#h1-discussion

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slim geyser
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cool

polar quail
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I won my first attempt on 32 against dad though

slim geyser
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actually its more like 3 because i went afk for a second and forgot to pause and one of those crystals got me

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but yeah 32 is p annoying

polar quail
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I find it pretty fair actually

polar quail
mint ember
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deadly strike doesnt add crit chance to dash strike does it

mint coral
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It does

coral condor
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I got a food reward on a fresh file playthrough. How does this happen?

signal aspen
coral condor
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Ahhhh

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Ty

slim geyser
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honestly i might not do 32 heat
at least rn
im just not enjoying it at all, it seems like a useless challenge

mint coral
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Understandable

coral condor
slim geyser
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eh ive tried that

coral condor
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Have you tried again? Uwu

proud pilot
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damn made 3 try on 32 heats, im getting closer but not yet ! The 2 firsts i lost because of time in elisyum and the last died against dad start of his 2nd phase. Its doable but if not all the stars are aligned their is still something to stop me ^^

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next tries i'll do them with a weapon i know more. Never rly played Rama before those 32 heats runs ^^

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but destroying a whole room with a big crit arrow is fun :p

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btw i agree, arte attack/zeus special is working rly well

gusty raptor
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I always wondered why isn't there an achievement for upgrading all of the weapon aspects?

spare tiger
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Wait, Bastion is on switch?

void vigil
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you mean maxing them out? Probably because it takes a lot of grinding and playtime, much more than maxing all the keepsakes for example

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yeah, it is :) all supergiant games are with the exception of pyre

crude surge
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poor pyre tizozzz

high island
high island
formal zenith
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finally beat hades and the games kinda stuck this suppose to happen?

gray apex
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If you mean the screen where it highlights boons yea

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That’s your victory screen

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You can exit out of it and move on

formal zenith
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it got stuck inbetween text for a couple minutes its fine now

dense raven
formal zenith
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does tabbing out bug dialogue?

gray apex
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It should just pause it

proud pilot
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I did it !

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Heat 32 cleared !

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damn that's so satisfying

ocean ruin
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me out here struggling on 1 heat

formal zenith
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I just finally ran through the first time lol

timber whale
formal zenith
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yeah that heat mechanic is going to give me ours of content

timber whale
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Hey proxy shut up

ocean ruin
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i underestimated the content after you beat the game for the first time

proud pilot
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^^

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their is so much to do

formal zenith
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are there more unlockables other than items from the gods?

ocean ruin
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i decided to never watch any hades related content before beating the game

formal zenith
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^^ did the same thing was worth it

brisk quiver
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that bottom row in the keepsakes box

ocean ruin
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yea

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i recently beat the game

timber whale
ocean ruin
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got all the 1 heat bounties on some weapons

formal zenith
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i still need to start using other weapons

brisk quiver
formal zenith
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i like to blade toom uch to put it down

ocean ruin
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the health gain hammer on sword is so good

formal zenith
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really nice. If i could ever get athena call with it i think it would be a free run

brisk quiver
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can u relax?

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its just a bot its not that serious

ocean ruin
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im scared for the day when i have to do the 32 heat run

gray apex
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It wont be too bad when you get to that point

timber whale
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I maxed out charon and it didn't do anything

brisk quiver
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so try to max out other characters aswell

ocean ruin
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i still havent defeated charon once

gray apex
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It’s only for certain characters not everyone

timber whale
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I thought i would at least get some discounts

ocean ruin
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just yesterday i got all the basic 18 aspects

timber whale
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I have a TON of extra ambrosia

gray apex
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6 left

ocean ruin
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yea

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wait no 5 left

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i have the 4th spear i forgot

timber whale
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I just maxed out the zag aspect for the sword

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For skellys quest

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What a troll

ocean ruin
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i love skelly

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he gave pog keepsake

brisk quiver
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seriously?

ocean ruin
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me too

proud pilot
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be carefull, mods dont like when we evade the "anti swear protection"

timber whale
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Oooohhhh i made a swear

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Im tellingggggt

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Lmfao so lame

brisk quiver
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bro youre welcome to leave if you dont like it

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lool

timber whale
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Aight bye

brisk quiver
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aight cya

formal zenith
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it was never this deep funny though.

ocean ruin
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i will probably never turn on the time limit thing on pact

proud pilot
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you will trust me 😉

brisk quiver
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yea time limit honestly seems stressful

ocean ruin
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whatever game i play, whenever i am on a timer, i play bad

gray apex
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It’s worth a lot of heat

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Just takes some practice

ocean ruin
proud pilot
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yeah

formal zenith
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Btw i still have no idea what this prophecy thing does for boons anyone know?

ocean ruin
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rn i play on 1 or 2 heat depending on weapon

devout terrace
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53 secondsresidentzag

ocean ruin
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i turn on the boss has more moves thingy

proud pilot
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wow ^^

devout terrace
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One acorn charge leftzagluv

gray apex
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It’s just picking up those boons

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Same for hammers

proud pilot
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those times are rly impressive

formal zenith
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ohh so i just need to pick them up to complete the tasks?

gray apex
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ye

gray apex
proud pilot
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finaly with that heat farming i managed to buy the last level of fated persuasion ^^

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my whole mirror is maxed, except fated authority that i never upgraded xd

gray apex
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It’s mostly for meme runs anyway

proud pilot
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yeah ^^'

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wow 11k darkness needed to max it

devout terrace
proud pilot
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alr i'll take a break, been playing for maybe 14hours non stop..

devout terrace
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Not that good for RI0 gaming

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The double strikes poms are pure value though

gray apex
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Id just be happy to see another Zeus besides my Special

devout terrace
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When is your 55 mirrorlessresidentzag

gray apex
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Never

brisk quiver
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hey how is the hades aid keepsake?

gray apex
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It’s very good for speedrunning

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Doesn’t see any use in high heat

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Hades keepsake is worded pretty badly in the game

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It gives you movement speed and global damage for 2 seconds

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And makes enemies repeat their last move

brisk quiver
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how is that last one useful?

gray apex
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Hades can darkness in the first phase which wastes time, if you time your call well you can get him to delay that just enough for you to phase him

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It’s not something you do often but it’s pretty good when it goes right, the global damage and mvt speed is kind of the big deal

hearty mural
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Is 2 secs the half or full call

gray apex
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Lesser call is 2 sec

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Full call is 5

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If you use a lesser call and attack afterwards you lose the movement speed but global damage stays for the whole 2 seconds

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It’s usually supposed to be the extra burst you need to phase him

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Like you use it then throw a clockets volley so it gets boosted

broken cradle
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im running with Arthur Sword rn (my new favourite aspect lol)
and the first boon i get is Poseidon with a choice of 3 knockback boons, which all seem to antisynergize with any attack based playstyle

whats a build i should go for if i have to take knockback?

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(im being offered rare attack, epic special and rare dash)

mint coral
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If poseidon is offering cast is orobably the one that hurts the least

broken cradle
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nah he isnt

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is poseidon that bad? 😂

mint coral
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Nah he is good

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Mainly dash/cast tho

broken cradle
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i can pick dash

last veldt
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On Arthur it's a bit sub par though

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Yeah, dash

broken cradle
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yeah it really feels like a bad combo

last veldt
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Aim for Aphrodite on attack

mint coral
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Also what keeosake you started?

last veldt
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Always start with Aphrodite with Arthur

broken cradle
broken cradle
mint coral
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Ye

last veldt
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Yeah

mint coral
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Also double dip on dmg reduction

broken cradle
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fair point
last 2 runs i got lucky and got the heal on attack hammer upgrade + a bunch of hp to sustain it

mint coral
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Cursed slash arthur ron

broken cradle
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what gods should i hunt for when going with poseidon?

last veldt
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Then go Artemis special and look for Heart Rend and Hunter's Mark

broken cradle
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i see

mint coral
last veldt
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That's of you have Aphrodite attack

mint coral
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Dash helps with aspects that struggle with aoe

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Same goes for cast if paired with breaking wave

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Poseidon is the king of destroying styx

broken cradle
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interesting 🤔

i tend to struggle the most in elysium

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especially with the shield guys

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and theseus :^)

mint coral
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Knocback stuff still works for them

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Just less efficient cuz walls not being so close

broken cradle
mint coral
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Slap things with big sword

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Do big dmg

broken cradle
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the classic way, i see 😂

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wouldnt artemis call make more sense then?

mint coral
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Arthur generating call sucks

broken cradle
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im still undecided if i like it or hate it
feels like a nuke against bosses but the charge time is awful

mint coral
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If you want a call get zeus for smoldering air

broken cradle
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i see
i often go athena or aphrodite call bc they tend to be run winning against clutch boss fights

mint coral
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Is fine if you can charge it quick but arthur slow hits dont help

polar quail
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What’s your favorite sword aspect? I’ve only cleared with it once and I might play it more eventually

broken cradle
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got the hammer
is hoarding ever good? 😂
i have 360g rn

mint coral
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Hoarding slash is barely noticed

broken cradle
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could go breaching slash or supernova instead

mint coral
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Breaching prob

lone kernel
broken cradle
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ah true, it relies on hitting a lot

polar quail
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For mirror prophecy, what are good reasons to take ruthless reflex, abyssal blood, Stygian soul, golden touch, Olympian favor, and fated authority over the alternatives?

mint coral
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Ruthless is fine in shields/gilgamesh
Abyssal just run it once on low heat/stygian for casts that stays on field (trippy/meme beam)

placid storm
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Isnt gilgamesh a fist aspect

polar quail
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Gilgamesh is fists

placid storm
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regardless I think the most fun for me is Zag Sword just bc increased attack speed enables so much jank
best overall is probably nemesis, though? crits are busted as usual

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you can basically just hunt down aphro attack and heart rend and boom ez game

brisk quiver
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I never really play sword tbh unless it's Poseidon and arthur

polar quail
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the 15 keys for titan blood deal at the broker is too good

feral belfry
lone kernel
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y’all I’m seeing hadestown on Broadway tomorrow

oak ibex
slim geyser
lone kernel
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the sword that i use when i die then choose a different weapon Zulda

twin thistle
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nem is cool

feral belfry
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Nem

proud pilot
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I just got a controller for Hades ^^. Dont know if it will be better, i've always been a keyboard&mouse player ^^

slim geyser
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i like the controller

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not like i have a choice because xbox but its nice

proud pilot
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^^

signal aspen
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the game recommends you use a controller but its mostly personal preference

proud pilot
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yep, i think ill need a few runs to get used to it

twin thistle
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imagine being unable to backwards dash on controller residentzag

proud pilot
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ahah

proud pilot
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omg its so weird

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their is a chance i'll stay with my keyboard xD

tribal sleet
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i like olaying on keyboard

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playing

wary mural
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Yay quad athena in styx

maiden crown
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just pre ordered the nendoroid zagreus cant wait to see it in person 😄

proud pilot
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oh nice ! Post a pic when u get it 😄

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Ah now i should be able to get Aphro favor. Cerberus will be the last and it will be complete 🙂

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Oh ok i watched on the wiki how to get cerberus favor

mint coral
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Surprised you got cerb as the last

proud pilot
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i guess i didnt pet him enough lol

polar quail
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i'm still waiting on dusa's dialogue for aphrodite's favor bouldy

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she keeps saying the same stuff

proud pilot
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You gifted her all the ambrosia?

polar quail
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she's at full hearts but i didn't get her bond forged icon yet

proud pilot
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yeah you will get it soon i think

slim geyser
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cerb was my third

safe shoal
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why is there no apollo?

feral belfry
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Cause

brisk trail
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mfw chaos says i cant give him gifts anymore

proud pilot
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damn, another close try with Rama for that 32 heat. Fists were so easier for me. But im using another strat that seems better (thanks Tailesque ^^), i removed DC, switched to fiery presence , and dash striking on ennemies make tons of dmgs with arte attack. As im now better to hit my power shots, it works well

hearty mural
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Ok this may be a silly question but if I have RI4 can Athena offer last stand/other DD boon and does it give me a dd?

proud pilot
polar quail
proud pilot
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yeah after too many fail its hard to still get focus ^^

polar quail
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not sure if i should just switch to doing shield 32 heat and do fists after

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i might do that yeah

devout terrace
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blood frenzy from ares is also not eligible when mirrorless

slim geyser
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gonna try a eris 32 again
and if that doesn’t work i’ll switch to rama

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might just try em4 for the hell of it

feral belfry
burnt cobalt
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hi hi!

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who do I DM to report spam

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all good DM'd :)

polar quail
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My long term goals for the game are 32 heat with all aspects

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And sub 10 minutes with all weapons

feral belfry
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Enjoy the zag sword

polar quail
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How bad is it

feral belfry
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Bad bad

polar quail
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What’s the effect

feral belfry
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Bonus attack speed and movement speed

polar quail
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Oh that’s lame

feral belfry
polar quail
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Guan yu oughta be a fun challenge

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Never used it

slim geyser
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im not a fan of guan yu

polar quail
slim geyser
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mostly

feral belfry
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Pretty hammer dependent

oak ibex
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God, it took me forever to get the hang of guan yu

polar quail
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gonna do a few more attempts at 32 heat today.

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this time with aspect of beowulf

feral belfry
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Beo comfy

polar quail
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yup I levelled beo to 4

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i'm going to try flood shot + mirage shot this time since i did passion flare the first time

crude surge
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GY comfy if you get charged skewer

slim geyser
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em3seus i hope you cease
usually im fine with that fight but not today

polar quail
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I’m pretty bad at that fight

coral condor
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I thought nemsis sword was the only aspect, whoops

slim geyser
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mmmm yknow dying a million times can kind of break your motive a little bit

feral belfry
slim geyser
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but eh im having fun with 32 heat

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its just annoying now

feral belfry
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Mess around with the pact

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Switch aspects

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I went with a non meta pact for all 32s

solemn quail
slim geyser
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oh here we go i finally got a build i dont hate

tribal sleet
solemn quail
strong ridge
tribal sleet
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em theseus is fun w gilgamesh

solemn quail
solemn quail
tribal sleet
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i got ares’ dash and +4 dashes from hermes and it was fun

strong ridge
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circle gaming

tribal sleet
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beyblade

solemn quail
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I kinda stopped playing Hades

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Kinda got a bit old for me

slim geyser
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that moment when you get offered 3 boons you desperately need and you can get one bouldy

feral belfry
slim geyser
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died to dad

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how do i learn the lyre btw? orpheus has only given me one lesson

kindred silo
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Id say just play it once before every run

feral belfry
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I think it takes a while

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RNG doing that a lot

tribal sleet
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then youve gotta talk to orpheus and stuff to get the prophecy

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well i Have 120 runs, im not sure when i got the lyre but yeah

slim geyser
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alr

compact spear
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tf is charon more difficult than [redacted]

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Did not expect him to kick my ass that hard

slim geyser
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i mean sort of yes?

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i have not been able to beat charon o n c e

versed mason
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he hits hard but really predictably

runic parrot
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his attack patterns are easy but you dont get to practice it a lot since he only shows up once in a wile

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once you understand how his patterns work youll be able to dodge it most of the time

slim geyser
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does leveling moms keepsake reduce the number of chambers it takes to level a boon or does it give more levels

lone kernel
runic parrot
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the former

slim geyser
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not bad
and thank you for screaming at me more i will

lone kernel
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Im not screaming simply reminding

slim geyser
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oh no i mean that jokingly

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thats what i used originally lol

lone kernel
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Word

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Yeah I don’t do yelling

narrow hemlock
feral belfry
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when ap1 stops you from getting epic rush delivery when you have hyper sprint

thorn gust
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give us an approval process 3 pact dusa

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gives 1 extra heat dusa

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now that I think about it, if AP3 existed, the boon menu probably wouldnt even pop up and zag would probably have some funny lines about skipping the boon completely

steady mica
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i killed meg no hit :D

chrome wharf
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owo

slim geyser
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finally completed dusa’s favor lets go

brisk trail
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SPOILERS AHEAD ON THE HOUSE CONTRACTOR:

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||im attempting to get to the unseen one rank in hades any tips on getting more darkness i do no heat runs (so i can get darkness each boss), i try to get both chaos eclipse boons but normally get one and i get ocean bounty each time i can tho its not a lot and once i get all 3 i normally get around 2000 darkness but i kinda need more if each one is now 5,000 and above||

high island
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Just play a lot, pretty much.

brisk trail
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yeah, that's the tiring part... I do

high island
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It's gonna be a long grind if you're just grinding for Darkness. It's not really designed as something you grind for specifically but more a resource sink for players with hundreds of hours in the game.

brisk trail
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damn it

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seriously i'm trying to see if there's a strategy or a keepsake i can use that helps with it but apparently no

high island
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Not sure why you said "both" Eclipse boons btw. You can get more than two even.

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But pretty much just the strategy you've been doing would be the best way to farm Darkness.

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Also just general speedrun strats to clear faster, I suppose.

last veldt
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The most I've had is about 4000 darkness in a run. And I don't think I could have got any luckier.

slim geyser
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out of pure curiosity whats your favorite giving nectar to the gods (or anyone) quote

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mine is

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Zagreus "My lady Artemis, your favor's been invaluable to me. No finer huntress ever walked the surface of the earth, or underneath."
Artemis "You're being very nice to me, and that makes me suspicious, understand? So you want more of that, you keep this up."

broken cradle
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does the triple jab hammer upgrade (3 strikes in spread pattern) work well with guan yu spin attack?

twin thistle
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does nothing for the spin

broken cradle
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good to know!

gray apex
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Does nothing for dash-strikes either

broken cradle
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ohh thats interesting 🤔

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and weird tbh xD

last veldt
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Artemis is best awkward grrrrl.

vital sparrow
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whats the easiest pact of punisment condition level 1

gray apex
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EM1 or TD1

vital sparrow
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yeah ok

gentle tundra
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is game worth on switch if i have it on pc

mint coral
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If you want it to play on the road

last veldt
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Controller on Switch is a bit more awkward.

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Exact same game though.

iron oyster
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I beat him, but barely, since he used up all 3 of my DDs and left me on 5 hp

lone kernel
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@fast sluice nectar

last veldt
lone kernel
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@slim geyser nectar reminder

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wait oops I already did that

tribal sleet
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i am madly in love with charon

wary mural
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Gguuuuugh

cerulean cipher
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couple days ago when I killed Meg she went "Keep... going..." as she died 👀

cerulean cipher
# gentle tundra is game worth on switch if i have it on pc

I would say yes, but a couple things - you can carry progress between Switch and PC if you have it on Steam or Epic (not Game Pass/MS Store/any other console). Also, I would strongly recommend not using the built-in joy cons in handheld mode on the Switch. At the very least, get a Hori Split Pad Pro or a grip like the Satisfye

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Without a grip, the Switch is really uncomfortable to play for long sessions. Especially on fast-paced games like Hades. The performance is mostly good but it occasionally chugs especially on chaotic fights like witches circle or anything high heat

lone kernel
cerulean cipher
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I think the Steam Deck would be the perfect Hades device. Bigger screen than the Switch, faster so less slowdown, bigger and more comfortable grips. Just a matter of actually getting one

slim geyser
polar quail
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dusa hurry up and get the option to give me my ambrosia back

chrome wharf
slim geyser
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i’m just saying i wish tisiphone’s speech lessons continued past zagreus
i want to teach her a sentence damn it 😔

devout terrace
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daily reminder that Artemis is the best god in hades dusa

slim geyser
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fact

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but consider: Lady Aphrodite

tribal sleet
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its charon

slim geyser
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he’s not a god i don’t think
but i’m also madly in love with charon

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charon: god of boats

grizzled sonnet
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Ah dude, I was so close to beating Hades

slim geyser
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f

grizzled sonnet
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I got down to the last half of the bossfight then I ran out of death defies

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I might do like 2 more runs today

slim geyser
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wrong

proud pilot
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hi there o/

lone kernel
proud pilot
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Finaly back home, dont know if i continue tryharding Rama of if i try cleaning 32 heats with another weap. Was thinking to go with Gilga but my first clear was with Zag Fists so would be cool to go for another weap. Maybe Nemesis, its a fun aspect

tribal sleet
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he is nyxs son so id assume so

slim geyser
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oh wait he is yeah

grizzled sonnet
tribal sleet
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hes the love of my life tho guys

lone kernel
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@slim geyser charon says give nectar out

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also drink water

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everyone drink water

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high heat leads to faster dehydration

grizzled sonnet
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okay, best daedalus upgrade?

signal aspen
slim geyser
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what weapon

grizzled sonnet
tribal sleet
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based !

slim geyser
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what options

grizzled sonnet
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it doesn't matter what aspect

signal aspen
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double edge is the best sword hammer

grizzled sonnet
signal aspen
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maybe thanthink

lone kernel
thorn gust
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I wonder how charon feels whenever you complete a run or die while having thousands on obols on you

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like hoarding slash gamers

signal aspen
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name one hoarding slash gamer

grizzled sonnet
gray apex
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No hoarding slash gamers only memers here

thorn gust
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at least its not like some other games where you can cast stuff using $$ as a fuel source

devout terrace
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I AM the hoarding slash gamer

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also ananke's 6:43 nem had 1500 gold with hoarding slash

thorn gust
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"charon's aid: drains all your obols and does extra damage based on how many obols got burned in the process"

signal aspen
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hey thats me

devout terrace
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90% gold bonus chaos on that run

thorn gust
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it feels like hoarding thousands of currency in one step from eden and then one-shotting everything with sera(money) cannon

tacit nimbus
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Darkness costs for fated persuation are absolutely ludicrous.

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2 charges is 2000 darkness

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I feel like doom is kind of weak. It doesn't scale much, and never stacks.

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it's great for really low attack rate like adamant rail special

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but other than that, eh.

twin thistle
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its has great pom scaling, more upfront damage than most other attacks, and merciful end is one of the strongest boons in the game

tacit nimbus
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it scales well?

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I forgot what mercifull end is.

twin thistle
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deflect triggers doom instantly

tacit nimbus
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Oh boy.

strong ridge
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it benefits a lot from rarity for the scaling but yea

tacit nimbus
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mix with athena dash

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so doom and athena is a powerfull mix?

twin thistle
#

yeah

#

its whats used most often for most sword and fists aspects in speedrunning for a reason

tacit nimbus
#

wait, is merficul end when you use an attack that deflects, or just successfully deflecting?

twin thistle
#

even without ME, doom is great on sword or fists attack or something like rama special

#

just hitting with something that can deflect

#

dont have to deflect attacks

tacit nimbus
#

oh no. that's overpowered.

#

inflict doom, dash into target. bam.

gray apex
#

That's how it should go yea

strong ridge
#

ME gaming

twin thistle
#

though the doom and dash should be simultaneous

thorn gust
#

impending doom also still works on merciful end

#

I've done a couple runs where I was bashing into enemies with 1k+ dmg doom procs

#

(also I know I'm using the term "proc" incorrectly, fight me)

raw herald
#

Nah I think that’s how a lot of people use it

#

Idc

broken cradle
#

man i upgraded aspect of guan yu to max, hoping it would be good
but its still super hard to play 👀
i love the playstyle, but man this aspect is unforgiving without the right hammer upgrades

nothing compared to arthur and haha big blade go brrrrr

past gate
#

Personally, this aspect is probably one of the coolest in the game

#

Although it probably struggles a lot without thick skin

#

If Aspect of Achilles didn't exist I'd probably always run it since it's really fun and also basically invalidates getting your health chipped away, since you can just decide to heal at basically any time

#

Also, hi!

broken cradle
#

hi!

#

and yeah that and the moveset are amazing

mint coral
#

Gy is nice

past gate
#

Personally I was a bit disappointed when I saw aspect of Beoulf (or however you spell it), basically the same as this but less creative

#

And painfully slow

#

Also just Aspect of Hera but worse

mint coral
#

Beo slow thanthink

gray apex
#

Beowulf can be hard to get into

mint coral
#

Beo is hera but broken

#

In both ways

past gate
gray apex
#

Yea

mint coral
#

Mirage is bugged in flares

gray apex
#

Beowulf is incredible

#

Both for speed and heat

past gate
#

I personally always find myself dashing through enemies with the bull rush

#

And all the casts miss

mint coral
#

I mea you can not charge past the enemies

past gate
#

I'm too used to Minotaur Rush ig

mint coral
#

Unlless is aspho where they also can jump out of the way

past gate
#

But, what's the great part about this aspect?

raw herald
#

A lot of damage

past gate
#

I found myself liking the special, but the bull rush didn't seem quite as good

raw herald
#

Casts have many ways to scale well

twin thistle
#

you murder everything

mint coral
#

Mirage shot duo boon on flares makes so the 2nd cast shoot doesnt have the dmg reduction

past gate
#

But if I wanted to run the cast builds, why not use Coronacht?

raw herald
#

They do more damage (with mirage shot) in a greater area with Beowulf

past gate
#

Oh really?

#

Damn

raw herald
#

On hera the casts do come out quicker, that’s it

gray apex
#

And they don’t get stuck in enemies

mint coral
#

Trippy flare is a lot of fun on beo cause it gets double value from poms

#

Without explanation

gray apex
#

Also the whole bullrush and blocking mechanic is a lot of safety

past gate
#

Yeah

#

Bull Rush is really nice

#

Half my normal runs rely on getting Minotaur Rush and just wailing on the bosses

raw herald
#

Charged shot is really good

past gate
#

(without aspect of beowulf of course)

mint coral
#

Charged shot beo is hera but wide

past gate
#

Yeah, wait, I'd never tried that

#

So with Charged Shot, the casts are fired when hitting something?

#

That's interesting

#

I should probably give this thing another shot!

mint coral
#

Casts explode at the end of your attack

raw herald
#

Bah dum tsss

oak ibex
#

Hey, guess who misread casts at cats again ✌️ 😔

gray apex
#

me

past gate
#

I personally wonder what boons we could've gotten from the olympians that aren't featured in the game
Like, I get that Hephaestus would probably just be Daedalus Hammers 2.0, but Hera would probably be interesting to play around, although I'm not sure what any boons from her would be like anyway

brisk quiver
#

is there any way to see how many more pets you need to give to cerberus to finish this quest?

#

lool

narrow hemlock
brisk trail
#

im seeing a few different max save files on the speedrun site, does anyone mind explaining which one i should grab? just dont feel like farming titan blood anymore residentzag

#

actually it looks like Ellomenop is the one i want, nvm/thnx

dreamy prairie
#

So if I haven't played for.... a very long time, should I start a new file or continue what I've started? Just wondering if there was anything towards the beginning that has changed?

#

I have maybe beaten the 2nd boss once, I can't remember

#

But then again people were doing heat runs last time so I think the game was complete by that time?

proud pilot
#

Wow this time Than and Meg were both waiting me in my room

#

Decided to join them ofc 🙃

unborn remnant
dreamy prairie
narrow hemlock
#

remember rule 2 folks

dreamy prairie
#

AH WHOOPS IM SORRY

dreamy prairie
unborn remnant
dreamy prairie
#

Yeah I figured, just wanted to see

proud pilot
#

sorry tatz 😉

dreamy prairie
#

Time to hop in and hopefully get further 👍

slim geyser
#

is there a way to turn the chamber count on? (on xbox)

polar quail
#

went from 11 titan blood to 32 titan blood

mint coral
#

Open your boon menu to see your current chamber

#

I think if you try to open it as soon you enter a chamber it wont display the menu but will show the chamber number

safe shoal
#

holy crap nemesis double edge is so good

#

I just won so easilyt

slim geyser
#

nem sword op

proud pilot
#

lol i just put a post it on my screen "Dont forget to pet Cerberus !"

#

Thats the last favor i have to do and i ALWAYS forget xD

#

and when i think to it, he isnt there Kappa

slim geyser
#

I SHOULD DO THAT WITH NECTAR TO THE GODS

proud pilot
#

^^

slim geyser
#

how many chambers in tartarus again

signal aspen
#

14

slim geyser
#

i’m gonna punch thanatos and nyx
dusa :((

#

anyway what’s thanks favor

#

than’s

polar quail
#

Today didn’t go too well. I’m on a losing streak

#

I still made progress though

narrow hemlock
#

thats the nice thing about hades, even when you lose you're still making progress somewhere, so even a lost run doesnt feel like a total bust. most of the time

polar quail
#

Yeah

#

Today I finished the epilogue, maxed out some more weapon aspects, and maxed out another companion

slim geyser
#

watching zagreus genuinely ge better at the lyre is SO SATISFYINg

polar quail
lone kernel
slim geyser
#

hell yeah

lone kernel
#

it wasnt quite as sad knowing they end up singing good riddance in the future, but count dooku as hades, i love it

#

that guys voice was unreal

slim geyser
#

AYYY I LEARNED THE LYRE

lone kernel
slim geyser
#

was it on broadway or tour

#

hadestown that is

lone kernel
#

bway

#

im moving to colorado in two months, may as well enjoy nyc for another few months before i leave this expensive cesspool behind

slim geyser
#

oh cool
i saw it on bway back in october

lone kernel
#

yeah, it is pretty damn cool that i was inspired to buy $100 tickets for a show because of a $25 game. good job, supergiant

slim geyser
#

opposite for me

lone kernel
#

yeah i just saw it on nintendo direct and was like, this looks kinda neat okay ill spend 25 bucks

#

i still havent beaten hollow knight or age of calamity (hades interrupted those two)

slim geyser
#

oh cool i can beat up hades with meg now

feral belfry
feral belfry
#

Need to try to go

lone kernel
#

it's worth it

#

it's about orpheus and eurydice for everyone else and im like

#

wait this story does have a happy ending

old knoll
#

I love the way that whenever you receive boons a rainbow flashes, showing that the gods are reaching you through Iris

slim geyser
#

oh i didnt realize that

slim geyser
#

man 32 heat shouldnt be giving me this much of a hard time

lone kernel
#

but if you give gods nectar

#

youll get better at 32 heat

slim geyser
#

lol

#

i might try chiron build

lone kernel
#

whats your highest heat and fav weapon

twin thistle
#

also ze pact

slim geyser
#

16, prob eris

twin thistle
#

16 to 32 is gunna be pretty big jump. what does your mirror and 32 hest pact look like

lone kernel
#

yeah so thats a giant jump. think of it like lifting weights - you could double your weight, but that's a not good idea for long-term gains and progression

#

like you need to have TD3 comfortable

#

LC4/SD

twin thistle
#

16 to 32 isnt really a 2 times difficulty increase either

lone kernel
#

Eris is a good choice (and I did yeet it and win because don't die until i get rip current smair and splitting bolt by mid-ely worked)

#

(on em4 and no LC)

#

but if you intend to play the game more, which you def seem on that path

#

breaking it up into chunks to learn new pacts and like, stretching before you go for the big power lift

#

will go a LONG way

#

like i did a bunch of LC4 TD3 10 heat for example

#

just to get used to two scary pacts (the rest of it being vanilla)

#

and you also need to have EM3 tight, which if you're at 16...50/50 chance you're there, but 32 heat typically means beating theseus and minotaur with stubborn defiance and either higher speed or enemy damage

#

i'd recommend a few runs of: EM3 LC4 TD3 (16) then 4 worth of flex (UC BP1, DC2 UC on Eris, mess with it, the idea is to start with the core of 16 there and ramp it up a bit)

#

you can go to high heat for more details and other people who are sweaty tryhards like me but better at the game

#

and all the pinned stuff is helpful

#

im going to bed goodnight

feral belfry
#

Man

#

Doing a PR run right now with my DPS basically done

#

just a bit slow due to JS 2

#

then I get a chaos boon with no rerolls, one makes cast hurt me, the other doesn't allow me to get my cast for 12 seconds

#

running beo

#

fudge

#

run ender

past gate
#

Oof

#

By the way, what's the maximum upgrade for Fated Persuasion?
The third is 3K Darkness which is already a pain to get, are there more levels after that?

twin thistle
#

4 rolls total

thorn gust
#

4 dice total for persuasion 8 total for authority I think

past gate
#

Sheesh

thorn gust
#

yeah it takes a while to truly max the mirror

past gate
#

Alright, good to know!

thorn gust
#

I think you could be well into 150 runs before the mirror is fully maxed especially if you're not the kind of person that takes dark thirst every time or focuses on bounty over darkness farming runs

past gate
#

Yeah

#

With the whole Heat thing, I usually find myself upping the difficulty after basically every escape

#

So I don't get half as much darkness as I used to

thorn gust
#

see, when you keep upping the heat to get new bounties for titan bloods/diamonds/ambrosia

#

you're also missing out on tons of darkness

#

which is fine when the mirror is maxed of course, but I personally did take a few runs to at least max out the mirror bonuses that I actually care for

lone kernel
#

max persuasion and dark foresight

#

go brrr

past gate
#

Speaking of mirror, is there any reason to use Dark Regeneration? I could see it coming in handy after bosses the bounties of which you already have, but sacrificing the consistent healing for that seems like a bad idea to me

thorn gust
#

both are fine

past gate
#

Although if you have pitch-black darkness you'll probably be picking darkness chambers anyway

thorn gust
#

and you are correct that dark regeneration won't help as much if the boss is dropping a bounty instead of darkness

#

well the other option is to go giga chad

#

and just finish 20 heat bounty on every weapon

#

then Every run going forward is gonna be a darkness farming run

past gate
thorn gust
#

alternately, you could try learning speedrunning or something

#

thats a relatively easy way to end up with more darkness than intended

#

its a nice little way to make your game still feel fresh and less grindy even if your actual intention is to grind darkness

#

try for sub 15 min on every weapon -- then sub 10 min etc

#

and by the time you get sub 10 on every weapon, I'd almost guarantee your mirror will be maxed

feral belfry
#

What does Bouldys ambiguity bonus do

chrome wharf
#

moral support

thorn gust
feral belfry
#

2% moral support

#

imagine 100

chrome wharf
#

You just warp to the victory screen

thorn gust
#

even charons boat wouldnt bring you to victory as fast as 100% moral support

slim geyser
high island
feral belfry
slim geyser
#

wait so for underworld customs

#

if you purge a boon in the level as in before the “fountain + switch keepsake” area does it count

fast willow
slim geyser
#

no, boudly gives you pure invulnerability for an hour

onyx olive
runic parrot
#

it actually does give you invulnerability. but only as long as you aren't being damaged by an enemy

#

the invulnerability is emotional.

brisk quiver
brisk trail
#

How many times do I have to talk to Chaos with shield equiped

#

To unlock hidden aspect?

high island
#

It's just random if you get the dialogue once you meet the requirements for it.

thorn gust
#

for people going for their 32 heat clear, I highly recommend doing several runs where you turn on forced overtime 2, extreme measures 3, benefit package 2, and middle management, but practice each of those pacts in isolated, separate runs

#

as in do a couple runs where the only pact you turn on is FO2

#

then do several runs where the only pact you turn on is EM3 etc

#

once you get comfortable with each of those pacts in isolated runs, slowly start combining them

#

and once you get comfortable with that start trying for clear times under 30 mins, then 25 minutes, then 20 minutes

#

if you reach this point, you're almost guaranteed to be good enough to do your actual 32 heat run

gray apex
#

You can just avoid FO2 completely for 32

high island
#

I was gonna say that.

thorn gust
#

of course, but this I feel is like the best course of progression to get people towards their 32 heat clear

#

not just because you learn the most difficult roadblocks to the clear

gray apex
#

I disagree with that

thorn gust
#

but because youll quickly figure out which pacts you're willing to sacrifice for others

kindred silo
#

Just do everything and try until you get it, FO2 EM3 is a lot harder than just EM3 lmao

gray apex
#

FO2 EM3 BP2 with LC4 is one of the toughest ways to 32

#

If your only goal is to clear HL5 and FO0 is the most consistent and effective way to do it, as Nyaanyaa suggests

#

If you wanna push higher it’s another story

high island
ionic harness
#

Imagine searching the entire run for a specific duo boon which you have the requirements for, but getting three other duo books that you weren't even trying to get

#

Imagine if someone did that lmao

#

Lol

#

🙃

iron oyster
#

also, it feels wrong watching god of war olympian kills after playing this game

#

wonder if zag exists in that universe

ionic harness
#

@iron oyster hello

iron oyster
#

hi?

ionic harness
#

Uuuh idk I just said hi

high island
#

Because then stuff like that happens. dusa

ionic harness
#

Yeah

#

I beat redacted anyway bc I'm a beast

#

😎

iron oyster
#

what heat? i can barely go against 0 heat final boss

ionic harness
#

Specifically I wanted the Zeus Demeter boon

iron oyster
#

im just that bad

ionic harness
iron oyster
#

what percent

ionic harness
#

80...

iron oyster
#

oh ouch

#

you died 30 times?

ionic harness
#

I just grind

iron oyster
#

fair

#

wait is ||pact|| allowed with god mode

ionic harness
#

Heat 3

ionic harness
#

Nothing else I think

iron oyster
#

eh ok

#

so just far less hard

marble blaze
#

well i just discovered you can fight in hades with just 2 joysticks

ionic harness
#

How

mint coral
marble blaze
# ionic harness How?

Well i use a genric controller on pc and if yiu turn the "mode" off on the controller if you rotate the right joystick it executes the action that the button in the noved direction would do like if i noved it down i dash

ionic harness
#

Ok

#

I have an off brand switch controller with turbo

wary mural
#

can anyone tell me a weapon to play

raw herald
#

Aspect of Gilgamesh

wary mural
#

yay my most hated weapon

iron oyster
wary mural
#

gonna do some spear guan yu

unborn remnant
#

I think its crazy that once I got my third dd, I got my first clear and went on a streak

#

everything clicked into place

#

also for those trying heat, tight deadline is such an easy one to start with

#

and the one that increases cost of items

thorn gust
unborn remnant
#

you dont really need to take items on low heat once you have a plan

#

its good to have them though

mint coral
#

Is probaboy easy but i dont like it lol

#

Bad vibes

gray apex
#

CF1 is okay

#

CF2 is horrible

thorn gust
#

just treat CF2 like a speedrun where you take charon's shop rooms anyways knowing full well you can't afford anything in it

gray apex
#

That's not what happens in Speedruns lol

#

It's actually quite important to hit every shop with enough gold to afford stuff when you're speedrunning

thorn gust
#

then treat it like you're on one of those runs where it's not even worth the extra second it takes to check a well even if there's a chance for chaos gates

#

treat every well like it's in the last room before a boss (or something?) dusa

#

play the game as if it's normal to pay 800 obols for a boon when you reach styx

#

play the game like it was hoarding slash gaming

gray apex
#

skip shops problem solved

thorn gust
#

so I just go into the shop for speed, but dont even buy anything there

#

but that usually doesnt happen until like elysium

gray apex
#

Well yea I meant just in general having a good amount of gold to pick up whatever is a nice boost to your build, it doesnt always work sometimes you just cant do anything about it, but CF2 just makes your gold value a lot worse so it's just a very meh pact in general

#

If I'm doing 40-45 heat runs for fun I totally avoid it

thorn gust
#

so the simple trick to getting used to CF2

#

is to always have bad luck with charon offering you stuff that dont actually work with your build

#

and hoarding slash

lone kernel
#

Money buys options

mint coral
#

Im not gonna fall for cf2 propaganda

thorn gust
#

but yeah joking aside, when you run CF2, you're basically praying you get everything you need from room rewards and your money will basically only be enough to buy the occasional heal or jerky

#

if you do actually hoard a bit, you could realistically buy at least 1 boon per area tho

#

like go around breaking gold pots and stuff

lone kernel
#

cf2 more like

#

inconvenience fee

#

am i right

#

but yeah just get purple chaos money boon ez

gray apex
lone kernel
devout terrace
thorn gust
#

pick poseidon every time and grab every sunken treasure and ocean bounty

#

ez, CF2 solved

#

in fact, just run bouldy for the extra money bouldy

high island
#

You'll get forced into plenty of shops where you can spend your money anyway.

#

So by skipping shops when you can, you're just saving money for those occasions while picking up basically free gold laurel rewards on the way.

thorn gust
#

honestly, in the one time I actually tried CF2, I just learned not to expect any boons from styx lol

high island
#

Well, the Styx shop usually costs real time and in-game time anyway. So you're not losing out by skipping it, usually.

#

Like it's faster usually to just skip the shop and go straight to Hades.

#

Unless there's a chance to get something broken in the shop like say you have Splitting Bolt requirements and there's a boon from him.

thorn gust
#

thats pretty much what I've been told before too

mint coral
#

Achilles also has zoomie styx shops

thorn gust
#

I think I've only had once or twice where the styx shop actually made a noticible difference in a run and that's when I wanted to roll for that rush delivery

high island
#

Yeah, it's mainly just for things like that. Or if you're doing like what's high heat for you or something where you're just looking for any edge to help you win.

#

But usually the shop doesn't really matter too much.

#

Somewhat related to that, I think only doing normal runs or only IGT kind of leads people to overanalyze decisions because you have so much time to make one, so you want to make sure it's optimal... but practicing RTA helps you plan ahead and also helps you recognize those situations where it really doesn't matter what you pick.

#

Like an obvious example is you have plenty of money, you're in Styx tunnel, and you know you're not not going to the shop. You see a Well, you check it, and try to figure out which ones to buy.

#

The answer is just buy everything, no need to think or even read the options.

thorn gust
#

click everythingpog

#

just about to say that cuz I only recently started thinking like that lol

high island
#

If you have rolls, roll and buy out everything again.

thorn gust
#

so that plan ahead part is actually kinda important

#

cuz chances are if you're a speedrunner, you've already done some of the same stuff over and over again

#

and like when you reach a point where you're hitting PBs and stuff, you would ideally start to notice that sometimes, you've already made a decision before you even touch the first enemy in a room

#

you probably know what the end goal for your build is

#

you probably know what kinds of chaos boons to grab and avoid for your build

#

and if not, you probably at least know which chaos curse would be the least likely to end your run

#

you probably know what items will help you before you even peek into a well

strong ridge
#

it’s true

high island
#

And also experimentation.

brisk trail
#

I talked to Chaos with shield on about 25 times and still nothing

#

...

high island
#

You've met the requirements for the dialogue?

brisk trail
#

Yes

high island
#

Welp. Things like that can take awhile.

brisk trail
#

"talk to Chaos with shield equipped"

#

Several times

high island
#

You also need to have at least 5 Titan Blood invested in any shield aspects.

past gate
#

Wow, is that how hidden aspects work?
I remember Achilles gave me Guan Yu when I'd barely even touched the darned thing

#

Or is Varatha's secret aspect just an exception?

brisk trail
#

It was not written in the trophy guide Im using

twin thistle
past gate
twin thistle
#

its just guan yu thats different

past gate
#

Ah

ionic harness
#

I saw a Reddit discussion on why Zag has skulls on his shoulder and some one said: Yo the offspring of his beloved pet died and Zagreus just thought "Hm sad and all but I think it’s Heads would be drip af on my shoulders“

brisk trail
ionic harness
#

Don't spam

high island
ionic harness
#

Why do I have no duo booooooooons

high island
#

Also probably just a side effect of Guan Yu being the first hidden aspect they added during Early Access.

ionic harness
ionic harness
#

But I deserve more squirtdevious

bright parrot
#

How do you unlock Aphrodite's last heart? it's been locked for a long time, and no matter how much I talk to it, it's never unlocked

high island
#

You need to forge bonds with 2 out of Dusa, Megaera, and Thanatos.

bright parrot
#

I already got the present (ally of dusa and magaera and thanato is with 3 friendship, and as much as I keep killing myself and renewing the dialogues with aphrodite she is never released

#

I do not know why

chrome wharf
#

It's rng

#

Just play normally

real kettle
#

hi every one!

#

i have a small question!

#

about mission "Divided by Death"

#

Looks like I encountered a small bug in the game!

high island
#

Like this one for Dusa:

real kettle
#

in my Work orders, it showed a check mark at the bottom, which means I bought everything there!

#

but..

high island
real kettle
#

it not have Hero's Sacrifice 😦

south hedge
#

So, I ran into a bug, I'm not sure what caused it, but I noticed it at the last area, golden touch stopped giving more gold at some point after Tartarus.

onyx star
#

Should I get a tattoo of dusa? One like and I'll get it

brisk trail
#

Everybody loves Dusa dusa

onyx star
#

Guess I gotta

#

First tattoo lesgooo

brisk trail
#

Maybe I'll get one too 🤣

polar quail
onyx star
#

Ty

#

I posted in #fan-works what I'm considering

polar quail
#

yours is sunglasses maya mine is sunglasses franziska dusa

bright parrot
#

I gave all liquor and bottles to the dusa, but I didn't get the pendant

polar quail
bright parrot
raw herald
#

You know what would be cool

high island
#

Snow.

#

Vanilla ice cream.

raw herald
#

A station in between biomes that allows you to double/half the number or rerolls you have to change them to authority/persuasion

high island
#

So that if you accidentally start with Authority, you can switch to Persuasion mid-run? courte5Wut

raw herald
#

Could be used in ME to increase the chances of Nat Athena

#

But then swap to persuasion to get good Hermes and ME

high island
#

Is it natural if you have to roll for it? courte5Wut

raw herald
#

And then swap back for poms

bright parrot
#

What should I do

polar quail
#

just wait til she comes into zag's room

#

then it happens

bright parrot
#

But isn't it just giving her all the liquor? along with the bottles

polar quail
#

you finished that part.

bright parrot
#

yés

polar quail
#

but for dusa you need another scene before it happens

bright parrot
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yes, now all that's left is for her to give me the little icon

polar quail
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yeah

bright parrot
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oh, thank's

polar quail
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just click dusa whenever she's in the house. eventually she'll say she wants to talk.

bright parrot
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I thought it would be just like the others, just deliver all the ''gifts''

polar quail
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taking back the ambrosia doesn't give a negative reaction so I recommend you do that so you can use it elsewhere

bright parrot
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ok, thanks

cyan blaze
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Hey folks does anyone have any good resources for good builds? I never know what to go for

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Also mirror and weapon upgrades?

past gate
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Guides?

cyan blaze
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Yee

past gate
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Ah

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You can probably ask someone around here

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I know there are at least some guides

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I just don't know where

cyan blaze
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I guess what are good builds that are easier to get together

past gate
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Still new here

cyan blaze
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Me either :/

past gate
past gate
cyan blaze
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I’ve only beat hades once so i wanna beat him with other weapons and with some heat on

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I beat him with the sword but i really like the shield and the gloves

past gate
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Alright

cyan blaze
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I usually get a lot of aries and athena stuff

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Cause I’m bad i like the reflects lol

past gate
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I'm personally awful at Malphon, but I can give shield tips

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For starters

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Minotaur Rush, in my opinion, is one of the best, if not the best shield upgrade

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Just mash it on bosses for pretty large amounts of damage

sleek blaze
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I love Malphon, Long-knukkles is amazing at the beginning

past gate
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Pulverizing Strike (I think that was the name), can also work quite well for general DPS

cyan blaze
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The block is nice

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I had the upgrade that made the gloves range longer and it was really good

past gate
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Do you have any custom Aspects for shield, or are you running the default one?

cyan blaze
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Lost to hades tho 😦

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Just default i havent spent any titans blood yet

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I have like 8 or 9 or so

past gate
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Aha

cyan blaze
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I didnt know what to use on i dont wanna waste it

past gate
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Personally, out of the shield aspects I recommend Aspect of Zeus

cyan blaze
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Ahh okok

past gate
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It lets you keep most of the speedy feel of Aegis, and lets you have a Special that deals considerable damage over a large area, and doesn't disable your attack

cyan blaze
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Is there a way to respec items if i dont like the upgrades

sleek blaze
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I like Chaos on the shield the multithrow is awesome.

past gate
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The problem is travel speed

sleek blaze
past gate
cyan blaze
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Ohhh kk

past gate
sleek blaze
cyan blaze
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Is there a guild that shows how to build duos and stuff?

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I never know what i need to get for boons

past gate
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So it works really well with Tempest Flourish, since each hit drops lightning, for high DPS totals overall

onyx leaf
past gate
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Probably also has good enough uses with Drunken Flourish, but I don't know if it deals any higher damage than just yeeting people with lightning

onyx leaf
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Best weapon in the game

past gate
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And lightning aspect allows for Jolted which is just always awesome

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If you get Zeus boons, going for Jolted is often a pretty good idea

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Bosses attack pretty much all the time, so it allows you to deal an extra hundred or so damage after each attack so long as you keep applying lightning

mint coral
cyan blaze
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I beat charon last night he is HARD

cyan blaze
past gate
sleek blaze
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Yeah Charon is a beast

past gate
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I think the problem might be that he deals loads of damage, which in early game can easily one-shot you

cyan blaze
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He my fav character

past gate
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If you pick a fight later into the run it's probably less difficult

mint coral
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Also works for Chaos

cyan blaze
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Ohh okok sweet

sleek blaze
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beating him twice in a row is the last profecy left on my list

cyan blaze
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I think i unlocked that one without knowing what it does LOL

slim geyser
mint coral
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Ye

slim geyser
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ive been playing this game for ages and didnt know that

cyan blaze
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Chaos is busted

mint coral
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Chaos on cast builds my beloved

slim geyser
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facts

cyan blaze
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The artwork so good too

past gate
mint coral
past gate
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Kinda wish there was an easier way to tell what Chamber we were in

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Iirc the pause menu shows it