#h1-discussion

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oak ibex
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In fact, when I beat Theseus first instead of Asterius (which is usually not the case), I mentally apologize to bullman

chrome wharf
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me when getting into Elysium arena at low HP:

oak ibex
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I just do what I usually do and scream while I dash like a madman, praying I survive

polar quail
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I’m finding Theseus easier with the rail though I still died because I didn’t have much health left

mint ember
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asterius thankfully has very very large startup animations for pretty much all his attacks

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it may take a little bit, but once you get used to noticing them asterius becomes a piece of cake

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well, a beefcake anyway

oak ibex
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I think I laughed a bit too loudly at the beefcake joke

mint ember
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lol

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unlike theseus asterius is actually a really noble character

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so i kinda do feel bad for murdering his only friend

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but he has trash taste in friends so kill away

oak ibex
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Asterius you deserve better

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Pls be my friend instead

mint ember
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true

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but this is for someone still struggling with heroes fight

feral belfry
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Fair

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they're run enders for most people early on

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then they become easy once you realize how slow asterious is, just takes some practice and he'll start to feel very slow

frail wedge
chrome wharf
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that's basically throwing when TD

oak ibex
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That's just my general playstyle

livid nymph
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I have seen people use the lance, for most of my time I just use shield. Should I consider switching then?

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My main goal is just being able to get through the duo and I was close to beating them today but I got hit by the Ares call from theseus

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Very annoying considering I couldn’t gotten out of it in time to save myself

high island
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I can't tell you what weapon to play. That's just something you gotta decide for yourself tbh.

livid nymph
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I guess for the rest of the week I will keep trying using Aegis, and if I can’t beat them at least once then I might have to switch

high island
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Have you been using the Evergreen Acorn in Elysium? That should help a lot with that fight.

livid nymph
high island
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Since spoilers are allowed in this channel.

livid nymph
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No it’s fine

high island
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Alright.

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Yeah, Acorn will help a lot. That's the go-to for survivability in Elysium and the biome after that.

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So unless you feel very confident in your build, you're usually best off taking that.

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Lucky Tooth can sometimes help you make it to Patroclus to get your DDs back if you've been barely scraping by, so that can also be a good option.

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But mostly Acorn is best for survival in Elysium.

livid nymph
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So I’m that case all I need to do is avoid being hit a lot in the boss battle then so I can depend on the null hits on important times

high island
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You don't really gotta go out of your way to play any different. Acorn will generally absorb more damage than the 100 HP you'd get from Lucky Tooth in those fights.

twin thistle
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you kinda want to avoid being hit in general bouldy

livid nymph
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I do like playing with the shield because I like to go unga bunga

chrome wharf
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Ares on regular attack good

brisk trail
craggy verge
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Meg getting trolled by Hypnos sure is hilarious

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"Have you just tried dodging" dusa

oak ibex
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Hypnos, I'm surprised Meg didn't just smite you right then and there

livid nymph
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I mean, at some point Meg really needs to change her strategy and stop doing the same predictable things

chrome wharf
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imagine if video game bosses actually learned from fighting you

livid nymph
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Thankfully that isn’t the case

lament robin
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So, I get that a lot of people use the aspect of demeter gauntlets, but why is it better than the other aspect? (Specifically the one with the magnet special)

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Me?

chrome wharf
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other person

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who deleted their post

lament robin
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Oh ok

narrow hemlock
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o so they have

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no more confusion, apologies :)

high island
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No more confusion? Eris in shambles.

narrow hemlock
crude surge
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Hestia renaissance real tizozzz

solemn seal
arctic marten
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Ive been trying to get poseidons favor

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I catched more than 50 fishes and caught 1 this run but i just cant get the dialogue he has

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Are there any more requirements?

high island
arctic marten
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Question

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Do you need to max out a punishment to get it for harsh conditions achievement

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Or can you knly do 1

chrome wharf
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first rank is fine

kindred silo
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EM4 Harsh Conditions

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Itd be funny

dusk turtle
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do I miss out on any rewards if I exceed the heat gauge

arctic marten
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If you exceed the gauge you get the same rewards as you would normally

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If you win the gauge increases

dusk turtle
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so if I did 10 heat when 7 heat it is the limit does it go up to 8 or 11 minimum next time

arctic marten
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It goes to 8

dusk turtle
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ah ok

feral belfry
brisk trail
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how do you get 3 hammers in a run without anvil, is it from buying in a charon shop?

vapid narwhal
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I struggle to think how that is possible. You will only pick two hammers, no matter from room rewards or buying from Charon. If you enter Styx with less than 2 hammers, there will be one there, but I don't think it's possible to have two spawn at Styx (one as tunnel reward, one at Charon)

arctic marten
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Can you get chain skewer at first hammer ?

last veldt
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I'm not aware of any ordering restrictions on hammers. If you can get it at all, it could be your first hammer.

high pollen
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At the temple shop if you already have two hammers there is a chance Charon sells an anvil that randomly replaces one of your hammer upgrades with two different random ones

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Generally not good but if your hammers are already bad could be interesting

storm atlas
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holy
just killed my first Fury

high pollen
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Grats! It only gets easier (until you start making it harder)

brisk trail
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i couldve sworn there was a way to get it but maybe im misremembering it cuz it was a while ago

last veldt
brisk trail
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alright

storm atlas
arctic marten
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Trying to do gift of song rn

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How much did i do when i reached a point wheni play it actually becomes longer than usual

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Like it becomes actual musc

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Oh nevermind am done now

sick folio
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Hi. I killed skelly with max first aspect of the sword and gave him all of the nectar i could but i didnt get the summon. the quest in the list is done and i collected my rewards. did i do smth wrong cause in yt videos it is said to do thouse steps

last veldt
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Need to also give Ambrosia.

sick folio
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Thank you a lot i guess i mixed it with nrectar and was confused. i got my summon

gray apex
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Nice

brisk trail
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hey does anyone know how to guarantee to get chao's boon defiance? I got the requirements in many runs but I can never get it

runic parrot
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have a good appreciation of chance and luck (aka good luck lol)

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you'd be better off getting a favor boon before it

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and turn on god's legacy (? whichever one that makes it likelier for legs to appear)

full nexus
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And god's legacy as mentioned up there

gray apex
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Oh yea forgot the keepsake

south sapphire
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dude

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metallic child

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excellent roguelike

high island
lime echo
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@solemn seal Holy crap that's amazing. Why make such a blatant copy? They still could have stolen the core concept and just changed the way it looks and feels 😭

brisk trail
mint coral
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It also gives rarity bonus

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+40% at lvl 3 iirc

full nexus
brisk trail
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huh thats nice so even with rarity bonus i still can't get it

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cause i had it so it wouldn't damage me

mint coral
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(And 10% to legendary)

high island
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+10% legendary, +15% epic, +40% rare.

final charm
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Completed my first run Yesterday!!

kindred silo
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congrats :D

gray apex
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pog

cedar olive
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Great job

lone kernel
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based

fast aspen
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what heat is easiest?

little iris
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More enemies

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More ads= more coin

full nexus
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The first two levels of extreme measures and the first level of tight deadline

little iris
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Ye

fast willow
gray apex
karmic pond
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Low levels of LC is not gonna impact your game that much either imo

gray apex
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Yea it can help you get ready to swap to LC4 + SD somewhat

karmic pond
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I would say that the ones I find easiest are

  • Middle management
  • Lasting consequences 1-2
  • EM 1-2
  • Tight deadline 1-2
frail wedge
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Jury Summons, EM 2, and Forced Overtime carried my first heat runs

high island
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There's a prophecy for completing runs with each of the pacts. I'd suggest just aiming for that and trying out all of the different pacts in the process.

frail wedge
high island
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You don't need to do them all at once lol.

frail wedge
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Stubborn Defiance, Approval Process, Routine Inspection

frail wedge
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I made the mistake of doing that

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Literally the worst run of Hades

high island
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Discord embed failure smh.

gray apex
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Couldnt find image

frail wedge
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I got something about parents being slammed for adding urine to popsicles

karmic pond
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I found the image coolDog

frail wedge
karmic pond
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Inaccurate no damage control

gray apex
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There I’ll help you

karmic pond
fast willow
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smart

karmic pond
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~~I really need to turn EM4 off for a little while I´ve been struggling dusa ~~

fast willow
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simply play 50+ heat to fill out the prophecy

craggy verge
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honestly feels like Heroes EM is the hardest shadegrief

frail wedge
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Heroes EM is the hardest

karmic pond
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I personally don´t struggle with any boss fight besides Hades

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Wish I could practice him more without going through a whole run

high island
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No idea why the imgur link didn't work.

frail wedge
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I like to play the game for fun

karmic pond
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She has fun with high heat

frail wedge
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Well then she’s a masochist dusa

fast willow
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what is this charged flight RI3

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TD2

high island
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That's a WR from Early Access is what it is. dusa

craggy verge
gray apex
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That’s the stonks charged flight

craggy verge
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prob harder I guess

fast willow
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also why does TD2 21:xx clear say 1:14 left on the timer

high island
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Timer didn't carry over between biomes.

fast willow
craggy verge
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52 heat 👀

fast willow
high island
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EM4 didn't exist yet.

full nexus
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it's very hard but doable

gray apex
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Well TD3 wasnt a thing

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And that

high island
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And yeah TD3 didn't exist.

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There was nothing left to take except for JS3 RI4 DC2.

mossy adder
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Just did my first succesful shield run. I never realized that when Asterius jumps, he... misses by default? I always dash and run all over the place so I get bit but

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this time I kept blocking, and his jumps weren't even blocked, they just.. missed

full nexus
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Yeah it's weird, sometimes you stand still and he won't target you

fast willow
high island
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Yeah. And 57 in Hell mode.

craggy verge
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then you end up directly behibd him

karmic pond
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Meanwhile I’m such a god gamer my max heat is 17 bouldy

craggy verge
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But then in EM3 he got a giant spin2win attack shadegrief

high island
mossy adder
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Hades with shield is also weird. He just can't hit. Even the boiling blood skulls just disappear instead of falling on the floor.

fast willow
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its not so much that his aim is bad

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its just that he has a set jump length

fast willow
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so if youre too close or too far he just misses bouldy

mossy adder
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I expected it to bounce off making me deal with it

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Happy surprise they just.. be gone

high island
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m not just talking about his jump.

craggy verge
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Yea absorbed by the shield

high island
gray apex
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Beware of your sides when blocking with normal shields lol

fast willow
craggy verge
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I wish Deflect made the skull explosions damage Hades dusa

high island
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Deflect made them disappear though.

fast willow
craggy verge
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👀

fast willow
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ive never noticed that

mossy adder
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Deflect bounces the skulls back into hades damaging him, and then exploding to hit me- right?

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Shield just makes them poof gone

craggy verge
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yea

high island
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Just stand still and watch him whiff so many times lol.

craggy verge
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they still hurt gou

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when they explodr

gray apex
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Archers also suck at aiming

high island
gray apex
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Try resetting with archers

craggy verge
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Still deflect feels really 👀 in hades fight

craggy verge
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like compared trying to dodge skulls shadegrief

fast willow
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its impossible

gray apex
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Yea ik

fast willow
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but when hades summons them as adds they have perfect accuracy and dont waste any time

high island
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You can't reset with Strongbows. When you want them to attack, they'll do nothing but run away.

gray apex
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Whenever you wanna win they hit you 5 times in a row

fast willow
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and take 4 acorn hits

gray apex
high island
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But let one of them run off-screen during combat and suddenly he's Legolas. zfiestWOT

fast willow
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man i just dont like elysium enemies bouldy

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unarmoured swords garbage

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unarmoured bows bad

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armoured shields hard on heat

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flamewheels bad

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armoured chariots hard on heat

raw herald
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Just skip elysium rofl

high island
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I like the enemies. I don't like timing out because of unending waves of trash mobs.

fast willow
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butterfly balls and witches are the only acceptable ely enemies.

sullen holly
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On a new save I manage to make to half way through elysium

high island
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@mossy adder Charged Shot will be a lot better even with a % Attack. dusa

karmic pond
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I feel like Elysium enemies are generally not that bad to handle

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But then you get to shield enemies which just stall your time a lot

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Hate shields

mossy adder
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I skipped out Minotaur Rush for which did a loooot of +% in favour of completing my prophecies

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regretted it in hindsight

high island
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I don't mind Greatshields, just Speeder or Bruiser Greatshields can be a problem.

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Dashing Wallop is better than Minotaur Rush anyway tbh.

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Best way to charge your Bull Rush/Charged Shot is from Dash-Strikes anyway, so you'd use those a lot.

mossy adder
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Very fair

brisk trail
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i hate bow enemies the most

calm zenith
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Bow guys are like Lynels in botw

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The get perfect ranged accuracy if you ever lose melee range with them

raw herald
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Except you can’t flurry rush

lone kernel
frail wedge
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I saw someone do Dionysus Hestia on a run once

lone kernel
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based

lone kernel
frail wedge
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It’s not NOT relevant

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It’s still good, just less good

lone kernel
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Word

frail wedge
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I think it’s still OU

lone kernel
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Word

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Space magnet

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hades Pokémon crossover

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What would that look like

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Charizartemis

frail wedge
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Aspect of Magnezone

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You get a Tesla coil exagryph

lone kernel
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Love it

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Wait you could put three little Zeus beards on your magnezone if you were so inclined aPES_Laugh

frail wedge
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I did not make this

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But imagine Pokémon replacing all the gods

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Or just the characters

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Decidueye Artemis

versed mason
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talos erasure

lone kernel
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Aphrodite would have every flavor of eevee

frail wedge
lone kernel
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no promises

chrome wharf
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I had a magnezone in a X nuzlocke and it was the only mon surviving at the end

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gen 5+ Sturdy based

brisk trail
gray apex
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Sell first 2 bouldy

last veldt
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Purging side hustle gets you 9 chambers worth.

high island
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What aspect is that?

gray apex
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I have no clue what you’re doing with Tempest strike

high island
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Probably not Sea-Storming with that build.

gray apex
brisk trail
chrome wharf
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Tempest strike has precisely 2 uses: meme Lucifer and meme GY

brisk trail
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its just for rupture to p stat

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its a special build

gray apex
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Just sell side hustle then probably

gray apex
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Also I hope you have exploding launcher

brisk trail
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i have chain skewer and got quick spin just now

last veldt
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Does selling a Hermes boon open the possibility of getting another one later?

high island
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What region are you in now?

brisk trail
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does selling all boons from a god remove them from ur pool

high island
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Oh, Temple of Styx if you just got your second hammer.

gray apex
gray apex
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Honestly your main source of damage is rupture if anything bouldy

high island
brisk trail
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it aint much but it prob still wins

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cuz im only on heat 12

high island
# brisk trail elysium

Well, if you've already entered Elysium it's too late for that, but Thunder Signet was probably the best pick here to get at least one out of Sea Storm, Scintillating Feast, and Smair.

last veldt
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Not the specific boon, but any Hermes boon. And could you get a 3rd from a mystery bag?

gray apex
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Well chain skewer does nothing for bossing

last veldt
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Okay, so never more than 2 and fewer if you sell any.

high island
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There's no "any" Hermes boon. There are two in the rewards pool. First is added to the rewards pool from chamber 12 on. The second is added when you've taken the first. And then that's that. No more Lord Hermes boons when you've already picked up both.

Styx shop has a 50% chance to offer one that's independent from that.

last veldt
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Ta

lone kernel
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even with fated authority

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cant high roll into a third one in ely?

high island
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You can't, no.

lone kernel
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Word

gray apex
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Cant high roll two bouldies in Tart sadge

lone kernel
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get Meg to give nectar to Bouldy is the main objective of hades 2

scarlet horizon
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It's kinda sad we can't get to persephone map anymore after some time

mint coral
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just an excuse to start a new file and stay in the garden forever

scarlet horizon
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lol didn't think about that but yep a "low cost" solution

fading mirage
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i havent given it too much thought but im suprised theres not dialogue options in this game, seems it would suit it

tribal sleet
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there are some, just not too many

fading mirage
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i mean like on almost every convo

livid nymph
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I couldn't get the divine dash I need when I was reaching the champions boss, using thunder dash is fine too right?

craggy verge
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I mean it is a dash dusa

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I think Thunder or Ares Dash are like the worst ones though

mint coral
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thunder is fun when stacking even more zeus

craggy verge
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Divine>Tidal>>>>>Artemis, Aphro, Dio>Zeus>Ares in my opinion for dashes

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Seriously whats synergy for Ares Dash dusa

tribal sleet
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i like tidal

devout terrace
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Wtf blade dash is amzing

craggy verge
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It is?

karmic trellis
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i like blade dash

tribal sleet
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me too

devout terrace
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Get poms

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Dash back and forth

craggy verge
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what you supposed to do with it 👀

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its like just dmg right?

karmic trellis
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yeah

devout terrace
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Extra dashes/rush delivery

tribal sleet
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snd get the boons thay make the blade rigt bigger

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Yas

devout terrace
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Its about the tracking one

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Engulfing

tribal sleet
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oh geah Ghat one too

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that

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the multiple dashes r helpful

devout terrace
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Mistral dash or dio dash are definitely the worst

tribal sleet
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its not ljke one solid hit of dmg and it can stack which is fun

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whats mistral again

devout terrace
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Demeter

tribal sleet
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yewh dio dash kinda sucks

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Oh yeah

craggy verge
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oh yea Demeter dash kind of bad

devout terrace
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20 damage in one direction

tribal sleet
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i like dionysus cast w demeter duo boon

craggy verge
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Demeter stuff is kind of bad since all her duo perks are for casting lol

devout terrace
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Ice wine my beloved

old sentinel
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There was a steam update today???

tribal sleet
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demeter cast is rlly good tho

karmic trellis
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most of dem's boons always seemed kinda mid to me unless you stacked up on most of her boons

craggy verge
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Yea Dio cast with Demeter and Zeus is pretty great

brisk trail
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mistral dash is pretty decent for p stat

craggy verge
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Yea Demeters only good if you planning on cast build

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it feels.like

tribal sleet
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also rare crop

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that ones good

karmic trellis
tribal sleet
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demeter cast w artemis duo boon js zagluv zagluv

karmic trellis
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i only use cast unless i'm using beo or hera

tribal sleet
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i use cast a lots

craggy verge
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My fav is Divine cos you don need to Pom it dusa

tribal sleet
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Yas !

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i also like blade rift

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the cast

brisk trail
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whats yalls favorite lucifer exclusive hammer

tribal sleet
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i lkke the casts where they dont stay in foes

devout terrace
tribal sleet
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and multiply dmg

karmic trellis
devout terrace
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Put arti special on it

tribal sleet
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jm not sure i suck w lucifer

devout terrace
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Flash fire is good

brisk trail
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theres 5,
infinite ammo
ramps faster
bigger special radiation
faster attack speed
triple beam

craggy verge
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Flash Fire feels good

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but Id rather see the special hammers

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idk I feel like I like using the special on Rail more for that chunky burst

brisk trail
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i once had hazard bomb with 30% special speed so there were 2 out at once most of the time it was pretty chaotic

craggy verge
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Artemis special + Dionysus attack and you can get some reliable crits from stacking hangover

brisk trail
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sometimes i would block myself off by denoting the entire styx room at once lmao

craggy verge
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👀

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Can you get Hazard Bomb with multiple bombs?

brisk trail
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nah its incompatible with cluster and triple sadly

craggy verge
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oood

brisk trail
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would be hilarious lol

craggy verge
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how bout with the rocket?

brisk trail
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also nope

craggy verge
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no fun allowed lol

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can you do cluster + triple?

mint coral
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no

craggy verge
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Rocket + Cluster?

mint coral
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yes

brisk trail
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yes and its fantastic

mint coral
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and its broken

craggy verge
mint coral
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the dmg reduction from cluster doesnt apply if you have rocket

craggy verge
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Whew

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wtf

brisk trail
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^

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400 base dmg

craggy verge
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so you just fire 5 full dmg rockets?

brisk trail
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yep

tribal sleet
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i love beating the mini styx chambers in like a second my favorute

craggy verge
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dangg need to find that combo

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wish we could reroll hammers

brisk trail
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would be op

cerulean cipher
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Triple rocket was the most op build I've ever had

mint coral
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i can tolerate triple rockets but i dont like them

gray apex
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I cant tolerate them bouldy

brisk trail
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if i wanted to play triple rocket id play corki bouldy

craggy verge
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Triple Rocket?

mint coral
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triple bomb + rocket

craggy verge
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Oh

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I guess rocket + Cluster/Triple the way to go

mint coral
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delta chamber is a nice hammer too

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lets you keep iframes on dash even with dash strikes

gray apex
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And Targeting

craggy verge
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I wish I wouldnt jus get like Pierce + Homing Fire + Additional Ammo choice

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Ooh yea Targetting is pretty good too

gray apex
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Additional ammo good cope

craggy verge
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at least it increases your fire rate cope

brisk trail
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its spear only fun hammer flurry jab?

craggy verge
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theres the explosive spear one

mint coral
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quick spin is fun for me at least

craggy verge
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Flurry Jab feels like the best thoufh

mint coral
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also charged skewer on hidden spear

gray apex
craggy verge
brisk trail
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im currently doing em4 runs with spear

craggy verge
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👀

brisk trail
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with 18 heat on average but like

craggy verge
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Flurry Jab + Divine Strike sleeper op squirtdevious

brisk trail
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flurry jab is so OP

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yes

mint coral
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hammer resets tho

brisk trail
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dash strike flurry jab is so ffing good

brisk trail
mint coral
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resetting when hammer isnt the one i want bouldy

craggy verge
mint coral
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at least im on modded now

craggy verge
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👀

brisk trail
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i thought the game always keep the same 3 when you encounter it

gray apex
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You ascended

brisk trail
mint coral
gray apex
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If you give up on a run yea

brisk trail
#

im on console

gray apex
#

But that’s not resetting

brisk trail
mint coral
craggy verge
#

so get yourself killed?

mint coral
#

yuup

gray apex
#

Yup

craggy verge
#

I see

brisk trail
#

frick

craggy verge
#

new hammers

gray apex
#

Changes the seed

craggy verge
#

👀

brisk trail
#

fated persuasion cant change hammer rolls right?

craggy verge
#

no

#

cant reroll hammers

brisk trail
#

:(

gray apex
#

Would be too broken

craggy verge
#

yea sometimes you don get flurry jab shadegrief

#

You get like junk like the sturdy spin and special crit dusa

mint coral
#

rerolling for clockets lol

#

at least would make sword hammers less painful

brisk trail
#

hades aspect

#

ew

mint coral
#

exploding launcher with it is fun

craggy verge
#

why doesnt hades aspect buff the spin dmg

brisk trail
#

yea i know

#

maybe it does and im just dumb

craggy verge
#

Doesnt make sense to me

brisk trail
#

but it doesnt feel good to use

#

with max blood its meh

craggy verge
#

This is why dad stopped using it zaglol

brisk trail
#

lmao

#

he uses the bident

#

and also he uses the achilies aspect on em4 lmao

#

so based

craggy verge
#

👀

mint coral
#

yeet the spear said dad

#

and 50(?) dmg for you

brisk trail
#

his own spear is so bad

craggy verge
#

ouch

brisk trail
#

he uses achillies aspect

craggy verge
#

you know Athenas trap perk actually makes dads green vase things do less dmg

#

3 dmg vase

brisk trail
#

very useful boon

mint coral
#

heightened security also buffs them

craggy verge
#

Wtf

mint coral
#

150 dmg pots

#

have fun with that

craggy verge
#

heightened security sounds like a trap thanthink

brisk trail
#

and the stun can mess you up big time

brisk trail
#

so uhm

#

good luck

craggy verge
#

100 dmg elysium spear?

brisk trail
#

basically

#

i would rather do max calisthenics

#

than heightened security

craggy verge
#

😎

#

Do I need to rank up relationships to unlock hidden aspects?

mint coral
#

Nope

craggy verge
#

i see, just rng?

brisk trail
#

just need to talk to characters yea

mint coral
#

Pinned messages

tribal sleet
#

how do u reach the epilogue of the game ? do u jusy have to max out affinities w thteolympians or ?

brisk trail
#

you just need to max out like 3 or more olympians to trigger the epilouge

#

its pretty easy

#

just play the game and save up ambrosia

#

u need 10 wins also

tribal sleet
#

ok !!!

tribal sleet
livid nymph
#

Idk if it’s intentional or not but sometimes I don’t encounter asterius until I reach the boss encounter but sometimes I do. Why is this?

raw herald
#

Elysium has 2 possible minibosses

last veldt
#

He's got other things to do.

raw herald
#

Sometimes you’ll get the butterfly ball instead

#

Or, you might have just not picked a door with a skull on it

last veldt
#

Maybe it's laundry day, or night

balmy marten
#

Welp... I guess it doesn't get better than Hades as far as gaming goes for me

#

I finally bought and played Dead Cells... the one game that seemed might hold a candle to Hades. Nah. The best way to play Dead Cells is AVOID enemies. Why? It also seems more difficult to steer your runs toward what your want.

frail wedge
#

I went to two different games on opposite ends of the spectrum for roguelikes

#

Hades is a game with tactics and planning and it’s a rich game beyond that

#

Impeccable characters and story only boost the foundation of cane players

#

And the other spectrum is risk of rain 2

#

Which

#

Well

#

Isn’t as tactical

#

Or maybe I need to turn off command bouldy

#

Both are great games on their own

#

But feel so different from each other

balmy marten
#

I have played RoR2. Binding of Isaac. FTL. Gunfire Reborn. Tangle Deep. Cave Blazers. Into The Breach. Darkest Dungeon. Downwell. Dungeon of Rikka. Enter the Gungeon. Helliver. Realm of the Mad God. Rogue Legacy. Spelunky. Slay the Spire.

#

I really like roguelikes. I even played Tales of Maj-whatever

#

Hades is the best. Period.

frail wedge
#

what are most of these lmao

balmy marten
#

They're roguelikes/lites

frail wedge
#

I get what you’re saying

balmy marten
#

I'm sad!

frail wedge
#

Hi sad, I’m Dad!

balmy marten
#

I feel sad

#

Because I've played the best game that exists in my favorite genre of game

frail wedge
#

This is why I don’t have favorite games

balmy marten
#

... eh?

#

I can't help it that Hades is the best.

frail wedge
#

I should rephrase

#

This is why I don’t have A favorite game

#

Leaves myself open

balmy marten
#

ok I wouldn't call it "favorite" but it IS the best

chrome wharf
#

maybe hot take but PMD Explorers is legit a good roguelike

#

esp the endgame dungeons

balmy marten
#

am i suppose to know what PMD stands for

frail wedge
#

My favorite roguelike

chrome wharf
#

Pokémon mystery dungeon

frail wedge
#

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon dusa

#

Wait you weren’t joking

#

Wait what

#

What

balmy marten
#

Don't you have to have a DS or somethihng for that

frail wedge
#

What

#

What

chrome wharf
#

Full disclosure, I wouldn't have known about PMD either had I not randomly received it for free

frail wedge
#

I’m so lost

#

I was completely kidding

balmy marten
#

no I heard of it once before actually

#

I suggested it to a friend because it got high praise and she LOVES pokemon

#

but I never played it

frail wedge
#

Bro melon gave me a whole ass stroke

chrome wharf
#

??????

balmy marten
#

Did anyone ever play Azure Dreams for PS1 or 2 back in the day? That was a dungeon crawler roguelite, and I loved it even as a kid

frail wedge
#

Gonna re-examine my life

chrome wharf
#

I actually do like dead cells gameplay in its own right (learn patterns properly, don't get overwhelmed, take your time) had the game not be so keen on laughing at me for getting hit even once

frail wedge
#

I should try Dead Cells

void vigil
#

if you want to continue talking other video games, #video-games is the channel to do that in shadesmile

balmy marten
#

If you enjoyed Dark Souls A LOT then yes you should

#

Bruh this whole conversation started as me saying Hades is the BEST roguelite game in existence. Anything we say about other games simply implies Hades is better. It's still about Hades. Don't you see?

frail wedge
#

Oop

void vigil
#

😅 sure it is

chrome wharf
#

I think hades' success also lies in it being casual-friendly

#

while also giving hardcores a way to, well, be hardcore

#

I know people who wrote AU fanfic without even reaching credits

frail wedge
chrome wharf
#

even now with a few 40 heat clears I still feel a sense of dread when I answer a question and someone who's better than me starts typing

chrome wharf
#

nah pancake is different
I have a special reaction to him:

calm zenith
#

I have like 1500 hours total in one game and ive been modding it for half a year and I still dont know everything about it

#

Every single detail about a game is a big ask

#

Thats what wikis are for

chrome wharf
#

until they have wrong info residentzag

calm zenith
#

All wikis do

frail wedge
void vigil
#

Anyone can edit and correct the wiki, btw

calm zenith
#

You have to read code and code is very hard to interpret sometimes

chrome wharf
#

thank you hypnos

frail wedge
chrome wharf
#

Hypnos (affectionate)

balmy marten
#

I got to 32 heat and I don't know what AU fanfic is...

void vigil
#

Nothing to do with 32 heat, that’s for sure

chrome wharf
#

Alternate universe fanfiction

balmy marten
#

omg I hate the swearing bot

frail wedge
chrome wharf
#

which is my point exactly, the game caters well both to hardcores and casuals

#

I wonder what's the heat record for someone who has a published fanfiction

void vigil
#

also, 32 heat is really good! Not a lot of people do it if I had to guess

frail wedge
#

My highest is like

#

17

balmy marten
#

Hades is my only 100% game on steam

mint coral
#

32 heat kinda comfy

#

And in the speedrun server words
"Spicy any heat"

frail wedge
#

I’ve been getting carried by Chiron bow for the last 5 heat bouldy

chrome wharf
#

same but that's because the other 2 games I have on steam all have that inordinately hard one I can't bring myself to get

frail wedge
#

Or maybe it’s the fact I have the habit of quitting out of runs where stuff doesn’t go exactly how I want to

void vigil
#

I cheated a little to get the 32 heat statue by redoing the final fight, with how the saves work. I feel a little guilty about it, but I wasn’t that interested in the accomplishment of doing it legit, just the completion of the statues

mint coral
#

Or just outright commit die to change seed

spice hearth
#

i've only ever completed 32 heat once

#

never again

frail wedge
#

Did I tell y’all about the time I accidentally made a cast Arthur build bouldy

spice hearth
#

askbfnkjdsf

#

which cast?

frail wedge
#

Ares

mint coral
#

Arthur speedruns starts phalanx shot lol

frail wedge
#

I got Ares as the final boom in tartarus

#

And I didn’t need anything else so I was like “cast, screw it”

#

I then proceeded to get ares for the next few boons in Ashpodel

#

Getting, in this order

#

Engulfing Vortex, Hunting Blades, and Vicious Cycle

#

Which

#

How???????

#

I don’t get that lucky on Achilles runs

mint coral
#

Rng moment

frail wedge
#

That’s not even RNG

#

That’s just God

spice hearth
#

Ares showed you his favor that day

frail wedge
#

I didn’t even NEED it

#

I needed clean kill, goddamn it

spice hearth
#

that's the first time i've heard someone say that haha

frail wedge
#

And before you ask: Yes I did end up winning that run because again

balmy marten
#

hunting blades alone is often an instant win

tribal sleet
#

i forget how hard hades is when youre not on god mode

frail wedge
#

Engulfing Vortex, Hunting Blades, Vicious Cycle bouldy

mint coral
#

I never remember clean kill

frail wedge
mint coral
#

To the selling pool it goes

spice hearth
#

clean kill is so tiny

mint coral
#

^

frail wedge
#

22% isn’t that tiny

tribal sleet
#

i suck at hades when not on god mode

mint coral
#

If i wanted more il just stack Chaos boons or heart rend

tribal sleet
#

whats clean kill again ?

mint coral
#

Extra crit dmg

frail wedge
balmy marten
#

Am I honestly that good at Hades? I thought 32 heat was kinda normalish for anyone who really likes it. God mode is ridiculous...

tribal sleet
#

ohh

mint coral
#

Like 30% at epic?

frail wedge
#

Exactly

spice hearth
#

Crit is already 300%, an extra 22-35% is a drop in the bucket

mint coral
#

Isnt my priority on crit builds lol

#

Mark is gaming tho

frail wedge
#

Usually my Chiron runs go the same way

spice hearth
#

yeah, crit chance>more crit damage

frail wedge
#

Artemis keepsake for the special

tribal sleet
#

i really like the game i just really suck at dodging attacks

frail wedge
#

Aphrodite keepsake if I’m not lucky

#

Heart Rend shows up around Asphodel

#

Usually get additional crit damage in Elysian

#

Proceed to mow through everything else

mint coral
frail wedge
#

I just don’t feel like emotional torture bouldy

mint coral
#

Also can love Hades without going into higher heats

#

(Even tho the statue is worth it)

tribal sleet
#

jm mostly here for the stoey but the gameplay as well ,
i just want to get thru the runs without getting my butt beat

#

yes statue is absolutely worth it

void vigil
#

god mode is part of the game, and everyone should play the game the way they want to

tribal sleet
#

ues !!

#

i dont see a reason in shaming ppl for using it

frail wedge
mint coral
#

My first 32 heat attempt was fun't

#

Chiron dc2 js2-3 isnt exactly the best

tribal sleet
#

i am here for closure foe greek tradegies (ahem eurydice & orpheus and achilles & patroclus)

frail wedge
#

Idk man

#

Achilles just shouldn’t have died

mint ember
#

just me or does poseidon have the most useless boons

tribal sleet
#

im Currently readjnf the iliad, i just started

#

he shouldnt have <//3

lone kernel
mint ember
#

i meant like percent wise

mint coral
#

Cast + breaking wave deletes styx too

mint ember
#

of all the useless boons in the game

frail wedge
mint coral
#

Oh yeah % is bad lol

mint ember
#

most of them are poseidon

lone kernel
mint coral
#

Kinda fun with super soaker but eh

narrow hemlock
tribal sleet
mint coral
#

Big fan of poseidon call tho

#

Rip current such a neat boon

frail wedge
#

I like Posiedon Gilgamesh

#

Because everything in Styx does

tribal sleet
#

poseidon call is rlly cool i love it

#

wnd the one where he pulls foes in

#

when using the call

#

!!!

#

my favorite

void vigil
#

its soo hard to control with keyboard but i do like it

tribal sleet
#

it is

#

and it does a ton of dmg too

chrome wharf
#

I made an Arthur dash build with Smoldering Ares Aid

mint ember
#

why is it that the runs im not trying to focus on speed are my fastest ones lol

frail wedge
#

I prefer Dionysus call

mint ember
#

im just farming darkness rn so im not worried about speed and im on pace for pb ofc i am

tribal sleet
#

i havent gotten dionysus’ call in a while

#

i like artemis’ call

tribal sleet
#

WOO !!!

calm zenith
#

If only call charged while calling

#

This would be infinite poseidon aid

tribal sleet
#

THAT WLD BE SO FUN

#

zoom

calm zenith
#

At least Eris produces call fast

#
  • smair ofc
#

3.8 second poseidon aid lol

tribal sleet
#

im Wondering , what are good mirror builds ?

mint coral
frail wedge
#

One day I’m gonna download that codex mod to do that beyblade build I’ve wanted to do

calm zenith
#

Ah hestia

#

Same

mint ember
#

ive yet to ever get satyr sack first room

calm zenith
#

Eris with this would be sick

frail wedge
#

Cast? Speen

balmy marten
#

how come i cant share my victory screens?

frail wedge
#

Aid? Speen

#

Dash?

calm zenith
#

1000 damage slams

frail wedge
#

S P E E N

tribal sleet
mint coral
#

Than run was old aphro start into poseidon giving both call and rip current in tart lol

calm zenith
#

Nice

frail wedge
calm zenith
#

I should do a poseidon aid cod run

#

I am kinda bored rn

frail wedge
#

I wanna do Ares smair

#

For the hell of it

calm zenith
#

I like ares call defensively tbh

mint coral
#

Ares call ron

calm zenith
#

Like if I just need a call and it shows up

mint coral
#

Was that a new boon? (Joke ofc)

tribal sleet
#

this is somewhat off topic but i think its really funny how all of olympus somehow knows that ur dating than and/or meg

frail wedge
chrome wharf
tribal sleet
#

beyblade let it rip

mossy adder
tribal sleet
#

yeah and then. they tell absolutely Everyone

mossy adder
#

And done

mint coral
#

Nice

chrome wharf
#

Aphrodite told everyone

tribal sleet
#

or maybe hermes

mint coral
#

Was thinking Hermes too

tribal sleet
#

bcz he hears abt absolutely everything

chrome wharf
mossy adder
#

Thank you \o/

mint coral
balmy marten
#

Who here isn't vaccinated so I can block your dumbass?

mossy adder
#

What else is there to the game? I think I've plenty of nectar to farm, there's heat, there's gemstones to gather.. yeah, got some playtime left in it

frail wedge
chrome wharf
#

Once pandemic is less crazy I'm gonna get a custom puzzle made from that picture

mint coral
#

Also stories from the other npcs

tribal sleet
#

yeas

mossy adder
#

Very neat, where does the epilogue start?

frail wedge
#

Anyways

tribal sleet
#

theres a lot more to do

#

persephone will discuss it w u

#

check the prophecies twble

mossy adder
#

Just keep playing and talking to her, then?

mint coral
#

Also new keepsakes

frail wedge
#

If you guys had to fight a Hades enemy (could be anything) which one would you choose?

tribal sleet
#

yes

chrome wharf
#

there's a stack of dialogue with Persephone, Hades, Zeus and Demeter

mossy adder
#

Skelly.

tribal sleet
#

like u can gift ||persephone and hades now||

mossy adder
#

Thanks 🙂 i'll just keep playing

tribal sleet
#

cool new keepsakes

frail wedge
mossy adder
#

Enemy of the state is what he is

frail wedge
#

Skelly is a bro

mint ember
#

new pb 13:55 on a run where i wasnt even trying to go fast ofc lmao

frail wedge
#

He’s Hypnos, but cool

mint coral
#

Who gonna try to throw hands with Charon

tribal sleet
#

do Not slander hypnos like that

chrome wharf
calm zenith
#

Make sure to get Engulfing on an Ares call run too

tribal sleet
#

GOD. I REMMEBER STEALING FROM CHARON FOR THE FIRST TIME …

chrome wharf
#

Hypnos my beloved

frail wedge
mint coral
#

Yeah that makes sense

calm zenith
#

Duration and its engulfing. Super good.

mint ember
#

I would choose Charon.

mint coral
#

Fight a vermin

#

Kick it

tribal sleet
#

if charon gives me a kiss i will fight him

#

wait no You saw Nothing

mint ember
#

I would die no matter who I choose and I know Charon dont play

frail wedge
#

Charon seems like the type of guy I’d smoke a joint wirh

calm zenith
#

I kinda wish the Slicing Shot duos effected other sources of blade rifts

mint ember
#

so he'll kill me quick and easy

calm zenith
#

Like Hunting makes call move faster

frail wedge
#

Literally broken

calm zenith
#

Yeah

frail wedge
#

OH

mint coral
#

Imagine if the legendsry wasnt broken

frail wedge
#

SPEAKING OF SLICING SHOT DUOS

mint coral
#

Why it only works correctly in the call lmso

frail wedge
#

LEMME TELL YOU A STORY

#

so, Achilles run, right?

#

Going for Freezing Vortex

#

I not only got a Demeter after Ares in Tartarus

#

I got Freezing Vortex IN tartarus

tribal sleet
#

Fartarus

#

teehee

frail wedge
#

Black Metal, Killing Freeze, AND Vicious Cycle in Asphodel

#

And the Demeter legendary was the first boon I got in Elysium

tribal sleet
#

Woah …

#

whats demeters legendary again ?

mint coral
#

God legacy gaming?

tribal sleet
#

ur lucky as poopoo

mint coral
tribal sleet
#

OHHH

frail wedge
#

So, great run, right?

tribal sleet
#

Woah .. that js so cool …

mint coral
#

Also offers one liners to bosses

frail wedge
#

I then make

tribal sleet
#

did u beat dad up

frail wedge
#

A critical mistake

tribal sleet
#

uh oh !

frail wedge
#

I CANT SAY C*CKY

#

REALLY

#

Anyways

tribal sleet
#

i think cuz of the root word

frail wedge
#

I’m feeling overly confident

#

So I heal in Charons shop

chrome wharf
#

say smug

frail wedge
#

And then tell him to catch these hands

tribal sleet
#

Oh God

frail wedge
#

EM3 Charon proceeds to kill one of my death defiances

tribal sleet
#

ik where tjis is goinf

mint coral
#

Charon moment

frail wedge
#

So that killed some confidence

tribal sleet
#

charon momento

frail wedge
#

But I take the card and leave

tribal sleet
#

DID U GET PAT AT LEAST ??

#

PATROCLUS ???!?!

frail wedge
#

STRAIGHT into EM3 Asterius

tribal sleet
#

GOD

#

im so Sorry. for ur loss

frail wedge
#

He then takes two death defiances

tribal sleet
#

DID U GET PATROCLUS PLZ TELL ME U DID

frail wedge
#

Nope!

#

Died to Asterius in the boss room

tribal sleet
mint coral
#

Charon wells at least?

#

oh

frail wedge
#

I was so mad

tribal sleet
#

so sorry for u

frail wedge
#

Absolutely FUMING

tribal sleet
#

unm … dont mess with charon ??

frail wedge
#

I will never get that lucky again

mint coral
#

Something something confidence kills or idk

tribal sleet
#

do not steal from charon or it will be absolute death

frail wedge
#

I should’ve just taken the Gold I would’ve gotten for free in the next room

#

Well, not free

#

But basically free

tribal sleet
#

it couldve been a fountain chamber who knows

frail wedge
#

IT PROBABLY WAS

tribal sleet
#

THATS SO SAD TO THINK ANOUT

frail wedge
#

IT IS

#

Moral of the story: do not mess with EM3 Charon

tribal sleet
#

em3 is like the highest right ?

frail wedge
#

Em4 is the highest

tribal sleet
#

or was it 4

#

YEAH

#

i fought em4 charon once and died

mint coral
#

EM doesnt affect charon

frail wedge
#

Wait what

tribal sleet
#

WAIT RLLY ?

mint coral
#

Yup

tribal sleet
#

he rlly did seem harder

mint coral
#

Only the main bosses

tribal sleet
#

maybe it just made me thjnk that way …

#

Ok

#

moral of the story

#

dont mess with charon

mint coral
#

Pacts thst affect him i think are: HL-CP-FO-DC

#

So the general enemy buffs

tribal sleet
#

em4 theseus and asterius look so silly

#

asterius looks adorable in it

frail wedge
lone kernel
#

Then they murder you

tribal sleet
#

it is so weird callinf a bull man adorable but

mint coral
#

The mask is hilarious

tribal sleet
#

IT IS

mint coral
#

And Achilles comfirming it was made to be dumb looking

tribal sleet
#

THAT WAS SO FUNNY AHEHEH

#

didnt he say the guy who made it even thought it was stupid looking

mint coral
#

Yup

tribal sleet
#

its so silly jow theseus has whole machine guns lkke…

mint coral
#

Meh we have a rail

tribal sleet
#

true

mint coral
#

And is as silly

tribal sleet
#

its not too out of the question

mint coral
#

Not even speaking of lucifer rail

#

Laser beam moment

tribal sleet
#

PLZ YEAH

spice hearth
#

i wish daedalus would make me golden OP armor smh

mint coral
#

Hades but you use the chariot

tribal sleet
#

HELL YEAH !!!

high pollen
#

The dude literally turns into an ac130 its so cool

tribal sleet
#

one of my favorite things is using hades’ greater call while against him

mint coral
#

Father!

#

Son!

high pollen
#

Ironically i find him easier in that form than normal because i don't have to time spear dodges anymore

mint coral
#

My fav reactions are to bouldy summons tho

#

"Was that a boulder from the sky?"

tribal sleet
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i always use summons when hes shooting out lazers everywhere bcz hes standing still in one place

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HAHEHA

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lasers

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why did they spell lasers with an s

mint coral
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I mainly use meg summon so i just shoot it at the start

chrome wharf
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Bc it's an acronym

sour isle
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been using lazer aspect rail, wtf this is op

high pollen
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Best reaction for me by far is using athena call in her trial

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Tsundere power

chrome wharf
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Light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation

tribal sleet
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bruh idk how to use lucifer rail i suck at jtspongelbobsads spongelbobsads

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does anyone have tips 4 it

twin thistle
chrome wharf
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Shoot special into enemies and blow them up

twin thistle
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get triple bomb. profit

tribal sleet
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Ok 👍

chrome wharf
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Dashing while holding the attack button does not interrupt the beam