhere near the best aspect out there, but imo not all the hate it gets is deserved. Like people say the attacks are clunky, but I've always had much more problem with Arthur's attack
boreal prism
All the hidden aspects are big downside big upside
acoustic vale
indeed
boreal prism
So they're either the best or the worst
slender drum
I can see it being fun and ill still use it from time to time, just wanted to know why people dont like it
acoustic vale
Do Nemesis crit chance and Artemis crit chance stack
proper furnace
yup
boreal prism
Yeah works really well together
terse thistle
Ice wine is pretty darn good sometimes
sterile fiber
What's the Eris speedrun heat again? EM2 FO2 TD1?
chrome ridge
Playing Chiron bow and got a really good chaos deal. +1 death defiance or +45% special damage?
proper furnace
if you feel like you would need the extra dd go for it ig
also what are you using in special?
chrome ridge
Dionysus. So the damage wouldn't be that good eh?
proper furnace
would be neat but yeah no needed
acoustic vale
I've currently got a +67% crit chance on my attack assuming the crit stacking is additive like most things in Hades seem to be
proper furnace
yeah crit chance is additive
acoustic vale
I should put more poms into these things and get crit chance even higher
chrome ridge
So I finally unlock excalibur. I reckon artemis on attack is good for those big chunky numbers?
chrome ridge
aight
proper furnace
Also small tip with arthur
You can dash beetween your swings of the combo
chrome ridge
oh thats good to know
plain quartz
I got one question because of Duo boons. When I choose 3 boons of 3 different gods (Maybe Artemis/dynosus/Ares) can I get duo boons too? Or only when I choose 2 gods?
proven osprey
privileged status or family favorite
Family favorite because it's always active and by asphodel you're generally at 25%
I don't understand your question RogueNBA
acoustic vale
I got one question because of Duo boons. When I choose 3 boons of 3 different go...
Duo boons require certain boons from each deity, number of deities is irrelevant
proven osprey
A duo requires boons from 2 different gods, every duo has specific requirements
acoustic vale
So yes, you can get duo boons with 3 gods
valid prism
If you have the required boons yes
Codex is useful for that during the run
And with 3 gods chances could be better to make at least 1 duo boon appear if you have the conditions
terse sphinx
Hey, I’m about to get my first aspect, what all would y’all suggest?
acoustic vale
Hidden or regular?
terse sphinx
Too late, I picked Achilles
lucid oar
Achilles is very strong, not a bad choice at all
proven osprey
Nyooooom
It did not strike me as very strong at first (it was pre buff too)
But the ability to move was just super fun to me
edgy mauve
What's the Eris speedrun heat again? EM2 FO2 TD1?
em2 fo2 td1 REMOVES a free room that stops the IGT
cunning urchin
You take TD for RTA but turn it off for IGT.
misty sun
What would be good for ||Gilgamesh?||?
edgy mauve
What would be good for ||Gilgamesh?||?
not playing the aspect
proven osprey
Dash builds with ruthless reflex are fun
Tidal dash for pure efficiency, thunder or blade dash for the fun scaling (but weaker early game)
valid prism
Tidal + rupture are okay to clear a run, poms are very good on the dash
Zeus dash is less dps but fun once you have enough boons and you don't have to be very precise to aim foes
proven osprey
Also : zaaap
It's fun because you can get double strike, jolted, high voltage, splitting bolt
Another way to go for it would be tidal start and find sea storm + the aforementioned zeus boons. That way you'll have a strong early but it requires more Zeus, it's not reliable but super fun
chrome ridge
I wanna try the rama aspect, but I have no idea which boons are good. Any suggestions?
solar dawn
Hangover on special is good, aphro/Arti/Athena on attack too.
You can do aphro special and Arti attack for heart rend, or passion dash if you want hangover on special
Athena attack for defence more
valid prism
Bow main trick is being used to dash strike most of the time whatever the aspect
And from that, having artemis on atk and dash works a charm
delicate tusk
The Beo+curse of longing interaction is pretty sweet
Turns zag into a short range nuke that obliterates health
opaque hare
And from that, having artemis on atk and dash works a charm
artemis on dash? hmm
solar dawn
Since you're gonna be dash striking almost the entire time, having a bonus to dash strike damage is really nice
valid prism
Yeah, technically speaking you want to do the more powershots possible. But normal powershots are long to charge so using dash strike allows you to do more powershots because they are faster to charge (even if they are a bit weaker than the normal ones)
That's why artemis' dash is a very good boon on bow