ya i gott a lvl 10 aphro cast
#h1-discussion
deft bolt
gray apex
Yea it’s strong
deft bolt
melted hades
gray apex
Lol
deft bolt
amazing
i'll try the poseidon mirage build in a bit
gonna have dinner now brb
thanks for the help my friend
gray apex
gl hf
brisk trail
mann i died to hades last phase on 16 heat
brisk trail
Just started the game any tips to make it past the first boss
deft bolt
Just started the game any tips to make it past the first boss
Spam dash
Learn her attacks
and attack when you can
Between dashes
Between her attacks
learn some combos with your weapon of choice ( in your case the sword )
deft bolt
Oh
ok
that's fine
ya its basically that
just learn her attacks and punish her
spam the dash
and attack as much as you can
the bow is good because you are far away from her
you have more time to react
chrome wharf
Do dash attacks on bow instead of normal attacks. You trade a bit of damage for more speed and mobility
twin thistle
yeah like with the charge time speed increase along with good repositioning letting you constantly attack, dash striking honestly just increases your dps
lone kernel
clever thicket
If I choose a boon I need for a phrophecy, and later in the run I purge it, do I still get the prophecy completion?
modern garnet
Yeah
grizzled needle
I currently using the bow rn
Ment to reply to this
Sorry
But work to get ||Arthur||
It's a thing for the sword
It's not weary weary get tho but it's op
modern garnet
You can't get that before you beat the first boss?
The bow is hard to use but it's just as good as anything
twin thistle
bow is gud
whole comet
and Rama is one of the strongest
clever thicket
Does this work with the demeter aspect? https://imgur.com/a/ojJk6Qa
peak zealot
apparently, it works, but the hitboxes are finicky
peak zealot
In my experience, gilgamesh is only good for dash builds, but sure
devout terrace
Merciful end on gilgamesh is the only really viable build in the top end
brisk trail
what would be a good suggestion for my 32 heat run, i've already done 25 on the bow (rama supremacy)
i've never tried td before
twin thistle
rama is great for 32 too
brisk trail
typically i go for a triple shot explosive shot heart rend build and just delete everything
twin thistle
ig some other aspects on the easier end of 32 are eris, hestia, zeus, beowulf
brisk trail
don't have beowulf yet (hate shield) dont, don't wanna do zeus (hate shield)
i guess i could try the rails
i know eris is busted as hell at high heat
twin thistle
ig nem sword, hera, achilles, dem fists are gud too 
vapid narwhal
Eris is THE aspect to go if you are just starting 32
brisk trail
ohoho no way i'm doing a melee weapon
twin thistle
eris kinda just deletes everything for you at 32 heat yeah
brisk trail
ig nem sword, hera, achilles, dem fists are gud too <:thanthink:6692460041425387...
dem fists are goated yes
hate spear tho
vapid narwhal
if you get rocket bomb the killing part is basically autopilot, so you can focus on dodging
brisk trail
what about rocket bomb spread fire?
vapid narwhal
no
twin thistle
bad
brisk trail
would that be reasonable?
twin thistle
dont
vapid narwhal
rocket + cluster is the meta
brisk trail
oh
vapid narwhal
cluster is not necessary, but rocket is transformational for eris
the attack hammers are whatever
dont take spread fire
devout terrace
Delta chamber gives i frames when dash striking on rail
twin thistle
delta makes you keep i frames while dash striking so its good for safety
devout terrace
Mega safety
brisk trail
bruh really??
vapid narwhal
not needing to reload is also nice
brisk trail
not needing to reload is also nice
i'm mapped it to LT so i don't really struggle at quick reloads
twin thistle
so if you have rocket bomb already and the next hammer has no cluster bomb or vice versa then delta is probably your best choice
devout terrace
Avoid -hazard, spread fire, explosive fire, seeking fire on eris
brisk trail
who in their right mind would take hazard on eris
devout terrace
brisk trail
damn ok 
twin thistle
wouldn't recommend for your first 32 heat though lol
brisk trail
maybe if i'm feeling ballsy
*note: i wont be
what should i have on attack in general
brisk trail
so go for cold fusion maybe?
twin thistle
you can also do the MEris strat for memes
cold fusion is nice to have
but id rather force poseidon or aphro
aphro plus zeus call is op
or smouldering air plus zeus call
brisk trail
mMMMMmmM splash dash sea storm
twin thistle
seastorm aint much of a priority but splash dash is great
vapid narwhal
hydraulic might is also good
twin thistle
smouldering air with zeus/aphro/poseidon/dio/athena call can definitely carry a 32 heat run
twin thistle
that works
vapid narwhal
ME always works
twin thistle
best with delta chamber for that
brisk trail
i've never considered putting merficul end on a ranged weapon
it's always nem sword and dem fists
but with rocket bomb eris
it sounds considerably nice
twin thistle
did some theorycrafting with MEris and killed em4 fo2 dad in like a minute 30 with over half of my first health bar left lol
maybe a bit memey though tbh and quite a lot less consistent
devout terrace
Seastorm overrated
brisk trail
que
twin thistle
stuff like jolted and splitting bolt would be doing a lot more damage than seastorm tbh and you need to be playing pretty close to bosses
and smouldering air would help way more
twin thistle
tidal dash itself would probably be doing twice the damage tbh
halcyon girder
I'm trying out the bow of Chiron so yeh
slim marsh
The best one
calm zenith
Merciful End works on anything tbh
I was just thinking about it on Hades spear
Works nice on Guan Yu, kinda Rama if you get like Chain Shot
gray apex
Just put Doom on the Special
calm zenith
Yeah. You can even just use that.
You can do some really big doom damage
Up to probably 5000
rapid forum
have you tried turning FO on?
halcyon girder
What's FO?
vapid narwhal
forced overtime
learn some speedrun tricks
take free rooms, pause when picking an exit, etc
halcyon girder
Hm
calm zenith
It's tough. My fastest time is like 17.55
gray apex
Just use Eris 
halcyon girder
So if I have God mode on on 80% and then have death defiance to stop the time just a little bit and using FO I will get probably lower than 19
calm zenith
My best time was actually poseidon artimenis cast lol
I'd like to get sub 12 one day but eh
gray apex
It takes practice
vapid narwhal
at 80% god mode you could just face tank everything and kill everything fast
gray apex
Godmode speedrunning meta
halcyon girder
My best time because well when Hades charged his circle fire thing I just went for it and sacrificed my thumb
calm zenith
Mostly just want to true 100% by getting the final rank
halcyon girder
at 80% god mode you could just face tank everything and kill everything fast
Yep true
And here's the thing I have that and 3 death defiance
vapid narwhal
at 80% dad's swipe hit you for... 7 damage
halcyon girder
So I'm basically a walking tank
gray apex
Lol
halcyon girder
Is there even a max health or no?
halcyon girder
Well there is that menu mod for pc's
Basically makes you an unkillable destroyer of gods
halcyon girder
I think the max is kinda 1000 or none because the Devs probably thought you won't make your health that big
vapid narwhal
yeah you can get some nutty max HP with boonless runs because what else are you going to take anyway
calm zenith
I usually stop at 200. Higher usually isnt useful for casual even with my awful reflexes
At least with a full mirror
halcyon girder
Playing on the switch is hard because the dash is B and your thumb can be dead if you fought Theseus and asteriues for the first time
calm zenith
Yeah I rebinded my switch controls
Actually got me killed recently
Ended a 114 streak
Want to see?
Can I link Twitter here?
halcyon girder
Probably maybe
calm zenith
I had the best Crush Shot build I've seen but died to aim assist and mostly using Achilles to get around
halcyon girder
What is the strongest call?
calm zenith
https://twitter.com/BleedReclaim/status/1451793245013360646?t=TMkRgImXT5yvUqn55X5qvw&s=19
https://twitter.com/BleedReclaim/status/1451793304828276745?t=TMkRgImXT5yvUqn55X5qvw&s=19
halcyon girder
Ares is just well a bit not great if you have the dash and the cast it's okay
calm zenith
Of course the lvl 7 poseidon flourish got me killed
devout terrace
at 80% dad's swipe hit you for... 7 damage
Do it on arthur
With its specific hammer
Literally invincible
Just not too fun
devout terrace
its so slow
rapid forum
never reached that but that's believeable
calm zenith
I got like 5000 with a mediocre backstab build
halcyon girder
Wait how do I unlock the last sword the secret aspect?
calm zenith
I think its Poseidon?
devout terrace
Wait how do I unlock the last sword the secret aspect?
Pins in #h1-story-discussion
calm zenith
Yeah just follow a guide. They're sort of seasoned into normal stuff
If you play a bunch you'd eventually find them all normally
halcyon girder
Hm I got the last aspect for the spear
calm zenith
That unlocks the others yeah
devout terrace
Thats the first one you get
halcyon girder
I just did level up the 2 and 3 aspects and that's it
calm zenith
Oh. And you need a bit of blood in the weapon already
halcyon girder
Ooh
calm zenith
Just deleting possible spoilers
halcyon girder
So I just need to use a bunch of times
halcyon girder
Hm
calm zenith
Or like 3 upgrades total?
halcyon girder
I did the same thing with the spear
Maxed out the first one
Level the second one two times
And the third just one time
calm zenith
Yeah it's not too much. Sadly those final aspects cost a lot
Really meant for late game stuff ig
They're also just all fun
calm zenith
Guan Yu? Depends
It's the strongest spear by far for just offence
You get up to -50% hp
halcyon girder
Imagine maxing out every single pact of punishment and trying to survive
raw herald
Achilles is stronger imo
calm zenith
And you can even do healing builds with it
raw herald
Even with the increased vitality
calm zenith
Just need spin hammers
raw herald
Gy still very good
calm zenith
Achilles is probably just naturally more diverse because it includes casts
Like Eris. Do people even do Eris cast builds?
gray apex
Not really
calm zenith
I've never tried that. Idk what it would even work with
gray apex
Phalanx works with everything
calm zenith
Curse of Drowning too maybe?
raw herald
Because of good Zeus duo’s
calm zenith
I've never really used that duo
I never get it when I want it
Parting shot gets use. Lightning phalanx? Maybe once ever
ME Lightning Phalanyx Achilles 
gray apex
Just Lightning Phalanx Achilles is enough lol
halcyon girder
I remember an escape attempt i did I got alot of duos like 5 or 4 or more duos
Even tho I didn't need them
last veldt
I've had 4 duos certainly.
halcyon girder
Nice
last veldt
But at least one was basically useless
halcyon girder
What was the duo?
last veldt
I think it was Stubborn Roots but since I was going into Dad with 3 DDs and a crazy OP build I'd never need it.
halcyon girder
Hm
Neat
I forgot what duos I had but eh I'll check again but now I need to let the switch charge a bit
marsh rivet
It's the strongest spear by far for just offence
Unsure if this is true? Probably flurry Jab Achilles is the highest damage and fastest, by a solid margin, but it's a lot less safe than Charged Skewer.
full otter
got my first 40 heat run completed
feral belfry
Then 50
full otter
i'm not that good haha
stable dagger
Daily reminder that Artemis is best girl and the cutest Goddess
devout terrace
primal patrol
idk if any of you will know this but i got a question
is the # of rooms you have to take in styx before you get the sack generated at the start of a run?
i just gave up a super good 50 heat run but i wanna make sure im not dooming myself with another 4 sack
raw herald
It is not
primal patrol
thats a relief
twin thistle
until get 5 sack instead
primal patrol
i really want to start new runs but its hard to give up 100% attack damage and 50+ health by chamber 3
twin thistle
download the sped run modpack
lone kernel
Godspeed
late acorn
going for 32 heat today
Good luck
calm zenith
@marsh rivet probably highest damage. I mean Guan Yu has higher base damage values and such and works fairly well even without boons. And Achilles is the most "melee" of spears so yeah it's a bit less safe
Though missing half of your hp is also unsafe lmao
Really up to how you play. For sure Achilles has better burst.
My wipe run had me doing most of Hades' HP in 3 op crush shots
But then I aim assisted into a pot
My fault for being a little more risky while trying new controls (dash on R reload on ZR)
signal aspen
aim assisted into a pot?
devout terrace
Controller moment
signal aspen
bruh
devout terrace
Thats not your fault btw
calm zenith
Yeah
devout terrace
The auto aim is broken on spear special
calm zenith
Rebinding was though
devout terrace
Its 180 degrees lock in either direction
calm zenith
Like at a 114 streak I shouldnt be dying to 0 heat
devout terrace
On kbm its completely fine and usable
halcyon imp
Honestly, I find the bow to be frustrating with its auto aim
calm zenith
Not with that kinda build
halcyon imp
I miss hades a lot because it locks onto one of the green pots
calm zenith
I dont mind bow autoaim. It also works with triple shot
devout terrace
Bow is too snappy on controller
calm zenith
So that gets some usage
devout terrace
and too loose on kbm
halcyon imp
Most of the time it's good, but sometimes it gets frustrating
calm zenith
Probably yeah
halcyon imp
Still one of my favorite weapons
devout terrace
You can always turn it off
calm zenith
I had a neat flurry shot zag bow run
I wanted to get heart rend
It did really well honestly
Yeah. I might try playing without aim assist
Switch is already a bit messy
Has it's own learning curve on switch lite at least because you dont get much of a screen
twin thistle
aiming with dash striking without aa sounds fun
devout terrace
Its really difficult
calm zenith
Like I was doing a excalibur full dash strike run
Trying not to combo
So hard to aim
twin thistle
like usually youre wanting to aim like 90° from the direction youre dashing
calm zenith
Serrated point dash strikes are a breeze though
twin thistle
does the holding attack thing even work with other swords
calm zenith
Yeah I like it
twin thistle
like the tool tip says press or hold x to attack on other swords but you cant hold it
calm zenith
But my dash strike into moving attack combos
devout terrace
You can if you have flurry slash
calm zenith
How else will I efficiently remove armor and leave maim to kill priority targets!
And then get hit for 100 damage
twin thistle
maim
signal aspen
calm zenith
It's fine just dont get hit
signal aspen
yeah true
calm zenith
Athena attack makes it much much easier
Breaching Cross can kinda justify maim combos
Since you start staggering faster
twin thistle
just build merciful end
devout terrace
No cap
calm zenith
Thinking about turning on God's Legacy again someone stop me
Because I'm still getting triple rolls of common only boons, or rarely like epic mistral dash lol
And I usually end up with random duos with Pride anyway
chrome wharf
Legacy is fine
brisk trail
why does this game suddenly hate me
i pick hera, won't give me crush shot from aphro
i pick eris, won't give me curse of pain from ares
i pick rama, won't give me deadly strike from arty
twin thistle
idk if eris needs ares that much. can always grab aphro attack on hera and find a different cast or for rama find aphro/athena/dem attack
signal aspen
why do you want curse of pain on eris
full nexus
MEris is fun
brisk trail
someone mentioned meris
signal aspen
if you are gonna do MEris then you should get curse of agony
signal aspen
curse of pain ME builds only work on rama
signal aspen
bruh
signal aspen
oh yeah
brisk trail
I SWEAR
raw herald
Hunter dash start on Rama is also great
signal aspen
you dont want zues attack you want zeus attack
twin thistle
speedrunning modpack anti vorime
brisk trail
mac?
twin thistle
idk
eternal marlin
pretty sure there's Mac users with it
raw herald
Zoose
chrome wharf
Zeese
brisk trail
z O O s
ok i give in
i've tried four different weapons without the starting boon i needed
imma get the mod pack
twin thistle
speedrun server link in #self-promotion
brisk trail
i'd rather not disclose that :)
chrome wharf
those turning gears in styx (:
calm zenith
why does this game suddenly hate me
I've gotten this with hammers recently
Lots of starting hammers for one. And I'll get double edge on nemesis but lunge special on excalibur
Completely different hammers even though only flurry slash is incompatible
devout terrace
please dont get lunge special on arthur
calm zenith
I dont dw
calm zenith
Attacks are kinda eh too. Double edge must be the best
devout terrace
calm zenith
I heard that on a stream the other day. What did that one do?
Did it snap rush you into an enemy?
devout terrace
I think it was similar to Achilles raging rush
but reversed
calm zenith
Lmao
raw herald
I’ve had a desire to play hades lately
devout terrace
calm zenith
I started playing again because I was bored
Just grinding ranks really
I'm only halfway there I think with 300 hours
eternal marlin
well what rank are you at?
timid dew
Is Guan yu fun to use? Or too much stress for the health management?
signal aspen
no
twin thistle
its interesting
timid dew
Ok. Just need to do a run with high confidence for the prophecy
eternal marlin
There's Synergy in that it's easier to be healthy and anti-synergy in that you have even less health.
timid dew
especially with hl5, fo2, hs <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Sorry, not accostumed to acronyms yet
What are those?
twin thistle
more enemy damage, speed, and trap damage
timid dew
Ohh ok. I'm still doing without heat
twin thistle
a high confidence run would probably be safer with something like hestia rail, beowulf shield, or one of the bows
timid dew
Need to finish all weapons at heat 0
timid dew
a high confidence run would probably be safer with something like hestia rail, ...
Gotcha, thanks
I just did a run with the rail with cluster + rocket it was mad fun and deadly
twin thistle
yeah clockets is probably the most op hammer combo
signal aspen
yeah clockets is probably the most op hammer combo
thats cool but cursed flurry makes you immortal
calm zenith
Still never had it
signal aspen
twin thistle
what is that mirror
signal aspen
its cursed as well
signal aspen
yeah
calm zenith
I've seen people use it in higher heat
twin thistle
like fiery presence?
twin thistle
its mostly for tart to make it go faster since youll oneshot a lot of things
you dont care much about backstab damage in later regions for most things
timid dew
Guan yu is fun
What boon should go with it? Aphrodite to focus on damage?
calm zenith
Anything really
twin thistle
aphro special is good yeah
calm zenith
Aphro on special and arti on attack for heart rend stuff works
twin thistle
then youll do good damage with charged skewer or zeus call and smouldering air
twin thistle
can also do demeter/athena on attack or special for safety or do ares attack/athena special for merciful end
calm zenith
Yeah I've done that recently. Also athena dash
So most of the time dash strikes triggered it too
Works nicely
Dionysus on attack works for spin builds. Demeter does too. Pressure points gets really good here
Because you are rapidly attacking for small amounts. Then again, Mark and special
timid dew
What would you say is the safest for the first time I run it?
timid dew
Ok, thx
calm zenith
Sort of dash and special if that makes sense
timid dew
Which is the aphro/arte duo right?
calm zenith
Yeah
high island
I wrote a guide for Guan Yu here: #h1-discussion message
calm zenith
Just any way to get it. Even arti on special works
If you have like aphro on attack or even passion dash
timid dew
thanks
calm zenith
^ guide should help
Dying Lament can even be a solid source tbh
If it's your best option
high island
Heartbreak Flourish with Deadly Strike is better than the reverse for Heart Rend.
high island
Since you lead with your Special and follow with Dash-Strikes.
calm zenith
Serrated Point is also nice on Guan Yu
It has like 1.5 spear dash strike base damage. 30 vs 20.
It adds up when you start multiplying it
high island
Serrated Point Guan Yu can be very difficult to learn.
calm zenith
But when you get it with relentless reflexes and bonus dashes 
I had that with Deadly Reversal and Athena attack. The triple attack makes deflection and pay off easier
twin thistle
merciful end or thunderflare beowulf
lone kernel
Give me a build
Ice wine Achilles spear
thorny mirage
I’ll do that after beowulf fails
oak gull
Anyone have good experiences with the lucifer aspect?
barren ocean
If I get a Chaos boon that increases my attack dmg by 30%, and then i get a Boon, say Demeter that increase it by 30%, does this mean there is a total increase of 60% dmg from base?
Or is it 30% increase from my current dmg
calm zenith
It's all base I believe
barren ocean
thats what i thought okay makes sense
calm zenith
But additive
I had this idea recently. What if Black Metal, Engulfing Vortex, and Vicious Cycle effected Curse of Drowning?
But you lower the flood shot base damage by like -40%
Maybe less since that is a more dedicated build
barren ocean
🤔
calm zenith
Since it is visually a blade rift, and can branch from blade dash
barren ocean
that would be interesting
calm zenith
Engulfing would be the biggest like damage increase for it
barren ocean
But then that just ruins floodshot dmg right
calm zenith
Vicious would be interesting
barren ocean
if you have to change it for one boon set
calm zenith
Right now its theoretically 300% flood shot damage
barren ocean
But then if you dont have those bonuses does it mean Curse of Drowning would be p weak?
calm zenith
A little weaker
Maybe -30%.
It's really strong as is
Thats probably why it doesnt work with Mirage
Thats 6 flood shots per cast now
twin thistle
Anyone have good experiences with the lucifer aspect?
its pretty much budget eris with a lot of reliance on triple bomb
oak gull
its pretty much budget eris with a lot of reliance on triple bomb
It just feels WORSE than the basic rail.
twin thistle
tbh it kinda is worse yeah
the slow start up on the beam kinda sucks and theres a lot less good hammers for it
calm zenith
Yeah it starts slow. It is a bit more diverse though
Even though most runs are similar enough, try to blow up the special with attack or something
Try it with Zeus on special
The lightning bolts trigger the explosion
So when enemies are in it, it auto triggers
timid dew
Is Chiron with butterfly good? Or should I focus on boons?
oak gull
Charged Shot, Charged Flight or Pulverizing Blow on Beowulf?
brisk trail
Is Chiron with butterfly good? Or should I focus on boons?
butterfly is never really worth it over chosing boons
charged shot is amazing
oak gull
shield charge shoots, special has a charge-up for damage and double-hit on atk hammers
timid dew
butterfly is never really worth it over chosing boons
Ok thx
brisk trail
but can be a bit hard to use
stone surge
Hello
I'm new here and recently got Hades
I came here for man things, but mainly to rant about adamant rail
why is it so bad
i'm pretty sure it's the only weapon who's basic attack can't stun
and that sucks
also wait
should i go to #h1-for-new-players
i just beat hades twice so i'm guessing no?
unless i'm only like 10% in the full game
brisk trail
hmm nah youre fine here
new players is for ppl who didnt clear a run yet and the name of the last boss is a spoiler
barren ocean
every weapon has its pros and cosn
its all about just getting used to the weapons and figuring out the playstyle
brisk trail
also rail is very good with the right boons
high island
There are still potential spoilers for you after your first two wins, and spoilers are allowed in all channels except for #h1-for-new-players. So it's your choice, ultimately.
high island
the slow start up on the beam kinda sucks and theres a lot less good hammers for...
All of Lucifer's hammers are pretty good. I actually think it has the best hammer balance of any aspect.
And I think it's way better than base rail.
Well, certainly better than base, but also better than Zag Rail.
Eris and Hestia are just too good, though.
oak gull
Haha. I play with +60% more enemies heat AND I happened to take a +73% more enemies chaos boon for that sweet Cast damage.
And I just had a doozy of a fight.
Duo boon, angry zeus, something like 3 or 4 waves of asphodel snakes and bombers.
oak gull
infinite ammo, no ramp up damage.
less rev-up time before firing, faster firing
etc etc
stone surge
damn
oak gull
is that an upgrade to Daedalus hammers?
nah, people just write weapon/aspect before the hammer, because hammers are different
stone surge
ohh
stuck sentinel
thorny mirage
When the patty
brisk trail
pat
stone surge
patroclus best man
amber cloak
The worst feeling is knowing you missed a PR time because of bad sewer rng
stable summit
First win, and greeted with such art and music. Feeling good !
stone surge
the artstyle is sublime
and man that walking cutscene was epic,
too bad I got interrupted with a call to enjoy it
whole ocean
I've been speed running (poorly) for awhile now and I have literally never guessed right on the first room in styx. Statistically speaking, I should've managed it by now, but no.
twin thistle
I've been speed running (poorly) for awhile now and I have literally never guess...
cuz it cant be the first room
whole ocean
...That would explain some things, lol
twin thistle
its always 2nd or later with a 54% or something chance to be the second lol
whole ocean
Damn, now all those world record times are even more impressive.
twin thistle
requires quite a lot of good rng to even get a shot at those record times though some runners also use the speedrunning modpack which guarantees stuff like 2 sacks to make it easier
timid dew
Hey is distant memory good with the rail?
twin thistle
nah
timid dew
Ok 😛
modern garnet
I can't think of any situation where distant memory good
chrome wharf
well it's doesn't hinder Hestia
thorny mirage
Distant memory is rarely good honestlly
Like it doesn’t hurt you but there’s just so much better
brisk trail
recently i've been using the cerberus keepsake until styx then switching to skelly's (unless i trust myself with high damage output and good dash boons/calls)
modern garnet
Once you have an idea of which gods you want it's good to be able to guarantee a god or two in tartarus/asphodel
And even if you don't, getting early money from hypnos purse is nice
stable summit
So, now i've unlocked the pact of punishement and i jsut cant dare to do stuff on it cuz i have no idea how it works :I
Maybe someone could help me out? And also for oother stuff since well help's always appreciated
stable summit
Wish i could read (Mandarin?)
Doesnt look korean nor japanese, so it's my guess :I
tropic arrow
Wish i could read (Mandarin?)
yea
mint coral
nice hangover build
thorny mirage
So, now i've unlocked the pact of punishement and i jsut cant dare to do stuff o...
Basically, you can add difficulty modifiers to the game. Stuff like harder bosses, more health, reduced healing, et cetera.
The benefits for doing so are so you can claim more bounties, ie more titans blood, diamonds, and ambrosia each time you clear a heat level.
After you finish a heat level, you need to increase it by at least one to be able to get those bounties again
stable summit
nice hangover build
I jsut finished my frist voctory witha hangover Chill build
Sadly i cant post images
mint coral
#h1-victory-boasting is the place for victory imgs
stable summit
Basically, you can add difficulty modifiers to the game. Stuff like harder bosse...
Oh ok...
sent the victory img
calm zenith
Crit is always the answer unless you want to purposefully nerf yourself or simply cant afford Artemis in the pool
Pp + hangover + curse of nausea can be brutal
Like 125 hangover crits
stable summit
I love bow so much (i use Zag's aspect but I love Chiron also) The crit is so great but...
It's so garbage on Theseus
It's probably me
twin thistle
can take some practice to learn to deal with shields
calm zenith
I had a flurry shot run with zag bow and Theseus was stomping me after Asterius was long dead
Couldnt get in my weak but rapid shots much
twin thistle
generally bait an attack then shoot at their backs when their exposed
stable summit
Well i noticed that when he throws the spear he turns his back
so I hit him there
And when he'S casting the god's aid he's also vulnerable
twin thistle
yep. generally you want your build to be able to take him out while hes doing that god call cast
otherwise theseus gets pretty sketchy
stable summit
Theseus is a joke with Spear's special build Hangover
mint coral
how much i hate theseus depends on the god he calls 
stable summit
And the Demeter Cast is pretty useful too
calm zenith
Yeah with the right build i prefer to kill them are the same time
stable summit
Artemis call on Theseus is a joke
calm zenith
Or just rush down Theseus
You can only really kill them at the same time with some amazing dps
Or luck. Usually you have to decide on one during phase 2 yeah
Dont want asterius alive and theseus doing the call
mint coral
if you have charm having both of them alive during the call is fun
calm zenith
It works great yeah
rain skiff
level 4 heroic exit wounds be like
calm zenith
Then poseidon can just trigger it on will
calm zenith
Nice
calm zenith
Fists debuff
signal aspen
Exit wounds with pp and enough casts can do like 2000 damage
That's like 1 beowulf cast
twin thistle
its 50%
rain skiff
oh
signal aspen
Enemies deal 50% more damage
calm zenith
Yeah
twin thistle
additive with HL I think?
rain skiff
i havent upgraded mine
calm zenith
You honestly can just use maim
rain skiff
oh
calm zenith
But it can be really fun
signal aspen
It can build greater calls really well
rain skiff
boiling point be like
twin thistle
It can build greater calls really well
lose health faster for greater call is big brain
calm zenith
Just dont get hit. That's easy right.
twin thistle
just put on lvl 1 guan yu dont even need maim
calm zenith
Like if you get boiling blood just dash away
signal aspen
That are shortened and have longer cooldowns
rain skiff
<:bouldy:523329116934635534> just put on lvl 1 guan yu dont even need maim
brain size overdrive
calm zenith
Dont mess with that
Is that +200% damage or like +150%
I think I prefer Rending Claws to Explosive Upper for that reason
I'm really just using it on bosses
rain skiff
also
on poseidon aspect
is it better to run infernal or stygian soul?
i assume infernal
signal aspen
Depends on cast
rain skiff
because immediate retrieval
calm zenith
You need infernal for its special
signal aspen
But most of the time it's infernal
calm zenith
You can do either though really
rain skiff
ive not messed around with casts much
signal aspen
And if you are gonna do cast builds that use stygian soul just use achilles
rain skiff
until now
signal aspen
Bruh
calm zenith
Crush shot is probably better but Curse of Drowning is just fun
mint coral
just say achilles + any cast
signal aspen
Yeah lol
signal aspen
Meme beams is pog
twin thistle
i should try the cold embrace hera thing to see how bad it is
mint coral
the more i use accorn on em4 the more butterfly balls/sneaks are spawning, help
mint coral
triple shot is fun tbh
stable summit
twinshot better
mint coral
just gotta remember to hug your enemies
stable summit
yep which i dont like against final boss
calm zenith
I dont mind triple. It's good outside of bosses
stable summit
thats why i prefer twin
calm zenith
Even find on bosses
mint coral
unless em4 im more than fine with triple
calm zenith
Fine
stable summit
Welp back to it
twin thistle
https://imgur.com/a/N0FucPT triple flurry stonks
mint coral
should i meme with explosive shot or just go perfect shot (em4, zag bow)
whole comet
lol really? explosive shot is a meme? XD
modern garnet
Explosive shot is a meme on rama
whole comet
well he said zag bow
mint coral
i call it a meme bc perfect/point blank is just more cozy
lone kernel
It won’t be the reason you lose
But it can help you win
yeet
Wow I just fired up 32 beo my first three boons were Poseidon epic cast arty attack and Demeter snow burst let’s gooo
calm zenith
Nice
Going to try for Fully Loaded?
- Mirage ofc
Is the poseidon demeter duo even compatible with Beowulf?
I imagine not
chrome wharf
No bc Poseidon cast becomes Flood Flare
calm zenith
Too bad
chrome wharf
Not sure what happens if you trip the Beo cast bug tho
calm zenith
I should do that on hera
lone kernel
Room 1 of asphodel mirage. If fully loaded happens awesome but I’m prob set lol
calm zenith
Yeah
Fully loaded just makes it easier
It can still turn bad but you got a shield
Re: loading casts in the middle of a bull rush on Beo
Is the hit box on the next hit actually larger?
Or is that just visual
twin thistle
the hit box is bigger yeah
mint coral
w i d e hitbox
rapid forum
ʷ ᶦ ᵈ ᵉ
lone kernel
Fully loaded just makes it easier
Fully loaded would be great but it didn’t happen this time, oh well still comfortable win after a week off lol
And yea empowered beo bull rush is huge
chrome wharf
Good stuff
brisk trail
any tips for higher heat stuff?
lone kernel
any tips for higher heat stuff?
There’s a progression guide in high heat thread for what pacts to take which is super useful
narrow hemlock
try asking in #h1-high-heat-strategies :3
lone kernel
but in general, if pushing heat, run a build you are comfortable with
brisk trail
nice, beat heat 6 in a row too
rapid forum
you know what they say, it's harder when people are looking at you
lone kernel
nice, beat heat 6 in a row too
sweet
potent fulcrum
Random but it would be fire if there was an Easter egg where if you charm Megaera and try to use the Battie companion
Could be dialogue, A quick disruption of the fight, the summon actually working, or something
brisk trail
you know what they say, it's harder when people are looking at you <:dusa:522248...
good thing nobody but bots are watching
calm zenith
No
calm zenith
Thats what I mean about letting Ares tier 2s apply to it
Even if you just get black metal it feels pretty good
The way might be Ares call
At least with the tier 2s it would synergize with cod
Close enough
fast willow
Thats what I mean about letting Ares tier 2s apply to it
but why would it work, dont his tier 2s specify "blade rift"
final pollen
Hey friends - just a quick question. I've completed 20 Heat on a couple weapons and am curious whether Extreme Measures offers a higher darkness reward than normal?
twin thistle
Hey friends - just a quick question. I've completed 20 Heat on a couple weapons ...
nope. to farm darkness you pretty much just want to speedrun while grabbing poseidon's oceans bounty, chaos eclipse boons, and just hitting troves
final pollen
Perfect - thanks for the response. I figured as much but never really took notice so figured I'd ask prior to a new run. Only use of darkness left for me is ranking so more just playing for fun :)
Thanks mate!
gray apex
@twin thistle How did you change the modpack icons
devout terrace
<@646606294777593866> How did you change the modpack icons
Its done by changing settings
Like adjusting minibosses/thanatos control etc
Press the button that you use to show all your boons while being in the courtyard
devout terrace
Do you have Persephone or Sisyphus in the top left?
devout terrace
lmao
fast willow
devout terrace
Whatever you feel like lol
gray apex
I lost Arthur 40 heat first attempt because I got 5 sacked and timed out lol
fast willow
because after doing em4 for the first time ive realised there is just not enough time to 5sack and td3 especially if youre dealing with JS, CP, DC
devout terrace
5 is sack is crippling
gray apex
I honestly just like the 2 sack because of speedrunning
devout terrace
Most 50 heat runs leave elysium between 12-14 minutes
You dont get a lot of wiggle room
3 sack no tony vermin is usually the max you can take
wind steeple
dude
i could never do 50 heat that sounds like torture
but it's super impressive to watch
devout terrace
Ive done like 13 50's
It feels so good to actually complete
Higher than 52 ish is damm near impossible
Still havent gone beyond that number
wind steeple
It feels so good to actually complete
i can imagine lmao
gray apex
I just did 50 with Beowulf but I cant do anything else
gray apex
Rama is being a pain
wind steeple
yeah i just said sh ton and got stuck down
devout terrace
lol
devout terrace
Cease
gray apex
Ap2 ME
devout terrace
Im saving that one for last
wind steeple
i think my highest heat run so far is 16 for the skelly statue
gray apex
Idk if it’s comfy ngl, probably for you but 50 Heat Zag sword sounds like pain lol
wind steeple
i tried 32 and got toasted
devout terrace
Idk if it’s comfy ngl, probably for you but 50 Heat Zag sword sounds like pain l...
Oh yeah zag sword can suck it
Gonna have to do AP1 EM4 RI0
Thats gonna suck
Cant even DC 2 it
Because it would eat doom
wind steeple
Gonna have to do AP1 EM4 RI0
praying for you 🙏🙏
full nexus
Finally some courage
brisk trail
god, just found out about charged demeter specials, did like 1300 a pop and only had one upgrade besides the charged shot
with malphon i mean
subtle venture
Question: Should I trade ambrosia for titan blood?
I’ve been doing it a lot and I’m wondering if I’m doing something wrong
thorny mirage
I mean
dusky wedge
It’s fine
thorny mirage
ambrosia is for bond forging and maxing out companions
as long as ypu don’t do that every time
dusky wedge
There are basically infinite resources in the game
thorny mirage
Should be fine
dusky wedge
Every resource can be farmed in some ways
subtle venture
Ok, thanks for the advice
whole comet
Ambrosia is also needed for epilogue
U need max bond a number of gods and will need to gift them ambrosia
brisk trail
oo should i try 32 heat
i want this last statue
i did 0 8 and 16 with hunting blades
chrome wharf
go for it
subtle venture
Ambrosia is also needed for epilogue
Is the epilogue the one where Charon takes you on a ride in his boat?
Because if so, I’ve already gotten it
prisma wind
No, that's credits. Epilogue starts after that
subtle venture
I’ve gotten to that point
unborn remnant
Thinking about how if Asterius & Theseus were in Smash, Theseus would spam taunts
wary cypress
ambrosia is for bond forging and maxing out companions
What else does bond forging do aside from ||the chibi icon|| and ||flavor text||?
thorny mirage
nothing iirc
devout terrace
wary cypress
nothing iirc
OK gotcha. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything...
short glen
devout terrace
stable summit
Feeling bad, but i can play hades at least
pure karma
You ok?
brisk trail
fun tip from a cold survivor: if your nose is sore from constant rubbing, try number 8 lip balm
covert zenith
I have info on Canada
chrome wharf
mint/tea tree oil also works but needs to be a proper concentration
calm zenith
Just use the peppermint burts bees or whatever
I use that for my big lips in dry prairie winters
They still crack but it's very relieving at least
How fast do Snakestones attack?
I want to see how much base doom this adds
Like if anyone has a doc on the DM + ID Doom math for Rama special I'd appreciate it.
Quick math gives me about 2500 base doom damage, 5k crit. Since I got a 4k crit with much less than this, I think the 10k crit might be possible this way
thorny mirage
Shouldn’t this be in #off-topic-discussion
vivid path
You got it. Sorry!
oak gull
U need max bond a number of gods and will need to gift them ambrosia
There's a short interval in which you keep using ambrosia every time for Gods and then you hit the locks.
wary cypress
So Hades is on Midweek Madness on Steam for $17.49 if anyone's interested. I have mine on Switch but am tempted to get a copy for Steam too. It'll make for less neck strain for me I think.
chrome wharf
Can saves transfer from Swtich?
high island
Yeah.
chrome wharf
aaand bought
wary cypress
Yes
That's why I bought it too. Haha... I have just been craning my neck trying to look at all the fantastic visuals in my tiny Lite screen.
chrome wharf
Lol I want to try making my own Chinese patch, not sure how well my laptop can actually handle the game lol
Switch Lite can't be docked iirc
wary cypress
Yeah Switch Lite can't be docked.
strong ridge
ah
wary cypress
I like it on the Switch so that I could play in bed but aside from that... The hand and neck cramps are not worth it.
lone kernel
I have the regular switch, going handheld mode is literally 5 heat lol
devout terrace
lol
calm zenith
Yup. That's how I learned tho
wary cypress
Anyone else here laughs whenever you face Theseus and he's just calling you all kinds of insults? I mean... What did Zag ever do to him for him to hate Zag so much? 😆
twin thistle
well you have beaten his ass in front of all of elysium quite a number of times
round turret
I’ve been confused, why do the gods give Theseus help to fight you
Is it like
A test or smth
twin thistle
cuz they gods. they funny
round turret
True
wary cypress
well you have beaten his ass in front of all of elysium quite a number of times
Oh... Right! I didn't think of it that way. lol I guess there is good reason for him to hate Z then
wary cypress
cuz they gods. they funny
They're kinda big jerks is what I gather...
twin thistle
asterius meanwhile is a bro
round turret
I have the regular switch, going handheld mode is literally 5 heat lol
What’s wrong with the switch
twin thistle
well you have that tiny ass display and i doubt the ergonomics of held is as good as an actual controller
round turret
Oh yeah
I often forget how bad the base handheld switch feels
I have a grip on mine
calm zenith
Theseus is of high class and like has given lots to the gods
Their allegiances are bought that way
wary cypress
I have a grip on mine
Augh. I should probably get one of those. My hands are just shot when playing on my Switch Lite during long runs.
calm zenith
I have a case on mine yeah
round turret
If you do I highly suggest the satisfye brand
wary cypress
If you do I highly suggest the satisfye brand
Oooh ok. Thanks for the tip!