h1-discussion

[flint spade]

Actually the wiki helped me a lot during a few runs. Having to figure out how to get the favors for some npcs and stuff

[high island]

340ms for a perfect catch.

[flint spade]

Wow

[tribal sleet]

the World jf adhd wasnt so Bothersome

[autumn ether]

So far I've still been enjoying not looking anything up. But I know there'll come a time

[high island]

There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. And from what I can tell, fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous fake bob.

Your hash icons aren't default for either IGT or RTA, hence my question.

[autumn ether]

Time to wear the Poseidon keepsake and buy those lures when I see em

[flint spade]

Wish I was that fast 😅

Bugs me a lot when my catch it's just rare

[gray apex]

I think they might be default for rta

[feral belfry]

Even if you're fast I think it's still 50/50 if it'll be rare or not

[flint spade]

Yeah :/

[lone kernel]

yeah, i tinker with the settings all the time

but its via that one modpack

i can send u screenshots if u want, but i'm not really sure what your question is

beyond "whatever mods lando picked that run"

[high island]

Eh, don't worry about it.

This'll be good enough, I guess.

[lone kernel]

You can pick default rulesets on it tho

It was a real pain to install, the guys on modding discord helped a lot. Lmk if anything else u need, happy speedrunning

[high island]

No, I know how the mod works. Don't worry about it.

[lone kernel]

You got it. Happy hunting

Some js3 40 heats so you don’t need to go customs stonks

[livid nymph]

Fought Hades for the first time he hits like a truck

[merry bane]

four left https://imgur.com/RDKwUKf

[high island]

Hmm?

[autumn ether]

Grats on reaching him! It definitely took a few attempts before I realized what abilities would be useful and what to watch out for.

[lone kernel]

you randomly had a 40 heat run a few weeks ago without customs on

it was like...damn, that's dedication to not feeding one's self to 🐊

[high island]

Oh, I was just doing EM4 runs.

[lone kernel]

Word. Try Aphrodite’s aid I hear it can be helpful

[livid nymph]

So how do I deal with hades now that I fought him? I was doing well and brought his life pretty low until I dead to one of those enemies who send a shockwave when killed

[lone kernel]

You’ll get better just by playing. Now you know what to look for and how to dodge

so next time you’re better prepared to win

[twin thistle]

well you want to destroy those skulls before they explode for one

[lone kernel]

Also that

[brisk trail]

the green skulls send a shockwave when not killed

if the timer on their head expires and theyre alive

[strong ridge]

i don’t understand the speedrun board

[versed mason]

what about it is confusin ya?

[strong ridge]

is it like

the people at the bottom had the fastest time in the past

or it’s just like a leaderboard

[twin thistle]

leaderboard

[strong ridge]

thank

[wispy hull]

Hey how do I get the locked heart for meg?

[strong ridge]

||i think it has something to do with her sisters|| but you could try the wiki

[wispy hull]

Alright ty

I looked it up and got the answer @strong ridge , tysm!

[strong ridge]

np

[frail wedge]

Bro one of my friends got to the Elysium on his third run with Cursed Slash Zag Sword

[strong ridge]

tbh cursed is probably more worthwhile in abscence of thick skin

so

nice

[brisk trail]

cursed needs thick even more

with healing u need some max hp so u dont get one shot and have time to heal it all back

[livid nymph]

Why is there a locked heart for Hermes?

[brisk trail]

need to do his favor to finish it

[versed moon]

what weapon should i use / upgrade to get my first clear

[brisk trail]

whichever is most fun for u

[versed moon]

i think its between the shield and the gloves

[brisk trail]

shield is considered pretty noob friendly because of the block so that works

[autumn ether]

The shield has been the most reliable one for me. Not the fastest, but all I need is that Daedalus upgrade that turns bullrush into a piercing shot and the rest is 🍰

[last veldt]

That is very safe as a build.

[versed moon]

i have 3 titane blood

where did i get those

[brisk trail]

beating first boss on different weapons

[last veldt]

Furries at a guess

[brisk trail]

thats 1 too many r’s

[last veldt]

Ha

You don't know what they do at the weekend

[versed moon]

wait so there are different aspects to each weapon and each aspect has different levels

[last veldt]

Yup

[brisk trail]

yea, try to buy aspect which are decent at low level

[versed moon]

which one do u recommend for shield

[brisk trail]

aspect of zues is a good one

its good at low level if u get something like zues or dionysus special on it

[versed moon]

ight ill unlock it now

my shield looking drippy now

[brisk trail]

try to get a win with that cuz until u start winning u dont get much blood

[versed moon]

ill try to get to those two guys again

btw its been 7 months since i last played and i came back today

[autumn ether]

Welcome back

[versed moon]

i got electric shot from the start i like that one

[versed moon]

ty

[lone kernel]

if im running zeus call and have aphro attack and smair, and i get a zeus boon that offers double strike and jolted, which do i take

[signal aspen]

idk take the one with higher rarity

[mint coral]

I say d.strike cause even with smair you arent applying jolted that fast

[brisk trail]

i second d strike cuz u wanna open splitting bolt

[feral belfry]

I would avoid hard labor for a while, extra damage is one of the harder boons. Start with feeling comfortable with tight deadlines

[polar quail]

Alright

So what’s with middle management

[feral belfry]

The pact that makes mini bosses have extra moves is basically free because there are few mini bosses and they're generally easy, especially with megs companion

[polar quail]

Ok I’ll try that at the next heat level

[feral belfry]

If the first boss fight becomes very easy to you and you never die, then do Extreme Measures 1

It makes the first boss harder, but then you're free for the rest of the run

Hard labor makes the bosses hit very hard

You basically want to put it on once you get hit rarely

That should be good for your first 5 heat or so ! GL

[brave aspen]

Idk where to ask this, but are there any news about Zagreus figurine?

[flint spade]

Umm, figurine? Like his clothes?

[brave aspen]

No wait

Like merchendise

Figure

[flint spade]

OH, ok. Okaaay, sorry

Bad English here hahah

[crystal marten]

is Extreme Measures the only modifier with story stuff?

[flint spade]

Well, I guess that supergiant has something at their page. I'll check tomorrow for you

[brave aspen]

I will be thankfull, cause all i have seen was news from may 2021 and nothing more.

[flint spade]

Prophecy, you mean?

If I'm not mistaken, there's another prophecy besides the Sea Gods Spite

[crystal marten]

I mean Pact of Punishment

[flint spade]

Oh, right. Then I guess is the only one

[mint ember]

I kinda like guan yu just for the special

Its very strong

[spice aspen]

If I play on 1 heat does it also unlock the 0 heat bounties?

[hearty mural]

No, you get the bounties of 0 heat and then can do another 1 heat run for the 1 heat bounties

[last veldt]

Oddly no

But also you can have zero heat unfinished on a weapon and a non zero heat run unfinished.

So zero heat is slightly special but not in a way that matters much

[mint coral]

Yeah 0 heat bounties can be skipped

[last veldt]

@polar quail if you want to do a non default sword aspect run, I recommend Poseidon aspect with a big crush shot cast

[brisk trail]

poseiden is kinda like a worse achillies

[last veldt]

Yeah but they said they wanted a sword run

The only sword I go with normally is Arthur

[feral belfry]

Poseidon is great if you hate the sword

[last veldt]

But I doubt they have it yet

[feral belfry]

Like me

[polar quail]

Yeah I don’t think I have any sword aspects

Plus I only have 1 titans blood

[livid nymph]

So when you beat hades and reach Greece for the first time do the gods really not know when it happened? I beat hades and I’m barely getting any mention of it when I get a boon

[last veldt]

Then pick your favourite other weapon and go a farming

[polar quail]

Sounds good, I’ll do another eris rail run

[last veldt]

There are some prophecies which drop a bunch of Titan blood too

Might be worth clearing one of those if you're close

[polar quail]

There’s the one for clearing with all infernal arms

[last veldt]

Reaching the surface only

[polar quail]

Oh really?

[last veldt]

You don't need to win I think

One of them is about getting to the surface only

[polar quail]

I don’t think I’m close with the others but I’ll check after this run

[last veldt]

If it says "escape the realm" then you only have to get to Dad

[tribal sleet]

yeah , like the hidden aspects

once u reach the surface the prophecy is fufilled

[tribal sleet]

nope !!!

[polar quail]

Yup it said reach surface

[last veldt]

I don't remember the exact conditions for the one with all weapons

[polar quail]

I can get ten titans blood from it

[last veldt]

There you go

[polar quail]

I’ll do that after I do farming since I’m not sure I’ll reach it with the base sword

[livid nymph]

Wow, so rumors no reach them?

[last veldt]

Just grab splash dash and ignore sword

[tribal sleet]

nopeee theyre not supposed to jnow or theyll get suspicious yk

i dont know if they can exactly See that too but idrk

[polar quail]

Or

[last veldt]

It's explained in dialogue

There are plenty of cast builds or dash builds where the weapon doesn't matter much

[polar quail]

Oh

What’s a good one

[last veldt]

Splash dash, flood shot, Zeus on call, sea storm, double strike and jolted

And razor Shoals

Or Dionysus cast, Scintillating Feast, splash dash etc..

On zero heat a dash only run is quite doable

[feral belfry]

Just get smoldering air

On Poseidon call

Then you don't have to attack again

I did that for my first fist clear cause I didn't know how to fight with them, never attacked

[calm zenith]

Or even just do dash strikes

Just get double edge. Tidal dash should still let it hit right?

But yeah tidal dash + tier 2s or even duos is enough dps especially if it's just base aspect of zagreus sword

Just pom your dash a lot

4-6 is usually the end and breakpoint but a common tidal dash may need a little more.

Epic and its easy

Like tidal dash makes Styx rooms, not the big rooms as much, ridiculously easy and quick

Get Breaking Wave and Typhoon's Fury and enemies will pinball to death in room corners

Razor Shoals for bosses mostly

It's the easiest dash build

[last veldt]

And Elysium. Most enemies there run around a lot, so RS is really effective

[calm zenith]

Yeah true

All bosses move around a decent bit. Except maybe the Furies oddly

Ig because they're the first boss

A good RS will actually do a LOT of damage

[last veldt]

RS plus jolted from sea storm is devastating in Elysium

And Hermes for extra damage on splash dash

[polar quail]

I’m at the midpoint of asphodel and I only have 2 boons

[last veldt]

Are they good ones?

[polar quail]

Flood shot and Zeus call

Poseidon hasn’t shown up again

[feral belfry]

Rip

[last veldt]

So hope for sea storm from either of them

[polar quail]

Ok

[last veldt]

Not necessarily rip. What did you get instead? Health? Non core boons

[polar quail]

Yes health.

[last veldt]

Razor Shoals and sea storm are priorities probably in that order. Splash dash too or any good dash at this point

Don't hold out for a perfect build forever

[polar quail]

As long as I make it to the surface I can get ten titans blood so hopefully this works out, im kinda running out of time but I got 4 minutes left so it should be fine

Stygian blade is..not my favorite weapon

[last veldt]

Me neither in default aspect

[calm zenith]

Yeah

[last veldt]

Remember to switch keepsakes after hydra

[polar quail]

Sea storm appeared

[last veldt]

Also maybe skip hammer room for gods you want at this point since you're betting on cast

Yay

Now you can take advantage of double strike and jolted

On your cast

Take Poseidon dash if it appears now

[polar quail]

Tidal dash appeared

[last veldt]

Nice. It's late but it's coming together. Now focus on 2nd tier Zeus or Razor Shoals.

[polar quail]

Let’s hope I don’t die to tight deadline though, I have 1:50 left, this went much slower since im not used to using Stygian blade

[last veldt]

Now you're just dashing everywhere. Put the weapon away.

[polar quail]

Ok

[last veldt]

Razor Shoals and jolted will make the build really viable now.

Hermes might even bless you with an extra dash or more speed (damage of splash dash depends on speed)

[last veldt]

Well, and casting

[polar quail]

I was so close to losing that I lost all my dds and got to really low health

But I did it

Replenished one

[last veldt]

To Elysium or out?

[polar quail]

To elysium

Hopefully pat shows up

[last veldt]

Yeah, that's the hope.

Swap keepsake if you need to

[polar quail]

Swapped to the acorn

Only 2 gods matter for this build right?

[last veldt]

Pretty much but take what you can tbh since it's still underpowered

Putting something on attack or special still opens up tier 2 boons and duos

So don't take unwanted coins over gods

[polar quail]

I skipped the hammer and I got Demeter room. Frost strike, flourish, or ravenous will?

[last veldt]

Ravenous will is the one that boosts when you have no casts?

[polar quail]

Yes

[last veldt]

If it's rare or epic, take that tbh

[polar quail]

It’s common

[last veldt]

Urgh, probably flourish then.

Slows enemies slightly in an area

And does a bit of damage

Whichever is rarer of the others then

[polar quail]

Lightning strike, static discharge, or high voltage? Probably the first but I just want to be sure

[last veldt]

Hang on, why do you have TD on for getting out first time with sword?

Static discharge

[polar quail]

Ok in hindsight that was probably a bad idea

[last veldt]

100% static discharge once you have sea storm on a wet build

That's just free damage to everything you go near

[polar quail]

I’m just trying to make it to the surface for the titans blood reward so I probably should’ve turned it off

[last veldt]

You know that the heat thing is different per weapon right?

You can be 20 heat on one and be getting rewards on 2 heat for another

If you get razor shoals or a good double strike or Zeus legendary you can probably get out altogether

... the suspense is killing me

[polar quail]

Yeah

We’ll see

I’m fighting thesus and asterius

[last veldt]

Good luck!

[polar quail]

Pat wasn’t there unfortunately

[last veldt]

Cast, cast, cast, dash dash pause dash dash

Repeat

[polar quail]

Killed them just as I was about to take deadline damage

[last veldt]

Wooot

Remember your call too. Zeus call is best used in small chunks rather than waiting for it to get full

[polar quail]

Yeah I used him during the battle

[last veldt]

Nice

Did you keep your DD?

[polar quail]

Yes

[last veldt]

I think you might be sorted then, for getting to Dad at least

[polar quail]

I think that’s my first time not losing a dd to that fight actually

[last veldt]

Pom things like static discharge as they scale well

Splash dash too

If you didn't get razor shoals yet, that's the biggest missing piece

But double strike also really good

[polar quail]

I got cold fusion

No razor shoals yet

I was able to replenish one dd

Do I roll for razor shoals? I found the sack

Oh wait it’s Poseidon

[last veldt]

You mean go another tunnel?

[polar quail]

Yeah there’s no Poseidon anywhere I think

[last veldt]

Cold fusion good for you

Very good in fact

[polar quail]

Billowing strength, double strike, or lightning reflexes?

[last veldt]

Double

[polar quail]

Ok let’s see how this goes

Either way I get ten titans blood

[last veldt]

Billowing is okay but you're betting on constant jolted damage

Yay!

Good luck!

(note to self, it'd be hilarious if this was 10th Dad fight)

[polar quail]

Defeat dad by dashing through the snow

[last veldt]

Shame you didn't get shoals

But it turned out okay as a build in the end

[polar quail]

YO I WON

[last veldt]

Yay

Nice one

[polar quail]

This was the easiest dad fight ever

Somehow

[last veldt]

See, stygius is best weapon after all

[polar quail]

He kept taking damage from the chill, lightning and dash at once

[last veldt]

Synergistic combos are the key

[polar quail]

My very first streak of two runs in a row

[last veldt]

Well, congrats and I'm of to bed now. Save some of that Titan blood btw, there are some hidden aspects you'll want to use later

[polar quail]

Goodnight!

[storm atlas]

Hello
I have my first win as well

[polar quail]

Congratulations

[last veldt]

Remember to post a screen shot

[storm atlas]

I did

just now lol

[mossy adder]

Just so y'all are aware, in 30 minutes or so GDQ is starting their Hades race, All Weapons run between cgull and tounis.

Which is bound to be awesome so check it out.

[storm atlas]

is there a way to check your win streak?

[polar quail]

Yes

It shows on the victory screen

[storm atlas]

oh lol

[polar quail]

Let’s go I have 12 titans blood now

Idk what I’m going to use it on but I’m done playing for today

See you all tomorrow

[mint coral]

Cgull got full ME setup (tart) in the race rn

[mossy adder]

It's nuts.

[lunar pelican]

Ayyy you guys did it!

I’m on a 5 win streak 30 something runs in

But not playing tonight I’m 4 gin and sodas in

Boutta be Dionysus vs hades if I play

[mossy adder]

They are just tearing the game apart ❤️

[lunar pelican]

How do you sign up for these races?

[chrome wharf]

this

[high island]

lol

[mossy adder]

https://discord.com/invite/zN7cc8Z

[lunar pelican]

Siiick y’all gonna see me there sometime

Imma be the first person to speed run the game while taking a pee

[tribal sleet]

i kinda wanna try that tbh

[lunar pelican]

Give it a run

I think it’ll break tos so I can’t do it on stream unfortunately lmfao

[high island]

Good rooms beat good builds more often than not anyway in races.

And tounisu beats everyone more often than not.

[mint coral]

Yeah i can see it

Pretty fun to watch

Oh em4 time

[lunar pelican]

Does cpu run faster than console generally?

[mint coral]

Pc? Yeah

If you run igt it doesnt matter at least

[vapid narwhal]

man the RNGesus smiles on tonisu today

wait a min why do they have SD + 3DD

[mint coral]

InfiniDD, they get penalty time if they lose SD but run doesnt end

[vapid narwhal]

Ah good to know

[mint coral]

It was one of the changes

[mossy adder]

Racing safety

[slim grail]

i didnt see any other players

is there a lobby? guys

a lobby that i can see other players?

[chrome wharf]

it's a party in the speedrun server

[brisk trail]

@chrome wharf what do RTA and IGT stand for

[chrome wharf]

Real time attack (ie irl time) and In-game time (use the in built timer)

[brisk trail]

why is "attack" in a measurement for time

[runic parrot]

time attack is a synonym for time trials

anything that involves going for the fastest time

[azure maple]

just started using aspect of hera recently, having a ton of fun 😌

using aphrodite cast

[mint ember]

My favorite so far is nemesis

Very funny big numbers

Zag bow does the same but less often

I wanna max out poseidon and do some funny cast only runs

[runic parrot]

yes. good.

use the funny cast sword

[calm cove]

gods legacy or pride?

[spice hearth]

if you really need a specific duo boon for the build to work, god's legacy, if not god's pride all the way

[hearty mural]

~~merciful end||

[gray apex]

Usually it's Pride with merciful End actually

But for consistency Legacy is fine yea

[last veldt]

I honestly don't remember the last time I got offered ME.

I kinda gave up on Ares after a while

[flint spade]

Yeah, Ares has good boons for magical damage, but at some point those are the least important to survive a run

Unless the build is focused on special attack and high damage over a few secs

[last veldt]

I like battle rage on Arthur

[flint spade]

Gods, yessssss

Arthur is my favorite for everything

[last veldt]

Doing a crit with battle rage on the 3rd strike of Arthur's combo and taking it 6 enemies in Elysium from full health to nothing is so satisfying

[flint spade]

Never tried this. I'll put on a note

I'm switching weapons constantly to complete the prophecies

[last veldt]

It's more reliable with Artemis on attack, but Aphrodite gives bigger base damage and you can aim for Hunter's Mark

So Aphrodite attack, Artemis special and Hunter's Mark and Battle Rage

[flint spade]

Hunters is insaaaane. Got my first try today, precisely to the duo boon prophecy

[last veldt]

Hit with special and plough through everything with an attack combo

[flint spade]

Got it

I feel bad that Ares isn't that good for some builds. Is my fav god (and the only one that I can cosplay lol)

[ashen plover]

i like his dash vortex thing

[spice hearth]

i dunno, i feel like i don't really mind seeing Ares ever on a run

but it's true he doesn't have a lot of secondary synergies with most builds

the bigger problem is blade vortex feels lackluster unless you build for it specifically

[brisk trail]

i had 60% movement speed and 45% dodge chance but i still lost LMAO

fist is rough

[strong ridge]

vortex is way better on dash than cast

since the dash circles don’t care about environment like cast does

[south sapphire]

i keep getting lag spikes for some reason

[polar quail]

@last veldt so what should I spend my titans blood on, I’ve got chiron bow lvl 1, zagreus bow lvl 5, aspect of talos, aspect of eris, zeus shield and I think that’s it basically

[last veldt]

What's your preferred play style?

Chiron is flexible and powerful at full unlock, but it'll eat most of your Titan blood of you only have it at level one. Eris also very good at full unlock.

Personally I like Talos, but most say Demeter is far superior, so maybe hold off on maxing that if it's not your favourite.

[strong ridge]

dump blood into eris and win

[last veldt]

Chiron has more combinations of hammers that work for it than Eris I think, but you can't really go wrong with either.

Just max out the one of those you think you'll enjoy playing most, since you'll be using this to farm a lot of Titan blood for the other aspects

[strong ridge]

eris does global damage buff to everything
chiron has like 2 or 3 builds that really shine with it imo
that said i am an avid chiron supporter just that eris is deadbrain and global damage buff

[last veldt]

I know, I just have a personal preference for bows really.

[strong ridge]

it’s my favorite non-cheesy aspect (chiron)

[lone kernel]

honestly, i prefer zag to chiron

just feels cleaner to play

maybe im weird

and bad

[south sapphire]

anyone here?

[strong ridge]

are we

[arctic marten]

I really love tisiphones battle

Plus the dialogue

[strong ridge]

i hate bow atk lol i live for chiron special dopamine delivery

[arctic marten]

The arc from murder to zagreus kinda wholesome tho

[south sapphire]

i wanna share a screenshot

where can i

[strong ridge]

victory

boasting

[lone kernel]

fair enough

took me a while to get into zag bow

and its super hammer dependent

but it gets me into that flow state

like a good zag bow run is a power fantasy

well, so is a good every run

but idk i get into a rhythm

feels good man

[strong ridge]

i feel like bow falls apart with dc but barring that it can be awful fun to run around 1shotting like most everything

[devout terrace]

rama deals well with it

because you special then dash strike

but yeah other ones really struggle with it

[strong ridge]

big if true

[gray apex]

It is

Rama DC is no problem

[arctic marten]

Do i HAVE to go to patrocolus again for achilles to spawn

I voided the contract talked to achilles and he left

Do i have to go to patrocolus?

[lone kernel]

i think so, yes

[arctic marten]

Kill me noooo

Back to rng patrocolus

[lone kernel]

youll get him

[hearty mural]

Achilles hunting blades is insane, I didn’t even get vicious cycle or engulfing vortex

[flint spade]

Gods, vicious cicle is SO amazing

Got that for the prophecy. I legit became a cutting machine with it 😅

[hearty mural]

What’s the best cast for beo? I just got it after 80 attempts

[mint coral]

Flood for speed, passion for high heat

Trippy flare is also fun

[old tapir]

flood also gets you halfway to mirage shot which is insanely op with beo

[hearty mural]

So they keep their respective damage and effects buts it’s like an explosion at the end of the bull rush instead of a projectile?

[mint coral]

Yup

No lodge

[old tapir]

there's a bug where with beo the mirage shot does more damage than it's supposed to

[hearty mural]

I heard it’s bugged and doubles damage instead of 30%

[mint coral]

Also beo is a broken aspect

[hearty mural]

I’ve heard which is why I’m annoyed to get it as my last aspect

[mint coral]

Trippy flare also receives double value from poms on beo

[old tapir]

Lmao I also got it last

just wasn't talking to chaos enogh

[hearty mural]

Chaos would talk about everything but my shield

[old tapir]

BIG MOOD

[strong ridge]

mirage cast is bugged on beo and causes you to do 2x more cast damage
so you want to get at least artemis and poseidon
i’m not sure what the mets is for the bloodstone preference but for infernal soul if you get auto reload>bad news that’s another 2x damage.
then use chaos to get more stones or damage

probably try to work aphro in there to get pom power

[hearty mural]

Wait and the titan blood bonus is just cast damage or the cast loaded rush damage bonus?

[high island]

Bad News is Stygian Soul exclusive.

[strong ridge]

xd idk names man

[high island]

Woman.

[mint coral]

Lvls give more dmg/aoe to attack after loading cast

Dragon rush*

[hearty mural]

So a wider rush but not more cast damage

[high island]

Beowulf levels are definitely worth it, but it's still very powerful at low levels.

[strong ridge]

i don’t use man as a gendered term but sorry if it bothered you

[old tapir]

flood beo is the speedrun wr

[lone kernel]

Beo L1 can do like, 70% of what L5 beo can

[lone kernel]

pro tip: call everyone fam or buddy

[mint coral]

Hera is the wr unmodded

[signal aspen]

it has beo speedrun wr but not overall wr

[old tapir]

ah, i misread the leaderboard

[high island]

How do you not use man gendered?

[old tapir]

non-literally. imagine a surfer accent

[high island]

'Twas a rhetorical question.

Anyway, moving on.

[old tapir]

side note but this is the internet full stops at the end of message read insanely passive aggressive

[high island]

Okay.

[old tapir]

allow me to modify my statement. beo is the shield aspect that speedrunners use

[raw herald]

The runs are fairly recent, if you haven’t checked the leaderboard in the last week or 2, you wouldn’t have known.

Beo was WR for like 4 months before

[old tapir]

ohhhh ok thats the issue

[raw herald]

Rama was like 2 weeks ago and hera was 3 days after that

[old tapir]

yeah i haven't checked the leaderboard in a few weeks, the last wr i watched was the beo 5:32 with 22min rta

[mint coral]

Modded has Achilles 4:55 too

[lone kernel]

I got a sub-10 eris

so i'm the top of the lando leaderboard

[strong ridge]

yes!

[chrome wharf]

there are certain languages where the male pronoun doubles as the gender neutral one

whether that's desirable or not is another question

[high island]

Funny how it's always the male ones.

[versed mason]

even cooler languages where language is divided into animate and inanimate, and a lot more stuff is in animate than you'd think it's very cool

[flint spade]

Wow, that's actually nice!

[versed mason]

wait why was this brought up lol oops

[flint spade]

Hahah it happens

[chrome wharf]

German is the only one I know where they and she are the same, and even then they're conjugated differently

[lone kernel]

Imagine not failing Spanish in high school

[polar quail]

Oh I also have eris rail. Forgot that one

I did enjoy playing with eris rail

[livid nymph]

Is dionysus’s call good?

[lone kernel]

Yep

It’s not something you can really build around like how Zeus aid would be, but it hits hard enough that it’s a totally valid choice

[raw herald]

Just don’t use it at the same time as other hangover

[lone kernel]

Note that aphro dio duo is useless for it tho

[raw herald]

Cause they don’t stack

[high island]

It's not useless.

[raw herald]

Yeah it’s pretty good

[polar quail]

I never used any aspects on the spear. What’s a good one to start with

[raw herald]

Achilles

Get a cast, Pom it, and watch it shred

[last veldt]

With Achilles maxed out it's very good. Only minimum level is okay but not amazing.

[polar quail]

Hm, so should I try it or farm for more titans blood first

Maxing it will probably take a lot of it

So I should probably take another one?

[last veldt]

About 15

[polar quail]

Yeah

[last veldt]

How much blood do you still have?

[polar quail]

I have 12. I still haven’t spent any yet

I just opened the game

[raw herald]

Spread it out before committing to an aspect

[last veldt]

Then Eris or Chiron based on what we were talking about earlier.

A couple of levels in each maybe?

[polar quail]

Sounds good

Chiron didn’t make a difference at level 1, but putting a few levels in it should help

[last veldt]

Achilles is a good spear aspect for people who don't like playing spear

At level 1, Dionysus is the only viable god for special

[lone kernel]

how so? call expires around 3-4 stacks of hangover

it's def amazing on charon, i meant for the call use case

[polar quail]

Is lvl 3 chiron good enough?

[lone kernel]

aphro attack dio flourish chiron

stonks

[polar quail]

I have 7 titans blood left

[lone kernel]

getting to 5 arrows so you can get a full hangover stack

is the magic break point number

idr the level offhand but

do taht

[last veldt]

It's going to feel much better at level 3. Aim to get Relentless Volley

Or concentrated Volley

[lone kernel]

3 gets you to the 5 arrows i think

[last veldt]

6 I thought

[lone kernel]

concentrated is ideal when its for damaging special

oh is it 6? idr

[polar quail]

It said six in the description

[lone kernel]

just have five arrows and use hangover lol

if its six thats fine

[last veldt]

Level one is 4

[south sapphire]

Wats in the room in the house of hades u unlock after true ending

[lone kernel]

word. been a while lol

[last veldt]

Samey cloaks

[lone kernel]

||resources director, place to spend ur money after u unlock everything. more or less a prestige system||

(spoilers for courtesy to others)

[south sapphire]

kk

[polar quail]

I got concentrated volley in the first room

[last veldt]

Nice

That'll buff the damage output

It doesn't add more arrows but the last one does a fair bit more now

[polar quail]

Ok that was kind of embarrassing 🥲

Lost time at the furies

I’m using tight deadline and extreme measures 1 since that fight is still easy

[lone kernel]

td1 is free

td2 is a little sweat

td3 is required to join team sweaty tryhard if thats your goal

ts 36/28/20 min total so

once youre getting 28 reliably enjoy your two free heat

[twin thistle]

im a casual tho

[lone kernel]

unbased

git gud

[high island]

You first.

[lone kernel]

real talk tho, i need to just do the same run multiple times

that will help me get better

[craggy verge]

Hows it useless? it gives more hangover stacks

[lone kernel]

because dio call wont last long enough to get to 6 stacks

it's not useless

that was just for that one use case

[craggy verge]

Ohh i see

[lone kernel]

i've had many quality runs about love, alcohol and centaurs

with that duo

that were stonks

[craggy verge]

[lone kernel]

@high island is our resident aphro expert and im sure knows if its possible to get 6 stacks of hangover via dio call only

[craggy verge]

👀

[lone kernel]

i think youd need greater call

which on dio should never be used

[craggy verge]

What if you just use incomplete bars?

like 2 or 3 single calls

[lone kernel]

yeah, i mean the quarter-bar signle call

i guess that would work

but is hoarding the calls worth it

[craggy verge]

sometimes don have opportunith I guess to get in close

but prob not

[lone kernel]

i cant think of a reason unless its like

meme beam or something

where call generates mad fast

and i forgot to use it lol

then its like oops

[craggy verge]

[lone kernel]

just because Smair/Dio call is solid

[craggy verge]

Smair Dio is good stuff

but it is 3 gods

[lone kernel]

smair/anything except ares or artemis is great

[craggy verge]

Smair Athena 👀

[lone kernel]

literally ever play mario kart with a star the entire game

[craggy verge]

Hmmmm true

[lone kernel]

you need to know that hades is going to repeat his last move if you aphro aid him

[mint coral]

Poms are fun in smair aphro too

[lone kernel]

and if you get a high level call

like, three poms or so

hang on i have a clip somewhere

[mint coral]

If you have a good charm use it on theseus vs asterius while he is calling a god

[craggy verge]

ooog

[mint coral]

Peak funny

[polar quail]

Well that was my first time dying before thesus and asterius in a long while

[mint coral]

Yup

[craggy verge]

Anyone else hate like Aphros angry when you pick between 2 gods?

[mint coral]

1/3 of normal duration

Iirc

[craggy verge]

That homing heart is so

[lone kernel]

#h1-victory-boasting message

[craggy verge]

I always pick the other god

[lone kernel]

so this is exactly what not to do with aphros aid lol

but

it's still the minotaur murdering theseus in like 15 seconds

(reason it was a mistake, shoulda spread out the charms on both)

[mint coral]

Also witches destroy themselves if charmed

[lone kernel]

deadass?

based

its a link to an old message on this server

why am i so bad at this lol

[mint coral]

I think is only elysium witches tho

The oned with the big orb that explodes into smaller ones

Not sure, but he will target asterius

[lone kernel]

#h1-victory-boasting message @digital slate click that, itll take u to a post in victory boasting channel, scroll down, there's the clip

[mint coral]

Links me fine in mobile

[lunar pelican]

ah rip my win streak finally ended

rail gun is so trash imo, my build also sucked tho lmao

[high island]

One of the best weapons in the game... with a good build.

[lunar pelican]

I think it makes you too vulnerable

unless you build it correct tho for sure

[high island]

Try Lightning Strike, then get Static Discharge and Tidal Dash. With a bunch of poms on Tidal Dash and maybe 1-2 on Static Discharge.

That should shred everything.

[lunar pelican]

Yeah max the attack aspect of it

[high island]

Also you can use your Special or Dash at the same time you reload.

So you go can empty your clip > reload + Special > repeat.

[lunar pelican]

I think the other weapons are still better

[high island]

Usually with aggressive dashes while holding Attack.

[lunar pelican]

Though maybe the hidden aspect of the gun will change my mind

[high island]

Well, it gets some of the best results in speedruns and in high heat. But that doesn't mean it always clicks with everyone, of course.

[raw herald]

Delta chamber good when you’re learning it imo

[lunar pelican]

I think I just need to practice with it a bit, its also my least used weapon

If it's getting the best speedrun results cant really argue against that

[high island]

Not the best, but it's up there.

[raw herald]

Not the best, but very good

Top 6 weapon imo

[high island]

Early on, speedruns were like 99% Eris lol.

[twin thistle]

luci aint as good as eris and hestia

[raw herald]

Eris is still the easiest to go fast as well

Even now

[twin thistle]

beo comfy

[high island]

Some genius Hestia player also just got a 9:27 at 41 Heat. Pretty amazing stuff, ngl.

Wish I was that good.

[polar quail]

Whoa that’s insane

[signal aspen]

thats pretty good

wonder who that was

[twin thistle]

[polar quail]

My best time is 25 minutes so I can’t imagine beating in less than ten

[twin thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/931974101323645088/Hades_4831.png wonder who it is. definitely not some aphrodite lover

[polar quail]

Aphrodite simp

[calm zenith]

Nah you could probably do it with hundreds of hours + you know how to speedrun

[twin thistle]

modded helps too

[calm zenith]

My average time is like 20 usually but that's like doing everything for extra resources and stuff

[gray apex]

Spread fire nice

[calm zenith]

My pb is 13:58

[twin thistle]

aint that targetting

[high island]

Bruh, people do not know Rail hammer icons apparently.

[gray apex]

Oh it is

[deft python]

Just beat the game and I’m kind of crying

[calm zenith]

I could probably do sub 10 if I practiced a bit and really tried

[mint coral]

Or just looking at ammo count

[calm zenith]

I forget boon and hammer names all the time

[ashen plover]

bruh exagryph special spam can cheese megaera

[gray apex]

It's because I'm a casual gamer

[lunar pelican]

Imma get a sub 10 at some point

[polar quail]

Almost 500 wins? Whoa

[calm zenith]

There's so many and they are small similar icons

[lone kernel]

i don't know over half of the icons total

[lunar pelican]

I gotta farm the actual weapons and keepsakes first tho

[high island]

Yeah, that would have been a lot more than 3 resets in unmodded lol.

[calm zenith]

I have like 350 wins

[signal aspen]

no its not

[high island]

Easy, just refer to the wiki without telling anybody.

[twin thistle]

exagryph spamming zeus attack and specialing while reloading cheeses meg harder

[calm zenith]

I'd have to read the wiki a lot yeah

[deft python]

Anyone know how many times you need to escape for ||the ending where persephone comes home?||

I just got it

[twin thistle]

10

[calm zenith]

Then maybe I could memorize everything

[lone kernel]

kinda mad work ngl

[deft python]

How did I achieve that?

[ashen plover]

I should try that

[deft python]

I suck at thus game

[calm zenith]

Clearly not

[signal aspen]

win 10 times or something idk

[calm zenith]

You accidentally got 10 wins so you have actively improved

[deft python]

It was rhetorical

[deft python]

Evidently so

[high island]

Don't beat yourself up over being "bad" or whatever, just enjoy the game at your own pace.

[deft python]

Just found a guy who died to “elephant”

I love this game

[polar quail]

I tried chiron but I didn’t find it fun playing with it

[deft python]

Is chiron in this game?

[high island]

Nope.

His bow is.

[polar quail]

Yeah

[deft python]

Really?

[polar quail]

It’s just a weapon aspect

[deft python]

Oh

[calm zenith]

I'm not a fan of it either

My favorite bow is Rama

[polar quail]

Never tried Rama before

[calm zenith]

Hidden aspect

It plays differently but it has by far the highest attack damage potential

[polar quail]

I only have one hidden aspect unlocked and I haven’t bought it yet

[calm zenith]

Because its special is rapid concentrated ricocheting arrows that make all enemies hit by them share damage taken for like 10 seconds

Then attack is a wide slow shot

It clears rooms in one shot. Or waves at least.

Some some stuff can reach 5k dmg in one hit like Arthur attack, but Rama technically is almost always doing thousands of damage because 60% of attack damage applies to the entire effected room

[lunar pelican]

I finaly unlocked guan yu and I have the nastiest biuild now

[calm zenith]

Guan yu is a really good spear

Exploding launcher built in

Higher base damage all around

Spin is much more useful

What's your build? Post in #h1-builds-and-combat

[deft python]

All I use is fists lmao

I almost have every aspect maxed out

[devout terrace]

Why do you slap rats?

[lunar pelican]

Ill post it after this run I'm at hades now

[calm zenith]

Fists are fun. I really like a good gilgamesh build where you actually work in backstabs

Honestly I dont take that much more damage than I usually do with fists

And athena attack just helps a ton

[deft python]

Whats the best weapon?

[signal aspen]

you're mom

[deft python]

Your*

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/801869625453183066.gif?v=1&size=40

[full nexus]

What have you become ppman

[lunar pelican]

how you upload images to this server

[full nexus]

Via imgur or discord links

Imgur or others ofc

[lunar pelican]

I posted the build over there if ya wanna check it out

[calm zenith]

👍

[flint spade]

Better question: what's your playstyle

Bc it all depends on how you want to escape. High damage, tank, dogde

[trail hazel]

does cereberus his favor (pet him 20 times) have to be in different runs or can you do it all in 1 go?

[last veldt]

Different runs

You can't pet more than once per visit in the house as far as I'm aware

[trail hazel]

well you can

[last veldt]

Really?

[trail hazel]

i petted him like 11 times in 1 go and then started to wonder if i was wasting my time

[last veldt]

Oh okay, I'm used to interactions being rate limited

[trail hazel]

but it registers as 1 i guess

[last veldt]

Well you can tell us in 9 goes

[trail hazel]

i did while i was waiting, but it doesn't count, i already had the pet 10 times achievment

im currently trying to 100% this game (as in achievements)

[last veldt]

Still, nobody should need excuses to give pets

[trail hazel]

true

[trail hazel]

currently 40 out of 49

[deft python]

Go in with no regard for health and murder everyone

[trail hazel]

sounds like hidden aspect of the sword to me

has a nice damage reduction aura

[twin thistle]

sounds like any weapon

[trail hazel]

i meant the no regard for health

if he has no regard for health its in my opion better if he has some damage reduction

[twin thistle]

or just have enough dps to kill everything before they damage you

which a lot of other aspects do better

[trail hazel]

fair excalibur hits hard but slow

[high island]

All other aspects.

[brisk trail]

try aspect of nemesis

[twin thistle]

you kinda want to know how to play sword

[karmic pond]

Sword

[trail hazel]

my general playstyle with sword is dashing and attack like there is no tomorrow XD

thats why i do excalibur, so i think more while i play

[twin thistle]

id say playing recklessly with arhur is easier than the oyher swords at low heat

[trail hazel]

at low heat maybe

but my playstyle might be a bit weird XD

[gray apex]

Sword hard

[trail hazel]

bow hard

[lunar pelican]

damn I didn't realize they incorporated a end to the actual game with the credits and all

badass

[hearty mural]

What’s the best aspect for sea storm?

[gray apex]

Do you wanna specifically aim for it

Because you can grab it on something like Eris and it would do good damage but you don't really try to get it

If it shows up you just take it and that's it

If you wanna strictly build around it/ have it as your main damage source you can try Sea Storm Chiron

Or supersoaker

[hearty mural]

Like on special and it’s 8 bolts?

Like I know it’s a strong thing but with merciful end I don’t go in looking for it with rail I go in with fists

[lunar pelican]

Alright now i gotta do one last run to see if anything changes after I bring back momma persephone

[gray apex]

It wont be 8 bolts due to internal cooldowns and what not

[lunar pelican]

persephone back in 38 runs not too bad

[gray apex]

But yea something like Tempest Flourish Sea Storm Static Discharge Double strike

Would melt bosses especially with good hammers

And most likely Zeus Call

possibly splitting

[hearty mural]

This made me super mad when I got chaos shield Zeus special double strike and it did not melt bosses with 6 bolts at once

But it makes sense for balancing

[lunar pelican]

What do the chapters before a run mean?

When it's a closeup shot of hades and it says judged or whatever

[hearty mural]

Just some extra lore/character

Pretty random I’m sure

[twin thistle]

guan yu https://imgur.com/a/6ickiUT

[gray apex]

I like how you have a lot memey boss fights as gifs lol

[twin thistle]

gotta educate people about superior builds

[high island]

What have I done.

[polar quail]

Guan yu looks fun

[twin thistle]

only problem is you need quick plus massive spin, seastorm, splitting bolt, double strike, high voltage, jolted, and bad news or rush delivery

[devout terrace]

immensely based

[hearty mural]

Why bad/rush?

[gray apex]

idk damage or something

[twin thistle]

why would you not want 50-100% increased zoos damage

[devout terrace]

bad news is 50% global damage because they forgot

instead of just 50% cast damage

[hearty mural]

Even if it’s already lodged?

That’s really broken

[devout terrace]

nah you cant have it lodged

less useful on stuff like hestia

but zeus/ares/dio stuff really benefits

[gray apex]

No

If it's lodged no bonus

[hearty mural]

But the bonus is meant to be on just casts and it’s a global debuff

So an opposite boiling

[gray apex]

Boiling is only base special and attack

So

It's just common RD

[twin thistle]

ngl if bad news worked how it was supposed to itd be kinda crappy when hyper delivery exists especially with how rare it is. tbh hyper delivery is better anyways if you get rare or epic

[gray apex]

yea

[twin thistle]

even non bugged mirage shot is better if you have like more than +50% cast damage

[polar quail]

Hm idk what run I want to do next, I don’t want to do the same runs over and over

[high island]

32 Heat.

[polar quail]

Really? I haven’t even finished a 2 heat run yet

[twin thistle]

32 is just 3 more heat then

[high island]

Yeah.

32 is 3 + 2.

[gray apex]

I’m totally a casual player and I can tell you 32 heat is easy

[twin thistle]

me too

[polar quail]

I could try it with my favorite aspect I guess

[full nexus]

Hm

It won't be easy

[polar quail]

Definitely not at this stage

[feral belfry]

32 heat on all weapons was a perfect challenge for me

[polar quail]

I’ve only cleared 6 times and I don’t have all aspects yet

[feral belfry]

Well, it sounds like you know what you need to do next

Practice higher heat

[high island]

I only have the second lowest reaction time out of anyone in high heat, and even I have done 32 Heat.

[feral belfry]

You need 32 to clear all achievements

[high island]

You don't actually need 32 for any achievements.

[feral belfry]

Oh I thought you did for skelly prize

[polar quail]

You just need it for the statue right

[lone kernel]

You need it for skelly prize but not for steam achievements

[feral belfry]

Oh I thought they were tied

[high island]

Have you fully upgraded all of your keepsakes yet?

If not, do that and you'll have plenty of build variety.

[polar quail]

Yeah, I just don’t want to end up using the same weapon and build over and over when practicing higher heat. I’ll probably do another eris rail run.

Athena’s, acorn, artemis, Zeus, Aphrodite, are maxed out

[calm zenith]

You can do 32 heat on whatever tbh. I did it on gilgamesh

Athena attack + splash dash

[high island]

So do the others then.

And try out all of the different pacts.

There's plenty to explore.

[last veldt]

Achievement is for 16 heat

32 is just optional masochism

[brisk trail]

2nd skelly trophy is an acheivement but not 3rd

[raw herald]

64 is twice the heat and 100 times the difficulty

[twin thistle]

maybe a bit more than 100

[lone kernel]

9001 times

[deft python]

Is that the last aspect? Idk how to unlock it

[twin thistle]

second

for sword

[lone kernel]

Secret aspect unlock requirements are pinned in story thread

[brisk trail]

just tried a fresh file run, got meg to 30%

its harder than 32 heat

[twin thistle]

one dash and zag sword is not pog

[gray apex]

It kinda is yea

[twin thistle]

main problem is you usually dont play ri4 zag sword

having no dps and no dashes means you gotta be really patient

id do fresh file if ME was guaranteed

actually could just install a mod for that

[signal aspen]

Yeah ff is tough

I think I've made it to hades twice out of like 30 attempts

[brisk trail]

i got divine strike but ares gave me slicing shot

[signal aspen]

Haven't made it to the second phase yet either

[twin thistle]

i forget whats the furthest ive gotten either champs or got murdered by dad

[gray apex]

I got to dad once but left Heroes at like 10 hp so it was going downhill from there

Also it being like slowish compared to regular hades stuff makes me less fun to practice for me

So never got into it

[twin thistle]

ngl dodging spins with fo0 one dash is harder for me than fo2

[gray apex]

Heroes and Hades are very tough on ff yea

Actually pain

Just not used to it, ff players seem to have no issues with that but yea

Just like we’re too used to fo2 spins and whatnot

[hearty mural]

How do I give hades more nectar? He already has 3 and the option hasn’t been there for a while

And when I no longer need darkness should I run Olympian favor or dark foresight?

[lunar pelican]

ahhhhh

First real speedrun attempt and I got 16:04. so close to sub 15

[brisk trail]

heat 32 is so rough

[lunar pelican]

I guess in fairness I had +20% mob spawn

[mint coral]

1. keep escaping, will solve itself
2. always use DF, chamber reward darkness is meaningless

Just do a heat you already did to get darkness from bosses

Or darkness troves

Oh wait you already opened dad heart lock

[tacit nimbus]

I have an ambigiuos quality pact of punishment component idea, causing killed enemies to shoot off a projectile at you.

[gray apex]

There’s a Chaos curse for that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/931680030856200232/860890017613873193.webp

[storm atlas]

I absolutely love the shield

Zeus aspect ofc

[mossy adder]

Congrats on that win

[storm atlas]

thank you
tbh I wasnt even trying to win
was just doing a run for gems

and I'm still missing Artemis keepsake lol

how do you unlock the shields hidden aspect?

[chrome wharf]

#h1-story-discussion pins, basically you need hidden spear unlocked, then have 5 blood total invested into the shield, then talk to Chaos

[storm atlas]

thank you

[lunar pelican]

I'mma be doing some speedrun practice on stream 16:04 is pb out of 2 attempts so far

[brisk trail]

@twin thistle i just did a zoos rama special build

with demeter duo

holy god

[twin thistle]

jolted very based

[brisk trail]

double strike also based

i saved the the entire run

[lunar pelican]

Alright I'm doing bow tutorial stream now

[runic parrot]

high voltage

cannot think of a worse boon tbh

[slim geyser]

whats a good poseidon sword build

[runic parrot]

i think many use arty cast

but i like poseidon cast + artemis special

aim for mirage shot

and the artemis leg + as many chaotic shots/grasps as you can get

[slim geyser]

alr

dont have Poseidon’s keepsake (keep forgetting to give him nectar) so im just gonna pray to rngjesus

[twin thistle]

chain lightning: "allow me to introduce myself"

[runic parrot]

oh god i forgot about chain lightning

so bad that i have erased it from my mind

its fine as a stepping stone for splitting bolt when im running eris but its just really not worth it if youre not going for the legendary tbh

[twin thistle]

high voltage aint that bad. hitting a bunch of enemies with every jolted proc melts groups

[runic parrot]

yeah true

its fine if they're mushed up together

[twin thistle]

also. peer pressure

[slim geyser]

honestly im just using Poseidon sword because i need more titan blood and havent done a sword run on heat but this isnt terrible i actually like this a lot

[runic parrot]

pos sword op

[mint ember]

you ever get a run thats cursed

no matter how many times you reset and use a different weapon you are only ever offered common boons

[slim geyser]

yup

[twin thistle]

you resetting wih give up?

[runic parrot]

if you are then that's the same seed lol

die if you want to get different choices

[twin thistle]

that

[slim geyser]

LMAO WAIT SPOILERS ||I ACTUALLY GOT HYPNOSES AUTOGRAPH||

[twin thistle]

think messing with the pact or mirror can too

[slim geyser]

I DIDNT KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT

[twin thistle]

aint it asterius' autograph

[slim geyser]

yeah

i mean his autograph for hypnos

and then asterius kicked my ass but hey i got mirage shot so

[twin thistle]

yeah think the autograph questline thingy requires you to die to asterius and theseus a couple times each

[mint ember]

im aware

it was a hammer start

so each weapon would have diff option

but they were all poop everytime

lol

[slim geyser]

losing to theseus will never stop hurting will it

[twin thistle]

yeah i dont want theseus to kill me so sorry no autograph for hypnos

[lunar pelican]

alright I'm going back to speedrun practice. sub 15 tonight

doin it LIVE

[slim geyser]

also, curious, whats a good beowulf build

[calm zenith]

I got kinda screwed in the end but I had a funny trippy flare build going

I had the prereqs for fully loaded, nectar, rerolled, still didnt get it

Because you do infernal. The recharging cast.

I did manage to get my cast to do over 1000 dmg

I had +73% cast dmg + a cast stone from Chaos, and a like lvl 7 epic Trippy Flare on Beo

And Trippy Flare pom scaling is bugged on Beo

So its busted

[twin thistle]

meta for beo is flood flare arty attack mirage shot

[calm zenith]

I also got bad hammers.

Yeah

You can also do passion flare or phalanx flare

Most other options are too tricky to be worth your trouble

[twin thistle]

MEwulf

[calm zenith]

What's the highest you've gotten trippy flare on beo

7 is decent but far from the highest you can get

Does it stay good? I'm not quite sure. Its just double the displayed dmg right?