h1-discussion

[south sapphire]

too broken

[gray apex]

It's okay lol

[south sapphire]

its just +1 deathdefiance

[last veldt]

It's fine. Helpful for early players but there's better.

[south sapphire]

fe?

[last veldt]

Acorn is better once you are reliably getting to bosses and not dying much in normal rooms.

[gray apex]

It's not a death defiance

It's 100 hp

Death Defiance is 50% of your hp

[devout peak]

It still counts as a dd

It's coded as one

Just doesn't give as much hp

[last veldt]

Yeah it's a slightly special DD, but a DD nonetheless

[devout peak]

Btw, I started a hera aphro cast build today

I brought my laptop to school

I think the school is lucky

[south sapphire]

hello wth i only see 2 dd
ive got 2 dd from mirror but the skelly keepsake should give 1 right?
oh its here when i started the run lmao

[devout peak]

Because I got aphro cast rare, spash dash rare, quick reload and epic Arti attack

😆

[devout peak]

Yes, skelly's counts as one extra

It shows as a tooth

[last veldt]

The Skelly DD has a different icon. You also only keep the DD while the keepsake is equipped

[devout peak]

And it activatea as the last dd

After you used up all of them

[south sapphire]

its here when i started it lol

[devout peak]

Now. If you lose all your dd's before elysium

And you were to get a Patroclus refill

You'd replace the tooth with a normal dd

[south sapphire]

do keys become useless after unlocking every mirror thing and weapon

[devout peak]

But it's not worth losing all of them

[devout peak]

No

[last veldt]

I'm not sure that's true

[devout peak]

When you get keys throughout a run you get rerrols

[south sapphire]

just for exchanging in lounge/

[south sapphire]

OOOOOOOOOOOH the thing which lets u change the reward

[devout peak]

If you have the contractor upgrade

[last veldt]

As in you don't get an extra slot for DDs

[devout peak]

You just get a normal dd

Instead of a skelly 100hp revive

[south sapphire]

skelly charm is broken

keepsake*

[last veldt]

Really? Huh. I thought once Skelly was used the slot was gone.

[devout peak]

Nope

You have 4 slots

You get a refill for 4 slots

[last veldt]

Cool. I've not used Skelly in hundreds of runs so must have forgotten

[devout peak]

Not really, once you get good enough at the game you won't need the 4th revive

But until you feel like you're not at that level

It's really good

With that I agree

[devout peak]

I use it when I feel unsure about winning

[south sapphire]

i have skill issue

[last veldt]

I'd still use Acorn tbh

[devout peak]

I want to try a meme run with only one boon and mom pom

To get to like level 30 with it

[last veldt]

That's harder than it looks

[devout peak]

I know

[south sapphire]

wth is that

[last veldt]

Gotta know which are the pommable boons

[south sapphire]

i

[devout peak]

Mom keepsake

Persephone keepsake gives you a pom

Every few rooms

For a random boon

If you have one pommable boon

It's always going to hit it

[last veldt]

Haelian got Aphrodite cast up to lvl 52 IIRC

[south sapphire]

how to get that

give nectar to her?

[devout peak]

Beat the game 10 times

[last veldt]

Yup

[devout peak]

You'll be able to give her nectar after that

[south sapphire]

.

[devout peak]

[south sapphire]

i love it whenever people overestimate my skill at a game

[devout peak]

You'll beat it 10 times

No worries

If I did

You can do it too

The 10th win is arguably the easiest win you'll ever get

For a reason I'm not going to spoil

[south sapphire]

ive seen the ending of the true ending

just the screen

family reunited

idk wtf that means

[last veldt]

Hades is all about practice and knowledge of which builds work well

What's not to understand about a family getting back together?

[devout peak]

For which reason I recommend Hera Aphro cast builds

It is quite op

[last veldt]

They work. There are many others. I like Chiron Dionysus (Special) when I want a safe build, or Hestia Aphrodite.

Or Beowulf with Poseidon or Dionysus or Aphrodite.

[devout peak]

Beowulf with Ares though

👀

[last veldt]

Urgh

[devout peak]

Become an unkillable vortex of blades

[last veldt]

I dislike Ares cast so much.

[devout peak]

Unless it's hunting blades

It ain't working on the other aspects

[last veldt]

Yeah, that makes it tolerable.

[gray apex]

Is pretty bad yea

[south sapphire]

perce is back ig

no more spoiler pls

[tawny arrow]

i just had hades say that hes asked the contractor to make a sundial is there a way i can actually make it

also can someone explain to me why i cant give dusa an ambrosia? ive cleaned up cerberus, ive made a rug and ive bought a bunch of other upgrades but when i encounter her i cant give her an ambrosia

[devout peak]

she's just

very kind

[tawny arrow]

nyx made her afraid huh

[last veldt]

Yes, the sundial is a cosmetic thing you can get.

You just need to wait for a special dialogue with Dusa to allow you to give Ambrosia (once you buy 10 items for the lounge)

[calm cove]

dang the shield op even with a mid build lmao

[last veldt]

And yet for me the shield felt to be one of the weakest weapons (apart from Beo).

I couldn't get into the whole idea of standing still and blocking

[tawny arrow]

ive done that

and shes mentioned it

[calm cove]

beo?

[tawny arrow]

in the codex it also shows that i can give her ambrosia

[tawny arrow]

||beowulf i think (the last aspect of the shield)||

[calm cove]

so i’ve unlocked all keepsakes now, who should i give the rest of my nectars to?

[tawny arrow]

have you gotten the summons

[calm cove]

the ones below the keepsakes? no

[tawny arrow]

do you want examples of who they can be

[calm cove]

yeah sure go ahead

[tawny arrow]

meg, dusa, thanatos and i think skelly and achilles there might be one more dunno

they all do different things

[calm cove]

how can i unlock those summons? i’ll just give them nectars?

[tawny arrow]

then ambrosia but you also have to do favors

[calm cove]

oh ok ty lightning

[tawny arrow]

np

you can also search it up if you want

[calm cove]

aight

[devout peak]

there is also Sisyphus

you missed him

and he has the second most useful one

[tawny arrow]

whos the most useful

[devout peak]

could be argued that it's the most useful one in some cases

It's either Megaera's for dmg

because it

is also fast

or Sisy

because it gives you health back, 1k dmg on cast and some coins

[tawny arrow]

oh thats good

[devout peak]

Thanatos might sound good because its the most dmg

but it casts very slowly

so you can miss it easily on bosses

[tawny arrow]

what about dusa? she turns ppl into stone

[devout peak]

Could be good in some niche builds

but idk

Meg's and Sisyphus' are the most reliable ones

[runic parrot]

meg is probably the most useful

its fast and does a decent amt of damage

[devout peak]

without any heat, it's about 20-25% of Asterius hp

[runic parrot]

sisyphus' is funny because bosses cant hit you through the collectible darkness and coins

[tawny arrow]

well currently im so far into dusa's one but i cant give her ambrosia

[devout peak]

the health you get is really valuable too

[tawny arrow]

just make a circle around you and you cant die lol

[devout peak]

she just so happens to be a sweetheart

and she doesn't accept such gifts

[red cypress]

have you renovated the lounge?

[tawny arrow]

yes

shes acknowledged it

[red cypress]

ah hm

[tawny arrow]

im at the point where in the codex it shows i can give her the ambrosia

[red cypress]

is it ticked off in the list of minor prophesies?

[devout peak]

How to get Meg's companion: fight the furies and beat them after you gave Meg enough nectar
How to get Dusa companion: Play sims

[tawny arrow]

wdym

[red cypress]

girl knows what shes worth

there should be a prophecy about the lounge favour?

[devout peak]

she's a floating head and a sweet person, gorgon I guess

[tawny arrow]

i think ive done it

not 100% sure

[red cypress]

if its not ticked off on the list u might need to burn through some more gems

[tawny arrow]

._.

[devout peak]

for the more well versed people here who played heat more

is EM2 with tight deadline 3 a good combo?

I'll try it

and see for myself ig

[runic parrot]

its fine

[tawny arrow]

random question but how many times can i fish per run

[runic parrot]

once you get a hang of getting sub 20s td3 isnt a problem at all

[runic parrot]

iirc, after you fish, it blocks a fishing spot from spawning within the 10 next rooms

poseidon's second (and more awesome) legendary negates that and allows it to spawn whenever

its like a 15% chance of spawning i think

[tawny arrow]

+20% chance

[runic parrot]

yeah it adds that but it was a base 15% or something

idk the exact numbers rly

but it works sorta like that

[pine lark]

quick question, i havent played the game for a decent while (like 6 months) and i didnt get rlly far in the game (about a third through) so should i start from scratch again? cuz i dont remember where i left off and wut my plan was

[tawny arrow]

depends how "far" youve gotten in youre current save

[pine lark]

about a third without beating the game

10 attempts but they were long attempts (for me 😝 )

[tawny arrow]

if you havent beat the game then just continue

and also how many keepsakes do you have have you unlocked the aspects yet

[pine lark]

see thats the point

i dont remember anything from the game

[tawny arrow]

if you dont mind starting again then you can start again but if you dont want to you could just watch a few videos

[devout peak]

I got ME in Asphodel

with Zeus shield

I am cracked

[calm cove]

is it ok to replace my ambrosia to a titan blood?

[tawny arrow]

prolly not worth it

at least imo

[calm cove]

ok ok

[tawny arrow]

where do the hades screenshots save?

[devout terrace]

if you're on pc it should be in your images folder

[magic drum]

they got a button for that?

[tawny arrow]

i dunno what it was but i beat hades once more and then it let me give her the ambrosia

[arctic marten]

Does the eurydice cheese still work?

Like quitting

To change boon rewards and such

Or is it locked

[gray apex]

Yes

[high island]

.../Documents/Saved Games/Hades/Screenshots

Should be there.

[tawny arrow]

yup found it thanks

[high island]

[frank wren]

hello, is there any info about odds of getting chaos gate? on general it's getting more rare as you go up right?

*in general

without forcing it with well item

[lone kernel]

this is anecdotal but i'd estimate around 75p/50p/25p chance by biome

assuming no light of ixion from the well

[frank wren]

sorry what does p means?

oh percent

nvm

[lone kernel]

Percent

Sorry, I lived with lax bros for a year in college and I still speak their language here and there lol

[frank wren]

no worries mate

[gray apex]

Sounds a bit off

[lone kernel]

It almost certainly is

That was approximated

[gray apex]

Yea fair

[lone kernel]

I opened zero sources to get a number lol

Just what I’ve noticed

I’m sure someone will come along with the data sooner or later

[marble badge]

15% chance for each eligible chamber in tartarus, 7.5% asphodel, 5% elysium

[gray apex]

[lone kernel]

Percentages make my brain stop working what does that add up to

[marble badge]

it depends on how many eligible chambers you actually get in a run

[lone kernel]

That’s per chamber mine was per biome like was I remotely close lol

[marble badge]

that's why I didn't give you one

but if we say like

[lone kernel]

oh wait this is gonna need like

spreadsheets

[marble badge]

you get at least 6 eligible chambers in tart you're "pretty likely" to see a chaos in tart

[lone kernel]

Let’s say 6/4/6 eligible chambers?

just to help my smol brain keep up with the maths

[marble badge]

63%, 27%, 26.5%

[lone kernel]

Wow asphodel and elysium are like the same

I guess asphodel being shorter accounts for it

[marble badge]

yeah

[lone kernel]

@gray apex yep, I am doodoo at math

Wait a sec first asphodel chamber can have chaos what if it’s 6/5/6 then what happens

[gray apex]

Well first Ely aswell

[marble badge]

i'm counting that and not counting extension chaos so it balances out

[lone kernel]

Oh ok

[marble badge]

it's just an estimate anyway

one extra chamber would help your chances a little bit but not a ton

[lone kernel]

Was surprised that the ely and asphodel numbers were so close

[green dune]

Need help in #video-games

[hearty tree]

Do you get to keep the damage boost from pierced butterfly if you swap it out?

[gray apex]

no

[hearty tree]

Ok

Thanks

[high island]

So ask there?

[green dune]

I did?

[hearty mural]

Have I just been super unlucky to not have a single fish in hades fight for the past 15 attempts?

[rotund galleon]

maximum amount of dashes you can get is 8 right?

[raw herald]

Yes

[rotund galleon]

thank

[raw herald]

Although in that scenario 7 dashes with ruthless reflex is much better

But the max is 8 yeah

[tawny arrow]

is there a way to make hades "run" in the background

since if you alt tab away it becomes frozen

[high island]

Yeah.

Steam Library > right-click on Hades > Properties... > set Launch Options to /RequireFocusToUpdate=false

[hearty mural]

Does dash strike damage bonus affect fists dash special upper?

[lone kernel]

Gilgamesh, heroic hermes dashes right

[high island]

Yes. But not the Dash-Strike hammers.

[tawny arrow]

thanks!

[wraith garnet]

What’s the best weapon

[raw herald]

For what?

[tawny arrow]

they are all really balanced imo

[high island]

Love.

[tawny arrow]

and what makes everything op are usually builds

[tawny arrow]

aka aphrodites call

[raw herald]

For heat and speed, rails, bows and shields perform well, while swords and fists don’t perform as well. For normal runs it doesn’t matter so much, use the one that you like

[feral belfry]

What does "pre run death" mean? I see it in a lot of high heat videos

[gray apex]

It's showing a death before the actual run starts to verify that it is not seeded

[brisk trail]

how does butterfly and other dmg% boosts work with hangover?

[raw herald]

Global damage buffs boost hangover damage

[gray apex]

Butterfly is global damage is so it boosts it

[raw herald]

Butterfly is global damage

[floral sphinx]

What other Supergiant games are as good as Hades?

[feral belfry]

Are seeded runs not considered legit, or just an even higher level of difficulty added?

[mint coral]

Yes

[raw herald]

Seeded runs are legit but they’re compared to Vorimes 2:58

So a 7:00 seeded is less impressive than a 7:00 unseeded

[gray apex]

Seeded means you know something about the run, which makes it easier, like seeing a hammer that you want/ core boon that you want or even have a full route

[raw herald]

Because you could have “cheated”

[feral belfry]

So what your saying is a 60 heat unseeded is hard lol

[high island]

They're just separate categories.

[gray apex]

The leaderboard is split yea

[gray apex]

maybe

[feral belfry]

Brb gunna do it real quick

[gray apex]

Go ahead

[feral belfry]

I died

[chrome wharf]

you'll gettem next time

[red cypress]

have realised i cannot start playing this game for at least four hours after taking my meds because if the Stimulant Focus decides im tackling a new heat level today then im stuck hunching over the switch like a gremlin and will not be released until my entire upper body is cramps and my joystick thumb has fallen off

[feral belfry]

Sounds like exactly what you should do

[brisk quiver]

Hey guys is there a Lucifer guide?

This weapon kinda weird

[lone kernel]

i find flash fire or i'm screwed tbh

[twin thistle]

triple bomb

[lone kernel]

that helps too

[chrome wharf]

Tempest strike, blast enemies into walls

[twin thistle]

supersoaker more a meme

[chrome wharf]

Frost strike + Arctic blast, ice beam

Well it works

[devout terrace]

-retrash for some reason

[chrome wharf]

Like sure I can do the high heat builds but where fun

[devout terrace]

Retrash actually got 53 with frost strike

[chrome wharf]

tried running the luci 60 build at 40 heat, got the exact boons and died in Aspho
haven't recovered yet

I say, while I probably played luci less than 10 times total

[high island]

The tried-and-true build is Lightning Strike + Static Discharge with Tidal Dash and a decent % Special. So... the same build as Eris, pretty much.

[twin thistle]

mnk also helps a lot for aiming luci bombs

[high island]

Monk? We're playing Final Fantasy now?

[chrome wharf]

moon n' kitkats

[high island]

Triple Bomb is easily #1. The other hammers are actually all pretty good, though. I'd suggest just trying them all and picking your personal favorites.... that is, favorites after Triple Bomb.

[brisk quiver]

Triple bomb helps? I got that one run but didn't pick it cause i wasn't sure

[twin thistle]

well it triples your special damage basically

much better than most of the other hammer options for luci

[brisk quiver]

I never really know where to place the Lucifer special

[high island]

I think just mash the button most of the time tbh. The closer you are to your enemies, the harder it is to miss.

Like don't think too much about where, just shoot them wherever they do damage.

You usually want them go off asap anyway for the massive burst damage, so the closer they are to you, the easier you can get set them of.

And Tidal Dash also easily takes care of that.

[modern robin]

Why tf can’t I romance Artemis 😡👊

[last veldt]

What you mean the canonically aromantic goddess? I've no idea why your can't romance her...

[modern robin]

I was under the assumption If I exclusively did her boons it would do something idk, I just felt like joining and saying that lol

[last veldt]

I mean she's great and all, but definitely not the romancing type.

[modern robin]

What

[last veldt]

You could always pretend you're Achilles I guess, she does fangirl over him.

[gleaming citrus]

Hi, I need help. I do not get the hidden look of the cuffs. the bull does not talk to me about them and I take everything to the fullest.

Are the conversations random or do I have to do something specific?

[gray apex]

Read the pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion

[gleaming citrus]

Oh thanks and sorry dhsjsb

[brisk quiver]

wow max level chaos shield is nuts

[craggy verge]

I was just thinking that it's pretty neat if Zagreus is the God of Blood/Life because each run he gets stronger and adapts to the Underworld. Kind of like survival of the fittest and all.

[devout peak]

Nah

Zag is Jesus on steroids

🗿

[gleaming citrus]

Ok, sorry but another question with this

If the character does not appear to me or does not tell me about it, can I die on purpose or do I have to kill Hades to have new conversations?

[gray apex]

Dying works

[gleaming citrus]

Thanks!!

[oak ibex]

I took this completely out of context, and god, if someone saw me here in the library, they probably would have laughed at my expression

[gray apex]

lol

[lone kernel]

[subtle mason]

how would guys rate a ratio of 7 successful runs to 40 deaths (47 total) because i think im doing quite well but im not sure

[chrome wharf]

It's hard to say because of factors like heat, how upgraded your kit is, etc

[subtle mason]

fair enough

[gray apex]

Yea as long as you’re progressing you’re doing good

[chrome wharf]

if you're on 47 total runs ever, it's pretty good, took me 44 to get the first win

[high island]

Why rate it at all?

But then again, m not a guy, so I guess I wasn't asked.

[subtle mason]

thats my total runs ever, so im happy now

although i do see why people wouldnt rate it, i just like knowing how im doing in general in a game

[chrome wharf]

I'm like 30-50% guy but forcefully insert myself anyway

[brisk trail]

wdym 30% guy

[formal jacinth]

I think the story shows that Zag is the god of blood/family, seeing that his strength comes from being able to appeal to and bring together his relatives to support his cause and gain their blessings. The concepts of blood and family are used throughout the game design and narrative. Hmmm now I have to wonder if the use of the word “blood” as kin is a concept ancient greeks used and would be appropriate concept to use when interpreting the mythology. Where does this figurative use of “blood” originate from anyways?

[craggy verge]

Hmmm didnt think of this interpretation, blood as family concept I think orginates more from feudal europe rather than Ancient Greece though

I also see Zag as life since Thanatos (death) is always following him 😎

Ugh I almost got Hades with shield

With only 1 DD left but he got me in the end

[high island]

In-game, he calls himself the God of Blood. One of the design docs calls him the God of Blood and Fire.

[mint ember]

Yea the god of blood/familial bonds isn't an interpretation its directly from Achilles himself

Who i think has spent the most time with Zagreus out of the entire cast of characters

[high island]

Well, "familial bonds" is an interpretation.

[craggy verge]

I thought Achilles just calls him the god of blood

Which of course has a lotta evidence due to blood shards and how he bleeds red

Other aspects of blood are interpretations

[high island]

Achillles says he thinks he's probably the God of Blood. After that, Zagreus himself sometimes declares "I am the God of Blood" when you start a run, after one of those flashbacks.

[craggy verge]

Ares also mentions it

"War and Blood together" or something like that

[high island]

Your performance has changed so much from your first run to your most recent run, that win ratio tells you pretty much nothing about how you're doing now tbh. More meaningful for that would simply be how you performed in your most recent run.

[mint ember]

At some point it will stop being about which runs are successful

At which point it'll be about how successful the run is

[raw herald]

Yeah, whether it be heat, speed or a specific challenge

Or maybe just a really fast boss kill

[tribal mist]

hi guys if you have extra hades game code for ps4 can i have one please please i really want to play it pleaseee

[hearty mural]

Does wearing the primordial egg make you take extra damage from hades?

[spice hearth]

nope

[hearty mural]

I feel like I’m crazy but hades all of a sudden is doing insane damage, like double what I’ve seen before and that’s the only difference

Also I can’t for the life of me get rip current no matter how hard I try

[spice hearth]

oh, you may have been hit by boiling blood

he deals double damage when the skull is inside you

[hearty mural]

I guess that’s what o get for spamming dash strikes around him

I don’t know how to feel since sometimes it’s laughably easy with no death defiances lost the whole run and other times I’ll sweat like crazy just to die halfway into phase 2 when I felt like I played the same both runs

[hearty mural]

Achievement

“Fated list of minor prophecies” is just achievements

The achievement is to beat hades with the egg, chaos thinks it will be funny

[craggy verge]

You think Zagreus could actually be in Olympus without keeling over? 🤔

[dusky hearth]

Bro this whole time I've been playing the game without giving much thought to my build or anything 😭

[runic parrot]

some will tell you it is

do not believe them

(it's alright, but personally i do not find it as fast as the others)

[chrome wharf]

of? The fists? Demeter

[mint ember]

I like gilgamesh

Has very funny potential

Although demeter is the fastest

Speed isn't always the main motivator

[craggy verge]

Whew Dionysus + Demeter with Hera bow is pretty silly 👀

perma freeze everything

[vivid talon]

Ooh I’ve messed with Dio on that, never thought about adding Demeter

[craggy verge]

Yea they got a duo boon which creates an ice vortex

I also got Demeter's Decay and Dio's Legendary

so just drop a Vortex on someone with a Hangover arrow, they quickly get like 10 stacks of chill, cant run out of cloud and die to boosted Decay

[old tapir]

Random detail I just noticed: the "syncing cross save" noise is in sync with the tempo of the title screen music so it sounds nice

[surreal grotto]

What’s your favorite cosmetic improvements? I bought everything for the bedroom and I guess I’m gonna start on the Lounge now?

[slim geyser]

just buying everything that i can for cerberus

[surreal grotto]

Oh I got him a bed before I started buying upgrades the tartarus!

[feral belfry]

And toys

[chrome wharf]

new chair for dad just to see it get renovated while he's still sitting on it

[surreal grotto]

Maybe that’ll make him finally love me.

[chrome wharf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/871832319156166676/DisapPATmentChampion.gif

[feral belfry]

That's gotta be uncomfortable for his nose

[chrome wharf]

well too bad

[feral belfry]

[chrome wharf]

hades finally appreciating zag by putting him as employee of the run is hilarious bc zag is all "kek how's the pain of seeing me up there" and hades just looks at him like "I approved it yknow" and zag had to take an hour or two to process this turn of events

[brisk trail]

does the hermes attack speed make the spin charge up faster?

[oak ibex]

This is the strange gif I have seen...imma keep it

[devout terrace]

DisaPATntment champion

[pearl dust]

should i play hades on controller or kbm?

not sure which is bettter to learnt he game with

just started btw

[distant vessel]

Controller imo

[gray apex]

Preference

No strict better

[rapid forum]

Controller and mouse

[gray apex]

I prefer steering wheel

[pearl dust]

lmao

also do i use d pad or analog sticks?

[fast willow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/907552484074074155/929302364547063818/unknown.png

weird

[gray apex]

D pad for menus

Analog for movement

[pearl dust]

ight

[fast willow]

i finished upto 20 heat but rewards exist for 0

[pearl dust]

also should i use the buttons or the pedal buttons i have on the back of my controller?

[gray apex]

It varies for a few things, the Reload button is uncomfortable on rails so you change it to a back button and the same goes for the Cast button on a few aspects, the rest is preference, some people like their Dash on a back button too

[twin thistle]

you dont really need them especially if you have weird ass bindings like me so you can hit every button at the same time

[gray apex]

[feral belfry]

I play on a guitar hero guitar

[full nexus]

No

[halcyon girder]

Does Hephaestus blessing counts as a boon?

[boreal jetty]

can you get || "100% Olympian Free" || even if you take chaos boons?

[devout terrace]

its Daedalus, and no

[halcyon girder]

Oh

Okay good

[south sapphire]

eyo wtf alecto spawned in megs place

HELP

[halcyon girder]

wha?

[south sapphire]

NOOOOOOOO

[halcyon girder]

Like the boss room?

[south sapphire]

YES

THERES ALECTO

[gray apex]

You can get another fury instead of Meg yea

[south sapphire]

INSTEAD OF MEG

NO

WHY

[gray apex]

You will see Meg again eventually

[halcyon girder]

OOOH that's what they mean

Yeah it happens

She's the most easiest one if I have to say

Or was it the other one

[south sapphire]

..

[halcyon girder]

I couldn't remember

[south sapphire]

im struggling on the bone hydra help

[halcyon girder]

Oh that's easy hide behind the pillars

When lernie friends come along take care of em

And then go back and if lernie stops attacking then attack him

Or her what ever

[south sapphire]

death defiance charge used wtih 8 hp left

i need to get more heart upgrades ngl

not me regretting life choice mph

[devout terrace]

an important thing to remember is that the different head colors have different attacks, which they use on a cycle

[boreal jetty]

what about boons?

[halcyon girder]

Yes sometimes it's fire balls

Sometimes it's laser things

[devout terrace]

like the blue head, when you aggro it it will slam down, then try to charge you

but it cant do either of those 2 in a row

[south sapphire]

wdym

[halcyon girder]

Um idk about that

[south sapphire]

IM DYING IN ASPHODEL

[halcyon girder]

Just stay calm

Don't panic

I'm playing on the switch and I almost broke the joystick

And the B buttpn

[south sapphire]

relatable

DUDE

WTF

HOW DO U DODGE THIS

[runic parrot]

be where the hitbox isn't

[south sapphire]

omg i NEVER guessed that

thanks

[gray apex]

Np

[halcyon girder]

Oh your gonna have fun with the Theseus and the bullman

Wait wait no Hades your gonna have so much fun with hades

[south sapphire]

i have gotten to the final boss before

u get no downtime

barely any

[gray apex]

This channel is full of spoilers so beware

You just need more practice and experience

You’ll be able to dodge stuff better eventually

[south sapphire]

i used to beat the hydra easily

idk why im dying this much

just feels weird yk

[gray apex]

Weapon and build can make it tougher

Like melee aspects etc

Maybe your max hp is too low

Lots of stuff

[south sapphire]

probably

[runic parrot]

make your own downtime between chambers lol

its especially useful to just stretch before the final boss

[south sapphire]

btw

is it possible to get true ending with god mode

[gray apex]

Yes

[red cypress]

yup

[gray apex]

It’s possible to do everything using godmode

[red cypress]

god mode doesnt interfere with the story at all

[south sapphire]

i dont wanna resort to god mode

but i feel like i should

[runic parrot]

dont worry abt it

its just fun playing it

[red cypress]

sometimes i just wanna talk to achilles n patroclus and i dont want to expend effort so i turn on god mode for a couple runs to chill

god mode is there for a reason

[runic parrot]

it's not 'resorting' to godmode if you just wanna follow the story

[red cypress]

if its more fun with god mode then its more fun

thats the point of the game

theres no inherent moral value to difficult things

[south sapphire]

you dont understand

i feels like i couldnt conquer the game

so i try to have an easier time

[red cypress]

yes

this is fine

[south sapphire]

its an ego problem

[red cypress]

i do that

[runic parrot]

yeah i get it

but once you get over that it's gonna feel more fun

[south sapphire]

okay ig

[distant vessel]

You could just try god mode so you can get try to learn and then you can turn it off afterwards

[south sapphire]

is there a skelly summon btw

[devout terrace]

kind of a spoiler but yeah

[tawny arrow]

is there a difference between encounter/chamber?

[full nexus]

yeah, an encounter is a fight

[south sapphire]

AH YES

TISIPHONE

2 dd used

dude the voice lines are orgasmic

[runic parrot]

i hate tiny vermin so much.

[halcyon girder]

Blasted chambers not giving what I want

I was trying a boon less run

[brisk trail]

chamber rerolls helps a lot

turning dark foresight off can be a strat

other than that...gl

[last veldt]

If you take chamber rerolls and no dark foresight, you usually end up with 3 or fewer boons at the end of each region, so you can always sell everything. Then you save most/all rerolls for styx. Take all but one of the non boon tunnels first. If you still don't have the sack, roll the boon tunnels. If you run out of rolls before finding the sack, take a boon tunnel before taking the final non boon tunnel and hope for a purging well in the final tunnel (you may even already have the sack at this point and you're just trying to purge a boon you had to take in the previous tunnel).

I'm my experience this will get you boonless to Dad at least 90% of the time. Remember that Chaos doesn't count for the unique dialogue because Hades talks about the scent of Olympus, and chaos is not an Olympian god.

[brisk trail]

hot and maybe obv tip is that you cant reroll miniboss rewards into non boon rewards

i def wasted rerolls on that before

[last veldt]

Ah yes

Very true, and I don't think that you can have 2 of the same boons on tunnels in styx at the same time (hence taking non boon tunnels before rerolling).

[last veldt]

Yes. Shackle only gets nerfed if there's a core boon on that slot, it's not affected by chaos boons or other auxiliary boons.

At least I'm 99% sure is not affected by chaos

[last veldt]

I made a quick video to show it: https://youtu.be/xqG0cjdfHE0

[chrome wharf]

Ange1man made it

[devout terrace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/871832332095602728/zagSnoozePat.gif

[gray apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[oak ibex]

Ange1man, you are a saint

[devout terrace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/871832329419620362/zagWowPat.gif

[full nexus]

Angel basically pat anything

[oak ibex]

They're correct: everything and everyone deserves headpats

[full nexus]

That's true

[runic parrot]

when will the hand that gives pats be pat itself

[fast willow]

does disappointmentChampion really deserve headpats

[rotund galleon]

oh wow Artemis greater call 50% damaged Hades

btw will there ever be DLC for the game

[raw herald]

No

[rotund galleon]

sad

[hearty mural]

Extreme measures thesues is something else wow

[rotund galleon]

btw d you lose the damage buff if you swap Thanatos trinket?

[upbeat kiln]

yes

[rotund galleon]

feck

[brisk trail]

I HAD MY TENTH WIN OMFG

[chrome wharf]

Congrats!

[brisk trail]

Thank you!!!

[rotund galleon]

good job my man

pick a keepsake pls, aspect of Chiron

[craggy verge]

Really they've said?

[gray apex]

Yea you can check in #hades-patch-notes

[craggy verge]

You think an Athena Ares build could be good for fists?

[brisk trail]

yea merciful end is so fun

[craggy verge]

Yea I got it on a shield run

and that was really good, seems like weaving in uppercuts with Athena on the primary sounds legit

[brisk trail]

go for curse of pain and divine strike

[hearty mural]

It seems like the best it could be is divine dash and impending plus whatever the doom stack boon is so you just spam dash strikes

[brisk trail]

(doom on special, deflect on attack)

[mint coral]

Swap that and ME fists is fun

[gray apex]

The other way

[mint coral]

Also add divine dash

[hearty mural]

Doom in attack is better if yoy have divine dash

[craggy verge]

Deflect on attack seems good so you can block a lotta stuff 👀

[gray apex]

Yea a lot of things seem good but arent actually good

[raw herald]

Doom attack allows you to proc doom every dash strike

[craggy verge]

I did a clear with Athena attack on spear when I got the range extend + Flurry

it was funny

[high island]

No, they didn't say there'll never be DLC for the game. They've also made no indication that they're working on anything like that, however. I'd expect they're working on a concept for a new game now and then will develop that, but that doesn't mean they won't make any Hades DLC in the future.

[craggy verge]

[raw herald]

Don’t count on it though, they’ve said that they’ve finished working with hades

[high island]

Or maybe they'll surprise us and are actually making Hades DLC now. Very unlikely I think, but the only ones who know what they're doing now is them.

[high island]

I probably wouldn't wanna work with somebody who I find out keeps killing his own sons, either.

[gray apex]

[raw herald]

You’d think that hades would turn on em4 himself, every run

If he wants to actually win

[red cypress]

but does he though

this is the question

[brisk trail]

kind of weird security system to let the prisoner choose the difficulty of escape lmao

[red cypress]

kinda weird security system to leave your prisoner's window to the exit wide open 24/7 also

[high island]

Another reason not to work with him.

[steep comet]

can you get 2 duo boons in 1 run?

[gray apex]

Yes

[steep comet]

thanks

[gray apex]

There isn't a cap on how many Duos or Legendaries you can have, altho some of them are incompatible with each other

So that's the only restriction

[last veldt]

There is actually dialogue to address why Hades holds back without the pact

[lavish hatch]

how does the call refiill?

[hearty mural]

Will Orpheus still comment on my lyre skills if he’s in asphodel

[gray apex]

If you deal damage or take damage

[lavish hatch]

ahh okay

[hearty mural]

The meter goes up when you deal/take damage, more on take, and any boons that affect that

[gray apex]

There are some boons that make it refill automatically

Like Smoldering Air

God's Favor

etc

[raw herald]

Faster attacks fill it up more quickly, eg razor shoals and hangover

[hearty mural]

Hermes has one, poseidon has when you take damage, Artemis has one when you crit

[raw herald]

And the amount it refills on damage is proportional to how little HP you have

[devout terrace]

^

[raw herald]

So if you have 20HP and take a hit, the call will basically be maxed out

[gray apex]

jesus christ%

[raw herald]

Loyalty card routed

[devout terrace]

If you just take one hit and die on lv1 guan yu you can basically refill the entire thing

[last veldt]

And you're basically dead too

[gray apex]

Stubborn Defiance strats

[high island]

Not in Asphodel, but he'll return to the House of Hades. He's still the court musician, after all.

[lavish hatch]

what does a door with exclamation mean?

[chrome wharf]

There's an NPC in there who will give you good things

[lavish hatch]

ahhh nic3e

[chrome wharf]

give them a nectar too to get keepsake

[lavish hatch]

yeah i always run out

cool now i can get stuborn deffiance

[brisk trail]

best cast for hera bow?

[chrome wharf]

Aphrodite

[craggy verge]

Oof I lost to Hades with fists

couldn't dodge out of the spin move

cos short af range smh

[mint ember]

Its not too difficult to get the timing down

You can eventually just abuse i frames from dashes and not even dodge out of the wau

[steep comet]

took the zeus keepsake, got a grand total of 1 zeus boon in act1, nice

sea storm build btw

[lavish hatch]

what is green ball in a bag that i can buy from charon?

i cant send pictures

how do i explain this

[raw herald]

How much does it cost

[lavish hatch]

150

[raw herald]

It’s a boon from Artemis

[lavish hatch]

ohhh

also, how can i check how many defiance i have?

[raw herald]

Just above your health bar

[lavish hatch]

okay thanks

[brisk trail]

wtf thanatos

this dude is a sole loser he just yeeted the heart into the lava

i had to take dmg to get it lol

[red cypress]

[chrome wharf]

Dash in dash out

[brisk trail]

yea obviously

i still took 1 tho

[red cypress]

if you move away and wait it'll actually move over eventually

[brisk trail]

wait how long?

Do you guys memorize the boons name or effects? I don't memorize the names all I know is what they do LMAO

[sour isle]

so does the blood frenzy boon stack upon itself? (use death defiance, deal 30% more damage that encounter)

[brisk trail]

i dont purposely memorize but i happen to know most of their names from playing too much lmao

[brisk trail]

no

@sour isle I tried, I don't see a change in damage

[brisk trail]

I don't 😂 😂 😂 😂 I play a lot of it also but I usually never read the name and just look at the stats

[chrome wharf]

I have like 500 hours and 3 files and still can't remember which Weak-enhancing boon is which

[brisk trail]

HAHAHHAAH, that's fair

I've been trying to proc the duo boons but they're not appearing 😩

[chrome wharf]

I know it's Sweet Surrender, Broken Resolve, Empty Inside, and the effects are +dmg to Weak, longer Weak and more dmg reduction from Weak but can't match them

[brisk trail]

I have four left on my list of minor prophecies

[chrome wharf]

Duos can be hard

[brisk trail]

sweet surrender = extra dmg
broken resolve = more potent
empty inside. =longer duration

All I know that I don't have yet is Ice Wine and Cold Embrace

[brisk trail]

how can you remember lmao

ok screw you aphro

shes offered me cold embrace4 times

Lmao

i hate that boon

I've never seen cold embrace

Then again I've barely seen demeter

I don't look for her in particular, not my favorite god to get boons from

Also I'm nearly done with getting the dark reflections achievement

I just need stubborn defiance

I only lose with that one on

Worst mirror upgrade yet

[chrome wharf]

all the high heat people:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/015/976/homer-simpson-bush-gif.gif

[brisk trail]

What's the highest heat you've done?

Oh wait

You mean stubborn defiance LMAO

Is that meta????

[chrome wharf]

40, yes that's the meta

[brisk trail]

I'm guessing bc you die every room

[chrome wharf]

Yes

And don't get healing

[brisk trail]

Oof

[devout terrace]

[brisk trail]

I didn't know LMAO

[devout terrace]

Main thing is the healing part

[brisk trail]

I just hate it that it only heals up to 30% of your health

[chrome wharf]

It's basically a 30% After Party (at heat levels where After Party itself doesn't work)

That's what Pat is for, he buffs the heal to 80%

[brisk trail]

Oh yeah, i've seen Patroclus buff

I was angry I couldn't use it until hades

Third tunnel satyr sack

Or fourth

Idk HAHAHAH

I just know it took a while

[hearty mural]

Hazard bomb is broken, I chose it forgetting I had Eris and it’s all I need

[brisk trail]

how does targeting system work with rocket bomb?

(targeting is slowness and vulnerable while in Q target and rocket is replace lob Q with a rocket)

[mint coral]

I still see the buff when the rocket hits enemies iirc

[signal aspen]

enemies in the direction that you shoot the bomb get marked

[last veldt]

Yeah, I instinctively pick hazard bomb when I see it, often when I have Eris.

[mint coral]

Hazard bomb eris fun

Specially with delta

[chrome wharf]

Just get Unshakable Mettle ez

[brisk trail]

do flourishs effect maim damage or globals only?

[craggy verge]

Hazard bomb good?

[twin thistle]

only global

[gray apex]

It's good as long as it's not Eris

[twin thistle]

spread hazard eris stonks

[fallow kindle]

Who do I get the broken spearpoint from?

[twin thistle]

tbh hazard delta is pretty cool

[twin thistle]

elysium story character

[fallow kindle]

Oh

[twin thistle]

take this with a grain of salt

[fallow kindle]

Gotcha

[fallow kindle]

From this guy?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927652115344674866/928516709323796520/unknown.png

[twin thistle]

yeah

[fallow kindle]

Gotcha ty

[twin thistle]

you cant initially gift him

cant*

[fallow kindle]

Oh gotcha

Do I have to keep running the story?

[red cypress]

yup. also try checking the codex once you've spoken to him

[fallow kindle]

Okay thank you!

[valid cipher]

Can you use that Hermes "more speed = more damage" boon to create a super stupid build?

[gray apex]

Well yes

Why not

[valid cipher]

I got it once.

[high island]

Rush Delivery (that's the name of that boon) + Hyper Sprint is a very common combo especially in speedruns.

So much so that one of the speedrun events is called Hyper Delivery.

[valid cipher]

What does it do?

The second one.

[high island]

+100% movement speed for a short time after your Dash.

[chrome wharf]

+100% movement speed and Sturdy for 0.5-0.7s after a dash

[high island]

But you get the bonus damage from Rush Delivery immediately when you press Dash.

Until the end of your sprint.

Sturdy means your attacks can't be interrupted and you reduce damage by 30%. The first part of that is also great for speedruns.

[chrome wharf]

Do things like Ares/Demeter casts and hangover damage change dynamically based on whether the Hyper Sprint boost is on or off

[high island]

Yeah, Rush Delivery applies to all damage on hit while it's active.

[lone kernel]

fluctuating meme beam damage by dashing

good to know

[tribal sleet]

ive noticed that zagreus has a sock on his shelf and id see no reason for him to have a sock

his feet woild burn it !!

[last veldt]

Well...

[tribal sleet]

well …

dont say it.

[gray apex]

You asked so I shall answer it for you

Because of course you want to know

[tribal sleet]

mayhaps

[brisk trail]

its so he can ||use it as a sock puppet||

[tribal sleet]

I KNEW IT !!

it is a puppet, that is all, dont yiu know ??

[gray apex]

[devout terrace]

wait where

[tribal sleet]

yk where the lyre is

the shelf right next to it

,

[gray apex]

I never noticed it before

[tribal sleet]

i like looking around his room and noticing random things

[quaint wind]

remember rule 2 everyone

[brisk trail]

maybe its a fire proof sock

[tribal sleet]

oh yeah !! my apologies

[valid cipher]

Can I make VK the default?

I'm getting annoyed at not being able to launch the game from the steam tray icon.

[high island]

#h1-tech-support for things like that.

They'll be able to help you with that.

[craggy verge]

any tips for Zagreus gun?

I take a ton of damage in Styx rooms oof

not being able to stunlock people is kind of rough

[raw herald]

Tidal dash plus breaking wave

If you want a different dash, use flood shot as a substitute, it’s breaking wave that matters

[craggy verge]

Whats breaking wave?

[chrome wharf]

If you knock an enemy into a wall they give out a shockwave

[craggy verge]

ohhh nice

Im trying to go Dionysus-Aphro for hangover stacking is that good?

[high island]

With Drunken Strike and Passion Dash?

[red cypress]

i go for it quite a lot but ngl that might just be because i really like dio

optimisation whom, i make my decisions based on who has the most fun voice

if you get the duo boon that says hangover stacks extra on foes with weak, and then you get the dio call, you can put down a whole lot of damage, but thats situational

[valid cipher]

Does Blood Frenzy stack with itself?

[craggy verge]

drunken strike and heartbreak

trying to grab the duo boon

[devout terrace]

it doesnt

[craggy verge]

I rolled into Artemis too

so hopefully can get the support fire

👀

[red cypress]

i find support fire really satisfying

i have no idea if it's numerically good but theres something thats just fun about watching it

pew pew pew

[dusky hearth]

What is good to use with the Neptune sword?

[valid cipher]

Aww man, it should. Not like you can spam it like crazy.

[dusky hearth]

Posiden*

[valid cipher]

The pointy stick invalidates this room.
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtsyPeppyClamStrawBeary-94GgDY_9ntI4QL67

[craggy verge]

does Distant Memories affect DoTs?

[signal aspen]

Yeah it's global

[valid cipher]

How common are fried fish? (Greece)

||Okay "Lock removing prince" got me||

[subtle mason]

finally beat hades

well not finally

took me 52 attempts which is something i am going to simply be proud about

[craggy verge]

nice!

he was really hard

what weapon?

[mint ember]

I got my first clear around run 20 i think but it was REALLY close

[subtle mason]

i meant the entire game

[mint ember]

Went down to 3 health and had to clutch out the remaining like 30% of his health

[subtle mason]

i got 10 escapes

i didnt completely 100%

but im consider that completion of main story

[subtle mason]

my first escape was run 23

most of my escapes were with the rail

i love the rail

actually escape 8 9 10 were all in a row

[craggy verge]

ohhh 👀

nice nice

jus got my fiirst escape wit hthe rail

[subtle mason]

nice

hades as in the boss is crazy

although with the right boons and stuff can be made quick work

the rail with triple bomb and rockets is overpowered

[craggy verge]

Rail feels pretty good vs Hades yea

can keep distance and all

yea I got the rocket and shotgun

[subtle mason]

those are nice

[craggy verge]

Shotgun kinda screwed me since I took Orpheus keepsake

[mint ember]

my pb rn is with stygius

i keep all death defiances and intentionally burn them all for max dmg

[craggy verge]

Styx is hard with rail

I feel like cant stagger anything and jus take a ton of dmg

[last veldt]

Yeah having some basic area clearing stuff helps

[mint ember]

thats why tidal dash is nuts

literally makes such short work of styx

[craggy verge]

hmmm true

yea that would be legit for atyx

[subtle mason]

literally i almost always get tidal dash when its there and my last run i had that plus 3 extra dashes from hermes

[craggy verge]

I always take Athena dash

[mint ember]

depends on the aspect

if im building full crit on stygius i take hunters dash

because uh yea

[subtle mason]

i have aspect of eres i think

[craggy verge]

👀

[subtle mason]

the one where bombs buff you

[craggy verge]

I have no aspect lol

[mint ember]

doing like 600 dmg crits with dash attacks

[craggy verge]

👀

[subtle mason]

bro the triple rocket thing i did like 1300 when it didnt crit at all if i was at point blank which i tried to be at all tiems

times

[craggy verge]

👀

rockets really good yea

[subtle mason]

i had artemis's boon for the special

not triplei its 5

[craggy verge]

👀

[subtle mason]

so esentially generally i did 1500 on a special and hades kinda died

[mint ember]

yo

i got one of the funniest builds ever the other day

i started the run with the hammer that turns malphon special into a mega man blast

with demeter fists

[craggy verge]

👀

[last veldt]

That's cluster bombs I assume.

[signal aspen]

Clockets?

[last veldt]

Then with Rocket bomb on top it's clockets (cluster rockets)

[subtle mason]

yes

[hearty mural]

How do satry sack chances work?

[signal aspen]

It's never in the first tunnel

It has a 54% chance to be in the second tunnel I think

And that's all I know

[subtle mason]

ive never gone to the last one

[dull niche]

the calculations are a little bit detailed but it works out to like

[subtle mason]

although ive gone to the 5th

[dull niche]

~54% for 2 tunnel yeah

[hearty mural]

I got 6th once glad it wasn’t a a slow run with tight deadline

[craggy verge]

Whats a good spear throw build?

Or Sword build 👀

[signal aspen]

Exploding launcher

[craggy verge]

I see so need the hammer?

[signal aspen]

Yeah

Spear special builds don't really work without a specific hammer

[craggy verge]

Seems a bit rng 👀

[hearty mural]

Achilles, flurry jab, something strong like aphro athena or Poseidon on special. Also charges skewer or exploding hammer

[craggy verge]

I see

[signal aspen]

Spear is extremely hammer dependent

[hearty mural]

Flurry jab is a strong hammer but not so much special focused, Achilles is bassically best spear anyways

[craggy verge]

I guess you build around your hammer?

[signal aspen]

Basically

[hearty mural]

Yes because they are very good for spear

[craggy verge]

Yea I cleared with Flurry Jab Athena

alrite so Achilles spear and hope to get explosive hammer 👀

[hearty mural]

If you have the hidden aspect it is super good with charged skewer

[craggy verge]

How bout for sword?

[signal aspen]

You can't get exploding launcher on Achilles

[craggy verge]

oof?

[mint coral]

Achilles wants flurry jab

[signal aspen]

Ares attack, Athena special, Athena dash, merciful end

[mint coral]

Or quick spin hammer for fun

[craggy verge]

oooh merciful end is fun with fists too but I died at Hades

Is Aphro shot on Hera bow good?

[signal aspen]

Very good

[craggy verge]

Want to try that but I only have level 1 aspect

[hearty mural]

I’d say yes because aphro has high base % increase

[craggy verge]

using the regenerating cast lol

[signal aspen]

Casts don't have % damage

[craggy verge]

👀

What do you pair with Aphro cast?

[mint coral]

Global dmg/cast dmg

[signal aspen]

Just put a bunch of poms on it and get chaos cast boons

And snow burst

[craggy verge]

Whats Snow Burst?

[signal aspen]

Demeter boon

[craggy verge]

Oh 👀

Aphrodite Demeter then 😎

[mint coral]

Zeus call for smoldering air always fun

[craggy verge]

Oh yea that does sound fun

[mint coral]

Also infernal > stygian for hera crush shot

Doesnt matter lvl if you kill all enemis in 1 burst

(tho can pickup quick reload from hermes)

[brisk trail]

smoldering air makes all those "for 10 seconds after call" basically permanants its so nice lol

[hearty mural]

Yeah it’s terrible with something like Artemis or aphro but it’s at least good with everyone else

[craggy verge]

Hmmm I used Stygian for Dionysus shot

but yea i think prob Infernal 🤔

[hearty mural]

I’ve been using Stygian most of the time but just recently changed to infernal and its a bit better

I just feel silly when my mirror is mostly purple but the yellow isn’t as good

[twin thistle]

aphro call SA is pretty good

[mint coral]

Stygian is the choice for tripoy shot/flarw

[last veldt]

Yeah most purple is better. Only 3 or 4 need to be green.

[steep comet]

what are the strongest aspects for each weapon for 0-20 heat runs?

[last veldt]

Both can work on Trippy. Getting 6 Trippy Shots landing on Dad at the same time is fun.

For me (in weapon order): Hidden, Achilles, Hidden, Chiron, Hera or Hidden, Talos or Demeter, Hestia or Eris

[steep comet]

hidden?

[last veldt]

Each weapon has a hidden aspect

[steep comet]

ah okay

[mint coral]

Works but is so lame waiting for them to come back lmao

[steep comet]

I know, but I used to call them by the name, so didnt think about it lmao

thanks

[last veldt]

Yeah but a Stygian Soul run where Chaos doesn't bless you with extra casts is also bad.

[lone kernel]

indeed. super based

[craggy verge]

Dang Merciful End shield is 👀

[mint coral]

I've only done Meus shield

[craggy verge]

I got Ares on the Throw and Athena on the bash

and hte hammer for explosive shield

seems like if you fast enough you can like proc the doom and the explosion dooms them again

whats meus?

[chrome wharf]

merciful end on zeus shield

[craggy verge]

Ohh

[tacit nimbus]

I got my first companion! Forgot their name, their from Skelly

[craggy verge]

i don have any shield aspects

[tacit nimbus]

Any aspect is great, my preference is Zeus

[craggy verge]

I see 👀

im trying to level chiron aspect

taking a lotta blood

[slim geyser]

apparently darren korbs dogs growls were part of cerberus’s sound and i love that fact so much

[cunning arrow]

Can anyone give me any insight on what aspect I should chose? I've been vibing with the spear and I'm unsure

[twin thistle]

achilles good go to. has the most build flexibility and least hammer dependent

[cunning arrow]

Thank you

[fossil gyro]

i just accidentally deleted my save file