#h1-discussion
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Yea it's very easy to miss
that's another reason why Battie being faster is important, it doesn't miss
The way Meg's projectiles work is also very nice for lining up stuff
like witches
can hit all 4
and heroes
yep yep
Than can hit the bosses just fine, you just gotta take the slow startup into consideration when summoning him.
Minibosses are a problem.
I don’t think I would, but I’ve not played any other roguelikes so I don’t have a comparison
But I really like the way it’s implemented in hades
They are unrelated
Adding heat doesn't change the effects of Titan blood you have spent
I am using the word "heat" like a run to escape
is that incorrect verbage?
But regardless i think u answered my q
Ah. Heat is a specific term in Hades which you will learn about after your first escape
Okay, don't trade any Titan blood with the broker
naw
but i do wanna build a stronger weapon
i spent one once and i thought it vanished
so i horded it
Save it until you have beaten Hades and learned how to use it.
If you spend it it will go away
true ok that was the wisdom i seeked
But the effects it buys are permanent
Or Dad as he's otherwise known
haha yea yea
ok so the effect it buys are perm
example, so say i use one titan blood on the sword
escape attempt and die
it goes away if i use the sword again,
is that what u are saying
No, you spend the blood and upgrade the sword. That upgrade is permanent.
You can't get the blood back and then use it to upgrade something else
I like my consistency so i like it the way it is
Yeah, even just that Anvil can be a run killer
Like i enjoy the tipical "pick what you find" but Hades is comfy
Dark foresight/keepsakes/fated persuasion gives you a lot of control on what you want
Exactly Hades isn't really that random at all
imaybe swapping them out at the biome room
Is there an inside joke with the time being 7:48 or is it random
I think the joke is that it doesn't update, but the first time I checked the time it was 9:48 so I assumed it was right but they had got my timezone wrong
does anyone have tips with zeus shield
Zeus on special
Unlock the hidden aspect instead?
kinda funny that when ppl ask about Zeus sheild the conversation is just
"how to zoos?"
"zoos."
how do you unlock it
to clarify, you only need to be able to view the Aspect of Guan Yu. You don't need to actually unlock it with Titan Blood
And a bit of Aphro
I finished the feast, anything else to do for the story?
Main story thats it
Idk if you still have any of the sub plots (than/meg/orpheus/etc)
K
So my main goals now are competing the codex, max bond with everyone, and maxing the weapon aspects
how do i start playing hades again when i'm in a 50-60 hour save haven't played for a year+ and i don't remember anything
pick a weapon
Start a new save
I got a good seed for ME Guan Yu with a natural Ares and Athena so I joked in #h1-builds-and-combat that "time to never get ME because this game hates me" and then i just casually get it in tartarus
it's not the mechanics that bother me i don't remember my progression on the side quests(?) such as orpheus euridice or achilles patroclus progress
immediately try to beat your heat/time pb
You don't have to spoiler tag in here btw @sinful pine
ight
is there an indicator in the codex for that stuff? i don't remember
and in general does the codex do a good job of reminding where the story is (i'm right after credits roll)
no the codex doesnt help with the story at all, it tell u frienship with characters but thats about it
but if i just keep on wailing on stuff and playing the game there shouldn't be much of an issue right
i'm not missing out on any major hint i would've remembered otherwise
imo just make guesses on where you were and continue where u left off on the story
yea its np
if its important, it probably shows up in the fated list of minor prophecies
Static Discharge
Heroic Swift Strike on Arthur, Eurydice is based once again
Guys I have a problem with the game
When the game starts there is no way to select which gender I want to play as
How can I set my characters gender?
You can't.
Why?
its a fixed story line, you play as zagreas son of hades
I find it kind of oppressing that I cannot play as a women
Like in most video games you have to option to play a woman but not in this game
Women lacking representation in video games is a huge issue and this game furthers that problem.
i hope youre joking
You also should realize the insane logistics hurdle that it is to alter a lot of the dialogue to respect the player's choice of gender
the story would not work if the character could be played as both a man and women. they shouldnt throw away a good story because it lacks representation
All of Hades is voice-acted. It takes quite a lot of effort to tell the voice actors/actresses to say "hey, say this line again, but refer to the player as princess/use she"
theres a lot of represention already, Athena and Ares are black, and the furies are badass women
That, and Patroclus / Achilles are in a gay relationship, and Zagreus is canonically bisexual
that too like how much more represention do u want lmao
Supergiant has done a lot, and the representation is done incredibly well.
I'm kind of disappointed in this game, like I expected this game to be more inclusive I guess? To not contribute to the hardships and discrimination that women face in modern society
But I guess basic human rights are too much to ask for
@brisk trail Do you have any intent to participate in a productive discussion on this subject?
you feel that you lack human rights because you cant select a woman in a game?
Furthermore, Hades pays lots of respect to Greek mythology. Inherently changing the gender of the player character is effectively impossible
I'm sure hades pays respect to it's male audience by including over sexualized women it's game
I'm just so tired of women being seen as sexual objects by the gamer males and having portrayed that way in every video game
Uh, the only one who's like that is Aphrodite, the goddess of love, beauty, and sexuality.
If my memory of Greek mythology is correct, Aphrodite will appear to mortals in that person's view of an "ideal lover"
@brisk trail I'll ask you again, do you have any intent whatsoever to participate in a productive discussion on this subject?
If your objective here is to provoke a response out of people, then please familiarize yourself with rule 1 which states
...Be accepting and respectful. Avoid being inflammatory.
Yeah I just wanted to initiate a productive conversation about the diversity issues hades has, but I have found only abuse from the community so far
LMAO

Abuse????
ok this is a troll account

such bad bait 
let's move along 
bouldy <3
regarding that earlier discussion, i actually find it quite interesting to learn about the logistics hurdles that come up in games
because it's not just like pressing 0 and 1 over and over again and boom your game's all finished
it's surprising how many of these show up that you'd be totally unaware of unless you did QA testing and/or have made a game yourself (preferably the latter)
like regarding voice acting. genshin impact (if you'd put away your potential grievances about the game for the passing mention) doesn't have nearly as many voiced lines as something like Hades, yet sometimes some issues within the voice direction still sneak through the cracks
either the characters will unintentionally refer to the player by the wrong gender, or have their voice acting differ from the subtitles (though usually the same point will get across) , or there'll be a total error in translation
Being here in Early Access also made one a lot more aware of every detail that was added to the game and then reworked and refined and sometimes just removed.
(also on this as a productive discussion, id say aphrodite is handled incredibly well. shes sexualized but not objectified ig?)
Remember to keep it clean. 
understandable
okay!
anyway am i the only one who doesnt get the hypnos hype? like hes funny and i like him but i wouldnt say hes anything special
wrong word, i just see a lot of love for him
hypenos 
hypnos is controversial imo, some people barely notice him cuz he doesnt have much story impact and only makes random remarks, some ppl like him cuz hes chill and some dont like him cuz he makes fun of you for dying and wants thesues' autograph lol
Asterius's autograph.
i find the fact he literally cannot use sarcasm hilarious at least
Maybe you're underestimating him. Maybe his deadpan is just that good.
well he tricked Nyx
make Hypnos a comedian 2022
as someone who was around in early access, i can tell you barely anyone ever talked about him and finding content for him back then was incredibly hard. also a lot of people relate to various parts of his personality, how he speaks with others, how others treat him
i have also, since early access, pointed out how it is a bit upsetting to me personally that he is largely disconnected from anything else going on, to the point that not once does he ever even call zag by name or nickname, so his interactions feel a lot less personal compared to other characters, and it just feels weird when the rest of the narrative is so well written and interwoven.
i was actually a bit surprised at how much his popularity rose after full release
but again, a lot of people relate to him
mostly us neurodivergent folks :)
interesting!
what the actual
hey lets not dig that back up please, move on
we shall pretend we didnt scroll up


im so dumb there was a fishing spot in greece, but i figured i talk to persephone before fishing
and i died during the conversation and missed the fish lmao
yea i forgor
"mom i know im literally breaking out of hell to talk to you for 5 mins, but first i have to catch this fish"
lol
I wasn't his biggest fan after the first time you meet him with him rubbing your death in your face, but he grew on me a bit. I do agree that at times he seems a little disconnected from everything else, but I also haven't had him trigger for any talking events with really anyone else. Honestly a bit surprised he isn't a potential love interest just to make it even 2 male and 2 female.
just a cool guy
well i think jt wld be weird to date than’s brother if ur dating him, bjt ig if ur not dating than
Fair. Guess it would complicate your relationship with than especially considering you can already be with than and Meg. I've just seen a lot of fanfiction with people shipping him and zag
Does Price of Midas (coin for a "blood price") shrink your max health?
apparently hades burnt his hands by holding zagreus lol
related to max health dumbness
i thought the Chaos boon that have more hp just healed you 

his fault for grabbing him by the feet ig
true
Nice
time to tryppy flare
enjoy the bugs
cant wait
The Mirage Bug applies to all Beo flares (although Thunder Flare has 0 Blast damage so it’s 0x2
), the poms are for Trippy Flare only, they are double what the tooltip says
There are more Beo bugs but those are the major ones for the most part
Ahh
trippy flare beo to be specific
Hera doesnt for whatever reason
mhm
Yea
Trippy Flare hera just gets the Mirage bug
A wise man once said: “This game works in mysterious ways
“
thunder flare backstabbing comes to mind
@mint coral whats the bug ur talking abt
Value gaming 
both
I just started a new save, got to the Elysium Boss. That felt really good getting that far on a first run. Hoping I can make it to [redacted] sometime on a first run!
I just started playing this morning and now I've wasted the whole day playing
But i did get all the way to Elysium at least which is cool
It'll happen for sure. You learn the game pretty quick
Oh, I have 200+ hours, in the game already, I just have a personal goal of one day clearing a run on the first attempt.
Oh right, right
Yeah first attempt clear would be pretty interesting
I assume there's special dialogue for that
I would assume so yeah.
sadly it is nothing special
Yo -- I have Hera and Aphro cast (Crush Shot). Does Chain Shot impact on the first foe hit? or the last? https://i.imgur.com/B1A2VXE.png
first hit
i forgot the elysian arrow traps deal 100 dmg on hs 😶
In a run tonight i accidentally dashed into 3 in one chamber with the heat modifier on. That ended my run. 😦
Can't believe I stuck with HS for so long at low heats
"but it made you smarter at avoiding traps" no it didn't
is charged shot for the shield good or nah
yeah ig
nope!
Ok thanks 🙂
skelly isnt employed by hades
he told me who he works for after about 80 wins lol
||its charon||
Just beat the game to crests. Really impressed with how the story played out
Especially with Beowulf it is
god hades is so ANNOYING
ill say “oh im gonna get off for today” but then have a build idea i want to try so i log on and the cycle never stops
there is no escape
I think so
guys
i have a very hard choice
i can choose between scintillating feast
or zeus legendary
what do i take
splitting bolt prolly. like whats your build
yeah splitting does way more there.
no zeus attack?
i couldn't get it
at all
i spent one roll on it when the run started
with the keepsake
but no luck
I have aphro flourish with unhealthy fixation and smair with zeus call
and zeus legendary
so I'm fine
and i won
let's goo
pops got melted
Does it really? What's the attack rate of Scintillating Feast?
Scintillating with double strike is like having a constant Zeus call. However if you had Smair on Zeus anyway, Splitting is the way to go.
idk if scintillating uptime is even that great if dad keeps running out of your fog
I wanna see the math for that. 

What are decorative themes and what do they do?
They change the look of your life gauge, boon list, etc.
Is that it?
Yes. If you scroll through #h1-victory-boasting, you'll see a lot of them on the victory screens.
Ok
Where do you get em?
House Contractor. Work Orders.
unlock all work orders and you need to have 15k darkness gathered spend 5k gems and 30 titan blood used
I love Zeus shield
You only need 1 ambrosia each for the gods to max them out right?
I think most require 1, all the companions require more, nyx and hermes off the top of my head are 3 and 2 respectively
What is the easiest way to get chtonic friend?
Ugh, I gave up on the Witcher because I didn’t like that storyline with the baron. But it’s like everything in the game - keep doing runs, keep giving nectar and ambrosia to people, prioritize Meg since hers is based, then it’s like 10 more ambrosia to max it out each I think?
You’ll generally get your first one after the credits I think but someone else please confirm or update this particular bullet point cause I’m not positive
Technically skelly or Meg since it’s most consistent in progressing the story but it’s more so based on who you talk/gift the most and they are all similar in difficulty
sweats in how I spammed giving Than a crap ton of nectar and ambrosia
there's no shame in simping for your favorites' companion first!
AMEN
Simping for Than is just kind of mandatory
I wasn’t feeling him tbh - the edge lord archetype is not one I find super engaging or attractive
Reminded me too much of an ex that was also doom and gloom all the damn time
I find him anything but a edge lord but fair
what happens if i dont simp for him
Then Aphrodite puts on clothing
Honestly, fair trade
Idk it’s like too well written and uncanny lol like how it was constant “you should know what the problem is” nonsense I’m a grown man screw that noise
I’d trade than for an asterius love triangle plot in a heartbeat, I love asterius he’s basically Ancient Greek stipe miocic
I have a 12y nephew and it took him way to long to realize that dite was naked
Find you an ex heavyweight champion
I think asterius would work better with hypnos + super jealous thesueus
I’m just thinking what I’d want in my own Ancient Greek mythical boyfriend
Kinda low key zag then
I personally find Than to be more nuanced than (ha, get it than-) "edgy lord boy" simply because his main motivation in the game is that he doesn't want his beloved childhood friend who he may-or-may-not-have-a-crush-on to leave before at least saying bye first. Not to mention he helps Zag all the time even though he (initially) denies it lol
so i just don't get nuance like that - i was one of those A+ in math everything, C- in English types in college - like i didn't pick up on dusa being a trans allegory until this server told me that like nine months after launch and after i had beaten 32 heat, i just don't see things that deep lol
i worry my brain doesnt work properly
I'm the complete opposite lmao
im the guy that reads content like yours and thinks, oh that makes sense
It's so bad: I'm worse than an overanalyzing high school English teacher
i was like, who is this guy and why is he so rude
then we're hooking up
uh
wut
but yeah, that does make a lot more sense, i missed things because i'm thick
pat pat
i guess that's why i was drawn to asterius as a replacement lol he's like, a dudebro i'd love to have a beer with lol
I do understand how it could be interpreted like that lol
Asterius is so wholesome I wish we could have romanced him
i got sweaty tryhard, my hades brain cells went towards git gud more than plot lol
But his relationship with Theseus is also very funny
yeah, i'd be lying if i said antagonizing theseus wasnt a part of it 
Especially the arc when Theseus is like "ARE WE STILL FRIENDS?!" and Asterius is like "...Yes?!"
I love when Artemis and Ares interact
Ares: May I play with your weapons
Artemis: PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE
Nah
i wish they had a few more duo boon lines
Artemis asks for the bow
rather than one and done lol
i wonder is there a way to reset the dialogue but not lose progression
She wants to use coronact
tbh using a non-artemis bow feels kinda wrong lol
even if its just a random pressure points on hera
Artemis wanting to use coronaucht is also very wholesome
But I still love her rare but hilarious interactions with Ares
Using artemis boons with bow
Kinda sad you cant romance artemis
Even though she likes zag
yeah, this one i did pick up on - she's not interested except maybe callisto
and she likes you because she can't hear you lol

Nah she like
hello
Warms up to zag
Then she has an interaction with aphro
Shes like
Zag i have something important
To tell you
Then aphro appears
Saying something drew her there
i wanted to participate in the discussion but i didnt have anything to say lol
well, im going to flex that i got 2 winning runs in a row, with weapons i havent played before
with shield first, then with fists
yeah, i thought of using zeus attack boon
based
and its pretty strong
Yeah
i got best time, like 22minutes
Zeus with fast autos is super goos
oh wait no, 23:33 to be exact
if you have screenshots, post them in #h1-victory-boasting !!!!
sure thing, thanks
and yeah, it's chill - like if you have questions/need help, just ask, someone will come along and give you way more info than you were requesting
i know its chill here, though thanks for warm words
cheers bud
Steam ss are so weird
they are in fact weird
I never know how they work
what dont you know? the hotkey? or where are they stored
I can use my controller to ss
But then idk where it keeps them
They might be in a file
On your computer
Ot they might be on steam if you saved them specifically
when you choose hades (or any game) in your library, youll find a few screenshots you made
right-click any of these, then click "manage screenshots", it will launch a new window, on the bottom of it there's "show on disc" or sth like that
yes it is hidden in a not cool way
Ohhh
Ok
Thats why i couldnt see any
The only ones i could see
Is if i went to my profile
Recent activity
hmm
so you found the folder in the end?
no prooooblem
im back to stygius and wow its trash!
you need to select "save an uncompressed copy" @elfin trout
steam settings- in game
For steam
or else it just saves a thumbnail
i was a fan of stygius, but i dont get as much luck this run as i did previously so it is horrible in comparison lmao
Oh thats sick ty
yep
@turbid quest crit is p fun on zag sword
im doing the crit run right now
You can hit things so much
i am waiting for some damage boon
btw, are fists with poison attack good?
this sounds pretty solid, but just asking
Thanks Demeter. Epic Rare Crop in chamber 3 after picking up an Epic in chamber 1.
Got so lucky it was unlucky
Got my first five sack. I wasn’t speedrunning but
happens to everyone
At least I didn’t have tight deadline on
word. yeah, TD can make it sweat. for reference its 36/28/20 min for each level (so td2 five sacks are usually salvageable)
lol I still remember that one time I got 4 sack tiny vermin on 52 heat beo
Still won
once you get into stubborn defiance territory you also get to start worrying if your patty sauce will wear off before the dad fight
(touch of styx dark is patty sauce now)
Yeah
Thought it was TosD
Whats the 10% from wells then
still touch of styx
chary sauce
wants to try a crustal beam build
takes demeter keepsake
only 1 demeter boon pops up the entire run
why
Yeah, I was aiming for Hunting Blades last run and forced Artemis in Asphodel. Got exactly one boon from her too.
I wish there was a mod
That like
Made it so you only get one god per run
That would be fun
Or one god and hermes
Bc full blade rift or full crit is hard to get but fun
you can just use the codex mod to give you all the boons you need
Oh true
I feel like i get 2 sack every time
Idk if im lucky
rolling miniboss doors with fated authority can get you a good amount of one god usually
But 95% of the time i get it in 2
2 sacks are like 52-3%
Yeah holy crap
That sort of exists, requires a little coding knowledge I think. Check with the modding discord
what’s fated authority tho
(nah I know I just never use it)
Its good for boonless runs
Yeah
Just roll the gods away
I think i am just unnaturally lucky
I get 2 sack majority of the time
And yesterday
I got splitting bolt as my 3rd boon from zeus
And i got bad news as my second hermes boon
Yeah I was thinking a meme level 20 boon run situation
Does it have a higher chance of spawning if i dont have any death defiances!
Defiances?*
Bc ive never found it
nah
the base chance is just like 1%
Jeez
use egg and legacy
Yeah i have max legacy
also can only be from your second chaos or something
Ive had it for a while and never found it unfortunately
Yeah
You need 1 chaos boon
Egg is a good idea tho ty
I forgot about that
I only need that
To learn the lyre
And to beat charon again
To complete the list
🥚
If you find a light of ixion in a charon well it can be worth it
Yeah
Always worth
Im close to finishing the game (except the badges) which is sad
But i want to try and speedrun it afterwards
So i can keep playing
tfw I take light of ixion, then take too much damage that I can't pay the blood price to enter the gate
use a death defiance 
Quick question, between a chaos gate and trial of gods, which one is the best option?
if you have traps available thats it
depends tm
Depends if chaos boons really help your build or if you need the boons from the offered gods.
he has like base 15k-17k hp i forget
17K
What was wrong with that

wait isnt cp2 22k per health bar
I’m only doing calisthenics program for the prophecy
Em4 adds moar in each phase too
yea
I've struggled with depression on and off for years and playing a game with ||the miscarriage ghost|| i noped out of it. (spoilers for the witcher, absolutely a trigger warning. don't click it unless you really care about the witcher)
need either better vibes or no story lol
I remember that quest
yeah im like..this is the first quarter
this gets worse
and this is a jankfest
nope
#video-games before we get 
Im stoned-

I had a friend give up there too, I felt like it picks up after. Not everyone likes the game tho
Just read the rest of your message
Fair enough, it's dark, but it can have a happyish ending if you go that route
Guys i wanted to know, do bosses have "armor"? I mean, all the boons that increase your dmg to armor do they have an impact on bosses or not?
Lernie small heads/minions summoned in furies/dad fight are the only affected in boss fights
okay ! so yeah armor damage has no impact on bosses! thanks 🙂

Love armor piercing boons, lets you stagger stuff and you dont have to care about the shields
yeah, just lernie. nail of talos in asphodel wells is $$$$
Piercing fire hestia
Just want to give the folks from Supergiant a huge thanks for Hades. Saw the Noclip videos on what you've gone through releasing the game, went to Steam, and made a purchase. Looks amazing.
What's the point of levelling up Hera? idk what "bloodstone drop time" exactly means lol
If you shoot a cast it can get stuck in an enemy
Since Hera's whole thing is about casts this passive helps you retrieve them faster
mostly for boss damage since a decent build will usually kill regular enemies in a single volley
What pact is the best at getting high damage attacks
wdym
sea storm Chiron fun
just got my 5th clear
gotta go beat dad up with the sword and ill have one on all weapons
god persephones garden is so dangpretty
Beo bossing is insane yea
Just unlocked the last hidden aspect! Now got them all 😄
I now need the last companion, but it can wait, meg do the job pretty well 😄
beo prob has the best damage to complexity of your Ancient Greek Rube Goldberg death machine ratio
Eris also up there
You kinda need to know what you’re doing with beo, Eris is slap Zeus on it and go brr
That heat condition is such a trick because yoy think “traps don’t matter than much” and then you realize how often you get hit by them. Usually not worth the 1 heat
Like the urns in the hades fight count as traps and those are already bad
Traps that don't really hurt you aren't fun.
Heightened security moment
True
i mean fair but also oofie ouchie at least im more aware of traps now
i hate the magma in asphodel
my controller is kind of slippery so sometimes ill slide right into it
i too thought traps was a great first heat idea 🤠
just use sure footing from athena 4Head
i switched to the boss moves one, might as well learn early
is there a good ordering of the heats?
what kinda heat are you going for?
3 
3 heat? well you could start off small with something like 1 or 2 points in damage control and maybe either jury summons/calisthenics program
or put 1-2 points in tight deadline if you're already not too slow in your runs
i wish you got retroactive bounties, i did a 3 heat clear already but had to go back
im slow as all heck, im just now getting into reading the wiki and mapping out the build more than 1 chamber beforehand
if your runs aren't typically in the 36+ minute range, you could just dump the points in tight deadline and you won't feel a single difference between 3 heat and 0 heat
ill try 1 and see how i fare
im experimenting/learning so i dont really clear for time yet
1 point of damage control is also for the most part going to make like 0 difference in the early heat runs
is that 15%hp?
well bosses get noticeably tankier at 15% more hp
but normal enemies will basically just take 1 extra attack before they die for the most part
that's great
are there any like trap that should be heavily avoided?
i kinda feel like on low heats they won't be adding up to much
well since you're still super early in your heats, forced overtime can take several runs to get used to
the 20%- 40% speed is no joke
enemies spawn faster, attack faster, and even revive faster in elysium
some enemies are also a pain to chase down because they jump around or run around the map at mach 3
extreme measures 1 and 2 are actually not too bad, so I would actually consider that a reverse trap
it sounds scary facing against upgraded versions of bosses, but the upgraded fury sisters and hydra fight aren't actually too bad
nah, it changes the boss fights starting from tatarus
so if you do extreme measures 1, only the fury sisters get changed while the rest of the bosses stay the same
i thought the furies new tag team act was a story progression lol
benefits package and middle management might also take a few runs to get used to
are the perks like diablo-style add ons?
I havent played diablo, but there's a whole list of perks that benefits package can add to armored enemies
and mini bosses are my hardest fights now so im avoiding middle mgmt
but it's anything ranging from very straight forward "this guy goes very fast/ hits very hard"
bad bot
to "holy *** this guy can summon a bunch of clones of itself"
the ones that mess with boons seem kind of tedious
the enemies will have a little icon near their HP bar that indicates what perk they have, and there's also a prophecy in the fated list that requires you to learn about what all the icons mean (if I remember correctly)
and yeah, pacts that mess with your boons and builds are generally some of the worst to take just 'cuz no one likes running around with a dud build
that said, by itself, underworld customs is actually pretty safe
reason being, as you start doing more runs, you'll start to realize you can end up with a bunch of boons that don't actually contribute too much to the end-game of your build anyway
like "do I realllly need this vengeance boon when my game plan doesnt involve getting hit a billion times?"
and yeah, as someone mentioned earlier, avoid heightened security like the plague when you're that early in your heated runs
getting one shotted by falling axes/sawblades/urns is not fun
if AP doesnt show you the blocked boons my psyche wouldnt be as irreparably damaged as it is when using it
that sounds cruel 
but aye now that ive started reading about the boons and their pathways and duos and stuff im catching myself with a lot of nonsense
sometimes you're forced to take the nonsense 'cuz it's not worth rerolling them/you ran out of rerolls
I hate poison so much. I had 2 dds and now I have no dds
and that's where underworld customs come into play
will i need to make a new game to do hell mode?
Ye
Why would I ever need that?
There is also a mod on pc to swap iirc
Why's that even an option
it sounds cool but idk about the time loss there....
What boon/item are you seeing?
i guess if im going to do hell mode i might as well do it asap
Does it say all or 1
All
But it's stubborn defiance
It can't not be there when you're in the room
so
There's nothing to be replenished
Patroclus with SD makes ur sd heal for 50% of ur max hp more for 15 encounters
This might be a translation error then, I suppose.
I'm using Chinese
+50%*
i said more
xd
i have no idea how my friend manages to be this lucky
yeah this is their second run and got sea storm right off the bat
and like thats not too rare i think
but im incredibly unlucky
It's just
A matter of time
Keep playing and you'll get your crazy lucky games
(Also the extremely unlucky ones)
Hey guys, I'm searching for Hades voice lines in-game. Looking for one where Hades says "Erebus", for a project.
Only pieces I can find of him are very low quality.
damn so apparently escaping with each weapon is quite helpful
got the titans blood did skellys favor then used the diamonds to ||free Achilles||
give me a fun build any weapons
dionysus special on chaos shield
why not
funny story i was playin on keyboard couldn't get past minos and the other one
someone told me to try using a controller did that beat hades first try
Bro i just fought EM3 Champs for the first time
I literally died laughing
WHO ALLOWED THAT
😂
thats when other guy gets a chariot right
Yeah dude the chariot
It's like a frickin Aston Martin
hades game
if there wasnt dad call, then dad call would pretty much be what id expect from hermes
except instead of ||invis||, it'd be dodge right?
prolly
you could make it something nutty like you move so fast that you summon an afterimage that mimics your actions
Imagine shadow clone Zagreus
Zagreus, the guy who wants to become the Hokage of the underworld so he can acquire the One piece and save society from Sukuna

with his hidden aspect bankai
Theseus needed a whole tank just so his fragile ego won't break

oh what if herme's call is: zagreus moves so fast that everything slows down to forced overtime negative 40% lol
ngl thatd make it harder for me to dodge stuff
maybe it’s just zagreus becomes filthy rich
that’s it thats the whole call
what, so prerequisite side hustle?
I mean it would be a funny foreshadow/callout to ||hermes' relation with charon|| as well
People who do RI2 are masochists
Ri2 below 50 heat
That was my first 32 heat. I didn't know any better.
The first time i looked at those pacts i went "not touching this outside of proohecy ever"
Same
Have people done Blindfolded speedrunning for Hades before?
Nope
Blindfolded runs were done but none of them are speedruns
And there isn't really any leaderboard/rules for them
aren't they basically impossible to optimise anyway
without help from someone looking at the screen that is
Well yea you cant really do a blindfolded run without assistance in some way
Because you'll die in Asphodel lava 

Ahh I see I see, that's understandable
From what I know, Usually they're done with the help of sound cues but when it is randomly generated rooms and enemies, it makes sense
Yea sound surely helps
There have been a few blind players on the server who have beaten the game.
wear a blindfold, go fast 
Wow really? That's some god tier stuff
@brisk trail gonna move the convo here
The in game timer pauses in a lot of spots throughout the game so the idea of a 10 minute run isn’t entirely out of the question
A big thing with speedrunning is knowing how to effectively get really strong builds and how to pilot those builds to effectively clear out rooms
And also getting free rooms so you don’t have to fight combats lol
lol imagine playing the game
im happiest when i get to play the game without playing the game
Truly the life of a hades speedruner

is it possible to buy more than 2 kiss of styx premium?
if 2 of my DDs are gone, can I rebuy both?
yeah
Yea multiple can spawn
there are also 2 athena boons that can regenerate DDs
if you run athena in your build, a good trick is to avoid taking those 2 DD boons early in the run when you still have all of your DDs
later on when elysium and styx come around, you'll likely run into athena again and they might come in handy
thats a good idea, thanks
I think the way the game works is that the first 4 gods that you choose in your run-- not including chaos/hermes, are the gods that get locked in
i.e. once you choose boons from 4 different gods, no other gods will show up for the rest of the run unless you force them with keepsakes
I do get boons from 5.-6. gods sometimes but very rarely
but yeah I did notice that you get the gods you already picked more often
this is important when you run athena cuz once pick a boon from athena (i.e. her dash), that means there's a good chance athena will show up again in the later areas--giving you access to revives in elysium and styx
tho sometimes it's not up to you, many times there is only 1 next chamber with a boon, so sometimes you just can't build some gods unless you keepsake them
mhm
but yeah it's something to keep in mind that if you have 0 athena boons in your build by the time you hit styx, you're not getting those juicy revives unless you keepsake her
and at that point, you're probably better off running using acorn or something to keep you alive
I think so (??!) I think one of the tunnels should show up with the god you choose
could be wrong tho since I basically never run them in styx lol
thing is, if you're in the hypothetical scenario where you're trying to run athena keepsake in styx for the revive, the best case is that you get 1 extra revive
cuz if you have 0 athena boons by the time you hit styx, charon's shop sure as hell won't have an athena boon waiting for you
at that point, you might as well just equip the acorn and hope for the best lol
pray for a patty
pray for a well inside one of the tunnels you chose
what would be the least spoilery explanation of what i need to do in order to unlock all the legendary weapon aspects?
ok for styx, yeah
so far i have spear and bow
Spend blood, talk to people(?)
how many 32heat runs i failed cuz none of the styx wells had DD...
as in, upgrading weapons?
Ye
i remember there was some specific ruling
you unlock them basically the exact same way except as you did with bow and spear, except with other NPCs
was it, have at least 5 blood spent on a weapon?
Yes
I think so? either way, just spend some blood on at least 1 aspect from each weapon and keep talking to everyone and eventually you'll get them all
alrighty thanks!
Spear is the only different requisite
didnt even realize i got the hidden fists wake words lol
What’s a good way to practice not taking damage
does anyone else's game get laggy when you spam special with fists?
Even with 15 wins under my belt I’m still trash at dodging certain attacks
Obverse the enemies from a distance
Really focus on their attack patterns
Most enemies only have 1 or 2 attacks
Then it becomes about being able to react to multiple of them
Or keep one alive and dodge around it
Throw on the butterfly and get the bonus as high as possible
Just keep doing runs honestly
But keep that goal in your mind and dont be reckless
Learn to empty dash and iframe stuff
at melee range
like dashing through a dad or theseus spin
instead of backing away
helps you realize how iframes work and when you should be dashing etc
That was my best thesus and Asterius
Only took23 damage at the end of the fight
And it was my first time correctly timing to hit both of them with meg instead of just thesus
I still struggle with the double meg hit
Just tap up as soon as you enter then hit summon
I still died to hades though even after not losing any defiances. Ugh
yes, I think this might be the most common rookie mistake
when you do other actions in the middle of your dash, I believe you cut your invuln frames short
so while it's fun to rapidly smash buttons like a gorilla- especially when you have fun boons that encourage that kind of gameplay...at the end of the day, it's important to know how and when you use your dashes to also maximize survivability while maintaining that offense
man I don't know how people do fresh file runs
aside from losing death/stubborn defiances, the absolutely most brutal part of doing a fresh file/no mirror run is only having 1 dash
Yeee new pb
25 mins
Yup
Your profile pic reminds me of this white pride guy form Sons of Anarchy lol
It looks a little alike
lol
its Nacho from better call saul
A J Weston
does look kinda similar lol
Especially when it's little on the phone
yep
Your pic reminds me of the bloody Baron
Guys i need your opinions about Privileged Status and Family Favorite. Do you change it depending on the build you're planning? Do you always use the same? I feel like its very easy to get 2 curse so i'm always using PS now but i could be wrong? I need your opinions/tips ^^
yeah true ^^
Priv is for hangover builds/passion flare + snow burst mostly
And if it involves artemis you probably want fav cause mark isnt reliable enough for priv
usually go with privileged status
I have the same question with Gods' pride and Gods' legacy. Im always using Legacy because i like duo boons but i feel like sometimes getting some epic boons would be better
is there a way to get extra casts that isnt chaos btw
Depends too
Eris rail for example doesnt care about duos/legendaries but benefits from better hermes/jolted/tidal dash
Okay 🙂 well thanks for the tips !
Any time you want artemis on special or attack you ussualy want FF becuase marked sucks for PS youd have to have a curse on dash to make it work which is a bit unreliable. Whereas some builds seastorm can trigger it with just 1 attack. Aside from crit builds tho i usually go PS, unless im stressed atm and i dont want to worry about curses lol.
as for Legacy, unless theres 2+ duos or legendaries you want in the build you have planned, go pride
can you still fight hades if he letts me go
nup
sad
thx
Thoughts?
https://twitter.com/jamie_landrum/status/1487929452868689922?t=3cDytROLcokmDj5ThbIBwQ&s=19
has many things wrong but 2 right theseus and artemis
yeah
Incredibly based top S, very conflicted on below F, F could use a lot of work
Glad we can all agree that F tier needs to be improved
yep
This tierlist is missing bouldy
eurydice slander
They really do be disrespecting my girl Eurydice how dare they
And we need to put bouldy on there too
Post to Imgur then paste the link
ok
or post it to dms or another server and paste media link
im not a big nix fan
Great Theseus tier tho
I’m not surprised yoy noticed 
Terrible, dear lordt
Meg, Nyx S, Achilles A, Demeter should get her own tier between D and Theseus
I’m really conflicted on thesues because his character is such a douche and he may have killed me more times than I like to admit but no dialogue makes me laugh more than his and the “complicated” narrator death message
"So complicated is the path to the well-hidden cottage of Persephone that surface-walking Zagreus on this particular occasion sadly zigs instead of zags, plummeting from off a precipice into most-familiar waters…"
Nyx bouley def s
bouldy above s
hmm cold fusion or storm lightning
Depends if you can get the legendary afterward/how often you are applying jolted
okay so I was just pondering with some ideas for cast based daedalus hammer upgrades for cast based aspects
aye it was right before zeus so i went cold fusion
like what if for hera/beowulf, there would be a hammer upgrade that loads all bloodstones simultaneously with a single button press? it would be kind a double edged sword in some cases -- if you know your attack is gonna overkill smaller enemies, sometimes you dont want to load everything at once
meme build, posideon sword + zeus cast + exit wounds
but against minibosses/bosses, you basically get to turn your brain off
I guess beowulf exclusive unyielding defense is a cast based hammer-- which is honestly a shame since other weapons that can make use of casts get kinda shafted
other fun ideas could include giving small bonuses when you pick up a bloodstone
chaos just gave me the shield words but i have the bow ?
I love how whether we like him or not, we all agree Theseus is his own tier. Where that tier is placed is the subject of contention.
the actual waking phrase does not require you to have the "correct" weapon equipped
oh are we tierlisting again
i agree
been reading other greek myth based media and Man is Poseidon a total sexist jerk
feel bad for liking him so much in the game
and then we have zeus mates with evrything he finds
thesus used to scare me but the last couple of times ive accidentally killed him before minos
how else did Zag have so many cousins
true
cousins from Poseidon's side DLC when /s
is there a setting for making the game not pause when i alt tab
its good taht itbpaues imagine alt tabbing and dying
id rather be able to control pauses with escape key tho
or your timer heat forgot name keeps ticking to zero
tech support might have answers
I like it cuz it lets me occasionally alt tab to double check on some discord chat or to make sure OBS didn't crap out on me if I was recording a run
aye ill ask tech supp
Wait till you read about Zeus
was referring to my tierlist lol
All that said, Greek mythos is based on a patriarchal society, so most (if not all) myths have super sexist themes. In fact, a lot of myths have been reshaped to be made palatable to more modern audiences because oh my god they were bad
Yup
wow you guys have a nendroid...that is cool
yeah most of the greek gods are just sex offenders/some of the goddesses too... i kinda wonder why they even teach these in schools...even if edited you grow up and learn how horrible a situation was
It's still valuable to learn from both a literary and historical perspective. That's a brief BRIEF summation of a whole rant I am trying to withhold about why even problematic literature should continue to be taught (see recent incident with Maus), but again, I am going to hold myself back lmao
Not to mention a lot of marginalized groups have reclaimed these stories as their own, and it's amazing. Hadestown is another amazing example of reclaimed Greek myths that retells Orpheus and Eurydice through a lens that incorporates capitalism, climate change, and even feminism.
(Lmao this is why I am hoping to create a Banned Book Club at my uni)
omg swnd me the link for tbe tier list
for real, the ancient greek civilization absolutely hated women for some reason and man,,, jts sad to think abt sometimes
greek mythology has been a huge interest kf mine since i was in 2nd grade tho jts kinda silly
Man this game would be so much better with dlc
kind of sad that we aren’t getting any
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924535966243369020/937923519088574525/IMG_7116.png i like most of thr character tbh
hermes at the top, everyone else in F tier for me (apart from bouldy and cerb who gets honorary mention)
out of curiousity have you seen what supergiant has said in an interview regarding dlc
oh my god hermes’ +3 dash charges IS SO FUN




